spoiler-chat

[solid raven]

Probably not but mines got the same thing
2bps I mean

[pale violet]

Okay you right but something about the cavia is that it seems like he gave them intelligence just to know they're about to die

[upper flint]

ok 🙂 isn't to help players depend on the ressources they have ?

[jade berry]

Even Roathe introduces a valid and unique challenge to the longstanding interpretation of what wally is

[solid raven]

Maybe? I’m not sure lol sorry

[hearty pendant]

does more when more negative emotions are present
he's able to control a vessel and attack the lab directly while loid is spiteful, but falters and disappears when loid remembers his love for albrecht
has control of the 1999 loop when we show up, but actively tries to get in our way of saving/caring about the hex, then loses the city when we do
can also sorta point at the Along Came A Spider entries

[upper flint]

thanks no problem 😄

[pearl vine]

Tf is a sagat

[hearty pendant]

CE isn't really a new theory for wally's origin, just a weird one
albrecht breaking into the void with his head full of self-doubt + the void reacting with strong emotions. wally CE is entirely possible, this is just Roathe saying it as well

[jade berry]

Sagat DEEZ N-

New weapons from the rebellion

[solid raven]

Maybe that’s why Drifter never really had much interaction with Wally when they were in Duviri (if I’m remembering correctly)
Cuz weren’t they just apathetic by the end of it due to Thrax killing them over and over and over again

[pearl vine]

Oh cool.

Is that garand good or just cool?

[jade berry]

No idea, havent built it, iirc it does have an interesting unique effect

[teal valve]

With the way the story is, feeling need a timeline or something because few times I was lost

[hearty pendant]

which section

[teal valve]

Think all of it

[hearty pendant]

v rough + basic, others please correct me if i'm wrong somewhere

also doesn't include actual current events but i can do that too

[teal valve]

Crazy long

[worn fjord]

So the more we defeat Roathe, the more angry he gets..at least we get story lore from the voice chats

I’ll have to hold back and try not go over defeating him 21 times 😂

[languid heath]

Why the heck did they introduce the xenoflowers giving Sentients free will when Lotus, Hunhow, Errah, etc all exist and have their own free will?

[manic abyss]

Does anyone know where the 'Executor' somachord is in the Perita Rebellion? I've found every other one but that one eludes me

[languid heath]

Assumedly, the flowers no longer exist.

[hearty pendant]

there is a massive timegap between these events for that to develop on its own

• lotus was reprogrammed and erra only really broke away "recently"

[amber terrace]

What’s the drifter look that gives my drifter freckles?

[languid heath]

I guess that's fair but it still seems like the story was a nothing burger. :/

We find out the lead up to the start of the game, sure, but eh. Did we really need Ballas as a villain again?

[hearty pendant]

he's the most involved and had the deciding vote, but Nitokh was the one supplying the anarchs
there's a couple more variables at play than just ballas

[potent vine]

So what’s the ost called for the new KIM music with the devils triad?

[languid heath]

I'm hoping once we officially go to Tau, they bring back the Narmer and possibly introduce Nitokh if she isn't already dead.

The Old Peace feels more general sci-fi than Warframe's flavor of sci-fi if that makes sense.

Exploring memories is cool--but when I first saw the trailer, I had (unfortunately) hoped that the Old Peace was possibly an alternate timeline via Eternalism, which would have been more in line with Warframe's usual quirkiness.

Not saying I'm never gonna play the game or think it's the worst writing of all time. I enjoyed it for what it is.

[hearty pendant]

the main issue with eternalism is that its only been accessed like twice
it makes a point that the other 'timelines' are only theoretically accessible

[oak pivot]

lol not sure if this is the right chat to ask in but what are you supposed to do to defeat roathe at the bottom of the descendia? i keep either instantly dying or my squadmates kill him before i can see what they are doing

[hearty pendant]

all i've discovered so far is that you might be able to prevent the explosion by shooting the orbs that float around him while he prepares the attack
every other time he just dies

[stiff harbor]

brain thought after completing the quest:

||What if the big goal of Tau is to revive Adis and the Xenoflora by going through the Tau system to grab resources to revive the flower? cause Technically Valdur didn't want to, but was asked to bring them back to Tauron, but that is destroyed now...but what of he is a Tau Faction Vendor that kicks off the Tau star chart? the reason why i think this is that strange zoom in on Adis' face and we saw his eyes still blue so he might still be alive...but in a Catatonic state living on the scraps of "Xeno Energy" with in them. As we get the last "resource/maguffin", we get a message that adis started moving a bit but their fellow Sentients started to swarm due to the pulse of Xeno at their Location and we have to fight them off which ends with us getting Adis as a Permanent companion...or a Special Warframe||

[pearl vine]

Does anybody know what the damage charts for the enemies in the tower thing?

[hearty pendant]

||he gave us his light, and more fully slumped over after. could be catatonic, i guess? but more likely that he's just dead. and hunhow put it best. "But hear me – even if I help you, even if by some miracle you succeed… she will not be the same. Even for us… death leaves a mark."||

[pearl vine]

And how do I use the new mods and arcades?

[hearty pendant]

have to get one of the artifacts from marie

[humble patrol]

any lore reason why Mesa just chills?

[pearl vine]

Ah

[hearty pendant]

mesa
and no prolly not /s

[pearl vine]

That’s Mesa

[humble patrol]

ur right sorry

why mesa

[hearty pendant]

i've not paid enough attention to that scene mechanically to guess why she's still up there tbh

[pearl vine]

Oh my God, that new syth might be crazy with condition overload due to the critical gimmick

[stiff harbor]

||A Tenno an Hope||

[pearl vine]

Oh it’s football I thought your profile picture was the trans flag XDD

[dry cove]

Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't be interested in romancing a second LI along with the first one, but it's Emet-Selch!!! (FFXIV IYKYK)

[uncut solar]

Ran out of ammo

[rose notch]

@real totem @leaden estuary for your consideration

[uncut solar]

There's are feedback and bug report channels

[rose notch]

It fixed once I reloaded the game, it was just silly and goofy

[amber terrace]

I have a desperate need to see someone make an edit of the Operator going apeshit in Old Peace to the tune of “Armed & Dangerous”

[uncut solar]

Ah

[rose notch]

I just thought it was funny hahaha

[coarse ridge]

where's Adis's last set of synovias? have looked everywhere around the head/shoulders, can't find anything

[cursive spire]

Arent both of these just nerfs

Why would I want this

[stiff harbor]

either on their chest or their legs

[cursive spire]

I can't leave without taking one 😭

[hearty pendant]

the left one is barely a downside

[cursive spire]

The way it's worded I think it just nukes my health orbs

Which are a decently sized portion of my build

I took the magazine one since the only thing using the guns is my clone

[coarse ridge]

pretty sure it bugged out, broke the chest & leg ones to open the first two health bars and there were no more, but then I died in the last phase and the chest ones respawned without refilling any health

[uncut solar]

I got it on primary plated round Quellor and it randomly damage capped with the alt fire once

I think I had a teammate who buffed the shit out of us though

[pliant saffron]

Playing duck duck duck duck duck duck goose with your gun

[vale bloom]

Im just going to say that if this is true then this is well...an extremely orokin reason to launch a rebellion. Boredom lol

[solid otter]

Feels like they were messing around w each other ngl

[uncut solar]

When you have literal billions of lives on a spreadsheet and the margin of error is closing to about the same amount

Yeah this tends to happen

[solid otter]

Lowkey finally learned how to pronounce zariman for the first time

[humble patrol]

redtext guy always delivers

time to make some banana bread

[hearty pendant]

man i could go for some banana bread rn

[fiery oyster]

I love the red text guy lmao

[solid otter]

Its pronounced za-reh-man not za-ree-man

And that. Kinda hurt me a lil

[hearty pendant]

isn't it pronounced both ways
same way "orokin" is pronounced in multiple ways, by lotus, in one conversation

[jade berry]

Wait til some of y'all learn why they're called tenno

[fiery oyster]

I wont lie btw the fact the devs can deploy a hotfix to a live game is insane to me

[solid otter]

Is it? I hope so bcs i feel dumb now

[fiery oyster]

they truly deserve every bit of recognition

[solid otter]

You still need to restart don't you?

[fiery oyster]

yeah to downlaod the patch but you can still complete missions and that despite it

[plush thicket]

Picking up convergence orbs twice in a row will fully max out your tauron strike charge

[solid otter]

Wait until you learn Albrecht is canonically a stoner (or whatever nestawood actually does outside maybe hallucinations)

[cursive spire]

Ougha I love descendia

[jade berry]

I believe it, have you seen the man?

[cursive spire]

That was sick

[plush thicket]

Same

[solid otter]

Some people pretend to knkw Albrecht smh

[fiery oyster]

same, I love the chaos of it all, its so good

[solid otter]

Yeah, Loid does the same drug too, which makes sense for loid

Loid needs it.

[quick ice]

I want to kill BallAss all over again

[hearty pendant]

lotus uses something close to the second pronunciation during angels
the holdfasts also use that pronunciation i believe, but i'd have to check
roathe is the outlier

[jade berry]

I love how loid only sometimes has his septum piercing

[plush swan]

Marie has another red mod today 🙂

[solid otter]

The one written time where they do it, Loid does too much and gets sick

[solid otter]

I like to pretend he takes it out while working cuz bird 3 would try to yoink it

In reality its just spaghetti code. He isn't supposed to have it, but he has it in cutscenes for some reason

[jade berry]

Its also funny that theres a line about roathe bonding to bird 3

[solid otter]

Bird 3 loves everyone, regardless of their actions.

Its sweet, in a way

[cursive spire]

It's just so awesome to have a mode where I can rip and tear without having to worry about morality or protecting things

[jade berry]

They keep trying to take it away but Loids too much of a baddie

[cursive spire]

Plus the music is amazing

[plush thicket]

What’s the next update? Tau?

[solid otter]

Loid is just that queer smh. Liger's fingerprints are all over his design in the best way

[cursive spire]

Hotfix #3

[hearty pendant]

Tau is likely the end of 2026 update

[plush thicket]

Ty

[plush thicket]

damn aight

[solid otter]

Loid was always destined to be a twink, but it seemed he was going to be a orokin originally

[cursive spire]

They like to do a couple of interim content updates but only one big lore update per year afaik

[hearty pendant]

yea holdfasts use the same pronunciation that lotus does
i'll trust them over the goober that wasn't even aboard

[jade berry]

Tau could be a summer update, just depends on the content pipeline

[solid otter]

Ight ight. Good. Roathe is just weird

No Albrecht all this year actually

How... disappointing.

[jade berry]

Dont hurt me like this

I dont need to remember that its been a year since 1999 dropped

[solid otter]

I want Albrecht.

I want him back

I want to pick apart his brain

[jade berry]

I still sometimes forget that plains of eidolon is nearly a decade old because I remember watching the devstreams for it

[solid otter]

Pick it apart further at least

[hearty pendant]

we get snippets via roathe ig. not much tho

[hoary iris]

im running some descendia, is it normal to be recieving the same part? i just got 2 vinquibus barrel bps when i already have it lol

[jade berry]

Final protoframe boss: Albrecht is qorvex protoframe

[obtuse gyro]

whens tga again?

[foggy mesa]

Holy lore drops from Roathe in KIM man

Did we ever know about the Emperors being a rank ABOVE the 7?

[jade berry]

rng go brrrr

[solid otter]

Still gigafunny Albrecht deadass kidnapped his ass

[obtuse gyro]

unlucky... or lucky?? lol

[jade berry]

Yeah, they just are rarely mentioned

[hoary iris]

is that really an rng thing???? no way

[solid otter]

Pulled him into a van and got loid to drive/j 💔

[obtuse gyro]

we've always dismissed the emperors as being conflated for the Seven, but I guess theres the Seven and then theres the emperors

[foggy mesa]

Yep - that was my read

We kept mixing up the idea of emperors as just another name for the seven.

[obtuse gyro]

but as roathe says, the Emperors are basically asleep at the wheel lol

[jade berry]

Adds a fun question of where since roathe isnt wearing pants

[obtuse gyro]

cuz the executors do whatever they want

[foggy mesa]

Yep - Seven still the worst but like - eesh, the hell were the leaders at the top even like?

[solid otter]

Orokin don't wear pants, historically

[foggy mesa]

And to have Roathe point out that far as bad as Ballas was, he paled next to Nitokh for cruelty

[solid otter]

Nihil, ballas, Tuvul, Albrecht all didn't

[obtuse gyro]

ineffectual from what roathe said

[uncut solar]

Do you think it was "bag on the head" or "I have yuvans in the van" type of kidnapping

[foggy mesa]

Albrecht wasn't one of the seven was he?

[solid otter]

Actually. We saw the rest of the executors in tauron academy

[obtuse gyro]

I mean technically albrecht does wear pants now

[obtuse gyro]

absolutely not LOL

[foggy mesa]

The name drop we got didn't have him did it?

[solid otter]

No, just one of the clothed orokin

[foggy mesa]

Yeah ok I was like wait a minute - Albrecht was not one of them

[jade berry]

The orokin armor roathe wears comes with pants tho

Is what I was going to say but looking at them again they do not actually match super well

[solid otter]

The fact i have to specify that he is one that is clothed is mildly concerning

[hearty pendant]

from what i've seen, closer to "bag on the head"
||walking down the hallway n got stabbed by a helminth syringe||

[uncut solar]

Warframe pantless orokin theory

[hearty pendant]

is it really a theory if its basically true

[obtuse gyro]

Albrecht is too weird and strangely penitent to be a Seven

[uncut solar]

Albrecht's name is too normal to be a seven

[obtuse gyro]

I think... you should keep an eye out. just play two descendia daily for a week

[jade berry]

I'm p sure albrecht was just an archimedian

[solid otter]

Bag on head. Or a 99% alcohol solution on a rag and dragged his ass into a room

[uncut solar]

If his name was something like Albgreg

I would've believed it

[solid otter]

Albrecht is a normal and known german name

[uncut solar]

Yes, it's too normal for an orokin

That's the point I was making

[jade berry]

Sorry, i'm american, I dont know anything other than 'murican

[hearty pendant]

yea, that's the plan
i've seen the warnings to not over-do it lol
despite how much i want to farm uriel and vinquibus

[foggy mesa]

Also Marie is absurdly delightlful

[solid otter]

I was gonna hate on marie but she is genuinely too nice, and not like how Aoi is

[uncut solar]

I had a coworker named Albrecht. He also wore pants weirdly enough

[ionic cloak]

oh, I shouldn't have overdone roathe ?
welp, too late lmao

[obtuse gyro]

tbvf, its no descendia thats progressing that meter

[solid otter]

Oh and if yall can't wait for daily reset, the kimulacrum is back up

[obtuse gyro]

its just listening to the VMs

[solid otter]

New chats and all

[jade berry]

Okay so we know theres some correlation between being named albrecht and wearing pants

[uncut solar]

Yes

[obtuse gyro]

the VMs progress the counter by one each

[hearty pendant]

oh? so i can just ignore the most recent and it won't progress

[obtuse gyro]

go over 21 and you're in for a tougherish time

[uncut solar]

@solid otter professional opinion?

[obtuse gyro]

but spam descendia in a day and it wont move

[dry nest]

kavat breaking logic again

[obtuse gyro]

if you dont listen to the VMs immediately you can just go wild with it

[solid otter]

The idea of me being the Albrecht professional is scary.

But yeah, there seems to be a connection

[hearty pendant]

i see. the temptation for lore will wait, then

[solid otter]

Oh actually. ||The kimulacrum lists a variable called "thermometer". Any of yall know what that could mean?||

[uncut solar]

This is just normal cat behavior

[solid otter]

Spoilering cuz some folk aint gonna want to read it here

[gaunt finch]

Drifter appearance in the kiss scenes are still not fixed after hotfix 2

[uncut solar]

||how heated the conversation gets???||

[obtuse gyro]

oh its tied to the ending

[solid otter]

what.

Oh for hells sake

[uncut solar]

Whuh

[dire slate]

Is the Tenno Old Peace outfit obtainable?

[uncut solar]

It was in caliban prime access

[solid otter]

So like. ||High thermometer means bad ending?||

[jade berry]

Cool off bro

[dire slate]

Ah dip. Well, missed that. I was on hiatus for a while.

[solid otter]

No i got so heated over the loid chat

[obtuse gyro]

spoilers for roathe endings (no details, just mechanics and a name):

running up the thermometer leads to Roathe||Redeemed||

cooling it down leads to Roathe||Villain||

[solid otter]

I was RIGHT get screwed sceptics

[pallid prawn]

I love the Grineer Design as well as the Tenno Suit. Is there a way to get the Uniform for your tenno in current time?

[solid otter]

Ohh. Shit.

[obtuse gyro]

and having it be middling leads to another

but I think thats the worse one

aside from failing of course

[uncut solar]

It leads to ||undercooked||

[solid otter]

||Good ending has Loid reuniting the family, so I'll go for that||

[obtuse gyro]

||Then I advise you to run the heat up||

[solid otter]

||I really hope we get a cutscene or extra family lines.||

[simple python]

Hiiiiiiiiii pookies did someone decode the new syandanas yet?

These.

They have Tenno script on them. So.

[solid otter]

Nup, but we did get the full kimchats for the new protos

[cursive spire]

How do tauron strikes work again

[solid otter]

So feel free to spoil yourself

[simple python]

Fully disserted?

They had issues decoding that iirc yesterday.

[hoary iris]

man im getting many of the same parts some different

[solid otter]

Mhm. Kimulacrum is back up :) flowcharts and all

[obtuse gyro]

"The new KIM will break the kimulacrum"

the humble warframe player:

[hearty pendant]

what was supposed to break kimulacrum?
enough that they were warned about it by DE
some formatting or encryption change or something?

[whole stratus]

tbf, I did have to basically rewrite the tools because the format is entirely different

but I managed it in under 24 hours as promised :^)

[solid otter]

Oh hi kimulacrum person

Wonder why they changed it

[whole stratus]

Probably because it's easier to work with now

[solid otter]

Ohhhhh

I see

[hearty pendant]

huh, interesting
ig that would make sense. use a more streamlined system now that they know it landed well

[whole stratus]

Kinda the opposite, tho. It used to be a bespoke binary format (small disk size, fast parsing). Now it's mostly their equivalent of JSON.

[peak heath]

Spoilers on the Old Peace Kim, can you do a polycule? As in, 1 or more of the new proto frames?

[solid otter]

One of the hex, one of the triad

[peak heath]

Not that I'm particularly inclined to. As Roathe and the Father aren't my type.

Ah, I see. Thanks. So you can have families in different eras. But not multiple partners from the same time.

[hearty pendant]

the hex all say 'no one else in the hex'
dunno if the triad say anything special about the other two
-# i've spoiled myself on the consent convos because i wanted to know if they were written well or last minute additions
-# they're.. alright. mostly.

[solid otter]

I deadass might only romance Roathe for the lore

[peak heath]

Works for me, I can live with not having multiple triad partners. Though for the Hex I previously joked about being the atomicycle.

A krass joke, but very funny at the time.

[jade berry]

I plan on dating everyone once to see if theres a special honoria

[solid otter]

Unlikely

Most you'll get is a honoria on dating a triad member

[jade berry]

They already have honoria tied to being in relationships with the hex members

[peak heath]

I got all of my dialogues first try, ideal route with each to best friends, including in the extra cast bit.

I plan on doing the triad perfectly first try without aid as well.

[whole stratus]

There is a honoria for dating any character, one for each character, but not for 'getting them all'

[peak heath]

Minus Elanor on the hex, whom I romanced. Instead of best-friended.

[solid otter]

I just want Loid ||to see the family he helped raise again.||

Im so normal over it

[peak heath]

So I'm going to try to romance Marie.

[solid otter]

Did yall know Loid was presumably around for Mother's childhood

And helped raise her

[peak heath]

Yep I knew, now I must flee for fear of spoiling myself.

[solid otter]

Albrecht not mentioning that in the requiem logs probably comes from DE not knowing what they wanted to do with human loid

[solid otter]

Dw this is 2 year old information.

When did whispers come out? 2 years ago yeah?

[hearty pendant]

about that, yea

[solid otter]

Neat

[peak heath]

Oh no, this I already knew. What I meant was I was bouncing from the channel in case I catch a glimpse of a spoiler for current content.

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-anotado-noted-noted-gato-noted-cat-gif-15232071836705052766

Noted

Also go pet kalymos you get an honoria from it

[hearty pendant]

but we still can't hug loid

[fringe spear]

so i just ran a perita mission after the Hotfix, did the one that drops ren hypercore and got ascaris prime drops from non bosses. the hotfix notes said the drops were gonna be the same as the mission rewards

[cursive spire]

How do I even destroy the anarchist transport

In the mission where you have to kill repair pads

I killed the repair pads but the transport isn't taking any damage

[hearty pendant]

the tubes on the sides of the transport, they're like the tank's vents

[cursive spire]

Oh I see

[fringe spear]

havent tried another mission but i guess thats something theyre gonna fix in the future idk

[cursive spire]

Yeah they aren't taking any damage either

[hearty pendant]

?

[solid otter]

Unfortunately.

I wish we did

Loid desperately needs one.

[fringe spear]

well i ran the mission that drops ren hypercore, got those, and the acolytes dropped Ascaris Prime

[half light]

hope we get more valdur later on :(

[half light]

read the image again

[fringe spear]

oh

it says regardless

lol

ty

[upbeat bronze]

I'm getting mad annoyed rn about the door its not letting me blast it open

[cursive spire]

Anything that can't be solved by senseless violence is mad annoying tbh

Which means I'm never annoyed because violence is always the solution

[upbeat bronze]

I'm talking about old peace quest...

[cursive spire]

Yeah just blast through the door

Turn into a meteorite and blow that door to smithereens

[peak heath]

Is there a bayonet stance?

[hearty pendant]

drops in descendia i believe

[hexed relic]

can u get the gun/spear from the normal missions or do the parts drop from the tower?

[compact hull]

Can we sign a petition to every major update they introduce the new warframe like how they did for uriel?

[pearl geyser]

Does anyone else feel the story was fragmented? Like it’s missing stuff in between some scenes to make the narrative flow. I get we are seeing glimpses of memory, but everything moves too fast to really track, especially ||Adis going mad, then suddenly calming down.||

[peak heath]

Thanks

[prisma socket]

Exactly as you say, they are "memories," and perhaps to avoid making it too long and getting boring, some things are omitted, because it could be that he let himself be carried away by anger and when he calmed down he realized what he was doing.

[hearty pendant]

regarding the last bit specifically, ||he hurt a friend that he had just been formally bonded to. that kind of thing will bring you back fast||

[jade berry]

I also agree with the perspective that the story was spread out over weeks/months potentially. But I think they could or should have conveyed that if that was the intent

[bronze canopy]

i need to know that is abotu warframe new

[jade berry]

How do the persistent effects work from the tauron strikes? Like I have "Rain of arrows" which "On dealing damage, fire an arrow at an enemy with .45s cooldown between arrows."

I cant see if this is firing and I cant see it, if it only triggers after the tauron strike, if it only works for operator/drifter amp damage, or any damage from the player

[hearty pendant]

i'd guess its during the strike? dunno though

[jade berry]

Well thats going to take awhile to test dang it

[marble karma]

I just lost a bayonet stance in decendia cuz host migration

[jade berry]

👁👄👁

[supple dagger]

Currently playing the old peace, absolutely loving that they're bringing Excalibur prime info the light.. bro is so crazy rn

[plush swan]

I'm trying to collect info about the Perita Rebellion objectives.

These are my tips for Perita Rebellion objectives:

• Touch Brachiolysts (blue shield) to summon enemy targets.
• Hold the Line has turrets. Give them batteries.
• Transport weakpoints turn yellow when you can damage them.
• Hacking a mine gives more progress than detonating it
• A+B=Battery. Each Tenno can assemble batteries separately.
• Consoles @ 0%, 50%, 100%. Codes are shared squad-wide. Spend as fast as possible

What are yours?

[hearty pendant]

ground scanners can be seen fairly easily from above (made even easier by the grapples), if there's only one left its in the center of the circle

[silver burrow]

question, can i just grind the roathe boss over and over again for the blueprints or do i have to wait for the reset?

[hearty pendant]

the weekly rewards are the only thing tied to the reset
the standard stuff for uriel and vinquibus can be farmed normally

[midnight swallow]

anyone got in the room yet?

[scarlet sierra]

Just did the old peace. Ballas is a bum. Bro ducked a fade cause he know we would roast his ass. ✌️😹

Every update somehow makes me hate ballas more and more even though he has been dead for 4 years

[silver burrow]

well then, it's time to kill the hot blue dude over and over again

[jade berry]

Hildryns augment can nuke the transport in one pull.

[half light]

are there more or only 2 of these ?

[hearty pendant]

3 total i believe?

[eager dagger]

Yes I think they were going for adis sees the Grineer ship and realizes Tenno was right but that didn’t play out

[jade berry]

Its one of those quests that would have really benefitted from being longer

[flat tree]

Is this actually possible?

[jade berry]

Literally missed the warframe bit in the bathroom 10/10

[uncut solar]

"to me"

[primal matrix]

No

[jade berry]

I did some googling and found a reddit post. It seems the persistent skills become "persistent" once you activate the strike once. So i'll start spamming free arrows every half second once I get a strike off

[wanton vale]

In the new game mode has anyone else had an issue with falling through the earth after being on merulina?

[lunar adder]

can someone edit this so the eyes are crossed away from each other

[livid portal]

😂

[misty veldt]

Make that a new emoji that would be funny

[lunar adder]

yes lmao

[livid portal]

Absolute cinema

[fleet veldt]

Funny little visual thing I noticed:
Gotva = Galleon, but rifle.
Sagek = Bolkor, but SMG/pistol (just finished crafting mine; sounds nice to the ear).

[lunar adder]

low-key might have to replay the entire quest just so I can do that to my operator

[plush swan]

Ground Scanner hunting by skill level:

• Basic: hot-cold mechanic
• Advanced: identify visually
• Veteran: memorize locations

[frigid canopy]

I was just looking at my chats in kimulacrum, and Roathe has a "thermostat" value. What is that?

[hearty pendant]

affects the ending from what i hear
||iirc, higher is best?||

[shadow forum]

what if wally was separated from tenno all the time, because of the trauma experience and had some aura inside him after fighting the big boss sentient outside of orokin system.

[void roost]

So when can we replay old peace 👀

[shadow forum]

👀

[jade berry]

Ugh, persistent effects are not persistent, it lasted like 10 seconds

Hopefully they tweak these ults

[fleet veldt]

I still remember Transcendance abilities.

[jade berry]

Petrifying everything

Or getting the one tree that would require you to ult once and then be permanently invisible for the rest of the mission

[cobalt scroll]

why???????????

[uncut solar]

You're in a memory, where is your ship going

[cobalt scroll]

but then how tf can I find the somachord?

[ionic cloak]

that mod that increases loot radar and goodluck ig

[obtuse gyro]

turn up the heat

all that I will say

[uncut solar]

Pets have a loot radar already

[jade berry]

Mod, khora venari, separate companion

[cobalt scroll]

and worse, there are duplicate somachord

I just want the Adis song somachord, which have 3 version

[frigid canopy]

oh no. Wouldn't I wanna calm him down?

[bronze glade]

So, is there an implication that Adis is the reason the Operator has the ability to revive in battle? Part of his uh, abilities, were transferred to them? Or am I just, overthinking?

[obtuse gyro]

I cannot say why, but sometimes to cook, you must turn up the heat

[obtuse gyro]

Lotus: "I sensing another Void imprint. It's dark. I see the glow of restraints around the Waframe. I'm trying to surge the revive system but I can't, I'm too far away. A great, faceted eye watches her."

what do you think?

[frigid canopy]

ah, I see. I figured ||making a demon-person angry|| is a bad idea lol

[cobalt scroll]

does anyone have a guide to Manifold somachords? (all 3 if you could please)

[midnight swallow]

why do we even have these skins if shes just gonna wear radiant in quests

[cobalt scroll]

how did you get in there

[midnight swallow]

I walked in

[cobalt scroll]

oh it was blocked before hotfixed

[midnight swallow]

yea

nothing in there other then her

cant even access the dark ui

[cobalt scroll]

yeah strange

[zenith jacinth]

She only wears radiant in old peace bruh

[cobalt scroll]

and at the end of any old peace mission

I wish we can play the new gamemode directly from the "Lotus" room in the image and from Rauthe

[zenith jacinth]

That's what I said

[fierce shuttle]

which tauron strike should i get? i am torn between them and i don't wanna farm for all of them right now

[hearty pendant]

i've enjoyed thara tbh

[zenith jacinth]

The one you would use most

[cobalt scroll]

MISSION, not just quest

[midnight swallow]

exactly. and we havent even had another other quests were she activily in the quest since we got skin options

[fierce shuttle]

no clue which one that is

[zenith jacinth]

I didn't specify quest

[zenith jacinth]

Lotus eaters

[cobalt scroll]

tbh you barely able to use them unless you play endless and move a tons

[hearty pendant]

lotus eaters used them, and angels of the zariman had differing dialogue depending on which you chose

[midnight swallow]

your having a laugh right

[zenith jacinth]

No

[cobalt scroll]

the requirement to use them kinda tedious if you dont have the lens

[midnight swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756

[cobalt scroll]

I mean look at Sentient Natah, she look so cool (and yes ik the whole form is not fitting, but she could just remove the "sentient" part and use only the human part (I love seeing her hollow head with just a face)

[wild wind]

ah, an Unairu main

[zenith jacinth]

Because you're supposed to use lenses

[midnight swallow]

guessing she wasnt natah skin in the quest either which makes the end of quest option even less important

[zenith jacinth]

What, you don't like being proven wrong or smth?

[zenith jacinth]

That's a pancake-waffle tier jump to conclusions

[midnight swallow]

soirryt my responce can not be sent in this server

[sharp birch]

Did you guys spare or kill the racist?

[cobalt scroll]

also I doubt that even if you use the Radiant skin and change color, her in-quest version also gonna use default anyway

[cobalt scroll]

eh he not really "racist", he just being cautious at most

[zenith jacinth]

Spare

[hearty pendant]

he used a slur

[rain otter]

Do I have to have the focus school equipped

For the one I wanna jse?

[cobalt scroll]

yes

[livid portal]

I agree

[rain otter]

Ffffffff

[cobalt scroll]

also it stupid that I can't test the Tauron in simulacrum

[rain otter]

I thought it was a way bound technically

[zenith jacinth]

Obv

[zenith jacinth]

That would be very janky to implement

[cobalt scroll]

and again, even with lens, it still charge too slow, that the buff came with it would die out long before you can charge it again

[jade berry]

The tauron implementation is kinda underwhelming currently unfortunately

[zenith jacinth]

It's supposed to be a classic ult not a constant buff

[jade berry]

And for that to mean something, it needs to do more than tickle a bosses healthbar

[zenith jacinth]

You can, just very slowly

[cobalt scroll]

oh wait, it permanent buff

[jade berry]

no, temporary buff after/while you use your ult from what i've seen

[cobalt scroll]

it does not said what is the duration of the buff
also only during the the ult is pointless lmao

[rain otter]

Okay. I think the only actual problem is the charge timem

And everything else is fine.

[jade berry]

It could be different for the different ones, but the bow one had like a 12 second buff when I procced it, i'd have to go back into a mission to test it again

[cobalt scroll]

here is temporary buff from the exact school

[modern flint]

New war related, uhm, is this SUPPOSED to be happening during the Boreal fight? Or am I stuck Eternally with a screaming archon/lh/hj

[jade berry]

Go into a mission, proc it, and see.

[cobalt scroll]

if it does not say any thing like "for x second" then it permanent

[cobalt scroll]

just wait it out

[zenith jacinth]

Man

Tooltips can miss stuff

[midnight swallow]

lol they fixed it but i stil have the two bps sperate

[cobalt scroll]

I will test a bit, hold on

[plush swan]

Updated note on "targeting array": it is important to remember to spend codes as fast as possible

[midnight swallow]

i need to figure out which one is the og and which one is the fix. so i can keep it

[zenith jacinth]

It's a legacy item now

[midnight swallow]

since they both have the same costs now

[shadow forum]

hm

[zenith jacinth]

Buy another from urinal roach and see which stack increases

[plush swan]

Updated Perita Rebellion tips:

• FOCUS OBJECTIVES
• Touch Brachiolysts (blue shield) to summon enemy targets.
• Hold the Line has turrets. Give them batteries.
• Transport weakpoints turn yellow when you can damage them.
• Hacking a mine gives more progress than detonating it
• A+B=Battery. Each Tenno can assemble batteries separately.
• Consoles @ 0%, 50%, 100%. Codes are shared squad-wide. Collect and spend as fast as possible, because codes can't spawn while others exist.
• Ground Scanners can be located visually, not just by %%. Last scanner @ center of circle
• Use Ciphers (Y) to hack

[shadow forum]

Plus using that abbility from helminth to hack monitors and scanners fast is mostly welcome :D.
Plus abbility to spawn back to a current location saves a lot of time for next objective

[modern flint]

So it has a timer or?

[zenith jacinth]

Also transport weakpoints stick out when vulnerable

[cobalt scroll]

it take a long time lmao

hold on a bit please

[plush swan]

I just use ciphers.

Put it on the gear-wheel and press "Y" to insta-hack

[shadow forum]

You mean that objects who look like excavation battery

[zenith jacinth]

Kinda

[shadow forum]

Oh true

[supple dagger]

I already miss my mister grandpa.. I hated seeing him just laying there on the hand

[modern flint]

im confused on what you mean/lh, but ok??

[cobalt scroll]

do you know how long to charge ONE

my god please be patient

[hearty pendant]

?

[plush swan]

What do you mean "spawn back to a current location"?

[shadow forum]

Saw some people use abbility from helminth to spawn to a current location that they tagged.
Than got back after they finished the current objective and next objective appeared of where they have been doing the first objective.

[shadow forum]

Plus it takes your 600% void strike and you get only 400% void strike.

[cobalt scroll]

oh im very sorry, I thought you are the person who talk about tauron ult

[cobalt scroll]

so there is no buff icon, but there is pages float beside me

[modern flint]

ahhh mk

[prime badger]

Do we alrady know this kuva person?

[hearty pendant]

elder queen, yes

war within, whole quest about her

[prime badger]

It's been too long

[cobalt scroll]

ok the pages is gone

[jade berry]

Pretend i'm doing jazz hands

[modern flint]

should this be like someontting i bring up or something because i dont knnow if itd be locking the quest or annything, genuinely have never had a quest/mission bug before now somehow
-# beyond my drifters hair glowing at random places

[cobalt scroll]

I think it a bug, but he would respawn back after a duration of time

after the clone move

[modern flint]

ive had it sitting the entire time unpaused and dude still wont move, i think its entirely stuck outside the mesh or smthn

[hearty pendant]

best bet is probably restarting the mission tbh

[jade berry]

The "focus" orbs spawn faster when your standing cap is reached? Like, i'm getting a new orb spawning before the previous buff runs out

[modern flint]

time to pray that leaving and rejoining the game entirely will boot me back to the orbiter so i can re-navigate to the mission

[plush swan]

Which ability is that?

[jade berry]

My arrow effect is still triggering, but the only way I can tell is by a high pitched firing sound periodically. These absolutely need buff indicators, either for timing or count or what

[shadow forum]

I wish I knew,even if i saw some gamers use that for the event where we had a lot of formas

[modern flint]

it did thank lord

[astral basin]

anyone know what the stance mod is for the new melee yet and where to get it?

[jade berry]

I dont think theres a helminth ability like that to my knowledge. The closest would be proteas 4, which is not helminth and would just do the time warp thing.

[jade berry]

harrowing something, available from the descendia crates rarely

[plush swan]

I don't know of anything like it.

The closest I can think of are:

• Protea's 4 (non-Helminth) can return you to your original location... but it has a base duration of 8s
• Nova's 3 (non-Helminth) creates portals you can go through
• The Plains of Eidolon (Plague Star map) has fast-travel
• Some bugs cause you to wind up someplace weird if you fall off a cliff

[hearty pendant]

harrowing spire iirc

[astral basin]

that a after old peace?

[jade berry]

There is an operator arcane that warps you back, but its a 3 second time limit with a 3 second cooldown.

[jade berry]

Yes, its also getting bundled into the uriel packs I believe, with scripts rolling out to retroactively grant it to people who bought in tomorrow

[astral basin]

i bought the pack and it didnt give it to me DX

i bought it yesturday

[hearty pendant]

you'll probably be hit by the script that gives it to you during the next hotfix

[plush swan]

Oh, you know what?

If you leave your Warframe behind and just go full-Operator, then you can return to your Warframe by dying

[cobalt scroll]

DE still haven't add prime skin for the Grineer ship

and we literally go in one in the quest

[plush swan]

Downside is you have to be really good at Void Slings and Amp

[astral basin]

i was curious cause the wiki doesnt have the stance mod yet XD

[shadow forum]

Nova's 3 and volt speed buff yep thst both saved many players time to do more quests.
Plus sevagoth abbilities to nuke whole area.
And Oberon to buff allies.
And yes Operators teleport stuff either space.

[jade berry]

They also should give us a corpus drop ship for thematic balance

[shadow forum]

record time to finish the 12 min quests.

[jade berry]

also on the ults, if the current pace of orb spawn is maintained like my last test with it, then it only really takes like 90 seconds for me to proc it again. But, that increased spawnrate only started once I capped my daily focus, which means once the daily reset happens, i get nerfed

[amber terrace]

I have a genuine question: if the Zariman crapped the bed before the Tenno could make it to Tau, then how did we colonize Tau as seen in the Old Peace?

[jade berry]

Just because the zariman failed doesnt mean any other ship did as well

[wild wind]

Different Zariman

The egg is the Zariman Five-Nine

[amber terrace]

So how many Zarimans were there?

10-0, 5-9, I am profoundly and violently confused

[zenith jacinth]

Unspecified

[jade berry]

Theres also too many zariman 10-0's
The one that was recovered by the orokin, the one in duviri, the one in the system that reappeared and is plugging the void hole

[zenith jacinth]

1 and 3 are the same one

[plush swan]

I think I've figured it out.

If you have some ability to NEVER TOUCH THE GROUND, then you can just launch from one position, do whatever, and when you want to return, just fall into a pit and you'll return to where you last touched grass.

Recommended Frames:

• Uriel
• Titania
• Jade
• Wukong
• Any Frame with zero-G aimglide
• Possibly Hildryn

[amber terrace]

I guess my next question is, given that there were multiple Zarimans, what stopped the Orokin from making the same mistake or was the 10-0 recovered and had its telemetry analyzed before the next batch of Zarimans were flung to Tau?

[jade berry]

Not actually confirmed

[zenith jacinth]

Wdym

[fierce summit]

So long before the old war, the OG sentient starfish was sent out to colonize Tau and build a solar rail to connect it back to Sol. It took forever, and the Orokin got impatient, so they started sending out experimental ships to hasten the process. Most of these were unmanned; like each of the World Seeder “eggs” we see in the quest. The Zariman 10-0 was the first manned ship to be sent, but it didn’t work very well and they stopped sending things after it. The colonization progress seen on Tau in The Old Peace is either the result of sentient construction, Orokin installations made during the pre-Peace phase of the Old War, or installations made during the seemingly-short peace period.

[rapid mulch]

is there any significance to le cathedral being set in "xx99" when we enter it? is it not just 1899 like roathe says? or did it get moved to the present and xx is in reference to how obscure the specific timeframe is for the future/present?

[jade berry]

I give you an apple. You eat the apple, the next week I give you an identical apple.

Is it the same apple?

[solid otter]

They removed that line apparently

[plush swan]

I'm pretty sure the 10-0 was sent first, because it doesn't make sense with the Solar Rail the Sentients built if it was sent later

[rapid mulch]

oh, strange.

[zenith jacinth]

Ok but the recovered zariman explicitly returned to the void

[hearty pendant]

i think 10-0 was the last? not sure tho

[jade berry]

Id love to see a source on that

[amber terrace]

I thought the Zariman cork we see in Duviri was the same Zariman 10-0 that the Orokin recovered and that then proceeded to plug the Void hole, like a cork? I remember seeing gray trees in the Zariman’s planet icon in navigation but I may be stupid

[fierce summit]

I thought so to but there’s an interview with Warframe’s lead writer Adrian Bott that confirms the sentients went first and the Zariman was the result of impatience

[plush swan]

So, what, the 10-0 was supposed to race the Sentients?

[solid fern]

not gonna lie, I like this update

[jade berry]

Sentients were first, they were meant to terraform in anticipation of the colonists

[hearty pendant]

there's one tablet in duviri that didn't make sense with the "zariman first" view
the one that asks who is building the rail. but it makes perfect sense with the sentients being first

[amber terrace]

Or at the very least the Zariman we see in Duviri was a product of Drifter’s conceptual embodiment whateverthehell

[solid fern]

And we all know when things happen, it is ballas…

[plush swan]

I'm pretty sure that building the Rail was their main thing

[plush swan]

The Zariman was Tuvul's baby.

Ballas backed the Sentients.

[jade berry]

A bit of this, a bit of that

[hearty pendant]

both, they were supposed to build the rail and begin terraforming

[wild wind]

The one in Duviri is a kind of event horizon reflection

[fierce summit]

No actual evidence or confirmation for this but I think the plan was always going to be to send the Zariman 10-0, it’s only when the sentients took “too long” to build the safe and effective solar rail that the Orokin chose to make the ship attempt a hazardous void jump instead

[wild wind]

That happens to connect to Operator's Zariman through their bedroom

[hearty pendant]

also all of the zariman 10-0s are in the same spot
there's holdfast bounty dialogue that says that's why the layout is always different iirc

[jade berry]

Like I said before, too many zariman tenno's in the system

[wild wind]

after all, Drifter's Zariman basically unfolded into Duviri....

[rapid mulch]

i genuinely love that they stole the plot of event horizon for the zariaman. its such a good movie to steal from

[hearty pendant]

there's only one set of zariman tenno. the ships themselves are a nexus point of sorts, but the people stayed in their realities

except for drifter

[wild wind]

https://tenor.com/view/william-weir-event-horizon-sam-neill-wont-need-eyes-to-see-gif-15977214

[jade berry]

10-0

Ten-Oh

TennO

[wild wind]

yus

[hearty pendant]

yea. that's where they get the name from

[jade berry]

Yes, I was doing wordplay

[solid fern]

When something bad in Warframe happen, it must be by the B man himself

[hearty pendant]

not great wordplay if 'tenno' is a relevant term to the discussion

[jade berry]

Oh yeah, thats right, because people are ships. In our ship discussion. I forgor

thank you for your insight <3

[verbal abyss]

HMMMM.

Grandmother's name is Dagath

[hearty pendant]

was, yes

[verbal abyss]

Did they name the frame after her?

[hearty pendant]

she gave her name to the frame, as she had nothing else to give

[verbal abyss]

Ohhhhhh yeah completely forgot about that

[wild wind]

It's like the headless horseman story

[solid otter]

And Dagath (the frame) accepted that

[wild wind]

Dagath was murdering Orokin at a crossroads at midnight

(which, good show)

Then Grandmother met her and made a very good and insightful offering

[ripe owl]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcVq85wHNDnc5KWe5BGRa3ky6gITapUWa

[gilded cedar]

Knowing Roathe says there's no electricity in the cathedral I've assumed it's before the 18th century

[obsidian halo]

Is the new operator/drifter appearance thing still bugged? Cause between A, B, and C presets, it still carries over partially, like eye colors and stuff

[obtuse gyro]

eh, I think even in the 19th century its not a guaranteed to be a widespread thing

a cathedral in 1899 might not have had electricity

as compared to one in 1999

[dry cove]

Has anyone tried playing old story quests with their new Operator appearances?

[plush swan]

Oh, apparently Lyon knows Rell

[amber terrace]

Sauce?

[zinc herald]

New update is weird

[ember barn]

isthe operator the only on that shows up in quest cuz i dont wanna mess with both rn

[zinc herald]

If my memory serves right its either all operator or mostly operator

[ember barn]

o ok

[grave oyster]

tall mesa was not impressed with me

[uncut solar]

It's only operator

[tight pagoda]

Old Peace is Operator only

[ember barn]

ty

[plush swan]

Dialogue from the scene when I bought the Zenurik Grimoire

He called out to Rell for assistance or smth

[midnight swallow]

welpcant tell which is which

[potent perch]

i got into the dark refactory not sure when the removed they invisible wall

[wild wind]

hotfix 2

[wild wind]

I made the cheaper one and it was fine

Also Sagek absolutely rules, what a delightful machine pistol

[midnight swallow]

na i wanted to keep the goofed one

but now they both have the same values so you cant tell which is gonna be the legacy one

[wild wind]

Oh I had two

[hearty pendant]

farm/buy some more and don't craft the one that's separate?

[midnight swallow]

read at the bottom

they both say i own two now that i bought one more bp

[hearty pendant]

ah

[midnight swallow]

so i have 3 bps. and both of the bps in the crafting say 2

[hearty pendant]

yea, no idea how to differentiate them, then

[wild wind]

not sure if anyone else gets this but I was fighting the Dactolyst and swapped to operator

And the Unairu 2 was hitting it for 5M damage

On SP I mean

[delicate lagoon]

For the first tauron strike I'm planning to get: what focus school do you recommend to upgrade?

[lunar adder]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[wild wind]

literally, pick your favorite

Or your first one

Most have something to recommend them

Even Vazarin, the so-called worst school, can rez dead players in arbitration and Archimedia

[delicate lagoon]

Res dead players in archimedea? That's something.
But if favorite (even subjective) is actual "objective" meta... then...

Zenurik or Madurai?

[wild wind]

now we're cooking

[plush swan]

Vazarin is next on my to-do.

I went Madurai -> Zenurik

[obtuse gyro]

Im going madurai first just because I always use madurai

[wild wind]

Do you want 200 bonus power strength or an artillery strike from god

[rain otter]

it also just seems good even in like

[wild wind]

that's Zenurik vs. Madurai

[rain otter]

Offenese sistuatuons.

[delicate lagoon]

Damn... now that makes it harder to choooooose lololol

Both are WAAAAY too good!

[wild wind]

Okay, get a coin

[plush swan]

I use Zenurik for Perita, otherwise it would have been, like, #4

[wild wind]

Heads Madurai, tails Zenurik

[rain otter]

Okay I have a question chat. i have seen a lot of PEOPLE say like "oh the tauron strikes aren't strong enough" and i feel like i'm in a "incarnon week 1" situtation.

[wild wind]

Flip it and tell me what you get then I have a question

[rain otter]

I think the most valid thing is about the charge up being too slow.

[delicate lagoon]

Ok. Never mind. It's gonna be Madurai causse apparently I need 5.5 mil to max a focus school out, and my Madurai is at 5 mil

The rest are about 2 mil short

[wild wind]

well there you go lol

[rain otter]

i just can't take seriously the like "the damnage is too low" WHEN IT'S BEEN 2 DAYS.

[wild wind]

but also I have most of Unairu done and it hasn't cost more than 1.3M

[plush swan]

I haven't gotten to test my Tauron Strikes yet, because I've only been able to use them on Perita bosses that die too fast for the animation

[rain otter]

didn't they make the bosses

more tanky in the last patch?

[wild wind]

what I will say is that the Unairu strike hasn't been performing like I'd hoped

[hexed terrace]

DID THE CALL ALWAYS PLAY ON THE HOLLVANIA STAGE?

[wild wind]

Sure it generates orbs and ammo, but I'm playing Protea

[rain otter]

I mean

[wild wind]

it's one of the options

[hexed terrace]

I never knew you could do that, probably a Rank 5 thing

[plush swan]

I use Roar Protea, and get, like, +200% Roar, then poke things with Acuity Burston Prime Incarnon

[wild wind]

correct

[rain otter]

I feel like each one augments the schools in a cool way.

[wild wind]

the song you pick there goes on the stage

[rain otter]

I hope the charge time is speed up

and if the damage numbers are too low that they are buffed.

[wild wind]

I just wish I could see what the AOE is on Cogron

[rain otter]

I feel like people also aren't MODDING THE STRIKES AT ALL.

either.

[delicate lagoon]

The only true answer will always be...
the bois

[wild wind]

eh you can't actually directly mod the damage

[rain otter]

that's fair.

[wild wind]

The artefact mods change your Operator's functionality/buff the amp

[plush swan]

The one time I landed damage with the Madurai Strike, I saw a tick for like 3mil

[wild wind]

Which is great, my (eidolon) amp is killing level 165 enemies finally

I still need to craft the 747

[plush swan]

Just one, the boss didn't last long enough for a second tick

[rain otter]

yee.

i think the like

547 is the best GENERAL USE?

[plush swan]

Yeah, this makes Artifacts worth it on its own.

Operator PSF

[rain otter]

could be incorrect.

[wild wind]

5 is the flamethrower?

[rain otter]

oh i'm owned

[wild wind]

7 is the solid beam which I like a bit better

[rain otter]

is it what i am thinking of

might be 347?

[plush swan]

5xx is three round burst

[rain otter]

or 147?

IT IS 5 okay.

[hearty pendant]

isn't 5 the regular laser that doesn't have the issues that 1 has?

[solid fern]

Decendia companions still gone for some reason

[plush swan]

I use 543

[cobalt scroll]

wait so the reason we can revive is because of Adis?

[rain otter]

3?

[hearty pendant]

possibly. certainly implied

[rain otter]

isn't 7 better there? @plush swan

[cobalt scroll]

I heard someone said in the quest, you can't revive

[plush swan]

5xx for precision pokes
x4x for massive damage
xx3 in case I ever care about status

[wild wind]

that's important for a x7x amp, but I really like this instead

Box breaker operator \o/

[plush swan]

You have 5 slots

Do both

[wild wind]

oh the others are actually important

[cobalt scroll]

there is a mod that make Op have a mini PSF right?

[wild wind]

Operator jump height, amp multishot

Yeah that's what RadiantPhoenix is talking about

[plush swan]

PSF with upside

[cobalt scroll]

invisible right?

I dont remember

[plush swan]

Void Mode.

[uncut solar]

Yeah, you just go down and screen goes black

And you restart, no revives

[wild wind]

OH

[cobalt scroll]

that really interesting

[wild wind]

OH HUH YEAH THAT'S TELLING

[plush swan]

Which should make you invisible and invincible for the duration

[cobalt scroll]

so only us can revive

[wild wind]

no no, other Warframes have revives

[cobalt scroll]

the scene in war within make so much sense now

[uncut solar]

I want to test if revives work when you start shooting up the academy

[wild wind]

I know what it is

[plush swan]

I don't think I died, so I probably didn't experience that.

[uncut solar]

That would solidify it

[wild wind]

We traded Wally our light

Adis gives you HIS light

so now we're a normal tenno

[cobalt scroll]

what?
we are human
human die

there is no light

[uncut solar]

"no-no, that's not how the story goes, let's do that again"

[wild wind]

Warframes have built-in revive protocols

[hearty pendant]

"you can't kill the devil, tenno, but you can send it back to hell"

[cobalt scroll]

I mean before we shake the hand

[cobalt scroll]

source?

[hearty pendant]

hidden messages, lotus says she's trying to force the revive systems

[cobalt scroll]

then why excal prime die?

[wild wind]

Lotus: "I sensing another Void imprint. It's dark. I see the glow of restraints around the Waframe. I'm trying to surge the revive system but I can't, I'm too far away. A great, faceted eye watches her."

[uncut solar]

I'm really tempted now to replay old peace and see if revives are enabled when you possess Uriel

[wild wind]

So

Canon

[uncut solar]

Because they are absolutely not enabled before the Adis scene

[wild wind]

Other Tenno can revive fine while you can't, if you traded this light to Wally

[cobalt scroll]

or she saying this because she don't want to accidentally let us remember Adis

[wild wind]

nah

[obtuse gyro]

its not even your own warframe lol

[wild wind]

if it's just a normal function, we'd be normally expected to have it

[cobalt scroll]

Then pls explain those warframe died by Stalker, die during the Kahl section

[wild wind]

reviving isn't infinite

like it is in-game

*as, excuse me

[obtuse gyro]

dude

[hearty pendant]

ran out of revives, they don't seem to be bound to the frames*, so the tenno just dropped out of transference
-# unless a certain radiation is present, i guess? is that going to be followed up on at all or-

[obtuse gyro]

come on man

[obtuse gyro]

the mirage literally dies here

what kind of gotcha is that

the revive system doesnt mean that your frame can never die

[cobalt scroll]

No pls enlighten me, if Warframe has revive system, why Excal Prime have NONE

[hearty pendant]

i'd guess we're unable to trigger it, as we don't have that light until after

[obtuse gyro]

hell, that cutscene wasnt even you reviving excal

it was you being revived

[cobalt scroll]

but as you guy said, it a system, so "light" here kinda not make any sense

also we still owe Wally sth, he taking our light sound weird

[wild wind]

I mean he says he's taking it

[hearty pendant]

we already know he took our 'light'
that's how the deal is initiated
"lost your light? here, you can take mine." "thanks kiddo, i think i will"

[cobalt scroll]

Like I kinda confused, why we not revive excal prime? Does it just lack the system entirely (or we used it all during the Rogue Sentient fight?)

[wild wind]

He takes it, Adis replenishes it

[obtuse gyro]

no after the final fight

[wild wind]

Now the Tenno can revive Warframes, as they should be able to

that's what I mean yes

[obtuse gyro]

you walk off to find uriel instead of reviving your excal

[wild wind]

right, cuz it's already dead

Princess Bride rules

https://tenor.com/view/princess-mostly-dead-slightly-alive-the-princess-bride-gif-15503255

I love how I can bring any Warframe discussion over to this movie

[cobalt scroll]

so my theory is that Excal Prime is a prototype or sth like that, that why it so flaw compare to warframe we use today

[wild wind]

I mean, Excalibur Prime isn't the first Excalibur sooo

[hearty pendant]

i mean
what better frame to destroy the academy with. we obviously know where its at
we're making a statement

[wild wind]

right but you still could have taken your Excalibur Prime to reach Uriel

[cobalt scroll]

I wonder how the OP know what Uriel capable of though?

[cobalt scroll]

this tbh

[wild wind]

that's why I think the Excalibur was dead dead

If the player Tenno was flawed in some way for lacking this light, that might be what it takes to rez a Warframe

The parts fit, is all

[hearty pendant]

more dramatic to walk the whole way, not like the academy will be gone before you get there /s
but yea i think the excal prime fully died because we couldn't activate the revive

[cobalt scroll]

ah wait I just realized, our OP is not using Transference from Margulis, they just hop in the warframe with void power

because she only use it when our OP come to her room

[wild wind]

oh good point yes

She uses basic empathy some application of transference to induce you to sleep

[cobalt scroll]

and Ballas then use it for war (lmao)

[wild wind]

He would

Looks like a smurf, acts like a Gargamel

[cobalt scroll]

also since Margulis use this to erase our memories, maybe Ballas do the same thing on Natah?

[wild wind]

didn't have to, he programmed her early on, supposedly

he just ran the programs he built in, not realizing she'd go FULL Sentient and brutalize him

[cobalt scroll]

so in conclusion: revive a warframe only possible with transference and "light" (?)

[wild wind]

if we're right about the sequence of events

Does cross the t's and dot the i's though

[cobalt scroll]

I have a crazy theory
So we know that 2 A.I could exist in the same body

What if Ballas glassed Margulis in secret, then use her "data" and put in Natah?

[wild wind]

hmm

[hearty pendant]

why would he, though?

[wild wind]

that would be tough to pull off

[cobalt scroll]

he "love" her

[wild wind]

because Lotus remembers facing the Jade Light

[cobalt scroll]

also Lotus said she has conflict in her mind

[wild wind]

so, I think she DOES have the real Margulis's memories, and not what Ballas programmed into her

but I don't think Ballas put them there

[cobalt scroll]

true, maybe he only extract Margulis memory

[hearty pendant]

and when would that happen, the jade light is pretty complete in its.. disintegration

[uncut solar]

She ate Margulis, she is a sentient skinwalker

[austere iris]

Just woke up. What did they announce at game awards? Hi everyone. 👋

[wild wind]

nothing

[hearty pendant]

a trailer-esque thing. seems like they're changing the tagline. nothing else

[uncut solar]

A fishy nothingburger of a trailer that might tease Wally's voice actor

[wild wind]

Except Werner Herzog cut a trailer for Warframe.

.....as the Man in the Wall

[austere iris]

Oh...

[cobalt scroll]

well we don't know if she die in front of the Seven, she maybe was bring somewhere to be executed

but it just a theory
of GAME THEORY

[austere iris]

Ohhhhhh...

[thick jolt]

Well perintol's pov made it seem like it was right then and there

[hearty pendant]

the archimedeans are executed in that chamber based on the synthesis thing involving perintol
so i don't see why that would be different

[thick jolt]

As in jade light executions

[cobalt scroll]

to be fair, Ballas is smart, he invent a bolt that make Umbra remember his son death, so if he make a jade light that can extract her memory out later on does not sound that impossible

But yeah she prob just dead for real

also funny that our OP use "Rap tap tap" while seeking for Ballas

idk if Wally invent those word or it's ours

[sinful plover]

Uriel's music In the story is epic, does it have a name?

[cobalt scroll]

it's called Roses From The Abyss

[hearty pendant]

wally just taps on stuff, rell put words to it as 'rap tap tap'
though that could also be us, now? sorta?
idk the void is outside of time so causality is weird

[sinful plover]

This is all still happening after the incident and the deal. We are still the sole survivor of our class.

[cobalt scroll]

I mean Wally choose to copy us a lot, so maybe he copy rap tap tap too

[hearty pendant]

mm
all of the children were given powers, nothing really says the rest died?

[sinful plover]

Oh yeah true. I always assumed I guess

[cobalt scroll]

isn't most children survive though

[obtuse gyro]

I dont think it needs to be timey wimey stuff

[wild wind]

The Zariman had many many children

[obtuse gyro]

I think its just us letting the "voices" talk

[cobalt scroll]

ofc some dead due to the adult and void power but overall they all survive

[wild wind]

Hundreds of thousands could die and hundreds of thousands could still survive

[hearty pendant]

yea, its just where the phrase came from

[cobalt scroll]

could be

is there a rap tap tap game irl btw?

[wild wind]

not specifically, even shave and a haircut is five

[sinful plover]

Rap Tap Revolution

[wild wind]

pfft

[gilded cedar]

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING WITH THE PRIME VANGUARD RECALL MISSION???

[thick jolt]

Fireworks?

[wild wind]

yeah DE really took it personally when people said it was too easy on SP

[thick jolt]

Did they?

[uncut solar]

First time I'm saying it but this should be immune to garuda lol

[thick jolt]

I just finished 2 of them and didnt notice anything

[wild wind]

my first run of them in Hotfix 2 had one rando howling in chat out of sheer delight that it was finally a fight

[obtuse gyro]

lol thats a fully built build for sure

[wild wind]

everyone got downed two or three times

[obtuse gyro]

Im going to reconfigure my inaros and go at it

None of them can deal mag procs or nullify

so theyre about to be lost egypt

[wild wind]

hahaha

[thick jolt]

Just temple with a barely formad tenet glaxion (lvl 34)
3 of the squad did 20% damage each (me included) the 4th person did 40%
Think one guy managed to go down but i was running vazarin

That aside no real trouble just point and shoot

[wild wind]

*unless Ember gets her 4 off, then have fun

[thick jolt]

Again temple with vazarin

They really didnt manage to do much

[gilded cedar]

Before the 2nd phase... Thanks Protea

[thick jolt]

Also this was a pub so no coordination

[wild wind]

lol once the rest of the squad realized she was healing the not-dead ones we stopped her from causing too much trouble

[thick jolt]

I think the only vanguard attack i know is ash's which i block with temple's 3rd

[wild wind]

I do really like that DE is going out of their way to make Warframes feel like absolute monsters by having them fight against you

Oh yeah the second time I went down is because of Ash

the first time was the meteors interrupting Temporal Anchor

[obtuse gyro]

And then I teach them what it means to fear, and why Im the one that made it to the end of the Old War

[thick jolt]

Lol

[wild wind]

haaahahahaha

[gilded cedar]

The 2nd phase is completely unnecessary IMO

[wild wind]

All the bosses have a second phase, though the Dactolyst needs a real one

[south fable]

“Wow I finally beat those warframes”

Warframe 2 announcement

[wild wind]

pfffffft

[thick jolt]

By 2nd phase do you mean all 5 together?

[wild wind]

Six

[gilded cedar]

Yes

[thick jolt]

Oh right ember is there

[wild wind]

see I thought it was going to be a Caliban joke since none of us mentioned him

[thick jolt]

She kinda t-poses in a corner

[thick jolt]

Ah the joke is i was using the better heat warframe against her

[south fable]

Mine is using my own, better built ember

[wild wind]

fair lol

I really enjoyed facing off against the nega-Proteas

[thick jolt]

No but really i havent run into trouble in any of the fights even after the hotfix

[south fable]

THE HUH PROTEAS??

[wild wind]

I was playing Protea

thus, the commandeered protea is nega-Protea

Oh speaking of Old Peace kit, anyone else have Sagek Prime?

[thick jolt]

Didnt sound interesting so didnt make it

[wild wind]

This has been a VERY good year for automatic pistols, and Sagek is a great way to end the year

[thick jolt]

I like the hungry techrot power drills

[wild wind]

Torxica yeah

The other standout

Even when I was levelling it Sagek was performing close to that level

once I forma it once or twice it might be in the same ballpark

[amber terrace]

Hear me out, what if the requirement for speaking to Lyon is that you need to get all of the Tauron weapons

[rain otter]

I don't think that's it.

Also what does he even have?

[fierce summit]

Issues

[rain otter]

I meant

At his vendor. Lmao.

[hearty pendant]

furniture, apparently

[wild wind]

you just have to rank Marie up to 3 in her KIM

[amber terrace]

Ah, did you get this from the patch notes? (I don’t regularly read the patch notes 🙁 )

[tulip moon]

Tested 3/5 tauron strikes

So far my rank from worst to best is Lorak, Thara, and Nidri

[rain otter]

with upgrades or nah?

[tulip moon]

Before the zenurik heads slaughter, Lorak is really good, im just not on a huge demand of energy

[amber terrace]

Is it possible to charge Tauron strike in Simulacrum?

[rain otter]

i feel like the more nodes matter but you know.

[tulip moon]

Fully upgraded

[rain otter]

Gotcha.

[hearty pendant]

yea but it takes an absurd amount of kills

[tulip moon]

Takes forever, just playing disruption to cap while using a lens

[rain otter]

okay Question

is the DPS fine? i knwo the charge is too long

But i just have been told very different things.

[tulip moon]

I mean I don't use it for dps, mostly for utility

[rain otter]

fair.

[tulip moon]

However thara and Lorak have the best dps

[rain otter]

can you tell me

the school and not their names cuz i don't know their names.

[tulip moon]

Lorak is pretty good for single targets, Thara is good for a AOE

Lorak is zenurik

Thara is madurai

Zenurik is good for single targets since it's just a beam, but the strike does demand striking a lot of enemies for its full potential

However madurai is much better in terms of consistency with buffing

[shut hull]

Any details on how the spectral pages from Lorak work?

[rain otter]

is Nidir like Vaz or something else?

[tulip moon]

They work similar to Dante's ability

[tulip moon]

Nidri is vazarin yes

[rain otter]

reading the Vaz like

[tulip moon]

Vazarin is really nutty in terms of utility

[rain otter]

Nodes you give it. it seems crazy

[tulip moon]

It is

[rain otter]

even in just like stealing overguard

[tulip moon]

Being able to summon the dead is nuts

[rain otter]

which matters.

[shut hull]

So what's the maximum total stat bonus you get out of them?

[tulip moon]

Can't remember for the life of me but the cast speed, strength, and duration is a nice heft bonus

Better than madurais 50 strength only

The DMG on madurai is pretty strong tho

Tomorrow I'm going for unairu and naramon

[shut hull]

Since you get strikes so rarely I'm mostly curious if the duration bonus is large enough to make it worthwhile to occasionally extend my buff cycle.

[wild wind]

yeah I did

[rain otter]

I feel like you have to use them as soon as you get them for them to be alright.

But the charge shouldn't be as long.

[tulip moon]

Some are more valuable than others, Having a Vazarin in your squad will always be a bonus tho

They vortex gives status chance, strips overguard, instantly revives even when dead, and heals 250/s

Oh and has a 45 second timer which is gonna be nuts for game mods like archemedia and cascade

[shut hull]

Hm. I wonder if grimoire buffs build if you have the alt fire going and the grimoire out and then enter operator. Could I throw my alt fire at a group, enter operator, activate the tauron strike and get like a hundred something percent duration bonus? I'll have to check that when I get home.

[tulip moon]

Idk if it works or not but tomorrow I'm gonna test out if external buffs work on them as well

Like conductive sphere since that works on operator amps

I should also probably mess around with the Mods as well

I'm using all red mods from each tree cuz it tickles my brain but there are probably better combinations

[shut hull]

I've been thinking of running one of each school to maximize the initial charge one

[tulip moon]

I might do that or focus on amp damage

[amber terrace]

Difter’s stand in is Marty, what’s Opertor’s name?

[hearty pendant]

mara, i guess
its what they use internally for scripts n stuff

[slow steeple]

it was Werner Herzog's voice in the "????????" stream XD

[wild wind]

yeah I couldn't believe it

When people said during the stream it looked like Werner Herzog I just went "nah"

https://tenor.com/view/damn-friday-ice-cube-chris-tucker-shocked-gif-5321788

[thorny barn]

Y'all notice the logo for the 1599 crew is the Scaldra Logo in 1999?

Obviously two differences being the flip and the sword instead of the line

I don't remember if the Scaldra had any religious undertones.

[undone lodge]

Nope

[woeful patio]

On this theory.... Nira is a massive....snake...

Oh god...it terrifies me to think on that.

[solid fern]

anyone feel like 150 each for a focus is a bit too much?

[amber terrace]

Genuine question: does my operator/drifter strictly need to be a self insert or can I make them whoever/whatever I want?

I ask because I’m not a woman or a redhead

[tight pagoda]

Scaldra is very much has religious fanaticism

[uncut solar]

they are a cult that has appropriated the imagery

[latent skiff]

what does "colourful kutak" mean? i know the word from turkic languages but he might've meant something else?

[potent warren]

Yo, stupid question, how do we proc new convos with Roathe / Marie? Ive been playing the new modes and have only had like, two convos total :c

[thorny barn]

Ah, makes sense.

[thorny barn]

Just talk to em

They work exactly like the Hex, new convo every daily reset

[potent warren]

Ooo, I thought hex was tied to calendar completion

That makes sense then, thank you!

[thorny barn]

Tied to syndicate rank and daily reset

but the 1599 crowd dont got a syndicate

[potent warren]

Gotcha, okay! :D

tyvm

[night blaze]

i took a break from the game for a couple months and im back and now apparently werner herzog is in warframe? what the hell is going on

someone please enlighten me

[solid raven]

I think they did, cuz I remember Victor tells them to pray to the sun and lua before parachuting in (one of his voicelines I think)
Plus the whole obsession with sol and lua in 1999

[tame rapids]

Sooo... uh, is Werner Herzog supposed to be the Man in the Wall on the trailer?

[flat loom]

Who

[night blaze]

...

werner herzog? bafta nominated filmmaker and actor?

[flat loom]

I know :>

[night blaze]

then why did you ask who....?

[flat loom]

T'was but a ragebait

[night blaze]

i see

i mean it mostly just confused me

[flat loom]

I apologize, I felt childish

Rebb has been collecting every great VA

[midnight swallow]

WOOOW triad soo rude they wont even talk to the operator

[flat loom]

Again, apologies from the random shit

But yes, it does look like sir heznog is absolutely going to be wally

The indifference itself

[night blaze]

nah its cool lol

[flat loom]

Oh this shit gonna be epic

[night blaze]

yeah thats wild