spoiler-chat

[pale grove]

The golden arrogance

[wild coral]

He felt like more a little bro to me

[covert quest]

whichever school out of these you use the most

[zenith jacinth]

Which do you use

[gilded night]

All three they're my most progressed

[reef compass]

To us and a friend yes, but not to the Orokin

[cursive spire]

Naramon for sure

Big ass sword

[gilded night]

Each has a unbound thing aswell

[round pawn]

May i recommend corvas prime

[zenith jacinth]

Which do you like to use most

[woeful jacinth]

Can't beat big ethereal sword

[wild coral]

Man i wish we could put ballas in the infinite death loop

[cursive spire]

Nah I just need to actually make an archgun build lmao

[jade berry]

Wheres JoJo when you need it?

[gilded night]

That's a fair question, honestly I think zenurik being able to support people with constant energy regent has been a go to since I got it

[stark ravine]

Who added Lex Luther to warframe?

[cursive spire]

Rn my larkspur is just a tickle beam

[wild coral]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-anime-windy-stare-looking-gif-17841830

[cursive spire]

I also super wasn't expecting an archwing boss fight lol

[zenith jacinth]

Lemme scan his corpse to put him in sanctuary

[wild coral]

Now u gotta build it

Necramechs in perrita next update plz

[tropic venture]

Jordas Golem is already J-3 Golem 2

[woeful jacinth]

1A!

[cursive spire]

Considering putting forma into either arbucep or mausolon

Both are fun asf

[zenith jacinth]

Morgha

[stark ravine]

M&Ms

[wild coral]

None, build kuva grattler for big dakka

[wild coral]

Lex Luther paying for that hair transplant

[pale grove]

I don't enjoy the fact the hairs are too shiny/greasy and the update made even male operators feel too female'ish

[cursive spire]

Oh yeah I totally forgot I have a full k grattler build

Kill me now

[round pawn]

Time to buy boosters and farm uriel mats

[zenith jacinth]

I feel like they accidentally forgot to include like 2/3rds of all faces

[cursive spire]

Or better yet buff archmelee

[stark ravine]

🤣

[scarlet wren]

https://tenor.com/view/fantasy-logo-chris-brown-gif-2341687437942881783

[pale grove]

I farmed all of uriel yesterday only had mats for 1 part 🥲

[wild coral]

https://tenor.com/view/more-dakka-warhammer40k-ork-orks-dakka-gif-15898836

[valid mural]

Archmelee really needs some love next yeah

[wild coral]

Big dakka

[zenith jacinth]

The resources are pain

[cursive spire]

Archmelee has needed love for years

They exist as a cosmetic

[pale grove]

Ikr felt the same

[wild coral]

Ima go farm for tauron strike

[tropic venture]

weird how it's like 20, 41, 57, 58, 59, 72

[wild coral]

Nice chat chat, also free daklo

[zenith jacinth]

That's my reasoning

[dusk bolt]

Wally watching us head to the Academy with Uriel:

[pale grove]

Also the voices i always used Heron if not mistaken, now Owl sounds the best imo

[cursive spire]

I killed that stupid clanker

[gusty hull]

It’s actually so wild seeing so much past dialogue being put into perspective — Ballas calling you devil, Helminth/Lizzie calling you demon

[valid mural]

Give em’ better stats, some stance stuff, and probably give them some sort of power strike akin to drifter melees

[zenith jacinth]

Unrelated to uriel

[wild coral]

It’s funny cause technically hes human

[woeful jacinth]

They made me do it!

[stark ravine]

Im keeping the M&Ms operator i hope i dont get copy right striked

[tropic venture]

That's mainly because the Void is often referred to as "hell"

[gusty hull]

Same lmao

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah cephalons aren't clankas

[cursive spire]

Let's run down the bullet points

• Racist
• Annoying voice
• Clanker body

Conclusion: I don't care he dies with the rest of them

[wild coral]

Based explanation ngl

[tropic venture]

Just those wouldn't matter much since Archmelees can still only be used in Archwing missions. Not even Necramechs can use them

[tropic venture]

That is unironically a pretty racist justification

[valid mural]

If you really think about it you kinda are.
You’ve made pacts, hold power beyond simple comprehension, and leave destruction in your wake.

For your enemies or those who know your power, it’s a completely rational statement as you share some fundamentals.

[molten gyro]

Does anyone know if there's a translation for Amar's dialogue to Adis during Old Peace?

[cursive spire]

Daklo is like league of legends players aka it's not racist if they are subhuman

[brave osprey]

I spared his ass, if he somehow returns in next story his life warranty is forfeit. And I'll enjoy it.

[tropic venture]

Atm we do not know Sentient speech, no

[little fossil]

is there a guide on where to farm the materials for uriel bps?

[wild coral]

We the know

[tropic venture]

Perita Rebellion

[pale grove]

That seeked redemption further down the timeline

[molten gyro]

Rip, thanks for the confirmation! 😄

[little fossil]

is that a youtuber?

[zenith jacinth]

Bruh

[tropic venture]

it's one of the two new gamemodes

[gusty hull]

I think the peak of this quest though was seeing the Grineer in their prime, before their genetics got absolutely filtered

[valid mural]

Killing Daklo is a mercy, because he’s trapped in that cephalon body for who knows how long and (probably) hates being only able to float, talk, and do random techy things (if at all)

[feral barn]

I hate him, i really do....but i want that fashion

[zenith jacinth]

...we just forgettin about bonewidow?

[tropic venture]

That can only use its Exalted Archmelee, not Archmelee weapons in general

[little fossil]

oh i see in that event theres 3 modes does 1 mode drop more specific loot than the others?

[zenith jacinth]

Archmelee is archmelee

[tropic venture]

They have entirely separate loot tables and gamemodes

[jade berry]

They drop one of the three resources at about 15 each, so you gotta run each type like 10 times per ult

[little fossil]

okay where do i see the loot tables

[zenith jacinth]

For your purposes they're all the same

[pale grove]

Alot of people seem to fail grasping that the old peace events are several months/years timewise 🤔

[woeful jacinth]

Man.....he got that drip on him tho

[brave osprey]

Each day if he still lives, is in fear of ME coming back. MF BETTER CHECK HIS WALLS AND HIS FIREWALLS.

[tropic venture]

wiki, or just read item descriptions as those usually tell the source

[little fossil]

ty

[tropic venture]

patch notes also explain it all

[woeful jacinth]

Kinda makes it insulting that he managed to rizz up Lotus while dressing himself with just a random bedsheet he found considering how he had that type of drip in his wardrobe

[feral barn]

I let him live sooo....what sins as he committed?

[tropic venture]

Saying like two somewhat racist comments

[feral barn]

looks at Zeus and Poseidon

[tropic venture]

which is enough to warrant the death sentence apparently

[brave osprey]

Hell nah I just don't like him

[feral barn]

Meh, might warrant a punch to the gut, but not death

[woeful jacinth]

I dunno about Poseidon but I wouldn't call what Zeus was doing rizz

[static nimbus]

So... Margulis was just an Orokin collaborator after all.

[jade berry]

Its so funny that roathe isnt wearing pants and you can just look up at his junk

[tropic venture]

Kinda unclear atm just how much she was really in on it

[valid mural]

I wouldn’t kill someone for the words they say as well. (unless it’s void-tongue)

[static nimbus]

The way she said "You already know the truth" makes it pretty clear imo

No one who is innocent says that.

[cursive spire]

Always has been

[feral barn]

Poseidon had more offspring than Zeus and Zeus did many times just seduced people, Poseidon did similar though he stuck more with seducing

[static nimbus]

Knowing Roathe, do you think it's not on purpose?

[woeful jacinth]

Hmmm interesting

[jade berry]

I just think its funny from a design perspective, because they had to intentionally model and texture it

[tropic venture]

After we asked "Please tell me you're innocent"

Aka. we know by feeling she's not fully guilty even if there's no concrete evidence of it

[static nimbus]

Yeah Poseidon has a higher volume, his stories are just not that interesting (for the most part) because Amphitrite is not as vindictive as Hera.

[cursive spire]

Seems on brand for orokin

[opaque dove]

There’s probably something there. Like a cloth

[static nimbus]

"Tell me you had nothing to do with it" is a rhetorical question. It's actually an accusation, which Margulis basically answers with "stop deluding yourself, you already know the answer to that question".

[static nimbus]

You hope.

[feral barn]

Yup, also not forgetting, Zeus for all hus faults and bad actions, was not the worst one there either

[opaque dove]

I mean, you’d hope he’s not just letting all hang there

[feral barn]

And Ares was actually the best partner to have as he if mythology is applied, always did things with explicit consent

[static nimbus]

Ares barely did things. He doesn't have many demigod myths.

Plus, let's not give him too much credit. He's canonically sleeping around with another man's wife.

[feral barn]

Most of his myths involve wars and anger issues, but even then outside of that, Ares seems to be the most chill compared to everyone else

[feral barn]

I mean, yeah, but at the same time, though he's a scumbag for that, she's a hoe for consenting if mythology is to be believed

[static nimbus]

I mean... "outside of his anger issues, he's chill" is a statement that could apply to anyone. The anger issues is what causes the lack of chill.

[static nimbus]

Oh, yeah, both parties are definitely at fault here, but still.

[feral barn]

True, he's not without fault, but compared to the rest of the Greek pantheon- I'd chill with Ares any day of the week

[static nimbus]

I'd probably pick Hestia.

Artemis would also be fun if I were a woman.

[feral barn]

Nice picks

[reef compass]

Ah, the Indifference towards it

[real niche]

(Roathe KIM convo)
Holy hell he just lays into the idea that ||"Wally is a god"||

[dire slate]

Does anyone have the sparknotes version of The Old Peace? I think I got confused at the the sequence of events that happened.

[reef compass]

Which part you didnt get? Did you skip cutscenes? I almost did clicking stuff

[real niche]

What did you understand, firstly

[undone lodge]

Wait it’s actually there?

[jade berry]

Close enough, they made a design choice of having his ass and crotch be infested already

[static nimbus]

Cowards 🙁

[jade berry]

I hope I get banned for this

[static nimbus]

Aw hell nah

[jade falcon]

excuse me

[tropic venture]

https://tenor.com/view/gorillaz-murdoc-gif-27232107

[undone lodge]

Damn, only frame to lose their bits

Albrecht definitely did ts on purpose

[static nimbus]

Ban Roathe from Captura right now, people are going to do terrible things with him.

[reef compass]

So THAT is what the tail is

[dire slate]

What I know:

• Tenno eventually got to Tau and become friends with Adis.
• Sentient got captured and was deprived of the Tau bloom, going berserk.
• Tenno kills sentient, Adis gets existential.
• You escort Ballas.
• You graduate and get married to Adis?
• Archimedean dies and you have a mission to quash Galastra(?)'s rebellion.
• The Tau blooms still die?
• You and Adis go Crisis Core.
• Adis resurrects you.
• You go full Doctor Heaven Sent/Hell Bent on the Orokin.
• Margullis has no eyes and makes you fall asleep.

[static nimbus]

Also, sue me, but I kinda wish proto skins were earnable in game. They really feel like they should be earnable lore wise.

[reef compass]

Ballas gave codes to burn the flowers to get back Sentients to being back to the Hivemind

[tropic venture]

Throwback to this comment

[static nimbus]

The Tau blooms died because the Executors were actually in cahoots all along. Nitokh and Ballas were staging the whole rebellion thing. Instead of giving us destruction codes, they gave us activation codes.

[jade berry]

I also kinda think the tau dax weapon skins should either be earnable in game, or exist as weapons on their own

[reef compass]

He fooled Margulis. Attack on him was staged to cause her to join him on pyring the Anarchists

[midnight crow]

do u think i have to mabye use madurai lenses or is the charge rate id just what it is

[tropic venture]

craftable skin BPs dropped in Perita

[tropic venture]

all lenses give the same charge rate

[midnight crow]

but can i stack them?

[jade berry]

I dont have time to find the meme, pretend this is me dropping that "real shit?" Reaction meme

[midnight crow]

like multiple weapons ///

[undone lodge]

proto I mean, keep forgetting to use a different shorthand

[static nimbus]

Either that or Margulis was in on the plan as long as the Tenno were spared the axe. She seems pretty devoted to Ballas.

[lavish kite]

They said there are romance options in the new update… I’ve been caressing this space B-hole for a hour.
Does that mean we go together now?

[real niche]

The blooms died because we were tricked. They weren't gonna die if we did nothing but the egg, either because Margulis was forced by Ballas or it was tampered by him, caused them to die.

[jade berry]

Theres still noticeable bits for the peen, but yeah this update has been really funny for me

[tropic venture]

I'm saying I wish they were

[jade berry]

:(

[static nimbus]

It was a catch-22. If we didn't attack the egg, Galastra would have done the same thing. They sent us claiming that it was to stop them, but we actually stomped out the rebellion for them and then went ahead and started the terraforming for the Orokin.

[reef compass]

I dont believe at all Margulis was in it. She was the one in charge of the Academy apparently.

[static nimbus]

Then the Sentients blamed the Orokin and attacked them, and the Orokin claimed they were innocent and declared the treaty null and void because the Sentients attacked them.

[real niche]

She was in on it in some regard because she knew the egg was going to kill the flowers. Willingly? Who knows

[jade berry]

We also got the little flash of her telling daklo to give information straight to sam because she doesnt trust the orokin

[reef compass]

This too

[static nimbus]

And both sides hated us because the Orokin said we were rogue agents and the Sentients thought we did this on behalf of the Orokin.

[midnight crow]

cant companions like dogs n cats n fox n the uhh robo guys use lenses?

[jade berry]

Sam told that info to ballas though, so ballas knew to change the codes

[static nimbus]

Who's Sam? Itzam?

[jade berry]

Yee

[tropic venture]

It Zam

[dire slate]

There's also the Margulis-Lotus pipeline. So I'm assuming Margulis will be executed once Tenno is brought to Lua... Where does Lotus enter after this?

[static nimbus]

The Lotus enters well after the Old War restarts, towards the tail end. She was the last ditch effort of the Sentients to kill the Tenno.

[jade berry]

Probably around the night of the naga drums

[tropic venture]

Natah was born later on after Hunhow learnt of the Reservoir

[reef compass]

Ballas was in cahoots too with the Sentients in the war, so maybe Erra suggested her to become that model

[tropic venture]

It's funny that Natah is younger than Ordis, Teshin and the Operator

[stray latch]

what was "I can't believe we used to be at war" that the operator said when talking to Adis? I thought the old war was after the old peace??? Also how did the orokin just suddenly got into a peace treaty with the sentients? I felt like I missed something but I am not sure

[tropic venture]

The Old War was a long time-period of recurring conflicts

[jade berry]

Old peace was a temporary intermission between the same war

[static nimbus]

You think there was a peace treaty without a war preceding it?

[tropic venture]

the peace treaty is during it

[tame tartan]

The Older War

[valid mural]

It was definitely a successful attempt… Until Ballas happened

[static nimbus]

The Old Peace was an intermission where it seemed like the Orokin were agreeing to leave Tau to the Sentients and exist as allied nations.

[dire slate]

So, The Old Peace is a ceasefire period.

[tame tartan]

I was under the impression that the seven wanted the war

[tropic venture]

yes, they refer to it as such several times

[jade berry]

Ceasefire in seek of a longstanding peace treaty

[static nimbus]

And who knows? Maybe some of them were even onboard with it, but we know for a fact that Nitokh and Ballas weren't. Nitokh openly, Ballas secretly.

[tropic venture]

The Seven's votes were split, Ballas was the last remaining one yet to vote

[tame tartan]

True

[tropic venture]

so 3 were for, 3 were against

[dire slate]

Oh, btw, the owl cephalon... what happens if you don't destroy it?

[static nimbus]

"I invoke the Deadlock Protocol"

[jade berry]

Just runs off

[static nimbus]

He dips. Will probably be relevant later.

[tropic venture]

Well that's Corpus

[tame tartan]

It makes me think though, if we let Ballas die I wonder how it would've played out. Personally I think it would've been inevitable with weird splinter factions wanting the war

[plush swan]

Is it just me, or does the graduation scene with Operator and Adis feel like a marriage?

[static nimbus]

If we let Ballas die it would have been war regardless, like Galastra said.

[reef compass]

The chariot mentions it can perform "emergency Continuity" and "you are the only Yuvan candidate" around so Ballas wouldn't have died

[static nimbus]

It's like your president being assassinated while on a peace mission in an allied country.

[tame tartan]

Tenno and sentient are paired up as a peace thing.

[tropic venture]

the cart getting to low health makes it tell you it is authorized to perform "emergency continuity to preserve Orokin lives"

[tame tartan]

Ah

[jade berry]

Okay but also lowkey hate that it was ballas again because i wanted it to be the baddie from the statue

[static nimbus]

I mean, it's authorised. Would it have been able to catch and restrain a Tenno for long enough to do so? Doubtful, otherwise it would've been able to defend itself better than we could.

[tropic venture]

I wanted Karrish to float out like Vladimir Harkonnen

[scarlet wren]

I was ready to whip out my Tenno void glock I saw that long arm prick

[jade berry]

Brb googling something

[static nimbus]

Plus, we know for a fact that the Tenno can reject the Continuity if they have the force of will.

[jade berry]

Okay yeah, thats funny

[static nimbus]

Tuvul?

[tropic venture]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-arrakis-dune-part-1-harkonnen-atreides-gif-14949351589185319331

[plush swan]

Marriage alliances were sometimes used to seal peace agreements, IRL

[tame tartan]

I wonder though since this was a demonstration of one pissed off tenno how an army of pissed of tenno would go on the night of Naga drums

[dire slate]

Roathe was mentioned in The Old Peace right? What's his role in all of this?

[reef compass]

Tbf its Ballas and the web event implies Tau has some weird stuff that can seal a Tenno in their Warframe

[static nimbus]

Though this felt more like a shield-brothers thing.

[jade berry]

An agent of the female executor who was controlling the rebellion

[tropic venture]

He's the so-called lackey of the Executor secretly leading this rebellion

[plush swan]

Roathe was one of the Anarch leaders.

I think Executor Nitokh was on top, but he was basically a general

[molten gyro]

He was yeah, apparently Galastra's 'lackey' (edit: wait no Nitokh's lackey and then Galastra was just a pawn, I think, as others said)

[tame tartan]

I'm aware of that, but I meant more of a symbolic thing. Like raising kids to come together in hopes of bringing about peace in the future

[static nimbus]

If they sealed a Tenno in the Warframe, then they couldn't do continuity regardless. Plus we have confirmation from an independent source (the spirits of the Tenno) that they successfully destroyed it. Besides, Ballas has never shown he could control the Tenno. At best, he can only control Warframes, and that too Umbra is the only one he can control without (presumably) using an Ascaris.

[tropic venture]

Galastra was below Roathe, Roathe was below the female Executor whose name we only recently learned so I forgot

[plush swan]

Nitokh

[molten gyro]

Nitokh?

[static nimbus]

Yeah, he was Nitokh's general and also some kind of lover.

[undone lodge]

Yeah it’s definitely meant to give those vibes but as a like, platonic thing

I think theres a name for this actually, hold on

[tropic venture]

blood brothers

[jade berry]

Orokin baddie statue lady 🥺🥺

[static nimbus]

Say what you will, but if Nitokh asked me to restart the Old War, I would.

No trickery required.

[reef compass]

They destroyed but looted the corpses apparently for... research.

Then there is the Ascaris. And the Worm Queen almost succeeded being an old croney so Ballas being stronger and infinitely more willful, idk.

[static nimbus]

The Worm Queen only succeeded because we forgot our own powers, remember?

[undone lodge]

Blood brothers generally don’t get their graduation vows read to them at the altar

[static nimbus]

During the Old Peace, we are a pre-Second Dream fully realised Tenno.

[tropic venture]

I am not mentally well now I'm imagining Nitokh x Roathe master x servant petplay

[static nimbus]

I mean, we have Dagath as a canonical example.

[tropic venture]

Roathe even has the animalistic traits

[undone lodge]

“Queerplatonic”. Not quite what we got shown but, as I said, vows before an altar so close enough

[static nimbus]

Plus, Roathe was still an Orokin, so the power dynamic wouldn' have been that bad.

[tropic venture]

well he has them now but

[reef compass]

Tbf. I would still not want to go that road, it feels like an enormous can of worms specially carrying our funny Wally in the head lol

So disaster no matter what xD

[static nimbus]

Yeah, even assuming Ballas got in our head, the last thing he would hear is "VOULL NE XATA VOK, MARA LOHK" before his synapses are vaporised by a zip bomb of Murmur breakdance videos.

[undone lodge]

Simping for a statue is crazy work

[jade berry]

Call me crazy then 👉👉

[compact acorn]

De can we pelase have a big sentient dog

[static nimbus]

Crazy? I was crazy once

[thick cedar]

WHERE

[static nimbus]

Also, is it just me, or does Marie look even prettier than she did during the previews?

[scarlet wren]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-doodlebob-beeg-pencil-gif-866131903403181400

[tropic venture]

The academy has statues of all the Seven

[reef compass]

The big corridor has statues for all the 7

[static nimbus]

Everything is as unreal as everything else.

[jade berry]

Also I dont mean to criticize, but the longer the story goes, the more orokin it turns out we missed in our kill streak and man we are bad at our jobs

[scarlet wren]

Is that a real statement?

https://tenor.com/view/checkmate-chess-drake-chess-drake-meme-j-cole-gif-10298418990602007648

[static nimbus]

Noes

yesnt

[jade berry]

I feel more like I do now than I did when I got here

[static nimbus]

Mfw I need to explain Advaita Vedanta as an excuse to simp for a goth nun

[scarlet wren]

https://tenor.com/view/gumball-the-amazing-world-of-gumball-can-i-put-my-baka-mitai-gif-23338606

She got me like
💀💀💀

[jade berry]

I have to date and dump all the protoframes for the honoria titles

[static nimbus]

-Real sentences heard at family court

[reef compass]

I am starting to think that when the Night of Naga Drums comes the only orokin there will be the 3 ones that were in favor of peace and were the ones that weren't * so it will be more deflating than anything.

Maybe even have to control Hildryn and defend Ballas to avoid some paradox or something

[static nimbus]

I mean, we only missed 3 confirmed ones, no?

[cerulean kiln]

Court?
Laws?
Not in my War game

[static nimbus]

Well, besides the Entrati.

[scarlet wren]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-of-egypt-sacrifices-must-be-made-pharaoh-seti-i-pharaoh-gif-16912373

[hybrid comet]

How come I cant enter the room with the refractory in it because there is an invisible wall in front of the door

[undone lodge]

I mean, less than 10 out of god knows how many is a pretty good rate, I think

[jade berry]

Entrati family, roathe, ballas, worm twins

[tropic venture]

They just forgot to remove it from the non-quest Sanctum lol

[static nimbus]

The Entrati were literally inside the void, Roathe had been kidnapped to a different timeline, Ballas canonically was attacked and had a lucky escape.

[vale ledge]

Is Valdur a more intelligent Grineer? I felt like Old Peace glossed over a lot of stuff, pacing was weird for me

[fair depot]

To be fair, did we miss the entrati family? They're not going great

[tropic venture]

the actual way to access the Refractory in-game is via Navigation

[static nimbus]

And Nihil didn't survive. He technically killed himself to escape us.

[stray latch]

can someone explain at which point was the treaty created? Cuz I thought in the old war the sentients were winning at first, then orokin threw infested bomb everywhere to push sentients back, and later they made warframe to destroy the sentients? Like when did they had the peace

[undone lodge]

Middle of Old War

[tropic venture]

Prime Grineer were smart, modern Grineer have gone through millenia of Clone Rot

[hybrid comet]

Aw man, you should get to do both

[scarlet wren]

This was before the genetic clone rot so most certainly

[undone lodge]

Well, “middle”

[static nimbus]

The Old Peace happened sometime after the introduction of Warframes but before the death of Margulis.

So somewhere around the earliest phase.

[hybrid comet]

Like with entering duviri

[tropic venture]

The Old War was a long time-period of recurring conflicts. This is a short truce during that

[vale ledge]

So Ballas sabotaged it then? What for

[reef compass]

Grineer aren't uh, not smart either. Sometimes.

[scarlet wren]

Because he’s a demon. That’s it.

[undone lodge]

They didn’t “throw infested bombs everywhere”, they had infested bombs in important areas to deny the Sentients, like Deimos, and drove them off with warframes and simple or protected weaponry that they couldn’t takeover or interfere with

[static nimbus]

The Old Peace probably happened in the first place because of Warframes. We were the first really effective weapons the Orokin threw at them, so they were forced to come to the table.

[reef compass]

Valdur gave me some weird Kahl vibes btw, same batch...?

[scarlet wren]

Or great great great great grandfather

[jade berry]

He wanted Tau 🤷‍♂️, it was still his goal even in the new war

[scarlet wren]

Destroying all sides so that no one remained but him

[tropic venture]

Kahl is millenia later. The original Combat Grineer genome was lost during the Old War. That's why Clone Rot exists

[stray latch]

but didnt they created warframes specifically to kill sentients? So why does the tenno help the sentients? Did they made the treaty right after the warframes are made and just decided not to use it?

[vale ledge]

So Old Peace is just a primer to introduce us to the Tau system, which will be vastly different when we visit it in 2026? And there’s sentients that can heal organically (rare)

[tropic venture]

Correct

[scarlet wren]

Si

[plush swan]

I think this is attributing their difficulty with "normal" speech to intelligence, rather than their bodies or their upbringing

[static nimbus]

The Tenno are working with the sentients because the Tenno work for the Orokin and the Orokin had called a ceasefire.

[undone lodge]

They made the frames, fought, and then eventually made the treaty

[static nimbus]

At this point, the Tenno were loyal Orokin soldiers.

[jade berry]

Ballas, as far as I can tell, is the peak of the orokin mentality. But the orokin 7 are likely to eventually embody the 7 deadly sins

[vale ledge]

Of the 7 executors, iirc in the current time period 4 are dead, 3 are unknown in terms of status….

Maybe we’ll get to whack em down the line

[static nimbus]

They probably embody all of them.

[reef compass]

Ballas being Pride clearly lol

[tropic venture]

Karrish gluttony, Tuvul maybe greed

[static nimbus]

4? We know Ballas is dead and we know Tuvul is dead. Who else?

[echo basalt]

Actually dude self admitted lust

[vale ledge]

If there’s 7 executors, are there 7 emperors

[reef compass]

There is that angle too lol

[tropic venture]

or Ballas could be envy

[vale ledge]

I meaaaan in fairness have you SEEN margulis

[static nimbus]

Yes, an Orokin Executor. A man famed for having great introspective ability.

[undone lodge]

So prideful he can’t see his flaws enough to self-judge accurately, obv

[echo basalt]

Nitohk is probably wrath

[static nimbus]

She's not seeing much of anything.

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas admitted his sin was Lust

[echo basalt]

No like seriously dude said his sin was lust

[plush swan]

I think they're more likely to be connected to the "Seven Principles" that have been mentioned

[static nimbus]

He said it, yes. But him saying it doesn't mean it's accurate.

[toxic basin]

gameplay question:
how do you get "The Exorcist" honoria? i've been in the descendia more than 21 times but there's still no progress

[vale ledge]

ALSO we know the names of the 7 executors as listed in the Old Peace. But we know Nihil is an Executor as well, so how does that pan out?

Is he Nitokhs replacement?

[static nimbus]

Ballas' behaviour is closely linked to excessive arrogance throughout his story.

[undone lodge]

This man is literally the most prideful person in the entire franchise

[static nimbus]

You need to do 21 cycles, probably.

[echo basalt]

Sounds logical given the crazy homicidal movin that she be doin

[vale ledge]

I think you need to do it as wisp or harrow, maybe Uriel

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas literally betrayed the Orokin and plotted to kill them because of a woman

[static nimbus]

Nihil probably became an Executor after this, because he was an Executor during the fall.

[plush swan]

How do you see progress?

[civic kestrel]

Does someone know how the marudai bow charges? From what I understand it randomly charges when I pick up energy?

[toxic basin]

i was counting manually lol

[vale ledge]

Don’t think you can, also honorias are bugged atm

[static nimbus]

All taurons recharge via kills, convergence orbs, and focus lenses.

[undone lodge]

This is the man who straight up, deadass says something along the lines of “nobody could ever understand me, I was just beyond them”. He allowed his lover to be executed (something that would need his agreement), just because she wouldn’t renounce her crime.

[static nimbus]

Each focus lens you have on your gear gives you +10% charge rate, kills from any source give you a little charge, and picking up a convergence orb gives you a good amount of charge at once.

[static nimbus]

Yeah, like I said, his sin was definitely pride, not lust.

[cerulean kiln]

Then put her memories in a Sentient because he wanted a Margulis he could control

[undone lodge]

He then gets a victim complex over this and betrays his people because said lover was killed, despite him being the one to let them

[static nimbus]

In his perspective, the Orokin made him do it, so he hates them.

Remember, he really believes he loves Margulis.

[undone lodge]

He might be lustful, but his pride literally trumps his lust enough to let the target of his lust die

[static nimbus]

He hates the Orokin for making him choose himself over her.

[scarlet wren]

Pride is the root of all sin so other sins can and have spawn from it like lust so.

[echo basalt]

And yet according to roathe somehow nitohk is worse then ballas

[static nimbus]

Yeah, every Executor probably embodies every single sin. After all, Tuvul's Zariman project was nothing more than obscene vanity.

[scarlet wren]

That’s saying something

[static nimbus]

He is anything but an unbiased narrator. Plus, Nitokh is his boss and ex. That dynamic is messy.

Though, tbf he could be right. We know nothing of Nitokh.

[scarlet wren]

Idk who the heck Nitokh is or looks like lol

[undone lodge]

He also got jumped and locked in a basement by Albrecht at some point and had a teensy bit of amnesia so

[jade berry]

Hot statue lady in the academy

[undone lodge]

One of the executors, literally just a statue

[static nimbus]

Imagine being jumped by Albrecht of all people.

[scarlet wren]

I should’ve been paying more attention 💀

[undone lodge]

Y’all didn’t see that typo

[static nimbus]

That's like Albert Einstein mugging you in an alley.

[jade berry]

👁👄👁

[echo basalt]

Until roathe explains in his kimchat dialouge

Lol

[static nimbus]

And assuming he's being fair and remembering everything correctly.

[jade berry]

Yeah, im excited for more lore drops in the kim chats

[echo basalt]

We got fathers name, it's petros

[jade berry]

So far hes just been really upset that we call the indifference a god and thinks its just conceptual embodiment from albrecht

[echo basalt]

Also roathe knows grandmother's og name of dagath

And that she gave it away

[scarlet wren]

Wow

The lore runs deep deep chat

[solid otter]

Yeah

[echo basalt]

Roathe lore dumper extraordinaire

[solid otter]

Roathe seemed to know of the entrati family way before he actually got stuck in their basement

[echo basalt]

Yep

Dude even knew fathers full name

[scarlet wren]

I still aint trusting bro

[echo basalt]

He hates the 7

[hoary iris]

This lore is so confusing 😭 gave up on understanding it way long ago

[echo basalt]

So he's fine in my book

Could be worse

Could be kh

[scarlet wren]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-attention-gif-20524443

Hold up

[remote raft]

Ok this is a funny one

[echo basalt]

Like straight up

Dude says that's the one part of the empire that actively had to go

[scarlet wren]

I mean blud is speaking fax no printer

[static nimbus]

Yapmeister

[static nimbus]

I mean everyone knew the Entrati family. They were celebrities for better and for worse.

I really like what Roathe's introduction can do though. We can get first hand accounts of what the Orokin Empire looked like.

Even the Entrati were very isolated. Roathe was directly in the middle of Orokin high society.

[static nimbus]

They should add new resources called micro spores, centi spores, deci spores, so on.

[dire slate]

immortal mine yay

[woeful jacinth]

Mine of the ground, what is your wisdom?

[sullen plinth]

Chat, do they make quests replayable at some point after launch, I didnt really change my operator and I'd rather see the cutscenes with mine but currently its not replayable

[wild wind]

takes a month or two

Usually comes as part of the "echoes" update, which adds QoL and finishing touches

[dire slate]

mind you this is the 2nd order. we had to wait 8 minutes because this thing couldn't be disabled nor destroyed.

[wild wind]

oh there's sometimes other mines around

[rare orbit]

Clan honoria would be pretty cool, probably best to just tie it to the hierarchy and NOT let people make custom ones. Just using the original hierarchy titles “warlord (name) of (clan)”

[wild wind]

but yeah that's a little buggy, means someone tried to hack it

[dire slate]

idk if it's because it's the last one or something but yeah nothing else spawned and we were going on circles in the area.

[wild wind]

ugh frustrating

[woeful jacinth]

The dropship order has bugged twice for me

[frigid lotus]

Guys, I just finished The Old Peace, what new gamemode should I start by?

[wild wind]

depends, do you want Uriel's parts or the focus weapons?

[frigid lotus]

The Vinquibus more than anything

[tropic venture]

Descendia's rewards are weekly so could do that

[wild wind]

Trick question, doesn't matter: you have to do Perita for both

oh but yes, run Descendia to get it out of the way

[frigid lotus]

Ok thx guys

[grand onyx]

Descendia is nice, got myself a amp arcane. Didn't have to max out the zariman for that.

[delicate lagoon]

Ideal to do Descendia once per week and then focus everything in the rebellion to grind for parts?

[echo basalt]

You forgot steel path

So it's twice a week

[tropic venture]

yeah regular and SP Descendia are separate

[grand onyx]

And they're fairly simple tbh.

[delicate lagoon]

That one is assuming Steel Path Descendia. But is it really worth to do regular Descendia?

[grand onyx]

I'd say yeah, decent mix of arcanes and other stuff.

[tropic venture]

yes, since you only get one of each per week anyways so

they're quick and limited

no reason not to do both unless you're just really tight on time

[delicate lagoon]

Hmm... I'll take your advice then

[waxen sphinx]

What are Vanguard relics?

[grand onyx]

You can run it again (from either checkpoint) just for the currency for Uriel or the other parts.

[tropic venture]

Tied to the special upcoming Vanguard Resurgence

[lean kettle]

i wish there was a kill ballas simulator because i just realized that he named archon amar after the bloom guardian to taunt us

I HATE HIM SO MUCH MORE NOW

[delicate lagoon]

What's the either checkpoint? Like go to SP lvl 14 of Descendia?

[waxen sphinx]

I was about to wonder if theyre a rare drop when fighting the vanguard in the perita gamemode

[jade berry]

I have more bad news

[lean kettle]

what

[waxen sphinx]

I dont think he JUST named it after him...

[tropic venture]

That's not how it works. The Archons are the corpses of the four Sentient Beasts grafted onto dead Warframes. Also it was Erra who made the Archons, not Ballas

[woeful arrow]

OK, I have a question about somachords: Where do I look for the missing Old Peace Somachord?

Here is the list of what I have: (Spoilered the image)

[grand onyx]

The Archons are based off of actual Tau beasts though.

[tropic venture]

patch notes has full list of the new somachords

[tropic venture]

The Sentient Beasts were based on old earth's animals. The Archons are literally the corpses of the four Sentient Beasts put onto Warframes (or a Sentient in Pazuul's case)

[wild wind]

specific Tau beasts, natch. The actual Amar was broken up into shards to make the Archon Amar

[tropic venture]

it's like if we put Natah's actual body onto a Warframe

[novel quartz]

It's a crime that Uriels theme/the final mission music isn't on Spotify

Or did I miss it?

[lean kettle]

lowkey considering replaying the new war to watch him die again

[wild wind]

you did, it's Roses of the Abyss

i might have the specific name wrong

[gusty hull]

Has the Perita Rebellion’s air raid squad mission been bugged for everyone?

[delicate lagoon]

So basically the real Amar that we see in The Old Peace is dead by the time of The New War? And the one we kill for shards is basically completely someone else?

[plush swan]

I've had it sometimes

[novel quartz]

I did! Thank you, you have it right. Yay space carnage with a W sound track

[lean kettle]

here's the thing.

retcons.

[jade berry]

Does it stop spawning part way through? I had that happen for me

[gusty hull]

Every time I get that objective, the last squad doesn’t spawn and the music stops yeah

[tropic venture]

We have known the Sentient Beasts since The New War and Veilbreaker released

there is no retcon

nothing in the lore or our understanding of it has changed now that we've seen Amar as he was originally

[plush swan]

Is anyone else having what feels like a lot of multiplayer issues lately?

• Stuck indefinitely on looking for a squad
• Host migrations
• Host migrations that take forever and end solo

[jade berry]

Its partial retcons, but they do map out updates sometimes years in advance. Heart of deimos that released in 2019 was initially written as a post new war content update. Hell, post duviri iirc

[jade berry]

I couldnt even join squads or be invited/invite other players prior to the hotfix yesterday, a youtuber streaming yesterday and I spent like 20 minutes trying to squad up so I could trade him a mod

[plush swan]

In Archon Hunts, the Natargulotus talks about Amar as someone she knew, who's mad and feels betrayed by Tenno and Sentients alike, so I think that's the same Amar.

The same Amar from Operator's wedding.

[grand onyx]

"Wedding"

I see someone else saw that 'graduation day' and had the same thought haha.

[jade berry]

Cant believe the update that made us school shooters also made us child brides

[grand onyx]

Also.

I'm gunna have to say it here.

[tropic venture]

"The Mother and the Father shaped the creatures. The Owl. The Snake. The Wolf. And the Ram, who ruled them all. It was glorious, and the creatures were content. The Ram smiled among new creations' blue blades."

"On Tau, the Wolf roamed without prey. He was created in the image of ancient records from old Earth, a naive tribute to ecosystems long extinct. Those savage jaws were never meant to bite."

"On Tau, the Owl was solitary. He seemed to think himself above us and recognized the Ram alone as an equal. To be mutilated like this, turned into a weapon, was humiliating for him."

"Nira. Could she somehow be responsible for what Erra has become? A repayment for what he did to her? The Serpent is old, Tenno, and full of secrets."

[grand onyx]

About Itzam.

Hear me out

[tropic venture]

All of these are from Break Narmer and Archon Hunts

[real star]

itzam getting shot down was so obvious right? did it actually surprise anyone?

[heavy lark]

where do i find the new proyoframes? Just beat old peace

[tropic venture]

Portal in the Sanctum

[heavy lark]

ty

[grand onyx]

Nope, and I knew it would be right in the middle of his speech.

I was still angry though.

[tropic venture]

you also have a new message in the KIM system

[jade berry]

Might need the new kimchat which may require a reload

[plush swan]

I dislike the "school shooter" meme here, because it feels very different from what happened.

It was not intended to be a mass shooting, it was intended to be the murder of one person in particular, who happened to be there but was neither a teacher nor a student.

And by the time we got there, that guy's soldiers were shooting up the school.

[jade berry]

If we didnt literally tell someone not to come to school tomorrow I wouldnt have clocked it

[grand onyx]

Like congrats, you abused and gaslit a bunch of child soldiers and suddenly they turn on you.

GEE I WONDER WHY?

[plush swan]

Okay, I guess that's slightly school-shooter vibes

[jade berry]

I heard that line and giggled because it felt like such a school shooter line, and then for us to go and shoot up the academy sent me over the edge

[real star]

as if we didnt have enough reason to hate ballas

also the uriel segment was so damn cool

[wild wind]

It's like the Warframes to their original humans. There's a memory there of being that original (Beast or human) but it's faint, and they mostly remember what they'd lost

[wild wind]

(also it's apparently a quote from Chains of Harrow)

(which is delicious)

[delicate lagoon]

||Rap tap tap||

[tropic venture]

Yep, Wally-possessed Rell said it to us

"You'll let me in, little piggy"

[plush swan]

The combination of that and the wedding makes me think of Kill Bill

[tropic venture]

Kill Bill(as)

[round pawn]

I really dont think it was a wedding

[wild wind]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-bill-killbill-gif-18750768

[dire slate]

how to equip the tektolyst things

[wild wind]

the artefacts or the arcanes

[tropic venture]

The Artifacts are auto-equipped when you buy them

[wild wind]

because the artefact equips automatically

[round pawn]

It felt like a mentor honoring his two pupils for becoming full fledged warriors in a new age of cooperation

[wild wind]

the arcanes go on the artefact

counterpoint basically everyone at DE has an AO3 account, they know what they did

[tardy acorn]

does anyone know how to increase your chemistry with the devils triad? do i just keep doing descendia?

[tropic venture]

daily chats and Descendia I believe yeah

[dire slate]

and where do i modify the artefact?

[wild wind]

Descendia doesn't increase I think??

[wild wind]

arsenal when focus school is equipped

apparently descendia punts Roathe onto a different conversational path

which is fasinating

[tropic venture]

Operator Arsenal (make sure you have the correct focus school active)

[dire slate]

this is gonna be a brutal grind for everything, isn't it...

[round pawn]

Tauron mats seem to be the worst

[plush swan]

Tektolyst Artifacts are the biggest grind in the update

I had every White and Blue mod, and every Arcane (Rank 1) on the first day

Red mods are a pain and I think I'm missing something about how to get them

[wild wind]

they're just mission rewards

[tropic venture]

Codex tells you

[plush swan]

Despite being nominally Uncommon (2-dots), Red mods seem the hardest to get

[wild wind]

No secret, they simply straight up harder to get than the supposed rares

because the rares have more than one source

[round pawn]

Uriel parts are insanely easy to get and the mats are obtained pretty quick while in rebellion

[wild wind]

having said that I still have 3 of 5 lol

[waxen sphinx]

Is this a bug or are there meant to be 2 sagek prime barrel blueprints lol

[wild wind]

It's a bug but one is much cheaper

so take advantage while you can

[knotty hull]

I joined an already ongoing lobby for my tenth time beating Roathe
and it skipped the pre-fight dialogue
does anyone know what it was here ?

[tropic venture]

did you not hear it the previous nine times?

[wild wind]

his dialogue changes every run

Up to 20 different voice lines for doing it in a week or something

[stray latch]

is the suit we see the operator wearing in the quest the aliban prime access one?

[wild wind]

he gets progressively more exhausted

[tropic venture]

Tauron Prime suit, yes

[wild wind]

actually maybe not a week, might be reset?

[plush swan]

Roathe says something like, "oh, I'm the final boss! I should have expected that that. I am my own worst enemy.", except in very different words

[plush swan]

There are two sources of Red mods:

1. ultra-rare drop
2. Marie (daily rotation)

[knotty hull]

aight thx
doesn't sound like too much of a crazy lore drop to miss then lol

[zealous cypress]

Yo what should for the taurine strikes

[round pawn]

Its interesting roathe has an archon in his brain

Even more interesting that its Nira, the serpent shaped one, in the devil's head

[wild wind]

It's a manifestation of something else, rather than the archon specifically

I think we're getting Nira in place of one of the other potential "Warframe" bosses, like Kullervo and the Commandeered Primes

that should rotate next week

[tropic venture]

yeah the Descendia floors are symbolic

[round pawn]

Imagine it rotates to lavos 🐍

[plush swan]

Do you mean Mods?

• Talsek-An: PSF for Operator
• Hayan-Dabor: Multishot
• Vikla-Safor: RoF
• Ubri-Kaneph: Base damage
• Omn-Evi: +CC, and maybe +CD

Maybe replace RoF with "Vik-Anam" (+Amp Energy) to be a Zenurik mod for +CD, but I think that's questionable

[wild wind]

I use the box breaker unairu one

It's just so nice to have a permanent box break ability

[humble patrol]

excuse me?

[plush swan]

I've been using that too, because I don't have Omn-Evi

[wild wind]

lol

[woeful jacinth]

I wonder if this is affected by damage multipliers

[wild wind]

all the protos are super repressed, it's great

[plush swan]

"Repressed"?

[wild wind]

They let their freak flag fly as soon as you start dating, yes

[wild wind]

no, tauron strikes are designed to be boss killers

[plush swan]

I don't think Lettie sounded "repressed" when she said "it's not your feelings I want to step on", and I haven't even dated any of them

[zealous cypress]

Nah i meant focus weapons

[zealous cypress]

I have most of them alr just missing one

[plush swan]

Oh.

What school do you use when you're not doing Perita Rebellion?

I mostly used Madurai, so I go that one

[delicate lagoon]

Is Madurai still the go-to school for Operator combat, even after the tauron strikes and stuff?

Or have other schools have become viable in dealing damage in general SP?

[plush swan]

Madurai without Tauron Strikes trivializes the bosses in the TOP quest, BTW.

It felt like the weapons on Excal were doing no damage, so I popped out and hit "1" and started blasting with my Amp and they all died in like a second.

[woeful jacinth]

Naramon if im using a melee frame, madurai or unairu for general use, vazarin for ETA and EDA

[plush swan]

Zenurik seems like the best Focus school for Perita, because there's so much you can do easily with +100-200% Ability Strength

[delicate lagoon]

Which tauron strike would be best?

[marble karma]

How u get the new pleasure and pain title? :p

[zealous cypress]

Madurai as well but in any event I chose madurai

[wild wind]

date Lettie

[marble karma]

Ty

[plush swan]

Oh, that's interesting: the skybox outside the Sanctum has changed for me.

It used to be the one where the wall is the sky, but now it's got Wally standing above the Sanctum looking out on the tech-y cavern.

[humble patrol]

theres no rep this patch right? im not missing anything

[plush swan]

No syndicate grind? Correct.

[tropic venture]

no new Standing

[zealous cypress]

Also where can I grind the most of my focus

[plush swan]

Lenses + Void Cascade

[zealous cypress]

Aight gotchu ima wait for a omni

[wild wind]

Duviri Circuit

[robust swallow]

question, when i model my gemini skin and use an emote it reverts to default frame skin, should this happen?

[wild wind]

especially if you still need incarnons

[robust swallow]

how do i model both so they both stay?

Harrow gemini if that helps

[marble karma]

I don't understand :p maybe a vid would help

[robust swallow]

i uh, don't have the screen record programs, mind if we jump into voice chat?

[pale violet]

Yo check on your Roathe chat he is sending me vm after vm

[marble karma]

can't, try explaining it a bit better :P

If u use ur Gemini emote ur protoframe turns into a normal frame?

[robust swallow]

it reverts into regular unstyled harrow

no colours, no alt helmet

[marble karma]

Oh, do u have a costum harrow (prime skin) in ur slots or no?

[robust swallow]

the configs?

[marble karma]

Yes

[pale violet]

Executor Nitokh was an intreseting woman....

[robust swallow]

oh, no, does it pull precisely B config or at random?

[marble karma]

Not sure, try putting something on B

[robust swallow]

yeah, it pulls the B, thanks, think i figured it out

[marble karma]

Glad i could help

[pliant saffron]

Imma guess her sin is greed, of the seven executors

[frail elbow]

anyone have footage of the attacking Daklo option in the old peace quest

lwk havent seen anyone pick it yet

[pliant saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV1l4ynDGfk

[hoary iris]

how do i get the morphica for the vinquibus? the descendia mode doesnt seem to have people in it

[reef compass]

uh, why suddenly I got ||two voice mails|| from Roathe?

did they update something and got through cracks?

one is about ||Executor Nitohk|| and another about ||the first successful travel to Tau, sorta|| ?

[pliant saffron]

If you skipped and are under mr10 you will need to make a squad before going in

[frozen wave]

How do I stop Roathe's burst attack in 8th+ round of the boss fight? He's wiping the party and I can't figure out how to to stop it

[reef compass]

you need to grab the fire symbols that are tithed to him

parkour through them

[frozen wave]

Dang, almost had it, I saw someone try to void sling and thought it might be like Void Angel

[reef compass]

...not the same keroppi from PSO2 I suppose?¿ XD

[frozen wave]

Haha no, just like the Sanrio char

[floral walrus]

I've watched a few different people run the quest, does anyone know why people are getting different voice lines at the very end? ||Lotus either says something like "you were used just as she was" or "now we can begin to heal". Is it something to do with the alignments or do we not know?||

[reef compass]

ah aight i was like "oh finally we got im!" x3

[hoary iris]

nah i have the mission complete and all. Im mr 16 (even have uriel) but idk im not seeing many folk

[reef compass]

i didnt know there were even different ones, most likely alignment I guess...?

[iron heart]

So there's a Vessel on Tau. Found it in a cave when I was looking for buff rocks.

[half light]

found this hidden behind a waterfall (of course) any clue what it is ? i couldn't interact with it, only scan it

[floral walrus]

I think thats a type of locker? can either be locked or unlocked... not sure though

[pliant saffron]

Maybe day 2 slump?

[livid portal]

Didn't even realise that was a vessel

[remote raft]

Also do you need to do something special to wall run

[hoary iris]

possible

[half light]

sure it's a vessel and not a hunhullus ?

[livid portal]

Wall run got postponed

[half light]

it wasn't implemented yet

[remote raft]

Ahhhh dang

[rain otter]

Is that not a hunlus?

[pliant saffron]

Still waiting on the voruna 4th walk cycle too

[wild wind]

it's the rare cache, there are openable ones around

[jade berry]

Is that a vessel or a hunhullus?

[iron heart]

I guess it's probably a hunhullus yeah

[fierce summit]

That's a dead Hunhullus, not a vessel

Notice the neck cavity and the "arm" things from its back

[livid portal]

What yall think will be shown at the game awards for warframe

[jade berry]

Uriel prime

[half light]

if only

[wild wind]

extended Old Peace trailer and some kind of multimedia project

[fervent light]

That's Amar??? The Archon Amar???

[wild wind]

PUPPY

I have an idea, let's not bring Erra back

[frail elbow]

ty

[livid portal]

Damm

[wild wind]

anyone who does that to a puppy deserves bad things happening to the--

Wait

my god

https://tenor.com/view/fullmetal-alchemist-gif-23104096

A...dis...

[livid portal]

Am I not remembering something

[fervent light]

more like the other way around, but i get what you mean

[wild wind]

Amar

Archon Amar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kljPHUI5xwM

[marble karma]

I spilled my drink at this

[fervent light]

screw that owl head Boreal tho, i still don't like his boss fight

and on top of that, he looks creepy af

[wild wind]

Erra made that puppy into this

[livid portal]

Amar better have died before he done that

[solid otter]

Shit you not i saw a loid version

[wild wind]

hahahaha

[solid otter]

It was horrifying

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY

We can now pet kalymos!

We get an honoria from it

[gritty dune]

Guys, how to charge naramon on normal missions (so not the new game modes)?

[jade berry]

Cant believe they left the kinepage at the sanctum without lotus

[fervent light]

i'd really like to see prime Natah tho. not the "lotus kneeling inside sentient body" Natah, but the real pure sentient Natah

[livid portal]

I'll be back

[late oasis]

steel path descendia keeps softlocking for me

[fervent light]

i remembered Natah saying that the wolf and the owl trained her back in Tau.

[jade berry]

I can see the dark refractory in the sanctum, but it wont let me in

[shadow forum]

How

[shadow forum]

Did you choose drifter

[late oasis]

cannot descend at all

[fervent light]

have you tried fast travelling?

[jade berry]

One sec, lemme pull the screenshot

[solid otter]

[shadow forum]

But on normal path it can

[fervent light]

oh you don't enter from there

[shadow forum]

What is that room I'm curious.

[fervent light]

enter from the orbiter

[jade berry]

Its the dark refractory room

[urban fog]

Pool room

[jade berry]

It's here, in map, lemme.in

[still swan]

I wonder how wold other look like archon nira or boreal

[jade berry]

Theres an invisible wall in the way

[languid geode]

Same. Probably will be available later ¿?

[shadow forum]

Oh that explains why tenno prepares to fight the big giant sentient,while drifter enjoys in other ways in the hex.

[jade berry]

Oh hey they did move the lotus in there

[shadow forum]

Where

In that room

[jade berry]

If you jump on the right side of the doorway you can see her barely on the oeft side of the room

[languid geode]

:0

[livid portal]

She's in there

[shadow forum]

Ok that is fine, but still.
So wally was uriel or

Tenno's voice

[round pawn]

I think i just watched a commandeered ash nuke an irradiated commandeered ember

[shadow forum]

That means someone's controlled him.

[wild wind]

that is the real natah tho

[jade berry]

I'm assuming the room is "blocked" until the operation

Probably using lotus as the vendor

[livid portal]

Someone else was the vendor were they not?

[shadow forum]

So until the tau quest will exist, than in December

[tropic venture]

Natah is a Mimic, the human shape inside current Natah is likely not part of the "original" Sentient form she once held

[cosmic prawn]

Wally was taking over the Operator during their rampage.

[livid portal]

Roathe is the vendor if I remember

[shadow forum]

Huh and did he got blocked

When I was playing I noticed words but.

[cosmic prawn]

That's one of the reasons Lotus put us to sleep, then a bit later Wally gets blocked by Rell until chains

[wild wind]

it is, actually

She was designed to take on Margulis's role

[shadow forum]

All because of that deal with wally

[jade berry]

You are correct in double checking.

Hm, I want to figure this out. The anatomica map is updated to include the room, the doors open, I can see the lotus in there, but its an invisible wall blocking me from going in

[wild wind]

She and the mimics were created to infiltrate the Tenno

[livid portal]

Another purpose it must be maybe we shall know later at the game awards

[pale violet]

When is the event starting?

[wild wind]

4:30 Pacific, 7:30 US/CA eastern

[livid portal]

I'm taking his drip though

[wild wind]

Just watch the recap, I don't think there's a WF stream reward

unless you want to Clempost, in which case go off

[livid portal]

12 something for the uk as well

[jade berry]

I just very briefly forgot im in cst and not pst anymore

[pale violet]

I mean the in-game clan event

[jade berry]

The 16th

[wild wind]

oh mb yeah next tuesday

[livid portal]

Thought you was on about the game awards for a minute 😂 😂 My bad

Wonder what other new rewards we will be getting from it

[pliant saffron]

Poe2 stuff is the game awards drop

[granite estuary]

Anyone else getting their operator/drifter fashion unseated and have to enter and exit the customization?

[hollow scaffold]

ok idk if im tripping or what but this mf looks like bbno$, that wasnt even my intention, am i going crazy? or is other people seeing this? i only saw my drifter with accessories on so i didnt notice till i went into the dark refractory

[obsidian turtle]

I don't know if this is intentional or a bug that occured but if it is intentional it is extremely funny that playing as Marie wisp skin turned random UI elements French
Image 1: With Marie skin equipped
Image 2: As Garuda

[frigid canopy]

why is there an invisible wall in front of the refractory room?

[livid portal]

Future content probably

[crude stone]

Is the old peace quest replayable?

[frigid canopy]

so every time I wanna play descendia or perita I have to leave sanctum, go to my nav and open it from there?

[livid portal]

Not yet

[jade berry]

Are you the guy who ran into it next to me

[frigid canopy]

no? I don't think so lol

[livid portal]

What frame was it?

[jade berry]

Like a white gauss i think, i wasnt paying attention to my screen

[livid portal]

Slight chance it may have been me

[brittle folio]

Is the song from old peace when we ||get Uriel|| on the soundtrack? ||”the cardinal calls”|| sounds like it but it doesn’t have the drop that I love so much :/

[pale violet]

I think it's rose from the abyss?

[tropic venture]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6v1Y8LyEovFXj5Fsxd9uzC?si=JwGF3UulSW2ldqPNjuYWIg

that may be the track just for when you're actually in the Academy

idk if the cutscene music is in the soundtrack

[jade berry]

The longer I sit here the more people who show up and try to get in as well and I think thats funny

[brittle folio]

Yeah, the drop seems to be right in the middle of those two tracks, so I guess it’s not on streaming. Sad, it was my favorite part of the quest

[pale violet]

Imagine its the entrance to the first ever warframe raid but it has to be announced at Game awards

[tropic venture]

Might be on like youtube soon

either as the full cutscene or as the extracted cutscene soundtrack

[brittle folio]

Hope so. Got chills when I first heard it ^-^

[pale violet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-scratch-like-thats-ever-gonna-happen-book-gif-16284864

[livid portal]

We can only hope

[pearl vine]

Big sentient dog :DD

[tropic venture]

Amar! Amar! :)

[pliant saffron]

Fma would like a word

[livid portal]

Would love to have him as a pet

[tropic venture]

now I wanna see the other Beasts too

[pearl vine]

Who?

[tropic venture]

especially Pazuul

[jade berry]

Full metal alchemist

[pliant saffron]

Full metal alchemist

Look up fma dog 🙂

[pearl vine]

DD:

[pearl vine]

I know

[tropic venture]

hey the Archons are not far-off from that

[pliant saffron]

We have fma at home

[pearl vine]

God, I have no idea the Lord of this game do we like the Oro Ken or do we hate them or the sentience part of the problem? Like huh

[tropic venture]

Fullavos metal alchemist

[tropic venture]

Well your first issue is limiting it to ideas like purely "good" or "bad"

[livid portal]

We do not like the orokin

[pliant saffron]

We distrust the orokin on a general level

[pearl vine]

I already didn’t like them because I intrinsically hate anything with overwhelming power

[livid portal]

Apart from their fashion

[pliant saffron]

The higher up ranks, the worse they got

[livid portal]

Yep

[pearl vine]

Especially because we have a relatively positive relationship with the Dax

And I don’t understand where proto frames even play this is like a different universe

[tropic venture]

well the Anarchs are Dax too, and the Dax were against the Tenno during the Collapse

[pearl vine]

Does 1999 Take Pl. super far before this or super far after this

[tropic venture]

1999 is just the past, no alternate stuff

Albrecht brought Helminth tech with him to the past and injected people with it

[pearl vine]

God this game is complex

And I’ve been playing for a while

[tropic venture]

a lot of the lore is from codex entries or other entries in-game

[livid portal]

Probably every one related to the orokin empire minus the ones actually on our side

[jade berry]

You havent even hit the crackpot conspiracy theories

[tropic venture]

stuff like Simaris' personal scan targets, scannable fragments in missions etc.

[pale violet]

Lotus pleaseeee I need this My adis is kinda dead

My operator has tauron I wanna help him out

[jade berry]

I miss my twink robit pal :/

[livid portal]

Yeah

[pearl vine]

Just has a personal opinion I will almost always trust an anarchist/someone who’s trying to get out from under the control of someone than the person in control

[pale violet]

The past but the past was changed by us but to avoid the change from fully affecting the timeline we put it in a loop

[pale violet]

And to also save the hex

[jade berry]

Me (anarchist) trying to get out from under the control (they wont let me smoke meth) of someone (my parents)

[pearl vine]

Yeah, honestly it seems like they have a better point

[pale violet]

So now 1999 is technically a quarantined timeline

[livid portal]

Albrecht and his lex prime 😂

[pearl vine]

With prime Bain of specifically you

[frigid canopy]

how do I rank up with the new protos? I'm not understanding how that works with no bounties or gift system

[pale violet]

At least it wasn't an incarnon

[pearl vine]

Blah

[pearl vine]

That would’ve made the scene a lot less dramatic. Instead of a single bullet, it’s just a giant wall.

[pale violet]

Chatting with them seems to be the only way

[livid portal]

Fair point

[frigid canopy]

ahh okay. Thanks

[livid portal]

All this effort for lyon. He better have good cosmetics

[pale violet]

Just realized something They're not an organized group so it fits that they're not a syndicate

Step into the cathedral and its just Lyon and Marie insulting Roathe and vice versa 😭

[pearl vine]

Oh my God, he called him “his alberec”

[pale violet]

Roathe?

[livid portal]

Oh hell nah

[pearl vine]

No loid

[jade berry]

I dont trust the two people from a time where toilet paper may not have been a thing

[livid portal]

Thought that was roathe you were on about

[pale violet]

Oh yeah loid yeah that's normal if Roathe was calling him that I would be scared

[pearl vine]

No im talking about the gay old men

[pale violet]

Your other option is a literal devil in two ways 😭

[jade berry]

Id bet they have bidets in the future

Poor roathe, no junk :/

[livid portal]

Bidet prime specifically

[pearl vine]

When you have to repel the murmur if you have molt augmented, you get to keep the abilities strength when you go back under

[pale violet]

We affected the past. We can save adis

My heart cracks a little when I think of him

[livid portal]

I'd say once someone is dead they stay dead to an extent cus its warframe

[lunar coral]

hands down, albrecht frankensteins/revives Adis.

[pearl vine]

I think the timeline got screwed up because somehow I’m fighting a common deer in caliban prime

[lunar coral]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe-bnp-captain-vor-corrupted-vor-anal-vor-gif-17500806

[livid portal]

😭

[empty violet]

I'm a bit confused. who did that to Marghulis? Did Ballas do that?
Also I thought the ship we were supposed to go to Tau was destroyed in void when we met wally? How are we at Tau again?

[jade berry]

The eyes? That was us

[pale violet]

Warframe writers loves shoving into your face that someone is dead 💔 they make you want to kill ballas more but you can't cause his already dead

[pale violet]

LMAO

[lunar coral]

tenno accident.

[livid portal]

The old peace is memories of tau which gave us forgotten power and to actually reach tau next year!

[pale violet]

Imagine if even Wally can't get rid of him

[empty violet]

but I thought we loved her. We knew that she wasn't the betrayer

[lunar coral]

Accident.

[jade berry]

We did that long ago, early into our recovery from the zariman incident

[livid portal]

All hail the new emperor

[pearl vine]

Like I think the only thing that would be even more more unfriendly would be fighting Lavos prime

[pale violet]

It was they made another, and another

[languid field]

archon shards are bugged lol

[pale violet]

How do you get this

[pearl vine]

Like… they work that way?

[lunar coral]

Is that the shards or the weekly buff cause good lord

also that might be a purely visual bug, test it and come back to us 😛

[languid field]

not permanent sadly :(

[livid portal]

Bro really is THE warframe

[empty violet]

so she was already blind before the quest happened? like before the Prerita rebellion?

[pale violet]

It was either during training or when she entered the zariman to save the tenno

[jade berry]

Yeah, i believe around the time she took the children in under her wing, before warframes were a thing in orokin society

[half light]

would it make sense for gara prime to be there during the perita rebellion ?

[languid field]

uninstalled a blue shard on oraxia to swap from +energy to +armor and evry time you scroll through the options for installing a blue shard it adds strengh as a visual bug

[pale violet]

Maybe after the war starts up again

[livid portal]

Didn't she sacrifice herself to save the tower at cetus?

[pale violet]

Yep

[empty violet]

Do we know who the seven are?

[pearl vine]

There’s a lot of weird stuff with where the frames fit in the timeline

[jade berry]

If you look at the ember prime codex entry you can see another story from this time of a woman named Kaleen who was one of the first investigators to step foot on the zariman, found the children and embraced one to comfort them, and had part of her face melted off in turn

[pearl vine]

Like revenant or protea

Or Lavos prime

[livid portal]

We know most of their names now or all of them

[pale violet]

the executors and we got their names during the memories of Tau stream

[pearl vine]

It’s not confirmed that it’s her, but it probably is

[livid portal]

And we see what some of them look like with statues

[pale violet]

Karishh, Ballas, Scarne, Tormis, Tuvul, Avatus and Nitokh these are the 7

[jade berry]

???

Its not confirmed that a woman named Kaleen is Kaleen?

[pearl vine]

Oh I meant it’s not confirmed that she is ember

Unless it was and I missed it

[livid portal]

Karishh is the baron harkonnen wannabe yes?

[pale violet]

Karish is the fat one he got eaten by Grendel Tuvul was behind the zariman project and I think got killed by voruna?

[thick jolt]

Yup

Avantus pretty sure dies in a simaris log

[jade berry]

Yeah, tuvul is the vored-una one

[pearl vine]

Oh another friend that makes zero sense for the timing Dagath

[livid portal]

Feel sorry for grendel

[pale violet]

Tormis (new info from Roathe voice message) was the first executor to on tau

[pearl vine]

Citrine

[livid portal]

I thought ballas was the only one to go on tau?

[jade berry]

Nitokh likely would have been on tau as well in some capacity

[pale violet]

Nah his the only shown in the quest but one of Roathe voice messages explain how Tormis was the first

[livid portal]

Thanks

[pale violet]

Because Tuvul was being shamed for the zariman Ten-0 incident

[jade berry]

To be fair, dude really mucked it up

[plush swan]

Use your Void powers to rewrite history to resurrect your dead husband ❤️

[empty violet]

So the end of the quest where Margulis tells us to sleep and get to lua, that was the last moment before our game officially begins right?

[pale violet]

Nitokh was already planning on killing others cause she was "bored " again new info from Roathe voice messages

Idk what triggers them they just come up

[plush swan]

There's a big gap in time, but I suspect that moment is the beginning of the amnesia.

[jade berry]

Not exactly. The repository was built, war was waged in full until the sentient defeat, just with us as solely operating warframes like the beginning

[pale violet]

A lot still happens like the genocide of the orokin and the old war ending

[thick jolt]

And of course the night of naga drums

[pale violet]

But this is really close to bridging it completely

[plush swan]

Actually, we've got several ways to do this:

1. Alter the timeline
2. Archon Shards, like Natah
3. Find another like Adis
4. Frankenwhatever

[empty violet]

I thought we tenno ended the orokin empire?
If we go to cryosleep just after the incident at prerita then when do we find out that margulis is killed and take revenge on orokin?

[thick jolt]

Not cryosleep, yet

[jade berry]

We arent in cryosleep in full, we essentially get permanently locked into transference in lua

[plush swan]

Natah takes Margulis's place and sends us to kill them (after Margulis is dead)

[thick jolt]

Yup

Her being willing to take the blame puts a lot more depth into that trial scene we heard huh

[pale violet]

We do at some point "come back" during the scene we're we help lotus kill Erra during the old war

[jade berry]

Yeah, but that seems to be under the control of wally

[hearty pendant]

why would wally be there at all,,

[empty violet]

So Margulis died because she took the blame for us (as we were set up)?

[thick jolt]

That's what she implied at the last scene yeah

[jade berry]

Because of what her husband did :)

[empty violet]

that piece of garbage Ballas😔

[cerulean kiln]

And because she refused to renounce us

[pearl vine]

For something called the indifference they seem pissed

[thick jolt]

Ballas the garbage bag that keeps garbaging

[hearty pendant]

its what he does, not what he is

[cerulean kiln]

Indifference doesn’t mean emotionless

[jade berry]

First time meeting another person and the dude cuts your finger off

[plush swan]

They are angry and they like it when we are angry

Indifference is a weird name for them, tbh

[pearl vine]

Hearing the operator say rap, tap, tap scared the shit out of me

[plush swan]

"The Man in the Wall" (Wally) makes sense, at least

[pale violet]

Its feeding off the negative emotions of anything that it takes interest to but for others its indifferent

[pearl vine]

Oh

[jade berry]

I like the ancient in world aztec name

[plush swan]

TBH, I think it fit in great

[dry nest]

anyone else having 21th floor locked even tho its completed?

[pearl vine]

It did but like…damn hearing that true deep anger

[jade berry]

Xipe Totec

[cerulean kiln]

Why does everyone assume Indifference means emotionless?

Because that’s literally not what Indifference means

[hearty pendant]

its just apathy

[pearl vine]

It’s more like apathy if I get that right

[pale violet]

It seems to enjoy when we are sad or angry I think it tries to be the voice in our head that makes you sad

[plush swan]

Especially with Wally saying that they like seeing us angry and violent.

I'm not sure if that's something Wally values for its own sake or something Wally likes better than the alternatives that Wally is aware of.

[pale violet]

"they're laughing at you up there kiddo"

[pearl vine]

So it’s the opposite of what I thought it was

[thick jolt]

Same way they assume protoframe to be prototypeframe

[pearl vine]

Actually, no, it’s pretty much what I thought it was. I don’t know it’s complicated.

[pale violet]

"Yes kiddo kill slice maiem

[cerulean kiln]

Drifter had a whole thing of having apathy and a quest collecting emotions

[pearl vine]

Yeah, who would think it means that 👀

(I don’t actually think it means that I’m just being stupid)

[empty violet]

imo wally is manipulating us to give in to dark side

[solid raven]

Maybe wally is just a big stinky liar with its name lol

[plush swan]

I don't think any of Wally's names are self-given

[cerulean kiln]

Everyone who hasn’t read the notes which is many people

[pale violet]

Just remember the quote "it wants you to feel bad it wants to take from you" I believe this was from an unrelated arg but it fits the indifference

[pearl vine]

I always thought it was almost Eldridge

[solid raven]

actually yea
Rell said it was motw
didn’t Albrecht say it was indifference?

[hearty pendant]

it feeds on negative emotions, so it creates them to the best of its ability. it drove the hex apart, it fed on Loid's spite of albrecht for leaving (and why he was almost immediately banished upon love being rekindled)
he might be responsible for the entrati family as well

[pearl vine]

Rell… I feel so bad for him

[livid portal]

Ill just give its finger back problem solved

[thick jolt]

Albrecht used both iirc

[pale violet]

Yep its manipulating us into a depressive apathy state this was also shown after the sacrifice where it supports us taking the blame for Iza's death

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht said “that man trapped in the Wall” way before the Zariman incident

[hearty pendant]

albrecht called him a man trapped in the wall, but named him the Indifference

[jade berry]

Potato invasion!!

[tawny bolt]

Kalymos is now petable. Ur welcome

[solid raven]

Same at least he’s at peace now
Hearing Rap Tap Tap again from the operator in Old Peace was sick tho

[thick jolt]

This is a great service to all, have a

[pearl vine]

Yea it’s just scary cause also, the operator is like I don’t wanna say infinitely powerful but extremely powerful

[cerulean kiln]

Rell basically copied Albrecht’s homework and changed it up a little

[thick jolt]

Lol

[pale violet]

I am not ready for the horrors plauging Lyon.

[jade berry]

Did i just get an honoria for it?

[thick jolt]

Cant wait to unlock lyon and find out what's up with the donda

[tidal spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-warframe-prime-speed-run-gif-5262691005362441267

omw kitty :3

[pale violet]

Rell was the perfect prison for Wally it's hard to feed off emotion when the person your feeding them off from doesn't really feel them in a normal way

[jade berry]

"Kalymos' Best Friend: Awarded for interacting with kalymos in the backrooms"

[thick jolt]

Lol

[plush swan]

I don't follow.

Why would Wally care about normal?

other than to dislike it

Albrecht seemed to think that Wally was specifically drawn to creatures and things that are unique

[solid raven]

Yea, tho I suppose shaking hands with an eldritch void entity would do that to you haha
Ironically operator is stronger when they’re just pissed and just use the void beam, my amp can’t down dropships lmao

[cerulean kiln]

Wally can still feed off them because Alexithymia isn’t the absence of emotion and thus they’re still there to mess with

[plush swan]

Where do we get the idea that Wally feeds on emotions, as opposed to just reacting to them (and probably having opinions on them)?

[pale violet]

To feed off it and manipulate but Rell was special he experienced emotions in a different way Wally probably ran into some difficulty because of that

[plush swan]

Wally seems to specifically like things that are special/different.

See: Albrecht's experiments that lead to the Cavia

So it's more likely that Wally followed Rell because Rell was different

[upper flint]

sorry, hi all 🙂 is it normal ?

[pale violet]

The fragmented tide fight in whisper in the walls and the vessel as well they both also Albrecht hiding his emotions but these can be interpreted either way

[solid raven]

Yea, I mean someone said somewhere that the Void likes uniqueness

And Albrecht gave it the last 2 Cervulites, a good looking bird, and a mahoosive fish
And only 1 ended up dead and it wasn’t Wallys fault

[jade berry]

Nobody knows, its all guesswork including in universe when it comes to wally