spoiler-chat

[raven bluff]

like a good build, my build helped me get by SP for a few missions and normal path descendia is hard

[plush swan]

I like Dante.

[opaque dove]

Can’t wait to experience the Perita rebellion

[undone lodge]

Torture is literally an Orokin pasttime

[opaque dove]

Aya is literally the stored memory plasma, it’s mentioned somewhere that aya contains an orokin’s favorite memories, including torture, executions, etc

[round pawn]

The child soldier when they realize their leaders were unethical:

[thick cedar]

can we mass genocide them.. again

[thick jolt]

Something isnt clicking here
How can you do steel path but have trouble with normal mode?

[zenith jacinth]

I wish

[raven bluff]

my gauss’ sunder helps, it doesn’t do much in descend is

[undone lodge]

Not until we find Albrecht and get him to build another time machine

[round pawn]

I also felt like enemies were more ability resistant in descendia

But laetum solved that problem 😈

[opaque dove]

Penance effects make for fun scenarios sometimes. Like tiny Hollow Veins severed wardens and anatomizers

[fiery oyster]

didnt feel like they were resistant to my Valk 😛

[zenith jacinth]

Put me in the refractory, let me re-experience the night of naga drums

[thick cedar]

I don't think our operator would have memories of that since we were already on our way to Lua

[round pawn]

My builds also might just be ass

[zenith jacinth]

We already were on lua

[zenith jacinth]

Ye

[round pawn]

[cinder marten]

ok so basically the later part of the old war started on tau and then margulis shipped us back to lua to be put in the second dream state?

[thick cedar]

either way it happened after we had our memory wipe and were put in the egg

[cinder marten]

and when we were hunting ballas that was when all the tenno back on the sol system were killing all the orokin?

[zenith jacinth]

Except it wasn't a proper wipe and we'd still have memories of stuff during the second dream

[zenith jacinth]

No that's the start of the 2nd half of the old war

[cinder marten]

oh so we were already killing the orokin before the truce?

[zenith jacinth]

N o

[cerulean kiln]

We killed them after the War ended

[cinder marten]

so margulis took us back to lua and then told all the tenno what went down on tau and that's when they went berserk

[zenith jacinth]

[cinder marten]

question mark

[cerulean kiln]

No

[tender geyser]

Why can I only buy one tektolyst artifact pack shouldn’t I be able to buy it 5 times?

[cerulean kiln]

She took us back to Lua and we had those memories sealed away she didn’t ever bring it up to anyone we know of

[regal crest]

Tau missions are super bugged, to the point where fighting the Hunhullus I could not revive cuz the game didn't knew if I was using archwing lol

[cursive prairie]

How do you get new dialogues for devils triad in KIM?

[cinder marten]

wait so margulis took the blame for what happened on tau and that's when they executed her right? then the tenno all got mad and killed everyone

then they went to sleep?

[zenith jacinth]

Old war goes on for a while with tenno vs sentients, margulis dies, gets replaced by lotus, war keeps going, tenno "win" eventually and during victory ceremony the killing starts

[tender geyser]

They should let us revive ball ass so we can off ourselves this time

[thick cedar]

that explains the drums

[round pawn]

The only way for our story to make sense is if we didnt take part in the night of naga drums, since we already learned of some of the sevens schemes in the old peace.

Night of naga drums was orchestrated by natah, after she took the form of margulis, if memory serves me right

[cinder marten]

and what's this about the alien flowers aka xenoflowers

[zenith jacinth]

The orokin killing is like way after the old peace

[cinder marten]

new mcguffin

[tender geyser]

Pao they should all so let us play the 10 bells incident

[cerulean kiln]

We killed the Orokin after the war ended I already said this

[round pawn]

Xenoflora is what gave sentients independence

[zenith jacinth]

Flowers on tau that gave sentients individual minds, anarchs killed all the flowers tho

[cinder marten]

so they killed the flowers and sentients got mad and the truce ended right

[round pawn]

Did you play the quest

[zenith jacinth]

The memories of the truce were locked away

[cinder marten]

yeah i just finished it and i'm just confusion

[zenith jacinth]

Heavily simplified yes

[round pawn]

Its not that they got mad, its that they are forcefully reverted to mindless/order oriented existence

[zenith jacinth]

Unintentional pun typo

[thick cedar]

Ballas was def behind it as well

[cinder marten]

the quest is paced very weirdly in some parts it feels like i accidentaly skipped a cutscene or something lol

[zenith jacinth]

They did get very mad too bc of the perceived betrayal

[thick cedar]

yeah I was pretty confused in parts as well

[cinder marten]

like the jump to the 2nd hunhullus fight was so abrupt lmao

[zenith jacinth]

I'm too autistic about the lore to get confused

[round pawn]

I mean im sure some would be mad, but im talking about like how dactolyst reverted to order oriented existence in the beginning of the quest

[zenith jacinth]

That's not the reason for the old war getting a season 2 tho

[stray shadow]

what i want to know is: how is an orokin beside albrecht stuck in 1999 and a protoframe?

[thick cedar]

I mean I literally have Orokin written in a booklet on my desk

[thick cedar]

1899 actually

[zenith jacinth]

Because of albrecht

[zenith jacinth]

Like the script or the word

[round pawn]

That specific event no, but I'm talking about the overall truce falling apart

[thick cedar]

yeah the word ofc

[zenith jacinth]

So am I

[thick cedar]

no the script

[round pawn]

Cause iirc operator did say they were gonna cover it up

[thick cedar]

I went through trying to translate some things from orokin into English

[round pawn]

"They" being orokin

[zenith jacinth]

Cover up that they betrayed the sentients

[round pawn]

So i doubt just the events of the quest were the reason things fell to shit again

[zenith jacinth]

But they were.

[round pawn]

I'm saying they heavily contributed

[cinder marten]

so the incident on tau is the thing that got margulis jade lighted right

[round pawn]

But I wouldnt be surprised if "publicly" something else ticked people off

[thick cedar]

yeah she would not tell them where we were

[cinder marten]

then sentient natah took on the lotus

[round pawn]

Also them making Adis cover his face broke my heart

[cinder marten]

i kinda forget that margulis and ballas were together during this time period lol

[zenith jacinth]

Th

Too busy now will correct later

[dire slate]

there's a gamebreaking bug in the Perita Rebellion that spawns you without an archwing for the second part...

[regal crest]

This mission is super bugged, to the point it becomes impossible to finish

[round pawn]

Im also pretty sure margulis was executed for protecting us in general

Not for tau specifically

[undone lodge]

Albrecht drive-by grabbed him

[cobalt scroll]

I still need the somachord for Adis song

[woeful jacinth]

Bro got snatched up

[cobalt scroll]

like it keep scanning for the same one

[zenith jacinth]

Margulis refused to let the orokin use us as weapons, they knew where we were obv

[shut lark]

I can walk in the sky???

[round pawn]

Margulis also broke some laws i think

[zenith jacinth]

The quest was the direct lead up to war part 2 there's nothing else inbetween

[undone lodge]

“Who but we may tame the sky” you too ig

[round pawn]

And ballas was pissy because he was infatuated with her

[thick cedar]

thats what I get for listening to people in this server

also that was not a goddamn hallway tile there's no way

[zenith jacinth]

She only got blasted for not wanting us weaponized

[zenith jacinth]

Quotation marks.

It acts like a hallway tile

[thick cedar]

that did not help bro I was looking for an actual hallway

[round pawn]

I think theres miscommunication, i know no other major events happen, and old peace leads into more old war

But i mean like, orokin schemes happening behind the scenes of what we see

[zenith jacinth]

That's your fault

[thick cedar]

did the chat shit the bed again

[zenith jacinth]

Quotation marks were used for a reason

[zenith jacinth]

Orokin schemes are what was happening

[pale grove]

I joined the server just to ask this is there any full version of the Uriel theme during his unleashing? Couse goddamm that song hits hard

[zenith jacinth]

Roses from the abyss

Thas the song

[thick cedar]

they really need to change the constant "failed to connect to chat server" like I understand to tell us it cannot connect but it keeps doing it

[pale grove]

Thank you, was going mad searching for it 😂

[round pawn]

I mean schemes beyond the one we took part in 😭

[thick cedar]

is the unleashing the part where we play as him

[woeful jacinth]

Felt a little devious

[pale grove]

Yes when uriel goes full aura farming

[round pawn]

Felt a little devilish one might say

[woeful jacinth]

Bro got so mad he jumped off the planet just to kill someone

[trim canyon]

I just did the 21 levels consecutively without dying on sp but i didnt get the horniria?

[woeful jacinth]

That is hatred I haven't seen in a good while

[thick cedar]

I wanna kick myself for this but for some reason I had my music volume muted the ENTIRE QUEST

[round pawn]

Shame! 🗣️

[pale grove]

God this quest felt so refreshing like going back to the old cinematic quests

[woeful jacinth]

I think i read something about it not showing up for the end of mission but it still being in your inventory

[round pawn]

Highly recommend replaying with music when you can

The music adds so much

[pale grove]

Oh damm

[umbral zephyr]

Uriel Prex c: (just spam "interact")

[thick cedar]

yeah I really wish they added a replay button immediately

[plush swan]

Happens a lot

[trim canyon]

its not there for me, do you have to complete it solo?

[round pawn]

The part when you raid the other zariman ship, there is a music track that uses the core zariman motif

But its played to be more sinister

[pale grove]

The music in this quest is spot on it even made me tear up

[round pawn]

Every update they kick even more ass with music

[thick cedar]

they put their sound design team on drugs this update as well man

[pale grove]

One thing for sure this quest made me want to kill ballas all over again can we replace uriel farming with ballas so we can torture him?

[thick cedar]

god DAMN

the sound of those ships blowing up in the operator missions is so good

[round pawn]

TGA are in like 8 hours

[pale grove]

Ikr when our operator goes on a rampage with the void beam the mix of explosions and music hits hard

[round pawn]

I swear if warframe doesnt win something this year

[pale grove]

Not being nominated for continued service online game is really wtf imo

[shut lark]

I am definitely one who may touch the sky

[round pawn]

I just checked

[pale grove]

Btw guys how many of you think we finally getting Tau with the old peace 2nd part?

[round pawn]

No mans sky got nominated and not wf

[regal crest]

My beloved demon is pretty much ready~

[obtuse gyro]

I think DE won before

[shut lark]

that's waht they said I think, yeah

[obtuse gyro]

so we arent legible to be nominated again

[round pawn]

Ah thatd explain it

Are they eligible for other categories?

[thick cedar]

I've started building the parts too can't wait

[pale grove]

Still would make sense to be nominated again if they keep doing a good job i guess

[urban fog]

Did anyone else cry during the quest? 😭

[novel ivy]

has anyone run into a bug where stuck on || "Find the betrayer" || and the door is stuck trying to open?

[thick jolt]

Not necessarily old peace

Tennocon they said tau 2026
Also lotus mentioned going to tau at the end and it not being what they remember

[pale grove]

Yep twice 🥲

[undone lodge]

Is it just me or did the guitar from the Uriel cutscene sound like that one 1999 track?

[pale grove]

Yep there's so many hints at this point

[thick jolt]

Not really a hint when they announce an update named "tau 2026" thats a promise lol

[thick cedar]

Can we talk about this song real quick

[urban fog]

I cried when ||loid said the cavia have reverted and you hear tagfer||

[thick cedar]

because my god

[urban fog]

The entire soundtrack is so 🔥 they cooked so hard

[round pawn]

I audibly gasped and said "no wait.." out loud in my house

[surreal stratus]

The voice of the devil is sooooooooo hot

[pale grove]

The operator story imo hits me way harder due to the nostalgia

[thick cedar]

I don't think there is a single f2p game that has music that goes as hard as this game does

[urban fog]

I was so scared it was gonna be like fortuna and ||change them forever||

😭

After the quest I instantly ran to them and hugged them all

[pale grove]

Every single aoundtrack was a banger

[round pawn]

The cavia out of all the newer characters, are probably the one i love the most

[urban fog]

I cannot wait to see what DE cooks next, the story is SO GOODDDDDD

[pale grove]

Altough i dont think the world consequenses of this quest are being reflected on the game atm

The cavia regressing might be something we see in "part 2"

[thick cedar]

the only consequence would be that the cavia reverted

but also I don't know if they would do that for gameplay sake

[real niche]

Yeah because the world consequences are gonna be in Tau proper, who knows what was going on with the Cavia reverting

[urban fog]

😭 DONT SAY THAT NOOOOOO

[undone lodge]

I just realised

Lotus: "If Rell's been caught in a Transference loop for this long… the psychological effects could have been catastrophic. This 'Man in the Wall', these delusions – symptoms of the Void exposure all Tenno experienced.

“The voices”

[pale grove]

The cavia and we specifically seemed to piss the man on the wall

[urban fog]

I will protect them with my life

[thick cedar]

yeah he didn't seem that happy

[thick jolt]

Yuuuup

[urban fog]

Maybe an icecream cone would help?

[pale grove]

There's more to the unlocking of the tau memories specifically the Tauron school

[real niche]

Yup. Remember "Rap tap tap, little piggy?"

[urban fog]

I HEARD THAT AND FREAKED OUT

[undone lodge]

Yeag

[thick cedar]

also is it just me or was the hallway to the pool room in the quest VERY different that whats in the laboratory currently

[thick cedar]

maybe

[round pawn]

Also loid is once again peak in the quest

My second space uncle

[urban fog]

Might be a back door/entrance perhaps?

[pale grove]

The timing delivering that sentence was 👌

[thick cedar]

could be

[urban fog]

Was def different when you had to defend the place and clear the murmur out

Never thought of that

[pale grove]

There's a big plot hole with this quest though at the end of the new war we made a choice of what the lotus becomes that choice was completely forgotten here

[round pawn]

Lowkey kinda fine with it

I chose margulis, but then later regretted it, because lotus is who she wants to be

[pale grove]

I still felt very disappointed with the new war lore wise

[shut lark]

was it? where?

[urban fog]

Honestly though, what a blessing to work an 8 hour shift with only Warframe on the mind, then coming home to play it and it surpasses every expectation I had. Absolutely blew me away and I am itching to play more

[thick cedar]

I think it was canonically Lotus but they let us choose for gameplay sake

[shut lark]

ohhhhhh the cutscenes with loid?

[thick cedar]

yeah I also chose Margulis nad I realize that was probably not the right choice

[urban fog]

I never thought of all that cause I chose lotus haha

[pale grove]

If I'm not mistaken it even affected the wheel of "karma" so it's a lore decision

[shut lark]

when's that wheel gonna be important I wonder?

[thick cedar]

thats what I wonder too

[thick jolt]

Well lotus is a mimic, she can just change
also the quest seemed to need the lotus chords thingies

[shut lark]

nah that's what you wander

[pale grove]

The wheel is very likely a Steve thing that is going to be either forgotten or rehashed into something

[thin perch]

Question: Does Roathe send a message after each Descendia run, or is it every 24 hours like the Hex?
It's a silly question but I ran Descendia a second time around the time of the reset so I can't tell.

[thick jolt]

And although the player chooses, in lore she's the one choosing

[undone lodge]

It’s not, unless we ever get a proper “ending” when they decide they’re done with wf or want to make a wf2

Because warframe is what it is, they can’t add things like this that would actually lock out content

[urban fog]

I doubt they’d ever make a Warframe 2, they’ll just keep building off what they have

[undone lodge]

So they make it small, personal stuff for your character and little flavour stuff

[pale grove]

The only difference between lotus and margulis is the helmet tbh

[thick cedar]

why do people want sequels to live service games

[thick jolt]

And the chords did come from the helmet iirc

[thick cedar]

its like people wanting a Destiny 3 like that would fix all of the problems

[pale grove]

We already have warframe 2 with the engine overhaul tbh

I remember playing warframe silky smooth on my gtx 460 at the time

[thick jolt]

Hopefully steve is already teaching some people in the office how to work the spagetthi magick

[round pawn]

Imagine having to refarm primes in a wf2 hell naw

[undone lodge]

Eventually they’d reach a point where it’s too much effort, or the spaghetti code and buildup becomes too limiting

[real niche]

Evidently not now, considering they're dropping Tay next year

[thick jolt]

Although i love him, he's only human at some point he will need to retire

[thick jolt]

Hopefully far in the future

[round pawn]

I think steve is a lich and his cap is his phylactery

[thick jolt]

Nah it's the pink shorts

[round pawn]

Which is why he would give to rebb, so when they come to get him, they wont find it

[thick jolt]

Yup

[zenith jacinth]

Yea I'm glad I ran into it by accident

[trim canyon]

are we able to get the clothes the operator was wearing in the new quest?

[pale grove]

[undone lodge]

Or they just, reach a point where they don’t want to keep dragging it out and want to do something else with the setting, and making a separate game becomes more convenient and sustainable than building it all on top of base WF

[zenith jacinth]

Were

[thick jolt]

Caliban prime access
you are late

[undone lodge]

You could with Caliban’s Prime access, but its going to be a while

[pale grove]

Caliban prime access i think

[undone lodge]

Usually you’d be able to get it with his resurgence

[trim canyon]

😭

[round pawn]

Iirc in tennocon they said as long as we keep wanting it, theyll keep making it

[thick jolt]

Well suppose it will return with the ressurgence event later this monty

After all caliban is part of the prime vanguard

[round pawn]

Or at least on the writing panel they said that

[trim canyon]

oh really lol thats not a long as i thought id have to wait

[undone lodge]

Said it won’t on the blog

The accessories aren’t coming because it was too recent

[thick jolt]

Oof

[pale grove]

Btw the uriel voice lines when you spam the encounter are so funny 😂

[trim canyon]

aaannd im back to square one

[zenith jacinth]

Same

[thick jolt]

Missed chance really

Because now is when people would have a connection with and really want the suit

[round pawn]

I think he counts all the way to ||21||

[trim canyon]

😔

[trim canyon]

didnt know it exissted until now

[pale grove]

And there's a title that I didnt get 🥲

[opaque dove]

I damn near did when ||adis faded||

[thick jolt]

Best title has to be
The power of harrow compels thee

[round pawn]

"let me feel the sunlight" had me sobbing dude

[pale grove]

That made me cry 😢

[thick jolt]

Both the title and how to get it are just

[opaque dove]

I Need the Kullervo’s bane title

Remind me, what was the sunderer title for again

[plush swan]

Lore from The Old Peace:

The Lotus's tentacles are for your brain. 🙂

[opaque dove]

Lotus roots

[zenith jacinth]

Cables. They're cables.

[plush swan]

Tentacables

[wild coral]

So basically old peace is the mission right before margulis puts them on Lua right?

[pale grove]

I sold my chassis relatively recently b4 they announced 🥲 only have like 80

[undone lodge]

Yep

[opaque dove]

Lotus are water borne flowering plants, and their roots are pretty long, so maybe the cables are an analog for the root

[pale grove]

Our chair is filled with those somatic links

[supple dagger]

Anyone else on PS5 , Totally disabled air support ? 300 charges in my inventory … I seem to remember this last year too …!

[undone lodge]

Don’t tell New Loka

Or maybe do, this might bring good change for them

[opaque dove]

Screw New loka

[zenith jacinth]

"Only"

[zenith jacinth]

No it's not??

[wild coral]

For some reason i was expecting more :/
like the only thing to come out of it is operator now remembering how to do tauron strikes

[round pawn]

Its to tau as whispers was to 99

[pale grove]

All those void roots are somatic links like the lotus has on her helmet if I'm not mistaken

[zenith jacinth]

No they are not

[round pawn]

Its a quest that is setting up something bigger

[wild coral]

Oh okay

[round pawn]

That something being our return to tau

[pale grove]

Yea 1st of all it's a introduction to something major

[zenith jacinth]

The void roots are arboriform which apparently works like a conduit for void energy, lotus' cables are cables

And the two look nothing alike ._.

[wild coral]

Maybe lotus cables just have thick wires insulation so u can’t see the rooots

[pale grove]

I mean you are right if the lotus used somatic links her coms with us wouldn't be interruptable

[wild coral]

Tau frames plz

[pale grove]

But I think they might be somehow related "tech wise" due to how they can fiddle with our brain

[wild coral]

Tau companions

[zenith jacinth]

Uriel

[wild coral]

Tau liches

[pale grove]

Uriel is a tau frame

And even uriel mentions the existence of a uriel prime

[round pawn]

Uriel is also a france frame when you think about it

[wild coral]

Proto harrow and wisp also

[zenith jacinth]

Whuh

[pale grove]

I love how Marie's voice lines ain't translated and they just assume we understand French 😂😂

[round pawn]

Just makin a funny about how roathe is in what is most likely france

Well i guess it might not be france

[zenith jacinth]

The cathedral place seems to be outside of their original time but also not

[thick cedar]

its actually canada

[wild coral]

I don’t speak French but it’s probably harrow and wisp roasting roathe

[round pawn]

Since the world is different from ours

Geopolitically

[zenith jacinth]

They do that in descendia

[pale grove]

Cathedral is xx99

[wild coral]

What is the xx
2299?

[undone lodge]

18

[pale grove]

Likely 18

[wild coral]

Where u guys get these dates

[round pawn]

I took a tad but if french before duolingo went all hail ai

This update makes me wanna resume learning the basics, just so i can know what marie and lyon are saying without translating

[undone lodge]

No it’s in Ghaule, Canada is Canata

[round pawn]

Roathe said this while i was idling by him last night

So likely 1899

[limpid echo]

Did anybody killed Daklo, let him alive and wanted see who would kill him, all Warframe Streamer I saw so far also did the same

[round pawn]

A case could also be made for 1799, as its about to be the turn of the century

But i think 1899 is likely since itd be less confusing

[zenith jacinth]

Image that DE accidentally showed where the date isn't censored

[undone lodge]

They accidentally leaked it when they put the screenshot of the new KIM UI and forgot to replace it with XX, and theres a voicelines that just got screenshot posted here showing him saying it’s the Nineteenth century

[wild coral]

Hmm

[round pawn]

Itd make sense, since religion as we know it was still heavy in that area at the time

Even if their religion is different, it clearly draws real world inspo

[opaque dove]

I blew the bigot up

[obsidian void]

hey for the new focus weapons uhh how does one get the materials?

[opaque dove]

Perita rebellion

[zenith jacinth]

Ptsd simulator

[wild coral]

Spam missions each mission has different mats

[zenith jacinth]

Each mission drops one of em

[obsidian void]

so the past missions?

[opaque dove]

As well as Uriel mats

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[obsidian void]

good to know

[undone lodge]

Woah woah woah, post traumatic stress disorder? This is just TSD, we’re still going

[wild coral]

I got Uriel and all his gun bps from 18 boss runs

[unreal haven]

not post yet 😭

[zenith jacinth]

The war is over so

[obsidian void]

Disorder? this is just life no disorder to it its just the characters life

[undone lodge]

And yet the trauma train keeps chugging along

[zenith jacinth]

I got uriel and all his gun bps from 2 runs and buying the rest

[undone lodge]

Clearly someone never let it know

[obsidian void]

also did anyone else cry at the end of the quest when he took the forever nap?

[zenith jacinth]

Descendia rewards like a crapton of the pity currency

[zenith jacinth]

If I could, probably

[wild coral]

U missed out on all his voicelines

[round pawn]

I cried like two-three times throughout the quest

[cloud prairie]

did i miss a cutscence for the cathedral they just kinda showed up after old peace with no explanation

[zenith jacinth]

Ok

[thick cedar]

I didn't cry at all during the quest

[wild coral]

You casted and cried

[zenith jacinth]

They do just do that

[thick cedar]

this is probably because of my toxic masculinity

[round pawn]

Theres a kim dialogue where loid lets you know

[thick cedar]

(idk what I am talking about)

[zenith jacinth]

Or repressed trauma

[undone lodge]

You should’ve gotten a message from Loid, and then a cutscene when you go to either sanctum or actually enter the cathedral, idr

[thick cedar]

yeah thats probably it

[round pawn]

And then you get a first time cutscene when you show up to the necralisk

[zenith jacinth]

I physically can't cry bc autism+trauma

[wild coral]

We need to put you in the dark refeactory so we can see why you don’t cast and cry

[thick cedar]

oh no no we do not need to go through my head

[unreal haven]

what charges the tauron strike?

[wild coral]

Tauron batteries

[obsidian void]

also is it better for sp or normal for the materials?

[zenith jacinth]

SP for once

[cloud prairie]

huh i never got that mail just the one from lotus with the urial blueprint

[zenith jacinth]

They finally figured it out

[zenith jacinth]

On the pc not inbox

[round pawn]

Check your pom pc, under your profile image therell be a new tab

[thick cedar]

ooo

I do wanna try SP for the operator missions

[fair depot]

I think it's mad goofy that it takes ~30 total runs just to unlock 1 ultimate, not to mention the further materials required to upgrade the nodes.

[cobalt scroll]

I found every somachord except the Manifold

[zenith jacinth]

One comparison: I got about 10 of the rarest resource on regular. 50 on SP

[thick cedar]

I really hope those aren't required to talk to Lysol

[zenith jacinth]

LYSOL

Good yes

I keep that name for him now

[round pawn]

Poor tylonel, no one says his name right

[fair depot]

Wait, you mean the disk things, right? Not the mission reward resources you need?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[wild coral]

150 total each
Roughly 30 per mission SP

That’s like 15 x3
45 missions

[thick cedar]

isnt it great

[zenith jacinth]

But tbh you'll want to farm both

[fair depot]

Wait how the heck are you getting 30 per mission?! Do you have a booster or something? Highest I yesterday was 15

[wild coral]

Steel path

[cobalt scroll]

SP give 19 iirc

[round pawn]

I think you get more per obj done in rebellion

[fair depot]

I was on steel Path....

[zenith jacinth]

I'm getting about 15 per regular so... hm

[wild coral]

Wadujek

[cobalt scroll]

wait are my SP bugged?

[wild coral]

I swear I’ve gotten 30 i literally farmed uruel mats

[rain dew]

The highest I’ve gotten on SP so far is like, 17 and I ran that literally all of last night.

[fair depot]

I'm gonna cry if I accidentally turned it off and just didn't notice because it was still in the 160+ range

[wild coral]

How many orders did u guys execute on average?

[thick cedar]

probably 5

[fair depot]

6-8

[zenith jacinth]

7

[round pawn]

10 guaranteed +1 per order completed

[wild coral]

I was hitting 8

[zenith jacinth]

Curious

[real niche]

It's not based on orders, the patch notes show how much you're rewarded.

[zenith jacinth]

Resource booster be like?

[real niche]

Hmm?

[round pawn]

Im just parroting the wiki

[cobalt scroll]

then what is the point of SP?????

[zenith jacinth]

Servoris

[wild coral]

I probably had one and i didn’t notice or i was just so fried from farming

[fair depot]

That's what I was tracking, which averages out to like, 30 runs per tauron

[round pawn]

If patch notes have said otherwise, then wiki is wrong

[real niche]

Mods from the Warframe enemies

[cobalt scroll]

what does that do (I'm bad with name)

[zenith jacinth]

Rare resource

[wild coral]

Theres alot of new tauron mod things

[zenith jacinth]

Resource needed for everything new

A lot of it

[cobalt scroll]

ah I see
also where do I equip them (do I have to unlock the school ultimate?)

[tropic venture]

the point of SP is the same as always: more/better drops

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[wild coral]

Can’t use without strike tho, i dont have strike yet

[tropic venture]

They are equipped to the artifact

[fair depot]

Plus you get a ton of steel essence. I was getting like 10 per run

[cobalt scroll]

I wish more drop to get ultimate faster

[round pawn]

So is the wiki lying?

[cobalt scroll]

man 150 each mission for each ult is insane

[round pawn]

Me check patch notes

[tropic venture]

Marie also sells some different resources daily

[round pawn]

Also wait a minute

[cobalt scroll]

DE should increase it to 15 base tbh

[round pawn]

Did yall see they made a tga channel for tonight

[limpid echo]

A lot player I see literally just buying the material

[fair depot]

I think it'd feel better if you got one for doing the quest like how you got a school for doing war within. That way you don't feel locked out of the rewards you have to farm to get one

[round pawn]

Will DE be there tonight?

[cobalt scroll]

but she only sell 1 type per day

[wild coral]

I think they’re gonna announce something new

I remember the lotus ceo lady said she might dress up as lotus

[limpid echo]

At the end, grind until 150 or buy it, your choice

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[real niche]

You get free resources that gets you halfway there, and for the really impatient, you can buy a full set with Plat

[round pawn]

"lotus ceo lady"

[zenith jacinth]

Rebb

[wild coral]

I forgor her name, rebecca

[limpid echo]

Booster doesn't affecting the materials from perita right?

[zenith jacinth]

Rebbford

[cobalt scroll]

full set of what btw

[zenith jacinth]

Do

[wild coral]

Rebbeca rebbforb

[real niche]

The resources to buy a Tauron strike

a strike btw

[limpid echo]

Ok, how much would you get from booster and steel path 1 run then? 20?

[zenith jacinth]

I do not enjoy this new double tap to auto-react feature

[round pawn]

Do we think this is the actual rewards

[wild coral]

Mine is set to pregnant man for some reason

[round pawn]

Or do we think wiki is borked

[zenith jacinth]

Last used reaction

Mine is arrow up

[wild coral]

But i don’t spam pregnant man i spam skull emoji or 😭

[cobalt scroll]

oh nice
I only use the Zenruik so dont really care about the other

[zenith jacinth]

Was your last used reaction either of those

[wild coral]

I remember getting more than 10 tho

[limpid echo]

So if no booster nor steel path
You need to repeat this mission 75 times for everything

[zenith jacinth]

Read it again

[tropic venture]

"and an additional 1 for each Order"

[wild coral]

💯 this was

[limpid echo]

Wait a min, 12 min times 75 is literally 900........

[zenith jacinth]

Lemme see

[wild coral]

Hmm

[zenith jacinth]

Ah, it's manually chosen

[wild coral]

Ohh

[zenith jacinth]

Curious

[wild coral]

100 is now my spam

[bright plover]

Ok roathe sucks as a boss fight

generic bullet sponge

[zenith jacinth]

Funneh

[bright plover]

3 moves 1,000,000,000,000 hp

[zenith jacinth]

Git gud

[wild coral]

U can melt him fast in normal if ur farming him

[limpid echo]

Aren't all old peace boss bullet sponges, hunhullus, dactolys and the 6 primes?

[bright plover]

Ok buddy you're a slamkong player i dont need to hear anything from you

[bright plover]

6 primes are not funnily enough

[zenith jacinth]

Only bullet sponge for me is duck tale list

[wild coral]

What’s slamkong

[round pawn]

The way i clapped his sp variant was invis ivara or gun bot gauss

[zenith jacinth]

I physically despise wukong so no

[balmy storm]

Wukong player that uses slam builds

[zenith jacinth]

Even when my entire codex list is completed wukong will remain empty

[wild coral]

Realized when he said
If wukong ty

[round pawn]

Laetum also slapboxes him because laetum

[balmy storm]

Also I don’t think slam is even meta anymore, it’s not dead but you need that height for the range

[bright plover]

It shouldn't take a boss fight 10 minutes with normal weapons
I really don't want to use those crappy room blowing builds because they remove all the fun but like damn

[round pawn]

You can use scourge, to force headshots and prime for secondaries

[zenith jacinth]

Use an enervate cycron

[round pawn]

I alt fire with scourge and laetum him down

[zenith jacinth]

Enervate cycron is really funny

Tenet obv

Mine can kill all stuff within seconds :)

[round pawn]

I wonder if orokin bane works on him

[zenith jacinth]

Doesn't

[tropic venture]

He might actually be counted to the Anarch faction, even if he lacks a codex entry

[wild coral]

What weapons are u using that make it 10 mins lol

[round pawn]

Do we know what anarch is weak to

[zenith jacinth]

Look at mission dmg recommendation

[round pawn]

Youre right

[balmy storm]

I’m questioning that too lol

[zenith jacinth]

I know they resist rad for no reason

[cobalt scroll]

is it a bug, or my internet is bad, because the game keep logging me out

[tropic venture]

Codex and mission selection tells you lmao

[round pawn]

Imp and electric

Weird combo

[bright plover]

Was using bassocyst
Had to actually use larkspur the entire fight to actually do damage though

[zenith jacinth]

You'd think the anarchists would be weak to the infighting dmg

[wild coral]

Have been buggy, kept having failed to connect chat

[round pawn]

But free influence real estate

Impact makes sense cuz grineer are as well

[jade berry]

So uh, what are y'alls thoughts on the school shooting sequence of the quest?

[wild coral]

Try high crit weakspot weapons, could melt him in like 2 mins

[round pawn]

I wonder why elec and not corro tho

[zenith jacinth]

Uh

[zenith jacinth]

Metal armor

It's like casting heat metal on a metal construct.
Painful.

[bright plover]

The only one i have is ax 52 i think

[round pawn]

Is modern grineer armor not metal?

I genuinely dont know

[jade berry]

We tell someone not to come to school, hop in a devil, shoot the place up, find someone we know and choose to kill or spare them. What did DE mean by this?

[zenith jacinth]

It's mostly ferrite

[tropic venture]

it is

[zenith jacinth]

Ferrite, ferrum, iron

[balmy storm]

Dax muscles don’t like being shocked ig

[round pawn]

Maybe they just wanted a changeup from the norm i guess

[wild coral]

Bro turned the ship into a cross extermination mission

[bright plover]

actually here, which should work (i don't use 80% of these weapons)

[round pawn]

Maybe not a lore reason behind it

[wicked elk]

Sorry but this cannot be coincidence xD

[balmy storm]

If they can have a lore reason then they’ll do it for a lore reason

[zenith jacinth]

Acceltra and felarx can probably do good work with a decent build

[round pawn]

+1 for felarx

[ruby vale]

huh?

[jade berry]

I'm like 99% sure they didnt realize the implication of it, but I genuinely cant stop laughing at how they wrote it in

[wild coral]

I think u can melt him with anything well built 18-20+% crit chance

[zenith jacinth]

Loid

[bright plover]

Oh man felarx i need to get evos on it damn

[round pawn]

All zari weapons slap

[ruby vale]

?!

[round pawn]

Or well zari incarnons at least

[cobalt scroll]

btw do you guys know how to get Routhe Simulacrum

[wild coral]

Did u kill the racist cepalon?

[jade berry]

He was nice to me once, I spared him

[wild coral]

Me too lol

[zenith jacinth]

Daklos realized what was going on, which is better than most characters

[balmy storm]

I got info out of him, called him a bigot and blasted him for being openly racist
Like
Even to Adis’ face

[bright plover]

He's not a bad guy just as misinformed as we were

[zenith jacinth]

I spared daklos for being smart

[wild coral]

I use stahlta and trumna prime

[grizzled iron]

I didnt because it kind of seemed like he was kind of waking up

Like if he had committed to being racist then he would have been supporting the lie, no?

[balmy storm]

Also realistically us blasting him does nothing lmao

He’s a cephalon, that’s a proxy body

[zenith jacinth]

What if it wasn't

[heavy vale]

maybe a bit out of place, but playing the Old Peace now, and was it an intentional decision to remove a dialogue from when we fight the Dactolyst? In the preview there was Galastra's "you can't heal a core override" making killing him a forced decision, but it seems to be missing to me, and it feels like we just killed someone "for no reason"

[round pawn]

I blasted him because he was racist, and didnt even admit wrong

[balmy storm]

Then I killed a bigot who maybe could have changed but probably not with what would come next (Orokin getting him)

[wild coral]

Yea i didn’t kill him cause, 1 they just got out of a war with them, 2 he seemed stressed from working on that caliban prime 3 he’s based

[zenith jacinth]

He already changed tho

[balmy storm]

They hadn’t just got out of a war with the sentients, they had peace for a while it seemed
Bro was just racist

[grizzled iron]

I don't know if it was necessary to have that line

As we say afterwards, it was literally life or death for us to kill him

[tropic venture]

buy from Roathe

[round pawn]

I dont think he apologized and even if he did, it was only with the devil on his doorstep

[thick cedar]

this is in the middle of the old war

[jade berry]

I think it went from being a pure core override, to losing sentience from not eating flowers

[balmy storm]

In words, not in actions
Also again with what would come next and it being a proxy body it doesn’t really matter

[round pawn]

He wouldnt have apologized if we didnt crash the party

[thick cedar]

also if they were at peace "for a while" they wouldn't be so shaky with the peace treaty, seemed new to me

[wild coral]

But how do u know u didn’t just perma him just cause guilty by association tho

[balmy storm]

Yeah
Specifically during a time of peace during the old war lol

Teshin’s racist to sentients too and that’s still not okay, I can understand why to a degree but that doesn’t mean it’s alright

[cobalt scroll]

ok so how do I stack the Tauron skill

I mean charge it up

[zenith jacinth]

With teshin it's arguably less understandable

[tropic venture]

kill enemies, pick up focus orbs

[balmy storm]

He either

1. Died
2. Lost a proxy body
3. If he survived the Orokin got him, likely “fixing” any growth he may have had

[tropic venture]

Hardest Warframe challenge: check the patch notes

[thick cedar]

is it racist to assume something that you WERE JUST AT WAR WITH might kill you at ANY moment

[grizzled iron]

Like I said, I gave him the benefit of the doubt because if he was truly committed to his bigotry I don't think he would have admitted that the Orokin caused the war, not Sentients

[thick cedar]

because that is the case that without that flower the sentient would go back to (guess what) KILLING YOU LIKE THEY DID AT THE END

[round pawn]

But then the issue of him knowing but not speaking up arises

[balmy storm]

Yeah? The sentients were entirely peaceful? Like it’d make sense if he was afraid but that’s not how Daklo felt, he thought they were weird

[grizzled iron]

He's a cephalon he's politically irrelevant

[wild coral]

They were only peaceful due to the xenoflowers tho

[thick cedar]

the sentient hive mind is extremely hostile

[round pawn]

The xenoflora gave them free will and independent existence

[ruby vale]

I feel like there were warmongers on the side of the sentients too

[novel finch]

Maaaan that uriel introduction was so extremely hype that i bought him on the spot as soon as i finished the quest

[grizzled iron]

If he spoke up it wouldn't cause any change and would just result in him being decommissioned

[balmy storm]

Oh for sure
I mostly just killed him cause in the moment and with the emotions going through my operator’s head at the time
Our interactions with Daklo prior are him being racist and him saying the sentients are weird

[wild coral]

Oh I’m not saying they’re not im saying if they need xenoflowers to stop themselves from going ape shi in the first place. Being around them just downright dangerous

[balmy storm]

Okay?
I’m not really sure how that changes anything lol

[tropic venture]

I let him go cause I had a target in mind, Daklo was just there

[round pawn]

And let's be honest humans resort to insane shit to when trying to survive too

To them xenoflora is their sustenance, their lifeblood

[balmy storm]

Oh if you kill him it takes like no time lol

[covert quest]

DE have to do something about.. idk... the part where they're not telling you things you should know
i see the devil's triad first in descendia talking to me like they already know me, then i meet them in sanctum anatomica, and then i talked to them on the kim where the game actually introduced them to me, when it's supposed to be literally the other way around

[thick cedar]

Daklo was a bystander

[round pawn]

It makes them as much of a person as us

[balmy storm]

Yeah you’re def meant to meet them on KIM first lol

[grizzled iron]

Sentients aren't dangerous per se without the flowers, as they said in the campaign the lack of flowers simply means they're susceptible to following orders

Basically the flowers grant them sentience but without them they're just robot drones

[thick cedar]

yeah the end of the quest as a whole was really weird

like they didn't tell you to check your inbox

[covert quest]

and the start. they kinda just throw you in there

[balmy storm]

He was, he was likely more capable of change than the Executors but he still sucked and likely would continue to suck considering the society around him

[round pawn]

Yeah bystanding by the empire, so along with them, he had to go 😈

[thick cedar]

the start was easier to guess, because you are clearly hiding from the big ass sentient

[balmy storm]

Daklo’s the type to go right back to being racist the moment the sentients are the true enemy again
Either by force or not
Cause
Bro is a cephalon

[wild coral]

Daklo did nothing wrong free my boy

[balmy storm]

He was literally racist 😭

[undone lodge]

It’s only the security staff and a boardmember so it doesn’t count

[round pawn]

I mean he literally called Adis a derogatory term to his face

[zenith jacinth]

It. It automatically opens it

[thick cedar]

didn't for me

[balmy storm]

Change of heart or not, that happened!

Also look at the Operator’s mindset in the moment
Really all the options you could make there make sense

[zenith jacinth]

We ignoring that daklo could've just been programmed?

[tropic venture]

If that's enough to get him killed the game would have like 3 living characters left

[round pawn]

Also lets be honest in character it felt good to crash out and kill em

[balmy storm]

Nope

[thick cedar]

literally

[tropic venture]

Ordis is racist to Grineer

ig he's gotta die

[thick cedar]

Ordis doesn't like the Tenno either, or at least Ordan Kordis (is that right) doesn't

[zenith jacinth]

The tenno are racist towards grineer and orokin

[balmy storm]

I’m not saying it’s enough to get him killed lol
It’s enough that the decision to kill him makes sense

[zenith jacinth]

Karris

[thick cedar]

Karris right

[balmy storm]

Neither of those are races

[zenith jacinth]

And sentients are?

[round pawn]

Orokin were the seven

[balmy storm]

YES
THEY ARE

[zenith jacinth]

Sentients aren't even organic

[ruby vale]

we literally allow a grineer to live in our hideout on earth

[round pawn]

But they are a people

[tropic venture]

modern Grineer I would say count as a separate human race

[covert quest]

orokin are probably modified so much for fashion purposes they're their own thing as well

[balmy storm]

Why?
Clonerot?

[ruby vale]

...do the queens count as grineer?

[thick cedar]

yeah cause they are NOT what they used to be

[round pawn]

I kinda agree but i also think itd make more sense for our tenno to be less cool headed in the past

[tropic venture]

Yes

[wild coral]

Aren’t they orokin in grineer bodies

[cerulean kiln]

Yes

[undone lodge]

This isn’t like another race was nice to him one time and it shook his racism he literally watched as the people he thought were in the right began setting the other race (who he had been begrudgingly working with and learning about) up so they could slaughter them and start back up the war that they had been celebrating the end of

[zenith jacinth]

I mean irl the difference is way less so are orokin and grineer different species or smth

[balmy storm]

Organic or not they’re alive, not how we know one to be but they are people same as any other
Just not meaty and humanoid

They’re more of a different race than the Grineer or Orokin

[glad jay]

Question, why can't we take the lipstick away without making the rest of the tattoo invisible as well...

[rain dew]

Because it’s all one thing

[glad jay]

WHY

[zenith jacinth]

Species

[glad jay]

T- T why

[rain dew]

iunno ask DE

[thick cedar]

what in tarnation is going on there

[round pawn]

And considering our friend just died at the time, crashing out on daklos isnt that crazy in character

I dont think modern op or drifter would do that

[wild coral]

Why does ur drifter have rocks on his face

[balmy storm]

Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s capable of change
But considering everything around him I doubt he really would have, either by societal pressures or literally being reprogrammed

[ruby vale]

hmmm

[balmy storm]

Sure yes
Different species

It’s still racism

[glad jay]

I got the tattoo/makeup, from madurai school, and when I put it on, you can't change the color on the lips or take them out without changing the color of the whole tattoo

[zenith jacinth]

The latter not being his fault

[undone lodge]

I don’t think societal pressures would be enough for specifically him with the experiences he went through

[tropic venture]

Unlike irl racism this is actual racism since it's actually different races, not just different looking people of the same race

[balmy storm]

Okay???
I didnt say it was

[glad jay]

gud question actually, no idea (probably umbra face accessory)

[zenith jacinth]

And why is it not when towards orokin and grineer

[round pawn]

Doesnt matter if sentients are a different race or mechanically born, xenoflora made them as aware as us

So in that they deserve equal freedom

[balmy storm]

I’d hope so but I think it ultimately doesn’t really matter

Also again killing him likely does nothing lol

[wild coral]

You literally said earlier he couldn’t be reprogrammed btw

#spoiler-chat message

[round pawn]

Orokin were specifically the elites of the empire, not a race/species of people

[ruby vale]

species or race?
species has a rigorous distinction (fertile offspring not possible), and race is ill-defined

[balmy storm]

Because those are different species nor different races
The Orokin and Grineer are human same as any other, modified sure but not evolved or different

[rain dew]

defending the racist cephalon is crazy ngl

[round pawn]

Albrecht for example was orokin

[balmy storm]

No, that was me saying we can’t ignore that

[livid portal]

[zenith jacinth]

I'm defending that it doesn't deserve the death penalty

[cerulean kiln]

Still is Orokin

[balmy storm]

I’m realizing this kinda convo is kinda what DE wanted from this lol

[zenith jacinth]

Daklo was an a- bad guy but not enough to deserve getting blasted

[obsidian jacinth]

on everything we getting this as a pet next yr 😭🫶

[livid portal]

Nah

[wild coral]

Free my boy daklo he did nothing wrong

[round pawn]

Albrecht is also a human, orokin iirc is a status or title

[zenith jacinth]

Why is your UI so far from the corners

[cerulean kiln]

We didn’t see enough of Daklo to judge

[balmy storm]

I stand by that it makes sense due to what he said prior and our emotional state
Did he deserve it? Probably not, especially if he’s capable of change
But it likely doesn’t matter in the end due to what he is and where he is

[obsidian jacinth]

put it like

[balmy storm]

No he
Explicitly did stuff wrong, it’s what he does after that’s important lol

[livid portal]

Exactly. Anyone who says not is a void lugger

[obsidian jacinth]

ratio

[wild coral]

Free my boy 😭

[zenith jacinth]

Can't relate to the emotional state bit but that's just my 'tism or smth

[balmy storm]

I will blast him again

[ruby vale]

It's interesting how the new info we got (margulis planned/executed the second dream) redraws the picture we had of the lotus

[livid portal]

I'm coming for yall next year

[wild coral]

Actual daklo in chat is crazy

[balmy storm]

I tried my best to get into my operator’s headspace
Daklo was not a great guy to our bestie who. Yknow
And we’re full of rage and grief
Folks are gonna get blasted and. It sucks

[round pawn]

In character we were in a devil frame and we just lost our friend

Even if he had a chance to change, our character was not in the right mindset to weigh those options, it came down to a split call

[thick cedar]

who's a good boy!

[zenith jacinth]

Logic over impulse

[ruby vale]

I honestly think he'd get blasted anyway by a rogue sentient

[balmy storm]

The Operator’s approach was an emotional overreaction and that’s the point

[cerulean kiln]

I’m coming for you next year

[balmy storm]

During an action of literal impulse lol

[livid portal]

Daklo revenge arc next year would be crazy

[obsidian jacinth]

cannot look at bro the same again

[wild coral]

Man why they take his flowers he seemed chill

[obsidian jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

[round pawn]

Could daklos have changed maybe, but i was ripping and tearing

[balmy storm]

Or deleted by an Orokin if he survived

[ruby vale]

as margulis can see, tenno don't have those

[balmy storm]

?

[balmy storm]

Yeah this lol

[cerulean kiln]

Margulis can’t see

[undone lodge]

Margulis
See

[tropic venture]

it baffles me how many people are commenting on posts at how they didn't realize the wolf was Amar

[undone lodge]

Because the Incident with her eyes

[livid portal]

Has anyone even made videos about sagek and galariak prime?

[wild coral]

I thought adis was somehow gonna become ordis but then he died lol

[balmy storm]

I’m confused by what they’re saying cause
The tenno do have emotional outbursts and overreactions lol

[round pawn]

I gasped out loud when I heard Amar's name

[tropic venture]

the moment I saw Galariak Prime I was so hyped cause I was hoping for the original Hespar

[balmy storm]

Do you know Ordis’ lore?

[round pawn]

Ordis is a different guy

[tropic venture]

Cephalons were human

[wild coral]

I gotta relearn i didn’t touch the game for a while

[undone lodge]

The Tenno cannot have emotional outbursts, Margulis sees this herself

Margulis

What happened to Margulis

[thick cedar]

very different

[livid portal]

Nihil is a great guy for this

[cerulean kiln]

The real question is

Was that what Amar was before becoming a frame or was that who Archon Amar was named after

[tropic venture]

The Archons are the corpses of the Sentient Beasts grafted onto dead Warframes.

We have known this for years

[wild coral]

Oh i know that, it was just the name or-dis
A-dis
And i was making crack theories

[tropic venture]

the four Sentient Beasts were created by Hunhow and were among the "highest" Sentients in Tau, with the ram Pazuul being their leader

[round pawn]

Play ascension and i think theres some codex entries to learn more about ordis

[balmy storm]

Yeah I’m confused cause they do have outbursts, literally look at her and what we did after she was gone

[wild coral]

Pazul is just erra right?

[balmy storm]

The Ram

[undone lodge]

Yes, and what happened to Margulis?

[round pawn]

Pazuul is ram, erra is being puppeted

[wild coral]

Ah

[round pawn]

Whether Erra is still alive or just a corpse idk

[undone lodge]

Like, think of the incident in detail

[cerulean kiln]

Tenno are literally children and children are literally known for outbursts

[pale grove]

I'm still mad Erra was so overhyped to be crushed by a boulder 🤷‍♂️

[round pawn]

Hell dactolyst dying mightve been just us having an outburst of rage

[zenith jacinth]

Broke immersion so I decided to take it back a bit

[zenith jacinth]

No

[undone lodge]

Margulis lost her sight, remember what she lost it to specifically?

[wild coral]

I mean adis just died so i can see operator going ape shi

[livid portal]

I swear if hunhow does not move next year for tau I'm going to crash out

[round pawn]

Because we clearly were there to subdue dactolyst not kill, and we express regret over it

[wild coral]

I didn’t kill the homie daklo tho

[zenith jacinth]

I personally am physically incapable of directing any anger outburst towards unrelated participants so like. Daklo gets to live

[pale grove]

I didnt kill him either because he offered comfort when we and Adis fought

[round pawn]

And thats as valid of a choice

Both choices in the scenario make sense

[wild coral]

I wana see ordis and daklo fight in their proxy bodies

[zenith jacinth]

Daklo was a racist a- bad guy but he didn't kill adis

[shadow forum]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-void-lugger-daklo-gif-4334627403413065645

[round pawn]

It just depends on how you wanna direct your operator

[shadow forum]

got first focus artifacts and I gotta say the damages are crazy on steel path

[thick cedar]

wait did he I don't remmeber

[shadow forum]

finally some decent healthy warframes fights

[elder pilot]

How do I hurt the first giant sentient dood at the beginning of the old peace? I can grapple up to the light thingies or whatever like the text tells me, and it slings me towards them, but I can’t hurt them in any way it seems.

[shadow forum]

You mean big boss

[woeful jacinth]

Evil Ordis

[wild coral]

Shoot weak points

[elder pilot]

I guess so

[shadow forum]

Right and left leg and chest . Hit it until you see some damages.

[ruby vale]

things on the side of his legs

[elder pilot]

What weak points?

[round pawn]

He offers comfort after dactolyst and adis fights iirc

[pale grove]

There's alot of time between that and the choice moment that was when we got enlisted in the academy the "outburst" is after we graduate

[undone lodge]

A tenno child, blasting her in an emotional outburst

[elder pilot]

Oh. Alright, I guess. I’ll give it another shot.

[woeful jacinth]

Shoot the red crystals either on his legs or his chest

[shadow forum]

Yep I saw and they destroyed that ship,when that sentient was happy for adis and tenno.

[wild coral]

Operator went demon time

[elder pilot]

Oh I have the accessibility thing on where all enemies are red

[shadow forum]

I can understand all this now why tenno was angry and mad.

[elder pilot]

So I didn’t see the,

[thick cedar]

ugh I wish I didn't play it when I was tired

I can't remember anything

[zenith jacinth]

He tries to

[shadow forum]

so guys we will see a trailer of TAU next year.

[round pawn]

But what irks me is daklo while trying to offer comfort is also being expressly racist, so that influenced my decision on him later

[shadow forum]

and let's grind until we max this focus stuff.

[tropic venture]

Pazuul is the Ram, Erra is to him rn what the dead Mag Prime was to Nira

[zenith jacinth]

Too burnt out

[wild coral]

Gotcha

[pale grove]

Question here is we tenno weren't a singular individual where were the rest of us during the whole tau incident

[shadow forum]

Not if you play less stuff in that 12 minutes and fight only final boss.

[shadow forum]

They died by orokins who sended them all down to the egg.

[round pawn]

If DE wanted only one decision from us they wouldnt have given us the kill or spare choice

[zenith jacinth]

Well at least 6 are presumably dead

[woeful jacinth]

Operator jumping off a planet to kill a man

[wild coral]

Doing npc stuff. My tenno is the main character 😎

[zenith jacinth]

Then I won't get the resources I need tho

[shadow forum]

Rap tap tap let me in little piggy lol Ballas hides himself,while we see margulis.

[pale grove]

Wonder if they going to explain which tenno in specific voided margulis eyes

[shadow forum]

Ah true use drone to collect the staff and mag to pull all items towards yourself.

[zenith jacinth]

Rell

[round pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-penguin-gif-21839111

[pale grove]

I assumed rell too

[woeful jacinth]

Can't really blame him for hiding because he knew what would've happened if we found him. I still hate him tho

[shadow forum]

so I'm curious

[round pawn]

Live uriel footage

[zenith jacinth]

So far the only relatively reliable evidence points to rell

[ruby vale]

we can't kill him because we get to kill him later

[wild coral]

Anyone know why uriel doesn’t have the long orokin arm if it was their fashion

[thick cedar]

I'm sure he likes to think he's tough shit but he's a coward

[zenith jacinth]

Helminth

[shadow forum]

What hapenned between after tenno was taken to lua, we listened a chat between margulis and Ballas, about tenno's, how did lotus inherited margulis

[wild coral]

It shrunk it or something?

[shadow forum]

how did Ballas reprogrammed lotus

[zenith jacinth]

Converted to necessary size

[round pawn]

Margulis is later executed for protecting tenno and defying ballas

[wild coral]

Maybe not giving her xenoflowers

[round pawn]

Natah shows up to the tenno as margulis

[shadow forum]

that is because of adis.

[pale grove]

Margulis was jade lighted i assume ballas kind of cephalonned her brain into a sentient

[round pawn]

And instigates the night of naga drums

But thats later

[shadow forum]

seems we need a secret scene on this quest, that would spice things up of where Ballas hidden and how margulis lost her eyes when tenno use the powers.

[zenith jacinth]

Those two things are mutually exclusive

[wild coral]

Man i wish they showed young tenshin

[jade berry]

I wish they had shown more operators

[tropic venture]

I was kinda hoping that Teshin or Valeria would be an Anarch, and that that's how she died "by Tenno hands"

[woeful jacinth]

We got manipulators, instigators and executioners

[wild coral]

And then kill them off to become the primes we fight in perrita. Would’ve been more heart ache

[jade berry]

We know theres more warframes, we've seen more warframes, we see them get hijacked, yet it still seems like outside of the one scene in the zariman, they're afraid of showing more operators outside of actual co-op

[ruby vale]

||young umbra||

[shadow forum]

Maybe the TAU will show us everything we want to see and hear, I hope it will last 4 hours.

[zenith jacinth]

Other players are canon tbf

[rain dew]

Like I’ll just take voiceless operators walking in the background at this rate

[round pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-margulis-orokin-ballas-natah-gif-5544434714955435909

[ruby vale]

obviously, see TNW Zariman scenes

[novel shell]

Has anybody found out where Uriel's Prex is?

[wild coral]

I think he was already turned into a warframe at that point no?

[tropic venture]

Tau 2026 being another TNW-length quest would be acceptable

[ruby vale]

oh yeah

[pale grove]

Btw guys is it just me or in the new light/engine the prime accents are more yellow than golden specifically on the excall prime model

[zenith jacinth]

Likely no, actually

[shadow forum]

Tbh i noticed that video options changed many things after new patch o.o or is the map .

[ruby vale]

reflective surfaces in non-white are notoriously difficult to recreate in games

[pale grove]

In the throne room apparently someone posted up there

[cobalt scroll]

how to get the Syandana that the Prime grineer wearing (it like a double flag)

[tropic venture]

Lighting update as patch notes explain

[zenith jacinth]

Nonexistant

[tropic venture]

coming Operation

[round pawn]

Speaking of

[wild coral]

Cause wasn’t he one of the first warframes before they perfected it and removed their personality

[cobalt scroll]

oh, when?

[knotty cobalt]

I thought Ballas turn Adis into Warframe. I mean he turned many people he touch into Warframes already at this point.

[tropic venture]

Dec 16th

[round pawn]

The visuals in perita rebellion are stellar

[zenith jacinth]

There's a coming operation?

[tropic venture]

Yes

[cobalt scroll]

damn that long

[zenith jacinth]

No, complete opposite

[tropic venture]

Fellows don't watch dev streams or read patch notes

[pale grove]

The old peace map in general was obnoxiously bright for me then the rest of the game was too dark 😂

[jade berry]

They really wanted people to have time to get to the operation first iirc

[wild coral]

Oh man, ima replay the entire story with the updated engine some time

[zenith jacinth]

Umbra was made late in the war and intentionally made to keep the one memory as torture

[round pawn]

I avoided the last devstream to be more blind to old peace 👉 👈

[zenith jacinth]

Same and also bc I was busy vibin in fo4

[jade berry]

Yeah, umbra would be close to end of the war because the dax dude was about to expose ballas

[round pawn]

I had no clue about descendia until yesterday lol

[thick cedar]

neither did any of us

[wild coral]

I wish they incorporated it into the story more

[zenith jacinth]

I did

[tropic venture]

They showed and mentipned it weeks ago

[zenith jacinth]

Descendia was shown not long after the old peace reveal

[round pawn]

Only thing i saw of last devstream was the harrow title lol

[thick cedar]

alright man let me make my jokes

[pale grove]

I rly liked the variety of mobs and missions in descendia

[wild coral]

I also knew from that one devstream where they teased wisp kissing

[zenith jacinth]

It's much more bearable than circuit imo

[covert quest]

i feel like bringing Helios into descendia is a good idea

[pale grove]

Much more 100% agree

[zenith jacinth]

Even ptsd simulator is more fun

[pastel pasture]

so what is that thing?

[wild coral]

Just bring a heliocor

[zenith jacinth]

A red light

[pale grove]

The sun?

[zenith jacinth]

Bring it to perita rebellion

[round pawn]

Noctua works as well

[pastel pasture]

looks like it was some sort of like

emission beam

[zenith jacinth]

Perita? Perinta? Peter?

[wild coral]

40000% abilty str uriel ult

[jade berry]

I also found if you shoot the big eyes on the wall in descendia, it glows extremely brightly, and someone else joined in my shooting so it seems like a non local issue

[zenith jacinth]

Red sun?

Over paradise, perhaps?

[pale grove]

Tau is another whole system so the sun could be red 🤷‍♂️

[zenith jacinth]

It's a feature not a bug

[pale grove]

Warframe has 0 bugs 💯 bug free it just has alot of features

[thick cedar]

the sun is blue

and being sucked into another sun..?

[tropic venture]

Tau has two stars, one blue and one white/yellow

[pale grove]

Wasn't that just the void portal?

[opaque dove]

The Narmer deacons in Descendia weren’t as bad as I had expected

[wild coral]

I have a feeling that after this update the story is gonna lead us to teaming up with whatever is left of tau to fight wally, avengers endgame style

[tropic venture]

Tau Ceti irl has a yellow star like the sun, but Tau in Warframe has always been described as having a blue sun. The way they solved this discrepency now that we finally see Tau in-game is to have both

[zenith jacinth]

I cursed myself, the song is stuck in my head now

[thick cedar]

void portal? i don't think so

[round pawn]

I mean, it appears lotus was also interested in how adis could heal her kind

[jade berry]

The tauron strike in the quest look so goofy with the wrong one

[wild coral]

It’s because he casted and cried

[round pawn]

So maybe we're tryna heal praghasa to go to tau?

[wild coral]

He maxed out his vazarin focus school

[tropic venture]

or heal the Archons back to their former Beast selves

[opaque dove]

I thought her “corpse” burnt in the sun

[tropic venture]

and heal Erra too alongside that

[pale grove]

Oh we 100% joining up with the sentients the whole point of studying the Tauron School seemed to be to pair us with our Sentient companion for life

[zenith jacinth]

The archons are probably too far gone

[opaque dove]

Amar looks horrid compared to tau self

[round pawn]

I thought there was still part of her floating around

[wild coral]

But adis… 😟

[reef compass]

What did they intend to do with this? Some kind of Amalgam?

[pale grove]

Is part of us ❤️🥲

[wild coral]

Isn’t she the sentient ship

[opaque dove]

Binding of the soul, as itzam put it

[zenith jacinth]

Political marriage

[scarlet wren]

Real like I was so taken aback by the stark contrast

[jade berry]

Something powerful the orokin could control

[round pawn]

Sentient "mother"ship yes

[tropic venture]

Praghasa and Hunhow were the original two greater Sentients sent to Tau

[wild coral]

Amalgam Tau mod’s incoming

[opaque dove]

I want to pet Bloom Guardian, I want to mercy Archon

[zenith jacinth]

Two of the originals*

[pale grove]

Sentients longed to be human they lack orders the revert to hiveminding the flowers reversed that hivemind behaviour

[tropic venture]

"the original two greater Sentients"

[gilded night]

Where do you equip "antique" mods? They seem like they make the operator a ton better but I can't figure out how to equip them

[wild coral]

Tau companion would go so hard

[scarlet wren]

Dude. A mounted amar and taking back Tau for ourselves again?

[wild coral]

Think u need tauron strike first

[zenith jacinth]

Unclear how many the first were

[reef compass]

Yeah but with Orokin ulterior motives idk i am just questioning every "good" intentions <_<

[gilded night]

That is so confusing, but guess it makes sense

[wild coral]

Me after lotus put us in nappy time

[midnight crow]

so i own the tharas bow ult and maxed the tree out for it but idk how to charge the ultimate bar? took 40 min in lua survival 5000 kills uhh to get the ult charged.

[zenith jacinth]

Get tauron strike

[tropic venture]

yeah, I'm saying that among the original ones, Hunhow and Praghasa were the two Greater Sentients

[woeful jacinth]

Okay so first you need to get a tekyolyst artifact from wisp protoframe (its pretty much your tauron strike but you can use it anywhere)

After you get one, you'll be able to use the mods

[tropic venture]

You equip them to the artifacts, not to the Operator themselves

[scarlet wren]

Me when demon ballas gets thrown into the fiery depths

[round pawn]

This is Praghasa

Aka lotus' mom

[woeful jacinth]

Be aware, you'll need to play the rebellion missions a lot to get enough materials to unlock the tektolyst artifact

[pale grove]

The orokin were just looking to appease the sentients couse they knew they would lose

[wild coral]

Gramama

[floral ore]

~6 hours of Perita for one artifact

[pale grove]

There is alot of tau lore jammed in the uriel dialogues in the 99 computer

[zenith jacinth]

You need to pick up something killed enemies sometimes drop I think

[reef compass]

Yeah the political marriage approach mentioned seems the most logical answer

[midnight crow]

uh but ive killed 5k enemies

[zenith jacinth]

It was a joke but it does make sense

[woeful jacinth]

I think the rate to charge is very low for some reason. This is how you charge it:.

[midnight crow]

ahh i see

[wild coral]

So you need lenses on all ur stuff now

[midnight crow]

yeah got no lenses on

[pale grove]

There's a voice message from uriel saying that post the flower incident the orokin sent their largest warship that barely fitted the void portal to tau and the sentients efficiently dispatched it

[woeful jacinth]

I could only get it to charge enough for 2 uses during the rebellion missions

[zenith jacinth]

Always did

[woeful jacinth]

Probably, Im still testing it

[reef compass]

It was the treaty after all and Adis was supposed to show to the Orokin that he had reached "final evolution" so it does have the vibes of "making a groom" <_<u

[floral ore]

What were the orokin thinking when they were losing before the peace offer?

[cursive spire]

Jordas golem 2

[gilded night]

Which artifact should I get first out of zenurik, unairu, or madurai?

[woeful jacinth]

Dang, we are getting cooked