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Also, you miss out on good interactions too
i guess, yeah, i’ve grown to be horribly shy over the last while. a hermit tenno of sorts
I kinda hate how we feel like the only Tenno in the story "Tauron academy" only student is us and a sentient that can't even use half of the stuff they teach since void kills them 😭
The two singular high schoolers in a college full of professors
The final fight felt like this lol
other players are supposed to fill the role of other Tenno
Same here , but at the same time , if there's content that you can't do on your own easily , it's not a bad thing to pop in the rando lobbies to get carried/lighten workload every so often. Saves your time and stress if it doesn't pay out, because a teammate will probly pick up slack
this.... kind of makes sense, but at the same time, not seeing other Tenno in quests is frustrating
the quest isn't multiplayer tho is it?
it's not, but you are supposed to be a speshul Tenno with extra mommy privileges
it has the 'we dream as one' bits, but that's the closest it gets
Bruh now every time I hear lullaby of the manifold I tear up now because of what happened to adis
You could summon like, ghosts
90 second buffs
gave you, or others, a buff depending on what school it was
Idk what they di- ah
Is that like a proper thing that can be done in Perita or does it just, not come up again
i only noticed vazarin because it made the final fight difficult to control
i expected a speed buff, but not that much
doesn't come up again tmk
might be a future quest thing tho, its an interesting gimmick
someone was playing Nier
Even better then.
Did they make lenses swappable finally
hahahaha you funny
But seriously, any lens provides the same benefit
RIGHT???????
I’m disappointed that the arc of being in school didn’t last longer. Like they missed a whole chance to do a fire emblem three houses scenario.
I know like I was kinda defending that cephalon earlier like he said words but he didn't need to be killed
he insulted my fashion earlier,,,
but also Roathe is an Orokin who is absolutely not innocent in the slightest
they were never going to do that
And also may or may not be a cannibal
I feel bad for Marie and Lysol or whatever his name is
Lyon
lysol,,,,
me when i read his kimchat & saw him call a child (operator) "it" in a very dehumanizing way:
Bro's also seeing visions of the Orokin era
It’s not about never or will, I’m merely stating that the arc was quite short for being a time preview even if we had murmur hunting us.
And maybe Rell
I mean thats probably how the Orokin saw the tenno
I’d rather go back in time for our time a bit more than something like 1999
as weapons
roathe is such an orokin in a way that make me wanna punt him into the sun a la ballas death scene
it made for a good joke
true... i just didnt expect to read it given the only other blue orokin we interacted with were. actually kinda decent...?? (the entratis)
Tbf...it does make ballas calling us void devils have a bit more sense now
After raiding the academy
you're not including Ballas of all people in "blue orokin"
nah hes in a league of his own
he has no right to call us that
yeah,, both figuratively (survived the void w unimaginable powers) & literally!! (piloting a devil frame)
he's literally the worst person in all of Orokin history
So roathe just insta killed my ass. What do i do at the final floor in descendia?
but yes i do wish the quest lasted longer... just a little bit...
In lore it’s been shown the Entrati are a rare case and instead merely prideful of their work
Iirc they also scorned the “regular” orokin
its weird because Entrati himself is a real POS
Albrecht is a HP Lovecraft character
He literally has given himself a different perspective on existence and is trying to fight back against what he summoned
But he is no longer Good At Being Human
The fact that he is also no longer Good At Being Orokin doesn't help much
At least the cat's name is fine
As far as we know
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1pjuydf/was_these_2_bosses_really_that_hard_from_old_peace/ are these 2 boss really that hard?
Datolyst is a really simple fight, only hard part with Hunhunllus is aiming but that's only if you have a skill issue like me
no not really,, im just terrible at aiming + the weapons' statuses were default (no viral-heat, for example)
wow, its 1999 tank boss situation all over again
Didn't the original trailer have Dactolyst throw around aoe that had holes you had to jump through
And aiming was only an issue because it was a normal bow tbh lol
People were joking it's a dark souls boss attack
btw quick q,, are the materials for the vinquibus in the perita rebellion or descendia mode...??
🤓 but actually dark souls wouldn't have had holes
I am too used to my Nataruk shooting skyscrapers 😭
They would've expected you to iframe it
still there
I didn't get in the quest but got in the game mode
Okay then
are tehe tauron strikes focus school locked or are they usable with any school?
school locked
Hey guys I have a question. During the last part of the quest there are these warframe holograms - snowflake icon. There for remembering some ?warframe members? - what is this about? Founders? or People who were fans and died IRL? or Founders that died? or Devs that died? As always no explanation.
because the upgrades are part of the focus tree
none of the above, it's other people who played the quest
Ever heard of Drakengard or Nier?
its us!
all those games end with something similar, a message from another player
Heard yes, but never played them
Okay and the names / nicks during the ??????? ?? ?? broadcast?
Just people who did the choose your own adventure thing
Yeah they were seen as weird.
Also it was "Memories of Tau"
hmmm
The entrati family just took pride in their really important work. They also did a lot of things that made them very non-orokin
I can't wait to see if ||loid actually gets to see the family and if he tells us how it goes||
Ah okay ...
not for long
gg mission broke
killed the ships too fast a 5th one wouldnt spawn 😭
||ok i think the ending of lotus saying diffrent stuff for the quest is based for the wierd cycle on your profile not for sparing or killing the cephalon||
DE was flexing those new facial models with those expressions in the cutscenes lmao
My reaction during that scene
Frrr
so I am not the only one who noticed that
also near the beginning of the quest where that cephalon insults Adis I swear I saw my face turn angry
Hey what if Galastra was a grineer queen??
is there a captura scene for that academy in the old peace scene? that place looked so dope
this mean operator is the original? and drifter is just dreamt up by the operator after the deal
Yes, operator is the original, but drifter is an ALTERNATIVE timeline version of operator
lol no
Do you remember that new war flashback of eternalism lesson on the zariman? That explains the existence of drifter
id honestly think roathe knows more about the drifter than the drifter knows about themselves
In operators timeline he/she was rescued with the other kids and the wally's Deal included rescuing him/her
In Drifter's timeline, Wally's deal didnt include the drifter being rescued so drifter had to "create" duviri
from what i'm reading in the pc, i'm feeling thats the case also
just say they.. its faster.
I'm still learning english xd
it frfr
guys, i pressed on the interface and nothing happened (this was taken yesterday)
Or maybe Entrati knows a lot more of drifter
isnt it that or either the drifter did the deal but didnt get exploded nor get the power
so because of eternalism
operator was the original up to that point until the drifter was created by the deal made by the operator
Thats literalmy what i said
drifter didn't get the powers or get saved
"I said I'd save all of them. Never said I'd save you"
The vanguard fight feels really good
does the harrow guy talk to u? or does he just ignore everyone
Drifter was "created" the moment kid took Wally's hand
He is ignoring everyone at the moment
You have to build a relationship with Marie
do we know what he does?
Sells decorations according to the patch notes
ah ok
thats literalmy what i said
jk jk
I see...
Tell me, when you do the interrogation mission when you get put too far back and are 'Uriel' for a brief moment you then get pulled forward again. I loaded in with Excalibur still holding Uriels weapon
I think my Operator came out alright
But when i got to this part i was forrced out of my frame and couldnt even get back in to iinterrogate
Everyone's game*
So did this happen to alot of people?
No, but update came out really broken
what do i have to do? i could abort mission but will i have to do the WHOLE thing again?
No, just that mission
or will it just abort this part?
But yes you have to restart game
i hope so
what was the suit that the operator was wearing in the quest?
you can smuggle the operator into XX99 if you use fast travel
Tauron outfit
From Caliban Prime Access/Resurgance
Luckily, the Prime Vanguard frames are the next resurgence, so you’ll be able to get it if you want whenever it swaps around
tempting
I felt like this
there isn't like this area as captura right?
They said on the blog post that caliban's accessories wont be part of the resurgence
Oh
Damn
Yeahhh i want it so bad
Wait so all this is in our operators memory
Yep
I am a bit confused
Ok so how do I play the new mode?
How so
In ur navigating
Navigation, theres a second button
I'm blind
Like so the operator was on tau before
oh lmao
Not there before you click
I saw it, thanks
Apparently, yes
kinda sad how they didn't make the tauron academy a captura scene
And ballas rules the empire?
he is 1 of the 7
Yh or like a hub
Kinda, he's one of the Seven who do rule
Imagien a hub that is the academy
I want it
that area was like hella dope
I rly hope we get to explore more of Sentient society
we did destroy it tho XD
Yes!
my drifter got kinda...bad
Yh mine too
ah damn, i was relying on that.
Man I wish we could explore the academy
The proportions seem a bit off
Yh
Someone said like 20-30 mins ago that he didnt know how where we going to do missions in tau if it was a memory
I am also a bit confused too
But in 2026 with tau sistem launch it won't be a memory
Mine…needs a face lift. Or something. I don’t know what
But I want the academy
It was so cool
My old drifter
my drifter has a crazy crazy jawline
Ahh i always love to see how it was back in the orokin ages how our operators lived
It won't be a memory it's going to be tau in its current state
Yes but the orokin empire is gone
So?
And the sentient friend of ours admeris or smth is probably dead by now
Wait!???
We're going because Albrecht is going, we don't exactly know why Albrecht is going but...yeah
I never noticed that!!
Thats what i say, it's current state, i mean, after all ts that happened
He got buried at the end of the quest
She looks better here
I made a resting place for him or a memorial I suppose
Yh but why is he in our ship?
We're going with one of its machines on santum anatomica xd
Oh thought it was ing
Do
Do you think Ordis is Adis??
Nah. I made it.
No. Ordis was a mercenary back in the days
so who are you talking about here then?
No Ordis was an assassin who was made into a cephalon as a punishment. Adis is dead.
Admirs but someone here said it was there own build
I made a memorial and he thought it was added by devs
I hope we can see adis again
I got fooled
I doubt it. But his light is with us now.
Also in the trailer we saw our operator and adis in a rajiljack
No.
That never happend in the quest
The Roathe fight is so cool
Yh
What?
Oh I see also wait so this is how the old war started?
Damnit 6 levels short
When did we have a roathe fight?
Continued
no, its how it continues part way
descendia
So it is between the old war and our time in the present?
Go to hell (Descendia)
no its part of the Old War
Part of it, the old war would've ended if the treaty was completed
But with the extinction of the xenoflora and the fight between us and adis the old war was kick started
I just warped and ended up here mid cinematic somehow
this cinematic quest is so glitchy i have no idea if its wally bullshit or real
Wally sabotage
So the old war started, then a Sentient decided a flower looked tastey, Sentients gained Sentience. Old war put on pause for peace talks. Orokin destroy flowers ending any possibility for a peacefull resolution. Old war continues.\
Yeah no this is a bug
Im literally in the murmur tileset lmfao
yea basically
Did you skip the cutscene? Cause there is a part where you wake up and fight here
no the second i had to kneel down and choose a 'fellow tenno' who spawned in
I got into my operator and it forced me here randomly
Not the right objective for it
Hey all, got a question, would the Cavia have kept their voice during the Murmur invasion in the Old Peace if I got Rank 5 with the Cavia before starting the quest?
Lmao that tenno trapped if you relog it should fix
probably not
No
Oh welp
No I'm rank 5 and they didn't during the quest
Thanks
the thing with the cavia is more of a thing that would've always happened (its just bound to rank for gameplay purposes)
They don't comment on what happened after the quest though
Would have been cool as a small detail as incentive to rank them up tbh
Okay it seems to be operator focused, everytime ANY glitch happens its because i go into my operator
Lmao
so i just wont ever touch operator mode unless the cinematic wants me too i guess
Roathe is beating my ahh 🥀
ok i didnt hate ballas as much as everyone else but did he actually make them wage war for the love of the game
not the love of the game as much as he wanted to be the sole ruler.
well yeah but then there were still the six other executors
yeah & he had the casting vote for whether its gonna be war or not. on top of all that, he was already planning on betraying them all anyway...
he just didnt like sharing, apparently.
yeah actually that makes me think not all the orokin were as evil as him
there were still 3 that didnt want to genocide the sentients
dont get me wrong orokin are still really horrible but atleast there were some guys up the food chain who werent completely messed up
the high caste Orokins were. just not everyone else in the system under their rule.
idt we know why they didnt want to,, but roathe seems to be telling us That particular lore in the kimchats...?
maybe?? bc he already talked abt nitokh
im assuming nitokh was one of the ones in favour of the genocide because that was the executor that we were outright told is helping out the anarchs
but then again i havent engaged in the devils triad kim system too much yet
I KNEW WE WERE GOING TO GET URIEL
oh am I allowed to talk about the quest here btw?
I know it's spoiler chat but it's been less than 24h just want to make sure
ye
ite cool
I’m pretty sure a majority of people that can play it have. This is also the spoilers chat
spoiler tag big stuff, still the first week
When ||Adis died|| I knew we were going to go get Uriel and start wrecking shit
also: i think marie should kill roathe. just throw him down into the void.
anyone else ||obliterate daklo?||
i wanted to,, but im trying to make my tenno oc distinct from me so i let him go
Anyways, the vinqibus rocks
idk if it was a bug but in the second mission I had the Vinquibus instead of the Trumna
I did. Regret it for myself, but in-character my Tenno was in full DESTROY OROKIN mode
I assume the game got confused because during that sequence you initially don't go back far enough, and then jump further back
are there energy orbs in perita lol
I love it, I want it(the vinqibus)also
||RAP TAP TAP! let me in, little piggy.|| loved that
Said 'don't go back far enough' is ||you using Uriel and|| having the Vinquibus
it's actually deliberate for the reason you just mention
So I figure the game gets confused and forgets to switch you to your actual loadout (Trumna, Akbronco, Nikana), and just lets you keep the Vinquibus
The game isn't confused, but your memory is
So in the real real history you did use Trumna and the Nikana
Loved the first taste of it. The second taste was even better
The way I was popping off heads and hitting super accurately with the Vinquibus for no good reason felt awesome
Especially when you're ||storming Tauron Academy||
a gunblade that works!!!
Fighting ||protea prime|| and ||caliban prime|| was rather rough. Not terrible, they’re just dense
Does The Precipice give Glyphs for steel path?
i wonder how its gonna be modded...
I wonder why ||you fall asleep in Margulis' presence|| though. Says you're tired, but I don't think someone who killed dozens of people in a fit of rage would just fall asleep all of a sudden
yeaaaahhhh im confused abt that too...
Bosses with names and onscreen health bars have damage attenuation now so you have to shoot them a lot. Like... a stupid lot.
probably a Margulis power or something
Good thing the Trumna has a big magazine and decent fire rate
Because it’s based on an actual weapon, bayonets. Not exactly how one would use a bayonet realistically, but who cares?
Probably something like hypnotic suggestion
Midnight's quirk from MHA XD
Worse yet, those two guys also have their shields regenerate even when they're taking damage so sometimes you hit the shield instead of the health
Man I can see Marie with that....
260 rounds seems like a lot, but the fire rate
I still felt like it was kinda bad against those controlled warframes
In spite of that and the damage attenuation I still killed ||Caliban Prime|| before exhausting all the dialogue
I just wish Excal Prime was modded or carried over mods from Umbra or something
The commandeered Warframes are super tanky. You NEED a full build for them on SP
I occasionally swapped to the akbronco. For some reason
where the new melee mod drop
sleep on the lap of Nun GF
Using the Exalted Blade without speed buffs felt so bad lmao
I figured she did something through the somatics
I got shut out during my solo run
using Nikana was horrible
Also, was that a new stance mod or not
Nikanas are janky af in general, I'll just say it how it is
Decisive Judgment
no
It felt so weird to use it and do so little damage
idt so bc i didnt get "new" notif on it
it justs a godawful one
If any melee weapon needs a quick touch-up, it would be Nikanas, but not before Ghoulsaw
the stance mod for it was the problem
We need more attack saws
Yeah Decisive Judgement is stupid
blind justice was SO MUCH BETTER
Look I get it reverse grip is cool but I don't want to have to kiss my enemy to put him in the dirt
and we had it for like a mission
thats not decisive judgement
Oh really?
Its the otherone no one uses
reverse grip is blind justice
My bad then lmao
My Zaw nikana uses that
I’d say Nikanas need it more just because there’s only one saw
Also, not gonna lie, I’m not a big fan of bows
I want a nikana incarnon, unless one already exists
incarnon, you know the zariman thing
You'll have to specify which Nikana lmao
guys, where do I unlock the new stance mod
Nikana the weapon, Dragon Nikana, etc
Containers in Descendia.
probably the base nikana, cause I don't think they make incarnons for different variants
Yeah I know what Incarnons are. I’m mr18, I’d be surprised if I didn’t
Oh my god they changed Drifter's face too
Hallowing Spire is interesting
I'm gonna pretend he looks the same
Yeah, full remaster. My drifter’s seen better days
I thought it was just changing Operator's faces and all the hair gets modernised
my drifter is so chiseled
If I'd known they were changing the Drifter I'd have screenshotted him too
Harrowing
Anyone else glitching in SO and ESO?
For now, the hood stays up
I can't go to other zones
bruh my game glitched AGaiN
I literally have glitched in EVERY level within the cinematic
Right
My drifter is getting banished to oblivion until they give me face options that don't look like a bg3 tiefling with an overbite
this door just wont open
Bullet jump
i did
Cast 1
Or slide into it
it does nothing
dodge into it
Cast 1 and bullet jump or smth
no you dodge into it how did you guys get through the quest
By bullet jumping
aborting mission for the 5th time this cinematic quest. This might be the worst drop they have ever done and ive been here since the begining
How is it so bad? they didnt need to rush it at all
Casting 1 also works
They didn't
idk man i didnt have any issues
Same
So strange
the only issue I had is with the servers dying
i didnt even have that issue
XX99 is 1899 based on this line
Only issue I have is farming the rare resource from ptsd simulator
i was in the game perfectly fine when that tweet about servers being down went up
whats up with 99's?
They also accidentally leaked it with an older version of the new interface for KIM
Ask albrecht
Well that is kinda the end goal of our current process
I have a few bullets for him
No bullets. Just hands
From my loathsome 220% cc lex
If that's the last one i used my 4 on it
Thinking about the story for old peace it really is impeccable. Like we know it already happened and there's nothing we can do to change it, but we still feel like we can and get angry when we can't
Not even zariman or railjack?
So did Marguilus have a hand in destroying Perita?
8ball says no
What does 9ball say
Did someone just send something here?
How exactly do I charge tauron strike?
Earn focus
Either via lenses or yellow orbs
I haven't read the patch notes yet but that's what I've been noticing
Ah okay, I was trying to test it in simulacrum and was wondering why it wouldn't charge at all
also how do I get the new Syandana
Kill enemies, be in affinity range of people who kill enemies, grab convergence orbs.
anyone?
The only thing i have to say about this quest....Where the hell was Umbra? He would of held off the assault without issue.
Found it
.. why would umbra be there?
And what makes you think he could've held off the assault?
He can't even kill a orokin
Because we have Umbra and he's an independently acting Warframe.
Like physically he cannot kill a orokin
uh
he a Dax
he is at Origin system with his family
... its the past. We're reliving the past.
wrong part of the timeline
okay... i guess as a Harrow Main i kinda have ta sorta?
huh.
Thank you
i'm on about the murmur "defense" part
Do you mean the murmur assault?
Oh.
No lmfao
The murmur would beat his ass i aint gonna lie
only JUST have enough for the harrow chasis title lol
Umbra only would appear in the story after Margulis death tho
He's more emotionally vulnerable than other warframes, leaving him far more susceptible to Wally's tauntings
Ye abut they could of at least mentioned him having to "pull back" or smth.
Roathe have ability to recall how many times we killed him?
I wish his farm is longer than 2 minutes now.
I wouldn't put umbra anywhere near the indifference.
Umbra kinda just minds his business
Umbra just on the Orbiter keeping it dust free.
Would be cool if we could play komi with him
Ngl
||During the murmur invasion I was expecting the devil triad to show up for some reason||
I think Umbra has been acknowledged after The Sacrifice like, what, once I think in Jade Shadows? Even then it's just a passing mention
Jade shadows, once.
Which is a shame tbh
fine then maybe not in this quest, But the fact he hasn't shown up at all since he was released is a real missed shot
Nah we’re gonna get another Orbiter revamp with Tau and it’s gonna give us a pet room and a walking Umbra with Komi and Shawzin and animations trust
I mean
So was the old war’s
HELL OF A CONCIDENCE
Radiation that traps operators in warframes on the same place where we find alien flora that gave sentients sentience.
In the final confrontation all warframes will show up against wally don't worry
We'll do a avengers assemble on wally

Also Umbra was the LAST warframe to ever be created
Nah, the old war still had a lot of it unknown, umbra isn't like that.
What? Where'd you get that from
He was waaaaay later in time
Nothing says actual last
Actual last so far that we know at least
like just having umbra walk past us to go out on a mission as we bring back a shard during new war would of been SOMETHING
We don’t even know that
He was like. Before the betrayal, right? Were there any frames made after?
Only protoframes
I mean
Actual last would be Revenant tbh
Temple was a protoframe
Made during the New War era
So that counts.
Temple was technically made in the future to exist in the past.
Ehh
But he was never actually made just designed
They, and they were still made. Just not by Ballas.
It’s so weird their story only plays out in text like it feels lazy we could have had multiple cut scenes
Ballas did make them
Just didnt want to ever create them because they had a rebellious nature ( similar to uriel )
... ballas made the strain.
I had zero issues and I use a potato laptop in Nigeria
Ballas doesn’t make protoframes Entrati does and Entrati is the one in story who sends them to the future
Yes thats what warframes are. Strains.
Ballas did not make temple.
Yes they did lmfao
Ballas, fundamentally, did not make temple.
Temple was conceived but never made.
He explicitly never made temple.
The only warframe not designed by ballas from head to toe was Protea.
Ballas made temple prime - Entrati made temple protoframe
And revenant prime
Xaku isnt really a warframe
We don't even know if Temple prime exists
Xaku is absolutely a Warframe
Thats a huge if
Also iirc Nidus Prime is a natural evolution of Nidus
Every single frame Entrati makes a protoframe of is a frame Ballas made a prime of first
There's no guarantee.
Xaku is more a void entitiy taking control of junk
What? No???
Lavos primed himself
oh hes out of voice lines. im doing punishinig him. for now
Where'd you hear that from.
Qorvex probably was, yes. Not designed tho.
....no. that's not how Xaku is presented at all
Thats what Xaku truly is though
Qorvex wasn't designed by Ballas
No
Like at all
Qorvex was explicitly created by Albrecht
Yes, Entrati isn’t making new frames he’s just using strains that balls used to make frames but slightly altered so the host short term maintains some control but they will all eventually be consumed by the warframe
Head to toe
No, just designed.
That's pedantry
Yes i know
Where'd you get the prime part from??
Also now that I think about it, Caliban was created by Erra
All for we know Albrecht just stole the strains at random.
Easiest frame grind I’ve ever done
Nekros+steel path
And it only took 2 runs
Ballas didn't help there
Okay then everyone is getting upset over very tiny things that dont really matter. Protea and Qorvex are the only two frames that had input by anyone other than ballas that we know of.
Caliban
Erra made Caliban.
This is by far the most unsettling part of the update for me lmao do we have any idea what this stuff is or how they're using it??? The idea of trapping someone in their Warframe and then you have what's her name on the enemy comms implying that the Operators are dead or worse when dropping commandeered primes into the mission

Did Erra?
So like. Ballas didn't make every frame.
Yes
I dont remember that ever being mentioned
first time doing the recall vanguard and theyre jojo posing, insane update man 10/10
Alt helmet description
I dunno how i feel about that
having an alt helmet give such deep lore lol
It's a canon event
Oh. Yeah get used to it.
I’d imagine they met the same fate as those who’s bodies are stolen by the orokin
I never said i didnt understand it
Lines drop lore like atomic bombs so very easily.
Not Qorvex that’s specifically made by Entrati - and xaku is a lore error - in the xakus lore 3 primes go in to the void get fugged and destroyed and some how the individual consciousnesses survive coalesce and scrap together a frame it’s should be super schizophrenic
Oh you are not ready for soulsborne games
You say that like you assume i wasnt playign them before most people.
Im one of their biggest fans
Oh a souls hipster, that's annoying
No, base frames go in.
They just get primed later. Chances are The entrati family just asked Ballas to do it.
But an alt helmet giving that sort of lore in Warframe just doesnt fit as well. It is what it is i guess.
I don't know why that bothers me so much but that's existentially horrifying lmao
Not like they couldn't.
Qorvex lore explicitly says it
What's your opinion on even resources in soulframe having lore?
how the hell did I do the descendia the first time, we just got our butts kicked
Wait until you learn you need to go out of your way to learn lore for Albrecht
Alright then who else do we have?
Protea.
Qorvex.
Caliban.
Anyone else?
Revenant technically
Xaku by technicality
I dont count Xaku for obvious reasons
Where's the button to beep Wally's nose when he shows up on your Orbiter? :3
since NO ONE designed him
But xaku... still counts
Doesnt since it really wasnt 'designed' by anyone
Are the school weapons the only use for those resources?
Ballas didn't. That's all i see.
Right click, point at his head, left click
Protea is -Parvos Ballas just provides the gold
And Caliban is the Tauron academy but I could swear it originally said Era made him could be wrong
Caliban prime for Tauron
Caliban prime is at the academy.
Erra made the base
Right click doesn't seem to do anything in my Orbiter
also I lost ALL of the resources I got this is so stupid
Tauron was the prime
primes do not come first
Oh are we counting primes now?
F
Because regular Lavos primed himself
Remember that. Not all warframes start as primes.
Some Primes do come first i thought as well?
Also, reminder that base Excalibur came before Excalibur Prime.
Primes do in lore come first rebs era off story telling is really inconsistent with respect to making lore easy to understand
I’d imagine it’s because they might be conscious while being hijacked and then presumably removed from their body. It’s like being exorcised like a ghost.
Where's that varzia line
Some, not all
Base Excalibur was the first Warframe
No :)
No they don't. Some, not all.
I'm too burnt out for this rn :)
Its a mix mash
The lore is complex and often not easy to understand. Mainly because its been going on for so long
Absolutely yes
Multiple writers
Absolutely no.
But. If i dealt with doom lore, i can deal with this.
-# over 30 years now
But either way, primes were never always first
Temple for example was never made physical until Albrect used the strain to make a proto which in turn ended up becoming the temple on the battlefield.
Absolutely yes - just the reality
Base Excalibur is explicitly the first Warframe ever built
Lavos btw
Not Prime
Lavos wasn't prime first.
"Some were primed from the start, others earned it"
-varzia
Yes one of the confusing less fleshed out lores his base has more lore work then his prime does
is there a reason why we can't use tauron strike in captura?
or do i have to like spawn enemies to kill them to charge it
Primes. Are not. The first.
Sometimes they are
Side effect of how they charge up
Yes sometimes
So, you're wrong. Lavos existing proves that they were not always first.
Wording
You can't use them in captura
Unfortunately killing enemies in captura and simulacrum doesn't charge tauron strike
Nitpicking
Lavos Prime is based, only Tenno that realised they can upgrade themselves instead of having to grind relics for 30 hours
Theirs only one who claims to have made himself a prime that’s Lavos and that’s the references she’s making - lavos lore doesn’t make sense on the prime side - hence my point
Nah
damn the animations were so nice 💀
Ikr
is there a somachord for Adis song?
Incorrect - it’s my whole point
What?
THE LINE IS OLDER THAN LAVOS PRIME
The manifold one? Yes
That line is older than lavos lol
THE DENSITY
where, tell me
Wait so what was Revenants lore again. This one confuses me, he was a completely different frame by design right? then fell in the lake or something?
Hey, what drops the Red (2-dot, uncommon) mods for Artifacts?
I've got all of the White (1-dot, common) and Blue (3-dot, rare) mods, but only two of the Reds.
So again……my point
Somewhere on landscape of perita rebellion
funny
there's no way to change operator's facial expression in captura right?
peak
which one though?
A-pose
Any of them
He stuck his hand into the eidolon space and it sucked him up
He was a warden of a prison fights an eidolon before gara does he loses he dies and some how becomes a ghost?
because I only found one
We have no idea what his base model was because it no longer exists
I'd ask if there's any interesting insights on Limbo's lore other than "I exploded myself" but I know there's a not insignificant percentage of the playerbase that despises him for existing
Only the one fused with eidolon energy remains
Don’t let that Grineer prime t-pose on you
Wait so is revenant EVEN a warframe?
Don't worry, there isn't
.....yes??????
yes
This makes no sense
Revenant is just the Warden warframe but Eidolonised
He's just not the Warframe he used to be
Its random if youre looking for it I would use golden instinct or golden eye from the parallax ship
OH so I was right, he WAS designed completely different to what we know him as?
Yes he was a prime - he dies tho
Lavos proves that warframes do not always start as primes.
Temple existing proves that they do not always start as primes.
Caliban existing before Caliban prime proves they do not always start as primes.
That line from varzia proves that they do not always start as primes.
How is any of this proving that your point, that all warframes start as primes? Like genuinely.
Ballas even straight up asks who's been making Warframes without him
So then what is the Rev PRiime lore?
He calls rev prime a fatherless aberration
No variant of temple was ever made.
or is that the 'warden'?
Lavos Prime’s description says he primed himself
Rev prime was quite honestly not supposed to exist
what?
Nah i 3D printed them bruv
Revenant Prime literally and I mean actually just fell out of the ether in front of him, paradox style
Popped out the Void
oh Revenant is a Xaku prime style prime then?
No
Yeah, there was only one temple and that was Flare. High chance that the name temple doesn't even come from ballas
Isn't confirmed that rev prime were made by the unum tower from cetus ?
We don’t know, the abilities could be enhanced versions or similar, or very different, but it’s never specified
Wut
No
Every frame existed as a prime first - Temple was a ballas build frame - entrati take the strain back to 1999 and infects flair making him the protocrame temple
Lavos lore lore doesn’t make sense in the greater story because all frames start out s primes his prime lore has less work then his base lore he doesn’t even have a prime trailer
Caliban was prime before his base model - he’s in tauron
Does that imply that if we do ever get a Temple Prime that it will essentially just be Flare priming himself? That would kinda go hard not gonna lie
We knew they got batch names until produced to a certain amount
Ivara
Caliban was a normal Warframe first
Lavos lore doesn't make sense bevause you don't understand that warframes DO NOT ALWAYS START AS PRIMES.
No it'll be timey whimey stuff
Sevagoth's prime would have come after too
Caliban prime is in tauron
Yeah. Long after warframes were being made
Yes, based on Erra's Caliban
Long after caliban was made.
Incorrect it doesn’t make sense because it’s inconsistent with the warframe universe
Fam
You are just wrong dude.
Its. Its literally consistent.
Are you being intentionally dense?
You are the one that is inconsistant
What about Rhino then
Caliban prime is the first time he’s made in tau - that’s the whole point he’s built as a joint venture erra recreates him during the new war
The very first Warframe was a base Excalibur
Rhino was one of the OGs yeah
Erra built him during the OLD WAR
That mouthy guy certainly wasn’t a Prime
Didn't think this channel would turn into lore discussion lol
The helmet says so
All Warframes were made during the Old War
No it was Excalibur umbra then prime then base - the base frames are recreated using lesser materials
The Old War btw was the war that happened before the peace treaty
Erra built him in the old war. Yk. The thing before the old peace?
Umbra wasn’t first
Oh you're just trolling
I'm calling bait
Okay, blocked, nevermind
And I'm off to sleep
He was made well after the rest towards the end of the war
Umbra was made by ballas after the old peace.
okay he is trolling get him out of here
Old peace takes place during the old war …….
Stop falling for the bait guys
Report maybe
I don't have any patience for the I'm just pretending to be stupid crowd
🎣
for being a Void Lugger
Ballas planned to betray the orokin after the old peace. Which is what guess who found out about.
Void luggers ….so many
Which is why he was turned into umbra.
Old War > Old Peace > Tenno Betrayal
Anyway, has anyone found any Easter eggs in Old Peace yet
Unrelated, I hope we get a quest to play out the night of naga drums, that would be sick
I know Uriel's prex is weirdly complicated for how simple it is
I wouldn't say its in the old peace, but Lyon has loid and arthur on tbese card things
How do we NOT have a prex card folder?
how do you get it?
That’s… those are tarot cards
I didn't want to name them specifically
It is apart of someone's religion so i am reluctant to say it
I’m just saying, they’re very tarot like
We should get a Bird 3 tarot card
Parot
Bird 3 isnt a PARROT YOU FOOL
Heh
Parot
Close enough
I've heard it both ways
What happened to Bird 1 and 2?
Wat
I haven't gotten it yet myself, something about floor 21 of Descendia after a certain number of runs is what I think it is
ight
Probably no longer existent. At least as bird
word to the wise?
Dead in the bell
Tarot cards are apart of an actual religion, so i don't wanna name it as them. In case its wrong
Same as the other animals sent to the void
As for this, Lyon sees visions of the future
Reckon loid drew them/j
I did all 21 floors of f the Descendia last night
Maybe actually 
Fun fact, it seems to effect Roathe dialogue
Tbf they do not look like actual tarot cards
WHAT IS THE BASE CRIT DAMAGE OF THAT PRIME GRINEER SCYTHE?! what the helly!
and has rell's donda
So good point
So normal over this
Beautiful
Yeah, so i wasn't gonna call them that. Not until the proto-orokin language on it is translated.
Needs to be framed
Does Lyon not do anything atm? Anytime I try to talk to him nothing happens.
Would be sick if we could get an amar skin for kubrows.
Gotta talk to marie and get to liked, i think?
Also, kimulacrum is up too
No, but he will sell Tauron decorations once you rank Marie up a few times
I'm impressed how no one seems to read the stuff about lyon
According to the patch notes
Really?
What song plays when you take control of Uriel and storm the school?
Look compared to the French nun and Emet-Selch Lyon is just kinda forgettable
ty
Roses From The Abyss
Such a banger
Real
Not a problem, after you get the voice message exit KIM and come back
Most justified crashout in history
No like. It fully change conversations
There's checks when you're talking to him that determines it
Thanks kimulacrum 
This mission making me feel guilty for every sentient I have to kill in the future.
Yeah i assume it resets the number every reset
Yeah :(
this may be a dumb question, but are you supposed to be able to get back into the poolroom in the sanctum? the door opens but theres an invisible wall stopping me
I wanna visit Uranus grandpa
I just Uriel and the vinqibus
Isn’t that just the bath room?
Im pretty sure we're supposed to, but its a bug
Yeah thats the dark refractory
I think the bug is the door opening
I think its supposed to let us in as operator
lemme try
But uh. Doesn't for some reason
Maybe, but I think it's supposed to open when another flag flips
Nah we're supposed to have access by now, its just the dark refractory
wtff roathe just admitted to killing unarmed people????
Yeah
We'll see when the hotfix drops
i just wanted to see if lotus moved in there. shes not in her usual spot by the cliff
And uhh yeah? OROKIN
He's an orokin. What do you expect.
They've done far worse
Are the resources for tauron abilities in the new old peace game modes i need to know i require my bow?
Remember, killing an Orokin is a lawful good action
Such as wearing people's skin for naberus
He ||wants to help loid||
And we are doing the "noone is too bad for redemption" bullshit
To help Loid but it also answers the question:
Can the orokin be forgiven?
You will decide.
bull
I just enjoy killing Roathe
If you don't mess up
Though what im curious about is what the thermometer thing means.
Technically, we're helping because it's an Albrecht project
What need does a devil have for forgiveness when hell is a lie spun by madmen
Drifter was friends with Albrecht
Drifter doesn’t remember being friends with Albrecht
So helping his projects is... Well, not a given, but something they're inclined to do
Looks like ai brain fart
ewwww
The tank being equivalent to descendia is weird
he shot us in the face
did Old Peace update release a new player hub/relay?
vibes? or vibes? 💜
It released a menu hub
XX99
yes :3
ahh that one. alright, cheers!
lol one of them is significantly easier than the other LOL
Daklo’s a bigot
21 floors or the tank?
I just realized...the wolf we see in The Old Peace might be ARCHON AMAR!?
is that why people are mentioning amar
might be? it is
I didnt even connect the dots until now! XD
Do you. Have eyes? Ears?
The dots of adis calling him amar and him being a wolf
Im a bit slow okay? I saw big wolf and my only thought was "he would be cool as a companion :D"
is the tank boss hard?
much harder
like its one of the driving factors behind the attenuation changes
The tank is already a pain normally, and they made a stronger version
Has anyone encountered Kullervo on the Descendia yet?
tbf I didn't really notice it either so
I fear the tank
mostly because I wasn't really thinking of the Archon
Nah really
remember there is so much lore in this game its hard to keep it all in your head
has anyone found the Manifold Somachord
Now im questioning what did Boreal and Nira looked like before they became archons
You challenge me?
Yes
WHERE
where is it
Hehehehe
I need it
DAMN lmao
Sharezies
I will turn you into scrap if you don't tell us
XD
the best part is you get chemistry for that line
Yup
It's in a "hallway" tile behind a waterfall off to the side of the main path
yeah, think we're gonna get along well lol
Use loot radar, that's the only reason I found it
I saw that line and had to pick it lmao
alright my hatred of Roathe is a little less if he also hates Ballas
you hate Roathe? lol
EVERYONE hate Ballas
if he hates Ballas, he's my best friend lol not to mention he's the Devil 😄
I hate orokin so I hate roach
Ive had the fortune of foresight
he is so annoying, and he's Orokin so
I think roathe is incredibly endearing
even despite being orokin
you will see, in time
My hatred is entirely orokin-based
Real
tbf, I never got along with Quincy at first
so you hate the Daughter too, got it
hi, i only want show you my past 7 years fashion operator ;3
but now? I'd 100% go to a bar with them or a nightclub lol
Isn’t it supposed to be the Tenno cuz am pretty sure we stick a sword inside him in the sacrifice
I'm scared of her and why did you specify her
Anyone know what song plays when we finally use Uriel in the quest? Im attempting to find it and I haven't found it
we're still the reason regardless lol
Roses from the abyss
the entrati family is different
Somehow that was the one that I thought it was just didn't realize it was the song, thanks twin
my new Drifter
whenever ballas appears:
Not that different but different enough to be tolerated
compared to my Operator
Nah everyone in there are insane beside Daughter who only slightly racist for a few second
dude, he got off so easily after I had beaten the Old Peace quest
What the
what?
from what I know the entrati family is not all high and mighty like the rest of the orokin
Tauron strike use grimmoire instead of big sword
Daughter is the least sane I assure you
I wonder why?
Zenurik
what did she do?
Your operator looks like they couldn't decide on a specific style or smth
is anyone else having issues with FF getting reset?
Have you heard her fish cutting lines
hope the indifference uses his body as a boss so we can get a free punching bag
all my other Drifter outfits have been reset back to the Drifter suti
he's not that stupid, surely lol
have you heard Mother use the shard to cut Father hand just because?
yeah, "least sane"
Because trauma and him triggering it yeah
yeah the dead man got it off easy
you know the man who is currently dead
have you heard Grandmother disable the Heart just to make the family "united" and risk the whole system go to Dark Age 2.0?
I wanna murder him again lol
fair enough
That's not insane that's excessive
redid my other outfits and man I really like the changes lol
Ranoru kaelli isn't real you don't have to defend her honor
so doing EXPERIMENT, on a INFESTED FISH is nut, but bring the Grey Strain into the house isn't.
Son brought infested in to give father something to kill
excuse excuse
Daughter "enjoys" cutting open fish.
Facts, facts
can you show me the exact location
A little too much
Yes that was the reason for the quotations and italics
Anyone here know what the pink crystal thing does in the Perita Rebellion missions?
how many hallway tiles have a waterfall
Surprisingly few
Has anyone tried redoing Descendia after finishing a run? Whet rewards do you get? Just resources?
Or Roathe/weapon parts too?
crap
what if you just played perita like a 12min survival mission 
Oh you can just run the Roathe fight
Wdym crap, that makes it easier to track down
Get loot radar, look for waterfall while checking minimap
enemies in perita don't drop any health or energy orbs like they're so rare lol
does anybody know how to get by descendia without getting blasted off the face of the tower 😭