spoiler-chat

[astral hare]

By basic I mean that I have most basic mods maxed, but I don't own any rare mods that would replace them. As an example, I use +90% toxic mod instead of recommended in mid game builds mod that has +60% toxic +60% status chance and so on

[balmy storm]

You’ll be fine I think

Quest-wise things aren’t too difficult

[flat tree]

What is your average mission level you can take on

[balmy storm]

I think most puzzles are more difficult

[astral hare]

I've cleared solo those highest void missions that are said to be 40-45 or something like that with my Gauss Prime

[undone lodge]

IIRC DE said they were nerfing the RJ section to be doable with base at some point

[astral hare]

Using Broken War with basic mods maxed and Braton Prime with 8 basic mods maxed thanks to 4 forma

[flat tree]

Well then you are fine but if you want to take on some post new war content like A.E's basement then I would suggest going up a bit more but you can safely play the new war as it is

But to get a story refresher you may want to do a few things like do the Ropalyst boss fight, Refresh yourself on a few plot threads and AVOID THE WIKI

[astral hare]

Btw, do all locking quests give prompt warning like War Within did?

[flat tree]

Only the long long ones

that do lock you out

so yes [i read that wrong]

[balmy storm]

Yes, any that lock you out let you know before you go in

If it locks you in then you better lock in for the quest

[flat tree]

Just to note @astral hare , have you done the Duviri Paradox yet?

[astral hare]

Thanks. That's comforting news. Yes, I've done Durivi Paradox quest, but never went back to that mode. It felt strange to be forced to play different game for 2 hours.

[balmy storm]

Return to it at some point

[flat tree]

You should be good then, just do some story refreshers ||[AND ROPALYST]||, get a good time slot and have fun

[astral hare]

Thanks.

[solid otter]

[balmy storm]

Fyi you’ll have an optional to read through story recap in Whispers

[flat tree]

Baruuk would be so nice if I didn't need to grind minerals for him 🥀

[zenith jacinth]

Prime:

[flat tree]

He somewhat expensive 🥀

[balmy badger]

I'm pretty sure that has already been implemented.

[zenith jacinth]

Get farmin

You can't play warframe and not expect to have to farm

[flat tree]

I'm a market cheapskate

if its not under 40 plat then I'm not buying it

[zenith jacinth]

Then MINE

And CRAFT

[flat tree]

Advertisement image

[warm anvil]

ooh, where did u see the ad

[flat tree]

-# Reddit

[warm anvil]

nvm it's also on their website

[flat tree]

But yeah

LOL

[warm anvil]

im first on my screen

mwahaha

[flat tree]

So does this mean Dex Malleus are canon?

I always thought they were just some romantaized version from the stories but it seems that the Dax here will be resuing some parts of the Thrax Dax

[warm anvil]

discord loves shitting on the quality of an image

[flat tree]

its more or less the same idle animation

[echo basalt]

Makes sense for there to be heavy units of dax + dagath lore confirms calvary Dax I think

[barren trench]

I swiped 🥀

[flat tree]

I know but it's sort of strange? I can get swords for dax due to how agile they are but for a heavy unit with a melee hammer?

Also it appears that only one Dax here uses a ranged weapon?

We know Dax used guns and weren't all Samurai but it's still strange that even in the old war without the Duviri romanticized version they're still mainly using hammers and swords

[rain otter]

I mean these are both Dax

[warm anvil]

ye

[amber terrace]

Do we think we’re gonna get an ARG for Old Peace that’s on par with the madness of the 1999 ARG?

[cerulean kiln]

No

[amber terrace]

Unfortunate

[warm anvil]

for Tau, im hoping. for old peace, it's way too late for that

[undone lodge]

We’ve reached the point were we got the last ARG and still nothing, so it’s unlikely

[warm anvil]

have u seen the zariman one? that was was literally insane

[amber terrace]

Say,,, are there any secrets in the Old Peace page of the Warframe website?

[undone lodge]

What do y’all think a Tau ARG’d be like?

[amber terrace]

Unfortunately I didn’t participate in that one

[warm anvil]

check out argrakata or the orokin archives site

it was like 10x harder than the 1999 one

[thick jolt]

Praise be fog

[tight pagoda]

Decoding sentient messages, maybe some stuff with Albrecht if he's heavily involved

[wicked iron]

[warm anvil]

cephalon fart

[balmy storm]

An incoming transmission

[zenith jacinth]

If it's not like the snapcube eggman speech I don't want it

A family friendly version ofc

[flat tree]

"I've come to make an announcement, the Orokin are void lugger muckers. They pissed on the origin system and said they're "The Golden Lords'" so I'm making a callout post from Tau."

[night grail]

No

Considering it releases in like, 2 weeks-ish

But also the update itself doesnt really lend itself to an ARG

Tau 2026? Maybe. I could see cryptic signals being sent from Tau being sent and people going "oh shit" because nobody has heard from it in forever

[tight pagoda]

The pre-TennoCon lullaby teasers were pretty good at engaging the community though

Some good discussions overall

[night grail]

I did love the mystique of it and the prospect of piecing together new music

But the tennocon 2023 teasers I still love a lot

[pastel pasture]

why would anyone ever reply that?

[solid otter]

To be a mean mf ig

[celest hollow]

Thanks to eternalism, there's people that chose that option

im joking

[tight pagoda]

It's actually helpful

She appreciates the intellectual puzzle (but no chemistry increase)

Not that chemistry matters for Kaya

[fervent anchor]

Because they're like me and have autism. Therefore losing the ability to abide by social rules 😂

[hearty pendant]

avoid every chemistry increase and softlock yourself out of either ending
-# don't think that's actually possible but it'd be funny

[celest hollow]

Rell?

[fervent anchor]

Yes. Rell too would've been factual to the point of appearing blunt and mean.

[tight pagoda]

Well the options are "Here's what it is" and "Figure it out yourself", it's intentionally a bit ruder

[fervent anchor]

I mean....technically speaking they did explain it. Literalism and example based explanations are fairly common in neurodivergent communication. It may be rude to conventional social rules. But to us it's just naturally how we talk. And have always talked.

[zenith jacinth]

Eeeeeeh

The nicer option also explains it

There's being direct and then there's just being mean for the sake of it

[fervent anchor]

I am... not going to try and explain the point further because I have lived through how it ends 🙃

[zenith jacinth]

You're talkin to another 'tism but I was taught like. The absolute basics of interacting

I still am too direct sometimes bc I was also taught to be honest which. Conflicts

[fervent anchor]

I had something for this. But apparently it had flagged words. I didn't curse or anything. But ig the bot is setup to prevent certain social interactions from happening. But yea... ima leave it here.

[gentle cape]

yeah i hate how mean spirited all of the dialogue options are w kaya, even the ones that are meant to be "nice"... like. whats up w that. why is the drifter so hostile for literally 0 reasons?

for a character hell bent on "spreading kindness", they just. turned into THE pettiest spiteful mf ever w kaya's kim chats. like. 🧍🏻‍♂️its why i dont like doing her chats.

[thick jolt]

I always read it as returning what she gave

Kaya was curt towards even a "how are you" so drifter starts having options to fire back

[gentle cape]

shes not even rude to the drifter... she just wants to know how stuff works.

[thick jolt]

Not that you have to choose the mean ones

[gentle cape]

curt, yes, but she wasnt rude. so it still doesnt make sense for drifter to be so mean & belittling even in the "nicest" options 😭😭

[thick jolt]

That's the thing

Most people drifter included apparently don't exactly take well to how she worded things or how she doesnt care about what drifter thought and only the results she wanted

[gentle cape]

really...? bc i didnt mind it 🧍🏻‍♂️

[thick jolt]

Like granted when we get to know her we find out where she comes from

But she starts on quite a rough foot

[tight pagoda]

KOLTrial_5115
Hi. Can everybody time travel, or just you?
Drifter
Hello? Kaya? How is your day.
KOLTrial_5115
Fine.
KOLTrial_5115
So. Just you?

The first message

[gentle cape]

ig im more understanding of ppl's situations then,,

[thick jolt]

Well that's the issue in the beginning she doesnt give us a situation to understand

[gentle cape]

yeah that doesnt strike as rude or mean or anything,, just very sudden & hurried.

[thick jolt]

Again that clears up later, but in the beginning....

[hearty pendant]

its far easier to sympathize w/ her when you know her backstory n such
the first impression is that she's somewhat rude and dismissive, some aren't willing to sit through that to get to the better convos

[gentle cape]

like. in that first message, she clearly just wants an answer in a hurry. she wasnt being mean about it. just impatient.

[thick jolt]

Like her (justifiably so) stance in the beginning is "dont care about what you think or want to know just give me my answers"

Like not exactly the best way to ask for favors (or answers really)

And again you can work through those as you advance the conversations

[gentle cape]

hmmm,, yeah maybe knowing all of that recontextualized stuff for me

actually. since 1999 is looping, i wish the dialogues would change w each loop — i know theyre adding new ones but i meant when choosing the "forget" option.

just a thought,, i think itd be interesting to see the reactions.

[thick jolt]

Yeah it could be very interesting

We can only hope the writing and coding team have enough spare time for that

[celest hollow]

i think that'd kill the loggers at the kimulacrum, yk the guys that record the dialogue and their outcomes

[gentle cape]

someone else can always pick up the work...? a separate site maybe??

[hearty pendant]

i think they were just accessing files previously
though something with the new system for the triad will mess up what they were doing before

[fervent anchor]

One shouldn't mistake politeness for kindness. The drifter doesn't want to see what was done to him passed onto anyone else. But he remembers all of what Duviri taught him and isn't going to act like some righteous paragon when someone's being detrimental to themselves or others

Remember Mathilas joy?

[gentle cape]

its been a while since ive done lone story... or paid any attention to the emotions in experience

the thing is tho,, drifter didnt know if kaya was being detrimental or not.

[fervent anchor]

Well if you refresh yourself things might make more sense. "A man who has walked through and out of hell remembers every stone. Both the ones that scorched his bare feet. And those that offered respite."

[fervent anchor]

I would also like to note the cannonical propensity for drifter to be a snarky and cynical little turd at the best of times

[tame canopy]

This reminds me of a tumblr post screenshotting patch notes from DE advising players not to be terrible if you want a good relationship with them lol

[warm anvil]

I half-assed the second round of the proto frame convos and got the good ending. idk how people are failing 😭

like just respond with the normal option or match the vibe

[tight pagoda]

Kaya's almost impossible to fail unless you try

[hearty pendant]

she has one check that you can fail and its just mentioning argon or not
yes, there are two checks, but the other one is set at the end of a convo regardless of choices in it

[tight pagoda]

And with the Argon one, you have like 3 chances to get the question right

[tame canopy]

hell yeah 3 BUILT FORMAS AND AN ARCHON SHARD

😭 I can get to using these for crafting

[hearty pendant]

nice

• a random shedu receiver lmao

[tame canopy]

yeah it's neat, too bad Im missing the stock lol

wait no, I mean chassic

oh question but how the hell do I do this, I thought pressing G at certain deposits works but ti's still not increasing the count

[tight pagoda]

Needs to be loose materials

[tame canopy]

how do I farm shedu parts again?

[tight pagoda]

Killing Sentients

[tame canopy]

B RU H

[tight pagoda]

I got my parts from doing the Railjack Veil missions that have the Sentient Murex as an objective

[tame canopy]

I guess it's not that hard at least, just shoot from afar then mark a mod or resource

[tight pagoda]

Yep and unequip any fetch mods

[tame canopy]

oh ye that lol

[tight pagoda]

Or do it as Operator

[tame canopy]

I think I don't have any but i'll see

[echo basalt]

ah yes i remember doing that when railjack came out

[tight pagoda]

It's on your companion

[tame canopy]

💀 I haven't unlocked all the rj nodes yet

been lazy w it
heard glast got a 60% magnetic tenet gear this rotation

[tight pagoda]

Yep, Tenet Exec

[tight pagoda]

I did it for the Caliban grind

[tame canopy]

I brought a copy at random when I first got enough keys back then w less bonus : P

[tight pagoda]

Then the next goddamn month they announced the rework with a free Caliban for logging in

[tame canopy]

So like, I guess if I manage to get exec before cycle ends, I can fuse it with the other exec? 🤔

[tight pagoda]

Yep!

Choose the old one if you've got Forma on it

[tame canopy]

beside increasing the elemental bonus, what does valence fusion do for weapons?

[tight pagoda]

But the bonus is maxed at 60%

[tame canopy]

cuz I know for rj parts it increases bonuses and base stats

[tight pagoda]

Changes the element too, if they have different elements

[tame canopy]

mine is impact 25%

[tight pagoda]

With Element Vices in 1999 it's not really a thing anymore

[tame canopy]

💀

[tight pagoda]

Yeah so if you like Impact, you can make the new one Impact 60%

Or install a vice on it to freely change it

[tame canopy]

oh yeah that's a good idea lol

I guess since 1999 gave us vice, you basically don't need to buy extras to fuse for different elements?

[wild wind]

I can just give you the part you need

[tame canopy]

wait really?

[wild wind]

I have like half a dozen of everything

And Shedu's cool

[tame canopy]

:0

[wild wind]

give me a minute to log on

[tame canopy]

I would love that (and whatever you have in your storage lol)

[hearty pendant]

one of 2.5 arm cannons in the game,,

[tame canopy]

🤣 🤣

[wild wind]

and the worst of them! By a lot!

But

It's SO COOL

[tame canopy]

yknow the annoying part w keys farming is the need to do it w axi relics

on veil proxima

[balmy storm]

If we count secondaries we have like
1-2 more I think

[tame canopy]

I don't have that many relics of that type to farm 👁️

[tight pagoda]

Buy relic packs!

From syndicates and Teshin, not for Plat

[tame canopy]

so that's their use cases, huh

I didn't thought about that, cuz I was hoping to save it to clear shop of oher shtuff like glyphs and mods mayve

[flat tree]

I forgot Suda sells good weapons so I bought a ton of relic packs to just burn rep before I realized a day later that "Oh wait, I need the synoid gammacor since its gammacor incarnon week" and it was too late

[tight pagoda]

For me I first buy the weapons, then the capturas, then any mods I know of, then just spend them all on Relic packs or Vosfor caches, until I learn of another augment mod I need

[wild wind]

@tame canopy in game name?

[tame canopy]

CompetitivelyViewing#932

[tight pagoda]

I'm actually planning on leaving the Steel Meridian and Cephalon Suda, as I've got buddies with those syndicates anyways, but we're all missing the New Loka and the Perrin Sequence, so I've been bulk buying the mods of SM and CS

[tame canopy]

Thanks for the trade pal! @wild wind

[wild wind]

no problem

[tame canopy]

ball ass

oh my god bruh another ballas classic

this mofo dipping his hands in making things worse for everyone

[wild wind]

Revive him so we can shoot him again

[cerulean kiln]

You didn’t shoot him the first time for there to be an again

[flat tree]

"My wife doesn't love me after I did all of that horrible stuff, I'm going to destroy the entire origin system to screw off to Tau."

[balmy storm]

Wasn’t even his wife but a robot mimicking her that he programmed

Margulis never left him
But the robot modeled after her did lmao

[hasty depot]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-space-marines-astartes-warhammer-gif-18849638

[tame canopy]

Ballas really be haunting the narrative since the start

[balmy badger]

The majority of the Origin System's problems can be blamed on Ballas.
The other portion are Albrecht's fault.

[gentle cape]

& the other, other portion can be traced back to the rest of the high caste Orokin.

[remote oxide]

Ballas the bum

[thick jolt]

I mean game is called warframe and he did make the warframes

[tame canopy]

I mean his story could have also been taken a direction where he's dead and remained part of the background premise but I digress lol

I'm just hating on ballas cuz bro is responsible for the biggest case of domestic abuse in the solar system

[obtuse gyro]

while true, characters that haunt a narrative while dead usually are the best of us taken too soon etc

not ding dong the witch is dead levels of haunting

thats why Ballas and albrecht are still around

Its typically characters where you always feel their absence in the narrative

meanwhile ballas we feel his presence way too much

[fringe pond]

Ballas is funny cause like
There’s no goddamn way the Tau sentients would have welcomed him with open arms

Bro would have gotten folded before he even landed

[flat loom]

Prolly why he made the warframes to begin with

[real niche]

Well the war started before the Warframes were made

[cerulean kiln]

The war was the catalyst for the Warframes

[uncut solar]

The frame was the war for the catalyst

[flat loom]

The war is the war of frames

[zenith jacinth]

Warframe

[hearty pendant]

Warframe

[agile kayak]

Frame of war

[kindred forge]

Im doing the Second Dream quest and I really enjoy || Alad || xD also|| OH MY GOD THIS QUEST O_O ||

sorry if this is the inappropriate channel for this but i just needed to scream about this quest

[balmy storm]

Its a peak quest

It’s 10 years old on December 3rd

[kindred forge]

||HOW METAL IS THIS SHE JUST RIPPED THE SWORD OUT OF HER BODY(pun intended? maybe?) || yes its so amazing holy shit T_T

[wild wind]

Turns out they were wrong about the Warframes. NOT just empty vessels.

[cerulean kiln]

Who’s they?

Stalker?

[hearty pendant]

hunhow's line of "just a metal puppet" is so much funnier if you have koumei equipped lmao

[zenith jacinth]

Not just that she broke the sword

I think we should get the other half as a 2h nikana

[wild wind]

Actually that'd be pretty cool

[zenith jacinth]

Imagine it
completes tsd
"Yo operator here's the two halves of that sword use 'em if you want"

OR

Make it change with stances like the split sword

[wild wind]

See, I want that for future Sentient melee weapons

[zenith jacinth]

Default is the short and it can be changed to 2h nikana or dual nikana

[wild wind]

War? Dual swords.

[cerulean kiln]

Dual War

[zenith jacinth]

We need more dual nikana

[wild wind]

Heavy scythe that can also be a blade-and-whip

[zenith jacinth]

The war pieces are curved enough to justify it

[wild wind]

Also while we're on the subject, War should do Tau damage

[zenith jacinth]

Honestly yeah

[cerulean kiln]

Nataruk should do Tau Damage

[zenith jacinth]

Should be added without changing its current damage values so it's a bit more viable

[wild wind]

I'm fine with Nataruk not

[zenith jacinth]

War and broken war have kinda low base dmg

[wild wind]

But War was made from a living Sentient

[cerulean kiln]

So was Nataruk

[wild wind]

Nataruk was made from dead, no?

[hearty pendant]

Nataruk was gifted with the purpose of killing the archons, makes a little more sense to not do Tau damage

[wild wind]

Hunhow's gift, carved from the bones of his kin. Shots can be charged and held; release them just before the full charge for maximum effect.

Dead sentients, presumably

[cerulean kiln]

Bones of Kin doesn’t really confirm actually dead

[zenith jacinth]

Uh

[wild wind]

But actually a max charge either resetting resistances or inflicting tau status would make sense

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah why does nataruk not reset resistances, other sentient weapons do

[wild wind]

but yeah "bones of Sentients" comes up a few times and usually refers to dead ones

Lotus: "Yes. This is it – a fragment of… of my father, destroyed in the Old War. I can use it to see him."```

Huh I always thought this dialogue was in Natah, but

Hunhow: "Natah, you trust this Orokin blood who would chisel weapons from our bones?"

[zenith jacinth]

I like how chill or scared alad is when cooperating with us, it's funny

[wild wind]

His Profit Senses are tingling

[zenith jacinth]

(They're wrong)

[wild wind]

VERY wrong, but that's par for Alad course

[zenith jacinth]

That's what the v stands for

[wild wind]

I do like that Natah gets him again later with the Partnership

[wild wind]

Alad V(anquished)

Thinking about it, now that DE's working with Sumo Digital semi-regularly, they could possibly farm out some old events to be remade into quests

[hearty pendant]

i'd hope so
the current build-up to the new war is 3 cutscenes
if there's any events that should be made into quests, its those ones

[wild wind]

Not all of them, but Shadow Debt, False Profit, Tubemen, Mutalist?

Oh god yeah, Scarlet Spear and Orphix Venom

[hearty pendant]

could probably work in a more lore-friendly way for the loaner necramech to exist
while also providing a pretty good reason to want a better one for orphix

[flat tree]

Add some kind of side quest in between for Orphix Venom

Cause Orphix missions are so weird without knowing the background

"Yeah Corpus are doing some shit with the sentients, and also fathers here"

[celest hollow]

i miss scarlet spear and orphix venom -_-

[wild wind]

I think that could work as a post-mission email: "Father here, good work on Jupiter. Don't let your guard down though, getting similar readings off-planet. Might need a railjack to get at those ones. Daddy out."

[hearty pendant]

exact wording, no changes

[wild wind]

He NEEDS uncool 90s dad energy

[zealous wagon]

I mean, Father kind of already hints around the edges that he’s involved with that mission type, during his interactions in the Necralisk, right?

[solid otter]

Im so sorry what

Why are we ignoring the last part 😭

[hearty pendant]

i wasn't

[wild wind]

Who's ignoring it?

It's 90s dad power

[zealous wagon]

The Jupiter connection is still there, but the pattern matching aspect of the special Gas City rooms got messed up with the Undermind release (or soon thereafter). You can still do the unlock sequence, as before, but only reliably via YouTube or someone with the order memorized.

[wild wind]

Oh I did notice that

[celest hollow]

that was NOT zephyr 🌬️

[wild wind]

yeah they messed with the locker textures

[hearty pendant]

not really? there's separate lines for orphix venom related things that aren't used currently tmk
there's hints of being prepared and general necramech mentions, but that's it afaik

[zenith jacinth]

What about it

[zealous wagon]

I could be wrong, but I think he recently said something about Orphix Venom to me. I know he definitely did, as recently as a few months ago. But, my short term recollection might be faulty, and those line might have been cut out.

[tame canopy]

now that you brought it up that's even funnier lol, the tau sentients are still present lmao

They would have his ass ejected to space before he even touches any planets

[half light]

does he look like that bc DE is not good at animating faces or because he's not completely sane ?

[celest hollow]

2nd one?

he isn't the uhhhhh nicest

[eternal flume]

Its fairly recent so maybe 2

[celest hollow]

he's sane but like homicidal religious fanatic

[tight pagoda]

There's a weird bug with eyelids recently I think

Lidless eyes

[half light]

😦

[celest hollow]

The Lidless Eye turns its gaze towards us.

[flat tree]

canon bug

he's like on the verge of a breakdown every transmission

[gentle cape]

"SHOOOT THEMMMMM UNTIL!!! THEY!!! STAY!!!! DEADDDDDDDUH!!!!!!!"

that transmission is so funny every time i hear it

[tight pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-2025-movie-film-james-gunn-gif-15636733117758661899

Same vibes as "my envy is a calling"

[flat tree]

"Hex, I keep kicking you **OVER ** and **OVER ** again like a big, dumb, dead horse and you **DON'T **learn and I'm tired! I'M SO! TIRED!! Stormfall, please! Save me the bother."

[tame canopy]

yeah it's probably 2 he's constantly tweaking cuz the hex persists despite his efforts like a cockroach lol

[solid otter]

Oh neat you can see his lip piercings here

[solid otter]

https://x.com/antihuntres/status/1993091560209256640

Reckon there's a bug?

Cheeto (@antihuntres)

GET YO FUCKING DOG BITCH! T-T

X · Nov 24, 2025, 10:57 PM

[south fable]

Hes baby girl I can make him worse

[tight pagoda]

Yeah I can't quite put my finger on it but I think there might be a bug with eyelids

[undone lodge]

Dog Satan couldn’t make this man worse

It only goes up from here

[south fable]

You doubt me

[flat loom]

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-ellen-hutter-wolf-meme-jjongvillee-gif-8708095632783399513

[shadow forum]

I have a interesting question, so when the old peace comes and sanctum anatomica will get changed everything, will wally and lotus still be in the same area or it will be changed.

[hearty pendant]

we only know of the portal to the triad being added
probably not going to change anything regarding the great indifference section of the sanctum

[balmy storm]

I don’t see why it would change, Wally isn’t going anywhere and Mom still has to help how she can

She might move post quest but we’ll see, it depends if the memory bath room is explorable or just for the quest

[shadow forum]

Hm it's explorable weekly runs.

As we saw there.

[balmy storm]

No I mean the actual room with the bathtub :p

Not the Perita Rebellion or the Descendia

[shadow forum]

maybe this Friday we will see how it will work for us all.

The heaven fight dream

[balmy storm]

In theory we’ll have at most 4 new “areas”
At least 3 are confirmed explorable (xx99, Descendia, Old Peace era Tau)

[flat tree]

We all tuning into 191

[balmy storm]

No way they don’t mention the second dream’s 10th anniversary btw

If they’re ready enough it will probably release then

[solid otter]

Nah im pretty sure that's where we choose to go into the rebellion/descendia, at least that's what it looked like. We looked to be in the pool

[hearty pendant]

the dark refractory is the pool, yeah
don't remember if its just an option from the navigation console or if they said it'll have a spot in the sanctum too

[solid otter]

Hoping its past the doors we can't use in the sanctum

I also hope that Loid gets moved post quest into there, but that one is unlikely

[flat tree]

“Look the Cavia can handle themselves, I'm with my French folk now.”

[cerulean kiln]

Are you guessing left or right?

I’m guessing it is both doors with a thing sort of like in relays

[uncut solar]

One room has Loid, another has Teshin

The rooms change every time

[cerulean kiln]

Actually
Could one room have the triad and the other is the bath?

[solid otter]

Yeah, both is what im thinking. Though, that would mean the room is kinda big

[solid otter]

"My french folk" as if loid is French 😭

[flat tree]

He finds them interesting

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051425900522115074/1309972169261842493/togif.gif

[solid otter]

Like bugs lmao

Chat, is it malicious of me to want the triad to be locked behind both r5 hex and r5 cavia

[flat tree]

Yes

Hex I can get

But cavia💔

[solid otter]

The triad aren't directly related or even in the same spot as the hex, so that's why i think it should be cavia

[uncut solar]

I'd say rank 3 of Cavia is enough

[solid otter]

Nah

R3 cavia doesn't complete their story, i feel like it would be better to complete that first

Iirc thats the one where they start dying, or maybe thats 4?

[flat tree]

Dang it I knew I should've ranked up Cavia before entering spoiler chat

[solid otter]

oh my god 😭

I aint even sorry about that one, its spoiler chat what do you expect

But uh, nah, thats r4

R3 is where tagfer tries to kill Fibonacci

[uncut solar]

It's not what you expect from reading it

[flat tree]

I know

I played myself

I think this is what the they call self sabatoge

[solid otter]

Yuppers

[flat tree]

Well eh

Hate voca grinding

[solid otter]

I liked it, did it a lot when grinding Albrecht's notes

[flat tree]

It's not bad, but

WHY?
WHY ARE THEY SO INCONSPICUOUS?

[solid otter]

They make noise wdym 😭

Id argue void angel feathers or whatever they're called are harder

[flat tree]

Those have skittergirl

[solid otter]

Voca only spawn in set spots iirc, once you remember them it gets easier

[night grail]

They literally go "aaaaaaaaaaaaa"

[flat tree]

I can't hear it over the sound of the necramechs beating my ass

[solid otter]

Also

The humble parallax air support

[flat tree]

Zariman tile set

[solid otter]

Voca spawn in areas that are odd, but you usually pass them anyways

Also, just do bounties 😭

Speaking of

I need to go grind fortuna bounties

[flat tree]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-mad-floppa-floppa-bingus-cat-gif-23008714

No

[solid otter]

This is your own punishment smh

[flat tree]

I know

I am lazy

[echo basalt]

Why in need of standing for relics?

[solid otter]

Nah, just wanna get to r5 lmao

Iirc im at like.. 89,000 or something, and i still have all my daily standing

[echo basalt]

really you havent done that yet, vent kids i expect but the main faction really?

[solid otter]

Got busy grinding other, currently more relevant factions

Hex, Cavia, Holdfasts, Entrati, Quills

[balmy storm]

I know
You either didn’t read what I said or I spoke incorrectly
I’m saying we have 3-4 new areas to explore
4 areas in the quest and in the triad, 3 are known to be explorable, the 4th is the memory bath room

[undone lodge]

I mean I don’t see why we wouldn’t be able to.

Like, unless the whole sequence of events using it is within cutscene we’re going to have to go to/enter that area

[flat loom]

Whenever she comes around to fw everyone, it's the most immersive panic attack you'll ever get in a game

The slow tunnel vision to darkness in certain rooms adds to it

[solid otter]

Shout out to all the artists who thought Roathe had black hair

[tight pagoda]

Well, he can

[north terrace]

I appreciate you

[flat loom]

Roathe's other arm ain't long

First time DE didn't go asymmetrical

[solid otter]

I know and its mildly annoying

[fading current]

He’ll def have a lore reason why

[tight pagoda]

Yeah, probably a chat

[rain dew]

also y’know, he has to function gameplay-wise as a warframe

though it would be funny to see how they would make the one long arm work with other frame animation sets

[open vault]

Interesting that he doesnt have full blue skin, maybe because of the helminth infusion?

[tight pagoda]

There's shades

[solid otter]

... he has pink on his ears, like most people? Nihil was the same iirc

Nihil has it more faintly, but i swear its on his cheekbones

Also, its likely just blood vessles being close to the surface

[rain otter]

I mean the blue isn't Natural.

[solid otter]

Their blood is still red afaik so the blood vessles close to the skin will turn it pink/red

Which is surprisingly annoying to draw without it going ourple.

[balmy storm]

Albrecht

[solid otter]

Yeah probably

Something something helminth strain bending bodies to its will

[zenith jacinth]

It is still red

[solid otter]

Oh good

[tight pagoda]

Refacia is just the skin I think

[zenith jacinth]

We've seen orokin bleed

[solid otter]

Painting where the skin should be pink on a orokin is hard. Oh you wanted a normal red? WRONG. PURPLE OR MUD.

[zenith jacinth]

Ballas

[solid otter]

Pre-Narmer Ballas is like. The one orokin model we have that is just the same blue grey

[tight pagoda]

I know it's not the focus but I'd love for Old Peace to include some Orokin

But I have a feeling the Haughty Ones never set foot on Tau

[zenith jacinth]

Ballas is there

Indirectly

[tight pagoda]

Yep, I just meant in person NPCs to interact with

But even that glimpse of Ballas at what's probably his peak is nice

[solid otter]

I just wanna know the last... 2? Executors?

[zenith jacinth]

peak narcissism

[tight pagoda]

Narcissus Prime

[solid otter]

Aint that a node somewhere

[zenith jacinth]

Ngl an orokin seven called narcissus who's the most selfless of them all would be hilarious

[solid otter]

.... you know how i was gonna make a orokin oc yeah-

[zenith jacinth]

That's mine

[solid otter]

I'll fight you/j

[zenith jacinth]

I'll win

[hearty pendant]

ballas, tuvul, nihil, that one that i can never remember the name of starts with an a?, karishh?
then yea the last two

[zenith jacinth]

Avantus?

[hearty pendant]

avantus sounds right

[solid otter]

Betting Roathe was a temporary member, just as like. Haha crack theory

[zenith jacinth]

We should clone nihil twice so we can have NIHIL! NIHIL! NIHIL!

[solid otter]

I wanna see more Nihil stuff

[tight pagoda]

I want reruns of the Nightwave stuff

[solid otter]

I just wanna see him doin stuff outside the current day. Where's his mention by other orokin? No mention by the entrati?

Father mentions Ballas once or twice

Loid does too

[tight pagoda]

Nihil's mentioned in the Gara Prime trailer

In fact he's the reason she has glass powers

Because she wanted to be a Warframe, he demanded she be glassed (as in turned to a Cephalon) for her insolence

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas trolled Nihil

[opaque dove]

Bleed status procs thrice

[limpid echo]

am......am i understanding this story right???
nef want to get ride of the fungus
DESPITE THE FUNGUS LITERALLY KEEP VENUS COOLING???

[celest hollow]

Well you have to understand... Nef can't control the fungus and he doesn't like that 😡

[limpid echo]

so he literally would let venus revert back, kill everything
JUST TO GET HIS POINT?

[celest hollow]

He's doing all this because he's scared and is making a bunker under the vallis but the darn shrooms are fighting back

[limpid echo]

wow, i am just so baffeld by this lore
literally, billionaire wants to destroy a planet, simply because he cant control the thing that keeps the planet alive

[celest hollow]

Its more like the shrooms are interfering his plans and just does not care about the fate of others

[limpid echo]

i mean how much would he actually lose if venus is actually revert back, just abandond venus?

[celest hollow]

hence why he's pushing his taxmen to clear the shrooms even though the shrooms keps venus alive

Everything

[limpid echo]

BRUH

[night grail]

Yeah thats unheard of...

Totally...

[limpid echo]

more like, billionaire trying to destroy his biggest and only income

[celest hollow]

His whole thing was terraforming venus, using the solaris to keep the coolant towers pumping on the originally uninhabitable hot planet

the vox solaris quest was a reassertion of boundaries where Nef was being overbearing with his confident hold on the people and so we interfere and reestablish that Nef NEEDS the solaris

[limpid echo]

still wished we could have a nef fight and either punched him really hard and gave him a reality check

[celest hollow]

Wouldn't work

[limpid echo]

damn

[celest hollow]

Corpus Bureaucracy is too extensive and shadowy, nef would likely be replaced in less than a day

[uncut solar]

A fight where we punch him and he runs away would be funny

[celest hollow]

Treasurer fight

[undone lodge]

He doesn’t actually know

He doesn’t care about the mushrooms and the only research into them is done Nightcap, so he hasn’t actually caught on to the fact that the mushroom ecosystems are an essential part of the Venus environment

[limpid echo]

Ok? Better question is now
Would nef even listen nor believe if nightcap explains to him? Probably not, right?

[undone lodge]

If the right circumstances came around it might be possible, but yeah, he most likely wouldn’t believe it and assume it’s a trick or some kind of cover up

[limpid echo]

Well, imagine his Pikachu surprised face if he really got ride of the fungus and Venus reverting back
GG

[thick jolt]

He still has the index and his "church of the void" megachurch scheme

[limpid echo]

Fair

[thick jolt]

So not "only" no

But like he literally uses slave labor for venus and a whole scheme to keep even their children under, he literally never cared about anyone

All that matters to him is his precious bunker

[echo basalt]

its not slavery its indentured servitude

[thick jolt]

They have been refferred to as debt slaves in game

[uncut solar]

need work
need tools to work
buy tools
go into debt over tools
work to cover the debt

That's what was said ingame

Then there are others from debt bonds

[thick jolt]

Glassmaker has a corpus who mentions he was helping smuggle "debt slaves"

[uncut solar]

I mean that's what they definitely see them as

[real niche]

And, realistically, indentured servitude is just a nicer way to say slavery anyway in the contexts it's commonly used in

[thick jolt]

Even their children are already primed for it too

You think they did that neck mod on the children for free?

[dusk hemlock]

HII yall

[pastel pasture]

did 20 rounds of void cascade and didnt get the aeolak barrel

whatt have i done to merit these cruel sufferings 😢

[rain dew]

indentured servitude is just slavery with extra steps

[pearl forum]

i did,nt know that dui's are legal under narmer control

[tight pagoda]

They're all under the Influence of the veils

Can't escape a DUI

[flat loom]

I'll indenture his dentures if I see his face in fortuna, smack him with a profit taker's children

[flat loom]

GODDAMN

[celest hollow]

the artists are here 😠

[zenith jacinth]

Ok

[pastel pasture]

why iisn't it letting me activate the shock mine

[tropic venture]

Go into Command mode and activate it

[pastel pasture]

i am

[tropic venture]

IIRC. that primes it, so then you get her to hit it with her slam

been a while since I did that so might be misremembering

[pastel pasture]

this is not in a battle

[lapis seal]

be sure you actually have a brother on your team to arm it

people have a tendency to ignore the premise of the Kahl missions and just kill everything and anything that moves

[flat loom]

The owner of the video knows the artists themselves lol

[celest hollow]

apologies didn't want any kinda plagarism or smth to occur

[flat loom]

All good bub, I follow them both that's why I'm vouching

[ruby pumice]

You all seeing stuff that was not revealed in promotional pictures too?

[tropic venture]

wdym

[flat loom]

Gotta be specific man, I'm checking their ig and bluesky pages I'm not seeing anything that hasn't been revealed

[flat loom]

OH

Yooooo

[ruby pumice]

Theres another one on Youtube promotions that show a new enemy with their own weapon

@tropic venture take a look if you want

[flat loom]

I could be wrong, but didn't this weapon get shown in between gameplays?

[real niche]

I don't remember seeing it in the first big gameplay trailer for Old Peace, they just had a bow

[ruby pumice]

Prime Time you mean?

[flat loom]

Gameplay trailer or the reveal which was in tennocon(?)

[tropic venture]

Almost looks like an actual weapon in the same artistic style as the Zariman's ceremonial weapons

[tropic venture]

Tennocon gameplay showcase used Daikyu Prime and Trumna

plus Nikana Prime

[flat loom]

BRO

[flat loom]

IT'S URIEL'S

[flat loom]

I deleted my previous message

BUT IT IS BOTH A PRIMARY AND A MELEE

[ruby pumice]

It was pretty clear, no? 😅

[amber terrace]

Am I being overly whiney when I say I’m not entirely enthused about having to grind more focus stuff?

[gentle cape]

the game is grindy. thats its whole gameplay loop.

[uncut solar]

The new stuff uses a separate resource

Which you get from old peace content

[amber terrace]

So I don’t have to re lens my Saryn Prime and grind the living Hek out of ESO?

[wise solstice]

Best stream out there?

[uncut solar]

Yes

Everything is gained from resources in the update

[amber terrace]

I’m talking about the new nodes in the focus skill trees

For the new nodes in the focus skill trees, do I need to re lens my Saryn Prime and grind out ESO and/or obsess over eidolons for a couple of weeks

[uncut solar]

That's what I'm also talking about

They were going over those nodes on stream and they had material requirements rather than focus

Some prime thingy

[amber terrace]

Ah, my bad for being shitty, I wasn’t paying too close attention to the stream cuz I was super excited and couldn’t hold my attention to one place

[obtuse gyro]

ascaris prime

[uncut solar]

No focus, basically

Just materials

[obtuse gyro]

now dear nuclearbox, do you remember what an ascaris is

[amber terrace]

Oh thank the Void

[uncut solar]

Oh yeah

[amber terrace]

Again, sorry for being a bit dense/obtuse on my end

[uncut solar]

The evil worm

[uncut solar]

Well you know now

Actually they talked about it not requiring focus long before that stream

[obtuse gyro]

Thank God they kept to it

[uncut solar]

We went from being in danger from it

To now eating it in dozens

[obtuse gyro]

its the magic wormy ankle bracelet

[uncut solar]

||Just like in hit videogame Baldur's Gate 3||

Yeah I know

[stiff harbor]

one thing i realized that was not talked about: What about Tauron Academy? will it be a new Ops area, a One-off story plot point, or a Relay? i noticed that they did not talk further about it and my brain got curious since they did show it at Tennocon, but not on the Dev Stream

[obtuse gyro]

find out on dec 10

tennocon was to show you a demo of the quest

beyond that might be a spoiler for the quest

[stiff harbor]

fair enough

my brain had a moment when they did not show anything about it so i was just curious

[night grail]

Why is she huge

[stiff harbor]

why not

might be to help differentiate from Team Members

[wild wind]

What do you mean, Ember Prime just looks like that

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[hearty pendant]

wait for someone to use this to argue about 'lore accurate heights' or something

[stiff harbor]

looks at 4 ft tenno that have a size..."thing"

[fading current]

Venture back to XX99 to see Albrecht's influence in a distant alternate past! Meet three new Protoframes: Marie, Lyon, and the first Orokin Protoframe, Roathe. Visit them in La Cathédrale through the expanded KIM system and learn why Albrecht brought them all together.

Interestingggg

[idle field]

Can I use the warframe support (where you send a report) to ask a story question that I'm confused about ?

[hearty pendant]

they probably won't answer through there
also no relevant topics to send a ticket to iirc

[idle field]

Darn. Cause I wanna canon answer without the answer being speculation about it and even though channel says spoiler idk to talk about it here or not and if it'll be a true answer or speculation

[hearty pendant]

go ahead n ask
worst you can get is an educated guess

[warm anvil]

just ask here or #lore-discussion if u have any questions about the story and stuff

[idle field]

Ok so when ballas stabbed the operator and both operator and lotus fell into the void we know the drifter saved that lotus but what happen to THAT operator? Did it die and floating in the void lost forever and the operator we have now is just the same operator from another timeliness to replace that one that fell into the void?

Or are we still the exact same that fell?

[hearty pendant]

that operator relived their past for a bit then was saved by the drifter

[wild wind]

The latter

As the Sanctum PC explains, the Operator was thrown into the Zariman to relive the accident

Which is presumably how Teshin and the Lotus/'s hand ended up in Duviri eventually too

[hearty pendant]

occam's razor in this case
would be far more complex if it was one from another timeline (and that also might be conflicted by the deal scene), simpler for it to be the same
but also yes operator report says they're the same operator

[idle field]

So the operator we have is still the same that fell not just a replica of it?

[wild wind]

Correct

No void dopplegangers

[worn sinew]

ballas directly says he can't kill the operator

[hearty pendant]

well, just the one we already knew about

[idle field]

And if we could see their chest we would see the scar from being stabbed?

[wild wind]

Boy barely tried and is already out of ideas

[worn sinew]

there is no confirmation of a scar

[hearty pendant]

if there was a scar, yes

[wild wind]

No but it's more because of advanced healing/genetics

[idle field]

Oh true on the scar part

[worn sinew]

bzzt, speculation

[idle field]

I didn't know if it was actually proven jn game or not if we was the same I was confused

Thank you

[worn sinew]

it's a fairly common headcanon and a reasonable assumption but we have never - for what i should hope are obvious, obvious reasons - seen the operator undressed enough to know if there's a scar

The Tenno's personal timeline has been disrupted. Knowing he cannot kill the Tenno, Ballas has opted to imprison them within their own history. The Tenno will be unable to escape this loop without the paradoxical intervention of an outside force.
(said outside force ends up being the drifter)

[rain otter]

Oh. They get trapped in like "the void" until the Drifter gets out.

They also help the Drifter get out.

[stiff harbor]

ala 1999

[reef compass]

I am starting to feel like 10 million focus points might not be enough for the new nodes <_<

[worn sinew]

#justlittleparadoxthings

[uncut solar]

Didn't they say it won't cost focus

[wild wind]

The focus expansion looks super meaty

[uncut solar]

Preview also shown that it only costs the prime collars as a resource

[rain otter]

@idle field the Duviri quest happens like during the fade to black of the new war. Also the hand Drifter gets of lotus is what we regrow her from. It's why I think at some point we might fight like a lotus husk.

[uncut solar]

Or what's their name

[wild wind]

Isn't that for unlocking the node?

Not ranking it?

[uncut solar]

They said before that it doesn't cost focus I think

[wild wind]

Yeah I thought that was for unlocking the regalia

[reef compass]

I suppose it's a big enormous grind then of the new mode materials

[wild wind]

They said to stock up on focus

[reef compass]

...right

[rain otter]

Won't their be

New way bounds?

I might be misremebering.

[wild wind]

They didn't show any, at least

[reef compass]

and I kinda did, I got 10 million focus points on each school just now (I am not a player from the start xDu)

yeah they avoided going over any node sigh

[uncut solar]

Oh right

Shit

[worn sinew]

and then there's me, who still hasn't unlocked all the nodes yet 😔

i have all the waybinds unlocked, and i've done..... zenurik, vazarin, madurai? but the others are still in progress

[reef compass]

I like having my mode strong, but is lacking on high lv combat, it seems we might be able to fight finally once pumped up

[hearty pendant]

the madurai bow sounds incredible but didn't look very useful
but its the only school i have more than a million focus sitting around in
hmm

[reef compass]

also remember getting Astral Bond lol

might become more relevant now xD

[wild wind]

I have 8M in all the schools just from Circuit

Which sounds like a lot but really isn't

[worn sinew]

i went back and grabbed a screencap of the very brief moment where they hovered over the naramon sword unlock at marie

[wild wind]

Right, that we knew would be bought with materials

[worn sinew]

yeah, i was just curious because it was such a small glimpse in the devstream, like it was less than a second lol

[pliant saffron]

i think the boss drops

or could be those extra drops as well

[worn sinew]

interesting that both items seem to have the same name and icon. unfinished? error? who knows.

(we will, on the tenth,)

[uncut solar]

I'm sure it's just a mistake

Like the harrow prime chasis

[wild wind]

No wonder Father Lyon was smacking himself

[steep totem]

They seem slightly different to me
But maybe that's just the image quality

[reef compass]

yeah that was definitely not meant to be "prime"

[uncut solar]

They said so

[steep totem]

The icons

[uncut solar]

He knew they messed up the inventory twice and didn't want to talk about it

I hope there's a Registered Loser title

[hearty pendant]

there better be

[uncut solar]

They said there are more titles than the ones roathe was selling

I think

[reef compass]

yeah those were some special stuff

[hearty pendant]

there's a bunch related to quest completion n such that i don't think were in that menu

[worn sinew]

i'm going through and making a list right now actually lol

there's one on roathe's list that doesn't even have a resource attached

[past apex]

Focus farm for the expansion: done.
Now I have to farm the x250 Harrow chassis because I sold them yesterday. 😭
(Don’t mind her, she’s still recovering from the mushroom bounties.)

[balmy badger]

Hate to break it to you, but it requires Harrow Prime Chassis.

[wild wind]

Only 4M Unairu?

Back to the focus mine

[uncut solar]

They said it's a mistake

[balmy badger]

Oh.

[uncut solar]

It'll require harrow chasis bp iirc

You know why

[past apex]

Thank you 😱 I was cooking and didn't pay much attention

[uncut solar]

I'm more hoping I can use Registered Loser

[spark quail]

i literally sold all my harrow chassis right before the stream 😭

[balmy badger]

Make a support ticket and ask them to undo that?

[spark quail]

no it's fineeee

[uncut solar]

I will be a honest Tenno and grind it now

[spark quail]

i'm sure there are way cooler titles

[uncut solar]

Actually I won't be grinding it

I have Elden Ring modding to do

[worn sinew]

scuffed list of all the honoria we saw available from roathe and their requirements, if known

[uncut solar]

sentinel of passion

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

[worn sinew]

citrine

[uncut solar]

100 familial debt bonds is rough

[worn sinew]

yyyyyeah......

but i would do it for ticker o7

[uncut solar]

Orokin Cell is hilarious

There's no deeper meaning, sheer menacing aura of admitting that you paid 150 cells for this

[worn sinew]

i wrote em as i sees em 😔

[wild wind]

I mean, that used to be what you did when wearing the Dax armor

100 cells to fully build

[steep totem]

Finally, something to sink my Salvage stock into
I've been looking to get rid of that junk

There's actually quite a few titles here that interest me lol

[uncut solar]

There will be more than the ones listed as well

I imagine founders will get one

[past apex]

The Mad King

[worn sinew]

yeah that's why i specified it's all the ones we saw in roathe's inventory

[uncut solar]

This one is piss easy for any cascade player

[steep totem]

Kaithe Tamer of Duviri would be fairly easy for me

[past apex]

I can't see an hard one... uhm..

[uncut solar]

Some token ones are rough

100 Familial debt bonds especially

[steep totem]

The Lamenting One would have been too, but I've been feeding my Lamentus to Helminth

I didn't really have anything better to do with 700+ Lamentus...

Ah well

[past apex]

but.. sentinel of passion is an ugly name D:

no wait

ticker's angel. that's nice

[wild wind]

Well that answers that

[worn sinew]

oh my god i actually worked it out

lmaoooooooo

[uncut solar]

Getting closer and closer to homestuck

[worn sinew]

so when they initially showed off "XX99" it stood out to me that rebb mentioned that albrecht was known to marie and lyon as "cardinal dimanche"

in 1999, albrecht was known to the people of hollvania as doktor friday. both the first and last day of 1999 was a friday.

"dimanche" is french for "sunday", and the first and last day of 1899 in the gregorian calendar would have been a sunday

[worn sinew]

out of curiosity where is this from?

[wild wind]

Warframe's website

[worn sinew]

oh yeah i found it

hey wait a second this also confirms the name of warframe-france hell yes

[simple python]

What.

Wait this is warframe's discord. Hmn.

[worn sinew]

hi 👋

[simple python]

So. What the net sum information here? You saying Albrecht was in 1800s france?

I mean.... I guess? And I guess the triad get to talk to us through Loid's computer

[gentle cape]

I guess this would nail down "XX99" to 1899 specifically which is neat trivia and not much else lol

[worn sinew]

well yeah they apparently pop through into the sanctum and use the pom-2 next to loid according to previous devstream

[simple python]

Mhm.

Oh. Yeah. Computers aint that advanced tbh.

Its typewriters. Which is like writing. Easy stuff.

[worn sinew]

also 🤷 idk i was just excited to have figured out what the XX99 thing was obscuring like a month early based on minor details

[simple python]

Still though. We learning from them about their situation still right? Hopefully from one of them?

1899 ain't... too far back actually.

[past apex]

I’m only missing the reference to ‘cardinal dimanche’, and I’m too lazy to go look for it

[simple python]

We'll see... literally dec 10th huh?

They also mentioned Perita. That's Operator's Ascendia whereas Drifter's got Descendia...

[pliant saffron]

16th for operation

[simple python]

I'm just.... I'm gonna be so fr I'm trying to wrap my head around if we're getting a Tau hub world tbh.

It doesn't sound like it. But idk. Maybe its a whispers in the wall sitch.

[wild wind]

It's Descendia to contrast it with the Jade elevator game mode Ascension

[pliant saffron]

No, from what I can tell

[worn sinew]

oh, rebecca said it in devstream 190 when talking about taking the devil's triad on dates - she said marie "has much much respect for cardinal dimanche, aka entrati"

[wild wind]

Perita is completely different

[simple python]

Is it not that 12 minute match?

[wild wind]

It's a 12-minute long mission with a boss fight

[simple python]

Usually when they do these operations it uses the recent mode to get players accustomed to jt.

[wild wind]

Descendia is essentially 21 Circuit rounds

[uncut solar]

with checkpoints

[tight pagoda]

The Triad, Marie, Roathe, Lyon?

[flat tree]

I hope it gives something pretty good

[tight pagoda]

Guess we gotta add "médecin dimanche" to those titles

[amber terrace]

Sorry to ask this, I wasn’t paying too close attention to the Devstream and my memory isn’t super sharp, how do we get the focus weapons from Proto Wisp?

[wild wind]

Trade drops from Perita Rebellion

[supple dagger]

M1 garand bayonette goes hard Af I can’t wait to use it

[simple python]

Stabby stabby. Anyway it does look like while the bayonet shares blocking stance with light swords and machetes... its its own stance due to being a very unique gunblade.

It's a gunblade I keep on winning.

[zenith jacinth]

It's more like a bladegun

[tight pagoda]

Anyways seems like Adis survives the quest and remains allied with the Tenno/Orokin

unless the Perita Rebellion memories are set before the quest's ending

[wild wind]

They are afawk

[amber terrace]

I just had a terrible question

If we were to choose any frame to turn into a Proto, which would be the most likely to be a welder

[wild wind]

Caliban

[amber terrace]

Oh? I am genuinely interested how you came to that conclusion

[tight pagoda]

He's a chop shop job himself

[wild wind]

Literally his 1 is a blast of laser welding energy

[tight pagoda]

that's his 4

[wild wind]

Ah yeah blame the turkey

[lusty portal]

if Transference is an innate Tenno ability which was a byproduct of being void touched, how were some other non-Tenno people able to use it, like in the Silver Grove quest when that Infestation Biologist could use transference on herself with Titania and the forest of Earth

[uncut solar]

Transference bolt is a technology recreating the ability

Ballas used it to communicate telepathically with and order Umbra around

[lusty portal]

ah i see

wait so then why couldn’t anyone just operate the Warframes? why did it have to be the Tenno?

[real niche]

It wasn't as easy for the non-Tenno

They couldn't hold it for very long

[uncut solar]

It's seemingly indirect control with not a lot of depth

Meanwhile our transference is straight up possession

[rain dew]

biologist lady got stuck in a buncha trees

baldy could telepathy umbra

[rain otter]

I don't think that part is true.

The last part.

[rain otter]

They are seemingly.

[shadow forum]

but pronounced into a Spanish accent, I need to visit Spain one day.

[wild wind]

Spanish speakers have been laughing about the Little Dog rebellion

[edgy eagle]

y'all i'm confused- are those new artifacts gonna be equippable as actual weapons for our Operator/Drifter as well as ults?

or are they just moddable ultimates? 'cuz either i'm slow abt this or the wording confused me

[pliant saffron]

6 new arcanes for the moded mode and 5 mod slots that will probably interact with all operator and gun stats

[edgy eagle]

but what about the tektolyst artifacts? Megan literally said: **"**You are basically equipping your Operator/Drifter with a custom weapon." like were they being fr??

-# i sincerely hope they were, 'bcuz god i've been waiting for this for so long

[tight pagoda]

It sounds like they're a single ability but you can equip them regardless of focus school

But they're each tied to a school and you need to upgrade them in that tree

[edgy eagle]

I'm aware of that, but can they be used as genuine weapons for our Operators/Drifters? When she said equip did she mean equip them as ultimates or weapons?

[pliant saffron]

i do believe that those are the focus ults that she is talking about. you buy unlock fragments from proto wisp for use of those ouside of the past game mode

[tight pagoda]

Yeah it seems like they're just do one super-attack

[rain dew]

getting the artifact unlocks their use and allows for modding and arcanes (tho dunno how those will work)

[tight pagoda]

Not sure how often you can do it

[pliant saffron]

each focus tree is getting about 5 new nodes to rank up, the first in the side tree will use the fragments to unlock, the mod screen shows pretty much all the stats of the operator, gun and alt fire, and the starting ult charge

other nodes as well will need new resources in addition

[edgy eagle]

So then these are just the Amps' status?

[pliant saffron]

yes

[edgy eagle]

Okay, so then the artifacts are just ultimates... I see. v_v

[tight pagoda]

Ascaris Prime is huge lore btw

Explains why you have to fight Ember

[obtuse gyro]

...

RIGHT OF COURSE

[pliant saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/lore-gif-13932887907872853525

[obtuse gyro]

SO THATS WHAT THE ASCARIS CAN DO IF ITS FULLY CONNECTED

[tight pagoda]

We End as We Began

[pliant saffron]

me hoping theres no deus ex last mission type bs

[tight pagoda]

Could you explain what you mean?

[pliant saffron]

in one of the older games, if you keep updating your augments, the last boss can mess with them

[flat tree]

Captain Vor wasn't a dumbass.....

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1155024419849240606/1275090756494819429/Screenshot_2024-07-23-18-12-47-771_com.gif

[pliant saffron]

im dog water at remembering names of things, thanks for the story line reminder

[graceful zodiac]

Where is the Ascaris mentioned? I had to step away for most of the Ember fight

[edgy eagle]

So, (apologies for bringing this up again) when she mentioned the Operator/Drifter being able to equip a custom weapon, did she just mean we can put mods on the amp now?

[pliant saffron]

the thing removed from the first quest with vor

[echo basalt]

thank god im gonna get ahead start with madurai because i have about nearly 3.5mil in focus for it

and i already maxed out the current skill trees

[night grail]

Same

[pliant saffron]

same but i kept buying the decorations T-T

[tight pagoda]

One of the resources needed to upgrade/unlock the Focus expansions are "Ascaris Prime"

It's not stated anywhere but it's pretty obvious that killing those "Commandeered Warframes" is how you get them

[graceful zodiac]

Ok, haven't been looking at the screenshots

[echo basalt]

working on getting my last focus tree poster

[graceful zodiac]

Interesting enough

[flat tree]

I haven't maxed our Zenurik

And I've only had Zenurik

[night grail]

I have 7 million unairu

[echo basalt]

bruh

[night grail]

And ~2 million everything else except madurai

[pliant saffron]

ascarius lore spoiler

[flat tree]

Dawg it's the first quest 😭

[pliant saffron]

yuuuuup

[graceful zodiac]

If the Ascaris resource continues through then it's not an unreasonable assumption in where you get it from

[night grail]

Yeah some people haven't done that

Idk why they'd be here though

[flat tree]

We're in SPOILER CHAT

[night grail]

Yes and its funnier for that

[flat tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358277065840787468/1358478208508367119/attachment-4.gif

[pliant saffron]

you know that there is gonna be something messy that happens with us just installing a bunch of those on our operator

[night grail]

Yeah why are we using those to upgrade our focus other than gameplay

Also can we exchange those for focus?

Like with eidolon shards?

[pliant saffron]

its used as an in addition to for upgrading..... so maybe? might just be another vendor token though

[flat tree]

12 Days....

[pliant saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-out-from-well-rings-ghost-out-from-the-well-gif-18751244

[echo basalt]

12 days plus some announcemet at the vga's

[flat tree]

probably the first look at the Tau arc

Like a small teaser

[pliant saffron]

thats the day after no?

[echo basalt]

or just something soul frame related

[pliant saffron]

post old peace is gonna be rough

[flat tree]

🥀

[pliant saffron]

crossover event wouldnt be hated

[tight pagoda]

Maybe a small Lotus Eaters thingy

[tight pagoda]

So long as it's not like Destiny where seemingly they're just doing Star Wars

[echo basalt]

no especially with something like guilty gear or cyberpunk or wuwa

[tight pagoda]

Like I saw a trailer for an update or whatever and it's literally just Star Wars with lightsabers and stormtroopers and stuff

[echo basalt]

d2 renegades

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, yes its a star wars crossover. No its not "just star wars"

[flat tree]

Do not compare us with that

DE has dignity

[pliant saffron]

a temporal break where the sludge from soulframe is corrupting earths creatures

[obtuse gyro]

its a cabal group thats beat up xur and is making their own lil headway on Mars or whatever planet theyre hiding away on

[tight pagoda]

Sorry, unfamiliar with D2, but from what I saw it's an actual Star Wars quest but without using any Star Wars terminology

But there was a previous Star Wars crossover thingy with actual Star Wars cosmetics

[obtuse gyro]

Thats to build up to renegades

[flat tree]

Basically its a star wars themed D2 quest that progresses the story but also is just straight star wars

Lawless frontier with [totally not star wars] items that are just star wars tems

[tight pagoda]

I see

Lowkey it looks fun, as a Star Wars fan I'd like to play it if it wasn't for the fact it's over 100 gigs

And maybe needs a bit of progression and/or money

[amber terrace]

I just had a late night terrible idea

A batch of Proto Frames where their backgrounds are scattered throughout history and throughout the world

Styanax would be an Ancient Greek spartan, Inaros would be a Bronze Age Egyptian advisor, Hildryn would be a Viking expansion era warrior, and Ash would be a Japanese ninja

The premise would be that Albrecht was looking to have a small collective of very capable warriors, so using his Void devilry and hyper advanced Entrati tech, he skipped across Time and the Earth like a stone on a lake, posing as a deific entity, plucking various warriors throughout history and subjecting them to the Helminth and holding them in stasis in a long forgotten wing of the Sanctum, where the Indifference’s meddling has caused their stasis to hiccup and wake them up. It is the Drifter’s job to make sure to heal the major mind hurt that comes from the temporal dissonance

[pliant saffron]

You know, a cowboy, a pirate and a samurai could all be from the same time period. I think there was one other but I'm forgetting

[amber terrace]

Sorry, I just crapped out a giant wall of text, idk how to shorten it

[pliant saffron]

Victorian gentleman was the last

Limbo, mesa, hydroid, ash

[amber terrace]

What if, the Orokin records that spawned Lavos’ Leverian were modified

TL;DR what if Proto Lavos was Javi himself

Crap, that’s too many words, idk how to shorten it, I’m sorry

[pliant saffron]

I mean, lavos did basically say f it, I'll do it myself

[balmy storm]

We know what happened to Javi

[amber terrace]

REPLY TO Ducky✨
Appended Message

[balmy storm]

Problem is protos didnt exist during the Orokin era either, that’s an Albrecht original

If a proto Lavos exists it’s unlikely he would have survived let alone still be sane

[amber terrace]

What if Albrecht had the records of Javi’s execution fudged and did to Javi whatever the hell he did to Uriel’s Proto, that’s the very long version of the premise

[balmy storm]

That’s a lot of ifs

Also from what I recall what we know of Lavos’ leverian isn’t just from some records by the sole survivor

“Floor-washer Bekran Zaft, the sole survivor of Dabaoth-Kra”

It’s a neat idea but I feel it would undermine Lavos’ story by saying “psyche, that’s a lie from Albrecht, he was actually Javi”

Yeah all the accounts are from Zaft

In theory, sure they could be forged but I don’t see the point in that other than letting us meet Javi, who’s only important because of Lavos’ story? Which if that’s a lie then we just. Know nothing, or only partial truths.

[karmic elk]

The old peas are not peaceful.

[woeful patio]

Sooo...

New update gonna be 10 dec??

Right?....

[tropic venture]

yes

[woeful patio]

Long enough to get my gauss lock n load to commit war crimes again

[balmy storm]

Wake up, Tenno
It’s time to remember your warcrimes

It is
Literally about remembering trauma iirc so

[tame canopy]

They said their syndicate name...
absolute cinema

WHAT HE LOOKS NORMAL NOW

Damm I got another cutscene interacting with cavallero

[cerulean kiln]

Yes, you solved the issue

[tame canopy]

I've did it, I've made the holfasts whole

[undone lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-credits-movie-hasbro-ending-gif-4095300824521747557

[simple python]

Well one thing I need to know is why we're fighting a sentient at the end of each perita thingy.

If we're allied with the empire and the tau forces. Unless they're also helping the coup?

[tropic venture]

Each mode will have a different boss they said

why we're fighting the Hunhullus is still unclear

[simple python]

Woe, I must work Dec 10th...

Oh right. They mentioned when prime resurgence is this year?

[tropic venture]

Prime Resurgence has a timer in-game

[simple python]

I'll check when I get home I guess. Lowkey sucks I can't check resurg from mobile.

[tropic venture]

it's like 19 days left of the current Resurgence IIRC.

[simple python]

So... might be the 18th? That kinda desyncs with the Operation tbh

In my opinion at least. They specifically mentioned that this resurgence will contain the relics for the Prime Vanguard that appear in Blood of Perita

[tight pagoda]

Which is weird

Because Protea and Caliban aren't vaulted

[quick mica]

Okay I thought I saw news about Caliban going into the vault soon but can't find that article again. Actual Mandela effect.

[tropic venture]

He'll have a long time before being Vaulted

His Prime Access is ending when Gyre Prime drops, but that's it

Gauss Prime is getting Vaulted then

[quick mica]

Oh maybe it was about the prime access not vaulting

[quick mica]

Noted. I'll have to snag them soon.

[uncut solar]

He's 7th in the line for vaulting

Gonna take a while

[tropic venture]

He'll be vaulted like late 2026 or early 2027

[quick mica]

Do rotations always happen on Prime Access?

[solid otter]

... are you meaning prime resurgence?

[gentle cape]

for prime resurgence, yes.

[woeful patio]

Sooo new update will be....
Trauma review with the warcrimes child, making the CHILD remember all her traumas again, the war and losses she had to see + going to do it in a short time ....

Meanwhile the drifter...
3 new babies that can be romanced
1 the edgy lord priest
2 the crippled not very....saint nun
And
3 a orokin on steroids that has a eldritch garand.....

...

I think .. lotus has a favorite child.

[echo basalt]

which is wild given their the same person

[woeful patio]

Its like having a favorite twin

[simple python]

Dunno tbu

[simple python]

Trans allegory

[woeful patio]

Funny the fact lotus is with the child for longer time than with drifter yet, drifter is more spoiled than the child

[simple python]

Because????

[uncut solar]

bcause

i said so

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

[simple python]

I feel like I'm missing something. To me. It seems like lotus genuinely does care more for the tenno as her children.
Ik, Fork found in kitchen--
But she treats drifter as just an associate in Lotus Eaters so.

[solid otter]

She treats an adult as an adult

[tropic venture]

Drifter she has known for like a year at most

Drifter is also not her child by association or history

The only way Drifter is her "child" is biologically, and that's not even tied to her, just to the Operator

[night grail]

Yes but it is important to remember that this is what the Operator wants to do. Or at least, knows they have to.

It wont be fun to relive but she does trust the Operator enough to allow this

[celest hollow]

Operator was cared for by the lotus since margulis rescued us from the zariman. Drifter was never rescued, they rescued themselves with help from a helping hand, so Drifter and Lotus don't know each other as well as Operator knows Lotus

i might have confused ssome details i think

[fierce kiln]

naramon: big ass sword
unairu: hammer
varazin: YOU SHALL NOT PASS
madurai: artillery bow
zenurik: https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-8038175681642934493

[woeful patio]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[cerulean kiln]

Cared since Margulus is inaccurate because she only filled the role after Margulis died

[celest hollow]

yeah thats my bad, knew that was the issue tho

[flat tree]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-book-forbidden-knowledge-boom-explosion-gif-15040128992476960784

[fierce kiln]

god what i wouldve given for naramon to be https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gif-25306498

heres hoping we get augments/ a 4th ability

[tropic venture]

we have yet to see what any of the new Focus mods do

[celest hollow]

ong or maybe rapid slashing katana

[tropic venture]

And Operator doesn't even have a 3rd ability, let alone a 4th

[celest hollow]

and not a polearm

[tropic venture]

ah wait Tauron Strike

[celest hollow]

yeah >:3

[tropic venture]

I'm dumb

[fierce kiln]

the tauron strikes are in the 3rd ability slot

yah