spoiler-chat

[uncut solar]

I really wish Dormizone was a hub

They advertised so much stuff for it, you can even buy an area expansion for it

It even has arsenal access!!!!

[tame canopy]

and the molt arcanes are pretty universally applicable to any frames

[uncut solar]

Not to mention all the Zariman stuff supercharging operator damage

With damage arcanes and even some energy economy sources

[solid otter]

Hey man idc much about gameplay im here for the shrine

[undone lodge]

They’re basically the paramilitary force of a global conspiracy that eventually develops into the people who became the Orokin

[undone lodge]

It was originally gonna have a bunch of upgrades

Like you know how in some games you upgrade your base and the decorations and condition of the stuff change/improve

[frozen crater]

Spoilers!!! One day, the main character will find the old man in the wall and turn him into the old man in the floor, and the lotus will say that we did well and the mission was completed successfully.

[undone lodge]

That kind of thing, we got a screenshot showing changes like a bigger table and I think different desktop/cabinets

[uncut solar]

i mean it still has upgrades

it even has an arsenal

still not a valid hub for some reason, sadly

i wish i could have a hub to visit Arthrithis easier

[wild wind]

apparently they're talking about making it a base of operations

[uncut solar]

i really hope so

would be my perma housing

[wild wind]

But there was a lot of stuff in the Zariman/Duviri that got cut, like the plant growing system

[cerulean kiln]

Technically they didn't cut the plant growing system

They just made it different

[tame canopy]

the passive plants growing in our duviri, right?

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah

[fringe pond]

They’re probably gonna do that later tbh

[shadow forum]

Oh I have question about TAU, will there be some biggest animals appearance in 2026 and why it won't be.

[cerulean kiln]

We can’t answer something we haven’t seen anything about yet

[tropic venture]

We know nothing of the 2026 Tau update

[stoic cape]

How long should I expect the hex quest to take if I’m trying to speed through

[cerulean kiln]

don’t try to speed through

[tropic venture]

While taking my time it took me like 1-2 hours

[flat tree]

Yeah 1999 is one of the best quests in this game

Right next to the new war in my opinion

[amber terrace]

This will probably/hopefully be covered in the Nov 28 Devstream, but are the additions of focus ultimates gonna be a whole top down rework à la the Zariman rework or will it be tacked on to the preexisting focus progression?

[balmy storm]

Second dream and war within are up there too

[balmy storm]

Likely tacked on but we’ll see in 8 days

From everything I recall hearing they didn’t want us to worry about farming stuff and from what we’ve seen and heard it more so seems like just an expansion

We’ll likely earn whatever resource we need in either gamemode, go to Marie, unlock it and boom
Now Naramon is a sword

[amber terrace]

I distinctly remember Unairu being a hammer but my memory isn’t as sharp as standard for 23 year olds

[balmy storm]

It is a hammer yes

It looks like they’re trying to find a balance between Focus School symbol being a weapon and it relating to the actual Focus School’s teachings

[amber terrace]

Part of me is wondering what Madurai’s gonna look like given I make the most use out of Madurai

[balmy storm]

I think one of them will be a glaive, either madurai or vazarin

[amber terrace]

I’m hoping it’s gonna be a game mode in Tau/Old Peace. If I am to be blunt, I really don’t like how much stuff has been piled onto the weekly grind; we have the Archimedeas(2x3), Netracell(1x1), Archon Hunt(1x3), the 1999 to do list(6 challenges), and then Nightwave for the Tenno not completely caught up

[balmy storm]

Actually vazarin could be a whip

[balmy storm]

Have you not caught up on anything?

[amber terrace]

And then there’s the descentia which is probably gonna be on a similar “challenge” level as the Archimedeas, which is gonna make it infuriating if you don’t have cracked gear and a good team

[amber terrace]

I’m working my way through the current Nightwave, I’ve gotten as far as possible given current time frames

[balmy storm]

We know there’s two gamemodes coming
The Perita Rebellion (Old Peace memory bath gamemode, no info other than name and setting)
And Descendia, a weekly descent with checkpoints with much better challenges than “play chroma, ghoulsaw and stug”

[balmy storm]

I might in terms of news

[balmy storm]

It does not look like it will be the same kind of difficult as Archimedeas, relying more so on unique levels and modifiers rather than randomized loadouts and debuffs

[amber terrace]

All I ask is that, worst case scenario there’s an objective defense, the objective is tankier than the Mirror Defense objectives in EDA

[balmy storm]

If there’s a defense type mission it will go quick

Maybe quick and hard but
Quick

Each floor should take ~2 mins
Every 7 is a checkpoint and loot iirc

[amber terrace]

I shouldn’t have to float on the point with Hildryn, basically becoming a turret and hoping that my team picks up the vosphene whatsits so the objective doesn’t get insta melted

[fierce kiln]

its closer to the circuit tbh

has steel path version, rewards rotate each week

has stages where progress saves

[undone lodge]

Howl of the Kubrow:

[fierce kiln]

the new strange, easily the most lore driven and cinematic quest out there:

[amber terrace]

That I can deal with

[fierce kiln]

if ur looking to do the steel path version, make sure you have a decently levelled necramech ready for their possible stages

[balmy storm]

I love dog

[wild wind]

oh true DE making necramech focused content in 2025, nice

[flat tree]

Stolen dreams best quest

Right next to limbo theorem

Their story is so good

[fierce kiln]

also teased vehicle stages

perhaps archwing but much more likely are kaithe and bike time trials

imagine railjack lmfao that cant happen

[misty veldt]

Railjack racing with other players would be really funny

[rain otter]

Any time someone talks about RJ pvp it just makes me realize it would be the most unbalanced thing ever.

[misty veldt]

Yea it would be awful fighting a extremely modded railjack

[supple dagger]

If it’s anywhere near close to archimedia difficulty even in levels, I’ll be evading it. Overly difficult high level content is not my thing.

Cool in concept, but it’s gonna be interesting to see how it works

[rain otter]

Not to even mention crew.

[misty veldt]

True

[rain otter]

"I'm solo crewing cuz my crew is better than most people"

[misty veldt]

If they were to do it than it would need to be a forced balance thing like the dojo pop thingy

[rain otter]

i mean the secret is that most MMO pvp is bad

and they shouldn't work on it.

[misty veldt]

True

I quite enjoy my PvE

Nice change of pace from most games

[tight pagoda]

It's a lot closer to the Circuit

[supple dagger]

Thank god. I enjoy circuit, so it’s gonna be fun testing out the new mode.

[wild wind]

imagine if they put a new set of incarnons there

[flat tree]

This is a lie, nobody likes the circuit

[hearty pendant]

its fine in small bursts

[supple dagger]

*I enjoy it when I’m alone and only need to do 2 rounds

[flat tree]

I'm going 3 hours in the circuit cause It's a sunday and I didn't want to do it any other day

[tight pagoda]

Circuit is fine when you don't get Excavation and Alchemy back to back

[golden flare]

What the heck?? ||I just confessed to Aoi on KIM, and I was gonna do the “ask Aoi out” option when speaking to her, BUT, now that option doesn’t appear, and she’s talking like we already went out??|| I’m confused, did I miss something??

What did I do wrongggg

[hearty pendant]

no, confession in KIM starts the dating immediately if you meet requirements/they accept

[tight pagoda]

You might've started dating her?

[golden flare]

Oooh

[tight pagoda]

Yeah is there a "we should break up" option when speaking to her in person?

[golden flare]

So… no cutscene..? 🥺

[golden flare]

Yep

[hearty pendant]

wasn't really going to be one through the "ask out" option either, just dialogue
you'll get the kiss cutscene at the reset if your chemistry is maxed, though

[rain otter]

I DO

[golden flare]

Oooh

[flat tree]

What suffering do you put yourself through?

[golden flare]

How do I check to see if our chemistry is maxed?

[flat tree]

Check their kim PROFILE

[rain otter]

They will be in your backroom.

Well close to max anyway.

For your partner anyway.

[hearty pendant]

ye, kim profile
if its maxed, it'll be at best friends/lovers, depending on if you're dating
sometimes it'll take a few days to update to lovers

[golden flare]

It says trusted

[rain otter]

That's

3(?) Outta 5(6?)

[hearty pendant]

neutral, friendly, liked, trusted, close, best friends/loved

[rain otter]

4 outta 6.

[golden flare]

???? But we’re dating? How does that make sense? XD

[rain otter]

Oh

Do you have your login set to the backrooms?

[golden flare]

I’m at trusted level but I’m able to date?

[tight pagoda]

Nope, nothing immediately , but if you hit rank 5 with the Hex and keep increasing chemistry to "Loved" status with her, you get a kiss scene when the calendar resets. And she'll move into the backrooms

[golden flare]

Hm? I can do that?

[flat tree]

Click on the backrooms on the POM-2

Right next to the mall

[hearty pendant]

3 of them have one lower chemistry requirement to date
Aoi is one of them, i think Amir and Quincy are the other two?
either way, you'll get some different KIM dialogue now

[golden flare]

I’m in there rn! 😁

[golden flare]

Gotcha!

[rain otter]

@golden flare it can be your login just like the drifter camp or the normal ship

[golden flare]

Ooooooh

I see I see!

I can have that be where I auto login

And that helps with the dating Aoi cutscene?

[rain otter]

Yes.

[rain otter]

Oh it's more when she's loved she will be there and you can talk to her/she will talk to you when you pass bye

[golden flare]

Aaah ok!

[rain otter]

It has everything your Normal ship has.

[golden flare]

True true, will I ever be able to go back to the orbiter?

[rain otter]

Yes.

Lmao if you couldn't people in the drifter camp would be stuck there.

[golden flare]

🤣 Good point

Ok so when I reach “loved” with Aoi, I can get the cutscene?

[rain otter]

On the pom PC in your backroom

You can click it to set it I'm pretty sure.

[golden flare]

Gotcha!

Same with the orbiter?

[rain otter]

The kiss? That's on new years. So in like 4 weeks?

[rain otter]

You would just click it on the star chart. Just like the Drifters camp.

They are both on/near earth.

[golden flare]

I see I see
I never knew about the driver camp XD

[rain otter]

YOU PLAYED THE NEW WAR

[golden flare]

I did!! Didn’t know I could go back XD

To the camp

[rain otter]

okay

so if you are in the ship as your login now

Go to earth on the starchart.

[golden flare]

👍

[rain otter]

near cetus and the steel

or iron wake and there is a "DRIFTER CAMP" node

[golden flare]

Ooooooooh
I… I see it now 😅

[rain otter]

yes you can click that to make it your login. do it so i can show you where the orbiter is

when you do that.

@golden flare

[golden flare]

Done! 👍

[rain otter]

okay so

now on the star chart where earth is stil

[golden flare]

Ooh! I see the orbiter node now!

[rain otter]

it's to the LEFt of the relay.

yeah.

[golden flare]

Thank you! XD
Sorry if that was frustrating for you 😅

[rain otter]

it's not frustrating it's okay.

so if you wanna swithc it to the backrooms.

just go to the PC in the ship

and i think you just click it and it says "Change your operations to the backrooms"

@golden flare

[golden flare]

Gotcha! It does say that for me, yeah!

[rain otter]

click yes now the backrooms if your login. it has a foundry and everything.

even a TV. and THE CAT.

[golden flare]

Done and done! 😁

[rain otter]

have you done

the extra quest or just the first 1999 quest?

[golden flare]

I’ve done both quests! Normal HEX and the finale

[rain otter]

okay.

you still have to unlock talking to the enby rock star and their sexy guitar and the couple with marriage problems.

and the Young lady who has some problems.

[golden flare]

1. I met Flare XD, he’s still threatening me-ish
2. I need to get to HEX rank 5 “Pizza party” before I can talk with the others

[rain otter]

they well

that's probably lizzie

[golden flare]

Sounds accurate 😂

[rain otter]

She talks through flare

[golden flare]

I noticed 🤣

[rain otter]

But flare is they and not he.

[golden flare]

Oooh! My mistake!

I didn’t know

[rain otter]

my they/them Rockstar and their She/her guitar lmao.

[golden flare]

Quite the combo! XD😎

[rain otter]

it's funny but also true and fun. i say it outta love.

[golden flare]

Same! 😁✨

They seem cool so far

[rain otter]

yee.

their lore is very sad.

[golden flare]

I shall learn it soon enough XD😅
Thank you all btw with the Aoi help!! I’ll keep grinding away the chemistry points and wait for… 4 weeks…

[rain otter]

lul.

hey her comments in the backroom will give you life i think.

[golden flare]

I hope so! XD sounds intriguing!

She’s a fun character

[lean token]

Updated version of my operator!
Prepped for old peace :)

[tight pagoda]

What hood is that?

[rain otter]

Commodore?

[wild wind]

https://tenor.com/view/monsoon-metal-gear-gif-24228698

[crude brook]

Is clem Karl?

[tight pagoda]

Clem and Kahl are two different Grineer

Though I guess they're all cloned based on the same guy

[rain otter]

Well grinner are all like made from a original gene base but it wasn't a person. Now all current combat grinner use some genes of thr first grinnee to kill a sentient.

[tight pagoda]

Ah

[tropic venture]

all Prime Grineer were directly from that one Grineer. Current Grineer use genes from other modern Grineer, hence the clone rot

the original genomes were lost in the Old War

[tight pagoda]

Ahhh

[lean token]

what vinny said, commodore

[fallen ibex]

Has there been a word about warframe releasing for android?

[cerulean kiln]

No

Just the beta version

Actual game isn’t ready yet

[covert tree]

Spoiler alert ||the milk is spoiled||

[balmy storm]

If it’s anything like IOS’ launch then yeah, it needs a beta

[tame canopy]

So wait what's the lore of grinder cloning?

like afaik theyre a labor force from the orokin in the past

[uncut solar]

They are specifically designed as a soldier/worker meat shield for orokin

If you copy the same thing a billion times then it'll start being weird

[balmy storm]

They were a labor force then later were used for war

[tame canopy]

So are all the variants like, molds for different jobs?

[uncut solar]

By our point, kinda

[balmy storm]

Yeah maybe

We know during the orokin era clonerot wasn’t a thing

[uncut solar]

It was probably about to happen either way

Considering the drastically increasing scope

[flat tree]

How is life as a crewman?

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/9-to-5-9-5-monster-hunter-cat-felyne-gif-1287600728145360417

[zenith jacinth]

Bad

[flat tree]

Like
The hell do they do? Just maintenance? No way you need that many maintenance members equip with guns and a whole security force to stop Tenno too

[uncut solar]

They do capitalism

And they're at a constant war with Grineer

[zenith jacinth]

Gotta be armed in case of a machine uprising

That is genuinely a lore reason

[flat tree]

I'm sorry, WHEN HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED 😭

[hearty pendant]

-# the sentients:

[tame canopy]

Unironically, I feel the grineer under the queens is somehow arguably better than the course crewmen

[zenith jacinth]

A fully autonomous mining station rebelled and took hostages

[flat tree]

That's the orokin's problem

Not Parvos

[hearty pendant]

still an example of machine uprising that the corpus would be aware of
the lesson if not the event itself

[tame canopy]

Like there's Kahl getting vay hek praising him, but there's also rathum arena from the bald lady in dog days where she got a whole crowd of them cheering for her anticipated killing of the the tenno lol

[zenith jacinth]

Definitely not

[flat tree]

So, just grab 500 crewmembers, MOA's and potentially jackals to station onto some bum ass facility on Venus to prevent a machine uprising?

[uncut solar]

Yes

[zenith jacinth]

Just the humans

The others are robots

[tame canopy]

I know the queen dialogue on Kuva siphon and fortress, btw. I know it's also hell in grineer

But like, maybe it's vibes but I feel like corpus life is probably a tad more messed up than grineer life

[zenith jacinth]

I can't imagine that it's particularly pleasant to be actively decaying for a 30 year life span

[hearty pendant]

also we see the machines turn on the corpus in tnw
yes, it was due to them being hacked n taken over by narmer/the sentients
but its still something they were vaguely prepared for

[uncut solar]

Being a person on a job vs being not considered a person for the most part

[flat tree]

huh

[uncut solar]

Not sure

[zenith jacinth]

Nah

[uncut solar]

At least corpus crewmen aren't born with billion types of cancer

[tame canopy]

The corpus does not consider the people in their tenure people too lol

[zenith jacinth]

Grineer are mass produced cannon fodder intended to die, corpus actually live

[zenith jacinth]

They do

[tame canopy]

The totalitarian space capitalist faction barely respects human rights as it is already

[zenith jacinth]

I mean the current world isn't too far from how the corpus operates

[uncut solar]

It's still more than being a lab grown diseased instrument with no past or future

[zenith jacinth]

Barely is more than not at all

[solid otter]

The grineer have had outliers but generally, they have it pretty shit

[graceful zodiac]

Yeah no, Corpus life is objectively the better one compared to Grineer

Corpus are trash, but they actually allow for mobility and change

[flat tree]

The quality of life ranking is

• Corpus
• Grineer
• Orokin
• Infested

[graceful zodiac]

Like, you can always throw your lot in with Perrin if you're that desperate

[uncut solar]

Grineer do have steel meridian

[zenith jacinth]

Infested are a weird outlier

[tame canopy]

Yeah they also got their defector faction

[tame canopy]

Seconded, infested are really fuzzy lol

[flat tree]

To be fair, being absorbed in a hive mind is nice but its like
being absorbed into a hive mind is kind of bad for everything else like, art and stuff

[uncut solar]

I think the difference that makes it is the fact Grineer are literally produced for combat in mass, while Corpus crew is normal people that had their life before it

[tame canopy]

Anyway, you know that reminds me, but did we ever took the data that one grineer boss, tyl regor, produced to help with clone rot for steel meridian, lore wise?

[flat tree]

He flooded most of his lab

[zenith jacinth]

I'm probably the last regular here who still remembers the guy who said the infested should win bc individuality is bad

[tame canopy]

Like I know he was gonna use it on the empire and that'll make them exponentially more dangerous but I feel like some scientists could use whatever that's salvagable from the research

[solid otter]

Orokin as in the hostile enemy or as in the caste

[tame canopy]

What???

[zenith jacinth]

The empire

[flat tree]

As in the brain scrambling neural sentries

[zenith jacinth]

Oh

[uncut solar]

But what about quality of life as narmer

[zenith jacinth]

That's. That wouldn't count for me

[solid otter]

Thats not even life

[zenith jacinth]

Yeeeah. This place used to have some weird ppl

[solid otter]

Its death with a parasite controlling your corpse

[tame canopy]

Narmer is perfecto because you live in delulu land :3

In Narmer veil lol

[flat tree]

Imagine an amazing friend speaking to you 24/7

[uncut solar]

I can't imagine that

[solid otter]

I think if i was forced to do that I'd explode

[zenith jacinth]

There was also one who advocated for "mercy" killing the solaris

[tame canopy]

W H A T

[solid otter]

Can't make me delusional if I'm already delusional

[tame canopy]

Dámm the server lore goes wild

[flat tree]

Neff Anyo's secret account 😭

[solid otter]

[zenith jacinth]

Even anyo doesn't want to kill them

I've been here for a while, this server used to be a lore nightmare sometimes

[solid otter]

Killing Amir in 1999 before the bomb goes off? Yeah i can see that as a mercy kill.

Not murdering the entire solaris united faction because... they're debtors?

Its a very we work to die situation but like???

[uncut solar]

That person was the anti homeless bench personified

[tame canopy]

We work
To earn the right to work

⛏️

[zenith jacinth]

Yo stupendium reference

[solid otter]

Ye!!

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/9-to-5-9-5-monster-hunter-cat-felyne-gif-1287600728145360417

[zenith jacinth]

My join date is so recent bc I left for 10 months btw I've been here since 2021

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-gif-14901082521966246439

[tame canopy]

Btw I opened.... I think Jupiter's junction on steel path? And for some reason it replayed the Cutscene where alad v was dissecting warframes into parts for selling to prospective customers and for zanuka lol

[uncut solar]

Yeah it happens

[tame canopy]

Still crazy to me that platinums are canon

And that dead warframe parts are worth millions of them

[flat tree]

I have an idea

[zenith jacinth]

[solid otter]

Warframes were like. not produced in huge amounts, so a dead one being worth a lot makes sense

[zenith jacinth]

I had a worse idea

[solid otter]

Ignoring that its just helminth flesh

[tame canopy]

To be fair do we know how many tennos are there, as a demographic?

[flat tree]

Probably like, about 100

[zenith jacinth]

A few thousand

[tame canopy]

We all know of the wf cryopod, the lone tenno operative and all

Do they have their own drifter?

[graceful zodiac]

It's not about the number of warframes, it's about the tech and difficulty in getting them

[tame canopy]

[zenith jacinth]

No

[uncut solar]

Wts cut off Valkyr limbs 45000000p

[solid otter]

The number would still affect that price

[uncut solar]

Corpus trade chat must be going wild

[tame canopy]

Ngl I wish one day we met a modern tenno in game

[graceful zodiac]

Warframes are numerous, but neither faction has the tech level to make them work

[solid otter]

Eh

[tame canopy]

We got proto frames, I just wanna see how the other tennos the lotus manages lol

[solid otter]

They just won't. At all.

[graceful zodiac]

Plus getting any part usually involves the murder of thousands to millions

[solid otter]

Without the operator, they usually won't do anything. Usually useless meat sacks

[uncut solar]

And in worse case scenario, would try to eat you

[solid otter]

The proots aren't tenno, they're closer to the warframe side than the tenno side

[graceful zodiac]

between 30k and 50k

at minimum

[solid otter]

Where did that number come from lmao

[uncut solar]

My hamster works with the lotus

[flat tree]

"SELLING ZANUKA COPIES [ALL PRIME WARFRAMES] FOR 5K PLAT, DM ME IF U WANT IT"

"HOUNDS FOR 500 PLAT EACH, DORMA, CELA AND HINTA, 5 FORMA, TENNO MODS"

[tame canopy]

Formas and mods are canon too so the trade chats must be on some wild stuff

[uncut solar]

Lowballing Nef Anyo so he sends a death squad at my place

[tame canopy]

For some reason we can also buy flawed mods from iron wake dumspter, which is???????? Why does it exists?

[uncut solar]

They were originally obtainable early in the game

To make people work for real mods

The modding system got reworked, but rubbish mods stayed because they're funny

[solid otter]

Trash mods
Shrimple as that

[tame canopy]

New concept: dumpster diving flawed mods and selling them at a markup to scam people

In lore :3

[uncut solar]

They have cracks on them

[zenith jacinth]

Ah yes, prootframes

[solid otter]

Like prootgens but protoframes

[tame canopy]

This can for sure be a wf

👁️

[uncut solar]

Voruna

[hearty pendant]

new voruna deluxe

[zenith jacinth]

Isn't there a name for tgat... I forgor

[solid otter]

Ermmm achtually thats going against the semi-open species rules for protogens!!/s

[tame canopy]

Arcane furry

[zenith jacinth]

Like full suit but no head

[flat tree]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[solid otter]

Uhhh the generic term is like. Poodling, but thats moreso for like. Partial suits rather than just not having the head

[uncut solar]

Voruna Proto

Anyways I have to go

My planet needs me

[solid otter]

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-ohio-meme-ayy-lmao-meme-kitty-gif-11740737186806017849

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah uh I shouldn't be awake rn

[uncut solar]

I'm too hungry to stay here

[zenith jacinth]

Yeet

[warm anvil]

there was a number in the zariman ARG, I think it just said that there was at LEAST ___ amount. i'll see if I can find it

nvm i could've sworn there was a number

[hearty pendant]

there was a population of the zariman number, wasn't there?
n that's the one that has like. 4 or 5 digits based on the spacing

[undone lodge]

Yeah

[balmy badger]

BAHAHAHAHAH.

That caught me off-guard.

[granite estuary]

Hey guys, look at my Operator having an ADHD moment:

[fierce kiln]

dagath prime:

[granite estuary]

I didn't set this up, it just happened like this and I found it giggle worthy lol

[fierce kiln]

yeah ive seen the bug lately

[balmy badger]

Uh, I don't think human necks are supposed to bend that far.

[flat loom]

It can if you're brave enough

Trust

[woeful patio]

I noticed that, new war final fight with ballas was the most ahole and ragebait move Digital Extremes ever pulled onto us

THEY PUT HIM SOOO CLOSE to us and yet... We couldnt throw hands or harm him.

I FIGHT THINGS STRONGER THAN HIM BUT I CANT HARM THIS GUY?!

Not only that

We also get assist kill by natah with a damn kiss

WE SUFFERED ALL THIS BC HE DIED OVER SIMPNESS

[uncut solar]

I think it was her kill

After all that he's done

[woeful patio]

Think that way our warframes that deserved more the kill

Especially umbra.

HE is the one with better reason to have the kill

I cant accept the fact i lose a fight with a one narcisist legged twink with overwhel levels of superiority

WITH THE MOST NASTY PLOT ARMOR I SAW

[hearty pendant]

he's already accepted those events, though

[woeful patio]

I take down a eidolon 50x bigger than him but .. i cant pierce his SHIELD???

[woeful patio]

Would he still curb stomp ballas head if he got the chance?

[uncut solar]

He tried, yeah

[hearty pendant]

he tried n got froze in place and obliterated

[woeful patio]

Would he do it again?

[hearty pendant]

probably, though less due to his own anger and more because that's A Reasonable Thing To Do To Ballas
but he would get frozen again if he was on his own

[woeful patio]

See with umbra it would make sense why we couldnt harm him.

But bringing a damn mountain like atlas, or a kitty with anger issues wouldnt make a sense to not harm him

Afterall he stabbed me i deserve to twist ballas neck on ways that was not supposed to be bend.

[flat loom]

Umbra, Jade, Kullervo, Dagath, Citrine, the latter

But yeah maybe it wasn't just Lotus' kill, countless of other warframes really

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[woeful patio]

AAAAAAAA

[woeful patio]

As how i was saying, yes we have alot of warframes that could harm some that probably would go against his shield or break it like a very very hot blade against a kids party baloon

[solid otter]

We are like

Right next to the sun

[woeful patio]

But his plot armor is the most ragebait thing i ever saw

[woeful patio]

Yes

And?

[flat loom]

It's ballas

[solid otter]

We can't really just. Go ham at him, we get burned

[flat loom]

Of course it'll be like that

[solid otter]

He is also like

[woeful patio]

Tell this to my gauss body checking him multiple times

[flat loom]

Hell, umbra's your great example

Couldn't attack ballas without the help of the tenno

[solid otter]

There is also like. He is using an archon shard. As a semi-sentient chimera thing.

[solid otter]

Thats from his dax lineage, not from him being a warframe

[hearty pendant]

ehh
special transference bolt could absolutely still be to blame for that
depends on how much of that dax blood is still going around in there

[flat tree]

Okay like

Why didn't we do anything in the cutscene before we got stabbed by ballas

We can hear the man monologuing behind us about killing the devil as we just stand there in grief, what are we doing 😭

[flat loom]

Uh, transference bolt, hello?

[solid otter]

Ehhh

[woeful patio]

Nova nuclear bomb

[hearty pendant]

stunned by losing lotus to the void portal

[woeful patio]

Also theres something that caught my attention

[flat loom]

Can't make up an argument against that, transference is what literally controls the frames, to say it on its own doesn't or shouldn't or wouldn't is just a huge fallacy

[woeful patio]

Theres a sentient prototype on nira boss fight, and... It has never seen again

It was a tall one being study or build by the corpus

[hearty pendant]

aren't they messing with a ropalolyst corpse or something

[woeful patio]

I tough it would be something like the ropalolist but its never seen or talked about

[woeful patio]

No no

[flat loom]

Lot of sentient bodies lying around almost everywhere even in PoE, so ya know scavenged corpse basically

[woeful patio]

But its never seen in the whole game

[solid otter]

.... im talking about how Umbra couldn't stab ballas. Something that is unique to him, because he's a dax...

[flat tree]

Then just, focus your rage on Ballas who just let that happen and now has just killed the lotus and possibly teshin.

I get the grief part, but you are in a dangerous situation as it is, there is no time for sentimentals

[solid otter]

Umbra couldn't kill his creators as he is a Dax, we see it with teshin and the queens, can't disobey them or whatever

We as warframes can still attack orokin people

We attack Nihil for lords sake

[cerulean kiln]

Day 11 thousand and 1 of the Orokin creating a safeguard and not implementing it for everyone

[flat loom]

That's like saying ballas being the creator isn't credible enough to stop any frame from attacking him

[solid otter]

... what

No????

Its a unique trait to dax

[flat loom]

You're basing umbra on his dax lineage alone

[solid otter]

... because we know warframes can do that

[cerulean kiln]

There’s literally been 2 quests showing Dax can’t

[solid otter]

If it was from the warframe aspect, we wouldn't be able to hurt Nihil

[cerulean kiln]

Dax can’t spill Orokin blood

[flat loom]

But other warframes aren't dax, are you saying that them alone with their consciousness intact be able to attack ballas without the help of the tenno, fully knowing ballas also has transference?

[cerulean kiln]

That was why Teshin couldn’t kill the queen till we held the staff

[solid otter]

Ballas does not have transference what

[flat loom]

????

[solid otter]

Ballas doesn't have transference.

[cerulean kiln]

Well he does

There’s the tech

[flat loom]

There are literally somatic implants

In game

[solid otter]

As in our transference or like. Something else?

[flat loom]

??? It's the same tf

[hearty pendant]

that's how he talks in umbra's head
"had you fitted with a special transference bolt"
also anyone could do transference, the tenno can just do it a lot easier
silvana (sylvana?) and the forest

[cerulean kiln]

But just because the tech exists doesn’t mean Ballas used it constantly

[flat loom]

But with tech

[solid otter]

Our transference comes from wally don't it?????

[uncut solar]

Transference is achievable with tech as well

[flat loom]

(1)

[uncut solar]

That's how he controls/talks to Umbra

No?

[cerulean kiln]

Orokin built tech based around our powers

[flat loom]

Are we forgetting that the orokin are modified humans, way more advanced

How are we missing the point of them being able to replicate void abilities thru tech

[cerulean kiln]

They aren’t better at transference than us

[solid otter]

Anyways.

Ballas didn't implement the same restriction on warframes where they cannot spill orokin blood.

For some reason

[uncut solar]

Transference Bolts were a thing

[flat loom]

And yet transference bolt exists

[solid otter]

We still can attack Nihil, an orokin, so its not from the fact we are a warframe.

[flat loom]

Nowhere stronger than the tennos' but definitely enough to control a warframe

[uncut solar]

Yeah, he can clearly communicate with and command Umbra to kill his own son

[cerulean kiln]

Umbra still couldn’t kill Ballas bolt or no bolt

[uncut solar]

That's quite a level of control, but not direct

[hearty pendant]

possibly just prevented them killing him
kullervo supposedly confronted him during/after the drums and got tossed into the void instead of winning

[solid otter]

Oh yeah

THE NIGHT OF THE NAGA DRUMS.

[cerulean kiln]

Umbra had a unique bolt just to relive a memory

Ballas already couldn’t be killed by him

[solid otter]

Dax just can't hurt orokin, we see it with the queens. Even as their body isn't "orokin", their minds still are.

[uncut solar]

The Orokin mind goblins

[solid otter]

We also don't know for sure if the executor was ballas. I hope it was someone else, ballas is always boring.

[hearty pendant]

the scepter saved the queens, not their minds
being orokin or holding the scepter prevents dax from harming someone

[solid otter]

... the queens are still orokin

[cerulean kiln]

Or just someone holding Kuva

[solid otter]

I suppose the use of kuva is the main restriction

[flat loom]

And yet you get a choice that teshin beheads the queen

It's the scepter

[cerulean kiln]

Because we held the staff then

[flat loom]

Yeah I know that's the point

Teshin couldn't kill the queen because of the scepter

When the tenno got hold of the scepter he was then able to

[solid otter]

Regardless, warframes can still kill orokin, so its likely from the dax nature of Umbra that stops him from stabbing Ballas.

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas just froze him in place tbh

[flat loom]

So can the dax as long as the victim aren't pure, like the queens

[solid otter]

... ballas was pure then

As pure as a orokin could be kekw

[flat loom]

Going full circle again thomas, love to see it

[hearty pendant]

iirc umbra did have to be commanded to stop, though
with a similar echo effect that was in the memory sequences
while teshin just never attempted to attack the queens until the tenno had the scepter
i'd still say its due to the transference bolt but it could still be that umbra was a dax

[cerulean kiln]

Teshin also had to be commanded tbh

[uncut solar]

Walking past Teshin with my 2 million Kuva

https://tenor.com/view/blob-jelly-memes-stare-at-it-bob's-gif-8902687973428544154

[flat tree]

Funny how rare this stuff is

[solid otter]

I mean

[flat tree]

Then everybody in the origin system is selling 10k for the credit equivelent of chumps change

[solid otter]

Depends on how it counts a singular unit of kuva

2 million millilitres aint that much, but 2 million litres is

[cerulean kiln]

Kuva is rare

I probably have more of it than the Queens

[uncut solar]

You need 5000 for a broken scepter

[flat tree]

How does Paladino and Arthicus get her hands on it 😭

[uncut solar]

Paladino is built different

Arthritis too

[flat loom]

Unless they get uno reverse card by the orokin, say ballas in this instance, by his transference bolt, there's a chance of a kill but prolly won't be as successful without the tenno

Look at kullervo lmao, bro got turned into a scapegoat

[cerulean kiln]

She has a cult is how

And Acrithis

Well

She’s stuck in Duviri

[flat loom]

"KID WHATCHU GOT THERE"

[cerulean kiln]

Duviri has a secret Kuva mine confirmed?

[flat loom]

Damn, we got oil in duviri hide them bois

[cerulean kiln]

Acrithis can do mining but we can’t

[flat loom]

NOOOOOOO

Can't make acrithis do all the work

[cerulean kiln]

Duviri getting Kuva actually makes sense because it is a Void derived thing

[flat tree]

You know, cosmetics can create some, really weird scenarios

Playing the second dream with Arthur and a fully dripped out operator

[cerulean kiln]

Went in with the drip
Went out with the drip

[hearty pendant]

the funniest possible time to have a customized operator is one of the prelude cutscenes
when you blast erra w/ the other tenno
'spot the main character' energy

[flat tree]

I had my tenno colored in power ranger colors dawg 😭

[cerulean kiln]

Tauron suit it actually makes sense going into the pod with because Old Peace was before we went back into the pod

[hearty pendant]

incredible

[flat tree]

Also doing quests like
way later then they should too

[flat loom]

Letting the protoframes experience war is diabolical

Prolly their second war

Wink wink, unless the thing with scaldra is a civil war, it's still war

[zenith jacinth]

Don't think it counts as a war when it's just one city

[spring pendant]

Gonna spoiler-tag this so people don't gotta read it if they don't wanna

I do not expect anyone to agree with me, I just wanna talk about the upcoming update a bit because it's been on my mind

||The fact that Tenno Operators can now look pretty grown-up with the coming update to faces bothers me, I don't wanna exaggerate it or downplay it, it's a medium bit of being bothered by it.

Tenno are kids, that's the horror behind it, and the whole thing with them latching onto Margulis as a mother figure, and them being made into instruments of war.

With the update I'm sure there will be options to make them look pretty young.
But that's also it.

They likely will not universally look like kids anymore. When in my head, they should.

To add a bit of context: I hated my operator when I got to Second Dream, I've been playing since 2015, I didn't want there to be a reason behind the Warframes, I just wanted to live in ignorance not knowing what Warframes were when I was younger, I didn't want the veil to be lifted. But it's been a long time since then, and I'm ok with it now.

That said, I fully understand people not wanting to play as a Tenno that's eternally a kid..........and I get if you don't want to play the Drifter, if you don't like the Drifter, but that's also what the Drifter is for, they're grown, they're the character to go for if you want to write romance with characters, etc

Imho that adds to the horror and 'drama' of it all, the Tenno being eternally young, unable to live normal lives

If there's someone that wants to (kindly) correct me about some of my impressions, correct lore interpretations, please do so, I'd love to be less bothered by this

But yeah, just, had to talk a bit about the upcoming update.||

[solid otter]

I SAID THIS

Like. From what i know right

They're in highschool. Early highschool, so thats like. What? 12? 13?

I do agree they needed a rework but like

It is significant enough to notice they are older

Which also begs the question to why the tales of Duviri was even remotely important

Its a picture book, why would a 15/16 year old need a picture book to explain how to control their emotions?

[cerulean kiln]

Because they probably aren’t 15/16

[undone lodge]

They aren’t eternally young
Like, for all we know they could be or have an insane aging rate, but it’s not confirmed or anything

They’re still young because they were in cryo

[solid otter]

Exactly! So why do they look like that? I honestly figured they were the drifter

[spring pendant]

But if they could age, surely they would have grown up during the Old War while they were at war?

[solid otter]

Loid should logically be 60 at a minimum, and he uh. Doesn't look 60 years old. There's the higher chance they age slower.

[spring pendant]

That surely took more than a few months, no?

[cerulean kiln]

They were put in pods controlling the frames that way for most of it

[undone lodge]

Thats
Not what aging is

[spring pendant]

(Thank you for being kind about this)

[solid otter]

Im saying that the aging in warframe is skewed.

[cerulean kiln]

He was in cryo tbh

[solid otter]

No even before then

[undone lodge]

Yeah, and biologically you’re thinking of two different things

[cerulean kiln]

I wouldn’t even say they age slower though tbh more human bodies just last longer

[undone lodge]

That would also be aging slower

If we’re just talking in terms of adults

Oh wait did you mean like, mentally?

[cerulean kiln]

I mean the body ages normally but normal for an advanced society

Not slower aging just human bodies live longer because better stuff available

[obtuse gyro]

have you seen a 15-16 year old? Put them in an environment where its very important to control their emotions and theyre going to blow it

a book intended to teach people how to regulate emotions gotta go with the lowest denominator too

[solid otter]

Yes i lived with them. Unfortunately.

[flat loom]

Personally, I'd say you should just consider the drifter as a character of its own and not just a compliment to the operator or like a "skin" to them

The new war made drifter unique entirely, fresh from the modern warframe experience because the dude doesn't have anything the operator has, literally just a pistol and SMOKE BOMB, and a whole 'nother arsenal

Course that changed many would or would not agree but it kinda did still before 1999 dropped

I technically did ditched the operator when the drifter dropped

[spring pendant]

I'm fully aware that they're seperate people, but I understand if some people do not like the Drifter, is all I mean

[flat loom]

Oh yeah truly!

I agree with the operator faces tho, they kinda do look older than the current ones but that's just prolly to some faces

We'll never know, but hopefully that's the case

Copium

[spring pendant]

I saw a well-written comment that pacified me a bit, which can essentially be summed up as

We really do not know enough to actually be able to tell whether Tenno can physically age or not

Which I'm ok with

[flat loom]

Same

Who knows how much to an extent the void affected them

Their physiology and biology whatever the term is

[cerulean kiln]

They can physically age cuz they are still human

Wally gave powers not aging gone

[spring pendant]

But we don't know that, we know nothing about what Wally did

[cerulean kiln]

The pod was what kept them a kid

Rell is proof Tenno can age

[flat loom]

I was going to use the cryopod as an explanation just wasn't sure up to what context lmao

[cerulean kiln]

Rell aged because he was never put in the pod

[flat loom]

Like say, steve rogers, the passengers movie

Etc etc

[spring pendant]

I think there's a decent argument to be made that Rell's lore is from a time before lore was fully planned out, hell you could say 'Tenno are immortal but Wally really hecked up Rell and so he aged, also he was never in a pod, yadda yadda'

[obtuse gyro]

I dont think that argument is decent enough

[spring pendant]

I don't think there's solid enough proof either way

[cerulean kiln]

DE directly plan the lore in advance

[obtuse gyro]

rell was introduced as a character after they already came up with the tenno

I dont think its reasonable to use rell as an example of "DE didnt fully plan out the tenno"

[undone lodge]

Also like

This is aging. In a live-progression game

It’d be really weird if they didn’t think of that

[cerulean kiln]

Rell literally became Harrow because he was afraid aging would undo his purpose

[solid otter]

They do be messing up sometimes but it can be explained by it being minor dialogue

Or weird timeline shit.

Like us having a archwing in heart of deimos when we shouldn't

[cerulean kiln]

Is it set before Archwing quest though?

[spring pendant]

FFXIV would like a word with you, where the devs literally said 'yup, we really didn't think of that, guess the main character just has had a REALLY LONG YEAR doing all of main quest progression in a few months'

two main characters are part of a race that famously goes through a huge growth spurt when they hit 18, and they're still 17 and smol kids after 10+ years of ingame events happening

[solid otter]

Yeah pretty sure? I think its right before iirc

[cerulean kiln]

Can you do Archwing quest before it though?

[hearty pendant]

set? no, accessable? yes
you get both quests around the same time and heart doesn't require archwing to play

[obtuse gyro]

we use an archwing during the quest?

or more like, were we made to use it?

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah to plant ourselves on the moon

[solid otter]

Intro cutscene, still will happen regardless if you've done the quest or not

[cerulean kiln]

It isn’t too big of an issue tbh

There’s a simple explanation you can use

[obtuse gyro]

lol they should just lock HoD behind the archwing quest since theyre on the same junction set

[solid otter]

Nah, course not, just a minor issue

[cerulean kiln]

A simple explanation can be Ordis grabbed us one to land to borrow

[uncut solar]

I wish they didn't put HoD so early on

[solid otter]

Or my ever favourite

Why did father mention he met mother after Albrecht left while Loid mentions Albrecht was around for the grandchildren. It could be weird memory issues but still

[uncut solar]

Creates a lot of confusion when you can't exit Loid's room since you don't have Operator

Or when you can use transference on the mech

[cerulean kiln]

It’s probably in the scene because Heart of Deimos was originally going to be a quest released much later in the story

[obtuse gyro]

albrecht was around for his grandkids? or was that not just loid

[uncut solar]

I think it was originally past the second dream?

[solid otter]

Mhm. He and Kalymos.

[undone lodge]

Ok. And?

[cerulean kiln]

It was going to be after New War

[hearty pendant]

there's dialogue for if you already have transference, just not used
has the "it's too early for them" line instead

[undone lodge]

That another has done so doesn’t actually change anything

[solid otter]

Its Loid's line where he mentions that when the grandchildren were little, kalymos was really sick. And that Albrecht took her back somewhere.

[obtuse gyro]

I think an important qualifier is that when albrecht left for loid was when he actually left. For anyone else its when he stopped going public

[uncut solar]

Oh, that makes perfect sense

[obtuse gyro]

hmmmmm, peculiar

[undone lodge]

And the way you’ve described and from what little I know of XIV, the character’s being age also isn’t like, actually significant to the story and themes

[spring pendant]

I only really answered your aging would be taken into account in a live progression game argument, no offense intended

[uncut solar]

Then Kalymos returned as if nothing happened

[spring pendant]

When.....yeah, not always

[solid otter]

She was probably cloned.

[cerulean kiln]

Loid didn’t care to ask

[solid otter]

Fair

Loid is too sober for a lot of the shit that happens

[uncut solar]

He gave Kalymos pills that make you healthy

[solid otter]

Giving loid several bottles of wine as an apology

[cerulean kiln]

Give Albrecht wine so he answers the question

[solid otter]

Albrecht would need more than wine.

[uncut solar]

The kabuchi

[solid otter]

Mf would need something stronger than 99% alcohol.

[undone lodge]

I did not say it would, I said it would be weird, and I meant that warframe has live progression and the character’s age is actually important

Like, Fallout 76 has live progression too, the characters age doesn’t matter because you can play/flavour as whatever and it isn’t really relevant. In warframe you’re specifically a child soldier

[cerulean kiln]

Alr bet is this good enough?

[uncut solar]

The way Ordis puts it it should be enough

[solid otter]

No he just has the orokin drug tolerance

Also he'd just shoot us and skedadle

[flat loom]

Albrecht changed or was he always twink old man and not himbo old man

[uncut solar]

What do you do against a triggerhappy person who knows you can rewind time

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht should seek therapy

[solid otter]

He was blue once. On the bigger side

[uncut solar]

The orokin special, yeah

Long arm, blue and weird

[solid otter]

No long arm

[cerulean kiln]

Ngl Albrecht looks better not blue

[uncut solar]

Wait no?

[solid otter]

Just blue

[uncut solar]

Must be misremembering with all the other pictures of orokin

[flat loom]

I remember seeing a portrait of him as blue himbo man with lo g hair, white full eyes

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht is a master of not following Orokin customs

[uncut solar]

Guess it's a matter of practicality

[solid otter]

Where yo arm at

[uncut solar]

What if the other arm is long

[solid otter]

Why did he lose weight m

[solid otter]

Unlikely. Wrong arm if it was

Oh and his uh

[flat loom]

Oh he kalymos pale

[uncut solar]

Depression

[solid otter]

Statues all gave the same arms

[cerulean kiln]

I helped him get in shape

[uncut solar]

He ate the finger

[flat loom]

It's what the yaoi does to you /j

[uncut solar]

Yaoi beam does that to you

That's true

[cerulean kiln]

I feel if Albrecht had the finger on him Wally would have it by now Wally can legit steal memories

[solid otter]

Unfortunate. He looked better.

[uncut solar]

Who deleted the image

[flat loom]

I deleted it because I do not want the suspension

[undone lodge]

He was bulking so he could train to operate the Vessels

[solid otter]

Dad bod Albrecht is better than snatched waist Albrecht.

[uncut solar]

Huh?

For what?

[flat loom]

I'm not sure whT

I did not think it thoroughly

[uncut solar]

[flat loom]

BUT HEY GAY BEAM DOES HIT DIFFERENT

[solid otter]

What the hell dawg

[flat loom]

If you made him dad bod, it'll be the jojo treatment

Then he wouldn't be stealthy scientist time traveller

[cerulean kiln]

The better question is why did the artist draw him fat in the first place when he already showed up skinny

[uncut solar]

Something something orokin gene editing

[flat loom]

I mean, brother was prolly cutting for all we know

[solid otter]

That portrait is older than the comic

[cerulean kiln]

Maybe those stairs he walked down made him lose weight

[solid otter]

It was first seen in...

I think the new war?

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah, Zariman portrait

[solid otter]

Also that shirt is quite tight, might not do his body shape any favours. Not that i mind. I love big men

That's how im Loid

[cerulean kiln]

Do you love blue men?

[flat loom]

[solid otter]

Big men, blue is optional. Preferably men with a slightly odd gender.

Orokin fall there bcs they don't percive gender the same as us

[flat loom]

The orokin is the embodiment of game is game

[cerulean kiln]

Orokin fell because Ballas made it happen

He was behind it the whole time

[solid otter]

Oh for gods sake nemesis 😭

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/77176186148499456/1435489161602928650/Tumblr_l_1222864187355579.gif

Loid is gonna get you

[cerulean kiln]

What he only coded a Sentient to want to kill the Orokin and by proxy convinced us to join in

[flat loom]

Ballas was the last orokin right?

[cerulean kiln]

No

He just thinks he is

[solid otter]

For some reason

[flat loom]

Ok good, I thought he was the last avatar

[solid otter]

The entrati family are right there

Nihil too

[flat loom]

Nihil crying in the jar

[solid otter]

Depends if you see what nihil is as alive

He still will be alive if let out

[flat loom]

He just fish, I refuse to get from nightwave

[undone lodge]

I mean I’d consider ordis alive

[flat loom]

Ordan comes and goes /j

[undone lodge]

Not biologically but like, he’s right there

[solid otter]

He has a boss fight and a weapon locked to him iirc

Fun fight. He calls me names and I want to hurt him for it.

Aint no man calling me names.

[undone lodge]

IIRC you need to get a key from Nightwave, win the boss fight and get the Glass Thing as a reward and then you can buy the key again to repeat

• you get the blueprint for his Glassing Sword

[cerulean kiln]

He thought it because Entratis family are on an Infested planet so it is a safe assumption

Queens were literally outcast Orokin hiding in a moving fortress

Albrecht went missing

Nihil was hiding in the weave

Ballas just thought he had them all killed tbh

[solid otter]

Roathe disappeared one day

[flat loom]

Remind me again what triggered the kalymos sequence

[solid otter]

Wally's increased activity iirc

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas being Ballas

Ballas opening Void portals made Murmur more active

[flat loom]

The sudden realization that loid was actually a human and necraloid was just a companion to said human loid

[solid otter]

Necraloid was programmed to have memory lapses of the sequence's name, in response to Wally's growing presence

[cerulean kiln]

Why is 90% of this game either Ballas or Albrecht’s fault?

[flat loom]

The more reason to beat the shit out of ballas with

[cerulean kiln]

I’m predicting Ballas is the reason the War started back up again

[solid otter]

I like to think Albrecht made necraloid as a loid because he, as Albrecht, couldn't figure out a person he'd rather spend time with. Forgetting that maybe Loid might not like it

There was one person who was convinced Albrecht cheated on his wife with loid once. That was strange. Rather peculiar.

[cerulean kiln]

All Orokin are coded to be bad with anything involving emotions

[solid otter]

That's so me core

[flat loom]

Wouldn't it be funny if albrecht went along with it as a joke but his wife couldn't push through with the joke and the person just spread the rumor lmao

[cerulean kiln]

His Wife was never around past giving birth it seems

[flat loom]

Prolly wouldn't

But it might

[solid otter]

We don't even know for sure if he even had a wife. He had a woman once as a partner

[flat loom]

Damn, even sadder

[solid otter]

He was a single parent. Loid probably helped a lot.

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht says he raised Eurelia alone

[flat loom]

.... We're prolly meeting albrecht in tau, then we get a background story

[solid otter]

Loid was there when Euleria was young enough to be influenced by his habits

[flat loom]

"ah drifter, dating more protoframes I see"

"anyways, I wasn't very fortunate"

[cerulean kiln]

If I don’t get to shoot Albrecht in Tau I’m shooting Nihil instead

[solid otter]

Its entirely possible that the old peace Albrecht is in duviri

[flat loom]

I'm going to lock myself with every nef anyo henchmen AND nef anyo if I don't get to hear what the deal is with albrecht in tau

[solid otter]

Well

[cerulean kiln]

We definitely will

The quest mentions Albrecht himself not being in it at all makes no sense considering the triad

[solid otter]

The zariman trying to get to tau was super important for wally, if you get what i mean

The triad feels rushed

[flat loom]

"YOU'RE ASS IS NEXT IF THIS BASTARD AIN'T ENOUGH"

Me to wally prolly

[solid otter]

Oh well. The drifter is getting a visual rework. Might as well add something for them

[cerulean kiln]

The Zariman wasn’t important to Wally the children on it were

[solid otter]

The concept of Roathe being able to just leave for the kimchat hurts me

[cerulean kiln]

He failed to make a deal with Albrecht so found a weaker audience

[undone lodge]

Just leave what?

[solid otter]

The pom-2 is how the triad will use the kim system. So roathe is gonna have to leave the exile he's in to use it. Which... defeats the point of the exile

[zenith jacinth]

He's still stuck in the sanctum

[cerulean kiln]

Or they just have a PC in the room and Albrecht made it work through time

[zenith jacinth]

They use the pc in the sanctum

[solid otter]

Nup, devs said the pom-2 system theyll use is the one in the sanctum

[cerulean kiln]

So we use it in the sanctum too or can we use our PC?

[solid otter]

Hes in xx99, not the sanctum. The door is just there. What's stopping roathe from just booking it when loid turns his back?

[cerulean kiln]

Maybe he doesn’t know how to open the door

[zenith jacinth]

Tagfer

[solid otter]

Loid has a gun

[zenith jacinth]

Tagfer is tagfer

[cerulean kiln]

Tagfer has a knife

[solid otter]

Bird 3 would help

By uh

Pulling Roathe's hair

[zenith jacinth]

Fish would just scream to get loid's attention

[cerulean kiln]

What if Roathe starts pulling Loids?

[solid otter]

Loid would get angry.

[flat loom]

Very mature of you wally, very mature of you

[solid otter]

As funny as it would be, Loid would not hesitate to blow someone's head off

[flat loom]

I wouldn't even doubt it 😭

[solid otter]

He has done it before. He'd do it again.

[flat loom]

BRO CAN BULLETJUMP

THAT SPEAKS VOLUME

[solid otter]

He's killed corpus folk

[cerulean kiln]

Loidframe when?

[solid otter]

Limbo prime!!

I just want to see Liger's other clothes for Loid ingame one day

[cerulean kiln]

If Loid is a butler who is he even a butler to now if who he served is gone

[undone lodge]

Bird 3 is a giant bird he could just knock Roathe over and sit down

[solid otter]

Thats a issue he has iirc

He just doesn't know what to do

[zenith jacinth]

Serve tea

[cerulean kiln]

He said he remains the servant

[solid otter]

LET ME SEE THEM.

[flat loom]

Tenno uhhh, tenno consultant

[cerulean kiln]

Loid Tenno butler now?

[undone lodge]

He looks evil in F 😭

Some Corpus villain

Maybe Gregory V

[flat loom]

Most likely, I mean we do see the sanctum being used as time baptism travelling machine

[solid otter]

Personal favourite one

Liger try not to make gay men hard mode/j

[solid otter]

I like F! F2 and B0 are my favourites

[flat loom]

Reminds me of his design with sev prime

Unrelated, but like I want to see the railjack being used in earth again as mode of transportation like how it was presented when it was introduced

Doing a jump whilst in the stratosphere is actually cool af

Then make cephalon cy do another "tenno, on your six" move on us

Oh wait nvm, it wasn't in earth but it was in venus

https://youtu.be/MCgR4WQ0Co0?t=29s

"we're still being bombarded in orbit, I wonder if we can do something about that"

Fricking railjack comes in with its head looking like jar jar blinks

Also unrelated, but with all this loid talk, I also want to see Otak, bro specialized in minerals

Wasn't he an archimedean

Like he briefly does a cameo in tau, and he's always been calling the tenno as chip

Ah, good 'ol otak

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[late oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-shadow-stalker-new-war-hunhow-gif-27625690

[echo basalt]

Honestly liger making non attractive men is kinda impossible given the designs he's worked on like most of the male deluxe skins that have a perfect ass

[solid otter]

Liger is genuinely one of the artists i strive to be as skilled. I bloody love his art 😭

Him and Emerson Tung from idsoftware's art team. Both peak

[rain otter]

Liger uses they

But yeah ligers great

[solid otter]

Do they?? I thought Liger as a whole were multiple folk as they use "We" to refer to themselves

[rain otter]

Yee the devs to liver as they if I recall correctly.

I can always be wrong

[fringe pond]

Like
A system?
DID type beat?

[rain otter]

I think more

[solid otter]

Idk they just all use "we" on their deviantart 😭

[rain otter]

What's the word

Not system

[fringe pond]

If it’s in a “multiple personalities” way then i would use system

If not, idk what you mean

[solid otter]

Plurality I suppose

[undone lodge]

I thought it might be but I never saw anything mentioned about it so just assumed it was like, the royal We or whatever

[rain otter]

PLURAL

There we go.

[woeful patio]

if you ever tough you day was completely trash...think about this lil guy day.

[wild wind]

Portuguese Warframe would be fun. I wonder who they'd get to voice Lotus.

[thick jolt]

hmm pretty sure there's a typo in those subtitles

[echo basalt]

it might be brasilian portuguese

[thick jolt]

fairly sure it should be "ó visionario mais lucrativo e sagaz" the symbol is missing

on the "O"

without the symbol it becomes equivalent to "the"

[balmy storm]

Unplayable quest tbh

[cerulean kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-major-spelling-mistake-spelling-mistake-gif-25140477

[thick jolt]

I mean without it veso sounds like he's calling himself the most sagacious and lucrative visionary

Like pretty big shift in meaning

Instead of praising alad to keep his job veso would be singing his own praises

[zenith jacinth]

Guessing the game just really doesn't like non-basic letters

[thick jolt]

There's one right in the first letter of the subtitle

So just a typo really

[zenith jacinth]

Like it already gets angy if you try to put an apostrophe in a name

Ah I'm blind

Typo ye

[thick jolt]

Funny how just a tiny "o" instead of "ó" flips who the praise is about lol

[zenith jacinth]

Language is great

[thick jolt]

Yup

[zenith jacinth]

-# wish I figured that out before my ability to learn them declined

[echo basalt]

yeah considering how wack half the languages of the different factions look

[tight pagoda]

The also got Vipo's name wrong?

[cerulean kiln]

Teto?

[undone lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-brain-teto-4lokogangemporer-jamiep-birdbrain-gif-14306545906510942645

[woeful patio]

....no man..its right.

"O visionario" dont change from english, it still means same thing

[thick jolt]

It does

He is praising aladv

[woeful patio]

Theres no "ó", "ô", "õ"it being a normal sentence

[woeful patio]

bc he is...

[thick jolt]

É veso, senhor, o visionario
Is different from
É veso, senhor, ó visionario

One the praise is directed at aladv the other is directed at veso

[woeful patio]

FOR GODS SAKE LAD, YOU WANNA KNOW MORE THAN ME

A BRAZILIAN

[thick jolt]

Because i am brazilian too lol

That's how i know it's different

[zenith jacinth]

[woeful patio]

Id that fine we cuss words on normal language?

HE IS praising alad v BC HE IS the one shoved there BC ALAD V send him there

HE IS PRAISING alad v IT DONT CHANGES FROM ENGLISH OR PORTUGUESE

[thick jolt]

That isnt the question here

[woeful patio]

Or that

[thick jolt]

The matter is how the lack of agudo on the ó changes the meaning from vocativo to artigo

[woeful patio]

Or the translator misspelled it

[thick jolt]

Yeah that's what i commented minutes ago lol

[zenith jacinth]

-# Heh. The only major named corpus with single letters at the end are R and V...

[woeful patio]

Diverging from" Ó visionario"

[thick jolt]

Like this whole thing started by me commenting how i'm pretty sure there was a typo in the subtitles

[woeful patio]

...how old is this quest?

[thick jolt]

Not too old

[wild wind]

five years ish

[woeful patio]

5 years of misspeled

[thick jolt]

Basically

Tbf it is a tiny dot

[zenith jacinth]

Think tnw is actually almost exactly 4 years old rn

[woeful patio]

Kinda

But now you will no longer forget this

....

[thick jolt]

Kinda what i am studying for

[woeful patio]

Now the great question.

Who should dub lotus.

[thick jolt]

I do wanna work with translation after all

[thick jolt]

Honestly no idea

[wild wind]

Look it's either telenovela actresses or youtubers :V

[woeful patio]

DO NOT

[thick jolt]

See that's why i dunno

All actresses i remember are from telenovelas, so i basically only remember them screaming at eachother

[woeful patio]

Most of the telenova actress on brazil have a oddly annoying voice or dont know how to dub.

[thick jolt]

Which is a pretty poor baseline for the lotus

[zenith jacinth]

-# I volunteer for lotus' german voice

[thick jolt]

Lol

[wild wind]

BR anime actresses then

[woeful patio]

Hmm...

[woeful patio]

.

....

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-chin-scratch-hmm-think-gif-9438567

[wild wind]

It's also worth remembering that Ballas's English VA does car commercials in his day job

[thick jolt]

I mean like lotus doesnt scream, and i only know our actresses voices when they are screaming lol

[woeful patio]

..DELTA, FRIEREN.

[wild wind]

And apparently there's a McDonald's commercial he did somewhere

[zenith jacinth]

I'd put on my best stereotypical accent

[woeful patio]

SHE HAS THE VOICE THAT MATCH IT.

[thick jolt]

Ohh nice to know

[zenith jacinth]

He what

[woeful patio]

Her voice is calm and....

Momy., so it match the actress.

[wild wind]

Yeah! It's really funny

[thick jolt]

Also while on this topic

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Lotus/Voice_Packs

Lotus lotus

[zenith jacinth]

I'm starting to think every language found a good voice for frieren bc that's 4/4 so far

[wild wind]

ahaha I remember that one

[thick jolt]

It was hilarious

[woeful patio]

Thats...perfect...

Waifu lotus got me put of guard... And them...vay hek lotus

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

[thick jolt]

Maggots

[woeful patio]

Momy voice actress superiority.

[woeful patio]

Ok all jokes aside... Who shouls dub the most important character.

...
C l e m

[wild wind]

The Operator when they say "my Warframe is strong"?

Oh.

Less exciting.

[woeful patio]

We dont talk about operator cringe dialogues...

https://tenor.com/view/anime-okay-then-meh-unamused-nom-gif-18015248

[zenith jacinth]

I vote charles martinet in every language except english

[woeful patio]

..who the hell is dis guy brb.

[tight pagoda]

"We fought with honor" probably 'fought' in the way-way-way past tense because I absolutely did not just fight that battle with honor

[wild wind]

LOL

Look if Amir's VA can take Mario, Mario's VA can take Amir

[zenith jacinth]

Mario

[wild wind]

(note: Amir's VA is the new VA for Mario in the games)

[zenith jacinth]

And luigi, waluigi, wario, paarthurnax...

[zenith jacinth]

And he does a surprisingly good job

[woeful patio]

Oh...i kinda...liked it???

Dayumn.

[zenith jacinth]

...what

[woeful patio]

Now, remember, all lines and amir barking now as mario.

[tight pagoda]

There's a fun chat with Quincy where it blew his mind that Amir was making all the noises in a legally-distinct-Mario arcade game

And it's a reference to how Trieve Blackwood-Cambridge, the actor for Quincy, had his mind blown when he learned Kevin Afghani (Amir) was voicing Mario

[woeful patio]

Nintendo is not having a good day this year, we dont need to trigger her now.

[zenith jacinth]

Oh we absolutely do

Make nintendo keep making mistakes

I want to see them fall

[wild wind]

🤨