#spoiler-chat
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a religion is something in which you believe or have faith into something, you don't believe in something proven, otherwise it'd just be science
I’m very curious to see who the third proto is and what Uriel will answer with
Its essentially something you choose to believe into, if that choice doesn't exist then, I mean, its pointless. So to ask if Sol and Lua the gods are real is kinda just defeating the purpose of it being a religion
If Uriel’s the third proto then who they are and why they’re being questioned will be interesting
Most likely Uriel considering what DE put in the trailer description
I personally would like to see kullervo as a proto
Oh yeah most likely, it is just odd they didn’t actually show or reveal the third
he'd fit right in with the 2 others
Is it the Devil’s Triad (a triad for the devil) or the Devil’s Triad (a triad including the devil)
So would Equinox tbh
true enough
-# (Taken from the new TennoCon Major Reveals trailer)
"In addition to offering up Protoframes for Wisp and Harrow and the new devil-themed Warframe, Uriel, The Old Peace will also set the stage for a major new expansion into the Tau System coming later in 2026."
The wording with and and and is a bit confusing though
yeah but their refusal to confirm it being Uriel makes it sketchy
I can see it leaning either way tbh
if it was Uriel I don't see why they'd beat around the bush so much
Cause Uriel has the coolest design B)
I think it’s similar with how Temple didn’t have much of a reveal of them getting a protoframe version. That could be what’s happening
Yeah probably
I guess, but they actively are avoiding confirming it being uriel
They just haven’t showed off the 3rd so they can actually have something to show us
It is odd that Albrecht when talking to Uriel says Uriel
Which
Does that mean it’s similar to a Flare/Temple situation?
Is Uriel both the proto and the frame?
Is it more purposeful this time?
And since Uriel is a devil warframe, I find it odd he'd be a protoframe as well?
I actually had a theory on that Uriel could be similar as Flare/Temple, but we’ll have to see
It isn’t that odd tbh
It’s the Devil’s Triad
yeah except Uriel is clearly shown as a warframe on the poster
Cyte was a Proto and a frame we got same with Temple
I don’t think it’ll be the exact same thing but we shall see
If Uriel never gets a protoframe, can we have Hildryn protoframe? (Thematically probably should be Equinox)
and Uriel is judged as a warframe
I mean we have one teaser to go off of, it’s not that much info
We don’t even know if they’ll be in 1999
They were shown in the labs
The only info we have is what DE have said and shown
right
We have
3 protos
Devilframe
Uriel judging the Orokin
And they’re dateable
I wish we get a concept art release of Marie. Hers not being released like Lyon makes suspicious she may have really important info
I mean they may just be not wanting to show too much atm
Assuming it is Uriel I feel they’re gonna just add both
Lyon’s stuff had a lot of info iirc
It did, but also not alot to go off on
I mean it is most likely Uriel
I just find it odd that they'd refuse to confirm such a likely outcome for the 3rd Protoframe being Uriel, if they actually want to surprise us it would make a lot more sense to make us think its Uriel then show another warframe instead
I do think it’ll be Uriel because it wouldn’t make sense to have the Devil’s Triad not have a devil
Didn’t they do this with Temple too though? :?
Thus it would make sense to refuse to confirm it being uriel
Didn’t they hide the 3 other Protos last batch
Yeah they did
you think they'd do the same thing twice?
Unless the Triad exists to keep the devil contained
For some reason
Which whomever Uriel is
Why would Albrecht ask if the Orokin can be forgiven from them
To me since we are talking about sins, Kullervo fits the bill a whole lot more to be a 3rd party to judge the Devil
I mean Lyon and Marie have to be from 1999 originally
But Uriel? They have knowledge of the Orokin, they have to
They’re not judging the devil, the devil is judging the Orokin
I can see that, especially with those one line of dialogue in the trailer, but I have theory Uriel is gonna be a last resort released on Drifter because we’ll be the “real” devil they’re talking about. It sorta lines up with Albrecht asking Uriel forgiveness because we’re probably gonna coming in like that one WWE moment and he asking Uriel help but Uriel hates the Orokin
Right, but you get what I mean, Kullervo is the sinner, but also someone who punishes himself, to pass his judgement on the orokin would be a pretty strong move
werent they in sanctum anatomica in trailer? if so, they probly can be capsuled by albrecht in 1999 and discovered by cavia in current era
I do feel Uriel maybe actually from the future like a reverse of Flare/Temple
Why would the Drifter be the devil?
He also isn’t asking Uriel for help but just if they can be forgiven
and yeah it wouldn't make any sense for the 3 to be in 1999, since thus is after the whole orokin ordeal and orokins weren't a thing (or called as such) in 1999
Marie and Lyon gotta be from 1999 because i think the dualism beliefs got a weird shift due to the Orokin
Uriel, the heretic of truth is being asked if the Orokin can be forgiven
I personally think that, while Uriel will be the third Proto, he'll have something different compared to the normal ones.
Because of their ties to the Void, which inadvertently connects us to our favorite wall man
Problem: they have to survive 18 radiation wars-
What that difference may be is speculation.
That doesn’t make us a devil :p
The tenno were referred to that by Ballas as an insult not due to our connection to the void
It looks like it yes.
Marie and Lyon could be from 1999, but somehow got to the future to contain Uriel?
just throw stuff in the void
voila
Also, assuming they are revealed in the Old Peace and aren't put in a separate mini quest (which I find unlikely since that's not something really done by DE before)
But nobody has physical access to the void in 1999, not even Albrecht
Wasn’t it an insult due to our connection to the Void
Could mean that they won't be in 1999
No, it’s cause his wife loved us at all
In the first place
It doesn’t exactly make us the devil, but because the connection it doesn’t mean they’ll think so too. Operator isn’t a demon yet Ballas constantly refers them as such
also what's more to my kullervo theory is that Kullervo was judged by the orokin themselves, and then Uriel will judge the Orokin, wouldn't it make it a full circle to have Harrow, Wisp, Uriel and Kullervo in the same room?
They’re specifically part of a side story called the devil’s triad
Eleanor went to the Void though
Because Ballas hated us-
Mentally, not physically.
Which I once again ask, like last time, was the wording ever more than "an Entrati side-story"? Because that doesn't confirm or deny it being in the same quest.
There is, arguably, a difference
I don’t think it can be the same quest since the old peace takes place in like
Literal memories???
Kaya portals can transfer around time, so probly Albrecht have same tech
It being a side story implies it’s on the side
We also see things happening in the Sanctum at the end of the Demo
I mean they can mcguffin him to do whatever tbh
true
I think it being called Entrati side story means we’re gonna know what Albrecht been up to. Plus it’s probably gonna be similar to Jade’s Shadows where that was a side story for Operator
Yeah, that’s where we do the memory bath
Exactly. It's most likely going to be similar to Whispers.
With a bigger emphasis on the memory part.
I mean I just doubt the triad will be part of the old peace quest specifically
Finally a reason to open the locked doors
Question is, which one are we unlocking 
My guess is they’ll only unlock one door and not both
But it could be one door leads to the memory bath and the other to wherever the triad is being held
I’m guessing left
And if they’re in the present then we’ll get an explanation as to how
One door is the bath. The other is Loid’s secret floof room
Loids bedroom tour when?
Ignore everything I said this is the canon answer
*Loid and Albrecht’s bedroom
“I was judged by the Orokin.”
“I judged the Orokin.”
Albrecht left so it isn’t his anymore
“I think I miss my Husband, Drifter.”
The difference being that Shadow's was it's own quest. Either the Triad is unconnected to the Old Peace and will be explained away with an inbox message (not much of an side "story"), or it requires it's own quest, then why is it part of the same update?
I wonder if Albrecht went back to Deimos would he become the head of the family again automatically or would the fact Mother currently is stop that
I think he’d let Mother keep the position
Enjoy his retirement with Loid
That’s why I’m comparing to Shadows because it’ll probably be like that despite not connecting to the main story
Ok so Uriel was banished, is the heretic of Xata (truth) and is specifically being asked if the Orokin can be forgiven
So whomever Uriel is was presumably banished by the Orokin likely for stating their heretical truths and for whatever reason Albrecht is asking specifically them if the Orokin can be forgiven for their crimes
So
who the heck is Uriel
If they’re a protoframe I’m not sure they can be from 1999 if they have enough knowledge on the Orokin that they can judge them, what truths did they spout? I mean if it’s what they were banished for by the Orokin it could literally be anything about them
Maybe the Protoframe will be in 1999
The frame in modern day
I can definitely see Mother giving him constant sass at every moments notice
in 1999 there are no orokins afaik
and those proto knon bout them
i believe protos will be in current era for some reason. Or in the old peace memories
The Devil’s Triad is it’s own chapter in the Old Peace update, specifically an Entrati Side-Story
No Orokin in 1999 anymore the golden king of Void research left
I really doubt they’d be in the memories for 2 reasons
- They’re romancable so uh. No
- I don’t believe that works with the timeline, mostly cause the memories are in Tau
Probably just gonna get mail about them
In 1999 we have ORO
Which has shady ties to all kinds of governments and def seems to be the Proto-Orokin but that’s the best we got
Like the last 4
Probably, the triad will be it’s own chapter of the update but I doubt it’ll be as connected as some think
DE always hide 1 Proto even though we knew it was gonna be what became Temple last batch
I think the protos, somehow making it to modern day makes sense since Uriel is seen fully transformed and I doubt they would know of the Orokin if they were from 1999
Yeah, they likely just wanna hide it for hype
Or it’s not done yet lol
I mean they have a lot to focus on atm and we don’t have the full scope of what’s done so Uriel’s protoframe not being completed yet makes sense as an explanation 
Plus before that we have the modding quest
Indecisive discord loading strikes again
Wally strikes again.
I really hope Old Peace will actually give us a reason to go to Tau because all we have rn is Albrecht went there
In my orbiter randomly taking up space
Most arguments for going to Tau is players going “it’d be cool”
Wally only appears sitting on the armrest of the completely normal office chair floating in the middle of my backroom
Get out of my room void demon I’m playing Minecraft
Wally can appear in backroom? Havent meet them here yet
Can if you let him
He can appear on the chair
Bought from velimir
The Chair
The chair of delays
ah i c
Miss Wally, gonna buy chair right now
Wally really getting put in the chair
I got a chair in the air and a table in the wall
which one? office?
The one that really tries to say it’s perfectly safe
ngl thats the chair i wanna seat
True
Moth
Möth Frame when
Jade
Narmer, Narmer, Narmer!
Flies
Makes light
=moth
She is the lämp
there was moth-like yareli prime color scheme in couple days in #fashion-frame
I am now hoping Uriel protoframe is an older guy and is voiced by Simon Templeton (va for Kain in the Legacy of Kain series and Loghain in Dragon Age: Origins). He would be perfect for a devilish character in Warframe
DE please. This would be so awesome
I'm impressed that I managed to misread that as j. k. simmons somehow
Honestly, that would make so many Spider-Man themes with J.K. Simmons 
He voiced the best bg3 boss, wf already has multiple people who also voice acted for bg3, there's a small chance
ok if uriel gets a protoframe who is an older man, DE pulls michael wincott(VA for death in darksiders 2) out from where ever he is to VA urielproto, is what i predict
OOOOH YES!!! Either one I would love
I was thinking about the Old Peace demo and the recent quests, and it occurred to me: I really hope this quest isn't too fast-paced. Some of the recent ones, even when they introduce big changes to the status quo, have felt too abrupt to really sink in (Angels of the Zariman and Whispers in the Walls felt like that to me, cool as they were overall), and the whole scenario of The Old Peace seems so cool that I really hope we have some time to linger, see what this Tenno-Sentient world is like, get some actually meaty character work. The demo, since it has to fit in Tennocon, covers quite a lot of ground quite quickly, awesome as it all was, so I just hope it isn't too brisk!
The Hex was somewhat slower and more fleshed out so I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
Oh! Micheal Bell (va for Raziel for LoK) could be good too depending if Uriel is a bit younger
tbf zariman is like the epilouge to new war while walls was the begining of a new saga
i seriously doubt old peace wont be shorter then an hour
LoK?
Legacy of Kain for short. Sorry
im hoping its nearly new war level length
probably 2hrs if 1. their gonna put a lot of meat on it, 2. they've been working on it since whispers in the background, 3. if it also sets up how both drifter and operator will get to tau
cause on one hand i don't expect it to be new war long
and on the other i do expect operator to get the same amount of screen time as drifter
they're*
whispers in the walls* (not background lmao)
pretty sure its supposed to just be some more operator love since we already got 1999 and duviri
i was using whispers as short hand
cause from what I heard its like reliving memories the operator had with the orokin
i can see that
they have the opportunity to show us memories pre jump accident as well
id love some pre-jump zariman scenes
if we get focus ultimates and one (assuming theres more than one) gives us lore accurate warframe attack that would be sick
me: sorta low on energy and health, struggling, notices ultimate just got full
my limbo: does that funny magic user ascend thing and deletes everything in a huge area around me, probably leaving the living ones in the rift and severely weakened
I was imagining we'd have 1 ultimate per focus school rather than per Warframe?
nah he's just gonna chuck a steam roller at em
that or like 2 per school
considering theres 2 waybound abilities per school
well currently
Oh yeah we still have 3 and 4 open on Operators
It's gonna be interesting to see what the ults are in the end: according to Reb I think the one we saw, the huge sword, was Naramon, which is a little funny coming from the "School of the Tacticians". What the heck is Madurai gonna be lol
naramon is also the melee focused school, as for madurai probably a nuke
unairu drop a mountain on someone
vazuran a tsunami or a support ability
zenerik infinite energy for like 1 min
Zenurik might also be cc focused considering the second ability
if they make 2 ults for each school then one can be dmg the other support
Hopefully the windup animation from the demo was cinematic and not the actual in-mission activation speed. "I swing my absolutely huge sword and hit... nothing because the rest of the team already cleared the next three rooms."
well the fourth ability on warframes is their ultimate but yeah
Yeah that would be awkward lol
Considering the presence of the cannon and the specific usage of the sword in the moment I'm guessing it's cinematic, to introduce the existence of the new system, and the actual ability will be more streamlined
I was telling my friend about my ideas for Uriel’s va and he mentioned Sam Witwer could potentially fit Uriel. I say maybe a young Uriel, but I think he could do it well.
Sam Witwer?
Clone Wars Darth Maul?
He could do a middle aged Uriel too
Yeah!! I even thought of that too. But it would still count as young tbh. Honestly I’m just hoping Uriel is an older guy maybe similar age as Velimir and Minerva
I feel like Uriel being an older guy would make more sense than maybe a 20 year old. Especially since Marie and Lyon look around their 20s already
I want him to be several hundreds of years old 
I’ll take it as long he looks like he has grey hairs
A question: given that, by the time of Ballas’ invasion of the Sol system in The New War, Parvos Granum was the top dog in the Corpus, why did anyone on the Board let Alad coordinate Corpus efforts to push back the Sentients?
In one of the Corpus Ship tileset Spy rooms, we can literally see a chopped up Ropalolyst in the room, so clearly the Board knew of Alad’s ill fated “partnership” with the Sentients
Thats the thing they didnt know
Alad's background dialogue in the tileset's speakers and his partnership fragments point to him keeping it well under wraps
Parvos isn't the top, it's still a fight between him and the rest of the board
I think there was an interview where they said "Drifter has a reason to go to Tau, Old Peace will give the Operator one"
the board infighting is business as usual
The 2026 Tau quest will probably be that length, Old Peace probably will just be Whispers-sized
which begs the age old question how are both of those clowns gonna be there at same time
If the quest is New War sized, we probably have an act of Drifter dealing with Albrecht, and then Operator deals with Adis
Like in the present day drifter shows up to tau to deal with albrecht and the operator relives the past in that same area?
No, Old Peace is Operator reliving it
Both Drifter and Operator are confirmed to go to present Tau in 2026
Ah
@ancient quail I got the Embracer Ephemera (the ghost-like spider legs) from the 1999 segment and it drops randomly from one of the Infested Boy Band Liches
Was Drifter?
Pretty sure in an interview
I recall them discussing maybe revisiting Drifter later and I wanna say it was vague on whether or not they’d be going to Tau
Which I would assume Operator has to go since they’ve been there and if Adis is alive then they need to talk to them
But Drifter doesn’t have any connection with Tau
I mean physically they can’t go together but I would assume you can choose normally for like
Missions and such
Yeah that actually might be all they meant
I don't think they ever explicitly said anything about it being storywise, so that might've just been me reading into it a bit too deeply
Like for sci-fi tropes, warframe has most of the em except actual E.T.'s
Probably not going to happen
But what if the 2026 Tau quest is different depending on whether you're using Operator or Drifter?
I think they're averse to the idea of actual aliens
Drifter has a reason to go to Tau
To find Entrati (because he mentioned it the last time Drifter saw him; doesn't really matter rn if he's actually there or not)
Operator will have a reason coming with the Old Peace
Probably something to do with Adis
I think it would be reasonable for the narrative to split here
Or maybe they do 2 different quests, one for each
Idk
Maybe
Doesn't really make sense considering only one of those clowns can go + we don't really know if that was the real entrati at the end of the hex
One at a time
Until proven otherwise, imma stick with my theory of Drifter goes after entrati and finds aliens and Maybe pulls a commander Shepard
I seriously doubt we'll ever see genuine E.T.s
It's been long established that everything in Warframe has a human origin
Closest thing we have to an alien is the Infestation, we don't know its origins (but probably humans just experimenting and not thinking it through)
Now, maybe there's a colony out there that has evolved so radically different from humans that they could qualify as "extraterrestrial"
But that would be it
aside from the Infestation, which is ambiguous, yes
I think it would be funny if it was just a random mutation of an Earth fungus
Not alien, but not man-made either
Murmur and Infestation are probably fairly close to what we have as aliens tbh
how many murmurs do i need to kill to get all the known requiems?
<thinks DE would find a justifible reason to add actual aliens and make em hot>
🤨
why wouldn't that be the real entrati?
especially after isleweaver, where wally's angry about losing hollvania the whole time
Occams razor and all that
Its presented to be entrati
He's there to goad the drifter into caring about the hex
The Kalymos Sequence is only completed AFTER saving them
According to Wiki, potentially 180? But attempting to kill your Lich will increase it significantly. Sisters also take a lot less because the Hounds give more-- but the Hounds also spawn less than Thralls.
A multitude of Requiem Murmurs will update the Adversary's status screen, revealing part of the Requiem Mod combination that will prove fatal to the Adversary. The number of Murmurs needed for each reveal can vary but average to 36, 60, and 84 with the total being approximately 180 Murmurs[4] Note that Murmurs will only reveal the Requiem Mods required to kill the Adversary, not the order they are needed to be in. Players will need to figure out the order by trial-and-error during Adversary encounters in missions.
he doesn't look like he got the shit beaten out of him
he's missing the wally eyes though. something we've only seen with rusalka - as wally is directly possessing her, not just appearing as her
in the earlier scene of wally arguing as albrecht and loid in the interrogation room, they both have the black/purple eyes, just as when he appears as the operator
i don't have an exact explanation for him not being injured like we saw him earlier, but its one minor point against several in the opposite direction
That's the ONLY point people ever bring up
Given Albrecht's experience with having to regrow his freaking skin, I think it's safe to say he now carries some sort of Orokin first aid kit at all times
aight, who's gonna give me my No-Prize?
Welp i tryed to clear all the planets so far so thats why i did not see any..
what?
Albrecht also teleports around, something HE is capable of, not just Wally
No wonder Viktor is so endlessly frustrated with trying to catch him (beyond him not actually being in 1999 to be caught anymore)
Im doing all the posible missions on evry planet
Why?
@ancient quail but like why though? Are you new? If so I would not recommend it.
Like I get if you've played for a while and wanna do it just don't do it immediately.
Eeh 100 hours in it and im waiting on my friend, hes building a pc and i tought i pass the time with it
Uuuuh i belive yea i completed all the main quest so i should be..
But i cant tell rn im not home xd
It's steel path
From teshin? Then no xd
You know it's easier to unlock that now right?
Anyway Arby's you unlock the same way.
Huh... Alr ill check it out
Btw.. is there a vc here on this server?
Or i dont have it unlocked or smth?..
I don't think so?
Arby's are unlocked with the Eris junction
They definitly already have it.
They are?
Yes
I belive i have it but im not sure
If you finished the quests you definitly have it
The main quest is done and some of the side ones i belive so ye
You have to have access to Pluto to start the War Within and the Junction reward for Arbi's is just to equip a focus lens
At worst, you might not have claimed the reward
gone
stolen by wally
Uhm… Natah?
Discount natah
Not my lich btw
It’s still strange that their name is similar to an important character
Random name is random
A shame that there will never be another bopp bipp tho
iirc they changed the generator
Ah
But hey now we got codas and they can have funny names too
Like fighting for squirrel or peel code worm
My friend got the hard R before they patched that
Once saw a zeke coda named ilovepizza somewhere
Hey everyone! Just wondering what is this item?
How hilariously fitting to the current topic
That's the thing you use to spawn a coda
just notice the chat lol im returning to the game so im trying to get caught up on the hex
Get a coda they're worth it
on it! ill google how to do this now lol
Oh it's simple
You just stab them with antivirus mods from the antivirus bounties until you get the right one
ohhhh okay! so i picks up the mixtape and its giving me directions but when i follow them, the waypoint goes behind me
Some tiles are weird with waypoints
It's trying to guide you to one of those consoles that scaldra use to call reinforcements
I got the technocyte Coda! so now i just do missions and stab it? or is there a way to find the correct symbols like the Kuvas and sisters?
you can use up to 3 anti viruses at once, so you can find the right one in 3 or so stabs, once you found the right one, remove the 2 others and put potency mods to desinfect faster
@gilded sierra so 1 out of the 8 will work? doesnt matter what order?
Yes, no
Just start stabbin until it tells you you got the right one
thats so much butter than kuvas and sisters!
"We have Natah at orbiter"
Natah at orbiter:
Real
not-ah
Is it possible to get a sister with a title type of name?
Example: [insert corpus name] of Parvos
No
Their page does have their current corporate title tho
Which iirc changes as you mess up and level them up
Yes which is why they can't have title-type names
Coda have the weirdest names
Can I get help getting harrow prime systems
#squad-recruitment should be able to help you : )
Harrow Prime is currently Vaulted. His relics are unavailable, but they may return in the monthly Prime Resurgence. Additionally, you can check a source like warframe.market where people trade items for Platinum.
Ok ty
first possible coda weapon. good pick?
I recommend waiting until the damage is 60%
Or at least 55 if you don't need to be perfect
I like 53+, can be made 60 with a single fusion and I can wait for a good element on the fusion fodder.
Vices made that a waste of currency tho
Yes and no. Boybands are comparatively quick and if you're farming cosmetics randomly you'll likely end up with buckets of spare currency for Eleanor. I'd rather spend the vices for older weapons that might have changed builds at the moment.
How do I get to play Lizzie as a Shawzin? I read on Reddit that it's an option?
good ending of Flare's chats
I have that
Finish Flare's stuff
you should've gotten an email w/ Lizzie then
i believe your first shawzin always comes with the emote, and there should be an option somewhere while its active to swap which shawzin you're using
Ooohh okay
I'll give that a try thank you!
every shawzin comes with the emote except the duviri earned shawzin and I think the iridos
once you get "best friends" status with them and they say you can borrow lizzie every now and again (pretty sure you have to accept) you'll get it in the mail not to long after.
The Duviri shawzin also gives the emote.
it didnt back when I got it
I would know, it was my only Shawzin until Lizzie
so i assumed it hadn't changed
They made all Shawzin's give the emote a while back, so not having it is a bug.
is the finger on the Zariman the original or yet another clone?
Replica
If it was the original you’d see Wally going for it and he never does
well, there are no 60s in last 2 months i believe, wait can be quite long for pretty light stats improvement
Where is the original
Do we know will we know
We don’t know if we’ll know
I hope we get to know
do we know what creatures the fingers came from?
the... reliquary finger?
yeah
wally?
like we've long known that the reliquaries are copies of wally's finger
oh dang
You can even look at his hand and see
I have the emote I just didnt get it from the duviri shawzin
They’re all clones of the finger that got cut off Wally when albrecht first encountered him and closed the gate to the void on his hand
Ah that’s right
waves:
I wonder, if lotus has a Wally Version now,
wally is prolly able to mimic her, but if so, we haven't seen it
Just as a Stupid Idea, maybe The Old Peace is a Wally Illusion, Just A theory
no reason for it to be
- in a few days we'll have caliban prime as a direct result of the old peace actually happening
fair enough
gonna Use the Natah Skin When I am playing through the Old peace, for fact I chose her, at first, then bought Margulis
just to see if they make a Different Scene for the Different Lotuses,
Man, I forgot How the Natah Skin Looks
Yeah it'll be weird plugging into Natah instead of Lotus
that certainly looks like natah
When is it coming to android
Ask DE
Probably early 2026 if it’s going into closed beta
Ok so im on second dream and I got told to move to spoiler for this so imma continue here
what even is this? And is this just pure-lore, or does it affect my gameplay?
you pick one to start, and you can unlock the others later!
this is alot to take in vro 🥀
you can unlock the others?? How? :hmm
does it need platinum?
getting lens for the other trees via the open worlds, and attaching them to weapons/frames
Once you have enough focus gathered using a lens, you can unlock the school
Just pick Zenurik. That one deals with energy.
Or Unairu, if you want to self-revive with any frame
ok neato
Zenurik is the most immediately useful for someone who got the system unlocked. Last Gasp is when you've got a decent enough Amp to actually kill stuff with Operator
neato thanks for tip
i just did the hex and i didnt understand a few things:
- is albretch possessed by wally?
- why did my timer went from jan1 to oct5?
No he isnt, not yet at least
Back from jan 1 2000 to oct 5 1999
Undoing the new years basically
oh because i was from dec 31, then i did the quest with the amazing "again" slam from duviri, back to jan 1 1999, then i was in my room just chilling it went to oct 5 1999
unless im seeing things
Oh wait yeah when you finish you basically enter the normal rotation
The season, probably
Rn it might be autumn
Quest dates are separate from the normal ongoing rotation
oh so its in game dating and not me being back to be close to the date of the quest to redo it?
because i havent done nothing yet
Yeah each irl week is a set of 3 months
i apparently now need to get close w all the members bc apparently wally weakness is power of friendship lol
And as you progress in the calendar objectives said date advances
Eventually resetting the year
It's been
Yup
Since Wally came out.
i mean yes
It's not new.
i only now understood that from the witw quest
It happens in the labs as well as stuff.
i might've missed the whole weakness thing in previous quests but yeah
but i understood it in the whisper's quest
🤔 so I'm curious what talents for operator and warframe we will gain in old peace, that shattered that big gun like a butter.
I think he’s dealing with Wally like us, but Wally is actively trying to possess him because he definitely knows where the og finger is.
What than we will have items to obtain for that purpose
in the prelude to war, near the end of the 3rd cutscenes she says, referring to ballas: "he's one of them, isn't he? a maker" like she's just realizing that but he was introduced as a maker in the 2nd cutscene. like was that just an oversight or am I just missing something here, it seems like DE messed up there
They probably kept layering the brainwashing to keep her down
She’s struggling with her memories
Even drifter told that to sentient big guy, the Ballas and his son will always do over and over again capturing the lotus for some stupid reason Ballas wanted.
And lotus will lose herself if it happens again.
Which even when you are near her in deimos necralisk, she will tell something
I know from the old war she struggles, but ballas was introduced as a maker to her and then shortly after she acts like that's new information that she's just realizing herself
oh like the one on the railjack?
i had to google that one
Yeah, the one in the Railjack is a copy of his finger
Near loid in necralisk there is a computer logs, of who Ballas,lotus,drifter,operator and even other informations of what was going on and who they all are.
But nobody knows where the actual location is, except Albrecht. So that’s why Wally is constantly chasing him
Of what location
I’m talking about Wally’s og finger. Only Albrecht knows the location of it
ohh i see
What albrecht did to that finger
i might lost some info but in the railjack quest it’s the first time we see it right?
my keeping up w wally lore is horrible
If Albrecht knew the location so would Wally he’s literally had plenty of time to take it from Albrecht
Railjack quest is kinda the first introduction of seeing Wally’s finger. I think in WitW is where we find out about something more of the finger iirc. Could be Zariman quest, but I have the same problem trying to remember everything lol
I 3eaded some logs from computer about operator and he somehow try to bring back itself to be a great master to go back to TAU, somehow something big will happen there.
i might just go on the wiki or something to get it
I think it’s been said Albrecht has been fighting off Wally fairly well and not get possessed like Rusalka.
But rusalka is in isleweaver
I would use the wiki to double check. There’s some quests that are also replayable too
the albrecht entries is where we learn the most about the finger
Albrecht hasn’t been fighting at all he just runs
oh yeah i would but idk if i have the patience haha
That's it il go watch again old peace and the albrecht stuff of what happened before that.
Explanation: Who is Natah?
She's lotus
in more detail please
She is the original identity of the Sentient that became Lotus.
lore please
Spread throughout Natah to The New War
albeit there are some details in NW that aren't very clear
where should I start
Natah is the first quest that tells us about, well, Natah
I'd start there
Then work through the quests
Don't use the wiki for lore
If you haven’t gone through the quests yet, i definitely suggest to stay away from the wiki as much as possible.
i have lol
Gone through the quests or used the wiki?
Probably both
Well guys I wonder the deimos is like some big building,that got separated from what area,knowing the fact loid and albrecht getting orokins angrier and angrier.
deimos is a moon of mars
No, it’s a moon of Mars like it is irl
@steep delta natah is lotus' original sentient identity that lotus is. She's a sentient mimic queen.
istg she and lettie were kissing in the bar if not that idk what would that be
1 Big QUESTION in Old peace will we meet and lotus,natah and even their parents o.o
We’ve already met Hunhow
Praghasa’s a corpse in current day
I doubt we’ll meet Natah tbh but it may depend on how vital Lotus is here
I’ve seen the theory she was Adis which is definitely a theory
Also ofc Hunhow and his family will go to the Origin System, destroy the rail and eventually Natah infiltrates the tenno (very rough timeline)
we might see natah before she was meant to "burrow into the nest"
the vitruvian has part of her in it, which could imply she already existed?
Tbh the timescale is so large she may have only been made at the tail end of the old peace
I mean
She’s like. The perfect spy, so why make a spy?
My guess is the Tenno were already or had recently become the “enemy” to the sentients
Then Hunhow and/or Praghasa made Natah
could she have been made to counter the separatists? maybe just "repurposed" for the tenno
prolly a bit of a stretch
Maybe
We might find out in the old peace
Maybe, it really depends on if she existed yet and if that info is important
Which, and I never thought of this before
The tenno are older than their adoptive mother
oh.
It doesn’t really change anything it’s just kinda
oh
huh
Huh
I mean she may have more conscious experience (we were in cryosleep for at least 1k years)
But from a chronological perspective
The tenno predate their adoptive mother
It’s possible. If not the actual case
I mean it should be the case, no?
We don’t now when exactly Natah came into existence, do we? But it’s more than likely that the Tenno predate Natah
We know the sentients left before the zariman but we don’t know when Natah was made, but it was likely when the sentients got there so
The Tenno predate Natah?
natah at the earliest would have to be made during the old war
previously mentioned spy purposes
and the tenno already existed at that point, even if they were lost in the void at that time
How much days left until winter.
It resets Sunday.
Yeah, I really wish they’d give us a concrete answer on how long the Zariman was gone for
Cause we have that one codex entry that says “days” but
Idk if that works
We also have the assumption afaik where the tenno were in cryosleep after they were rescued which would leave enough time for the war to start up if it didn’t while they were in the void
Plus we have the saying that zariman will be there 1 last time and it's tenno duty to protect it from grineers and corpus
That’s recent
The Zariman has disappeared and reappeared many different times
Aha and a bridge between orokin and other side
The Origin System and Duviri in the void yes
But I'm curious o.o how will tenno go there.
Go where?
Tau
Maybe answers will be in old peace quest
wasn't it something like
zariman fails
days after zariman gets back to origin and the tenno are rescued
right after they're rescued the zariman dissapears again for God knows how long till it appears again on new war quest ?
o.o
I wonder if the Railjack could go the long way to Tau
From what I recall it disappeared and reappeared a couple times
The important moments are the first time it disappeared and reappeared and the last time it reappeared
I'm more bamboozled where that Ballas was appeared,when operator was near lotus in Lua copernicuss mission quest.
Where was that Ballas all the time.
we all hope old peace will reveal that
yeah
the first mention i remember of the tenno after the zariman incident/ember prime codex is rhino prime's codex
says that they're in "a cold place with an array of shelves"
and that the zariman had already "never returned"
older lore, so grain of salt, but yk
On the Moon guarding the prisoner
What prisoner did he guarded.
Umbra
Excalibur
Damn no wonder tenno took over that warframe the umbra
But what that umbra did,so he became a prisoner.
Good old espionage
tried to expose ballas
Huh how he would expose,when he was smarter than any of them,just like he did to teshin dad.
Wait umbra was teshin dad o.o
what
And that kid was sitting right side when Ballas was playing that chess with him.
Isaah?
Yep
that doesn't change the past, it just helps Umbra accept it
Isaah still died there
and I'm curious how Ballas transferred him into warframe.
Umbra was converted into a warframe the normal way
helminth
transferred ?
oh so u don't know the warframes lore
Oh we have answer for that already by deimos

But I'm curious will old peace reveal us how they made warframes or not.
...
All umbra got was his special bolt and his cool U Prime decals
we already know
we already know how they made warframes??
on the worst way possible
we know
But they never showed us that of how it was made.
You get this from the Sacrifice
I don't wanna see that happening tbh 
They told us and showed us indirectly
Also
Literally the protoframes
I want o.o
Wait while we at protoframes
we have this
-# don't mind the translations, its directly from the wiki
Thst nun and that priest will they appear in some quest.
Is this good enough?
side quest
No, side story
Oh I wonder o.o what they are cooking.
devil frame with the devil triad
but devil frame also on the banner of old peace
hmmmm 
The devils triad relates to Entrati
Literally just cause it’s same update lol
So how much until winter.
4 months
I believe you can see it on the calendar
depending on region
"winter" is a bit vague
That’s fair actually
The seasons have also been getting weirder
Can the Orokin ever be forgiven?
Nah they were killed years ago and the others already have a fate worse than death it’s just you left
imagine the devil frame appears on old peace 
-_- so no fun in the next 3 to 4 months, maybe by that time I finish buying all the stuff from deimos,Venus and earth of eidolon.
there's still unannounced 2025 update, with the mod quest & teshin intro
I mean they could technically, we still don’t know if we only had primes during it
The Devil frame already appears in Old Peace
Wym
I'm 100% expecting the devstream of september to end and DE be like
The update will be live, RIGHT NOW
So 2 quests
It’ll likely be October
He’s one of the triad members
2 quests and 1 side story

feels so short for DE to launch 2 updates so soon
Oh you meant the update not in the past 
nah they'll probably hit us with the silksong release date
It’s on par tbh
That’s been revealed
Maybe to catch sleeping like a bear for 3 months
We need a new game that will never come out
i mean the 'yeah two weeks lmao' bit
i'd say half life 3 but that's just Actually Never Happening
fair enough
if DE think they can do it
I'm not saying otherwise 
I have confidence in Rebb and her team
Literally me if that happens:

same vibes as captain america lifting mjornir and three spider man on screen
everyone:
btw
actually dumb take
since old peace is somewhere around when warframes were made
would we see some protos in the old peace memory ?
maybe that's why DE didn't announce the third protoframe
bc it'll be the devil protoframe that will appear on the quest
probably not
i don't think the person to warframe process was widely known, and a proto would expose that
- the batches albrecht used for the protos were likely modified to transform them slower than usual
Other highly improbable protoframe options: That corpus guy, Velcro, or whatever his name was. Limbo or Gauss maybe?
the corpus guy was never a warframe tho
so he can't be a proto
Arthur wasn't a proto either before he got injected
I'm thinking of weird possibilities for the NPCs that could become protos if Albrecht went wild in Origin with his variants.
Figure we could convince Alad to get infested a second time?
... not sure I want to be bouncing around inside Alad's head though.
I'm expecting all the new protos to appear in the Old Peace quest to be honest.
one of the interview with megan she said that
"it's not like you doing old peace and wisp is going to show up"
so Idk
she only mentioned wisp tho 
wouldn't really be a side-story then
Which one. Currently the only quote I know is that the Devil's Triad is an "entrati side-story" which is vague enough that it doesn't confirm or deny either way.
I need the context for this wisp quote to see how it would work.
I already explained my logic on that before.
Only said Wisp
Means Harrow proto is definitely making an appearance 
It's just that making it it's own side-quest would be illogical because why would you make it part of the update
And it being an inbox message
Is not much of a side-story
I mean
They’ll also have all their KIM dialogue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_3EMeb59wY&t=1201s
jump to 19:43
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Live...
but also yea
they were actually talking abt the romance.... kinda
Which if it’s romance related then that side story involves Drifter, not the Operator
Which Old Peace is more so about the Operator
good point
How many interview are there, I thought I've heard of all of them and then bam! Another interview, lol.
think the difference that isn't being pointed out is old peace(quest) and old peace(update)
True, but that's where the side-story aspect comes on play.
I kinda wish they’d make an announcement about them
The KIM chats concerning the Drfiter
And their appearance in the quest will be minor (if not necessarily unimportant)
If the Devil’s Triad is somehow in the Sanctum then I can see them appearing briefly in the quest itself tbh
Yeah, that's my point
If they’re not in the Sanctum they likely won’t appear
But we do have 2 mystery doors in the Sanctum!
If they are in 1999 they are definitely not in the quest, yes
doubt it will be during the quest
we abt to go relive memories
devil trial appears
so we going to 1999 real quick brb
doesn't elaborate further
operator gets linked to lotus
we dream
that's one of the only ones i know of lmao
because people were using it as evidence that you can romance one of the new 3 and one of the original hex at the same time, even though megan doesn't really answer that question, as far as i can tell?
will probably be something post quest
maybe like hex vs hex(finale)
Lmao
I wanna say they said it was post-quest but I’m unsure
I mean, isn't the background in the Devil's Triad teaser the Sanctum (or something resembling it)?
Wait what lol
Oh it is!
maybe the tactical potato interview?
Maybe, I did see that one
I do wonder if the Devil’s Triad story will give us some details on Albrecht’s whereabouts
Probably
I’m still curious who Uriel is 👁️
For now we don't even know why he's talking of Tau
I hope so
Since
His location is unknown
He is an Orokin so
(Although I like the Theory that's it's due to the Operators actions in the Old Peace quest, as long as that quest gives us an actual reason to look for Albrecht in Tau unrelated to 1999)
Which I wanna say they said Old Peace is basically the other option to 1999
Like newer players get to pick Drifter’s story or Operator’s story
i still think it's something related to archon shards or whatever produces them
btw
at the art pannel at tennolive when they were talking abt creating a devil frame
I remember someone saying that "how to create a devil frame if they are such a cool person"
it kinda confirms uriel as the 3rd frame ?
Yeah, they said it was going to be available right after Lotus Eaters
He's also one of the Orokin who is least likely to be concerned about Tau, unless there's something about it that will help with Wally.
Maybe, the frames are also just people so 🤷♀️
And then Tau (2026) will need both 1999 and Old Peace if I'm remembering right.
Yeah so it probably won’t have any direct connection to 1999
true
but that saying seems like they have the conversations with the KIM
And then after that
Maybe the Void War 👀
Narmer! Narmer! Narmer!
I need more of my boy Pazuul
Give me a satisfactory conclusion to Narmer DE, I beg you
well they werent produced by narmer originally
i hope narmer is involved with going to tau
i don't really care how they're involved
helping/hurting/just going with us, something
(And preferably actual Sentient railjack missions)
I’d love some Narmer for Tau 2026 tbh
Yeah we need to have a reason to use those sentient specific mods lol
No, but they are the main current faction who can actually produce them, it seems (Sanctum stuff is Albrecht's old ware and I have no idea how they explain Shards in 1999)
we dont really know that they produce any
Anti-entropic energy sounds like it could be good against the void maybe??
iirc the abundance in the labs is just because the orokin kept dumping them there for him to study?
Yupp
I believe so
They just have a bunch from the old war
I just don't know how ETA gets a hold of 'em
Time repair
Maybe they fall through the cracks :?
I don’t think Kaya says anything about them
No but at the very least they have the knowledge for that since they were Sentients were the original producers (else the Orokin wouldn't be studying them if it was Orokin tech)
random thought
what would quincy think of the archon shards, i wonder
given he talks about ayatan sculptures n incarnons
Pitch that idea to the writers, I can see him talking about that
I think anti-entropic Shards would be relatively tame to him to be honest
Like, he would understand how ground breaking that is
Being surprisingly educated
Speaking of anti
What is the anti-void
But after guns eating people and sadistic memories in deco, I doubt it would surprise him
He’d probably just think it was really cool
their interactions with warframes might be weirder to him than the concept itself
'just stab these into your frame and boom, stronger'
but yeah, i can see archon shards being tamer than the other stuff
Stab a shard into Quincy, see what happens
damn, I remember a perfect image of quincy for this situation but I can't find it
the void is the anti of reality, so-
Pretty sure I'm not the only one who had this thought
But in Isleweaver, we learn the Murmur are (in theory, at least) powered by entropy
Archon Shards emit "anti-entropic radiation"
Perhaps Archon Shards could be lethal to Murmur in the same way the Void is lethal to Sentients?
And maybe we can make a big hurking sword out of Archon Shards and cut the Wall Man down to size 
paracesis 2.0
here
we
go
100 shards of any type to craft
nah just the one sticking out of pazuul
Damn, stabbed by my own trump card... again...
How do I make my backrooms brighter? Are there any decorations that give off light?
She mentioned salt and roses, I think they mostly just got emotional and cried, because Lettie has a chat that implies she doesn't like polyamory, so if you're dating her, it would be a bit odd.
Or they passionately made out because they were drunk, who knows
probably the latter
the artist who drew the hex comic drew them making out, passionately
Not that that immediately means it's canon
Basically canon
concept art for the animators who had to work out what to do with the tongue
but combined with the definitely canon discussion with Lettie on KIM... probably canon.
This still seems more likely imo
Like you can get the convo while dating one of them, and I doubt DE would make drunk cheating canon
There's no actual timeframe described in Letties KIM chat is there?
Wording of hers and el's strongly imply that it happened just before
hmm, but Eleanor's version suggests it's a Last Night thing.
it's also post Flare arriving.. though, that gets complicated with the time loop.
or maybe not... if you've not got the rank the other four are there for the full year, you just can't meaningfully talk to them
If I were to make a Gauss Protoframe, would it be too on the nose to name him Friedrich or Frederick?
And make his major angst malfunctions be that he’s, A.) insecure about his speed given that Amir’s faster than him, and B.) he’s constantly needing to ingest lethal amounts of caffeine to keep his heart running because he somehow is in a permanent Redline(like Gauss’ 4) state?
nah
its like naming excalibur's proto Arthur imo
n even then, the arthur-excalibur connection is a lot more known than a friedrich-gauss would be
to most, at least
Would it also be corny to name a Grendel protoframe Beau? I selected this name because Beau sounds similar to Beo, and Grendel’s namesake is a character from the story Beowulf
Beau would be fine too, i think
Beau Grendel makes me think he's a dandy... which would be hillarious.
Beau’s major angst malfunction is that he’s grossed out by his need to consume living(not like a vegan, but like still living Scaldra troops) things to keep himself and his squad moving
a grendel proto would probably be mortified by the fact that they're just eating people most of the time, absolutely
i'm not sure about the constant redline, though? i like the caffeine intake idea, but maybe it could be a pre-mission thing? able to keep that speed going for a mission but completely crashes after
a gauss proto would defo be an adrenaline junky
I have all these ideas for Fred/Gauss in my head, like in his adolescence he was a track star, then he broke his leg in an Accident and had to become a mechanic, and because of his ability to work on machines, Aoi and Fred would get along alarmingly well. Fred despises Amir because Amir is faster than he is and all Amir had to do was receive a Helminth dose
Why mechanic? Well because Gauss is probably the most mechanical looking of the Warframes, I thought it would be funny to make him a mechanic, that he would’ve probably tried to tinker with himself and accidentally popped Redline while trying to figure out what the panels on his arms and legs did and he can’t figure out how to turn it off, so now he’s constantly needing to keep his heart rate concerningly high or else his body will crap out on him
Either he had an Accident during high school that broke is leg, or he went into the military after high school, got his legs blown up by an IED, and then had to become a mechanic to make ends meet
Sorry for the walls of text
oo
actually, i do like that
i don't remember where the idea originated, but it was something along the lines of a gauss proto being focused on how he goes fast, in a similar tribute to his name origin
I really like the idea of Fred and Amir having a one sided rivalry, like Amir will see Fred glaring at him with pure seething malice and Amir’s just like “hey, why is Fred staring at me like he wants to break my legs?” And Fred, internally, is seething that Amir is faster than him(in reference to how, in game, Volt is a lot easier to make fast than Gauss is)
Titania and Gauss protos bonding over their shared annoyance with Amir/Volt.
-# titania's annoyance is running into walls whenever amir casts speed
-# didn't mean to imply it was the same annoyance, just that they were both annoyed
I just came to the conclusion that Proto Protea and Kaya would probably bond over time travel
It would be hilarious if ProtoProtea doesn't know anything about science at all and just "feels" the Time Travel or whatever, it's innate since she's Protea
Because I can’t contain myself when it comes to Hildryn, would a Proto Hildryn be a Scandinavian Jorge 052? Size and friendliness included
or is having serious issues because she can't figure out how to disable her 4 and stuck repeating the same five seconds over and over. Kaya, can we get a bailout please.
I just had the most beginner fanfic writer moment ever
Beau Lupin for extra corn 
A scene where the Hex are doing an operation in a civilian sector; it’s Arthur, Hildryn, and two other operatives I haven’t landed yet. It’s the end of the operation and cleanup is happening, Hildryn sees a child crying and, because my version of a Proto Hildryn is basically Jorge 052 but Scandinavian, immediately walks up to the kid, kneels down to where she’s on the kid’s level, takes off her helmet, and asks the child what’s wrong. Arthur and one of the other operatives look violently confused because not even fifteen minutes ago Hildryn just strafed a Scaldra squad, and here she is helping a small child. The other operative is acting like this is a regular occurrence. Then Hildryn walks over, child on her shoulder and tells Arthur to organize a search squad to help find the child’s mother. Before Arthur can even begin to ask questions, the other operative pipes up talking mad grief about how an entire search party to look for one civilian is a waste of resources. Hildryn grabs the operative by their shirt, lifts them up to where Hildryn is in their face(Proto Hildryn would be like two meters tall) and says something that the audience can’t hear. The other operative is doubled over trying to stifle howling laughter. Hildryn puts the operative she was yelling at down and the laughing operative barely chokes out “you got death stared, didn’t ya” before coughing to hide their laughter. Arthur decides that this is an excellent opportunity to do a hearts and minds operation, and organizes a search party. Hildryn immediately volunteers
Sorry for the massive wall of text
Second Operative (the one who doubled over laughing) is Quincy
Bet
I was thinking more Quincy would be the one getting yelled at lol
Quincy has been with Arthur longer and Hildryn was from a separate squad that joined up with the Hex a significant amount of time later(still within the same 1999 loop)
Na
Quincy helps people in his spare time
He'd be totally down for a search party
Fair
Quincy is also really good with kids
In the scene I played out in my head, the operative questioning a search party and getting subsequently death stared would have an Aussie accent, idk who to give an Aussie accent to, maybe Loki? Yeah Loki would be the mean one
I bet if Hildryn didn't comfort the kid, Quincy probably would've
Eh, maybe
I can't say I can see Loki as being mean
Maybe extremely pragmatic,
But not mean
Maybe that's because I lean a bit further in the Trickster direction for my Loki ideas
Now who would the operative who’s been around Hildryn’s impromptu hearts and minds operations be
Rhino
Wonder who a Mean Protoframe would be
chroma
Obviously Protos and Base ones don't have to share a personality so it could be anyone
Rhino was actually who I was thinking of being yelled at by Hildryn
Brilliant! Rhino would be getting death stared while Loki would be doubled over laughing because the big guy on base just got a near lethal dose of “don’t mess with legally distinct Spartan”
Yup! 
valkyrie
legally distinct spartan is styanax
Valkyr would track too
Berserker just wants to kill
Spartan as in Halo Spartan, the way I designed Hildryn’s Proto would be to basically make her a Scandinavian Jorge-052
Spartan II, then
maybe not mean, just dismissive or uninterested outside of berserker stuff
or completely dissociated, if you want to go the trauma route
Truuuue
tbf id probably be the gersemi version
so.........
same abilities
You never know
Valk proto could have been captured and skinned by ORO
oof.
Hildryn’s Proto origin story would be that she’s an orphan of war, but instead of becoming a Neci Rusalka archetype, she instead develops an extremely “bleeding heart but entirely willing to give you severe internal and external bleeding” type personality
Sounds great
To sum it up, Scandinavian Jorge-052
Given the general demographic for the protos, a Hildryn Proto is likely just a bodybuilder
Something like Zarya
The idea I had in my head is that, the instant Hildryn became of age to join the military, she did. I’m unsure of whether to make her a heavy weapons specialist because of the Larkspur, or to somehow shoehorn in an aviation angle because Aegis Gale is an augment that exists
I'm partial to Hildryn being a pro wrestler
Her and Atlas were a tag team duo
AAAAAAA YALL ARE GIVING ME SO MANY IDEAS : D : D : D
Atlas is definitely not a wrestler
Either a boxer to fit his main weapon or a geologist for earth theming
geologist built like a truck
i vibe with it
Hildryn’s Proto team would be her, Loki, Atlas, and Vauban.
Vauban would be operational lead; cold, calculating, efficient
Atlas is CQC personified, when he’s not barrel stuffing doors that look alarmingly similar to Scaldra troops, he’s picking fist fights with Techrot
Loki is recon, mouth moves faster than his brain
Hildryn is the heart of the team, she’s as proficient at soothing the worries of a lost child as she is at turning enemies into paste
Tbf the protos don't need to have anything in common with their powers either
I don't think Minerva was an expert on snakes and spores
Atlas being into rocks and minerals would be sick though
Probably the main Warframes where the personality influences their abilities are Baruuk and Valkyr,
Baruuk would be permanently, exactly five seconds away from losing his cool
Bob Odenkirk in Nobody 
I think they actually based Baruuk on John Wick, someone who doesn't want to get involved but has to
Be really funny if Valkyr was externally really chill and unflappable until she's in combat.
Would be nice to lean into the monk aesthetic
Proto Loki and Vauban I would not bank on military
ProtoAsh should be Sam Fisher from Splinter Cell
How berserkers work most of the time (afaik)
They're fairly stable until combat
Pretty sure one of Ash's deluxes actually referenced that
Either another spy like Minerva and Velemir or another kid like Kaya
I'd like to see a ProtoFrame who used to be Scaldra
Lavos
Proto Yareli and proto Nezha would probably be besties.
I could see that being Baruuk
Just stopped wanting to fight
Entrati goes "aight then"
i could see oberon for that, maybe?
And I hope older teenagers, if not 19-20 range like Kaya. Otherwise the fic would be... something I avoid like the plague.
They probably won't do Protoframes younger than Kaya
i'd like to think albrecht has. some amount of morality regarding that
Yeah, would be pretty irresponsible to start infecting kids and teenagers with something that'll absolutely ruin their lives.
If Loki is a younger proto than it would be them involving themselves without knowing. Like Pickpocket or career thief taking someone they were not prepared to handle
Or Loki is just a straight up master thief
Would it be a fair trait to say that his mouth would work faster than his brain?
Probably not, that's already Amir
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Idk, I just see Loki as being a goofy little guy
Alarmingly proficient at stealth operations, but after the mission ends, he’s just a little goofy
I couldn't. Partly because that's just Amir, partly that military just doesn't have a good mouthfeel
I could see Loki being something of a middleman between Quincy and Amir
Gets along great with both
and occasionally goads them into prank wars, during which he also helps them set up
As well as pulling his own jokes on people
CommuniCoshua sees the vision
And also has the uncanny ability to sneak into Scaldra headquarters to put a whoopee cushion at Viktor's desk
hey DE, hire me would ya?
You see the vision of Proto Loki being a goofy little guy
consider:
switch teleport
When the clocks ticking and serious stuff is at stake, he pulls a complete 180° and he gets stuff done quickly and alarmingly effectively, but the second the dust settles he goes back to goofy mode
I could also see him overseeing a Spy node
Maybe where you have to upload viruses Amir made into Scaldra computers
"Okay, you're almost to the server. Time to get your game faces on."
the next line is muffled because he's invis
...it's almost sad, because I think I'm out of lines rn
I'll have to devote more time to this
"Dammit, they saw you. Get to the terminal before they shut it down, stat!"
[Detected in all 3 terminals] "Well, you really stumbled around huh? Take out the witnesses so Scaldra doesn't catch wind of our interference. And for yourself, it'd probably be embarrassing if it was public knowledge you're awful at stealth."
"I didn't even get to plant my whoopee cushion..."
"change of plans kill everyone"
Amir has a great line in Faceoff
If our custom protoframes were mission directors, Hildryn would be rescue because, despite being built like a fortress and looking like she was about 7 seconds away from turning someone into paste, she’s THE hearts and minds aficionado. Quincy handles stuff behind the scenes, whereas Hildryn is one of the few protos who isn’t afraid to let Scaldra see while giving four or five children a piggy back ride to school
"Need gas? Some troops carry gas cans if you catch my drift...murder them."
i don't think you can properly convey in text how he goes from a smirk to a completely blank face at "murder them."
"I told you. I told you to clean your Hell-Scrubbers. Now look at what you have to deal with. Gosh, do I sound like my mom?"
Amir is who I’m gonna go with if I ever decide to break up with Lettie
"I warned you. I totally warned you. And now it wants to have a conversation."
^One of my favorites, ngl
Gonna say goodbye to Lettie for Marie
I F
There is ever a Hildryn Proto and
I F
She’s rizzable, I’ll go for her
Nah, I'm loyal to Eleanor
But Amir is hilarious, I'll give him that
Never forget the one time I was doing an Archon Hunt, and all of a sudden I hear someone yelling "Bad guys! Get your bad guys here!"
On one hand, I despise how people infantilize him because he’s neurodivergent, simultaneously, if anything were to happen to my baby boy I would raze the entire Origin System into a grand, glittering, obsidian orrery
my friend is doing his second dream finally and-
i really hope they nail down this bug soon
its funny as hell but it ruins the vibe a bit
i am, in fact, ignoring the bottom left
thats just what his girlfriend put is name as in the server lmao
New weapon
I STOP PLAYIN MONTHS AGO BCUZ OF THISS PART IDK WHAT TO DO
looks like war within
the golden maws are below the bones, you just have to try running across to other rocks while they're far away
not currently
grineer queens were threatening your mind, you disconnected from your frame, and you were unable to reconnect to it
ordis dropped you into the mountain pass as you were "no longer the operator of the warframes"
i think those are the important pieces to know going forward? its been a little bit since i last replayed war within
Nah, you can't lose Warframes unless you outright sell them or feed them to a wall
ok im at the part i gota beat 3 maws i keep losing idk getting sick of this part
ready uninstall
Have you tried holding crouch?
and what thats going to do
Stealth
im at the part where i change into the maw i go under there are more maws soon i go there they attack im dead
Oh then just attack the maws if you're at that point
how with the maw i got or
do the same i did with the first
i tried attck with the maw dont do nothing
don't you just have to hit the gate with the maw on that one? or burrow beneath something
yes i get past that part maws attck me im dead
why i syop playing cuz i cant past this part
You must have a lot of unfinished games if you quit that easily
Been a few years since I replayed War Within is this the part where you do transference on it?
yeah
stun one, there's the two that can attack you
iirc there's a gate at the far end of the room
Zanuka:
can you really lose your frame to zanuka at this point
i swear zanuka is dead before alad's transmission even pops up
You can if you let it
I mean you can technically lose them but yeah our current gear is too good lol
Heck it was too good years ago
Zanuka is weak
Zanuka rework when DE?
oh a unique like. hacking minigame maybe?
Ooh maybe!
The idea is fun and it’s just a special mission to get them back so it’d be cool if they touched it up
Maybe if they rework salad’s fight
hopefully
they haven't announced any other boss reworks, have they? just the Vor one that already happened?
I wanna say they said they wanted to do more but I’m not sure
Stalker managed to gank me the other day when I was nerfing around with unleveled gear, so it can still happen.
I wonder if Zanuka on sp is a bit harder
i think i got killed by someone else's stalker a few weeks ago
because it was still the variant that uses his absorb-reflect thing on spawn, instead of protector
Mine's being shadow at the moment I think, when it should be protector(?). It's a bit odd.
the comm link has a bunch of red in it where I'd be expecting green anyway. Probably should actually pay attention to his health bar the next time he spawns.
Funnily enough I was about to start a Steel Path mission only to see the Zanuka pop up before I hacked the Survival terminal
I was actually wanting it to capture me, and I was playing Ivara with my pet on docile mode
Despite me being fairly squishy and unsheathed, it took about 30 whole seconds
The victory is cut short as The Man in the Wall emerges from a Void portal and leaves behind cryptic words before mysteriously vanishing. In the new war quest, anyone else have some evidences of what man in the wall said.
its literally just Voull Ne Xata Vohk, Mara Lohk
"Voull Ne Xata Vohk, Mara Lohk?" is all we're given
We know
Xata - Truth
Lohk - Void
'Mara Lohk' - the player
Oull - Possibilities, so potentially 'voull' could be some sort of grammatical thing
'Mara' likely means child
The leading theory is "Do you see the truth, Void Child?"
or a similar variation
I also heard a theory that Voull is a merging of Vome and Oull
Wasnt there a recent thing where we had confirmation of voull?
Think you can find this interview
No
There are a bunch of other words though
From the Whispers soundtrack
Maybe an interview did and Wiki hasn’t got to it
Perhaps, I'm yet to go through all the interviews to be honest
Problem is DE never announce doing one
ah yes the patented DE imprompto interview
is that actually confirmed
No
Hence the use of the word "likely"
We all know what Wally is actually saying is
“I’m here to talk about your Car’s extended Warranty”
Ah, makes sense that he’s a car warranty salesman
Explains how he’s everywhere we are
Eldritch car industry
From factory to insurance it's all wally
Can't wait for Tuesday 
What’s Tuesday owo
Caliban Prime
Oooh Okies I forgot that was coming up 😓
-# there’s also Helldivers 2 for us Xbox folk but that’s off topic
-# oh is that when that's happening? cool
Is the weekly 1999 reset messed up for anyone else?
Same here 😭
Gods, I’m so excited for Tuesday because there’s three events happening: Caliban Prime 
ODST coming to Helldivers 2 (and Xbox release) and remaster of Gears of War. Everything is happening and can’t wait to give DE money so I can give my Operator a nice suit
Anyone else having issues with the Backroom’s calendar? I can’t access mine
yeah, they're investigating it, according to someone in general
I also just scrolled up and saw the other two comments
Discord on mobile kinda sucks
I wonder when the Old Peace will come out, am pretty excited to see it since the main quests are always so cool and pretty looking =^^=
Likely december
"Winter 2025" was the date we got
Makes sense, that’s around when 1999 came out, darn so much time to wait v.v
September gonna be hella dead though
and by november we'll probably get either gyre, voruna, or styanax prime
Likely Gyre/Voruna, I feel like Styanax will be saved for being the 50th Prime
most likely, then itll be gyre
next cause voruna came out after
- old peace will probably be out before the holidays most likely 2 weeks into december
Yeah last year they dropped 1999 right after the Game Awards, wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens this year
Yea I’m really excited for uriel im curious as to what skills he’ll have.
Putting this here because it's Jade Shadows quest related, but i really like how this protait seems to be a reference to 'The Kiss' painted by Gostav Klimt. (My art history heart is happy lol)
Races are faster