spoiler-chat

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[shadow forum]

TAU 2026

[lament birch]

The content of the 2025 and maybe 2026 update happens at the same time as 1999

Drifter time travels to 1999, operator hunts memories of the olden times/goes to Tau

They're both jump off points from lotus eaters

[shadow forum]

Now that is what I want to listen.

[zenith jacinth]

Also helps stalker somewhere during that

[shadow forum]

Tell us more.

[lament birch]

We don't know more

[livid glen]

Tau wasn't "made". It's a star system (or planet depending on how you interpret the KIM chats) that the Sentients were sent to.

[shadow forum]

Yea that explains it.

[livid glen]

Based on the stars it's probably Sirius

[zenith jacinth]

Could just be both

[lament birch]

Tau is usually colloquially used with system

It's a star system

We're just likely going to a single planet

[shadow forum]

😐 I wonder so drifter finished his nightmare. Now operator turn to go for that one.

[cerulean kiln]

The only person to call Tau a planet never actually got to the System

[shadow forum]

Maybe zariman is the bridge between those places or deimos necralisk

Where they used that big teleport .

Or not

[livid glen]

It's probably going to be Pazuul rebuilding the Tau rail honestly

[zenith jacinth]

Drifter went through three nightmares

[lament birch]

Heard rumblings of rebuilding the rail, yeah

[shadow forum]

Wait pazuul was lotus brother right.

[lament birch]

Yeah, erra

But not anymore

[zenith jacinth]

The thing piloting him now is pazuul yes

[shadow forum]

So Ballas controlled them all

[zenith jacinth]

Ballas is a master manipulator

[lament birch]

Not.. technically?? He certainly MANIPULATED them though

[zenith jacinth]

-# Couldn't manipulate his lover tho

[lament birch]

Lol yeah

[zenith jacinth]

-# absolute loser he was

[shadow forum]

So teshin is dead and we see his shadow in teshin relays

[zenith jacinth]

Teshin is alive in duviri

[rain dew]

Teshin’s alive, he’s in Duviri

[lament birch]

I forget, what was the citing incident of margulis's lighting?

[zenith jacinth]

Her refusing to weaponize the kiddos

[shadow forum]

Even when he was with that queen

[livid glen]

She was against using the Transference Therapy she developed for war

[lament birch]

Ah yeah, that'd do it. Honestly it's pretty depressing, considering she was so kind even after being blinded

[shadow forum]

I read at the the silver shrine quest they tested transference .

[cerulean kiln]

No, she developed it for Therapy Ballas warped it for War

[shadow forum]

Short

[livid glen]

That's what I wanted to say, yeah

[zenith jacinth]

Ignoring the fact she cast rell out

[livid glen]

Poor wording

[lament birch]

A lot of the game is pretty much us using it for both purposes actually

When you think on it

[lament birch]

Well I mean..yeah, every smooth surface has to have a scratch somewhere

[brittle harbor]

Was it to cast him out, or to protect him? (or to give him a mission?)
I don't remember the details well... (so i'll have to replay it too xD)

[lament birch]

Pretty sure it's cuz autism coded, and because of him blinding her

Autistic person hating aside, Would you want a kid who stabbed out your eyes staying at your daycare?

[zenith jacinth]

"Blinded, she cast him out"

[lament birch]

Oh right, wasn't margulis jade lighted cuz she didn't want to use child soldiers?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[brittle harbor]

Ah, yes... things happened in this order... thx

[rain otter]

Rell did hold down Wally for 1000 years

@shadow forum but yes the Teshin in duviri is the same teshin.

[viral kettle]

I just gave birth...

[acoustic kraken]

So im confused did we go to tou or is it another "drifter" moment where we did and didnt thanks to void stuff?

[balmy badger]

The Old Peace is flashbacks.

Reliving the Operators dormant memories.

Not a new concept either, The War Within was also about unlocking suppressed memories.

[acoustic kraken]

So its just unlocking a vault for memories?

Then the Next update after old peace is going back to tou

[balmy badger]

The 2026 Tau update will be going to present day Tau yes.

[rain otter]

Well not next but in 2026 yes.

[tight pagoda]

Yeah it'll likely be the End of Year 2026 update

Much like how 1999 was first shown at TennoCon 2023, teased in the end of year Whispers in 2023 then got an actual quest released end of year 2024

But The Old Peace is likely solely focused on Tau, rather than how 1999 was a small part of Whispers

[main wagon]

I don’t think thats how they’re doing it this year

[balmy storm]

Old peace will give us the motivation to go to Tau
And possibly the method

[main wagon]

we will have to see

[balmy storm]

Since Whispers gave us the method to 1999

[main wagon]

finally a good reason to use all three sacrificial mods.

[tight pagoda]

Umbral* mods, there's only two sacrifical mods

And overall Primed Pressure Point does more damage than a buffed, fully upgraded Sacrifical Pressure, which is weird imo

[hearty pendant]

both sacrificial mods are outclassed even with the set bonus, aren't they?
pressure by primed, steel by galvanized

[obtuse gyro]

steel has more crit chance than galv, galv just had that very very very very sweet bonus of way more crit damage

[hearty pendant]

yeah
chance and damage is more useful than just a bunch of chance

[obtuse gyro]

like sac steel at base has twice the cc as galv steel

[noble drift]

Latest math I saw suggested that Tenacious Bond was letting Sac edge out Galv in some situations, but it does put other limits on your overall build.

[tight pagoda]

I should really play Faceoff more

Amir: "All the girls I've dated, they both said I'm the fastest. So it should come as no surprise that my squad is winning."

[spice wyvern]

umbra has never seen such cap before

[lilac plume]

perfect opportunity for Sentient faction liches

[winged obsidian]

Sentient Liches would be so amazing. I already got to the coda and kuva Liches and they’re pretty cool with how they’re like your rival. Sentient would just complete the faction Liches for each one

[steep totem]

We'd need Orokin Liches for full completion
Orokin, the faction formerly known as Corrupted

although I wouldn't entirely be surprised if we ended up with blue-skinned longarms for that one

[zenith jacinth]

Myr-mi-don, Myr-mi-don

[steep totem]

...that is scary genius

[lilac plume]

I mean unless there's a conclave hiding out there thats been undiscovered I don't see how it would work. Corruption is just super fancy Orokin brainwashing / indoctrination

[velvet bison]

how do i open yellow door in this room 2 computers and a entrati cystal

[zenith jacinth]

There's a video on yt showing how to unlock every riddle room, easier than explaining in text

[exotic gate]

computer on upper left. Crystal by electric rods. computer in center. door opens

[velvet bison]

i did 1 before asking but the second one was turned off

[steep totem]

I'm honestly not sure either
I had an idea about the Towers corrupting Liches and Sisters, but that's starting to sound generic and boring to me
I seem to lack the creative fuel that gave us the Infested 90s Boy Band nemeses

If we do get Sentient Liches, however, I sincerely hope they are personalized Archons

[fallow prism]

Honestly DE have only proved those memes right , the drifter is sitting there having relationship problems and the occasional murmur issue in some dreamworld meanwhile the operator is having to fight 70 feet tall porcelain dolls with the special ability to be a sponge, poor child is going through it frfr

[tight pagoda]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarframeLore/s/qGroKI1iG7

Someone points out that Wally makes deals with Operator using Lotus' hand, and Rusalka with her own severed hand— I think it's because he's learned from his mistake with Albrecht, where the door literally closed on his hand, and it resulted with a finger being cut off

[humble coral]

WHY DOES SHE LOOK LIKE A OOMPA LOOMPA!?!?!😭 😭 😭

[jaunty mountain]

Is there a way to make the kiss scene not play automatically?

[night oar]

LMAO

[humble coral]

the brown and white outfit doesnt help her case 😭

[hearty pendant]

prolly not
it auto-plays when you first see it in the inbox, and the inbox auto-opens it
ig if you have another thing in there at the same time, but that isn't consistent

[tight pagoda]

Nah I believe the way the game works is that it'll automatically open your inbox on login/when there's something new

[warm anvil]

computer, then two crystals on each side

[velvet bison]

will keep an eye out next time

[native pecan]

You'll have to use your Tenno to activate the crystals

[velvet bison]

yeah i was in that mode im shore i tried shooting at a fair few things

[mellow tapir]

giving 5 plat for a cred bless i give first

[gritty flume]

nani

i just looked at lullaby of the manifold music video

no offense but i thought megan sang it

[quick smelt]

Corpus Porcus voidity boo
I got some taxations for you

[winged obsidian]

Looks like an Oompa Loompa and has poor balance too

I love her. I hope you keep her

[humble coral]

oh i wouldnt dare vanquish this...interesting...specimen

poor balance?

whats poor balance mean?

[opaque dove]

She won’t go up stairs

Seriously

[winged obsidian]

Wait really?

I thought it meant it’s easier to knock her down with certain attacks

[ripe kite]

Have you guys seen umbra mag/volt

[exotic gate]

saw the post. its just the frame with Umbra's extras on it. like a prime toggle.

[ripe kite]

volt umbra looks like prime yes but mag looks amazing

[chilly rose]

What did yall name your Helminths?

[graceful zodiac]

Mine is Kirby currently

[chilly rose]

Nice >:D

[zenith jacinth]

Rumpelstilzchen. Still not entirely sure why
(It's the german version of rumpelstiltskin btw)

[sacred pebble]

The freak

[noble drift]

Audrey IV

[balmy storm]

Lmao what even

[tight pagoda]

[DE]layed is probably a Dev or something, all their TikToks are jokes using assets

Most notably, they used Adis at the intro of this one

[echo basalt]

Probably redtext lol

[balmy storm]

I looked it up and uh

No
They use AI voices, this ain’t DE

Like there’s literally an AI Lotus
The Adis may be too

[tight pagoda]

Oh definitely AI voices for everything

but I think it's still DE because how else would they have access to Adis and etc.

Since it's a joke account and not any official reveals whatsoever it could just be them using AI for that

or there's a rogue Dev at DE who's doing it

or rebecca is extremely talented and able to make herself sound like she's AI-generated to throw us all off

[balmy storm]

Adis’ model was used during the tennolive relay

They’re def not on a live build but I really doubt it’s a dev, rogue or not

[obtuse gyro]

probably part of the group of folks who play around builds of the game offline

[balmy storm]

The more I look at it
Yeah probably

[halcyon mantle]

Hello guys, I'm not a native English speaker, so I hope it's okay to ask a quick question.
I heard from someone that DE might reclassify some main story quests as side content, or even make them skippable or remove them entirely.
Is this information accurate?
I'd really appreciate any clarification. Thank you🥺 🙏 !

[tight pagoda]

It is extremely unlikely they will remove them entirely. I haven't seen any official announcement about re-ordering quests, but if I remember correctly, the quest "Saya's Vigil" is no longer necessary for quest progression.

[halcyon mantle]

Ahhh I see now ,thanks so much !

[winged obsidian]

Cortana. Because I like Halo and thought naming Helminth, Gravemind was a bit dumb lol

[dim niche]

Nazgul, but I think I should have gone with Snorlax

[ripe kite]

Douglas
Its this or Gerard

[balmy storm]

Adephagia :)

[obtuse gyro]

Hector the Tumor

[steep totem]

Helminthy
I wasn't feeling creative that day, but I've come to like it

[spice wyvern]

bill nye gone wrong

[vale bloom]

I named him Hades lol

[winged sandal]

is there any story gameplay with the 4 non original protoframes?

[real niche]

There's Stage Defense with Flare and that's it

[winged sandal]

that's it? no new quest or anything?

well damn

[real niche]

Elite Temporal Archimedea is hosted by Kaya and then the other two just have nothing lol

[night grail]

Hey Minerva and Velimir are also in ETA

[fading current]

The dialogue in TA is some of my fav

[rain otter]

They all have their own kims and stuff. Kaya has ETA and the couple go with you during that.

But there's not a quest or something.

[spice wyvern]

Pov: what atlas sees after blowing up a giant asteroid and goes home. (he's eating good)

those are ALL rocks btw (so dont even try it)

[undone lodge]

I was wondering why the meat looked so dry

[zenith jacinth]

Don't underestimate me

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/bk-ice-man-man-eating-bk-and-gif-22096101

[hearty widget]

Could u imagine if they let use use the dropping from orbit outside of old peace

[viral salmon]

should I cure neewa or send her home or let her decide||

Scammer

[winged obsidian]

You can choose whatever you want. I chose to let her decide for herself because everything has always been decided for her where she got very little say in many stuff. Atleast that’s how I chose it.

[steep totem]

I looked through the three options
Honestly, I think she's happiest when she decides for herself

[covert tree]

It'd be so cool

[supple badge]

question - do I have to set the Backroom to my base of operations for my paramour to show up? They're never there when I enter from the Mall entrance

[cerulean kiln]

Have you got to Loved yet with the one you're dating?

[supple badge]

yep

[livid glen]

(Even if she chooses the worst possible option - she dies early, and their culture also dies)

[steep totem]

Their culture doesn't die, they just change it

Figure out a new way to live

I think that's better than curing her and forcing them to find a new path right now or they all die anyways

[quick smelt]

Yeah
Her deciding that she will be the last one, which gives them time to figure out how to change, is the best option in my opinion

[steep totem]

Exactly

[livid glen]

I think sending her home would probably give the best outcome from a greater perspective, specifically if that culture/strain/whatever is then further studied

Instead of letting that knowledge be lost, if only partially

[steep totem]

Pretty sure we know what that strain is though

Or at least what it used to be

[quick smelt]

It’s a weird thing that seems to need to be passed down specifically from person to person.

Lets them pacify the infested around them or something.

If they could have figured out how to give it to everyone, I think they would have done it by now since it’s been with them for a while. In fact they probably could have spread it to everyone else but then it would inevitably kill them.

Hence why they only have a single person burden whatever

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[azure solar]

dont allow your parents into the room /j

[humble coral]

you deadass?

like if i walk up stairs she cant follow me?

😭

[opaque dove]

You could check the official wiki, it gives details on the various quirks

[graceful mango]

i do not remember wally having a whole conversation about Isaah on the Orbiter

[zenith jacinth]

Always happens after snackrifice though

[graceful mango]

i finished War Within before this

not war within

new war

[zenith jacinth]

Although wally is usually on the other table for me when it happens

[zenith jacinth]

Convo probably gets saved for the next best opportunity if it doesn't trigger right away

[sacred pebble]

Hey kiddo ( disappear)

[rain otter]

It was always there.

[humble coral]

how often does wally appear in the orbiter?

cuz he appears right when i walk into or out of my landing craft in the camp >:[

[cerulean kiln]

Randomly

[rain dew]

I’ve gone weeks without seeing him

[livid glen]

I didn't have him for over half a year and then he appeared twice in the same day.

[balmy storm]

I kinda hope he still pops up after the current arc

[tight pagoda]

Yeah, I might miss having him around ngl

[livid glen]

I mean, assuming they won't strip the functionality of the Ordianry Chair, they should

[winged obsidian]

He rarely appears in my game, but interesting enough whenever im not expecting, he then appears. Scares the crap out of me everytime

[zenith jacinth]

I barely see him these days :(

[tight pagoda]

What have you guys named your Amps? Normally I just run with a portmanteau of the parts I used to make it (Raklapcha — Raplak, Clapkra, Pencha, for example) but I've started naming them to be a bit more thematic, especially with the TennoLive reveals, things like "Broken Peace" or "Forlorn Shores"

[livid glen]

Latin

[zenith jacinth]

Void blaster 1 and 2

And the flamethrower amp on my old acc named gehenna

[weak valve]

sticky web shooter
le eido killer

i have the number notation on my older ones

big boy 223
boeing 747 dreamliner

[mortal meadow]

guys is my operator ready for old peace? 🙏

i dont like the ephemera

but i dont know which would be good with it

[winged obsidian]

Oh yeah! They look ready. I feel like an ephemera would look a bit off, but that depends on which one it is

[mortal meadow]

vengeful trickster ephemera works

[covert tree]

This reminds me i need to work on my operator

[zenith jacinth]

I'm gonna delay that until the operator rework hits

[round parrot]

i rlly hope in tau 2026 pazuul becomes relevant again

[onyx dock]

hello guys.i have question about new war wild hunt .is it any option to quit that quest?im struggling for months to pas those levels but no sucess.my frustration reach peak.im bit older guy and thats beyond me...to the point of giving up warframe completely.i played that game nearly from beggining and clocked 4k+ hours but that quest locked game for me.do u have any solutions for that quest or go to former wareframe?

[livid glen]

No, unfortunately

Check the wiki if you are struggiling

The Archons aren't too difficult if you know what to do

It's mostly rolling and shooting, no reflexes needed

Worst case scenario you could probably try contacting support

[covert tree]

You can't quit try look for some info to help get past it the archons aren't too hard ive played that quest 3 times now

[obtuse gyro]

Yea we need to know why youre struggling with the archons to know how to help

[covert tree]

Also you can do archons in whatever order you like i did nira and amar then the borb

[livid glen]

I did Boreal and then Amar 'cause it made more narrative sense to me

(Both times I played the New War)

[onyx dock]

they killing me every time im trying to shoot them at glowing places but the whole thing last so long that they able to kill me in process

[livid glen]

You are using the healing ability, right?

[zenith jacinth]

"Glowing places"?

[onyx dock]

yes

[livid glen]

You can always look in youtube to see how other people did it

[obtuse gyro]

This is the screechy owl one?

[onyx dock]

i have seen it and no sucess

mars one i tryed earth too same thing

[covert tree]

Have you tried the snake?

[onyx dock]

no

[covert tree]

She's pretty easy

[zenith jacinth]

Amar key is staying close enough that he doesn't use his jump attack, nira you gotta pay attention to when she's about to use the line of sight damage

Boreal I've never fought properly bc the other two are easy

[livid glen]

Make sure to heal when you get hit by an electric proc since it status cleans you

And screech bubble requires you to either drop a smoke bomb to enter

And hit him

Or you can just roll into it

[onyx dock]

ill give it another go.thanks a lot guys for ur help.❤️

[pastel frost]

just created Nidus
when do I have to breed for helminth charger?
can I remove the cyst rn or do I have to wait 7 days?

also, do I have to remove it before or during the kubrow creation?

[zenith jacinth]

Removing means you can't make a charger until you get another one

[zenith jacinth]

You drain the cyst into the kubrow egg as you start incubating

Also google exists

[pastel frost]

the wiki exists too, and it doesn't help with the order of what you have to do

[zenith jacinth]

Well removing the cyst is the wrong thing to do in general

If you want a charger

[pastel frost]

i do

[zenith jacinth]

Removal makes it so the frame can't get a cyst again

Which definitely only exists bc the cysts are ugly as hek

[pastel frost]

yeah, but I do have to drain the cyst into the incubation process
but it also takes 7 days to grow
but it nowhere states how the f you drain it into the incubation or if it needs to be mature

[noble drift]

"While using the infected Warframe with a fully matured cyst, the player can select "Begin Incubation" under the Kubrow Breeding tab. There, a new Helminth Cyst option will appear at the bottom of the Incubator menu via a button marked "Drain". Clicking this will bring up a confirmation dialog, after which the incubation process will proceed as it would for any other Kubrow. "

[pastel frost]

thank you

[zenith jacinth]

-# Coulda just googled it

[pastel frost]

sighs and implodes

[zenith jacinth]

Well that is straight up copy pasted from some google result

[noble drift]

and from the previous paragraph on the wiki "24 hours after infection, a pink cyst will appear on the infected Warframe's neck, which will reach full size after another 6 days indicated by a single tendril emerging from the follicle." just so you know what "fully matured cyst" is.

[zenith jacinth]

Oh from the wiki

Even better

[noble drift]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Helminth_Charger bottom two paragraphs of "acquisition"

[zenith jacinth]

Does it have a guide for liches too or is that too complicated for the wiki

[noble drift]

ehh, the wiki lich stuff is a bit of a mess... it's not bad, but it's not exactly concise.

[thick jolt]

Has the info, but for sure not a guide

[noble drift]

the gameplay tab gets into some of the "how to efficiently test requiems" stuff, but only once you get down to tips

[humble coral]

zanuukas feel less scary when once you get to the second dream ngl

cuz when you first start you think youre a living robot, and that alad v basically just did the equivalent of skinning a human, but once you learn warframes are metal suits it becomes less scary

still a cool concept tho

[obtuse gyro]

oof, I take it you havent reached The Sacrifice huh

[regal socket]

Dont the operators feel what their warframes feel when they transfer to the frame? Or am i mis-remembering lore?

[cerulean kiln]

Yes they do

[livid glen]

Yes. Which opens an interesting thing, considering that the Operator was within Jade when she... yeah

[cerulean kiln]

Tenno aren’t inside Warframes

[livid glen]

No, but they do feel what the warframe feels

So the Operator did indeed feel Jade giving birth

(Even if it's not the same as a normal human)

[azure solar]

he was on nightwaves console for me

[azure solar]

i like the one bought from ticker better

[zenith jacinth]

You mean chipper?

[mortal meadow]

The wings? I like them too but they took up a lot of the screen and annoy me lmaoo

[north hamlet]

We got a new cutscene starring our favorite blue trenchcoat wearing slimeball
https://youtu.be/R93mAdFL_go?si=jybkYN145Qj-niOH

[zenith jacinth]

(It's actually really old and was implemented as an introduction a few months ago)

[north hamlet]

Yeah, and more lore accurate

[zenith jacinth]

More lore accurate than... what? Nothing?

[north hamlet]

Considering Valkyr's Gersemi and why Zanuka has a suspiciously similar cyan colored body

[zenith jacinth]

Ok but what is it more lore accurate than

[north hamlet]

… Yeah I got nothing lmao

[zenith jacinth]

There's nothing to compare it to, but I get what you mean

[amber terrace]

Is it at all possible to get the cutscene to play if you already completed the Jupiter junction in both Star chart and SP?

[tight pagoda]

Could be something in the codex?

[amber terrace]

If it’s there my brain is too small to find it

[wooden vapor]

Right so idk if its spoiler but the tenno from the man in the wall has started popping up again i have completed main story is this leading towards the next update?

[amber terrace]

The hey kiddo thing?

I wanna say that’s been there since Chains of Harrow

[wooden vapor]

Yea

[zenith jacinth]

That's been an rng thing since chains of harrow

[wooden vapor]

Ohh ok jst cause a havenr had it happen for past 5 months ish

All of a sudden mf makes me shit myself out of nowhere when i was chilling in my orbiter

[zenith jacinth]

Wally doesn't appear in the backroom unless you place down a completely ordinary chair

[wooden vapor]

?

[zenith jacinth]

That's a decoration

[wooden vapor]

Sorry im still figuring out the game and certain stuff lol

[winged obsidian]

The ordinary office chair. Brought to you by Frosty Furniture (purchased by Velimir)

[wooden vapor]

Ohh

Dont think i have it

[zenith jacinth]

Very normal chair nothing suspicious about it

[winged obsidian]

Yeah, you have to do The Hex quest and Rank 5 to unlock him

[zenith jacinth]

If you didn't buy it then you don't have it

[zenith jacinth]

Isn't it just R4

[winged obsidian]

That’s Flare and Lizzie. They do appear in Rank 4, but you can’t talk to them until Rank 5

[wooden vapor]

Ahhh yea need to grind the hex think im lvl 2

[zenith jacinth]

A

[balmy badger]

Seeing an old trailer rendered real-time in-game fascinates me.

I got that cutscene on one of my alts not knowing it was added and it shocked me.

[stuck sleet]

Can't believe bro is making this in real time

[vale cobalt]

my guy...

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[cerulean kiln]

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[ionic sleet]

No self-promotion chief. And this is a Warframe server...

[livid glen]

You know, that also happened to me. I haven't seen him for over half a year, and suddenly I had him appear twice in the same day before yesterday.

[weak badge]

could this relate focus expansion to different schools having different expansions? as it has ||Naramon|| logo on the sword?

[opaque dove]

Likely is Naramon’s thing

[weak badge]

its because i saw the video second time today on feed and then this time it clicked on my brain

[obtuse gyro]

this is exactly what it looks like

[winged obsidian]

Yeah, iirc i believe they even said or mentioned that it’s like an ultimate for the Naramon school.

[obtuse gyro]

I think they confirmed that this was the naramon "ultimate" either in the same stream or any number of the post tennocon interviews

[weak badge]

in this video it didn't mention any relation to naramon so possible post tennocon interviews

it was the demo gameplay

[winged obsidian]

I think it may have been from one of the interviews or in the Tennocon after the demo. I do remember they mentioned it somewhere. But it definitely has Naramon’s symbol, which is so cool. It makes me wonder what the other Schools would have?

[weak badge]

same thoughts here

[livid glen]

Madurai is a giant void blast

100%

[winged obsidian]

A giant void black hole lol

[opaque dove]

I Wonder if one of the ults is just gonna be crucible blast/pre war within operator void blast

[balmy storm]

We have that in railjack

[winged obsidian]

Nah, I need that in the palm of my hand and chuck it at Ballas

[balmy storm]

In the demo the one school that’s mentioned is Naramon

When we help Adis on his test Naramon is shown

Which I do wonder if whatever school we go into the quest with is the one we get to try out and possibly unlock first

I’m very curious to see how resources and missions will work with old peace since it’s all a memory bath

With focus it can likely be chalked up to techniques we are relearning and memorizing
Like war within

[tight pagoda]

"Oh, that's where I left it"

[balmy storm]

Yeah lmao

[winged obsidian]

I know around 2026 we’ll go to present day Tau, so we could get something from there. Maybe memory Tau we believe it into existence or something lol.

[balmy storm]

Ig we just
Time capsule it lol

[balmy storm]

Well we aren’t changing anything in the past, so resource caches we left behind would make the most sense

[cerulean kiln]

Old Peace is probably gonna have an ending that leads to the reason we go to Tau

[balmy storm]

Oh for sure

But it will have some form of gameplay and new resource for getting the tauron expansions

I’m also curious to see if wall running is something we will have to unlock or not

Also ofc Oraxia wall running
Idc if it’s baked in with the update or a future mod for her
Let her crawl on walls

[cosmic prawn]

Might only be on new tilesets, rather than being put into older ones.

[balmy storm]

I mean it seems like an expansion to the parkour system

Like I would guess we can do it anywhere

Our movement can be crazy as is so limited just that to new times doesn’t make sense
Like
Titania exists
Bullet jumping exists

[winged obsidian]

Oh yeah, it’s a definite lead up to whatever is coming in 2026

[cosmic prawn]

They only showed it off on what looked like specific walls with a separate texture and everything, like in other games.

[winged obsidian]

Wall running would just complete the parkour experience. I am so ready to just start running on walls everywhere

[balmy storm]

I mean yeah, but I still don’t see why it would be limited
Like it will likely need enough space, like the walls used, but there’s no point in limiting it to those walls

It’s not a game breaking piece of movement
You can bullet jump those gaps :L

That also was like
A literal gameplay demo

[tight pagoda]

I can think of a fair few walls that would benefit from it too

Like the ones in the Corpus Gas factory

[livid glen]

I want to see you wall run in the Zariman...

[winged obsidian]

Challenge accepted

I’ll make that attempt. I kinda already do that in the Zariman

[covert tree]

Wall running in arching missions 🗣️ 🔥

[cyan snow]

i did notice that too. maybe a better indicator of what focus school you are using vs the energy stamp we place on the floor now.

[covert tree]

Someone gave me a thought infested gun Gemini skins

[sturdy cedar]

they gotta rework drifter visages

theyre all so chopped 😭

[undone lodge]

What would the Gemini versions even be?

[azure solar]

yes i meant chipper.... i meant the fog of war not the eros wings @mortal meadow

[covert tree]

Right ive not fully thought this out but my main thought was like a primary secondary and melee weapon emote thatd turn the equipped weapon into a infested cosmetic skin that has dialogue sort of like lizzy

[noble drift]

AX-52 Incarnon :P

[stuck hatch]

How can I make my operator more manly

[livid glen]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[balmy storm]

“How do you make a child more manly”

Play Drifter
Slap on a beard

[stuck hatch]

A beard 👍

[balmy storm]

If you’re struggling with making drifter more “manly” look up how other people make their Drifter

[stuck hatch]

The new quest we bouta use an operator tho can we use a drifter?

[balmy storm]

No

Old peace is operator only

[noble drift]

also new quest will come with an operator art update, so trying to get them perfect in advance is likely to fail.

[stuck hatch]

Bet

[covert tree]

How to make operator manly: make the fit hard

[stuck hatch]

Hard you say bet

[covert tree]

Or just make them pretty

[covert tree]

?

[peak cobalt]

Is there any etiquette about using drifter & operator in low level missions? Like is it fine to do it?

Its been years since I played the beginning of main story and I don't remember how soon that gets revealed and if its a major spoiler to be popping out of your warframe.

[hearty pendant]

second dream is at or around neptune in terms of star chart progression
most of the community seems to avoid letting new players see operator/drifter, use it when they're far away or not at all, whatever

[covert tree]

Id say its polite to not use it unless with players who know of and have it you can use it but its kinda spoiling a new players time

[cosmic prawn]

Most times they won't even notice. If they do you can always just cover with a "it's an ability you unlock later" type excuse.

[dark belfry]

When I mob low level survivals to farm some quick weapon levels (say i have like one level left on a gun), I take in my basic frames so I'm not massively op.

I keep operator to myself, its bad etiquette

[real niche]

If you're doing things stupid fast like Relic cracking with Sunder Titania you shouldn't even be busting Operator out tbh

[late wind]

i need to do a bell-curve meme of warframe's "big bad guy" before the old peace comes out that goes:
before the new war: "sentients are the bad guys" -> durring the new war: "it's not the sentients who're the bad guys, it's the remaining orokin" -> after the new war: "sentients are the bad guys"

[humble coral]

nur, ive been at isleweaver for a long while lo

*lol

[balmy storm]

I mean it was more Ballas who was the bad guy during TNW, he just had sentient forces and praghasa’s corpse

I mean even after I wouldn’t say the sentients are the bad guys
Just the archons

Which are sentients, yes, but eh
They’re different from other sentients

[obtuse gyro]

welcome back, in that case, then you'd be back to " alad v basically just did the equivalent of skinning a human"

[chilly rose]

What do you find the best things to farm are to feed the Helminth?

[livid glen]

Whatever I have excess for

Mostly Voidgel Orbs for Bile

Ferrite for Oxides

Ect.

Never had to farm helminth food

[woeful patio]

Idk if this is a place that we can say that buuuut... I have a question...

Meanwhile operator is going to revive its PTSD on tau ALL over again RECOVER all its trauma... Again, pur drifter...

Gonna be chilling in 1999 with its lover ??

[hearty pendant]

drifter's not currently up to anything other than 1999 looping, no
they're pretty much chilling, all things considered
tho they're most likely going to be involved with the "entrati side-chapter" with the devil's triad

[woeful patio]

Oh great... So one gonna deal with exorcism and other with war ptsd

Right?

[hearty pendant]

hey, drifter might have to explain duviri trauma to another new set of protos
but yeah basically
tbf operator's been remembering a lot of that already, this is just.. another section

[woeful patio]

Sincerely...

This new story...

I loved it.

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[zenith jacinth]

Rebb is doing good writing

[woeful patio]

The kid dealing with traumas like a old man veteran movie

meanwhile drifter is living a horror teenagers romance movie

Both of them are screwed dont matter the timeline

Jokes aside what we saw on the tennocom is supposed to mean the past

So we gonna dive in the past missions or we gonna go to past and go to present too??

[zenith jacinth]

Tau 2025 is past, tau 2026 is present

[woeful patio]

Liiike.... How i say that... Oh here i found the location... Lets go back than :D

[hearty pendant]

exploring memories of tau, and we'll actually go there next year
through currently unknown means

[woeful patio]

Well as long it dont involve me throwing hands woth adis

Im ok with it

Sentient kid is cool

[obtuse gyro]

kid's not a cephalon

[woeful patio]

100% that i gonna play it with rules of nature but screw it

[woeful patio]

Ik my brain is running 2 bit

[tight pagoda]

I believe there was an interview with the Narrative team where they said that "Drifter had a reason to go to Tau, the Old Peace will give the Operator one"

[zenith jacinth]

Operator is realizing that there are still living sentients

[woeful patio]

If the drifter leave from 1999 will the loop colapse??

[zenith jacinth]

No

[woeful patio]

THX GOD

I can now leave my husband arthur there and stay in peace

[zenith jacinth]

Obv not, drifter isn't the source of the loop

[woeful patio]

Look, the loop spell is a complete "?" For me

[zenith jacinth]

Albrecht somehow created it but it only looped 1 day, after the hex quest it gets extended through unknown means

[woeful patio]

Well he said the bomb needed to explode

Ik it was bc of the war and infestation

[zenith jacinth]

The reactor was probably the initial energy source for the loop

[woeful patio]

Extermination

[zenith jacinth]

But the reactor no longer melts down in the fixed loops

[zenith jacinth]

That happens later

[woeful patio]

Well... Clonning boybands seems to create umbelivable horrors on the future...

Anyway

Soo entrati may or may not knew our loop cast

Maybe that is why he was in a hurry to go on tau

He tough we would cast a loop there and bye?

[zenith jacinth]

The coda actually probably have the least impact since they just sit in stasis until the present

[woeful patio]

Buuuut was the "primer" for the actuall infestation

[zenith jacinth]

That was the techrot

[woeful patio]

...yes...

[zenith jacinth]

Techrot came before coda

[woeful patio]

Im talking about the techrot...

.....

I was talking about the techrot it self but ok

[tardy quiver]

but why did drifter have to keep the loops going on forever, even after the hex finale which is the good ending for them?

[zenith jacinth]

To make sure the fixed timeline sticks

[woeful patio]

If the nuke dont go boom infestation grow, if techrot grow no orokin, no warframes, no tennos that means in a really confusong way and probably out of mind

[undone lodge]

They also still have the issue of the Helminth developing further

[woeful patio]

IF wally stopped the bomb

That could make a empty path the wally invade the origin system

[zenith jacinth]

The Reactor not melting down is the fixed version of the loop

[woeful patio]

Yeah... That is why we can see the murmur on fight quest

Its a dumb detail but rlly open alot of theories

[zenith jacinth]

?

[tardy quiver]

sooo... that means the fixed version is another small world of ours? (like duviri)

[woeful patio]

Arthur vs techrot boss?...

[obtuse gyro]

not like duviri

thats the real past babey

[woeful patio]

Well following the eternalism

Yes

[obtuse gyro]

no absolutely not

[woeful patio]

Does the bomb go boom?

[zenith jacinth]

That's wally trying to stop the reactor from being kept intact

[zenith jacinth]

No

Reactor meltdown is bad, reactor intact is good

[tardy quiver]

do you mind explaining further? the hex is the only confusing part for me of the lore

[woeful patio]

Actually it would be rlly funny and at some point whem we do the new year kiss the bright light flashing is the nuke consuming everything

[zenith jacinth]

Can't explain better bc the game doesn't either

[tardy quiver]

xd

[zenith jacinth]

It's. Not. A nuke.

[woeful patio]

Its a reactor

It has radiation

It go boom

[tardy quiver]

like, i just thought that, meltdown prevented, the team saved, done, now we look forward to 2000

[woeful patio]

Its a nuke

[tardy quiver]

but no, we are stuck in 1999 forever

[woeful patio]

To be fair it stops being a reactor the moment it explodes

[dense ice]

so, is 1999 going through a bootstrap paradox?

[zenith jacinth]

No

[undone lodge]

It’s Chernobyl

[zenith jacinth]

It stops being anything but it's never a bomb

A bomb is intended to explode, a reactor is not

[woeful patio]

I wonders if theres a ...cure? For the protos

[dense ice]

so what events gets carried over from 1999 over to the present day without the use of time travel

[woeful patio]

Or a way to stop or reduce the helminth

[zenith jacinth]

If there was we wouldn't get temple

[zenith jacinth]

Coda, temple

The temple frame we use is a copy of a fully transformed flare

[dense ice]

but didn't temple get time travel to hibernate

[zenith jacinth]

No they just sat in a rock

[woeful patio]

I just want my man back to normal... Jokes aside but the techrot really seems to destroy their psych bit by bit

[dense ice]

I don't understand how he slept for thousands of years

[woeful patio]

The loop is just a "torture" for them

[dense ice]

and then awakened in the orokin extinction

[zenith jacinth]

They* just did

[dense ice]

so duviri loop is just ignored?

[zenith jacinth]

Psyche is intact but the transformation is likely incredibly painful

[zenith jacinth]

What

[woeful patio]

Well... The infestation madness says otherwise...

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-throw-away-brain-spongebob-gif-5389633093330352546

[zenith jacinth]

It's very likely that that's not a real thing

[dense ice]

wasn't there like a rule for kaya's time travel to be like: you need to return to 1999 before the loop occurs

[undone lodge]

It also happens after (to Scraps message, not felfuris)

[woeful patio]

Hai fiv :D

Long time no see

[covert tree]

Not what im called

[woeful patio]

.... Okey....

[zenith jacinth]

It's a t not an f

[woeful patio]

Ik i was just messing a lil... Since for a long tome i just called... Fiv

Buut okey.

Anyway

[obtuse gyro]

not the case

[dense ice]

I don't understand the rules of kaya's time travel to make a consensus that temple just slept for thousands of years to participate in the Naga drums

[obtuse gyro]

you the drifter makes trips back

[obtuse gyro]

shrimple: Kaya time travels the short way, flare time travels the long way

[dense ice]

so, then, did temple time travel or no?

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/pbj-long-way-looong-waay-peanut-butter-jelly-gif-14766403651246207578

[woeful patio]

One sleep other skip

[obtuse gyro]

you do understand what it is meant by "the long way"?

[dense ice]

then aren't they subjected to the loop?

[obtuse gyro]

you and I are presently time traveling the long way right this instant

[covert tree]

Technically nah just big fat nap that'll have them waking up with every bone cracking

[woeful patio]

Well more like... The loop is just a +

[obtuse gyro]

because its a wack misconception to think that the loop needs to end for time to continue

[zenith jacinth]

Time continues beyond 1999 eventually

[woeful patio]

Whem the bubble stops it all gets back to normal

[obtuse gyro]

just because you edit one section of a tape doesnt mean the rest of a tape doesnt exist

[dense ice]

so temple just slept for unteenth period of time for the loop to be dispelled

[obtuse gyro]

^

[woeful patio]

In a disturbed way to say the thing .. yes

Kinda

[tardy quiver]

so it's not 1999 looping but drifter traveling back again and again?

[obtuse gyro]

I find it more stable to think of the 1999 loop as a sub-game that produces effects in the timeline, which is the main-game

[obtuse gyro]

no

1999 loops, the drifter can at any time return to the present and come back

this is critical to kaya leaving 1999

[woeful patio]

Well you can leave it, not like you are stuck on it

The time is locked in

Its like

Protea time bubble

[tardy quiver]

so confusing xddd

[obtuse gyro]

without you being able to go back at will kaya has nothing to home in on to reach the present

[woeful patio]

The time in there is locked but it dont means you cant just leave

[obtuse gyro]

why do you arbitrarily say that time is locked

[dense ice]

still waiting for more ppl to say I'm right or wrong

[woeful patio]

Well it is

A loop is a block

It will not go further it will consistently reset

[dense ice]

well time travel is like you can be gone from the past and be back the second you left

[zenith jacinth]

You're right or wrong

[dense ice]

best non answer ever

[tardy quiver]

like, it still bothers me why 1999 must be looped infinitely

[obtuse gyro]

well, not exactly the right way to phrase it:

assuming (which I heavily disagree) that time is stuck there, temple will always end the loop sleeping in a rock until the loop breaks

alternatively, the loop does not need to be dispelled, all it does is decide what events constitute the past, and time proceeds from there

[obtuse gyro]

heavily disagree that this is the only way for it to go

[woeful patio]

1 if the bubble leave the infestation will return to its spread mode

[dense ice]

imagine the loop is dispelled at the end of warframe

[woeful patio]

2 no explosion no techrot smite

3 maybe drifter know how turn it on but dont know how to turn it off

[obtuse gyro]

like critically, we can observe time moving forward, with temple and with the coda

[woeful patio]

Its not like it comes with a guide book

[zenith jacinth]

Which is part of the correct timeline

[obtuse gyro]

so either randomly the loop is destined to end, or the loop doesnt hold back time

[woeful patio]

Kaboom

[zenith jacinth]

Doesn't happen

[woeful patio]

Yes

[obtuse gyro]

and given that you can get emails from the operator, I dont think time is having any bit of a freeze moment

[woeful patio]

Only if someone go there and starts the melting process again

[dense ice]

so is albrecht time travel the reality that happened? like is that the reality that got changed or is the 1999 loop's history the reality

[zenith jacinth]

Both

[woeful patio]

Both

[tardy quiver]

wait wait wait... so 1999 is looped but 2000 still happens (?), how?

[zenith jacinth]

The loop ends

[obtuse gyro]

Why do we keep assuming that

[woeful patio]

Inside the bubble 1999 still happening

Bubble blows year still going

Normal

Kinda

[obtuse gyro]

why is it the assumption that the loop must end???

[woeful patio]

...

[dense ice]

this is truly the duviri paradox

[tardy quiver]

i'm just asking why xdd

or rather how

[zenith jacinth]

Because... it eventually does have to?

[livid glen]

Isn't that what happens with the good ending. From my understanding the looping during gameplay canonicaly occurs before that, no?

[zenith jacinth]

After too

[woeful patio]

Even me against my needs that i want arthur and the hex stay ok i know this is not what is supposed to happen

[dense ice]

guess we will know when the father and sister debut in the old peace

[tardy quiver]

if that is the case then is 1999 just we waiting and waiting, until the loop ends and everything fixes itself?

[woeful patio]

99 must end

The bomb must go off

[obtuse gyro]

I posit to you this scenario:
you play a one of kind roleplaying game. It has missions, much like the original halo games. The gimmick here is that as you play through, you make choices that affect later missions and as you play you discover that you really dont like a choice you made in an earlier mission. The gimmick allows you to return to that mission, and change that choice, which changes the events of the mission youre presently at. Do you follow me?

[dense ice]

I mean that in the priestly way

[woeful patio]

Keeping the time cycle is the only way

Afterall time travel rules baby

[obtuse gyro]

but the good ending's loop doesnt end

[livid glen]

Then why bother stopping the reactor if it's going to loop minutes later?

[woeful patio]

Changing the past change the future

[obtuse gyro]

like specifically you and arthur talk about keeping it good

[woeful patio]

Because drifter wanted to help them

[zenith jacinth]

Because it not exploding is part of the fixed timeline

[livid glen]

But why not wait until the last loop so you don't have to do that again next time???

Why loop it afterwards if you fixed it

And why fix if you're looping it

And thus have to fix it again

[woeful patio]

Did you know what the infestation is capable of?

[zenith jacinth]

The change needs to be repeated to become the present end

[livid glen]

It becomes a global problem no matter what

(Assuming the reactor doesn't blow up, probably)

[woeful patio]

No explosion the infestation will keep growing

[tardy quiver]

yes, sort of

[livid glen]

Which creates the Orokin and thus the Tenno, it kinda has to happen

[woeful patio]

Infestation in my eyes is one of the sci-fi most destructive thing ever

[obtuse gyro]

thats how I see it, no need for the loop to end, only a need to ensure the loop turns out a certain way to dictate the way forward

[livid glen]

The explosion was almost certainly engineered by Albrecht

[dense ice]

necromorph

[livid glen]

But if the loop isn't broken, why

That only matters when it ends

[woeful patio]

Who knows

Maybe drifter will start the reactor

Maybe not the possibilities are infinte

[dense ice]

I would assume that the past must be maintained as the good end so that the present remains as it is

[tardy quiver]

oh, so the real question i have been wondering should be, how could a time loop exist in a linear flow of time?

[livid glen]

Except in your example, once you change that, the "loop" ends until you decide to change it again

Unless I misunderstood something

[zenith jacinth]

In the fixed loops the reactor does not explode

[obtuse gyro]

misunderstood slightly, the loop doesnt "end" it just repeats.

uuuuh how familiar are you with dna transcription?

[woeful patio]

Ik but if we follow eternalism we just created a new branch on the timeline

A branch of what if the bomb dont exploded

[livid glen]

Not much, but I think I see where you are going with that

[woeful patio]

Who knows what future will be

[obtuse gyro]

time is a block and it has funny whirls in its shape

[woeful patio]

Maybe the orokin never existed

[livid glen]

The difference is that, for all the Drifter cares, each loop isn't really it's own thing

It happens on the same linear path

[obtuse gyro]

think of the timeline as a produced protein, the events that make up a timeline the RNA strand

[livid glen]

Right, but again, we're not trying, or even want, to produce multiple timelines

We are perfectly satisfied with just one

[woeful patio]

Someone using the DNA code as a timeline example is completely new to me

[livid glen]

Why would we need several?

[tardy quiver]

"time is a big wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff"

[obtuse gyro]

who said anything about multiple timelines?

singular desired protein product

[woeful patio]

Did you play the new war quest?

[livid glen]

Yes, I wouldn't be discussing the Hex then

Please don't throw in "Eternalism"

[woeful patio]

So

No you .. can see it...on the cutscene...

[livid glen]

Ok, I feel like my Bio knowledge is failing me here, wouldn't that still mean a singular time?

[woeful patio]

It... Show really well that the path we choose is the one that gonna be

[obtuse gyro]

its not about producing a quantity, its about what is produced yazimme

[obtuse gyro]

yes yes yes

[livid glen]

I'm not saying there isn't multiple universes, I'm saying we don't need that.

[woeful patio]

Whem accepting the deal you can see the operator die multiple times, this is the realities where we dont did the deal

[obtuse gyro]

for the sake of this analogy/imagery, imagine that this protein only exists one at a time, but for all intents and purposes its the same timeline

[zenith jacinth]

I'm not awake enough for this, good luck bau

[woeful patio]

And im going to medic

Babai

[obtuse gyro]

every time time passes, the rna (the timeline if events) is coding the protein. us fiddling around in 1999 is changing the codons in the rna strand. the final protein product is changed.

and the almighty ribosome of time (the loop) starts the rna strand again

[livid glen]

Right, but the main change we need was the one engineered by Albrecht (probably) to fix the reactor. After that is done, there is no need for the loop to repeat. There isn't any need for the RNA strand to be restarted.

[obtuse gyro]

I understand, however the clownshit albrecht set it up so whackly, so the loop repeating becomes a cosmic repetition

the loop repeats regardless of the good ending or not, and the mad chicken has already fled the coop

[livid glen]

So we're assuming that the loop can't be stopped?

'Cause that's completely different

I was working under the assumption that we choose to continue looping.

[obtuse gyro]

thats my assumption here. none of the cast can actually stop the loop

otherwise drifter would have done the smart thing and end it

no need to entertain questions about loops

[livid glen]

Yeah, that's why I was confused, why bother looping 1999 when you already fixed everything lol

[obtuse gyro]

but also the looping does damage to the timeline, which is the purpose of ETA/TA

so like, theres very little true benefit to keeping the loop going

[tight pagoda]

Tbf the loop mostly exists just for gameplay, the lore reasons came second

[obtuse gyro]

that too, but like, it clearly wasnt hard for us registered losers to think of a justification, so its not hard for the actual team to think of one

[fierce kiln]

im pretty sure drifter can just activate a loop by slamming their fist

[obtuse gyro]

1999's loop was long in place before the drifter started meddling in things

[livid glen]

Well, yes, but it was looping before us. So can we stop it?

[obtuse gyro]

entrati tells you this to your face during the quest that it was looping already

[fierce kiln]

then drifters ability is it to be able to remember all the loops

hm i was sure the fist slam has to symbolize their loop ability when thraxx did the same and hes a manifestation by drifter

[livid glen]

They can loop early from my understanding

[fierce kiln]

i wonder if entrati had to invent time travel himself or if he by some paradox simply stole kayas notes lol

[winged obsidian]

Yeah, Drifter can loop on their own with ✨Void magic✨ after the end of Duviri’s Paradox. It was looping before by Entrati with him blowing up everything each end of 1999 to restart it since he doesn’t get magic powers lol. But Drifter has to keep up the loop to keep the good end of timeline in order to fight back against Wally since it was fixed on the bad end where everyone dies

[livid glen]

So... the Drifter keeps the loop voluntarily?

I swear everyone seems to have different opinions on this

I wish the game was more obvious

On if the loop is impossible to stop or if the Drifter decides to do it for... reasons

For now I'll assume they don't have a choice and the loop is forced 🤷‍♂️

[fierce kiln]

hex are a family to them

operator gets to relive their forgotten traumas while drifter gets to chill after an eternity of executions lol

i so very hope the hex eventually appear in the future and we get the interactions that were somewhat teased in the chats

[fierce kiln]

idk if its forced but the drifter does canonically have the choice to pick if the hex forgets the chats or not

arthur got a text where he says since he trust you with his life, its fine if you make them forget
one answer option is "thanks i have to keep loop to try and date your sister" 😭😭😭

[zenith jacinth]

The loop powers thing is unconfirmed

[livid glen]

Sooooo break the loop and live in the year 2000? I fail to see how that's worse than repeating the same thing over and over again.

[fierce kiln]

i believe the loop affects the growth of the proto frame strain causing them to lose their mind eventually

so loop = forever alive or something

[supple igloo]

Basically yes.

There’s more nuance to it that than but yeah.

[zenith jacinth]

The loop just resets the transformation back to how it was at the start of the year, but when time continues they'll fully turn, though not necessarily go insane

The transformation itself does not instantly cause the insanity, and I personally still believe it was entirely the orokin's fault when frames did go crazy due to them trying to torture frames into obeying

[signal junco]

Wait what interactions?

[livid glen]

With other characters, like Quincy and Cavalero

(Probably, not OP)

[fierce kiln]

yeah especially quincy

with cav, parvos and maroo& varzia

amir meeting ordis too

amir also jokingly said to watch out for any ceophalon rima that makes games in the future (himself)

[undone lodge]

He meets Simaris and makes the joke but Simaris is shook because there actually was a cephalon rima infamous for the awful things they did before and after becoming one

[wicked iron]

I just want to talk to them with my Operator. That's it, and that's all. XD

[zenith jacinth]

I want to introduce the hex to the other entrati just to make them hate albrecht even more

[livid glen]

Seconded, I want a feature in the KIM to swap accounts to the Operator

[graceful mango]

WHAT IS SHE DOING WITH MY WIFE

[zenith jacinth]

Getting drunk and crying

Lettie doesn't want people to think she doesn't hate el

[graceful mango]

what are YOU doing

[zenith jacinth]

Getting drunk and crying

[undone lodge]

what am I doing

[quick smelt]

Lettie does care about Eleanor and doesn’t like the fact she’s closest to turning monster mode

So she gives the image of hating Eleanor as a mechanism to try to make the process of possibly killing her easier.

I mean even that fails as Lettie mchesitates in the quest before Eleanor decides to chomp her.

Then in the quest where drifter fixes everything Lettie forgoes any hesitation to check on Eleanor after she resists joining the techrot.

[woeful patio]

I wonders... If the memories about tau and the whole thing was fake

What else was a lie?

[cerulean kiln]

No, they're actual memories of a peace time during Old War

[woeful patio]

Wha?

Im talking about the things that was told us that was erases from the Memories

Not something straight up from our memories

Man thats not even possible you tough i said a STRAIGHT UP memory was a lie

I ..

👍

[real niche]

A memory isn't the events of what happened, it's your perception of what happened. Lie, no, but Loid is certainly worried about embellishments

[thick jolt]

I assume he might be worried about any possible interference by margulis too

From back when she messed with our memories

[woeful patio]

Well something about margulis will happen

Or will be told about her

[real niche]

Something about Margulis already happened (Her eyes being blown off) lol

[woeful patio]

Or happen with lotus persona

Eyes priveleges rewoked...

[thick jolt]

What i'm talking about is
We know margulis messed with our memories
We know loid is worried about "polluted histories"
We saw in the demo the like split second margulis when we dove back into our memories

To me it sounds like loid is worried about any weird backlash from forcefully undoing whatever margulis did

[woeful patio]

Maybe loid know about something about lotus

Maybe lotus was not that... Good angel afterall

[thick jolt]

I'm talking about actual margulis

[woeful patio]

Yes

Maybe margulis persona will affect lotus?

Idk something weird about margulis it self happens with me

Liiike the way tenshin talked about margulis on the war within

Almost sounds like margulis was not that very cool space mom

[lament birch]

Question. Really need to know if dog days is kind of a throwaway Summer event or if it's actually something that de thaym and the Grineer occasionally do

[woeful patio]

Happyness gas on grineer HQ

Simple

[real niche]

About as throwaway as "they had a gas leak" can be ig

[woeful patio]

Galaxy gas

Mhm mhm

[thick jolt]

Maybe the timing is just for the evnt's sake

But i wouldnt put it past the grineer to have a reoccurring gas leak

[lament birch]

Damn, that's a lil sad but expected it

[thick jolt]

Especially those under kela

[woeful patio]

Gas leak them

Kela grineers

No using violent weapons

Happy

Grineers happy

They are high

Too damn high

[winged obsidian]

It’s so funny finding that out lol because I just thought maybe Kela had an idea of a different kind of arena, but nah. Gas leak at hq making her very happy. Though the fact it’s kinda in between some updates and the Old Peace, which makes me think we’re getting super trauma thrown at us later on

[undone lodge]

Oh definitely, but DD doesn’t have anything to do with it, it’s just an annual August event

[lament birch]

Makes me a little sad, I like when the dumb seasonal events are actually Canon

[livid glen]

I mean, it is canon

[quick smelt]

A gas leak making them too high enough to actually be fine with an arena of fun

[livid glen]

Which happens every year. Honestly I'm convinced it's the Grineer on Rathuum that do it on purpose.

So that they don't die for once.

[steep totem]

Or maybe one of them just likes the occasional water fight?
I'd probably do that if there was a good chance everyone would get armed with squirt guns

Not (entirely) so that I wouldn't die, but because I enjoy soaking people with water

[river delta]

Wanted to put this in spoilers just in case, but does anyone know if they're visually updating drifter and operator or just operator?

[winged obsidian]

As far as we know, it’s just Operator getting the visual update

[hearty pendant]

drifter will prolly get one later but its just operator for now, yeah

[river delta]

Got it, thanks guys

[wide elk]

guys

I was in the middle of the ballas during new war.

I may have clipped back out of bounds on the last part

alp, I do not WANT to do the whole sequence again euughh

[tight pagoda]

They specified Operator only when they initially announced this late last year, but I'm sure Drifter will get one someday too

[tight pagoda]

Try /unstuck?

Might send you back where you need to?

[peak cobalt]

Unsure if this belongs in spoilers or lore, so i'll go here.
Warframe 1999 end story

||in 1999 after you "fix" everything/ finish the final quest, quincy and Amir both comment about how they forget everything every time they loop (but have a vague memory that they're in loops, etc)

Does this apply to who you romance too? Like...what are the logistics...In universe, not the game mechanics.

Like 50 first dates or is it different because they're closer to you or something. Is this ever explained? ||

[wide elk]

it just sends me back to that spot on the map

cause I touched valid ground, so it wont send me back to the map I need to be on thats in the sun

[tight pagoda]

It's dependent on whether or not you reset. I think their dialogue is meant to imply "we've looped so many times it's hard to keep track", even if in-game you haven't looped much.

[wide elk]

kinda forgot this appeared here.

getting jumped by everything. MR1 on this one. <3 I love speedrunning the quests to see what its like as a new player. very fun actually

[zenith jacinth]

Oh so there really are no MR locks anymore?

For story progression

[wide elk]

yuuhhh, for majority yup

junctions dont need it either

all main-story dont need MR

[peak cobalt]

I haven't reset or anything in my game, but also I was under the initial impression that the loops kind of blur together and thats what they're getting at, but then i got these chats today from quincy and amir that made me stop and think .

I understand amir's could partially be just "if i write this, the paper will disappear at the end of the loop" but its more than that, and quincy's especially says as much

[zenith jacinth]

👴 back in my day we needed MR5 to get to sedna

[wide elk]

I do NOT miss that actually

needing to get mr5 for vey hek still sucks

fat clown can be skibidi and I would still NOT want to fight his annoying ass

[zenith jacinth]

Well tbf so does the boss

Don't try fighting him melee only. It's not fun.

I made that mistake

[wide elk]

I will never do that for any boss

that has I-frames for anything but specific nodes on their body

staring at lt krill and the flame grineer boss

[zenith jacinth]

And vay hek flies!

[wide elk]

that too...thankfulyl his turkey mode dont have it

[tight pagoda]

DE has been kinda vague on the looping tbh. Like, why exactly must we loop? How does time progress past 1999 if it loops? Why are there some chats where they act like they forget every loop, but the only time the player's "Forget" choice matters is with ||Lizzie knowing we reset time||?

[peak cobalt]

Probably avoiding specifics to not shoot themselves in the foot. time shit is so hard to write and maintain. Maybe they're referencing the loops from before we "got it right" or something.

[lament birch]

I swear, our alignments and resets feel like they should matter

[tight pagoda]

Yeah ultimately the loop only still exists for gameplay purposes, the lore reasons and story seems to have come second

[peak cobalt]

I kind of was under the impression we'll move on from the loop when more story comes out for 1999. IF more story comes out of it.

Like right now its just looping until we figure out what to do about wally

[tight pagoda]

Even if the 1999 story continues after Tau, the loop will still continue for sake of gameplay, with the calendar rewards and the romances

[peak cobalt]

As it's set up now, yeah, but i'm sure if they wanted to it wouldn't be too hard to make some way to finagle it if they really wanted to, but i guess i'm just relieved that that lore surrounding the loops is just fuzzy and i'm not as dumb as i thought LOL

[wide elk]

guys I fell out of the map during cyte's part of the quest

isnt this fun

[tight pagoda]

This is happening a lot to you specifically

[wide elk]

just bounced and slid off the map man.

[wide elk]

not really vague. you havent been paying attention.
"We must know them to save them"
"Keep Wally at bay"

and its also "preservation" of them.

[wide elk]

guys, I think I'm safe. the nuke wont go off. :D

oh hey, map blipping :D
wally please help, I been falling for 10 minutes and im out of energy

[formal maple]

Welcome to my world Kiddo

[wide elk]

[unintelligible screams of the damned]

[lament birch]

/unstuck?

[wide elk]

during the quest, cant open chat

so cannot type commands or nothin'

had to force close the game a second time. thats fine :T
No anger, all humor.

[amber terrace]

So like,,, what is the Indifference? Is it a conscience born of the Void? Is it a reflection of all the volatile emotions of those it comes into direct contact(unshielded Void exposure) with? Was it fully “birthed” by Albrecht’s venture into the Void? If it was birthed of Albrecht’s venture, could The Indifference’s nature be explained by the mental state of Albrecht when he first ventured into the Void?

[wide elk]

All I wanted was to collect the little lore things. a

[obtuse gyro]

Is it a conscience born of the Void?
Maybe?
Is it a reflection of all the volatile emotions of those it comes into direct contact(unshielded Void exposure) with?
Possibly?
Was it fully “birthed” by Albrecht’s venture into the Void?
Into its current state? Yes.
If it was birthed of Albrecht’s venture, could The Indifference’s nature be explained by the mental state of Albrecht when he first ventured into the Void?
Albrecht sure thinks so

[neat jasper]

im sorry?

oh god. buy me dinner first.

[tight pagoda]

We "know" them by the finale, which takes less than one whole loop. As for keeping Wally at bay, we do that with love. Preserving them makes sense, though.

[wooden cedar]

Sorry to Necromancer this... but... I've come onto an idea here.

Talking to Lizzie has revealed to us that The Infestation's Hive-Mind transcends linear time. Everything that is Infested is connected... but its communication are subject to some limiters. With that in mind... it's not really a surprise that the Hex are maintaining some degree of persistence through the Loops. Even with the safeguards that Albrecht put on their specific injections... the Protoframes are still as Infested as any Warframe.

Even though the Techrot can't fully subsume them into the hive... some part of the Hex Members' consciousness exists within the Collective Consciousness of the Infestation. That little bit is probably drip-feeding them pure vibes of who they've grown to be... even if Albrecht's safeguards prevent more overt intrusions.

Make sense?

[rain otter]

I mean it's pretty normal for them. Also you can literally say take it slow.

[neat jasper]

spicy

[rain otter]

Oh aim

[noble drift]

Roughly what I was thinking regarding that too. I would love to get our hands on an infested interface that's good enough at being "small" to communicate but can still access the collected knowledge of the hivemind. Think of all the information stored there... think of how little of it actually applies to our current frames of reference.

[peak cobalt]

Never apologize for necromancy. I love to yap

That makes sense if infestation in them did have that effect, but God that's gotta suck to experience

[wooden cedar]

Now that I think about it... The Infested Hive-Mind is probably critical to Albrecht's Plan to fight the Man in the Walls because of how a person's memories and experiences can bleed across time (and timelines) through it.

Eternalism states that all possible pasts, presents, and futures are equally real. However, there is only one Void shared between all of eternity... and there's only one of the beings that live there. That means that there is only one Man in the Walls... and that there's only one Infested Hive-Mind.

We also know that all Warframes, even Cloned Warframes like the ones we build, inherit a bit of the person used to make the original. Based on what Lizzie has told us... that's probably the Hive-Mind connecting to that Warframe and putting as much of what's supposed to be there in there as it can. However... there can't be a singular original person. There's an infinite number of the "Original Person" smeared across Eternalistic Time... and ALL OF THEM are meeting in the single Hive Mind shared across Eternity.

If the Protoframes are experiencing something similar... then it's not just our versions of the Hex that they're getting vibes from as the Loops keep spinning.

If every Warframe Player is experiencing a bit of the Eternalistic Timeframe where they are the Chosen Operator that Wally cut the deal with, and the other players are effectively just other Tenno in-setting, then there's a 1999 for every player. That means that we aren't just helping one version of the Hex... we're all contributing to strengthening The Hex's "Echo" in the Infested Hive Mind.

Since that Echo has a bit of feedback to every version of The Hex... we're actually changing Time by altering what's POSSIBLE. Because the only things that don't exist across Eternity are the things that can NEVER happen... and our interactions with The Hex (amplified by the Hive Mind giving a feedback loop) are changing what they could even concieve of doing.

All of that sums up to something... kinda amazing: Protoframes can actually "Coordinate" across Eternalistic Time through that feedback loop, that hive-mind bleed... and effectively fight Wally across every possible section of time simultaniously.

Basically... we're writing "LOVE" into The Hex's part of the Hive-Mind across all timelines, and it has a positive feedback loop once it gets up to critical mass.

That's poison to Wally.

[peak cobalt]

I've lost every intelligent word in my brain since it struck 1 am but I do want you to know I'm eating this with a knife and fork and appreciate you reviving my comment to share thiswhole revelation

[wooden cedar]

One last bit.

This isn't overwriting them as people because the Infested Hive-Mind has some degree of distance within itself. There's limits to how fast information can propagate within it, and a lot of its actions are reflexive. The Drones we normally fight are more like White-Blood Cells than animals. That's why Lizzie can't just share her revelations about willing symbiosis with the rest of the Infestation. Knowledge takes time (for lack of a better word) to move around The Void and back into Time.

The Hex is getting a feedback signal from the Infestation... but the propagation of it is slow enough from the perspective of The Void that Albrecht's Safeguards are keeping it under control and preventing them from being subsumed.

I wonder if "Infested Madness" is actually just the feeling of every other Infested version of you slamming your heads together at Mach 5 in the Hive Mind, and a subsequent loss of identity?

[obtuse gyro]

Most of this is pretty bangers, although I am highly skeptical of infested hivemind hex coordination

[wooden cedar]

Coordination is probably too strong a word, tbh... but I don't have a better one.

[obtuse gyro]

It is attached to the idea that there is an in-universe explanation for "everyone is the Chosen one" (in a similar vein to Destiny), but I think its more likely to be a bit more ludonarrative than actual lore

[wooden cedar]

More... like trying to get a self-reinforcing signal going. A lot of tiny efforts that shouldn't matter coming together to make something bigger in The Void.

[obtuse gyro]

I wonder if "Infested Madness" is actually just the feeling of every other Infested version of you slamming your heads together at Mach 5 in the Hive Mind, and a subsequent loss of identity?
According to the chats we have with lizzie, its not so much the slamming of "other" versions of you, but rather the expansion of you to the infested collective. Think of it like your individuality being subsumed into the borg

you go mad because now youre part of something way bigger than your mind and body is supposed to be

[wooden cedar]

I think I'm reading the same sentence from both ends, there, tbh.

You're hitting the collective, the collective is hitting you... none of it is left feeling very good since the Collective doesn't handle integration well.

[obtuse gyro]

I dont think it can be a case of you losing your identity because youre being slammed into other infested versions of yourself, because well, that would just reinforce that identity

because realistically all other players versions of the hex are almost near identical save for the events of a year

If I overlap that many arthur shaped arthurs, all I have is still arthur

[wooden cedar]

Bit of a case of being Mutually Eldrich Abominations, I think.

The Infestation is too alien for us to comprehend it, and we're too alien to the infestation for it to comprehend. Then it just keeps pumping in more people to figure out what we are, because it's fascinated... and it took until Lizzie for it to fully work out what talking to people is.

...

I really want an explanation for how the heck the Helminth Strain got found the first time.

[peak cobalt]

No you have Arthur²

Sorry. Go on.

[obtuse gyro]

found? That jaun was engineered

[obtuse gyro]

Ballas: "We cultured the infestation, conceiving of a hybrid. Transformed, but only just. The Helminth was created, born to yield these new warriors, worthy of battle against you, the great and terrible Hunhow."

[daring yoke]

spoiler chat warframes are actually warframes guys

[obtuse gyro]

Correct

warframes are indeed warframes

[peak cobalt]

Gmo non organic warframes...

[obtuse gyro]

ethically sourced warframes only

[daring yoke]

spoiler alert guys warframes are actually made out of whatever a warframe is made out of

[wooden cedar]

Sorry, got Eternalism on the brain. Everything is found, even if you build it, when you look at it from that perspective. It's all wandering the right path in a random walk.

It's... weird that the Orokin could figure out how to block off the Hive-Mind from being able to fully integrate with Warframes. Feels like there's something more to it than just the Orokin solving physics again. Especially with how much of a pain Wally is to deal with. Only reason he's not a bigger problem is that Albrecht accidentally cut off a finger closing the door.

If the Hive Mind is the same kind of being... what's the finger that got cut off to limit them?

[daring yoke]

warframes are warframes

[peak cobalt]

So helminth was cultured like yeast ,I lost the plot, but its like when you make bred with wild yeast its less uniform and bigger holes in the bread, vs processed clean yeast. Still bacteria but yes :)

Bread :)

[daring yoke]

we are not horses we are warframes is the last line in the story missions

[peak cobalt]

I wish we were the horses so bad

[daring yoke]

i dont have u seen what they pack imagine being a female horse the pain

having to take that galatine from the horse is a nightmare

[peak cobalt]

Good thing im not a female horse, but also not really a warframe spoiler topic !

[obtuse gyro]

Sorry, got Eternalism on the brain. Everything is found, even if you build it, when you look at it from that perspective.
Woah there, thats too deterministic for a game that uses Eternalism non-deterministically
It's... weird that the Orokin could figure out how to block off the Hive-Mind from being able to fully integrate with Warframes.
They were master bioengineers, it wouldnt be surprising, plus like, it only lasted a while before the warframe went un poco loco

[daring yoke]

you havent finished game yet then

we are not horses we are warframes

[peak cobalt]

I think a lot about the fact that wally's motivations are entirely unknown to us and potentially beyond our scope of understanding since we dont even really know /what/ it is

[obtuse gyro]

we see even with alad V and the Entrati family that infestation doesnt immediately lead to full incorporation with the infested

[peak cobalt]

Did you guys know helminth is a real word outside of warframe because I feel stupid when I tried to pull up the wiki.

[undone lodge]

I learned and then forgot all the way up until I had to study it for an assignment

Somehow only made the connection the second time round

[hearty pendant]

speaking of the infested hive
do you think we're going to get anything else on vome n fass's whole.. deal?
why they're the only proper conflict we've seen in the infested

[peak cobalt]

I dunno, but I hope so. Im pretty 'infested'

Ill take myself out back for that one.

[wooden cedar]

I've got Crack Theories for that one.

The one I favor, at the moment, is this: I think the Deimos is the Infestation's version of DARPA, just with less Ethical restraints. It's trying to develop better countermeasures against the threats it is experiencing by setting up an adversarial process on Deimos. Basically playing war-games against itself... but its nature lets live-fire war-games make sense. It's basically using the evolutionary process to refine its tactics and "tools".

Alternatively, it's the Entrani Family's fault. The Infestation found a fascinating strain of Love among that crowd. The mutual belligerence of the Entrani mixed in with how much they care about each-other just caught its attention... and it's emulating them in its own special way as a result. Vome and Fass are basically Daughter and Son hand-puppets while the Infestation tries to work out what it's looking at.

The second is a bit more fun... and leans a bit harder into what we've had with Lizzie of late. A weird case of the Eldrich Abomination becoming fascinated with the things its mind wasn't meant to understand... and causing absolute havoc on those things as it tries to bridge the gap.

[obtuse gyro]

the heck is a darpa

[wooden cedar]

Defense Advanced Research Programs Agency. US Military R&D Division, created after the US got caught with its pants down regarding Sputnik.

Their job is to fund research with potential military or medical applications that won't recieve funding elsewhere, because it's a long-shot. They funded development of the original Internet Protocols, because they needed a distributed communication system that wouldn't utterly fail if a Telephone Hub got nuked.

[peak cobalt]

Dragons and rats party always.

#facts

[hearty pendant]

those are interesting theories, yeah
the war-games approach is interesting but not very likely, i think
because they're not having small conflicts, one reforms and kills the other immediately, all infested there "swap" to the active sibling
i could see the relationships of the entrati fam bleeding into the landscape of deimos and creating that conflict, though. a little basic for the explanation but its probably the most likely

[peak cobalt]

Occam's razor and all that

[wooden cedar]

I don't think "The Eldritch Abomination is trying to overcome the limits of its nature and comprehend things the Hive-Mind was never meant to know" is a little beyond basic.

Kinda just flips the normal script on its head. Usually, it's the poor humans (and near-humans in the Entrani and Tenno cases) who go mad trying to figure out what the heck they're looking at.

[peak cobalt]

I think the madness just comes from trying to fill a bucket with the ocean. There's too much of everything and nowhere for it to go unless youre allocating resources to the hive mind.

[wooden cedar]

I was more talking Lovecraftian Horror than the Infestation, there... because the Infestation is really Lovecraftian in a interesting way.

[peak cobalt]

I can't read :)

[wooden cedar]

Most Lovecraftian Horror is rooted in the sheer indifference of those Eldritch beings that could crush you without ever realizing you exist. It's a lot of what makes Wally concerning, especially if he ever gets his finger back and stops being bound to the Strands of Khra.

The Infestation is a spin on that same theme... except it's terrifying for the exact opposite reason. This Eldritch Being that our minds cannot begin to comprehend in its entireity... loves us. It loves us so much that it wants to be close to us... on a cellular level. The horror is that it wants us... but it fundamentally can't understand us, either. Its efforts to do so in spite of its limitations... aren't pleasant.

[noble drift]

I think Wally's got a bit of that going on too, what with all his creepy clones going around trying to be other people to understand those people. Trying to discover empathy by taking the literal dictionary definition of "putting yourself in somebody else's place"... and then using it on a bunch of people with really warped world views.

[peak cobalt]

My gamer theory on wally is that he feeds on potential, on possibility, what can be. If that makes sense.

So anything that limits possibility by locking things into a certain timelines is a no-go for him.

My interpretation of the zariman scene was not only him culling off all your "possibility" but devouring it.

Big theory, I don't have solid evidence for this.

[zenith jacinth]

Counter: wally collapsed all versions of baro into a single one

[rain dew]

Wally axing off all versions of the Operator/Drifter down to only two

[fossil wadi]

Is it Aoi’s powers or the radiation that kills Aoi?

[livid glen]

Yes

[fossil wadi]

That doesn’t answer anything

[zenith jacinth]

Strain from being too inexperienced at being magnetism

[fossil wadi]

Makes sense

[remote sundial]

how do i repent for accidentally making amir sad

[peak cobalt]

It wasn't even inexperience, She was trying so hard to do the task she thought she needed that she didn't think outside the box and realize she was doing extra work.

but yeah literally popped her brain from strain

[lunar adder]

what is this and what do I do about it

[cerulean kiln]

Wait to get attacked
Attack them

[lunar adder]

ight

[opaque dove]

The Grustrag have a penalty for getting beat by them

[rain otter]

So does Zanukia hunter

[boreal pewter]

Basically, if you work for the grineer for 5 invasion missions, you get marked by zanuka, which means there's a low chance zanuka will show up in a corpus tileset to try and capture you. if you get caught, you're transported to jupiter and have to try to escape. if you kill it, you might get a Detron weapon part.

If you work for the corpus for 5 invasion missions, you get marked by the grustrag 3, which means there's a low chance they'll show up in a grineer tileset to try and nerf you. if they down you successfully, they'll put an ascaris negator on you, which cuts your stats. if you beat em, you get might get a multishot mod, a Brakk part, and a compenent for an orbiter ship.

[uncut gazelle]

spoider scene from octavia anthem quest.
whoever made this quest gameplay i really dislike you :/

[languid sandal]

Fr

It took me too long and it was soooo confusing because I got it thing right

Like the points and got rid of all the red ones

It made me do like 5 laps and that thing feels long and never ending because it's in a circle

[misty veldt]

Its a cool set peice tho

[uncut gazelle]

Its cool but i hope it was 1 staged instead of 3 staged

[uncut gazelle]

And in top of that you have to it 3 times XD

[uncut gazelle]

Spoider XD i meant spoiler*

[languid sandal]

Fr

[tropic venture]

at least it's cool when the music syncs up

[soft pumice]

I often forget just how amazing there key art is for update can be.

[shadow forum]

I'm curious. The old peace. How they managed to make that school for sentients and tenno.
When was builded and by whom.
And how sentients came in contact first time with tenno or normal human became a tenno.

[obtuse gyro]

How they managed to make that school for sentients and tenno. When was builded and by whom.
Find out in the Old Peace I guess?
And how sentients came in contact first time with tenno
During the Old War, probably before the Old Peace for you to be sent as a representative for the Orokin
or normal human became a tenno.
We know this. They are child survivors of the Zariman incident, given void powers from The Man in The Wall after you make a deal with him

[shadow forum]

Does hidden message and the man in the wall have some connection maybe.

[undone lodge]

Why would it?

[shadow forum]

🤔 did you ever tried to play hidden message there it told about the word man in the wall

[real niche]

What?

There's nothing about Wally in Hidden Messages

[undone lodge]

It’s a simple quest about a Warframe that fought Sentients before Wally even made an appearance in the story, somehow I doubt there’s anything to do with him

Are you talking about the riddle that mentions ancient gods?

[real niche]

It was three years before even Chains of Harrow

[undone lodge]

Because that’s about the Greek gods, not anything Warframe, to nod to Greece and Mars both having Olympus

[shadow forum]

Yea but what is interesting it's that we will see again in the flesh the old peace like a protoframe.

But only a dream I hope

[zenith jacinth]

??

[shadow forum]

Warrframes

[rain dew]

????

[real niche]

What are you even talking about anymore

[soft pumice]

I'm guessing it was grown like the rest of the oroken towers we have encountered. Yaa that's a fact for ya they grown not made.

[fervent valley]

Was having some fun with perspective during ‘The New War’

[tight pagoda]

awesome! Kinda reminds me of how they depict Spidey sense in some Spider-Man comics

[fervent valley]

Oh yeah!

[soft pumice]

still sad they patched this bug

[late wind]

lettie: "it's impossible to think like a god so dont act like you know it >:("
eleanor: "if that thing so much as thinks about it i'll kill it myself"

[opaque dove]

What was this for?

[late wind]

idk, a chat i had with lettie about the indifference had her get annoyed or something at a "what i'd do in its shoes" hypothetical
meanwhile a chat i just had with eleanor sounded like she was ready to kill god

[misty veldt]

I once had a chat with aoi that said that if I remember right said that we have one of wallys fingers in our railjack

[balmy storm]

Yeah
We’ve been able to see it for years

Ever since we installed it actually

Like the game shows it to you
It taps the glass

[misty veldt]

I never knew thats what it was honestly. Could never see it

[balmy storm]

I remember when we had no idea why there was a finger in there lol