spoiler-chat

[robust swallow]

a choice

[night grail]

One that means nothing really

Sigma is probably the better choice

But its like, neither are really actually that good afaik

[soft pumice]

The sword and shield are a fun weapon that can work in steel path

[zenith jacinth]

Some time before 2022

[tribal elbow]

Is there any known link between the Grineer calling the Sentients "Worms", and the younger Grineer Queen being called the Worm Queen?

[obtuse gyro]

no

[tight pagoda]

Maybe they view the Queens as gods or something and thus seeing the Sentients they're in awe

but I'm not sure the Grineer actually refer to the Worm Queen as the Worm Queen

[nova harness]

They don't

Worm and Elder were purely for us to know the difference and they just call her the Queen

[lime bane]

cool

[tribal elbow]

It's not just out-of-game. The other queen calls her Worm multiple times. Guess it's just a nickname, possibly as an insult, since the Elder Queen did seem to look down on the Worm Queen.

[tropic venture]

yeah the only Grineer to call her Worm is the Elder Queen

[frail parcel]

who needs a body anyways

[nova harness]

Orokin

[half light]

I was going to ask why the queens wanted the operator as a new body then i remembered the average grineer's lifespan is not that long or healthy

Couldn't they have commisioned tyl regor for a better than average body ?

[tropic venture]

"We've lived as filthy Grineer for too long. I deserve my fresh Yuvan" (paraphrased)

[tight pagoda]

Yeah now that the Tenno were active again, they wanted fresh bodies

[nova harness]

They commissioned him to cure Grineer of the rot almost worked but we stopped it

[tropic venture]

yep

Operation: Tubemen

[tight pagoda]

Oh and by War Within, Tyl Regor is probably dead

[tropic venture]

his Assassination on Uranus is when he canonically dies yeah

Tyana Pass and all that takes place before it

[tight pagoda]

mhm

Natah ends with Lotus telling you to kill him, next junction has an objective to assassinate him

[tropic venture]

it's a bit of a shame how disconnected base Star Chart feels due to like 75% of its story being in old events

[tight pagoda]

Yeah they could really try bringing back some Nightwave stories as side quests

I wouldn't mind if they put the story on hold for a bit (after this arc, because I'm hungry) to bring back older content in some shape or form

[tropic venture]

Funny how Alad V is one of the most important characters in the game, yet currently he is a side character in one quest, a main character in another, and then his Assassination

cause all of his other story stuff are old events

[fickle hedge]

Im doing the hex quest. what should i pick?

[obtuse gyro]

any, doesnt particularily matter

[fickle hedge]

Ok ty

[tight pagoda]

Each gets a bit of limelight besides Aoi

[tropic venture]

Kinda just affects who you get to play as for one segment (the others all hang along with you during it)

[fickle hedge]

Is this Saryn?!?

If so why did she turn evil?

[balmy storm]

No.

[amber terrace]

Okay, so Proto Saryn is actually the lady’s adoptive mom

[balmy storm]

Russalka has never been nor planned to be Saryn

[amber terrace]

And as to why she turned evil? Wellllll she’s currently a flesh puppet for Wally

[zenith jacinth]

The return of the pointless assumption

[amber terrace]

Or at least that’s the running wager, if you’re not Minerva or Velimir

[balmy storm]

She’s being possessed by Wally

Like a warframe basically

[amber terrace]

I mean, you can try to sell that to Velimir and Minerva, that’ll go good, especially after the KIM chat that appears after you collect all the Isleweaver fragments

[balmy storm]

Wdym
She just is possessed by him :p

She let him in, but she no longer has control of her body

[amber terrace]

I may be misinterpreting the dialogue in the KIM chat that we have with Velimir and Minerva after we collect all of the Isleweaver fragments

[balmy storm]

She is still present, but he is in control of her
We don’t know if she is solidly on his side or not

[rain otter]

This isn't ranked choice so it's not fair. Drifter and Backroom are tied for me.

[pliant spade]

no dormizone

[zenith jacinth]

Not a base of operations

[pliant spade]

but

[zenith jacinth]

'Tis a shame, but DE refuses to make it one

[rain otter]

@zenith jacinth they said they might

In a recent post.

[zenith jacinth]

Whoh

🙏

[lime venture]

I WISH dormizone was an option

[ocean lodge]

@lime venture me too you can decorate it but cat use it as a base of operation is crazy

[fickle hedge]

From where do i get this backpack? the one on the right

[hearty pendant]

varzia for regal aya OR if you already have the tennocon 2024 syandana (which it looks like you do?) it should already be in your inventory

[fickle hedge]

Tyvm ❤️

[stuck latch]

Found the railjack lodged in the helminth room of the backroom?

[hearty pendant]

huh.

[covert tree]

Fog it railjack in 1999

[rain otter]

That's a hilarious bug.

[stuck latch]

my question is why's the model loaded in there in the first place? xD

[rain otter]

Well it's loaded in at least the inside in Drifter Camp and the orbiter proper

So when they made the backrooms they might have just basically put it on the same base level editors OR the flag for being a base of operations might need a RJ.

[uncut bane]

So we have a Grineer open world, Corpus open world, Infested open world, Void/sorta vaguely Orokin-esque looking (somewhat) open world in Duviri

Obviously the next one that comes logically is the Sentient open world, right??? What I'm trying to say is to gamble your life savings away on Tau Open World stocks

[celest forge]

its new that narmer propaganda drone floating at 3rd orb pond ?

[obtuse gyro]

been there for a long while now

[glacial gorge]

Has anyone experienced this in 1999?
I completed Even The Odds yesterday after reset, however I was finishing the previous week's task of the same name. I'm pretty sure that's what caused this issue, as I've restarted my client a few times since then and killed over 1,000 1999 enemies between the initial completion and these screenshots.
I seem to be locked out of calendar progression.

I've got a ticket open and I'll post to the forums later, though I haven't had much luck with the latter in the past.

[stray oriole]

that leads to the famous question : 3rd orb when ?

[tight pagoda]

Tomorrow

Shadow drops an 8vE raid update

No teaser at all

Not even a mention that they did so at Tennocon

[livid portal]

Raids are coming back??

[graceful zodiac]

No

[livid portal]

Oh

[amber terrace]

Prime Resurgence. Although, if you have the Tennocon 2024 syandana, you should’ve gotten the Drippy Syandana for free?

[raw arch]

Cast and cry, cast and cry. Raise the million pylons high.
All our kin were bound to fly for that far shore forlorn
Onward hie, onward hie. Who but we may tame the sky.
Who But we shall distant die on that far shore forlorn.

Velvet blue the meadows lie. Though the haughty ones defy,
Gold shall never break our tie to that far shore forlorn.
Onward hie, onward hie. Who but we may tame the sky.
Who But we shall distant die on that far shore forlorn.

"WE SWORE TO CARRY THE SACRED LIGHT OF OUR DOMINION INTO THE DEEPEST DARK"

"AND THIS, WE HAVE DONE. SWEAR NOW TO DEFEND THIS HOLY TREATY"

Video description on YT:

Our history is smoke. Blurred by dreams. Guided by ghosts.

Your masters sent steel and flesh to cross the gap: clay they wished to rule and sculpt into a new and toxic paradise

Discord download File name:
TC2025_Volt.mp4
TC2025_Mag.mp4

Maybe a pattern hitting at a 3rd video with Excalibur being the file name

Stitched the 2 videos together

[stray oriole]

ty

[lime bane]

cant make out whats the first corpse after mag is

[obtuse gyro]

Ember

[limpid smelt]

Ember on the right, then i think a grineer ? then Nyx and Rhino, then Volt

[obtuse gyro]

and then loki

[median carbon]

Frost prime is the last one, how does everyone keep mistaking that for Volt 🤨

[obtuse gyro]

because... it is a volt?

[median carbon]

Ahh shit, nevermind you right. My bad

[woeful patio]

Did you guys realised... The line" i can be your father, your lover your friend" sounds more like a threat?
Like wally really can be anyone even dead people, so imagine soon after this we see our lover proto or one of our parents just stading behind a corner or somewhere, just glaring at us whem we look back we dont see it, but enough to notice it

This could be a sharp hit against drifter sanity that was restored but CAN be easily shatered appart
Drifter found the hex as family and home so breaking it could be a cruel way to hurt drifter

I was happy seeing this like saying "oh damn mommy rusalka want to be my lover~!!" But now is just... Fear.

[limpid smelt]

they did say the next story update is taking on more darker themes

[opaque dove]

That’s Wally for ya

[woeful patio]

Wha??

[unborn pagoda]

They told that WF would take a darker path now right? Yeah that scares me

[woeful patio]

Well in that case i hope all i said was just a theory and dont happen bc im not ready for this type of fear : D

[unborn pagoda]

🫠 my heart will not hold losing mommy lotus again honestly

[livid portal]

Well warframe has a M rating so who knows what DE is cooking

[woeful patio]

By what it seems drifter is completely traumatized because of its parents, so weaponize a child trauma is just as easy as drinking water

For wally...

Or this happen or space mom dies... Again.

Hopefully none of this happen and just be edgy

Right?..

[livid portal]

I don't think she will die for a while

[graceful zodiac]

I would say you're definitely overthinking things

[limpid smelt]

yeah space mom is here to stay

[leaden pulsar]

I just know this game has made me feel for 8 years and this is the first time I've felt enough to say something. The music, the visuals. I'm trying so hard to not cry already. What if this is the timeline where we lost the old war? I have no idea tbh, but I've seen weirder stuff....like preggo warframes

[unborn pagoda]

Hopefully, but honestly I'm still curious on what Wally wants and what Entrati is planning

[woeful patio]

I was hyped bc... DAMN WARFRAMES CAN BE PREGNATED HEHEHEHE... just on the end of quest i was crying as harder whem i was a kid

HOW DE manage to do it

IM A GROWN WOMAN CRYING OVER A VIRTUAL MOM FRAME DEATH

And a widow husband that just become father

I used to kill this guy as a normal acolyte

Nos i feel dread everytime i kill him

[limpid smelt]

have you got a stalker invade while you were playing Jade ?

[livid portal]

If you have jade equiped he leaves but still drops stuff

[limpid smelt]

one of the best interactions in this game

[woeful patio]

"never" HAHAHAHA You filthy bastard you could kill me but noooo... You choosed to hurt my heart even more

[livid portal]

It is quite sad tbh

[limpid smelt]

yeah... yet he should be raising his son instead of chasing us

but i understand for gameplay reasons

[livid portal]

Is his child a son or daughter?

[limpid smelt]

*child

[woeful patio]

Its weird because i feel uncomfortable to go on tenshin relay now, because everytime i go there i see the feathers and i just get slapped on the face by the lore on it.

"i want my mommy" yeah kid me too.

[livid portal]

Maybe in the future they could bring teshin from duviri to the origin system but this probably won't happen

[limpid smelt]

probably not, he got his closure ig

[woeful patio]

Tenshin need a a good day for once ... I tough in giving him to varzia buut... I dont think its a good thing

He may die for good on this attempt

But nvm

[limpid smelt]

he should hookup with Acrithis methinks

[livid portal]

Varzia do be hot though

[woeful patio]

For a old woman she still on peak physique

A "fine wine"

[opaque dove]

She was on ice at a certain point

[woeful patio]

Well still

Its been awhile since she was awake

Like a really long time already

[livid portal]

Yeah

I don't think teshin was on it though unless I'm getting mixed up?

[woeful patio]

Tenshin was awake long enough to see

The operators awake again,

The warframes walk around once again

Be controled by the queens for lua knows how long

I think our tenshin was a lil old at the time

[livid portal]

He did still look a bit young for how long he was up

[woeful patio]

Maybe... The pros of being a dax?

I mean... They are supposed to be the peak of human, super soldiers

Soo influence of the dax soldiers project?

[livid portal]

Most likely

[faint thunder]

I hope that Umbra becomes relevant again somehow, I would like to see him wander around in the new area that's probably coming in the update

Let me go on a picnic with him, he can be the operator's adoptive dad

[west shoal]

The child's a boy. Both name options are male

[livid portal]

I think they should make him wonder in the orbiter as he does

[livid portal]

I did not know that thank you

[west shoal]

Stalker should have a quest where he kidnaps the operator to Babysit

[livid portal]

April fools update!!

[west shoal]

Can you imagine having Orion/Sirius sitting in our lap while we read him Tales From Duviri?

[west shoal]

He technically already is with how protective he is, but yeah

[faint thunder]

Stalker has a quest where he becomes a ||secret romance option and the Drifter can romance the Stalker.||

PLEASE

[west shoal]

NOOOOOOO 🤣

Lol nah
Him and Jade all the way

[tropic venture]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-15059729514926516797

[faint thunder]

My Drifter is not the Step-mom, she's the mom who stepped up

[amber terrace]

Nah, I don’t want Gabriel, I want Hunhow

[faint thunder]

do NOT peepaw

[west shoal]

Look look look we possess Jade anyway we just pilot her to let her take care of her baby

[tropic venture]

so real

[amber terrace]

He stole me when he called me a vainglorious whelp

[faint thunder]

understandable, i too would easily keel over if someone called me a vainglorious whelp

[tropic venture]

We're Hunhow's friend but where are our benefits

[west shoal]

Stalker pops up at the Drifters camp with Orion/Sirius anyway when we have Jade on and Ordis thinks she wanted to be remade as one of our frames so it stands to reason she figured out how to have her cake and eat it too (by cloning herself)

[wild wind]

he gives you Nataruk and sends Stalker to drop off free mods and blueprints every week

[livid portal]

Natahruk I would assume but that was to kill the archons

[amber terrace]

I mean,,, we have the Nataruk?

[wild wind]

don't be ungrateful

[tropic venture]

"Benefits" from our Friend

[west shoal]

She sacrifices herself so the baby can be born
Then Lets the operator pilot a clone so her son could still have his mother

[wild wind]

heck there's even a whole bundle called "Hunhow's Gift"

[west shoal]

Wait there's a bundle?

[wild wind]

yeah it's the Pakal armor and War etc

[faint thunder]

I'm just starting to wonder if the six forms of love really is the only way to defeat Wally

Projecting images of Loid x Entrati into Wally's head to defeat them

[livid portal]

I would assume he could give us more in the future as we are headed into tau but honestly I think natatuk was a pretty good gift

[amber terrace]

What if,,, Hunhow is our mission manager in Tau? Imagine an exterminate with Hunhow whispering sweet nothings in our ear

[livid portal]

I think that may be the case or something like it

[west shoal]

Him and his wife talking while we deal with sentients or Murmur
Actually no I want his wife to be the mission manager

[wild wind]

unfortunatelty unlikely

[livid portal]

Phragasa is braindead is she not

[wild wind]

since he can't make the void jump

[livid portal]

Stick him on whatever ship we are using to jump

[wild wind]

Praghasa is an interesting case because she's braindead in the game but in the initial New War trailer she's the main villain

they ended up not going that route but she was originally going to be active and awake

[wild wind]

ololol

[livid portal]

Her uses can be used she has been brain dead maybe since before the old war or after it

[wild wind]

before, she's how the Sentients made it to the Origin System

the sentients ended up "only" rendered infertile because they were all inside her

[livid portal]

Her abilities to do things like sucking up the sun to jump are still available

[wild wind]

yeah but her doing the jump would destroy the Origin System

because she needs to eat the sun to do it

that'll probably be what the Sol node is about, stopping her from doing that

[livid portal]

She was seen sucking up another sun in the new war trailer years back

[wild wind]

er, she was sucking up the sun in the New War

[livid portal]

Our sun by ballas but it was a trailer in 2019 iirc

I may be wrong about this but natah/lotus may be the only person to control natah as ballas kissed her in the new war and took something from her then he opened up a portal to the void and the operator and lotus went away

Don't take this for certain though

[wild wind]

as far as we know Ballas just kissed her to piss us off

they used Natah to reactivate Praghasa

[livid portal]

An effect showed up so he most have took something then she regained it at the end and then it stopped

[livid portal]

Yep

[wild wind]

no no, when she succs him she's eating the last eidolon shard to return to being herself

[livid portal]

Yes but it happend when we showed up the first time we showed up with her being fine

No archon shards where they at that time

[wild wind]

oh, no, she wasn't fine when we showed up

During Orphix Venom we got weird messages from her

if you arranged them properly it spelled out I AM DYING

[tropic venture]

I mean he probably did take something from her there, but did it via kissing her just to piss us off

[livid portal]

She was more fine then until after

[wild wind]

because during the Erra section of Prelude to War they forced her to awaken Praghasa, which is why she's mostly dead when we see her again

like, you can look at her when we first reach the throne room and she looks nothing like Natah from The Sacrifice

[livid portal]

I meant she was more fine then than when she was with the drifter in the chair

[tropic venture]

yep, and the reason they want the Archons to get stronger is so they can keep reviving Natah to effectively "recharge" her as their battery

So they can keep draining until she dies over and over

[wild wind]

that's because she fell straight into the void

which annihilated the rest of her body and melted the hand down to the eidolon bone

[tropic venture]

yeah we revived her from the hand, the rest of her body is very likely to just be gone

[wild wind]

it's frankly a freak accident that the hand landed in Duviri

[livid portal]

Yes but until ballas took her thingy she was still alright

To a degree

[tropic venture]

I mean I feel it very much sought out the "Tenno", which in this case ironically was an "us" that is not a Tenno technically

[wild wind]

The hand didn't quite have that level of power

It's purely... not serendipity, but maybe a bit of causality manipulation from our friend in the wall

[tropic venture]

Not in a conscious way, more just intrinsically

[wild wind]

Because the Drifter was also about to have a sword stuck through him

[tropic venture]

That is also a likely variable

[wild wind]

And then Paracesis stabbed the Drifter

[tropic venture]

They were executed daily for years

[wild wind]

Actually now that I think about it it probably WAS the hand

[tropic venture]

mmm I love when I send a message right as the person is sending another so now it looks like I missed their point

[wild wind]

The void responds to emotion not will

She wanted the Tenno and landed next to them

[livid portal]

I do not think her hand was responsible. Ballas had gotten her power and then cast her aside and with the operator

[tropic venture]

Maybe it was like
She and the Operator was thrown into the Void together
So they'd land together
"She" landed at "the Operator"

The Void does love its loophole technicalities

[livid portal]

Her body ended up elsewhere as there is a skin which is of duviri looks

[tropic venture]

Deluxe skins aren't to be considered canon in 90% of cases

There's some singular outliers but

[livid portal]

That one could be but you are right

Without her hand and her guiding us it may have turned out different

[tropic venture]

Deluxe skins are basically "non-canon until directly, clearly, explicitly and undeniably shown otherwise"

The only case I can think of where a Deluxe skin is 100% canon is Valkyr Gersemi

[livid portal]

They do a q and a at certain times so if there is one I'll ask it

[tropic venture]

Sevagoth Glaukus references Hydroid Rakkam, but neither are confirmed to actually exist in-universe

[echo verge]

If Gersemi is canon why does prime look more like base Valkyr instead of Gersemi?

[livid portal]

That is cannon iirc

[graceful zodiac]

Prime is a mix of both

[obtuse gyro]

Well, as you can see, sometimes warframes can have cool details

And in the case of Kitty Prime, her skin is all on

[lime estuary]

You should watch that video at the end again. Ballas didn't say "Valkyr".

[echo verge]

I know

[zenith jacinth]

Very cool detail

[echo verge]

He says something about "that is why they will destroy us" or something along those lines

[supple igloo]

He said exactly that

[echo verge]

Honestly I really like Ballas' dialogues in the prime trailers, they're pretty cool most of the time

[supple igloo]

Yeah, my favorite is the Gauss & Grendel Prime ones.

[echo verge]

Well, I put this ugly ""comparison"" together and honestly I don't see much resemblance between Gersemi and prime

[echo verge]

Absolutely based

[west shoal]

I think the reason she didn't come over was because then she couldn't make anymore sentients, being the "Mother" and all

[west shoal]

Valkyr's supposed to be flayed right?

Like her armor is gone and it's all raw muscle?

[echo verge]

I don't think prime Valkyr is flayed tho, since that would mean she was primed after the whole Alad V incident

Normal Valkyr is there to make the comparison

[west shoal]

Yeah thats what I'm asking about

[echo verge]

Base one yes, Gersemi and prime not

[west shoal]

How are we cloning a post flayed WF? You'd think that wouldn't be possible

[zenith jacinth]

I see some similarities

[echo verge]

There isn't a clear answer

There are theories, but nothing official

[livid portal]

Unless she needs the lotus/ natah to be able to do other things like that but refuses to?

[echo verge]

Really? I didn't see anything

[west shoal]

So part of Natah becoming Lotus is she wanted to be a mother, but the void jump renders sentients sterile

Hence why she turned against the cuckoo plan

[zenith jacinth]

Mainly the sorta kinda open jacket looking outline on the torso

[west shoal]

Same

[echo verge]

I mean, outside of that she doesn't look like Gersemi at all

[wild wind]

Sentient genders don't make sense tbh. Hunhow is her father and is also the one who gave birth to Natah

[livid portal]

Pretty sure anything void related could make sentients sterile

[zenith jacinth]

Well yeah gersemi is shiny and blue, valkyr prime isn't

[west shoal]

"Gave birth to?!"

[zenith jacinth]

Also primes generally deviate from the base in design

[echo verge]

You know what I'm talking about

[zenith jacinth]

I don't

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[wild wind]

Canonically!

[west shoal]

Where do we learn that bit?

[livid portal]

Primes were the original apart from certain frames

[echo verge]

Details, like the shackles on her wrists and the thing behind her head, those details

[wild wind]

He says so during Second Dream

Or wait might be New War

[zenith jacinth]

No

[west shoal]

I mean it makes sort of sense because computers buuuut that doesn't line up

[livid portal]

Am I wrong?

[wild wind]

Yes

[zenith jacinth]

Some frames earned it, others were primed from the start

[wild wind]

Primes were primes

There's no pattern

Lavos made HIMSELF prime

[livid portal]

That's why I said the other bit apart from a few who ascended

[wild wind]

Again, no

[echo verge]

But he's not sentient is he? How did he turn himself prime?

[wild wind]

Just no pattern whatsoever

[zenith jacinth]

Alchemy

[wild wind]

The original was

We don't have the original

[echo verge]

Oh ok

[zenith jacinth]

That's never specified

[echo verge]

If he's not then there's no way he'd do it himself as he's just a frame

[zenith jacinth]

An operator could do it controlling him

The supposed first lavos learned a lot from javi

[wild wind]

He either had a Tenno or was sapient, either way

I actually think he has an operator

[echo verge]

In that case the prime was made by his operator

[leaden pulsar]

What if his operator was the alchemist that did it?

[zenith jacinth]

There's no distinction made between tenno and frame in 99% of texts

[leaden pulsar]

Maybe some continuity razzle dazzle that the orokin loved LUL

I guarantee the alchemists would have played with the red kuva at the very least. We also know of blue kuva...

That is, if the orokin let them

[zenith jacinth]

Existence of bluva is still dubious at best

[leaden pulsar]

Wasnt that the stuff used during the orokin Naberous story?

[wild wind]

Outside of Kullervo, every Warframe we hear about is actually a Tenno controlling the Warframe

[leaden pulsar]

From gma

[zenith jacinth]

That's the thing, the only mention is during a halloween story

[wild wind]

With just a tiny number of "maybe"s

[leaden pulsar]

Fair enough. I just also wouldnt doubt they kept the temp Kuva under wraps to keep it from being abused in more similar manners....maybe those orokin set the precedent and they locked it away? Time will probably never tell 🤣

[leaden pulsar]

Can we confirm with Oraxia? I haven't delved into her lore completely lol

[west shoal]

Can't find the Lavos Prime trailer

[west shoal]

Something something lead into gold sounds about right for an Alchemy Frame

[wild wind]

She doesn't have any lore one way or the other, which usually defaults to "has a Tenno"

[stray oriole]

In fact there are a lot other missing prime trailers

[west shoal]

Except in the trailers where Ballas is talking about the person being experimented on

[west shoal]

REALLY?!
Oh thats not fair!

[graceful zodiac]

The trailers are just describing what went into making that frame. Those frame still (usually) have an operator

[west shoal]

She has implied lore

[mild needle]

As far as I know, we have no info about whether Oraxia has an operator or not. Technically I don't know if we even know if Kullervo has one (unless it's stated somewhere and I missed it), theoretically he could have a dreaming operator somewhere, inside Duviri or outside it.

[graceful zodiac]

Kullervo would have no Operator, he was made before them

[west shoal]

Yes,
So Gara was a Dax who went "make me into a Warframe"
Khora was made from Marguilis's body
Yareli was a kid/young adult who openly mocked the Orokin
Etc

[zenith jacinth]

He doesn't have one, the "primed himself" thing is from his in-game description

[wild wind]

Even most of them would have Tenno, tbh

[west shoal]

Well yeah that's a given

[zenith jacinth]

1. Job of subject is not specified
2. Margulis was turned into mist and gore
3. Yes

[west shoal]

Ah okay

[stray oriole]

Sevagoth, lavos, harrow, baruuk, even chroma

[graceful zodiac]

Mistake on that one

[stray oriole]

I was excited to see a trailer for baruuk prime but nothing happened

[west shoal]

Margulis got Jade lighted?

Jaded?🥁

[mild needle]

Does that mean he might be from the same set as Xaku (adrift in the void, Xaku came back as 3 made 1, Kullervo ended up in Duviri)?

[stray oriole]

Jadead

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[zenith jacinth]

The parts of xaku are forgotten frames

[stray oriole]

Xaku didn't get a prime trailer damn

[zenith jacinth]

Also the abilities of their 3 are from the lost frames

[west shoal]

Likely the guys and gals who got axed in stealth jellyfish IVARA her story

[graceful zodiac]

The only confirmed frames with No Operator at all are Kullervo and Dante

[west shoal]

Couldn't remember her name

[stray oriole]

Fck ivara prime trailer is missing too that's way too much

[west shoal]

What about Ob
One of them was made by Entrati specifically for us

[zenith jacinth]

The xaku parts were lost in void expeditions

[graceful zodiac]

Dagath is likely, but still a margin for error

[west shoal]

Dangit

[zenith jacinth]

Oraxia is implied

[west shoal]

Again
Not fair
I wanna learn about my crew...

Calling them dollies doesn't seem right

Or puppets

[zenith jacinth]

Learning about frames removed from record will be difficult

Though not impossible considering cyte

[west shoal]

Cyte?

And the Levarian whenever they update that next

[zenith jacinth]

Almost all info about him is gone except for a batch name

[west shoal]

OH right

Amd he was an Assassin for the Orokin

(Which frame wasn't though)

Besides Lavos, Harrow, Protea...

[graceful zodiac]

Only Ash and Cyte are assassins

[wild wind]

No, not at all

Those never got back from their test and were decomissioned

So they wouldn't have been given to the Entrati family for void excursions

[supple igloo]

IDK why but these videos are very Hollow Knight-esque.

[stray oriole]

The pregnant warframe is just an old weird fetish that came true

[rain otter]

the last one is slightly wrong.

@west shoal becuase she wasn't just a young kid she was specificlly a Yuvan which is the people the orokin use to continuity into.

[thick jolt]

pretty sure second aint right either

the descriptions we have of the jade light don't sound like they would leave a body to make a warframe out of

[graceful zodiac]

They don't

The description we have is "mist and gore"

[steep totem]

it's apparently enough for the Orokin to fearJavi could survive through alchemy
Doesn't sound like that's actually how alchemy works though lol

[zenith jacinth]

Alchemy in wf is very versatile

It can turn people into primordial pulp and primordial pulp that was formerly a human into a snake

[prisma island]

https://youtu.be/VoYivxQeu90?si=LSxavnSJBaim9X_9

[steep totem]

True
But I still don't think that alchemy would give Jade Light immunity

[real pulsar]

anyone fluent in spanish please tell me if I am correct in thinking she said shit weasel? if so thats based

[half night]

Asked my coworker just now, it is indeed shit weasel

[jade crypt]

i mean shes not wrong

that person is a shit weasel

[real pulsar]

W coworker

[real pulsar]

real

[unique pebble]

"little shitty weasel" is the spanish words

[real pulsar]

worddd thanks

[sharp bough]

At the end of The New War ||i get to pick what personality the Lotus will have, and that seems to affect some dialogues later on, can i change her back to Lotus if i replay the quest or does she stays always as the first pick i ever did?||

[molten girder]

No you can't repick if you replay the quest it will be the same personality that you pick when you first played through

So chose carefully

[tight pagoda]

||Her name will stay whatever you choose||. This will grant you the skin. You can buy the other appearances for Platinum later, and you get the original skin regardless.

[dense ice]

AWWW I MISSED THE NATAH SKIN

[nova harness]

Can still buy it though

[dense ice]

but I wanted it to be free

[simple python]

:v

@dense ice I hate to spoil it but Natah's model is weirdly rigged

[dense ice]

Booo

[simple python]

Only her torso up is actually rigged, and as an unfortunate result, Lotus Eaters looks unfortunately funny

As Natah just wiggles around during the main portion of the quest.

[sharp tusk]

If you had to choose, would you choose to experience the backstory of the Operator or Drifter? (no powers, just pure trauma)

[wild wind]

trick question, it's the same backstory!

[undone lodge]

Could always be both, have one of the abilities to be like Caliban and Ivara’s where you can switch through multiple mode options

Oh that was 3 days ago

Mb

[waxen sphinx]

lol

[undone lodge]

Operators

[waxen sphinx]

interesting concept tho. like a triple changer

[undone lodge]

Less time awake than the drifter, and a bunch of that they were only like semi-cognisant

Plus I’d learn a bunch of useful skills even aside from martial arts, gymnastics etc (even if I’d have to adjust a lot of them)

[undone lodge]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking of

[waxen sphinx]

I can imagine normal mode, a bike mode, and an artillery mode

[white sleet]

Uhh

[waxen sphinx]

Huh?

[rugged quest]

what do you get for spending 260 dominus aureus

[zenith jacinth]

A disclaimer from the great DE

[tight pagoda]

Discussion of that, you won't lose one of yours if that's what you're worried about

[boreal pewter]

Lotus isn’t gonna go away for 3 years again is she?

[amber terrace]

Hopefully not

Especially given we can customize Lotus with paid customization

[half night]

Leave mom alone

[humble zinc]

<@&778745217037238293>

[amber terrace]

A metric load of Cetus Wisps

[jolly gate]

at least they're purple

[tacit kayak]

Don't talk to me or my son or my son or my son-

[astral jackal]

If there is a dialogue about resetting it all, there should be a dialogue about not resetting it once

(although the first response it truth)

[cosmic rain]

Mom got got by the forced logout in New War.

[tropic venture]

niceee

it's such a neat moment

[cosmic rain]

Hearing the tone of voice when she called for me about that was special.

Like inside I was going "yessss!"

[rapid forge]

Only reason I reset. To get my boo Amir his full table

[tacit kayak]

real, I made it for my wife bcs she was like I'm still gonna make all the mistakes I did the first time around
but I need to get them playing d&d dangit!

[winged tapir]

spoilers ||me and lotus are dating now guys sorry||

[nova harness]

Ew

That's just wrong on so many levels

[winged tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-uncle-jun-june-gif-23017377

[frail parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

thats our mother

[winged tapir]

irl me not tenno me guys sighhhhhhh

[balmy storm]

That’s our mom

[winged tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/wings-of-redemption-wings-i-cant-take-this-no-more-gif-23668816

[balmy storm]

Yeah you’re going to the deep void

[frail parcel]

nah, the jade light

[pliant spade]

waiting for this as decoration

[vale bloom]

thankfully it doesnt acutally change her personality

just the name she goes by. I picked Magilius for reasons.....mostly involving getting that skin for free. lol

[hearty pendant]

changes how robotic her voice is, and some lines in certain cutscenes (namely angels)

[vale bloom]

really.......I had no idea lol

[rain otter]

no big changes though.

[sharp bough]

oh okay, someone told me it gave different answers depending on who we chose

[vale bloom]

the message you get after picking a name has a different responce beased on what you pick. Otherwise her messages are mostly the same. She's still the lotus in the end.

[night grail]

Hey is anyone just now getting to the hex? Because I have a question about a certain message you get once you complete it

[rain otter]

what is your question?

[vale bloom]

Ive cleaed the whole game. Ask away

[rain otter]

Aquila why do you have no roles still?

[vale bloom]

side note: I love how we have a lore channel and a spoiler channel lol The community is very protective of the newbie experience.

ahhhhhhhhhhhh, Im clueless lol

[hearty pendant]

yet there are still spoilers in general all the time...

[night grail]

Its about if they changed the inbox message for people who complete the hex after the event

[rain otter]

I mean people in general and people in lore are very different. @hearty pendant

we are cooler here in lore and spoiler.

[hearty pendant]

true !

[vale bloom]

I should grab tenno helper now. Ive gotten to the point that thats what I do lol

[rain otter]

it's what we all do lmao.

[vale bloom]

how do I grab a roll?

I am discord clueless depsite using it for I guess a decade now lol

[rain otter]

in welcome

it tells you how.

[hearty pendant]

uhh @night oar seemed to be playing it for the first time a few hours ago, speaking of general chat

[vale bloom]

Which message is that?

I dont think any story related should change at all during and after an event

Huzza, Im a tenno helper now lol

[night grail]

While you were off on your frivolous ventures the Lost Island of Scholar's Landing returned, bringing with it that menace of the Void of which the Scholar spoke.

That she-demon has usurped Our Throne. She must be stopped.

I await you on board the Zariman for a most urgent conference.

His Radiant and Eternal Majesty, Dominus Thrax.``` is the message i have

Because I was there during the event

Also wait

There was no event end message yet was there

But it did end

[hearty pendant]

might happen when thrax actually leaves?

[night grail]

Running theory rn

[hearty pendant]

tennocon shenanigans is the other option

[vale bloom]

oh Isleweaver is just a canon story

I dont think thats just for the event. That text is sent because Isleweaver doesnt disappear. Its still the place to farm spidermech and her weapons and it still an event that happens in the lore.

[night grail]

There's something I cannot mention here

Which is the true reason behind my ask

[night grail]

The event is us working together to banish her afaik

[balmy storm]

We’re cutting the stand of khra that tethers her version of Duviri

[obtuse gyro]

wuh?

[hearty pendant]

@night oar question for you, if you're available
as you're the only one i'm aware of that fits criteria rn lol
what email(s) did you get after completing The Hex?

[obtuse gyro]

ah

[night grail]

Was this before or after Eight Claw ended

[night oar]

this is before ofc

[hearty pendant]

just that one?

[night grail]

I need people who finished the hex afterwards

[night oar]

yes

just this one is what u will get after finishing hex

[night grail]

Nothing from Thrax?

[obtuse gyro]

THERE IT IS!

THATS THE ONE!

[night grail]

Thank you very much

[hearty pendant]

sweet

[night oar]

whats it for anyways?

[hearty pendant]

there was a different email if the hex was completed before eight claw ended
we wanted to know if there was a different one for after

[night oar]

ahhhhh

[night grail]

Technically the truth

[night oar]

glad to be of service then

@night grail is broken war solid for excal?

[night grail]

Yeah Broken War is solid as a whole

[night oar]

but which sword in your opinion is the best for excal?

[night grail]

I personally have Syam equipped because projectile melee but broken war is good

[night oar]

not counting exalted

[night grail]

Yeah I was going to say that exalted blade is probably best especially for me with the braton incarnon I use buffing its own damage and ammo efficiency

And also projectiles...

Syam is a great choice and thematically fits with excalibur

[night oar]

aight

let the grind begin

[night grail]

Projectile is multiplicative with condition overload btw

Its pretty good

[night grail]

@vale bloom this is what I was looking for

[night oar]

syam has heat already right?

[vale bloom]

ah ok. Im not sure if theres any signficant difference between the two but they are different

[night grail]

There isn't a real difference because it is just an inbox message saying "hey you can do Isleweaver now"

It's more for lore purposes

It gives a lore reason of why it stuck around

[vale bloom]

wait? Why did it stick around? Whats the lore reason. Becuase to me the messages just say the same thing.

[night oar]

ahhhh, why is the sun and moon and my amp the only weapons i could use in duviri??

nvm F this, imma do isleweaver

[night grail]

The Apocrypha is apparently the realm of untold stories. And by playing isleweaver after the event you are no longer working to banish the Indifference but instead working to keep it like that

[hearty pendant]

looks like active threat vs 'ignore it too long and it'll be an active threat again' to me

[night grail]

Yeah basically

It reads like the Indifference will keep trying to supplant the true Tales of Duviri so Thrax says "go stop Rusalka every once in a while so Eight Claw doesn't happen again any time soon wink wink"

Because they've given themselves an opening to rerun it in that message

[hearty pendant]

hopefully a while after they've implemented feedback about it lol

[night grail]

BotB reran in like February? About 8 months after the initial run

[vale bloom]

ah ok a sutble difference but makes sense for Duiviri. Just like it cycles through moods where we fight the same boss over and over. It makes sense we cycle through Isleweaver to put it down repeatedly

[zenith jacinth]

Because drifter isn't a warframe

[half viper]

@urban basin 1999 let's you date warframes in the form of hex members

[warm anvil]

weapons arent only usable by warframes

[urban basin]

@half viper I see

[warm anvil]

i think weve seen a teaser where drifter was holding a gun lemme double check

[half viper]

You haven't unlocked the other drifter melee choices

[zenith jacinth]

Most weapons kinda are

[warm anvil]

but like even if I misremembered, a drifter could use a gun 😭

[half viper]

A tigris

[zenith jacinth]

First duviri teaser, tigris

The drifter struggles to even lift it

[half viper]

Knew it was a shotgun of some kind

[warm anvil]

id say that majority of weapons that could be used by a normal human person

youve already got at least 2 guaranteed factions of weapons that you know could be used by a human

[zenith jacinth]

Heavily augmented grineer and the corpus

[tacit kayak]

that's fair, even the nerd engineer can pick up and use a plinx Xd

[zenith jacinth]

Drifter also can't use regular weapons because gameplay

[warm anvil]

yerp

[zenith jacinth]

And lore-wise it'd get too much attention from thrax and he'd just remove them

[tacit kayak]

I kinda waved it off as like thrax not allowing them outside of undercroft normally

[zenith jacinth]

No one controls the undercroft which is why we get limitless frame use there

<@&778745217037238293>

That was very quick

Mildly terrifying

[undone lodge]

Forget the jade light, glass him and put him in an oubliette

[night oar]

armor or ab str for rhino? Bc for some reason ab str feels better since armor only buffs one ability of rhino

[night grail]

Ability strength probably because iron skin also gains from getting hit for a few seconds after casting

[pliant spade]

it just me or k-drive has became 'feature creep'

[rain otter]

Make sure you turn on all conversations

[zenith jacinth]

What

[night oar]

is this ok chat?

been building this goober for a while now

[pliant spade]

my kullervo reached 14k

[night oar]

nice

[rain otter]

Okay But Kullevro doesn't need to do that really now.

He can just use his New augment to keep it up.

Which he kinda needed to do anyway it was just annoying.

[night oar]

[rain otter]

Cool beans.

[night oar]

https://tenor.com/view/beans-animation-meme-gif-26205024

[woven sapphire]

are there animals in Tau? is there any chance there's a cat sentient for Conservation thing? (a catolyst?)

i want more cats

[nova harness]

We don't know as we have little to no info on Tau

[livid glen]

We need a bird sentient companion.

[woven sapphire]

or a bird in general

[tight pagoda]

There could be actual aliens in Tau for all we know (though DE have said they're averse to that idea)

[undone lodge]

I think we’d probably get something like the Sentinels for Tau “wildlife” if we did, depending on the state of Tau

[nova harness]

Them being related at all is still unclear tbh

[tight pagoda]

I'm personally doubting that Tau will have an open world, at least on launch— maybe in a future update.

I mean I'm also doubting we're getting Tau at the end of this year, my guess is just something akin to the 1999 section of Whispers

[livid glen]

I know they will definitely have a syndicate, but void am I hopping it won't. I am so fed up with the syndicate grinds...

[nova harness]

Syndicates are easy to grind tbh

Like each new one added makes it easier

[undone lodge]

Tbh the only one I’ve really found grindy is getting the lanthorns for the Cavia, and that was less it actually needing grind and more just impatience and having used the ones I already had recently

[night grail]

There are sentients based on animals so, maybe????

But we really dont know

[woven sapphire]

catolyst and doggolyst are the only things i ask for

[tight pagoda]

Sentient-based Kubrow and Kavat skins seem reasonable

[livid glen]

Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that I find it obscenely boring. It's the exact same formula for 3 major updates in a row.

[dense ice]

Does erra/pazuul have a topaz archon shard stuck in his head?

[soft pumice]

Hmm idk it looks like just about horn growing

[nova harness]

All Archons have a Shard in them

Pazuul is no exception

[azure solar]

in no way are the weopons we get in warframe "regular"

[azure solar]

the catolyst runs around making enemies stronger and more agressive ad the dogolyst hunts the player down agressively and cannot de-aggro once detecting the player

[azure solar]

eats your jollyrancher

[zenith jacinth]

Regular by game definition

[azure solar]

will the triamph of dust continue to be available?
like the elevator mission is?

[tight pagoda]

Yes

[thick jolt]

Already is pretty sure the event ended only the store is available for a while longer

[tight pagoda]

Correct

[opaque dove]

What’s comes after Triumph of Dust?

[nova harness]

Thrax in the throne

[zenith jacinth]

Unannounced content

[pale violet]

void war

okay I am calling it rn

[zenith jacinth]

That's the entire current story arc

[pale violet]

first story update after tennocon is where we discover that the sun is dying

[pale violet]

second story update we prepare to make the jump but something happens

We are then sucked into a secret war that has going on for eons called the void war

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah nah

[pale violet]

I am right

Juice, Rebecca say nothing if I am correct

anyone else at DE say nothing if I am correct

[balmy storm]

Technically It’s been dying since the day it started burning

The fact it will eventually die is what pushed the Orokin to try and expand
So Zarimans 1 through 10
And the sentients
And then the old war happened

[nova harness]

“We die with the Sun”

[livid glen]

Didn't they try to expand 'cause overpopulation?

[balmy storm]

Erm actually you guys died before the sun cause we killed you

[balmy storm]

No
Due to resource problems

[livid glen]

I mean, that's basically the same problem but ok

[nova harness]

I think it was a mix of both tbh

Overpopulation can lead to resource problems

[livid glen]

Overpopulation is when there is less resources than are needed to supply a population

Above the carrying capacity of an ecosystem, if we talking about earth specifically

[nova harness]

And weirdly enough the Orokin despite never getting Tau suddenly solved the resource problem despite fighting a War

Maybe the problem wasn't lack of resources in the present but lack of resources in the future

[balmy storm]

Yeah, rare case of Orokin foresight

[tight pagoda]

Not necessary to go that far. The game officially calls this arc the Void War in the quest guide.

[pale violet]

all the arcs have a quest with the same name as the arc

awakening saga has the awakening quest

the war within saga has the war within quest

the new war saga

[hearty pendant]

new war ends on a "tease" to the void war, which is more officially picked up in whispers
but DE has labelled it the void war arc, i don't know if any of the other arcs were officially titled before they were complete
other than new war, as it was know that it was leading there for a while afaik

[tight pagoda]

"the void war", imo, sounds a bit too derivative to be the name of the actual quest

[lone axle]

hello spoiler chat i beat janus vor and i want to collapse now

kissing the ground the laetum walks on

[livid glen]

Completely fair honestly.

[hearty pendant]

especially given the new war is such a big quest
changing one word for a new big end-of-arc quest wouldn't be a great idea

[real niche]

"Void War" sounds like a descriptor for a war that would actually be worth talking about

[pliant saffron]

so i wanna ask

this look like a possible gyre prime?

[steep totem]

Doubt it
Doesn't have the ridiculously slim waist like Gyre

It might be Ember Prime, but I'd need to double check that

[pliant saffron]

ive looked at the rest of the chest plate styles for the other female frames and they dont go like that except garuda and gara get close

[pliant saffron]

she was in part 1 or 2

[opaque dove]

And the head shape is interesting

[pliant saffron]

yea its hard to get any good lines off the head to match though

[opaque dove]

It’s more than likely gyre, and the face of it some what matches with Gyre’s

[pliant saffron]

with thigh.... so maybe something else....?

damn volt helmet

more lower body

[opaque dove]

Really just an interesting frame

[pliant saffron]

for sure

[opaque dove]

Do we even know for sure why these frames are here, this drear expanse?

[pliant saffron]

the first war with the sentients i do believe

[steep totem]

Casualties of the Old War

[rain otter]

You don't have to do it solo.

@steep totem @pliant saffron @opaque dove people are assuming it has to do with the mag prime codex.

[rain otter]

Well not the first attack but during the old war.

[balmy storm]

By this point it def relates to the sentients and the zariman mission to tau
So
Tau

If nothing else we may get a step toward Tau

[real niche]

Narmer :)

[steep totem]

Whether it's Tau or not is unconfirmed
What is almost certain is that they died in the Old War

[rain otter]

I agree.

[balmy storm]

Narmer would be nice but the teasers are generally relating more to the sentients and the zariman as it features quotes from both

[rain otter]

Yeah.

[steep totem]

Highly likely it's Tau tho

[rain otter]

Also we do see a "blue light"

[balmy storm]

Like we have zero Erra quotes afaik

[balmy storm]

Even though Tau Ceti has a yellow star…

[rain otter]

Irl?

[balmy storm]

Unless the Sentients modified their star or it’s just blue in warframe

[balmy storm]

Yes

[rain otter]

Cuz I'll be honest irl cosmology isn't my concern tbh

[balmy storm]

It’s more so an oddity than anything

[pliant saffron]

Considering we are having a sun relay, it's highly likely that they atleast did something to their sun

[real niche]

Doubt it's gonna be Tau Ceti verbatim

[balmy storm]

Why?

We have no info on anyone doing anything to the sun other than Praghasa’s corpse eating it

For a star to be blue it would be hotter too
So
Did the sentients make their sun hotter?

It’s not impossible ig we just have no precedent for altering a star
They aren’t like planets :p

[pliant saffron]

Praghasa in the tau system?

[balmy storm]

Praghasa is in the origin system

[pliant saffron]

Mk

[balmy storm]

New war
She munched on the sun

She’s not a star alterer she’s the devourer

[pliant saffron]

Siphoning a star should shrink it, causing it to spin faster and burn hotter no?

[balmy storm]

Maybe?

Again, that is assuming the sentients siphoned their star

[real niche]

Pretty sure itd burn colder since less material

[balmy storm]

All we know for sure is they terraformed tau’s planets

[stray oriole]

bruh how do you even siphon a star

[balmy storm]

Yeah, so
Not blue

[rain otter]

Maybe. We have a Sun Relay

[stray oriole]

like you suck it ?

[balmy storm]

Harvest it

[rain otter]

I mean Pargasa was gonna like Asorb all the energy of the sun.

Our sun.

[balmy storm]

Yeah
Then use that energy to make a void portal to Tau
Which even if they did siphon a star it wouldn’t turn blue

Blue stars are hotter than yellow stars :p

[stray oriole]

so energy siphoning a star would make it blue ? Doesn't make sense

[balmy storm]

No, it wouldn’t.

[fading current]

“I herald her beginning, I herald your end, I herald…PRAGHASA”
Seeing devourer made me think of galactus. Lmao

[stray oriole]

but phragasa sure is capable of eating much things

[balmy storm]

She is the devourer

But devouring a star wouldn’t make it blue necessarily

[stray oriole]

how did hunhow make babies with that

[balmy storm]

Unless the process is like
Aging the star ig

[rain otter]

I dont think The sentients would destory their won star.

[balmy storm]

Cause our sun will eventually turn into a red giant and then shrink to a white dwarf iirc
But
That’s it aging and losing energy, so no

[rain otter]

Like they attack the orokin so their system stays

[balmy storm]

Yeah

[rain otter]

Peaceful and serine and uneffected by the orokin empire.

[balmy storm]

If anything I could see them somehow giving their star more energy, making it blue so it burns hotter and longer

But then the issue is. How

[stray oriole]

maybe just giving it more helium and hydrogen directly in the core, but it's just ridiculously hard to do

[balmy storm]

And just not really worth it

[balmy storm]

No

[pliant saffron]

Maybe the did something like a Dyson sphere but to focus the solar energy back into the sun....?

[balmy storm]

Not enough resources

[pliant saffron]

Used up the planets

?

[balmy storm]

We don’t even have enough resources in our own system to make a dyson sphere IF you used all the planets

[stray oriole]

if there's any explanation for why is Tau Ceti blue, I guess there isn't, because DE just wants to introduce a blue star that's called Tau

[balmy storm]

Let alone would the sentients in Tau
Who also terraformed it so they could have a home

[soft pumice]

Wait a moment.... Ordis was dropping volatile motes from jade into the sun.... ORDIS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!

[balmy storm]

Could just be a fictional star and not ceti

[opaque dove]

I’m sure it’ll be fine

[stray oriole]

ye but the name Tau has to be inspired imo

[balmy storm]

Oh it def is

[stray oriole]

or maybe the blue thing in the videos is just not the star who knows

[balmy storm]

It could also just not be tau ceti but a different star entirely by a different name
Since things in the wf universe are similar but have different names

[thick jolt]

Inspiration does not mean they have to follow it to the letter i'd say

[balmy storm]

Though the planets and moons are mostly all the same?
Minus Lua but that’s named after a god

[robust swallow]

the great archwheel

[opaque dove]

What a glitch

[balmy storm]

The whole blue star issue is more with the mag prime codex tbh since it calls Tau’s star blue

[thick jolt]

Rebb taking notes for future vehicle

[balmy storm]

Real

[stray oriole]

ye

[stray oriole]

unironically looks cool

the shape makes 0 sense tho

[opaque dove]

I’m genuinely curious what new fancy armaments and other stuff we’ll see in yay

[stray oriole]

if it's gonna be about Tau, I guess we'll see more sentient weapons

there aren't that many in the game anyway

[opaque dove]

POV me when sentient Shotguns show up:

[stray oriole]

can't wait for my summulyst-gun that shoots choralysts

[opaque dove]

Need a weapon derived from brachiolysts or ortholysts

[steep totem]

Newest video had an unobstructed view of upper body

[hearty pendant]

my best guess for that body is regular garuda? but its missing facial features.. seemingly entirely
and all the other bodies are prime, so no reason this one wouldn't be

[pliant saffron]

Garudas chest piece is on the side facing the camera but it's only the one side and it goes over the breast

[hearty pendant]

yeah, that's the other issue

is it just another grineer body?
this bit on the thigh looks grineer-ish

[pliant saffron]

True but the head isn't as round as a heavy gunner and the sniper..... maybe but I'd think she would be too small

[brisk beacon]

this might be weird but I had a dream that my drifter lost his void powers in a big ceremony in duviri completely out of context and all of my warframes were there sitting in a circle and he had to walk everywhere very slowly like a normal guy solving math problems

[balmy badger]

I legitimately thought Tau Ceti was blue because of Warframe
As someone who's into sci-fi more than other genre's, I sure don't know much about our IRL solar system.

[zenith jacinth]

Star could've turned blue by the time the game takes place

[viral kettle]

Finally got the Umbra Excalibur

And it's cool that it can fight by itself when you're outside the warframe

Also is Lotus an orokin?

[zenith jacinth]

Lotus is a sentient

[viral kettle]

I see

so thats why she looked like that at the end of the sacrifice

I took it that she got turned into a machine

[zenith jacinth]

Yes, although you learn that fact way earlier

During natah

[viral kettle]

Wasn't paying attention then :/

[zenith jacinth]

Natah is her original name btw

[viral kettle]

That was the mission with her father?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[viral kettle]

where we had to keep him from escaping

[zenith jacinth]

Natah, queen of mimics, daughter of hunhow

[viral kettle]

So is Hunhow also a sentient?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[hearty pendant]

yes

[viral kettle]

idk how I missed all that..

[zenith jacinth]

Hunhow is kinda the sentient for most of the game

[viral kettle]

Also I may be forgetting why, but why does almost everyone in the universe hate the Orokin?

[hearty pendant]

there's,, a list

[zenith jacinth]

Because the orokin are pricks

[viral kettle]

I see

Well I mean they did drop that mutation bomb thing on Deimos

[zenith jacinth]

That was a necessary move to protect the heart

[viral kettle]

What exactly is the heart?

[zenith jacinth]

Power source of pretty much everything

[viral kettle]

And the reason why it was important to us at the time of the Deimos main mission was because the Warframes are a part of the infection right?

[zenith jacinth]

Because they're powered by it

[viral kettle]

yeah

[zenith jacinth]

The heart

Not the infestation

[viral kettle]

So the heart is just a massive power source for everything?

[zenith jacinth]

Everything void-powered, yes

[viral kettle]

I see

Welp that answers most of my questions

[zenith jacinth]

And the orokin were too shortsighted to make a backup generator

[woven sapphire]

so if tau is apparently a toxic wasteland

what are we even going to do there

[cosmic prawn]

The toxic part was what the Sentiments feared the Orokin would turn Tau into, 'clay they wished to rule and sculpt into a new and toxic paradise.'

[rain otter]

well they where the worst. it's why the tenno killed them all.

[viral kettle]

Oh...

I didn't know that..

[rain otter]

wait

did you not read the night of naga drums? @viral kettle

it's why stalker is mad

from stalkers Codex

[viral kettle]

I don't really touch the codex

[rain otter]

"Some have walked these desolate worlds while you have slept. Some like me. I remember what you did. I remember the day.
The Tenno appeared at the Terminus, gleaming and victorious. Our cold and gold Emperors, breathless, bathed you in savior's silk. Then came the sound. Across all our worlds, all at once, the ceremonial Naga drums. A royal salute to the honored Tenno. Ten solemn beats to declare the suffering was over. I watched from a distance, with the rest of the low Guardians. With each beat terror began to crush my throat. The Tenno were not stoic and silent. They were waiting. They were poised. I tried to call out but only a strangled whisper escaped.

When the ninth beat rang a torrent of blood filled the stadium, loosed by Tenno blades. The drums, the Empire, fell silent forever.

Now I hunt, dividing your numbers. Watching from that dark place, cataloging your sins, I am the ghost of retribution. You may forget but you are not innocent." @viral kettle

[viral kettle]

And I don't remember much from the quest about the drums

Also who exactly is stalker?

[rain otter]

GOOD QUESTION.

smile.

(he has a quest later if you want.)

[viral kettle]

Im gonna take a guess and say that they're a tenno lapdog for the Orokin

[rain otter]

not a tenno.

if he was he would know we where people

and not just warframes. CUz in the second dream he is like very confused as to why the tenno keep coming back

and why Hunhow wants his help/wants to help him.

[viral kettle]

Was is the tenno themselves who attacked the orokin or were they using the warframes?

[rain otter]

the warframes.

[viral kettle]

Aight

[rain otter]

the tenno can't attack themsevles

till after second dream or war within.

also all warframes like their originals all used to be people

[viral kettle]

Yeah

[rain otter]

you probably figured that out but yeah.

oh @viral kettle diemos is infested cuz a infested bio bomb was set off by 2 old war ear scienctists to keep the sentients from destorying the void heart.

[viral kettle]

Also the whole deal about the Warframes in the Sacrifice was that they were mentally unwell and so the orokins used the tenno to control them?

[rain otter]

also the naga drums was a part of the senteint/ballas plan to kill all the orokin.

just Lotus didn't kill us.

[rain otter]

well that's the background lore. Umbra was one of the last warframes to be made.

[viral kettle]

What made Umbra so special that he still has a concious?

[rain otter]

like the Orokin ipad you find in the sacrifice is what Umbra (human) found cuz it's what Ballas

was giving to hunhow. cuz hunhow didn't know the tenno existed.

so Umbra is trying to expose ballas for working with hunhow telling me warframes are piloted by tenno. Then ballas finds out that Umbra is doing that so he turns him into a warframe and then he on purpose leaves umbra with 1 burning memory of being made to kill his son and then was locked in lua UNTIL WE TAKE LUA OUT OF THE VOID. @viral kettle

[viral kettle]

ah I remember that now

Also in the Chimera Prologue wth happened to Ballas

[rain otter]

like umbra was in a MOON PRISON

[viral kettle]

He had another pair of legs

[rain otter]

for 1000 years JUST AWAKE

he doesn't get out UNTIL WE TAKE OUT THE MOON OUT OF THE VOID. like gets out after you do that quest. and he goes to the remains of his house.

[rain otter]

oh he was Amalgumized.

[viral kettle]

?

[rain otter]

he had sentients bits graffed on to him

[viral kettle]

Was it Lotus who did that to him?

[nova harness]

No

[rain otter]

yes.

well

yesn't.

but i was gonna say before Natah is the mimic queen that's why she can look like a human.

and why you only see the mimic senteints in the sacrifice foward cuz they are her fragments.

but yeah the Naga drums was at the end of the old war.

[viral kettle]

From the ending of the Sacrifice, how has it been until the Chimera prologue?

[rain otter]

idk

days weeks.

not too long.

Do the ropa fight and then you can do the new war.

[viral kettle]

The way Ballas was talking made it seem like he had been stuck there for ages

[rain otter]

he's a big ole liar

that lies

ballas is a orokin leader that betrayed even the orokin

cuz he got his own lover killed.

it's always someone elses Fault.

never his fault.

[viral kettle]

Is the guy who says "Hey kiddo" like an alter ego of me or something?

[rain otter]

oh you mean wally?

[viral kettle]

that's their name?

[rain otter]

man in the wall. he's uhh something.

man in the wall indifference

[viral kettle]

ah

[rain otter]

some secret 3rd thing.

Our tiny autistic son held down wally for like 1000 years

(rell)

wait do you have RJ?

[viral kettle]

Rell is the religious figure of the red veil right?

[rain otter]

you might not have a RJ.

[rain otter]

yes he was also a tenno.

that was cast out.

[viral kettle]

Did he fuse with his warframe or something?

[rain otter]

well

he wasn't in the second dream so

you can imagine what happened to his body

over 1000 years.

[viral kettle]

sheesh

Also his warframe is the one with the chains move right?

[rain otter]

his warframe was chained down so he could basiclly hold wally down

also yes it's harrow.

[viral kettle]

I remember seeing that move when I began playing

It was pretty op

[rain otter]

do you have RJ?

[viral kettle]

Gotta build harrow

[rain otter]

have you seen a RJ?

[viral kettle]

RJ?

[rain otter]

rail jack.

[viral kettle]

yeah

[rain otter]

you have one?

[viral kettle]

yeah

[rain otter]

you can go touch the finger drive.

wait have you done the quest to get the like key for it

[viral kettle]

I think so?

Which quest was it?

[rain otter]

Just a extra quest

[viral kettle]

Wait that was a part of the quest the build the jack right?

[rain otter]

when you try to launch your RJ

[viral kettle]

Yeah then

[rain otter]

its right after if you go into your RJ

[viral kettle]

I remember seeing the finger in there and was confused

[rain otter]

but the RJ is so feared because

it is the only currently active ship that can hyper space jump

on it's own at will. all other ships have to use a solar rail.

[viral kettle]

Im guessing its because of the finger?

[rain otter]

but yeah that finger or well it is a copy of wallys finger.

wait you have done diemos right do you know who Albretch is?

[viral kettle]

nope

[rain otter]

it's mothers Dad. not grandmas husband.

[hearty pendant]

i think they just got through the sacrifice

[rain otter]

welll diemos

you could do it any time to get the albretch lore

[viral kettle]

alright

[rain otter]

here is a FAMILY TREE

there might be a small spoiler on this don't ask about it.

[viral kettle]

Did the family never have names or did they only start calling themselves by their actual names when we increase their standing?

[rain otter]

they had old names just lost them

when you level up the family they name each other out of love.

[viral kettle]

Just reminded me that I still need to rank up the family

[rain otter]

oh do you want the like

Uhhhh Albretch idk what to call it

Albretch Logs? you get from ranking up.

they are kinda hidden

they are in the robo-loid room.

[viral kettle]

sure why not

[rain otter]

the best way to rank up the family is just do like the highest bounty that isn't SP and just do that over and over and turn in the Mother tokens to G-ma for standing. it's like 17k standing a pop.

[rain otter]

this came out with diemos and this was the first we ever heard of ablretch. https://youtu.be/Es8uOniZzZI?si=iq4HHEdokggZNpuh

[viral kettle]

Is this the lore of the game basically?

[rain otter]

no?

watch it you'll see.

[viral kettle]

alr

[hearty pendant]

-# best way to get mother tokens is farming aya. you won't get any aya but you will get hundreds of tokens

[rain otter]

THAT IS WHAT I SAID Just in a different way lmao.

also you'll get aya

it's one of the best ways to farm aya and amber stars actually

[hearty pendant]

yeah
i'm just complaing about aya lmao

[lime estuary]

They forgor their name, Grandmother gave her name to a Warframe.

[viral kettle]

Yareli?

[nova harness]

Dagath

Yareli is almost completely unrelated to Deimos

[viral kettle]

Why was grandmother so interested in the comic?

[hearty pendant]

i think she was more interested in keeping the ventkids in their spot than the comic itself
but i may not be remembering correctly

[viral kettle]

So basically Ablretch was experimenting with something, im guessing the void?, and ended up encountering the man in the wall