spoiler-chat

[opaque dove]

Anyway, I’m getting that chair

[steep totem]

Oh, that's freaky

[opaque dove]

Wasn’t expecting to see him. But caught him

[proper axle]

A friend was watching me play the Flare stage defense mission. They thought it was funny how often The Screamer was deployed, and we joked about how Viktor just deploy The Screamer at every inconvenience.

"I asked for almond milk latte... this is 2%... deploy the Screamer"

[wild wind]

[opaque dove]

I mean, we are the inconvenience to Viktor. We put a damper on his plans constantly, but it could be every minor inconvenience like that…

[gray remnant]

It's just like him deploying constant waves of Stotmfall every time we find a scaldra cashe.

"I specifically asked for my Peanut butter and Jelly sandwich to have no crust. Stormfall! Give our lady Lua something to weap over tonight."

[undone lodge]

“I told you to get me the weather forecast by 2:30… It is now 2:30:30!”

[opaque dove]

“This sandwich is tuna, i asked for a patty melt, SEND IN STORMFALL, NOW!!”

[steep totem]

"I have explained it to you time and time again... the bookshelf is organized alphabetically by author! STORMFALL! DESCEND!"

[eternal flume]

STORMFALL UNITS!! MY TUMMY HURTS!! YOU BETTER NOT DISAPPOINT ME!!!

[lone axle]

"[Actor] didn't perform his best in this one specific episode of my favorite show... Send in the Screamer."

[eager vine]

I love destroying the screamer seconds after he spawns. Audio cuts off mid scream xD

[bronze glen]

STORMFALL UNITS!

YOU SEE THAT BIOMECHANICAL MARVEL THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A DEMIGOD, MOVING AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT, EXTRACTING KINETIC ENERGY FROM THE ATMOSPHERE AND SLAUGHTERING ALL YOUR ALLIES?

GO AND KILL THEM

[eternal flume]

YOU BETTER NOT DISAPPOINT ME

tf you expect them to do

STORMFALL UNITS! THAT DUDE IS CHEWING TOO LOUDLY!! KILL HIM

[bronze glen]

Bro wants them to fight literal SCPs

All from the Keter Class

[half light]

nah, straight up amida disruption class

[wraith sigil]

This isn’t your city, we’re here to evict you.

[wild wind]

I mean it's worth remembering, your 1999 arsenal is duplicates made with 1999 materials

So technically Scaldra is closer to parity with you than the Grineer and Corpus

[prime lantern]

Ehhh most warframes would be ecluid

The safe ecuild keter thaumal system was never a determination of lethality

Just how hard it is to keep in a box

[half light]

even the weakest warframe (in terms of offensive capabilities) for the sake of argument let's say loki, even him would be hard to keep in a box

[echo basalt]

just gotta keep loki in a window less cube

[half light]

ok maybe he's the one euclid

[kind swallow]

Now that I did The Hex, what am I supposed to do there? Can I just do bounties, or are there specific ones I should do to raise reputation with specific characters or does it not matter?

[prime lantern]

Yea ecuild he needs a special box or you know just a nullifier

[hearty pendant]

you need to become friends with all of them in order to retry new year's eve

[prime lantern]

I believe you can gain chemistry by doing the bounties with the people's face on them

Don't qoute me tho

[prime lantern]

Like if I had to just spitball the hardest to contain warframe would probably be likeee uhhh limbo

Granted I dont think there's a whole lot a warframe could do to escape a box lined with reality anchors

[hearty pendant]

just need one that starts messing with reality, then

[prime lantern]

Thats kinda what the reality anchors are for they

Anchor reality

[zenith jacinth]

Grendel can just physics his way into breaking through any material

[half light]

but what warframes do have nothing to do with reality bending, not most at least

[eternal flume]

Also they’re probably never gonna capture gauss

[nova harness]

A Warframe existing bends reality anyway

[half light]

how ?

they are flesh inside metal

oh wait

their source of power may be reality bending

[nova harness]

They're also Void-powered

[half light]

that's what i mean, the heart of deimos

nah, they are probably safe then. as long as you manage to catch them then lock them in a place with SRA's nearby

[wicked iron]

Huh? It fully syncs your arsenal with the present's as you do the quest. Time shenanigans to use the same stuff, not creating duplicates.

That was my understanding, anyway.

[tidal pumice]

she didn't have to say that

I hear ballas lines I have winter soldier moments

[lone axle]

help

[steep totem]

Did- did the Sister use your Operator's head?
Or did you make a bald protoframe?

[lone axle]

there's only one fire progenitor protoframe iirc and that's flare
flare is definitely not bald

i didnt even get the ephemera though thats what im most upset about

[zenith jacinth]

?

[lone axle]

just noticed this btw
why is this chair an ayatan????

might be a bug or might be intentional considering how Normal. this chair is

[nova harness]

With the recent updates many things have been put where they don't belong such as Coda going into Kuva lich tab and now this

[wicked iron]

What was that in response to? 😮

[wicked iron]

Glorious.

[tidal pumice]

this is just her talking about leaving if I remember right

[wicked iron]

Ahhh, interesting.

[warm anvil]

@molten quest in the new war if you havent completed duviri yet, it auto customizes your character to look like an aged up version of your operator, also duviri has constant references to the zariman and even the moment that ballas stabbed you, playing it before the new war is just confusing and doesnt really make any sense for the player. especially newer ones who havent been reading up on codex entries.

[molten quest]

Thing about duviri post new war is when you get thrown into the portal in new war after you get killed, if you haven't done duviri at that point the operator being the same person as the drifter comes out of absolutely nowhere since you haven't even seen the drifter yet, and to me that would just feel like the biggest copout deus ex machina

[warm anvil]

new war was released before duviri btw

[molten quest]

I don't care about that

That does not matter in the slightest to me lmao

[warm anvil]

u should take that into consideration when it comes to how people played and experienced it

[molten quest]

Well we're talking about the new player experience, so no, i shouldn't xD

People aren't going to play the game as it was when the different parts released lmao

[quiet current]

and if you do duviri before new war everything happening during it related to drifter doesnt feel right
since all the buildup during it is meaningless if you already know everything

[warm anvil]

it literally ruins multiple big reveals. new war is such a good quest BECAUSE of its mystery

[quiet current]

^

[thick jolt]

"When you get killed".....in the cutscene that specifically calls out not being able to kill the tenno.....

[warm anvil]

if you know exactly what is happening from the start then it takes the fun and immersion out of it in my opinion

[molten quest]

I at least did VERY MUCH not know exactly what was going on during new war lmao

[warm anvil]

thankfully I played duviri when I was too much of a noob to remember any of it so I wasnt spoiled at all

[quiet current]

best momenst would be it playing right after we get chugged into the hole or as flashback during op drift meetup

[molten quest]

And i did duviri well before new war

[warm anvil]

so the blatant refernces to zariman and ballas stabbing you were lost becuase you forgot about it. which is why I think it would be better if someone played it after new war

[quiet current]

since those 2 points are quite open

throwing durivi in either of em woudl fit

[molten quest]

No the blatant references to zariman were not lost

Ballas stabbing yes, i don't remember those references in duviri

[warm anvil]

its at the very start of it

[quiet current]

the intro

[warm anvil]

theres a whole voice line and you can see the paracesis

[quiet current]

we hear the balls if i remember right and see the sword

literally shanking us in the back

then comes the lotus hand meteor

[warm anvil]

the exact same animation as when our operator got stabbed

[nova harness]

With the exact same words

[molten quest]

Oh yeah true

[warm anvil]

ive seen someone play duviri RIGHT before new war, and someone who played it right AFTER new war. the experience is much better after

[molten quest]

But like that does not spoil anything breh

[quiet current]

and all those things make right after being chugged into the hole good moment to start duviri

since we have coorelating moments close to each other

small one gets thrown into hole after stab

[warm anvil]

also if you play duviri after new war you get to skip the whole character creation part so the intro is seamless as well

[quiet current]

big one is about to be executed and gets shanked same way

that somehow saving from the execution

[molten quest]

Ok but i think you're vastly overestimating how many people are going to remember that one random floating paracesis in the duviri intro xd

[warm anvil]

thats exactly my point

the detail is lost completely

[molten quest]

Ok but if you do duviri post new war it's going to feel like the biggest most insane copout to character death in history

[quiet current]

those that look for details will know

[molten quest]

"Oh no we didn't die we time traveled and now there's two of us"

[quiet current]

but most wont

[warm anvil]

its not time travel

[quiet current]

and it works same way pre

oh so there was 2 of us

[molten quest]

It doesn't because at least you have clues that there could be another one of you

[quiet current]

jumping in nw in exact same fit doesnt help

[quiet current]

not rly

[molten quest]

Like there's a reason foreshadowing is a thing in media

[quiet current]

we have buildup to it in nw

[molten quest]

Right

Like what lmao

[quiet current]

which gets wasted if duviri is done before

bc big reveal is already gone

[molten quest]

Big reveal is IMO when drifter comes into our reality

[quiet current]

we have teshin we have the god damn tablets

which introduce concept of eternalism

[molten quest]

No in new war what is the buildup

[quiet current]

long before its introduced in nw quest

[molten quest]

Teshin doesnt do anything in new war to build it up afaik?

[quiet current]

in duviri does

gives enough clues

[molten quest]

Yeah ofc but if you move duviri after then it wont be there????

[quiet current]

that there can be 2

[molten quest]

I'm asking what buildup does new war have to that reveal

If duviri is done after

[warm anvil]

the whole point is that in new war theres a character introduces and it explains what is happening along the way

[quiet current]

not much just fill out holes of what happened to some in new war

[nova harness]

Duviri explains things from New War

[quiet current]

like teshin having some narmer bits that were sucked into the hole

including the god damn veil

[molten quest]

Yeah and that's why if you do it during new war right after you get stabbed, it's going to feel like the biggest most insane copout to character death

Because at that point it'll feel like "oh you got stabbed and killed? Oh nevermind breh"

[warm anvil]

I havent ever heard that complaint from the many many many people ive watched play who didnt play duviri before new war

[molten quest]

That's like the best possible way to completely kill the stakes in the story lmao

[quiet current]

nope
we already survived worse
its very obvious we gonna survive stab one way or another

[molten quest]

What worse stuff did the operator survive

[quiet current]

but if duviri isnt done before we dont rly know if we grew up or its 2nd one

[nova harness]

Did you even listen to the narration while getting stabbed?

[quiet current]

bc there is nothing rly hinting at it

[quiet current]

technically quite endless amount of deaths

[molten quest]

I did, but i thought it was basically saying ballas can't kill us normally but can wound us fatally and then just throw us into the void to die

[quiet current]

we cant get killed

[molten quest]

Breh you know what i mean

[quiet current]

we can get send back

but that didnt work out

[nova harness]

We can't get killed by just getting stabbed once

[quiet current]

not 1st time balls overestimated own plans

[molten quest]

Like the issue i have here with this argument atm is that you're all just completely refusing to even acknowledge that there are issues with putting duviri post new war lmao

[quiet current]

sentients, infested, warframes to name few that backfired

[warm anvil]

ive watched MULTIPLE people play it post new war

[quiet current]

and just as many issues come pre

[nova harness]

The Tenno's personal timeline has been disrupted. Knowing he cannot kill the Tenno, Ballas has opted to imprison them within their own history. The Tenno will be unable to escape this loop without the paradoxical intervention of an outside force.

Continuing to monitor.

[quiet current]

diff is that doing post breaks less stuff than pre

[warm anvil]

it would be no differenet than the fans who played the quests in order of release

[quiet current]

best spot would be during

[molten quest]

I think it'd be a much bigger issue to the story to just introduce the drifter out of absolutely nowhere during new war lmao

[molten quest]

This i can somewhat agree with

[warm anvil]

do you also have a problem with the hex

[molten quest]

Wdym?

[warm anvil]

bc that comes out of nowhere during the whispers in the walls quest

[molten quest]

No?

[quiet current]

and throwing smaller quest before big one with entirely diff controls and characters throwing new war related lines isnt

[molten quest]

90s tech is foreshadowed an absolute TON in like 4 different quests before that

[quiet current]

with 0 build up to said quest btw

[molten quest]

And it's so out of place with the rest of the universe that it's fairly obvious

[quiet current]

and 0 context

[molten quest]

I dont understand what you're saying here, sorry lol

[warm anvil]

90's tech before whispers in the walls?

[nova harness]

Tbh it was just the thing from Tennocon

[quiet current]

throwing duviri before new war, with no ingame buildup or context to duviri
with former having very obvious stuff related to what happens in latter

isnt absolutely out of nowhere

[molten quest]

That you don't know happens after until after you're already done with new war

[quiet current]

i think not

[quiet current]

nono we do know right during the nw

before any reveals

[molten quest]

The stabbing?

[velvet pebble]

yo why rusalka appears in the next update's trailer image

[quiet current]

like drifter being in origin system, teshin getting veiled

[warm anvil]

wally is still using her body as a vessel and its invading duviri

[quiet current]

stabbing is small one

[nova harness]

Bc Wally is getting revenge

[quiet current]

compared to rest that gets buildups thrown out

same with lotus hand

not much but its obvious enough

[velvet pebble]

i thought Rusalka's body got discarded in the void huh

[molten quest]

I think drifter being in the origin system is exactly why duviri should be before new war, because then duviri acts as foreshadowing to the drifter and the operator being the same person, so it doesn't come out of nowhere and doesn't feel like an insane deus ex machina

[quiet current]

we took 1999 from wally

so femwally is taking away duviri

[velvet pebble]

then that means we can get people frmo 1999 to duviri ?

[quiet current]

its exactly why it shouldnt be bc it breaks any foreshadowing for drifter in nw

[molten quest]

I mean not necessarily, wally can probably just kinda do what they want

[molten quest]

What foreshadowing is there for drifter in nw?

[quiet current]

by the time duviri ends we know its just diff operator

[molten quest]

I tried to ask this already once xd

[quiet current]

just like teshin isnt same one

[quiet current]

ffs its like explaining to mehi why lvl cap aint relevant

[molten quest]

Sorry

[quiet current]

im running out of peas to throw

[nova harness]

He is though

[quiet current]

and time 8mins till work

[warm anvil]

I like there actually being a surprise and understanding things as I progress and they are explained. I like that the game reveals things over time and doesnt just explain things to you right away

[velvet pebble]

diff op ? you mean the drifter ?

[molten quest]

Ok but like during new war, before you play as the drifter, is there literally any foreshadowing for them?

[warm anvil]

this entire game is, keep progressing and you will learn more and more about your own history

[quiet current]

not rly
both of em have diff experiences and teshin in duviri is affected by timeresets

[velvet pebble]

nope, if you don't take in account the trailer

[warm anvil]

before new war was there any foreshadowing of narmer

[quiet current]

diff as in eternalism

[molten quest]

Yeah so idk what foreshadowing mam problem is talking about xd

[nova harness]

In all the ages of Thrax's reign, only two strangers have ever been known to come to Duviri.

One was the monk Teshin, who fell from the sky into the lake on the island we now call Hermit's Landing. Seemingly lifeless, he was dragged ashore by Mathila who nursed his return to health. I have never known a constitution to match his; yet unlike us, he has… deteriorated… with the passing of time

[molten quest]

No, but that's also very different

[velvet pebble]

uuuuh honestly i don't believe the peeps in DE thought THAT far from the start, considering the time difference in between new war and the sacrifice for example

[molten quest]

Narmer is just a cult that Ballas started, it's not like you expected ballas to just show up with zero support after winning the war lmao

Like it makes sense that narmer exists considering they lost the war

[velvet pebble]

the other was entrati right ?

[warm anvil]

I have watched so many different people play new war when it was released and I havent heard a single one complain about "lack of explanations and foreshadowing" this entire game is literally "learn more story as you go"

[velvet pebble]

i gotta love how the tenno's own chat options in the KIM adds to this lore

[molten quest]

I mean IMO one of the main things that made new war considerably worse for me was the random mothership trying to feed on the sun, it felt like such an unnecessary expansion of the stakes

[nova harness]

I've heard many say the lore isn't explained well but at the same time they often skip cutscenes

[molten quest]

And it came out of nowhere in what it was able to do, like sure it was mentioned like once by name before, but it being able to eat the sun or do anything like that wasn't mentioned at all

[warm anvil]

so its not enough stakes and now its too much

[molten quest]

????

Where did i say it's not enough stakes?

[warm anvil]

u said operator death was a cop out and lowered the stakes a ton didnt you?

[velvet pebble]

well tbh it made sense and i was wondering myself why something like that waasn't happening already considering how noisy and hazardous the corpus projets already were

[molten quest]

Ok so this is a different type of stakes removal though

Like, that's removing the stakes because it feels like no matter what happens in the story, there's no consequences for any of it

Because you just died and then came back from nowhere

[warm anvil]

like the sun getting destroyed

or narmer taking over every planet and living being

[molten quest]

It's like if the sun was destroyed and then the story went like "oh nevermind, lets not do that"

[warm anvil]

or lotus's death

[molten quest]

The sun wasnt destroyed, and the lotus didn't die, but narmer did take over everything lol

[nova harness]

Or Ballas cutting a hand off leading to his defeat

[warm anvil]

i was listing the stakes that were presented to us during the quest

[molten quest]

Oh yeah thats why im saying its IMO unnecessary lmao

[warm anvil]

so too many stakes

[molten quest]

No, not rly, just it came out of nowhere

[nova harness]

What do you want stakes or no stakes

[molten quest]

Like i'm fine with it if it gets introduced properly like a proper threat that they need to do something about

[warm anvil]

like the sun

getting destroyed

😭

[molten quest]

???????????????????

Do you understand at all what i'm saying

[warm anvil]

i dont understand how its not a proper threat lol

[molten quest]

Oh it is a proper threat, it just came out of nowhere in the story

[nova harness]

The Sun getting destroyed was introduced properly and an actual stake

[molten quest]

I'm not saying it isn't a proper threat, but it felt unnecessary, and it came out of absolutely nowhere

[molten quest]

Remind me again how was it introduced

Was it not lotus saying "It cannot be allowed to feed on the sun" while it was already doing so

[nova harness]

Yes that's literally all you need

[molten quest]

Like come on that is not how you introduce a threat of that level in a story

[warm anvil]

literally what more do you want

sort of catches you up to date

[molten quest]

Idk maybe A PRIOR MENTION that the sentients have this massive world ending weapon?????

Do you all like read books or smth xD

[nova harness]

Not everything needs a prior mention

[warm anvil]

this isnt a book tho. stories are told differently through different mediums

[molten quest]

This is like if the first mention of the infinity stones in avengers was during infinity war when thanos snapped their fingers

[nova harness]

Plus Lotus talks about Parghasa and Hunhow in the turkey fight

[warm anvil]

arent there a billion comics for marvel

[molten quest]

Yeah, but also didn't mention anything about the parghasa being able to eat the goddamn sun lmao

Like that would already improve it so much

[warm anvil]

probably because they both already know what it can do

it wouldnt feel natural to just have them explain stuff they already know

[molten quest]

Except if the tenno needed that knowledge

Because they have no idea about it lmao

[warm anvil]

well they werent talking to us 😭

[molten quest]

That's fair i guess, but still it would have been nice to know that lmao

[warm anvil]

yeah you do learn that

[molten quest]

As is, IMO the ship eating the sun comes out of absolutely nowhere

[warm anvil]

during the quest, when its brought up again

[molten quest]

And feels super unnecessary as a result, because like, at no point during the new war quest did the tenno do anything to try to stop the ship from reaching the sun prior to that point

Even though it feels like that should be the absolute #1 priority

Because you know if the ship eats the sun everything dies narmer or not

[nova harness]

Because they couldn't

[real niche]

Weren't we busy being almost dead for most of it?

[nova harness]

Yes

[hearty pendant]

they didn't start trying to eat the sun until we had an archon down, right?

[nova harness]

We had to dodge the radiation

[molten quest]

You get my point though?

[warm anvil]

nope

we cant do anything if we are dead

or if we dont have any powers

[molten quest]

Of how weird it feels to have something like "stop the sun from getting eaten" be such a nonpriority that it doesn't even get mentioned before it's happening

[warm anvil]

bc its not the main priority at the moment

[molten quest]

And lotuses and erras relationship is more important than the SUN GETTING DESTROYED???

[nova harness]

She was mentioned as a Carpenter prior to the quest way before New War released though

[warm anvil]

is praghasa still considered the "mom"?

[nova harness]

Yes

[warm anvil]

new war did go through a whole rewrite

[molten quest]

Like, i get that you love the game but goddamn lmao

[nova harness]

She's still the Mothership

[warm anvil]

that could just mean the normal definition. I dont remember praghasa actually being referred to as mother in any of the post-rewrite new war content

[nova harness]

Erra says mother’s gone referring to Praghasa due to the damage

[warm anvil]

ah right

[molten quest]

Oh another thing that i found somewhat dumb in new war, the way erra was handled at the end lmao

[hearty pendant]

after being told over and over that he was wrong and ballas would use him?

[nova harness]

What’s wrong with Erra seeing the Erra in his ways?

[molten quest]

No, more practical this time

[warm anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-tomatoes-spongebob-meme-gif-16484771711608947508

[real niche]

Nah I also think it's pretty comedic that Erra is like "Yeah this guy is nuts" after taking over the entire solar system then dying after doing one (1) good thing for the Tenno and now being taken over by a parasite.

[molten quest]

They didn't participate in the final encounter because they had to hold up a random beam in the ship while we were getting to the final encounter lmfao

Just felt very dumb

[warm anvil]

i LOVE pazuul, what a weirdo

[real niche]

Like, cool that you figured it out way too late that Ballas is a wacko and now we had to un-break most of it without you anyway

[molten quest]

Like i wish erra had gotten a slightly less lazy way of getting written out of the story

Because goddamn lmao the way they got done atm is just dirty

[real niche]

They can just make some story where we deal with Pazuul later, not like he's permanently out of the question.

[molten quest]

Yeah ik, im just saying during the new war the way they just remove them from the story feels very dumb

[real niche]

It's at least very funny thinking abou it.

[molten quest]

Because if you recall, erra doesnt participate in the final encounter because theyre busy holding up a random beam on the ship from collapsing

[warm anvil]

i think with the teased 3rd orb content (thanks reb) and how thats already associated with narmer, we will get something more with pazuul during tennocon

i pray at least

[molten quest]

And this isnt even like right before the encounter, this is like a bit back from the encounter

[real niche]

Wasn't that for the Necramech that gets shut down like right after?

[molten quest]

Yes its so stupid xD

[real niche]

Yeah but it's really funny

[molten quest]

Sure but like that's the secondary antagonist of the whole goddamn quest lmao

Like come on give him a bit more of an ending

[real niche]

Again, I'd hold out for Pazuul stuff

[molten quest]

Yeah lol

[real niche]

Feels pretty reasonable of an expectation

[molten quest]

Also you know how i know this discord isnt the best place to try to talk about any sort of serious storytelling critique of the games content?

This is the second time i've brought up how dumb erras ending is in the new war, the first time i brought it up here people told me that it's actually very good and that erra was holding back the power of the sun from burning us up

[real niche]

Lol, lmao

[molten quest]

Like come on lmao

[real niche]

You take damage during the dang fight with Ballas just being out of your Warframe iirc from the fight

[molten quest]

I get that you love the game but come on xD

[amber terrace]

I would like to remind the audience that the Incarnons from the Zariman were originally meant as ornamental pieces. What in Void’s name is a heavy scythe’s symbolism? Is it like “oh hey, citizens going to Tau, use this scythe that’s larger than a person to do agriculture???”

[thick jolt]

Except we have "natural incarnons" outside the zariman

[thick jolt]

By this i mean ones that dont depend on adapters before anyone asks

[rain otter]

Some of the weapons where about like "people rebeled with these farm weapons"

So that might be it.

[amber terrace]

Fair, I assumed the heavy scythe was a Zariman origin Incarnon because of its aesthetic

[thick jolt]

Gotta wait for its description i guess

[real niche]

Looks like the Zariman weapons, yeah

[thick jolt]

Oh just had an idea on this
"Hey this is proportional to the harvests we expect"

[azure solar]

maybe it was like a message to them not to be sad or think themselves weak for being farmers-

[azure solar]

@robust ore technically you are only minor till you play the duviri paradox

at least in game

[opaque dove]

Ain’t that the hespar? Or a different heavy scythe?

[rain otter]

Different

New.

[opaque dove]

Interesting

Gives hespar vibes

Also the whole “bigger than a person” scythe thing is for ease of reach to reap crops. It is a scythe.

And most farmers are pretty strong if you think about it

[warm anvil]

well incarnon evolutions are much larger than the base weapon/item

[amber terrace]

That’s the thing, the weapon in the screenshot is the un-evolved version

A scythe that dwarfs a Warframe, meant to be used by human colonists of Tau

[warm anvil]

what does the evolved version look like?

[amber terrace]

We don’t know yet

The incarnon heavy scythe drops 06/25/2025 with the new clan operation/update

[balmy storm]

Really good farming tool

[amber terrace]

All I know is that I hope it’s comparable to my Scindo Prime

[rancid umbra]

cant bring myself to kill packet codas💔

not like oh, its hard to do but like oh, its hard to do

packet is best boy

[thick jolt]

Dont kill then

Convert, make army of packets

[rancid umbra]

This particular sentiment. Adopted to integral accord.

i like ur thought process will do

[jade crypt]

IM GONNA FARM FOR THAT HEAVY SCYTHE

I HOPE THEY MAKE A GOOD NEW STANCE FOR HEAVY SCYTHES BCZ I NEED IT FOR MY YARELI

uh sorry caps

[amber terrace]

All I hope is that the scythe is at least better than the Scindo Prime

Philosophy: I am of the opinion that, most of the time, if a weapon looks and feels cool to use, it doesn’t necessarily need to print red math on your screen

[jade crypt]

whats wrong with scindo prime (i dont even know what that is)

[amber terrace]

Oh no, there’s nothing wrong with the Scindo Prime. I will go so far as to say it’s my favorite melee weapon. That’s why I want the Incarnon Scythe to be better than the Scindo, so I actually have a reason to use it

[jade crypt]

bro

i swear to god if the new heavy scythe isnt good

im gonna crash out

i NEED a big ass weapon for my tiny yareli

heavy scythe is PERFECT for that

also it looks rlly badass so i want it

if its good we gotta team up and find a goated build for it

(idk how to mod properly)

[amber terrace]

I haven’t read the patch notes for Isleweaver, so I’m gonna assume M. Influence is still good

And we don’t know what the Incarnon form is gonna do, so idk how good it would play with M. Influence

[jade crypt]

i hope its goated

[zenith jacinth]

HAHA yeah

Never

Heavy scythes got their one free stance, DE doesn't like to give more than one to cool weapons

[jade crypt]

is there a real reason?

[zenith jacinth]

No

[wild wind]

broadly speaking WF moved away from additional stances like five or six years ago

it was more of a thing when Warframe had a slower pace

[digital vine]

Are there only 3 ways of increasing charisma for the hex? (Chatting, gifts and bounties)

[wild wind]

yes

[jade crypt]

im gonna kms

[digital vine]

I hate Arthur so much then

[jade crypt]

this is terrible

[jade crypt]

hes so hot tho

[digital vine]

Not my type

[jade crypt]

okay fair enough

[digital vine]

I'm going for amir but SOMEBODY doesn't want to be friends

[jade crypt]

why

[digital vine]

So I'm stuck on r3

[hearty pendant]

yea that's arthur for ya

[digital vine]

Today's chat - 0 charisma gained

Gave him a coffee machine. Not enough
Did his bounty. Still not enough

[jade crypt]

hes a little baby

[digital vine]

That's putting it lightly

[jade crypt]

manchild?

i actually dont really know what manchild means lol im not sure of the definition

[digital vine]

I became friends with aoi almost immediately, Lettie took a bit longer but she's also done, Quincy and Eleanor at least gain charisma from chatting and Arthur makes me want to kill Terry during his buggy day spawns

I didn't know I needed to be friendly with everyone so I was only talking with amir

[jade crypt]

aoi is easy to befriend tho

[digital vine]

She was so easy to befriend

Literally done in 2 chats

[jade crypt]

shes so easy to romance too apparently

[jade crypt]

yeah lmao shes ultra friendly

[digital vine]

I had to be careful today not to accidentally start the romance arc

[jade crypt]

lmaooooooo

you can friendzone her down the road tho

so its fine

[digital vine]

Yeah but that's mean

[jade crypt]

she doesnt even take it bad

shes fine w it

[digital vine]

I have feelings for lines of code

[jade crypt]

omg so relatable

me too!!

[digital vine]

Is there a more precise way of checking how friendly I am with someone?

[jade crypt]

check their profile?

like in KIM

[digital vine]

more precise

I'm an old boomer and I refused to do hex standing until last month

[jade crypt]

okay unc lmao sorry well

idk if you can check that more precisely

[digital vine]

Kill me

[jade crypt]

im not a kim expert

alright

[wild wind]

I mean the profile lines tell you where you are

[digital vine]

True but idk how close I am to the next stage

I just guess

[cosmic prawn]

You'd have to go through the Kimulacrum and add up the points manually.
There's no way in game afaik

[digital vine]

I'll do that later then

[rancid umbra]

generated a zeke

i have no issue sliming zekes🙏

harddrive is cool too because he defends packet

so maybe i should just build an army of harddrives and packets

also hot damn the on-lyne songs are fire

party of a lifetime in my orbiter

[gray remnant]

I got that shit on loop in my backroom

[covert tree]

They started to give me a headache

[rancid umbra]

Arthur's burner account💔

[opaque dove]

The great despair is pretty good

[undone lodge]

Do you just wish they’d STOP

[gray remnant]

No. It's the only boy band music I like

[eternal flume]

im so close to reattempting the hex

just gotta get quincy to like me

[rancid umbra]

getting quincy to like you is easy asl

js flirt off rip

[nova harness]

Getting Quincy to dislike you is hard

[eternal flume]

Yeah ik

He wanted me to buy something so I bought him something, and now I’m rlly close to getting him to like me but I can’t buy him anything else now

I literally just bought everyone gifts and then suddenly I’m getting the void rope things

[mighty valley]

wait til reset

[eternal flume]

reset??? im waiting til tmrw

so I can get to liked with quinky and redo the hex ending

[pine pebble]

do we know if Oraxia's scuttlers are duration or health based?

[supple basin]

Do we have any info about the new augments?

[opaque dove]

Citrine’s basically makes beast, Hound and Moa companions walking prismatic gems

[tight pagoda]

Jade's is for her 1, basically every time an enemy is hit, there's a 5% chance a Jade Light Eximus beam will spawn on them for 3 seconds

[plush swan]

There are waaaaay too many Summon abilities that are limited by both duration and health. T_T

Why does Caliban's 3 need a duration?

[idle field]

What answer do I give here? I'm trying to date her but she's so complicated

[tight pagoda]

"And I see someone who's hurting"

[plush swan]

Both are fine

[tight pagoda]

Well either is fine actually, they both go into the same tree

But saying "That's definitely what's going on here" can also branch into a break-up dialogue

[plush swan]

Just don't pick this option:

I'm done with this. And I'm done with you. [Break up.]

[idle field]

Omg it still says close lol how Ling does this take to make her state say loving

She feels like the hardest to be with

[tight pagoda]

She is

And that's why she's worth it

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe1999-lettie-warframe-lettie-good-night-gif-184044575437122665

[idle field]

When I was with eleanor she seems so loving and caring and I figure leticia would be to since she makes herself seem so cold all the time figure she has a hidden romantic side to and loving

But damn she's been close for a few days now

Dark souls bosses are less frustrating lol

@tight pagoda her status just changed to bestfriend

Is it supposed to be bestfriend or loving? And it says I still have the option to breakup if I want to

[jade crypt]

its best friend then loving iirc

then shell move in the backrooms

[idle field]

Ty

[half light]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe1999-warframe-eleanor-good-night-eleanor-nightingale-gif-13388707470561678675

[eternal flume]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe-amir-amir-tenno-amir-warframe-gif-2955373086370079368

god I love amir

im only rank 3 with the hex so I cant date him yet but

[half light]

the catboy headset

is all

[eternal flume]

when I can I will, everything abt him is so cute

[zenith jacinth]

She's a masochist.

[half light]

sadomasochist*

difference is she likes dealing and taking

[dense ice]

everyone turns into a freak when they served in war

[tight pagoda]

Warfreak

[half light]

freakframe

im curious though, how'd drifter make her feel pain

unless it was some form of transference induced pain, though idk if that'd feel good

[young lake]

oh god this is hilarious

[rain otter]

@zenith jacinth @idle field @half light I mean there is a whole conversation with Eleanor that is just "Why doesn't Lettie just date me?" Lmao. Even the 1999 comic designer did a Eleanor Lettie Art.

[rain otter]

Hmmmm she says percussive maintainance ajd sneaking up on her and such is what she recommends. (Lettie).

[rain otter]

All of them are a little-lot freaky EXCEPT Amir. The sweet ADHD boy.

[zenith jacinth]

?

[rain otter]

What?

I said what I said. You can look up the Eleanor conversation about lettie.

I don't remember what rank though.

[zenith jacinth]

Why ping

[rain otter]

Thought you might wanna know.

[misty sand]

Ok so I just finished the jade shadows and I'm questioning reality what did I witness

[half light]

pregante frame

[misty sand]

My operator is gonna have nightmares now...thanks stalker

[nova harness]

Can you narrow it down a bit

[misty sand]

I wish I culd that entire quest whas...something else

[half light]

it's not bad imo

[misty sand]

The quest is cool...I like the stalker and his "nobody will hurt my kid" It's just...it has me feeling wierd...honestly I don't have a quest in warframe I hate

[signal pewter]

Hey so cofrect me if im wrong, at the end of WITW we saw Fake Albrecht, was that brought up at all in The Hex besides seeing Wally transforming into him a few times?

How was Fake Albrecht in present day and past day at the same time?

Or is it just Wally disrespecting the laws of time again

I mean we saw from the Arthur segment of WITW that fake albrecht was already in 1999, but also he's in present day

[balmy badger]

Wally can be in multiple timelines at once it seems.

[nova harness]

That was Wally the whole time

[zenith jacinth]

The past albrecht was real until the clock hits midnight

[nova harness]

That wasn’t fake Albrecht that was Wally taking over actual Albrecht

It was never stated Wally couldn’t get to 1999 Albrecht always said couldn’t easily follow not couldn’t follow at all

[azure solar]

"not my intended revenge but ill take it" -stalker probably

thank you mods

[real niche]

Are we forgetting the whole Amir dog thing

[prime lantern]

Guh

[half light]

the what

[real niche]

Obviously it wasn't in a freaky manner and just joking around but it was funny to bring up

[half light]

i don't think he meant territory marking like that

more like the way arthur and quincy do it, sword and bullet holes respectively

only one into pet play is lettie afaik

[real niche]

The entire conversation was about alikening him to a dog.

Yes, he means territory marking like that

Literally the response he is responding too lmao

Even worse.

[half light]

yeah i immediately went to look for it

he even did the :3

[opaque dove]

No the insertleashjoke

[zenith jacinth]

Oh I would either not get along with him at all or way too well

[half light]

But why : (

I misread

Wait a sec 🤨

[zenith jacinth]

Don't question it

[half light]

Not gonna, my list is bigger 😔

[tepid dagger]

Same king.

[tepid dagger]

Missed the chance for the response "What is a mongoose"

[lone axle]

hello chat

is anyone else curious as to if we'll see the night of the naga drums in full or nah

[hearty pendant]

doubt we will
i feel like it'd reduce its impact a little if we ever saw the full thing

[amber terrace]

I see “Mongoose Tank” and I immediately imagine the unholy amalgamation of an M274 Mongoose and an M808B Scorpion lmaoooo

[lone axle]

true
mostly curious due to how many times it's been brought up recently

[opaque dove]

Ok, those of you who completed the hex and have option, which of the Hex members were you after the most

[zenith jacinth]

No reason to

[balmy storm]

Lettie and Eleanor

[steep totem]

None, at first
Eleanor kinda grew on me after a bit though

[zenith jacinth]

All but lettie

[opaque dove]

I tried to hone in on Quincy but ended up with Aoi

Somehow

[undone lodge]

None, but went for Aoi after finding out that only romances let you get them in the Backroom

[amber terrace]

Listening to The Great Despair again after not listening to it for months

There’s something about it that I can’t quite articulate that makes me sad, like the kind of sad that comes with witnessing the end of a story that you’ve invested tons of emotional effort into

[tight pagoda]

Almost like an obsession that's turned into an, idk, a great despair?

[amber terrace]

Kinda??? I see what you did there lol

[lone axle]

aoi, was a mag main before and still kinda am

[orchid perch]

umm is this the good ending for her?

[amber terrace]

Yes

Visit her in Larunda

[orchid perch]

ah

where can I find Kaya?

I mean where can I find her in Larunda

[amber terrace]

Above the ducats

[orchid perch]

thank you

[amber terrace]

[orchid perch]

I wonder if DE will do anything with her now that she is in our timeline

[half light]

Operation time heist

[fading current]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-endgame-time-travel-hulk-timetravel-professor-hulk-gif-14123714

[half light]

No no, time heist

[fading current]

That’s still time travel lol

[half light]

You have to stop the scaldra and grineer and/or corpus from travelling to 1999/origin system. You do so by stealing uhhhh chrono bolts from them

And you buy arcanes off kaya with them

[balmy storm]

Considering you specifically need her good ending?
We’ll see

They’re done with 1999 for the time being so who knows

[tight pagoda]

Really interested to see how the new Boolean from Veliminerva's good ending will turn out

[half light]

on one hand if they make it mean anything at all, good because it gives an extra dialogue or story option (hopefully)

on the other hand, there'll be a flood of people who paid 0 attention to KIM chats and maybe will complain about it

[solemn radish]

Anyone else thing the void tongue sounds like the world serpent in gow

[azure solar]

@steep totem the whole comment was " technically the lotus is the traiter here- twice over - once to the tau and once to the tenno once she remembered who she was before meeting us

[steep totem]

Oh, so what you were saying was spoiler
Not what they were saying

Next time, you could have just spoiler tagged your own comment

[azure solar]

cant really blame space mom though- no really winning side - besides the undying chad(ette)s she guides-

[azure solar]

could have also used ellipses like i should have grammatically (these) but yeah the orokin are chinge

[lone axle]

...ow, unrelated ping lol

[hearty pendant]

iirc she was also reprogrammed for those betrayals so it isn't exactly her making those decisions

[azure solar]

didnt she ask wally for children?

[hearty pendant]

..no
she didn't even know about wally until chains of harrow

[azure solar]

(not sure what her deal was if any)

[hearty pendant]

she was sent to bury herself into the reservoir on lua as a sentient mimic, got reprogrammed by ballas to betray the sentients (and to later influence the tenno to kill the orokin), then (presumably) got reprogrammed again by ballas after apostasy prologue to be Natah again, to finish the war.
she denies "the man in the wall" existing until the end of chains, blaming it all on a transference loop

[azure solar]

what i meant to tell you was " i also rushed to bond with aoi because i liked her vibe- but i was an excal/valk main"

[lone axle]

ah gotcha

[azure solar]

thank you
now she just stares off into the abyss ' not a fun spot

[hearty pendant]

using herself as a lure of sorts, yeah
"It is hungry, Tenno. And I... am a distraction."

[azure solar]

"lotus if i may make a suggestion DONT F- er- tamper with the unknown... the operator does not have instant response time"

what i hope to hear from ordis

[thick jolt]

People think her lines after lotus eaters indicate she made a deal

So far it hasnt really been cleared up, i think she might be commenting on someone else's deal but we will see in time

[hearty pendant]

that's the one about lua, yeah?
but even the most likely thing, putting it in the void, seems to just be existing tech being used mostly as intended

[thick jolt]

I'd argue that makes it the most unlikely lol

[nova harness]

Yeah she didn’t need a deal to put it in the Void and we didn’t need one to put it back in real space again

Not even the only example of a moon being put in the Void as Deimos was phased into the Void till Grandmother decided to attempt to destroy the Heart

[thick jolt]

Most extreme i'll turn this car around moment

[hearty pendant]

oh god it really is-

[steep totem]

Definitely made their heads spin lol

[nova harness]

Most of the time Lotus tries to say it’s all in your head kid when bringing up Wally

[steep totem]

Then Wally shows up after defeating Ballas and goes "you sure about that?"

Wonder if that's actually why he showed up there
He was tired of Lotus saying he doesn't exist

Probably not, but it was a funny thought

[nova harness]

He showed up because Ballas opened up a giant Void portal

[steep totem]

In my view, that was always how he showed up, not why

[zenith jacinth]

Same thing in this case

[nova harness]

Before that Wally had never been shown be able to show up in real space without tethering onto another person

[steep totem]

Okay, but then why only make an appearance after Ballas was out of commission?
Why not poke his head through the moment the portal opened?

or was that the moment the portal opened?
been a bit since I did New War

[nova harness]

He had to make the portal bigger first

[steep totem]

So when was the portal "made bigger"?
Before or after fighting Ballas?

My point is, if it was before, Wally could have made an appearance earlier

Which would mean he had a different reason for showing up later

[nova harness]

It was right after Lotus took her power back

[steep totem]

...ugh, fine

Takes all the fun out of crafting theories when you forget the exact order of events

[zenith jacinth]

What would that """different reason""" even be

[steep totem]

I don't know
Me being funny says it would be to prove to Lotus he actually exists

But honestly, I can't figure out why he does 99% of the things he does

And at this rate, I'd rather have an absurd reason than none at all

[zenith jacinth]

Sometimes there is no reason, especially with some eldritch god

[steep totem]

Which makes sense
But still annoys me

[real niche]

Welcome to a story that's yet to wrap up.

[zenith jacinth]

I bet the orokin empire starts in 2035

[real niche]

That's a heck of a lot of wars in a short time

[zenith jacinth]

Normal human things

[steep totem]

It's not that
Usually, I can tell what motivates a character in this game (Parvos is another annoying exception, but he seems at least partially motivated by profit)

Wally just... seems to do what he wants, how he wants, without any particular goal

[real niche]

He's trying to get after Albrecht at the very least

[steep totem]

And maybe he doesn't have a full endgame except vengeance on all who cross him
I don't know

Yeah, that is pretty clear
And would be a clear case of vengeance
The Hex did at least clear that part up

But some of the other things he does, like his appearance after The Sacrifice, just don't add up to me

[azure solar]

not lua

its not even a quest really- you just check on her and ask a question for each person

[azure solar]

"whatever he wants"

i feel like parvos is oone of a few which have been exagerated into a character point after contact with the void

him being greed

[nova harness]

A quest setting up a larger quest is still a quest and it’s not even the first time DE have done a quest like that

[azure solar]

its not like im trying to nitpick

[hearty pendant]

was talking about one of her lines after that quest, yeah. it mentions lua

[azure solar]

its just not as interactive as im used to

[azure solar]

????

ive not heard this

[hearty pendant]

something like "Lua. The Miracle. Do you understand what it cost?"

possible deal implications but also like. phasing moons in and out of the void is tech the orokin had

[nova harness]

That quote still doesn’t suggest she had a deal

[azure solar]

or the iml+cations of taking the moon out of the origin system

[hearty pendant]

closest to a deal implication out of those lines afaik
i don't think she had any deals with wally, no, but i can kinda see how someone could think that based off of that quote w/o thinking much more about it

[nova harness]

If a player doesn’t think enough sure

[lone axle]

okay so my friend recently played TNW and got his tenet plinx, and renamed it
this name goes so hard

[opaque dove]

Lowkey tempted to get a tenet plinx

[eternal flume]

Got the tenet plinx from the new war?

I don’t understand the relation

[lone axle]

no he got a tenet plinx sister after the new war
then got the plinx and renamed it after veso-r's final line

[eternal flume]

Ohhh

Rip vespa 💔 🕊️ I didn’t really like his gameplay but he was a cool dude

[opaque dove]

May the best corpus worker rest in peace

[hearty pendant]

venmo was awesome yeah

[opaque dove]

Poor Teko

[opaque dove]

Imma get me one and call it Shotcaller I

[solemn radish]

This reminds me of gotg 3

[acoustic heron]

dude i actually hate this rising tide quest

its so repetitive and boring grr

[hearty pendant]

yeah rising tide is like that
do something else between missions, there's 4 or 5 iirc

[acoustic heron]

my god

i just got the tail thing, how much more do i need

[hearty pendant]

tail section is second to last
so one more

[acoustic heron]

okay

[tight pagoda]

It's much better with teammates, you can have 3 on point and one to deal with the drones

[echo basalt]

hey at least it wasn't the wack amount of resources or time it had on release

this was first release rising tide resource and credit amounts

[nova harness]

Went from 12h to 6h to 1h

[echo basalt]

yea

[nova harness]

Not sure if they actually changed the credit and resource costs

[echo basalt]

they did

considering some of the resources don't exist in game anymore

[acoustic heron]

TESHIN WAS A BAD GUY ALL ALONG

WHAT THE HECK MAN

i thought he was cool

[tight pagoda]

Nothing personal, kiddo

[acoustic heron]

they took my frickin revenant dude

now im in this icy place grr

[zenith jacinth]

[acoustic heron]

they had no reason to makw it this hard wth

[echo basalt]

tbf it was a december update that was shadow dropped

honestly the hard bit was the wait and argon crystals

[acoustic heron]

nvm its all my imagination

[zenith jacinth]

Well at least you got that right

[eternal flume]

It really was

[tight pagoda]

They had it right first, that's how the quest presents it

[rain otter]

To 1 minute.

[opaque dove]

It wasn’t fun keeping the stupid Grineer away and having to take out jamming drones

[acoustic heron]

how many times do i need to capture rell's emotions

[zenith jacinth]

Really?

Only like two or three times

[acoustic heron]

yeah i just got done

i had to ask cuz its just so annoying to do, the spirit thing just kept teleporting all over the place

story's great tho

[eternal flume]

Did you not use the siphon traps

[acoustic heron]

and it scary

[acoustic heron]

i did, but it teleports before i have the chance to use it lol

but im done with it now

[zenith jacinth]

They only teleport once whenever I replay the quest

[pastel frost]

I don't understand it. Do I need to do anything before I can speak to the Warden in Duviri?

[hasty rivet]

Sometimes, he just doesn't spawn in (in my experience its a rare instance for the spawn not to happen, kind of like how the puzzle in the arcabor doesn't spawn in fully occasionally). It may take a while, or it may be part of your "story" for that run in Duviri

[rain otter]

Are you in the lone story?

[hasty rivet]

^ That could also be it

[pastel frost]

free experience or what the name is

[pastel frost]

I already managed to resolve it a few times by voiding out, but didn't work this time...

[hasty rivet]

I wish I could give you a concrete answer

[rain otter]

@hasty rivet @pastel frost i think you need at least 3 decrees

To do it let me check.

[pastel frost]

I have way more than that

also, it says something about 7 being recommended for the fight

[rain otter]

Well

[zenith jacinth]

Kullervo fight might be part of the story for your loop?

[hasty rivet]

Convinced that the Warden just doesn't spawn in sometimes to be as annoying as his counterpart

[zenith jacinth]

The puzzle always spawns in fully tho

[hasty rivet]

Not in my experience, sometimes the owl in the tower doesn't actually have the puzzle there, you can go and unlock everything you need, fly in, and all thats there is the owl themselves and the little quiz tablet

doesn't happen often, its rare, but it happens

[zenith jacinth]

You might just be experiencing a glitch I think

[hasty rivet]

agonizing, next time it happens I'll make a bug report

[pastel frost]

you did do all 4 head though, right?

[hasty rivet]

yup

[zenith jacinth]

I've never had the puzzle not spawn in

[hasty rivet]

Kinda blowing my mind that it hasn't happened to other people? Either way, I hope you get your Warden to spawn @pastel frost

[pastel frost]

yep, that was it

[patent nacelle]

why i cant chat in the game guys

[nova harness]

Have you gained a single mastery rank yet?

[patent nacelle]

already mastery 1 sir

[nova harness]

DE might've locked it till MR 2 most likely to prevent players abusing the fact you're a new player

[balmy badger]

Well if it was a chat ban, the message would say that you're suspended, so probably just hitting measures they implemented to prevent new accounts from spamming.

[patent nacelle]

ty guys

❤️

[strange geyser]

"I am, ||under the circumstances, a viable Command Cephalon.||, whew why is this hitting me so hard

[amber terrace]

Because Cy’s voice is hot in a similar fashion as Hunhow’s

[strange geyser]

meant more along the lines of emotional gut punching actually <_<

[amber terrace]

Ope mb

[jade crypt]

youre so real about that

[amber terrace]

To be fair, I’d rather go for Hunhow, Cy does have very nice lines with boarding parties

[jade crypt]

yeah

[eternal flume]

Because you just learned what cy was forced to do and how brave it is for him to step up even with all of his guilt

[wicked iron]

I know what you mean. Poor guy went through a lot

[amber terrace]

Am I getting the wrong message when I genuinely feel bad for Pazuul when I hear his/Erra’s dialogue at the end of Archon Hunt defenses?

This line is an absolute gut punch for me. Clearly Erra/Pazzul is in his own head with paranoia about how his sister, who his parents give preferential treatment to, is trying and succeeding at pitting everyone against him and isolating him

[zenith jacinth]

Don't feel bad for pazuul. Pazuul is just a parasite

[eternal flume]

erra is very dead.

pazuul is a zombie, a new monster, different from the sentient who learned from his mistakes and helped us.

[tight pagoda]

There's hints that he's still aware of himself, but Pazuul is in control. In Spy missions, he has a voice line apologizing to the Tenno, and it sounds like he breaks free.

[zenith jacinth]

Nope

[eternal flume]

kahl literally said "body is dead worm"

[steep totem]

The Archons wish
But no, Erra lives
Barely

[zenith jacinth]

Kahl is the furthest from a reliable source on that

[tight pagoda]

Kahl isn't directly involved with dealing with Pazuul and the Archons

Moreso he's taking down Narmer

[eternal flume]

also, wasnt every archon dead?

[tight pagoda]

Leaving us to handle the bigger threats

[steep totem]

They came back

[tight pagoda]

Archon shards brought them back to life (like it did with Lotus)

[zenith jacinth]

Archon shard revive them

[eternal flume]

so isnt pazuul just the ram but revived with an archon shard and erra's body

[tight pagoda]

I don't think it's specified who gave them the shards, but it's probably whoever created Pazuul as well

[zenith jacinth]

There are canonically way more than 3 shards

[steep totem]

no, wait, I want to ammend that
They got better

[eternal flume]

pretty sure it's erra

[eternal flume]

"suck it up"

[zenith jacinth]

Pazuul is the ram head, yes

[eternal flume]

so if every other archon is a sentient beast that's been revived, then the pazuul we see is probably the ram, not erra. the body of erra could exert some influence on pazuul but hes probably still dead.

even if he didnt die in the new war having your head replaced with a ram head would usually kill smth, maybe not sentients idk.

[zenith jacinth]

Nobody is saying pazuul isn't the ram, but erra is still alive, just in the metaphorical back seat

[zenith jacinth]

His head isn't replaced, you can still see the weird head tendril things he has

[eternal flume]

huh?

[zenith jacinth]

You don't even remember what erra looked like

[eternal flume]

I do

but the weird tendril things are replaced with ram horns, right?

[zenith jacinth]

They're going through/below the horns

[eternal flume]

I need to find a better pic of pazuul.

[amber terrace]

Should I redirect my sympathy towards Erra?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[acoustic heron]

the sacrifice is actually peak omg

[nova harness]

Agreed

[opaque dove]

POV:every Archon

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-i-got-better-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-gif-27375160

[strange hound]

Hey, am I unable to get the war greatsword if I already completed jade shadows?

[nova harness]

No, that’s still a thing they even updated it making it easier to get

[acoustic heron]

how

[nova harness]

Same way you always would’ve, DE didn’t change it

[acoustic heron]

they just increased the chance of it dropping?

[nova harness]

Yes

They lowered drop chance of Dread though

[acoustic heron]

okay

6% is still crazy tho ngl

[zenith jacinth]

I haven't seen a dread bp in months

[opaque dove]

Think I have a spare. And a despair too

[half light]

i have at minimum 2 copies of each weapon bp, but then i can't get hammer shot after 2 weeks of trying

[zenith jacinth]

I also haven't seen a war bp since I abandoned my old acc

[radiant sapphire]

i have a question about the protoframes if anyone is able to answer: so i know they were given helminth abilities which turned them into partial warframes, but like... how partial is it? is the warframe suit totally fused to their bodies other than their heads or can they take some of it off and wear regular clothes?

[opaque dove]

What does hammer shot do anyways?

[zenith jacinth]

Warframes aren't suits, they're reshaped skin and flesh

[radiant sapphire]

okay cool, thank you!

[azure solar]

well redeeming them

[azure solar]

what use is a 7-9 foot bipedal tank with superpowers if you never take it for a spin

and dont say "counciling sessions" we already know that

[azure solar]

yeah- theres grape green apple and orange

[azure solar]

he still tries to catch these hands after a boss

[nova harness]

Never learns his lesson

[azure solar]

well i mean there is a dating aspect so...

[azure solar]

"this isnt possible"

[nova harness]

Warframe is their flesh they are identical to a non-partial except with a head showing

[radiant sapphire]

this is very true... i was asking because i'm trying to draw fanart of arthur in casual clothes but i wasn't sure how many warframe elements i should keep/what parts were his actual anatomy vs what parts were stuff that he just wears for when he's around doing hex stuff

[strange hound]

He jumped my ass after I did my first SP mission. Thought I’d try it to see if I could handle it, quickly realized I couldn’t and before I could leave he jumped my ass

[azure solar]

he felt he had only that chance- much luck on your grind

[azure solar]

i mean you could just like... put clothes over him

[radiant sapphire]

yeah that's the plan now, just making sure i'm still drawing arthur and not just Some Guy lmao

thank you!

[half light]

if i understood flare, the protoframes all will end up turning into the frame they represent eventually which doesn't stop you from drawing eleanor in casual clothes before she was framed

[radiant sapphire]

that's interesting and also so sad

yeah i'll just go with blah blah blah alternate dimension where they never became protoframes but still met the drifter blah blah blah

[thick jolt]

Even before, albrechts grimoire logs also said they could eventually change completely

The year loop is probably doing the bulk of keeping them, them

[radiant sapphire]

yeah

[opaque dove]

What would the Argon Burger meal all come with?

Besides the burger

[real niche]

Can't see it being anything other than a generic fast food combo

[zenith jacinth]

Actual argon in a little vial and a drink

And. Borgar. Ofc.

[azure solar]

a time limit

[kind swallow]

I’ve been having a weird bug where when I’m downed and ||go spoiler mode revive thing, but not revived, or I’m partially revived and they stop or maybe I’m taking damage? Who knows || my body (Warframe and I think pet) will disappear and then ||if I die as spoiler mode I’m invincible and can no longer sprint or shoot|| so that’s… something. Weird bug, is there a fix for this, or known?

[nova harness]

You could make a forum post about it

[plush swan]

Amir be like:

Incorrect Amir Quote: "Can you believe they just left this on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'? Yoink!"

[eternal flume]

Can’t believe they did that

[plush swan]

For reference, the actual quote is:

Amir: "Can you believe they just left this in an armor plated heavily guarded safe? Yoink."

[plush swan]

Yeah, they were just asking for a Tenno or Protoframe to find it, weren't they? XD

[eternal flume]

I mean yeah, any idiot could just walk down some stairs, input the 8-digit code, make their way through the maze, fight off a horde of techrot monsters, then find the entrance to the stall behind a wall of flesh. If they wanted it to be safe, they should’ve hidden it.

[zenith jacinth]

No need to spoiler tag here

[urban pond]

man i love trying to scan the entire bloody map just for an efervon charge

[undone lodge]

I know it’s been a few days but I’m redoing my KIM with the flowchart and just noticed one of Amir’s responses is “get me all excited and then pfffhhht”
“Animal cruelty”. Just figured I should add to the evidence

[opaque dove]

Any of the coda weapons I should nab this rotation

[amber terrace]

The Coda Mire has a 57.5% elemental bonus

[opaque dove]

Next rotation it’s the Bassocyst

[amber terrace]

I’m not an expert on Coda weapon, the only reason I know about the Mire is because I just checked not too long ago

[zenith jacinth]

I feel like that tile specifically is glitched with that ridiculous search circle size

That's not a hint that you should place something, just random idle chatter

[warm flare]

Sorry

[amber terrace]

Nah m8 ur good

[zenith jacinth]

No need to apologize

[azure solar]

i mean he is practically half a golden retriever- lets be real

[real niche]

Yeah but the point was they're all freaks

[half light]

Arthur is normal

Afaik

And in the gradient, amir is pretty tame

[eternal flume]

Every conversation I’ve had with Arthur ends in “ok let’s have beers first”

Wondering how much alcohol the two have consumed together

[half light]

i said "normal" not uh

uhm

he may like drinking a bit

[nova harness]

Still gets outdrunk by Velmir

[amber terrace]

Velimir may have out drank Arthur, but who had the worse hangover?

[nova harness]

Velmir didn't seem to be bothered about it

[amber terrace]

Watch it turn out that the Helminth reduces hangovers

[half light]

velimir has that rusan(?) ancestry backing him up

[steep totem]

Probably just Rus ancestry
Least, that's how I remember Velimer using the adjective

[azure solar]

i mean to be fair points at the Lore of Warframe lurking in a sinister manner in the corner they have to deal with that

[half light]

Eleanor's freaky to cope with seeing herself as a monster

Lettie uhhhh i don't remember the reason but she does have one for being sadomaso

[steep totem]

Lore of Warframe: Awwww, its head snapped off...

[half light]

Quincy, amir and aoi idk

[zenith jacinth]

Suffering. A lot.

[real niche]

Thats still him ranking fourth if we're saying Aoi and Arthur are less freaky than him. Not like there's much competition

[zenith jacinth]

Just freaky, comparatively clean, chronically onlyne online

[zenith jacinth]

Oh, no, aoi is above amir in the ranking

[half light]

Def

[real niche]

What

[zenith jacinth]

Backroom dialogue

[real niche]

I've been dating Aoi and haven't figured this out wha- oh

[half light]

From less to most: arthur, amir, aoi, quincy, eleanor, lettie

[zenith jacinth]

Just one quote hint
"Balloons"

[half light]

||"I tried on those Archwings of yours, ya know, they do grip tight in the hips. If you ever felt like... nevermind."||

[zenith jacinth]

Can't hear a balloon popping in the mall from the backroom

[half light]

Also in some duviri kim chat "you'd make a nice damsel in distress"

[zenith jacinth]

That's not freaky

[steep totem]

Then there's the gold handcuffs...

[half light]

Trust me

[zenith jacinth]

I've dated aoi the damsel in distress thing is nothing

[eternal flume]

the wat

[zenith jacinth]

Metal bending abilities

[eternal flume]

o

[zenith jacinth]

Handcuffs are probably on the much tamer side of things aoi could make

[half light]

The way she makes a blob of liquid metal and into cards...

[eternal flume]

imagine if amir had her powers

[steep totem]

True
But do you really want her to be talking about freakier construction projects?

[eternal flume]

dude could make an entire computer

[steep totem]

Dang autocorrect

[zenith jacinth]

I mean

Kinda?

[half light]

Im no electrician, but if amir tones down the 1 and makes it a channeled ability i think it'd feel good

[steep totem]

Eh, to each their own, I guess

[half light]

I swear there is a machine like that, saw it on one of those scam tv ads

[steep totem]

I guess I'm on the tamer side, despite choosing Eleanor

[zenith jacinth]

I. Am. Very. Far. From. Normal.

[eternal flume]

im gonna choose amir, just gotta get my hex rank up

[steep totem]

Of course
You are a Cephalon, after all

[eternal flume]

i havent been doing my 1999 bounties recently

[half light]

Eleanor got me 2 for 1

[eternal flume]

gotta grind some endo

[zenith jacinth]

Ppl who choose eleanor have a 50% chance of being extremely shallow as a person

[half light]

"Question: can two people with wildly differing physiques and lethality levels be in a relationship ?" YES PLS

[steep totem]

Please note that I only chose Eleanor after chatting with her in the Kim

[zenith jacinth]

I chose aoi, then arthur, then el

The idle lines get grating after a few weeks

[half light]

😭

Legit wanna know what it feels like to have someone in your mind like that maybe i'll ask lettie's rat

[eternal flume]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-md-doctor-freaky-gif-7807484460015619799

[spring patrol]

Probably like someone sticking their fingers in your earm

[zenith jacinth]

Probably maybe possible to emulate somehow

Idk psychology

[half light]

🤔

[steep totem]

I never understood why people talk to him about his sister like that
Like, seriously, that's his sister
That's weird

[spring patrol]

Amir best

[zenith jacinth]

They're the 50%

[steep totem]

I see

[zenith jacinth]

I know how to get into some people's head but more like as a combat tactic rather than whatever eleanor can do

[half light]

👉 👈

[zenith jacinth]

Or self defense. Usually self defense

So uh oraxia right

Spooder

Arachnophobia frame

[half light]

Those webs though

[zenith jacinth]

I'm trying to steer the topic back to normal

[half light]

They can copy the monster hunter anti-arachnophobia setting

[zenith jacinth]

Meaning it only works on the tiny ones?

[half light]

Uh

Oraxia doesn't look that much like a spider

[zenith jacinth]

Enough to activate some people's neurons

[steep totem]

Also, the scuttlers bother some people more than Oraxia herself

[zenith jacinth]

Actually now that I am reminded of monter hunter

-# disappears

[half light]

Wiki says she's based off this species

Why would anything evolve like that

[zenith jacinth]

To praise the sun

[steep totem]

Probably either for camouflage or to discourage predators from eating them

[zenith jacinth]

\[T]/

[undone lodge]

Messed up strawberry

[exotic gate]

Her whole design also screams Hollow knight, which is a nice look.

[zenith jacinth]

That's just the helmet

[eternal flume]

Wtf

[exotic gate]

Her coming with a whip also screams whiptail scorpions

[eternal flume]

I would assume so

I don’t understand how the concept of your character having legs that are somewhat similar to a spiders would be scary

[exotic gate]

Its not a rational fear the people have, its an irrational fear. Their brain just triggered fear out of sight on it as a response.

Well not necessarily fear, but disgust too

[azure solar]

why is there a head skittering around the chat chanting in voidtongue?

[steep totem]

Lore of Warframe: I wasn't done with playing with it yet

[azure solar]

why is there dialog that you can be that much of a menace?

[azure solar]

grins
(correct)

[eternal flume]

What happens when ur done

[steep totem]

There's actually one almost better worse
You can talk to Minerva and Velimer about their adopted daughter Rusalka
Velimer doesn't appreciate it

[eternal flume]

Think she’s gonna survive?

For isleweaver and eight claw

[steep totem]

No clue, buddy
no clue

[eternal flume]

You asked if I was on a few hours ago, what was that about?

[opaque dove]

Defense reasons

[opaque dove]

Yes.

[steep totem]

I thought you said you wanted a Revenant Prime

I was asking because I had just booted up the game

[opaque dove]

I did offer to burn the necessary aya to get the relics. I got 37(2 got burned to rank up a syndicate)