spoiler-chat

[tropic venture]

what if linear time was the string forming an infinite fabric that composed an infinite cube

[prime lantern]

Wally due to his unique existence might be exempt from the rules unless he doesn't want to be

[tropic venture]

Either that, or it means there's just one. Endless amounts vs. infinite scope

[prime lantern]

So we might just be the only timeline with tenno

[eternal flume]

Timelines

[thick jolt]

I see the operator death scene after the handshake as wally "dealing" with that, so as i understand it... no there arent

[nova harness]

It’s all What ifs of Operator as Drifter is an Operator who didn't get saved

[tropic venture]

Essentially Wally changing our Reality causality-based selves to instead function on Void-based rules

[prime lantern]

We still adhere to causality

Otherwise the unum couldn't see us

[umbral willow]

Bro wtf is this

[eternal flume]

What’s the quest

[umbral willow]

Second dream

[eternal flume]

Yeah take that dude to extraction lol

You’ll get a cutscene to teach you who they are

[glacial wolf]

Gangnam style lol

[umbral willow]

Wtf does it look like a 8 year old ik their us and teenagers but this mf tiny

[eternal flume]

Oh nvm you know

[umbral willow]

I already passed that cutscene when I took the pic

[eternal flume]

He’s a kid, was in stasis for a while

Or she ig

[umbral willow]

Whys she shooting lazers 🤣

[eternal flume]

Void magic

Someone gave you void magic in the past

[umbral willow]

I'm manhandling myself 🤣

[nova harness]

It’s a bug in the quest DE haven't fixed yet that the frame shouldn't be doing that to you

[eternal flume]

Yeah lol

It’s really funny tho

[nova harness]

I saw someone have their frame slam them into the ground

[eternal flume]

That’s peak

Mine was boring

[umbral willow]

This shadow dudes bullying me

[eternal flume]

Stalker?

[nova harness]

Beam him

[umbral willow]

Called him shadow idk

[eternal flume]

K wait I need to know guys am I the only one who thought hunhow was the sword during this quest

[umbral willow]

He killed me

He stabbed me

[eternal flume]

Rip

[nova harness]

He is the sword it was made with his fragments that's why he could talk through it

[eternal flume]

Oh. I see.

It was kinda just a piece of him tho

[umbral willow]

OOOH NOW LOTUS SHOWS UP AFTER I WAS STABBED

[eternal flume]

Yayyy

Space mom comes to save the day

[umbral willow]

After im stabbed ofc

[eternal flume]

Naturally

[umbral willow]

Space moms mean

[eternal flume]

||Wait until she temporarily abandons you||

[umbral willow]

WTF SHE GUNNA BE MY IRL MOM FR FR

[eternal flume]

Dw it isn’t exactly her choice

[umbral willow]

Ok so I retract my earlier statement

[nova harness]

How does it feel seeing the real you?

[eternal flume]

Lmao

[umbral willow]

Fells weird I want the tenon back

[eternal flume]

That is the Tenno.

[umbral willow]

I mean the frame thingy

[eternal flume]

You get it back

[umbral willow]

Also does this matter

[nova harness]

You control the frame from a distance

[eternal flume]

Not permanent but it’ll matter a bit afaik

[nova harness]

Recommend Zenurik first

[eternal flume]

Just for the foreseeable future

[umbral willow]

I was gunna

It sounds cool like red veil

[eternal flume]

I picked madurai for funsies

It sounded cool

[umbral willow]

I like the description

[eternal flume]

I like fast

Fast is cool

[umbral willow]

Shes sitting on a throne 🤣

[nova harness]

I've mastered all 5 and wish I could remove the lens entirely

[eternal flume]

Which is why I’m still using volt since the very beginning

[eternal flume]

Damn lol

I just have phoenix talons

Lvl 3

I should probably upgrade some of this for angels of the zariman

[nova harness]

Yeah

[eternal flume]

I’ll have to do some circuit ig

[nova harness]

Probably won't need it for it but always good to do it

[eternal flume]

Which ones for Madurai should I get first

[glacial wolf]

Which quest opens the creation of riven mods

[umbral willow]

I'm getting my railjack boyss

[eternal flume]

W

[nova harness]

War Within

[eternal flume]

Railjacks are so fun

Haven’t had mine for long but it is awesome

[umbral willow]

Star wars boyyy

[eternal flume]

Quest was crazy tedious tho

[glacial wolf]

How long is it

[umbral willow]

Where's the dry dock

[eternal flume]

Got an experienced friend to help me kill the stupid drones

But it turns out I had forgotten to mod my melee

[eternal flume]

Relay

Krosan I believe

[nova harness]

1-2 hours

[umbral willow]

Sh

[glacial wolf]

And how long is rising tide

[glacial wolf]

Its my next quest

[eternal flume]

Oh hey you both are doing rising tide lol

[glacial wolf]

Im not doing it actually im just finishing all the quests in system

[tropic venture]

Some Relays, and your Clan Dojo potentially

[glacial wolf]

Mastering planets

[nova harness]

Rising tide it depends because the resources might take longer

[umbral willow]

Slash or toxin?

[glacial wolf]

Does finishing uncompleted missions give mr xp?

[eternal flume]

I hate those stupid interference drones

They make the quest take three times as long as it would be otherwise

[nova harness]

Yeah 27k total for all non new quest node

Same for SP

[eternal flume]

How much do you get from max ranking a warframe?

[nova harness]

6k

[eternal flume]

I’m about to start building Mirage, just gotta get her argon crystal

[eternal flume]

Damn :(

[eternal flume]

Wait, you don’t mean per quest, right?

[nova harness]

New nodes from quests don't give extra mastery

[eternal flume]

I’m confused

[umbral willow]

Ima be playing star wars in warframe

[eternal flume]

Like replaying a quest gives you 27K mastery experience?

[nova harness]

No

The nodes added with quests don't give extra mastery

[glacial wolf]

Wf needs a star wars collab

[eternal flume]

Then what does

I don’t understand what you mean

[nova harness]

The original nodes before quests gave new nodes added onto the location

[umbral willow]

My railjack sigma

[eternal flume]

… right, so you’re gonna have to explain this like I’m a three year old, because I don’t know what you mean by giving new nodes, I don’t know what you mean by adding on, and I don’t know what location you’re talking about

[eternal flume]

My railjack brings all the boys to the yard

[tropic venture]

initial nodes give Mastery, quest-unlocked nodes do not

[lucid blaze]

Finding out what warframes are made of be like

[eternal flume]

So just passively doing random nodes to get to another planet for example would give you mastery?

[lucid blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPDUpjkHg0

[tropic venture]

Once per node, yes

[eternal flume]

And in total, if you do every single one of them, you get 27K mastery xp?

[tropic venture]

yes

[eternal flume]

I was hoping this was gonna be a way to grind a lot of mastery XP fast. Probably just faster to rank up a frame.

Which I will do, because I need to craft Mirage

[glacial wolf]

Big scam

[nova harness]

You can get like 135k mastery points if you do Duviri and Railjack intrinsics

[tight lichen]

What we have on this week incarnons for circuit?

[glacial wolf]

Im gonna kms literally
Who tf designed lephantis

[undone lodge]

Zenurik is also the funniest because they just ran out of fitting symbolism ideas and just chose shiny rock.

[steep totem]

Duviri Intrinsics will also help with some of this
Rank 9 bonuses carry over into the Origin System
You get a health buff and a damage buff iirc (and the option to use your horse in open worlds, but that's for weirdos like me who like the Kaithe mechanics)

[eternal flume]

What are intrinsics?

Been a while since I’ve been in duviri’s world

[steep totem]

For the most part, they are Duviri-specific buffs that you grind points for by earning decrees and doing other stuff

[eternal flume]

I see

Does the spiral apply to this

[steep totem]

No
They are the same regardless of which Spiral it is currently

[undone lodge]

Railjack also has Intrinsics, with a bunch applying to Archwings and Necramechs outside of Empyrean

[eternal flume]

*circuit
mb

[steep totem]

Yes, they will apply to the Circuit
However, earning Intrinsics in the Circuit is much more challenging than in the Duviri Experience
In the Circuit, you only get Intrinsics from completing Decree Fragments

It can be done, just in my experience (and opinion) takes longer

[eternal flume]

Oh, okay.

[gentle ridge]

Does anyone know the exact release date for Isleweaver I am planning to take that day off work

[thick jolt]

we dont have one yet

[frail musk]

found this guy in post new war fortuna. guess he really likes ballas's voice

[eternal flume]

Pretty sure you can still find narmer enemies in game

[frail musk]

you can, but this is the only narmer dude i've found in a hub

[eternal flume]

It’s pretty sad

[frail musk]

no friends 😦

[tight pagoda]

For some, the false memories created by the Veils are the only happy ones they have

[eternal flume]

Ultra sad

[wicked iron]

I want to see the Operator do the fist slam to control time. If Drifter now shares in our powers, we should share in theirs! XD

[zenith jacinth]

I still think that drifter can't control time. Albrecht created and extended the loop, and drifter only controls duviri because they created it

[fading current]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-1999-the-hex-drifter-begin-again-gif-639103360702619643

[near quest]

Guys I opened the fridge and found out my eggs spoiled

[fading current]

Rewind time. They’ll be fine after.

[umbral willow]

Technically before

[zenith jacinth]

After rewinding time

[amber terrace]

Who has the more toxic fanbase, BTS at their peak or On-Lyne at their peak?

[balmy storm]

On-Lyne fans were pretty toxic on KIM back in the day, I’d go as far as to say some acted like monsters. Said some weird stuff too, like threatening to eat people?? That’s pretty awful

[zenith jacinth]

Still not as bad as bts

[balmy storm]

LOL

[gray remnant]

BTS, easily.

[runic mantle]

real

[proper axle]

spent way too long on this but here was what was in my head while playing New War

[eternal flume]

all ma homies hate ball ass

[teal crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-margulis-orokin-ballas-natah-gif-5544434714955435909

[whole prawn]

Any time given for new release of oraxia?

[tropic venture]

just June

[whole prawn]

No specifix?

[nova harness]

With the update

DE don't give release times

[whole prawn]

They are always vague on the release.

[nova harness]

And there's a good reason for that

[whole prawn]

I understand i am just excited for her

Anyhow thanks anyway have a fantastic night

[nova harness]

And when the update releases you can get her

[torn wasp]

I can't wait for spooder...

[torn folio]

Do we know what the upcoming augment mods will do? (For Kullvero, Citrine, Jade, and Caliban)

[torn wasp]

I'm assuming for caliban it would either be for his summons? Or his stomp ability.

And for jade probably her eyes or 1st

[hearty pendant]

we know about caliban's as it was made on the experimental devstream
nothing on the others afaik
iirc his 1 i think? sucks enemies in and teleports the ranged sentients to the pile after. gives them a temp fire rate buff at the same time

[lucid blaze]

just started the hex

rusalka called me "kiddo", wonder what that could mean

nvm it's meant to be obvious BRUH

surely there is no political subtext here

[steep totem]

Not sure that's a reference to a particular political movement
Making a country great again is a fairly common theme among lots of movements
Germany following the first World War, for example

[wary osprey]

nanomachine son

[slim totem]

Not sure if this is the correct place to talk about it. But we are all in agreement from the tennocon stuff that the next arc is sentients again, right? Maybe hopefully the beginning of travelling to the Tau system?

[steel mantle]

|| we are so going to have a sun tileset or something after that tennocon teaser ||

[obtuse gyro]

I think especially in this global climate that specific phrase is definitely going to trigger recollection of that specific party's leaning

[quick smelt]

||Imagine we get to Tau via needing to go to the sun to get the Ship, or to at least scan it to somehow build a new one||

[night grail]

Is this a sunspot

[nova harness]

Probably

I wonder if the next update because it showed the sun is gonna be about the implications of Ballas trying to have it eaten

[dusk stratus]

well
it's along those lines

the tennocon relay is murex themed

this expansion is about the journey to Tau
and maybe even going there ourselves

[balmy storm]

At most l can see it leading towards that but not going there yet

Like how Whispers was large in of itself but lead us towards 1999

[dusk stratus]

yeah like
we have to beat Wally in New War 2: Newer and Warrier
then we can go on vacay to Tau

[balmy storm]

Eh, it depends

If Tau is important to this arc we must go there

Also like
We have no reason to go to Tau really

[nova harness]

A Murex doesn’t automatically mean Tau as those also exist in Origin System

[balmy storm]

Yeah

“Tau. If that's where Entrati is headed, my Xipe Totec will follow him. And it's too important to let them have it.”

This is the only reason we have to go to Tau :p

[nova harness]

I’ll be following Albrecht there so I can shoot him with Aklex Prime then I’ll be dipping never to return again

[zenith jacinth]

"Tau is in sight"
-Albert Einstein albrecht entrati

[balmy storm]

“Tau. If that's where Entrati is headed, The Man in the Wall. will follow him. And it's too important to let them have it.”

[wild wind]

Praghasa node \o/

[balmy storm]

Here’s to hoping!

I’d rather that than tau atm ngl

[zenith jacinth]

I want new void nodes

We are in the void war arc after all

[wild wind]

Yeah, Praghasa Narmer node for like a year, then Tau

[nova harness]

We got new Void nodes Wally Void is like 60% of Albrechts labs

[balmy storm]

Exactly, plus if we’re getting a new quest about going to Tau I require some Yonta moments
She does know how to get there after all

[zenith jacinth]

But like actual void nodes

[balmy storm]

You got a new void node when Baro got his special mission

[zenith jacinth]

lemme deploy an extractor on 'em for argon

[nova harness]

You might’ve got new nodes if you didn’t kill the guys who made the towers

[zenith jacinth]

Nah something inbetween sanctum void areas and undercroft look. Bits of reality broken up and corrupted

[wild wind]

I see two ways of reaching Tau, both likely in different ways

[nova harness]

If you want to get technical you do get your own personal Void pocket node where you can kill enemies you have scanned

[balmy storm]

What are the two ways

[wild wind]

1. Is the void jump method, which has us taking the orbiter or railjack to Tau, possibly inside a carrier of some kind

2. Is via Duviri. Albrecht carved off a piece of it to build a copy of his lab, but it's still Duviri and the Drifter rules Duviri.

[nova harness]

Zariman
Whatever Pazuul wants to do

[wild wind]

Pazuul's plan is basically redoing Ballas's plan. Gather up all the resources in the Origin System and make one big leap through the portal

[obtuse gyro]

wheres number 3: reconstruction of the rail

[wild wind]

Would need to be reconnected on both sides

Not impossible, but I don't think the Sentients would be keen to welcome any old visitors from the Origin system

[obtuse gyro]

I think only our end is disconnected

plus we have 1x lotus to help open the path

[wild wind]

We only know that the Origin System side is broken, the state of the opposite side is completely unknown

Though, I do believe that the Sentients in Tau have been blown back to the stone age

[steep totem]

Would be sorta "funny but not" if we had a whole operation/event dedicated to reconstructing the Origin System solar rail to Tau, only to discover at the end that the Tau side is inoperative

[undone lodge]

I think their side is (or was) most likely turned off, but luckily one of the more qualified technicians just went there for his next vacation

[obtuse gyro]

Personally skeptical that the Sentients who nearly crushed the Orokin had they not lucked out on their orphan making machine using their literally neutered forces would be blown back into the stone age on their home turf

[wild wind]

The Sentients sent their most combat capable units forward with instructions to burn their path back. Meaning the ones still on Tau weren't expecting a counterstroke, and would have been less able to deal with one.

[obtuse gyro]

But what counterstroke

[wild wind]

The one the Orokin carried out in the Mag codex

[obtuse gyro]

The one where the orokin were very decidedly getting rekt when they jumped in?

[zenith jacinth]

Counterstroke: universal offensive

[wild wind]

Wrecked is a strong word if a single Mag Prime in Amesha could turn the tide

[obtuse gyro]

Lets read that entry again shall we

Because turning the tide was not what I took away from that

The only tide turned was the narrator going from "definitely dead" to "damn Im not dead yet"

[lone axle]

just watched the tennocon teaser

why did it zoom in on the sun's bitemark

[quick smelt]

Or the secret third way

Helminth the Goat carrying us once again clearly

[zenith jacinth]

It's called a sun spot

How would a constantly shifting ball of fire keep a bite mark

[night grail]

Erm it isnt made of fire

[fossil gazelle]

if you think about it, eternalism is just a large scale shrodingers cat

[deft heath]

More like Schrodinger's cat is eternalism explained

[sacred spade]

Its gonna be anti wally arc which ends up with us getting access to the void jump and going to tau

[quick smelt]

Tau when I ignore all of them solely to fill my fish tanks with new fish

[quick smelt]

Imagine
We see Tau from the ship
And then-

To be continued…

[tight pagoda]

Flare spamming their 1 on the crowd is gonna go crazy

[balmy storm]

We have no reason to go to Tau tho

Not presently anyway
Closest we have is the possibility of Albrecht being there and Wally following
Which means we will follow

[sacred spade]

I personally don't think we should go there but it seems like a possible direction for the game

[balmy storm]

Like I said, if Albrecht is going there then so will Wally and thus we will follow
Beyond the void arc we have no reason to go

The sentients have their home and they should be able to keep it

I could see a sentient rebellion requiring our assistance or Pazuul and the Archons trying to take Tau from the Lords or something, really any scenario where we have to keep the larger balance of things (especially if the destabilization of said balance puts our home at risk)

Tau def is an eventuality I think, not this year, potentially next year if Albrecht is really going there
It just makes sense to eventually go to Tau since it’s been spoken about so much and there would be so much creative freedom for what the sentients evolved into and how they changed their home

The primary crux is ofc our lack of motivation (in-universe) to go there
Which
May be solved with what they will show, my guess is something akin to whispers that slowly paves the way forward

[lone axle]

ah yes, sunspots, known for being perfectly dark, circular, gigantic in comparison to actual sunspots, and zoomed in on as if they're extremely important to a Sci fi story

[gentle cape]

on the sun's what now??

[lone axle]

go play the new war quest

[gentle cape]

i did. i still dont understand what you meant.

[hearty pendant]

praghasa was trying to eat the sun

[gentle cape]

what th is a sun's bitemark...?

[gentle cape]

ik... still doesnt clear up anything...

[lone axle]

praghasa had started according to Cy if memory serves.. either way there was a huge hole in the sun I refer to as a bite mark

[gentle cape]

...just say "the hole in the sun" then???

[hearty pendant]

v. bad picture but the bitemark in question

[lone axle]

way too big to reasonably be a sun spot

[hearty pendant]

also bite mark is funny as hell, keep saying bite mark

[gentle cape]

ah... yeah thats just a hole in the sun. couldve just said that instead of "bitemark" 😭😭😭😭

[lone axle]

and "big hole" has to many innuendos

[gentle cape]

no bc it means the sun was doing the biting & eating, not praghasa

hence my confusion

[lone axle]

honestly im surprised it hasnt healed
...this is something that would go away usually, missing mass on gravitational objects fills in a lot of the time, and sunspots dont last as long as warframe's story has progressed past TNW unless it hasn't been that long at all

which means either the time past TNW is minimal and its just a recent sunspot now (within a few months) or that bite really hurt the sun with some void magic stuff and it's the lore important bite mark that i think it is

there's a third option where a sunspot has just formed but. narratively thats boring????

[hearty pendant]

eh. the framing and its size seemed important

if it isn't the bitemark, its likely significant in some way

[lone axle]

yeah

could you imagine in the next update we get launched into the sun and suddenly we're in tau or right in wally's impenetrable void fortress or something

wouldn't that be cool????

[balmy storm]

I mean I doibt it’s the bitemark just cause
as you said, it would have healed

[lone axle]

i mean, that's if it was a normal wound

i feel like the void shenanigans ballas and Wally Actually Manifesting In The Real World for the First Time have something to do with that not being a normal wound

if it was it wouldve healed

[night grail]

It just kinda looks like a big Ole sunspot

[tight pagoda]

In this it kinda looks like the Eye of Sauron too

visually ofc, not in any literal way, not trying to imply Wally's gonna use the sun to view us or anything

he doesn't need it

[night grail]

Like we even seen 2 prominences

[quick smelt]

Or it’s just the ship floating in the spot clearly

Like a bug in a cup of water

I doubt it

[brazen ruin]

at rank 5 with the Hex. Neci got some saaaaad backrgound dude... And Velimir and Minerva is like danggg good people for that...

and I am tad creeped out by Lizzie aka Flare aka Helminth aka infestation

[zenith jacinth]

That is not entirely correct. Take flare out of that, they're not the helminth

[brazen ruin]

oh right. yeah, although from what I gather Lizzie can take over Flare's body?

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah but only if you're like. Really bad at picking dialogue options

[brazen ruin]

oooooo

gotcha

[tight pagoda]

Take care with Flare, Kaya, and Velimir/Minerva's chats. They all have "good" endings that you can lock yourself out of

[brazen ruin]

WAIT WAIT WHAAAT!!!! I was basing on chemistry gain from the wiki. Will that be alright?

[tight pagoda]

Oh you won't have to worry until later

For Flare: ||the best ending is making sure they bond with Lizzie, and the best way to bond with a guitar...|| is through ||music||

For Kaya, it's super easy: ||Just make sure you answer her question about purple crystals correctly||

[zenith jacinth]

Chemistry isn't important for the new protos

[tight pagoda]

Veliminerva's fairly intuitive, just try fixing their marriage. ||Focus on a common ground, make sure you acknowledge things that happened in the past, don't be too "Disney" with it, I guess||

[brazen ruin]

ok ok ok. Will remember this one

[tight pagoda]

If you look up "Kimulacrum" or go to browse.wf, it's a site that has all their chats mapped out with flowcharts

[brazen ruin]

As a happily married man myself, I would say their case is reaaaaly unique lol.

[brazen ruin]

Yep yep. been using that one. I usually choose the dialogue where they are not upset with my replt

[tight pagoda]

Ah, in that case just make sure you get the Booleans right

I'll quickly check what they are

Aim for "FlareLizziePeace"

[zenith jacinth]

Well they are unhappily married and I'd say it's not that unique

[brazen ruin]

gotcha

[brazen ruin]

true that

[brazen ruin]

thank you!

[bronze glen]

Yeah, that makes it even more prominent for you to get them back together

Because besides Neci? Those two only have each other

[brazen ruin]

I do hope they will get Neci back

[zenith jacinth]

They probably won't but we might

[brazen ruin]

Ahahaha, maybe in the next hex main quest update

[zenith jacinth]

Likely isleweaver

[balmy storm]

Doubt we’re getting her back in Isleweaver, it sounds like she’s more Wally than herself presently
If we get her back it’ll probably be later

But we shall see

[lucid blaze]

so uh why is natah a person if she's a sentient

when we resurrect her she's a humanoid i mean

and when she's killed she's a humanoid

[lone axle]

natah is the queen of the "mimic" class of sentient

....she can choose to look however she wants

...though she's specifically modelled after margulis.

[covert tree]

We can fix her

We have the technology

[prime raptor]

10 years later, we can revive the meme about excalibur prime being farmed on the Sun missions

On the SP Sun capture mission, the chance of getting relics of excalibur prime is 5% higher

[zenith jacinth]

(Multiplicatively, of course)

[quick smelt]

They called me a mad man
That you would never be able to get to the sun to farm excal prime

WHO IS THE FOOL NOW!?

[obtuse gyro]

we're farming excal prime?

[near quest]

No

[lone axle]

5% more of 0 is still 0

[half viper]

That isn't possible

[gray remnant]

chat, y'all got any scaldra fashion :3?

[amber terrace]

The story I cooked up for this fit is that this belonged to a Scaldra agent who’s job was to go to officers that Scaldra brass didn’t like to find dirt on the officers and inevitably put two rounds in the back of the head, ruled to be an instance of fragging

[balmy storm]

I do but i can’t post it atm

[amber terrace]

I have an interesting idea about Albrecht’s Labs

What if the Labs are normally very small/localized under the Necralisk, but given how The Indifference has annexed large portions of the Labs, what if The Indifference is chopping and splicing various bits and pieces of Albrecht’s Labs and The Indifference’s own architecture together, and that’s a potential lore explanation for the random generation of the Albrecht’s Labs tileset?

[steep totem]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the actual lore reason
Same with the Zariman

[balmy storm]

We know the labs are giant
Albrecht himself got lost in there

[amber terrace]

I completely forgor 💀 that Tagfer line exists

Does my idea still hold water?

[tight pagoda]

'Core Containment' needs an award ngl

[harsh lion]

For people who were in the raid stream, is kullervo noggle no longer a drop?

I only got virus essence and I'm confused

[balmy storm]

"That was the easy part. Now you have to find the Netracell. Albrecht left terminals coded with partial coordinates in these halls. Yeah, even he got lost down here."

[balmy storm]

Maybe some but not the small bit

Deimos in reality isn’t that big btw

[brisk island]

so like, should i max the hex rep before talking to kalymos or just do it when its available

[steep totem]

Your choice
Iirc you won't be able to move on to the next rank until you do

[brisk island]

ok

[zenith jacinth]

Do asap

[zenith jacinth]

Correct

[brisk island]

ok, gonna do it then

[gentle cape]

the whole 1999 albums + waverider do tbh

de might as well make a band called warframe atp—just use the game as a marketing tool for their music

[brisk island]

apparently we are gonna friendship is magic this nuke away. i love it

WAIT HOLD ON WHAT WAS THAT

[tight pagoda]

Narrow it down for us

A lot of crazy stuff happened there

[zenith jacinth]

Specify

[brisk island]

why did thhe giant statue make victory sign? was that drifter?

[obtuse gyro]

yes

[brisk island]

what a silly human

kinda sad that drifter's bffs are all in 1999

also did albrecht go back to current timeline?

[obtuse gyro]

we're not sure where he went

[rain otter]

We don't know.

[lucid blaze]

zero rizz whatsoever this game is so realistic

[frail parcel]

OMG LOL

[jade crypt]

BRO how can you fumble like that

[frail parcel]

im so glad i checked this server

[rain otter]

YOU CAN'T BE THIS BAD AT THIS COME ON

[balmy storm]

It really did go right over your head lmao

[jade crypt]

LMAO FR

[fading current]

Oooof

[lucid blaze]

@balmy storm i thought i'd get a funny response or something 😭

i guess it was funny in a deprecating sort of way

[brisk island]

The only time I've ever seen my family members make these cranes was for something deeply tragic like hoping for a cancer cure or sending a message to a deceased relative

[crystal agate]

fumbling aoi is insane come on

😭

all you have to do is butter her up and agree with her on everything

literally the least difficult hex member to interact with

[undone lodge]

Smh fumbling a convo with the HOAT

[gentle cape]

rip

at least its not fumbling an emotionally closed off man!! (quincy ilysm but i am Not doing all that again.)

[eternal flume]

...human?

im not sure abt that lol

[zenith jacinth]

That is an insane failure

[nova harness]

Failure Prime

[hearty pendant]

i love how spoiler chat has just been clowning on this person

[eternal flume]

Rightfully so ngl

[tight pagoda]

10+ facepalm reacts is crazy

[eternal flume]

16 😭

[obtuse gyro]

17 now

[zenith jacinth]

20

[gray remnant]

23 man

You fumbled Aoi, you deserve to be bullied

[zenith jacinth]

Honestly yeah I'm socially incompetent and even I would know that that's obviously a wrong option

[undone lodge]

Such a disgrace against the HOAT cannot be stood for

[nova harness]

<@&778745217037238293>

[arctic sonnet]

👍

[lucid blaze]

what was it

[wild wind]

Wait someone messed up Aoi's KIM

Bruh

[south fable]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-thought-it-would-be-funny-gif-25823325

[tight pagoda]

Can mods pin that holy heck

[fading current]

Right?! Look at the reaction number😭😭😭

[brisk island]

At least you learn in fiction before you go out into the world and hassle someone about their personal projects

[lucid blaze]

are you seriously implying i'd be be talking to actual people the same way as i do to a a bunch of pixels in a videogame

[brisk island]

I mean you picked that option for a reason right?

[lucid blaze]

because i wanted to see what she'd say? what's the problem

[nova harness]

Should’ve used KIMulacrum first then

[fading current]

You’ll have to reset and forget to fix that one lol

[lucid blaze]

Wdym

[hearty pendant]

they prolly mean the kimulacrum
site that lets you simulate each convo or see a flowchart of them

[nova harness]

Yeah

Science experiments on it first

Actual conversations in game after

[zenith jacinth]

That way you don't get mocked for being a bad person

[lucid blaze]

Okay "broke furry"

[tropic venture]

Relevancy?

[zenith jacinth]

What are you trying to imply

[prime raptor]

When are we going to fly to the void to rescue Minn? Tagfer is still waiting

At least add her in Duviri...

[nova harness]

She's dead Chief just hope Tagfer can use CE

[prime raptor]

Kinda like Rusalka that was returned to us in Duviri

[nova harness]

Rusalka isn't dead

[prime raptor]

Minn too!!!

She was lost in the void

[nova harness]

Minn was one of the many Cavia thrown in that wasn't brought back by Wally and died

Rusalka isn't dead at all

[prime raptor]

Teshin died outside the void, but is alive in Duviri. Minn died in the void, so she can't be dead for sure

[wild wind]

ahem

Has no one seen The Princess Bride

https://tenor.com/view/miracle-max-princess-bride-mostly-dead-all-dead-oygente-gif-12754873

[thick jolt]

Teshin didnt die tho

[wild wind]

He was resuscitated in Duviri

[thick jolt]

Some players concluded that teshin died

But his own quotes in duviri paradox indicate otherwise

[wild wind]

According to the Hermit's Landing fragments

[thick jolt]

Those too

[wild wind]

So yeah not dead

[thick jolt]

Hard to nurse a corpse back to health

[prime raptor]

In warframe you only die when DE wants to remove the character. The Rusalka was erased from reality into the void, this is quite equivalent to death, but she is alive

If DE wanted to do more than just ditch the character, there would be no problem bringing Minn back in Duviri

[wild wind]

Fairly accurate

Either way they're not going to reunite Minn and Tagfer

Because that'd require recording new Tagfer lines

[thick jolt]

You say erased from reality but considering people still remember her that feels innacurate

Rather she was basically mind controlled and kidnapped

Still different from death

[nova harness]

She wasn't you see when Wally exits her body she's still alive

[prime raptor]

Kinda... Stolen from reality

[wild wind]

It's part of a new paradox, she was present at things that happened in 1999 and left traces, but is no longer IN 1999 to do them

But anyone who knew her in 1998 still remembers her

[nova harness]

She wasn't stolen from reality at all

[prime raptor]

In our lore, the void is designed in such a way that it is impossible to simply state that someone who died there definitely died

[wild wind]

Eh, ish

The void just breaks the rules

[nova harness]

Rusalka didn't die and that is obvious by just playing the quest

[wild wind]

One of the ETA exterminates has you killing Scaldra enemies the Hex had already killed

Who'd presumably been reinserted by Wally

[prime raptor]

I agree that Rusalka didn't die. But I don't agree that Minn really died either

It's a void, how can you just die there?

[wild wind]

Same token, it's a void, how can anything exist there

No time, no matter, no thought

Pure potential energy

I just don't believe that Minn is a plot thread that'll be picked up ever

[nova harness]

Not all things need to be addressed

[thick jolt]

Well she was jetisoned into the void, and void exposure was killing the cavia
It does make quite a bit of sense

But i agree that we have no confirmation

[prime raptor]

IMO, everyone thinks that she died simply because people decided so. But from a logical point of view, you can't be sure of that. She disappeared into the void just like the Rusalka. Just like we did in the New War quest

I understand that in the New War there was a joke with realities/time lines and so on... But this is different

[thick jolt]

It isnt "just like" tho

Rusalka was warped into the void by wally, however that works

It was controlled

Minn was jetisonned into the void at random

Same void that was killing the cavia

Same void that was described by albrecht as not being positive

The examples we have of people surviving in the open void involve special pockets of the void(duviri, granum void)

[prime raptor]

I believe, killed because they were coming back from it. I don't believe that it is possible to simply die in the void, and not just become part of it

[thick jolt]

Could be a possibility yeah

But what we do have confirmed doesnt exactly point at anything pleasant

[wild wind]

I don't think that there's much distinction between dying in the void and dying from void exposure

The Cavia came back because Loid did some stuff to try and stop them from dying

The Zariman ghosts in fact aren't the originals who DID die

[prime raptor]

Of course, my assumption that she is alive has almost less arguments than the fact that she is dead, and about this we can only judge because Cavia kinda thinks so

[wild wind]

Heck, Albrecht needed to be reconstructed from the skeleton and roasted flesh that remained of him after his direct void exposure

Like, it almost killed him through his Orokin immortality

[prime raptor]

We don't know yet if Albrecht is Albrecht, or if he is also a demon of the void

[nova harness]

We very much do

[prime raptor]

Perhaps he never returned from the void

[nova harness]

Albrecht is being paranoid

Albrecht is the one who came back

[prime raptor]

Why? Because he's fighting against the man in the wall?

[nova harness]

He's afraid

“The first scholar looked into the void and he feared it and his fear took shape do you understand that's how all this started”

[wild wind]

it actually is possible that he is a perfect void derived clone of the original Albrecht, but if you have a clone THAT perfect it is in effect the original person

[obtuse gyro]

Kinda? Like ironically his resolve to combat wally is what deems him the most likely to be the real™️ albrecht

[wild wind]

Star Trek transporter rules

[obtuse gyro]

yea if its a 1:1 perfect clone, then in reality all you did was a lousy ship of theseus experiment

[nova harness]

We know it was Albrecht that came back but Albrecht is too paranoid to think for a moment that it is him that came back

[prime raptor]

In that case, this is too obvious and primitive a plot. Why can't he be the man in the wall who is just luring the drifter/operator in this way?

[wild wind]

We actually do know that Wally is after him

[nova harness]

Because he is a human being who existed before the man in the Wall

[wild wind]

Like, the void can manifest things that Wally can't control

[zenith jacinth]

Because wally doesn't want to lure the operator? And he didn't even care about drifter until the 1999 quest

[wild wind]

Duviri itself for example

[prime raptor]

And where is the proof that it is still him? Other than how it just seemed that way to us based on his behavior. Why, for example, does he have the same smile as the man in the wall?

[nova harness]

0 Void powers
Bleeds blood
Rarely smiles

[zenith jacinth]

That moment in witw was wally

[prime raptor]

So teenagers are also Albrechts?

[nova harness]

No

[obtuse gyro]

Why can't he be the man in the wall who is just luring the drifter/operator in this way?
So... whats up with the scene in the hex where it was just Wally and Albrecht?

like the only "audience" was you the player not you the drifter

[prime raptor]

When the plot proves to us that Albrecht is real, then I will believe it, but now we are chasing a ghost that we know nothing about

[obtuse gyro]

woah woah woah answer my question first broski

[nova harness]

The plot does prove it was Albrecht

Don't you remember the interrogation scene in 1999

[prime raptor]

Are you talking about where Rusalka interrogated Albrecht?

[nova harness]

Albrecht was being interrogated by Wally

[obtuse gyro]

yeap

so like, if albrecht is wally, and rusulka is puppeted by wally, but only the two of them were present in that room, what was the point?

[nova harness]

Plus Albrecht bled
Said to Wally his weakness
Would be pointless for Wally to say that to himself

[prime raptor]

Just like in the quest "whispers in the walls" the demons of the void in the forms of Albrecht and the operator communicated for no reason

[nova harness]

The Albrecht at the end of Whispers had black eyes and was just Wally

The Albrecht in 1999 didn't have black eyes

[obtuse gyro]

Hang on hang on

they were speaking in tandem together

they were in agreement, because they were both wally

but specifically in the hex, to no one but the real player, they were in disagreement

[nova harness]

Wally making clones of himself has been shown multiple times

[obtuse gyro]

if albrecht was wally, why would he arbitrarily disagree with himself with no one watching?

as compared to his clones playing finish the sentence with each other

[nova harness]

The Albrecht at end of Whispers had black eyes

The actual Albrecht in 1999 didn't

[prime raptor]

Overall, I am not convinced by this interrogation

[nova harness]

Why?

You literally see that Albrecht didn't have black eyes

[obtuse gyro]

ok simply put: if you believe albrecht to be wally tricking and manipulating the operator/drifter, then what was the purpose of the interrogation? Who was he tricking?

[nova harness]

Also why would Albrecht build the Vessels to fight himself?

There are just so many things proving that Albrecht isn't Wally

[zenith jacinth]

The only thing disproving it is albrecht himself being pointlessly paranoid

[nova harness]

And literally everything Albrecht has done plus his eyes

[graceful mango]

transference in: There, Eleanor's got you

heart: melts

[fossil gazelle]

ngl velimir is based

[lucid blaze]

Who the hell is Minn

Is she from the drifter quest after new war

[balmy storm]

Did you not play whispers or interact with the cavia???

[balmy storm]

No.

[lucid blaze]

I did play whispers but I did not talk to the animal guys

Is it one of them?

[balmy storm]

She was yes

[lucid blaze]

OHHH

Oh nvm

[nova harness]

She died

[balmy storm]

:p

Play through the cavia faction

[nova harness]

This is why you should rank up

[lucid blaze]

I thought it was Albrecht's daughter so I said "OHHHH"

He has a daughter right I didn't mishear it

[rain otter]

Albretchs daughter is mother

[lucid blaze]

Isn't she orokin???

[nova harness]

Yes

[rain otter]

Albretch is orokin.

[lucid blaze]

He looks normal?

[rain otter]

Orokin isn't a race

It's just they change their bodies to look like that and skin

They can look however they want.

[lucid blaze]

Lameee

[balmy storm]

Anyone can become an Orokin

[rain otter]

You @lucid blaze can even get the funny blue skin color for your character.

[balmy storm]

Ordan was given the opportunity but said nah iirc

[rain otter]

In the focus shop.

[nova harness]

90% of the stuff Albrecht owned is gold because he is Orokin

[rain otter]

Also I think it's what the trail rooms where supposed to he about.

[lucid blaze]

Yeah I know I wanna be normal though

[mental echo]

she got actually negative rizz

fish react her

[balmy storm]

Albrecht got new skin too

[lucid blaze]

Whitening cream

[rain otter]

@lucid blaze also how did you think continuity worked?

[lucid blaze]

As in story continuity or?..

[rain otter]

Yes

[balmy storm]

Nah it’s cause of his boyfriend regrowing his skin

[rain otter]

Loid is a doctor

[lucid blaze]

What about story continuity???

[nova harness]

Giving him new skin

[balmy storm]

Continuity as in the process the Orokin went through
Not story continuity

[balmy storm]

And new eyes
And new vocal cords

[rain otter]

Okay Orokin change bodies how would they keep looking like Orokin?

[lucid blaze]

I didn't even know that's a thing

[nova harness]

And a reason to live

[balmy storm]

How?

[rain otter]

What did you think the Queens where doing to you?

[nova harness]

Did you pay attention to the story?

[lucid blaze]

Trying to steal my Warframe or something?

[rain otter]

Be nicer

[balmy storm]

No…

[lucid blaze]

Somewhat

I was not paying that much attention during that quest as wf's story is very hit or miss

[balmy storm]

Continuity is the process of essentially bodysnatching someone, moving your consciousness into their body, killing their consciousness
The Orokin did it all the time

[rain otter]

No the Queens wanted you to be the "Elder" (even though they are twins) Yuvan which is the body a Orokin continuities into when they get old.

[balmy storm]

Shoulda paid more attention tbh

[lucid blaze]

Oh yeah I remember that

[rain otter]

Also the Queens are Orokin just in grinner bodies.

[lucid blaze]

Yeah that I knew

[nova harness]

One of the queens flat out says we wanted the orphan child, not it’s infested puppet

[rain otter]

The whole part in the like mind palace mountain and you getting new powers is so you can fight off the Queen from like taking over your mind and body.

[balmy storm]

Maybe a replay through the main story is in order
You’ll get more back to back info and things will click more

[lucid blaze]

I'll pass

[balmy storm]

You can also go read the lore pc in the labs for a recap

[balmy storm]

Alternatively
Watch someone play through it

[lucid blaze]

Warframe has excellent worldbuilding but the story is not as amazing as people say it is

[rain otter]

Also Mother is the narrator i duviri cuz she wrote the tales of Duviri.

[nova harness]

Alternatively
Read Orokin Archives

[balmy storm]

Hard disagree

[lucid blaze]

I knew that voice was familiar...

[balmy storm]

If they don’t have the will to replay through the quests I doubt they’d want to read them either

[nova harness]

That's subjective tbh

[balmy storm]

^

[lucid blaze]

Point being?

[balmy storm]

It’s def gotten better over time but I do enjoy Warframe’s story
But as they’ve said
Subjective

[lucid blaze]

There are many issues I had with some story elements that I can't be bothered to explain

[nova harness]

You're presenting it as fact when that's your opinion not an actual fact

[lucid blaze]

You might have reading comprehension issues

[nova harness]

I really don't

[lucid blaze]

I never stated that the story is bad nor did I ever state that my opinion is fact

[nova harness]

You said “the story is not as amazing as people say it is”

That's an opinion, not a fact don't present it as such

[tribal pond]

https://tenor.com/view/im-feeling-a-little-tension-clive-schitts-creek-awkward-uncomfortable-gif-20848114

[lucid blaze]

I could even argue that it is fact

[balmy storm]

It’s not

It’s subjective
So
Let’s not do this.

[lucid blaze]

Because people like to make it sound as if Warframe's story is a flawless masterpiece

[nova harness]

Nobody says that

[lucid blaze]

Which it very much isn't

[lucid blaze]

That's not true

[balmy storm]

Let’s not have a pointless argument about a subjective opinion

[covert tree]

It's not it has flaws like occasionally being hard to understand

[lucid blaze]

In any case I'll go do something actually productive ciao

[lone axle]

ah yes, grandmother

Dagath the orokin who erased her name

[nova harness]

That flaw is debatable many just don't pay attention and skip cutscenes then call it hard to understand

[lone axle]

there are some things i personally find annoying
operation lore being hidden, for one

[nova harness]

Yeah that's true

Orokin Archives does have all the operations luckily

[lone axle]

yes but realistically how many people on their own are gonna know orokin archives exists without someone telling them

[nova harness]

Even if they don't
Wiki also has them

[lone axle]

true
eh idk
not the biggest fan of explaining why alad v got infested and then got uninfested every time i get someone into the game

schrodinger's warframe boss is funny though
"i do not know if the boss is alive or dead unless i look inside the box"

"You have loyalty issues, Tenno."

"shut up"

[tribal pond]

I'm telling you! Warframe lore channels get so redundantly heated lol

[nova harness]

Usually because people say dumb things

[lone axle]

also dying on a hill youve believed for many years is something people often do in fandoms unless proven wrong

sometimes even if

[nova harness]

Some people choose to stay willfully ignorant

[rain otter]

I would say it's actually pretty chill 90% of the time.

[tribal pond]

It's like everytime i've lurked

[lone axle]

"i dont know the meaning of willfull ignorance and im not going to find out" -xavier from xra

[thick jolt]

Bad timing then, i have been around for both the good and the bad

[lone axle]

^^
most of the time its somewhat constructive for my understanding of warframe

there's usually at least one contrarian though

[nova harness]

Us main lore people really be watching all the time

[tribal pond]

No there isn't

[thick jolt]

I am just chronically bored

[nova harness]

Same

Waiting for Isleweaver to give us more lore

[lone axle]

honestly im waiting for more of albrecht's voice to go along with it
why are the orokin's voices so good aaargh

[thick jolt]

One more lab to ransack for all it's knowledge

[lone axle]

well warframe in general but albrecht made me understand old man yaoi

[tribal pond]

Warframe in general has some really strong voice actors

Which is great considering it's not all A-list actors, gives some good work to others

[tribal pond]

True!

[zenith jacinth]

Got the letters mixed up

[lone axle]

anyhow wish me luck
if i get my level 5 lich combo wrong again im ejecting myself out of the nearest airlock

[eternal flume]

Before I started whispers, someone mentioned the ending was “we kick Wally’s robot’s ass with our robot” to which someone replied “no, it was a lot gayer”
The original person said “true, loid was there, everything’s gayer with him around”
I didn’t understand what they meant, I only knew loid as the robot. I do now.

They were right tho lol

[rain otter]

Hehehehe

[lone axle]

lollllll

i wish we got to fight with the vessels
love is really good though i like how warframe handles the power of friendship

[rain otter]

I think we might later

Or I hope we will be able to.

The end of 1999 does have us using one.

[nova harness]

You did get to fight with the vessel you gave Wally Emotional Damage

[rain otter]

People want more of that

Also to be fair that was mostly press E

[lone axle]

i will say

it's gonna be a good time if we can bullet jump when (if) we get full control

i also want to be able to customize

[rain otter]

Like give me a New War Style Section with the vessel.

[rain otter]

Okay the 2 things you just asked for I don't think we will get.

I think New War Style segment in a quest would be possible

[nova harness]

Vessels can't bullet jump that’s only a Warframe thing

[rain otter]

Could teshin bullet jump?

[lone axle]

the vessels are warframes, no?

[nova harness]

No

[lone axle]

just.... titanic

[rain otter]

No.

They aren't a person. Also they have more like

Electronics.

[hearty pendant]

vessels would be too big to bullet jump i think
and they don't really seem like something to be used outside of quests, so i doubt customization

[nova harness]

Teshin had to use the Orvius to get around to destroy the things in New War

[rain otter]

Vessels do have infested and are pretty squishy inside but Albretch seems to br trying to actually build like giant people with brains and hearts and stuff.

[eternal flume]

I hate glaives

[rain otter]

Where as a warframe takes a person and modifys themm

[lone axle]

1. al's notes on the vessels

2. sighhhhhh no bullet jumping

[rain otter]

No I know.

[eternal flume]

Wouldn’t giant vessels be nowhere near mobile enough to bullet jump

[rain otter]

They aren't just big warframes though.

[nova harness]

They're too big for Bullet jump

[lone axle]

yeah yeah

i just think it would be neat !!

[nova harness]

They're made to slap Wally not be a mech

[lone axle]

the thing that gives me any kind of hope for customization is the feminine vessels in other parts of the lab

probably nothing to be concerned with though idk

[nova harness]

Aren't the female ones we see incomplete?

[lone axle]

yes

...the kalymos sequence (after WITW and during 1999) was rebuilding them iirc

[nova harness]

To finish them we gonna have to drag Albrecht back

[lone axle]

"Protect the Vessels. Repair. Rebuild." -loid

"albrecht please give more instructions to the fish. also come back to the present a certain cervulite wants to meet you "

i am curious as to why al needed the energy of a nuke to escape 1999

[nova harness]

The “bomb” probably cut a hole in the loop giving him enough time to get out

[lone axle]

also is anyone else glad that of all the lost islands to put in the game it's scholar's landing we're getting in isleweaver

[tribal pond]

Thats albrechts correct?

[rain otter]

Yes

[lone axle]

considering the scholar was most likely him yeah

[hearty pendant]

who else would it be? albrecht talks about visiting duviri and his alchemy stuff is there from the labs

[lone axle]

albrecht is 99.999999% probably the scholar but there's always the option of being blindsided by DE with someone else

[nova harness]

The first Scholar looked into the Void and he feared it

It just is Albrecht

[lone axle]

true
...sorry im a natural skeptic lol

my number 1 flaw when analyzing lore (thanks, toby fox)

[hearty pendant]

that isn't a bad thing, just has to be applied in the right places lol

[zenith jacinth]

It was not. The sequence is complete. The vessels are not.

[lone axle]

what was the sequence for if not the completion of the vessels??

is it just grabbing albrecht from 1999????

[zenith jacinth]

Apparently

[wild wind]

The vessels are being prepped for something else

We don't know what, yet

[amber terrace]

Pardon my confusion, I thought Albrecht’s Notes said that the Vessels were made to fight Indifference/Murmur Creations?

[zenith jacinth]

Originally, yes

[amber terrace]

Ah, thanks for the heads up : )

[tight pagoda]

Maybe color swaps at most, like the Cavia

[lucid blaze]

what the sigma does this even mean

[hearty pendant]

your bond with the hex.
have to collect them all to revisit new year's eve

[lucid blaze]

ooh that's what i assumed

oh hey

ayo i'm going saiyan

[south fable]

Umbilical cord

[lone axle]

1. i dont like the fact that the techrot is tracking the drifter's DNA

2. the dna is void-stained (i want to examine my drifter under a microscope now)

3. my new coda isnt ready for this

[lone axle]

update: they absolutely were ready i am in so much pain

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-movie-oh-no-they-were-ready-for-that-lakers-shaq-oh-no-gif-9000633666106640763

[half sandal]

so may i ask for some help to understand the whole 1999 bs and Mr entrati?

[nova harness]

What’s confusing about it?

[half sandal]

Who is Albrecht exatcly?

[tropic venture]

Albrecht Entrati, he's the one who first encountered The Indifference, and whose discoveries led to the creation of all Void tech, enabling the Orokin to leave Earth

he's the father of Eularia Entrati (Mother)

[nova harness]

You can learn more about him on Deimos

[tropic venture]

yeah, his Requiem logs are behind the Necraloid in the Necralisk

[half sandal]

geez i really feel sad for his wife

[tropic venture]

We know nothing about her

[half sandal]

u didnt get the joke man

but whatever so hes an orokin too?

[tropic venture]

yes

the Entrati were an esteemed, but somewhat isolated, Orokin family

[half sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/albrecht-entrati-gif-3191941303944791684

ill be real

hes the most human looking dude in all of warframe

[tropic venture]

well he went through a full regeneration following his Void incident

[half sandal]

what incident?

[tropic venture]

Here's a portrait of him looking like a more typical Orokin

[half sandal]

i kinda wanna give him the ballas threathment now

[tropic venture]

The one where he first met The Indifference, which is also how the Reliquary came to be, leading to the invention of Void tech as a whole

the Requiem logs explain this

[half sandal]

i should really listen more when the old pale dude is talking

[nova harness]

You should listen all the time when lore is being spoken to you

[tropic venture]

He's still very blue compared to Loid

[half sandal]

dude i was just thinking about Elenoar when he was talking

she confused me more

[tropic venture]

what about her is confusing

[half sandal]

shes a telepath, shes creepy and she tongued the Josuke looking woman at the last mission in hex

[nova harness]

What’s confusing about that?

[tropic venture]

yes, she got the Nyx strain

hence the telepathy

[half sandal]

idkj

i like thinking abt warframe woman

DE makes them pretty

[nova harness]

Should be listening to what’s being said to you rather than Warframe women

[half sandal]

cant

i love women

https://tenor.com/view/aoi-warframe-dancing-cute-protoframe-gif-2090171918749013921

[frail parcel]

<@&778745217037238293>

[thick jolt]

"Thinking"

[wise solstice]

Underrated mission:
Deadlock Protocol
Protea dropped the coldest time manipulation user quote
“I am your beginning… I am your end… entwined forever…”

[wise solstice]

For me it’s Amir that I like

[half sandal]

what else i should do

[half sandal]

hes funny

[wise solstice]

And relatable

[wise solstice]

Any opinions?

||“Amar thought himself a hunter… but he’s now Amir trophy”
-The Lotus||

[eternal flume]

I hated deadlock ngl

[wise solstice]

I mean it’s a short mission

And the lines were kinda repetitive, but other than that, it was good

[steep totem]

Only part I hated was that stupid spy mission
Otherwise, one of the best quests imo

[eternal flume]

I had operator form so I didn’t mind that part

I didn’t like the void part

Protea fight

I don’t like glaives in general but the xoris detonate wasn’t doing anything half the time

I spent so much time on really low energy and shields trying to figure out why tf it wasn’t canceling her rewind while she can kill me in three shots

[steep totem]

I would just run away to charge the Xoris after each rewind
Then fight Protea
For some reason, she mostly stayed in one place for me

Only issue I had was encountering a glitch that made Protea freeze mid-rewind
I was on the last health bar too
Had to restart the mission

That stupid spy mission though...
I'm a little better now, but back then I didn't do well at Corpus Spy

[zenith jacinth]

Didn't pay attention when they told you you have to charge it first eh

[eternal flume]

I think I charged it and then accidentally wasted it before the rewind and didn’t realize

You needed the star things right

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[wise solstice]

Hilarious tbh

“NoThatmustbeadifferentson”
-Nef Anyo in an embarrassed voice

[zenith jacinth]

Hey wanna know something weird about nef

[wise solstice]

What

[wise solstice]

Broooo

How 😭

[zenith jacinth]

Right

It's so unexpected

[wise solstice]

“Nothatmustbeadifferentson…”
Nef

[half light]

bro was almost crying when he said that

[balmy badger]

Dude's voice has got some serious range.

[undone lodge]

(The Drifter giving Amir an Archon Shard from Amar as a birthday present)

[pastel frost]

Uh...
which one of these is correct?
(same page of the new wiki)

[rain otter]

Left.

Both are true just the left one is newer.

[pastel frost]

someone should throw the other one out

[rain otter]

Also it's not caches really it's just mission rewards but anyway.

[wise solstice]

Real

[zenith jacinth]

No, because it was vaulted for a while

[tight pagoda]

Some people have gotten their Warframe thumbnail as Isleweaver

Hopefully that means the update's soon

[reef arrow]

oh neat

[fading current]

Next 2 weeks I’d imagine lol

[zenith jacinth]

I need spooder

[reef arrow]

ive already got clan lore for oraxia

able to be rewritten if her lore is deeper than "ballas made her, she went insane"

[zenith jacinth]

I like spiders as long as they don't sneak up on me

[fading current]

Oh???👀👀

[reef arrow]

she and caliban work together to hunt down narmer. while caliban wants vengeance on narmer and to make an example of them, oraxia wants dinner in the form of archons.
Oraxia eats archon shards, is the headcanon. it comes from a dream i had

[zenith jacinth]

"It was revealed to me in a dream"

Funny that that sometimes just works

[fading current]

Any specific reason she craves archon shards???

[reef arrow]

i can come up with something depending on the lore we get on isleweaver

i have some prepped like she craves strength or she seeks to use the anti-entropic energies to reverse the madness she was afflicted with. but she may get super in depth lore in isleweaver and i gotta change some things

[zenith jacinth]

Mosquito logic, needs archon energy to lay iggs

[reef arrow]

also possible

[tight pagoda]

It's basically conceptual embodiment

[tight pagoda]

Hopefully sooner than that. Tomorrow, ideally. Only saying that for my sake, I'll be gone on the 25th for a month-long trip around NYC and then to London for TennoCon, and I'd like to play the update on my PS5, but I'm planning on taking my laptop w/ me so I'll still be able to enjoy it

[wild wind]

god please this week or two weeks from now

just not next week since I have plans 😂

[tight pagoda]

I hope we just get a date at tonight's Devshort

[fading current]

Same here. Would be nice to know so I can plan accordingly lol

[wild wind]

I almost wonder if they're prepping for a "RIGHT NOW" reveal

[reef arrow]

they already PULLED that trick with 1999

[fading current]

Would be nice of them to pull it again lol

[neat aspen]

I just played 1999 and WTF WAS THAT ENDING!!??

[hearty pendant]

hit em with the begin again

[lucid blaze]

guys does this mean i can finally start "sex the hex" quest?

[covert tree]

Everyone dies the end

Or is it?

[tight pagoda]

||There's more||

[undone lodge]

Get to Rank 3 Syndicate and relationships and you unlock a do-over

[lucid blaze]

So how long has sex been canon in Warframe

Important lore questions

[undone lodge]

10,000 BCE

Before then all reproduction happened through the technocyte’s ancestor, the paleolithophage

It eventually mutated into the neolithophage, and gained it’s body altering capabilities, which is how creatures actually developed the necessary organs

You can find this lore in a cave on the Plains with a skeleton with a rotting wooden club and furs on it

Trust

[lone axle]

why can i find ayatan sculptures in hollvania

this feels weird, just like jade light eximus being here

[nova harness]

Ludonarrative dissonance

[lone axle]

that's what's happening not the deeper reason behind it lol

like gameplay, sure, but why havent i seen a single ayatan star here if theres gonna be sculptures

[nova harness]

A lore reason could be Albrecht brought them to 1999 though tbh since he brought Heminth to 1999 and the gold stuff that's in your backroom

[lone axle]

well
considering they're basically space cameras... sure??

the jade eximus thing's bothered me since day one though, even though parvos knows how to speak Wallese

[nova harness]

Jade Eximus are purely gameplay too

Not everything in Warframe has a lore reason

[lone axle]

im surprised that more people dont mention eximus in lore, though, since they do exist in lore

...or maybe parvos retconned them into lore?

still im. kinda half-okay with not everything needing a reason

[nova harness]

Jade Eximus are the only Eximus with lore them in 1999 doesn't have lore because Parvos wouldn't have even been born during events of 1999

[lone axle]

the part of my brain looking for lore's always looking for a reason

also yeah he was born into the orokin empire, yeah?

[nova harness]

Yeah

During Orokin era sometime

[lone axle]

definitely not during our lifetimes, since rubedo probably doesn't exist as a resource yet

irl it's the latin word for redness

[lucid blaze]

Gameplay reasons probably. Other Warframes shouldn't be there either but it's a co-op game so hey

[lone axle]

you missed the entire conversation im having before typing that didnt you

[lucid blaze]

Probably

Reading is for nerds

[lone axle]

then why are you in the nerd channel

lmao

[lucid blaze]

Next question

[undone lodge]

Albrecht asking the Drifter what happened to the copies of his and Loid’s photo album

[lone axle]

said drifter with a newly ranked archon continuity, avoiding the question:

[balmy storm]

Wdym other warframes shouldn’t be there?
We travelled via the infestation and the backroom is fitted with an arsenal

Like we easily can recreate any frame as is and we have a foundry in 1999
As soon as we gain access to the backroom it’s not difficult to have other frames

[nova harness]

Even has Helminth for the material

[balmy storm]

Exactly

[lucid blaze]

i meant other players

[nova harness]

There's a difference between other players and other Warframes

We the Tenno and Drifter are not the frame we control it remotely so you have to be specific when saying that

[balmy storm]

As far as we know other players in 1999 may be canon
It’s not a Duviri situation where other Drifters are weird
It’s never specified ofc but it’s possible the chosen Operator (collectively “us”) opened the “floodgates” for their fellow tenno to utilize the vessels to make their way to the past
It is a tricky slope cause 1999 is mostly about just the Drifter and ofc, as I said I don’t think it’s specified? Maybe in the pvpve gamemode?

[undone lodge]

Amir: "All the girls I've dated, they both said I'm the fastest. So it should come as no surprise that my squad is winning."

Amir daters devastated

[undone lodge]

Yeah Faceoff doesn’t really specify anything

There’s this:

Aoi: "Okay squad, you are the biggest, baddest warriors under Sol. You're gonna go out there and you're gonna be faster than lightning. And then the lightning will make us a pizza."

But that could just be peptalk or a metaish reference

[balmy storm]

At most that’s acknowledgement
At least it’s what you just said

[undone lodge]

There’s also this

Aoi: "Squad, time to head home."
But that’s been used in a non-literal sense plenty of times, and it’s not like other Operators would be taking up residence in the mall unless they’ve set up a secret ventkids branch we haven’t found yet

[balmy storm]

I can see the chosen operator reaching out, leading more tenno towards the labs and all that
Heck we know at the least the netracells aren’t done alone so other tenno do know of the labs

Plus with Lotus being out on the edge of the wall?
And her being the mother to all tenno?
Yeah other tenno showing up, seeing the situation and wanting to help is more than plausible

[nova harness]

Warframe players are still terrible at telling the difference between gameplay and canon

[steep totem]

But... gameplay is canon
isn't it?
Surely, if it's in the game, it must be canon

[undone lodge]

Not really

[steep totem]

Or a cannon, but that happens less often tbh

[balmy storm]

Warframes in canon don’t have energy
Warframes in gameplay do have energy

[nova harness]

Stalker still comes after us because weapons need a source to still be dropped

Acolytes show up still even after getting destroyed in the old event because gameplay

Jade Eximus show up in 1999 or Eximus in general because gameplay

Multiple Drifters exist in Duviri squads because gameplay

[balmy storm]

Well Stalker still isn’t our ally and he does still hate us-

Tentative ally at best

[steep totem]

And here I thought Yareli ran out of energy in The Waverider comic
Which was why the slaver caught up to her

Maybe I'm just remembering that wrong

[balmy storm]

Nah she’s just the physically weakest frame 😭
I hate that comic so much

[nova harness]

Tbh he didn't actually say he forgave us did he

[balmy storm]

As a newfound Yareli lover I hate that comic

[balmy storm]

Nope, we helped him in a big way and he comes to show respect and to mourn when we send Jade’s motes off but that’s about it

[balmy storm]

Oh also Jade eximus show up before you even get to Jade Shadows lmao

[undone lodge]

Fun fact, the Yareli song isn’t just meant to represent Yareli and Ballas, but also the writer of the song (A Yareli fan) and the comic

[steep totem]

My first Jade Eximus encounter was during Jade Shadows
explain that one to me, DE. I dare you

[balmy storm]

Some people got a jade eximus DURING the cutscene where Stalker walks to his landing craft

[nova harness]

I just think her quest should’ve been apart of Vox Solaris instead

[balmy storm]

I think it was placed where it was due to needing to know what a frame is (sacrifice) and having some bits on the stalker already (second dream)

[steep totem]

Nah, mine was in one of the missions in the beginning
Forgot if it was the Corpus Spy or the second one

[balmy storm]

I like it’s placement but it is a bit weird that Jade Eximus can spawn before
But
Nothing can be done

[balmy storm]

Lmaoo

[nova harness]

Could remove it from the game so people stop asking Ludonarrative stuff

[balmy storm]

Lmao

[zenith jacinth]

Wait that's not a hard-coded thing like the student with the unusually vibrant hair?

[balmy storm]

That is not a hard coded thing no
It also just
Doesn’t make sense lore-wise lol

Jade Eximus don’t exist until Jade dies

[pliant saffron]

New baro slots, one roll a visit with duplicate protections, for 50k creds

[balmy storm]

Legendary tier is legendary core and ki’teer signa btw

[pliant saffron]

If it's how I think it'll be, it'll be a 9 month cycle (like kuva weapons)

[thick jolt]

You mean coda?

[pliant saffron]

No, coda is on a store system, the kuva system is rolling enemies till the weapon you want is set to drop

[thick jolt]

But kuva weapons are incredibly easy and quick to cycle

I am a bit lost

[pliant saffron]

But the baro roll is a one time per visit roll, which is on a 2 week cycle. Dividing that by the reward count, which is 18, as far as I know, sets us on a 9 month cycle for getting every possible reward

[nova harness]

Kuva weapons don't take 9 months to cycle

[pliant saffron]

Please reread my comment. The baro slots are a one time roll per visit

[amber terrace]

If I am to pester, did we get a confirmation of when Isleweaver is coming out?

[nova harness]

No

[thick jolt]

No

[pliant saffron]

Only a not this week

[steep totem]

No

[pliant saffron]

In all likelihood it'll be at the end of the weekend alerts, likely the 25th

[gray remnant]

Okay good, I'll be able to get my Valk prime to level 30 before the update.

[amber terrace]

Diabolical

[gray remnant]

I do unironically want to see even more protoframe skins, even if non-cannon.

[cosmic prawn]

It'd be nice, but I get why DE are setting them aside for the moment. The additional VA expense per skin probably adds up, and it seems wasteful to not have any narrative with them.

[covert tree]

DE can make more when and if they want to it's up to them

[wild wind]

Protoframes have been a huge success for DE no matter how you care to measure

But they're trying not to flood the zone

And they want to advance the story past 1999

[rain otter]

i think the dagath prime will be her with a ghost face.

[wild wind]

Speaking of skins though, time for more voidshells

[mighty valley]

i seem to recall DE saying something about not planning on doing more voidshells

[hearty pendant]

they were put on hold to focus on the gemini skins but i don't know if we've heard anything about them since

[half light]

Why though ? They can't take that much work, right ?

[zenith jacinth]

[wild wind]

Skins are a lot more work than you'd think

While the model carries over, you have to swap the mesh and make sure there's no weirdness from the materials, develop a new material to go with it, and test that on the existing voidshells

[thick jolt]

Scheduling VAs and the extra mocap of the swap emote would probably be a big thing too i'd imagine

[tight pagoda]

Figured out what they're doing with Stalker's kid