spoiler-chat

[hearty pendant]

i could absolutely be wrong yeah

[frail flame]

Which is why I mentioned the different meanings, because mara is not just one set word. It is used to define many things, a mindset of different schools of Buddhism and more.
To ballas and the infestation, it is negative connotation. Mara is also the different obstacles on the wait to enlightenment, road blocks.
It is hard to explain because it is so multi faceted

[sharp karma]

What’s happening?

[nova harness]

I think the only thing Lotus has called us is Tenno and Child

[frail flame]

Yeah, she has never called us mara at all. There is a video where Reb does explain that mara is "main character" place holder name in the story

[nova harness]

Rebb also said we don't have to be called Mara and her reasoning was not everyone has a female Op or Drifter

It’s just a code thing

[zenith jacinth]

Words

[half sandal]

is there a way to abduct clem into my ship?

[tardy kindle]

The shin megami tensei team too

[balmy storm]

She has actually, Mara is spoken in her song during Lotus Eaters
Mara very likely means Child

Demon is our nickname given to us from those that hate us (Ballas, Erra) and those that fear a part of us (Helminth fearing the void/wally)
but we are called Mara by the Cavia, Wally and the Lotus
We are more so a child of the void than we are a demon of it.

[nova harness]

Does Lizzie fear us though?

[balmy storm]

Read what I said again
The infestation fears the void / wally
Not us

We carry a piece of Wally with us, he gave it to us

[nova harness]

Lizzie still doesn't seem afraid of us or Wally she's even up to eating cars

[balmy storm]

She certainly isn’t a fan of him

My point is she calls us demon, and helminth calls us demon, due to what we have not because of who we are.

[nova harness]

How to kill the Infesation

Throw them into the Void and give them a heart attack

[thick jolt]

I think the infested use demon and ballas uses devil, cant remember what erra used

[nova harness]

Devil

He copies Ballas

[zenith jacinth]

Has "the smiling one" been added to wiki name lists for wally yet

[nova harness]

Yes

[half sandal]

whats up with the worms of deimos

[nova harness]

What about them?

They just kill each other to swap between Fass and Vome

[zenith jacinth]

Updog

[covert tree]

Sibling beef

[half sandal]

they were

residents before infestation?

[zenith jacinth]

We only know that they kill each other, that's it

[undone lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-shadow-stalker-new-war-hunhow-gif-27625690

[jagged sable]

OK so Yareli prime confirmed

[night grail]

Is yareli getting a trailer

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/surfing-waves-gif-16015140

Yareli prime trailer

[balmy storm]

Yup

[night grail]

Music is banging

[nova harness]

Watch Yareli Prime not release with a Prime K-drive but a random cosmetic

[half sandal]

i just tried to start jade shadows and its saying mother trauma????????

i hate ballas already am i gonna hate him more?

[covert tree]

Yes

[half sandal]

damn

[covert tree]

It's an emotional quest for 30ish mins

[half sandal]

i might cry

i need napkins

[left slate]

You might

I was on the cusp of crying. It's great

[half sandal]

Stalker

weird char

Tenno hunter? isnt he himself a warframe? he moves like one

[covert tree]

He is a warframe

He's sentient and independent

[gentle cape]

WAIT FR????

MAN BREAKING SHACKLES.PNG (/pos)

[half sandal]

how?

[thick jolt]

#warframe-news-feed

[nova harness]

He's a Warframe that hunts Tenno

[gentle cape]

omg....... narrated prime trailers is back too or??

[nova harness]

Maybe

[covert tree]

There's a few frames with sentience

[gentle cape]

I CANT WATCH THE STREAM LIVE BC OF MY BAD WIFI I HATE IT HERE

[half sandal]

umbra is one of them

[covert tree]

Umbra...etc

[thick jolt]

Not sure, lavos also had a teaser like that

[half sandal]

hes just in a loop

[covert tree]

Yeah

[half sandal]

jade is one of them too i believe since she saved stalker

and dagath prob is too

[nova harness]

Any frame can have some level of sentience with enough emotion

[gentle cape]

yea she is... ||until she died.|| idk if youve finished jade shadows yet or not so. spoiler tag.

[half sandal]

im not opening it

i just started the quest

[nova harness]

Good

[thick jolt]

I'd argue jade is a step above umbra and stalker at maintaining her control

[half sandal]

shes an angel

bibically accurate death machine too

why does stalker hunt the tenno

and why he working under hunhow

[nova harness]

Some have walked these desolate worlds while you have slept. Some like me. I remember what you did. I remember the day.

The Tenno appeared at the Terminus, gleaming and victorious. Our cold and gold Emperors, breathless, bathed you in savior's silk. Then came the sound. Across all our worlds, all at once, the ceremonial Naga drums. A royal salute to the honored Tenno. Ten solemn beats to declare the suffering was over. I watched from a distance, with the rest of the low Guardians. With each beat terror began to crush my throat. The Tenno were not stoic and silent. They were waiting. They were poised. I tried to call out but only a strangled whisper escaped.

When the ninth beat rang a torrent of blood filled the stadium, loosed by Tenno blades. The drums, the Empire, fell silent forever.

Now I hunt, dividing your numbers. Watching from that dark place, cataloging your sins, I am the ghost of retribution. You may forget but you are not innocent.

[half sandal]

so

simplifying it
stalker was a guardian for the orokin
tenno snapped and bloodshed the stadium now he hunts them to avenge orokins?

why is he a warframe then but not a dax

[left slate]

That is when you keep playing the quest

[nova harness]

Gotta finish the quest before I say the rest

That explains why he joined Hunhow

[half sandal]

alr

[half sandal]

idk if yall still here but

sirius or orion change anyting?

[left slate]

No

As of right now

[rain otter]

No probably won't.

[half sandal]

im abt to cry ro

brocorpus letting us go after seeing the bayb was so wholesome

[night grail]

Lavos also didnt have new music afaik?

[zenith jacinth]

Probably will affect something later on

[gentle cape]

...the more i listen to velimir talk while playing him (literally became a frost main because of him), the more i see why minerva couldnt resist that terrible, godawful, rizz. "ah yeah. violence." said in a deep, just this side of gravely voice? yeah. yeah i get it maam.

they matched each other's unhinged freak.

[wild wind]

Apparently not too far off

[gentle cape]

hm...?

not to far off... of what???

[wild wind]

Why Minerva really likes him

[echo basalt]

its the jokes

[gritty flume]

romancing dem new protoframes…

seriously?

[rain otter]

You can't romance the new protos.

The reasons are "Too Young-Kaya" "Married couple-Vel and Minerva" "in a relationship with a sentient guitar-Flare." @gritty flume

[gritty flume]

ye

[balmy storm]

I think for Kaya it’s more she doesn’t want an online relationship or
Really any considering her trauma :p

[rain otter]

also that.

[balmy storm]

I think it’s mostly that tbh

The Drifter is technically like
Way way older than all of the Hex and after a certain amount of time the Hex are mentally older than their bodies (so long as we don’t reset their minds)
So
It’s an odd situation

[nocturne heath]

Ngl I'm sad its Yareli Prime. Been really hoping for Citrine Prime, but I should probably lose that hope

[nova harness]

At least it’s consenting adults

[balmy storm]

Yup!

[balmy storm]

Yareli’s next up
Not Citrine lol

[nocturne heath]

Didn't Citrine release before Yareli?

[balmy storm]

No?

Your timeline is way off

[nocturne heath]

Dang. Yeah just googled it. That does not feel like it's as far apart as it actually is

Maybe it's cause I play her so much, but she feels as old as Garuda, even tho that's not the case

[nova harness]

DE also changed the order to make Xaku Prime possible

[balmy storm]

Garuda was 2018 lol

[nocturne heath]

Ik lol that's when I first got into Warframe

[nova harness]

I swear I haven't seen a Citrine player outside of players ranking her

[nocturne heath]

She's strong af. Whenever I'm not MR leveling, she's my go-to

[hearty pendant]

i use citrine every so often for a kill x enemies with abilities challenge
when i don't feel like using garuda talons or exalted blade type things
she's fun when the circumstance calls, but i also understand low popularity
the grind prolly sours the experience somewhat as well

[nocturne heath]

Yeah the grind was atrocious for sure but with how strong she is, it's worth

Built her using all 5 archon mods and a few others

[hearty pendant]

tbh the best advice for the citrine grind is just to do a couple rounds every once in a while rather than a constant grind like with other frames

[nocturne heath]

Yeah, looking back, that's probably the best way for mental health's sake, but I grinded for like 3 days straight

[cursive merlin]

I was sick when she released. Did it all in one day for some reason💀

I should start a YouTube channel and make a series on how to not play warframe

[rain otter]

yeah so people couldn't go "XAKU IS A HE SEE" but also it was for future frames like flare.

[half sandal]

theres kissing in warframe 1999

[rain otter]

yes. even if you choose no one. well that is more of a hug.

with the cat.

[half sandal]

what

wdym cat

[balmy storm]

Kalymos

[rain otter]

yeah

if you choose no one and are best friends with everyone DE didn't want you to be left out.

[half sandal]

we kiss the cat?

[rain otter]

so you get to hug the cat.

[half sandal]

oh

okay okay that makes sense

[nova harness]

Or just if you're a fumbler like Rebb

[rain otter]

the FUMBLER no

not the fumbler.

[half sandal]

dating sim in warframe

less go
wait for me david bowie

[rain otter]

you can't date david bowie

they are in a relationship with a gutiar with she/her pronouns.

[half sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[rain otter]

what

[half sandal]

i wonder

[rain otter]

you can't date any of the new ones for the reason i gave.

[half sandal]

u can make homosexual relationships right? im not wrong

[rain otter]

also what i just said was true.

[rain otter]

that is the funniest wording.

but sure yes you can.

[half sandal]

im bad with english

[half sandal]

thats nice

[rain otter]

also the drifter doesn't really

have a gender.

[half sandal]

btw if i start 1999 am i gonna be locked in there until i finish it?

[half sandal]

i see myself as the drifter and i do

[rain otter]

is gender real for anyone?

woooooo who knows lmao.

also Flare and Temple are non-binary btw.

lizzie goes by she/her for reasons.

[nova harness]

Yes

After the quest you might not want to leave though

I sure haven't

[half sandal]

ah man

ill start it after i finish other quests

[obtuse void]

do we have any details on the upcoming prime stuff alongside yareli and kompressa?

[rain otter]

No.

We don't even know the kompressa lmao. @obtuse void

Got a cool song though.

[obtuse void]

agreed. highly agree

[zenith jacinth]

It is pretty much guaranteed

[rain otter]

Yeah

You're right.

[zenith jacinth]

A prime without the base's signature weapon is impossible

[rain otter]

But I am also right.

[zenith jacinth]

Watch DE not make kompressa prime just to spite me for saying that

[hard echo]

Wukong?

[zenith jacinth]

Wukong doesn't have a signature weapon

[hard echo]

No Wukong love 😭

[covert tree]

He has his exalted weapon atleast

[hard echo]

I guess but it feels like wukong gets nothing fancy 😂

[zenith jacinth]

He doesn't deserve anything fancy

[hard echo]

Aye

I like him

[half sandal]

man

i dont wanna do the missions but i have nothing else to do

i fear that the game will stop being entertaining without em

[gentle cape]

the main story missions or...?? bc tbh i just ignored most of the side missions.

[half sandal]

main story

also do u know where can i find jades parts?

[zenith jacinth]

Ascension

[zenith jacinth]

Quests. They're called quests

[half sandal]

same sht gang 😭

[half sandal]

and what is it

[steep totem]

Brutus, Uranus

[half sandal]

[zenith jacinth]

Well no because the regular gameplay is called missions

[steep totem]

It's a mission node unlocked by completing Jade Shadows

[half sandal]

[half sandal]

alr

is getting her parts hard?

[gentle cape]

i got her from the belly of the beast event tbh,,, i think ordis has her bps in drifter's camp...

[steep totem]

RNG based, mostly

[half sandal]

what

[steep totem]

The main blueprint is a quest reward, and the components can drop from completing Brutus

[half sandal]

yes i got the

main blueprint

[zenith jacinth]

If they haven't boosted the drop rates since release it's painfully slow

[steep totem]

But you can also buy the blueprints from Ordis using Vestigial Motes
Which also drop from Brutus

[gentle cape]

drifter's camp... on earth....... did you do the new war??

[half sandal]

ah shucks

[zenith jacinth]

Jade shadows requires tnw

[half sandal]

yes

[steep totem]

Eh, there's worse
I've tried for Citrine once

[zenith jacinth]

There is indeed worse

[half sandal]

dagath is worse????

[zenith jacinth]

Like voruna. Took me almost a week to get her

Dagath is just very slow

[steep totem]

Ye gods, Voruna

Honestly forgot about that one

[half sandal]

would i be considered a furry if i make voruna tho

thats the real question

[steep totem]

That's a nope from me
Not farming Voruna

[zenith jacinth]

I can not forget because I got burned out farming wolf mommy frame

[half sandal]

wolf what-

[zenith jacinth]

I mean

Probably not

[half sandal]

gang why are ppl getting thristy over SPACE ROBOTS

[zenith jacinth]

People still simp for valkyr

[half sandal]

for what reason

[steep totem]

Cause they ain't robots

[zenith jacinth]

Because they're designed to be fairly conventionally attractive

With exceptions

[half sandal]

sorry.... they are infested sick people that got turned into war machines by helminth strain

but that dosent make them bangable yk

that just makes it worse

[zenith jacinth]

Do not underestimate artists

[half sandal]

i seen the wisp arts dw

[gentle cape]

tbh not really,, but i did her vainthorn farming solo so.

you just need abyssal beacons, which you can get from any syndicates. 16 i think...... or 15. i got 20 of the things & had fun soloing everyone w umbra tbh.

[half sandal]

[zenith jacinth]

I'm also simping for kullervo deluxe and it's not even released yet

But believe me when I say that I'm gonna buy it asap

[steep totem]

On the subject of Dagath, I just don't bother with the syndicates
So I bought Dagath

[zenith jacinth]

You gave like the best example with wisp

[steep totem]

Tempted to do the same
Been looking forward to a Kullervo deluxe

[half sandal]

she dosent even have feet shes just a hollow corpse flying yk

but that wont stop people will it

[zenith jacinth]

People have drawn worse

I have unfortunately seen some of it

[half sandal]

im scared to ask but example?

[steep totem]

The Five Nights at Freddy's fandom has taught me that people won't stop for anything

[zenith jacinth]

No

[half sandal]

honestly understandable

[half sandal]

yea, it wont

i too did pulled into that black hole thx to vrchat too

[zenith jacinth]

Anyways warframe

Dorrclave is a good weapon, worth the lanthorn suffering

[half sandal]

was loid and otak a viodrig?

[zenith jacinth]

No

Otak is a cephalon with unknown original purpose, necraloid was made to keep loid company

[half sandal]

huh

they look like they are a broken piece of voidrig

[zenith jacinth]

That's just the average entrati style

[left slate]

Entrati like coin shape :3

[half sandal]

greedy blue people

[left slate]

Nothing new there

[half sandal]

honestly

what does the entrati opens besides helminth

if i were to max it out

[zenith jacinth]

Lavos and cedo

[half sandal]

regular lavos?

[zenith jacinth]

Great frame, great weapon

[half sandal]

dont sell me the great frame sht broski

i know nobody played lavos before his prime got added

[left slate]

https://tenor.com/view/lex-luthor-wrong-superman-returns-kevin-spacey-not-right-gif-22407726

[half sandal]

[nova harness]

Xaku and Xaku kit
Halloween stories
Halloween decorations
Halloween weapons
Halloween in general

[steep totem]

Everything but the Halloween frame
That's dojo + syndicates

[half sandal]

dats cool

i just hate deimos so much i don wanna do its quest

but i have to

[steep totem]

come to think of it, we need a Day of the Dead Dagath

[half sandal]

atleast the sister and grandma is likeable

[steep totem]

Only Entrati I don't like is Mother
Except, oddly enough, when she's narrating in Duviri

[half sandal]

dont play duvuri that much

i just hate orokin in general

[nova harness]

Good

The Family are still the best Orokin around

[half sandal]

but for some foking reason DE decided to make every frame with OROKİN CELLS

sure it makes sense but i hate farming it so much

[steep totem]

Ceres works too

Think that's where I get most of mine

I don't actually pay much attention to my cell stores lol

[nova harness]

I've got 200+ of them

[half sandal]

WHERE

[nova harness]

I accumulated them over time

Over 5 years

[half sandal]

man

i will break the entrati son for his cells at this point

[steep totem]

228 lol
I just checked in companion

[nova harness]

Companion app can check profiles now?

[steep totem]

No, sorry
I meant that's how many I have

[nova harness]

Oh

[half sandal]

do yall

just keep it in the storage

[steep totem]

probably could have made that clearer

[steep totem]

I just end up not using much

[nova harness]

I have 247 Cells

[steep totem]

Slightly more than me

[nova harness]

Just playing restocks them

[glacial gorge]

I play super casually myself, but they kinda stack up from my extractors alone.

[steep totem]

Yeah, I'd probably have more from my extractors if I wasn't gunning for Mutagen Samples

Hema research is still hungry

[glacial gorge]

I think neurodes were my main thing before; now I always plant them on Deimos, Kuva Fortress and the Zariman.

Oh, a bunch came from Helene defense as well, especially when I see it come up as a relic.

[zenith jacinth]

Because he need you to use brain cells which the average wf player doesn't have

[crystal agate]

mm yes spam gas catalyse

[half sandal]

the only reason

i want khora prime is cuz i need a loot queen

for orokin cells

[crystal agate]

nekros prime is in a week yknow

could get him

[half sandal]

nah

ill be real i just wanna whip corpus

[molten quest]

Ok im going to say something that i think is a bit controversial: The New War was kinda mid

Like, yes it's a good quest, but there's a few parts where i thought it was just a bit idk unnecessary?

Like the worst offender IMO by far is the sentient ship that was trying to feed on the sun, that came out of absolutely nowhere, and was completely unnecessary IMO

[pastel frost]

Just a heads-up, pretty sure this isn't actually the right place, but I'm a bit too tired to look for it...

Started Whispers in the Walls just now. Had to find out, this hotfix doesn't actually work properly, cause I encountered that exact problem just now

(screenshot from the warframe fandom wiki)

[steep totem]

Submit bug report asap
DE doesn't like it when their fixes don't go through

[pastel frost]

wanted to write it down somewhere where others see it cause I often forget about this kind of stuff rather fast...
Hope I will remember to report it when I'm back online in a bit...

[balmy storm]

It’s Ballas’ desperate attempt to get to Tau but ok

[steep totem]

Also try to write down exactly what you did so you can try to reproduce it
It helps

I know because each time I report they ask me to

[pastel frost]

will have to read through stuff how to submit logs - cause I don't even know where I would get those from!

will try later, have to do other stuff rn

[obtuse gyro]

Came out of nowhere? Phragasa was in the prelude to the New War, as well as the location of the first act

[molten quest]

Yeah ik what it is, what i meant is story-wise it came out of nowhere

[balmy storm]

It really didn’t

[molten quest]

And how it works wasnt explained in either of those, like it feeding on wreckage and stuff

[balmy storm]

her

[molten quest]

That part feels like it was just like "oh we need to up the stakes"

[balmy storm]

Eehh, it makes sense

Praghasa needs to eat matter and to make a void portal straight to Tau she’d need a lot of energy
The sun produces a lot of energy
Plus it’s Ballas’ desperation and final act to try and kill everyone cause he’s a petty loser

[obtuse gyro]

Story-wise praghasa the mother was there since what? Erra (Quest) in prelude to the new war?

[molten quest]

That's not what i mean story-wise

Like, sure she existed then, but was just a setpiece

[balmy storm]

She was teased way further back too
Natah mentions her briefly in the Sacrifice
And there’s that old New War teaser where it seems like she speaks (though it probably wasn’t actually her since she was dead)

[molten quest]

Yeah like i knew she existed, but the ship just eating the sun came out of absolutely nowhere IMO

[balmy storm]

https://youtu.be/oecQ8a4roUQ?si=1fF2ifGBT99V-6le

[molten quest]

It'd make sense ballas wants some petty revenge on everything but the way that happened kinda came out of nowhere

[balmy storm]

It’s very in character for him

[molten quest]

Oh yeah for sure

[balmy storm]

Like it’s def there to up the stakes but like
It also makes sense

[molten quest]

I thought it'd be something a little more foreshadowed like making everyones narmer veils explode and kill everyone or smth

[balmy storm]

Also it serves the additional purpose of Ballas created a big enough void portal that it gets Wally’s attention which sets up the next arc

[molten quest]

(the thing that ballas uses to up the stakes)

Well i'm not there yet so dunno about that xD

I just finished new war

[balmy storm]

If you finished it then you saw the big man in the wall

[molten quest]

Yes ofc

[balmy storm]

Which
Yeah sorry, that is setting up what’s next

[molten quest]

But like i don't know what that is yet

Yeah no that i guessed lmao

[balmy storm]

You’ll find out soon!

[molten quest]

Yep

[balmy storm]

I hope you enjoy it

[molten quest]

Yeah

But yeah idk i think there were quite a few moments in new war that were like kinda eh

[balmy storm]

The new arc is a lot. Less confusing but more confusing at the same time lol

[balmy storm]

Covid def impacted it in a lot of ways tbh

Like the prelude events to the New War weren’t great due to covid

Orphix Venom and Scarlet Spear

[molten quest]

The prelude quest was IMO better than the main quest

[balmy storm]

Fun fact
You had to have the Paracesis, go to the railjack veil proxima mission that had a sentient ship and slap a big red crystal with the paracesis to get the Erra quest/cutscene

[molten quest]

The main issue i had with the new war was there were a lot of parts of it that felt like they came kinda out of nowhere

[balmy storm]

So so glad they changed that lmao

[molten quest]

Lmao

The best part by far of new war was the whole thing with Hunhow and the shadow

[balmy storm]

I think for me a decent amount makes sense and didn’t just come out of nowhere cause I was around enough to follow along with what they were setting up

Unfortunately some things are very “you had to be there at the time” kinda things
Like the ARGs especially

[molten quest]

Hm

Yeah the hunhow stuff i think really hit well due to that, because it's like somewhat unexpected but still makes SO SO SO much sense

[balmy storm]

Like this doesn’t even show up in game lmao

[molten quest]

And it's foreshadowed VERY well

[balmy storm]

I hope they do more with Hunhow

We can fix racist space grandpa to not be racist

[molten quest]

By well i dont mean its obvious, i mean more like all the information for you to piece it together is there, but you don't expect it because it's still such a stretch

Erra was also kinda cool, although my second least favourite part of the whole quest was how he was just kinda left behind out of nowhere like tf

Youre telling me this sentient has to just sit there to support this one random ahh pillar

Cmon lmao

[obtuse gyro]

And also the might of the sun

[balmy storm]

You may like what’s next :)

[obtuse gyro]

Like, erra was quite literally cooked

You should probably do another quest, perhaps something to do with veils

And find out what dish you got out of sun-dried sentient

[balmy storm]

Iirc the Narmer song mentions the sun too so you could argue it’s foreshadowed to some degree

[molten quest]

Oh like i fully expect him to be back don't get me wrong, but that felt like the laziest possible way to write him out of the ending to that quest

[obtuse gyro]

Hell, Ballas blowing up the sun to take out everyone else is calling back to albrecht's first entry lol

"We die with the sun"

[balmy storm]

Oh yeah!

[steep totem]

My least favorite part of the old quests
Like Patient Zero
It now has literally no buildup
Alad V is suddenly Infested and is building an empire
Wut?

[balmy storm]

Which unfortunately people can miss his entries ):

[balmy storm]

And then he’s just cured in the New War lmao

[molten quest]

Ok i haven't even had anyone named albrecht show up in the story i'm like 99% sure

And i did every single available quest pre-new war

[steep totem]

Yeah
It's not great

[obtuse gyro]

Ah, not been faithful with your entrati standing huh

[molten quest]

Oh i have

I assume he's entrati then

[obtuse gyro]

R5 entrati r3 necraloid?

[steep totem]

Mother's dad

[molten quest]

Not r3 necraloid because SCREW getting necraloid standing holy CRAP

[obtuse gyro]

Ok you shouldnt need max standing now anyways. Head to necraloid

Look at the fancy thing behind him

Look at the 8 interactables circling the fancy thing

[molten quest]

(actually getting the standing is fine, what's not fine is the way the ranks are leveled up)

[obtuse gyro]

Tada. Dr Albrecht Entrati, father of void tech

[molten quest]

Ah

[balmy storm]

This is what I’m talking about, players can just miss Albrecht’s whole notes behind Necraloid!

Albrecht’s vitruvian is one of the best bits in the game and it’s just something you can entirely miss

[molten quest]

Also a major reason why i missed it is because that whole area is buggy af

[steep totem]

Especially the last entry imo

[balmy storm]

I’m just glad you dob’t need to level up the Entrati fully to view them now tbh

[molten quest]

Like you can get to loid from the quick wheel menu but if you do that while in warframe mode it just screws up and you can't rly do anything

[gentle cape]

...not really?? bc iirc its been known that to go to tau system, you need a massive amount of energy to make that jump. the sun is the biggest source of energy in the origin system so.

[molten quest]

Well it wasnt known to me

Idk where it was revealed

But was DEFINITELY not very clear

I'm typically pretty good when it comes to picking stuff like that up too

[gentle cape]

i think it was said in the quest itself...

[balmy storm]

The sentients didn’t do a void jump though
And she makes a portal, not a jump

[gentle cape]

thats how i know abt it.

[molten quest]

Definitely wasn't said in the quest

[obtuse gyro]

Sentients can't jump anyhow, they dont have a finger

[gentle cape]

then how did they make the jump from tau to origin system??

[nova harness]

They flew

[obtuse gyro]

The solar rail?

[obtuse gyro]

Wrong direction

[balmy storm]

They took the long way the first bout and then used the rail the second bout

The sentients can’t do a jump due to no finger AND the void is poison to them

[fiery surge]

sentient robots dislike nonsensical energy

the plot-contradictory, paradoxical kind

[nova harness]

It was built in

[balmy storm]

^^

[obtuse gyro]

Plot contradictory?

[steep totem]

Well, yeah
It contradicted Ballas' plot to take over the Origin System by spitting the Drifter out of Duviri

There ya go, plot-contradictory

[obtuse gyro]

[steep totem]

[fiery surge]

Drifter rule: It is illegal for Drifter to die. Dying will result into a time loop.

[rain otter]

Albretch was mentioned in deimos

Back when that came out. He's mother's dad.

But yeah watch the logs in diemos.

[molten quest]

Idk about back then, but the only reference i could find to him by name at this point was his logs that i didn't even know existed before that convo lmao

[rain otter]

I do.

I was playing back back then.

The logs where with diemos original release.

[molten quest]

Yeah, i wasnt playing back then lmao

[rain otter]

Also

You see statues of him in the vaults

[molten quest]

Not mentioned by name

[balmy storm]

The time loop in 1999 was already established
In Duviri it was just Thrax resetting the day over and over

[rain otter]

Wait you haven't done the Zariman yet have you?

[molten quest]

No ofc not?????

I just finished new war and zariman is after new war

[balmy storm]

I hope you enjoy the new quests!

[rain otter]

I didn't know how long it had been since you did it.

I do hope you enjoy them.

[molten quest]

Oh, yeah no i literally just finished it lmao

[balmy storm]

The music somehow just gets better and better btw

[rain otter]

Oh btw Albretch was not married to g-ma.

Grandma is father's Mom.

[molten quest]

I mean so far the best bar none has been we all lift together

[rain otter]

Wait does someone have the

[molten quest]

And i feel like that won't be topped anytime soon

[rain otter]

Like chart.

[balmy storm]

That do be a banger

For Narmer is so good too since it just
Twists that

First time I heard it it had really hit me that
Oh
We lost

[rain otter]

Btw a visual.

Oh wait

[steep totem]

I'm personally fond of Sleeping in the Cold Below

[rain otter]

You might not know the dagath thing.

[molten quest]

Yeah this is what i expected

Oh i do lol

[rain otter]

Go listen to the dagath Story.

[molten quest]

I'm in a clan

And that's in the clan dojo

[rain otter]

Gotcha.

[molten quest]

Yeah idk it didn't have that big an impact on me, like i fully was expecting something like it, since we all lift together was such a good scene

And also i feel like for narmer was lacking the idk depth that we all lift together had

It had no instrumentation

[balmy storm]

I think that was purposeful tbh

The soul was sucked out of it
Cause
Everyone is veiled

[molten quest]

Yes ofc, it makes all of the sense for it to be that way

[rain otter]

The gauss prime music is good.

[molten quest]

But it also does make it less good of a song IMO xD

[rain otter]

Have you seen the gauss prime trailer Oreo?

[molten quest]

No

[steep totem]

I was super creeped out the first time I heard it

[molten quest]

I've seen no content outsdide of the game

[balmy storm]

Go watch all the prime trailers

[rain otter]

https://youtu.be/3L56G_0BJuo?si=fKZ3YSBMWW3778UD

Double feature I guess.

[balmy storm]

Skip the prime time that’s there for some reason

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDmrv5FhAWj-UirYcGr0Ax6sjBK4T_Rex&si=jchypPLJihbw9958

[rain otter]

The prime trailers even have a little LORE.

[molten quest]

Also can i just mention that i love how they introduced jiggle physics for grendels stomach and applied them nowhere else lmao

[rain otter]

As a treat.

[balmy storm]

He’s the goat

gastro of all time

[steep totem]

YES

IT'S HILARIOUS

[molten quest]

Gooners: Mommy can we have jiggle physics
Lotus: We have jiggle physics at home
The jiggle physics at home:

[balmy storm]

Someone’s a freak for Grendel
And y’know what?
More power to em

[rain otter]

Even then it's not that much. But yeah it makes sense. Minerva might have some but idk. If she didn't it would also make sense. Anyway Warframe does attractive Ness and "horniness" in a very respect way.

[rain otter]

Wait I have a meme for this I'll send it to you lmao.

[balmy storm]

Please do lol

[molten quest]

Also any opinions on the order in which i should do quests post-newwar? I was thinking i'd do the typical thing i always do and put off making progress as long as possible and do veilbreakers first xd

But is that a bad idea

[steep totem]

I once played Grendel in the Circuit
Think I scared one of my teammates by eating the enemy in front of him
Because he just whirls around and stares at me for 3 seconds without moving

[rain otter]

why put it off? it's so good. also the zariman is my favorite area in the whole game. well top 3.

Probably still up there tied for first.

[molten quest]

Cambion my beloved

[rain otter]

i do like diemos

[balmy storm]

LMAO nice

[rain otter]

it has the best bounties.

with the best rewards that the funest.

[molten quest]

Well its the only one with bounties that arent like moronically difficult to do sometimes

Drone pathfinding on cetus is sometimes uh questionable

And the crate looting on venus is sometimes also very questionable, as are the lower level defense objectives on venus

[undone lodge]

Alternatively the Gourmet Of All Time

[balmy storm]

Ooo that’s better

[warm anvil]

zariman/veilbreakrr/jade shadows
duvuri
whispers

[steep totem]

Would put Duviri before Zariman, but that's personal preference
(I also did the Paradox long before I got to the New War)

[warm anvil]

yeah most people did

i think the ||zariman segments of duviri would be more special if u played zariman first tbh||

[molten quest]

I've done duviri LONG ago

[warm anvil]

some people just don't play it for as long as they can bc it looks boring idk

and some people suggest that you play it after new war

so idk lol

[balmy storm]

Idk how people can look at it and think boring lmao

[warm anvil]

no clue

[foggy mesa]

So - I have the option to attempt New Years again but I'm only rank 3 and haven't picked a romance yet. Should probably wait till I'm set right?

I am friends with all of the Hex atm

[hearty pendant]

new years retry isn't tied to the actual calendar system and won't affect anything there
iirc you either can't do it until rank 4 or you need to do it for rank 4

[gentle cape]

if youre friends w all of them thats the only requirement you need. iirc some romances are locked behind rank 4.

[foggy mesa]

Gotcha - and doing the new years quest doesn't lock you out of stuff if you do it before R4 or is it as Grey said - can't even get R4 w/o completing new years again?

[gentle cape]

i honestly cant remember...

[hearty pendant]

won't lock you out of anything afaik
according to the wiki it just requires rank 3 and liked w/ all hex
so you should be fine to do it

[foggy mesa]

Groovy thanks gang

[rain otter]

OH make sure you have like "all conversations" clicked but yeah doing the "finale" shouldn't mess up anything.

[foggy mesa]

All convos? You mean I've gone through all available convos?

[rain otter]

No lmao. It's just a check mark you can turn on on the PC where the kim messager is so you don't miss any chats.

[foggy mesa]

Ooo lemme check

That one?

[rain otter]

If it's checked you won't miss chats from like the previous level of friendship just cuz you give them to many gifts.

Its the first one check it.

[foggy mesa]

Kk

[foggy mesa]

That Hex finale was really cool - best quest wrap-up so far haha

[wild wind]

Helps that Core Containment rules

[frozen crater]

First comes 1999

Then Zariman and Duviri

Then the whisperer in the floor

Then the family on Deimos

Then fortune

And then the last location goes to endgame: Cetus
And the final quest is Sai's Watch

[obtuse gyro]

?

[undone lodge]

Who is Sai

Wait do you mean Saya’s Vigil

[hearty pendant]

i think they're implying a mirroring thing?

[tight pagoda]

"We end as we began" ahh theory

[frozen crater]

Yes

[open girder]

My friend got brand new weapon during second dream

[nova harness]

The weapon existed since Zariman incident

[open girder]

He just learned how to wield it with new style

[covert tree]

Hits you over the head with a child

[prime granite]

Help?

[thick jolt]

Whats wrong?

[prime granite]

Helminth

[thick jolt]

Yeah.... i can see it

[wild wind]

It's the shard segment

[prime granite]

But i did this quest

[hearty pendant]

archon shard helminth bit i guess?
need to do veilbreaker to access it

buy the bp from son, then i think
mb i misremembered

[wild wind]

....oh okay that part is weird

[prime granite]

Oh

[wild wind]

Main Helminth: Son
Shards: finish Veilbreaker
Shard upgrades: Whispers and buy from Bird

[hearty pendant]

right yeah
you should have the bp already, then
maybe just needs made
weird that there's no in-between message then. just a complete veilbreaker one

[wild wind]

Actually check if you have built the segment from Veilbreaker

[prime granite]

Didnt

Stupid me

Srry

[wild wind]

Glad it was an easy fix

[thick jolt]

"Whispers and buy from bird"
Gotta add that to warframe out of context list

This game is an out of context gold mine lol

[nova harness]

DE really should update that description to make it more clear once you have done Veilbreaker

[zenith jacinth]

"To obtain the required blueprint" is pretty clear I think

[steep totem]

Think the problem is that 'blueprint' relies too much on context to figure out you have to build the thing
What's the joke again? About warframe players and reading?

[half sandal]

Does healing the entrati family via grandma changes anyting?

[nova harness]

<@&778745217037238293>

Also posted in other channels

[gray orchid]

gives you more family tokens to exchange with grandma for grandma tokens which give way more standing. ranking up their standing/syndicate rank is how you heal their relationships

it's a bit of a slog because they were put in before DE kinda...learned...ish, that this particular style of token trading for syndicate ranking is....eugh lol

[rain otter]

what? no it wasn't.

[rain otter]

DON'T TRADE G-MA TOKENS IN. only trade mother tokens in.

[gray orchid]

I just spent 2 weeks getting them to R5, why are you yelling at me lmao

[rain otter]

the diemos bounties give like 13-17k each. that's way better than an other open worlds.

also the bounty rewards are good anyway.

okay i apologize if i was like "yelling" but really don't trade in g-ma tokens.

[gray orchid]

Grandmother tokens give more syndicate standing, and in my specific case I was not interested in using her tokens to purchase items from her. I only wanted to rank them to finally get them to 5 so I never have to worry about it ever again. Her tokens give substantial amounts of standing compared to the other family members

[rain otter]

just turn in mother tokens. get the G-ma Tokens

to trade her for the seriglass sharks.

[gray orchid]

I think you're assuming I had the same priorities/goals you did which isn't the case

[rain otter]

no?

i am telling you what is literally the best way that isn't a slog.

a bounty

gives 15(?) i knew this at some point. worth of mother tokens.

[gray orchid]

Assuming I want/need seriglass for one :V if/when I need those I will get to them in due course

[rain otter]

2 bounties is max standing.

[gray orchid]

grandmother tokens given a huge amount of standing compared to mother tokens, and you usually get a good return on trading mother-to-grandmother tokens. It was a perfectly fine method for my purposes

[rain otter]

okay

you aren't understanding my point.

it's not a slog cuz it's just 2 bounties.

also the diemos bounties have really good rewards anyway like endo and amber ayatan stars.

[gray orchid]

There's some kind of disconnect here because I understand you perfectly fine, I just think we had different priorities/interests. I did a bunch of isolation vaults and SP bounties, traded my mother tokens, spent as many grandmother tokens as I could to get max standing per day and now I don't need to worry about it ever again :D

[rain otter]

oh

i meant normal bounties.

SP bounties take a little too long

and Iso vaults don't give that many

tokens.

but also sure.

[gray orchid]

not really, and I did iso vaults because I needed drops from the vaults (and minerals) for other things. I dont mind the two birds one stone method. if it doesn't jive with someone else they'll do their own thing and that's fine

I could probably spreadsheet the best min-max way to get them to R5 but I'm not meta enough to bother about it. if someone visits deimos frequently for materials purposes they'll eventually get to R5 passively, whether it feels sloggish depends on how important the R5 is I suppose

[half sandal]

Cool ig

[brazen ruin]

Lol. Just got my Holdfast to rank 5. Cavalero is the best

[zenith jacinth]

Somethin ain't right with cav in that picture

[tight pagoda]

Bro is at rank negative 5

[covert tree]

Cavalero incarnon

[crystal agate]

he looks like he's mid mud facial lol

[balmy storm]

Void facials will do wonders for your consciousness

[nova harness]

He's gonna need at least 60 Void Children to cure that face 1 isn't enough

[silk helm]

wow. what a masterpiece.

[balmy storm]

Yeah :)
there’s more for you to experience too

The masterpiece just keeps growing

[nova harness]

Masterpiece Prime

[balmy storm]

Masterpiece Umbra when?

[nova harness]

Sometime after Tennocon

[silk helm]

going to Tennocon with Natah cosplay (i'm lying, no money for flight)

[balmy storm]

A natah cosplay would go crazy hard omg

[silk helm]

right??

[balmy storm]

If you could cosplay any character in Warframe
Who?

[silk helm]

either the operator or Yareli

[balmy storm]

Def Yonta or Little Duck for me
Or the Blind Girl from the ghouls comics

[balmy storm]

Have you seen the Yareli cosplay from tennocon :o

[silk helm]

Ordis cosplay

[balmy storm]

Lmao

[silk helm]

oo not yet

[nova harness]

Myself would be the cheapest cosplay ever

[balmy storm]

I think it was last years!
Def look into it!

Though be wary of some spoilers potentially being shown, you did just finish TNW

[silk helm]

I definitely will :D

[balmy storm]

[silk helm]

i stopped playing at some point, that was around when Lotus Eater got released

i definitely wanna play that quest

[balmy storm]

It’s short but so so good

Rebb and her team have really been cooking

[nova harness]

Is it actually shorter than the other baby quests

[balmy storm]

I think it’s about the same length

[silk helm]

agreed, i did a little oopsie and spoilered the hex for myself because i wanted to watch it because someone i watched at that time played it and that was an amazing quest as well

[balmy storm]

I just know people got uppity for some reason cause DE didn’t say it was short lmao

[balmy storm]

I gotta replay it before my big surgery

[silk helm]

what surgery if i'm allowed to ask

[nova harness]

I think the issue I saw people having was it was marketed as both

[silk helm]

honestly i personally am just happy whenever there is new content

[nova harness]

My issue wasn't with the quest but that there wasn't much to do afterwards

[wild wind]

Bombastine

[wicked iron]

I may have found a plot hole.... There's no Heart in 1999... How can we use our Void powers?

[amber terrace]

Albrecht probably had a proxy on standby

Either that or whatever makes 1999 significant in relation to Albrecht escaping The Indifference is what allows the Hex and the Tenno to use their powers

[balmy storm]

Bottom

[wild wind]

Yeah I was wondering about that too

Best I can figure is the finger? Assuming Albrecht still has the original?

[balmy storm]

I’ve discussed this a number of times actually
I was fully expecting a miniature heart of sorts in 1999 but I think the more likely explanation is the Heart’s power can extend to 1999
Alternatively the Vessels all have hearts similar in design to the Heart of Deimos, so could be that once Albrecht established his vessels he also established the void powers for the protoframes as they are directly connected to their vessel counterparts

[balmy storm]

If he was expecting Wally to follow I doubt he’s take it with him tbh
And if he did he took it with him to wherever he went next

[wicked iron]

If that was the case, then the heart being destroyed at any point in time wouldn't matter, since it existed before then and its ability to pump Void energy would be able to transcend time.

[silk helm]

Ooo hell yeah, good luck!

[balmy storm]

Thank you!

[balmy storm]

It wasn’t destroyed, just malfunctioning
But
Yeah, my best theory is the vessels but even then they would have (in theory) gone down when the Heart did
Which
All void tech would go down briefly relative to that moment
It’s weird :p

We have nothing else in 1999 that could power the protos other than the vessels or the heart transcending time

Which we also don’t know how Albrecht sustained his loop

DE maybe just
Forgot
Which. 🤷‍♀️

[wicked iron]

Maybe we'll find out. XD

[balmy storm]

Maybe!

DE is unfortunately done with 1999 for the moment and it never comes up in the KIM messages

[fading current]

Eleanor asked the same question we all have haha.

[balmy storm]

So it was brought up but no answer lol
My guess is vessels or the heart is really good

[nova harness]

Infestation transcends time

Heart transcends logic

[balmy storm]

[rain otter]

@wild wind Eleanor has a whole conversation about this.

[rain otter]

Oh here it is lmao.

[wicked iron]

HMMMM....

Well, at least we know it is something that DE thought of. XD

[rain otter]

Yeah lmao.

[nova harness]

Heart doesn't give Void powers to us

We got our powers from Wally and could still do transference when it was damaged

[wicked iron]

But the Warframes were de-powered.

[nova harness]

Warframes need the heart not us

[balmy storm]

The Warframes get powered by the Heart
We are not Warframes and are not powered by it

[balmy storm]

Yes
That was there point

We have a piece of Wally
The Protoframes don’t have. Anything that we see in 1999, we just know they have a connection somehow

[wild wind]

ALL Orokin technology, Warframes included, depends on the Heart

[nova harness]

We aren't Void tech

[wild wind]

Except the Necramechs which apparently have an internal power source

[balmy storm]

We aren’t technology and our powers depend on our piece of Wally

[wicked iron]

I don't think Prime weapons depend on the Void, necessarily.

[wild wind]

We also aren't Orokin technology

[balmy storm]

Depends on what ones use void tech

Not all Orokin tech uses the Heart and the void
But all Void tech uses the Heart and the void

[nova harness]

Do any actual Void guns exist in the game not meaning Incarnons

[balmy storm]

Sirocco?

[nova harness]

True

[balmy storm]

That’s conceptually embodied and not Orokin tech tho lol

[wild wind]

Aeolak

[wicked iron]

Is Sirocco a conceptually embodied weapon?

[balmy storm]

Isn’t that corrupted by the void or?
Been a while since I looked at the description

[balmy storm]

Yes
It’s only found in Duviri

It also generates it’s own ammo from the void

[nova harness]

Do any units actually use Aeolak swear I have only seen Thrax units use melee

[balmy storm]

I think one of them does?

Or it does in the codex??

[wild wind]

It's a Gotva Prime that was reconstructed by the void

[balmy storm]

Right yeah!

[thick jolt]

Yeah aeolak thrax is the annoying one that clones itself to shoot magnetic beams at you

[balmy storm]

Not void tech tho
Just
Void corrupted

[nova harness]

Is it the one Legatus use?

[wild wind]

I mean it is a completely different weapon, just one that's half Gotva

[balmy storm]

Half gotva half whatever the heck Thrax did

[thick jolt]

They dont last long enough to read their names

[nova harness]

True

Units in Warframe have very very short lifespans

We don't read names as we kill

[balmy storm]

We read them after we kill in the codex

[nova harness]

It’s too late by then

Kill first read codex later

[wild wind]

Honestly I want more thrax weapons

[balmy storm]

Same

[wild wind]

It'd be a way to update certain old Tenno weapons too

[balmy storm]

If not just for my Duviri Xaku fashion

[wild wind]

Like Fusilai

[balmy storm]

Ooooo

Incarnons but Thraxed

[wild wind]

Or the archguns

Thrax Imperator

[amber terrace]

While you mentioned Thrax, what is the difference between the Thrax we encounter in the Zariman, the Thrax we encounter in the Undercroft, and the Thrax we encounter in Conjunction Survival?

Genuine curiosity

[balmy storm]

I want the vessels to use the archweapons like normal weapons

Tiny gun for big giant

[wild wind]

Point of origin

The Zariman thrax are coming straight from another Zariman, aka Duviri

[balmy storm]

All come from Duviri
2 are closer to Duviri
1 is a result of Lua being in the void too long

[wild wind]

Undercroft thrax are the same

Yep exactly

[balmy storm]

The Lone Guardian is a Thrax Dax too
Like

He just walkin’

[wild wind]

I always figured that was a manifestation of Teshin

[balmy storm]

I figured so too but the model is of a Thrax Dax

So maybe it’s both
A manifestation from Teshin in the form of the closest thing to a Dax in Duviri

[nova harness]

Lone Guardian is slacking at being a guardian

[wild wind]

All of the thrax are memories of dax soldiers

[balmy storm]

Actually
With its grayscale aura I wonder if it does nothing because it’s extremely apathetic?

[balmy storm]

Could they not have also come from the book

Or like
A mix of both rather

[wild wind]

Like, iirc they're not naturally from the Duviri Tales but came from something else

[balmy storm]

Oooo

If you can find the source on that pls ping me, I vaguely remember that but now I wanna read up on it

Could be the Drifter manifested them at first via memory and wanting to feel safe, associating the Dax with safety ad they were basically police
And Thrax just did what he does and took em for himself

[wild wind]

A few of the retainers mention it

There's no lore on the thrax units but I kinda wonder if they're related to Albrecht somehow

[balmy storm]

“Hey kid king, look at this, these are cops you should make some”

[wild wind]

Ahahaha

[silk helm]

Actually forget what I said, I forgot about mesa prime

[rigid zodiac]

finally know who the ''man in the wall'' is

[night grail]

Tonfas feel so right on caliban

Sentient tonfas would be cool

[zenith jacinth]

Tonfas feel so right on caliban

[night grail]

Okay true

But especially on caliban

Spinny boy with spinny weapons

Also

[hexed fern]

How did Jade give birth? Did Stalker screw Jade? Can Warframes actually reproduce sexually???

-# so many questions...

[hearty pendant]

to answer your second and third questions
yes, but before they were warframes. they were warframed as punishment. something with the legems
highly unlikely

[night grail]

Did you just, not pay attention to the parts where they explained they got warframed as a punishment

[hexed fern]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

So she was pregnant BEFORE they got turned into frames

[night grail]

Yes

[hexed fern]

That explains everything.

[night grail]

Go to teshin in the relay

There's a thing that glows green

Interact with it

[zenith jacinth]

Average wf player moment

[rain otter]

Also Ballas kept her womb and child on her on purpose as a part of the punishment.

[lavish dove]

Is Tau a place that you could (theoretically) go to?

IE: given a sufficiently powered railjack, is it not unreasonable to get to Tau via a void jump?

[night grail]

The issue is not the power

The issue is getting lost afaik

[nova harness]

People did go to Tau

Hunhow didn't like it so blew up the rail

[covert tree]

Theres a skin atleast

[lavish dove]

Elaborate, because I think I get what you're saying but I don't 100% understand

[lavish dove]

I'm talking about after hunhow blew up the rail

In the current era.

[obtuse gyro]

A large number of repeat junps should be able to

[nova harness]

Current era we got Pazuul wanting to rebuild the rail and Albrecht planning to go to Tau

[night grail]

Space is very very very big

Cutting through the Void willy nilly can and will get you lost

[nova harness]

Void is also very very big as a dimension

Can easily get lost in it

[obtuse gyro]

Hence many small repeat jumps

B-hopping through space

[lavish dove]

So it is theoretically possible, it would just need something like a "waypoint"

[nova harness]

Would need another Zariman

Railjack wouldn't be able to do it

[obtuse gyro]

Many many many many small jumps

[nova harness]

Bouncyjack when?

[night grail]

Like a lanthorn

But the opposite

Those mark void locations in real space

You'd want real space in void

[rain otter]

You could. Idk if we would risk the only things in current origin system that have a finger drive.

[rain otter]

Well 1/2

Of the rail.

We only blew up the origin system side.

[compact rose]

question, why is this skin broken

especially to this extent?

the yamex too, to a lesser extent

[spiral zodiac]

Why ask here?

[compact rose]

cause im stupid and couldnt find the bug report section

and the background is the backrooms

[hearty pendant]

w/o knowing exactly how the system works, my best guess is just that the textures share the same "id" so the spinning texture on tonkkatt makes that id spin on other skins
i imagine DE know about it, but you can go to #support-and-bugs to report it officially

[rigid zodiac]

DE, i require the story. what did he do with the penguins in his birthday?!

[dark belfry]

Also, Tonkett's brand new, so glitches may be found. it's likely not optimized for every skin yet

[rigid zodiac]

@gentle cape can i ask why you picked that as your name out of curiosity? 🤔

[gentle cape]

its my real name. im arab & it means dewdrop! (ندى in arabic!)

[rigid zodiac]

ah thats interisting! i am from portugal and that words means nothing thats why i asked

it means ''nothing'' not nothing- you get it ahah

[gentle cape]

no yeah i get it!! its been said to me a lot

[rigid zodiac]

ahah i guess it was from people like me that asked to see if you were portuguese too xD

[gentle cape]

fun fact i learned yesterday: "reyes" (the surname) & the arabic word for leader "ra'ees" (رئيس) are very, very similar... in every way—the pronounciation depends on the arab dialect tho.

[gentle cape]

yup! i had someone say "absolutamente nada" as a joke which... i think?? it means absolutely nothing...

...but yeah im arab & thats my name cknskfnsnf we're going off topic

[rigid zodiac]

ahahahahah thats totaly something i would do and end up embaraced to show my face around xD

[zenith jacinth]

That word exists in a few languages with that meaning

[silk helm]

this looks so funny to me

[tight pagoda]

Kahl of Duty

[topaz storm]

Looney tunes real?

[wild wind]

yep

[tight pagoda]

It'd be funny if in the Warframe universe it's called Looney Toons

[zenith jacinth]

Crazy toons, gotta stay legally distinct

[wild wind]

I mean, in our timeline it was the Looney Tunes

[zenith jacinth]

It's owned by one of the most sue-happy companies, better safe than sorry

[night grail]

Loopy Tunes

[wild wind]

Oh that's actually good

[dim stag]

Anyone know when to expect warframe android?

🙂

[steep totem]

I'd go for Tooney Lunes, but I'm not sure that's legally distinct enough

[balmy storm]

When it’s ready

[hearty pendant]

^
our last update was that they have a semi-working dev build in-office, but it is still highly prone to crashes

[dim stag]

May u never get the mod that you want😇

[balmy storm]

Sorry, we just don’t have any exacts ):

It was the same for IOS, crossplay and such

It’s done when it’s ready

[dim stag]

Yeah, I saw rebecca playing it on a Google pixel on stream

[dim stag]

😔Hope thats soon

[balmy storm]

Hopefully! Trust me though, you want it to be as polished as it can be before launch :)
and ofc they’ll keep updating and optimizing it too

It’s actually insane I can play railjack on my phone

[dim stag]

😭I played it on iOS. It's really good

[balmy storm]

Right? I’m glad I have it as an option :)

[night grail]

Im honestly only interested in the android version for the armor set

I love free things

[wild wind]

I use that syndana on Saryn actually

[silk helm]

i just did the zariman quest today, is that not literally that

was that always there or only after that quest

[night grail]

Always there

[silk helm]

damn

[wild wind]

Funny story: ||explore around and bit and you'll realize Duviri IS the Drifter's Zariman||

[silk helm]

i mean, that does make sense

[south fable]

guys im in duviri and i keep getting ballas subtitles????

i am 100% certain its a glitch of some kind since i didnt hear his voice (im blasting music)

ITS NOT GLITCHED

im an idiot its the warden i think

[nova harness]

It’s a bug the only Ballas quote you should hear is when Drifter gets stabbed in the quest same time Operator does

[south fable]

here i was thinking were getting like fortnite style pre new quest teases

[wild wind]

@steel fable real talk, Minerva and Velimir seem like they'll unlock a special option in a future quest

Probably minor, but....

[nova harness]

Watch it just being them telling us to bring Rusalka back due to a lead on her location

[wild wind]

entirely possible heh

[steel fable]

ble

[tight pagoda]

Nah, ever since Techrot Encore (maybe even before then), doing moves in Komi causes Ballas voice lines from the Sacrifice to play

Might be intentional, might not be, I have no clue how they'd accidentally have implemented this with Techrot Encore out of all updates

[south fable]

thank you so much for the explanation! i was worried i broke something in my game

bugframe is as bugframe does

[zenith jacinth]

Only subtitles*

Subtitles like to break for some reason, you can still get the "all as one" that appears when walking by a specific spot in fortuna

[tight pagoda]

I've heard dialogue too

[gentle cape]

(tekken announcer voice) round 2, fight!

[zenith jacinth]

You dare copy my decision to reset this week‽

(I got tired of hearing arthur believe it or not)

[crystal agate]

yeah I got tired of hearing eleanor

zero cooldowns on the lines is just so rough

[cosmic rain]

Mom beat The Duviri Paradox yesterday.

[silk helm]

hi how are ya

give me a kith

[hearty pendant]

oh you can do that with loid too,,

[covert tree]

Do what

Oh my God he's massive

[silk helm]

truly the moment of realization

[pastel tulip]

I have just reached 1999 and, as a Frost main, feel mildly cheated that 1.) married 2.) undateable and 3.) Papa Bear.

[silk helm]

finally, i have done all main quests currently available

[dense ice]

no, drifter is duviri

the zariman ship is just a plug between the void and the world

[obtuse gyro]

drifter was being dramatic

they are not literally the place of duviri

[dense ice]

pretty much he manifested duviri

[silk helm]

I‘ll just do a hardcore dive into the lore and figure it out myself

[wild wind]

Yes, and they created it from the Zariman

[balmy storm]

Which this shouldn’t be confused for the scrapped concept of Duviri being made from Zariman terraforming pillars

[wild wind]

Right hahaha

that one never made sense to me

[nova harness]

Now I want Terraforming pillars so I can create new islands

Totally won’t get a visit from a Wall

[wicked iron]

Can't remember if it was in here or lore we were talking about how we can use our powers in 1999, but I was mistaken. In Heart of Deimos, it wasn't that our Warframe was de-powered. We, in fact, were. So now I am looping back to "how do we have powers in 1999 if there isn't a Heart."

[balmy storm]

It made sense in the sense of the Zariman having terraforming tech and the concept was a landmass made from math
Which
Is cool!

[balmy storm]

No it was the warframes that were de-powered

The heart powers void tech, not us.

The tenno’s void powers come from our piece of Wally that he gave to us during the deal
We are not tethered to the Heart or any void-tech
But the Warframes are.

[wicked iron]

It isn't. I'm watching someone doing the quest right now. Father says "alright, with the Void closing up, you're gonna be too weak to help in that frame."

[fading current]

Cuz the frame wouldn’t be functional. Tenno would be fine.

That’s why we transfer to a nechramech

[wicked iron]

He says WE are too weak, not our Warframe.

[wild wind]

Yeah, we're not portable Hearts, we still need Void powers to work

[wicked iron]

Technocyte predates Void discovery, and we know it can be used without Void power, like when Mesa is puppeted by the Infestation.

[wild wind]

....but the Warframe itself is also void powered, because ALL Orokin tech is

Warframe abilities are explicitly void-powered

[balmy storm]

Well not all but A LOT

The heart is shut off and it’s our frame that suffers
Not us
Heck we even still have transference

[wild wind]

I mean sure but it's like having candles in the house despite having a perfectly good electrical grid

[wicked iron]

There wasn't Void power flowing into Mesa through the Infestation, though, and its powers still worked. Same for the Chroma that was being used by the Sentients in The New Strange.

[balmy storm]

How do you know?

[wild wind]

The Tenno don't provide Void power to the Warframes, we're not batteries

[balmy storm]

^^

[wicked iron]

Father explicitly says it is that are too weak to make use of the Warframe, though. Not that the Warframe is itself weak.

[wild wind]

Umbra doesn't need an Operator

[wicked iron]

That's my point, is that Warframes can still function without Void directly flowing into them through us.

[balmy storm]

And yet it’s the Warframe that’s weak
And if we were weak then why give a necramech, something far more complicated like 5 seconds later

[balmy storm]

Source

Cause
To an extent, sure
But in terms of powers? No.

[wicked iron]

Nechramechs are much less complex than Warframes. Father even makes that distinction when he calls them the first wave and says how dumb they are.

[wicked iron]

Mesa and Chroma when they are being puppeted by non-Tenno.

[wild wind]

I think what Father's saying is that our connection to the Warframe is weakening because of the Heart closing

[balmy storm]

The necramechs aren’t voidtech, that’s why he gives it to us for us ti use

[wild wind]

Transference is a void-based power

[balmy storm]

We aren’t batteries, we don’t supply void power

You’re forgetting that generation 1 frames were a thing :p

[wicked iron]

He explicitly says that we ourselves are too weak to make use of our Warframe.

[wild wind]

And before TSD it's being handled mechanically

[gentle cape]

idt that was the original mesa...

[wild wind]

Right, Transference is a void power

That would weaken with everything else

[balmy storm]

Generation 1 frames didn’t have tenno and were still void powered :p

[dreamy yacht]

Is this geek chat

[balmy storm]

Ye

[wicked iron]

[wild wind]

wait there are two of you

[balmy storm]

I used a grineer cloning tank

totally

[dreamy yacht]

Together we are duck

[gentle cape]

its lore chat...

[balmy storm]

It’s spoiler chat

[dreamy yacht]

That just means yes

[balmy storm]

lore is super geek chat
I would know

[dreamy yacht]

I’m so bored

[wild wind]

same energy

[dreamy yacht]

my gif 😞

[wild wind]

Someone in my squad made an interesting observation last time I ran ETA that when the Murmur show up it's a three-way enemy fight

and that led to us trying to figure out if there was any map where four factions show up for a crossfire

[wicked iron]

Ah yeah, that's one of the current things for the Exterminate, right?

[wild wind]

Yep

[dreamy yacht]

I’m so close to r4 hex

Is eta any good

[wicked iron]

Technically any Crossfire or Invasion map that the Stalker or an Acolyte shows up in. XD

[wild wind]

When it happens in 1999 it's Scaldra v. Techrot v. Murmur

[wicked iron]

I like doing ETA. Great rewards