spoiler-chat

[humble wharf]

How does ballas win? Isnt he in the sun

[nova harness]

Whichever you want you can buy the skin later

[nova harness]

It’s like giving Ballas what he wanted

[humble wharf]

Oh yeah

I think you get radiant lotus too

[thick jolt]

Skin can be changed, name and personality are permanent

[clear sparrow]

I went with Natah, but if I could change it again I'd pick Lotus.

[faint thunder]

It actually changes her voice filter, Natah for most robotic, Margulis for no filter at all

So even if you change her skin from Margulis to Lotus, to Natah, she'll have a different voice filter depending on your initial choice

[tropic vapor]

i beat him finally

that wierdly didn't seem to work so i just looked for the orange glow above his head

so, which of the 3 archons is the worst to face as the last of the archons in the new war? i did amar who i think is supposed to be the easiest, but now i have the other two and i need to pick who i face second, wanting the 3rd to be easier

[wicked iron]

The voice is tied to the chosen skin.

Which can be changed any time.

[livid finch]

Lizzie just did a >:3 at me!!! Incredible update

[faint thunder]

See that's what I thought so too, but it turns out it's irrespective of the skin

Slapped on the Margulis skin and she's robotic in voice

[wicked iron]

It didn't used to be that way. Maybe a bug?

[spice wyvern]

um. well this is a thingy

found this in the camp

any ideas?

and no i didn't put that there

[hearty pendant]

that's the little zariman lamp thing we see in TNW, yeah?
maybe operator brought it with them during the transfer or something

[spice wyvern]

maybe

weird spot to put it ngl

[amber terrace]

She did it. She actually did it!

She somehow found a way to escape the loop!

[gentle cape]

GOOD FOR HER!! GOOD FOR HER!!!!

altho what she says is actually p interesting too bc that means shes been there The Whole Time,,

[amber terrace]

Loid’s probably in full send panic mode rn lmao

Ngl I wanna see Kaya chat up Loid just to see if she can go band for band or if she’ll break his brain

[tropic vapor]

i need tips for fighting nira

new war nira as drifter btw

[rotund night]

well, she is now in the era in which everyone loves her (players)

[amber terrace]

I still wanna throw the guy that leaked her into the Helminth

[rotund night]

totally

[graceful socket]

is everyone geting associates with flare

is it a bug ?

[amber terrace]

Either bug, or, what I’m thinking is that Flare is marking us as associates for professionalism reasons

[graceful socket]

cause i did all the convoes right and they are hanging out

and wrighting a song

[amber terrace]

But then again, most rock stars aren’t exactly paragons of professionalism

[graceful socket]

did anyone actualy get best friends ?

[rain otter]

Okay flare has 1 more conversation

It seems.

[upbeat kiln]

YOOO SHE MADE IT YALL

[graceful socket]

everyone does

[amber terrace]

RRRAAAAAHHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

[rain otter]

Hmmmmmm

Do they all have the same amount of conversations? If so Flare's last one isn't procing correctly

[graceful socket]

ye all of them do

[rain otter]

Have you gotten Flares last convo?

If not you might get best friends Tommorrow.

[median quiver]

oh god i thought i had to start all over with everyone

managed besties with everyone except them, kimulacrum says there is one last convo yeah

[graceful socket]

its a bug

most likely

[rain otter]

You know what would be funnier? That everyone else wasn't supposed to be best friends yet.

[median quiver]

our drifters are just that rizzful

[oblique coral]

I just had what I feel like might be my last convo with Flare/Lizzie, and even though this sounds like the good ending, my relationship status says otherwise.

I'm so confused, is this a bug?

[nimble valley]

Yeah I got a different conversation than that today,and I'm also associates

Like I should've been on track to best friends but I think it's bugged

[oblique coral]

That makes me so sad. I hope they can fix it without me having to go all the way around with everyone again. 😦

I made a forum post to report it as a bug, so, here's hoping anyway.

[barren sparrow]

I got this too, I just came here to ask if anyone knew anything about it 😄

[worn fjord]

I’m so confused too. Everything worked out with Flare and Lizzie and I got associates???😭😭

[rapid talon]

Why did I said the thing I needed to hear the most?

[worn fjord]

Oh I love this convo!!!! I definitely chose the same response and unexpectedly needed to hear it too

[worn fjord]

Ohhh there’s one more convo with Lizzie and Flare so that’s why it’s at Associates for now.. no wonder

[rain otter]

there is ONE MORE CHAT

do we don't KNOW.

wait one more day and see if it's still bugged.

[worn fjord]

Hopefully it’s not a bug but oh well…

[tight pagoda]

That one more chat also ends immediately / doesn't show up if you're not best friends

[worn fjord]

I think it’s more likely that if you managed to help Flare and Lizzie then that convo would happen even if “Associates” is a bug

[rain otter]

ARE YOU SURE?

[tight pagoda]

Well, FlareRank6 convo ends immediately if "Lizzie Apart" is true or "Lizzie Together" is false— and to get BestFriends with them, you need "LizzieTogether" to be true. If this was the case, most people would have LizzieTogether, meaning they should be showing Best Friends with them right now

So hopefully it's just a bug of showing the wrong Rank, and not a matter of them not giving you the Boolean for the good ending

[amber terrace]

This is the description of mine, I hope that I’m bugged because my most recent two convos were Flare and Lizzie making music together

[soft coral]

It seems to be bugged yeah, everyone seems to have gotten "Associates" despite helping Lizzie and Flare enjoy one another

[hearty pendant]

seems to be bugged for most people, me included
hopefully updates tomorrow w/ the last convo

[tight pagoda]

Yeah my convo today was literally about Lizzie helping Flare with lyrics

I didn't get any gold text during the chat but I highly doubt that it was enough to split them apart

[soft coral]

Mine was ||Lizzie literally purring after eating an ice cream Sundae Amir made for her, and Flare smiling. like, no way that doesn't indicate they're both happy, right???||

No gold on mine either but yeah, no way it wasn't enough to make them happy

[steel perch]

Are lizzie and flare supposed to be one entity i was under the impression that the frame was was one person and another person get put in the guitar

[soft coral]

Lizzie was made from Flare's blood, Lizzie is a part of Flare yes

[tight pagoda]

Lizzie didn't exist beforehand though, if that's what you're thinking

She was basically just a manifestation of Flare's needs at the time

[steel perch]

awe so it is a more sever case of multiple personality disorder

[tight pagoda]

Not quite, Lizzie was made from their Techrot infested blood

She can take over their body but it's more symbiotic

Like she's basically Venom and Flare is Eddie Brock, if you compare it to the Venom movies

Right down to eating weird stuff!

[zenith jacinth]

Lizzie is the most coherently speaking direct link to the helminth we have so far

[steel perch]

awe i kept referring as 2 different people thinking liz was trying to take over cause liz wanted a body again but thanks for the clarification

[tight pagoda]

Aw dang this was the ">:3" chat wasn't it

[zenith jacinth]

That would be yesterday

You might be a day behind?

[tight pagoda]

Nah it took me an extra day to get them together because I messed up the first chance

I think the branches repeat

[zenith jacinth]

L

[tight pagoda]

Somewhat

[thick cedar]

wait what that convo was yesterday?

I got it today

[tight pagoda]

Yeah it can occur twice

Well not twice

But the branches are available in two separate convos if you weren't able to trigger the first one

[thick cedar]

interesting

[tropic vapor]

drifter/operator choice doesn't matter much still right?

and uh, don't mind the map, game bugged and its been stuck all cutscene

[obtuse gyro]

Yeap

[tropic vapor]

good to know, kinda feel like an a*s going operator all the way

[sudden grail]

What does Kaya refers to with the "U know I was here before going to 1999"

[tropic vapor]

CAYDE IS BACK! yay... now i don't need to suffer from armor

[tidal spruce]

Don't wanna drop it in Captura channel since it's still recent and this was more of a test anyway, but for anyone curious, Kaya shows up in the Larunda Scene as well as the actual relay

She seems happy, love that for her

[tight pagoda]

They implication is that she was there to begin with and Drifter knows but didn't tell her so that she could do it herself

[worn fjord]

Technically Drifter kept it a secret from the player too

[tight pagoda]

Yeah either that or Kaya is completely wrong about it and we just pretend she isn't to feel better about ourselves

[worn fjord]

That also makes sense yea lol

[twin wolf]

SHE ACTUALLY DID IT

what a champ

[jagged sable]

Happy for Kaya! TTwTT

[rapid talon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-stromalia-shesgoated-gif-2005646096927447851

an entire character arc happening just behind our backs

[rain otter]

Behind?

You make her appear there.

It's infront of you.

[tropic vapor]

i beat the new war! took 2 runs tho and about 30 or so runs to deal with amar... somehow i beat the other 2 archons first try.. got another weapon from the drifter.. not sure i wanna use it after watching him shove it where the sun don't shine on a narmer corpus tho

[balmy storm]

There’s a Larunda Relay captura scene?

[tight pagoda]

Congrats!

[tropic vapor]

thank you... tho admittedly the 30 tries for amar may of been down to the fact i hadn't slept in 30 or so hours and i've only slept 6 between the last attempt and the final attempt but i did it... now i just have to figure out which quest to do now, saving whispers in the wall for last, so much to do again... and a hammer i can finally play with

[rain otter]

Zariman.

Zariman is good content.

[steep totem]

You beat Boreal first try?
How?!
...or did you never go to Earth as Drifter?

[barren sparrow]

wait where does one get this captura scene? The only relay scene listed for captura on the wiki is Hydroid's. Is that the right one?

[tidal spruce]

Yeah, the Hydrioid Relay scene. Sowwies, used to calling it Larunda since it, well, is

[tight pagoda]

Veilbreaker is a fun side quest that also unlocks some endgame stuff, Jade Shadows is a very beautiful, Stalker-Focused story

[hearty pendant]

• zariman and whispers are pretty similar quests, purely design wise
  don't want to do the same thing twice, right next to each other

[barren sparrow]

Hydroid's statue is never there when I go, so thank you! 😄

[tropic vapor]

i bean the snake and boreal first try but the wolf, amar took forever, i went to earth as drifter im pretty sure

[rain otter]

They said they wanted to do it last.

Zariman can take a long time.

[tropic vapor]

oh?

[rain otter]

Also it's some of the best content in the game. It's like in my top 3 updates.

[tropic vapor]

noted

[steep totem]

Boreal is the one that took forever for me
Stoopid owl kept healing himself

[rain otter]

Yeah have you seen how like 1999 or whispers work?

[tropic vapor]

not yet, haven't spoiled myself on those two, i hear they are amazing

[rain otter]

I like Zariman a little more than whispers. Zariman is really fun and has my favorite boss in the game in it.

[hearty pendant]

yeah, agreeing with you in that zariman is a good 'next quest' to do, especially if they're doing whispers last
adding on that they're similar in the ||run through the different gamemodes in this new area|| piece

[tropic vapor]

oh? ah yea, i saved him for last, vapourised him with hildryn

[tropic vapor]

oh? imma be chilling for a while, had enough of bosses after amar

[rain otter]

It's not hard

Also it's optional.

[steep totem]

Funny, I did Amar last
Umbra took him down easily (well, as easily as you can take down a teleporting illusionist enemy )

[rain otter]

The archons are not my favorite bosses in the game lmao

[tropic vapor]

yea, but boss health bars are gonna be making my blood pressure rise for a little while 😓 i painted the lavatory red with a nosebleed from it

[tropic vapor]

i mean, exalted blade goes brrr

[rain otter]

Woof. Zariman or vielbreaker are like what's up next for you.

[tropic vapor]

i mean, the owl was pretty fun, partly cus he doesn't move even when lit up by a machine gun who's bullets go boom

[rain otter]

Also the nataruk is funny cuz its a great weapon for zero forma.

[tight pagoda]

Yeah Archon Hunt missions are like level 150 I think

[tropic vapor]

aye, probably gonna gear up, play like i did for months prior

[rain otter]

Veilbreaker doesn't use your gear.

Zariman is also not that hard you'll be fine.

[tropic vapor]

uuuh, that steel path or no?

[prime lantern]

The last good boss fight imo is the ropalyst

[tropic vapor]

nah i got a booster from beating the new war so imma use it

[tight pagoda]

Nope but it's technically easier

And they're not forced-Solo (the Veilbreaker quest is, but the Archon Hunts that are unlocked can be done with groups)

What MR are you btw?

[rain otter]

I disagree with so many parts of that. The tank is good angles are good. Angels are my favorite boss fight ever.

[tropic vapor]

still need to figure out how to use and build oberon, jade, a couple other things, plus a funny hamma

[tight pagoda]

At MR14, you get some very powerful guns from the Zariman

[rain otter]

Oberon is a old man

No one can really use him.

[tropic vapor]

im 13 currently

[tight pagoda]

Ah, not too far then!

[tropic vapor]

really? had my best run in the circuit with him

[tropic vapor]

ye

[tight pagoda]

Circuit isn't the best gauge because of Decrees modifying and empowering you so much

[rain otter]

Oberon isn't on the same level as like

Loki of bad but he is down there.

[tropic vapor]

to be fair i got kinda bad ones that only effected my weapons, in terms of frame boosting, little to anything survivability wise.. i remember it well cus i was making kettle noises at my 14th crit modifier

crits mean nothing with only 11% chance to proc

[tight pagoda]

That's fair!

I don't think there's really such a thing as a "bad" Warframe

[tropic vapor]

tho admittedly how i perform in games is always really wierd...

as in im better out of practice than in practice

[tight pagoda]

yeah that makes sense actually, being out of practice means you don't rely on old habits and learn the new things

I only recently stopped trying to build all my Warframes to try and take advantage of all 3 umbral mods

[tropic vapor]

you say that... but its had me set a world record in audio surf

given its not even remotely impressive

as i think only 10 other people ever played the song but still, i pulled triple the score after 6 months out of the game

[rain otter]

WELL with intervate.

oh you probably don't have intervate.

[tropic vapor]

not a sausage (means i have no idea what that even is)

[rain otter]

Zariman is a area where that booster would be useful.

"Secondary Enervate-On Hit:
Increase Critical Chance by 10%. Resets after 6 Big Critical Hits." this is a arcane for secondaries.

ACTUALLY The zariman will probably be your first like actually good arcanes for all your warframes.

and amp and even operator really.

Zariman is not a open world btw. If that is your question. @tropic vapor

[final oasis]

hey, are the final convos with flare and lizzie bugged?

both a friend and i got associate, and we did every convo right, according to the kimulacrum website and a couple other sources ||got flare and lizzie to work together as one on the first shot, never got the lizzie jumpscare, the lizzie enemy stuff, or any of that, and ended with flare happy and lizzie purring?? that seems like the good ending?||

[steep totem]

We theorize in #techrot-encore that it is the same bug as the Best Friends/Loved bug

[final oasis]

or did both of us just tunnelvision so hard we screwed up and missed the point with them?

[final oasis]

ohhh, thank you!

[steep totem]

Just a theory, mind you
If next daily reset doesn't fix anything, this may be a whole nother apple

[rain otter]

I think their should just be 1 more talk

and you should get it after tommorrow @steep totem is that what y'all came too as well?

[final oasis]

but Associate is the failstate, right? why would it trigger the fail state if there's another one to go?

[steep totem]

If it's the same thing, yes

[rain otter]

code weridness.

Best friends happens even when you dating when it's not supposed to so like SHRUG.

[steep totem]

what I'm currently experiencing with Eleanor

[rain otter]

i mean no dialog or checks change

just you need to go to loved before they move in.

[steep totem]

True

[rain otter]

like give her any gift

and she should go to loved.

[steep totem]

Did
Just have to log in to check
Will be doing that tomorrow

[rain otter]

or any loved gift.

or go on any mission with her.

[tropic vapor]

i kinda figured that part cus i have the companion app

[rain otter]

what do you mean?

[amber terrace]

How did Kaya get to Mercury?

[rain otter]

okay if they followed our Signature they could have followed it to a relay.

since it's a place we've been often.

[tropic vapor]

open worlds have a cycle daynight/warmcold etc, the app tells me where those cycles are at, it has no cycle for the zariman

[rain otter]

OR if you want you could say she got to earth to cetus and then Since she's basiclly a warframe they took her where she wanted to go. @amber terrace

[rain otter]

There is a cycle not day or not. just Grinner or corpus enemies.

[tropic vapor]

yea, im refering to open world cycle/status

[rain otter]

This is a cycle

i think it's every hour?

[plush swan]

Unintenional humor in Archon Defense:
Wave 6: Chipper: "Scan's uh, yeah, scan's about half-done, I reckon."
Complete: Lotus: "The scans are complete, Tenno. Prepare for an assault on the Archon."

[tropic vapor]

yea, but its called open worl status, hence me saying status, as in, i know the zariman isn't an open world as it does not have OPEN WORLD STATUS showing a cycle both on the orbitor and in the companion app.

[rain otter]

oh sure.

i think it is in the orbiter when you get there let me peep it.

@tropic vapor OH YOU JUST DID THE NEW WAR. you can make the drifter camp your defualt login.

[tropic vapor]

wha? k you are all over the shop and i am running on 6 hours of sleep in 48 hours.. imma just hit the hay..

[rain otter]

Oh you where right about it not being on the cycles

[tropic vapor]

yea

[rain otter]

just i also had that other thought.

you can either have your like "base" be the orbiter or drifter camp.

also the day night of the Drifter camp is that of cetus

i was trying not to spoil it Red.

that's fair.

[balmy storm]

Time travel

[lofty girder]

Argon crystals

[balmy storm]

Nah those disappear

The real answer is us, we act as a light house

[rain otter]

back to the void.

which wild.

[balmy storm]

Ye

I love the argon crystal lore

[tight pagoda]

Wonder how many times I picked up the same Argon crystal

[hearty pendant]

does that mean there's technically a limited number of argon crystals?
or do the ones we use also go back at some point?

[lofty girder]

What if we don't actually consume argon crystals? And instead just use the decay process as a vessel for certain processes in crafting?

[rain otter]

Probably not.

They are seemingly created in the void.

[scenic bronze]

uh?!

[rain otter]

This is spoilers.

the good kaya ending has her in a relay in non-1999.

[fading current]

Kaya, Kaya, Kaya, Excalibur, and Kaya 🤣

[modest mortar]

Jade UwU

[nova harness]

Looks like Kaya went back to the future

[tidal spruce]

Me and some very likeminded homies showed up to see our girl off to live her best life. Honestly immaculate vibes just chilling in the relay all nostalgic like

[fading current]

Uhhh eternalism go brrrrr

[lofty girder]

I want kaya to leave Peely Pix in every relay and major syndicate hub

[tight pagoda]

Slap stickers everywhere like she's Miles Morales in ITSV

Or a random chance for her pop up around Relays and hubs like MITW and greet you

Like a "Hey Kiddo" but not evil

[lofty girder]

"Kaya was here"

She hangs with kahl and grills fish

[tidal spruce]

YES

[nova harness]

I wonder what Kaya thinks of the future

[lofty girder]

Different, but the same

[fading current]

She calls the relay a mall but like futuristic or something lmao. I’ve only heard a few bits of her dialogue but I’m so happy for her

[nova harness]

She just said that dude has flesh arms and like a robot head

I wonder which dude she means

[lofty girder]

So Solaris member

[nova harness]

Forgot there's Solaris in relays lol

[tidal spruce]

If you head back to 1999 Post-Kaya Time Travel one of her greetings outside the bar voices her support for Solaris United, so either the Solari on the Relay told her about them or she made a pitstop on her way from Earth to Mercury

[clear sparrow]

Would be weird for Kaya to call us Kiddo though considering we're literally thousands of years old at this point.

Wally doing it makes sense because even thousands of years is probably nothing compared to how long that eldritch being has been existing.

[nova harness]

It is still our nickname

[tidal spruce]

tbf Wally calls us kiddo because that's what our dad on the Zariman called us. For me it's always read as more mocking than an actual age signifier

[clear sparrow]

Also fair.

IIRC they call Albrecht "Little Bengel" which is what his parents called him.

[tidal spruce]

Wally's MO seems to be probing peoples' memories of childhood to look for ammo which is like hella sketchy Ballas-tier behavior

[clear sparrow]

Agreed.

Ballas and Wally would either get along famously or hate each other if they ever met.

[nova harness]

Orokin used his fingers he doesn't like them

[torpid musk]

Where tf is Kaya, I’m in larunda relay but can’t find her :(

[blissful magnet]

So the trick to time travel is Helminth? Or am I getting something wrong?

[torpid musk]

Nvm found her

[graceful zodiac]

Time travel just requires the Void

[blissful magnet]

So the drifter's time reset is not unique to them anymore?

[graceful zodiac]

It is. Only them and Albrecht can reset the 99 loop

[blissful magnet]

Yeah but he can only do it for a day and they can for a year?

Although should we be helping Kaya escape? Seems like it'll get Wally interested. I'm not sure if I like this small steps hero approach.

[graceful zodiac]

We don't know how long Albrecht could do it for, it was just for a day by the time we arrived

[blissful magnet]

Hmmm. I'm still not sure if protoframes should travel to the present.

[nova harness]

Why?

[blissful magnet]

Minus the fact that I think the Drifter is busy playing therapist for people when they're carrying a lot themselves? It seems very shortsighted. I know it's great to get them, but how does this then stop Wally at all? Why do 1999 if you could just yank them from 1999 and bring them over and let the city explode?

[nova harness]

Getting to know them allowed us to bring them back to life and Love is poison to Wally

We can't just yank them all from 1999

Only 1 at a time and how long is uncertain

[rain otter]

i would do anything for more peely pix.

i need these stikcers.

i actually wish they where able to be used in more places.

even just the other EDA please DE.

[undone lodge]

We need to bring back modified samples from the Vessels, and use those to finish off their transformation, preserving them. Then, through the increased control over their technocyte and Eleanor’s psychic abilities they will be able to become one, Voltron style, and Drifter will be able to use Transference to bring them all into Origin

[nova harness]

I wonder if putting our hand on 2 of their shoulders would let us send 2 out

[undone lodge]

Maybe we could have 4 of them lift us up

2 at the arms 2 at the legs

Full Squad

[nova harness]

Should've sent Operator into 1999 too for the other 2

Totally nothing would go wrong

[lofty girder]

Imagine slapping a pix on an archon and going "nah, your abilities don't work now"

[undone lodge]

Wally tweaking after the Operator boops his nose and puts a sticker on his forehead and now he can’t change from Rusalka’s form

[gentle cape]

THE CIVVIES HAVE VOICELINES TOO

"yeah. entrati was planning more than just a nuke." arthur i love you & your blatant hatred and mistrust of albrecht

[balmy storm]

[lofty girder]

The consequences of Toxic Yaoi

[gentle cape]

aight time to go afk & listen to minvel be mean to each other bc theyd rather do That than set down & talk.

.......actually: how the hell did vel wear a turtle-neck sweater beneath all that...?????

& how did they both manage to find zippers in all of that armor—

[lofty girder]

How do most of the hex have clothes... Actually how much of Minerva's outfit is Saryn and how much is it regular clothing?

[gentle cape]

EXACTLY

i think its easy to see it w the hex + kaya but the parents are just. ????????????

[lofty girder]

Like Aoi i headcanon is basically wearing a Virgin-killer sweater underneath all her mag gear

[wicked narwhal]

Oh man don't get me started on the weird mix of fabric and metal that seems to be Quincy lol

[vocal steppe]

this is great

[wicked narwhal]

I'm still too shocked that she got out at all

[vocal steppe]

I only got 2/3 to best friends 😭

[nova harness]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-1999-the-hex-drifter-begin-again-gif-639103360702619643

Let me guess you failed with Flare and Lizzie

[vocal steppe]

yes

[nova harness]

So far it seems to be the one causing most issues

[vocal steppe]

I think I made the wrong dialogue choice at the last possible point

[balmy storm]

Kaya's line delivery here is wild

[nova harness]

Oh no Simaris is gonna put him into the Sanctuary

[balmy storm]

oh noooooo

[undone lodge]

Unless it spoils a specific convo, what’s the context for this?

[balmy storm]

She saw a cephalon

[humble bluff]

Is she in the future

[balmy storm]

Did you see the pic?

[humble bluff]

Yes, is that the future

[undone lodge]

Yes

[balmy storm]

Yes :p

[undone lodge]

That’s a relay, in the modern Origin system

[balmy storm]

That’s the Larunda Relay
Or
Particularly that’s the Hydroid Relay Captura Scene but it uses the Larunda Relay

[humble bluff]

Yoooo that’s cool, is it just picking the correct dialogue options to do that

[balmy storm]

Ye you probably need to get her good ending

Which I did

[steep totem]

Unless Amir gets to Cy first
Come to think of it, that's an interaction I'd PAY to see...

Amir and any/all of the Cephalons, tbh
But Cy definitely

[tropic vapor]

jade is the enemy ac-130

[modest mortar]

If ya need help with Jade, ig ask

[tropic vapor]

oh? will do, currently deciding on if i should do jade shadows next or one of the others i unlocked upon beating the new war since i got jade from the steam bundle cus supporting the good good games

i gotta get some tyres printing for my rc dakar kamaz master first tho

[modest mortar]

I say do it

[tropic vapor]

oh? jade shadows that good eh?

[steep totem]

I say do it for the plain and simple fact that you play as THE STALKER

but yes, it is actually that good

[tropic vapor]

ooh, i beeen able to do that in the circuit for a while now, not that i tried tho, is he fun then?

[balmy storm]

Ye

Play Jade shadows

[steep totem]

People say he's just another Ash (which is actually closer to truth since Fatal Teleport got added to the base ability)
But make no mistake, Stalker is his own beast, and I'd play as him every chance I get

His passive is fun tho

[tropic vapor]

oh? i know i like his scythe tho

[steep totem]

Take a look at his abilities when you get the chance

[lofty girder]

was it crit boost or base damage while invis? i forgor

[tropic vapor]

will do

[steep totem]

Iirc it was +300% crit chance

[zenith jacinth]

+300% crit chance on enemies that haven't seen you

[steep totem]

That was it

[zenith jacinth]

The wording is oddly specific, I think you lose the bonus on enemies that see you before you go invis

Which means his 4 can never get the bonus bc it breaks invis

[tropic vapor]

im bouta boot up and log in, how would you suggest i build jade?

[modest mortar]

There are a few ways to build her, first you kinda need to decide if you wanna use her altfire a lot or not

but otherwise range and strength

and mind your energy, so some equilibrium/purple shard for energy

or nourish instead of 1 like me

[tropic vapor]

so here is my jade, now while i have shards from an alert i cannot use them as i don't have the resources to make the segment yet

[tropic vapor]

and this is how i have her built currently

[modest mortar]

Do you have the velocity arcane?

also if you want to use her altfire a lot, a bit more range is good

Aviator for exilus is another good thing to have

[tropic vapor]

that one? yea, its just i don't have it ranked

[tropic vapor]

alt fire as in when in 4 there is something other than the ac130 gunship fire?

[modest mortar]

it is pretty much a musthave for her primary fire with glory

[modest mortar]

Yes

when you throw her 1 and altfire

[tropic vapor]

oh okay interesting

also this is how i have glory set up at the moment but im thinking of investing a little forma to get access to some blast radius mods

[modest mortar]

I do not think blast radius mods work on it

Ability range does

[tropic vapor]

don't they? damn, i was hoping i could make glory a full on gunship mode

oooh?

[modest mortar]

looks good for now

[tropic vapor]

k

[tropic vapor]

also this is what i got for range mods at the moment

[modest mortar]

But if you have the aviator exilus, that might be a better choice

Well for range, if you plan to use her primary fire mostly, then no need really for too much

[tropic vapor]

this one?

[modest mortar]

Yes

[tropic vapor]

fair

[tropic vapor]

k installed

gotta finish leveling her soon, i might do that while grinding ducats

[modest mortar]

she is very fun

[tropic vapor]

ye

[modest mortar]

I subsumed nourish on her and got a full on blast viral ac-130

well now I use full on heat with nourish

[tropic vapor]

hehehe, noice, im doing viral heat cus armor

[modest mortar]

but will go back to blast nourish

[olive river]

I personally would rather not replace any of her abilities

[tropic vapor]

im still trying to figure out her armor strip tho

[modest mortar]

once they fix the altfire modding thing, I might agree, but honestly nourish is the perfect subsume

[modest mortar]

More strength means faster strip

[olive river]

Just stare at someone for a few seconds with her 3rd active

[tulip moon]

Orphim eyes is passive stripping, just have to look at a general direction

[olive river]

If they do fix that all I see is a huge buff to my current build lol, she already oneshots entire rooms

[tropic vapor]

cus this is where mine is at

[tropic vapor]

that much i know

[modest mortar]

Well if all the enemies are stacked close to each other

[olive river]

It applies heat once you fully strip, so it's nice if you decide to use a topaz archon shard

[olive river]

Which happens a TON in sp and later

[modest mortar]

its gets better if you cast it with your ability strength buff active

but getting a lot of ab strength is always good

[tropic vapor]

i need to get the archon segment resources soon. but first baro and primed mods

[modest mortar]

Gosh I hate typing "strength"

[olive river]

Lol

[modest mortar]

I wanna just say stent

[tropic vapor]

it is an annoyingly complexe word tbf

[modest mortar]

steng

[olive river]

I forget what I use in my exilus slot, I think it was power drift for strength

[tropic vapor]

hnm?

[olive river]

Hey I want my perfect 200%

[modest mortar]

I have like 240 stent and that one for stent on her 4, focused one

[olive river]

I don't really need aviator if I'm going to be using secondary fortifier

[modest mortar]

Fair, I just see it as an obvious choice

[tropic vapor]

i think the only frame i understand the armor strip on is my frost prime with 110% armor strip

[olive river]

She's already pretty hard to die with even with just her 2 and 4, aerodynamic just makes it easier

[modest mortar]

Jade just strips people with her eyes

[zenith jacinth]

Heh

[olive river]

TRUE

[tropic vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-sterling-archer-hey-phrasing-phrasing-gif-4228674

[modest mortar]

I know what I said

[tropic vapor]

heheehehehe

[olive river]

[zenith jacinth]

Why

[tropic vapor]

well im off, gonna find people who are up to grinding for ducat parts

[modest mortar]

so painful to write

[tropic vapor]

while i level up jade

[olive river]

Rq what auras do you have rn?

Things like energy siphon and dreamers bond don't help her much because she can't regen energy over time in her 4

[tropic vapor]

to be fair i use them for in between, especially when i am leveling weapons

[olive river]

I personally use physique and aerodynamic

[tropic vapor]

also cus wolf hamma funny hamma

[olive river]

Ah makes sense

But if you want to spend a lot of time in her 4 eventually you will want to swap those out

[tropic vapor]

aye

albeit the only useful one si have besides those is rifle amp and physique

[olive river]

Physique is nice if you don't want to use a slot on vitality

[tropic vapor]

tru tho i rarely build for health

[olive river]

Yeah and it helps your team a little

[tropic vapor]

also fair

[olive river]

Jade can heal with her 1st so dreamers bond is not really needed

Especially with how little dreamers bond actually gives

[tropic vapor]

to be honest, both aura mods are there for energy and compatibility sake and to open up more points for mods

i uh, yea i think i only have 6 aura mods

[olive river]

That's valid

[prime gust]

Well since this is technically a spoiler for a main story quest I’ll post this here.
I present to you : the Operator Gun ft.Koumei

[tropic vapor]

ye

[gentle cape]

i can trade some prime parts... but for plat...

[tropic vapor]

i mean i am just farming parts

[tropic vapor]

so, what should i do first?

saving whispers in the wall for last

[fossil gazelle]

jade shadows was the most fun for me tbh, and its not too long

[tight pagoda]

Jade Shadows is 20-ish minutes long and doesn't require any loadout. It also only unlocks one node.

[thick jolt]

angels has less direct story but unlocks a whole area
jade has imo a better story but unlocks only a single mission node

[tight pagoda]

Whispers unlocks 5-6 ish, a new syndicate, and it's about 40 minutes? And you do need a decent amp and weapons

[fossil gazelle]

both are worth imo

[thick jolt]

yup

[fossil gazelle]

the lore of jade shadows, especially whats told before leading up to it, is peak

[crystal agate]

I did whispers with the sirocco lol

[tight pagoda]

Yeah the order isn't important either because neither of these quests have a "sequel" yet

[tropic vapor]

noted, so im stonewalled then cus im still using the mote amp or the drifter pistol thing

[tight pagoda]

Sirroco might do

[crystal agate]

I wouldn't say that, I managed to do it with the drifter pistol

it can deal with the specific enemy that needs it if you get headshots

[fossil gazelle]

sirocco isnt bad for that point in the game

[crystal agate]

but making an amp certainly makes it easier

[thick jolt]

yeah it's not impossible just... inconvenient ?

[crystal agate]

I stuck with the sirocco for a LONG time because I just do not like open world farming lol

[tight pagoda]

Yeah basically there's an enemy type similar to the Vomalysts in Plains of Eidolon, where you kill them either your Warframe and then they have a "ghost" mode that only dies via Amp

[tropic vapor]

the dificulty part is, the good versatile parts are behind a standing wall

[crystal agate]

tbh even a 111 amp will be completely fine

[fossil gazelle]

i still use sirocco and im working towards steel path lol

[crystal agate]

I used the sirocco deep into SP until like 400h in LOL

[tight pagoda]

147 and never looked back, personally

[fossil gazelle]

yeah sirocco is more than fine for where theyre at

[tropic vapor]

which is that one? the grenade launcher?

[crystal agate]

nah its the first thing you can get from the quills

basically amps have 3 components that have 7 parts each

[tight pagoda]

Nah it's the basest of custom amps, made from the first things you can get from the quills

[crystal agate]

so a 111 is the first option for each component

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Amp

[fossil gazelle]

i dont think ive interacted with the quills even once

[tropic vapor]

a pure beam?

[crystal agate]

so in this case, the raplak prism, pencha scaffold, and clapkra brace

[tight pagoda]

Nah that's Mote, kinda garbage

But a good beginner

[crystal agate]

the grenade launcher is iirc the exard?

[tropic vapor]

honestly i like it cus it makes aiming easier, i have really jittery aim

[crystal agate]

I use a 157 myself

they aren't really that hard to farm, I just hate fishing lol

[tight pagoda]

Raplak is a hitscan (instantly hits whatever you're looking at, no waiting for the projectile to hit)

[thick jolt]

in that case shwaak could be good since it shoots like the arca plasmor, its just a wave of energy

[tropic vapor]

oh?

[tight pagoda]

Tbh they should totally let you try out Amps and Kitguns and all the modular stuff in simulacrum or something

[tropic vapor]

wave as in flame thrower wave or wave as in pulses? i haven't seen the arca plasmor yet

[thick jolt]

pulse

[tropic vapor]

i don't even have that yet

[thick jolt]

flame thrower would be one of the fortuna ones, literally

think it even does heat damage

[tight pagoda]

Which Focus class are you?

[tropic vapor]

oh? toasty

[tropic vapor]

madurai

[tight pagoda]

Because honestly with Madurai none of this matters as far as the base quest goes

[thick jolt]

but yea shwaak is just wide pulses

[rain otter]

1 is really good.

[tropic vapor]

so a shotgun without gaps in spread?

[rain otter]

A 111 is ten times better than the mote

[thick jolt]

basically
also why i used arca plasmor as an example bcs it is literally that

[rain otter]

Only like 2 times better than the siccoro.

[tight pagoda]

I also recommend unlocking Unairu and unbinding it

[rain otter]

Equip the siccoror

[tight pagoda]

Let's you self revive

[thick jolt]

think like a shotgun that fires a car wide slug of energy lol

[tropic vapor]

makes sense

[tropic vapor]

to be honest, i already was cus its timed reload it useful when i can't be bothered

[tight pagoda]

Sirocco + Madurai will definitely get you through Angels without a hitch

[rain otter]

Also its way easier to get. Ullt focuses lenses now.

[tropic vapor]

im not that well leveled up in madurai tho

[rain otter]

Like bird 3 sells fully built eidolon lenses.

[rain otter]

Thrax give you what 5000k each? 3k focus each when you kill.them.

[tight pagoda]

Yeah run a bit of Duviri

[tropic vapor]

yea, thats how i got to where im at but that took months while trying not to burn out

also

[rain otter]

111

Zariman has the best arcanes

For your operator and

Amp.

[tropic vapor]

oh?

[rain otter]

I told you this.

[thick jolt]

btw just in case it wasnt clear when people mention 111 they mean the 3 parts you have available in that screenshot for 1k standing

[rain otter]

Yeah.

[clear sparrow]

I've bought all the amp parts just for completionist sake, but now it's just a matter of figuring out which ones to craft and assemble into an amp.

[tropic vapor]

yea i know, im just humming with semi automatic cus im not very leveled up with madurai nor the energy skills

either way, get the amp going, then jade shadows then wait trying to get the means to use my archon shards, aka resources for the segement

of which i hate random luck cus its never on my side

don't suppose anyone knows where to find cetus wisps?

[soft pumice]

im so glad i got the irl trio of then stalker and jade posters

i have no wall space so they stay rolled up protectave case.

[proud quail]

I'm so happy for them. I definitely have to craft a temple now. I enjoyed talking to them. 🔥

[worn fjord]

I think this entire message from Flare hints at what’s to come unless it’s stuff that’s already happened?

[tawny bolt]

Wonder if there going to be an event related this this down the line

[worn fjord]

Possibly and if they’re talking about events that already happened, I wonder if that means we’ll travel to that past

Was anything related to || Pluto Terminus || mentioned in the lore?

And any mentions of the || “comet that leaves the System?” ||

[proud quail]

Most likely for future. Nevertheless, I am glad that they have joined and now embody the common concept of "temple".

I've noticed that "Ballas" is mentioned too often. I think he'll be back too.

[nimble valley]

They're saying that they're gonna wait on the comet until they can come back and join in on the night of Naga drums ,I think

[worn fjord]

I’m guessing back like Vor in a way

[worn fjord]

Do you know what comet they are referring to?

[nimble valley]

I don't know if it's a comet already mentioned before but there shouldn't be too many

[south fable]

i have never cried at a warframe quest, EXCEPT

i started octavias anthem, i love suda, she reminds me of the best parts of my mama and nan, so she holds a very special place in my heart, and ordis i love because hes a bro and they JUST

THIS GAME

THE GOODBYE OPERATOR?

MY HEART

i am the LEAST bit okay

[delicate lagoon]

So with the latest Flare ending... is knowledge of the Technocyte Coda's existence widespread or just within the Hex?

[rapid talon]

CHAT this, is truly epic, my prayers were answered, ||I got to do naughty things with|| lizzie

[zenith jacinth]

??

[delicate lagoon]

I'm under the assumption that the Coda aren't public knowledge except for HitMaker, Scaldra, Aoi, and Amir

[zenith jacinth]

He already is, in duviri. He will not return normally

[zenith jacinth]

And arthur, and presumably the rest of the protos

[zenith jacinth]

It's stuff that happened before the beginning of the game

[delicate lagoon]

Deeeepends cause some of the dialogue indicates that he's caught off guard by the creation of the Coda

But imo that's perspective

[thick jolt]

basically flare explaining how they will be there for the night of the naga drums as temple

[zenith jacinth]

They*

[thick jolt]

almost forgot sorry

but yeah night of the naga drums is how when we started the orokin slaughter is known

pretty neat of DE to explain how temple will become a thing in the future

or past i guess

[proud quail]

Why is he in Duviri? Ballas himself is not in Duviri. The Warden is only created in the likeness of his image. Most likely, it was Kullervo that failed to kill Ballas. Which is why the warden looks so much like Ballas. Isn't that right?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes. The warden is ballas as kullervo sees him. And it is the closest thing to a return we will ever see

[balmy storm]

He also had a crush on him

Ballas is dead for sure tho

[sudden grail]

So Temple is the warframe is the cryopod on Pluto?

[proud quail]

It's hard to say. Ballas always eluded death. He also opened the void portal twice through Praghasa. He clearly knew that he would not be able to win Lotus and tenno.
But I hope he doesn't come back.

[balmy storm]

No?

[sudden grail]

Istg I ran to terminus mission just hoping to find temple lol

[rain otter]

||only flare gets to do that.||

[amber terrace]

Interesting

I wonder what the Viral couple’s good ending reward is

[rain otter]

Yeah this whole message we where talking about.

They give you a code word

I don't know if it gets used anywhere.

[amber terrace]

Ah, mb, I ADHD monkey’d and was like “respectfully, I’m too scatterbrained to comb through a chat lol” but I wanted to post the Lizzie shawin anyways so here we are lol

[obtuse gyro]

Could you scroll up a smidge

[rain otter]

Oh you didn't do anything wrong.

[rain otter]

I can get you my message in both parts 1 sec.

[amber terrace]

What’s left of my brain is very small

[rain otter]

You're too mean to yourself.

@obtuse gyro here you go buddy.

[obtuse gyro]

Well, thats a hilarious confirmation of 2 different things

1. Flare is the OG Temple
2. DE werent kidding about the linger and fester when they answered my AMA

Oh and 3rd thing, thats half of the new protos using some form of time travel lol

[balmy storm]

[lofty girder]

there's a chat Flag that's enabled but isn't used in any convo for now

[rapid talon]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-4656385985544318455

now hear me out

[rain otter]

no

[exotic meteor]

Better love story than Twilight

[steep totem]

You say that like it's a high bar to meet

[worn fjord]

Ah thanks for clarifying, that makes sense

So then what did Flare mean by the comet?

Was this stated in the lore before?

[steep totem]

Not to my knowledge, at least

Only other significant meteorological event I know of is the asteroid Atlas pummeled

[thick jolt]

Pretty sure they are being literal

Like kaya is nova teleporting them to a comet that will only come back in time for the night and the colapse

[worn fjord]

Same lol

[worn fjord]

Ah okay okay

[rapid talon]

waito a secondo, it's Amir's and Aoi's relationship a wink to those helmets they both have???

[worn fjord]

Which helmet?

[rapid talon]

The mag helmet for volt and the gauss helm...

wait

[steep totem]

Amir is Volt, not Gauss

Don't worry, it happens

[worn fjord]

That’s what I was going to say lol I was confused

[balmy storm]

Gauss has the helmet not volt lol

Gauss has the Mag helmet as a nod to Mag having the Gauss helmet
No relation to the protos

[rapid talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/751042609350180926.png

[balmy storm]

Mostly cause there is no Gauss proto

[steep totem]

yet

[worn fjord]

Talking about Gauss, gosh I love his abilities so much, I’m a main at this point

[balmy storm]

They’re done with 1999 for now
But tbh I’d be down for protos in other time periods

[rapid talon]

So this means Aoi... CHEATED ON AMIR WITH CARL FRIEDRICH GAUSS

[worn fjord]

I wonder what the next main quest will be about

[balmy storm]

Same, more void war probably

[worn fjord]

Void war meaning.. fighting with the Indifference or..?

[undone lodge]

The arc

The story arc we’re in rn is called the void war

[worn fjord]

Ohh it’s called Void war okayyy

[balmy storm]

The void war arc
Which is fighting Wally

[worn fjord]

Lmao idk how I missed the arc’s name 😂

[copper scroll]

has anyone gotten minerva and velimir to reconcile i got associate with them both sadly

[fading current]

I did yea

[copper scroll]

aw man i would try again but i don't want to have to reset

[copper scroll]

awww

[fading current]

Also basically anytime they’ve left KIM chat it was to…go cuddle….since they’ve reconciled lmaoooo

[copper scroll]

omg noice

i am curious though if maybe the birthday chats will help me atleast get closer to them alittle

[fervent patrol]

anyone a clue what today kayas cht means? finde me where you find yourself? its not in the orbiter

[lofty girder]

Larunda

Also fairly sure her success was yesterday, unless you missed a day?

[fervent patrol]

okay it had a new message today, so its finished then

[ionic slate]

Idk how but I apparently messed up flares story and I'm associate...

I thought I got it right...

[teal radish]

I already talked to kaya in Larunda relay and today's message I got a "If you are reading this, find me where you find yourself, wherever you are."

[lofty girder]

Wait... Someone check Teshnin's cave

[teal radish]

I'm boutta

[lofty girder]

Istg if all of Kaya's kimchats are just her leaving cryptic messages as a hint to where she skidaddled off to, imma mald

[velvet marsh]

I think it was bugged, they should have fixed it by now

[ionic slate]

Thank you flare from warframe

[true granite]

cries in failing them

[ionic slate]

But jokes aside that nearly gave me a heart attack

[fallow prism]

OMG YOU GET LIZZIE AS A SHAWZIN

I WAS SO HOPING FOR THAT

Is there a reason I can't move the lizzie decoration or is it just a bug rn ?

[undone lodge]

She got comfy

[glass tulip]

you can get all of the endings with the characters right

[fallow prism]

Damn knew i shoulda put her in a better spot 🤣

[undone lodge]

You mean like, getting good endings one loop and bad endings the next?

[glass tulip]

yes

basically am i locked into a thing and locked out of the rest

[nova harness]

Each 4 weeks you can reset if you failed one

[glass tulip]

okay dope

[tight pagoda]

Just know it resets all chats

[glass tulip]

i know that bc i reset it too early lol

does it ask again at the end of every loop? or will i forget every time

[nova harness]

Every 4 weeks it will ask you

[glass tulip]

okay sick ty

[rain otter]

You can also turn on "play all conversations"

To get all conversations from each hex member before they go on to another like level of chats.

[glass tulip]

eh, i do like playing out the actual intended line though

[rain otter]

What?

This is the intended way

You aren't skipping chats

[glass tulip]

no i know i just mean i like the day to day and only seeing one line each loop

although that second part i realise is still happening

[rain otter]

You only see 1 conversation from each Hex a day still

I think DE changed what thod button did between when they announced it and release.

[glass tulip]

huh

[rain otter]

What do you think the "play all conversations button" does?

[lofty girder]

All conversations are data streamed into your skull simultaneously

[rain otter]

True. No its just it will play all available conversations in a tier (it still does it in the day by day fashion) before moving on to the next tier of conversations

[gilded bolt]

Hello ? any idea where is that ? is it like Larunda ?

[nova harness]

It just means see her in the past or future

[gilded bolt]

ok ok

[rapid talon]

sister hit us with the:

😭

[gilded bolt]

lmao

[small ice]

I became best friends with flare and everytime i go speak to him in the mall lizzie manifests hysterical joy about me and him.

[nova harness]

Lol

[small ice]

I had to say that but doing it in general would cause alyxis to kill me /metaphorical 😭

[rain otter]

Their but yeah.

[warm anvil]

^^ yeah flare is non binary

[mighty nova]

||I don’t know if I’m late to tell you. Or you figure it out but check larunda relay||

Also another anyone else got a msg from flare in their inbox?

[rain otter]

what do you mean?

[mighty nova]

I think after progressing far in the flares Kim I got a message from him saying something about going into Pluto

[rain otter]

that's in your inbox

[mighty nova]

Yes

[rain otter]

also them.also that is Flare's like finally chat.

i'll correct everyone about Flare till i am no longer breathing.

so get ready if you did that on purpose to be correct each time.

[nova harness]

I heard KnightmareFrame lost his profile code thing for this

[rain otter]

Yeah. Good.

Also so many of these people don't understand that David Bowie was like very much not gender conforming at all.

but anyway.

[mighty nova]

Gonna take me while not gonna cap. So just questioning like how kayak in a relaying chilling is their any where on Pluto flare just chilling or rocking out

[rain otter]

he should have actually been banned.

[rain otter]

The message says Pluto Termanius cuz that's where the night of Naga drums happens. Flare is gonna get on a comet and wait till that happens.

[mighty nova]

Oh so probably a mini time event or certain wave reach on that defense mission. Okay thank you

[nova harness]

probably couldn’t because his transphobia was on YouTube not Warframe

[rain otter]

no it's just a lore explaination if why like Temple is called temple whe Flare's stage name is temple. Pluto Termanius isn't on pluto.

also the night of naga drums happens in the old war.

[mighty nova]

I ain’t gonna lie if you didn’t point that out I was about to check Pluto relay

[rain otter]

also it makes flare a

"a starman waiting in the sky"-David Bowie lyric.

also in the email they say like

"i will turn into a full warframe"

so it would be flare like as just temple..

did you read all the email? you should read it again.

[mighty nova]

I did, 1 I just woke and was perplexed 2 I honestly assume it was a kayak in relay type hint so I though hey their probably somewhere on Pluto and 3 I just had to ask to be sure

[rain otter]

lul

that's fair no they are not.

[mighty nova]

Thank you 🙏 for not smiting me down like zesus now pardon me I going back get 5 hours of my sleep back

[true granite]

WTF

he got the "Primed Cry" too xD

[livid portal]

Quick question. Is every player canon in warframe as I've heard it is?

[undone lodge]

Depends

[peak sapphire]

Yes even the quitters and unactives

[livid portal]

Thanks 😊

[thick jolt]

In the context that yeah they exist

But the main tenno is the main tenno the one who shook hands with wally

We see other tenno alluded to in stuff that requires multiple people, generally events
Stuff like relay reconstruction or scarlet spear

[nova harness]

We are all the Chosen Operator we are all not the Chosen Operator but the amount of Tenno there isn’t the 70 or so million as the Zariman wouldn’t have been able to fit that many people

[clear sparrow]

Eternalism in a nutshell.

[balmy storm]

Not eternalism
Gameplay

[balmy storm]

We don’t know how big the Zariman was

[nova harness]

Not big enough for 70 million people

[balmy storm]

Most probably ye

[nova harness]

100% wouldn't be enough rooms for 70 million

[clear sparrow]

We're talking about a civilization that terraformed planets. Making a ship that can hold 70 million people is within their power, I think.

[balmy storm]

Within their power and actually doing it are two different things

[nova harness]

Within their power doesn't mean they did

If it could really hold 70 million there would be mentions of millions of Tenno on a ship

Even if there was 70 million Tenno that would mean millions of parents too

[lofty girder]

I mean, the zariman's scale is on par with some of the smaller moons

I'd say its about the size of Australia

[gentle cape]

sounds abt right since it Looks like australia

[lofty girder]

Looks like a crescent moon tbh

[amber terrace]

Do I still need to roll for psychic damage every time I see PSF on a build that realistically doesn’t need it?

[tame forge]

honestly if he just didnt reply/replied nicely and said something like "oh ok thanks for telling me" he wouldn't have gotten in trouble lol

[thick jolt]

Ehh better that he reveals his true colors so he can be put in a corner and ignored from now on

[tame forge]

i guess, but in his response video he said something like "dont attack DE/anyone for removing my glyph" so he's acting pretty mature in response instead of sending his community on a witchhunt

[prime lantern]

Scale in warframe is odd because going off the sun scene in tnw praghasa is bigger than Jupiter

Which doesn't make sense because each individual murex would be like planet sized based on the concept art

[gentle cape]

yes

[gentle cape]

...what does minerva mean when she says "youd have to think about what we're gonna offer to neci if we want to get her back."??

...offer what? a stable family bc yall are too stuck up in your own heads to actually communicate??

its such a ????? voiceline

[scenic bronze]

THIS
this its the thing that we get from flare
this could totally be related to the plague star event!!
i can feel it in some way!!

[balmy storm]

The plague star comes from Eris

[tight pagoda]

Flare is referencing the Night of the Naga Drums-- where the Orokin were betrayed and slaughtered by the Tenno. This message is them confirming that there is no 'Temple' Warframe before them, they are the same Temple we build (well obviously not the same but y'know)

[amber terrace]

She’s so real for this

And this too

[scenic bronze]

ª

[scenic bronze]

Okey I am lost between all the content
What this mean? Lol

[amber terrace]

Y’know how Kaya has her sights set on getting out of the 1999 loop?

Well she did it. She actually did it

She’s camped up at Larunda Relay, above the Ducat kiosk, and apparently she’s met Solaris and sympathizes with Solaris United, which I find to be amazing

[balmy storm]

I mean technically the same
We perfectly replicate frames, down to their brains

[tight pagoda]

SU is Solaris United, the Fortuna faction, basically she's saying she went there

[scenic bronze]

OH RIGHT
I just totally forget what S.U mean jdksjdksks

[prime lantern]

I doubt that means there was no temple before flare considering warframes version of time is designed to explicitly avoid bootstrap paradoxs

[solar vortex]

isnt eternalism's entire thing paradoxical?

[obtuse gyro]

Still no bootstraps here, since the version of temple we make is drawn from flare, who camps in a rock

[jagged sable]

yeah, all possibilities are true with eternalism iirc.

Eternalism: Into the Tenno-Verse.

[obtuse gyro]

Eternalism =/= bootstrap paradox

[hearty pendant]

eternalism is closer to schrodinger's cat than anything

[rain otter]

That's not how it works

[rapid talon]

Chat, I think it's time to study some quantum mechanics

[gentle cape]

good luck 🫡 (< physics grad)

[wicked iron]

SU?

[amber terrace]

Solaris United

[gentle cape]

solaris united, fortuna faction

[wicked iron]

Oh, duh lol

I thought it was a University at first lol

[amber terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-we-all-lift-together-gif-19925077

[wicked iron]

I just want to talk to her, and the other Hex, with my freaking Operator. >_<

Drifter's fine and all, but I just prefer my Operator lol

[gentle cape]

operator 🤝 kaya: (doesnt like being undermined just bc of their respective ages)

i think itd be really interesting for operator to meet the hex & new protos... new kid for the resident parents to adopt

[wicked iron]

There was someone yesterday or the day before, I think, who was saying Lotus' voice was staying the same even when they changed her skin. The voice does change based on her skin, though. Just tested myself and it still works correctly.

[lofty girder]

No boots in this universe

[graceful zodiac]

Temple is still a bootstrap in their physical existence, Albrecht could only have got a sample for Flare from the fully converted Flare given Ballas never actually made the frame by the emails suggestion

[hearty pendant]

albrecht could've made a sample based on the design ballas made
albrecht made qorvex, so we know he knows how to

[obtuse gyro]

Which we know is not the case, because temple only reappears at the night of naga drums, which is already after albrecht leaves for 1999

[quick smelt]

Everyone thinks only Ballas knows how to make Warframes

It's rather he seems to be the only Orokin allowed to make them. Or at least has a significant say in their creation.

But Temple is weird
Timey winey mumbo jumbo

[wicked iron]

Emails?

[lofty girder]

Are we sure this isn't a Mirage situation where Flare's aura and Circumstances forcibly changed how the Helminth transformed them?

[brave echo]

Im running out of ideas where to look, does anyone know where Im supposed to find Kaya? (the second time, after she shows up in Larunda)

[wicked iron]

||Above the consoles you use to turn Prime parts to Ducats.||

[lofty girder]

I don't think she goes anywhere, there isn't a boolean tied to it iirc

[hearty pendant]

don't think there is a second location other than larunda

[brave echo]

Well I got a second, different "come find me" message. She's still in Larunda but nothing is different there

[hearty pendant]

yeah, that's her last chat
no boolean or anything, as revswagger said, and as far as i've seen, no one else has seen her anywhere else

[brave echo]

The nerve of this girl

[lofty girder]

Trying to be philosophical

[jagged sable]

I think that message was meant for everyone else rather than the drifter.

[pastel spire]

was Kaya really in Larunda this whole time??

[amber terrace]

Unknown, presumably not

Also, was the technocyte coda a prototype at creating Techrot clones? If so, would this have any military applications?

[livid willow]

Quick question is flare planned to appear somewhere in the origin system like Kaya

[hearty pendant]

probably not

[livid willow]

Yeah would be cool though

[rain otter]

Flare says they would be turned into temple by then.

[thick jolt]

Nah their message already mentions they will fully become a warframe while waiting
And besides their target arrival is like the end of the old war

So the message already closed that case pretty solidly

[livid willow]

He says it won’t stop but not it’ll stop while he hibernates it’ll continue there’s a lot to go on right now

[thick jolt]

There isnt anything to go on

[rain otter]

They

[livid willow]

I like to theorize so for me there is a lot of material to go on

[livid willow]

Your right I’m sorry

[thick jolt]

Thats past theorizing tho

[rain otter]

If you didn't mean to

It's okay.

[livid willow]

For you not me

[balmy storm]

Flare showed up as Temple during the Night of the Naga Drums
Which takes place before the game

[livid willow]

Where did you find that because I don’t remember a letter (besides the one about hibernating) or cinematic about it

[tight pagoda]

That's in the letter

[balmy storm]

That
That is the letter :p
they mention something about Octavia beating the drum
Octavia is the one that gave the signal to slaughter the Orokin

With the drum
That’s why it’s the night of the naga drums

[tight pagoda]

They mention Pluto Terminus and being ready when Octavia gives the signal

I think this is the first mention of the slaughter starting on Pluto Terminus

[balmy storm]

Like not much theorizing to be done here ngl

[livid willow]

I’ll need to take a look but he says he’ll be there not something says he was there

[balmy storm]

They.

[livid willow]

I keep doing that by accident I’m not used to nonbinary people

[rain otter]

Night of Naga drums is most explained in the Stalker codex.

[livid willow]

The what

[rain otter]

Its okay if you just trying your best.

[thick jolt]

....

[rain otter]

Stalker if you Scan 3 times has a codex entry.

It's about the night of Naga drums

[livid willow]

Ok I’m gonna do research that involves me staying up all night because apparently I don’t like sleep

[livid willow]

Yeah but nothing says he was actually there but I’m gonna do my research and leave y’all alone for the night/day

[thick jolt]

Is this what the kids call copium?

[rain otter]

We like talking about this.

[tight pagoda]

This says they were there

[rain otter]

Be a little more nice give um a chance.

[balmy storm]

They
And ofc nothing specifies them being there, nothing specifies most frames being there
But Lizzie will wake them when the time is right so they can assist the Tenno.

[tight pagoda]

Flare/Temple lore didn't exist before this update which is why you won't find anything on it

[thick jolt]

Honestly i just feel baffled

[balmy storm]

I think the only two frames we know of that were for sure there are Octavia and Temple now

[livid willow]

I like finding little gaps in stuff and theorize about it so this is why I’m still talking about it

[rain otter]

I mean sure but people gotta learn at some stuff.

[balmy storm]

Jade and Stalker too actually
Really we can assume like. Nearly every frame, spare a few, were present

[rain otter]

@livid willow https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Stalker

[balmy storm]

Like Revenant wasn’t there
But Kullervo was iirc?

[rain otter]

Go to the codex part of this page to learn about the Nighy of Naga drums.

[thick jolt]

Yeah i think kullervo mentions it in the crimes

[livid willow]

Thanks I’ll look at that when I start my research

[rain otter]

Also Pluto termianus is in the orbit around Pluto.

[rain otter]

Kullevro helped stuff at the time but wasn't there in person.

[balmy storm]

I gotta reread his crimes

[livid willow]

I thought kullevro was stuck in duviri the whole time

[thick jolt]

Oh right mirage probably wasnt there because of how lotus remembers her final moments fighting the sentients?

[balmy storm]

We need a census for who was for sure there during the night of the naga drums

[rain otter]

Well he got yeeted there during the old war. You can listen to his crimes in his arena.

[livid willow]

I remember that part I need to do like a whole story break down

[balmy storm]

ofc some frames may have been mass produced
But
Weh

[thick jolt]

We can probably assume any who are regarded as destroyed during the old war werent present

[balmy storm]

Caliban was not there

[livid willow]

See what I mean when I say I keep diving into lore

Another question I have is is what exactly is the drifter/operater

[thick jolt]

The main character

[tight pagoda]

Like, biologically?

[livid willow]

Yes and no I have the flare skin I trade for it and Lizzie calls us a raggedy ghost and made of cobwebs and starlight

That got me going when I heard it

[tight pagoda]

The two of them are songwriters, they're going to be super poetic regarding everything

[livid willow]

Maybe but I’ve seen a few chats where she said the infestation isn’t bound by time so it would make sense she would know what we are so it’s got me thinking for a bit and my brother thinks it’s just what they call us but when you die in story quests a view of the drifter/operater in the void appears so I think we may be some kind of projection

I have my sources most I find by accident

[livid willow]

And flare is the poetic one unless you count Lizzie’s weird way of talking poetic

[thick jolt]

As much as they are different they are also the same, lizzie is literally flare's blood together with helminth strain

[balmy storm]

Lizzie in a lot of ways is literally Flare too

You’ll know what I mean from their chats

[thick jolt]

The whole thing starts with how overzealous she is about trying to help flare in the only ways she knows how, all because she(being a part of them) knows all too well all that flare feels

[livid willow]

I know that part as I said there is a lot of material here to theorize about you just have to find it

[formal fable]

oh yeah so now i am wondering what gonna with 1999 story now since kaya is in the relay

[thick jolt]

Probably nothing for a while

Our focus is on albrecht and wally and they already left 1999

Tho much like the out of the left field plot point of the unum during the new war i expect the hex to make quite the entrance during the apex of the current arc

[livid willow]

Is wally the man in the wall because I don’t know who that is

[formal fable]

yeah however i am quite shocked so is it that kaya helps us travel to 1999?

[thick jolt]

Yeah community got tired of typing it all out so wally it is now lol

[livid willow]

Thought so

[thick jolt]

No
That was loid and the huge bodies i forgot the name of in the labs

[livid willow]

The cavia

Dante

[thick jolt]

Cavia are the animals

[livid willow]

Oh I know what you mean now speaking of which what are those and why does entrati turn into one at the end of the hex quest

[thick jolt]

The vessels

[thick jolt]

I dont think that was entrati

Was likely drifter or operator showing we got the hang of it

[livid willow]

Probably not but what is a “vessel”

I would like to think of that

[thick jolt]

The big men in the labs

[fading current]

Pretty sure that was the drifter letting Loid know the sequence was complete

[thick jolt]

Yeah

[livid willow]

I know but what are they

[livid willow]

Ok

[thick jolt]

Grey strain plus helminth plus arthur(and probably other samples)

Made to fight wally

Needed "the chosen operator" to control

[livid willow]

Ok I wanna see them fight

[fading current]

It was Loid who pointed out the singular attributes of the Gray Strain. How it stimulates growth to monstrous dimensions. Many thoughts converged on me then. What if, through precise biochemical engineering, I could create the equivalents of warframes, yet built to a titanic scale? Surely such a legion could stand against the Adversary… assuming, of course, that an Operator could be found.

Not long after, the first of my Vessels took form. A giant to battle giants, merging the humanity of the man Arthur, the anatomical perfection of Ballas' warframes, and the titanic potency of the Gray Strain. My saviours

Notes on it here

https://www.orokinarchives.com/albrechts-notes/

[livid willow]

I’ll check that later

[thick jolt]

Also they are probably what helped us pinpoint arthur and thus 1999 and all of what helped us reach 1999

[livid willow]

Yeah that too

[thick jolt]

Think the kinepage was the last piece

[livid willow]

Well I’m probably off for the night

Much research needs to be done and to not sleep till 12 am I must get going

[trail adder]

What happens when the hex reset arrives and I haven't finished their stories yet?

[rain otter]

you have like 2 more weeks i am pretty sure.

But you can also just say no to the reset.

[ruby quail]

Question about the Flare and lizzie bug

1. Is it fixed?
2. is the chat where you ||see lizzies' lyrics|| the failed or the good ending

[rain otter]

it's fixed good ending. You will get a Inbox message.

i think as long as you chose the like "oh i can play a shawzin"

[ruby quail]

never saw that :(

[rain otter]

what

you litearlly would have.

[livid willow]

He went the wrong path I guess

[ruby quail]

wait for rest and guides I guess 😭

[tidal escarp]

is the kim chat with flare still bugged? I'm considered "close" but not getting any new messages

[nova harness]

You probably failed

[tidal escarp]

shouldn't it say "associate" if I failed it?

[nova harness]

No, Associate is the bugged Best Friend rank

[tidal escarp]

damn, so now I gotta reset everyone just because of one person, shoot me

here I was thinking I'd never reset 😭

[fading current]

What it should say if you got the good ending (at least I did with this note lol)

[tidal escarp]

oof, guess I gotta reset everything just for one guy

is there a guide somewhere for all the correct choices so this does't feel like a chore all over again?

[rain otter]

Oh yeah

[nova harness]

Kimulacrum tells you the right choices

[rain otter]

the kimulacrum it's what most of us use.

[tidal escarp]

Im guessing I always pick the "true" value option?

[mighty valley]

flare isnt a guy lol

[tidal escarp]

oh nevermind, it shows a whole chart as well and how much chemistry you gain, damn this is a nice site, hope it doesn't get taken down

[rain otter]

no?

[tidal escarp]

thanks for the headups, I was not looking forward to doing that whole process again

[rain otter]

also flow chart yeah.

also @tidal escarp if you are gonna reset turn on "play all conversations". also Flare not a dude.

[tidal escarp]

wait what's "play all conversations"?

[rain otter]

it's a option

under the GEAR that plays all converstaions for each like "rank" (still only 1 convo a day) before moving on to the next one.