spoiler-chat

[ashen cedar]

uh whats dis, idc about spoilers please tell me it popped out of nowhere

[lofty girder]

Requirements to unlock the true hex quest ending, now you need to befriend amir and quincy

[delicate lagoon]

if I don't get gold sentences on Kaya/Minerva/Velimir/Flare, did I effectively fail at the conversation of the day?

[ashen cedar]

ah, i just got scared it popped up for no reason T_T

I CAN CHANGE THE PAST NOW LESGOO

[flint patrol]

2 arm hugs is all papa polar gives, this is now canon and i will fight on this hill if anyone dares to think otherwise

[amber terrace]

I think I had that conversation I wanna say yesterday

Had the Shadow Stalker show up in a SP mission today lol

Idk why it wasn’t the protector stalker but I got a hate BP out of Sentient Gabriel so I’m not complaining lol

[placid gorge]

Well this new coda update is great.... Can't even do it... Love only being able to stare at it

[gentle cape]

operator got teshin (& umbra, if you wanna headcanon it) as father figures,, now its the drifter's turn to have a father figure.

...this is the spoilers channel wait—

anyway. i think if velimir actually gave drifter a hug this would be drifty's only reaction,,, they havent been hugged in so long when you really think about it...

[trail timber]

Bro why is it such a pain to try an date Lettie

2 whole play throughs and got the same outcome

[loud stratus]

erm new gamemode unlocked

[potent vine]

Right flares asking me who am i playing in THEIR story…what’s the correct answer? I don’t wanna mess this up

[sudden grail]

Omg I'm doing the conversations also and

[rain otter]

(is that flare?) all the answers are correct.

[rain otter]

yes?

[sudden grail]

WDYM KAYA WAS ABLE TO INTERCEPT NORA NIGHT

That's crazy af

[rain otter]

i mean we have a Nora night radio

in our backroom so like EHHHH

[potent vine]

Flare the temple protoframe

[rain otter]

i know.

did they talk like Flare?

[sudden grail]

I mean obviously but as the drifter says it is like from a very far time from 1999

[rain otter]

wait have you talked to flare in the like hub?

John

[potent vine]

Kept talking like US as if someone’s in his mind

[rain otter]

their

but have you talked to flare in the hub?

[potent vine]

Yeah

[rain otter]

talk to flare in the hub a couple times and you might realize something.

[rain otter]

flare and temple are nonbinary though. this is just a sidenote.

[potent vine]

In their profile it’s saying Lizzie…

[rain otter]

SMILE

If you talk to flare in the hub sometimes lizzie talks in that candance.

do you know who lizzie is?

anyway you'll figure it out.

[potent vine]

….

||LIZZIES THE BLOODY GUITAR?!!!!||

[obtuse gyro]

something tells me you aint gotten the warframe yet either lol

[potent vine]

Yeah not yet lol

[obtuse gyro]

guess what the 4th ability is

[rain otter]

who did you think temple meant when they said her?

||She can talk in the hub sometimes when you talk to flare her strings even move||

[balmy storm]

vocal chords

[noble bridge]

I JUST GOT THROUGH GHE KIM MESSAGES JUST NOW I WAS LIKE ?????? H..HOW!?!?

[sudden grail]

I really want to see what DE are gonna craft for the next big update cuz they can go even crazier this time

[hard mortar]

My kim bugged 🥲.

DE forgot to code it properly

[noble bridge]

Dang😔

[hard mortar]

It just shows her typing but there is no follow up sequence/message

Also idk but Kim system in this echos update just doesn't seem to "reward" Anything. It's always been optional but I just don't get that vibe anymore

[tight pagoda]

Kaya's got a really neat ending

Flare "rewards" you with ||a custom song based on every chat||

idk about the other two

[noble bridge]

Sobbing

[zenith jacinth]

There never has been a reward

[normal eagle]

Hey is there any way I can check my Hex Chemistry? I'm trying to figure out how long it'll be before I can do the Finale and reach syndicate r4 (I don't know if any of that is necessarily a spoiler, but I figured better safe than sorry yk)

[zenith jacinth]

Click on their profile in the KIM

[normal eagle]

Gotcha, thanks mate

[quiet crypt]

ok i have a question, when I execute enemies using the coda bassocyst ability i get this icon that pops up with no description text, no mods or arcanes on the weapon or the warframe, and no allies as well. does anyone know if this ability actually does anything?

because its about brand new stuff i figure i should put it in the spoiler chat but if i should move it lmk

[obtuse gyro]

do you have mods on your parazon?

[quiet crypt]

yes but the mods are auto breach, swift mercy, and intruder none of which to my knowledge give any buffs when you mercy kill

my focus tree is naramon so it might be that?

just swaped to a different focus school and i still got the namless buff

[obtuse gyro]

It looks like a crit buff based on its appearance

[quiet crypt]

while i would agree that it looks similar to buffs such as argon scope, cat's eye, or hydralic crosshairs. i have no mods on the frame or weapon, as well as no companion/allies

[empty bobcat]

Does anyone know ||where the boolean "AoiShawzinPromise" comes up in any of Aoi's dialogue after it is triggered? (From rank 3 conversation 6)||

[rain otter]

do you have play on all conversations on?

if so it might come up.

[empty bobcat]

In game? I do not

[rain otter]

turn it on.

it doesn't take away anything you just get more conversations.

[empty bobcat]

I would have to reset for that to be the case

[rain otter]

no?

you can just turn it on.

[empty bobcat]

It just plays older rank conversations?

[rain otter]

no? but you where asking about old conversations.

i thought you mean you where still at rank 3.

[empty bobcat]

Oh no I looked up the conversation and was trying to find where that came up in any of them moving forward and doesn't seem like it does

[zenith jacinth]

Afaik there's a lot of branches tbf

[tight pagoda]

AoiRank3Convo6

Whoops sorry you asked where it's triggered afterwards 😂 I gotta read things more

[dense ice]

What the does ‘lega’ mean in ‘legacyte’

[steel mantle]

was this flickering light in deimos hub always here?

[gentle cape]

i wonder how does nora feel abt that... imagine being a radio show host in the far flung future & suddenly you get ddosed from 1999

[lofty girder]

Im assuming its the fact that legacytes all build off each previous generation, thus a legacy of queens iteratively getting Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

[dense ice]

More than ever after

[lofty girder]

"Can't stop the signal baybee! We transcending even time itself!"

[empty bobcat]

The new toggle for getting all chats in order can be toggle off right? I assume when you toggle it off it doesn't continue to force all conversations at the rank you toggled it on?

[rain otter]

more revecied not DDosed.

[gentle cape]

revecied...??

[rain otter]

received?

[thick jolt]

Kaya was receiving signals lol

A receiver cant really ddos

[balmy storm]

not really surprising tbh since we have a radio that receives Nora’s signal too :p

[amber terrace]

I haven’t gotten a straight answer for this question. Is there any reward for getting full points on an Elite Temporal Archimedea run, similar to the hood ornament you get from Elite Deep Archimedea?

[balmy storm]

No ):

[amber terrace]

Sweet, so this means that I only needed to get full points to unlock the elite, thank you

Now I need to figure out how to get ≥700 plat off of this selection of plat to offset the plat I spent to get an R5 Universal Fallout

Also, while I have you here, do we know the name of the track that plays as login music for Techrot Encore? I want to listen to it on repeat for a day until it gets so old it gets actively grating to listen to

[sturdy shell]

Hell scrub disruptors - any information on usage?

[zenith jacinth]

It's the one song that isn't available for somachord but is on the wf yt channel

[zenith jacinth]

Hell scrub what nows

[sturdy shell]

disruptors/detonators. In the Temporal Archimedia (hence spoilers) survival mission, you use them on hell scrubbers but unsure of the effect/if should be using it with randos

[left slate]

It's a spoiler chat so yes

Oh nevermind

[compact bobcat]

wrong chat 😭
i was gonna send that in lore discussion

[left slate]

Oh

Is that not this chat?

[compact bobcat]

?

theres a lore discussion chat

[left slate]

I don't see a lore discussion chat

Oh....dang

[sturdy shell]

#lore-discussion

[left slate]

Thanks

[steady stag]

Kompressa??? REALLY???????????

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[left slate]

Now I'm started to wonder how many chat rooms there actually is on my servers

[rain otter]

no but the final rewards is good

cuz you want the Chip.

[sturdy shell]

the chips are the same pool as the lower tier one though?

[rain otter]

no?

have you done Elite?

[amber terrace]

The only arcane I had my optics on was Arcane Universal Fallout and I got an alarmingly good deal on it so I’m not too concerned with farming chips, respectfully

[sturdy shell]

So the final chips for full Elite are unique?

[sturdy shell]

I've only just completed full normal, not yet done elite

[rain otter]

I think the stickers are good enough to want.

not the arcanes themselves.

[rain otter]

BUT fair.

[rain otter]

well Do the Elite then before reset. also you only have to unlock the elite once.

[sturdy shell]

Chip x6 and Chip x9. If you don't do full, you miss out on chips, but that just means you're progressing slower

[rain otter]

yeah.

[sturdy shell]

LR4, know what i'm doing for Archimedia tah

[rain otter]

The normal EDA the last reward is just bad and you don't need it at all. the ETA one being these chips means people actually wanna do it.

[amber terrace]

Even thought I’m MR 30, I made the crippling mistake of not optimizing a wide range of weapons, so I’m kinda stuck using Hildryn Prime, a selection of the Duviri Incarnons for primary and secondary, and Scindo Prime

[rain otter]

the stickers do help with that a bit

giving you a specific weapon

if you have it modded it is modded.

[sturdy shell]

are sticker buffs Archimedia exclusive tho?

[rain otter]

yes

also some are debuffs

for more chips as rewards.

there are 3 of these including this one so you can actually get another 3 chips every week if you want.

[left slate]

The immortal snail ahh pix

[zenith jacinth]

Laughs in aggressively collects weapons&frames

[rain otter]

I am also MR30

I have all the frames not just weapons.

[zenith jacinth]

I'm MR19

[unique latch]

I got out of bounds bug frame returns

[tight pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[wicked iron]

[mellow blade]

Do the new guys not have weapons? Does killing them just drop currency to buy the new ones?

[noble bridge]

Chat it took me this long to realize but in the defense missions with flare. There are flower wreaths for the each of the band members I'm actually gonna cry, flare needs a hug but I don't think Lizzie will let me😭

My shaylaa... sobbing auughh..my shaylaa...

[amber terrace]

I GOT DC’D FROM MY ETA SQUAD???!!!

THIS IS BOGUS

DE I WANT MY TIME BACK

I WANT TO RECONNECT WITH MY SQUAD

[empty bobcat]

What? No, you're making the wrong connections and drawing the wrong conclusions

||The Hex aren't even a part of the hivemind that is Helminth; Flare isn't even either, yet anyways which seems to be Lizzie's aim with Flare specifically/exclusively|| The hex are essentially just people who naturally can fall in love with you over time. (About a year)

[sudden grail]

So

I just got a jumpscare like if it was 2012 again

[robust fjord]

Same it scared me so bad I cried a lil bit

[tight pagoda]

The scaldra weapons come from Minerva for standing

[sudden grail]

hahaha lol but tbh it pretty cool they did something "extra" for that interaction

[robust fjord]

Yes but damn 😆

[proud quail]

About LIzzie . Spoiler alert.
|| I take it that a non-binary personality is Lizzie? If so, then bravo to digital extremes without sarcasm. After all, in fact, "technocyte | helminth" can be called non-binary.
Now I understand why Lizzie call me a "demon". ||

[worn fjord]

So according to Lizzie, Drifter is || sick in the eyes of well, || the techrot and infested

[worn fjord]

I wonder if it's because of the Void energy

[gentle cape]

...yeah i'd go w the last one. this feels so awkward to be in the middle of 😭😭

[tight pagoda]

Flare/Temple is non-binary, presumably before being infested, Lizzie goes by "she".

[worn fjord]

and that line right after, has..interesting implications lore wise - || "We are the All. Forgive us the Few we Do Not See" ||

[tight pagoda]

Not because the two of them share a mind/body

That's more like Xaku, who is they/them because they're a composite of three Warframes of varying genders and now have no specific gender

[tight pagoda]

I went with the one about the medals-- I even got approval for it

[worn fjord]

ha same lol

and then I told them about Neci's Arm so..that they know

[gentle cape]

ofc she'd approve of it... man.jpg i gotta speed up my ranking w the hex syndicate so i can talk to the new protos

everything i learn abt them makes me wanna chew on them like toys

[proud quail]

Thanks for the clarification. It's just that Lizzie started talking about helminth. I thought it was such a clever move. I feel stupid. Thinking is not my thing. I apologize then.

[tight pagoda]

Yeah the convo was about Minerva and Velimir's parenting. Velimir taught Neci how to smoke, Minerva taught Neci about how to use her "womanly assets" to her advantage but not be defined by them

[proud quail]

well... The dialogue is different, but here are the options.

[tight pagoda]

I think all dialogues seem to branch into that one

[gentle cape]

damn. couple therapists would love them.

theyd have a field day w them.

[proud quail]

But at least. They didn't fight at the end of the dialogue. I think this is progress.

[granite marsh]

wth i'm having heart attack in the morning.. ||flare.exe||

[proud quail]

Bad luck you're. My dialogue turned out fine.

[tight pagoda]

HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN!?

[proud quail]

He had a bad conversation with Lizzie.

[granite marsh]

i choose this option.. then AAAAfkngfaceonmypc

[proud quail]

well, I should have chosen something else. I missed the screamer but he saved his heart.

[granite marsh]

rizzing the guitar, huh 👀

[proud quail]

I'm afraid helminth won't forgive me later for LIzzie.
Now "man in the wall" has a rival. Now I will be afraid not only of orbiter, but also message.

[tight pagoda]

nowhere is safe

[amber terrace]

Frost/Velimir/PapaPolar is applying metaphorical balm to the seething rage and burning hatred associated with the Elite Temporal Archimedea bug

Lettie is still top tier waifu tho

[rain dew]

what's a dot exey?

[tight pagoda]

Love that line

[sudden grail]

Eh

If I breakup with an Hex member, everyone can give me a second chance or... ? My conversation kinda escalated way too fast lol

[tight pagoda]

You can't re-date that one member until you reset the time

but you might be able to date the others

[sudden grail]

Crap, there will be unconformable KIM conversations about breaking up?

[tight pagoda]

Nope

They won't acknowledge it, IIRC

If you're dating someone you can flirt with others and that will upset them which might lock you out of a romance, but not your date

[sudden grail]

Okay ty

[graceful ginkgo]

You're right the hex have nothing to do with the infested or techrot and in no way have any connection sorry im clearly just stupid.

[rain dew]

wat

[amber terrace]

What is Scaldra? Is it paramilitary turned cult of personality?

[gentle cape]

yup

fascist paramilitary

very cult-like

[amber terrace]

I wanna say it was closer to proto-Orokin but I may be misremembering my chats

Lemme check my POM-2

[gentle cape]

...i mean. (looks at the orokin empire) thats also fascism

[amber terrace]

I’m gonna take your word for it because I am alarmingly politically illiterate

This is from the conversation where you ask Saryn/Minerva about Rusalka

[balmy storm]

It’s a military cult yes

Scaldra is literally a religious cult
I’ll try and grab the chat in a bit

[amber terrace]

I’m at the POM-2, I think it’s in the convo of the somewhat married couple

[balmy storm]

It is yes

Minerva literally investigated Scaldra

That’s why she didn’t want Russalka to go, she knew the truth about Scaldra

But due to her job she couldn’t tell her or Velimir the truth

[amber terrace]

But she couldn’t spill full details because then if she did, then Neci and Velimir would want to go and topple a paramilitary cult and surely get clipped

[balmy storm]

Or because it was classified info she wasn’t able to spill
I don’t recall which but can see both

[undone lodge]

It was both

[balmy storm]

Russalka was like
Really good at her job but joined Scaldra cause of Victor

Then got possessed by the most powerful known entity so it could get at an old man who accidentally cut off his finger

[amber terrace]

but joined Scaldra cause of Victor
So the cat boy? I thought he was second fiddle to Rusalka?

I may be misremembering though, it’s very late for me and my mind is mush

[undone lodge]

…cat boy?

[balmy storm]

LOL

I think they were more so working together

But he brought her into it apparently

[obtuse gyro]

I mean just cuz you recruited someone aint mean that you cant be under them

[amber terrace]

You’re gonna stare me dead in the optics and tell me in full seriousness that if Victor was a 21st century phenomenon, he wouldn’tve put on the cat ears on a livestream

[balmy storm]

This is absolutely headcanon but I can totally see Victor and Flare having dated in the past
Idk why
Like
Distant past ofc
Before. All this

[balmy storm]

Russalka and Albrecht both like their cat men apparently

I feel like maybe Victor should’ve noticed something was up with Russalka

Makes me wonder how much he actually cared

[amber terrace]

Loid is cat boy on the basis of he has the personality of a cat
Victor is a cat boy because he has the personality of a person who would put on a collar and cat ears and wear them out in public

[balmy storm]

Real

[amber terrace]

To be fair, I have an amount of bias for Loid because I feel bad for him and I find the partner name thing where Loid calls Albrecht, “his Albrecht” to be adorable

[undone lodge]

Drifter drank the kuva-aid 😔

[amber terrace]

I mean, I feel like all people go through the phase where they wholeheartedly tether themselves to one end of an extremist economic policy

[rain otter]

none of Drifters comments about Parvos is ever them liking him withouth any cavates.

[wild wind]

Viktor would be the guy yelling slurs outside the convention hoping that some attendee throws a punch

[solar monolith]

I wanna ask something about a certain chair sold by Minerva

|| Does Wally only appear when that chair is placed in the Mall's Backrooms, or it does work in different places like thr Orbiter, Dormizone and Clan Dojos???||

[balmy storm]

I’ve seen it work in the orbiter

[tight pagoda]

Someone put it in the Drifter Camp

In the skybox

[desert tiger]

Dont Know if its spoiler but if you chat whit lizzy and she ask if you like infested saying no give you jumpscare on screan in te 1999 computer

Red face whit glowing eyes

I think its when you make it thet she is winning or not whit flare

[night grail]

Oh is that the ||LizzieJumpscare|| boolean i saw on the kimulacrum

[obtuse gyro]

uhuh, I didnt realise it was going to be a thing either lol

[night grail]

I haven't been peeking ahead

[obtuse gyro]

but since I dont intend to antagonise lizzie so I was going to miss it

[night grail]

Only going back to see what I've missed

[pseudo ivy]

Hello, I just finished jade mission. What do you think stalker is thinking when he sees Tenno using his wife as a puppet to play dress up and commit war crimes? I mean I would be mad as hell.

[covert tree]

He actually has a unique interaction where he gets mad and leaves the mission

[pseudo ivy]

Of this I know, but tbh i would like to know more about this

[nova harness]

Never proceeds to leave

He would never harm his lover

[pseudo ivy]

But Tenno in this case? That would be murder spree.

[nova harness]

He doesn't want to harm Jade Infested puppet or not

[pseudo ivy]

Yeah, but he can steel sneak into orbiter, he did it once he can do it again.

[nova harness]

Only way he ever would is if you replay TSD

[pseudo ivy]

Just make new quest, where jade goes umbra and wants to be free from tenno and be together with stalker again.

[covert tree]

The original jade's dead though? the one from the foundry isn't the same that's how that works I think.... idk

[nova harness]

Yeah ones we build are clones of the original

[covert tree]

I was right about something

[pseudo ivy]

Thats still a little messed up with jade

[rain otter]

He actually refuses to fight her. Also he asks for our help in the ascension mode.

[rain otter]

As Ordis says "Ordis knows this both is and isn't the same jade"

[nova harness]

All frames we use work that way what makes Jade any different?

[rain otter]

A little? Her endless punishment was to always be reminded or a child she could never have unless she stayed perfectly still for 1000 years.

[pseudo ivy]

Btw, she lacked energy. Couldnt we make Helminth help her? His purpose is to help warframes isnt it?

[nova harness]

His purpose is to hunt Warframes

[rain otter]

Helminth not Stalker.

[nova harness]

Oh

[rain otter]

Jade was dying cuz she was giving up her life-force so she could have a child we couldn't have saved her cuz she didn't wanna be saved.

[pseudo ivy]

Becouse she had no choice. If we got her to helminth he could power her and we could power helminth.

[rain otter]

To what end? She would still have had to be still

And use all her energy to birh her child?

[pseudo ivy]

Yeah, but maybe she could survive

[rain otter]

Oh btw

[nova harness]

Helminth did use her flesh to help us

[rain otter]

Jade has extra lore

Where teshin used to be in the relays.

[nova harness]

Jade did have an Operator

She helped them instead

[rain otter]

She did.

Also she did.

[rain otter]

Also if you buy jade items from ordis in the Drifter camp you can see Stalker ajd his kid in the background.

[pseudo ivy]

W8, what? On major rusalka?

Btw guys, would you like to somehow reunite jade qnd stalker after she gave birth? We have the eternalism theory

[covert tree]

I think widow single father stalker is more interesting and bringing her back would waste her sacrifice

[pseudo ivy]

Not really, acording to eternalism there could be a version where it was stalker who gave up his energy and sacrificed himslef.
Now we would reunite two diffrent versions.

[zenith jacinth]

We. Can. Not. Go. To. Different. Realities.

[nova harness]

People always assume Eternalism means we will access the other timelines

[pseudo ivy]

Okay, you got me there. I am not so into lore

To know everything

But explain to me what is warframe 1999 then? Diffrent timeline, reality, pardox? This is to messed up for me

[wicked iron]

Warframe's actual 1999. Not an eternalism thing.

[rain otter]

actually normal 1999.

no bootstrap paradox or anything.

also i still think other realities might not exist.

Cuz of things that some duviri tablets say.

all the things we have ever seen about "eteranlism" are void mainfestations.

[pseudo ivy]

I think 1999 became paradox when techrot got introduced becouse originaly it was work of orokin. And right now we have to much "ifs" and "what aboutisms".

[rain otter]

no

the tech rot always existed.

albretch didn't make it.

[zenith jacinth]

1. Infestation is not an orokin creation
2. Infestation is OLD

[sacred flint]

orokin just experimented with infestation, but it already existed

[night blaze]

im pretty sure thats one of the only things DE has retconned

in one of the missions the lotus used to say that the infestation was an orokin creation, but it's been changed to say that the orokin messed around with the infestation

in the leadup to the release of 1999

[sacred flint]

wait but what abou the sacrifice quest?

[zenith jacinth]

Nah, much earlier

[sacred flint]

didn't ballas already stated that they turned to old aka the infestation?

[night blaze]

its 1999 from the main timeline, it just exists in a time loop thanks to the drifter

[sacred flint]

drifter be looping everything

[night blaze]

sorry?

[night blaze]

how can the drifter loop the year?

i thought they could only do it in duviri

cause they made the place

[pseudo ivy]

He smashed the fist into the ground and did it

[sacred flint]

idk apparently they made a loop or albrecht did i don't fully remember

[tight pagoda]

Albrecht made a loop I think, Drifter enhanced it

[night blaze]

and the surrendered that ability when they gave control of duviri back to thrax, in exchange for resurrecting teshin and being able to leave

[night blaze]

alr

[night blaze]

cool beans

[tight pagoda]

Yeah but Drifter created Duviri so rules are loose

[sacred flint]

oh yea to trap wally right? and then he found something that could destroy it but then the drifter wanted to also save the hex etc

[tight pagoda]

Wouldn't be surprised if Albrecht got the time loop technology from/based it on Duviri itself

[sacred flint]

and then albrecht was like alr you do you bro i am out you go fight wally then

can we replay the quest?

[covert tree]

Well albrecht has been to duviri so it wouldn't be a stretch

[zenith jacinth]

Drifter kept the ability, just chooses not to use it

[nova harness]

Orokin weapon not creation

[sacred flint]

cause i kinda wasn't paying full attention

[night blaze]

since the void exists outside of time, duviri existed when albrecht first visited the void, even though it hadnt been created yet

[night blaze]

right

[night blaze]

huh, interesting

[tight pagoda]

We can now, with the Encore update

[sacred flint]

let's gooo

[tight pagoda]

Playing from Codex gives you the bad ending, playing from Kalymos in the back rooms gives you the Finale

[night blaze]

i used to think albrecht was cool but after 1999 i realised he's like a horrible horrible person

[sacred flint]

huh interesting

[night blaze]

tbf he is an orokin, idk what i expected

[tight pagoda]

We can finally replay Duviri too

[night blaze]

NOOOOO
WHO CONED KALYMOS

free her

[zenith jacinth]

:)

[night blaze]

she did nothing wrong

[tight pagoda]

Wonder if there's more to her

[sacred flint]

i mean in his stories he already was a depressed wrokalcoholic who didn't pay attention to his love and daughter.

[night blaze]

fair enough

[zenith jacinth]

She wanted to be a magic cat

[tight pagoda]

In the 1999 segment of Whispers, she's there when MITW shows up

[zenith jacinth]

Now she's a cat with a hat

[tight pagoda]

Is that just MITW making Kalymos?

[night blaze]

no

she's the real kalymos pretty sure

[tight pagoda]

Is that Kalymos attempting to calm Arthur/Operator?

[night blaze]

she just lives with the drifter cause albrecht basically abandoned her in 1999

[covert tree]

Wait what

[night blaze]

i thought we could ages ago?

[zenith jacinth]

It's kalymos next to albrecht

The albrecht, not wallbrecht

[night blaze]

loid deserves better smh

[covert tree]

Fr

[night blaze]

bro's abandoned you for centuries, its time to move on loid

[zenith jacinth]

Eh, albrecht was pretty good, just excessively paranoid

[night blaze]

pretty good when it comes to orokin

[zenith jacinth]

Albrecht left to 1999 FOR loid

[night blaze]

no..?

[zenith jacinth]

To protect him

[night blaze]

from wally?

[zenith jacinth]

Wally has no interest in loid, so albrecht left

Hoping that wally would leave loid alone

[tight pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-albrecht-entrati-you-are-late-whispers-in-the-walls-gif-14925983810522853958

[night blaze]

right

[zenith jacinth]

That is albrecht

[wicked iron]

I still want to know what happened to Mother's mother, honestly.

[night blaze]

divorced or died probably

[wicked iron]

Wouldn't be surprised if her leaving was due to Albrecht, or if one of his experiments got her killed.

[night blaze]

yeah

[zenith jacinth]

I'd say "hard for an orokin to die" but the void is like the one thing that can nullify kuva

[night blaze]

cause kuva is freaky void energy

right?

[zenith jacinth]

It's... not entirely clear actually

We just know that requiems were spit out by the void in response to kuva iirc

[night blaze]

right

im assuming this goes under the weird space magic category of lore explanations for this game

how exactly did albrecht plan to trap wally in 1999?

[covert tree]

He wasn't? Was he?

He was going somewhere where wally would take a while to get to

[wicked iron]

Kuva predates the discovery of the Void.

[tight pagoda]

Yeah the goal was to get Wally as far from Loid

Wally wanted Albrecht

So if Albrecht left Loid, Loid would be safe

[pseudo ivy]

Do we have some DE/Warframe lorekeeper that has definitve explenattion?

[tight pagoda]

For?

[pseudo ivy]

All this we talk about

And i think we should transfer to lore chat

[tight pagoda]

We can cite our sources from the games but a lot of this is guesswork

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

We really don't I think

[pseudo ivy]

Maybe? Dont want to get banned becouse i accidentally started whole lore debate in wrong channel

[covert tree]

Spoiler channel and lore channel are really similar lore has spoilers spoilers have lore

[pseudo ivy]

If you say so

[rain otter]

Drifter was in the Void for over 1000 years.

Let's just remember that when they have werid abilities or anything like that.

He says like In the OG like diemos Logs that her mom like died or left when she was a child. Let me find the qoute."and, of course, my daughter. I had raised her alone, but with inconsistent vigour."

@wicked iron

[rain otter]

Not trap. He wanted to go to place Wally couldn't follow. Wally still actually couldn't without a "vessel" a "conduit" which is why Wally uses Ruslka.

[night blaze]

rightttt

[astral jackal]

OH, GO TO HELL, LIZZIE

[covert tree]

OOOOOGGGGGAAAAA BOOOOOGGGAAAAA

[real niche]

How do you get that?

[astral jackal]

Not a huge fan of Kaya and Flare tbh
Velimir and Minerva on the other hand? Best additions

[astral jackal]

Told Lizzie that I don't love infestation

[covert tree]

Flares great

I really don't like kaya

[lofty girder]

by not supporting lizzie in trying to get together with flare

[astral jackal]

Eh

[lofty girder]

i for one ship the depressed Rockerboy and slightly yandere guitar

[tight pagoda]

If you don't play ball with Lizzie and tell her to leave Flare alone, she responds with this

[real niche]

And that's... A good(?) thing???

[astral jackal]

Here's the screenshot

[lofty girder]

tbh Lizzie reminds me of Johnny Silverhand's Malorian, that pistol is said to have Driven Johnny cyberpsycho

[real niche]

Whats the good ending of this scenario tbh

[covert tree]

Eh?

[lofty girder]

you agree to ship lizzie with flare

i just said if lizzie wants flare then she has to get their permission

[astral jackal]

Well, just my reaction to Flare
Interesting idea, but I'm just not a fan of the character. The perfect description for me is "eh"

[covert tree]

Ok

I enjoy flare and vel I'm warming up to m I don't enjoy kaya for some reason

[astral jackal]

Kaya acts as if she's the most important person in the room

[real niche]

I absolutely hate uh... The Saryn woman's name forgot her name.

Minerva

[covert tree]

She can be rude but like her daughters missing possibly dead it's understandable

[astral jackal]

But Velimir?
Holy void, he's chill and fun

[covert tree]

Chill

[real niche]

Like, yeah, but I just can't stand the fact she's taking it out on everyone else for it. That and the convo choices don't really let me drop the "ah so now you're done being annoying" attitude back at her

She's exhausting from frame one

[covert tree]

It's understandable her daughters gone she's been turned into a warframe there's probably more I'm forgetting I'd probably be like she is if that happend to me

[real niche]

Honestly if it's just the protoframe transformation and her daughter gone I'm pretty sure she's one of the luckier ones

[lofty girder]

well she's pissed at velimir for letting rusalka go

[covert tree]

I said I'm probably forgetting ALOT

[lofty girder]

the one time velimir decides to trust rusalka over minerva

[real niche]

Still

[lofty girder]

minerva just finished an undercover op that basically showed how messed up scaldra was, and immediately after he daughter runs away to join them

she's pissed at scaldra for the messed up stuff they do, she's pissed at Velimir for letting Rusalka go, and she's mad at herself for not stopping Rusalka in time

[covert tree]

And now rusalkas who knows where (including in the grave) doing who knows what

[real niche]

Hopefully she's just dead

[lofty girder]

dagath protoframe with her missing memories 🙏

[covert tree]

The Rusalka in the quest is possibly very different from the real one

The one in the quest is wally I think from the start

[real niche]

That's the same Rusalka. For some reason she was an easy person for Wally to use to seep into 1999 through her head

[lofty girder]

i do hope rusalka becomes a protoframe, just so we can chat with her and see what cracks in her psyche wally crawled through

heck that could be the whole KIMchat arc for her, us helping piece together her mind after wally gets kicked out of her

[covert tree]

I hope we save rus

[night grail]

No they are basically the same thing

Its just spoiler chat also is about upcoming stuff or new stuff on top

[zenith jacinth]

Nah, the real rusalka is much less prone to solving things violently

It was easy for wally to take over because she was the in-universe person doing the ARG investigating

[undone spindle]

Hay so that thing under sev’s eye
Is the infested cyst remodels or is this something new???

[fickle fable]

It's for the Technocyte. Just to remind you that you have one

[gentle cape]

isnt rusalka like,, high ranked in scaldra?? that takes a long time to achieve...

also tbh?? these are the reasons why i give minerva a lot of leeway bc like. shes just dealing w A Lot of things all at once + quincy did lash out MULTIPLE TIMES at drifter—one of his conversations was just a mental breakdown over being a frame & nothing drifter said helped him calm down in the slightest. minerva is just having that same mental breakdown.

[undone spindle]

Oh can I do anything with it like normal cyst or is it for sure purely visual?

[zenith jacinth]

It's just there to remind you of your coda

[undone spindle]

Well that sucks
I was hoping I could make a cool new helminth charger qwq

[tardy kindle]

Riftguard! If we go by the name it's something about the void again, obviously, but by excalibur appearance it may be about duviri or into the void, what are you guys theories for the next update?

[zenith jacinth]

Or it's just a cool name. The rift is also not the void

And they always use excal to show off new non-skin cosmetics

[tardy kindle]

Yeah sure, what I meant is that it's a tennocon pack, not just some cosmetic...

[zenith jacinth]

That still doesn't necessarily mean anything

Tennocon pack can still be just cool looking cosmetics

[lofty girder]

she's above Viktor that's for sure, as for the wider organization? unknown, but considering Minerva has evidence that they're guns for hire for big corpos and dictatorships means that someone higher up is pulling strings

[rain dew]

even when viewing in-game cosmetics

he’s the literal poster boy

[nova harness]

Yep

[covert tree]

Oh wait they revealed the new tennocon pack

[maiden sequoia]

I wonder how long the syandana is? I hope it drags on the ground so is looks cool using Gauss mach rush

[zenith jacinth]

Syandanas never touch the ground

[covert tree]

Things can change

[novel imp]

real

[amber terrace]

Generally speaking, is it a good idea to pump a morbillion roentgens of ionizing radiation into a rapidly evolving technocyte strain like the Techrot?

[zenith jacinth]

Except war, war never changes

[real niche]

Not unless you're a Metal Gear fan

[brisk beacon]

I really want an actual tales of duviri book that I can read. Like god I really need a children's storybook about how to deal with your emotions.

[rain otter]

not just childerns book but yeah. it sounds like it would be a chapter book.

[boreal falcon]

Who the freak told them to outright spook my soul off

Why does it do that??? Am I missing something related to this? (I know what that is, but never saw it do that before)

[zenith jacinth]

It just has a few places where it can show up

[tight pagoda]

Keeps you on your toes, Kiddo

[boreal falcon]

I happen to have intense paranoia triggers, and this is unconveniently one of them.

[boreal falcon]

i HATE that

not even joking!!

[rain otter]

Well he can't appear in the backroom.

[boreal falcon]

is there an option to toggle this horror off

[tight pagoda]

Potentially by turning on the spoiler/streamer mode?

[rain otter]

Make the backroom your hub is the only option I'm sorry.

Also in the Drifter camp he can actually show up outside.

[tight pagoda]

And don't put the "Normal Office Chair" in it

[rain otter]

Yeah.

Don't put the new chairs sold by the toxic couple in the backroom.

[tight pagoda]

This is not organically possible in game, someone used the "Normal Office Chair" and put it in the skybox for the camp

Thus making MITW huge

[boreal falcon]

I dont want my high motivation to play WF, to fall apart just for something that REALLY freaks me off.

[rain otter]

Have you done 1999?

[boreal falcon]

yes

and i suffered

[rain otter]

Okay make the backroom your primary hub and he can't appear there.

[tight pagoda]

If you interact with the PC, you can enter the Backrooms base of operations and always spawn there

[boreal falcon]

Yeah, im there now

[tight pagoda]

There's a 0% chance he spawns there unless you specifically place the Office Chair decoration

[rain otter]

Yep.

[boreal falcon]

thank lawd i dont have it.

yall saved my sanity. thank you.

[rain otter]

You're welcome.

[tight pagoda]

If you do get it, I'm pretty sure it overrides his placement in the Orbiter/Camp too

And he will only spawn in that chair

So you could put it in the furthest corner of the camp outside

[boreal falcon]

i do not want to find that out myself.

[rain otter]

Yeah.

Also the backrooms you can get a baddie in their.

[wild wind]

Hold up could you use the chair to make Wally spawn on the Zariman

[copper silo]

is that real or edited?

[rain otter]

Real

[thick jolt]

Its a decoration trick with putting decorations out of bounds

[tulip bough]

Can the coda cyst and the helminth cyst hang out on the same frame? Do they fight?

[astral jackal]

._.

[balmy storm]

Test it out
Take a helminth cysted frame and go grab a coda lich

[hearty girder]

Im mad at myself, i accidentally chose the wrong option

Can i reset chats

[balmy storm]

Once they log off you’re locked in

You can reset once the calendar year is over

[hearty girder]

Welp time to kill my drfiter

[balmy storm]

Which next one is in april I think?

[hearty girder]

I dont want to do that tho… if im being honest, i iust romanced aoi and dont want to redo it

[balmy storm]

Then you’re locked in.

[hearty girder]

So lettie wont trust me again?

[empty bobcat]

Not unless you reset and go again

[hearty girder]

And if i reset then i got to do every chat again right?

[empty bobcat]

Yeah it resets everyones, a few people are considering resetting because of the new option to get every conversation for a given rank

[hearty girder]

Last question, does resetting mean i have to grind standing all over again?

[real niche]

no it's just the convos and chemistry

[sturdy turret]

sadness that temple doesnt have aco glyph...

[tight pagoda]

Imagine they add it in a future update

[sturdy turret]

eh its just swap augur secrets for rolling guard and im guci

temple can have 100% invincibility uptime

[hardy wasp]

So are the on-lyne guys actually dead?

Or is there a chance that technocyte only "copied" them and they themselves are alive

I want drillbit as a protoframe

[balmy storm]

No, the boys are safe somewhere
They were cloned via the infestation by Scaldea and iirc their record label

Also the boys as protos feels
Unlikely
Mostly because of how long the process would take, but anything’s possible

Go read the PC in Aoi’s shop

[humble zinc]

<@&778745217037238293>

[hardy wasp]

It seems that the coda's story is still unfinished though and having the boys fight their techrot doppelgangers would be the most badass thing imaginable

you have to resolve the problems and maybe get the band back together

[lofty girder]

i wanna go for 3, since getting them and her to get along is imo the best narrative arc, but i also don't wanna push him too far so quickly

[worn fjord]

I didn't want to push them either at first, so I went for the second option (it was kinda funnier) and then I went for, the "I'll see what I can do" option after

[lofty girder]

i flubbed it

first time in all the kim chats

[worn fjord]

aw- you went for the third one..?

[lofty girder]

ye

[worn fjord]

ah well... hmm maybe the next chat, you'll get a chance to say something different? hopefully

[lofty girder]

hopefully

[balmy storm]

Them not him

[final nacelle]

I ended up replaying the hex quest and I have the steel path modifier bug, is there a way I could leave the quest?

[empty bobcat]

I think you have to contact support to get them to take you out of the quest

[tight pagoda]

3 won't lock you out of anything, I think

I hope

[hard mortar]

this got me DEAD LMAO

[bronze glen]

So Minerva taught Rusalka on how to flaunt her "assets"

[bronze glen]

I just had this conversation too

[covert tree]

It worked didn't it

[queen fable]

cheeserockstar

[sacred flint]

In the eye of the beholder, cheese is all that matters…

[frail pumice]

can you get the coda to flee to earth even without having the right antivirus? i know it would take forever

[real niche]

No, needs the antivirus on the last swing, regardless

Tried messing around with it with the last Coda I had

As in, had the right antivirus, took it off because I was at 95%, but it didn't budge

[frail pumice]

ty ty. trying to give my friend hope lol

[violet hare]

Why are all the hex members thanking me for being their friend, saying how much they appreciate me? Fells like some something bad is gonna happen

[obtuse gyro]

because you just spend the past 1 and a half weeks being their best friend, also you literally changed things like crazy

[violet hare]

Quincy said something about resetting, I don't think I can ever do that. Every single chat today made me cry

[gentle cape]

velimir really wants minerva's attention on him so badly hes willing to annoy her just to get it......... thats a new level of down bad.

[frigid canopy]

So, I just did the Apex Tank as Kaya...and no accolade, damn. Guess I shouldn't bother doing the other three, then?

[mellow blade]

For the antivirus mods, does having 3 of them at once make it guess all 3 and does having one and 2 boosters only do one?

[zenith jacinth]

Correct

[frigid canopy]

ugh, guess I'll just have to hope they add them in at some point. Cuz that was really rough and took two hrs to re-learn the fight lol

[halcyon kraken]

Temples 3 affected abilities too?

No wonder I was stomping steel path

[plush swan]

Is it just me, or does Critical Frost + Baneful Harmony not work?

[steep totem]

I forget, does Critical Frost inflict cold status?

I always used Luscinia's Suffering for Baneful Harmony

[zenith jacinth]

Added cold damage on crit

[steep totem]

Damage with status, or no?

[zenith jacinth]

Just damage

[steep totem]

That explains it then

[zenith jacinth]

Crit frost is one of the most whelming decrees

Not overwhelming or underwheling, just whelming

[steep totem]

No
Baneful Harmony procs off of status, not damage
And Critical Frost just deals Cold damage

One of my favorite decree combos is Baneful Harmony + Luscinia's Suffering + Shattering Frost
Enemies just disintegrate

[rain otter]

Shattering frost?

[steep totem]

Deals extra damage to enemies affected by cold

[zenith jacinth]

Extra dmg to frost proc'd enemies

[steep totem]

It gets FUN

[rain otter]

A decree?

[zenith jacinth]

My favorite decree combo is just all the melee crit ones. Crit chance on hit, melee speed on crit, crit dmg on crit

[steep totem]

That does sound fun
I just end up in an uncontrollable whirlwind if I get my attack speed too fast

[zenith jacinth]

Combine that with my usual combo crit builds and uh. Yeah

It just goes up

[steep totem]

I also have a tendency to go flying off of ledges with great frequency

[zenith jacinth]

Another favorite is the headshot decrees because incarnons have trained me to get a lot of headshots

[steep totem]

I do usually get the melee crit chance on hit though

[zenith jacinth]

Ooor the many status decrees

As a lavos enjoyer I simply must go for those

[steep totem]

I tried the headshot one
Didn't work well for me for the most part

[zenith jacinth]

There are multiple

My favorite is the electric field on headshot kill

[steep totem]

I think it was one where you did extra damage on headshot or something

Idk, I've forgotten most of those cause I just don't use them

Storm Caller did amuse me
Double magazine size does funny stuff

[zenith jacinth]

I now want to go to circuit agaim

[steep totem]

Same
I want to experience my aura of death again

[zenith jacinth]

Co-op circuit?

[steep totem]

Sadly, I can't play right now
Otherwise, totally

[zenith jacinth]

Hm. Overguard on melee kill decree is also the only way for me to enjoy excal

[steep totem]

also, I have a Coda waiting for me in Earth's orbit

[zenith jacinth]

He really struggles with survivability otherwise

[steep totem]

I actually can't say I've ever tried Excal in Circuit

[zenith jacinth]

I have one just abandoned in 1999 because I got distracted lvling a ton of gear

Hit MR20 yesterday

[steep totem]

Poor dude

Ooh, neat
I'm stuck on the 19 rank up
That one is... painful

Might have to finally build a Wisp to pull that one off

[zenith jacinth]

I forgot how I did that one, I think I just got gud

[steep totem]

Fair lol

[zenith jacinth]

Maybe I used a glaive or the duviri polearm heavy attack

Latter more likely than former

[steep totem]

...I have that polearm

I should try that

[zenith jacinth]

I hate glaives

[zenith jacinth]

It's really hard to aim

[steep totem]

I kinda wish the heavy attack button threw the glaive instead of holding the melee button

Sometimes I just want spinning disk fun

[warped mauve]

Have you completed the Sacrifice and/or have a Banshee?

[zenith jacinth]

Ooh ye the skiajati thing

I forgot about that

[steep totem]

My first try was with Skiajati
It went... poorly

Well, actually, I was fine until going to the top floor
Then I accidentally ran into one of the guards and lost my stealth attack option
Then ran out of invisibility and was spotted a second later

[zenith jacinth]

Go for fancy stealth attacks

[plush swan]

It does inflict status

at least sometimes

[zenith jacinth]

That's just a skill issue then

[steep totem]

Ah
Not guaranteed
Then it won't always proc the cold to proc the viral

[zenith jacinth]

Luscinia's suffering is still objectively better

[steep totem]

Also an 'I couldn't see myself while invisible' issue
Have they made that a setting toggle yet?

[warped mauve]

I assume self highlights work? Not test it myself though so I'm unsure

[steep totem]

No idea
Might be worth a shot

[plush swan]

I'm getting cold procs without viral

[steep totem]

Odd

[zenith jacinth]

Only for frames and that seemingly just vanished when encore released

Invis frames had an auxiliary thing where you could select semi-transparent or glow cloak instead of full invis

[steep totem]

They were talking about moving that to the actual settings window

[zenith jacinth]

...but now it's gone🤷

[thick jolt]

Moved to accessibility settings

[zenith jacinth]

Hm

[steep totem]

To apply for all stealth

[zenith jacinth]

Eye see

Much better that way

[thick jolt]

Rhino is still on auxiliary tho

[spiral snow]

Why do you hate glaives?

[zenith jacinth]

Because I like using melees as melees and glaives seem to be allergic to staying in my hand

If I accidentally hold the button for a picosecond too long the glaive is just gone

[desert cipher]

damn

[tight pagoda]

Bro got hit on by Minerva, perfectly valid response

[urban pond]

i just realised

in the start of 1999 when you're going out as arthur rusalka says this

was this foreshadowing??? 🙏

[tight pagoda]

Yep

[gentle cape]

i mean. given that he was eating bar snacks very loudly just to annoy her & thus make her pay attention to him........ yeah it is. man's down horrendous for her.

(i havent actually talked to them that much... yet.)

[sharp bough]

was this line changed recently? it didn't sound like the void before

[balmy storm]

No, it was always Loid

[potent vine]

….ok Velmirs talking in redacted what’s the correct choice so I don’t mess it up

[balmy storm]

Joke with him

[rain otter]

There are CORRECT ways to resovle the new proto frames issues
i didn't know thats
that's cool.

I just realized that reading the patchnotes again.

[undone spindle]

Is it just me or are adversary’s weak as a yarn ball when you convert them??? and then they wreck my health pool when I fight em

[sacred flint]

Converted adversary’s power are related to the rank you slayed them. So like converting a rank 5 one will give a stronger adversary. Rank 1 is pretty weak yea

[tight pagoda]

Yeah and the Coda don't have ranks

[nova harness]

Which adversary are you referring to specifically? there’s 3 types

[real niche]

They're all buns anyway because you can't mod them

[lunar terrace]

hey yall just Curious but anyone got a full durability Trojan Tracker antivirus mod theyd be willing to trade for my Full charge Anti-V antivirus mod? (basicly a 1:1 trade) (also reason i send it in here is bcuz the mods are a Bit spoilerely xd)

[lunar terrace]

(also couldnt find a Trade channel so my bad if i mis used the channel)

[nova harness]

#trading

[lunar terrace]

ahh ty wasnt showing up for me My bad ty!!

[undone spindle]

Ok so! I’ve been playing for a weak after my monthly break and so far out of the four days each one has crashed often in techrot entrances and I don’t get why qwq

[lunar terrace]

maybe try validating files if thats possible on Xbox?

(sounds like it might be a borked file)

[undone spindle]

I don’t even know what that means qwq

[lunar terrace]

uh... basicly is there a Way to make the xbox check all the Files to check for missing/damaged files?

(for a Game)

[undone spindle]

Im not sure

[lunar terrace]

oof-

[gentle cape]

......please tell me the choice wasnt "you either become a frame or i kill you to keep my secrets"...

[shadow nymph]

Damn

[lavish elm]

yoo

[balmy storm]

This pic looks like it’s from 1999 lmao

[nova harness]

It is from 1999

[balmy storm]

No I mean like
The actual year

Like the quality looks like it’s from 25 years ago

[zenith jacinth]

26*

[balmy storm]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[balmy storm]

this is so cursed omg

[pine shell]

Yall my coda has a potty mouth

Why he gotta have that as the last part of his name?

[amber terrace]

Prince smash hit

lol, lmao even

[pine shell]

Oooooh I misread the last couple letters as a swear

[amber terrace]

Glad I could help

[pine shell]

Prieche

[nova harness]

Warframe players can't read moment

[pine shell]

I don’t read, I only see numbers

[eternal ore]

PRINCESMA

[amber terrace]

The new Scaldra Drifter suits go harder than diamonds. I have the plat to pay for the bundle. I need someone to talk me out of it

[nova harness]

Buy it

I dare you

[amber terrace]

The biggest thing stopping me is that I really like my Prime operator suit and I don’t want to get something that I don’t see myself wearing for long

[nova harness]

Then don't get it if you won't use it

Or do

[zenith jacinth]

Buy it

[rain otter]

I actually

Want the goth earrings.

I still need to get them.

[arctic agate]

the goth set goes so hard

[velvet leaf]

testing 1 2 3

alr cool

[rain otter]

Do you need something?

[velvet leaf]

no im good, just testing

[lofty girder]

Lizzie sure has... Imagination

[sudden grail]

In the conversation with Kaya that goes like "I was the girl who had it all" which one is the correct answer? Cuz with "It's been hard for everyone. You'll be ok" and "We've all lost something because of this bs. Look around." I feel I'm just making less her emotions lol

[gentle cape]

...like, all of those in a dish or??

separately??

[tight pagoda]

She made a "pizza"

[jagged sable]

no choices grant chemistry in that convo other than the bare minimum.

[amber terrace]

Just so I get this right and I don’t sound like a complete bigot, Lizzie is she/her and Flare is they/them?

[jagged sable]

yep.

[lean wagon]

so what we doin Lotus just chillin one step closer to the edge

[tight pagoda]

Yep!

[rain otter]

yeppers.

[gentle cape]

yeah,, loid talks a lot about her whenever you drop by in the sanctum

[odd meteor]

how do u get the new years eve kiss? i maxed rep, i'm dating one of them, redid the new years eve quest, but still didnt get the kiss to trigger...

do i hav to progress the calendar to the new years point? or am i missing something?

[zenith jacinth]

Calendar new years

[odd meteor]

ah, dang...ty 😄

[lofty stump]

LOL I only just now did the Hex Finale redo thing, and Amir using a parazon is PEAK

[humble wharf]

Yep

[humble bluff]

Why does scaldra ingest green

[humble wharf]

Anti techrot chemical

I guess?

[tidal pumice]

is flare also a xaku situation?

like the damn guitar talked to me

it can think?

[zenith jacinth]

They don't

[zenith jacinth]

No

Flare bled on their guitar and it turned into lizzie

[humble wharf]

Flare bled on the guitar?

[lofty girder]

Flare is They/Them before transformation

the Guitar is she/her

[zenith jacinth]

Shredded too hard

That is actually the explanation given

[humble wharf]

Too good at the music

I thought entrati intentionally made the guitar tbh

[lofty girder]

entrati only made his pistol

[humble wharf]

Even then, modifications

[zenith jacinth]

Nope, lizzie was not part of the design

[lofty girder]

which is less cursed than the arsenal icon

the magazine is offset in the icon

[humble wharf]

So would Batch temple just have a guitar flamethrower or what?

[zenith jacinth]

Why does the riot even have a magazine

[humble wharf]

To hold the bullets

Otherwise youd only get the one in the chamber

[tidal pumice]

ah I thought that when they revealed the update but when the guitar talked I thought it's a xaku deal where it's multiple entities

[zenith jacinth]

My brain cell didn't consider that it still needs to hold the bullets

[humble wharf]

Plus its there already, no point making new parts when there doesnt need to be

[zenith jacinth]

It seems like there might not be a batch temple

[humble wharf]

The rest are from batches tho

Why would flare be an exception?

[tidal pumice]

this implies others can do it too

[lofty girder]

fairly sure Lizzie only talks when you're using the protoframe skin

[humble wharf]

Correct

[lofty girder]

so while regular temples have flamethrower guitars, only flare's talks

[zenith jacinth]

Yes, but

1. Flare called themselves temple before the transformation
2. Albrecht knows how to make new frames

[humble wharf]

Did they?

[tidal pumice]

it's the past so I think our actions here have some consequence? maybe temple's blueprint was found later as is maybe?

[lofty girder]

albrecht just slapped balsac with Flare's Discography and said "Maek Warframe lamo"

[zenith jacinth]

Their band was called "temple and the rippers" (or reapers idr)

[zenith jacinth]

No need

[humble wharf]

Time travel does make stuff very confusing

[lofty girder]

at this point warframe's time travel is more lateral than vertical

[humble wharf]

Or just lines everywhere, eternalism and that

[tidal pumice]

ye especially with 1999 where most things are of no influence but some can still be observed today

[lofty girder]

instead of a timeline its a timecube where each point in time we visit is a different face of the cube

[tidal pumice]

like the band can be encountered in present day, but warframe technology still comes from ballas during the old war

[zenith jacinth]

It's a timeplateofspaghetti

[humble wharf]

So many faces...

Time tesseract maybe

[lofty girder]

cubed spaghetti, arthur was on to something

probably on Efervon but still

[lofty girder]

Time D100

[nova harness]

Square not cubed

[lofty girder]

im not sure if i want 2D spaghetti

[tidal pumice]

it's more than 2d at least

[lofty girder]

i feel like i'd cut my tongue trying to eat it

[nova harness]

That's the fun part

[humble wharf]

Sharp 2d spaghetti

[zenith jacinth]

Cubed not square

[tidal pumice]

duviri also connects in a similarly weird way tbh, like events of new war and the paradox can't progress without each others help so they have to be connected

[lofty girder]

at this point i think time only moves from the observer's perspective

[humble bluff]

Huh

[zenith jacinth]

Duviri paradox happens between act 1 and act 2, only timey wimey part is the operator helping

[tidal pumice]

ye but still the op helps and later is confused when seeing the drifter

[humble wharf]

Like a black hole kinda

[prime lantern]

Itd be cubed unless Arthur presented me a with a perfectly 2 dimensional spaghetti

[nova harness]

Isn't regular spaghetti 2D?

[undone spindle]

Can I put zeke on my railjack? I don’t have the batteries to check qwq

[nova harness]

Yes all Adversary types can be used on Railjacks

[undone spindle]

Ah oki, I wasn’t sure if infested allies could cuz well… there infested

[zenith jacinth]

No, they have 3 dimensions

[prime lantern]

No

Spaghetti is a cylinder a cylinder is a 3 dimensional object

[full locust]

Ok I have a lore question so

Hunhow said the Archons are there to raise the dead…which dead are they raising?

[quick smelt]

Archon shards can raise the dead due to the power it possesses. Moreso to the likes of sentients and warframes

[full locust]

Ah cuz for a second I thought like, are they trying to revive the Orikin?

[quick smelt]

Nah, both Sentients and Ballas hates them.

[full locust]

Man if Ballas wasn’t so GOD DAMN PETTY. He could have actually been something great.

Also why does Ordis suddenly have a body after new war? Don’t think they explained that.

[nova harness]

So he could go outside and still be inside

[full locust]

No but like when did he get it, and how?

[nova harness]

You see him using it in TNW
It was shown off for a second in the Sacrifice

[full locust]

Huh….I didn’t remember but ok

[oblique dirge]

ship ai got uploaded to also be in a tiny drone body. doesnt really need any explanation

[zenith jacinth]

AI minus the A part

[lofty girder]

All organic no pesticides or growth hormones

[tight pagoda]

You can actually see it behind his "Cephalon" form after the Sacrifice

[cloud steppe]

eyo, who's ur favorite bf/gf in warframe 1999?

just compiled some aoi interactions https://youtu.be/0-luHVaYVns and honestly, she's been my favorite so far

haven't seen every interaction tho, i'm stilll curious on lettie

[soft pumice]

I wonder how many folks knew about this that are new or returning. https://youtu.be/_qfOeI_t1ZU?si=wLe93mbwPXUMUvLb

[glass tulip]

i remember this, it was so cool at the time

[balmy storm]

Komi…

[rapid talon]

ok the best interaction with eleanor yet

[humble bluff]

Heleminth at 3 am

[shadow nymph]

Funny

[amber terrace]

This sent my sides into low orbit

Also, Nova opened up to me why she’s so paranoid of the Internet and I’m gonna find the pee pee brain that wronged her the way he did and I’m gonna feed him to Kalymos

[rain otter]

Lettie.

[rain otter]

Me too Dawg

[balmy storm]

As am I

[tight pagoda]

What's "tannie" in reference to?

Oh nevermind I said it aloud

Like "Britannia"

[cloud steppe]

She's a great choice

[cloud steppe]

everytime she talkks with me it becomes the most emo sad story

[rain otter]

emo?

I mean she's the most infested she has like mind powers she can't control what do you think she's gonna do?

[cosmic quiver]

Ollie's crash course buttons. I get the 1999 thing, but also they don't seem to be consistent for on/off states. Am I missing something with them? Got the bike for the fast route.

[rain otter]

Do you have toggle on?

Also some buttons are toggle and some are not. It felt way smoother then when I originally played it but If you wanna be sure you can turn all your toggles off and it should be better.

[cosmic quiver]

No, there's 5 buttons on the actual floor. Pressing them all adds time, but I feel like you're supposed to do something else with it. I think it's resets (play again without closing out) the game that are causing the buttons to have the mixed states.

[rain otter]

Wait

There are?

[cosmic quiver]

Have fun, they're driving me insane. Pun intended.

[rain otter]

I've never seen any of the even fastest times do that.

Also it is possible to get crazy times legitimately. A dev even had one at like 27 seconds(?)

Around that.

[cosmic quiver]

I figured it'd be like a glyph unlock or something. The fastest times literally can't do it because it adds "+1999 seconds" to your time and there is an audio cue.

[rain otter]

Wait really? Lmao didn't know that existed.

[cosmic quiver]

Yeah, who knew, "You are late" and all that.

[gentle cape]

...do i spoil the chats for myself bc im That impatient or do i just. wait...

[cosmic quiver]

Which chats? With the NPCs on the PC? Honestly, you've got the rest of the lifetime of Warframe to read 'em.

Compelling? Yes, but losing the organic edge to the conversations makes them less enjoyable I imagine.

Unless you're looking for clarity, the new protoframes seem to have decent explanations weaved into their dialogues for... the lore.

[balmy storm]

Wait what adds 1999 seconds?
:o

[lofty girder]

COME OUT YE BLACK AND TANS! COME OUT AND FOIGHT ME LIKE A MAN

[gentle cape]

yeah but i also wanna know the different things minny & vel say...

i already got kaya's whole thing spoiled for me

[cosmic quiver]

Spoiled in case people want to hunt themselves, but at the yellow dots on the map. Excuse the MSpaint shennanigans, was trying to map out clocks to see how people got under 5 second times. (It doesn't seem possible even mapped out honestly.)

Got distracted by these while doing it honestly.

Near as I can get is just over a minute being pretty crappy at driving. (1:07 so far)

[obtuse gyro]

Its weird. I found some in the on state and some in the off state. I hit all of them to get 1999s added, but hitting only the one state doesnt do much

[cosmic quiver]

They all start off I think. Turning them on triggers the extra time. Resetting the map after a checkpoint they all start on. (otherwise the ones hit after a checkpoint don't stay on), then you can hit them to turn them off, but both options don't really... "do" anything.

Well, anything extra.

[rapid talon]

dang it, drifter doesn't know the reference to "up to 11" despite me blasting on-lyne on my somachord for months on repeat now

[lofty girder]

Drifter is used to counting in Base15, ever since they got a spare hand to count with

[verbal needle]

Weird question, and dunno if it applies here but anyone get all the Hex to play DnD? I forgot what its called in-game

[zenith jacinth]

Fables&frontiers

Or fnf for short

[verbal needle]

Yeah that. Whats the ending? I only got Lettie n Eleonor so far

[zenith jacinth]

I'm. Not sure. I never got a resolution even after recruiting everyone

[quartz pulsar]

Got the blurry screen glitch during Komi in Duviri... And an unwelcome guest?!

[jagged crystal]

tennocon 2025 looks for my operator 🎉

[quartz pulsar]

Uh.

[hollow scaffold]

interesting way to hold yourself but alright

the bugged dream

(this was my friend not me)

[slender turret]

So is it possible that your furniture placement will make your hex partner not show up in the backroom? Ik they wander now. But Arthur just disappeared

[nova harness]

No it wouldn’t

[slender turret]

So they just dip after a spin around the room? Lol cuz I made the couch into a bed and ik some of the hex stand between the couch and the coffee table

[slender turret]

Ty for clearing that up tho

[nova harness]

If a spawn wouldn’t work they would probably just clip into the furniture

[grave breach]

so uh tl;dr what unreleased stuff did they announce? wei only caught the last 10 minutes lol

[rapid forge]

I did it. I made the square spaghetti

[nova harness]

Disgusting isn’t it

[obtuse gyro]

🤺 🤺 🤺 Get back I say!

[rapid forge]

It was bafflingly okay. I think I could get away with a little more gelatin, but breading it in a bread crumb/Parmesan cheese/Italian seasoning mix and frying it went surprisingly well!

[nova harness]

You must be a better cook than Arthur then

[rapid forge]

Arthur has a skill issue, heh. Tannie boy needs to get on my level

[reef compass]

and so we all move here from the devstream xD

[bold magnet]

yup

[tender pine]

@bold magnet I'll be genuinely shocked if they don't do anything anymore with protos

even in a hypothetical 'we're done with 1999" scenario

[reef compass]

yeah I believe also that it was said the new batch wouldnt be the last...

[bold magnet]

me too!!!!
it'd be genuinely the weirdest thing they ever did, i understand that like you have to have something new but considering the protoframes had a LOT of build up it'd be weird to just leave them there

[obtuse gyro]

Did yall not get the lines in the kim where they effectively sign post the possibilities for future protoframes?

[reef compass]

exactly

[bold magnet]

there were also lines in kim that suggested we'll still be doing something in 1999

im a bit confused as to how that'd work if they just move on

[tender pine]

I could see a scenario where suddenly you just have protoframes out and about in the origin system

[bold magnet]

i mean i dont expect them to stay on it forever but i also dont want them to just do two updates with it and then abandon EVERYTHING

[tender pine]

like imagine if one year they decide to update one of the open world zones

[reef compass]

I mean, 3rd orb was blatantly mentioned

[tender pine]

and the entire premise of the update is "bunch of protoframes, created an outpost out in the plains of eidolon, go checkout what's going on"

and that's your new syndicate

[heavy gulch]

ok, hi, so, while doing the "find out more about the new things added in the last updates in 1999", just found out romania being mentioned🗣️ 🔥 🔥 ||[Minerva is Romanian; while selecting some dialogues, Minerva/MomToxicated said and i quote "Du-te dracului!" which is like "go to hell"]||

[obtuse gyro]

I meant he biggest caveat is that reb literally said to go ask entrati lol

he's the only way to make protoframes

and the clown sure aint in 1999 anymore

[bold magnet]

me too! i always thought they'd get the hex and the techrot encore protos out of 1999 or something

and while narratively it might not make sense, it also doesnt make sense to go like "you guys are like family to me" and then just....move on

[obtuse gyro]

Minerva is from Libertatia, she just knows many languages as part of her job

[heavy gulch]

shhh, let me believe

[bold magnet]

it seems like they want you to get attached to these characters and that they'll have a bigger role in the future

[reef compass]

I mean, Teshin is there in the cave, playing komi with the bunny I guess... for who knows how long

[tender pine]

that's the other thing..........there's nothing to say that every major story update from now on, doesn't also just involve protoframes

you find a group of em, everywhere entrati pops up at

[bold magnet]

yeah but with the hex there's kim chats, the dating system, the gemini skins, like a looot more buildup than teshin ever had

and it doesnt make sense to do all that and then just forget all about it!

[obtuse gyro]

theres not much issue narratively, you evidently have been going back and forth the whole time, choosing to stay in 1999 because you like them

your personal transit between times is a thing suggested to exist

[bold magnet]

i mean yes but if they dont give the hex new content after it its just a bit nonsensical to me

[tender pine]

the thing with the protoframes is, I would be shocked if DE didn't anticipate that they'd be popular, but I think perhaps they didn't expect 1999 as a setting to be so popular.

between how lovely the protoframes are, as characters, and how they created an entire new line of skins for them (that are probably doing very well), I think protoframes are here to stay. They add so much character to the warframes, we've been with for so long

[obtuse gyro]

as well as your behind the scenes interactions with characters you left behind in Origin

[bold magnet]

even something as basic as like new interactions

[reef compass]

There is also the bit about how 1999 seemed to have rumors about connecting with Darksector. But it's just homages
That hyped it a lot too

[heavy gulch]

even so, why, from all the languages, she chose that one. it may be because i'm a native and everytime i get angry i tend to cuss in my own language, but same applies for some of my international friends (arabs will curse in arabic, germans in german... etc)

[bold magnet]

i mean what is libertatia even supposed to be

[obtuse gyro]

USA

[bold magnet]

OH right

[obtuse gyro]

PapaPolar: joy of having been stationed on so many overseas ops. getting cussed out in 100 different languages

[bold magnet]

anyways

about 1999; i really hope they explore more ways to integrate the new characters into the story and abandon the "add and forget" mentality of previous updates

because it'd be lost potential especially since they made the game VERY popular

[reef compass]

I am really baffled that with how popular Gauss got they didn't do a bit with Gauss and Grendel in Big Bytes Pizza.

So far they are only mentioned as Zeke trauma.

[bold magnet]

like i had people who never showed interest in warframe think about playing the game because of the hex

[reef compass]

Or ZeVilla shop for cycle cosmetics and protoframes working there

[bold magnet]

i get moving on but selling it as "the new era of warframe" just to do nothing with it later is ?

[tender pine]

the whole "next generation of warframe" people unironically viewing 1999 as "warframe 2" was insane. Some of it is on DE, some of it is on the community.

for better or worse, DE's content pipeline as a pattern, and 1999 is our 4th "content island"

and it's like, if you didn't think there was a possibility 1999 was going to play out, like every other major end of year update, idk what to tell ya

[obtuse gyro]

4th?

With how much warframe players complain about content islands you'd imagine a whole archipelago

[south widget]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/hiC4ET8X6C the true end game of warframe

Become railjack

[tender pine]

technically there were content Islands before new war, but post war, it's I guess

zariman, Duviri, Albrecht's lab, and 1999?