spoiler-chat

[amber terrace]

I find it wildly entertaining that Albrecht seems relatively tame for a high profile Orokin and the Cavia and the Hex exist

But then again, our only other viewpoints are Nihil, Ballas, and the guy who signed off on the Zariman and also got killed by Voruna

[zenith jacinth]

Not really

[woeful patio]

What did he said...

[tight pagoda]

Google translate says "Is there no Turk on server?"

[raven spoke]

So I made a joke at amir's expense, kinda teasing him, he responded with Har Har and hasn't talked to me in 3 days.

[covert tree]

Deserved

[raven spoke]

Not really the guy likes to annoy an target people with pranks and jokes, and refuses to say hello.. He clearly couldn't take the heat from the kitchen he was cooking in

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shut-stupid-slap-slapping-gif-18382942

[raven spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-jokes-on-you-im-into-that-he-man-gif-19093194

[subtle night]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-mr-goodman-i-want-a-filet-mignon-filet-mignon-supermariologan-gif-13554414795906019923

[icy ore]

Soo... For you, Who Will be the next prime ?

[prime lantern]

He's well mannered but tame not really

[terse nexus]

Lavos or yareli, idk which

[amber terrace]

Even in comparison to some of the other Orokin we’ve seen?

[covert tree]

Better be lavos

[thick jolt]

Hints in devshorts seem to point towards lavos

[icy ore]

Even more so with the snake year lol

[hexed star]

Voruna

[swift mesa]

It had better be Voruna

I need my wolf Prime to go with my collection.

[balmy storm]

The next prime is def Lavos
Followed by Yareli

[digital kindle]

Yeah Voruna is abit further out as a Prime

[ember bay]

You guys think Lavos is gonna get Sepulcrum? Honestly I'd like to see something else

[balmy storm]

I kinda hope so but we’ll see

I’m more curious if he’ll get the entrati prime treatment or the more traditional prime treatment

Cause Xaku Prime being very entrati-coded was such a nice treat and to some degree it could make sense for Lavos cause. Alchemy
But he wasn’t an entrati frame specifically so 🤷‍♀️

[ember bay]

I'm expecting the entrati design, it makes sense. Alchemy is always one of those strange philosophical/scientific hybrid pursuits that seem right up entrati's alley.

Kinda hope he gets an archgun or something like that tho. Mausolon or Cortege would be amazing

He IS one of the few frames that can restore archgun ammo after all

[frigid canopy]

Oh dear Mausy Prime would be total BS lol

[gray ivy]

I feel kinda insane for never having done a Sister of Parvos

tenet arco plasmor is like insane, right?

[frigid canopy]

"Hey! U see that insert strong enemy here?"

Not anymore! Let's rip the Mausy Prime Alt fire for 3.2 billion damage, crashing the universe as we know it

[wild wind]

Oh my god mausolon prime would be delightful

If it doesn't happen I'll be heartbroken

okay but what if Voidrig Prime

[gray ivy]

do any archguns have a prime variant

[frigid canopy]

honestly, I want more mechs. They're so cool, but the mods for them rn are kinda bad, ngl

[frigid canopy]

yes, corvas and larkspur

[gray ivy]

oh, then it's on the table

[wild wind]

Not even bad, it's just their use-cases are so limited

[gray ivy]

I mean they're cool but it's also like why would you ever use a necramech outside of being forced to

[wild wind]

Like, if you've built your ground gear properly it's entirely possible to out-damage everything short of Arquebex

[gray ivy]

like even if they were really good, your warframe and weapons are insane

and you get to move fast

[wild wind]

The only game mode where you NEED a mech is Orphix which

Well

[ember bay]

I wonder if DE would ever consider breaking the normal prime release cycle to specifically bring us vehicles like necras or kdrives

[wild wind]

..........

That's actually not a terrible idea?

[gray ivy]

for a while I didn't even know you can use a necramech there lmao

[frigid canopy]

what needs to happen IMO is the ability to use frame mods in mechs. cuz my mech is kitted yet it dies instantly in steel path

[gray ivy]

and I'm still confused about the mechanics that let you use a necramech there

like I get it, it's old tech or whatever, but we definitely still use transference on it, so it makes no sense to me

[ember bay]

Mech in SP is like hotline miami mode. You die in one hit but so does every enemy vaporized by arquebex

[wild wind]

hahaha

[wild wind]

faraday cage

[gray ivy]

lmao, didn't expect a hotline miami reference in a warframe discussion but I'm here for it

[frigid canopy]

ah, true. I don't like playing that way tho. I like to be the unstoppable force that the enemies run away from and cry

[balmy storm]

I’m still holding out hope we’ll get a new mech eventually

[wild wind]

They've talked about it for years

[balmy storm]

Please DE
Please
You gave us slots
Give us at least one more

[wild wind]

They should do at least two more IMO

[balmy storm]

Yeah

I can maybe see they’re harder to concept tbh

[gray ivy]

I'm pretty sure they've stated quite recently they have no plans currently to release another one as their focus for now is gonna be making the current ones better

[balmy storm]

But like
C’mon
Companion mech that uses the lab mech dogs

[wild wind]

I'd actually love a Sentient themed one

[balmy storm]

I’d take a Murmur themed one

I still want Murmur weapons
Or a void angel themed frame
Just
Gimme void corruption

Give me a Murmur accessory too, like how we have for almost all the other factions
The shoulder armor

[wild wind]

Like Caliban-as-Necramech. Adaptive armor, vomvalyst spawning, damage fields and anti-Sentient munitions

[balmy storm]

Grineer with cleaver in their head
Corpus with redeemer
Ancient with arrows
Broken Narmer veil
Etc etc

[ember bay]

Rock hands coming off of qorvex would be badass

[gray ivy]

speaking of redeemer, I'm really struggling to make that weapon broken

[wild wind]

Void corrupted frame would be horrifying, I love it

[gray ivy]

like there has to be a way, right? but the only way I can get passable clear in SP is like using rhino and occasionally getting a blast proc on a headshot that clears a pack

[wild wind]

Something with the fractal aesthetic of the Void angels

[balmy storm]

I still think a quest where we CONCEPTUALLY EMBODY A FRAME would be so cool

[balmy storm]

YES
you get me

[wild wind]

Oh man, there's that whole line of "What if the Sentients designed X Warframe"

You could ABSOLUTELY do that with Void Angels and the Murmur

[balmy storm]

Love those series of skins ngl

[gray ivy]

well now you're getting into the territory or "why and how"

[wild wind]

Start with Dagath and Xaku

[balmy storm]

Yessssss

[ember bay]

That's a clever idea, kinda close to what xaku does

[balmy storm]

Erra wants a word.

[wild wind]

It's purely what-if material

[gray ivy]

sure, it's not entirely out of the question either

I just think it would be hard fitting it in

[balmy storm]

I still theorize Xaku’s a product of those lost frame’s emotions, specifically loneliness and feeling broken and ofc the void does what it do and brought them together

[balmy storm]

So cool..

[wild wind]

I mean it already exists and they look great

[balmy storm]

I hope we get more at some point ngl

[gray ivy]

actually wait, isn't revenant or someone else an eidolon themed frame

[wild wind]

They've moved into Tennogen territory I think, DE releases a few Tennogen skins with the same naming pattern

[balmy storm]

Love that limbo deluxe that’s also just him as a sentient lmao

[wild wind]

yeah barely, and on paper

[balmy storm]

All the ysts

[gray ivy]

yeah, I don't think his lore is like sentient design, but just putting it out there that maybe it's not out of the question to expect more

[balmy storm]

Revenant was originally a vampire named Vlad
Then is sorta an Eidolon but. Meh

[frigid canopy]

Ya boi did it. I'm in w Lettie. This time, don't pick the only option that bars the relationship lmao

[gray ivy]

how did you bar a relationship with her, game literally forced me to flirt with her after I was already dating Aoi lmao

felt weird

[wild wind]

Like, Eidolons have weather manipulation, magnetic attacks, slams, seeking lasers, disco balls, and are built from sentient parts mixed with material that gathered near sentient bones

Revenant has mind control, a rush attack, damage immunity and a disco ball

What part of that is an Eidolon????

[frigid canopy]

The move in text I got gave me four options of who she "would have to thank if I was stolen from her" and I picked the only answer out of the four that flipped the "LettieNoDate" bool to true (I ran the convo thru the KIMulacrum to see this)

[gray ivy]

the disco ball is eidolon-esque

with the lazers and all that

[wild wind]

Right!

I think it's a waste of a concept, as someone who likes Revenant

[gray ivy]

move in text?

[wild wind]

What they should do is pull a "natural archon" kind of deal

[gray ivy]

also what was the answer lol

[wild wind]

Where a Warframe and Sentient destroy each other and then merge

[gray ivy]

honestly I think next rotation I might try Eleanor dating, idk why but Allison Tyler's voice acting is actually just like

so good

I wonder how she'd be in the backroom

also the new year's kiss in regards to her is still unspoiled for me

[frigid canopy]

the chat message that makes the proto move into the backroom

[gray ivy]

I don't remember what that was with Aoi lol

wait I can check ig

[frigid canopy]

it's the metal crane chat

where she finally folded 1000 if ur dating her. otherwise she becomes Best Friend

[gray ivy]

oh that seemed like kinda straightforward, although I wasn't aware picking the wrong option there would ruin me

[frigid canopy]

Aoi is very sweet, and it's almost impossible to make her mad at u lol. Lettie on the other hand...u gotta be play ur cards right, like Ella but in a different way

[gray ivy]

also I did have that bug where she was Best Friends with me anyway for a bit but I think that got resolved after a couple chemistry increases

[gray ivy]

yeah, I do think going for Aoi is kinda easy mode because she doesn't have the rough edges others do in regards to like approaching dialogue

at the same time, Eleanor seems kinda chill as well

Lettie mainly seems like potentially pretty difficult, maybe Arthur too

[frigid canopy]

Lettie is tough because she makes u push her back on certain things. If she gets sassy, ur supposed to put her in her place a little bit. But don't be rude about it

[untold fjord]

I'm not getting messages from the kim chats anymore, did I do something wrong?

[ember bay]

They stop once you max them out

[wicked iron]

I hope it'll get fixed with the release of the Technocyte Coda!

[frigid canopy]

yeah me too! I really want to get all the paths to patch everyone back together again. This loop I got Lettie and Ella to talk again, but Amir is still feeling outcasted a lil bit

whereas it was the opposite last loop

[wicked iron]

I think I managed to get them all amiable with each other, but I just want more conversations lol

[amber terrace]

Personally if the convos were to continue I’d want to force everyone to play DnD with Amir

The only thing making me hesitant is that I don’t want a daily thing that I have to babysit

[true granite]

Thisss

[balmy storm]

same

[fading turret]

moving from gen chat

Out of all the multiverses I've seen in media since Endgame made them basically mainstream, Warframe has to be the best one (again, idk if Eternalism was confirmed before or after Endgame). The multiverse exists. It's just there. We can't treat it like it's Rick & Morty and run off to avoid consequences. We aren't able to escape to a different plane of reality when things go wrong, ie Ballas wins and Narmer takes control. We have to fix it. It's our reality.

The Drifter can't stay in the Origin System because they are the Operator too. Only one can be there at a time. The multiverse itself doesn't allow them to team up and fight bad guys together. And we can't just bring a massive squad of dudes from the neighbouring universe to solve our problems either.

Everything that ever could have happened, has happened. Every choice and decision becomes its own reality. It's in and of itself an infinite multiverse.

You know they exist. You can't go to them.

I got into this topic chatting with friends in another server, we were on the topic of Mortal Kombat and how it's become yet another crappy multiverse. It was okay when ||it turned out that both Shang Tsung and Liu Kang won because their battle separated the timeline into two and so theres two timelines, one where either of them defeated the other and made their New Era, but then NRS went ahead and made it so their battle shattered the timeline into countless realities, and everyone in MK ever has defeated Kronika, became a Titan, and has their own timeline from those countless realities||

[hearty pendant]

quick search says endgame was 2 years before the new war (afaik first direct mention of eternalism n how it works)
definitely could've impacted it, but probably not like. a massive sway i don't think.
i agree that warframe's handling of the multiverse stuff is done very well. they exist. you know they do. but they're completely inaccessible. drifter being the exception that makes the rule.

[fading turret]

Aye that's great to know.

Maybe Endgame impacted the writing or maybe it didn't. But DE's spin on it is masterful.

It also means that every single choice and consequence is canon too. Every single player is the Chosen Tenno, but also just a random Tenno who's squadded up with the Chosen Tenno.

[hearty pendant]

||tbf mortal kombat has always had a 'this person won and here's their story after' type thing. yea the kronika-titan-timeline thing is farther than ever before, by a long shot, but the basic formula has been there a while||

[fading turret]

||While true, most of those endings are decidedly not canon anyway. Besides which, Kronika was meant to be defeated exclusively by an ascended Liu Kang. The Chosen One. But now she can be killed by friggin' Moloch???||

[hearty pendant]

||damn my boy moloch can kill a titan? wild. yea mk's handling of that is definitely weird lol. i haven't looked into anything recent (mk1 onwards) but i'd hope its not going in the mcu direction of 'any story, any time and we don't care about retcons or inconsistency because multiverse'||

[fading turret]

||So far no they haven't gone that route. We focus specifically on Liu Kang's timeline and the conflict with Shang Tsung's, until Armageddon where all the timelines clash, and then Khaos Reigns where Havik's timeline starts kicking up dust. But Liu Kang's New Era is the primary focus. The dead don't get replaced - Sindel has died, her soul is in Ermac, but she hasn't been replaced by a different Sindel.
You do get to see and fight alongside alternate timeline versions of some characters like 'Empress Tanya' or a World War soldier version of Johnny Cage, but that's just what they are. They aren't replacements for Liu Kang's New Era characters or anything like that.||

[true granite]

Personally this is what I changed a bit for my drifter, since even if they're the same, they split into two different people when my operator accepted the deal from Wally.

Which I don't think that it goes against the lore to be honest.

[fading turret]

I didn't even realise that I made both look the same

Also it took until 1999 for me to notice that my Drifter's left eye is a slightly lighter shade of blue than his right eye

[true granite]

Lol xD
Yea, that happens

For me both of them look different

[zenith jacinth]

Who took the right one's eyebrow privileges

[zenith jacinth]

Even drifter isn't really an exception, since they're not actually from a different timeline

[true granite]

The one on the left.

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah actually they look like they'd do that

[covert tree]

The operator looks impossibly murderous

[undone lodge]

For good reason, she just had her eyebrows stolen

[true granite]

She is. xD
My drifter usually calls her a chihuahua.

[wicked iron]

Drifter is from a different one. In Drifter's, they did make a deal with The Man in the Wall, but different from our deal. In theirs everyone else was saved except for them, which is why they were the only one trapped in the Void.

[zenith jacinth]

They never left the void, and thus didn't become part of a different reality

[nova harness]

Scrap forgetting Drifter had a different timeline?

[zenith jacinth]

No

[nova harness]

Not much is left of Drifters timeline

Only the Zariman and Duviri

[zenith jacinth]

They're not subject to the eternalism rule about being unable to go to different realities because they don't really have one

Drifter was unassigned

[wicked iron]

Everyone else from Drifter's Zariman was sent back to their universe. Only the Drifter was left behind.

[wicked iron]

Since time constantly is rewound, daily, by Thrax in Duviri... I wonder how exactly Teshin aged. Drifter hasn't aged, after all.

Not since growing up and time started rewinding, of course.

[nova harness]

I'd say its the circumstances of why he's there compared to Drifter

[wicked iron]

He was aging through time loops, though. If Drifter didn't, and the Hex don't in theirs, how come Teshin did?

Operator didn't during their loop in the Void during The New War, either.

[nova harness]

Maybe its because of he wasn't meant to be there

[wicked iron]

Albrecht seemingly didn't age while he was in Duviri either, though.

No mention of it like there was for Teshin aging.

[nova harness]

Was Albrecht aging mentioned while he was in Duviri?

[wicked iron]

It wasn't, no. Teshin was said to be the only one who ever aged there.

If I remember correctly.

[nova harness]

Maybe Albrecht did age but for him, aging wasn't much of an issue

[wicked iron]

I feel like the Duviri residents would have noticed, and made note of, it like they did with Teshin.

[nova harness]

DE could've just forgotten to update Duviri with it and he might've aged

Should've asked him while we was in 1999

Teshin was a special case

Maybe Albrecht didn't even notice it so didn't log it

Or maybe his void knowledge made some sort of thing where it didn't happen with him

[vestal acorn]

Or Albrecht wasn't there long enough for them to notice his age. If he looked like an older man he's going to keep looking like an older man without much difference.

[wild wind]

I actually think that much MORE time passed in Duviri for Drifter and Teshin

And they aged as little as they did because they aged based on how they feel rather than how long they were there

Teshin's given up on fighting and settled into a purely advisory role, so he's aged into an old man

Drifter's hit adulthood because they spent so long in Duviri even before Thrax started explicitly hunting them down every day, and there's no telling what Drifter experienced in that time

[knotty cobalt]

I just finished The Hex

Sad…

[nova harness]

Have you really though

Hex doesn't finish when you finish Hex

[covert tree]

Wdym sad

[gritty flume]

the quest ending i presume

all of them ded

[knotty cobalt]

Everyone’s KIA

Got rewind a year.

Didn’t know where do I start?

[gritty flume]

build relationship with all the hex members with KIM

rank up the hex syndicate...

[nova harness]

Get Rank 3 and liked with them all

[terse nexus]

Kill them

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-arthur-excalibur-1999-gif-6527909917947973656

[weary holly]

Makes no sense that Arthur won this fight

Earth Military Training VERSUS perpetual death loop agaist intergallatic soldiers + better version of Arthur itself (Excalibur x PROTO excalibur)

[vestal acorn]

I'm bad at Excalibur, it made sense to me ;3

[weary holly]

i really can't see Arthurs winning this

like, he don't seems like to have sword training in his era and just became a protoframe in a few years before that

For me, its just a poor narrative way of showing "value" of a new character

imagine playing this game for 10 years and loosing to some rookie how's it not that proficient on killing "super beeing" has you are (Bosses, Eximus, etc..)

[wild wind]

The difference is that Arthur's fighting to kill and the Drifter's trying to jump into his head

The one willing to go more lethal always wins

[weary holly]

When a do 22.432.432 damage in a capture target i ain't trying to kill it either but it do not stand a chance either

[wild wind]

Same reason Umbra wins the early encounters

You are aware that game mechanics don't carry over directly

[weary holly]

Umbra makes sense because he was a warrior way long before we are even born

[wild wind]

Actually no, the Operator is much much older than Umbra

[weary holly]

Warframe are like literal gods on the lore

[wild wind]

And has much more experience too

[wild wind]

Actually... No, not really

Do you know the difference between SP and normal missions?

In lore I mean

[weary holly]

Tell me

[wild wind]

Teshin calls ahead to let them know we're coming

That's it

We're never fighting the strongest troops

The Grineer and Corpus are mostly killing each other

We're hitting weakly defended outposts to make sure they KEEP killing each other instead of starting to win

[vestal acorn]

Pffff
Ok I'm tickled that Teshin is like "yo Tyl... yeah they're on their way... OK cool make sure you send extra eximus... OK ttyl"

[weary holly]

Yeah

But like

You can pretty easly beat SP and reach level cap alone, just yesterday i made a 1 hour survival mission and killed +2500 soldiers and just left because a have lunch

Their "best troops" ain't nothing still

[wild wind]

Like, pound for pound, the Tenno are absolutely the strongest fighting force in the Origin System

But the Grineer and Corpus control the resources of entire planets

We are completely incapable of killing enough Grineer or Corpus to win

We control the industrial output of space stations

[weary holly]

One question

In lore we have only the Operator and the Drifter or your clan and our "army" of Tenno are canon?

[wild wind]

We get our supplies from the Corpus

Other players take the role of "other tenno"

[weary holly]

but they exist in lore?

[wild wind]

In universe there are several hundred thousand Tenno at minimum

[thick jolt]

Yeah

[wild wind]

I'd actually guess a few million

[nova harness]

There's not an Army of Tenno

[wild wind]

The Zariman was huge after all

[nova harness]

Huge maybe but not millions huge

[wild wind]

I think the Zariman had a population of like 10M at minimum, so a few million kids

[weary holly]

For me, that don't makes Arthur more capable of beating us

and we don't destroy these races because we never seems to be interest in that

We don't have these intergallatic ships but nothing takes that idea that a few millions of mag's cant buy a army of ships with their ships and fight back

[nova harness]

If there was enough Tenno as Grineers millions we’d wipe the system

[wild wind]

It was going to Terra form a whole solar system

[wild wind]

If we ever tried that we'd lose

[weary holly]

our interest in saving characters like Kalh and making friendship with the corpus on Orbis valley tell's me that we are not trying to wipe those out

[wild wind]

The Grineer and Corpus both have tech to break Warframe abilities

[nova harness]

10 mil sounds like too much

[graceful zodiac]

The Tenno, at best could eliminate one of the factions. We then get rolled over by the other faction

[wild wind]

What happens to a tenno who's ejected from their Warframe in deep space?

"the same thing that happens to everything else"

[weary holly]

build up your amp and see these soldiers dying the same way

[terse nexus]

I think we were still assessing and guarding rather than just killing. Alternatively, marketing just wanted that end shot for promos

[wild wind]

Do you know what explosive decompression is

[weary holly]

i mean, if we want to wipe the gallaxy lets just the corpus and Grinnier scanvange the zariman and let them be killing by whatever comes out the void

[wild wind]

.....we don't want to wipe the galaxy, if only because we live there too

[weary holly]

that's my point

if we wanted

the tenno would be preparing for that

[wild wind]

There is no preparing for that

That's a loss condition

If the Grineer cure clone rot, we lose.
If the Corpus reunites under a single leader, we lose.
If the Sentient Armada reforms, we lose.
If the Infestation eats an entire planet, we lose.
If Wally breaks into the Origin System, we lose.

[graceful zodiac]

Eh, now this one is unfeasible. Corpus straight up can't, and Grineer only have short scale

[weary holly]

Protea alone was able to control the laws of reallity itself to defent Parvos and only another Tenno was able to stop that in some parts

Rhino its strong enough to hit the ground with so much force that the time itself just stops

Neckors can control the death itself

[nova harness]

Now the Sentients on the other hand

[graceful zodiac]

There's a bit of hyperbole there

[vestal acorn]

Also what if the Excalibur we got in 1999 was just a base Excalibur. No mods, no nothing, just a little shell just to get us there

[nova harness]

Orphix activate

[wild wind]

Corpus Nullifier says what

[graceful zodiac]

Protea only managed that in a specific space she made

[weary holly]

Nullifier's can be killed by warframes abilitys like Excalibur blade

[graceful zodiac]

Rhino is blatant void shenanigans with the stomp

[wild wind]

Sure but your examples can be canned by it

[weary holly]

whenever a see one i just spamn E from a distance and they die

[wild wind]

Heck Nullifiers stop Operator powers from working

[weary holly]

They don't cancel the Limbo bubbles when they get in, and considering excalibur slashes they can't cancel our powers unless they touch us

[graceful zodiac]

Great, what do you do when the Nullifier field is now able to be made ship to planet wide

[wild wind]

Like, going back to what I was saying before, if the Grineer decide that we have to die as a faction they can equip the Formorians with those spears that knock you out of your Warframe

[obtuse gyro]

What do if sentients manage to blast the system with warframe ejection field

[wild wind]

And every single Tenno who archwings up dies

We cannot replace those Tenno, kinda similar to the Sentients now that I think about it

[weary holly]

1kkk mag's using his powers can't move a planet out of his orbiter and extinct that

and a "planet wide" nullifier its expensive, more expensive that Corpus can afford

it was a "cheap" tecnolly" in high level we would have entirely areas covered by that our all the soldiers using it

[graceful zodiac]

I wouldn't say the Grineer could make the Trokar's that wide, that's extensive Kuva use. They more just flood with numbers.

[vestal acorn]

Would it make you feel better to think we let Arthur win

[wild wind]

And then we lose the relays, and then they start targeting dojos, and before too long we're hiding in Orokin Towers because we can't fight

[terse nexus]

I did let arthur win.

[wild wind]

The point is that the Tenno are strong individuals but not invincible, indestructible, or even necessarily the strongest in every fight

[graceful zodiac]

It's not more expensive than they can afford, it's just not feasible with the majority of effort going towards fighting the Grineer

[scarlet arch]

This conversation has the same enegy as elementary schoolers arguing whether batman or superman would win.

[wild wind]

I mean, like Stan Lee says, the winner is whoever the author wants to win

[graceful zodiac]

No Griner, every penny going into Tenno R&D

[vestal acorn]

Haaaaang on, we know this one
Batman ;3

[wild wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_zFYnnn2Y

[weary holly]

1 - the planet has to be have value enough to the investors build a giant nullifier that would wipe a complety planet in terms of resources

2 - they would be vulnable in the process of building it, not just from our attack but from the others factions too

3 - they can afford that, but for how long? Idk about drifter's but Operator's don't suffer from time passing because of the void powers, we can just wait until they burn their resources

And "resources" are the main point of the orokin travels to the void

[prime lantern]

Its superman

[prime lantern]

We do suffer from time passing did you play coh

[wild wind]

? No, the Orokin Towers were hiding spots

They wanted to void jump because Albrecht was afraid of how the sun eventually is going to die

[prime lantern]

Planet wide is hyperbolic but one the size of a capital ship is incredibly feasible

[scarlet arch]

I mean, the Sentients did in fact do that at one point.

[obtuse gyro]

Superman always wins not because hes stronger, but because Batman knows how important it is for the symbol of hope to win, and supes knows batman will go through with that idea

[graceful zodiac]

You're vastly underestimating how many resources there are in the system. Especially since the scenario means the Grineer are gone and the Corpus have access to everything

[wild wind]

They didn't need resources from elsewhere, the Orokin had access to alchemy and could just make whatever they needed out of other stuff

Trash into oxygen and hydrogen

[graceful zodiac]

They could, but they very much didn't

Plus no one currently around would know how to

Well actually, Parvos might depending on the stuff he got from the Sanctum

[scarlet arch]

You're making an incredibly mumber of assumptions in justification of a theory that, by the nature of live service games, can never come to fruition.

There's never going to be a scenario where one side wins automatically because that's not fun.

Also batman wouldnt fight superman, they'd get married.

Wonderwoman would officiate.

[weary holly]

Returning to the starting point

My drifter would simply get out of his frame, use the 2 ability of the Zennurik school and energy dash into Arthur, then return to the frame and beat him up until he becomes docile

[scarlet arch]

I feel like we didn't watch the same cutscene, but sure. Write as much fanfiction about your Drifter being a cool guy who never loses as you like.

[weary holly]

yeah, just as much you lick the feet of you favorite daddy character

as much as you want

[scarlet arch]

Jokes on you, Hunhow doesn't have feet.

[weary holly]

How would you be sure?

[true granite]

Lol

[weary holly]

I mean, my super drifter could lick whatever he want to lick

[scarlet arch]

He's a big spaceship/starfish/coral thing.

[weary holly]

my personal lore seems better than yours

[true granite]

[weary holly]

you are made assumions on his fisiology

[prime lantern]

This is under the assumption that gameplay directly translates to lore

[scarlet arch]

We can literally see Hunhows entire body during the preludes and the new war.

[prime lantern]

And that dashing through him would just immediately knock over the super soldier with military training and then make him sleep

[weary holly]

But if he feels that some part of his body it's a feet

i can imagine the licking of it

• just imagine hard enough on the Zariman and the Durivi would do the favor for us

[vestal acorn]

You're supposed to work with the guy, help him and his team.
That's not exactly a good first impression

[wild wind]

We've got a render of his whole body

Very starfish

[weary holly]

I can remeber using the dash with the operator in a cutscene on the lore's quest

if the drifter has the same powers, he could too

but idk because in the Durivi he don't have

[terse nexus]

Nullifiers that are localized like the annoying railjack corpus ship shock defense thing. Would suck but I can see it happening

[vestal acorn]

Do you punch your boss first day at work?

[prime lantern]

What quest

[wild wind]

This is starting to remind me of the time that people were begging DE to let them kill the Lotus in New War

[scarlet arch]

Buddy, I dream of doing that.

[prime lantern]

Just like the first sentient

[vestal acorn]

Ok valid with some bosses but not at first meeting!
(Hopefully)
I'm sorry your boss sucks

[terse nexus]

I think sparring with arthur could happen

Bonding

[weary holly]

i mean

Arthur it's very cocky on the begging

Depents on your personality but i would imagine a approach of asserting dominance on a "if i wanted to kill you, i could, so i don't have reason to lie to you"

And who decided that he is my boss on that time? I mean, when i enter his body, i do the command

[wild wind]

Oh totally valid, he'd probably enjoy fighting

[scarlet arch]

You have terrible conflict resolution skills.

[true granite]

If the connection works

He just tossed you out

[wild wind]

(Umbra did the same thing, without a working mind)

[weary holly]

idk about that

its just depends on your fantasy scanario

High fantasy have a tedency of be too "friendly" and "docile"

[subtle night]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-starfish-gif-26051014

[weary holly]

Don't compare Umbra with Arthur

Umbra its the goat (imo)

[scarlet arch]

Yeah, uh. Thats because assaulting people is a terrible method of diplomacy.

[wild wind]

Umbra sat and watched Ballas stab you

[scarlet arch]

"I won't lie to you because I can kill you." Is deeply difficult to differentiate from "if you don't pretend to believe me I'll kill you."

[weary holly]

uuh....

Do you know who countrys respect eachother

[prime lantern]

He can kick you out

[wild wind]

Economic marginal benefit

[scarlet arch]

Fear isn't the same thing as respect.

[gloomy gyro]

How productive do you think real war is? What does it solve?

[true granite]

Nah. If my drifter encounters a conflict with a hex member, she wouldn't use the transference since due to the loose connection that member could easily just toss her out from their body.

[weary holly]

"i a wan't your harm, you could't stop me. So, if i'm telling you that i DON'T you just have two options: Obey for your own sake and see for youself or belive"

[subtle night]

That would be kinda funny if during a random misson he does that especially if the night before they fought over something random and he's still pissed about it

[wild wind]

Hex members: stab you until you stop moving

[prime lantern]

Holy edgelord

[scarlet arch]

Girl, you've just described fascism.

[weary holly]

i aint saying that war are produtive but when the atomic bomb arrived the peaced was establish in some moth's

[true granite]

Bro... that's not a solution.

[prime lantern]

You do know transference requires you both to respect eachother right?

[wild wind]

MAD actually almost failed a bunch of times

[terse nexus]

Rephrase? I can't really understand what I am reading. Everyone else seems to know, maybe it's me

[wild wind]

Like, a Russian nuke operator got the FIRE MISSILE message and then didn't do it

[scarlet arch]

I'm also pretty sure "believe me or die" is. Uh. How the Scaldra operate. And also partially how Entrati started this mess.

[wild wind]

Which you're NOT SUPPOSED TO DO

He turned out to be right and there was a bug in the system but the rule is if you get the message, you fire

[scarlet arch]

"I can't be lying because I have a gun to your head." Reads very differently when your the one with a gun to your head.

[wild wind]

In fact modern nuke operators get tests where they have to push the button suddenly

Every time it's a test

[weary holly]

You guys are assuming that the Hex are good guys on sight

you are in a strange time, with strange and agressive peoplo

Fear not only comes from the Arthur of a overpowered unknow beeing but from the drifter how don't know NOTHING when he arrived

A logical reason to be more dominant

In the cutscene, we loses because of a lack of experience and not for "don't wanting to harm"

[wild wind]

But it's there to make sure they WON'T make the mistake that saved human civilization

Bro

We know the Hex are the good guys

[true granite]

What the hell man.

[wild wind]

The entire point of the Whispers flashback is that we actually have been watching the Hex ever SINCE Whispers to figure out what Albrecht's doing there

[true granite]

For me, it doesn't even make sense

[subtle night]

I had a moment for a joke but other then that yeah i always liked that especially if the frame got there personality and mind intacted like umbra and the hex

[wild wind]

You know the Hex before you get there

[weary holly]

Actually

Using Arthur's skin with the Umbra Excalibur makes more sense in the way that when you are out the "Arthur" still fight back

[graceful zodiac]

So yes, someone cleaning has not paid attention to anything The game has said

[scarlet arch]

You dont have many friends, do you?

[wild wind]

And then off-screen, you've actually been in several loops with the Hex

This is just the loop where Wally gets in

[subtle night]

That's what I actually did lol it felt all to appropriate

[gloomy gyro]

I hopped in here just to see what the discussion was and I walked into an argument about respect and whether or not threats work. Warframe community is wild.

[wild wind]

That's why the Drifter can tell them about the loop and that the reactor is going to go nuclear

[subtle night]

Yeah people are cra cra

[wild wind]

Also yes good point, threats and torture don't work

Period

[gloomy gyro]

True

[wild wind]

People will say anything to avoid torture or an immediate threat to their life

[weary holly]

i'm not saying "believe me or die"

Its more like, you are a common Grinnir and a legendary rank 5 tenno spawns on you and tell that his your allie because we have a greater enemie

Why would you not trust him if you see him like a force that you can't stop, if he wanted to be your enemie he would not need to lie to you

[weary holly]

a good curiosity but drives away from my point

[vestal acorn]

I don't trust anyone with a weapon pointed at me?

[subtle night]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-mr-goodman-i-want-a-filet-mignon-filet-mignon-supermariologan-gif-13554414795906019923

[scarlet arch]

See, your not saying that. But it isn't necessarily what the other person is hearing.
And besides, getting my enemies fighting before I shoot them in the back of the head is more efficent from a tacticel perspective. Why wouldn't I assume thats what the guy who's killed several hundred of my.comrades want.

[true granite]

I don't even trust Hydra at this point lol

[weary holly]

Makes sense

So we already knew that he was a "good person"

[gloomy gyro]

Okay, now imagine you're that Grineer, and this LR 5 Tenno with a Lex Prime pointed at you goes, "Just remember I could dome you at any point. Now, come with me." Do we trust him?

[weary holly]

actually i have

but that its not important

[subtle night]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-talking-about-huh-what-what-are-you-saying-stirring-gif-17820207

[thick jolt]

I just cant help but see the argument that started this as "edgelord is mad he lost to the boyscout he looks down on"

[fading current]

https://tenor.com/view/the-darkest-timeline-community-gif-18212973

[true granite]

Ok, this made me wheeze

[wild wind]

Actually you know what I was being rude earlier, this isn't asking to merk the Lotus, this is "WF players surprised when they're reminded the game is about compassion, empathy and friendship instead of causing mass extinction events"

[weary holly]

I did'nt say the we would literally SPOKE that to arthur

But if in the first meeting he starts a battle with us and loses with ZERO chance, would you be pu trust in him?

Like, you are starting a martial art classes, the teach don't need to break your arm the earn you trust or respect but when he spare with you and you see that he his THAT good

you respect him

[scarlet arch]

The leadup to this meme is so good.
https://youtu.be/7I0T_Rl05_c?si=JVQz6smcuTIxGgIS

[fading current]

Freakin love this show

Ooops ping my bad lol

[weary holly]

i'm not mad as a edgelord

my drifter its a chill guy actually

i just ejoy doing RP when a play a RPg game and a write dark fantasy, for me the outcome of some situations are more harsh

[terse nexus]

I think I started it 😅🫣

[thick jolt]

Just thought of a funny argument

Teshin was right we lost against arthur because we didnt conclave enough

[gloomy gyro]

That's just apples and oranges. I'd look up to a martial arts instructor because he is an authority. Arthur isn't necessarily an authority, he is responding to what he perceives to be a threat, as are we when he attacks us. Our Drifter is the first one to actually try to deescalate and reason with Arthur.

[scarlet arch]

Mother of god.
He knew from the start.

[subtle night]

[weary holly]

Conclave its a good way to be better at fighting other Tenno's but we fighted with some warframe's in the lore

but was the operator and not the Drifter

and idk if the drifter has enough "house time" to visit the conclave

[weary holly]

you don't seems to see my point and its obvios that we would respect our instructor

If you has experience handling with agressive animais you would see my point

[prime lantern]

You need the hex to respect you

Bottom line

[gloomy gyro]

I just don't think we need to "Dominate" another person that we just met. I see your point fine, I just think it's wrong.

[weary holly]

when they are in fear and sees you as a thread, let them bite you would not help you to "deescalate" things

But showing that:

1 - you are stronger

2 - you don't want to harm him

deescalate

[prime lantern]

And again you need the hex to respect you

[scarlet arch]

Its incredibly difficult to establish that you're stronger without first harming someone.

[wild wind]

Also, people aren't animals

[weary holly]

yeah

you need to harm like hold his neck until he calm's down

but not the "harm" that rip his arm off

[weary holly]

we are. Like, literally

[wild wind]

This has got to be deliberate

[nova harness]

I don't think that's how it works

[scarlet arch]

You're describing an incredibly controlled form of events not fostered by crawling out of a techrot mouth and drawing a sword.

[subtle night]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-jeffy-hersheys-cookies-n-creme-cookie-monster-costume-funny-face-gif-8042642337998097762

[scarlet arch]

Anyway, if you wanna get into petty dominance games, I think Arthur won when he stabbed the drifters hand.

[gloomy gyro]

What does bro mean by this?

[weary holly]

My point its:

• Makes no sense that we lose

• Its more safer to the mission that we assert dominance on arthur then calm him down then leting if we are friends he decide with a sword in our arm

[scarlet arch]

We should've asserted dominance by T-posing.

[subtle night]

I'm watching this unfold and I don't know what to do besides looking confused over something thats kinda sounds random when it started off

[weary holly]

actually crawling out of a techrot mouth and drawing a sword gives more reason to Arthur just kill us on site than stopping when he sees us

Contribuing to the "agressive animal" situation

[wild wind]

.....so you're saying you think Arthur should have finished you off after beating you?

[prime lantern]

Were also pseudo immortal

[weary holly]

for me, its just a discussion

i'm praticing my english and learning about the lore when i got refuted

[true granite]

I'd rather get stabbed and dragged to the mall by the Hex than "assert dominance" like that. It's not 100% if your solution works.

[weary holly]

Yes

[wild wind]

What the actual hell

[scarlet arch]

Honestly I think all of this is happening because modern media has made audiences incapable of comprehending a protagonist that isn't automatically perfect at everything they do.
And also this particular guys bizarre need to boil down human interaction to the equivalent of two wolves wrestling in the mud.

[weary holly]

Put yourself on the Arthur sight

[wild wind]

Going to say this nicely if the zombie apocalypse comes I hope you're never in my survival shelter

And in case you missed it, transference is a two-way street

[weary holly]

i don't think that you would be dragged while alive in a real situation

[wild wind]

When you jumped into Arthur's head he saw some of your memories too

[weary holly]

i ain't taling about transferece

[wild wind]

That's why he's the one to trust you

[scarlet arch]

Your discounting the fact that Arthur recieved visions of the Drifter's memories when they attempted transference. Arthur isn't a bloodthirsty fascists so he's actually curious about his enemies motivations.

[wild wind]

Then what are you talking about because it's obviously not what happened in the game

[vestal acorn]

He was told he was to meet help, and saw us... he was likely confused because it drew a sword and lunged, but he was told he was meeting someone

[subtle night]

Is that why he was asking so many questions too

[true granite]

They're not going to let me walk by them freely after trying to transference into someone lmao

[vestal acorn]

Also this

[wild wind]

It is, and also why he trusts you with going off on your own, and even straight up abandoning him at the end

He knows there's something bigger at stake

[weary holly]

modern midia made audiences incapable of see that a real world war situation are not like a super-hero movie

and i aint boiling down human interaction to that point, you are just hyperbolicing things

[nova harness]

I find it odd we had the memory of Wally yet Drifter asked Lotus what she saw in TNW

[scarlet arch]

I intepreted that as the Drifter trying to see if they hallucinated the whole thing.

[wild wind]

Modern media actually gives the wrong idea about how wars are won

[vestal acorn]

We wanted to know if she saw the same thing, I imagine

[scarlet arch]

Real world war situations dont involve time travel and sword fighting cyborgs.

[wild wind]

You never, ever win a war by killing every last soldier or taking their capital

That's why the US has lost every war it's fought since Vietnam EXCEPT Operation Desert Storm

[subtle night]

Now that makes me wonder now especially after the the trust he puts in us for transferance I to him and after that he could probably skim over there memories too and actually see duviri if it works out

[weary holly]

the military warfare don't change the military human interaction

[wild wind]

.... that's messed up oh wow

[wraith eagle]

Also, isn't it a depiction of Wally Drifter has not encountered?

[subtle night]

I'm just saying of the other person can see memories then why not

[wild wind]

it's just a lot.

Honestly it probably would be therapeutic

[scarlet arch]

The Drifter presumably sees it in the Sanctum if you don't choose them for the New War finale, assuming they can't see through the Operators eyes.

[subtle night]

Probably yeah especially if I remember correctly the tenno are basically therapists to the frames in a good way so it probably would make things better to explain through memories instead of just saying something like oh yeah this is what happened then rada rada

[wild wind]

More than that, transference was originally supposed to be a technology to help the Tenno adjust to life in the physical universe again

There were going to be human standard dummy bodies that they moved into temporarily, to get used to normal life

[weary holly]

i think that the drifter have forgotten a good part of the duviri experience considering human brain ability to shield us from extremily traumatic experience and the in-ability to hold THAT much information

[vestal acorn]

Unless Arthur doesn't want to experience memories of torture XD
He'd probably think it's intruding, too personal, etc etc

[wild wind]

Then Ballas was like "hello I have an idea"

[weary holly]

See* all the memories of another person would fry out your brain

that's why he only saw fragments and had to ask about durivi on the "telegram" with us

• you personality would be merge with the "target"

[subtle night]

That too but if it's about trust too the drifter could attempt to push those parts aside in the sense of like hey watch me fall of this kaith after almost 900 times of looping or something that isn't just getting stabbed by an angry porcelain doll looking guy

[vestal acorn]

Fair point, I do think Arthur would like the kaithes if he got to really meet and ride one

[wild wind]

Dagath mains:

[vestal acorn]

Don't call me out like that T^T
Dagath is just a really really really really close second

[subtle night]

I've always liked the kaiths design they remind me of the day of the dead esk looks

Even tho there is a skin for it too lol

[wild wind]

Dagath would be my main if I sat down and actually gamed out how to play her and not die

[zenith jacinth]

Huh

[wild wind]

I love the experience but I don't grok her flow, if that makes sense

[vestal acorn]

Just use the Dorrclave, she gets free extra life with the augment

[wild wind]

Pfffft

[vestal acorn]

Yeah that makes sense

[zenith jacinth]

Step 1: use the ability that makes her unable to die

[wild wind]

I know it's 3 at mission start then spam 1, but where does 2 come into it

[subtle night]

Yeah once in awhile I like to play her especially it's duviri and it's circuit

[vestal acorn]

Step 2: let her sword do the ability for you :D

[wild wind]

This is the same problem I had with Sevagoth before I got his augments, and the same problem I still have with the Shadow

[zenith jacinth]

If you wanna double dip damage do dat

[wild wind]

Fair nuff

[zenith jacinth]

Alliteration is not my best ability

[wild wind]

I enjoyed it

[nova harness]

Use the skin in Origin System and ride one

[vestal acorn]

OH DANG IT I CAN

[zenith jacinth]

You. Didn't know that?

[subtle night]

do it on umbra it feels kinda like hes there

[vestal acorn]

No i just forgot XD

[zenith jacinth]

Oh cool my internet fixed itself

[vestal acorn]

I haven't ridden my kaithe out in a long time

[zenith jacinth]

Nvm it's slow again

[scarlet arch]

The 2 triples her crit damage while her 3 is active. So drop it on big groups of enemies, hit 1 and enjoy the ensuing mayham.

[zenith jacinth]

I'm in 3 seconds to send hek

[steep totem]

2 also allows her 4 to permanently remove armor and shields, scaling to strength

if any enemies manage to survive the stampede of ghost horses first, that is

[frigid canopy]

Lettie doesn't seem to notice the Drifter in the Mall. If u stand in ur frame, her head will track it, but as soon as ur in Drifter she only focuses on the frame, and not the Dritfer

[frigid canopy]

So now that I've gotten a text from Lettie today while dating her, will she move in now or tomorrow?

[nova harness]

Tomorrow if you’re best friends rank

[frigid canopy]

ahh okay. So I don't go straight to loved? I thought they fixed it so dating immediately went to loved

[balmy storm]

My partner got Eleanor like immediately I think so it may have just bugged for you

[frigid canopy]

maybe lol, I'll finish my other chats and reboot the game

[balmy storm]

Shouldn’t have to reboot, just go in the mall and come back in

If they don’t show up wait til tomorrow

[frigid canopy]

I tried that, she wasn't there. So I just gotta work a bit harder is all

[balmy storm]

Or they’ll be there tomorrow lol

[frigid canopy]

DE, u need to think about phrasing when u name bools...(from KIMulacrum)

I saw this running thru Aoi's chats to check mine before I did it, and this was a trigger the test run flipped...it's hilarious, but yeeesh outta context

[west meadow]

This shouldn't had me laughing the hard it should.

[frigid canopy]

It's totally understandable. I can't breathe over here looking thru some of these dialogues and bool names

[balmy storm]

To be fair we aren’t supposed to even see those lol

[frigid canopy]

Very true lol, but I think it makes the kimulator very special, and gives the innate title of “comedy gold”

[cursive warren]

how do i get the atomicycle summon in my gear cycle?? i played the demo!!
istg i finished it.. i got ntg

[scarlet arch]

You have to do the 1999 quest, not the demo to get the atomicycle.

[cursive warren]

damn.. ig that would unlock after the new war.. okie man tysm

[fading turret]

Maybe the Undercroft / Teshin's Cave is exempt from the Duviri time loop?

Mechanically, that would explain why you get a different selection of Warframes and weapons each time you do Duviri, Circuit, or the Spiral changes. They continue to cycle randomly, but if time reset they'd pretty much stay the same

Also why the plants in the room to the left of the portal grow and can be harvested

[fading turret]

Albrecht was in Duviri? When?

[fading turret]

THAT'S the Steel Path? He rings the faction on the node and tells them the Tenno are about to show up and that's why the enemy is so much stronger? That is amazingly funny

[fading turret]

Yeah it seems nullifier bubbles have some sort of anti-void properties. It's pretty cool actually

We should buy some anti-void drones from the corpus and throw them at Wally lmao

[fading turret]

Lmao

[fading turret]

How to play Dagath
Step 1. Equip weapons with the highest crit stats you can build
Step 2. Press 3
Step 3. Use 1 and 2 to spread Doom

Her 3 multiplies critical damage based on ability strength, and its multiplied even more on doomed enemies

[obtuse gyro]

check his notes from the Entrati Secret Labs, he talks about his time in Duviri

[fading turret]

Warframe players when they have to read to understand the lore

https://tenor.com/view/bpk-stan-twitter-fall-to-knees-screaming-crying-gif-5472127569644811272

[obtuse gyro]

conversely the Scholar's Landing entry from Duviri briefly mentions an external perspective of Albrecht

[balmy storm]

He literally narrates it lmao

[obtuse gyro]

Not this one tho

[balmy storm]

For the duviri note?

He literally narrates it :p

[obtuse gyro]

Wait youre telling me his secret lab notes are voiced??

[balmy storm]

And Acrithis narrates the Duviri fragments

[balmy storm]

YES

BAU
DID YOU NOT CHECK THEM

[obtuse gyro]

damn, this is what I get for being lazy to open the codex and just reading the transcript directly

[balmy storm]

LOL

I decided to wait and go after them myself

They’re all voiced!

[obtuse gyro]

its faster for me to just open Orokin Archives than to hop and skip to my codex olololololol

[balmy storm]

I literally sat with my partner the other day and listened to them since I’m not having her fight books all day

[balmy storm]

I mean fair but I saw a prime opportunity to go after the lore myself when it came out

[fading turret]

I legitimately never use the codex unless I'm searching for heretofore undiscovered mods

As far as I understand it will tell you where they drop after you've completed the node where they drop

And I finally completed all the railjack nodes

[balmy storm]

:D

[fading turret]

But everything I have is built so good or to my preferences I don't need the undiscovered mods anymore

I'm not that much of a completionist lmao

That being said I haven't touched the codex in forever

[balmy storm]

It’s good for lore

If you haven’t def check out the leverian!

[fading turret]

I've been there. Drusus talks too much

I only go there to donate money for Nightwave

[balmy storm]

😔

[hearty pendant]

i go there n listen to it whenever i get a frame with a leverian entry
well
i try to listen, i get impatient and read ahead lol

[fathom nexus]

Quick chat
Someone made an "Arthuritis" pun, give me a meme of that pun

[zenith jacinth]

What an L, duviri gave us an npc called acrithis

[fathom nexus]

And I keep calling that character arthritis

[zenith jacinth]

I do too, but as a joke

[whole sinew]

What have I missed

I haven't been on since I haven't been able to download it

[rain otter]

since when?

[nova harness]

When did you disappear?

[whole sinew]

Don't remember...

All I remember is acquiring the necramech

I would say like a few months

Maybe last year

[nova harness]

What quests have you got you can do?

[left slate]

Brotha just look it up on YouTube lmao

https://youtu.be/F9a0QFboXL8?si=OwPC2x5-yU4fzdH_

Kablam

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah no.

Do not trust loretubers to explain the lore well.

[nova harness]

Unless it’s GrayArchon

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[balmy storm]

SocraTetris had such a good analysis of Duviri right up until they got into theories 😔

I remember watching it thinking “wow, this was so good! Wait. What’s that about Thrax..? Uh oh…”

[left slate]

Fair

I just like how he explains what philosophies and myths inspired warframe and its quests

[left slate]

I just looked and they only have two videos :[

[thick jolt]

i mean if you like the part that isnt warframe then that still makes them a bad loretuber lol

[left slate]

What?

[thick jolt]

you said you like how they explain what inspired parts of warframe

which is in fact not warframe

so they are still bad at warframe lore

[left slate]

🤦‍♂️

I never claimed anything. It was a suggestion

[thick jolt]

i'm not talking about you exactly

it's just curious to me how the praise someone has for their warframe lore video isn't about warframe exactly

[left slate]

I guess i was trying to insinuate it would be better to watch a video about it than have a bunch of random people explaining it all at once. I feel like thay would just make it more confusing for them

[left slate]

Do you want me to write out a paragraph for every point I like about it?

Save your energy for something else please

You are thinking too much about something that doesn't matter much in the end. You could literally just recommend another video or piece of media

[thick jolt]

i am sorry if some part of what i said felt like an attack but i really just found it funny how the impacting part of the loretubers video didnt relate to the lore

that was the end of it

[left slate]

I also think you misunderstood what I was saying

and even lack thereof

This conversation is funny because it's the just the "I like pancakes" oh so you hate waffles" meme

I just wanna say. If I recommend StallorD instead and I said I like his voice would it still be the same

Guess I gotta be more specific with what I say 🤷 all well. At least I made ya laugh

[umbral wyvern]

Operator or drifter in new war?

[balmy storm]

||the primary difference is just voicelines, you unlock the ability to swap freely post-quest||

[amber terrace]

This is probably gonna get covered in the January Devstream, I wonder how we’re gonna get the antivirus mods for the technocyte Coda

I’m hoping it’s fissures in 1999

Granted I have no idea how that would get implemented so it’s very possible that I’m asking way too much

[fading current]

Antivirus Mods will be available via a specialized Bounty Mission, featuring Drops from various 1999 era antivirus companies.

[balmy storm]

I do kinda hope we get 1999 fissures eventually

Like flavor it as Wally breaches

[amber terrace]

With Albrecht as the goober overseeing the fissures

Like Albrecht or even Loid replacing the Lotus for fissure voice line duties

[prime lantern]

Please have it be albretch

I need to be told stuff by the smart man

[balmy storm]

Depends on where he even is by this point ngl

Like
Where is he now?
Still in 1999 somewhere?
It sounds like he went to Tau or is on his way???

The how I’m guessing has to do with the Drifter’s connection to Wally and resetting and expanding the time loop

[amber terrace]

Even though I got Albrecht’s hat irl, I still need my drifter to mug him in the streets of Höllvania for an in game hat that’s equippable

[balmy storm]

Still jelly of Wally for swiping it before we could smh

[umbral wyvern]

Quick question

Does lotus name matter?

[royal perch]

Nope, cosmetic

If you mean what I think you do

[umbral wyvern]

How do I get the nataruk

[jade crypt]

you do story quest

[royal perch]

Complete quest

Get it for free

[umbral wyvern]

Imma do natah

Normally I do neutral

[gray ivy]

keep in mind it's permanent

[umbral wyvern]

Yeah but

[royal perch]

That stuff is just for an account badge thing, not important

[gray ivy]

valid choice, I'm just saying

[umbral wyvern]

Natah is good and i like it more than lotus

[royal perch]

Margulis a baddie though

[jade crypt]

what about margulis

[gray ivy]

all of the choices are valid lorewise I'd say

[jade crypt]

margulis is pretty name

[umbral wyvern]

Oh I just received All the items

[gray ivy]

margulis feels like the weirdest one but it can work

[jade crypt]

wdym weirdest one its so pretty

[umbral wyvern]

I think that’s a quest finish

[gray ivy]

nah I mean like lorewise, she has a whole complex about her identity and that choice feels like it has the worst implications out of all of them ig

[gray ivy]

it is

[umbral wyvern]

5 new quests

[gray ivy]

like Natah is who she originally was, so I can get behind that, Lotus is kinda this midpoint and works because I think it's where she has gone, but Margulis has always felt like an entity in her mind she more aspired to be but I feel like that may have some toxic aspects associated with it

at the same time, it's not like a huge deal I think nor is it a bad choice, I'm just saying it's a weird one in MY mind

[umbral wyvern]

Siroco

Is that an amp?

[gray ivy]

switch to it if you don't have at least a 123 amp

yeah, it is

[gray ivy]

also, 5? I thought you get angels of zariman and veilbreaker from it, what else?

[jade crypt]

yeah youre right

[umbral wyvern]

I do have a custom amp but it’s not gilded

[gray ivy]

why not gild it

[umbral wyvern]

Standing

[gray ivy]

well, angels of zariman will require like a functioning amp

not sure of a non-gilded custom counts, honestly don't remember all the nuances of what it changes

but worst case sirroco works for sure just for the quest

[umbral wyvern]

This is the incarnon quest right?

[gray ivy]

sorta, not entirely

it will unlock some incarnon weapons but most of them are locked behind steel path circuit

[umbral wyvern]

A little upset I still have to craft paracesis

I’m gonna do jade shadows next

[trim crater]

to do new war? you dont need to craft paracesis

[umbral wyvern]

Tomorrow probably

[umbral wyvern]

I just did new war

I want the paracesis tho

[trim crater]

oh nvm

[gray ivy]

have you done duviri already? it's a great one to do right after

[umbral wyvern]

I have

[trim crater]

I mean yea it kinda weird how ordis craft paracesis in the quest but not getting it after lol

[umbral wyvern]

Oh wow the nataruk is goated

[gray ivy]

alright, then fair choice, it's more of a side quest but the story does take a turn as the first arc is effectively over

[jade crypt]

yes nataruk is love

[gray ivy]

so prepare for that a little, try to follow the new direction of the lore

[gray ivy]

it's a monster compared to a lot of things people have at that point in the game typically

definitely was a monster for me when I got it lol

[umbral wyvern]

Rumblejack is status reliant right? I’m seeing a 40% stat chance

[trim crater]

try using nataruk with mirrage, really satisfying

[fading current]

It’s still a monster for me now haha. I love that thing.

[jade crypt]

i dont even know i sold it to have another weapon after maxxing it

[gray ivy]

yeah, can easily scale into SP, it's just that there are so many broken options at that point, it's not as insane in comparison

[gray ivy]

not a widely used weapon, I honestly don't even know how one would build it

I kinda wonder if you can do some melee influence stealth shenanigans with that electricity proc from the stealth kill but that sounds like it wouldn't work at all

like idk if you can pull together stealth kills to keep doing that, probably wouldn't work, just an idea that popped into my head lol

[umbral wyvern]

Ivara

[gray ivy]

yeah but can she actually stealth kill the enemies when they're unaware of her? since they tend to still be on alert

since I'm thinking of some like survival stuff

either way, rumblejack is not used much generally, it's really the nataruk that's the biggest thing out of all of that

and if you're still using mote amp, sirroco is also a huge improvement

[gritty flume]

is it possible to fill in dante's leverian or nah...

[zenith jacinth]

Drusus sold its contents

[gritty flume]

oops

[undone lodge]

What if instead of loretubers we just made powerpoint slideshows, complete with citations leading to the Archives

[true granite]

I don't like loretubers

[subtle night]

I've always been meh with the loretubers some of them do a decent to good job on giving me the lore without just half the video be about raid shadow legends and others there just there

[real niche]

Socra is immediately being immediately discredited for saying Lotus and Margulis are the same person. Literally no reason to make that mistake.

[nova harness]

He made a second video after the backlash and it went from 9 to 5 hours long

[real niche]

Wasn't it just him cutting down the useless gameplay sections?

[subtle night]

Isn't the lotus more of a reference or something along those lines of margulis I know there not one to one but someone's gotta be there space mom through alot of there poop

[nova harness]

I think he changed some info

He did read the message about all his mistakes

[real niche]

Natah was turned into Lotus, a personality based on Margulis, to be a double agent before she decided to just actually care for the Tenno.

[subtle night]

Mmm that makes sense especially since choosing between the three have that good or bad meter to the side thanks for the clarification I just remember the lotus and margulis were connected in a way

[real niche]

It's not a good/bad meter

[subtle night]

It's the best way I can describe it

[undone lodge]

It’s a Yin/Yang type thing

It’s not morality

[undone lodge]

Not 1:1 but partially based on it beyond the colour scheme IIRC

[nova harness]

DE scrapped its original idea now it doesn’t mean anything

[graceful zodiac]

Nothing about it was scrapped

[undone lodge]

When was this said

[subtle night]

But the yin and yang seems like a better choice then to be just the good the bad and the ugly can't just make things that straight forward

[balmy storm]

I’ve always kinda seen it as an emotional vs logical thing with the balance between them being the truest path as you cannot have one without the other

[thick jolt]

Sleep arrow

[left slate]

Real

[left slate]

I don't think i even notice that. Oh

also I feel bad for choosing the lotus' name. I chose Natah but I want THE lotus back

[vestal acorn]

Even after finding out that "Lotus" was a lie and she was brainwashed and imprinted with that personality?

(I still picked it)

[balmy storm]

Technically she picks it in-universe but yes us the players pick it

[balmy storm]

Margulis was the brainwashed identity
Natah is who she once was
Lotus is the only identity she had any choice in as she chose to stay with the Tenno.

[vestal acorn]

I should have been more detailed but yes that
Lotus is the end product of the Margulis imprint. But I definitely understand her questioning how much of the decision was really hers after learning what they did to her.

[terse nexus]

A synthesis of choice, birth, and circumstance I think

[vestal acorn]

I really am anxious to see how she comes to terms with it all. Because as of 1999 she's still very fresh out of this crisis

[terse nexus]

What she is now I mean. I just realized that can be interpeted as a generalized statement

It kind of is generalized nvm

I mean, the lotus is who she chose to be, margulis who she became by hard circumstance, natah is what she was born and formed to be.
And that now she is a synthesis of all three, although there is more to it I think

[frigid canopy]

Synthesis? ... Synthesis?? Cephalon Samaris intensifies

[fading current]

https://tenor.com/view/cephalon-simaris-simaris-warframe-sanctuary-onslaught-intensify-gif-11759037

[terse nexus]

She is still where she was after the 1999 prologue btw, you can visit her in sanctum anatomica and she says stuff passively.

(Near the cliff)

[ebon jolt]

What can I do better for where I am currently (I'm like, pre New War.)

I'm really vibing with this gun but I'm not entirely sure how to build it.

[balmy storm]

I can send you what I’ve been working with, it’s treated me pretty well

[ebon jolt]

Sure!

[balmy storm]

Mobile doesn’t show where I’ve put my polarities but I’ve formaed this thing 4 times
Which ngl was worth it cause it’s such a fun gun!
If you lack the galvanized versions just use the normal variants
I’m sure this can be improved upon too so if you have the simulacrum I def suggest testing it out

I also use stablizer more just for me but you could probably run ammo mutation if ammo is being an issue

I def recommend clearing the star chart and running arbitrations to get galvanized mods btw, it’s def a time sink but it helps so much in the long run
I went without it for as long as I could but once you have access to them it’s really nice
Though to some degree you need to recognize when to use them and when not to, like a status primer probably doesn’t need galv mods since its job isn’t to get kills but to prime enemies for your other weapons

[left slate]

I know but still :(

[zenith jacinth]

Forma

[acoustic coral]

Can someone help me with the Secret Tank fight I cant solo its 1st phase

[topaz storm]

What name did you guys pick for Natah post-new-war?

I went with Natah and I keep her in Lotus body. Giant sentient body is quite monsterous, but IMO Lotus was always a lie and this body was never Margulis even though she took up her dreams

she's Natah, even if she's all three, and all three play a role in her new self.

but I like the arguments for all three ^^

[terse nexus]

I went with Lotus because she was the lotus for me originally and she went missing for years before the new war (for me anyways) Started incorporating purple into my palettes. Also because it was the balance option and I normally pick those.

Like this

[topaz storm]

Makes sense

I only started playing in august, I didn't have years of Lotus to really be attached to that name over the others

[zenith jacinth]

She becomes a form of lotus after regenerating fully, so in my timeline she chose to be the lotus

[topaz storm]

Works for me as well! Reclaim the name.

To me, reverting to Natah is an acceptance of truth kind of a thing

it also feels like being on first-name basis if that makes sense too

[silent salmon]

I really wish I could change the name or redo the quest, because I picked Margulus at like 2am (and before I understood the lore)

Plus Margulus has the worst skin of the three imo

[frigid canopy]

Damn Lettie...

[amber terrace]

I think if you answer “Yes. Ma’am”, Lettie is gonna move into the apartment

[frigid canopy]

Either way she does, I checked it on kimulacrum

it's just...what she says, like damn, girl

[wispy mesa]

Always a pleasure seeing more content from the other Hex members lmaoooo

[frigid canopy]

Lettie’s def handing out the “content” for me lmao

[cosmic quiver]

So in Deimos labs, there's a sacrifice plinth. Is there any notable rewards from that or just the credits?

[zenith jacinth]

Every non-relay hub has a credits thing, that's all

[cosmic quiver]

Not a hub, it's a tile in missions. Had a big orb in the center with a flat surface, 4 lightning rods underneath, you can drop a necramech or your warframe there and then go press the button on a console. If something is there, it kills it (Your necramech dies, Warframe "dies" and cancels operator mode, sometimes bugging controls.) When this happens, a container spawns on the platform in the center in place of whatever died. I've only gotten credits and obols out of it.

Seems to have limited uses per mission though.

[shadow pine]

question do the choices when picking drifter/operator during new war affect future content ?

[gritty flume]

fass wyrm, vome wyrm, lohk surge, netracoil, jahu gargoyle...

huh...

[warm anvil]

nope

[shadow pine]

is the optional quest do anything ? i failed twice already lol

[warm anvil]

doesn't give u any rewards or unique dialogue, also remember you have access to all of your void abilities again. so invis and the dash

[shadow pine]

i failed because I tried to get all 10, and then the counter reset at 0 T_T

[warm anvil]

dang

[zenith jacinth]

They're named after the requiems

Mostly fittingly

[tough surge]

that are themselves named from void word

[zenith jacinth]

Yes, I didn't add that because I assume it's obvious enough by now

[tough surge]

just to be sure, sorry

[balmy storm]

Voidtongue

[gentle flare]

Am I choosing a skin to keep here?

The 1999 frame choice^

[terse nexus]

I dont think so. Pick a frame who you are familiar with or think will perform well.

[wispy mesa]

||It's who you play during the next mission||

[gentle flare]

oh alr ty

[wispy mesa]

[lethal swan]

I got a whole lot of grinding to do...

[lethal flint]

not sure where to put this but at a loss on what to do.

I just beat my 1st lich but after i choose vanquish and returned to the railjack and i am stuck, the mission will not end and frankly i don't want to lose the weapon that i have been on this journey for by choosing abort

is there anything i can do?

[terse nexus]

If you abort you just have to do the railjack fight again

[lethal flint]

even if i already killed the lich?

[terse nexus]

Yes

[lethal flint]

so i only lose time?

[terse nexus]

Or it registered and saved and is waiting in your inbox/foundry.

Yes, just the time spent on that mission

[rain otter]

well not really a lot of grinding.

[lethal flint]

thanks, guess its time to do it all again

[rain otter]

wait you have to go to the like console and click somewhere to go.

[lethal flint]

the option was bugged

i could interact with everything but the nav control

it's fine, already out of it and going back in to do it again

[rain otter]

alright

[static spoke]

Is the first archon shard you get always tauforged or did i just get lucky

[real niche]

rng

[terse nexus]

Thank goodness there are no dull shards

[rain otter]

rng. well Rng with pity. cuz every time you don't get a shard you get 20% more for that shard when that fight comes back around.

it works like that so you don't use your like 80% red archon shard on a yellow or something.

@static spoke you can also later get something that makes 3 shards into a tau.

[hearty pendant]

yea, but the first archon shard will always be at a 20%, so the increasing chance doesn't matter for that question
(for the record my first archon shard was also tauforged??)

[frigid canopy]

If I simulate a path that ends up with this bool value, does this mean that anybody who's my partner at the time will break up with me?

[tight pagoda]

It is possible to have your partner break up with you

I think this is one of those situations

Seeing as how it's "IsDating is now false" implies it was true

[frigid canopy]

this screenshot is from a sim'd convo with Quincy, and I'm dating Lettie. So would Lettie split w me if I chose this path?

[tight pagoda]

Oh I don't think so

From what I know, the only way your interactions with other hex members affects your romance with someone else is if you break up with someone just to date someone else— not all Hex members view that as a positive.

[frigid canopy]

yeah, like Aoi to Arthur. He hates u for that and will bar u from dating him

[nimble fiber]

so apparently I'm dating Amir and I'm at max rank with the syndicate and he professed he loved me but it says "best friends" is this like a common issue?

[rain otter]

Okay just keep talking for him and it should turned to love

And he should move in then

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[nimble fiber]

Yippie.

[rain otter]

Yee

[nimble fiber]

I desperately need an edit of him to sao paulo by the weekend

[umbral wyvern]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN??? WHAT HAPPENS IF I CHOOSE ONE

[balmy cape]

You just play that character for part of the mission @umbral wyvern no long-lasting consequences

I didn't even romance the character I chose and nothing changed.

[balmy storm]

Picking Aoi is the best pick to me since you get a chance to play as everyone else but her during the quest

||Arthur at the start, Quincy during his sniper moment, Eleanor gathering the infested army, Lettie escorting Eleanor, Amir during “The Great Despair” but at no point do you get an Aoi centric section. Closest you get aside from this moment is when you replay the last bit of the quest and all you do is walk around the reactor room for a sec :p||

[noble bridge]

Oh boy I can't wait to start the chains of harrow quest I says with joys

[covert tree]

Oh you poor soul

[noble bridge]

i finished the quest and immediately got jumpscared with the "hey kiddo"

I GOT SO SCARED😭

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/knights-of-gwen-warframe-wally-wall-e-rap-tap-tap-gif-22908086

[noble bridge]

LMAO

I will say the whispering felt so uncomfortable but in a good way cause it actually made me feel uneasy which is what they were going for

[hexed star]

Rap tap tap

[nova harness]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-in-the-walls-walls-goddamn-walls-hes-in-the-walls-hes-in-the-god-damn-walls-gif-27466705

[noble bridge]

REAL

[zenith jacinth]

Rap tap tapping on wally's door

[noble bridge]

if I could I would have asked ordis to destroy the orbiter cause I don't feel safe in it no more and I just got the home upgrade too😔

[zenith jacinth]

Suda and I must be nightmares for simaris' music-hating self

[zenith jacinth]

It's not the orbiter that's unsafe, it's your mind

[noble bridge]

I can't wait to login and then be greeted with the silly funny haha whispers and slowly go insane

[hexed star]

"...ha ha, hey kiddo..."

[zenith jacinth]

If you want to you can hear the rap tap tap whenever by just going to harrow's market page :)

Unless you have somachord music going

[noble bridge]

I do have somachord but I don't have the recording I don't think

[zenith jacinth]

If you got music in your orbiter it overwrites market music

[noble bridge]

Oooh I see

[tight pagoda]

Intentional, that's meant to be your first "Hey Kiddo" moment

Not a coinkydink

[humble bluff]

What’s bro doing

[nova harness]

Looking at you

[humble bluff]

Where are their peepers 👁️ 👁️?

[zenith jacinth]

He doesn't need eyes to see

[nova harness]

Lidless Eye

[humble bluff]

[nova harness]

Wally has the Vitreum eyes to see

[zenith jacinth]

That is a bad description considering vitreums have eyes in them

[humble bluff]

Oh yeah…those completely non disturbing thing that Albrecht made

[full locust]

How is it we don’t have a meme of this but with a Warframe?

[inner mesa]

As someone who spent an honestly unreasonable amount of effort on a Warframe version of a meme, sometimes you have to be the change you want to see

[left slate]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[terse nexus]

I have to find the time to make a nekros heirloom concept

That's how ember heirloom came into being right?

[noble bridge]

ordis..my guy, I don't think I wanna build this Warframe anymore 😭

[amber terrace]

You’ll be fiiiiiiiiine, trust

[noble bridge]

OH NO-

[tight pagoda]

[tribal hatch]

[balmy storm]

[inner mesa]

Have you tried turning him off and on again?

[warm anvil]

ooh class action lawsuit incoming

[amber terrace]

Chaotic tech gremlin v chaotic tech gremlin, who wins, Michael Reeves(tech YouTuber who makes cursed meme robots) or Amir Beckett?

[balmy storm]

Trick question
They’d become buddies and dominant their enemies

[amber terrace]

be Scaldra Jaeger
just joined the force to purge Höllvania of tech rot
be on patrol on a random Tuesday
see a robot dog(?) yelling profanities
investigate
Scaldra and Techrot systems across the whole sector go haywire

[left slate]

DE please release the lyrics of the ost "Infection" I need to sing it properly

(I know they won't hear me I just want to say it)

[jade crypt]

SAME

[left slate]

I want to make a music video with it

(About warframe of course)

[jade crypt]

i need more music from on lyne

and yareli prime too

[left slate]

Oh my god i never thought of that

if it has girlypop like music I'm going to lose it

[jade crypt]

same omg

i made a little spotify playlist with my favs ost

[left slate]

We can only hope :(

[jade crypt]

yessss

[left slate]

If they ever make another prime trailer

[jade crypt]

wdym, they dont always make prime trailers?? bruh

[left slate]

A lot of them have been skipped

Xaku didn't get one :(((

[undone lodge]

Xaku and Sevagoth not getting one was so criminal

[left slate]

Don't get me wrong they've been popping off with the new trailers but some I wish where explained or at least have a cool trailer

[jade crypt]

what i thought every prime got a prime trailer i mean it just makes sense

[left slate]

on Lohk

[undone lodge]

They didn’t get trailers due to the work on 1999, IIRC

[left slate]

Which is totally fine

But still :(

[jade crypt]

oh this actually makes sense tho

i hope lavos and yareli prime get one then :3

[left slate]

Yisss

[jade crypt]

especially yareli :3:3

the day yareli prime comes out my soul will be for sale i swear

[steep totem]

Garuda didn't get a trailer either
At least those two have SOME lore
Garuda was just... found in a bush, iirc
And that's it

[balmy storm]

That was due to them focusing on 1999 tbf
And they could still get them, idk if you remember the Hydroid Prime meme :p

[hearty pendant]

garuda my beloved, least canon warframe

[shadow pine]

How hard is the alternate tank boss ? The one that give us a tank turret decoration ? I want to know if I can just brute force it or do I need a specific build

[hearty pendant]

from what i hear, the specific build is brute-forcing it via slam damage lol
but i've also not fought it myself

[shadow pine]

IIRC that one is using incarnon sancti magistar ?

[hearty pendant]

that sounds right to me yeah

[wild wind]

regular magistar, unless you need the health drain effect

[shadow pine]

And I just realize I need the steel path to access the apex tank in the first place, welp time to cleae thkae nodes

[noble bridge]

Lmao I wish it was that easy

But I did it I completed the quest and cried and got mad at the same time

[covert tree]

How much

[jade crypt]

idk gimme a price

[covert tree]

$20

[jade crypt]

alr deal

[covert tree]

Nice 🤝

[jade crypt]

well meet back when yareli prime drops 🙏

[hard mortar]

😄 finally getting some new convos lol

[warm anvil]

man why can't she just be straightforward in explaining this 😭

[frigid canopy]

She likes to play games lol, her chats are a game of chess

[nova harness]

Sounds pretty straightforward to me

[warm anvil]

still doesn't answer what the hell it is 😭

[balmy storm]

One of her first chats she literally talks about how texting is an art
She’s a well ready journalist, of course she’s going to be flowery and ethereal :p

[warm anvil]

MAN JUST EXPLAIN YOUR JOB

RAAHHH

[maiden mural]

Rhino Heirloom dropping sooner than expected

[tidal pumice]

my card can't handle all those muscles

[balmy storm]

Do. You not know what a journalist is??

[nova harness]

Drifter doesn’t

[tidal pumice]

btw, I forgot what I named stalker's baby, is there a way to find out? idk what I'll do with this info but I want to know

[nova harness]

There isn’t a way

Just use Sirion or Orius instead or something like that

[tidal pumice]

really hope my actions won't have consequences where the kid grows up and I have to pick his name when trying to talk to him and I call him the wron name

[nova harness]

DE will probably show you their name

[tidal pumice]

ye really don't want to hit him with the dead mom + zoned out dad combo

[warm anvil]

our character doesn't. if i aksed someone what they did for a living, and then i didn't know what it meant so I asked for clarification, and they gave me a weird answer like that...

what do you do for a living? "i do what my boss tells me to do and it makes some people sad" like essentially the same thing 😭

[balmy storm]

I mean sure
But the answer she gives technically isn’t wrong and is speaking from her personal experiences

[balmy storm]

That’s straightforward tho

[tidal pumice]

think bombastine passes for a journalist/news reporter back home

[balmy storm]

Like yes its weird but it does explain it

[warm anvil]

ok tell me what job i was thinking of in my example 😭

[balmy storm]

No

[balmy storm]

i get what you mean but she’s literally just speaking from her experiences lol

[nova harness]

Isn’t Bombastine the kind of person who pushes people away than reports on people

[balmy storm]

Like yes its general but thats also due to the fact she clearly doesn’t want to talk about it too much

[warm anvil]

yeah if I ask someone about something i'd rather them explain what they are talking about to give me context before they start saying stuff like what she said

[real niche]

Clearly a politician.

[tidal pumice]

I thought his job was to sit in the court and say stuff that's going on to the baby and all the crowd, from the starting cinematic mostly

that or a jester

[real niche]

Isn't the whole conversation is about Eleanor explaining what a journalist is, too.

[balmy storm]

From her perspective someone is trying to dive into a personal topic that’s clearly sensitive, yes to an extent there is some duty to just explain what it is but it also makes sense why she gives the answer she does

Like her being a journalist is the whole reason she’s in Höllvania