spoiler-chat

[balmy storm]

You just have to wait for them to animate aside from that

[true bone]

ooh okay thats good to know!!

in terms of the warframe, they seem to just go into that idle non moving pose, is there anyway to get them to do that?

or, to not do that*

[balmy storm]

There’s no way to activate it other than waiting for them to do it

You can use your scanner for non-weapon anims

If you dont want them to animate either be quick or select none for their animation

In which case they will still animate somewhat

[true bone]

wait let me clarify hold on i worded it bad. if im working as my drifter my warframe goes still and wont move at all. is there a way to get the warframe to idle-animation while im actively not using the warframe

[balmy storm]

No.

I dont think so

I mean Umbra can ig but that’s about

[true bone]

okay

[fading current]

When I used transference out of Amir he asked “wait…so I just stand here? Super still? Alrighty then…” in a very high pitched voice sound all nervous lol. I immediately transferred back like “no no my sweet baby it’s ok”

[balmy storm]

Awww

[amber terrace]

I know I said at the beginning of the update that I wanted to stay as far away from Eleanor as possible, and I still do, I just don’t want to accidentally have her dislike me more than I already don’t trust her

TL;DR which do I choose?

[solar monolith]

Ok spoilers for 1999 KIM chats for Amir

||I heard Helminth can play...video games. What???||

[obtuse gyro]

tell her she should

call her out

[amber terrace]

Ah guts, I chose the first one, mb

Lettie officially loves me and has moved in! I’d like to thank the academy, my friends, family, and all the kind folks who walked me through rizzing up this absolute baddie!

So question, do the chats continue once you’ve made it to Best Friends/Loved? I’m ‘Best Friends’ with everyone and ‘Loved’ by Lettie

[balmy storm]

Nope, just checked

At least for Lettie

Cause she’s moved in with me and I got no new messages from her

[amber terrace]

That makes sense for the ‘Loved’ front, and when I reflected on the question, I realized that I hit ‘Best Friends’ with Amir yesterday and he still chatted me up today

So given that I’m ‘Best Friends’ with Arthur, Eleanor, Amir, Aoi, and Quincy, and ‘Loved’ by Lettie, is it worth it to still do the different bounties for chemistry or can I just run the 9k standing bounty until I’m throwing up standing on my boots?

[frigid canopy]

Uh oh....watch urself when u turn away from her now

[amber terrace]

?

[frigid canopy]

Listen to what she says to u...

U get a read on her...preferences in activities

[amber terrace]

I wanna save standing for the backrooms captura(100k standing) but at the same time I wanna buy all the 1999 soundtrack off of Aoi and at least pretend that Lettie has a music preference and try and play different songs

[wild wind]

Just play the Duviri tones lol. Mood muzak

[frigid canopy]

I wonder if the proto u live with comments on ur somacard playlist at some point. Like Arthur is just like "Why all this weird 'jazz' stuff? I'll respect ur taste, but good lord"

[amber terrace]

I have all the Duviri soundtrack and played it on end for like a week straight. One of the reasons I didn’t play Duviri for like 4-5 months after getting all the doodads and knickknacks

[wild wind]

Smiles from Juran it is then

[amber terrace]

Sadly I don’t think I got that somachord tone from the snackrifice and I don’t wanna go back, b0ss

[wild wind]

honestly it's really annoying that you have to play the quest at least twice to get it

[rain otter]

Seems to have like 1 final one for each one. But also I think it might be a glitch.

[amber terrace]

Aiat bet

So do we think Lettie would like The Great Despair?

[true bone]

genuinely curious if anythign really happens if you break up with em, its sad that theres only one final chat tho even if its a glitch i woudlve waited on amir if i knew that

[ebon echo]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaOmqZoMZVn_dcV5qLAp3zf-nTwLr21XC&si=OT_-bNuj_7BXjHdK

[true bone]

oh shoot thanks

[vast cosmos]

Is Hex Finale triggered once I get those small cutscenes of the Hex and me getting connected and Kalymos is available to talk with a yellow thingy?

[true bone]

yeah

[ebon echo]

You can start it from both the cat and navigation.

[true bone]

ok i just read thru the comments apparently you can break up and date the chars with no limits 😭

amirs dialogue HURTS

[frigid canopy]

yeah it does...poor Amir dude, the "What did I...do? really hurts me on a foundational level

[true bone]

IT DOES oh my gosh, i considered breaking up w/ him so i keep getting his daily dialohue but omg

i cannot

[frigid canopy]

I think of him as a little brother, so I could never date him. But I WILL die protecting him

[true bone]

yeah thats fair

i like him cuz he reminds me of myself a ton

[frigid canopy]

I was the energetic nerdy type in middle/high school, still kinda am tbh lol.
But I kinda (I hate to use this term but it's accurate) grew out of it after sophomore year

[true bone]

ahhh yeah fair. i recently got an adhd diagnosis like, really recently and i started playing this update within a few days and i relate with him a lot

im still nerdy, and im pretty energetic around people i know but otherwise its mostly how he speaks and what he says i realte with deep down

[amber terrace]

Amir is my goofy little goober and Void forbid I ever break up with Lettie, I’m running straight to Amir

[true bone]

i considered it for the whole possible bugged dialouge i still want all of amirs chats so 😬 , thinking about it but also i do not have the strength to do it LOL

he has cute dialouge when you like, do the gemini emote (which i only actually used for the first time today)

[vast cosmos]

Ty! One extra small question is this like an actual finale like I won’t be able to talk to the characters anymore? I’m really close to romancing either Eleanor or Aoi and id be bummed if I lost all that progress

[true bone]

you won’t lose any progress

you can still do all the stuff you were doing before, i tried to find that too before i did it, but yeah you’ll be okay

[ebon echo]

True. It's just basically a different ending. After the quest it will go back to how it was. Pretty sure they acknowledge the finale at rank 4 as well.

That is pretty much all.

[wild wind]

the only thing that changes is that the members decorate the backroom just a touch

[amber terrace]

Forgive me if this seems nitpicky, lowkey part of me wishes the Hex you’re dating walked around the apartment

But aside from that one, small nitpick, I’m loving having Lettie in my apartment. I haven’t explored all the dialogue yet because tomorrow I’d like to wake up at standard 7:30 AM - 8:00 AM, but once the festivities are squared away, I’m totally gonna chat up Lettie

[ebon echo]

Me too lmao.
But they just stand there... Menacingly.

[digital kindle]

I assume it has to do with the fact of whenever people would keep the Backrooms deco or not, it would be nice if they could wander & sit on the furniture if you keep the Backrooms deco

[amber terrace]

Question: given I have everyone as ‘Best Friend’ (or ‘Loved’ in Lettie’s case), and I’m R5 with the Hex, do I need to do the chemistry bounties?

[true bone]

i wish i could have my items in two places like my mastery rank decor so i can go between the backrooms and my orbiter 😭

also i would assume you probably don’t need to do them

[rain otter]

I mean you have to do them to complete the bounties and it's like a good way to get standing but you don't have to do bounties.

[amber terrace]

If I may rephrase, do I need to do all six of the different bounties to get chemistry with all the hex or can I just play the 9k standing bounty on repeat until I hit the standing cap

[rain otter]

I've been only doing the second thing

Anyway.

Or well whatever is the easy Bounty especially the assassination one.

Cuz its 2 arcanes guaranteed (safe and the boss drops one) and then also the Bounty reward.

[amber terrace]

I’ve fought the Apex tank like twice because some of my randoms are absolute goobers and start the boss fight in a bounty

[rain otter]

Like how in Zariman if you get a kill the angel Bounty that is like anything that's not a endless you just do that until it's gone no matter the tier.

[rain otter]

Lmao time to play not SP so they can't lmao

[amber terrace]

Also, while I have ya here, how do I improve the lighting in the Backrooms? I ask because Lettie’s corner is very dim

Like when I have my phone on low brightness in the evening when I’m supposed to be in bed, it’s really hard to see her

[rain otter]

Oh lighting works

If you have light decorations

Like If you put a labs chalander there.

It should work. Use the smaller one though.

I need to do that actually.

[fading current]

I mean I’ll still give you flowers Amir…

[true bone]

😭😭

[fading current]

He isn’t happy about it lol

[north meteor]

Idk who said fragmented was harder than apex but youre so wrong

I just had to walk in a circle and keep throwing my glaive and it died

[rain otter]

I mean you Have to use like the rpg and stuff

[north meteor]

Ended up having to use a spoofy build with eclipse cause the tank was buggin

It kept getting insta healed and rockets would either not do any damage or stop spawning

[rain otter]

Did you do it In a squad or solo?

[north meteor]

Both

Already got my glyphs now I just gotta do fragmented

[rain otter]

Gotcha

[north meteor]

The real boss between them though?

Being able to see...

[keen obsidian]

Times like these I wish once we loop over we get something like Empathy Perk in Fallout so we can get good/bad choices. Also apparently I'm just too acoustic for this to see it not as sarcasm.

[supple dagger]

Romancing is hard
Ima have to take advantage of the loop resets to go through everyone because in know there's so many more conversations we won't see unless we keep going and going
I feel much more Lettie sided but why do they all have to be attractive smh

[supple dagger]

Dude, real
The amount of nukes and things going on makes it hard to see in phase two

I just used instant shield gating and rolling guard stacked with Melee Crescendo; slam Tenet Exec and bullied the solo boss

[tight pagoda]

Why do they all have to be attractive

Real

[supple dagger]

The pain of having a partners in a videogame lmao

I definitely feel way closer to Lettie life wise alongside my experiences
Making someone like that happy when they've seen more people die than they could save makes me Hella emotional

Being called sunshine is a goal for next loop fr

[tight pagoda]

She’s also into some very intense stuff

So that’s a plus

[supple dagger]

True
But I'm more here for the characters themselves

I see more in Lettie in relation to me and my own life experiences so that's probably why I feel more connected to her

Weird how human emotions work like that huh
DE and their writing is impeccable

[wicked iron]

I think it's more that she was put off by the comment, sarcasm or not.

[keen obsidian]

Quincy calling us out on that potentially us with looping for min maxing the outcomes will definitely I'll be guilty of for the KIM messages

He called me out after that dialogue where he asks us to tell him the most F'd up choice we did.

[nova harness]

It’s annoying how you can’t chat after getting max rank

[covert tree]

Wdym?

[nova harness]

Once you get your relationship to max they send a final text them you won’t get another again

[covert tree]

No? Do you mean the group one

[nova harness]

Yeah

[covert tree]

Oh well that's not to bad

[nova harness]

All of them stop

Lettie

Eleanor

All 6 don’t text anymore at max relationship

[vast cosmos]

Ty!!

[wispy jasper]

Arthur is a good boy. Having a hard time not husbanding him

I left myself open to development and now I’m stuck at a three way tie of indecision

[teal spear]

He's 100% husband material

[supple dagger]

I got a pc let's goooo

Finally Warframe will become better

[lime shell]

"go straight to extraction, do not pass go, do not collect 200 hollars"

• amir beckett circa 1999🗣️ 🔥

[covert tree]

Nice

[celest forge]

i was "best friend" with dated aoi this morning
but know i'm "close"' with her
its normale ?

[nova harness]

Nope

[north meteor]

Jarvis, pull up chat logs with gemini wisp

[frigid canopy]

What did u do? I don't mean this rudely, it's almost impossible to get Aoi to dump u

[nova harness]

They never said they got dumped lol it’s just a bug being a bug

[celest forge]

That the problem : i litteraly do nothing wrong, i love aoi, so i play carefully with her

[lethal swan]

I am not even trying to romance them, but acting in character is funny, currently on Quincy's and Amir's good sides, Arthur still doesn't know what to do with my shenanagins

also idk if this would count as a spoiler as it is post Namer, but since I always use drifter, I wanted to show my headcannon for what my Operator is doing since Drifter took over his duties

[wispy jasper]

I don’t know that there’s actually any way to decrease affection rank with them. Might be related to the hex rank up capping you at a certain level

[frigid canopy]

Close is rank 5 , so it can't be that

[nova harness]

We actually have a sort of canon answer of what Operator is doing as they placed Jade Shadows after Hex Quest

[lethal swan]

I mean yeah, but like I said, twas a headcanon thing

[gusty stirrup]

my bad El

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa any way i can reset this?

i was trying to be funny and didn't think abt that ._.

[balmy storm]

You can reset chemistry at the end of the “year”

[gusty stirrup]

Well... at least next time I will know what NOT to do

[lethal swan]

sucks we lose all progress with the end of the "Year"

[gusty stirrup]

Fr

At least the rewards aren't a pain like the circuit

[lethal swan]

I just hope our chemistry reset isn't required, otherwise this is going to suck

it or my standing

[balmy storm]

You don’t, it’s optional.

They’ve said its optional
We know its optional

Also standing isn’t tied to chemistry

You will never lose your rank
But chemistry can optionally be reset and is separate

[lethal swan]

good to know

sucks we can't do tricks on the bikes, just tried to grind on mine in Ord Vallis, nope, can't do tricks

[nova harness]

So they won’t break up with me and will still stay with BF/Lover or will that go

[balmy storm]

It’ll stay as is unless you decide to reset it

[real niche]

You can get broken up with if you do very poorly afaik

But you won't lose chem

[balmy storm]

Afaik that can only happen once with the move in convo

Which is just the convo that makes them move in

[nova harness]

I’m waiting for the move in thing to be unbugged

[jagged sable]

There's a move-in convo?

[nova harness]

Yeah

Rn though you can’t get loved with them for them to move in

[jagged sable]

I just thought all ya had to do was get your hex-o to best friend, wait til the next reset for them to be loved and boom they move in with you.

Guess i better make the right choices with Aoi then.

[nova harness]

It’s bugged and so far nothing states you need the reset for them to move in just loved

[rain otter]

What?

Mine is fine.

I haven't had that bug? Lettie is in my backroom.

Idk about other characters

[nova harness]

You didn’t date Eleanor

[jagged sable]

i know it's bugged. just didn't expect there to be one convo that could mean either moving in or being dumped.
If nothing else, I can know not to giga-fumble like Arthur did.

[rain otter]

fair

Eleanor could be bugged.

[nova harness]

Rn Eleanor is at best friend

Unless there’s something else you need to do to get them to move in

[balmy storm]

There’s a specific convo you have and then they can move in

[nova harness]

How do you unlock the special convo though

[balmy storm]

It just happens

[nova harness]

So I just keep going into Mall

[signal kayak]

Who is the bigger A hole?

[nova harness]

No idea who the second guy is so can't judge

[signal kayak]

Dr. Tengus from the grinneer, he is responsible for the infestation outbreak in the once awake quest

[nova harness]

I'd say its definitely Ballas then

[balmy storm]

Ballas

[nova harness]

Tengus unleashing the outbreak has nothing on all the horrible things Ballas has done

[signal kayak]

He also created the ghouls on plains of eidelon, and used vey hek as a example about how effective they were for killing, then the queens ordered him to make vey hek’s terra frame which is why he’s all mechanical

[balmy storm]

Still Ballas

[nova harness]

Ballas has 1000+ years of horrible things

[signal kayak]

Yea but before that, the infestation wasnt anywhere near as far spread as it was before he set loose the infestation all over the origin system to make a distraction to escape. But yea ball-arse is probably much worse

[balmy storm]

At least with Tengus you can make the claim he had to do what the queens asked of him due to the loyalty gene

[nova harness]

Ballas tried to destroy the Sun

[jagged sable]

Ballas tried to get the praghasa to eat the sun all because he couldn't get Lotus to obey him.

[nova harness]

Ballas let his girlfriend die then got mad she died like it wasn't his fault at all

[signal kayak]

Yea im aware of the eating sun thing and the whole jade shadows tomfoolery

Bro deserved so much worse

[nova harness]

Ballas has done way worse things than Tengus

[signal kayak]

Yea but i just wanted to start a conversation about them

[balmy storm]

The Orokin are objectively kind of the worst of the worst

[signal kayak]

Maybe learn some more stuff they did

[nova harness]

Plus Ballas being way way older means thats way more years doing it

[balmy storm]

Like yeah Tengus is bad
But Ballas?
Yeesh

[signal kayak]

Ballas just does a little trolling

[balmy storm]

Mans is just upset his girlfriend didnt love him

[signal kayak]

Enslaving an entire solar system

[nova harness]

Its not even trolling

[signal kayak]

Not even that, he just was jealous that she cared for the children at all really

Bro is the ultimate incel

[jagged sable]

The Orokin in general are like.....very pretty looking cake with rotten moldy food inside that cake.

[subtle night]

he was more then a soy boy but after completing the main story im like yeah i dont need him back if so ill just fist fight him at that point he doesn't deserve my prime guns

[nova harness]

Orokin have had 1000s of years of bad things Tengus hasn't even had even like 10

[signal kayak]

Where even was ballas after the empire fell?

How did he even survive that long without continuity

[nova harness]

Lua while it was in the Void he only showed up after it returned with it as a backdrop too

[balmy storm]

The Orokin can def live 1k+ years
Its just that continuity was how they escaped eventual old age

[nova harness]

Orokin were masters of biology

[signal kayak]

Ohh that makes sense

[balmy storm]

Corpus life spans are more than 100+ so like
Not a stretch to say the Orokin were 1000+

He also may have been in cryosleep but we don’t know

I like to think he was and had something set up to wake him up in the event of Lua being pulled out of the void

[nova harness]

Frohd sees his son as a teenager and he's 105

I bet even us can become really old

[balmy storm]

Oh def

[nova harness]

Advanced Society type thing

[balmy storm]

Like Drifter looks what, mid 20s to early 30s?
And while thats largely due to the loop they def can live much longer than that

[nova harness]

I really want a On-lyne AMA so I can ask them what's so great about Despair

[balmy storm]

Tis another emotion that proves we are human?

[nova harness]

Someone I know thinks I'm emotionless because I kill Grineer

[balmy storm]

????

But not the Corpus

[nova harness]

I think they are a pacifist even in Warframe

They told me they don't kill enemies in missions just run past them

[sacred ledge]

How do they do extermination missions or defense or survival

[nova harness]

Probably leech off others or don't do them

[wispy jasper]

I also attach more emotions than necessary to computer characters, but sounds like a weird flex.

[balmy storm]

What about the infested?
Or robots?

[nova harness]

They are a super pacifist if it moves it doesn't get broken or get killed

[balmy storm]

If they dont have zero kills on their account then they’re not a pacifist

[nova harness]

Last I checked it they have either 18-20k kills

I did tell them they are just like me for that very reason

Sure I have 700k+

But can't moan at someone and do the exact same thing

[balmy storm]

Yeah

[nova harness]

They want to cure the Grineer

Actually, now I'm starting to see why Eleanor hates heroes lol

[balmy storm]

Lmao

I wanna cure the Grineer too
But like
A majority of them are terrible
And even the ones that aren’t engage in cannibalism lmao

Do they know the grineer are cannibalistic?

Like its not even out of necessity its cultural afaik

[ebon echo]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-clem-yellow-eyes-gif-14862662

average grineer interraction meanwhile:
lmao

[vale sorrel]

Most of the time they don't have a choice, but they're still mostly bad people

[balmy storm]

Its cultural as far as I can tell

The cannibalism anyway

[sacred ledge]

Guys doing the trib feet challenge

[zenith jacinth]

Not even the grineer know that tbf

[zenith jacinth]

They're weird for thinking normal action game actions mean anything

[nova harness]

Pretty sure killing Grineer is a pretty normal thing to do in a game called Warframe

[balmy storm]

?
Yes they do what

SM regularly do cannibalism

[zenith jacinth]

Well. Yes.

[zenith jacinth]

Steel meridian is not all grineer

[balmy storm]

I’m aware

It’s still a portion of Grineer and gives us a window into Grineer culture

[zenith jacinth]

Normal grineer "eat" "protein slurries"

[balmy storm]

The only difference about SM is they lack the loyalty gene and actually help out

[zenith jacinth]

Or whatever they're called

[balmy storm]

I mean yeah

But thats not why they do cannibalism

Its not just for nutrition lol

[zenith jacinth]

I require evidence as the worm very much makes it seem like regular grineer don't know that their food is former grineer

[nova harness]

Good bot

[gentle kelp]

Ordis is pleased to help the Operator!

[nova harness]

I'm gonna love using that now

[subtle night]

https://tenor.com/view/bert-shook-sesame-street-wtf-did-i-just-read-bert-and-ernie-gif-11751136

[hearty bridge]

Good bot

[gentle kelp]

Ordis is pleased to help the Operator!

[hearty bridge]

Huh

[nova harness]

Bad bot

Rip

[zenith jacinth]

Huh

[subtle night]

He's Abit broken mabye he needs that update

[balmy storm]

Good bot

[gentle kelp]

Ordis is pleased to help the Operator!

[midnight crescent]

Good bot

[gentle kelp]

Ordis is pleased to help the Operator!

[distant meadow]

this should have been in 1999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKC1QsdxTvU

[indigo marten]

Good bot

[gentle kelp]

Ordis is pleased to help the Operator!

[subtle night]

😐

[frigid canopy]

I leave for five minutes...and now the bot is getting puppy treatment😂

[balmy storm]

Good bot

[gentle kelp]

Ordis is pleased to help the Operator!

[frigid canopy]

So... is this good? I just cracked this and uhhh it ain't mine(I was doing the challenge for a friend)

[real niche]

Terrible stat
Terrible stat
Outclassed by Condition Overload
One of the worst negatives you could roll.

[frigid canopy]

Dex Dakra is busted on it's own tho..so with a lil rolling it should be good. Plus, I actually like the combo thing cuz I don't use Naramon

What's correct here?

[zenith jacinth]

Dex dakra is meh

[zenith jacinth]

Why don't you choose what your drifter would say?

[frigid canopy]

I wanna do the top one, but idk how it'll go

[zenith jacinth]

Do it, systems like this don't exist for minmaxing

[supple dagger]

Just had a version of this but it was Quincy in pink shorts and a love sniper LMAO

Lettie is next loop, so finishing Eleanor on this one lmao

Bruh Ayo 💀

[frigid canopy]

U broke up w Lettie eh? She try and do things to u too many times?

[supple dagger]

No, well yes but no, I thought if I'm going to do her I'll do it right which is why I'm going next loop

May aswell has finished Ele, watch the scene and reset lmao

Thinking of doing all 6 tbh

Gives me Hella content to grind for for 6 months lol

[frigid canopy]

That's true lol

I have done it, I have managed to keep somebody😂

[supple dagger]

Based

Now you keeping her for good or changing on loop?

[spare mulch]

Genuinely forgot Warframe had a mature content rating on account of... well grineer bits flying around. What the hell is this even Eleanor.

[frigid canopy]

Oh, after what she just said to me, I'm a ring thru my TV screen at her

[supple dagger]

What she say lmao

[frigid canopy]

I'll see if I can get it to come up again lol

[supple dagger]

Got that dialogue about 10 mins ago lol, now she's in my room telling me about inappropriate thoughts

[frigid canopy]

It's rampant in the sentence that makes it great. Cuz it ain't just normal boinkin

[supple dagger]

After moving to pc I immidiately gained 180 achievements out of 193

I got popups for like 15 mins straight

[frigid canopy]

LOL

Aoi just said she tried my Archwings, told me they were "gripping too tight around the hips" then proceeded to say "if you ever felt like- Never mind.chuckle"

Even Aoi got the freak in her, damn

[spare mulch]

Yeah, hadn't noticed or seen anyone in clan mention they move into your backroom and came back to a jumpscare of someone in that little nook while I bullet jumped towards the foundry (kind of wish she laid in the couch like she does in hollvania though, feels like she should)

[gusty stirrup]

...

i hate how much i love this game, god damnit 🙂

they def cooked with this update

[twilit pollen]

questionne
i have heard talk of being able to start dates through the chat system rather than by talking to teh characters directly. is this true?

[supple dagger]

From what I am aware, I have only seen dialogue for 3 of them like this
Amir and Aoi I believe you can ask to date through messages, or atleast Aoi tried to date you first, and I think with Lettie if you do well you can have 2 convos
One expressing feelings and then she thinks about it, the second then being yes or no, but I went to them directly so I cannot entirely confirm this

[balmy storm]

Yes, thats how I got with Lettie

I def think I’m gonna stick with Lettie just cause of how it went down with her
It was beautiful

[frigid canopy]

Aoi! Yeah, definitely more my style

[rugged dragon]

Can someone help me out here ? I already messed up the last conversation with her and dont want to mess this up, I want to romance her

[frigid canopy]

The bottom one. "You haven't answered the question"

[rugged dragon]

Thank you

[wild wind]

Note that all it does is make Eleanor end the conversation

[frigid canopy]

Always keep in mind with Ella that she wants long, deep conversations, so anything that makes her think or continue talking is a plus, and be nice to her, and don't be mean to Arthur, she hates that

[tiny dove]

Does anything actually happen after you max Hex Standing? The whole time they implied some get together, but I am not actually seeing anything (Yes I fixed the time loop or whatever)

[frigid canopy]

I don't believe so. I'm at rank five and nothing happened

[wild wind]

Nope

[tiny dove]

That is insanely lame

[wild wind]

Oh wait Hex max rank? Adds randos to the mall, lets you pick your post-mission music

So yeah just flavor stuff. Also you can date Lettie, Arthur and Eleanor at rank 5

[frigid canopy]

It's not fully done yet, 1999 will almost definitely have more content coming post-Coda(I think that's how it's spelled?)

[tiny dove]

Ah okay. But there isn't an actual like pizza party cutscene I missed right?

[amber terrace]

Uhhhhhh I logged onto the Pom-2 today and I don’t have any chats with Lettie or Amir????

[zenith jacinth]

That is specifically the wrong option

[amber terrace]

Like am I krill issue?

[balmy storm]

Civilians show up

[frigid canopy]

wym? she liked it when I said it. She was surprised when I "put aside personal morals"

[zenith jacinth]

For me she just ended the convo instantly

I think you're getting it confused with a previous option in that same convo

[frigid canopy]

She's not the one to end the convo, but it doesn't end badly compared to what could happen

I believe there's a better option than what I picked

[zenith jacinth]

The hex are always the ones who end the convo

Unless I'm misremembering it the "you haven't answered the question" has your drifter send one follow up message and then el goes offline

[frigid canopy]

Yeah, that's what happens. I said a message that may have beena choice, I don't remember, and then I say "You can't expect me to answer that if you don't know the answer either"

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah that's not a good option

[subtle night]

Yeah I did that and I feel sorry about it like I wanna say but I wanna see your thought process but you win some you lose some

[amber terrace]

Uhhh… I just had chats with all the Hex that seem pretty “end of the road”-y, where they thanked me for being around and all that. Does this mean that I can’t chat up any of the Hex over AOL anymore? I had a similar convo with Amir yesterday and I didn’t have any messages from him? With Lettie she moved in with me to the Backrooms because I have more rizz aura than even the rizzler himself

[astral jackal]

I
Need
More
Dialogues
Like
This

I hope that DE won't forget about these guys in the future
I want them to be among the main characters in Man in the wall saga

[amber terrace]

I mean I hope that they show up later, because if all this work I put into chit chat yapping with the Hex, pestering people about how to rizz up Lettie, and trying to figure out what gifts to get them doesn’t have later ramifications, I’m gonna be seven sorts of babyrage

[frigid canopy]

I'm really hoping that u can call them in to fight like the On-call crew thing. Or u can see them in ur Orbiter and Hideout and not just the Backroom

[astral jackal]

Would be interesting to watch The Hex getting used to the origin system

[amber terrace]

Oh golly bringing Lettie onto the Orbiter and watching as she has the system’s worst case of culture shock would be very entertaining

Or even worse, showing Lettie Kahl and Chipper, oooh she’d have a field day with the Solaris

[frigid canopy]

Especially if ur max rank with the Solaris... she'd flip and have a nervous breakdown lol

[amber terrace]

I don’t know who would have a weirder time with the Solaris, Amir or Lettie

[frigid canopy]

Amir would definitely be far more curious and driven to learn about them and how they work. Lettie would just be terrified

[amber terrace]

Amir would be head over heels for the transhumanism factor of Solaris and completely glide over the debt bond slavery, while Lettie would probably be either Ticker’s worst nightmare or Ticker’s sweetest dream

[astral jackal]

Wait a sec
Can Eleanor chat with Umbra?

[frigid canopy]

Cuz they're both sassy? Prolly the latter lol

[gusty stirrup]

Aoi: "we are lucky the sofa is strong"

WHAT

[amber terrace]

Oh, no, because Lettie would try to figure out Solaris anatomy to at least find something to help them and Ticker would have an aneurysm trying to figure out what Lettie was trying to do

[frigid canopy]

yeahhhh

she's a sleeper freak. I like those a lot lol

[gusty stirrup]

alright i admit i was thinking about... something else

but fair enough, i know what it is to sleep and keep moving without any control

[frigid canopy]

Example from her: "There's a lot of gold in here... I could maybe make some handcuffs? giggle"
Like, damn girl lol

[gusty stirrup]

LMAO WHAT

oh so she is also masochist, Jesus

[frigid canopy]

or, she's gonna put them on u

[gusty stirrup]

... Fair enough

holy crap i'm i a bottom?

[astral jackal]

When it comes to girls in this update
Drifter is always the bottom

[gusty stirrup]

FOR REAL

[amber terrace]

<hasn’t heard much of Lettie’s dialogue since she moved in> I genuinely hope she isn’t as desperately freaky as some of the other Hex lines I’ve seen, like she says she’s sore a lot and the freakiest thing I’ve heard from her is that I have the option of joining her in the bath

[frigid canopy]

I think most of the Hex are switches, with the exception of Lettie, who is just straight dom

[rain otter]

She's more a switch than bottom.

[rain otter]

Not true.

She asks both to be hurt and to hurt.

[frigid canopy]

ah, see I didn't hear that cuz I'm guessing she's gotta move in for that to come up

[rain otter]

She also says it in the chat.

[rain otter]

It's not really that bad or freaky.

Some of it is really sweet.

[astral jackal]

I wonder if new protoframes will join the hex

I want even more chats!

[frigid canopy]

Let definitely has really sweet lines, but some real freaky ones, too lol

[astral jackal]

And I want Russian Harrow

[rain otter]

Just also it's like "hey we should do something later maybe take turns hurting" and stuff like that.

Its not really that wild.

[amber terrace]

Yeah, I know Lettie’s not freaky, hence the freakiest thing being offering to share a bath. It’s a bit suggestive but that’s about as far as it goes

[rain otter]

She also talks about her rats a bunch.

[gusty stirrup]

Eleanor is freaky as f

Aoi is freaky sometimes

[rain otter]

Oh yeah the like

[gusty stirrup]

and i'm going to build a floof room for her

[amber terrace]

She threatened to turn my Kalymos look alike kavat into a leather jacket if it ate one of her mice

[rain otter]

"well we can't hear them and they can't hear us"

[astral jackal]

I don't get it, can protoframes take off their battle gear or do they take shower and have S E G G S in it?

[frigid canopy]

I'd imagine it's like clothing and they don't have a carapace like the Infested do

[gusty stirrup]

or maybe they are naked all the time except for the cloths they use

[amber terrace]

I would prefer to not have to go through the mental gymnastics to figure that one out

[rain otter]

They can somehow.

[amber terrace]

[rain otter]

Quincy says it.

Like somehow they can still get down.

We don't know how.

[rain otter]

Lettie weridly feels the most naked cuz we can see her legs.

[amber terrace]

I don’t wanna know how, something something “we thought so much about whether we could, we forgot if we should” something something

[astral jackal]

Naaaah
We need to know everything

[frigid canopy]

The real question I want answered is if the white parts of Aoi's hair are real or if they're extensions, and the blue is her real hair

[gusty stirrup]

... i think no one wants to ask this but

[astral jackal]

Or she likes hair dye

[gusty stirrup]

if we reproduce...

do we get a jade?

like they get 2 aura mods?

[rain otter]

Why do we care?

[rain otter]

What?

[astral jackal]

Well, not really
Protoframes are not really warframes

[gusty stirrup]

becouse in my opinion jade has 2 aura mods becouse 1 is her and the other one is her baby.

if, hypotetically, one of them gets preg...
Do we get 2 aura mods?

[astral jackal]

I guess we'll get a human with frame abilities

[frigid canopy]

I'm curious, is all. Y'all over here wondering how they smash, I'm wondering what's a cosmetic mod and what's natural lol

[balmy storm]

They are literally partial warframes lol

[gusty stirrup]

also

[astral jackal]

But not fully

[balmy storm]

The two aura slots is unique to Jade

[balmy storm]

Partial Warframes

[gusty stirrup]

the baby will be 100% not warframe.
75% normal 25% warframe.
50% normal 50% warframe?

[gusty stirrup]

yeah but becouse of her baby maybe?

[astral jackal]

My bet is on 75% normal

[balmy storm]

Interesting theory

[rain otter]

Why do you care though? People can do what they want with their hair.

[oblique dirge]

the partial is mainly just their minds being intact, their bodies are pretty much entirely warframe except the heads

[balmy storm]

^^

[rain otter]

What?

[gusty stirrup]

I'm drunk becouse of christmas, if i ask anything wierd just like ignore me lmao

[balmy storm]

And in some cases other parts of them, like Aoi’s palms and Lettie’s calves

[rain otter]

Hey lettie has her normal legs. He's the only one though.

[astral jackal]

But they can take off the warframe suit, as Quincy said

[frigid canopy]

Unless the Technocyte made modifications to their actual DNA, the baby would be totally human

[balmy storm]

But they are warframes

[rain otter]

Or well yeah calfs and lowerm

[astral jackal]

They still have human bodies

[balmy storm]

No they can’t???
When did he say that? Source?

[rain otter]

All warframes used to be human Madmax.

[rain otter]

Quincy didn't say that he just said he could have sex somehow.

[balmy storm]

Thats what it does tho

[rain otter]

We don't know how.

[balmy storm]

Having sex =/= their new flesh can be removed

[rain otter]

Yep

I agree.

[astral jackal]

Oh, then I misunderstood

[balmy storm]

Lettie comments on pants and how thats not what she wears now basically

And she’s the most human visually

[gusty stirrup]

What have i done?

[oblique dirge]

they probably just store their genitals internally when not being used like many animals do already

[frigid canopy]

If it does, then yes, it'd be a hybrid. But if not, then a totally human child would be born.
If a bull loses a leg before procreating to make a calf, the calf isn't going to have a leg missing

[rain otter]

Nothing really.

[balmy storm]

It’s a hybrid

[astral jackal]

Well then
R34 is basicly right about protoframe anatomy

[gusty stirrup]

wait what, she flew around hollvania?

[astral jackal]

Good to know

[rain otter]

But this is a virus. Kids are born with the parents virus.

[frigid canopy]

Then yeah, it'd be a hybrid child. I'm not disagreeing lol

[rain otter]

This isn't a hybrid

Also idk if the Drifter can have a child

Like they are a void thing.

[frigid canopy]

'parently so. I'm curious what she what thinking bout tho

[balmy storm]

Still human

[rain otter]

Are they?

[balmy storm]

Just human+

[astral jackal]

Technocyte messes with your body big time, so... The kid will be infected, but not that bad, considering the Drifter part

[balmy storm]

Yes, we know the Tenno are human

[rain otter]

Idk Ducky.

[balmy storm]

I’ve been down this road too many times, the Tenno are still human :|

[astral jackal]

So
A powerful human, but still human

[gusty stirrup]

either she is asking we grab her.
or she wants to grab us

[balmy storm]

parahuman

The game literally tells us we are human

[rain otter]

The Holdfasts seem to say we are void things but sure.

Yeah.

[frigid canopy]

either way, I'm cool with it

[balmy storm]

They say we’re void constructs but not like them
The PC says we’re Parahuman iirc
We are human+void

[rain otter]

Fair.

[balmy storm]

Gifted with a piece of Wally
Still human.

[rain otter]

That sounds the most correct.

[real niche]

Lotus also says you're a child lemme find the thing

[astral jackal]

Also
I wanna hear the Hex comments on the Operator

[rain otter]

Still very odd.

[balmy storm]

That being said, we could be infertile

We don’t know for sure

[frigid canopy]

I don't think u can switch to ur op in the mall. It doesnt let me

[gusty stirrup]

Our s.o would probably either be:

you were sooooooo cute when you were younger!

Or

I'm I in a relationship with you too?

[frigid canopy]

well, ur a child...soooo

[rain otter]

You can't be the op in 1999. You can switch in the backroom cuz its a login and not the 1999 hub.

[astral jackal]

I mean in general
Like, if the get a story about The Hex and the Operator

[rain otter]

But you can't be op there cus like they are a child

We dont want child interacting with adult relationships.

[gusty stirrup]

What is the approximate age of drifter and operator?

[rain otter]

25 and 12

[gusty stirrup]

Holy crap have we been sleeping for 13 years since the fall of the orokin?

[frigid canopy]

yeah, we don't belong on a certain island...cuz were sane(mostly I hope) human beings

[real niche]

What?

[rain otter]

Well none of us Not that kind of insane.

[rain otter]

Bad joke I assume.

[gusty stirrup]

Hypothetically operator has been sleeping on lua after the orokin fall

[rain otter]

Also jtm I keep seeing ftm.

[oblique dirge]

the orokin fell thousands of years ago

[gusty stirrup]

Asking for real

[frigid canopy]

oh?

[rain otter]

Which is fine. I just keep seeing it in your name.

[real niche]

That's not a hypothetical, that just happened.
Drifter and Operator are (chronologically) the same age.

[gusty stirrup]

Ah k

[rain otter]

Thats it. Also I am around a bunch trans people of all kinds cuz I'm friends with a lot of lgbt+ peeps.

So It's a like thing I've seen in bios and stuff before

Its just funny to me.

[gusty stirrup]

I should go to sleep before I ask some stupid stuff

[frigid canopy]

I'm a dude lol, it's my initials cuz I'm dumb and un-creative when making usernames😂

[gusty stirrup]

Have a good night y'all

[rain otter]

I mean you would be anyway.

Female to male would be someone that is a dude probably. I can't say for 100% sure everyone is different with their identity but you know.

[oblique dirge]

operator spent their time after the fall of the orokin in cryosleep controling warframes in a dream like state, drifter spent that time in duviri wandering around and being executed on loop but time in funky enough that they physically only aged 10 or so years

[rain otter]

Well also just asleep not controlling warframes.

Like most tenno go fully to sleep after the fall.

[zenith jacinth]

You should make a long cringe username and wait for someone to shorten it, that's how I ended up with scrap

[rain otter]

And not just the second dream.

[frigid canopy]

What like, "wastaken" 9 thousand times?

[rain otter]

@oblique dirge like the tenno after the Orokin fall all go to proper cryosleep not just the second dream. Like lotus says we slept for generations. Variza says she was asleep for 1k years which is the best guess for how long the tenno where asleep.

[zenith jacinth]

Nah for example my name comes from a nickname some monster hunter friends gave me because the older games had a very limiting message letter cap. Full name was ScrappedM, which is already a shortened version of my intended name

[frigid canopy]

Ahhh, I have a friend who has like ten words at the end of his from our Raft days. "Metal Shark Bait Big Teddy Hunter his name"

Had to shorten it to "Big Teddy" after new ppl kept calling him the full thing😂

[zenith jacinth]

I decided to just keep scrap because the longer name made me want to travel back in time to stop myself from being so edgy

[frigid canopy]

Fair enough lol

[zenith jacinth]

Then the warframe name filter came along and though my name was literally crap

[frigid canopy]

as it does

[amber terrace]

Is this person good at lore?

I haven’t watched the video yet and I was curious if anyone had a bead on the guy

[real niche]

I have no idea but you don't need a YouTube video to explain the little there is on the Scaldra we have.

Weird military bad guys that follow Viktor's inane ramblings about cleaning Hollvania which is just a rouse to stroke his own ego in front of the Hex and everyone else.

[river gate]

finally got Arthur ||into the backroom||

[amber terrace]

Nice

I wonder how he’d get along with Umbra

Granted, one speaks standard English and the other can’t really talk, only pained howls that would make even Eleanor wince

[river gate]

id like to thing theyd spar or something to that effect

[amber terrace]

That would probably result in Arthur having to make an emergency visit with Lettie

Arthur and the Hex are proto frames, partial. Umbra is full send

[river gate]

yeahh Umbra would probably win everytime. i wonder what Umbra thinks whenever we switch to the gemini skin. 3 people in 1 body has to be terrible

[amber terrace]

Technically 4 ish depending on how you interpret the Second Dream’s sword break scene

[river gate]

those poor other 2 people having to listen to Arthur talk about me showering him down later

[amber terrace]

Y’know, speaking of showering people down, I wonder how or even if the Drifter washes their suits

[river gate]

also apparently Arthurs weapons are sentient

[amber terrace]

Floating pistol

[river gate]

good question, do they have like a washing system on the ship or do they just like throw them in the shower with soap and pray it cleans?

[river gate]

they spin whenever he spins his sword. truly peak

[amber terrace]

Must be that Tenno void devilry

Actually, something that’s been on my mind, how do the Hex use their Warframe abilities? Like do they have a connection to the Void? Or is it rather Helminth devilry giving them those shiny powers

[river gate]

hmm, id assume the void but considering Helminth can change our warframes abilities to other warframes abilities i wouldnt be surprised if Helminth can just give half frame people powers

[balmy storm]

Eh, so so
If its who I’m remembering me and some others in the comments told them to check out the archives cause they had inaccuracies and last I saw they still had some
Take loretubers with a grain of salt.

[tepid meteor]

Idk where else to talk about this but the mirror in the backrooms is glitched, it’ll put you with the drifter body but the operator presets and there’s no way (I’ve found) to fix it

[steep totem]

For some reason, I'm now seeing a floor covered in laundry, with Domestik Drones rolling over them
(carrion drone locked in Helminth room for the time being)

[amber terrace]

So while I have an amount of y’all here, this most recent reset when I logged onto the Pom-2, I only had messages from Arthur, Eleanor, Aoi, and Quincy, I didn’t have any messages from Lettie or Amir. The reset before Lettie moved in and Amir thanked me for improving stuff around the mall. The messages this reset were in a similar tone of Amir’s from prior reset

What I’m trying to say is, did I “complete” the chemistry system? All of the Hex are ‘Best Friends’ with the only exception being Lettie, who’s ‘Loved’

[river gate]

from the seems of it when you get "Loved" and "Best friends" they stop sending messages. im hoping this is a bug or the the very least they change it after the Holidays

[river gate]

poor carrion drone, cannot help clean the clothes because theyd jus get dirty after it tries. reminds me of that one line from Ordis about cleaning the ship

[amber terrace]

Highkey part of me wants to make a laundry day look for the Drifter made of a bunch of random suit pieces with default colors

Like no rhythm, no synergy, just straight chaos

[amber terrace]

Tomorrow, tomorrow I’m gonna get up at an appropriate time for the sleep cycle after Christmas and I’m gonna make the laundry day look and see if I can’t post it in the #fashion-frame chat

[lilac umbra]

I just realized that Arthur and I share a birthday

Makes me oddly happy lol

[river gate]

i only share the birth month. November is just too good

[tight pagoda]

It seems intentional, because a lot of these messages read like final “thank you” messages.

Like the letters you get in the Epilogue of Baldur’s Gate 3

“Ah when you came into my life I hated you and couldn’t trust you, but then you saved me from such and such, thank you for helping me find myself, I’m finally happy! So, forever yours, whatstheirface”

[north meteor]

Da hex members in my crib????!?!?

Entrati done gave em access to the backrooms

[wild wind]

they always had it, they just respect it as your space

[celest forge]

best friend with all the hex
but i have to gain more chimestry to pass to "loved" with aoi ?

[solemn cloud]

The athletic set would work so well for laundry day

[river gate]

i do hope they change it, theres soo many chats i didnt get to see but i dont wanna reset in Jan

[river gate]

just gotta wait til tomorrow if youre best friends rank with Aoi and dating her.

[north meteor]

Aoi in da joint, what will she do?

[compact haven]

Felonies

[celest forge]

Question, im best friends with the hex, can i still have conversation with them ?

[river gate]

after you get “Best Friends” or “Loved” they will no longer send messages

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-darth-vader-star-wars-scream-gif-16035270

i love the message 😢

[river gate]

same, i was so sad to find that out

[celest forge]

I hope they will fix that

[river gate]

yeah i also hope they change it, seems weird for em to just stop after all that

[celest forge]

Because i think i have to learn new thing about them

Like : i never talk with Arthur about cooking x)

[nova harness]

They probably will change it eventually but I think they made it that way so you have a reason to reset chemistry

[velvet marsh]

Does Cut Through play during the 1999 quest? I just listenet to it on Spotify but can't remember it

[river gate]

yeah there was so much i never got to talk about

[celest forge]

I dont know for the music, but indeed i cut through my way

[river gate]

thats fair. me personally i wouldnt be able to reset all the chemistry, especially now that i have Arthur as my romance partner but like you said they probably made it so you wouldnt get every chat so you have a true reason to reset.

[south scarab]

at what level of chemstry do i need to be with each hex to date them? amir aoi and quincy seem to have lower requirements than the other 3, or thats just the fact that i fumbled a lot of gifts for lettie arthur and eleanor?

[nova harness]

After reaching "Trusted" with Aoi, Amir or Quincy, or "Close" with Arthur, Leticia, or Eleanor, the option to "Ask to date" will appear when speaking to the members in the Höllvania Central Mall.

[south scarab]

oh ok

[torpid hollow]

Man i just finish Amir venting about his nightmare. Man I just wanna give him a hug

That boy was soo scare man i just want to give him a cookie for getting through all of that

[solar monolith]

So, what happened to the other Zariman orphans in Drifter's timeline?

They died out since Drifter didn't made the deal with Wally?

[teal spear]

No, someone survived anyway (my Drifter said that when I was talking about Duviri)

[obtuse gyro]

they get rescued they all do, just not drifter

[solar monolith]

Why not Drifter included?

Cause he got isekaid into Duviri?

[obtuse gyro]

because that was the deal

[nova harness]

No, they were saved

[obtuse gyro]

29. You wouldn't welch on a deal, would you?

A. CORRUPT FILE DETECTED

B. I saved them. All of them. Never said I'd save you.

Man in the Wall: "Time's up, kiddo.** I can save them, all of them**. (voice distorted) But you have to want it. (normal voice) [gasp] Let's say we shake on it.

[woven gate]

As someone who quit Warframe a few years ago and came back a bit before Koumei the Hex chats have been a great refresher on details I forgot or never learned. 10/10 will keep enjoying this patch and beyond

[gleaming hound]

im a little confused with how the KIM system works here because, despite having been able to date aoi since trusted (which i have been doing), i just got her to "best friends" instead of "loved"??? i thought the requirement for loved was just dating them and getting them to the same level as best friends

[nova harness]

Wait for reset and it becomes loved

Daily reset btw

[gleaming hound]

oh cool okay!!! thank you i thought id done something wrong <3

[nova harness]

Nah DE count them as both the same rank and separate

[gleaming hound]

oh ya, i saw that on the wiki which was why i was confused XD thank you anyways thats nice to know <3

[north meteor]

What's rell doing in höllvania anyways

[nova harness]

He's not in Hollvania

[sacred flint]

Anyone else felt like the beginning of the hex quest was weird? Like it was kinda rushing? Idk the beginning felt odd for some reason

[nova harness]

Why do you feel it was rushed

[sacred flint]

Idk just the way the quest was going from one mission almost immediately to the next. Also the dialogues being not so long

Idk maybe it was cause we already saw most of the beginning in the demo but yea idk

[real niche]

There's also some setup done with Whispers and Lotus Eaters

[sacred flint]

Idk the setup was weird to me. I wonder what they’ll do next with the echo’s

Maybe also cause they made wally less powerful? They made Wally just this person that can’t do anything while the prev quest Wally was literally an eldritch being corrupting everything. The way the setting of the murmur world looked was so out of this world and now with 1999 they reduced Wally to this trapped entity in a simple loop why can be killed “supposedly” with a nuke?
We had someone, I think bau, explain this really cool theory of the personality of Wally and now they made it just talk in a normal way talking about it’s motives simply being world domination.

It could just be me

[oblique dirge]

the game never said anything about wally being trapped, or being killed by the nuke, or wanting world domination

[real niche]

He wasn't killed, Albrecht needed the nuke to go off to escape Wally again.

[subtle night]

And he made everything worse yeah we don't help that but he's the one that started it now he either finishes it or we play the way to long game

[north meteor]

Seems like the game wants to push a narrative that you gotta choose between albrecht and wally, pick a side, yk, wonder if there's a song for that

[real niche]

Were you also someone who said that we should've killed Lotus when she was brainhacked before TNW dropped

[north meteor]

Nope

[real niche]

Crazy

[north meteor]

Elaborate

[oblique dirge]

not really? if anything 1999 has been pretty insistent on both wally and albrecht being antagonists in their own ways

[thick jolt]

And the kim messages have really insisted on us being against wally

[real niche]

I don't see any reason why we'd want to side with Wally when the Drifter is very much clearly against everything Wally is doing.

[north meteor]

Well more or less from what I've chatted up with Eleanor it seems like we wanna pacify wally

Cause the whole child playing with new emotions thing

Albrecht wants your help, Wally wants your help, pick a side, but I'm pretty sure this is where the drifter says nah ima do my own thing

[real niche]

Did you get the "kid bashing toys together" thing, because Drifter made it clear that they really don't want to be the "toys" in this situation, since that's what most of the people in the system are to Wally.

We deal with Wally, then we deal with Albrecht. Wally is the bigger problem right now.

[thick jolt]

chosen methods aside albrecht is also looking for a way to deal with wally

Our interests only align with albrecht not wally

[north meteor]

Yeah I know that

[fresh edge]

I still hate him so so much

Hope he dies slow ngl

Wally is real bad too, but my personal hatred for Albrecht is consuming

Animal abuse was enough, the rest of his crimes are whatever

[north meteor]

Hope we get to kill both at some point in an epic battle

[balmy storm]

Albrecht’s a comprehensible evil
Wally is an incomprehensible evil
Both are evil and both must be stopped
Albrecht clearly is going too far at times because he’s afraid
Wally’s just Wally

[nova harness]

Plot twist there's no good guys in Warframe and everyone is evil in their own way

[balmy storm]

We do kill a lot of people…

[real niche]

A lot of bad people

:)

[rain otter]

Eleanor and the hex also hate Wally. He literally like captures us and wants us to let all the hex die.

[rain otter]

I don't think that's true at all. You've read too much warhammer
.

[north meteor]

Plot twist it was all made up in your head during a coma

[nova harness]

I've never played or bothered with Warhammer lol

[rain otter]

Fair.

I just don't think the "there's no good guy it's grey" doesn't apply here.

[nova harness]

All I know is there's this Emperor guy in it and a bunch of guys with big suits

[rain otter]

We help good people. Specific pockets and factions of them.

[nova harness]

I guess most Holdfasts didn't do anything wrong

[robust frost]

When you finish a bounty for a character and it doesnt show "+Chemistry" for them... does that mean theyre capped out for the day?

[nova harness]

Yes

You can only get Chemistry through bounty KIM and Gifting once a day

[winter seal]

Steel Meridian, Perrin Sequence, Vox Solaris generally fit the bill as good guys

[nova harness]

Minus the hit squads they send against you for not being with them

[oblique dirge]

perrin sequence did have that weird bit in the glast gambit where they were like “Yeah, forcing people into lifelong debt is bad, but giving people charity is also just as bad!” like theyre better space capitalists, but not by much

[nova harness]

I’d say all of them have done something bad

Forced or not

[rain otter]

I mean they all died trying to help the kids

and even what Calevro did he says he did it to protect the kids.

[nova harness]

One of them sabotaged the biome thing just for spite

[rain otter]

expect yonta

[rain otter]

Not spite

she wanted them to not have to do the jump.

she didn't think people would starve she thought the orokin would call off the expidtion.

[nova harness]

Not thinking people would starve doesn’t really make it any better

[rain otter]

SHE WANT EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO GO HOME.

[nova harness]

Noble intentions bad idea

Still wasn’t a good thing to do

[compact haven]

The road to hell is paved in good intentions

[rain otter]

that's What all of the holdfasts did

[nova harness]

Did Yonta do anything wrong other than bad calculation?

[rain otter]

but her calculation was wrong.

that's like the whole thing.

[nova harness]

Can’t think of anything wrong Quinn did

[rain otter]

he glassed people

that desented.

[nova harness]

He had the power to did he actually use it though

[rain otter]

yes.

[supple dagger]

It's actively one of his regrets and he mentions it in voice lines often

[nova harness]

I wonder if cavelero started attacking people

[rain otter]

Cavelero died by using explosives on the mad adults.

[supple dagger]

Bro was demoman from TF2 for a minute

[amber terrace]

Cavalero was responsible for rounding up dissenters for Quinn to eventually glass, if I’m interpreting the Holdfast rank up lines correctly

[supple dagger]

KaBoom?
Yes Rico, Kaboom.

[zenith jacinth]

It think it was a joke

[zenith jacinth]

That was his job, yes, but he often disobeyed and tried to help people

[nova harness]

It was

[autumn turret]

im not sure which i want to pick for this eleanor interaction
|| you and lettie both do that, you know. you forget to say "hello"||
or
||Most ppeople would start with "hello"||
there is no option to just reply to what they said this time, just ignore as the third option

[thick jolt]

Id go with the second

I feel like eleanor enjoys the chats because its her one time to talk one on one, so i wouldnt bring others into it i guess

Like dont make it about others

[autumn turret]

makes sense

[rain otter]

top

[frigid canopy]

The latter is far less rude

[rain otter]

I picked top

it's fine.

[autumn turret]

i like how drifter calls operator "the kid"

[rain otter]

yee

[amber terrace]

So like when I walk past Lettie in the Backrooms and she says the “little boys” are no longer fighting, is she referring to Amir and Quincy?

[thick jolt]

Or the rats

She has 4 of them iirc

[amber terrace]

Is this in reference to Lettie’s paranoia, which was first referenced in Albrecht’s dossiers

[supple dagger]

I mean it could be? I don't really see what else it could refer to

[heavy crypt]

The way people tend to refer to their depression/intrusive thoughts as brain worms, she refers to hers as spiders

[supple dagger]

I always feel so bad for Lettie
I mean her whole life has been a rollercoaster of death and pain, even her own mother thought she'd die alone
Then your life gets turned upside down, made into a protoframe and expected to protect what is left of Hollvania with a rag tag group of 6 of which before we arrived there was huge distrust and fragmenting.
I do not blame her for having her own spiders that's for sure

[amber terrace]

I can sympathize with Lettie. When I was in a really rough time and I thought that everyone was out to get me, my mind went to some pretty dark places. If only I could offer Lettie comfort like how we offer the Cavia comfort

[rain otter]

I say Mind bees.

[astral jackal]

Oh no... The dialogues... They are finite!

[supple dagger]

This is why I think she's the best for me in-game
I relate to her a lot and understand quite a bit about what she's been through personally
It's why I'm ditching Eleanor for Lettie next loop

[supple dagger]

That's what I get for hitting rank 5 as quick as I did and maxing all the chemistry

[amber terrace]

Wait, so we both sympathize with Lettie and really don’t like Eleanor? BESTIES!!

https://tenor.com/view/wholesome-mista-and-trish-mista-trish-jojos-jojos-pt5-gif-19450831

[supple dagger]

There's still variations of the dialogue like how I got the Quincy in shorts joke from Ele in the convo about love, whereas someone else got Amir instead of Quincy in that dialogue

[astral jackal]

They didn't even add a reaction for dating Eleanor...

[supple dagger]

I don't hate or dislike Eleanor
It's just that to me

I MUCH prefer Lettie

Oh and uh
If you get her spicy dialogue

Good lord

[zenith jacinth]

I like all of the hex except lettie, my opinion on her is neutral

[prime lantern]

Lettie doesn't have a tongue that she can do ungodly things with Eleanor does case closed

[supple dagger]

Switching from Tongue Prime to Latina Prime next loop like:

[astral jackal]

You just have to hear what Eleanor has to say
Boy does she have a rich fantasy

[supple dagger]

Ironically the Devs knew us enough since she has a dialogue where she actually mentions "nuh uh, youre just here for my tongue lmao"

[zenith jacinth]

Excellent point

[supple dagger]

I mean I've heard all her dialogue plus all backroom dialogue

[zenith jacinth]

My preferences made me want to go for el, but I got stuck on aoi's personality. I like people like her

[supple dagger]

Still prefer Lettie's but maybe that's just because of the fact that it's more... Passionate I guess?

Aoi is kinda like.. a sibling in a way, she gives me sibling energy

[frigid canopy]

Well, Merry late Christmas to me, I guess!

[supple dagger]

Aoi really said "im about to bend your metal rod, get over here now"

[zenith jacinth]

Friendly, considerate, absolutely ready to fight to defend people she cares about

[frigid canopy]

😉

[supple dagger]

Well, Warframe has a mature rating for a reason

[zenith jacinth]

I need someone like that irl

[supple dagger]

Still no weirder than finding out Warframes are entirely anatomically accurate.. just not designed that way in game because the Devs don't want it to be well .. you know

I mean hell, the 1999 dialogues make it obvious

They can't still do it

[frigid canopy]

They do still wear clothes, so the Technocyte didn't replace their clothing from what I see

[astral jackal]

Tbh
I wish there was a way to cure them to the extent where they can "summon" warframe form

[zenith jacinth]

They wear clothes over the frame body

[frigid canopy]

Well anyway, I maxed out my chemistry w the Hex, no more AOL messages...sadge

[supple dagger]

Eleanor is the only one close enough to a Warframe that with her mind powers can do a similar thing to transference which is kinda neat

[astral jackal]

Yeah...

[supple dagger]

Obviously not the same, but closest she has

[zenith jacinth]

I think being frozen in the partially transformed state is unpleasant enough, they don't need to go through the agonizing process repeatedly

[frigid canopy]

I wanted to sort out Lettie and Ella's beef...it never came up

[astral jackal]

Same

[supple dagger]

Yeah looking at Aois fingers that must have hurt, the metal is FUSED to her skin, same with Lettie, looks so itchy and uncomfortable

[astral jackal]

Nah, I mean like in prototype, where they can switch forms easily

[zenith jacinth]

Not just fused to it, it's basically made out of it

[supple dagger]

Yeah... Amirs convo on his initial transformation is haunting

[zenith jacinth]

Technocyte reconstructs its victims

[supple dagger]

No wonder he has severe anxiety and essentially PTSD, my poor baby Amir

[astral jackal]

There was a conversation about that?

[zenith jacinth]

I wonder how many of the noises modern infested make are just horribly distorted sounds of pain from the original bodies

[frigid canopy]

That's the opener for getting Quincy to like Amir, and Amir to feel wanted and liked in the Hec

[supple dagger]

Yeah, he mentioned how it felt like there was bugs under his skin, he wanted to scratch it all away, he lost control, and when he came back to, all he saw were the charred corpses of the scladra and those around him, blacked skin and empty sockets. Burning meat. And the scars he gave Arthur during Arthur hugging him the whole time..

[astral jackal]

For me they kinda just talked like adults and that's it

[supple dagger]

Was..
Sad as hell

He had constant nightmares after that

Nightmares of him killing Arthur and Arthur's dead corpse shouting it was Amirs fault
Poor guy wasn't even a soldier

Just an intern at the reactor

[zenith jacinth]

I feel bad for amir, really no wonder that he was always requesting brain hugs from el during the relay times

[astral jackal]

Welp
Time to beat the living void out of Entrati

[supple dagger]

I damn near cried when he told me that story

[amber terrace]

I’m glad that at least^ Arthur, Quincy, and Aoi play nice with Amir
^I don’t know if Eleanor or Lettie have AOL dialogue about Amir

[zenith jacinth]

But don't kill him, that's too nice

[supple dagger]

Thought that if he was actually better, he'd be a hero
Luckily Aoi helped him when they ran their own op and he saved many MANY lives and realised he could do good

[zenith jacinth]

Glass albrecht?

[astral jackal]

Make him a protoframe

[zenith jacinth]

We can put him in a cell with nihil

[frigid canopy]

Nah, leave the final shot to Lettie, that's what she wants. At least that's what I got told by her, anyway

[supple dagger]

Ele worries about him, makes sure to check on him constantly and help him regulate himself to manage his dopamine, brain activity and what not to remain focussed and away from thinking all the bad thoughts

Lettie worries about him, looks at him like a kid in an endearing way

[zenith jacinth]

She's not thinking ahead far enough

[astral jackal]

El is the best

[supple dagger]

No one there dislikes Amir, I fact it's the opposite, I'd say he's the most liked by everyone

And his romance is adorable

He calls you baby cakes lmao and says the only one that's allowed inside him (as a Warframe) is you lol

[astral jackal]

Also, it's kinda funny how Entrati talks about love and all that
And then makes protoframes

[supple dagger]

Such a goofy goober

[frigid canopy]

He reminds me wayy too much of my younger self lol. Nerdy and awkward af

[supple dagger]

Orokin arrogance, but in the end he was still right about it all and that makes him easy to hate but also really complex as a character

He's clearly doing it for the good of all, but his ways are so dangerous and cryptic

[amber terrace]

Heaven forbid Lettie ever breaks things off with me, I’m running straight to Amir. He’s my goofiest little gooby wooby

[supple dagger]

The living proverbs of "to confuse your enemies you must first confuse yourself lmao "

[astral jackal]

Yeah, well
Where are the orokin now?

[supple dagger]

Well, dead, save for the entrati family on Deimos and Albrecht himself

[rain otter]

dead

we killed them.

[supple dagger]

I guess Nihil counts as technically alive, he's just in the glass container thing

[rain otter]

we even killed Son's wife to be.

We even killed Teshins something.

Wife daugther something.

[astral jackal]

The Entrati family are chill
But God DAMN Albrecht needs to just explain his mind games and stop doing the creepy stuff behind everyone's back

[rain otter]

@astral jackal do you know about the night of naga drums?

[supple dagger]

To be fair, he's been broken since the seriglass bell incident

He doesn't even know if what he is doing will make change

[frigid canopy]

Which makes me think it's not really him. His twin made it out, and the real Albrecht is trapped in the Murmur dimension

[astral jackal]

... No?

[amber terrace]

I know at least Lettie has dialogue about the Cavia, I wonder how the Hex would react to seeing and talking with the Cavia. Like seeing an overgrown fish that sounds eerily similar to Viktor(they have the same VA), a deer thing that’s about as ready to kill Albrecht as the rest of the Hex, a bird that’s way too happy given its circumstances

[supple dagger]

And even though he shot us, he knew we needed time for our heart to grow, to save the hex

[zenith jacinth]

Albrecht is acting out of fear and desperation

[zenith jacinth]

Play octavia quest

[supple dagger]

No, that was Albrecht, the original, hell even the MITW stole him again during the quest, was after him the whole time, he thought he was the fake, but seeing as they REALLY want him, he's definitely the real Albrecht

[astral jackal]

I played it... A long while ago, when I still had the old operator

[wintry rampart]

He’s right, he’s doing this for the “greater good” but still deserves a punch in the face after all’s done

[supple dagger]

Otherwise the indifference wouldn't have used Rusalka to get to him

[astral jackal]

Drop kick at least

[rain otter]

it was what the tenno did before they all went to Sleep for 1000 years. They Defeated teh Sentients and their was a giant celebration ceremony across the system where the orokin where all in attendance. They did 12 beats of the naga drums to signfy victory and on the 11th all the tenno killed all the orokin.

[zenith jacinth]

Replay it, the naga drums are important lore

[rain otter]

I mean also just stalkers codex entry

says it too.

[frigid canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-tv-gif-15121325

[zenith jacinth]

True but hearing hunhow talk about it is much cooler

[rain otter]

sure.

[supple dagger]

I feel like Hunhow will turn himself around and help us entirely

[astral jackal]

Oh damn
Deserved

[supple dagger]

He's basically just angry sentient grandpa now

[rain otter]

he kinda has started too but yea.

[zenith jacinth]

He already has

[amber terrace]

I could take Hunhow 😏

[supple dagger]

Key word: entirely

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[supple dagger]

He helped us with jade, but that's more so because of how he felt about her and him, not so much us

The day he actually rises out and actually does something more or less super direct, then sure, he will have by that point

This is simply the beginning

[zenith jacinth]

He gave us the ability to rebuild jade for no reason except to help us

[rain otter]

but yeah 99% of orokin died that day the others in the days after except a small few. Even Son's wife to be died at the night of the naga drums.

[astral jackal]

Talking about "him"
I wanna know the Hex reaction to the events of Jade Shadows

[zenith jacinth]

He can't move, he's done as much as he can

[supple dagger]

If the hex found out about Jade, they'd lose their minds

[obtuse gyro]

Grandpa got arthritis

[supple dagger]

Doesn't mean he cannot be helped out of Uranus later though, atleast in theory

[obtuse gyro]

And so he remains, the great and terrible hunhow

[zenith jacinth]

And then he'll be drifting about in space. Great progress

[obtuse gyro]

Exact same vibes as "I am, unfortunately, the hero of ages"

[amber terrace]

If DE were to ever give Hunhow a humanoid form similar to Lotus, I’d be unstoppable

[supple dagger]

More progress than being stuck on planet rotting for eternity

[astral jackal]

Hm
Hunhow living as a human?

[zenith jacinth]

I like that he hesitates before the "and terrible" in the jade mail

[supple dagger]

Bro would have the longest beard frfr

[zenith jacinth]

More vulnerable

[rain otter]

lotus is a mimic

i feel like that's different.

[amber terrace]

If DE were to ever do that Lettie and Hildryn would have serious competition

[astral jackal]

That's some Akuma from street fighter 6 vibes
Just a chill monster that sells fruit

[supple dagger]

The boss when you fight them Vs the boss when you unlock them as a skin

[zenith jacinth]

You seem to have a very strong bias. Literally

[rain otter]

Lotus looks like a human cuz she's a mimic chat.

[astral jackal]

Naaaaah, Hildryn can't be beaten

[supple dagger]

Nah because I know damn well people were fiending for Eidolon Lotus out there

[amber terrace]

Truuuuuuuu

[zenith jacinth]

Muscle women are overrated

[astral jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/emesis-blue-tf2-team-fortress-2-medic-ludwig-gif-12088321860580211265

[supple dagger]

I like Hildryns design but I feel her gameplay is pretty boring unfortunately

Cool to fashion, boring to use

[amber terrace]

I have a serious amount of bias given Hildryn is, by far, my most played frame, she’s my favorite frame of all time. I also can see where you’re coming from. You can only solo Netracells being entirely in the air raining hellfire down on enemies so many times before it becomes a chore

[supple dagger]

Real

But that applies to a lot of frames I guess?

It's why I play support so much now
I can take a back seat and let others do their thing whilst I inevitably help them and stop them dying

Hence, as simple as she is, I do enjoy trinity

[astral jackal]

I main Kulervo (red crits go brrrrr) and Harrow (GIVE ME RUSSIAN PROTO HARROW, DE!)

[amber terrace]

I solo Netracells with Hildryn where during the kill enemies phase, I try to remain in Hildryn’s 4 as long as possible

[supple dagger]

Mmm champions blessing with massive shield

350% crit extra on weapons go brr

I get rewarded for being a teammate? Say less

I'll heal you real quick and just give everyone energy, and I get monstrous crit

Neuron activation

[zenith jacinth]

I feel like harrow would be more like a typical crusader rather than a russian

[astral jackal]

Make him an orthodox priest

[zenith jacinth]

Which is exactly why I don't main any specific frames

[amber terrace]

Hildryn would either be a better Zarya(Big Lady with Big laser cannon) or aggressively Scandinavian(namesake)

[zenith jacinth]

Latter is more likely considering her name and all

[supple dagger]

I can't not have a main, all my time mostly went into Garuda, still my most played frame and beating that percent will take eons
But I'm tired of feeling like I'm doing all the work and competing with other players who don't like it when you kill things fast

As just prefer to be useful and stop everyone dying on EDA every 5 minutes 💀

[zenith jacinth]

My most used frame is kullervo, but I haven't used him in ages

[astral jackal]

I wonder how proto rhino will look like

[supple dagger]

Hear me out:
Proto Grendel would be funny if it were possible

[zenith jacinth]

I jump between my large collection of frames based on what I think would be nice to use again at the time

[astral jackal]

I have a lot of frames
But only a couple of them have... Well, anything. I keep telling myself that I need to forma them, but it takes SO long that I just give up

[supple dagger]

Dang, no more convos, maxed out chemistry

I need my lore and dopamine

[amber terrace]

What’s left of my brain is too small to be able to bounce between a laundry list of frames, so to accentuate the problem, I minmaxed Hildryn to be at least usable in like 99% of content in the game

[astral jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-17846376318791889140

[supple dagger]

Real, i went for a main because there's too much choice
To a point my brain fries itself and it makes me irritated when I don't know what to use

[zenith jacinth]

Skill issue, I have at least a dozen frames and all of them function as much as I need them to

[amber terrace]

True and realpilled

[zenith jacinth]

Instead of perpetuating your problem, force yourself out of your comfort zone

I max out all frames I make outside of onslaught just so I have time to get used to the abilities

[amber terrace]

I tried that when I tried to optimize Qorvex, I used to use Styanax and Lavos a solid amount, and I’ve done an amount of work with Rhino Prime and Mesa Prime

[supple dagger]

I've already gone through all that
And there's only I think 4 frames I actively use
Nyx, Garuda, Trinity and Mag

I think that's actually it

[astral jackal]

I'm still trying to figure out what to do with Cytrine

[zenith jacinth]

That often results in me keeping frames that I want to subsume, which is why I'm struggling with frame slots

[supple dagger]

I understand there are stronger frames, but I like my looks too
If I can't enjoy the frame I'm looking at it's not as fun to play, I need it to be as visually pleasing as it is playstyle wise

[astral jackal]

Or was it Citrine?
I forgot her name in English

[supple dagger]

Citrine

[astral jackal]

Thanks

[zenith jacinth]

Ash, caliban, cyte, lavos, kullervo, nyx, styanax, qorvex, gauss, harrow, voruna, excal, limbo, kullervo

[supple dagger]

Like yeah, strong frame, but fashion wise limited due to clipping and various factors that just make her not the best to look at on my screen, which then decreases my enjoyment, I know I'm not the only one that does this but it sounds less weird in my head

[zenith jacinth]

Oh and baruuk

And sevagoth

Dante

I have many frames

[formal valley]

POV: you're a protoframe and I love you to bits

[supple dagger]

The Scooticle

[formal valley]

scoot scoot

[supple dagger]

Now I gotta wait two more weeks for new year kiss and loop reset

Hhhh

[zenith jacinth]

If needed I can help out with advice for the frames I just listed

[supple dagger]

I kinda feel bad for not using Mag as much as I used to, she was my first frame

5 long years

[vague turtle]

When I visit Aoi in the mall, the girlfriend voice lines play and I have the option to break up with her, but she won't show up in the backrooms and her KIM profile says I'm friendzoned. Is this a bug, or?

[amber terrace]

Just chat with her for a few days and she’ll move in eventually

I ran into the exact same issue with Lettie

[topaz storm]

Behold! I've constructed a legendary ancient piece of out of date tankery!

New War this weekend >:)

[torpid hollow]

Guys how to do the hex chemistry reset? Is it every weekend? Because i got everyone status on best friend and i wanted to romance eleanor. Ive already ask her on a date and made the kim status on best friend

[zenith jacinth]

In game new years by your choice

[subtle night]

oh thank bob the builder i dont need to restart on texting talking is hard enough for me

[frigid canopy]

Hildryn with Cat Shields is just: "Oh. You hit me? That's cute."

[amber terrace]

Catalyzing shields on Hildryn??? Pardon my confusion here, Hildryn already has a healthy 2.5-3.5 second shield gate, and Catalyzing Shields overrides that???? Why would you nuke your energy pool and cripple your passive???

Your question is breaking my brain, so pardon my hostility

[frigid canopy]

Answer: It's funny

[amber terrace]

[frigid canopy]

I don't actually use the build, don't worry

[amber terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/rdj-relief-iron-man-robert-downey-jr-gif-21020309

[frigid canopy]

It's much like how I have a no duration Wukong

[amber terrace]

I don’t know how to play Wukong so I don’t have a Kaithe in that race

[frigid canopy]

Or, and this one's my favorite: A riven for a VERY strong weapon with a great roll for crit, but -102% crit chance...

[amber terrace]

Guh

[frigid canopy]

My friend has a riven that's got like 200% crit dmg, 50% crit chance, and like 85% multishot, but -126% damage. It's hilarious

Actually healing enemies he shoots

[amber terrace]

<dying rabid animal noises>

[frigid canopy]

Pretty funny, eh?

[amber terrace]

It’s cursed is what it is(yes it’s a little funny)

[frigid canopy]

My first (and only) ever rubico riven had -dmg and -multishot on it...and I love it

[amber terrace]

I have a Larkspur riven I’ve rolled 500 times and the roll is still dookie

[frigid canopy]

😂 that sucks kaith nuts

[amber terrace]

Plus electricity,
Plus multishot,
Negative ammo capacity

I think I have the pic somewhere in the depths of my photo gallery

[frigid canopy]

Tbf, that's not all that bad. It's still usable.

[amber terrace]

But after 500 rolls?

[frigid canopy]

the 500 rolls thing tho, is very funny to me in a strong schadenfruedian way

[amber terrace]

Ngl I’m looking for someone to kidnap so I can force them to sit with me and watch as I bring it to 1k rolls

Because I hate myself

[frigid canopy]

the Kuva u'd need....hurts to even think about

[amber terrace]

Oh, Kuva?

I totally don’t have a Kuva issue

I totally don’t have 5,363,952 Kuva

[frigid canopy]

Sir/Maa'am? Are u okay, sir/ma'am?

Should I call someone?

[gusty stirrup]

God damnit i swear to god...

hermos get outta ur alt account, you already have enough kuva!