spoiler-chat

[merry hatch]

this has got to be wally, right? i don't feel like albrecht would do this gesture

[deft quiver]

nope. The eyes are normal. It's us telling loid the sequence is complete

[sand wyvern]

I thought lotus says every Warframe comes with a parazon early on

Pretty valuable utility tool

[deft quiver]

Yeah, so Amir and the hex always had it, maybe knew it was a blade, but not a decipher

[balmy storm]

Yeah

[sand wyvern]

I thought entrati might’ve forgotten to add a parazon because they’re protos

[upper patrol]

what do i give lettie? i ran out of medical kits

[vestal acorn]

Coffee!

[deft quiver]

coffee

[shadow basin]

It's prolly us, the player, that did that

[upper patrol]

thanks

[faint thunder]

Coffee machine, Coffee cups

[bitter mortar]

is there a way to retry the pc chats with hex? if you say wrong things

[deft quiver]

not if you finished the convo

[faint thunder]

I think I gave her a lunchbox and she liked it actually

[sand wyvern]

I was so done with entrati and then he pulled out the “you actually just needed to grow your heart card and this was all part of my plan”

[deft quiver]

However, if you left by mistake before finishing, you can log off and log in to reset it

[merry hatch]

he could've told us we had to get to know them instead of being a jerk about it

[sand wyvern]

Sad we can’t actually break the loop for them

[merry hatch]

manipulative* jerk

[vale sorrel]

he did, he said "not unless you know them"

[faint thunder]

He's an Orokin, he manipulates people, he's still learning!

[vale sorrel]

he's just still getting over his blue guy phase

[merry hatch]

what makes you think that? we can visit loid in person

[sand wyvern]

He did, and then he shot us

Bro said time for a reset

[deft quiver]

Maybe he has his reasons, maybe he did helped us save the Hex. HOWEVER i'm not happy on how he did'nt mentionned Tau being his plans, knowing damn well what Ballas did

[merry hatch]

hm i thought he shot us first lol

[sand wyvern]

Broski is playing chess

[upper patrol]

might be more of arthurs thing,hes the one that likes cooking

[sand wyvern]

I’m just happy the hex are alive and well now

[deft quiver]

yeah

[merry hatch]

albrecht still can't stop himself from being a smug manipulative jerkwad

[faint thunder]

I just gave Arthur all the cooking appliances

[deft quiver]

the finale healed my heart

Especially with Aoi... Damn

[sand wyvern]

We knew every point where we were needed and just popped in

[deft quiver]

that was not necessary DE !!!!

[sand wyvern]

Aoi was the most graphic part, I hate when that eye thing happens

It’s worse than physical injury

[merry hatch]

tw: eye trauma

[deft quiver]

it reminded me of a scene in an Avengers ? Scarlet Witch ? Where a guy have lost its mouth

and he just implode his brain

That broke my heart

[sand wyvern]

Eleanor and Lettie got offscreen deaths

[merry hatch]

multiverse of madness

[sand wyvern]

So you don’t have to witness the reality of it

[deft quiver]

Must've been horrible

[sand wyvern]

But they did Aoi so dirty

[deft quiver]

yeah, that was so uncalled for

[sand wyvern]

Amir is sad, but it was a single shot

[merry hatch]

my poor shriveled heart when arthur thought his dying words were "sory about your hand"

[ebon echo]

pretty sure his heart exploded

[vestal acorn]

^

[sand wyvern]

The horror of Arthur dying is knowing that your entire squad got wiped and you’re just there at the end

[shadow basin]

at that time, we were still prolly in 1999, I don't think wally would do that

[sand wyvern]

Bro I thought entrati shot him

I was already out of it by the time he died ig

[ebon echo]

nope, its shown clearer in the ||finale||

[merry hatch]

it's why we were telling him to slow down

[sand wyvern]

Lettie was not lying about the coffee it seems

[merry hatch]

he gonna bust him little self

[sand wyvern]

Don’t give this mans a redbull

[ebon echo]

give him one of those sleepin gummies lmao

[vestal acorn]

Eleanor keeps an eye on him too, that's his "cool down warning"

[deft quiver]

Wally and the murmur were expelled from 1999. But I feel like showing Loid the Vessels work is better than coming to him to say "yeah it worked". Also, we might be stuck in the loop we made

[sand wyvern]

I hope the indifference learned something from us saving everyone

Considering it seems to mimic what it sees rather than having true malice

[vestal acorn]

Not animals though, Albrecht tried that. He hoped they would dumb it down and it didn't

[deft quiver]

Wait what ?

[sand wyvern]

Entrati- that that stage in his life- was one of the worst people it could learn from

[deft quiver]

But if amir died of a exploded heart, why was Albrecht pointing a gun at him, right after the sound of a shot ???

Also, an exploded heart is not an external wound

[obtuse gyro]

Doesnt seem to learn otherwise, and doesnt help that it keeps creating torture scenarios

[ebon echo]

interesting to me how the parazon extends ngl. its soft when forming but hardens into a blade later. its like armour no? or smt. so. must be something with the infested. they did inject the stolen people with a doctored (altered) version of infested. must have been some kind of a defense mechanism then or smt.

[obtuse gyro]

the original seems to have him die to gunshot, but in the true ending we managed to stop a heart attack (and make him work fast enough)

[deft quiver]

I mean, Wally seems evil only since a few quest. Before, it was just like a rando that wanted to freak people. But now, it really feels like its mad. Like really mad

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, Wally's prior actions on the zariman and duviri seem pretty decent evidence of hostile action outside of quest events

[sand wyvern]

That’s what I thought

[deft quiver]

at least, now we know why he's mad

[sand wyvern]

it DOES dip whenever we give it any actual attention in a positive way

[deft quiver]

He didn't got over the fact someone stole its fingy

[obtuse gyro]

love is, after all, poison to its plans

o' indifference mine

[sand wyvern]

Propose to the indifference and it’ll explode

[deft quiver]

bro is "the Indifference" but seem very sensible on how we try to save the hex

like, if you're so Indifferent, go away

[ebon echo]

im talking about this. (not sure if itll let me send a short vid)

[sand wyvern]

Bro is anything but indifferent

Needs a name change, not indifferent anymore

[obtuse gyro]

you should talk to tagfer, he complains about this

[deft quiver]

Well, it doesn't care about people living or not, a deal is a deal

but it can't stand some rando kissing smth

[sand wyvern]

Seemed pretty adamant about us not saving the hex

[obtuse gyro]

Wally homophobic confirmed?

[deft quiver]

lovophobic

Allergic to love, literally

[ebon echo]

i think he just hates everyone equally lmao

[deft quiver]

honestly, I hope it's not JUST love to beat him

I want a fist fight

[vestal acorn]

"Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?" XD

[deft quiver]

I want it to beg for its life before

[vestal acorn]

Wallace does not consent

[ebon echo]

lets throw hands ha? lmao

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-relieved-smiling-wrestling-gif-19533991

[deft quiver]

i don't want it to be "I love you, Wally" turns into ashes

[ebon echo]

i would like to fire nukes if possible. if we get a missile launcher, let me get nukes too!

[balmy storm]

I rewatched my recording of the finale and almost started crying
i love this game

[ebon echo]

me too bro me too. i record every quest

[balmy storm]

I typically don't just cause it'd take up a lot of space

but wanted to record the finale
so glad I did

[deft quiver]

i love how since the start of the story of the game, only two updates didn't worked well, and they still are good

[balmy storm]

DE COOKED

[ebon echo]

yeah thats fair, i just have over 900 GB of space for this lmao so thats why

[sand wyvern]

I feel like we’re gonna try force, it won’t work, and then try love

[balmy storm]

what two?
cause what comes to mind for me is maybe archwing and def railjack

[deft quiver]

Duviri (for its "content island" type of thing) and railjack

[balmy storm]

I just got a new PC with a buncha space but I def wanna be wary since I know I am at times prone to saving too many things

[zenith jacinth]

And only one of those two still sucks to this day

[balmy storm]

I also clip things a lot when playing silly games with friends

[deft quiver]

yet they still are incredible updates

[ebon echo]

me too. i recently had to clear out space because of that lmao

[ebon echo]

this is a reply to this-

[deft quiver]

railjack is well used in the story and in the content, and Duviri might have some attention now that the Hex quest linked to it, making it finally a MAIN quest

[balmy storm]

I remember Duviri being kinda buggy but it wasn't that bad, was it?
I mostly grinded out solo and it was fantastic for me

[ebon echo]

i do have a question tho, will we be able to talk to the hex after getting to max with them in chats?

[balmy storm]

I'd assume so yes

[ebon echo]

i think launch was just a bit laggy cuz the servers got overwhelmed

[deft quiver]

The problem with Duviri is that it was so out of the game, that it could have been its own game with no context, it would have been the same. But now, with 1999, it might change

[balmy storm]

I mean we will be able to reset our relationship with em so

[ebon echo]

wait fr??

[balmy storm]

ah

[deft quiver]

They finally made Duviri a Main Quest after all this time

[sand wyvern]

When did I flirt with him???!

[balmy storm]

every new years we get the option to reset our chemistry

in-game new years

[ebon echo]

ooooh

[balmy storm]

first one should be on the 12th

so if you wanna romance all of them you can
if you want to only be with one of them you can

[ebon echo]

hmmm... that means i can screw around with the options lmao

[balmy storm]

yup!

[deft quiver]

You can't date all of them tho, you'll have to go through a breakup

[ebon echo]

ouch-

[balmy storm]

it's actually gonna take like a year to archive all of this lmao

[ebon echo]

for this run ill just respond with however i feel and see who i end up with based on that. later tho ill pick one. just curious. i think lettie hates me tho after the whole ||cephalons|| things

[sand wyvern]

Please tell me a misunderstood flirt isn’t dating

I didn’t flirt with this man

[deft quiver]

just sad we get to kiss once a year. I just hope we'll have conversations in between

[worn fjord]

Yea I’m gonna do exactly this too lol

[sand wyvern]

Romance options should be pink pls DE

[balmy storm]

I got the option to flirt with Aoi and Quincy so far
but I didnt go for either yet

[deft quiver]

LOL. It's a general note for the "liked" state, even if you didn't actively flirt with him

[sand wyvern]

I just said I wanted to use his motorcycle

[balmy storm]

ok thats actually really good feedback just cause it's hard to tell sometimes for some of us

[ebon echo]

quincy is wild lmao

[balmy storm]

ig the winky face is kinda there for that but its kinda lame if every romance option is a winky face at the end

[worn fjord]

True lmao

[sand wyvern]

I didn’t put the winky one 😭

[deft quiver]

wait, wdym option to flirt ? Are there special convos for this ?

[balmy storm]

I'm a lesbian so
it wouldn't work out

[ebon echo]

nuh, me too and we are laughing at his texts lmao

[sand wyvern]

Is a normal smile flirting too? I wouldn’t pick the winky one unless I’m trying for a romance 😭

[balmy storm]

I love quincy, he's prob my favorite of the guys
but I will not be kissing him lol

[deft quiver]

quincy would flirt you on the first convo if it wasn't programmed the other way

[balmy storm]

no?
I wanna say you just have to read into your own messages to know but idk

[ebon echo]

he seems like a mommas boy in a good way ngl. his death and survival line was so sweet

[sand wyvern]

Quincy is really chill, I was surprised because the first thing he does is point a gun at Arthur

[balmy storm]

oh yeah he def is!
I didint think I'd like him as much as I do tbh

[worn fjord]

Yea those parts got me in my feels 🥹

[balmy storm]

how does DE actually keep topping themselves???

[sand wyvern]

Saying “not today momma” was sad

[balmy storm]

the Holdfasts are an amazing faction
then we got the cavia

[nova harness]

Gray’s personal hell

[balmy storm]

THEN WE GOT THE HEX

[deft quiver]

The Holdfasts lack deepness I feel

[balmy storm]

hopefully we'll be able to help him out as much as we can

[deft quiver]

That's why I hope they'll fix this with future updates

[ebon echo]

they are on something lmao. ||jk obv||

[deft quiver]

we did'nt really got to know them as much as the cavia, fortuna or the Hex

[balmy storm]

that's fair, they def need more
I love Yonta the most and their overall story but they def don't hit as hard as the Cavia and Hex

[nova harness]

Because they take risks

[worn fjord]

Not much cinematic scenes I guess

[ebon echo]

ngl i love that ||fish|| lmao. all my friends hate him tho 😭😭

[deft quiver]

Yeah, I hope they'll add more with the Zariman being brought back in the story

[sand wyvern]

I’m bum rushing to max the standing on the syndicate because I want to see what happens

[balmy storm]

real

[worn fjord]

He has grown on me ngl

[ebon echo]

me too. im rank 3 rn! close to 4 : D

[balmy storm]

I hope it's a pizza party scene ngl

[sand wyvern]

I was afraid we’d need to max the syndicate before we could save them

[sand wyvern]

I’m on 25k through rank 3

[sand wyvern]

I hope it’s an actual cutscene to finish off

[ebon echo]

no cuz his personality is understandable. after all that i wouldnt expect anything less lmao

[balmy storm]

I'm def getting to rank 4 tonight

[sand wyvern]

I got them to agree on group lunch 🙂

[balmy storm]

same, though I love the group chat

[deft quiver]

ngl, I'm just sad how the "team dinner" mentionned in the rank ups its just a line of text. I WANT TO EAT WITH THEM

[ebon echo]

we get that ||at the end of the finalle||

[balmy storm]

the final rank is literally called pizza party so like

[sand wyvern]

I think it happens off screen

[worn fjord]

Same!

[balmy storm]

we best be having a pizza party with our besties

[deft quiver]

I don't want it to happen off screen, you feel me ?

[nova harness]

I’ll get R4 tomorrow

[sand wyvern]

I do

[deft quiver]

oh no, quincy got in my vocabulary

[balmy storm]

agreed!
just cause I'd love a screenshot of everyone together :)

[sand wyvern]

How does Eleanor eat…?

Is her tongue a proboscis

[balmy storm]

you're becoming british

[sand wyvern]

My teeth…

[balmy storm]

carefully?

[ebon echo]

i listened to his voicelines too much too and yesterday wrote like him lmao. i doublecheck now

[nova harness]

I do not suffer from such weakness because I’m already British

[worn fjord]

Lmao same and my irl reaction was literally “oh no…”

[sand wyvern]

I mean, I DID watch her rip out her tongue

I wonder if it grows back

[deft quiver]

Never knew slang was contagious... Should I consult Eleanor or Lettie for that ?

[night grail]

Lettie probably

[balmy storm]

potentially?

[sand wyvern]

I pickup on slang that I hear pretty quickly

[ebon echo]

Probably. Infested is bio. Bio grows.

[balmy storm]

maybe eleanor subsists off of smoothies

[sand wyvern]

It’s just interesting because she talked with her mouth after ripping it out

Which might mean she has a tongue AND an infested proboscis

[balmy storm]

what's everyone's favorite song so far?
I think it's gotta be core containment for me

[vestal acorn]

I'm pretty sure she mentions that she bit it off once before and it grew back

[nova harness]

Maybe she just bites it with her tounge

[worn fjord]

And then she’ll probably take it out again

[worn fjord]

What really damnnn

[balmy storm]

what that proboscis do?

[sand wyvern]

I would not want to rip out my proboscis daily

[ebon echo]

So, ||Y'all know how a cows tongue is a delicacy right?||

[sand wyvern]

She does eat an infested person with it

[worn fjord]

Yea looks like it hurts

[sand wyvern]

So there’s that

[balmy storm]

the tongue do have teeth

[deft quiver]

kill-ssing ?

I guess

[balmy storm]

nice

[vestal acorn]

Nope nope nopenopenope noooooope

[sand wyvern]

She doesn’t seem to have control over it, and it seems to be murderous

[ebon echo]

HAHAHAHAHA

[worn fjord]

My exact reaction

[balmy storm]

anyone else notice the drifter's wallpaper is duviri's joy spiral btw?

[nova harness]

I’m still refusing to do the finale of the quest even though all 6 like me just because it seems right to become the best of friends first not just liked

[deft quiver]

yeah

[balmy storm]

I kinda wish we had some PC options like during the ARG
let me choose my own wallpaper!

[worn fjord]

Oh that’s an interesting detail

[ebon echo]

In the backrooms?

[deft quiver]

yep

[sand wyvern]

I’d be overjoyed if I escaped a death loop

[balmy storm]

ye

[deft quiver]

it's the duviri joy sky, with some windows grass

[balmy storm]

ME TOO

[ebon echo]

I didn't notice-

[balmy storm]

its totally joy cause the Hex are a joy to be around

[deft quiver]

they are

[sand wyvern]

The hex are the only people that can relate to being stuck in a death loop

[deft quiver]

how can you not be happy being around them

[nova harness]

Can people actually enter the Backrooms without Drifter letting them in?

[night grail]

Drifter needed something to remind them of home hell

[ebon echo]

Or Maybe because this whole trip has been a joy-rney.

[sand wyvern]

Teshin kinda just landed in duiviri

[balmy storm]

I kinda hope that for tennocon DE just makes another special PC but its just Drifter's 90s one
but it can run Warframe better than anything else somehow

[night grail]

Yes we see the hex in there after we got whisked away to the zariman

[balmy storm]

har har

[worn fjord]

I need both the Hex and Cavia to meet

[balmy storm]

I need Lettie to meet the Cavia so bad

[worn fjord]

Or Hex, Cavia, Zariman and Entrati Fam

[deft quiver]

void powered, made by entrati himself

[nova harness]

We need Albrecht and Tagfer reunion

[sand wyvern]

So for Aoi surviving, did we lend her a little bit of extra energy? Or did she just needed to be told “you can do this” to not DIE

because we tell her “you can do this” and she just kinda goes super sayian

[balmy storm]

anti-wall virus not included

[night grail]

You know how it can be a lot to lift something heavy all alone

[balmy storm]

I need tagfer to ram straight into him

[night grail]

But it's easier when someone else helps

[sand wyvern]

So we did lend some energy?

[deft quiver]

the Hex meeting someone outside of 1999 would be hard to explain, and the easiest ones to explain would be the Holdfasts

[vital oyster]

Aoi's surviving wasn't shown well, but essentially, what we did was show her to NOT fight the machinery

[deft quiver]

But I agree about Lettie and the Cavia

[nova harness]

I’m surprised a 90s PC can do all the stuff it does

[vestal acorn]

So what I think happened is she freaked out and tried to brute force it, and had an aneurism
We had her slow down to think it through tactically

[balmy storm]

I feel like Albrecht might not make it our of this alive ngl, too many of us want him DEAD

[vital oyster]

If you watch the scene, you notice the pins go slack

[balmy storm]

like he's no Ballas but between the Cavia and Hex the only ones who can stand up for him are us and Loid

[vestal acorn]

The difference between trying to lift a boulder straight, and using a lever

[worn fjord]

Hmm true and also Cavia would understand I think

[vital oyster]

What she did was instead of fighting the pins, she destroyed the machinery pulling them away

[deft quiver]

If he did manage to get to Tau, he might not even live enough for us to find him again

[sand wyvern]

It looked like she got a massive power boost, girl just shoved that thing right back where it belonged

[vital oyster]

Then pushed then back in

[balmy storm]

I think we showed her she's stronger than she thought?

[sand wyvern]

I like the thought of this

[nova harness]

Before New War released people actually made should we kill Lotus or save Lotus polls

[balmy storm]

cause we didnt power boost any of them, just showed them the way

[worn fjord]

Yea I thought of it this way

[balmy storm]

I remember that!

[sand wyvern]

I always wondered why she didn’t melt the parts of the machine that were pulling

Considering she melts things

[deft quiver]

For Aoi, I feel like the Magnetic powers were to much for her brain, and by making transference with her, it was like... Two brain for one power ? So it was easier to bear

[balmy storm]

I dont think she's that powerful

[thick jolt]

yknow now that they added code to drift with the tommies, what if they added that function to grendel ?

[nova harness]

Think Ordis is lonely now?

[balmy storm]

I think the metal she uses in her shop is more malleable

[deft quiver]

but it could be just motivation, which would be weird... If you need extra motivation when you're about to die, maybe you need help

[worn fjord]

It’s been a while since I heard Ordis 😭😭

[sand wyvern]

The smaller mechanisms that pull, although maybe she can’t feel out individual parts?

[balmy storm]

why would he be?
he still has the operator lmao

[thick jolt]

operator now cant switch with drifter to rest from ordis' jokes cause drifter is busy

[balmy storm]

maybe, that'd actually be a cool convo to have with all of the Hex on how their respective powers work and feel to them

[nova harness]

I’m still questioning if Operator actually texted us Or Ordis pretending to be him

[balmy storm]

busy smoooochin

[sand wyvern]

I’m not sure if motivation could prevent your brain from bursting under pressure

[balmy storm]

it was Operator

[thick jolt]

still counts as busy

[worn fjord]

Operator

[balmy storm]

exactly

[sand wyvern]

We do see her melt entire objects and reshape them, maybe it’s a melting radius?

[nova harness]

Think Operator is jealous that he can’t date yet?

[deft quiver]

that's what i think too, I think transference gave enough extra support to aoi for her to do it, avoiding crushing her own brain

[sand wyvern]

RIP Amir’s coins

[sand wyvern]

Transference splitting the load could have definitely done it

[balmy storm]

I kinda hope that when we return to the Operator's side of things we get mail from the Drifter like
"Hey, we're chillin in 1999, I got like 6 partners now and saved the timeline, goodluck with the infested coming your way ok bye love you me <3"

[sand wyvern]

We did get Arthur back on his feet

[balmy storm]

again I think the metal she uses in those instances are just softer, the reactor likely doesnt use the same metal

[sand wyvern]

I wonder what arcade machine coins are made of…

[nova harness]

Operator and Drifter pizza party when?

[night grail]

Does operator even know what pizza is

[deft quiver]

about that, do we know if we helped him walk, or if we walked for him ?

[nova harness]

Don’t see why he wouldn’t

[sand wyvern]

I think it’s a little bit of both

[balmy storm]

we used transference on all of the Hex to help and guide them in different ways
we snapped Eleanor out of the infested funk
we showed Quincy where to fire
we showed Aoi just how strong she really is
we guided Amir through a panic attack and showed him how to use the Parazon
and we walked Arthur out of reactor

Lettie got left out but we still saved her too :D

[nova harness]

Actually what if Pizza was outlawed by the Orokin

[sand wyvern]

The Tenno DO take a warframe’s pain away

[night grail]

Well technically i guess since we saved eleanor we'd also save lettie

[sand wyvern]

Like with umbra

[balmy storm]

good question
gotta be weaker than whatever they used for the reactor tho

[balmy storm]

the real reason we killed them

[balmy storm]

our greatest power
basic human compassion

[sand wyvern]

Nettie asked for Aoi to make some basic tools, so I’m presuming at minimum she could use stainless or surgical grade steel

[deft quiver]

There is a convo with amir, where you can say to him that "Video games were banished after the first great martian war, in 17830"

[balmy storm]

ye thats what I said, we just didnt use transference on Lettie since we didnt need to

[sand wyvern]

Now what are reactors made of…

[nova harness]

Orbiter vs Drifters camp vs Backrooms when?

[balmy storm]

these are the questions we need to be asking the hex smh

[night grail]

Its also important that we didn't force transfer into Arthur. We held out our hand until he gave us consent

[balmy storm]

Backroom > Orbiter > Camp

[balmy storm]

EXACTLY

[sand wyvern]

I suppose melting something from a distance might also not be as plausible as using magnetism to pull

[balmy storm]

WARFRAME SO SO GOOD RAAAAAA

[balmy storm]

yeah, and again the reactor is def made of stronger stuff

[sand wyvern]

For one reason or another she didn’t do it

[deft quiver]

still, how did Arthur survived radiation poisonning ?

[balmy storm]

like throwing a car is different from more precise movements

[sand wyvern]

Being a Warframe?

[nova harness]

I wonder why the Backroom has CCTV when a Security room already exists was Albrecht just weird like that?

[deft quiver]

He died of it in the original quest tho

[balmy storm]

he was dying to it but, he is a partial warframe
also lettie has void magic healing so we chillin

[sand wyvern]

Be also remained there

[deft quiver]

yeah

fair enough

[sand wyvern]

We got him out

[balmy storm]

we got him out and lettie helped him

[deft quiver]

lettie deserve a break

[balmy storm]

and she's literally the healer frame lol

[balmy storm]

she deserves a pizza party :D

[sand wyvern]

Maybe the infested cells which are used to make warframes don’t experience as much damage due to radiation?

[nova harness]

Lettie vs Arlo when

[balmy storm]

was he not a corpse?
or was he an infested mimic
i still dont know

[deft quiver]

Now that we got a nice quest about these frames, how about you give us Rhino, Loki, Ember, etc as proto DE ?

I want more.

[sand wyvern]

Because that dose would definitely be fatal to a regular human

[balmy storm]

the on-lyne lore didnt help explain arlo to me
which is fine it didnt need to lol

[balmy storm]

I only want Ember proto if we get Frost proto too

[nova harness]

Arlo infested people to keep them alive

[sand wyvern]

I’m waiting on infested liches

[balmy storm]

I either want them to be rivals, siblings or lovers

[deft quiver]

yeah, oberon and titania too

[balmy storm]

real!

I feel like Wisp proto is def gonna happen ngl

[sand wyvern]

Can you use the proto heads with a different body?

[balmy storm]

I kinda hope DE puts out a massive poll for the community to vote on protos, maybe the top 3 get to be added

[sand wyvern]

I want to make Hayden Tenno

Proto excal skin go brrr

[nova harness]

Something that I can’t tell is the upstairs backroom window has a view of another backroom is that a reflection or an actual backroom that’s next door?

[deft quiver]

I mostly feel like Boss Wwarframes (Ember, saryn, rhino, etc) will be the first if they do more

[balmy storm]

in which case I'm so curious how they'd add them
would they be additional members of the Hex?
how do they fit in?
do they get a side quest where they're an offshoot of Albrecht's work and we have to help them with a seperate 1999 issue?

[deft quiver]

because after that, the warframe designs just doesn't match a proto version

like

[balmy storm]

as cool as Xaku proto would be I just cant see it happening

[deft quiver]

Koumei proto ?

[balmy storm]

like how would the 4 work???

[deft quiver]

Impossible, the design is not made for it

Loki or ash tho...

[balmy storm]

yeah, which I do think DE could find a work around if they really wanted

but Xaku needs to be enby

or multiple personalities and enby
or genderfluid tbh

[nova harness]

Xaku Proto would cause another this

[balmy storm]

they

[sand wyvern]

Bathrooms should not have windows 😞

[deft quiver]

Also, Amir mention Quincy having a little sister. And when i thought about it : Proto Mesa

[balmy storm]

they dont even remember what Xaku is huh

[sand wyvern]

Unless the window is only for light and is blurry

[balmy storm]

fake xaku fan smh

[sand wyvern]

I hate bathroom windows

[potent vine]

Do we get a new orbiter location after we beat the new quest?

[balmy storm]

if DE makes a Xaku proto I do think they would find a workaround for their 4
but they need to be enby or genderfluid, Xaku is literally neither he nor she like c'mon

[nova harness]

Better you get a new apartment type location

[sand wyvern]

Although my friend has a roof window on his bathroom, which is is better because nobody can look inside from there

[potent vine]

Hell yeah

[sand wyvern]

Bathroom in the orbiter, when?

[deft quiver]

It wouldn't work. Xaku being an amalgam of three warframes, a proto would be as horrible as the nemesis of Styanax

[sand wyvern]

How do I bathe after combat

[nova harness]

Helminth does it

[sand wyvern]

I have to go to 1999 to take a shower

[nova harness]

Ok Helminth original or new Helminth

[sand wyvern]

Wild

[deft quiver]

Or, Xaku proto would be the amalgam of three Proto cadaver, combined with the void. And i do not want this horror to exist

[sand wyvern]

Space helminth looks passive, 1999 helminth looks feral

[balmy storm]

eh, Xaku is specifically a composite of 3 warfames
but I do think that a sample can be taken of them and used on someone
the main issues come from Xaku being so tied to the void and their 4

I'm not asking for a Xaku proto, I'm more saying if DE wanted to do it they could find a workaround

[deft quiver]

yeah

[nova harness]

Watch Albrecht break the rules and make it possible now

[deft quiver]

the always do

[balmy storm]

it'd just be very difficult and tbh almost every other Warframe would be easier

[subtle berry]

I got the option to do the new year again, should I do it now or wait until I max Hex standing?

[sand wyvern]

I wonder if orbiter helminth looks passive because of us abandoning it for many many years with improper maintenance

[balmy storm]

let me be Xaku Proto
problem solved

[balmy storm]

do it

[deft quiver]

The main question about new proto is more about how will they integrate them in game, now that the Hex are already placed

[subtle berry]

what's the benefits of doing it? and downsides

[nova harness]

Let’s turn Ducky into a Proto

[merry hatch]

void sling out of the dirt

[balmy storm]

exactly whaqt I'm thinkin'

[sand wyvern]

Does all dirt fall off us when we go void mode?

[glossy axle]

are there people who are on level 5 of the hex yet?

[balmy storm]

I think Dante proto also wouldn't work just cause Dante's lore is he went mad due to Wally
which maybe that'd work but idk

[sand wyvern]

Imagine you didn’t need to shower because every single participle of uncleanliness or oil fell off of you in void mode

[glossy axle]

i was wondering if I can safely turn in the pizza and happy meals for standing, or if i should save them

[nova harness]

Everyone said that this new player housing doesn’t have a bed forgetting you get a bed by the balcony

[balmy storm]

maybe legendary 4 players?

[deft quiver]

Dante proto is as problematic as revenant proto, since the actual warframe is not the original

[subtle berry]

nope, tomorrow rank 4*

[balmy storm]

I save at least 1 of each

[balmy storm]

thank you L4

[glossy axle]

thanks Digi

[sand wyvern]

You know what I want? A big cozy chair near my computer

[balmy storm]

bird 3 has one sometimes

[sand wyvern]

Can you place stuff down in the 1999 living space?

[nova harness]

I decided to use one of the chairs the labs comes with it fits the theme

[deft quiver]

We got chairs, sofa, beds. That's cozy. But I want to sit on them DE

do you understand ? I need REST

[balmy storm]

I think I missed the snowball fight glyph
again
lmao

[nova harness]

Sleeping animation when DE

[balmy storm]

that snowball gamemode is not fan

[sand wyvern]

I didn’t know I could place stuff down there….

This is a game changer

[nova harness]

You can decorate all player housing spaces

[balmy storm]

does bird 3's decor inventory change every day or is it weekly?

[merry hatch]

folks on MR 30 have at least got to be close, if they're playing it

[sand wyvern]

All my roombas live in my orbiter rn

[balmy storm]

I'll be at 4 next reset

[sand wyvern]

I need more roombas

[merry hatch]

it's space magic, we can do it

[sand wyvern]

I won’t place down 2 of the same model

[balmy storm]

I got all mine spread out between my orbiter and dormizone
with the new one in the backroom

[deft quiver]

I'm at 3, 58k/70k, LR2

[nova harness]

I still really want to turn round the Navigation console to point the window

[sand wyvern]

They spread out immediately as soon as I leave edit mode, I have them there for my sanity when moving things around

Wait dormizone?

[deft quiver]

the zariman bedroom

[glossy axle]

ye, that's why i'm asking, I'm LR1, on level 3, but 3 -> 4 doesn't ask for like, syndicate medalions

[sand wyvern]

You can edit that too…??

[deft quiver]

Yeah

[nova harness]

I’m now convinced Wally can’t spawn in the Backroom

[deft quiver]

but it's kinda useless, since you can't make it your base of operations

[subtle berry]

backroom? you can

[sand wyvern]

We have so much property

[ebon echo]

i have so many i lost count

i dont know where half are

[sand wyvern]

I will continue to place them down as long as I get different colors or models

I will not place two of the same

[ebon echo]

i have the infested drone .>:)

[merry hatch]

you know what i'm thinking. the back room feels like a cozier aesthetic than the orbiter bedroom or dormizone to me, but i wonder if it really would to our drifter who grew up in that future

[deft quiver]

also, i love how the roomba you chose by ranking up rank 1 with the Hex is actually in the mall

[sand wyvern]

I saw it’s purchasable now, and I want it because of its helminth interaction

[merry hatch]

yeah you can, just exit the game from there

[ebon echo]

wait what now

[sand wyvern]

I hope there will be more changes to the mall

[sand wyvern]

In the shop for plat

[deft quiver]

lets bring back a moa for amir

[ebon echo]

no, it interracts with the helminth>>

??

[sand wyvern]

Oh yeah interact with the helminth and it can do something with the roomba

[ebon echo]

HUH

[sand wyvern]

If it’s in your orbiter

Try it

[ebon echo]

its in ||drifters camp|| but occasionaly drives in given its a connected space

[sand wyvern]

Smh

Move it to the orbiter and interact with the helminth

[ebon echo]

IT DOES LOOPS!!

[nova harness]

Pros of Backroom
No Wally jump scares
No Ordis talking too much
Less walking distance if you want to go outside in the Camp
No Lotus constantly telling you about alerts
All consoles an Orbiter has
Quick access to all 1999 content and beyond

Cons
Too much red zones
Furniture placed in odd positions you can’t move

[sand wyvern]

You saw the interaction?

[ebon echo]

yes

[sand wyvern]

W

[glossy saddle]

What’s the next update going to be any stuff on that

[nova harness]

Echoes of 1999 most likely

[ebon echo]

||uinfested litches|| or smt

[sand wyvern]

I hope we get hummus for 1000 plat and we just eat it and it does nothing

[ebon echo]

i wish to see the ||cubed up pizza|| arthur talks about in the chats

[sand wyvern]

When Arthur told me I did that I wanted to die

[ebon echo]

it was hillarious

[sand wyvern]

I would never do such an atrocity

[ebon echo]

but yes, agreed

[sand wyvern]

Sicilian pizza is a sin

[ebon echo]

i was like "how does he even eat that??"

cubes omlettes sound nice tho

[sand wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-cheese-pizza-food-pizza-day-cheese-pizza-day-gif-18469724

[vestal acorn]

With a fork, like a heretic

[ebon echo]

STAB lmao

[sand wyvern]

Fork and knife is diabolical

[ebon echo]

well now i want to see

[deft quiver]

With a spoon.

[sand wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-pizza-knife-and-fork-mary-avina-pretty-girl-gif-16720207

[ebon echo]

i take my words back

[sand wyvern]

Too late

Your actions have consequences

[ebon echo]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-warframe-mad-gif-5224761

[glossy axle]

another con to the backrooms:

Operator jumpscare in the mirror

[potent vine]

Here’s another question do we get nodes on the nav after the quest?

[deft quiver]

The nodes are on the PC, not on the nav

[potent vine]

Ohhh

What we have a computer now? The one that we played the demo on???

[worn fjord]

It’s possible that it’s like this because we’re in a different space of time. So yea it won’t ever be on Nav

[worn fjord]

Yupp that’s the one

[potent vine]

Nice

[night grail]

I'm so tired of people saying the drifter refused the deal

Because they didn't!

[nova harness]

Not everyone knew to look for the tablets

Downsides of DE doing it that way

[night grail]

Someone tried saying that the last few were addressing the Operator since it referred to "kiddo"

Despite like, no?

Firstly the man in the wall uses parental nicknames? Both the Operator and drifter were called kiddo by their father

We literally see this with albrecht being called "little bengel"

THEN there's the glaring flaw that the Operator hasn't even been to duviri

Why would they be addressing the Operator somewhere they haven't been

[fluid spoke]

The whole schtick is that the drifter wasn't rescued from the Zariman and wound up in Duviri while the operator was rescued and brought back to the Orokin

Both would be addressed as kiddo, if they both had the interaction with Wally

[nova harness]

The only tablet that is even close to about Operator is the finger bones one

Even then that’s not 100% clear

[celest forge]

Something i would like to have : unique line when you do a bounty with à Hex, and the hex react to what warframe you use
Like : if you use mesa with quincy, he say Something

[wild wind]

The problem is that they'd have to keep that updated with Warframes that come out AFTER 1999

That'd be plausible if the voicework was all still in-house but it's not anymore

[real niche]

There's also the fact that that's, at minimum, 360 lines for such a niche interaction.

[celest forge]

Didnt think about that
But with the already out, they are some line
Not every warframe need a line with à hex, just some that can be "close" to the hex
Like gauss & amir

[wild wind]

Thing is, what if they release a new psychic themed Warframe in three years, after Eleanor's VA's voice has changed?

[tepid cedar]

at most just make them react if you have their frame

[wild wind]

Rather than make it inconsistent it's best to not have it at all

[graceful zodiac]

There would be no benefit to niche interactions like that

[woeful jasper]

Just finished the finale, its peak

[wild wind]

Personally I think they should react to Umbra since Quincy has feelings about being turned into a lobotomized personframe

And everyone in 1999 has Umbra

But no more than that

[nova harness]

Am I the only person who thinks a lot of what Drifter says is an example of unreliable narrator

[wild wind]

I've never considered it but how do you mean

[nova harness]

So Drifter is saying stuff he wasn't even there for

[tepid cedar]

like what? im pretty sure everything drifter talks about they've been around for

[nova harness]

The moon going into the Void

[wild wind]

They talk some about stuff that happened to the Operator or in the main timeline before they would have been out of Duviri

[nova harness]

Yeah

[graceful zodiac]

To go back a bit, that's part of the paradox. Op is a part of Duviri regardless, thus why some questions are only relevant to Operator knowledge than Drifter

[foggy dagger]

what rank do u have to be for hex finale?

[wild wind]

3

All the members of the hex have to like you

[woeful jasper]

just build relation with them

every message that is gilded means your toward a good way, it took me 3 days chatting with them

do this until this doesn't appear

[wild wind]

So, to answer your question, I think you can roleplay the Drifter that way but I think the intention is that they heard from the Operator what happened in their timeline and have taken that as "the future".

(Also there's some degree of memory bleedover between the two that's never been expanded on)

[gritty flume]

#announcements message

bug to feature... this is like, the second time they chose not to fix it (but at some point there are some changes)

[vestal acorn]

They were hanging out with Ordis during New War as well, and Ordis probably filled them in and then some

[wild wind]

Not really spoiler chat but yes it's cool

[nova harness]

Think Drifter gets all the memories of Operator based on that void silhouette quote by Quinn

[foggy dagger]

thx

[prime lantern]

Tenno immortality revamped
Given a wild ride of new lore from 1999 ik revamping my theory on tenno immortality
But first to establish if we are immortal

The Drifter states in his conversation with Eleanor that "tennos existence doesn't end when the physical body is destroyed" implying the tenno utilize a metaphysical aspect to persist after death

Eleanor who can see all our memories tells us she doesn't think we can die not permanently

Eleanor compares the void to a realm of souls the void is also the source of tennos power and what let's them do "impossible things"

Albrecht entrati refers to oro as a marker for the "distinction of a singular persona" given the context the oro is a representation of consciousness which is metaphysical

WIP

[graceful zodiac]

Double checking, isn't that line about physical body on reference to using frames

[prime lantern]

Drifter prefaces it by talking about transference yes but

He talks about transference being the reason a tenno isnt fully tied to a physical form

[graceful zodiac]

Fair, I'd just note the caveat of that being in regards to frames than their actual body

[solemn cloud]

There is so much new lore and clarifications, in this update. Talking to the Hex has been so incredibly insightful on a variety of topics.

[prime lantern]

Its not in regards to frames tho he brings up frames yes but he says "our bodies" it's not some oh you've killed my proxy i have 40 more type deal

Shooting a tenno in forehead ain't keeping em down for long because you've gotta shoot the less physical parts of you to make it stick

[solemn cloud]

The reference is definitely in general and not specific to Warframes. Whenever they come up, the Hex specifically refer to the frames. Otherwise when they say our body, they mean us, the Drifter and our corporeal human soul-shell.

[graceful zodiac]

Ah, there is the full line to read. Fair enough, though we also know that no physical body does pretty much mean death with Rell

[prime lantern]

It might mean death

Rell is certainly a case considering he would die of old age had he not permanently transferenced into harrow

But his full death could be a product of holding back wally a very metaphysical entity causing damage to the metaphysical bits responsible for our immortality

[fathom oasis]

Bet Arthur loves U2

[balmy storm]

I have discovered something quite cursed

the gemini emotes work in Duviri

which results in a lot of weird face clipping due to the facial expressions being tied to the emote
which in my case it looks fine for Aoi's specificially

but Amir's emote gives me a big nose lol

[vestal acorn]

Oh no, what tha nose doin!?
It's getting stretched in a couple of those emotes in that video

[upper patrol]

Typo in update highlight,game literally unplayable omg
this is going to bankrupt DE

i do not know if i can put this in normal chat

[sage pond]

is there anything else to the geminy skin besides it talking?

[balmy storm]

facial expressions
they talk and react to different things
you can color their hair
for those that have additional accessories (I think just amir and quincy) you can enable or disable them
if you use their respective gemini emote they swap to your other fashion slot

[sage pond]

how do i get this emote, i bought mag gemini

[balmy storm]

You have it, you need to equip it like any other emote

[sage pond]

oh ok

[past dagger]

oh i got the finale at rank 2

[sage pond]

ok so how come gemini skin warframes dont walk around with us, weird that they just sit in 1 spot

[potent vine]

Wait….isn’t the Protokol pistol skins from that one Nightwave

[past dagger]

maybe they got a really bad cramp from the drifter overworking them

[sage pond]

or they just lazy bastarts

[past dagger]

that too

all the amoutn of lore being dropped from the hex dialogues is crazy

[rancid solar]

is there a way to check what your relationship level is with each member of the Hex?

[nova harness]

Yeah PC tells you

[rancid solar]

yea, I just saw. also I can put my 8million credits to use and just buy them gifts until they love me

[nova harness]

Yeah each day gift them things they like

[rancid solar]

I got Arthur a scooter, I hope he likes it

[nova harness]

He likes to cook

[rancid solar]

ah. he seemed to love his motorcycle so that's why I got him the moped

[nova harness]

If you read their notes it actually tells you what they like

[rancid solar]

yea, I'm seeing that now lol

also neat Lettie's birthday is Valentines day

[sand wyvern]

It’s still surreal that we got a romance system

If only we could share our orbiter with them

I wish umbra would freely walk around my orbiter too

[paper bronze]

Ordis implies that he does so it even more disappointing he can't

[tribal kraken]

I did hear that you could earn the Gemini skins in game via the relationship system right?

[real niche]

You heard wrong. They each cost more than a deluxe pack so them being earnable for free would be insane.

[tribal kraken]

Breh. Then there's no point in the relationship system lol. At least past the finale

[real niche]

That's what they said multiple times, yes. That the relationship is just flavor past being "Liked"

[gusty stirrup]

so uh...

post 1999, no coda yet right?

and i mean really post ||saving everybody||

[tribal kraken]

Seems dumb to do all that work for "flavor"

[real niche]

It's all just text, so not necessarily hard to do when they had to set it up for the Hex KIM profile anyway.

[gusty stirrup]

relationship is working tho, right?

ri-right?

[tribal kraken]

It works, it's just pointless lol

[gusty stirrup]

i mean, still gonna do it for the story

[real niche]

The point is lore.

[vestal acorn]

And it's fun?

[tribal kraken]

"lore" lol

[gusty stirrup]

and i really, REALLY want to know them better

[vestal acorn]

For some of us, anyway

[real niche]

DE already said it's optional and not needed to do anything in the game past being Liked by each member.

[oblique dirge]

its all just for fun. you could just as well consider the gemini skins pointless

[gusty stirrup]

who doesn't like a dating sim on their looter shooter

[real niche]

Do Apex H-09 if you want game systems that let you earn a cosmetic. :)

[gusty stirrup]

also 1200 plat is earnable if you are patient enough

molt efficiency, citrine arcanes, prime sets

but out of nowhere, i really thought we had to level up the hex to lv 5 to do the rest of the stuff

[vestal acorn]

Looty Shooty now with Booty
I hate myself
I didn't know I needed it until I got it XD

[gusty stirrup]

FOR REAL 🤝
DE cooked with this one, expect the unexpected from now on

[fringe spear]

i finished the quest like on day 2 but im leveling because idk if thats gonna be a requirement for the upcoming liches , i really want theem nooow

[gusty stirrup]

also can we get a "f you wally"?

[fringe spear]

f you wally

[gusty stirrup]

probably they will only require finishing the 1999 quest

[fringe spear]

hey any of you know the drop tables for hollvania rotations

[gusty stirrup]

i'm just curious how they will tie the k-pop boys into the new lore

aoi probably gonna be mad that we are slaying her boys

[tribal kraken]

There's a terminal near Lettie. Hacked emails. Have fun

[gusty stirrup]

THANK YOU

also

they said we could invite our SO to the orbiter, right?

[tribal kraken]

Press X

[gusty stirrup]

imagine aoi or eleanor reactions near helminth

[tribal kraken]

To doubt

[gusty stirrup]

i can be wrong tho

[tribal kraken]

I just want the version of Listerfiend that's in the warehouse to be in the Orbiter.

[gusty stirrup]

i heard something about it, but it could also be me dreaming

[gusty stirrup]

how near her btw?

behind her, on her left?
I'm trying to find it

[tribal kraken]

Against a wall on her room, there's a bar.

Or counter

I think it's on the wall near spawn in her room?

It could just as easily be near Aoi or Eleanor. It was a feminine protoframe for sure

[gusty stirrup]

alright

lettie is like, all the way up in the map

[tribal kraken]

Check Aoi. I'm remembering a very dim room with a blue hue

[gusty stirrup]

yeh its aoi

found it

Ooooh

[gritty flume]

it is…

[gritty flume]

how did you find it?

[tribal kraken]

I enjoy lore as much as the next guy. I just don't agree with the amount of work to get the lore with the KIM ystem

Feels like there should be more

[gusty stirrup]

next to aoi room

there is a terminal there

[tribal kraken]

Esp with Quincy throwing curveballs in his requests

[gusty stirrup]

||alright so they got the boys dna to make technocyte coda clones?||

[tribal kraken]

||yes, but they're imperfect and can only imitate vocal patterns||

[gusty stirrup]

||that explains why the on-lyne still sing, but have that corrupted side.||

[potent vine]

SWEET! I can finally have these!!!!

[gusty stirrup]

||either they really are infested clones of them, or they streight up are infected themselfes||

[tribal kraken]

||from what I gather, On-lyne doesn't know about it yet, as the Coda was still in prep phase||

[gusty stirrup]

||ohhhh so the on-lyne crew is being switched for their infected clones?||

[tribal kraken]

||for audio interviews, yes. Due to their "outbursts". One person expressed hope that the Coda could be perfected for visual appearances as well||

[gusty stirrup]

damn

now we just have to see how we gonna kill them later

[tribal kraken]

It's a nemesis system, so assuming it uses the same method.

More curious as to the requirements to spawn one. Is it gonna be like a juggernaut?

[marble plume]

question, has anyone who changed their base of operations to the backroom gotten "Hey Kiddo'd" yet?

[gusty stirrup]

No

Why?

[marble plume]

well i'm trying to figure out whether the back room really is a safe space from the wall or not

[gusty stirrup]

Probably kuva larvae or sister candidate

[marble plume]

if it is, awesome. If not, then well darn

[gusty stirrup]

I think 1999 is the safest place we can be from wally

Specially after we juked him

[marble plume]

but we never killed the major

she just, vanished

[gusty stirrup]

Probably the major was a wally personification on 1999.

She even called entrati a friend

[marble plume]

but didn't entrati say she was a "leak"?

i thought that meant wally was just accessing 1999 through her

[gusty stirrup]

Ye

Void leak

I guess... i think

[marble plume]

well she clearly seemed to be her own person

so maybe wally had somehow gotten to her

[oblique dirge]

the arg was about wally tricking rusalka into getting access to 1999, still unclear what exactly happened to her but thatll probably be expanded on in a later update

[gray ivy]

anyone else a little annoyed that the little music in the last part of the hex quest, when amir gets shot and falls down on the chair, is not in any song in the soundtrack? same for the little remix of this is what you are in the hex finale

I'm peeved by this

[marble plume]

honestly i would also like the this is what you are remix

[gray ivy]

he described it as a breach but same idea yeah

[gusty stirrup]

I didn't notice that

[gray ivy]

I listened to every song looking for it, it's nowhere 😔 and it's like such a good little musical moment

actually a master stroke we're not able to experience outside of the quest

[gusty stirrup]

Did you get access to all disks aoi has?

[marble plume]

i think they meant the actual OST that's probably on spotify

[gusty stirrup]

Oh

[gray ivy]

I'm only referring to the soundtrack that was released, I didn't really think of that. I guess she does have the caliber chicks stuff that's nowhere on the ost, maybe this will be too

[tulip bough]

I feel bad for coda and onlyne ngl.
One was created just to be exploited and can do nothing but "boyband" and exist only to make profit. There's probably a ton of issues of identity with that.
Onlyne got their stuff stolen and their art is commodified to the point that they're becoming a nonfactor in their own band.

[gusty stirrup]

Something about AI in 2030

[gray ivy]

commentary

[marble plume]

bruh idek where the coda lore is

and now i'm being spoiled by it lmao

[gusty stirrup]

Teleport to aoi and search for a terminal near her

[gray ivy]

oh

didn't know it existed either

[gusty stirrup]

My brother in christ ur in the spoiler chat xd

I'll take a screenshot of where it is, just a sec

[tulip bough]

Also Eleanor's dialogue about the infested in her body "everything they do is from a genuine desire to make me better and fix me up" and I know it probably wasn't the intent specifically but kinda felt comforting after a decade of autoimmune disorder.

[gusty stirrup]

my panzer is where aoi is

HOLY CRAP

alright i knew helminth was here

but damn, my boy is HUNGRY

[fringe spear]

lol

hey, are the new weapons tradeable?

[tribal kraken]

Not to my knowledge

But hey! I've been wrong before

[fringe spear]

haha damnit im having a really hard time farming the vesper receiver

and don't wanna waste any standing until im rank 5

[rain otter]

The backroom is a full base you can set to be your login.

[woeful patio]

Then you get it, and is a complete garbage

[rain otter]

Vesper is fine.

[rancid solar]

the fact that a lot of the Scaldra do a Naruto run makes me laugh

[amber terrace]

Out of the Hex, I’d rather rizz up Lettie, I also really want to play DnD with Amir

[rancid solar]

I'd wanna hang out with Amir, relax and listen to music with Aoi and debate with Lettie

[gusty stirrup]

Infested tongue aside.
Eleanor seems really chill and nice to be with.
And Aoi is really fun to be around too

[onyx shore]

sou uh, the tank can be summoned in simulacrum

[rancid solar]

lol nice, is it both phases?

[onyx shore]

no

i wonder if wfs code is better or worse than arthurs square spaghetti

can amir stop breaking down when i try flirting with him

[limber radish]

does anyone know what the hex members like to increase relationship with them quickly?

[rugged isle]

sounds like someone was down bad and built all the relations with the protoframes in one day :)))

[oak topaz]

Has anyone else had a bug where the scaldra parachute drone things are just immortal I got one with a shield last night and every time I got it to zero health it just popped back up to full health I was shooting it for like a full 8 ish minutes and it just kept healing

[rugged isle]

the parachutes clearly need some rework

there is an invisible wall at the top of the skybox in cities

if you shoot with a compressa you can see the bullets sticking to an invisible wall

and when they spawn in they spawn above the wall and slowly come down

if you usa a kuva ogris with napalm cloud, it will spawn a cloud in the air and kill the parachute things before they pass the inv wall

and get the launchers stuck on top lmao

you can brick the mission by doing that

[oak topaz]

I was using koumeis gun, thankfully it wasn't one that drops a rocket launcher and it wasn't in a mission that needed them

[eternal cargo]

I've been stuck at Neutral with all the Hex for several days despite getting Chemistry all over the place from messages and gifts

[muted charm]

Maybe I should have a talk with him, huh 😂

[viral compass]

Is this bounty broken for anyone else enemies Will not Spawn

[lost thistle]

all of my connections with the proto frames have reset to neutral that sets me back so much

i had all but quincy and amir at like now theyre all at neutral

[vague veldt]

Anyone here that has done the last quest with the Hex after reaching the required bond with all of them?

[oak shoal]

Can you still try to flirt with a member of the hex after you fail the speech check?

[tight pagoda]

Yeah I think you can keep trying again and again

I doubt you’d be locked out of the relationship until the clock hits July

By then it might be too late but before then I feel like there would be plenty of romance opportunity

[oak shoal]

Ok kewl what's the prompt for amir, I've heard it's dnd, be forward, and be kind to him

[robust swallow]

I love how we getting in the hex heads and tweaking something slightly and with Amir we're just "here, have a parazon"

[heady siren]

anyone else's bikes doesnt have their equipped skins inside of missions?

[robust swallow]

Hotfix notes tell about it, the basic one is for missions, the modified is for 1999

[heady siren]

Dammit, wanted my cafe racer

[oak shoal]

I wish they would've kept it in for space missions, that was the funniest stuff I've seen happen since gauss cross countrying the plains

[heady siren]

I don't see where it says this

I only see that it's now added aside from archwing missions and all that

yeah it's just people saying they hope the skins will follow through everywhere

[oak shoal]

I mean, yeah, man's like a heckin rubix cube when tryna flirt with

[heady siren]

I will say i looooooove being able to use the base of operations as orbiter

[heady siren]

Maybe it got removed?

oh im an idiot

nevermind i cant read :')

i thought it was its own point

[pliant helm]

I finally got the good ending

[lean juniper]

Is there a rank after liked so you know which one you romancing or no

[flat magnet]

There’s Trusted Close Bestfriend / Loved

But apparently you can ask them out when you’re trusted

[raw canopy]

is the h-09 apex bossfight bugged? im going to die to cascading fragmentation because the rpg troops are not spawning

[amber terrace]

Tfw Atomicycles got more love than K-Drives

[flat sinew]

Hey so I'm on the doctor entrati website, and I can't solve the riddle to gain access.

[amber terrace]

lol, lmao even

[amber terrace]

For the ARG?

[flat sinew]

yea, I tried kalymos, doctor entrati, entrati, doktor friday, ballas, anything I could think of that fit, but I got nothing

[amber terrace]

What screen are you on?

[tight pagoda]

Goddamn that Apex fight is gonna be difficult without Revives

[flat sinew]

trying to gain access through access.app to (I think) gain admin access. there's a riddle to "say his name" for the password

[tulip bough]

What are they talking about in the rank 4 messages? I think I missed something?

[amber terrace]

I wanna say the Finale

[amber terrace]

If I may, would you be able to send a screenshot or even take a picture of your monitor?

[tight pagoda]

Password is ||Anansi||

[tight pagoda]

Clever trickster, Master of webs, it’s a reference to ||the god Anansi||

[flat sinew]

oh, yea I thought it didn't really match with entrati, is there a clue to find that somewhere?

[tight pagoda]

The clue’s the poem itself

I don’t think there was any foreshadowing besides that

It might be a tease at a future Warframe? Heavily implied to be a spider based one because of all the jokes they say about them in stream

[flat sinew]

Ah yea, that would make sense. who knows maybe the passive on them is going to make loki's look terrible, "infinite wall hang"

[graceful zodiac]

It's not, Reb has said that's not in the works at least twice now

[flat sinew]

well more terrible

[limber radish]

||hah funny, should I mess with him? or will he not like that?||

[flat sinew]

don't get him too excited, he might explode.

[limber radish]

chose the top option, no gold text rip lol

no progression for me this time

[sharp flare]

got them all now

[tight pagoda]

Crazy work, good job

If you don’t mind, what build were you running with Trinity? Complete build, weapons, companions and all

[flat sinew]

Oh, gold text means something? I guess I must really just be good at playing to their likes

[tight pagoda]

Gold text is a positive interaction yeah

[sharp flare]

I gotcha, lemme grab em.

[flat sinew]

seen that alot, just thought it was just a quirk.

[sharp flare]

Quiver yourself constantly

or rather quiver your sentinel so you stay cloaked

[limber radish]

ooh! those look awesome! how did you get them?????

[tight pagoda]

Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏

[tight pagoda]

They’re from killing the Apex bosses solo

[lean juniper]

How do you get the different endings

[tight pagoda]

With a specific frame

[sharp flare]

Solo the secret SP tank boss/murmur boss with the designated frame!

[limber radish]

how do i get to these secret bosses? is it the final objective in the SP missions?

[amber terrace]

I made a flirt message towards Lettie and she said that she’s not ready for that yet, will I ever be able to rizz her? If it helps, I had the convo while I was R3 and I hit R4 today

[sharp flare]

When you are getting rid of the ferrite doors in the Tank mission, there is a secret console before both that look different than the ones you call own the paratroopers in

[tight pagoda]

There’s an additional secret involved, for the tank, when you hack those terminals to get paratroopers to drop the RPGs, there should be hidden terminals near by

[sharp flare]

For the murmur you just keep collecting eyes after 30 til you hit 60

[tight pagoda]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/H-09_Apex

[sharp flare]

[limber radish]

so do the assassination with each of "their" frames?

[tight pagoda]

Be warned, these bosses are tougher, they have ability nullifying powers, and you can’t use revives while fighting them

[limber radish]

sheesh

[tight pagoda]

Yep, solo each of them

For the tank it’s just the 6 Hex frames (skins not needed), and for the Murmur boss its mirage, gauss, jade, Sevagoth, Vauban, and protea

Not all frames have an accolade unfortunately

[limber radish]

the murmur boss is a separate fight?

[silent fiber]

hey so id hate if this has been asked before but if i do go ahead and "attempt new years eve again" will i still get the kiss cutscene in January 2025 or should i be waiting?

[tight pagoda]

The kiss is separate to the Attempt New Years Again finale

[silent fiber]

okay perfect thank you so much! I just wanted to double check

apperciate you gamer

[limber radish]

thanks for the info on the tank boss! what about the murmur boss? how do i fight that one?

which mission is it

[midnight swallow]

going to have to place all the displays backwards to put them on this wall

[amber terrace]

Collect 60 eyes in SP Effervo on Deimos

You can continue after the normal 30 by collecting a spike and heading to a marked vitreum

[limber radish]

thanks

[dense ice]

||So why is drifter still looping 1999 after successfully stopping the bomb?||

[amber terrace]

Conjecture: after millennia of killing people, it’s nice to be able to settle down

[solemn cloud]

||Maybe just trying to avoid Y2K?||

[glossy saddle]

To breed Aio

[limber radish]

amen

[midnight swallow]

goodbye dormizone and orbitor

[wild wind]

I think Arthur implied it's about preventing Wally from un-changing the timeline? Somehow?

[primal merlin]

Just realized the parallels between the Tenno/Warframe origin story and the Drifter's deeds in 1999. We once again establish Transference by learning how to see inside an ugly, broken thing and take away its pain.

[wild wind]

Yep. Albrecht kinda alludes to it. 1999 was training to transference into living, conscious beings

Things that already have a will of their own.

[primal merlin]

You know what that means

We're gonna get a Kaiju/Mecha fight with the giant humanoids in the Sanctum.

[wild wind]

I can't believe Warframe is going to end by making an extended Punch-Out reference

[primal merlin]

It was always meant to end this way. With Albrecht telling us "Get in the robot, Tenno" and then we fight god.

While we're at it, I have to wonder what the dev's opinions are on the movie Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. That universe basically functions on Eternalism rules and covers a very interesting perspective of nihilism. Something that came to mind when hearing the Indifference trying to demoralize us.

Something along the lines of, "If every other possible version of you exists and is doing something that you can't, then what's the point in even trying? Some other version of you is winning, so the current you should just give up since none of your efforts actually matter."
To which the answer was effectively, "If nothing we do matters, then that means the most important thing is doing what we want and following our hearts. There's no objectively correct choice, so long as we fulfill our role well and are satisfied with the outcome."

[solemn cloud]

Except Wally killed all other versions of "us" to prevent that exact scenario.

We learned that during the new war - so we are the last 2 "US's".

[obtuse gyro]

alternative interpretation is that that scene was showing how we're stuck in the loop

and it only stops cuz drifter and not wally is there

[solemn cloud]

And junior is busy in the Origin system while we loop a year so we can live happily ever after with a protoframe.

[solemn cloud]

During the"deal" Wally compressed all versions of us into one - but Drifter was an anomaly outside of that and saved our bacon.

[obtuse gyro]

I agree on the drifter bit, but Im more partial to the interpretation where what we witnessed was the end of the loop before it loops back, only breaking because drifter broke us out

not a "we got collapsed into one"

[graceful zodiac]

That's just the most popular speculation really

[solemn cloud]

It's foreshadowed by baro and his situation.

He asked for it, being the only difference.

[graceful zodiac]

That's why it's the most popular school of thought

[obtuse gyro]

But its also not exactly compatible with the whole "the walls collapsed and more tenno come!" when baro talks about xplay

[graceful zodiac]

But we really don't actually know what happenned

[solemn cloud]

Wally made all other versions of us choke and die - that is objectively true.

Subjectively as a trade for saving all the children on the Zariman.

[obtuse gyro]

but whether that is the "collapsing of all our timelines into 1" or "the resetting of the loop" isnt

[graceful zodiac]

It's not objectively true is the issue

all we saw is versions of ourselves dying

[solemn cloud]

Yes it is. It's the cutscene. I'm just describing it

[obtuse gyro]

ctrl+z the operator knockout animation lolololol

[graceful zodiac]

We saw version of ourelves dying. That doens't mean Wally is the one killing us, ergo the loop theory Bau is suggesting

[prime lantern]

There is no level of objectiveness here

Wally killing all the other uses is popular because at the time we had no idea it was a timeloop

[solemn cloud]

Neither did the devs, based on what was originally inferred from the first bits of Duviri info.

[obtuse gyro]

?

[solemn cloud]

I don't see anything that suggests a loop thing was planned until they finalized Duviri Paradox

[fading current]

Is there loot tied to replaying the finale or is just for cinematic replay purposes?

[graceful zodiac]

The Duviri loop ceratinly wasn't planned in the intial 2019 trailer

[solemn cloud]

The original plans seemed more about the operator helping the Drifter from outside Duviri.

[graceful zodiac]

but DE definitely has time loop in mind by the time New War came out

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, regardless if they "had it planned" or not, we know that zariman section in TNW is very explicitly a time loop

[solemn cloud]

How so?

That's just the paradox fulfilling itself.

[obtuse gyro]

The Tenno’s personal timeline has been disrupted. Knowing he cannot kill the Tenno, Ballas has opted to imprison them within their own history. The Tenno will be unable to escape this loop without the paradoxical intervention of an outside force.
Regarding the end of Act 1 of TNW

[solemn cloud]

We learn that the past is actually a result of the present due to eternalism. Eternalism isn't a loop - it's all time existing simultaneously.

[obtuse gyro]

But also, the zariman section is called a loop

[solemn cloud]

That is told to us directly in that quest.

We're not looping - we are accessing a different point in time to complete causality.

But it is within the block.

We don't repeat anything. We just live outside of normal time and events happen out of what we consider the right order of time.

[obtuse gyro]

Again, I would like to reemphasis that the Zariman section in TNW has been explicitly referred to as a loop in the game

[solemn cloud]

When?

[obtuse gyro]

this is from the POM-2 in the entrati labs

the designated in universe lore recap that DE made for us

under entry "10_Ballas.txt"

https://www.warframe.com/news/operator-report
also found on this website so you dont have to log on warframe

[deep quest]

👍

||Solo The Fragmented One as either Vauban, Gauss, Protea, Sevagoth, Jade, or Mirage to acquire a similar icon||

Wasn't easy, but the power of Angstrum Incarnon got me through 👍

Still shaking

[graceful zodiac]

Heck, we already knew messing with time is a thing through Lua spy and Deadlock Protocol

the Zariman time loop is on the up and up for how things work

[prime lantern]

There's also the computer said so

Twice

[fading current]

Thinking about this loop now. Do we know much about how many times our operator went through the process of the whole Zariman flashbacks? Or did we, as the player, shift through their multiple experiences? Like I wonder where it’s considered a loop…cuz experiencing it in-game you experience the sequence of events only once leading up to the handshake with Wally. I wonder how many other times they experienced the same events until the drifter interrupted it (can’t remember if it was the drifter who disrupted the past loop we were in or Wally??? Would love confirmation)

[prime lantern]

Drifter broke the loop

[fading current]

Thank you ^.^ wasn’t entirely sure on that one

[obtuse gyro]

1. How many times? No perhaps you could count the number of "deaths" in the handshake scene? Doubt its an accurate measure
2. Its possible where the sequence took us through multiple runs, but stitched together to look like a single one from the player perspective, but like, we wouldnt know since the loop should happen the same way
3. I would assume the end of the loop is the handshake, since thats where we see the "deaths"
4. see 1)

[fading current]

AH!! I see. I got it now. Thank you for the clarification!!!! Was wondering how it worked as a loop outside of the player POV so this definitely helps ^.^

[flat magnet]

60 eyes?

[deep quest]

Yup

[flat magnet]

Ooof I still need to do 60 eyes lol

[deep quest]

Gotta solo Mr. 60 with one of 6 frames

I did it using gauss because I enjoy gauss' gameplay

It's more of a flex icon if I'm being honest

But, I'm still gonna use it

[flat magnet]

Never bothered attempting it probably should when I decide to do solo Apex Tank challenge

[deep quest]

Apex tank has the protofames

*protoframes

Seems like each character will get one accolade glyph

[flat magnet]

Yeah I’ll probably attempt that first then do 60 eyes

[fading current]

It’s a good thing i main excal (umbra) then lol

[deep quest]

You don't just need to main the frame

You've gotta master the fight too

[fading current]

Well duh…I’m just saying…I’m very well experienced with my boy lol

[deep quest]

Good

Good luck soldier 🫡

[fading current]

Haha thank you

[jovial bison]

Rank 4 spoiler ||Really happy the rankup actually acknowledged the quest and completing the Finale! I'm excited to see what happens at Rank 5, hopefully something cool!||

[prime lantern]

How are the tenno immortal

A Tenno possesses a degree of immortality via their Oro, a manifestation of their consciousness:

In the Conclave, Teshin tells us how our Oro is "the binding force for an enemy who, like the Tenno, can survive death." This enemy is the Sentients.

Eleanor, who can see all our memories, tells us she doesn't think we can die—at least, not permanently.

Albrecht Entrati mentions Oro, claiming "It was not necessary to explore queasy debates about the Oro; animal minds simply lacked the full distinction of a singular persona," meaning Oro is a quality possessed by any being with a "singular persona."

This aligns with real-world arguments about animal consciousness, suggesting that Oro is likely a form of consciousness itself.

The Sentients can persist after death by separating their consciousness, or Oro, into fragments, making the death of one fragment not affect the whole.

Eleanor compares the Void to a realm of souls. The Void is also the source of the Tenno's power, which allows them to do "impossible things."

The Drifter, in his conversation with Eleanor, states that "Tenno existence doesn't end when the physical body is destroyed," implying the Tenno utilize a metaphysical aspect to persist after death

Tenno can separate their Oro/metaphysical aspect from their body, allowing them to persist after death and, presumably, rebuild or reform a body via unknown means, likely involving Void energy.

Killing a Tenno would require the ability to crush their consciousness after death.
Huzza the final product

[faint thunder]

I'm confused, is Arthur French

Because I swear I heard him say Allons-y

[obtuse gyro]

Is the 10th doctor french?

[faint thunder]

Look this is important, if he's actually french, I'm obliged to give him the Quebecois colours

[obtuse gyro]

Arthur is britannic

[prime lantern]

Is he?

[faint thunder]

I'm still going to slap him in Quebecois colours

[obtuse gyro]

Aoi is catanidan? Canatian?

[faint thunder]

Canatian? Just one letter off from Canadian...

[fathom wagon]

Question, anyone got a solution for Babau Leech Eximus? Worst thing I've encountered by far in the game... Just encountered it in the SP PvEvP gamemode, and other team was not able to kill it. For us, it took like 5+ minutes when it randomly died, and we've no clue how. And I thought leech eximus sucked when it was the voidrig ones in elite deep archimedea

Fun fact, murmur boss in elite deep archimedea is easier than either of those two, for some reason I cannot understand

And yes, I did use dual toxocyst, with a riven even 🤷‍♂️

[faint thunder]

There's a fix coming for it since what's been happening is that the steel path modifier was being applied to it twice.

[fathom wagon]

Huh, I thought maybe the leech eximus was just put on an even worse unit than before, but that explains things. Thanks Tenno

[rain otter]

This is actually gonna be changed in a hotfix but the answer is like gas/corrosive pretty sure.

[fathom wagon]

If something 10x my damage, I'm not even sure that is enough, but certainly worth a try, thanks

[naive badge]

Has the warframe lore made a way to crush consciousness in this case?

[elder granite]

Damage cap on the babau is 174k. It has attenuation like the nechramechs

You might be able to kill it really fast with certain setups. Haven't tested it yet though.

[covert tree]

No he's named after arthur the British king who wields excalibur aka he's a tea drinker

[tight pagoda]

Lettie says Sayonara at some point

[meager berry]

will they add more modernized weapon

[balmy storm]

I don’t think they’ve said yet

[hardy wadi]

Assassination with the endless spawns in EDA is the best thing ever, I left a couple of those with hundreds of Stela

[hardy wadi]

They need to add the RPG asap