#spoiler-chat
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Dude
True, maybe when 1999 is over and normal we will get lore
I'm sorry how did Erra die? Did a rock seriously do him in
No, he IS Pazuul but he's trapped in his own body
I'm still super curious about that, it means he was more keen on the Tau mission than I first thought.
Exploding ship, and he was still mostly alive, but the Archons took his remains and created Pazuul out of them
He has been taken over by the archon prime pazuul
I assumed void corruption somehow
Yes it was the sun. But he's a full sentient! Not the drone chiplings we fight
He has a voice line as pazuul
"I'm sorry tenno...... " and more
That’s what he gets for having the worst character design I’ve seen in years
Scary Chicken leg robot
Yeah he’s trapped
Because for the longest time I had no clue pazuul was Erra. Erras death never really came up
In the quest we just even nodded at him, didn't acknowledge he died or anything
Space uncle will come back to us
Mfw
the last half of the new war was a bit odd tbh
Rell?
Same vibe
This was an Ostron kid at the very start of New War who Erra approached
honestly wouldn't surprise me. we did collapse the multiverse after all hehe
Lmaoo, why he lookin as if we did it
“Don’t be afraid”
How could I? 🤣
Erra was terrifying though, be honest
Big anime eyes tho. If only he had huge naturals
Let's just visit the anti verse where warframes have taken over or sth
guys do i have to wait until the next hollvania season before i can talk to the hex again
when a sentient starts acting benevolent you should be scared
yeah, we made a second one as the drifter and we watched different versions of drifter "die"
ooooh ok
When a sentient _________
Basically anything a sentient does is scary
plus canonically Baro also made a similar deal :)
I keep forgetting but I want to go back to the Sanctum to see anything new
Baro made the deal because it was with an extremely charismatic and handsome individual (himself)
Sanctum is my favorite place in the system although hollvania is up there with it now
Bro is drpped out off his own arrogance
Baro is space Bruce Wayne w/out the batman
Maybe we travel back to the origins of Wally and Albrecht
Probably not, I’m not sure what more info we can learn in that interaction unless we see it from the Indifference’s POV to sympathize with it
I’ll sum it up real quick
Which, after that Zariman stuff in 1999, doesn’t seem likely
i exist
i am being used
i am mischievous now
Wally is a version of Albrecht who harnessed the powers of the void and is trying to pull a baro where he destroys/absorbs all other versions of himself but our Albrecht is the only one who he cant seem to grasp
So he can do it to h8mseld then no?
Eternalism doesn't have timelines in the traditional sense. Instead stating that "all possible choice/chance events are simultaneously real in seperate realities." My assumption is that with the Drifter taking the deal, all possible "future" versions of the operator have now been wiped. We see the other drifters die.
time is a flat plane in eternalism, meaning that you can walk backwards and forwards on the plane
my mistake, I meant operators that turn into the drifter
Dang, nothing new in the Sanctum. Loid even says “I wish you could’ve met my Albrecht”
I have 2 questions:1 the hex quest is replayable? Idk bc im at work rn and i didnt see it
Anyone been “Hey Kiddo’d” in the Backroom yet?
no :(
2 what in the bloody void is entrati lex build.
Not yet at least
they always wait a while before letting us replay
Plus the quest is split into two
You probably have to do the finale before being able to replay
Ah fair enough. The definition I read said that there are no "timelines" in Eternalism
I have a feeling that the 2° part gonna have zariman involved
Finale?
As a location, yeah, but the Angels quest wasn’t a prerequisite for 1999 so probably not involving the events of that quest
They accidentally spoiled that there was a way to save the Hex
i got the quest but didnt do it
is gone now :(
You need to get to Rank 5 with the Hex and interact with Kalymos in the Backroom area
awww, at least that gives me time to romance Aoi all the way
i will succeed in my romance
Yeah.... Aoi is kinda mind blowing as character.

you bother me
i like Aoi and Arthur, so far they're my two favourites
Quincy makes me feel uncomfortable and I don't like it
Hehehehe
Arthur was really friendly in my chats with him. I found if you let him ask the questions he'll be nicer
Im mad bc le died in a kinda sad way.
the trinity one was really mean to me when we were talking about her rats so i stopped caring
but i liked her questions about religion in the future, very interesting to see religion in warframe
Foul
and amir just gives little brother energy, not dateable energy
Ik entrati know we had the loop power, but the moment he shoot amir it hurt my heart rlly bad
All characters, quincy, le, eleanor, aoi, arthur the most painfull is amir in my opinion
I don't think he knew
He asked if our loop was not brokeb so he knew about duviri power
And he did it again whem he shoot on us
He also implied they were in the same loop
He’s been to Duviri so he might’ve figured out the Drifter was the cause of that
i think 1999 just loops in general, maybe with eternalism drifter is always there and always looping
He probably also shot us because he wanted the explosion to happen and we were trying to stop it
Maybe he didnt understand how the loop works exactly so he did a faith leap on us
Maybe, but entrati was rlly wanting to have a beaf with wally so i dont think he would drop everything like this
Entrati is a orokin but also the only orokin yet that rlly cared about others
from what he know of Entrati, no, he only cared about himself and Kalymos
really puts into frame him saying "don't be late." Like that could be referencing Drifter entering 1999, Drifter getting to know The Hex, stopping the bomb, etc. Really feels like the whole 1999 story is all about "don't be late"
I thought was really cool.
yes
it was really really cool to find that they worshipped lua, really helps frame why the orokin made lua the capital
I think he is scared if wally win again
so scared in fact he wants to get to Tau as quick as he can
Entrati stated that many times that the indiference scares him
But also want to fight it
Entrati is a orokin afterall
Cant blame him
But we dont did it by our owm concious
Agreed, kinda feel like Entrati saw us as a loose end rather than his personal "loop resetter"
We just did it whem we died so maybe even us dont know how to use this power
Drifter used it at the end of the Duviri questline
maybe that indicates that we're in another void reality?
Or maybe we setted the loop there, something like the protea time bubble
Bc this he needed the loop
late to the party but based on albrecht's notes about wally, highly doubt it would be the case
Switch your initials
Tau Bethaurus
New lore
o-okay
Ikr, this is why he needed to make sure about our loop
another orokin fraternising with the sentients, big surprise 🙄
Plot Twist tau is actually where the soul frame gonna be
Just FYI that's not quite what happened there. The PC logs explained that Ballas trapped the Operator in a loop, so what we see is the Operator being broken out of the loop by the Drifter.
They sing "everyday I'm getting stronger but I still feel the pain" maybe it's a reference to how they still have conscious but as the infested grows and they get more power they feep the pain that the hex feels
I ...i know... This was a joke....
Probably weapon skins
Eleanor????
Still angry at it...
Le took my place ! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ME
Trinity took my place
My dreams of having a crazy woman jump on me.
it's not nearly as fun as you think it is 😢
Now thinking about it .. we saw a infested queen
Iunnno last lady I knew who got queen of bladesed got fixed and jumped backed into it like 5 minutes later
That means our system infestation has also a queen??
Kaelli obviously
Still a good theory, the infestation also works like a ant colony too
Just like on-lyne
I still thought that when she absorbed the infested she’d go fully warframe. Though when she got hit by that gas and said ‘they’re hurting my CHIlDREN’ I was like ‘uhoh’
The Legacyte, yes
I thought that was an infested gorilla with the way it walked
No, just an aberrated flesh monster
It is infact not just the helminth with legs like the Argon Teshin Statue
I'm in love with the backroom it's got a dirty aesthetic that I like
I like how colorful the Helminth chair is
I like the new helminth in general I dub him Kevin 2.0
I like the new Dormizone type room in general
Also wally doesn't show up does he?
Yeah but better
Haven’t seen him so far
I also love how you can use the atomacyle in every mission type even outside 1999 aside from rj and duviri
You can use it in regular missions?
They should allow that for the horse too
If it's a bug they should keep it. It isn't hurting anyone
No they probably let you use it because the tomy can't fly
It can find of fly
aww no Duviri? I guess it makes sense
Let’s say I don’t want to romance a character, does sending gifts increase romance or is that strictly the dialog I pick?
It’s surreal that I asked this in a Warframe server
opposite for me, I love quincy and hate arthur
The early part of the quest feels like its missing a bunch of information
was the whole point of loids experiments not to get us back to 1999 but we just kind of pop out there?
and how does the drifter know about the reactor and entrati saying "he got into our loop" mean we were already in the loop before the quest started?
I sent Eleanor a pillow because she’s always laying down on that couch
what gifts does eleanor like? cant figure out anything for her
Loids experiment was to get us there
quincy's a cool guy. im glad he took this well. it's literally not his fault anyway, im just a lesbian lmfao
Actually I saw that they hint it to you AFTER sending the pillow
If you click on their profile from the computer you can see a description of their interests
quincy started flirting with me during the second conversation
yeah, happened with me too. if i werent batting for the other team i'd be swooning admittedly LMFAO
he's easily my 2nd favorite member, dude is GREAT. grew on me way faster than i expected
i like all of the hex ofc but you get what i mean
got it
Bros hurting because he instantly went offline
I love Eleanor Quincy and Amir so much
Bro said imma need to get some air
I hope my pillow is received well, i didn’t know they gave you hints
I used the hints for the others
balls am i right
I feel rushed because of the irl month thing
eleanor didnt like the sticky notes i gave her as the first gift last night
I’ll remember this
I think she’ll like the binder based on her hint
Can you send the same gift repeatedly?
depends
guys after a long time of trying i finally completed the calendar thing, i just launched the missions from the console in the orbiter
every character has a different amount of stock per item
quincy you can send the entrati poster 4 times, aoi you can send the onlyne CD only once
in the computer who is everyone
like broadsword is prolly excal
who r the rest
i think belladona is trinity
yeah, did say for aoi that "she has everything for onlyne already so maybe other audio stuff" when i looked at her thing again
Amir’s name almost entirely spells out volt
soldja is the sniper
glimmer is aoi, salem is eleanor
also you can click on their names and click profile
ah gotcha
and itll tell you
high voltage is prolly volt
love the new backroom hub
like so
noice
also unrelated but how do i change my base of operations back to the orbiter LMAO
i did it by mistake and im like "oh no i miss orbiter"
Click navigation
thank you lmfao
I will need to come up with better fashon but this is cool
Can someone explain what happened in the end of the quest, it looks like everyone was dying and basically us (Drifter) reset the timeline and back to normal, but the disaster (the explosion) will still happen? 🤔
Replay duviri paradox
||Drifter used his time loop power from Duviri to reset things||
now that we have motorbikes on warframe.... i can ask for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpmrQZYwyEM
/jk but it would be really cool-
Look who I bought :3
Yeah I figure that out, so the power is like extending to that world?
Not only in duviri
Yup, mentioned in the post quest email
It was said his loop was altered
I didn't get a email show the mail
Not in game rn
Ooohh damnn🤔, so the things happening in the quest will happen again? And then the drifter can just use the loop power again?
I suspect it's gonna be like duviri
The point is we get kicked back a full year to un-screw up everything
Get to know the Hex to stop... That, from happening
Ohh like that, so there's still a chance to stop the nuke from happening? By bonding with the Hex?
That was said in the quest near the end
That's exactly what Albrecht said at the end yeah
Yay
And maybe giving them weapons or smt
Wait the gifts affect the outcome?
Yes it helps
Damnn😱
lol
||Do we get anything else for completing the “finale” I can’t remember if I got anything or just lore || I was one of the few who got the mission. Before the patch
It’s a habit 😂
You get the bike summon the new frame blueprint and a forma
I’m talking about the last mission that was supposed to be locked behind the syndicate rank
Not the base mission
bought the 1999 complete edition pack
danm it was expensive, atleast got alot of stuff tho
Ttar is talking about the actual finale after you level up the relationships
It was bugged yesterday and some people got to do it early
It’s surreal seeing people walk around with human faces on their frames
does protoframes appear to new players?
I’d imagine so
danm new levels of trolling
I’m just hoping I didn’t get locked out of a reward for getting it done before leveling up
I wish the skins were locked behind the syndicate and not bought though
The only drip that I feel like shouldn’t be bought
I dont remember anyrhing mentioned about that in the forum psa
I was hoping that the infinite loading screen would be fixed in the hot fix
Just had it happen again
Also motocross warframe when (like how Yarelli is the k drive frame)
From what someone else mentioned in another chat i think it might be related to host problems
Help I still can't get over that ending
It gets better
I just wonder if we can save everyone or if some will still fall
Everyone lives
I saw that lol
My next goal is to make soldier boy aka Cyte 09
I call cap
I wonder if im secretly dyslexic
No you just have a thing for “cute-09”
I think Cyte and Excalibur were the only two that went without a fight
They did
Cyte fought the ambush until he got peek a boo by a tank
Aurthur fought a giant infested then died
Arthur fought the parasyte
I gave jade idle to Quincy so he rubs his belly. 
Nah he died of radiation
I’m sure the fight and damage that caused him to not be able to walk didn’t affect him at all
Also Entrati had to have a good mod setup on that lex to one shot volt and drifter
He probably had primed heavy trauma
I was thinking toxin build since it bypassed shields
Wait you could switch your weapons?
I might have missed something, but what does "Custom Decals @ Zevila" mean?
I thought you meant through all of it
I missed my trumna prime the first half
It’s about the bike
Can we get an Thermian RPG as a loadout weapon????
Decals are designs for it I think it was an ARG clue
This shi's too cool to be a mission exclusive
Got it. I finally got around to posting Arthur Kine-ect or what ever and it was angrily beeping at me and finished saying that.
am i supposed to be invisible when i answer the call in "The Lotus Eaters"?
Im killing you
Why was lotus using the phone if she aint even in the plot of 1999
Is it supposed to be like this, that when you apply some of the cosmetics, you can see them, but not others?
Someone didnt pay attention
That’s not a phone
And the quest explains this
ye
What dat tongue do?
Much
Ok thx mate 🙂
a lot
What did the drifter do at the end of 1999? Did he do a thrax reset or smthn?
1999 is a loop similar to Duviri by a year Albrecht apparently made it happen which is why you start back in January
I thought that was a nice detail tbh
Not sure if this is a spoiler or anything but (Not gonna do it for new players)
POM-2 PC background music really is a banger
how come they not released all the music yet?
kinda bummeralso somachorrd songs shuld all be unlocked by default, brother
the ost is out, what do you mean
is it?
but like official?
Yes
yeah, uploaded by warframe
huh, maybe i missed it, well thanx ill check
On all music streaming sites/apps too
god I hate not investing more in mr now. I just did calculations and it will take me 10 days to r5, lr4s will only need 8
where is it on spotify?
I checked yesterday and it wasn't there. Was it uploaded by Digital Extremes, Warframe or one of the composers?
not on keith power's spotify either
OH it's on warframe's spotify
and I just found out the 1999 ost was like almost all matthew chalmers, according to the spotify credits
I only had it happen once today thank god, i was just scared because it was on my first mission
Yesterday it happened like 4 times
doing all the missions solo just to avoid bugs like these lmao
Fight to rank up in the syndicate to give everyone a good ending
and for efficiency ig
Nah I suck at finding the cache keys
really? they're pretty loud AND glow
as long as you know what to look for, it's pretty quick
They’re small
All I hear are kabooms
and again, they make a sound
things aren't always blowing up
With me they are 👉👈
once you see it, it's not that bad
I haven’t seen one yet
well yeah but you're probably not shooting if you're searching for it lol
ok if i may ask
finished 1999 couple of hours ago
someone explain to me why does elanor have the tongue from blade 2 movie
I was in a mission that became a 15 minute survival with a full party because of the keys
Loot radar mods
Is it because of the technocyte infection affecting all of them?
just look around where the safe is, they're nearby and have a blue beam, make sure to remember that sound and you won't have any problems
But robot dog needs those mod slots to be the perfect primer
honestly one of the parts I love about the bounties is that everything, hex treasures included, aren't that hard to find, like you often find it on the way, they make distinct sounds
Her helminth transformation is more advanced than the others'
so it doesn't feel like you're working really hard to find them, and learning the environment still helps since it makes you more efficient and helps you get more stuff that you could've otherwise missed
Then install one on your frame
Interesting... Is that why she technically cannot speak but due to our knowledge of nyx being this psychic manipulator, she just uses telekentic way of speech?
Like basically talking through our brains?
I thought she was fully infested before entrati turned her into a proto frame
yo y'all know what the song is called that plays at the end of the reactor sequence, like after amir gets shot?
I'm looking for it rn, can't seem to find it
And hence why in the end the helminth or the infested tells her that she is their sister?
Even the infested call her their severed sister
None of them were or they wouldn't be partially human
Just Eleanor
Tongue makes talking normally impossible, so she uses her nyx powers instead
Every protoframe were humans
that is true based on what we know with umbra
We know that part
Umbra isn't a protoframe, he's a normal frame
All original warframes were still made from people though
I meant that ^
I mean maybe eleanor was just infected prior and it prorgressed in her a decent amount without fully turning her, and then she was albrechted
If you think about it, warframes are zombie cyborgs ☝️🤓
anyone else got the funny endless loading screen
You hate the oversimplification, but you can’t tell me I’m wrong ☝️🤓
Yes
Like I usually remain chill and go yeah this makes sense lorewise but i got very confused as I thought about this update
like he used ppl who had technocyte infestion
another zombie game smh
Once today and a lot yesterday
Cough cough infested cough cough
We’re only immune because we’re Tenno
tenno isnt really human anymore
One thing cyte tells us (i forgot the guy's name) is that they are part of an international peacekeeping force
(hence more protoframes in the future)
Debatable
Tenno is basically human touched by the void
and the void wants out
proto frames have warframe powers but not on same lvl as warframe
Quincy
The indifference says they’ve given a part of themselves to you in the quest
Tenno are improved humans
They’re void infused children
The void has gotten curious since the time albrich (I have butchered the name) touched and the zariman ten zero void jump was the catalysm that started out trauma
The tenno are what the orokin wished they were
yeah the only weird part is that I htink they play the same as the warframes, no?
yes the tenno are exactly what the orokin wished
not sure if amir is slower or something but it seems like he isn't
Who’s gonna tell her that
Yall know soma right?
i hate doing mercy finishers but arthur is the only one who doesnt like me yet man
I mean it's a nitpick, just a bit weird
The indifference says they gave us the powers to us without asking for anything, but the orokin brutalized the void
Tell that lady we are space ninjas not space elves
thats skyrim
They're limited in how much they can output due to still being partially human
but the advantage is they are sane
and not feral
wich was the issue the warframes had before the tenno
Oh I found it different
the indifference talked as if we cut its flesh
and we in this case I was thinking about the technocyte as the protoframes were technically killing them ya know
Anyone know if the infested faction mods work on the techrot?
aoi gave me mercy finishers right as I was trying to get closer to her, why is she trying to push me away 😔
Who's gonna tell her that at least one tenno has already died
Honestly this feels like Soma
Soma the first "brain scan" was done 100 years ago and it was a test kit used in the "current" timeline that we play as
The orokin brutalized the void by taking parts of it to make void drives, the void decided to empower us itself
Y'all weak for not liking mercy finishers, they're sick
how long ago was the loop? is it like a year until the bomb goes off again or smthn?
So the indifference got mad we took too many of his fingers?
Soooo why does Cyte-09 is able to shoot through 5 buildinds and not a single artic eximus bubble ? Add to this that I do 700 damage on that bubble and it takes 8 billions shots of Netralizer fully build to blow one... Is this a bug ?
or their fingers*
Technocyte is the infestation, techrot is a less advanced form
I’d be pretty angry if I was the void too tbh
mercy finishers is genuinely the worst one to do
We got that main character energy type stuff
and and space dad did seem to imply we aint really easy to kill
that all he can do is send us home
IMPACT status has entered the chat
Who is space dad
balas
i wouldnt call ballas dad
Nah ballas ain't a dad
Space dad being ballas right?
maybe abusive step father at best
He's more like our a-hole stepdad
Yeah ok got it
Ballas couldn’t even handle a woman’s kiss
true he is probly the worst parent to exist
We have no dad, only uncles
All you folks must be young bloods as everyone knows it's teshin that's space dad
W
Teshin is uncle
tenshin can go away
Teshin is more like the cool uncle to me
I like Teshin
L take
i find it funny his undoing was his head gear
disappear
But it wasn’t
Except it wasn't
His headgear actually saved him
Imagine if he wasn’t wearing it
Erra is on a 0/2 for killing dax with his "cool" kill method
Bros head would’ve been like an egg
To be fair, Teshin says he doesn’t know if he died and the void brought him back, or if he survived
Ok if the void is our space father
lotus is our space mother
ballas is our weird step father
and grandpa is hunhow
and grandma was this giant spaceship
oh and our uncle is erra
That's varzia
And he failed to kill her
Ohh I thought it was a random dax
Maybe he should just take the helmets off first
imagine if we found out we are just a copy of the kid in zariman
Bro failed a killing the thirsty dax for real
That’s a theory I’ve seen
Try talking to her and selecting the "erra" option
Haven't done that since she was added lol
like only way to save us was to just make a new body put memories there
But we’re in control of both the drifter and the operator
And the indifference called the drifter kiddo
they are same person
That would make sense
the void is the weirdest omnipotent thing that can give and take life
it has done it with the animals we speak
Problem: we emit void power, we aren't like the holdfasts
think on it like this drifter and operator is same person
The void did actually give sentience to the animals so...
We can just talk about how thirsty varzia is in her comments she makes about teshen
I mean, the animals speak because of the statue, the void gave them human level intelligence
I thought the statue was just there for us to understand them
they already had human or beyond human level intelligence due to being exposed to the void
Like one of them outright states that the difference between us and them is that we're alive
Thats why in the end we would relate with the animals because the animals and us are all voidtouched
The gargoyle only translates
like infestation is wierd sometimes its bad sometimes it seemingly doesnt affect ppl
But don’t they only say Mara lohk without the statue
And they still say it sometimes
I hate Arlo so much
They speak voidtongue
but my biggest question is who the hell does the corpus even trade with
So did (1999 quest spoilers) ||Aoi effectively mag crush her brain to death???||
The gargoyle translates voidtongue
corpus trades within themselves and does what we call in our timeline
crypto
Man i love this bug
wouldnt that make their finances basicly pointless
Quite literally everything including grinner sometimes
Everyone, even grineer
I just have the shadow in random places around the backroom
welcome to every economy ever
Themselves and probably colonies we don’t visit
Pretty much
mag died to extreme usage of her powers
excal died due to rad
volt was shot from the back
cyte died by bomb
nyx was infected and she infected trinity
Nah it was just a regular old brain hemorrhage due to strain
||I think that happens or she broke blood vessels in her brain leading to internal bleeding||
I thought she bursted a blood vessel in her brain from exerting herself so hard
You could also say that she used magnetic powers and we have iron in our blood
kinda like... too much usage she just poofed
Gotcha, wasn't sure what most people thought happened because it wasn't 100% clear lol
you can also say she went to high
Im more curious about nyx having that tongue
You know what I wanna know?
and her body couldnt handle the strain
Why didn’t she turn the main mechanisms into liquid
i am disapointed we cant use it as an alien weapon atk
Instead of fighting the machine
Like they are protoframes
they really cannot do what warframes can (since they are part human and part infested)
it would be a fun mercy kill
you mean squish the bomb?
they are what the orokin wanted to have
Nah the hydraulics that were pulling against her
Why didn’t she just liquify that
its very rare when you think of it for warframes to remain somewhat sane after conversion
Could excuse it as distance + unfamilarity with the ssytem + stressed acting on the fly
Freeky tongue nyx Acton
Because it was needed in complete form
What about when she was stuck under a car
we have 3 out of what is basicly millions
That car looked metal
wait.. mag can liquify metal? am i being silly here?
Aoi can
Look at her in the mall
Actually it might be that that scene was intended to underline the limitations of her power?
I thought she can ya know do magnetic stuff and i mean if its ferroliquid that makes sense
She’s playing around reshaping and liquifying metal
Isnt she just playing with ferroliquid?
Brute force limitation, yeah
But she can reshape not just pull
You mean the fario fluid she is playing with aka liquid metal
nyx be gettin freaky with the hex
like arthur gets nausious if he over use his
Its not ferrofluid, the balls do actually turn solid
She hardens it into cards and uses them
eleanor seems to be the only one whos power is actually close to the warframe equilivent
She also says she’s sorry for Amir’s coins (which are probably part of the liquid metal now)
I need to see aoi's idle animation to see more of her balls and cards
I thought she would just use her powers in those moments to make it a solid
It’s the same object she just changes the shape from ball to cards
like its ferrofluid just her power is strong enough to let it remain as dense and strong as a solid ball or card
hm...
Then why is she apologizing to Amir about the coins
Its not ferrofluid, thats an actual different type of material iirc
It's a practice for power why would he stress when practice useing furo fluid makes sense as it's just broken metal bits with water 💦
Ferrofluid isnt liquid metal
that is true... ferrodluid isnt liquid metal
i mean as long as it has some form of iron in it
she can control things like uhh
I mean with COMPLETE mastery you could just pull the iron out of someone’s blood
But that’s so small I doubt she could grab onto that
She says there’s a lot of metal in your Warframe and not to mess with Arthur
So that implies she could scramble it
At least she believes she can
The ball is liquid
Aio practice on faurofluid makes so much sense as it's a soft formless mass she can control to practice that can be hardened useing her Magnetic ability.
And then hardens into cards she stacks like normal
The ball is solid, it audibly bonks
And she’s sorry to Amir for using his coins
Its actual metal
The liquid ball is just random metal she collected
If they weren’t made into liquid she could just return them
I mean ok if we really go deep
magnetic metal liquids are a real thing
and she can attempt solidification (cooling down particles to the point where they are a solid) hence ball to card to liquid
wait i just remember lotus sent the man in wall back into the void
i wonder if she can do it again
The man in the wall is chillin in 1999
Im not sure what the point here is, if you can make a solid card you can make a solid sphere
Thats what I was thinking really
i was looking at the color of the ball and the card and thought
yeah that could be ferrofluid but again
magnetic metal liquids are a thing (which really just sound the same)
It also visibly moves, and unless solid metal was different before I was born it does not usually do that
The reason why the drifter went to 1999 is because the lotus is preoccupied holding them of in the present, and operator is staying with her
She didn’t he did it on his own
It does need to move in order to be able to be shaped, but im trusting the audio cues on this on
I guess another thing I found odd is
why did the helmith spit us out in front of arthur
how did that even happen?
oh no
Like, last i checked its not wobbling all the time
we were inside arthur
When does it even "bonk"?
Dramatic causality
I mean they spit out a random excal and then Arthur shoved us out of his mind
I mean technically yes we were actually inside arthur
arthur pulled us out of his mind and then nyx constrained us
She even chats with us and tells us that she saw what we know
I like the idea that we’re actually viewing these events from other people’s minds when we’re playing as another character
Connect the dots, there's only two there
The moment excal and arthur's swords touched
1999 and current era space connected
Technically if they were in that nuke loop
not even that from what i take it is 1999 is a seperated timeline
We didn’t see them the first time they died
basicly its the dark sector timeline
Bros just went kaboom
Id aio could just turn anything into liquid metal why didn't she do it on the techorot and just instantly win vs them by melting down there metal bits
That I can agree
and with what cyte mentions in the chatbox (when you flirt with him) the hex being an international peacekeeping militia
that connects to all our frames that we know
I mean maybe it’s hard to do under pressure
Now I only ask myself
is limbo going to a posh rich man who is basically willy wonka?
It’s probably quicker to just shoot an individual then to focus on melting them
When you’re dealing with hordes
i remember the days where limbo players had their fun in mobile defense
I think Aio is limited by her ability usage
they all are actually
nyx is the closest to the techrot
No.
Elenaor does have that infested tongue
remember, every single hex character was worried about nyx going back
as if like nyx loses herself to the hive mind
Devs said that it's directly in the past of our current timeline
I wonder how she eats
imagine if eleanor is the start of the infestation
Ahhh! Thank you for clarifying that
Does the tech rot call her “first sister”
Nah the infestation started from albrietch
No the tech rot calls her the last sister
like the seventh or sixth sister
So even if she’s not the origin she was infected very early on
Something along the lines of that she was one of the most well connected infested but now she isnt
techrot is the precurser its not same as infestation
albrecht makes the infestation but ballas is still responsible for frames correct?
Really?
So techrot is the precursor to infestation...
it seems so
Ballas is responsible for formation of frames
so where is he in 1999? we got people mid transformation to frames
since it showed up before alberneinch
Orokin didn’t make Infestation
showed up
so he should exist at this point
Albrecht either influenced by the void or maybe its the void itself made everything else
They made it with intentions to give earth its life back
In the past, the Infestation was utilized by the Orokin to combat the Sentients. Much of the game's lore is presented in an ambiguous fashion; however it can be inferred that the virus seems to have no prejudices as to whom it affects, be it Grineer, Corpus, robotic or the normal fauna of a planet; only the Tenno possessing void abilities and their Warframes, as well as the Sentients themselves, appear to be truly immune to the technocyte virus. As such, Warframes were often used to quell Infested outbreaks in the past.[2]. Not even the Orokin themselves are immune to it, as shown by the Entrati family, although they managed to keep their consciousness intact through special treatments.
straight from the wiki
so likely it probly was there but since albrecht likely has knowledge wich could help on the current timeline variant
The Infestation predates the Orokin though
Quest Dialogue literally confirms this
Which dialogue??
yes part of the dark past
Remember there were retcons throughout Warframe history
Here is one thing confirmed if I may add
Albrecht did bring the technocyte infection to 1999 (somehow)
like this old man is basically the reaosn for eveything
can be he had spores on him when he went back
Its like Old man 1 vs Older man 2
and we kids are the ones suffering
Lotus: "The Infestation predates the Orokin era, with records of outbreaks dating back to before the Radiation Wars. We must prevent a new outbreak."
Not even somehow, he could’ve just brought a sample
considering deimos state
That makes a lot of sense honestly
Albrecht was going mad in stopping the void even now he killed us for it
It could predate the orokin by technicality due to entrati bringing it back to 1999
Albrecht says multiple times I did things to stop tau
So it really isnt that far from him spreading the infection, starting all this
creating this loop
issue is from wiki it seems he showed up after techrot
the 1999 timeline seems like something albrecht came up with to combat the indifference, cuz there is no reason for frames to exist in a world with no sentients
I mean he said we’d have to know them before we could save them, and then shot us knowing the Tenno can’t be conventionally killed
Now the bigger question comes again
why the hell did the helminth spit us in front of arthur and how
i still dont get that
began not when he came
It’s not a 1999 thing
He might’ve just given us the chance we needed
tazboi it didnt spit us out
It didnt spit us out?
it spitted a warframe out not us arthur ejected us
Yeah but due to retcons it most likely is
☝️this
OHHH You so right!
but we arent really in past
Arthur said get outta my head
we are in a timeloop like durviri
It’s not a retcon it’s giving extra info that was only a guess once
still confused about the proto frames tbh
makes the most sense, drifter did the slam too
Duviri as said by our character
is basically a story from a book taken form
Yes
Drifter apparently doesn’t need to be in the void to alter things now I guess
Literally every single place we go and visit in duviri is from a children's book
which kinda makes sense considering how everything is in that world
checked albreich isnt the maker of techrot he came after that outbreak started
Drifter’s mind recreated the story book into a place in the void
but he didnt make it better
Drifter kinda OP
It would be rlly cool, a bigger and far stronger infested
He literally looped time on earth
Basically... I think now I get it
say our central timeline is us (kiddo)
the duviri paradox is a world made with the void from our mind based in the story we know
(and kiddo connects with drifter aka as you said drifter's mind)
now we have the past that kinda connects to our timeline when the excal spat out the sword connected
affecting arthur because timeywhimy stuff
Not a children book. But a book ment to make your mind child like to cope with nothingness
Oh yes sorry thank you
I feel like drifter is the base timeline and operator is a branching timeline
not exactly
Albrecht said the drifters loop was changed so his loop powers could be affecting 1999 since it has so much void in it
They diverge at whether or not the indifference helps you
operator and drifter are same mind 2 diffrent forms its like being 2 places at once
drifter could shift his own loop in his favour, given time he'll fix 1999
They seem to treat the two as alternate but different versions of you, even the lotus calls you by different names
I think I agree with the idea that albrecht shot us knowing we would never die
the void never dies (literally as if the void is us and we are the void)
so shooting us is relooping everything and keeping 1999 into this eternal loop (if you check the calender on the desktop in the game it just loops jan 1999 again)
But from the new quest they’re treating the two more similarly
He gave us what we wanted, a chance to save the hex
Rare albrecht W?
Yes I agree
the more we interact the more lore we understand
I mean i get it
albrecht is a basically doctor strange
He probably knew time was only looping when we died
it's like how there's a bunch of spiderman(men?)
More like doctor who
not exactly
Doctor who is funny
albrecht is not
they are same person mind and all but at diffrent points of time
Wild how we were able to create a year long time loop
eeeh remember the loop was on
I wonder if drifter’s powers are directly influenced by emotional distress
That is possible
look at harrow
Considering watching everyone die was horrific and clearly got to him
already they died several times they remember it
eternalism anything possible is all true all at once or something, at leat from what I could understand in the new war
likely reason for why albrechts tell us about the bomb for all other loops they tried to stop it and it ends same way
Did you guys chose to shoot the general woman? I chose not to because the whole “weakness of the indifference is love” thing
Like thing of it this way
Tenno does not have the loop powers that drifter has
drifter has the loop powers because of duviri
the drifter being in 1999 helped in forming the loop
but the tenno and the drifter are the same person
u couldn't pretty sure
Was this something from the new war?
Whenever the indifference is involved I’m choosing mercy
1st option "u do it" is telling entrati to do it
You can’t 1v1 that thing
they teach u in the ship school cutscenes
Ok now someone anyone explain me this
whats up with the big boobie russian greineer lady?
and yeah we dont know how many loops there been since time in the void
give u examples
Crap i gotta read those again
i know same questions are asked all over duviri like mcqs
The russian grineer lady ruskala was shifting from loid to her as she was talking to albrecht but also the russian lady herself is the void like what?
Maybe you can't
Bro is like an entire dimension
one is like: girl can push 1 of 2 buttons, one save her mom and kills her dad the other saves her dad and kills her mom.
correct option is both parents live, both parents die
They gave us the power we use the whole game
so it's like considering all possibilites
She kept on talking to us saying kiddo so I know that the russian lady is the void but how did that even happen? We know that albrecht himself is void touched so he has a clone of him too
and even in his own writings in deimos he talks about how the void forms shapes on things it touches
Like if you feed it a rat it forms a void rat
Thats not how being a void entity works
I think the void entity was using her
Interesting...
Void entities aren’t the Void
Yeah i completely forgot all that, gunna have to replay that to see it or maybe just watch a video
albrecht said she is the leak, each loop the indifference leaks into 1999 by getting more and more influence over her
Ohhhh
And I am more than ready to throw hands with a god
We literally learned it’s weakness is love, you’re so cooked bro
that's y she shifts into man in the wall baby tenno form while u r talking with entrati
I love fighting gods
u gave it time to recover by taking over her fully
He’s gonna flatten you, you’re not Kratos
Indeed, I am better
lotus solos
space mom tell us its lunch now
Nah man void aint chill
remmeber how he spooked us before?
void doesnt even pay rent and just says
you owe me
u are the toys in his box
So warframe is basically toy story 6
indiffrence means we are nothing
we mean nothing
the indiffrence isnt acting very indiffrent
i mean it makes sense
albrecht gave us a hint
love is the answer to the indifference
we and the hex are neutral as we dont have a mutual understanding
its like i have no clue who they are
albrecht telling us love is saying learn who they are and you can then save them
But remember the woman he took over said “I’m not normally jealous BUT if I can’t have you nobody can”
can't apply logic to a force that goes beyond space and time
The indifference is becoming anything but indifferent
I am
Incorrect
The indifference is so chill that he has no chill
yeah about techrot he didnt make it it was already there the schelera is basicly an army to keep it contained
The indifference really wants to be our space mom but sadly we have a space mom and a space cousin which is cephalon
but aparently they will fail that job
interesting... yes them failing later on leads to the infection
ultra rich lives maybe turns into orokin etc etc etc
so there was no nuke in original timeline i guess what entrati tried
Listen, if the indifference would call before pulling up to my orbiter I’d happily host, BUT STOP BREAKING IN
And stalker too, not cool man
Indifference doesnt even break in
they just pop in and out
like limbo but without the tear to the void
feel like something somewhere due to the void research or whatever of the orokin gave a consciousness to the void and now it's just trying stuff out, for entertainment? revenge? who knows
Call first geez
So if your window is open I’m not breaking in?
does act somewhat childish so could be like a baby with god powers
stalker is a bro now
dude is just a dad who wants to drink beer and play with his kid and misses his wife
Bro needs to call first
consider this if you had godlike power would there exist anything to make you grow up?
I just realized
I mean... true... i guess youre right i suppose lmao
The orbiter doesn’t have a bathroom
we do
helminth
nor does it have a kitchen
foundary
I don’t know if we NEED to eat to be fair
bold of u to assume the chair has no hole in it
But if you’re on the battlefield you’d want to take a shower
Remember
The helminth really loves us a lot
there is a reason for it
The helminth takes care of all biological functions of the ship
basicly entratis doing would eliminate the early strain of it wich means it couldnt evolve to current day infestation or maybe his nuke caused it to evolve
Because I named him after a bomb movie
Audrey III
You know how there is water where the helminth is
I called my helminth bog
cuz he is a big boy bog
anyone know what happens if you're in a Deep Arch when a hotfix is deployed?
Bro ate my cat and spit it back out
finish the quest and youll be good after
it should save everything
Not cool man
its likely the heimlith gives air
Creative
The helminth does NOT eat dogs, so at least that’s cool
The best part is this
if you have your kubrow helminth and your big helminth
you actually see them interact at times
The helminth is a dog person
It takes care of all biological functions, as ordis himself states
There was a warning somewhere that said to keep your helminth away from kavats
It said nothing about kubrows
mine is named after my stepmom because visually they share many similarities
its more likely the kavat would do what every cat does to plants
10/10 infested aint bad
this is like nurgle being the most cleanest in the warhammer40k world
nurgle is this god of putrid and filth but he is also the kindest as he cares for all and all cares for him
he just doesnt shower
Kavats eat infestation
Your stepmom is a wonderful woman
ill take your word for it ;P
More like builder blob
I named my helminth rumpelstilzchen
top ten things to name your helminth
builder bob
bog
audrey III
someones stepmom
rumpelstilzchen
does anyone know if the infamous epilogue of 1999 quest is standing-locked, or is it anything else ?
btw is the hex the only quest we got? or if u get max rank with them u get to retry? or we have to wait for the loop to reach 31 dec again? or is it a stall thing till the next part gets released like how loid was working on kalymos sequence for 1 year
This is the top 4 now 5
and the only thing i used it for was to give saryn bloom and watch my spore spread all over map
its fun to see map die at once
i have no idea honestly
hex is the only quest technically
like hex is the only quest release and the rest is a whole new standing and such etc etc
Installing archon shards
and lore dumping ofc
oh my wisp got power ones
i got low duration low range effiency but with buffs about 500% ability strenght
interacting with kalymos says get higher rank to retry the disaster, entrati also said for that u have to know them before shooting the drifter
i had fun soloing the durviri wyrm with wisp
I have a full set of red tauforged archon shards on my wisp
next year we will get infested liches which is that small area in the hollvenia (like youll see this red area in the spot)
it couldnt kill me with aoe even
so I wonder if it's in the game just locked behind standing or they have to add it
So max rank plus gotta romance everyone
ok time to start a harem
They delayed liches
considering we havent even had a quest relating to them yet
i dont think romance is a requierement, since you can't romance all of them at once
it makes sense
I already had to turn Quincy down
Oh crap you right
but like atleast "understand" them i suppose
Bro was invested on the SECOND time we texted
yes so I'm wondering if there's more to the quest right now or not
imma be friend with everyone of them still, but i need to make my choice between arthur and eleanor
Like how I bymistakenly told arthur i love the onlyve music and man just straight up ignored me and dupped
Ask yourself
infested tongue and a geralt grunt (arthur does that have grunt)
I wonder if that would impact anyone’s decision
the majority after seeing arthurs sister
the nightingales have some good genetics man
think the romance mechanic is just for fun, they said u could reset it if u mess it up real bad
I think there is
since we are trying to save them all
but cant be sure until a dev stream so maybe ask during the stream or a dev short
so not much consequences
also like its not really romance just a kiss a date
Fam nightingales either have grunting hot man or a semi latina lady with tongue physics
nothing else
That. Does not make it easier to choose.
lol
If anything that just moved arthur up on my list
I wish you could take your romance partner out on missions instead of a sentinel
leticia does look great too, and Aoi during the quest was heartbreaking
Honestly first time i was listening to arthur I realized he is basically geralt in the future
Bounties
Geralt "Titus, get me the 50"
I meant in the origin system
I could really be like doctor who, bringing my companion out of their time
they gave the hot one the frame wich now is better if you dont look at the several map wiping frames
that's too messy, it's already barely making sense idk how it would work to pull them out of the loop
Once you break the loop
maybe
Like in terms of "interactions"
aoi has a bubbly and sweet personality
amir is energy infused
cyte is lowkey chill guy
arthur is grunt geralt
elanor is most likely a yandere
leticia is hard working but nice
however, what i'm intrigued about now, is how DE tied everything together, between the Zariman (void angels chants in musics), Duviri, Tau, implying Lotus' music, and probably Hunhow's implication in the future
The doctor also never brings the companions to their own future so...
i hope we get to see more Holdfasts charcater developpement
My Hex partner who is 1000 years older than me couldnt be this cute
the anime
Eleanor is just curious
I’m going to destroy you
Ohh this is a good connection!
She is but also she really really really is ok with murder
like elanor is your typical yandere
i mean hell she has the tongue for it
but was your ex an infested ?
Ok. She's a soldier.
To be fair Aoi talks about you killing people during missions
Eleanor also is the only one who really dug into our mind and knows what we actually saw and felt
It’s just that elenaor switches between empathy to none in a second
“Aww it’s scared, kill it.”
👁️👄👁️ okay then
also, i need a clarification
No when I say she is ok with murder
i mean most of the hex werent really ok with everything
even this mission to them was suicide (as cyte said how he is out of the mission)
but nyx was ok with going into the technocyte and becoming "one" and kinda just losing her sense of self
Albrecht went to Tau after the quest right ?
Did he?
(he's no better than ballas, that said)
Tau is in sight
I think that’s a guilt thing
Tau is in sight yes
now what is tau again? someone tell me
he wanted us to come with him, but we didn't, and then he disappeared
He got the hex killed in the nuke
so i assumed he went to tau
sentient home-system now
zariman destination originally
Hm...
hint on the next possible mega update?
We visit the sentient home-world?
Fun Fact: The Arthur and Amir skins are compatible with Umbra and Volt Prime's respective prime details.
albrecht was upfront about the hex being disposable from the start, he never even pretended to be friends with them
Finally we get to see space mom's home
and finally get grandpa love cuz hunhow is still our grandpa
I hope so, considering we still have things to do wiwth Lotus, Loid and the cavia now
Tau seems to be a fair follow up
And then we said “nah, these guys chill asf”
Same works for trinity, nyx and mag too right?
I've tried 2 of the three, and no they aren't.
That said, the drifter keeping Dominus powers was not on my bingo card
Now here comes the bigger kicker
Albrecht isnt bad
he isnt good either
he has one aim in mind and that is to kill the void
IF we are the void, there is a chance he will kill us in the end of warframe
i was wondering for days why the hell we had to do Duviri, which at the time was a SECONDARY quest
Drifter keeping dominus powers make sense actually
He's Orokin after all
And using them on earth
That’s the main thing
Dominos is Drifter's emotion manifested right?
I thought the powers were void exclusive
he gave Dominus powers back to save teshin tho
Duiviri was his creation so he had control over it
Duviri was made entirely with the drifter and the void was the catalyst for it
But turns out nah, he’s a straight up reality warper
It would be a shame to kill Albrecht, but we have to finish the Orokin genocide in order to bring the Origin System its long needed peace.
But now he’s showing that power on earth
you take the powers back at the end of every duviri loop when you fight the orowyrm
honestly, i think he was able to use it in 1999 because it was already a loop
Bro extended the loop to a whole year
That’s not within the frame of the loop
I feel like he can only edit loops on death tho
he sacrificed everything in 1999, seemingly got rid of the Indifference at the moment, only to get a free pass to Tau
Probably why alb shot us
Now i'm wondering what the hell could be worth Sun's destruction and time travel
To go to TAU
Remember
albrecht killing us was to help us not harm us
in a way albrecht is one of the two things
He knows the void will always mess with him, so he can never answer us honestly and truthfully
he leaves crumbs and bits and we kinda just go with it
its as if like he isnt even letting himself know what he is doing
The sentients make really good pasta
Like REALLY good
I bet they do
manifest destiny is heck of a drug
Like think of it
the way albrecht speaks is through pain and stress
like gritted teeth as if trying to break free
they do have kind farmers too (im looking at you, granddad hunhow)
Bro had all of his morals tested
Well, he did sort of have his brain broken by an eldritch entity beyond space and time
Bro is master rank infinity
but I feel like the man in the wall is trying to tell us It can't leave Albrecht alone, for what the Orokin did to its finger
The drifter keeps going NG+
It doesnt help said entity is inside him as the entity is inside us too
Its like the moment albrecht touched that damn finger
the world shattered
Albrecht should just hug it like we did, easy GGs
thats why you dont touch a dead man's finger
MitW showed a lot of anger during the Zariman part in the quest, while putting us in a position where we werre the only ones to take the deal fairly
Albrecht won’t be safe until he learns compassion
Now here is an even more bigger question
how was the man in the wall contained in the first place?
Who did that?
I feel like he keeps feeding the void negative thoughts
Think of it
the man in the wall is technically not even entirely free but is able to cause this much insanity
