spoiler-chat

[woeful patio]

He deserves more shots.

[tawny bolt]

Maybe? It not a long quest so i reset

[shrewd lotus]

thats the best pizza

[woeful patio]

Someone call entrati he forget a tenno.

[shrewd lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/955782924375031838/1149382913658462298/tuh.gif

[steady kayak]

feels like a softlock, theres nothing else thats interactable and the wiki implies it progresses automatically

[tawny bolt]

It will. Just shut the game off and redo

[woeful patio]

Also le and eleanor death was the most... Idk disappoiting

[shrewd lotus]

i didnt understand it ngl

[woeful patio]

I loved eleanor bossy pose but idk it felt like " LE TF YOU DOING SHOOT HER!"

[tawny bolt]

Knew that where it was headed though.. but i feel trust in each other is how they overcome it second time around

[shrewd lotus]

loved how lettie said the b word to eleanor xd

[tawny bolt]

Yeap

[woeful patio]

I think the next quest Will involve the zariman again

[shrewd lotus]

some people were able to play it

[tawny bolt]

Maybe. They might deal with narmer finally too

[shrewd lotus]

we could ask them

[woeful patio]

Wait what??

The rest of quest is already finished???

[tawny bolt]

?

[shrewd lotus]

they accidentally released the uncomplete quest that came after this one

[tawny bolt]

Ohhh

[woeful patio]

Did we dropkick wally?

I rlly want to do it.

[shrewd lotus]

some people played it but they did a post here saying that if thwy wanted to get thw full experience they can contact support to delete that progress and replay it

[shrewd lotus]

idk i got late to try it out xd

[woeful patio]

He turned the bossy scaldra mom on my operator

It cut my moment.

[shrewd lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/955782924375031838/1149382913658462298/tuh.gif

[meager vale]

Like with this right here im guessing we once we get enough chemistry with the hex we'll be able to do it

[shrewd lotus]

idk if having that

but yes u can kiss them

[woeful patio]

Its my time to get freaky with the simblings ehhe.

I mean. .

Must check out if they are fine. You know just making sure.

[shrewd lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/kimmoli-gif-25370538

[night grail]

The great despair hits differently after the quest

[supple dagger]

i’m scared

[woeful patio]

Get close to arthur and ask him:"wanna ser my ember heirloom fashion?." Done

[meager vale]

Honestly the most brutal death in my opinion was aoi's

[woeful patio]

Date simulator speedrun

[steady kayak]

any prior prep needed for The Hex or do you start from new like in duviri?

[woeful patio]

Eleanor and le died by trust, quicy accepted its death, aoi... She died scared begging for company by her leader, died with brain explosion, arthur died as a man and by radiation, amir... He just wanted to help

On tier list of character death depression, amir and aoi are having the most epic fight .

But sincerely, they all could survive if they had shieldgate, what a mistake on their builds.

[meager vale]

Im just waiting for the full on like end of the quest or well play it again of the sorts from what it seems though i definitely noticed that the drifter kept his like time ability thingy idk what to call it

Also real or if they had a ton of oversheilds

[blazing flume]

Did entrati just headshot me while flexing his lex prime

Or am i tripping

[meager vale]

Yes yes he did

[wary scroll]

Can anyone else not talk to Nihill in his Oubliette in the Backroom?

[empty storm]

lmao, amir's responses being 5 messages in under half a second made me laugh

[meager vale]

Technically i have two kalaymos in my backroom since my kavat looks like her too😭

[winged ridge]

waiting for my game to clean up the download cache, but was wondering if theres anyway to make the orbiter we always spawn in the backroom? like when i first login

[fading current]

Ha SAME

[wary scroll]

On the PC you need to click Backroom

[winged ridge]

the backroom is so cool

ah damn, wish i could just autospawn in the backroom 🙏

such a cool area

[wary scroll]

You can

[winged ridge]

oh?

[wary scroll]

One second I need to exit out of decorate

[winged ridge]

no worries 👍

[wary scroll]

Pause Menu > Pom-2 PC > Map > Backroom

[subtle berry]

hmm it's hex birthday but clicking "send a message" doesn't really do anything, shows their profile :/
nvm seems to be a bug, was lettie's bithday and showed up properly once I went orbiter

[winged ridge]

oh my god thank you!! ill give it a try once my game is done cleaning its download cache, im so happy that its possible

the backroom is such a cozy area

[wary scroll]

You can also color the walls and floors

[winged ridge]

yoooo

[wary scroll]

And remove the decor that's there by default

[winged ridge]

oh my god it keeps getting better

love DE

Also aoi best girl

[wary scroll]

Wrong, Arthur is clearly the best babygirl. Amir is a close second

[winged ridge]

oh i 100% get that, arthur is a close 1st

aoi and arthur, then i think amir is my 3rd favourite?

[night grail]

Eleanor

[winged ridge]

DE absolutely nailed every character imo

i dont usually buy stuff but i think i might actually buy the gemini skins, also imma probably buy mag prime with the platinum i get from the pack

[wary scroll]

I swear there was an Entrati floof at some point I need to to put him here

I really hope I was just imagining it and it's not a limited time thing

[winged ridge]

btw, am i imagining things or is what it says when you interact with kalymos pretty much saying to improve the relationships with everyone and then replay the quest and get the "true ending"

[wary scroll]

You're not

[winged ridge]

oh my god thats so cool!

[woeful patio]

Yes he did

We get 1 tap with a lex prime

[wary scroll]

Entrati is a founder. Do you think he turns Arthur into his Excal Prime

[woeful patio]

Nah

[wary scroll]

Ignore the edits I'm fist fighting my phone autocorrect

[amber terrace]

How do I view my friendship progress with the Hex? Not the syndicate, but the romance/friendship system

[woeful patio]

Show them your wisp or ember heirloon

[wary scroll]

On the PC messaging tab, there should be mini profiles that pop up when you click on the DMs of the members

[amber terrace]

Is there a progress bar I can look at?

[wary scroll]

It'll be in writing

[subtle berry]

see Chemistry section in the update notes for all the options

[blazing flume]

He js shot me again

[raw ferry]

How do you talk to characters in the dating sim again after first talk?

[wary scroll]

Like, "Arthur and I seem to be in a neutral relationship" as an example

[subtle berry]

in the PC thing, bottom section should have 3 things, if not go orbiter, seems a bit buggy with showing KIM

[wary scroll]

Wait a day maybe? They didn't refresh after the daily reset so maybe it's tied to real time or on its own timer

[silk galleon]

it doesn't show up when you're at the pc next to the bounties board not for me atleast

[wary scroll]

Yeah, you have to go to your home/orbiter

You can't do it in the mall

[subtle berry]

backroom also works, faster loading too probably

[amber terrace]

Follow up krestion: is there a cap to how much non chat chemistry progress I can earn in a 24 hour period? Doesn’t doing the bounties grant chemistry with the Hex that tags along?

[wary scroll]

Also does anyone know if the glowing gold text that shows during the DM messages mean affinity was gained?

[subtle berry]

update notes mention it's once per day for bounty, look there for details (also you need to've talked to them on KIM beforehand)

[amber terrace]

Welp looks like I’m doing face off then

I just can’t find any lobbies for SP face off and it’s pretty annoying

[wary scroll]

Ahhh I tried to open the patch notes on Firefox mobile and the page keeps crashing my browser

Also does the Techrot count as infested or it's own faction as far as faction mods are concerned

[graceful zodiac]

It's a separate strain

[wary scroll]

So it has a separate faction mod?

[graceful zodiac]

Still Infestation, just another variety

[wary scroll]

Doesn't answer my question I'm afraid

Unless you mean to say they still technically count as infested in terms of code

I bought Baro's infested mod for shotgun this morning and I really hope I didn't impulse buy it for nothing

[empty storm]

I think there's something screwy going on with the embedded media, it nuked my internet when I loaded it and the network traffic was the same videos reloading and reloading and reloading and reloading and reloading

[silk galleon]

probably the original strain of the infested or atleast a strain that came before the strain the orokin recreated

[wary scroll]

That still doesn't answer my question, I'm not talking about lore

I mean if I use the mods that increase the damage against infested will it work on the Techrot or no

[silk galleon]

just scan them and check the codex

[silk galleon]

or just check the codex and find out that they're a new faction

[subtle berry]

says "Faction: Techrot"

[wary scroll]

Sighs

[subtle berry]

Faction: Scaldra is also another

[arctic ginkgo]

are atomicycle skins only bought with platinum?

[fading current]

Yes

[arctic ginkgo]

alr ty 🙏

[meager vale]

RELL IN 1999?? JUST LIKE LISTEN REAL CLOSE

[meager vale]

If thats the case I wanna techrot nidus

[graceful zodiac]

Not Rell, just Wally

[meager vale]

True but i thought of rell immediately

[onyx shore]

anyone else crashing when trying to view the ti-92 codex?

[river scarab]

Just curious but can you romance all the hex at once?

[flat magnet]

You can be friendly with all of them but I think you can only properly romance one

[wary scroll]

Are bounties bugged at the moment or do they sometimes infinitely load

[river scarab]

Ok. So I can raise my chemistry with everyone but I can only pick one?

[whole ivy]

Soooo we lost, but Drifter loaded a previous save? That about the extent of what happened here? 😂😂😂

[flat magnet]

I think so

[flat magnet]

Pretty much

And the hex are aware about it

[blazing flume]

Why does entrati like shooting me

[polar bear]

Oh this might be a better chat to ask lol. Whats the best status for these new mobs?

I’ve tried corrosive and it seems to do the trick

[blazing flume]

Corrosive heat build

Or js corrosive

[polar bear]

Corrosive W

[blazing flume]

Heat just removes even more armour

[polar bear]

Right

I wonder if Radiation works as good too, I’ll have to dable and see

[blazing flume]

Back in my day, we didnt have this “viral hunter munition” all we had was our corrosive kuva zarrs and bramnas

[polar bear]

Ah

[raw island]

How do i unlock the ship with the scanner?

I think i said this in the wrong channel

[arctic ginkgo]

one of the syndicate thingies are stuck under some decoration lol

[open vault]

JUST FINISHED IT

OH MY GOD

I have so many questions

[hollow pebble]

Did the wf 1999 quest achieve nothing? Also it looks like the drifter can turn any time he's in into a paradox right? Since you see the durviri swirls in the end.

[open vault]

Aoi's was so messed up jesus

[open vault]

I wouldnt say it didnt achieve nothing. If WITW is A New Hope, 1999 is clearly Empire Strikes Back and the end of the story with the Hex being saved and Wally defeated will be next year

[whole ivy]

So….canonically we are stuck in 1999 completely, and not present in the Origin System at all? Right? I know we can go back and forth or whatever but that is just gameplay mechanics, storywise we’re stuck in the 1999 loop, correct?

[hollow pebble]

The operator is in the origin system

Drifter is not

[whole ivy]

Speaking of the Operator, I heard that they were doing some character model upgrades for them? did that happen yet? Or did I hear wrong?

[hollow pebble]

I haven't look at the operator so I would not know

[open vault]

They just wanted to know our feedback about it. If/when it happens it'll be next year

[polar bear]

Do the choices matter,

Co I hate moments like this…

[rancid solar]

I'm a 90s kid and I LOVE that your icon is pixelated to look like the old chatrooms

[whole ivy]

Determines who you play as for the next mission.

[polar bear]

Oh nice

[whole ivy]

And that’s the extent of that choice afaik

[rancid solar]

yea you play as all of them regardless I think, it's just the majority IIRC

[whole ivy]

Uh….where is Hollvania on Navigation?

[rancid solar]

use the computer to the right of navigation

[tight pagoda]

Everyone is playable at some point besides Mag

And Volt maybe

I chose Volt so idk

[crystal harness]

🤔

this flashes on the clock behind the drifter right after they trigger the rewind

[winter nacelle]

Guys.. I just finished the mission.. And

[open vault]

Wrote these down cuz theres a lot to unpack

How did Drifter know it was a loop when she arrived? If it's because of the end of the quest she didn't make it seem like she knew it would go bad.

What rules did Wally break that made Albrecht and Drifter stuck in 1999?

Was Rusalka Wally all this time, or did he just took over her in that moment?

What is it about Y2K that makes Wally so powerful?

Why is Aoi so hot?

[balmy storm]

What’s the second one???

[raw island]

I like the computer music in the backroom

[winter nacelle]

There's nothing better than having an existential crisis with the music of the backstreet boys in the background

[open vault]

FR

[rancid solar]

yea DE crushing our hearts in their fist there

[winter nacelle]

Im literally sitting in front of my tv and... Nothing i cant

Just i cant

[rancid solar]

yea grinning like an idiot for me at the start, jaw hit the floor at the end

[open vault]

I cant stop thinking about Albrecht's line about Tau

We're so getting Tau

[rancid solar]

yea... also why did that infested boss make me think that might be a lead up to the infested nemisis system? probably the three phase health bar like the Liches

then again we did learn that the Orokin were obsessed with getting to Tau

[flat magnet]

New coda murmur?

[rancid solar]

plus in New War didn't the plot towards the end involve blowing up the sun to get to Tau? and what's a nuclear reactor going critical but a miniature star?

[tight pagoda]

1. This might not have been the first loop, just the first one we, the player interact with (not sure tbh)

2. Something to do with Rusalka which leads me into point 3

3. Rusalka’s a real person who Wally is possessing over time, and she seems to be his main point of entry into 1999– as Albrecht said, with each loop she loses control and MITW gains it

4. Still unclear (to me, at least)

5. Every single character in this update is hot

[flat magnet]

Wasn’t it already implied to be a loop in whispers?

[rancid solar]

I think the first loop was a while ago, that's why Drifter said that wally is messing with the loop

[open vault]

I felt so bad for the Legacyte

[rancid solar]

somewhat related note, ever since I stared playing Warframe back in the beta I nicknamed Nyx 'Excaliber's sister' guess that holds true now

[flat magnet]

He might’ve stopped continuity but he’s still an orokin through and through

[open vault]

1. It certainly does seem like it isnt, and Drifter does know the event is looping, but idk the way its presented makes it seem like its the first time she loops or else she'd know everything that was about to happen?

2. That makes sense. Also poor Rusalka. Also shes mommy frfr

3. IKR

[winter nacelle]

I need a chair I can't process what I just saw

[rancid solar]

[open vault]

SPEAKING OF CHAIRS

I did a leo dicaprio meme during that scene

[winter nacelle]

Lmao

[open vault]

Need a chair glyph

[rancid solar]

why did they have to make Aoi's eyes go red when she fell? was bad enough seeing it happen but that detail was brutal

[open vault]

Omg right?

[winter nacelle]

That chase sequence felt so mgs1

[open vault]

Aoi best girl

[open vault]

Best part of the quest

[winter nacelle]

Her brain and eyes went pop

She couldnt withstand her own powers

Oh also them using their skills was amazing

[rancid solar]

I half expected them to go full warframe as their powers consumed them or something... nope

[flat magnet]

I started shooting the convoy instead of Rusalka because I assumed it was another enemy truck

[winter nacelle]

But how did volt died? It was entrati who shot him? Or it was the radiation?

[flat magnet]

Entrati

[rancid solar]

with a lex prime, in the reactor room

[winter nacelle]

So

[left mortar]

Okay is there a guide or rundown on the chemistry system

[winter nacelle]

Quincy got blasted

leticia got eaten by eleanor

Eleanor???

Arthur: radiation

Amir: shot

Aoi: internal bleeding and organ malfuntion

[flat magnet]

Eleanor turned infested mind
Lettie Killed by Eleanor
Quincy by tank
Mag brain exploded because she couldn’t handle the pressure holding the piston things back
Arthur rad poisoning
Amir shot

[tight pagoda]

3. I hope we can cure her

4. Once she showed up in that interrogation scene I couldn’t stop barking

[flat magnet]

Should be in the patch notes unless you’re looking for specifics

[keen charm]

Guys whom should I pick when elanor asks

[rancid solar]

Drifter: Groundhog Day

[left mortar]

I was looking for specifics

I'll just wait for people to make a wiki page

[flat magnet]

As in the specific gifts / convo guides?

[winter nacelle]

Drifter: death by time loop

[tight pagoda]

There’s 70 pages of patch notes apparently

[left mortar]

Wait what how did I miss these

[rancid solar]

also when in one year do we need to do this again? since the callendar is January 6th... clocks ticking, get that warframe dating sim going

[tight pagoda]

Within the forums itself maybe

[open vault]

Theres a node called Rusalka so maaaaaaybe she lives on in some way to Orokin times?

[gilded cedar]

Now I'm thinking if Tau is possibly a system Wally has already taken over

[worn hazel]

Damn the newest mission was actually sad

Eleanor a bit freaky tho

[left mortar]

Oh that explains it, I just read the launcher notes

[flat magnet]

Because that’s not available yet it’s way too early otherwise the general stuff is covered in the patch notes

[tight pagoda]

There’s a sequel quest that can’t be accessed yet (you need max rank with them, some players got it early as a bug)

[left mortar]

Naw details on points n such

[keen charm]

Does the "who's on point?" Affect the game in any way

[open vault]

Is Wally even tied to the Origin System like we are? I dont see how he'd even have trouble getting to another solar system so yeah maybe

[tight pagoda]

Chooses who you play as for the bulk of the remaining quest

[flat magnet]

Nope

[worn hazel]

No just who you get to play as

[rancid solar]

oh! okay, I know Entrati was saying we can save them if we KNEW them

[gilded cedar]

Wally starts getting tied to the Origin System, kudos to Ballas making a huge Void portal with the Sun

[tight pagoda]

Yep that’s the point of going back further I think

[flat magnet]

I’m worried because ik whoever managed to access it is itching to spoil it rn

[worn hazel]

I need someone to make a updated warframe lore video so I can finally understand what happened 😭

[left mortar]

Who are you all romancing

[rancid solar]

also 1999 was way different than I remember. I was playing N64 when the clock hit midnight

[flat magnet]

Eleanor as payback for Arthur stabbing my hand

[rancid solar]

I like the texting you can do with Hex

[left mortar]

Same idea, different person. I'm going for Aoi because Arthur stabbed my hand

[flat magnet]

I’m gonna kiss his sister and there ain’t nothing he can do about it

[flat magnet]

Somehow that’s more evil

[left mortar]

I was originally gonna romance him but he ruined it

[rancid solar]

I just wanna hang out wwith Amir

[flat magnet]

Imma look at him too whilst I do it

[left mortar]

Amir is funny asf like they nailed his character

[open vault]

I didnt and im itching to know 😭 has the grind so far been a lot or is it just like the other syndicates

[gilded cedar]

Well it's actually a tough choice. Each member of the Hex has a personality and a backstory that only asks to be seen, the closer we grow to them and we can bond with them in this looping era of time and-ELEANOR BY A LANDSLIDE

[winter nacelle]

Wow, now that I look at it like this, my drifter doesn't look so bad

[rancid solar]

also calling it now, given one of the chats with Amir. give him some coffee and he'll dodge that bullet

[flat magnet]

It’s too early to tell tbh, like a lot of players are rank 2 now but r4 requires you to be good friends with all the members before getting to it

[open vault]

Right

[left mortar]

It’s even more evil the fact I don't like girls, but that bastard has it coming

[left mortar]

HOW

Mine looks like trash

[potent chasm]

so somehow one the rewards thru the KIM calendar was skipped is that a bug?

[winter nacelle]

Interestingly enough she look awful outside cutscenes

[left mortar]

Mine looks like decent until you look really closely

I use a beard to cover the fact his face looks like garbage, but the beard doesn't look too out of place

I'd get a photo but I’m too lazy to get out of bed 💀

[winter nacelle]

Lmao

[open vault]

My Drifter fits pre and post 1999

That backroom lighting makes the hair too bright smh

Also i noticed the eyes got way too dark this update? Had to use a brighter green and pink on the 99 fit

[left mortar]

Also BACKROOMS ARE SICK

[open vault]

LOVE that new hairstyle

[open vault]

IKR

[left mortar]

I've already moved all my decorations out of my orbiter and into the backrooms

THEYRE WHAT THE DORMIZOMES SHOULDVE BEEN AUGHHHH

[gilded cedar]

That's not how I thought the level 0 looked like x)

[river tangle]

Was that the ending like is it just over or is there more story stuff i just finished it

[left mortar]

There's more you gotta rizz ppl up to unlock it

[river tangle]

Really

[winter nacelle]

Its a shame that we cant sit

[left mortar]

I can't believe I just said that sentence

[left mortar]

Yes

[sage pond]

how are the infested about spread into technology in 1999? I mean the reason they are able to infest technology is due to Alad V but Entrati (persumably) escaped to 1999 before Alad V was even born

[open vault]

Love her sm

[open vault]

Didnt Albrecht bring a strain of the Infestation with him? It's probably bc of him

[left mortar]

I thought it was made by the in universe digital extremes

[river tangle]

We need more aoi content

Shes so sillllyyyyy

[open vault]

We dont know when Albrecht made it to 1999 too, couldve been shortly before or during the other quests (i think)

[left mortar]

To make better video game ai or smth?

[open vault]

My beloved

[river tangle]

Wait does the backrooms work like the orbiter

[left mortar]

YES

[river tangle]

OMG REALLY

[left mortar]

ITS AMAZING

[open vault]

Ye

[river tangle]

SO YOU CAN DECORATE IT???

[open vault]

Its so good

[left mortar]

YEA

[open vault]

Yes

[left mortar]

AND DO MISSIONS AND STUFF

Finally moved out from space mom and found an apartment. Miss ordis tho

[open vault]

The foundry station there is so pretty

[river tangle]

Wait but can you switch it to your main like area like you can with the earth camp thing

[left mortar]

Yes

[river tangle]

How

[graceful zodiac]

they were always able to get into tech. Alad made them much more efficient

[open vault]

Wait rly???

[left mortar]

Go to the pom2 console and hit “Switch to backrooms”

Or maybe it just says backrooms

[river tangle]

Pom2 console?

[left mortar]

Computer

The 1999 demo computer thing

[river tangle]

Oh ok

[left mortar]

I'm never using my orbiter or the camp again

Like this is so much better

[open vault]

Atomicycle mounting animation is so badass

[steep totem]

Merulina syandana be like WHEEEEEEEE

[gilded cedar]

Imagine buying a 275 Platinum Deluxe bundle just to use a piece of armor from it

I wish the Etheria armor was better accessible

[river tangle]

Wait is the atomicycle in like normal free roam missions too

[finite nexus]

I like the idea of giving us an incentive to continue playing after a quest, I just hope DE doesnt make it a habit to end quests like this one on a somewhat cliffhanger and make us grind to get an ending.

[arctic ginkgo]

i bullet jumped off the domestik drone and it exploded 💀

[flat magnet]

Yeah

[keen charm]

guys whats the current best way to grind hex standing

[tender pine]

like any other hub with a syndicate (zariman/albrecht's lab), extermination missions tbh

[flat magnet]

SP bounties

[tight pagoda]

Yeah theres a SP bounty right now for 9k standing and it can be done in 5 minutes

[tender pine]

how efficiently you level up also depends on your standing cap tbh. do as many missions as you want, but your skill capped at whatever your MR is

[open vault]

rip lil buddy

[gritty flume]

what i don't get about techrot is, their head is the tv?

[past dagger]

he was probably there years ago like 1990

[shrewd lotus]

@dense kite so about the entrati thing

[dense kite]

yes

[shrewd lotus]

he said that she was like a gateway for the murmur

the murmur was getting into 1999 from her

even tho we later saw that was not true and there were more vesels

[dense kite]

right but she also transformed into wally.

[shrewd lotus]

yup thats why

[dense kite]

ah so entrati and us arent the only vessels

[shrewd lotus]

she was being used to manifest himself into that year

[dense kite]

the plot thickens

[shrewd lotus]

yup theres more stuff from the future that gets into 1999

even more now with the loop which linked it with the future

[thick jolt]

the longer i interact with the pom the more i want its version of the great despair for my ship

[past dagger]

think back to the quest with loid the man in the wall took entratis form because of loids resentment and wally took loids form because of the unresolved feelings entrati has

[wanton phoenix]

we need DE release a lofi version of it

[past dagger]

now you have to wonder where is the source for russalka

[wanton phoenix]

heck maybe a full blown lofi album

[shrewd lotus]

im more intrigued about the voice in the end

indifference

[dense kite]

right which is why we see him again in this update to show that wally was trying to manipulate entrati

so in 1999 were doing the same thing as sanctum but instead of solving loid were solving entratis... kinda

[past dagger]

I think the real russalka is dead, or hidden

[solemn glacier]

Wanna ask about the new update, it said here kill 0/10 eximus, but when I kill them it doesn't count? The calendar quest thing

[past dagger]

yeah sort of

[shrewd lotus]

the man in the wall knows everything from everyone so it uses their deepest fear to manipulate them

the thing is that entrati is smart

[dense kite]

i dont think weve found out ours right? we still dont know what deal we made with him at the ship

[shrewd lotus]

so thats why he doesnt let himself get manipulated xd

[shrewd lotus]

the deal was to survive the void taking the powers from the indifference

[flat magnet]

Gotta wait till r5 unfortunately

[shrewd lotus]

and the counterpart of not taking the deal was being trapped in duviri for manifestating our emotions

aparently the indifference will take a bigger role now that it wants her powers back

[thick jolt]

not the one in aoi's store
the one you hear when interacting with the pom2

[flat magnet]

Oh just the beat?

[thick jolt]

yeah i think it's perfect for just leaving on loop in the ship

[flat magnet]

It’s a nice song and it isn’t cheesy without the lyrics

[dense kite]

ah ok

[dense kite]

yeah, it was mentioned when we went back to zariman on the 1999 update. so basically trying to eliminate warframe in entirety since the reason we came to be was by using the void. i wonder how that would play out

[shrewd lotus]

well its been constantly said

we end as we begin

im feeling it will go around something like that

[dense kite]

just to be clear, the end of campaign stopped after seeing their deaths, or once we have all relationships maxed out theres a continuation for the campaign or we will have to wait for another update?

[past dagger]

the drifters reality altering and temporal manipulation seem to what we took from wally

[shrewd lotus]

something that left me wondering what the xata fass xata

but i forgot what fass meant xd

[tight pagoda]

I think the latter

[shrewd lotus]

so i only know it was truth something truth

[tight pagoda]

TRUTH CHAOS TRUTH

[shrewd lotus]

oh okok

[tight pagoda]

I think

[dense kite]

ngl, that part was dope

[tight pagoda]

Either that or Truth Order Truth

[past dagger]

i bet you the drifter will take wallys place in whatever throne they're on

[shrewd lotus]

atm just that but some already played the second quest

[shrewd lotus]

na order was another one

[dense kite]

ah, then i need to figure out how to get back to the mall. idk why i left

[tight pagoda]

Yeah they accidentally made it available for completion

[shrewd lotus]

vome is order

[dense kite]

oh, nvm. found it

[tight pagoda]

The terminal next to navigation, which had the Demo

If you choose the Backroom option it also lets you load into that in future sessions (like Drifter Camp)

[shrewd lotus]

oh also im sure this will have a role in the future

[dense kite]

just found it lol.

[shrewd lotus]

decay, x, void, order, truth, form

thats what was in the screen at the end

in the form of the requiems bte

[tight pagoda]

Yeah I wonder what the X is meant to be

New Requiem?

[shrewd lotus]

maybe

but i see a pattern in the requiems tho

like they r meant to say something

[tight pagoda]

What does the poem say in that order?

[graceful zodiac]

Drifter can't do that, Duviri and 1999 are special circumstances

[shrewd lotus]

oh good question let me check

[past dagger]

still those are powers

[shrewd lotus]

gonna brb

yk what im gonna write the poem here xd

[graceful zodiac]

Yeah, but they aren't things he just has. Duviri is specifically because he's the creator of it, and 1999 is because it was already a loop

[past dagger]

but doesnt he do the hand slam thing to reset the loop at the end

[tight pagoda]

I think AstiaZ’s point is that it’s not something they can do regularly, 1999 is a paradox

[past dagger]

oh yeah i agree i just wanted to mention that the drifter still has some sort of time ability

[flat sinew]

Hey I found a pizza "treasure" in a chunk of techrot but I can't grab it. It's in one of the subway station areas, and I was wondering if anyone knows if I can get it?

[tight pagoda]

Probably a bugged spawn unless there’s something you can shoot to blow up the rot

[flat sinew]

I'm gonna keep praying for that lol

[shrewd lotus]

Carrion hordes trill their profane
Accord with eldritch plans

X

From brooding gulfs are we beheld
By that which bears no name

To cosmic madness laws submit
Though stalwart minds entreat

Its heralds are the stars it fells
The sky and Earth aflame

Coeporeal laws are unwrit
As suns and love retreat

why does it make sense like this

[tight pagoda]

The rhyming scheme almost still working is interesting too

[shrewd lotus]

wait

love retreats

remember when entrati said that love was their weakness

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/955782924375031838/1149382913658462298/tuh.gif

[dense kite]

true love first kiss

[tight pagoda]

Yeah this might be a taunt from Wally saying he’s getting rid of love or something

[dense kite]

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-lettie-judging-1999-warframe-gif-15529471153998470406

[tight pagoda]

Wife

[night grail]

We've been knowing this though

1999 just dropped the subtely and replaced it with a brick

[shrewd lotus]

yeah but like the poem

it feels like it has something to do with all that

[dense kite]

which is why we have a dating sim in this update. while many thought it was useless. it prob could be part of the main quest. we gotta flirt to beat wally lol

also, i reeaaaally want the soundtracks in this update

[shrewd lotus]

it is part of the lore

they dont add stuff without reason

[fading current]

I mean albrecht also quite literally says something like “in order to save them, you have to know them”

[shrewd lotus]

yeah

the loop is just there to justify having relationships with everyone xd

[flat magnet]

I realised that Lettie is the only one with her legs still intact

[fading current]

Yep haha

[dense kite]

yup, when i saw that. i immediately thought "is the dating sim actually vital to the game and not a side thing?"

[supple dagger]

I did NOT like how mag died that was dumb

[shrewd lotus]

she even said to eleanor in a really nice way that shes infested in a different way xd

[left mortar]

It’s probably going to be something similar to the end of the whispers in the wall quest where wally couldn't weave a path of cause and effect to replicate an act of love/kindness like what the operator showed it

[dense kite]

yup and i think you can change the colors lol too

[left mortar]

That's my guess anyway

[supple dagger]

Smoking while wearing a gas mask.

[shrewd lotus]

shes a prototype

[flat magnet]

Wait seriously? that makes no sense

[shrewd lotus]

makes sense shes not strong enough

[dense kite]

which arent we all infested

[shrewd lotus]

the name is literally proto why the x

[flat magnet]

The Hex aren’t prototypes

[supple dagger]

Don’t think she is but she also dies from over exerting herself

[shrewd lotus]

they r part of mass production

[flat magnet]

They existed AFTER warframes

[dense kite]

but i guess nyx is the only warframe to actually control infested which was cool when we did her mission.

[shrewd lotus]

where thats even stated tho

[night grail]

Warframes were created -> albrecht goes back in time and creates the hex

[flat magnet]

Albrecht took helminth strain and brought it to 1999. He took future infested back

[dense kite]

imagine if they gave her abilities to summon infested and control multiple infested

[shrewd lotus]

in spanish it literally says "lote" tho

idk the translation

but thats used for mass production stuff

like each proto had lote: and the warframe they r

[left mortar]

Chronologically they exist before warframes. They're not prototypes though, it’s more like Albrecht working with what he had to make warframes

[shrewd lotus]

like arthur being lote: excalibur etc etc

[shrewd lotus]

that would still technically be a prototype to what he tried to make then

[graceful zodiac]

They aren't prototypes, they're exactly what he was trying to make

[left mortar]

A prototype would suggest he's making them from scratch

[shrewd lotus]

but whatever it is they were not trained anyway so i feel it does make sense on how aoi died

[dense kite]

on deimos when we do the lab mission. we see the hex on albrecht lab and personally. i think those giant statues was to connect to each hex member

[night grail]

Timelines get screwy when time travel is involved but the warframes existed before the hex. I don't think there's any bootstrap paradoxes considering the orokin wiped the data on ancient earth

[left mortar]

Tbh I just assumed those were just massive transference vessels the operator can use to fight the murmur in a future quest

[shrewd lotus]

yeah they seem more like test vessels

for transference

[dense kite]

i really thought so too. i was hoping we can use them and have another weapon like giants.

[shrewd lotus]

one of the many ideas from alberch that didnt work xd

[pliant loom]

Someone used a gemini skin to spawn their kuva litch and got a toupee on its shoulder

[left mortar]

But if they are connected I wonder what that means with Wally taking over one of them

[obtuse gyro]

not really, albrecht was quite upfront that he wanted what the protoframes are, not that they were tests for transference

[shrewd lotus]

eh idk

might be thinking wrong im tired af xd

[left mortar]

We’re talking about the giant statues, not the protoframes

The ones in the sanctum

[graceful zodiac]

The Vessels are not inherently connected to each member of the Hex

[shrewd lotus]

yuh

[graceful zodiac]

Just Arthur, at most

[shrewd lotus]

it was a good transition tho

but feels it was just used for that ngl xd

[left mortar]

Didn't Albrecht just copy arthur’s anatomy to make them?

[shrewd lotus]

i mean

they all r based on humans

theres also females btw

[graceful zodiac]

He mixed Arthur's DNA with the Gray Strain to make the Vessels

[left mortar]

Okay yea that's what I thought

[shrewd lotus]

what about the females tho

[dense kite]

in other maps, other vessels are incomplete so i think that the working vessel was for loid. many say they dont look alike but i think the vessel we jump into was loid which pretty much used to kinda bring peace to loid. but when we jump back to 99 we dont use the vessel. we use an old device. hence, the computer.

[graceful zodiac]

The same deal

Gender does not matter

[dense kite]

i think that albrecht was building the vessels to control them like we do warframes but since time was running out and wally was getting close. i think the vessels were left incomplete and he had to go back in time and had us pick up where he left of to catch up to him to 1999

[shrewd lotus]

the vessels did have a meaning tho

[left mortar]

That's what I assumed

[shrewd lotus]

as we use them to stop the murmur to get out of sanctum

[left mortar]

Nah, we used an act of love that Wally couldn't comprehend

It was less about the vessels in that scene and more about what we did with them

[graceful zodiac]

For that specific scene, yes

[shrewd lotus]

i felt that said act healed loid heart which is what the murmur was using as it feeds on pain

[dense kite]

but in the end, i want the vessels to be playable. give us a giant map where we can use them and feel like kaijus

[graceful zodiac]

but the Vessels are fully intended to be combat units against Wally

[shrewd lotus]

like the way to stop the murmur as how has been stated multiple times is love

[left mortar]

I don’t think it’s that it feeds off pain. I think it’s more so that Wally operates by weaving timelines through simulated cause and effect to travel the multiverse, but he can't simulate acts of love as an uncaring unfeeling indifferent eldritch god

Thus preventing him from approaching that moment in time

[shrewd lotus]

he doesnt seem uncaring or without any feeling tho

he has expressed multiple times happines and stuff like that (on its own way)

i forgot how to write that

[dense kite]

yeah and knows how to manipulate emotions

this story is complicated lol

[shrewd lotus]

think about what reb said

they dont even know what wf is anymore xd

[dense kite]

imma just focus on fashion and fighting lol

[left mortar]

That doesn't necessarily mean he has emotions

[left mortar]

And only when he's mirroring a human

[tender pine]

you have no idea how many people who don't play warframe, I've shown 1999 to and they're like "is this really the same game?"

[left mortar]

We haven't really interacted with Wally’s true form (other than that one scene at the end of the new war), and giving it the name “The Indifference” definitely implies it doesn't feel anything towards the world of dust

[shrewd lotus]

i saw the indifference as another being ngl

[left mortar]

No, Wally is the void

[shrewd lotus]

we already know what the man in the wall looks like

[left mortar]

It’s all one thing

[shrewd lotus]

also

[left mortar]

It’s not that we don't know what he looks like. My point is that he might just be mimicking those emotions

[shrewd lotus]

go out in sanctum and look up

u can see his face smiling on the roof of sanctum anatomicva xd

i find it funny ngl

[left mortar]

I'm not able to get on, what’s up there 🥲

[shrewd lotus]

hes up there

[left mortar]

Ohhhhh

[shrewd lotus]

just existing

smiling to the void

[dense kite]

you literally see him up there and the zariman

[graceful zodiac]

Wally and the Indifference are the same thing, there's no difference

[left mortar]

Wait that's gnarly

[dense kite]

lemme see if i can take a pic for u to see

[shrewd lotus]

yeah with ssnctum they showed us that the people on the zariman know little ablut the void

they said that taking the zariman out will destroy everything and alberch has the other side inside deimos

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/955782924375031838/1149382913658462298/tuh.gif

well anyway

we will learn more on the next quest i think

as this one ended with the zariman itself

[obtuse gyro]

the name would imply that, however, its actions dont seem to bely the idea of indifference youre holding to

[shrewd lotus]

now im going to sleep as its 4:20am for me xd

[left mortar]

That’s true and definitely a weak spot in my theory. But there are some explanations

[shrewd lotus]

byebye and hope we can chat once again to talk about lore

[left mortar]

Byeee

[shrewd lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159566087059419156/1295171585837240402/image0-47-1-1.gif

[obtuse gyro]

psychoanalytical kooks say that the opposite of love is indifference, but this doesnt mean that this is an utter disregard for things

[left mortar]

Indifference is by definition the utter disregard for everything

[graceful zodiac]

We already know it isn't

[real niche]

Wally is clearly interested in Operator for some ungodly reason

[obtuse gyro]

its very actions speak otherwise, the broad stroke of the definition of indifference is evidently insufficient to describe wally

[flat magnet]

It’s so cliche that love is how we’re fighting Wally

[left mortar]

We know it definitely does care about some things though so I don't think it’s entirely indifferent, just indifferent to a lot of the human experience, like love

[left mortar]

Toxic fanfic writers be eating good

[flat magnet]

The real treasure was the friends we made along the way ahhh story

[dense kite]

@left mortar
Here you go

[left mortar]

Oh sweet, thanks!

[empty storm]

yes, the power of love, war crimes, and incredible violence

[graceful zodiac]

That's just the same construct from the New War

[left mortar]

I guess I'll revise my theory a bit then. For whatever reason, it can't simulate events that include acts of love and compassion, which would then block it from approaching a timeline and trapping it in a place in time

[flat magnet]

Don’t forget child labour

[left mortar]

Human experimentation

[dense kite]

its hard to tell if the tech is the zariman. i thought so but i cant really tell so my b for misinformation. but it looks like sanctum is a merge of various places

[empty storm]

child soldiers

[left mortar]

Uh… are we the good guys

[dense kite]

who knows

[left mortar]

Nahhh, we've gotta be the good guys. Why else would we kill thousands of people

[dense kite]

well, we dont have a reason. the lotus is the person that guided us and told us. a sentient who was made to infiltrate and destroy us but decided to go w her own agenda and has personality issues

[empty storm]

we're the best the origin system is going to get

[graceful zodiac]

Yes, explicitly

[flat magnet]

We maintain balance or that’s what we tell ourselves to ignore the childhood trauma

[left mortar]

It was a joke guys 😭

[tender pine]

is........Lotus gone?

[graceful zodiac]

The Tenno are the ultimate force for good the system has

[dense kite]

i should really be sleeping. is 2am and i have to work shortly

[tender pine]

oh nah there she is

[dense kite]

shes there lol.

sometimes i visit her to make sure she doesnt jump off lol

[left mortar]

I hope we find out why the lotus lied about the indifference

Unless we already know and I missed it

[dense kite]

i think there was an answer but i dont remember

[left mortar]

Tbh I’m not good with the cryptic stuff so 😭

[tender pine]

I feel like it was a missed opportunity not to do anything with Lotus in 1999

if there's anything I'm "whelmed" by in an otherwise fantastic quest, it's probably that

Operator even mentions her in the email

"I'll keep an eye on her" or something to that effect

[dense kite]

right, idk why she was even involved when theres literally nothing related between her and 1999

only thing she did was give us the beeper thingy

[tender pine]

she might not be related to the 1999 quest directly, but it's pretty clear that the events happening effect her and likely have consequences relating to her

[left mortar]

She just went “I’m hearing voices. Drifter, I care about you less. Go shut them up”

[tender pine]

perhaps this update just isn't when it's planned to take the lid off those, but it puts the Lotus Eaters as a "prologue" in a weird spot

[prime lantern]

How long between conversations with hex members

[dense kite]

also since shes also sentient, the void could also be affecting her. i think

[tender pine]

I love 1999 but in a lot of ways it reminds me of the second dream and the sacrifice

It answers some questions and makes you want to ask 100 others. It very much feels like the beginning of something bigger

[dense kite]

i need to sleep. gn everyone. nice talking to all and hope all questions are answered

[left mortar]

Biggest question: what's the most optimal romance option

[tender pine]

It just would have been awesome if you finish the quest and suddenly lotus has new dialogue or literally disappears all together

[midnight swallow]

cool bug

[fluid spoke]

Between corpus greed and neglect, grineer brutality and callousness, and the infested...I'd say, yeah

[wanton phoenix]

theres no good guys in warframe universe, only lesser evil ones

[wraith eagle]

Is no on else underwhelmed by the 1999 story? I'm still working through it but I has done absolutely no work to actually be a story.

[fading current]

Not one bit tbh…it was everything I expected and a bit more

Excited even more for the post content

[wraith eagle]

I mean I should have expected it to be threadbare, so shouldn't be disappointed.

[paper bronze]

In case anyone is interested, there's a terminal in Aoi's little shop that has some info on On Lyne and the trehno cyte

[night grail]

Technocyte coda specifically

[paper bronze]

Yeah. Didn't want to go too much into it but yeah it's vague background for the infested coda.

[fervent finch]

well

that was... very easy tbh lol

[plain onyx]

my brotha in christ arthur just stabbed my drifter's hand

what did my drifter even do to ya ;-;

[wraith eagle]

Good question...

[tight pagoda]

Is this just from killing the tank in Steel Path? Or is there something else involved?

[wraith eagle]

||"Maybe we don't need Marty to stop this?!"|| ||Then why are we even involved?! Make up your mind on who is relevant and who isn't because every character is just an accessory half the time ffs||

[gilded cedar]

Sumdali?

[fervent finch]

its like the 60 eyes for the murmur boss, except easier
in the same segment of the map before destroying each door, theres 1 green console that is interactable if you're holding those rpg keys/phones (not the one the wp directs you to), you play a slightly harder version of snake, do it for both consoles before reaching the boss to activate hard mode (its easier than the murmur one by far tbh)

[patent marten]

The phone

[fervent finch]

yeh it looks a bit goofy lol

[tight pagoda]

That would look good with the Kahl one I bet

[fervent finch]

yeh it fits pretty well

[plain onyx]

hmm so apparently in this new quest, our drifter goes back in time and our operator sits this one out in the present, but i wonder what would have happened if it's the other way around, i wonder if arthur would have stabbed a child's hand aswell lol

[gilded cedar]

Wally already being 1999, it would’ve gone bad instantly if Operator went instead

The Operator has had a deal to get the Void powers while the Drifter did not

[coral grotto]

Drifter suddenly disappears due to wally's intervention, leaving the hex to panic because they're not sure they'll be able to stop the nuclear detonation on their own

"Ah yes, clearly this means we aren't relevant"

[vague aurora]

soooo i found a funny

ive entered the backrooms what do i do

[obtuse gyro]

got yoinked right there

[fervent finch]

on one hand I love the new stuff

[obtuse gyro]

what the hell

[fervent finch]

but on the other hand, why no decoration vendor atm

[vague aurora]

magik

[wraith eagle]

Blame Wally

[plain onyx]

what?

[wraith eagle]

Or Entrati if you're Hex

[fervent finch]

I was so ready to grind out hex standing for a few months for 1999 decorations, and then saw none of them sell decorations lol

[plain onyx]

so.. what happens if operator interacts with wally instead of drifter then?

[coral grotto]

Speaking of, why wasn't Quincy made a vendor for some of the Drifter outfit parts when he explicitly says part of his side gig is dealing clothing? That seems like such a stupid oversight.

[vague aurora]

ive gone and broke the new content at least five times already

[fervent finch]

the story and new stuff is cool
but
No vendor selling decorations
No vendor selling clothing
like 75% of the new vendor stuff is just music and glyphs

[coral grotto]

yeah, definitely feels underbaked there

[fervent finch]

also

no rpg weapon

[coral grotto]

de plz give us RPG archgun

[ripe crypt]

Am i supposed to do that for the story to progress (+also romance)

[coral grotto]

yea, you're supposed to talk to them to get to know them

[fervent finch]

its nice at least that they let people use umbras scarf on arthur skin, but shame you cant use the prime bits for the others lol

[coral grotto]

it's also a shame you can't use non-deluxe skins in combination, considering they should just share the same base

[plain onyx]

man, all these characters cussing >:v

[fervent finch]

would be nice but then people would have too much of a field day if we ever get a gemini ember

[coral grotto]

heirlooms are a custom model tho

[fervent finch]

im mostly wondering what gemini mesa would be like lol

[upper patrol]

hex spoilers kinda but
||is amir a gambling addict?||
||"Fun games...Big prizes!!..."||

[plain onyx]

wait what?? so apparently these 1999 grineer looking ahh goons aren't the ones that are trying to set the nuke up in this place but rather albrect himself??

oh, yeah, maybe that's why arthur and the hex are looking for the damn dude in the first place

but, albrect really is the bad dude after all??

are we fighting the good dudes now??

[paper bronze]

Albrecht is Orokin. There was never a good orokin before the entrati got infested. All he's doing now is running from his mistakes and tucking his tail trying to escape.

[upper patrol]

thats like saying "these grineer are building their fomorians and the corpus are trying to stop them"
we come in and woop the corpus, were we ever the good dudes?

[plain onyx]

who's REALLY the good and bad dudes???

[muted merlin]

can somebody help me with romance? im tryna get arthur but quincy is after m rn. how do i get to make them chat me again? i finished calander and am rank 2 right now

[plain onyx]

huh, so the dude is dipping

[upper patrol]

its 1 conversation/day

also how the hell did you get quincy to like you
he just seems annoyed about "space trauma"

[muted merlin]

when do they reset? 12 on the dot in here or in game

[muted merlin]

lol lemme check for u rq

[plain onyx]

bruh, i thought u guys told me that the operator isn't supposed to be in 1999, what's my lil dude doing in here then???

[upper patrol]

every irl day
at least thats what worked for me idk the exact time

[muted merlin]

looks like i just chatted with him bout arthur

[muted merlin]

thats so long ;-;

[gusty ravine]

The bestest of friends.

[upper patrol]

i cant tell which one is the companion thing
that thing up there looks like excalidog prime

[obtuse gyro]

the scaldra are absolutely not the good dudes here

[paper bronze]

He didn't seem annoyed about space trauma for me. He put respect down for it.

[gusty ravine]

I'm, sorry, what? what do you mean by that?

[plain onyx]

fair enough

[paper bronze]

Literally no one but the Hex are the good dudes in 99

[plain onyx]

woah....

[upper patrol]

yknow what excal prime looks like?
imagine that little minion eye thing but on a dog

OH THATS JADE

[wraith eagle]

Because its more complaining and no one wants to see that:
||Less that the drifter isn't relevant, but more that it feels like no one is relevant and are all mostly plot vehicles getting... yoinked along. Hex are the barest skeletons of characters i cannot care less about. I hoped for a story, it just gave me plot.||

[bold sorrel]

Can Gemini Skins be changed somehow or when they are changed, they always have the default look?

[gusty ravine]

...are you calling my warframe a dog...? because that doesn't seem very nice...

[flat sinew]

Anyone know how to get the infested liches? If they're even impremented yet?

I want to kill a boy band. Preferrably in game

[gusty ravine]

not yet implimented. they had to fix some stuff

[plain onyx]

so apparently arthur believes that only albrect can stop his own nuke, but what makes him think of that?

[gusty ravine]

that thing on the side is a statue of Ordis...

[upper patrol]

i was confused by the helmet,ive never seen that on jade

[steady heath]

wait so if the reactor blew up how are we back here when the quest ends?

[upper patrol]

drifter used his duivir powers to rewind time

[steady heath]

Ohh that makes sense

[gusty ravine]

he still got the Dominus Thrax powers to rewind time.

[steady heath]

I forgot about that

What's this strengthen your bond with the hex thing? can you do that yet?

[upper patrol]

wait so we have

1. space kid that can control space robots with void magic
2. space adult that can control space robots with void magic,rewind time and has expirience using guns and swords

[paper bronze]

Space Kid is also a more direct conduit for Wall Man. So who knows where thay will lead.

[plain onyx]

wtf, so this scaldra lady is actually a dude?!

[fiery lantern]

Ok which one is Glimmer and which one is Salem?

[paper bronze]

Glimmer is Aoi. Salem is Eleanor.

[open vault]

Aoi and Eleanor respectively

[fiery lantern]

Noted.

[plain onyx]

uuhhh what the hell just happened?? just who exactly is this scaldra boss lady and why did "she" turned into wally, is she even actually real??? quincy dipped on the group it seems and where the hell did me and albrect go O.O

ayo what is this?? i get to play as the other dudes now??

[wraith eagle]

Just finished

[paper bronze]

I'm thinking that she was replaced or smth by Wally during the beating Albrecht scene

[wraith eagle]

That was even more than disappointing

[plain onyx]

bruh

what about viktor lol

[paper bronze]

He's just there.

He big chillin'

[ripe crypt]

i wouldn't say used.. it triggers from his death

[upper patrol]

so he dies and his arm muscules trigger to punch the floor like a hammer

[ripe crypt]

well.. he was shot.

[paper bronze]

I assumed it had something to do with his meeting with Wally. Especially since it seems to be a bigger affect of the time loop than the single day duviri was.

[upper patrol]

yeah but its not like he just vaporised like if i used a lex prime on someone
also he didnt shoot in a place that would kill you immediatly
i think drifter just knew that he had 1 option and rewinded

[wraith eagle]

Here I was thinking they could rewind duviri because it was their little pocket universe.

[paper bronze]

Let's be real, Lex prime ain't killing anything

[upper patrol]

i think this was the one with duiviri

[wraith eagle]

Let's be real, that whole sequence as dumb as all hell

[plain onyx]

ow lesgo, i get to play as leonore, she a baddie fr

[upper patrol]

it wasnt his pocket dimension
but it was kinda cool

dude what r u doing in spoiler chat before you complete the quest

[obtuse gyro]

well, it kinda is his, just that he handed to reigns to thrax

[plain onyx]

problem?

[upper patrol]

if u dont care about the story then no
not for me at least

[plain onyx]

i just find talking about quests as i play them really fun lol

[wraith eagle]

I mean, does that mean 1999 is another isolated creation pulled from their current memories

[upper patrol]

it seems to be an alternate dimension created by albrecht

[wraith eagle]

Equally ridiculous so fair

[upper patrol]

yep

[ripe crypt]

Eleonor being bombed with the entire Warframe lore

[upper patrol]

arthur finding out what an emoticon is

[ripe crypt]

Foreshadowing

[upper patrol]

foreshadowing of what?

taking aoi?

[ripe crypt]

Wifing Aoi

[upper patrol]

god dammit

[ripe crypt]

alright somehow made Arthur, Eleonor and Aoi "Friendly"
how do I trgger more chats

[upper patrol]

wait

just wait
it resets every day

[ripe crypt]

oh.. its one every day..?

[upper patrol]

yep

what do i give to a journalist?

[ripe crypt]

gossip

[upper patrol]

lmao pillows

[ripe crypt]

a body pillow

[upper patrol]

deluxe calculator

ah screw this im sending her a microwave

[plain onyx]

ayooooo leonore got TONGUE

[upper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-impostor-dead-death-killed-gif-21161142

[plain onyx]

still would

[upper patrol]

excuse me?!

[paper bronze]

Eleanor seeing every page of the Warframe wiki I've ever looked at all at once.

[plain onyx]

she a baddie 10/10

[paper bronze]

I've given her a note book and pens. Got a heart from both.

[upper patrol]

god dammit i gave her a phone

[plain onyx]

ow wtf, eleanor dies?!

[ripe crypt]

can we just give amir an Ordis

[upper patrol]

shhhhhhh

[plain onyx]

wtf is this spoilers channel for then???

[upper patrol]

i feel like ordis would be angry/confused and amir would be shocked

[upper patrol]

im worried people will spoil it for you

the quest is so fricking cool

[ripe crypt]

he is infatuated with Robots. Just copy Ordis and give it to him

[plain onyx]

then wtf do u think im doing in here in the spoilers channel as im PLAYING the quest lol

[upper patrol]

yeah but thats like watching the movie discussion halfway through the movies and someone says "blumbo kills bimbo" right at the part where they become allies or whatever

[paper bronze]

I want to give him a MOA

[upper patrol]

he would probably have a stroke if he saw the corpus

[plain onyx]

guess that's my problem

aw, quincy is a momma's boy

[upper patrol]

he would probably be like "Who the hell programmed this!"

[ripe crypt]

am I gonna regret this

[paper bronze]

Buy him the air hockey table

[upper patrol]

Aoi likes cofee i think

[paper bronze]

Lettie like coffee

[ripe crypt]

Amir isn't allowed to drink Coffee

[paper bronze]

Aoi likes the audio stuff.

[upper patrol]

Hmm

[paper bronze]

Amir would likely have his heart explode of he drank coffee.

[pastel umbra]

I bought Quincy a poster of entrati

[pastel umbra]

A minigame where you have to rush him to the hospital

[paper bronze]

Yes

[plain onyx]

ayoo, why are the hex "dying"????

[paper bronze]

Blame Entrati

[pastel umbra]

Lvl 5 Trinity with no forma and only steel charge installed

[plain onyx]

skill issue fr

[pastel umbra]

Tbh when I had to play as Lettie I had no idea what to do

2000 hours in game but I never played Trinity I'm surprised I didn't die

[ripe crypt]

because canonically Protoframes are weak af compared to actual warframes

[cyan beacon]

I played Trinity a lot years ago for Eidolon hunting to keep those silly drones alive

[plain onyx]

realistically, could they really walljump, bullet jump and all the crazy stuff that actual warframes do?

[ripe crypt]

im talking ability wise

[cyan beacon]

I think they lagging behind in durability

[ripe crypt]

Mag not only could realistically keep the rods of the reactor in she could probably crash the reactor

its pretty evident the protoframe powers are not only weaker than the original they also really exhaust their bodies

[cyan beacon]

Protoframe Grendel would just eat the nuke

[gusty ravine]

yeah problem is, they're all sorta new to being warframes, she said so when she ||almost got flattened by a truck||

[ripe crypt]

Aoi is the weakest it looks like

[paper bronze]

Aoi literally gets an aneurysm from over exertion. I'm viewing it like a muscle that they need to work out to get better with it.

[plain onyx]

AYOOO eleneor really tried to gobble up ettie wtf!!!

[paper bronze]

I think the added durability of a True Warframe allows for that full exertion of the ability without strain on the user plus the repair from helminth between missions.

[upper patrol]

...

[paper bronze]

Not just tries, does.

[plain onyx]

wtf eleneor!!! that was uncalled for!!!

[plain onyx]

(she should have gobbled me up)

[upper patrol]

volt in gameplay vs cinematic is actualy so dissapointing tho

[paper bronze]

literally how Lettie dies.

Dies trying to shoot her friend after a Hive mind consumed her.

[plain onyx]

F in the chat for quincy

[paper bronze]

Quincy went out on his terms

[plain onyx]

man, he saw that tank aiming up at him, he should have just bullet jumped out of the way!!!

scripted deaths man 😦

BROOOO, aoi got BARBEQUED

and arthur just dipped wtf!!!

[paper bronze]

Aoi had brain aneurysm wdym barbequed?

[plain onyx]

what?

[obtuse gyro]

Arthur didnt dip bruh, he went to clear the core room

[paper bronze]

She over exerted herself. Her eyes went bloodshot because she literally popped a blood vessel. Her brain essentially exploded to put it simply.

[plain onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-to-sad-face-silly-sad-mood-switch-computer-gif-1609533414975318099

man what!!! albrect shot ME now!!!

[sinful apex]

how do i wish the hex a happy birthday?

[plain onyx]

QUEST IS OVER ALREADY!?

[obtuse gyro]

not yet, get R5 hex and you'll see

[plain onyx]

aw, back to grinding now huh

uh what am i doing back in the mall? how are these dudes alive again?? didn't they just flipping, die??

[cyan beacon]

farming those things for R3 will be a pain

do we get them only from bounties?

[upper patrol]

drifter rewinded time

[ripe crypt]

ive been getting different responses. How do you unlock the Hex Finale?

[cyan beacon]

R5 with Hex

[obtuse gyro]

R5 hex

[ripe crypt]

alright alright so are prevented from speedrunning it because of the standing cap

the KIM Messager is for the relationships and little bits of lore

22k standing cap for me isnt really.. nice so to say

[cyan beacon]

Are those syndicate medallions for Hex are only earnable from bounties rewards?

[ripe crypt]

hex has medallions?

[cyan beacon]

Yeah those that Lettie can trade for standing

[ripe crypt]

oh those

no, they spawn in every hollvania map

just like voidplumes

just wait for a guy wit parallax

[cyan beacon]

Oh thanks!

[slender ledge]

is there any extra benefit to the player version of faceoff?

[ripe crypt]

where do I get the reconifx parts?

[shell saddle]

guys, does the three (white, with and black, black) choices affect the story?

[ripe crypt]

no

[shell saddle]

okay thanks

[sage pond]

It is really just for show on your Warframe profile really.

[shell saddle]

and also, why did they add phoenix to warframe

[slender ledge]

theyre also not evil and good like it might look like, its more white = passionate and black = logical/pragmatic

[sage pond]

||kinda question why drifter refused to kill squadra leader when there is a possibility we will kil herl a bunch for a Warframe bp anyways if DE ever decides to make her a boss||

[shell saddle]

i see

[sage pond]

Good point

[plain onyx]

huh, neat, guess i live in the mall backrooms now

[tight pagoda]

Drifter, like me, looked at her and said “I can fix her”

[slender ledge]

damn my calendar reward got auto picked to affinity booster, which is useless to me

[strange trail]

Will more warframes get Gemini skins? I’d love to see a sevagoth Gemini even though the protoframe wouldn’t be canon

[pastel umbra]

I dont think DE would make her a boss. She's more a vessel of my beloved, the indifference. "Fighting her" is more about a deterrent.

But as I say that tho, we did throw like a dozen rockets at her In the chase scene

[stoic crag]

I hope so but realistically I wouldn't expect it

[pastel umbra]

What MR are you

[slender ledge]

LR 3

[slender ledge]

think it depends how well the gemini skins sell, theyre a ton of work since they require VA work and such

[pastel umbra]

I'm so jealous

[pastel umbra]

Also in terms of lore, entrati doesn't need 58 warframes to do battle against Wally. That's why he's making mega-mechframes back in the labs

[jagged sphinx]

Welp I finished the quest.
I’m pleasantly confused and ready for the next one

[slender ledge]

dont really think DE consider lore when making skins

tho ig i can see them making an exception for gemini

[stoic crag]

im wondering who the other indifference contracters were, maybe the orokin?

[pastel umbra]

I think more in the line of how you said a Gemini requires a lot more money to make. Lore friendly makes that decision slightly easier

[slender ledge]

dont think so since the indifference presumably didnt show up until entrati did his void stuff

[pastel umbra]

We're in 1999, well before entrati originally

[stoic crag]

it does specify that they "took" rather than asked

[pastel umbra]

Also, parvos granum made a deal with the void

[stoic crag]

and the orokin were fond of running around realspace with its' finger...

[pastel umbra]

I think also the use of Kuva

It is kinda void blood. I wish DE would make it make sense

[slender ledge]

were here because entrati discovered the void allowing for traveling back in time via eternalism, entrati opening a door to the void is like a nexus event which lets the indifference exist in the real world, so it cant change the past to much as it would remove its own opening to the world

[stoic crag]

they got the finger from him doing void stuff, im guessing that it's counting that?

still really curious if 1999 is ACTUAL time travel or just void shenanigans

[jagged sphinx]

iirc the indifference didn’t exist until Entrati was exposed to the void, after which the Orokin finally took his work seriously and began recklessly entering and using it

[pastel umbra]

The fish does mention the strands of khra a lot

[stoic crag]

another void entity maybe?

[slender ledge]

i think 1999 is sorta time travel, but because of eternalism and the fact that the deal with wally made all multiverses into only 2, the only way 1999 can be time travel and not alter the timeline is if its accessible from the future, which it is gonna be, proven by the fact that were getting infested liches in present time

[pastel umbra]

That might be the case, but maybe only while Wally is still incomplete no? Let's say we went back to a timeline and stopped Albrecht. There's still a billion others Wally can just create again. I feel once he became, there is no way to de-evolve him back to the void

[pastel umbra]

Only 2? The deal didn't collapse all of reality into the drifter and the operator did it?

[slender ledge]

that became impossible after wally made his deal with the operator, which made all possible universes coincide into 2 outcomes, drifter and operator

[slender ledge]

that is what was heavily implied

[stoic crag]

I think just as Duviri was a plane created from the unconscious mind of both Mother and Drifter, the indifference is an entity that was "dreamed up" by Albrecht, being a cynical man

same with the "corruption" underneath Deimos

[pastel umbra]

I thought the implication was only ourselves were reduced to two. Leaving the rest of the multiverse mostly intact

[stoic crag]

which we don't see anywhere else the void touches

only Deimos

[pastel umbra]

Okay wait, please can you tell me what is the heart of Deimos? Is it the labs?

CUZ I saw other people saying if it was detsroyed, the heart of Deimos, that all void tech would stop working

[slender ledge]

ig that could be the case, but i dont see us traveling to a universe in which we never exist

[pastel umbra]

Oh gosh the space talk is messing with me

[stoic crag]

my assumption is that the heart is the main gateway into the void, closing it would cripple most tech reliant on the void, but the indifference is contracted to the tenno and the drifter meaning it likely can't be dispelled from the origin system anymore

[slender ledge]

real, eternalism and the void are a real brain wrecker

[pastel umbra]

It only gets more confusing the more you talk about it with others I thought I had a good grasp on it

[slender ledge]

the only difference is the indifference cant directly affect the world thru us but can affect us

[jagged sphinx]

The void gives life to the strongest emotions, thoughts, or desires of whoever enters it, so when Albrecht entered the void it gave life to Wally - a twisted reflection of him that focused on his indifferent and selfish nature at the time.

[slender ledge]

thats cause time travel and multiverses are involved now lol

[stoic crag]

im inclined to disagree there, i think it can affect the world through us but chooses not to because it's funnier that way. as far as i'm aware, Rell acted as a "beacon" drawing the eyes of Wally off the Tenno at large and acted through him, eventually anyway.

rap tap tap gives Wally away

[slender ledge]

could be the case, im just drawing as close to a conclusion as we can get to based on current evidence

[stoic crag]

fair enough, no judgements here haha

[slender ledge]

also i think rell was just preventing him from talking to us at all

since he seems to have made rell insane by the end

[stoic crag]

part of me thinks Rell wasn't really stopping him... it was just more fun and interesting for Wally to appear at that point after The War Within

like we knew he was there, he just chose to limit interactions until we had a better "introduction"

[slender ledge]

i think he was, the indifference isnt all powerfull, proven by the fact that we can mess with its plans

and that it gets mad at us for disobeying the deal

[jagged sphinx]

This is the most likely conclusion based on the repeated suggestions in the game lol

[stoic crag]

I like this line of thought, that Wally is just part of a greater entity. Maybe the void is just an incredibly powerful multiversal entity and the indifference is just a part of it come to mess with us

[jagged sphinx]

It’s gonna be about 3 or 4 more updates of fights and then you save the world by hugging the eldritch monster lmao

[slender ledge]

were gonna umbra him frfr

[stoic crag]

Plus multiple times we've seen the main Vitruvian man and the operator sitting on it

it really feels like separate entities

[pastel umbra]

Why stop there

Let us play the lotus like Kahl in the new war with a boar prime

[nova harness]

Zariman

[stoic crag]

that specific corruption? it's different on the Zariman compared to Deimos

[nova harness]

You literally see the Void touching the Zariman

[merry zealot]

yall think tennocon huge update is us going to tau to find albrecht?

[stoic crag]

Deimos has a concrete corruption whereas the Zariman is more of an organic metallic growth

OH THATS RIGHT TAU IS REFERENCED AGAIN

[true nebula]

guys, are we forever stuck on the year 1999? if we finish the quest?

[nova harness]

We aren’t going to Tau Rebb confirmed that

[stoic crag]

I think the different portals to the void take us to different planes. Deimos is the main indifference and the zariman is duviri

[merry zealot]

bro really said ''im going to tau, goodbye''

[merry zealot]

hmm.. i wonder whats 2025 tennocon going to be

[stoic crag]

Ballas but somehow more negligent

[nova harness]

Void War arc stuff

[jagged sphinx]

I like how the most recent On-lyne song echoes the theme of 1999 in certain parts
“Baby till you come back with something, I know I’ll never let it go…”
Cut to the Drifter starting the time loop

[pastel umbra]

The void actually hasn't given form to love has it?

Hmm?

[stoic crag]

Jade?

[pastel umbra]

Wasn't that a Warframe doing that

[merry zealot]

the great despair popping on when everyone was dying was so ironic

[pastel umbra]

That was intentionally a Warframe doing that

Sorry by void j did mean Wally himself

He's very synical in nature

[jagged sphinx]

Wally is not the void

He is of the void

[stoic crag]

Wally is an entity of the void

[pastel umbra]

Wally is the manifestion of the void???

[jagged sphinx]

A manifestation

[stoic crag]

much like the indifference (assuming they're different)

[nova harness]

They are the same

[pastel umbra]

No no no, he is the void given shape by the thoughts of entrati (at his birth at least)

[merry zealot]

they are the same

[dense ice]

Im suprised that albrecht was using lex prime

[merry zealot]

he tried to charge the incarnon on amir, but failed

[stoic crag]

got me as well, saw the lex and did a double take

[pastel umbra]

Yes. But he was shaped in the void, made of the void.

The void exists and Wally does too. But they're both made of the same stuff if that makes sense? That's how I saw it

[tight pagoda]

I don’t think I even got either— but I did get to redo my birthday message to Lettie

[jagged sphinx]

wally and the indifference are the same thing, but the void is a tool that was able to form Wally

[slender ledge]

thats what happened to me, check your boosters, if not then u prob got the arcanes

[merry zealot]

btw do you need to click on the birthday and click send a message or it auto skips if you complete the previous to do mission?

[pastel umbra]

I want to make a Wally fan club

[stoic crag]

it's much like when you make a pot out of clay, it's still a clay pot, but it's an entity seperate from the clay it came from

[nova harness]

The Man In The Wall' is identical with the entity known to us as 'The Indifference'.

Albrecht Entrati is ultimately responsible for attracting its attention to the Origin System.

Albrecht Entrati may be ultimately responsible for its existence.

Parameter confirmed. The Tenno is the Chosen Operator. We await the correct moment to activate the Kalymos Sequence.

Continuing to monitor.

[jagged sphinx]

I am 80% water, however I am not THE ocean

[stoic crag]

ah I missed that, was that the computer in Deimos?

[tight pagoda]

I just got a notification for talking to Lettie, I think either clicking the “send wish” or directly talking to them works

[tight pagoda]

Yep

[pastel umbra]

But can we can agree that Wally is the most knowledgeable of the void? If not knowing all its capabilities

[jagged sphinx]

Sure?

I was just saying he is not the entire void
Just a part of it

[pastel umbra]

Fair

[stoic crag]

it was word usage, it's "an" entity, not "the" entity. I only say that because we know of other entities like Duviri

[white sleet]

Guys, I think people forget that pazuul exists, are we gonna do something about him and save erra or is he just sorta there now for lore purpose

[tight pagoda]

Got the booster, thanks for pointing that out

[stoic crag]

he exists to give me shards, nothing more.

[white sleet]

Lmao