spoiler-chat

[rain otter]

do you want cytes abilites?

[naive stirrup]

I already saw them while looking through other 1999 news and stuff. Just couldn't find the lore part of it. Thank you though

[rain otter]

they look REALLY GOOD lma.

[naive stirrup]

They do honestly

[rain otter]

they don't look broken or anything

but good. it's been a while since we have a invisablity ability.

[fading current]

I can’t wait for cyte-09. He def seems like a frame I’ll be using a lot

[zenith jacinth]

Same

The abilities perfectly fit my preferred playstyle

[obtuse gyro]

same

and thats a shame I just got used to loving caliban'

[zenith jacinth]

Although if cyte doesn't work with my usual fashion I might have to sacrifice him to the wall anyways...

[kindred yoke]

i just did this yesterday and streamed it for my friend bc he wanted to see it again. I wish I could go back and play it again too.

he got me into warframe; at first i was like 'idk if i'mma like this game, it looks like it goes too fast' now i'm all lol flippy dippy

[fading current]

This quest is replayable if you ever want to play it again. I’ve replayed it about 4 times now.

[simple python]

That is tinier than the average tenno.

[kindred yoke]

oh? rad, i was told i couldn't redo the quests! i guess it's only certain ones?

[tight pagoda]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Not_Replayable_Quests

[covert tree]

Yeah some story and almost all cinematic quests are repayable

[kindred yoke]

that's so good to know 😄

[buoyant pawn]

Hello everybody! Hope everyone is doing well.
Sorry, I think this is a rather late question, but does anyone have a reddit/warframe forum or posts here that explain these drawings on Zariman's walls?

[nova harness]

It’s all Wally propaganda really

Some of the pictures show Wally

I heard somewhere the art showed up before Wally was even shown on the ship like he was there before the incident happened

[buoyant pawn]

Oh, it's even more interesting then, but why did the colony ppl/Wally suddenly start drawing something like this?
What does it mean? I'm just too silly to analyze this, I'd like to read someone else's opinion on this :]

[obtuse gyro]

Explain? No. But you are welcome to make your interpretations

[obtuse gyro]

Two zarimans, one wall

[nova harness]

So this proves Vohs 2 Zarimen theory?

[obtuse gyro]

The crew saw, the crew drew. Hail, o' mighty untime! Hail o'mighty division of what is!

[obtuse gyro]

Voh is a 3 zariman theory. This is only 2

[nova harness]

Oh yeah

[obtuse gyro]

Note that there are multiple double zarimans here

Crashing, as if into a mirror

[signal ermine]

playing catch

[signal ermine]

@ionic sleetdude posting scam links

maybe should ping someone that isnt Idle

ah

gone.. reduced to atoms

[undone lodge]

You can ping the whole mod team
@ Moderator

[nova harness]

I think at this point Alyxis being the most popular mod is canon

[signal ermine]

i dont think pinging every single mod over 1 single guy posting the most obvious fishing link is worth it

so i just pinged the mod i see the most often

[undone lodge]

It’s standard practice

Most people in most servers do it

[whole prawn]

Still no date?

[thick jolt]

Nope
Also wouldnt count on it in the devstream considering the game awards appearance have scheduled

[wicked iron]

Nothing wrong with pinging us all. 😄

[nova harness]

Alyxis seems to just be the most popular mod

[wicked iron]

Nothing wrong with that lol

[nova harness]

There is we must make you more popular

[wicked iron]

[nova harness]

You have the best Void banner thing

[wicked iron]

Well, when I have Nitro active anyway lol

[nova harness]

It ran out before didn’t it

[wicked iron]

It has before, yeah. I let it again for now.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/275514194650988544/821195354346487829/Homer_fades_into_the_Void.gif

[nova harness]

Homer gone carry on

[balmy storm]

Thieving this (its funny)

[wicked iron]

Feel free! I found it years ago, when the Void still needed keys and the Void was the only way to get Primes. 😄

[flat magnet]

“H T4 Survival 1 Hour need Vauban Greedy Mag Nekros”

[wicked iron]

Good times. 😄

[flat magnet]

I kinda miss only needing 1 “relic” for multiple primes but the current relic system is deffo better

[wicked iron]

I kind of want more lore on the towers in the Void.

[flat magnet]

when 1 hour void survival was challenging

[wicked iron]

There MUST be a few surviving Orokin on at least one of those towers... Right?

[flat magnet]

Idk the Tenno were pretty good at what they did

If they’re surviving they would still be hidden

wouldn’t survive much longer if we find them unless they’re “good” like the entrati

[wicked iron]

Exactly, yeah. It would be cool to find some more. And to one day help the Entrati get back regular bodies.

[chilly pine]

i imagine theres the other issue is the fact the orokin can still die of old age (if im understanding the one scene in TWW right), tenno did enough damage fast enough that any we didnt kill stayed in the void or wherever in hopes we didnt find them and they just... died out

[nova harness]

Albrecht went to a whole other earth

[obtuse gyro]

I mean we did have surviving orokin, ballas, the grineer queens, nihil, the entrati

[nova harness]

What’s the thing we put Nihil in actually called

[wispy jasper]

An oubliette

[wicked iron]

Ballas and now Albrecht have been the only two still actually normal-ish, though. I wonder if there are more, elsewhere.

[thick jolt]

Funny jar of mocking

[nova harness]

What happens if I smash this jar?

[chilly pine]

is loid considered to be orokin?

[nova harness]

No

Albrecht never married him

[thick jolt]

I wonder
We would probably need more solid info on cephalons

Cause he is basically trapped there and without conection to the weave

The question would be if that is now his only storage or if its actively blocking attempts to escape

[nova harness]

So much Cephalon lore is missing

[thick jolt]

Like i feel there must be a reason to just store him there instead of smashing

Maybe smashing would allow escape within a couple of second from absolute destruction or smth along that line

But yeah not enough info

[chilly pine]

could be a "just in case" situation, like if something came up and we needed his help, not that he would help

[thick jolt]

There are always ways to trap people who think that highly of themselves

Batman vs ridler style

Maybe trap isnt the word

Like lead him into giving a hint or the actual answer

[chilly pine]

yeah, i suppose it could also be a "im not who i used to be" type thing, going with justice over vengance or whatever caused the massacre

[thick jolt]

Nah too orokin for that

With them its better to use their obssessions against them

[chilly pine]

i mean us locking him up instead of killing him

[thick jolt]

Hmmmm

Its more so my bias but i dont feel that was the case

[nova harness]

Should’ve killed him lol

[thick jolt]

Think the usefullness idea is more likely than the changed person idea

[chilly pine]

yeah i suppose it is a stretch, doesnt help that i dont know where we were in the main story when that plotline happened

[thick jolt]

Bcs there is no questioning orokin need to be punished for their actions

But also cant deny their knowledge is very valuable

[chilly pine]

especially when basically all of it was lost

[thick jolt]

Yup

[chilly pine]

i do wonder now how much of that knowledge still exists in the libraries of the entrati labs

[thick jolt]

even if its there albrecht probably put some sort of lock on it paranoid as he was

[nova harness]

He didn’t need to put a lock only a few people knew how to get downstairs

Entrati family don’t even know the labs exist

[chilly pine]

yeah, the only people to even know they exist is us, natah, both loids and parvos i think

[nova harness]

Dante probably did too

[chilly pine]

and even then idk if parvos actually knows of the labs. yeah dante is another one who wouldve, since he worked with loid there iirc

[thick jolt]

yeah but that usually doesnt stop paranoia

[nova harness]

He probably wasn’t in the labs during Dante Unbound stuff

Parvos quite likes Granum Void

[dusty dome]

do we have to 'emote' to get into the gemini skins or can they be freely equipped

also would be nice if we can customize their parts- like arthur's head on umbra's body or soomething

[jovial bison]

From what I've seen, you can freely equip it without having to emote first

You can even use it in your orbiter, dojo, relay etc without emoting

[jovial bison]

I'm pretty sure we won't be able to change the body to tennogen, deluxe or any other skin. It'll be a seperate slot of customization. Although you'll be able to change their hair and eye colors

This also goes for the helmet on the protoframe body, not interchangeable

[balmy storm]

I don’t see why that would be the case, in theory it wouldn’t be difficult due to how Warframes work customization-wise

Like all the gemini skins are is a fancy helmet that allows voicelines to be played and a normal skin with a different model

[jovial bison]

Hair color right there

It removes the option to change helmet on the skin

[balmy storm]

Interesting
That is also the dev build but we are a lot closer to 1999 so

[jovial bison]

Yeah, but that's the expectation they're showing off on a devstream

Of course it's placeholder but I don't think they want us mixing skins with protoframes

[balmy storm]

I still stand by my theory that they could work, whether or not we will actually see that functionally idk, it looks like not but I’m willing to put out a degree of hope

[jovial bison]

Oh yeah I bet it could work too, I just don't think DE will let us lol

[balmy storm]

I really don’t see why not, it inherently limits customization
Only reason I could think of is a backend reason

Like for some reason their heads are too complex to just be a helmet or something

Also depends how they made the models ofc

[jovial bison]

I think it's basically so then you have to use a protoframe fashion and a Regular fashion

Can't have two regular fashions from an emote maybe

(can't as in DE just wants it that way)

[balmy storm]

Maybe, but there’s def a way to do that without limiting customization too heavily, like just check if the proto’s helmet is present

Cause if its their face that’s important just have it so those can’t be changed but the body still can

Maybe Aoi having disconnected arms is too weird to them

[jovial bison]

I still don't understand how we're going to customize between regular and Gemini skin fashion if there's only 3 default configs

Does it just use A/B configs to swap when you use the emote? No idea

[balmy storm]

I’d assume you have to select which slot you use

[jovial bison]

So then basically you'd have to either buy a new slot for the protoframe fashion if your configs are full or say goodbye to a fashion you made lol

[balmy storm]

Fully expecting a bug where you can glitch the gemini skins so you can use other skins to crop up on launch ngl
And if that happens and gets widespread maybe they’ll change their stance

[balmy storm]

Yeah, let’s hope it’s not that

Could be if the gemini skin emote is on you can just swap to that? Idk

We know so little how these skins work both gameplay and lorewise lmao

[jovial bison]

Just imagine going to e prime as Arthur and Aoi lol gonna confuse a lot of mr0

[balmy storm]

It’s gonna happen lmao

[jovial bison]

Gonna feel super awkward having a new tenno see me in a Gemini skin

I'll feel like spoiler mode all over again

[balmy storm]

Though, I wonder if they’re doing gemini skins like this so if you have spoiler mode on they look like default versions

[jovial bison]

Speaking of spoiler mode, Arthur on Excalibur Umbra sounds hilarious

[balmy storm]

If that’s the case I can still see a potential workaround for alt skins but idk

[balmy storm]

I swear if they lock excal umbra out of being able to use Arthur 😭

I hope it’s something we can do and that he still does voicelines if you go into your tenno

[jovial bison]

I know they're doing voicelines when you swap in/out of operator for sure

But I'm not sure what Aoi would be doing lol would be really funny to just see her stand there like Mag while Arthur can walk around

[balmy storm]

I hope they have different voicelines for drifter and operator

It’ll be weird if your romanced proto says something to the Operator that’s clearly meant for Drifter

[jovial bison]

I don't think so, at least not from what I've seen. Seems like they're doing moreso quick lines like

"I'll be right here when you get back"

"Waiting here!
Stuff like that

I don't think they're gonna differentiate between operator and drifter, even though I'd love them to

[balmy storm]

I more so want them to cause the interactions between the two would be cute

I can so see Arthur calling the Operator “kid”

[jovial bison]

That'd be pretty funny lol

Who knows, they might add more, but what's there already seems more generic but fitting to the character

[balmy storm]

Ye, we do know there will be unique lines for romanced proto(s?) though at least

[jovial bison]

Yeah in the quest and I would assume maybe around the relay?

[balmy storm]

I mean when we’re using them via gemini skin

With Aoi she has a unique line if you swap to her once she’s romanced

[jovial bison]

Hmmm I haven't seen that one yet, might have to take another look

[balmy storm]

It was during the Koumei devstream in Japan

I’ll try to find it for ya

[jovial bison]

Ohhh you mean like during the Gemini skin animation?

I thought you meant swapping from spoiler mode to aoi

[balmy storm]

https://youtu.be/8ZqZV3NzxOU?si=adQ5tqxequnHSsx-

[balmy storm]

Ooooh no sorry

[jovial bison]

Yeah the Gemini skin transition will probably have custom romanced lines but switching between spoiler mode to aoi/Arthur etc prob won't

[balmy storm]

Yeah

They’ll def have unique lines once romanced, whether thats just the gemini transition idk
I’d assume there’s more but we shall see

[rain otter]

I don't know if aruther is gonna ever see the operator.

[jovial bison]

He definitely will 100%

[jovial bison]

Also, Dm'd you about it (:

[balmy storm]

[balmy storm]

Lorewise they should since it does seem the Protos will be coming to the Origin System somehow

[dusty dome]

exactly

[balmy storm]

Like there’s gotta be an explanation for the skins

[rain otter]

I wonder how they will do that. Like will we have a point of confirmation Or something

[jovial bison]

If you swapped to spoiler mode and it automatically changed you back to your normal Warframe skin while you're out, people would be so disappointed lol

[balmy storm]

It’d make sense though, though I’d assume if you have spoiler mode on you can’t see other protos

[rain otter]

I hate spoiler mode being on tbh.

I'm sorry. I'm not but I'm sorry.

[balmy storm]

so for example a new player or someone with spoiler mode on would just see a normal frame

[balmy storm]

Don’t turn it on then

[rain otter]

I don't.

[jovial bison]

Oh I didn't mean actual spoiler mode, I'm just used to calling the operator that

[balmy storm]

It exists for content creators primarily tbh

[rain otter]

Fair.

[balmy storm]

Ooooh lmao

[rain otter]

I remember this

[jovial bison]

My bad, should've clarified lol

[balmy storm]

I do too but I thought you meant the actual setting 🤣

[rain otter]

Remember when Operator sucked before The Zariman?

I Remember.

[balmy storm]

Yeah

[jovial bison]

Also just realized maybe I misread what you meant, like operators seeing protos during gameplay or story reasons?

[balmy storm]

I remember spamming E on thumpers with Zenurik to entirely slow them

[rain otter]

Drifter is the one going 1999

[rain otter]

Now we just press 2.

Smile.

[balmy storm]

Yay :D

[jovial bison]

Yes, okay you meant story then lol my bad, yeah no Arthur will probably never meet the operator but definitely the drifter

[balmy storm]

Void arc better give us a 3 and 4

The protos will be going to the origin system somehow, they will meet the Operator
Just probably not during the quest

[rain otter]

Oh I don't know but I'll always take them buffing Varazian and Naramon.

[jovial bison]

I would love 3 and 4, as well as new weapons other than the Sirocco and melee combat like someone asked at PAX

[balmy storm]

In a semi-recent trailer there’s a brief shot of Arthur in the lab

[balmy storm]

I still want Drifter with Tigris 😭

[dusty dome]

is that arthur or us using his skin

[balmy storm]

Remember that?
Remember Planes of Duviri
Or when it was supposed to be a lost city on Jupiter

[rain otter]

Lmao

[balmy storm]

The skin seems to be them so doesn’t really matter
But it was a cutscene where it seemed to be his first time arriving

[rain otter]

I like current more tbh.

[jovial bison]

I've been here since update 6 🥲 old tenno

[balmy storm]

It was a very brief shot unfortunately

[balmy storm]

Isn’t watching the game evolve fun?

Remember when we didn’t have a skylight
Just a cramped roof

[jovial bison]

Very fun, feels like a completely different game since I started lol

[jovial bison]

Or no ship at all

[balmy storm]

I’m not that old lmao
Sounds like wild times

[jovial bison]

You used to have to trade out mods to actually use your abilities

Like abilities weren't always something you had, you literally had to mod them on

[balmy storm]

Omg i just remembered channeling melee
I don’t think i ever figured it out before it was removed lol

[balmy storm]

I do remember seeing that from old footage

Were you around for super jump?

[dusty dome]

oooh like talent tree sorta

[jovial bison]

Yes

[undone lodge]

Were there exclusive mods for each Warframe or could you mix?

[jovial bison]

From what I remember it was similar to what we have now like for example Neutron star for Nova would take up a mod slot

You couldn't swap abilities between frames

Again this was like over 10 years ago

[dusty dome]

wow

you guys have been playing that long

[balmy storm]

I hope Warframe comes out of beta soon

[dusty dome]

respect

[zenith jacinth]

Old

[balmy storm]

I’ve been around for ~5 years

[dusty dome]

damn

[balmy storm]

I feel like I joined at a mixed time and tbh the game has just been getting better since New War ended

[dusty dome]

imagine being there when every quest released

must have been hype for yall

[balmy storm]

Like I love New War and a lot of the updates between that time but since Zariman its just been banger after banger for me

[zenith jacinth]

Imagine being there when nothing major was happening for like 4 years

[balmy storm]

I was there for a lot of quests iirc but the biggest one was New War, which was somewhat recent so 🤷‍♀️

[dusty dome]

i started playing like three ish weeks ago

[balmy storm]

The 2019 roadmap whiteboard was actually the craziest thing ever

[jovial bison]

A mod posted a couple pics earlier today of old Warframe

I don't have anymore pics of it because it was just way too long ago for me to bother saving

[balmy storm]

I hope you’re enjoying the game :D
if you can stay away from spoilers, unless you’re all caught up

[dusty dome]

Yes i managed to clock in all the quests last weekend

[zenith jacinth]

I think I've been playing for about 3.5 years now

[dusty dome]

hell of a ride

[balmy storm]

Nice! I hope you enjoyed them

[dusty dome]

Sacrifice has been my favorite, i got the frame which made me install the game so- super happy

[balmy storm]

Nice!
The Sacrifice is a great quest

I’ve heard people call it the best
But I heard that like 5 years ago so times have changed

[zenith jacinth]

Nah it's still the best quest

[balmy storm]

Its def one of my favorites

[rain otter]

Idk it's the best but it's up there still.

[jovial bison]

Some more images of what Warframe looked like around the time I started

[zenith jacinth]

Music

[balmy storm]

But whispers was too good to me
And 1999 is shaping up to be amazing
And Jade Shadows is. So good

[rain otter]

Yeah it was bad.

[dusty dome]

Super jump?!

that sounds interesting

[rain otter]

I feel like we don't talk about how bad old warframe was.

[balmy storm]

Trust me, I’m not saying the Sacrifice is bad
It’s far from it

[rain otter]

It was bad

[jovial bison]

It was really bad lol

[balmy storm]

I am fully expecting Soulframe to be the same ngl

[dusty dome]

i named the kid Orion

[balmy storm]

Give DE like 10 years and they cook

[rain otter]

Lmao it was jusr bad. Even like 2016-7 was bad in ways like I can't even imagine now.

[zenith jacinth]

Ah, the mystical super jump

[jovial bison]

From what I've played they have a huge headstart but I guess we'll see where they're at in a few years

[rain otter]

Like playing a earlier verison of the game even a few years old feels so bad.

[balmy storm]

I hope Soulframe doesn’t get stuck on a major arc for several years

[rain otter]

Like imagine all the pet buffs not being in.

[jovial bison]

Remember paying for revives

[dusty dome]

was it like a leap which cause aoe dmg on landing or something

[rain otter]

Like image hydroid being unusable lmao

[balmy storm]

I’ve heard mixed things personally but visually it looks stunning
I also like the revival system

[rain otter]

No just big jump.

[zenith jacinth]

I hope no major historical event happens during an important part of the story

[balmy storm]

There wasn’t parkour yet, no bullet jumping

[dusty dome]

no bullet jumping???

[rain otter]

Yep

That's actually kinda recent.

[jovial bison]

When coptering came around, we were gaming

[zenith jacinth]

Bullet jumping was an accident at first right?

[rain otter]

Yes.

So is Nova speedva kinda.

And that was just made way less annoying and actually a toggle for the ability.

[jovial bison]

Lots of accidents turned features over the years

[balmy storm]

Tbh I think another problem was the 2019 roadmap whiteboard
They wanted Duviri, Railjack and New War in the same year
Which adds to my personal theory that Deimos was meant to be post-new war or during it somehow?? But due to Covid the opposite happened
Interestingly the deimos tennocon bundle was heavily new war themed from what I recall

[zenith jacinth]

Old warframe gameplay was bad, but old warframe graphics look good imo

[jovial bison]

Look up Zoren Coptering lol

[rain otter]

It was supposed to be post.

They have said that.

[zenith jacinth]

I still want them to reintroduce the big empty island from the og duviri teaser

[jovial bison]

Yeah it got moved forward bc of covid

[balmy storm]

I still want Tigris Drifter

[jovial bison]

Or more duviri content in general

[rain otter]

Diemos was like the

Out of the Bad vibes time.

Like Parvos into Diemos is what got us out of the Bad Zone.

[balmy storm]

This was not all happening in one year

[jovial bison]

I'd say Fortuna really got us out of the bad times imo lol but maybe that's just me

Not everyone loves Fortuna but it definitely was a huge update

[zenith jacinth]

The chouch had a head back then?

[jovial bison]

Unless you mean railjack bad times

[balmy storm]

Railjack was uh

multiple 12 hour wait times…

Remember when we couldn’t even drive the railjack yet?

[rain otter]

I meant like the Pain Zone which was from like Lich starting till Deadlock.

[jovial bison]

I just wish they could've stuck to their original vision and improved it significantly lol the current railjack mission structure is bleh

[zenith jacinth]

I remember having to wait the full frame build times to get limbo back when I was new

[rain otter]

I am a RJ lover currently but it was really really bad

[jovial bison]

Ohhh yeah I agree then lol

[balmy storm]

RJ was a lot worse yeah

[dusty dome]

planes of duviri?

[balmy storm]

Its def better but could use more

[balmy storm]

Early Duviri concept

[dusty dome]

ohh

[balmy storm]

It feels like Duviri went through so many concepts ngl

[rain otter]

True

[jovial bison]

My main gripe with current railjack is that the railjack part feels for the most part as a loading platform before you start your actual mission. Like survival on railjack, just doesn't feel great to do at all

[rain otter]

I think we got a really good version at the end.

[zenith jacinth]

Now limbo only takes 1 minute per bp

[rain otter]

Sure.

[zenith jacinth]

That only applies to corpus rj

[balmy storm]

It was a lost city on Jupiter
Then the “Planes”
There was that time there was greek myth voicelines
And the landscape being made from the Zariman
And whatever the Paradox initially was

I was not expecting them to land on what they did but I do love it

[jovial bison]

Yes, this is true

Maybe that's why I hate doing corpus RJ lol

[dusty dome]

call of the tempestarii humbled me when i tried it for the first time

[balmy storm]

I’m not even sure if the original Duviri teaser makes sense with what is known now lmao

[zenith jacinth]

Corpus rj are just regular missions trying to "fellow kids" their way into the fun mode

[balmy storm]

Did that to one of my friends too

[balmy storm]

LMAO

[jovial bison]

Also I love how there's a sentient damage mod for RJ

[balmy storm]

Yeah why is that there

[zenith jacinth]

Fashion?

[balmy storm]

Don’t we only ever fight sentient fighters during the new war???

[jovial bison]

They were supposed to have a whole sentient space faction but nothing ever came of it

[balmy storm]

Like was it literally just to prep us for the like two railjack portions????

[jovial bison]

Just like modular archwings

[zenith jacinth]

It's fashionable to have a pointless mod

[balmy storm]

NO NOT MODULAR ARCHWING 😭

[balmy storm]

I love the peculiar mods, we need more

[zenith jacinth]

That's why I use sure footed

[jovial bison]

I say bring them back, make them cost 5 forma and level to 40

[balmy storm]

new headcanon, peculiar mods somehow utilize conceptual embodiment for their effects

[balmy storm]

Maybe with Tau

[dusty dome]

only that caliban fellow does Tau damage ye?

[balmy storm]

Yes, he is half sentient

on his father’s side

[jovial bison]

Not sure we're gonna get Tau for a longgggg time

Especially with 1999 being such a huge thing, I'm okay with them waiting a long time for Tau

[balmy storm]

I meant maybe with the Tau update
Which may or may not happen someday

[balmy storm]

Wr def aren’t going to Tau anytime soon

Lorewise we have no reason
Outside of that the current arc is void focused

[zenith jacinth]

And half warframe from the formerly living turd's side

[dusty dome]

OOH, the part i didnt get was- Was he a warframe that got fused with sentient powers/parts By balls or did erra use a warframe part and imbue it with Sentient powers

[balmy storm]

I can absolutely see them revisiting Narmer and that leading to Tau in like. 5-6 years

[dusty dome]

Ballas*

[jovial bison]

I would honestly hope before a Tau update, we would've gotten a full tileset remaster at that point

Some of these tiles are really showing age

[balmy storm]

Erra made Caliban, we don’t know the process but presumably something similar to amalgams?

[zenith jacinth]

Erra made caliban during the old war, reason and method unknown

[balmy storm]

I agree tbh

[jovial bison]

5-6 years, Kahl is having a workout saving every brother

He's gonna have a massive army by then

[balmy storm]

I say presumably amalgam cause that’s the closest we’ve seen plus he made the Archons which are another warframe/sentient “fusion”

[balmy storm]

Perfect for Tau!
Though I’m not sure why we’d need an army for that quite yet…

Cause again, we have no reason to go
They aren’t an enemy, not yet anyway

[zenith jacinth]

Caliban seems closer to archons than amalgams to me

[balmy storm]

Tau’s just chillin’

[jovial bison]

We'd also need to swing back to the Stalker/baby before then lol

[zenith jacinth]

Just visit 'em

[balmy storm]

Archons are sentient pieces on Warframe bodies
Amalgams are a fusion of human and sentient

[zenith jacinth]

Don't let me visit though or kahl will have a use for his army

[balmy storm]

I could see us visiting to save the Lotus

[dusty dome]

save the lotus?

again :(

[balmy storm]

Maybe she gets forever changed or damaged from this arc and we have to help her and the only ones who can are in Tau

She has sorta alluded to that happening, her changing again

[dusty dome]

speaking of lotus

[jovial bison]

I'm wondering if the Lotus will be around for much longer if at all after 1999 is done with

[dusty dome]

what form did yall chose for her at the end of new war

[balmy storm]

She kinda has to cause she has skins…

[zenith jacinth]

She has cosmetics, lotus is staying

[jovial bison]

Might become the witch 🧙‍♀️

[zenith jacinth]

The morally best one

[jovial bison]

I mean they could do what they had while she was off with Ballas and have her as a hologram again

[balmy storm]

Lotus, to me it’s the only identity she chose
Natah was who she was born as
Margulis was a personality forced onto her
But the Lotus is who she became

[zenith jacinth]

Not really

[balmy storm]

Literally everyone would hate that lmao

[jovial bison]

I agree lol I would

[balmy storm]

What I can see happening is maybe she become playable somehow since she has customization for energy that isn’t used afaik

[zenith jacinth]

I will personally punch ordan for every player if holotus returns

[balmy storm]

I’d say how are you gonna punch Ordis but… nvm lol

[zenith jacinth]

[balmy storm]

Cephalon power

[covert tree]

It's not his fault

[jovial bison]

I do wonder how long this void war arc will be, I really hope they stick with 1999 for a very long time

[zenith jacinth]

He could just not pretend to be the lotus

[covert tree]

He wasn't pretending to be lotus

It was a back log of everything she says in missions would you rather ordis actually do the instructions

[balmy storm]

Well Whispers was the start
But also with how they organized the Arcs it could literally be 4 quests total (whispers, eaters, 1999, finale)

[jovial bison]

The way they did the quest organization seems so wacky

[balmy storm]

We’ll have a good idea after 1999
Or not
Probably not

[balmy storm]

100%
I disagree with some placements and some quests got pointlessly excluded

Like I’m sorry but Zariman is totally part of the current arc smh

[jovial bison]

Yeah it would be so confusing to play without half the quests being there lol

[balmy storm]

Not every quest needs to be included

But there’s like
2 quests that should be in there that aren’t now

[jovial bison]

Couldn't agree more lol

[balmy storm]

A new strange and angels iirc

Zariman as a quest is bad but its still important

[jovial bison]

I'd have to check but yeah that sounds right

[balmy storm]

OH AND DUVIRI
Duviri is hard to place though but it has easy ties to new war

[obtuse gyro]

duvuri should have been a post TNW quest

[balmy storm]

It can go before or after new war, technically it’s whenever but realistically just have it before or after new war

[covert tree]

I played it pre nw

[jovial bison]

Zarimans quest is kinda bad because every voiceline is reused once the quest is over and it felt super rushed

[balmy storm]

It happens during act 1 of TNW anyway lmao

[jovial bison]

Yes this is how it should be

[covert tree]

I knew drifter going in wich kinda helped me actually give a damn about him

[balmy storm]

The tileset, faction and everything else but the quest were amazing but the quest itself was a glorified tutorial with a handful of cool moments

[obtuse gyro]

the basic reqs for warframe gear is so low that you really only need to farm for a necramech and railjack, you can use the circuit to smash out harder to farm warframes after

[balmy storm]

they need to update the warframes that are in the circuit

[jovial bison]

It was literally a mode introduction quest lol

What's void flood?
What's void armegeddon?
What's void cascade?

Here you go player (:

[balmy storm]

Fun fact, equinox isn’t in the circuit cause she has too many things you have to make!

[covert tree]

That's bs

[balmy storm]

Like I like those gamemodes and the character and the tile but c’mon 😭 it was really a “that’s it..?” Kinda quest

[balmy storm]

Its not lol

[covert tree]

But she's a "pain to farm"

[jovial bison]

I had my wife start Warframe a while back and she kept asking if it was over now 🥲

[balmy storm]

Equinox has 9 parts including her blueprint
There’s 10 tiers in the circuit
So to have her you’d lose out on all other rewards, including mods with just enough room for one of her augments

[balmy storm]

😭
Yeah Zariman the quest is a slog

[covert tree]

Or bundle her day and night parts together

[jovial bison]

Sounds like equinox needs to be simplified to me

[balmy storm]

But literally everything else is amazing, its just a bad first impression

[balmy storm]

YES
THEY DID IT WITH HER PRIME LMAO

[dusty dome]

god bless nataruk for carrying me through that, its was mildly annoying

[covert tree]

Why did they make her gimic part of her crafting

[balmy storm]

That’s still too many

[covert tree]

Oh yeah day and nights main bps

[dusty dome]

i think she is is insanely powerful considering all those parts

[jovial bison]

Everything gets better when they get primed lol

Can't wait to get Vorunas 4 legged fourth ability so she can run around like a wolf once she gets primed

[balmy storm]

The aspect blueprints yeah

[covert tree]

Maybe put those with her main main bp

Idk

[balmy storm]

I’ve always loved Xaku
Their prime is literally perfect in every way (except they didnt get a trailer but that’s cause 1999 so its okay)

[zenith jacinth]

...yes.

[balmy storm]

Yeah maybe, but I’m not sure how easy that’d be to bundle multiple items into the circuit like that

It seems they took the easy method of just ignoring her
Poor equinox

[zenith jacinth]

Seems unpossible

[jovial bison]

Every time there's a Winter update, the frame that's released or the prime too sometimes are bound to be forgotten for years to come

[covert tree]

I love equinox I own her prime it's pretty

[balmy storm]

I’ll never forget my funny bones

[jovial bison]

I forget qorvex exists

[balmy storm]

Xaku is thematically fitting for the 1999 update so its fine shhhh

Cyte-09 will not be not be forgettable

[dusty dome]

banger looking frame

[jovial bison]

I don't think so either

[zenith jacinth]

Cyte will inded not be not forgettable

[balmy storm]

Like maybe gameplay wise but he has Quincy so

[covert tree]

Also bc quincy

[balmy storm]

Cyte > Qorvex

[zenith jacinth]

Qorvex is great

[dusty dome]

Qorvex is goofy (in a nice way)

[covert tree]

True he big rad lad

[balmy storm]

I do like him, he’s silly

[covert tree]

Tall head

[balmy storm]

Paired him with octavia’s helminth
Very silly

[zenith jacinth]

I like using qorvex for radiation hazard sorties

[balmy storm]

He should be made of Lead

You messed up Albrecht

[zenith jacinth]

He should be full of heavy water

[balmy storm]

Heavy water warframe when

[jovial bison]

Would've been awesome if his beam was the same as the mumur worm enemy

[balmy storm]

Yareli metal skin?

[jovial bison]

I freaking love Yareli, what a solid frame

[covert tree]

I want a frame that has self distruct

[balmy storm]

Wouldn’t make much sense but would be cool
My friend really wants a murmur inspired frame tbh

[jovial bison]

Yareli Prime is gonna be top tier

[zenith jacinth]

I think he got a pretty concrete design as is

[balmy storm]

Couple years ago I would disagree hard but I like where she is now :D

[dusty dome]

it should have a another smaller frame inside and when you press a button you should pop out of the bigger frame

and the bigger frame becomes a nuke

[balmy storm]

har har
I’m deleting your system32

[zenith jacinth]

Reverse sevagoth

[covert tree]

Nah a quick craft one time use bomber frame

[balmy storm]

and also they get a tiny pistol

[jovial bison]

She's insanely op now lol invincible with 2, super duper high secondary Crit, and massive vulnerability on her 1

[zenith jacinth]

How do you master the frame? What do you do after you explode it?

[balmy storm]

Heck yeah, we love when frames are good :D

[dusty dome]

Aye, and when you shoot stuff with the tiny pistol you can generate energy and get the big frame back

[covert tree]

I think of it like a gear iteam

[balmy storm]

Don’t push 4

[zenith jacinth]

4

[balmy storm]

💥

start over

[covert tree]

Like the breacher moa with transference

[dusty dome]

the ability should have a 4th wall breaking name (cause the way it kills everyone in the room)

Maybe something like - "Dont nerf that!"

[jovial bison]

Could be like protea and time reverses and it rebuilds your broken frame

[zenith jacinth]

I would leave the server for a minute for the joke but I was gone long enough already

[covert tree]

Is it stupid yes unless yes BUT

[balmy storm]

Tbh I could see that being an augment for Xaku’s 4
Turning it into a nuke that you have to earn back, maybe a reverse version if their play style where they have increased defense when their 4 isn’t active but you start off without it?
Maybe that’d just be better as a separate frame idk

[balmy storm]

I’m pretty sure a warframe exploding is not pleasant for the tenno 😭

Cause it does seem that when you transfer to something you feel what it feels

[covert tree]

The tennos had worse

[zenith jacinth]

Being one with a walking demon core doesn't seem very pleasant either tbh

[covert tree]

I dont think the tenno feel the warframes pain bc the tenno are extremely reckless

[zenith jacinth]

Also apparently qorvex has an augment‽ And it's really good‽

[balmy storm]

The feeling of blowing up to death is worse

[undone lodge]

She’s so gas

[balmy storm]

Real

[balmy storm]

Maybe we are in gameplay but in lore?

[covert tree]

If I'm thinking of a one use frame that blows up I'm thinking of a silly joke frame like a bp that's in the market April 1st

[zenith jacinth]

Isn't it mentioned somewhere that some tenno fought with their void beams during the collapse

[simple python]

In some cutscenes, promotional, event cutscenes, etc. The tenno do get hurt.

Not just us. Random tenno. Old operation cutscenes.

[balmy storm]

The tenno can absolutely feel pain

[simple python]

I'd imagine that Excalibur Immortal and Mag that got dissected by Alad probably was left comatose

We just... never saw what happens to a tenno that gets their frame killed pre-dream.

[balmy storm]

Iirc Gara blew herself up and the Lotus mourned the loss
My interpretation was the tenno controlling Gara felt the pain of exploding and the pain caused them to go brain dead

[sonic cedar]

Mirage's quest has one too

[balmy storm]

Cause personally I don’t see a reason why the Lotus would mourn a frame when her connection is to the Tenno

[simple python]

Ah. Yea

[balmy storm]

I might be thinking of Mirages but I’m not sure
I just remember a frame blew up and the Lotus mourned

[sonic cedar]

I need to look at Gara, but i remember doing the Mirage quest and Lotus was talking about mourning Mirage

[simple python]

Tbh it reminds me of the war within when the tenno first gets continuitied.

[balmy storm]

Likely cause a Tenno was lost

[simple python]

For some reason. Warframes have a "soul". It's more like a sentient core.

[balmy storm]

I was probably thinking of her then

[balmy storm]

Oro 👁️ 👄 👁️

[simple python]

At least... pre-reworks for the sentients I remember sentients not dying unless you took their core.

Yeah.

Not the eidolons, just the regular Lua sentients. This was pre-railjack.

[balmy storm]

Whatever Oro is it seems you have it if you’re a sapient being
Though Albrecht throws shade to the idea of Oro cause his cat clearly shoes a personality so Oro can’t exist???

Minus the void entities maybe too, they maybe can’t have Oro?
At least Wally maybe doesn’t have it but wants it???
Maybe????

[simple python]

Why would his kavat not have an oro?

Tbh there's a lot more going on with albrecht. Enough for me to say despite his achievements, maybe the dude suffers a little

[undone lodge]

It was not necessary to explore queasy debates about the Oro; animal minds simply lacked the full distinction of a singular persona. My Kalymos, I was sure, was an exception, but I would not sacrifice that loyal being.

[rain otter]

Albretch just calling it stupid is still so funny to me.

[balmy storm]

Same lmao

I’m excited to find out if Kalymos is like the Cavia

[obtuse gyro]

Oro based on the function of the oro works and albrecht's shade appears to be a consciousness thing

So basically kalymos was like chesire for albrecht

[night grail]

Yes

[covert tree]

Same

[night grail]

Id argue zariman is a continuation of the new war personally. Kinda like how kahl has veilbreaker and stalker has jade shadows but it is absolutely should be included

[covert tree]

I stand here corrected

[night grail]

These lines were removed however likely because they were annoying

However nothing suggests the canon has changed since then

[nova harness]

I wonder if the Warframe feels pain if the Tenno gets hurt

[night grail]

I wouldn't think so?

While yes the Tenno and warframes more or less become one while using transference, that link is at least interrupted when we pop out of a warframe

[worthy canyon]

At Fortuna, I only now noticed there is a second ||hidden entrance in a vent||. I don't know if I'm missing something in there

[worthy canyon]

I thought most warframes were not conscious anymore

Btw interacting with Ordis on the camp while equipping Jade...

[simple python]

So you're saying someone can draw Albrecht in a Pinafore dress?

[obtuse gyro]

Yes

[simple python]

And now the lines are coming back with 1999.

Not the tenno themselves, but voiced lines for the gemini skins that are clearly synced to the very same action beats as the cut operator lines.

[wicked iron]

A what now?

[kindred yoke]

i went to customize my ||drifter|| the other day and could not stop laughing for like 30 minutes. i was CRYING.

[nova harness]

I think they need plastic surgery

[wicked iron]

[obtuse gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wizard-of-oz-dorothy-gale-yellow-brick-road-judy-garland-gif-27475365

specifically that dress

[wicked iron]

Gotcha!

Thanks. 😄

[zenith jacinth]

It looks like that one andrew tate meme

[simple python]

The dress Alice wears Lewis Carroll's novel, Alice in Wonderland

[timid island]

I was replaying WITWs again bc why not and I realised that whatever Wally was saying before the labs started getting eaten up by sand and stone sounded like “Rap Tap Tap”

[nova harness]

That is what Wally says

[timid island]

It just sounded neat cus normally he’s all like MARA LOHK or whatever he’s screaming at us in Voidtongue

[nova harness]

He says a lot of things

One is rap tap tap

The second encounter with him he says it

[night grail]

Yeah he does say that

Its even got spatial audio too

Rap (right ear) tap (left ear) tap (both)

[thick jolt]

Well he usually doesn't say rap tap tap
Its usually the literal tapping of his fingers as seen in the classroom flashbacks and the reliquary drive itself in the rj

[kindred yoke]

the panning kept getting me oml

[humble wharf]

If you look at the quest for harrow it plays there too

[young orchid]

i cant help but think Zeke is just attack form Deoxys with RTX on

[native snow]

looks more like normal form deoxys

[young orchid]

true. i keep forgetting normal deoxys can unfurl his arm tentacles too

[ripe crypt]

Oh.. that's a guy..?

[native snow]

who, Zeke?

[ripe crypt]

Yeah

Like the corrupted version.

Wait are the Coda's the boyband that was infested?

[wild copper]

Yes

[gray shuttle]

i'm in the last stages of new war and i got a question that's bugging me: why the f*** did ballas give us the paracesis sword? like at the time it made sense cuz he was pretending to be imprisioned by erra but.. if that was a deception from the start, why would he give us a sentient slayer sword???

[obtuse gyro]

the mans a master of manipulation, he managed to get us to build and bring a weapon to him for him to shank us

[zenith jacinth]

He gave us the idea of paracesis so we would build it and bring it to him. It was originally required for the quest, but I guess DE realized how terrible it is to farm

[gray shuttle]

ooh that makes sense

[simple python]

Oh my god.

Someone should totally make their drifter Hayden Tenno

[queen mirage]

and romance arthur

[simple python]

You get it

[covert tree]

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

[simple python]

Hmn. How does the texture look on the suit?

[gray shuttle]

what just happened at the end of the angels of the zariman quest?? one second they were like "oh no we're succumbing to the song!" and literally 5 seconds later everyone is fine like nothing happened? what?

[obtuse gyro]

You. You happened

[fading current]

They drew power from us

[fading current]

Tenno: "Quinn! You're still… you!"

Quinn: "We changed. Oh, we drew power, but from a very different source. You have noticed it's not just the Reliquary that can work miracles with the Void, yes? I wonder… do you even know just how brightly you shine?"

[kindred yoke]

did he just call me the warrior of light lol

[analog osprey]

Yes you have met another tenno if I remember correctly in one of the story quests either angels of zariman or new war you are in a ship with alot of different tenno atp correct me if I'm wrong

[nova harness]

New War

[obtuse gyro]

The most you get are pre-tenno tenno, excluding that time you found remnants of rell

[analog osprey]

Ah I see

[fiery turret]

That was technically a illusion of a flashback if that makes sense I remember that vividly

[fiery turret]

Yeah but that was a corpse wasn't it?

[obtuse gyro]

Its not a flashback, its a timeloop

[analog osprey]

I did not get the rell quest at all

[obtuse gyro]

Rell was "alive"

[fiery turret]

A timeloop of a flashback

[analog osprey]

In harrow?

[obtuse gyro]

Yes

[fiery turret]

Fair enough

[obtuse gyro]

Its not really a flashback if youre actively reliving the events

[fiery turret]

Fair enough

[warm robin]

I did... a while ago. mostly trying to match proto-excal skin to have both in a 1999 vibe. the dex sleeves give that one side has technocyte look

but it's the opposite which is nice for pictures, left side on drifter right side on excal umbra

[rain otter]

get the Refecia kit

[tight pagoda]

You can be blue, Void abomination

[nova harness]

Join the blue people

[amber terrace]

Would it be cynical to say that Gemini skins are probably gonna go the way of Voidshells where a good number of them are put out with pretty okay support, but are ultimately forgotten about?

[thick jolt]

Probably what will happen

They gotta be more expensive than usual to make

[amber terrace]

I’m mostly salty that Hildryn often feels left in the dust

[wispy jasper]

Feels like providing “backgrounds” to the proto characters might be more of the limiting factor there. Like doing the work to design a whole new person that fits in the 1999 style.

[amber terrace]

The only Prime Access worse than Hildryn’s was Trinity’s, she doesn’t even have a non prime noggle, she has no voidshell, no Leverian, only one Tennogen item, no alt helmets released post launch, the only thing she has kinda going is a deluxe skin that looks decent

[wispy jasper]

I kind of expect them to be very popular because there’s a subset of players that really wants to have regular hot humans to dress up. Personally would rather have voidshells even with their limitations.

[amber terrace]

If DE were to add a Hildryn voidshell, I’d literally drop everything and get all the voidshell skins from the plat market just for maximum customization(even though I’m probably not gonna use most of them)

DE! Make more Hildryn content and my life is yours!

[fading current]

I mean they’ve pretty much confirmed they wanna make more protoframes just depends on how the community will react to the first batch we get with 1999. So if you want a more powerful or useful frame then the 6 we’re getting, make it known! They’re listening

[amber terrace]

Hildryn isn’t the most popular frame, so I’m fairly certain that I’ll be one of a frustratingly few people wanting a protoframe Hildryn

[fading current]

But people want muscle mommy…they need her…

[prime raptor]

I still want an answer to Ballas from Parvos in the form of a tenet protea

[jovial bison]

I think the reason they are not putting out voidshells is because they weren't popular. Gemini Skins will inheritantly be popular just like how deluxe skins are. I doubt they'll disappear quickly if at all. The only reason they would stop is if we stop wanting them or creatively they can't continue doing them.

[tight pagoda]

Yeah a big issue with Voidshells is that they don't feel as customizable as advertised. Not every material looks good with others, or even on their own, and some slots just don't make sense-- sometimes there's going to be a flexible part and it won't feel right to put a rigid-looking material onto it.

Plus the fact they're limited to the base-versions of the Warframe skins in terms of modelling.

[atomic halo]

Voidshell would be great if they could be applied to more skins.

[covert tree]

I will it's the cheapest thing there

[rain otter]

It gives funny orokin Blue skin

[covert tree]

Ik

I can read

[simple python]

100% at least Nova will at least get a protoframe project. Or Rhino. Those two seem to be like the ones people are talking about after the hex.

Oh right... Saryn, Frost, Loki, and Ember, and Ash. To be fair out of the others I only heard Saryn, and Ember. Both had different reasons surrounding them.

[covert tree]

Maybe og frames only

[simple python]

I wouldn't mind just ogs

[covert tree]

It'd draw people to those old frames like ember heirloom did

[simple python]

The old frames aren't bad... but like Nova, Trin, and Nyx so far. Their updates to their kits to streamline their values are needed.

Maybe they could do a stat stick "rework" Elimination in the future

[covert tree]

Ik just some are a bit unfairly forgotten

[simple python]

I mean I get it. I do play the older frames some times.

[covert tree]

I enjoy the older ones I've played ash is just stalker vise versa

[quick mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/ihsoka-chrollo-dramatic-gif-21478331

Nah it's completely different

It's in how you feel sasuke

[soft pumice]

was thinking about it. since this (posibly) his exaulted sniper rifle how would he "put it away" like would he molecular absorb it in to his body. or would be holster it?

[fading current]

Probably just dissipates like the exalted blade or something

[soft pumice]

exalted blade makes sence since that a sword of just pure energy

[fading current]

Yea…trying to think how it’s gonna look when he uses it haha. We’ll find out tomorrow at least.

[thick jolt]

Its been quite a while since ive used him but did they change excal to also have a physical blade like with umbra?

[soft pumice]

I'm going off what we see in the gameplay of Arthur since proto frames are different

[simple python]

That is not his exalted

People PLEASE stop this nonsense. That is his signature sniper rifle.

[soft pumice]

He both has a signature sniper and an exalted sniper

[simple python]

It's not his exalted

[soft pumice]

So what's this

Until tomorrow dev stream it's up in the air

[simple python]

Well clown, you may have won the fistfight but we'll truly see.

[soft pumice]

Ok young tenno.

[zenith jacinth]

Same with any other exalted

[soft pumice]

Garuda Talon's, mesa Peace keepers, dont disappear they get holstered.

[zenith jacinth]

Ivara's bow, seva's shadow, wukong's staff, khora's whip, valkyr's talons

There are more exalteds that disappear than ones that don't

[soft pumice]

When we start adding them to the mix it takes away from the fact proto frames are different and have more realistic limitations

[zenith jacinth]

They don't

The protos are just like normal warframes except that they're still partially human on the outside

[soft pumice]

Wait and see until 1999 comes. As gameplay elements and lore eliments sometimes don't get protayed right.

[zenith jacinth]

Same to you. We've actually seen protos do things that the regular frames can't do in aoi's advanced metal manipulation

[nova harness]

Protos bar Eleanor are just regular Warframes without a helmet that can talk and see

[north trail]

they have full voicelines so yeah

also i doubt they'd do more gemini skins without properly introducing the character in some sort of content

[fading current]

Meg kinda talked about their ideas for more promos in the future in this interview she did
Everett: “I think it would be obviously a missed opportunity if we didn’t do more Protoframes. There’s no more coming in 1999. We have the six, and that’s The Hex. We will, and we want, to do more Protoframes. I can’t say that we will commit to all of them, but it’s definitely in our minds and our plans to do more Protoframes.

“Again, there will be some strategy behind it in terms of which ones we would do and which ones narratively fit within the story that we’re trying to build with this. It’s all strategic in terms of the next ones, but they’re brewing. They’re in the brain.”

[covert tree]

More of me more of me

It appeared after I touched the finger

[rich elk]

When does the everything come out / gets released

[covert tree]

We dunno

[rich elk]

They teased so much im hard for too long ... hard interested 👀

[fading current]

We might get a release date tomorrow, but honestly expecting they’re gonna wait till the game awards to tell us

[simple python]

Imagine if they goop and gag us with "released today" at the game awards.

[balmy storm]

December

All we know is December from official sources

Potentially the first week or second week of December
Hopefully not the third so they have at least a week of time to hotfix major bugs

[simple python]

True that. Hope they hark back to dark sector... anyone play that game btw?

[balmy storm]

Everyone since they made it free lol

[simple python]

OH

What is it btw? Is it just like early early warframe? Spy-focused, clandestine, espionage-type missions?

[nova harness]

Hey, I haven’t

I’d need to plug in my 360 to even buy it

[balmy storm]

Its free on steam

I need to play it still

[nova harness]

It’s free on steam

But I’d need to plug in my 360

[balmy storm]

why

[nova harness]

Because it wasn’t made in the Xbox one generation

Nor the series generation

To get it backwards compatible you need to buy it first

[simple python]

That is so sucky.

If it become backwards compatible why can't they enable cross-gen purchases.

[nova harness]

DE would need to do it I think

Just assuming based on GTA 5 re releasing like 6 times

[covert tree]

Update ITS CLOSER IT DOESN'T HAVE A HEAD

Nobody else find my clone creepy just me ok

[balmy storm]

Nah it’s creepy alright

[simple python]

Everyone's got em

[covert tree]

Wtf

He's getting closer that's what freaks me

[balmy storm]

Give em a hug :)

[nova harness]

Give them a head

[hoary seal]

Wait - did my sister just steal more credits than I got? That's some serious finance skills

[slate solar]

she's innovative, I'm surprised more of them don't use putting you in debt as a means of attack

personally, I'm still wary about what silly the clown here is gonna try and pull with me

[hoary seal]

aint mine a cutie?

[slate solar]

she has a beatiful smile

[covert tree]

Mines normal asf

[soft pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/oompa-loompa-doopity-doo-umpa-lumpa-gif-11791424

[woeful patio]

Gauss was so fast that his head couldnt follow

[covert tree]

It appears in the entrance animation and I teleport to another part of the ship

[plush swan]

How accurate is this:

Corpus and Grineer have propaganda about how they're the good guys and helping people and all of that.

The Perrin Sequence and Steel Meridian are what happens when they buy into their own propaganda and decide to actually try to live up to the hype.

[ember mulch]

Its been a while since I visited my orbiter in warframe, but ig i wont be coming back too soon

Can't believe Hayden 'dark sector' Tenno broke into my house, said "its 1999 time" and gave us all dark sector for free

[zenith jacinth]

Very extremely inaccurate

Grineer propaganda is about serving the queens, corpus propaganda is about profit at all non-monetary costs

Meridian are deserters, most of which are that due to a defective loyalty gene. Perrin sequence is just a slightly less ruthless corpus faction

[balmy storm]

Meridian does specifically help civilians and other defectors afaik

Iirc they’re the only syndicate that specifically helps civilians

[zenith jacinth]

Yes and yes

[plush swan]

These are some quotes that led me to my speculation on the Grineer/Meridian side:

Sargas Ruk: "You think you are guardians? Grineer rule supreme! Grineer protect all!"
Sargas Ruk: "You Tenno, you fight for treasure. You are just another Corpus machine to me!"
Sargas Ruk: "Are you just mercenaries? Fighting for scraps? Where is this so-called Tenno honor?"

Steel Meridian Crew: "I still hear them calling us to obey. Oh, I want to—very badly. Always ends with a bulkhead dented and my hand busted. Disobedience isn't a choice I only make once. It's a fah-sukh-ung lifestyle. And it hurts."

[zenith jacinth]

Although many defectors also refuse to join the meridian, like kahl for easier stealth operations or the defectors from the defection missions due to not wanting to fight

[plush swan]

The Corpus/Perrin one draws from a lot of stuff Ergo Glast and various Corpus say. Notably: the Frohd Bek / Ergo Glast interactions in the Ambulas boss fight

[zenith jacinth]

Ruk is just taunting the player, and some meridian still have a more or less intact loyalty gene

[flat magnet]

I knew Rusalka wasn’t a protoframe

[fiery charm]

I know time travel makes anything and everything more complicated, but did the protoframes originally exist or did Entrati create them when he went back in time to help defeat the indifference?

[obtuse gyro]

second one

[reef dirge]

Will the Greatest Despair release officially on spotify? I want it so bad

[flat magnet]

Should be released after the stream so should already be live

[reef dirge]

I didn't see it. Maybe takes a bit

[fiery charm]

Dealing with time travel is draining sigh

[obtuse gyro]

dont worry, 1999's time travel hasnt made any weird loops, its literally old man goes back in time to do things, no foreseeable major effects on the future

[graceful zodiac]

Unable to watch steam, DE made a confirmation?

[flat magnet]

Yeah

[obtuse gyro]

explicit

[fiery charm]

I'll just throw away the butterfly effect and call it a continuity error

[obtuse gyro]

wuh?

[fiery charm]

Well if you were to go back in time and create a super weapon, you'd expect that to influence the outcome of wars

[graceful zodiac]

Good thing that's not what happened

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, the protoframes themselves also dont want to be protoframes, so its not like theyre going to be used in any major conflict to shape something thousands and thousands and thousands of years in the future

[real niche]

We're not doing a bootstrap paradox. We haven't got "Protoframes somehow led to the creation of Warframes in Orokin Era"

[fiery charm]

I'm probably thinking too much into with it with the given information

I hope it's explained further once the content releases

[obtuse gyro]

explain what?

well, no, thats when the events of the quest takes place

[rain otter]

No we always knew that it took place on new years eve.

[supple dagger]

I'm afraid the next gamemode will attract a lot of toxicity in the community. Player complaining about x person not have the ''right'' frame or player using frame like Limbo to grief the gamemode.

[rain otter]

Limbo needs a full rework but also I think it will be fine.

[fiery charm]

A more canonical explanation of the connection between 1999 and the orokin golden era

[obtuse gyro]

well for starters, theyre many many many many many years apart

we know this from the info we already have

[rain otter]

THERE ISN'T A CONNECTION other that Albretch went there to GET AWAY FROM WALLY

We know that.

[thick jolt]

well thats why they added a pve only version of it

[supple dagger]

I hope you right, I'm a rail solar veteran, the last time we got pvpve content in warframe and it wasn't really good

[rain otter]

The whole point is that it's far enough away that Albretch thought he could get away.

[rain otter]

I know what you mean.

There is a safe guard for this cuz it will have bots if they team doesn't get filled. @supple dagger

Which no other pvp mode has had

So at base it can't like die like all the other modes.

[real niche]

Yeah if Conclave just filled with CPUs that might help draw people in, but if this is how they're going to "kill" Conclave, oh well.

[supple dagger]

Lunaro didn't deserve that fate tbh.

[rain otter]

I mean sure

I don't care. I thought ever conclave mode should have been removed before this so like lmao.

[real niche]

I wanted the skins, man

Some of them are so cool

[rain otter]

I mean now we will get Them lmao.

[real niche]

Yeah exactly

Finally, too. It's so annoying having rewards you just can't get without having to set something up with another player

[dusty dome]

I still feel that Saryn will get a proto skin

Them playing Saryn on the stream was kinda cheeky aye?

Saryn will not be getting a proto frame in the 1999 update

Maybe a questline leading up to it?

[oblique dirge]

there has been literally nothing anywhere official suggesting saryn has anything to do with 1999. not their fault if some people convince themselves on a crackpot theory

[zenith jacinth]

They already confirmed that they'll be releasing more, and saryn is so popular that it's inevitable

[flat magnet]

At least Conclave will make a small comeback with it, I can actually max out the standing now

[flat magnet]

I’m happy I’m right about Rusalka not being a protoframe

[dusty dome]

Good for you

If not Saryn getting to see some 'bad-guy' proto frames would be interesting

But yeah I guess the quests and time will tell

[dusty dome]

Ah i see

[flat magnet]

I wonder if they’ll do something to explain how the protoframe skins can survive in space / no life support areas

a simple shield overlay over their heads would work

[zenith jacinth]

Visually it wouldn't even have made sense

[zenith jacinth]

Same as normal frames

Not well

[flat magnet]

yeah that’s why I was confused by people swearing that it was Saryn proto

[zenith jacinth]

People just wanted playable mommy proto

[flat magnet]

It’s just more obvious with the protoframes having exposed human heads

[dusty dome]

Rusalka looks more like that boss on Sedna than Saryn tbh

[nova harness]

Leakers taking Ls will always be satisfying

[graceful zodiac]

Because as much as it doesn't work, the Major still contains portions of Saryn's shape language

It doesn't work as a proto, but could still be a Gemini

[zenith jacinth]

Those are the same thing

[oblique dirge]

the only shape language the major shares with saryn is the color green and having shoulder decorstions (that are completely diffferent)

[formal grove]

it's a shame On-Lyne's tour had to be postponed because Zeke came down with a bad cough

I hope he gets better soon

[obtuse gyro]

the major is majorly taller than saryn tho

[graceful zodiac]

Is she? Did they show her model off during the stream

[obtuse gyro]

er, more like folks dug around

[graceful zodiac]

Then I must hesitate on that

[fading current]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIvZyjHRhI&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.warframe.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE

“We’re going to give you a sneak peek at some of the animation in the film. This sequence focuses on Eleanor as she battles inner turmoil. Now transformed into a Protoframe, Eleanor communicates telepathically, having lost her voice due to the spread of the virus. She’s kept close by her protective brother, Arthur, who can also be seen in this sequence.
Get ready to see these siblings in a whole lot more action!”

[night grail]

The unenlightened masses

[jovial bison]

Here are some screenshots for some translation peeps

[flat magnet]

Isn’t it the same as the room behind Arthur? I think it’s already been translated

[jovial bison]

I literally just noticed that

[flat magnet]

[jovial bison]

But that last image is new!

[flat magnet]

DE saving resources reusing assets

[jovial bison]

Looks like Aoi is hotly contested

This line is hilarious omg

From Eleanor

Looks like this room got a rework of sorts

[jovial bison]

New signage around the mall too

[flat magnet]

They better make it actually silenced because that’s quite an oversight even if it’s a hand cannon

[jovial bison]

This is definitely because of all of us pretending we work at Big Bytes

Have we seen this before?

Any guesses what these might be?

Scaldra can use turrets on cars

[jovial bison]

It seems like this outfit has been delayed

These are a nice surprise though

[tropic ridge]

I wonder if we'll get to decide who's the top or bottom in the 1999 relationships...

But also really hoping DE adds more Proto Gemini frames down the road. Mostly Ash, Loki, Rhino, Frost, Banshee, Nova, Ember and Saryn

Could revamp that Rhino boss fight from Dark Sector to 1999, have us save Gemini Rhino from within a big Tech-rot golem monster or something

[trail comet]

Pretty sure Eleanor is biting her own tongue to get it to stop: #de-livestreams message

[fading current]

Yea it def looks like it!

[arctic sorrel]

JOJO REFERENCE SPOTTED:

[proper oak]

YO U CAN MAKE OUT WITH THE PROTOFRAMES?

[formal grove]

remember how the community agreed to gaslight everyone into thinking On-Lyne has always been around?

I kinda managed to pull it off in another server by mentioning how On-Lyne's tour has to be postponed because Zeke came down with a bad cough

[delicate lagoon]

Aww. I wish there was operator versions of these outfits.

[atomic swift]

So am I crazy or did I see ELEVEN On-Lyne songs when they were looking at the Somachord vendor?

[formal grove]

not just you

[atomic swift]

Well, I for one am thoroughly looking forward to hearing the rest of them

[amber terrace]

Decent Tenno glasses? WE ARE SO BACK LETS GOOOOO

[formal grove]

removing the cooldown on MR failure is icing on the cake

[tight pagoda]

Not all of these are OnLyne tracks, it might just be album cover art. The Call and Numb, for example

https://youtu.be/BjL2r2FoYcM?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/Qm5EYJJL2Qs?feature=shared

I’m guessing a lot of the other ones are generic combat music too

[fading current]

“The call” is so dang good omg

So is feeling numb. That one sends shivers throughout my body

[zenith jacinth]

...atomicycle abilities?

[gilded cedar]

Am I the only one not liking having more PvP stuff added?

[fading current]

Eh it’s an ok addition I guess. Gambit but warframe lol

[gilded cedar]

The gambit part is fine, but it does not feel enticing to be against other players xD

[trail comet]

I am eagerly waiting for the songs from Arthur's tank battle and run through the techrot in the gameplay preview during the con.

[fading current]

You mean his walk through the underground after the tank battle? That ost? I think that’s a version of “feeling numb” I’ll have to go watch it again

[gilded cedar]

I'm surprised to see a bunch of Somachord tunes from the Devstream

[trail comet]

yeah, but it def had different words

listening to feeling numb rn, through the link above and it's definitely different.

[fading current]

Yea I could see that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pouHflhUUO4
kinda like this one?

[trail comet]

shots in the dark? lemme take a listen

the tank battle is at about 10 mins into the gameplay demo. the techrot sewers thing was aaattt... 13 mins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi0fgygNwvk

[jovial bison]

well yes lol but based on the glyph

[fading current]

Oh yea that’s def more action intense.
The one I linked feels more lowkey like the ost that played during the demo if you stayed idle long enough

[trail comet]

some screamin' metal. 😆 The techrot bgm was calmer tho

[fading current]

Oh definitely😆😆

[trail comet]

I can only hope it's at least in the somachord tones. 🥹

[fading current]

Same…hearing that in my orbiter would be beyond heaven

[formal grove]

okay, so we know that Eleanor is the "kind of disgusting, but in the best way" kiss that was hinted at

I bet an Ammo Drum that it's because she and Drifter do a French kiss

[reef compass]

you get a free stomach cleaning while at it

[fading current]

Lmao but yea I def see drifter telling her it’s ok and she doesn’t have to hold back or something and the tongue comes out again

[reef compass]

coils you by the neck with it and then just the tip gets in

[rain otter]

I mean it's the best PVP idea they have Had.

Cuz normal PVP sucks for Warframe.

[thick jolt]

Not like theres any need to worry
They explained in the devstream that there is a version of the gamemode without the pvp part

[amber terrace]

I may be going nuts here, did DE say that the PvPvE mode would give conclave standing? I distinctly remember hearing that in the Devstream but my memory isn’t what it used to be

[obtuse gyro]

Yeap

I heard it too

Celebrated it even

[amber terrace]

From what I saw, the PvPvE mode is giving D2 Gambit but actually tolerable vibes

[obtuse gyro]

Theres no invasion, which removes a chunk of the cancer

[amber terrace]

Knowing myself, I’m probably gonna play the living heck out of the PvPvE mode until I scorch myself out on it and not want to touch it again for a few months and then get back into it as a time killing machine

When the update comes out, I’m gonna need to remind myself to buy the 1999 Tenno cosmetics so my Drifter won’t look completely out of place

I’m thinking either goth or grunge but tbh I’m leaning towards grunge ngl

[jovial bison]

So we are getting a dormizone style apartment in 1999

here's what we made in #decoding-signal-1999-arg

[amber terrace]

Speaking completely honestly, I genuinely hope DE doesn’t find a way to make Albrecht as grating as they did Ballas

[gilded cedar]

I wonder what are exactly the cosmetics Amir sells, like decorations? Sigils? Emblems?

[woeful patio]

"girls with machine guns"seems interesting

[velvet meteor]

They showed it already though? Or did they say it's not final?

[gilded cedar]

It seems like cosmetics, otherwise I don't know what it's going to be

[velvet meteor]

He sells guns and frame parts + stickers
Quincy sells protokol cosmetics from nightwave and some other stuff

[tight pagoda]

Stickers are likely for the Atomicycle

Wouldn’t be surprised if he sold other Atomicycle customizations for Plat too

Since IIRC he was the Engineer

[gilded cedar]

That'd be neat

Wouldn't it be funny to have a Gordon Freeman sticker

[plush swan]

Awakening: "This is your Warframe."
Second Dream: "This is your Operator, your weakpoint."
The War Within: "Actually, your Warframe is also a weakpoint."
50 million Focus XP, ten Waybounds, ten Amps, and hundreds of Arcanes later
"Actually, your Operator isn't your weakpoint. Your Warframe is."

[gilded cedar]

The New War: "Your Operator is a weak point anyway. Say thank you to your alternate self for saving you."

[woeful patio]

They wanted to make the protos scary with the infested tongue..

Too bad...

Im into this.

[balmy storm]

Just Eleanor

[balmy storm]

Most of us are (they know us well)

[balmy storm]

YES

I’M THIEVING THAT ITS GOLD

[woeful patio]

EVEN BETTER.

I wonders...

If we... Date trinity and kiss pablo mom..

We are getting banned?

[gilded cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxo76seiwJw

[jovial bison]

She was definitely biting it back in with her vampire teeth

[balmy storm]

Thanks Kiddo

[tender pine]

is this screenshot actually real, from the ARG game

[balmy storm]

yes

[gilded cedar]

Yes

[tender pine]

I didn't realize this was a thing, but this is so creepy lmfao

[balmy storm]

We uh
May have mucked up a lil

[tender pine]

what does it reveal?

[balmy storm]

We may have done something he wanted
Maybe again

Nothing else

Wait til 1999

The ARG is over

[tender pine]

ah

we end as we began

[balmy storm]

We end as we began

Which
If we’re being literal will be with a man and a key

[tender pine]

good lord, some real ominous stuff in there, the sort that we're gonna probably look back on and me be like "it was literally right in front of us"

[gilded cedar]

We end as we began sure, but how about we begin as we ended?

[balmy storm]

dead…?

[simple python]

Is that why she can't speak?

Albeit she has gained telepathy too...

[still moat]

i was real dubious on cyte from the get go

but the site gave me some hope for him

the devstream showing a custom UI for one power to let him use every element, though?

that's still pretty niche, admittedly- It's a power that only really works for the weapons with the largest magazines in the game, and anything you have to reload frequently is not super worth using for it- But they appear to be Going Hard

he might actually be a great frame, despite his theme being counter to typical warframe gameplay.

also, hmmmm

[proper oak]

when will the update drop?

[still moat]

from the stream

invis is around 15 seconds, and resets to 15 seconds or so when you get weakpoint kills

however, if it runs out, it has a 20-something second cooldown timer.

Sorta like gyre.

as for it's release date, they're going to reveal it's release date at some upcoming game awards i think, arounddd the 28th?

hopefully in the "out now" sense

[nova harness]

12th

We will get an answer

[still moat]

could be 12th, yeah

[flat magnet]

She was affected by the infested a lot more than the others have, which is why they’re wary around her because they’re worried she’ll become feral and attack them

[simple python]

They could probably release it on TGA, and perform some big fixes before they go on break. You never know with them but it seems their testbuild from the stream had other people in it?

[flat magnet]

It’s the dev build so all devs have access to it

[simple python]

They can't stress test that server tho can they? So... we might still have some issues there as always.

[flat magnet]

As long as they don’t release it then dip (RJ update) I’ll be happy I don’t mind if there’s a bunch of bugs as long as they get fixed

At this point a buggy release is kind of expected

[simple python]

The uh... god the thing... what is the thing!

The chair.

[flat magnet]

I’m super curious on that

[simple python]

🧍

I don't doubt they'd like have removed said chair.

[flat magnet]

They’ve worked 2 months on it I don’t think it’s something they can remove

[simple python]

But if they're keeping it in tbe cutscene... geez. I thought it'd be the random tf loadbearing chair.

[flat magnet]

well something happens to / with the chair that much is obvious

So it’s not just any chair

[simple python]

Literally hide it behind the wall cause it can't be deleted without breaking everything

[flat magnet]

I’m sad they didn’t show a 1999 deco vendor

[simple python]

Oh you mean furniture

Yeah. Give us the cursed chair de.

[flat magnet]

Yeah

They probably cut a lot of stuff out in the devstream because the vendors looked quite empty

[simple python]

Oh right... I didn't... read the comic. People complained about Quincy but I haven't... read it yet. How bad is it?