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The grineer at the start of new war
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The veilbreaker guy
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Kahl solos all with his army of Tenno brothers
He can try. But heās gonna get the biggest butt whooping of his entire existenceā¦I hope.
Itās cool Kahls brothers literally have all races from orokin Tenno grineer corpus bro a true menace
This why Kahl my goat
I hope the vessels are actually utilized more in this war against Wally. Let me have more and more customization options lmao
lol Kahl better be featured hard or Iāll riot
I want to see Kahl leading the charge
Nah fr. They all have a part to play in this void war.
The grineer?
mhm
They could be the present day protags. While the hex are our āpast timelineā protags.
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All the written languages are phonetic english
Obviously with our drifter there to support the hex. Cuz DRIFTERRRR
Although the spoken ones aren't necessarily
Grineers are bio engineered lab tub creations made by the orokin to fight before tennos but they been devolving
We only really hear important characters speak English because Plotā¢ļø
So thatās why they sound stupid
But the random grineer troops do have speak some very broken English
And i think corpus are a very mutated english replacing sounds with others?
The grineers that weāre holding the sentients back before the warframes were made were like the strongest most handsome grineers factually space marines
Grineer on they way to cook some sentients back in the old war
Cut them some slack they lab tub babies with devolving orokin technology
š life already hard as a grineer
Ehhhh not holding back but the first grinner worker that was the basis for the grinnee soilders killed one with a auto hammer.
Chads fr
Grineers walked so we can run
So technically the original grineers were like space marines?
Yeah yeah they were like space marines right
I didn't know where else to post this but since it happened in Duviri I thought I'd go here. My partner was playing Warframe and this happened.
We love you Suit with 0 abilities and the inability to collect energy.
Suit my beloved
Who is suit
Its suit
How do I get them there perfect for my playstyle
Outside of duviri idk if there's still a way
There must be I'll do anything
I think maybe if you sell all your warframes (and have umbra get captured by zanuka) then maybe but they might have patched it
Which i don't suggest doing
You could try having them all get captured
But thats also a terrible idea
When you get downed by the zanuka hunter
So it's rare? I'm assuming I've only fought zanuka on the first alad boss
Its the corpus assassin
Theres stalker, grustrag, and zanuka
The grineer and corpus you get marked from doing invasions a lot of times
So they're not super common to see
Yeah ik I've never encountered it outside of its boss fight
I remember one day there was some bug where the objectives just didn't work and my squad got a grustrag spawn which immediately opened up extraction
Didnāt they say āthe new factionā? So is scaldra a new sub faction of grineer or a complete new faction?
Eh idk probably new faction because they are pre grineer grineer
So is scaldra a new sub faction of grineer
Nope. Theyre largely unrelated as far as we are told
In response to a "proto-grineer" comment, reb specified that the grineer and the scaldra are spiritual design siblings
Huh neat
what if new grineer take more inspiration of scaldra design/damage and we would get more grineer that are no more reskinned but "difficult" one that will literally use more gas/corrosive proc
they already have their transference disruptor but well
They're Militaristic Industrial Brutalism.
Oh my god tho. The corrosive procs from enemies hurt. We've only seen it so far in albrecht's lab...
Wait-- 
No hold on where did my comment about what the design aesthetic the grineer tended to pull from go. (And by extension similar design ecosystem for the Scaldra.)
The chempunk body horror is common across them, yeah.
As far as inspiring new enemy behaviors with grineer, hopefully. Both with new infested and scaldra thereās some clear design emphasis on telegraphing attacks. This is pretty important for any plans to move forward with designing big hard hitting attacks, iterative on some of the murmur stuff weāve seen,
Both with new infested and scaldra thereās some clear design emphasis on telegraphing attacks.
Good game design at its peak (nihil is still hit the hardest)
I would say was unclear to me in demo if the weak point targeting was being improved with the glowing sacs, since bursting them didnāt seem to do much. Might just be unimplemented at this stage.
Iām really looking forward to the game randomly spawning a chunk of diving runners and blowing up a squad which does not have robust aoe protection
Ofcourse, Trumna was an Orokin Era weapon, didn't use Orokin tech
Thatās not what the Prime nomination means, anyways.
this guy is going to be very surprised when he realises who made the non-primed warframes and weapons
Literally all weapons are Orokin design bar Zaws and kitguns lol

A Prime Kitgun would kill the lore
eh, Corpus and Grineer weapons are their own, they've long separated from the Orokin to count as their own tech tree
True
I saw there was a big Reddit thread on Xaku Prime lore yesterday and elected to remain oblivious to its contents.
10 credits on "Its lore breaking"
Nobody in his post have told him who once made all the weapons
Well how do we explain Xaku Prime again?
Void Magic?
Maybe the Prime Trailer might shed some light on it (If we get one)
3 random Prime Warframes maybe
DE should absolutely not even address that point of contention. I want them to ignore it entirely.
Ballas: I made 3 primes but didn't like them so I cut them up and threw them into the void and Voila!
Welcome to Ballas' Cooking show
Because wally got his hands on primes and fused them/j
what part of xaku prime even starts to be lore breaking? its just an upgraded version of what was already formed in the void, probably done by albrecht
Or:
Ballas: Hey I like this one, I'm gunna prime it
or
Albrecht: Oh hey, a fellow survivor of the void, I'm going to make a better you
when people struggle to realise that a base frame and a prime frame are two separate frames and then start inventing random inconsistent reasons
Would be cool to have albrect voiceover some of these now
Start making him more of a spooky man
Albrecht has warframe experience, not unlikely
Does Xaku being next repair the release order issue?
Should be?
they have to have pushed xaku back for a reason, a trailer narrarated by albrecht that ties in to 1999 a bit is such a good opportunity
the break in the pattern is now FMX
Ballas voicing xaku prime : "What the hell is that ?"
More or less puts us back on regular order, but DE could always decide just to have fun with it now
They seem to enjoy us running around overthinking things
Also, now that DE make more and more telegraphed attack
It wouldn't be surprising that the dmg will be greatly enhanced against us, sure you could use shield gating but i think this is where trinity is going to shine
Trinity main š«”
GIving everyone 1k hp with passive abuse
itll probably just be chronological order for the most part now so itll be xaku prime -> lavos prime -> yareli prime -> caliban prime
caliban prime should get erra to voice a part of it like protea
Timing that with a Pazuul event could be fun
Trueee
One thing that i really hope is that It's pazuul + caliban prime + 3rd narmeered orb
I hope they make some updates to the base infested with the changes. There can be such a large amount of ancients in an SP instance and itās hard to tell when one is about to thwack you, but theyāre also basically paper dolls.
And cali prime should look narmer-ish
Caliban prime imagine how cool it cool be
A discussion between erra and ballas
From the new war
Pablo did say they would do that, no?
Unsure, I think they just showed off the techrot variant, but worth taking another gander over
yeah, you're right. He said they're reworking into 4 variants and revamping some of the effects
were the shown ancietn abilities also for the normal ones? or only the techrot
What I'm interpreting is the electric explosion is probably only for the techrot, but animation updates will probably apply to all of them with different effects.
Also they're reworking something with the energy drain one specifically
Melee gaters rejoice
rn we just have disruptor which steals energy and then the healer, which just heals surrounding infested i think
Don't forget toxic ancients
De's music department must have the weirdest life
Jade shadow = opera choir
Koumei = techno
1999 = rock
Whispers in the walls with throat singing... What will they bring after ššš
bring out the clingkle clangkle
De Will put breakcore fr
The Yaybahar, a weird string instrument that sounds otherworldly and beautiful.
That's the next instrument!
Ok what onyline member would you go out with
None of them, I don't want to become an infested 
Youāre immune to the Infestation
And already Infested if a Hex member
all of them
the guy who look like he is playing for high school movies but is 27 and has kids
Lmao love that description cuz itās on point
Heās the only one in my strike zone, realistically. If Iām getting a man he at least needs to pay rent.
He's the one who buys liquor for his buddies.
The fact that we can't romance on lyne member is sad
But i kinda understand bcz the liches system are based on hollvania, not normal mission
Scaldra are NOT grineer i am so tired of people saying they are ššš
Better get used to it
Will get worse after the update launches and youtubers start calling them grineer
I will cry (exaggerating)
Anyways I think a techrot nidus skin could be fire
Agreed
I remember everyone calling Arthur Hayden
Ooh nidus techrot with a screen head? Count me in!
Techrot nidus would actually be so much better than his prime
I remember all the thrax is actually rell theories too
Actually? I think a skin based on each of the different strains would be neat
Which then devolved into the whole "thrax is a tenno" theory
Some still think Thrax is
I think that one was from what teshin said mainly, no?
It was pre launch, and then after launch it just got worse
Pre launch i can understand
But after launch? With the diorama clearly showing thrax being born? Sigh
Some still think Thrax is Rell
Its sad because its clearly shown in the ending
Honestly i only recently realized that's what that even was icl š
I always knew tho
Thrax is doomed to a fate worse than death i think š
I think he will get raided more and more by wally
If they ever continue duviri storyline lmao
Many think the Lighthouse Guy is Rell too
I don't think the lighthouse guy is rell necessarily but they did have similar jobs
Like absolutely the same job
But nothing else connects them at all
Knowing the stuff can easily be explained by Albrecht teaching of horrors too
maybe the void has a weird way to connect one to another ?
It could be his CE somehow manifested in duviri and they were connected one to another.
If it's the case then it means... What would albretch if we kill albretch ? Could wally disappear ?
it's just wild assumption but we don't know if CE are that much connected
Killing Albrecht wouldnāt kill Wally
Yeah, Sythel talk about albretch somehow starting wally but iirc she doesn't tell that he actually made him ?
But also we have to think that if they are connected then the grave for Albretch is literal ? Or not ?
I think the grave is symbolic
If Albrecht killing himself would solve Wallly he wouldāve tried it
"I slipped away from those lands, silent and unnoticed. From their joys, their sadnesses. From the celebration in my honour. In her, they already had all they needed. My work, I now understood, must proceed from a different point."
Yep, not gonna lie the void is too much weird to be theorized easily š
I mean Tuvul somehow made eldritch demon (who were sadly not fought) from a grimoire. Yet we didn't made one ? We only made ourselves/Warframe look like the "demon" ?
Tuvul was panicked and in a hurry. If the grimoire he had also read him it may have summoned those entities from his emotions
a grimoire read you iirc
So it read how awful he was
We should be getting a Xaku Prime trailer for sure since we didn't get one for Sevagoth
RIP Tuvul: he will not be missed.
And the grimoire also read us. The Void loves preying upon emotions, especially those left unchecked. Tuvul might not have known that, and if he did he may not have had time to bother with keeping himself composed
But i kinda wanted to fight tuvul's monster
But i doubt DE have and will take time to make them. Tho it would have made much more sense to fight those instead of thrax units
To be fair, now that i think about it.
It make sense that the grimoire just made us, we're traumatized, we can't see ourselves in the mirror, everyone died in the zariman... And some could have even killed with their unchecked power parents,etc...
Like sure it wasn't their fault but the tenno could still feel guilty about this, but they didn't knew how to proceed, they didn't knew what truly is the void
I was thinking more that the Tales of Duviri was instilled in the Tenno. They're able to keep their emotions in check
This is from Voruna museum thing (canāt remember the name) right?
true, with how Margulis is said to have effective plan to make the tenno a good person... In an orokin era it's somehow one of the strangest things ngl š
Even the entrati are insane
Which is why nothing was summoned when we picked up the grimoire. There were no intense emotions for it to feed off of. Only harnessing our will to fight
now we throw fireball
Yes, there's a full description of those things
Its actually an electro ball i think right
You think if Eularia made an adult version they wouldnāt have gone insane? It seemed like tales of duviri were aimed just for the children
ohh true,
Then again she probably prioritised the children and assumed that the adults knew how to keep their emotions in check
True it's weird that tales of duviri was also not read to theparents, and now they're dead
But yet the holdfasts weren't that crazy iirc ?
Honestly? i think it would have saved some of them. Adults are not as malleable as children are. Not every one who read it would have really internalized it. But I do think it would have saved some.
I hope we get "lorn" island in the future, updating duviri... Please DE
We need to see duviri content š
I hope we get more duviri content too
The lore literally says there will be a time it will become important against the Indifference
maybe next tennocon where they would try to make more things about drifter, requirement of DUviri apradox being after a main quest instead of secondary
Bcz duviri paradox can be fun when you stack everything so maybe put it to use and give us more with it, there's koumei who also used the decree mechanics
I have attention defficit
help me figure out what this means pls
think this is tied to the arg. poke the people in #decoding-signal-1999-arg about it
Primed number
RAISED:
$128,730.40
WEāRE SO CLOSE
Bet tomorrow weāll get it
nidus but as a hex member sounds like the msot terrifying thing
Hex nidus us just someone who never showers and leaned to control there smell
Here's hoping we can get a "War Sector" skin for Excalibur since they brought back the old concept trailer for the ARG
would be so off to get this bcz of "low poly" since it mostly feels like spamming subdivision surface on blender
But it would be so cool...
I like the way this ARG is going, a "what if" on the dark sector, what if it was something else ?
I dont need the suit redesigned, just with modern graphics
They're pulling a bethesda and putting digital extremes in 1999
Tho this time i don't think we know if Rebbeca is actually an intern bcz iirc she was an intern and now became what she is today no?
just like how bethesda was in fallout 3
IIRC we're following sam paige's story no ?
Which is a character that has nothing to do with thier earlier game dark sector. Putting the company in doesnt guarentee the same people would be in the company. Rather, the ARG seems to be shaping up that DE might be a front for the technocyte to lure in talented people
thats my current theory at least
OHhh yeah definitly , second really feels like that
what if they fuse rebecca with lotus like how we did with drifter
That would be the funniest insert ngl
Except drifter and operator didnt fuse, thier timelines seperated
They're the same age chronologically
even if thier aging may have been affected
Noone gets a lotus skin for rebb but reb. We already know this. back to War Sector skin request. far more likely to happen
At the very least, a war sector skin is more likely than a hazzard suit
gordon suit for drifter...
Imagine how peak it would be...
Which we already have
wait fr ?
tbf it's close enough
amazing we can use this skin for 1999, roleplaying as drifter fighting the necromorph
But yeah, I love the millitary tech look of this excaliber design
Its that smelter suit from fortuna. go rp play with the infested today
But yeah, assuming the Hex gemini skins can change thier under skins, i'd love to have Arthur's harness on top of this
yeah i really realllllyyy hope we will go on the ground of eris bcz this fashion is so cool
w=we've never went on eris's ground but we know that it's hell in there
Isaac clarke? Is that you?
I did say that
I saw after I sent the message
I need all versions of excaliber in one game
I especially want to combine those last two concepts
It doesnāt appear they can unfortunately. At least what we saw in the Devstream.
Now:
$129,327.35
We are SO close.
i've made my drifter look as close to gordon freeman as i could one time
remind me in like 2 weeks and i'll show it to you lol
$129,447.81 š
Sorry Iāve not been up to date coz Iāve been without a phone what happens at 130k
The final stretch goal and a reveal of new Drifter cosmetics for 1999.
I think that's a low res version of proto excal
It's 100% not proto-excal
#spoiler-chat message
Lacks the metallic right arm as the biggest difference
Hmn.... but it does resemble him right?
You could say that of most excals. An excal still has to look like excal
Well, unless you're a free spirit like Zato
Ik, but the horn is notably more shaved down. And the helmet is rounded
Excal's head is squarish
It's from the 2008 concept trailer of warframe.
Eitherway, definitely not what we know as Proto-excal. Definitely released a video that has the 1999 earth refer to this version of the game as "War Sector", an obvious fusion of both Warframe and Dark Sector. Dark sector is the game we get protoexcal from
Oh god I forgot Warframe's older than me in concept
...
feels old man
That prime time last friday put me through it.
I was literally a kid with no knowledge and no skills when that concept released in 2008
...anyways. I just want the military tech look kid.
So do I! I have to sleep on getting the scaldra suit on release cause I don't got the money for it. Well... maybe if they release a set for it for plat I could sell some mods for plat.
No it's not that was before hayden I think
Feet š
Would be proto proto excal rlly considering thats the original pitch that investors forcibly turned into dark sector
Also parts of fhe armor shifted during the video depending on what felt like "modes" similarly to crysis
Stuff like stealth or tanking etc
Huh
SO everything is in plat right ?
Meaning that you would likely take around 1k plats to get everything
If we count more we also need to think around (13/2)x12+(5x13/3)x35 = around 837 plat for weapons
1837 plats to get everything in 1999 wtf š
they really put that much content
unless some outfits will be locked in hex vendor
also we can think that there's ax-52 + Other weapon like scaldra or protokol weapon maybe ?
DAYUM those boots looking BONITA
I only see feet
DE needs to add the ability to turn of shoes so you can walk around bare foot
Please
though i genuinely hope we get a little bit more freedom with drifter cosmetics. being able to choose different pants and shoes and such
Better yet. Jackets
Drifter: after adopting "Rebecca F" from the On-Lyne fansite in 1999 "Look at me! I'm the mommy now!"
Operator: "Okay granny" :3

Casual wear?!
What?
Not interested in an "I am my own grandma" joke?
no, but i am interested in adopting On-lyne
Reeeeally torn huh
I dont know about the pants, but im taking the jacket
Personally I just want the boots
The jacket is gonna be kinda funky with the arms being detachable. Guess that means it should also work as a vest?
they are baddies for sure
There's also a waistband option. Which makes me think... maybe they should revamp the suit system
But also like... that may be a draft that snuck in.
They're already behind in converting operator fashion to drifter fashion
the problem remains for any jacket they do make
What was supposed to be converted for drifter?
I mean, idealy every option available for operators would be available for drifters
Ah true. A little saddened the Javi Mask wasn't converted. The unmasked variant is so cool
But it seems DE may be trying to balance the options with drifter exclusive variants
I need to find a pic of my Drifter for this to work, so in the interim, which looks better?
Hmn...
We gotta think about thiss in terms of: Is this Modular
You can see it in the og picture, the goth outfit has a coat, yes, but it has a vest hoodie overtop it.
So I have conducted what I think is gonna be like the modular parts to this outfit.
Arenāt all suits modular though?
Excuse the non-pinpointed accuracy. This may be another case of like the drifter's outfit, where there's no visible waistband, but it doesn't just float there.
Yeah. But it's helpful to visualize and assess where it's gonna start and stop, how people can customize it.
Not sure how they'll address the 130k drifter cosmetic... it might just be a glaring case of "this just has stuff."
But also I think it'd be really weird to see the base suit that we see all the time with nothing equipped in the slot for these cosmetics... we'll have to see.
The outfit looks like something youād find in watch dogs imo lol
Noooo system update... brb
This is the Drifter in question
I didnāt mean to make them green, I couldnāt find anything good for the accent color so I went for Tenno II Row 1, Column 1
The look I was attempting to go for was blueish eyeshadow
why thee look like smiling and not smiling at the same time
I have zero idea
you achieved the mona lisa syndrome
wait not that one
iirc people said that she si smiling, and not smiling š
Guts, now Iāll have a 33 y/o Japanese salary man pining over my Drifterās hands
stalker?
Yoshikage Kira
Yoshikage Kira had a thing for hands that was started when he looked at Mona Lisa when he was a kid
Jojoās Bizarre Adventure
So does this have a possibility of showing up in game? Iād have to find the Twitter post where I found this. I know itās revealed because of QTCC, but Iām just now realizing that I donāt remember if DE said this would show up in game
Warframe: 1999 Drifter Teaser
Take a peek at this never-before-seen concept art of one of the Drifterās outfit coming in the 1999 Update!
So, yes it is
Why would they show us that teaser and not put it in the game lol
Warframe 1999, teaser for that major update
Absolutely goated, massive ups to ya 
It gave tracer overwatch smiling.
Hmn... maybe I should try my hand at femme-presenting Operator stuff... idk. What with the 1999 stuff actually upcoming... suddenly my Drifter matters.
Change your face every interaction so your 1999 partner is confused into thinking they belong to a polycue
must be wild to be an hex member
Seeing a person literally having plastic surgery on literally everything on them to mess with the hex
to be fair they're either fighting army with for some reason a lot of corrosives things or one direction
k i l l
Not me Radio Rebelling at a LITERAL DIGITAL MAN.

Oh my god it's whats his face
That would be a mercy for this creatureās suffering
It's Orokin Senshi!
Exactly!
You good tho? What happened to your drifter
If you have operator equipped but go to the Dormizone Captura, when entering Operator form, youāll instead get the Drifter with Operatorās proportions
Hmn. Weird
Iām just repping the Entrati skin colours we was invited in I gained the right
Fair
You may live
For nowā¦
I should get pics of my drifter. Hmn. Brb
I love seeing everyoneās operator/drifter looks. Theyāre always so unique from each other. Itās kinda wild!
āIām an Orokinā, yeah sure bud, just ease off the colloidal silver
Okay so none of the options I have to get my photos in high quality off my switch work.
Have these tho
Thatās operator dialogue isnāt it?
Do you have Operator voice off or Use Drifter?
I have the voice on and use operator
But these lines specifically
I have no recollection of ever hearing
Odd
Iāve definitely heard the āthe transference makes this hurtā line but maybe only twice
Where are these from? šš
Operator dialogue
Do you have hint transmissions on or off?
I think on
You probably just havenāt heard it yet
Yea cuz Iāve def heard some of that dialogue lol
We don't take health damage, mark mods, or get revived so stands to reason you wouldn't hear most of them
Iāve never heard these either huhā
Iāll have to try and test some of these
If the āthe transference makes this hurtā dialogue still occurs then that def process the Tenno feel pain through the Warframes, which Iām sure is said somewhere else too but thatās absolute confirmation
i never heard these
Oh so it means that the tenno feels everything that hurt them
how are they not insane ? they can get stabbed,exploded,etc...
The canon Tenno completes all their moving missions with perfect stealth never gets shot 
Then they paid plat to unlock Revenant
Does the stalker have a tenni controlling him or is he an unbra situation?
He can even talk unlike a regular frame
but seeing how Jade can technically become a Warframe we use, who knows now
But didn't hunhow say "you were just like them" when he was looking at our opperator
Hunhow doesn't know everything about the stalker
Hunhow: "All your dread-long life, you've waited for this moment⦠but you're asking yourself⦠'Was I one of these wretched things?'"
Hunhow never says Stalker is one of them
I guess i remembered wrong
This probably confused you Hunhow: "You know the answer. You still hate themā¦. You still hate⦠yourself."
Which if anything mostly likely means he thinks but doesnāt know it or is just him saying you hate them and you also hate yourself
IIRC jade was actually semi tenno controlled
And Stalker somehow retained everything from his sapience/sentience , maybe the orokin punished him by watching that he will never have his baby ?
The baby taking more than 500 years to come huh
Stalker forgot about jade
I don't think he would've hated the tenno for killing the orokin if he remembered jade
wasn't it said that the fact that he was powerless to do anything is the reason on why he was trying to kill the tenno ?
What
Tho it's not impossible that everything in his mind was conflicted, he would try to defend the orokin by killing even after what has been done to him
wait lemme find š
When the ninth beat rang, a torrent of blood filled the stadium, loosed by Tenno blades. The drums, the Empire, fell silent forever.
Now I hunt, dividing your numbers. Watching from that dark place, cataloguing your sins. I am the ghost of retribution. You may forget, but you are not innocent.
Hunhow: "Who destroyed the Orokin? Your way of life? Who do you hunt, Shadow, to cleanse your despair in their blood?"
[The Stalker walks forward, still warily observing the Sentient fighters. In response to Hunhow's question, he presents the object he was holding ā the severed head of a Loki warframe.]
Stalker: "Tenno."
It really feels like he is defending the orokin even after their falls, idk why but it always felt that way.
But it's literally conflicting with why he would hunt us, he got well his punishment, retaining his sentience to see his child take thousands of years to be born
Also it's strange but Reaper's lament doesn't talk about acolytes
Like it only talk about him acting solo
Hunhow: "It does seem tiresome. One monster to buckle against the weight of battalions. Little wonder you would seek allies, friends, confidants. Family. It has ever been their greatest strength and your deepest shame."
It make sense that it's a conflicted character with issue that can't be resolved alone (which is where the tenno come into play)
IF they continue stalker i really feels like they're going to introduce him with a literal squad š 7 vs 1 sounds funny
Because the acolytes don't work with him, they're just fans
Yes, he's trying to avenge the Orokin. That's been explicit from the beginning
Jade Shadow just gives the personal reason why, with the Orokin give he had no way to get his wife back
Can we say then that the acolyte are the first fanclub of Warframe
Arbiters
Ohh true
Stalker story is so sad, I hope we will go to the past and kill the orokins in our perspective
the baby. in the jade quest. what are your thoughts on that?
No Ordinary child
i feel like that kid would be a major plot point while the game progresses onwards.
It will always be the newest warframe to ever exist and the only one of its kind
So Loid was a person and a construct Loid was created by Albrecht so Loid will never be alone?
But why does Loid seems so disdain toward Necraloid?
If someone put your mind into another how would you feel?
Ah I see. I understand that now.
I would be pretty angry too if I woke up to find my mind in an AI
Love seeing Parvos getting more screentime and bartering with Drusus though.
It's like hearing grandpa arguing back 'n forth with wisdom.
DE making more telegraphed attack means that the dmg distribution will be fair but they will hit hard
Krestion: are both of these gonna be in the game come 1999? I know thereās in engine models of the āitās not a phase, Lotusā set, and DE said that the green jacket set is also gonna be in game, but the pants look eerily similar to each other
They showed off Drifter wearing the first and the other stated it was a concept of an existing outfit
Iām a bit confused, I know that the first one has in game screenshots, but wdym that the other stated it was a concept of an existing outfit?
I know that this is from the first one
Take a peek at this never-before-seen concept art of one of the Drifterās outfit coming in the 1999 Update!
Literally the description of the second pic
Ah, so it will show up in game as a separate outfit from the āitās not a phase, Lotusā set?
Both will show up
It might just look different is all
decided to replay the 1999 demo
for some reason im only now realizing the arthur is british
i guess i wasnt hearing his sarcastic 'cheerio' before
feedback an the atomicycle bomb:
you should be able to press the ability key again while it's moving so you can 'air burst' the detonation manually when it gets near enemies without it having to crash first
like, yeah, i could slow my motorcycle to a stop and line it up carefully to hit something directly
OR i could do a sweet flip off it and explode it while looking away 'cause cool guys dont look at explosions
you know which one you want
Not DE's fault really
They are simply emulating 90s fashion and pants have been the same for a long while lol
blue jeans are blue jeans are blue jeans
though the ripped and scuffed look is decidedly more punk
Pardon my confusion here, I wasnāt trying to give DE grief, I was curious about whether or not both sets of streetwear would end up in the game and Nemesis answered my question, saying that both sets would end up in the game post 1999 : )
Doesnāt really help that upon closer inspection, the green jacketās jeans are ripped, whereas the black hoodieās jeans are not torn : )
Yeah i get that, wasnt trying to be serious either.
But really i dont miss the fashion from the 90s and early 2000s
its time to spread the drip on the corpus goofy fashion style
god... if the DE start selling this clothes IRL im buying it..
they need to release more merch honestly. i'm sure tons of people would buy stuff like thios
I had to pester them for a year to get Albrechtās hat
now for the rest of Albrecht
Maybe, Iām not exactly in a position to be rocking trenchcoats without getting looks
I just want his coat
get a large bald cat with it as well then
I got a cool screenshot of my Albrecht Drifter
Whem we will have wisp heirloon
Very long time away
You are late
... is the heart beating a new thing?
nope
Does Requiem Languages have a translation yet? I've been trying to match the languages with any existing one to find out what is Man in The Wall is saying
Itās always beatingā¦especially after we helped it in the heart of Deimos quest.
The heartbeat in the sanctum?
If itās in the sanctum, thatās just the vessel heartbeat and thatās been heard since whispers IIRC
Yeah
Voidtongue doesnāt have an exact translation aside from a handful of words, which are the requiems
Minus Oull
Itās theorized Mara could mean Child or something similar but thatās speculation
Excuse me??
The vessels have a heartbeat
Oh i tough he meant something else than the deimos heart
I have... Bad experiences whem games has a heartbeat mode.
Kahl and Kaeli's banter is something I never thought I needed. Adds a lot to the story outside of combat.
Kahl is too good for the blue girl.
Indeed
Jade initially had a Tenno Operator but she immediately recognised that they were a scared child who didnāt actually want to fight and put them to sleep, fighting in their place.
And Stalker was originally motivated by the possibility of seeing Jade and his child again before the Orokin fell
"there is 2 wolf inside you"
The true baby and the void demon
Stalker was also just very loyal to the Orokin
XAKU PRIME SKELETON
IM WINNING
https://x.com/PabloMakes/status/1852056077132513568?t=ZiI4tdS58U8kqgdv8wjKWQ&s=19
Skeleton Prime
MY BABY
SO BEAUTIFUL HOLY HELLšššš
I see the post is having a fun journey. I support them.
I love Xaku š
That's fair.
The ghost rider?
Ye
The skeleton finnaly got a glow up... Its beautifull
Hey now, letās not forget about their amazing duviri skin!
Duviri skin???
Yeah, Xakuās deluxe skin is heavily inspired by Duviri
It comes with a skin for the Lotus as well
That honestly really compliments her storyline and her three identities
Oooh
The pottery warframe
hopefully xaku wont have the weird infested goo all over him with his first ability
them and their*
Quite literally
sowwy
Itās okay, itās a simple mistake
When I don't know the identification of something I will call it a they
I do that too
In Xakuās case they are literally a plurality
3 in 1
They/Them not just because theyāre nonbinary/genderfluid but because they are literally 3 individuals as 1
Krestion: as a he/they amab enby, am I non binary enough to feel that the way Xaku is they/them is a bit of a cop out? Like to me Xakuās they/them is more emphasized by the fact that they are 3 Warframes of various genders taped together. I still intend on respecting Xakuās they/them, just a rant I had in my head
I mean youād be right that they are they/them because they are a plurality, we donāt truly know how theyād identify gender-wise but I do assume enby or genderfluid due to their situation
Like theyāre specifically they/them both cause of plurality and because itās not known what genders/sexes their components were
Well, we know at least one of the original 3 was female and one was male
DE has shown their concept art too
Yeah, Xakuās original art did show them as female specifically
Itās plausible the third unknown component is also male, female or enby
We donāt know
Similarly to a lot of the discussion on trans allegories in the story, I think itās kind of a thing where the Warframe devs in charge of narrative things havenāt necessarily viewed themselves as the right people to intentionally make representation they donāt personally reflect.
I absolutely view like. Aspects of the second dream and some other aspects of the narrative as trans allegories but thatās more of a me thing as a trans individual, art is interpretive and can hit differently for different people
Theyāve always said theyāre happy when people find points relevant to them. Mind I think the discussion Iām thinking of comes from an interview with one person, thereās probably different people adding personal aspects to the story.
Itās also like a totally different societal landscape than 10 years ago as certain issues go, so likely degree of cageyness changes with different things weāve seen
Ye
Personally I can see some aspects of the Lotusā story being interpreted as themes of transitioning and finding your identity
I also still would love to get a psychologistās opinion on if the Lotus has multiple personality disorder (I forgot the exact name, apologies)
The game does have a focus on identity and even has a musical motif for it
For sure
Ive never really read it through those aspects personally but I definitely can see how people can. Which is the beauty of art and media, the differences in perspectives
Personally I tend towards trying be hyper wary of making sci-fi metaphors instead of directly addressing a topic of identity in writing because it can kind of counterproductive. At least I make sure not to just do the former
lotusā whole story is about figuring out who she is, nit just who her family wanted to be or who her ex wanted her to be. its pretty hard to not see the trans themes in that
He wasnāt even her ex lmao
Really every Warframe story relates back to self-determination after being molded into a form. Thatās gonna strike some chords across the expanse
:v uh someone's already started making babygirl gifs of the hex
You know. The glitter boarders the Sparkle on its Wednesday themation, etc. Cat ears.
where
LMAO
I mentioned it here for the exact reasons of it technically being a spoiler
IāM SHARING THIS WITH EVERYONE I KNOW
LMAO
This might just cement Amir for the route
LOL
Iām going to have to remember what my alt password is to get at least a second route in
I had some thoughts. Amir, Eleanor, even Quincy but that was like in... I can fix him way.
Idk if I can fix him. I don't know if he'll soften up with each relationship improvement
And trauma, cant forget traumaframe
Bro she does have mpd m, ballas deadas brainwashed her to be marguils
@prisma aurora
Warframes are people infected by an infested strain that turned them into warframes to fight the sentients
ooooh
If you havenāt play the sacrifice
At the start of the war they had conscious but because of the infestation they would go crazy so they found the Tenno literal kids to control them
The old war is literally just war crimes
The Tenno could control them due to transference, an ability innate to the Tenno though subdued by Margulis to protect them from their trauma
wait so when we transfer we are going inside of death people
No theyre very much alive
so my entire closet of frames are just alive warframes that are diseased and in agony
Yeah
Agony? No. Diseased? Eh
Though their consciousness is suppressed so idk if thats agony
didnt the jade frame literally die
I also wouldnāt label the infestation as a disease, its more than that
Yes, the original Jade died
Yes, but thats like a whole other issue
She had to use all her energy to have the baby
so i would have like a copy of that frame
so there would be alive frames and copy of said frames
Yeah, your foundry makes copies
oh ok that makes more sense
The copies are also alive
Hell, the likelihood that all your frames are copies are like very very very high
ooooh i see
They donāt have a conscious the warframes we make were made without one they are quite literally just husk of flesh
Umbra suggests otherwise
Umbra is also a very unique one off
That is true yes
The others don't demonstrate consciousness due to the transference bolt
I wonders... What is the purpose for the ... Metal part on his uniform?
Like ok the warframe version it goes to the infestation and orokins
1: I understand that
But on proto it was supposed to be tactical
2: regular Volt does not have that metal.
3: uh..... it's probably added armor. Unsure how amplified or distended their capacity for pain sense is.
Say it again.
That is PLASTIC. That's not shiny metal aluminum.
IT STILL THE SAME PIECE
Tactical croth armor
I suppose the warframes still feel pain?
I mean maybe they work like those rpg berserkers
Dont feel pain
But also feel but cant say it since their whole body is fused
Wich i wonders... How the warframes would look like without their armor
It would be something like nidus?
Yeah the shell
For Valkyr, she's uh... skinless
We could assume Valkyr is a base like... y'know. Muscle, tendons, ligaments... that.
Like we saw a glance of umbra without his shell armor
Wait base valkyr is skinless?
Yeah
I mean it is,
Valk prime isn't skinless tho
Well i still using her deluxe anyway so on my mind she is not skinless...
But they chopped a few bits of her meat wich is also not cool
God why we dont have a normal lore warframe?!
I don't like dwelling on this too much tho.
But... Umbra sunder having a literal eye... is unique
Maybe it can be the same on the other warframes??
It's a blind eye granted, probably from dmg but still
It still cool tho but i like the design and difference on protos and warframes
Soo their whole design is based on full muscles
But not at same time
But the protos has their design too soo its based on something usefull
I still dont understand the meaning of...volt armor... Its like aerodynamic pourposes?
Bc gauss also do have it
Hi ! I don't know if it's the right tchat but I find this on the Warframe website : https://www.warframe.com/fr/1999/classified-archive
Thanks Tenno ! 
Leaked gameplay of infested liches
Packet be like
bruh why can't we use the tattos on the operators
Minors
You see children are too young to get tattoos
but they can be used as weapons of war
Children can join the military at 17 in UK with consent and still can't get them your point?
17 to join the army, 21 to drink (in the US) :)
Want YOU to serve, not be served
Used to be you also had to be 21 to vote.
Technically 16 w/ parental consent :/
Lol
I'm having another drifter fashion freakout rn
Good freakout or bad freakout
Cole Cassidy Overwatch 2 but Ceno Freakout
Ft. Grineer thunder thighs
It's coming together
I recognize most of that sentence as words
Lol
his name is mcree ;-;
Nah
McCree is uh... not available for a name cause of the misconduct lawsuit... eesh. Anyway I think I might've struck a good chord with the syrinx leg plates on him. It kinda suits the Feldune shape. But the syandana...
Why have tattoos when you can have their faces be mangled and distorted by the Void instead?
True. The void lesions kinda look like the tattoo shapes. Gneissic ink looks like that one chin somatics set.
They were going to allow Drifter to have them too before they realised it wouldn't make sense
Where the cole train?
I think I got my drifter fashion at a good point but...
I still think de should've made a space cowboy look.
Doesnāt stop me from making them look warped by the void 
speaking of antivirus mod thing, if there's one antivirus mod that has a referrence of mcafee, i'm gonna snap
Imagine you use the wrong antivirus mods on the coda and the failure just shows a "Your free trial has ended, please pay ā”ā”ā” amount to continue using"
i got coffee from there are it was too hot
Is teshin really dead?
Technically yes
He doesn't exist in the Origin system anymore
He exists in Duviri. And has noticeably aged though... we never saw his full face before. But his voice direction in duviri is noticeably wiser and more wizardly. (Which lends itself to maybe an older appearance)
I need it.
Ember Arsonista skin
Grax skin??
Eh?
I need garuda proto
Knowing Warframe, there are likely gonna be players mad that the 1999 quest is gonna be mostly about us playing emotional support for someone.
proto vauban: literally he has no abilities except throwing some tactical, if not utility balls designed and engineered by him to aid him and his squad in combat
the quality of this is killing me
I just realised uppon checking some of the posters you can have with the displays
Humanized warframes arts are almost as old as the game is.
i wonder if DE looked at them and were like "we could make content out of this".
Probably
Rebbeca the current creative director used to be the community manager and interacted a lot with fan art
I wonder what the Echoes update to 1999 is gonna be called
It used to be her and megan doing the prime time streams, which have the fan art segment at the end.
Disaster of Y2K?
What about the quality of this?
lovely

Iām so obsessed with the wisp one
Man i gonna kiss arthur, idc about the Quest anymore
"mom always told me to never get close to the crazy ones... Too bad i never listened to her"
It wasnāt them, it was someone else(person who made it is written in the image)
A modern picasso to make such gorgeous ladies.
And man.
Part of me is waiting for nezha and nova proto fanart
Nezha cause he was the prime that absolutely carried me through the starchart
And... The old man(lavos)
No, alchemist
The manly man
Just waiting the moment to see baruuk proto
Or hildryn
The gym mom need to be real.
gunna start tnw...
have fun!
"multiple hours"
3-5
As long as it feels like it plays into the relationship and the actual vibe of ranking up the syndicate idc.
Ah cool, I thought it could be an AI generated image
saw kahl being approached by erra
i imagine garuda as sanguinius
Yes
guys why am i being promted to enter my password again?
Normal new war thing
peak
Almost got haunted by the fact I thought someone was phishing this man.
proto vauban throwing a ball to scaldra :
I wonder if we can use the same word balis used at the 1:40 mark on this server. https://youtu.be/C6PawruLQXI?si=fmEz5hm-UAZrmJXr
Join this channel to get access to perks:
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||this is a joke. Mostly a reminder he actually said that||
Can in the unofficial server
This server doesn't like us swearing
But they can do it in the game though and this the server for that game. 
The server for game isn't said game so rules are different
Ballas would get banned from both servers instantly
Went crying looking for a mommy figure
Game is at least 16+, server is discord so 13+
:O
Almost definitely intentional, really good catch
Wait wtf drill bit has heterochromia
It make much more sense the naming vome and fass now that the infested liches is said to have a hacking system
Going to hack vome and fass real quick
are vome and fass separate genders?
what is their purpose?
Idk but they're brother sister iirc
Gunna
The two worms on deimos are called vome(order) and fass(chaos). The drift is more hostile during fass, and calmer during vome
WHAT IS THAT
there are two worms inside of you, one is vome, the other is fass...
farm necramechs
Arlo
what is he doing in a giant infested room
Watch his nightwave story
chat hear me out real quick for a sec
None of the hex are a "hear me out"
we are literally going to date them so a "hear me out" isn't necessary
Hmn... okay I got my finalists for who I'm probably gonna romance. In third, Lettie, in second, Quincy, and in first Amir. I just feel like I'd miss out on everyone tho
I forgot romance is gonna be in 1999, kinda hope itās not forced upon
to my knowledge it isn't
Good, cause not everyone wants to romance people. Some just wanna kill(like me, I wanna kill)
Tbh it shouldn't be in the quest
Should be a side thing that gives useful but not broken items
But I think... in addition to the standard uh... Syndicate and standing for them, there'll probably be 6 separate/mini syndicates for each Hex Member for their relationship meter.
It feels like that.
Sorta like the main 6 syndicates(arbiters, meridian those syndicates)
Each might give useful items to help in the slaughter
Mhmn but the mini synds are definitely gonna be tied to the Pom... 3? The console with our demo for right now.
While the standard syndicate and possibly a covert/alternate syndicate is gonna be with the standard syndicates.
Iād imagine later on we use that terminal to access the protoframe realm type thing
Oh probably. I think it'll have it's own sub-nav like Duviri
Or well... like Railjack.
what
Terminal
Tho the fact itās there during tnw is awesome
Can you access the terminal while in tnw?
how do i do stolen plates?? š
Stolen plates?
some mission on venus for the new war
i keep getting trapped
Stealth
its fortuna
i stand still and i move an INCCHHH and they catch me
they are EVERYWHERE
Getting from fortuna to the elevator?
i hate this gammee š
Honestly, skill issue
Quest: requires skill and attention
Average warframe players: 
Take it slow, keep note of all deacons locations and movement, stelth
They can only see you. Move around them when they're not looking
i am but they see me from a mile away which is annoying when the guy behind me looks when the one infront doesnt
Can confirm
You're probably going the wrong way or not using smoke screen
its 20 second cooldown...
There's a correct path through fortuna
im not taking the shortest path idiot
No need for insults mate
āIdiotā Iād recommend refraining from being rude, no need for it
I've gotten warnings for less
he said L to me
And Iāve said skill issue
yall are legit not even helping š
Weāre trying(well scrap is, Iām not much
)
yall are rude to me
saying L and skill issue
Weāre just telling you to get better, as in trying to help
Been giving advice too
The path to the elevator is a zigzag that goes through two loading zones
Afterwards is more patience in the next segment but it's not as difficult imo
Iāve taken 1 path and got me there, donāt think I went through 2 load zones tho
I always say that in response to people saying "i hate this game"
Vent
Ah, the vent is both load zones?
Ah, makes sense
Try going through the vent
Do we have any info on Nyx rework yet?
I saw Trinity, can't find anything on nyx though.
they really don't want me to finish the demo this time round.
was wondering where all the shield bros went.

jam your way in š¤·āāļø
yeah. it's too bad their shields don't really help them vs his over modded sword.
shut up bro, and im being rude??
I mean you called scrap an idiot, which is rude. Us saying skill issue and L is not rude as you need to use skill in tnw for that area
its like saying idiot to someone stupid isnt rude
its still rude bruh
it aināt rude as youāre having a literal skill issue. You use skill to get through that area, and you keep taking the same path, therefore skilless
try looking at their path and seeing if there are any other ways that you can go
This is now more than a meme
silly billy starts playing
what the hell is silly billy š
another game reference
oh fnf evil twin thingy
tnw actually kinda goated
I see you got passed it and the factory
oh god i gotta choose between drifter and operator š
no idea what difference there is
Only some dialogue differences
Dialogue
Size difference too
I chose Operator, for reasons. Nothing is wrong with either choice, though! Up to you. š
Itās really do you want a teen that talks all the time or do you want an adult that keeps his/her mouth shut
I've done both before
I replay every quest possible bar 2
You still in tnw?
Last archon I smell
I was remembering talking to someone who somehow went months without figuring out that they could freely change between operator/drifter. Just never figured to click on the icon
I forgor my drifter lookedugly cuz I had no customization options when I did Duviri

Your drifter in duviri is the one you customize in your orbiter
Yeaaa i finished the quest and thank god I can do that
Yeah
I still remember when I got the Drifter reveal... My face options for Operator look nothing like that for the Drifter, plus my guy was bald cuz of a glitch back at launch for TNW. I had no clue who he was. 

Yeah the drifter faces are super different than operator it was confusing LOL
Reminds me of a mrwarframe guy short I watched
This is. Another screenshot
Iāll have to find the short again
I gave my operator red hair before too
I had to die at least 10 times to finish the quest
Both of them
Huh, I also had a War Within bug, come to think of it... The game crashed on me, and then I was outside the cave after a power unlock, but I didn't see that I got one, so I beat TNW without Void Dash (the pre-Void Sling) because I had no idea I had it lol
The war within wasnt bugged for me surprisingly enough I just kept dying cuz im stupid
Iām not sure if the short is fine to be sent, wasnāt hard to find
Also, learning switch controls was.. fun.. it took me until pluto to realise where the heavy attack button was
Probably best I donāt send it
Not sure why but I get the feeling you might like red a bit
Omg how'd you know
Just a feeling
THEY ATE LOTUS??
Man in the Wall
that's the man in the wall
the thing rell was warning u about and the thing albrecht saw
i hope he picks lotus
to me, Drifter was the only valid option 
as a 30-something I couldn't relate to a brat, especially one who pretty much almost doomed the entire Origin system with their adoptive mommy issues
Operator needs a redemption arc that includes them void-punching their "HeY KiDDo" doppelganger
before they can exit <PERMANENTLY BANISHED TO THE VOID> status in my headcanon
and even then, I'd still prefer using Drifter simply because they can wear syandana / attachments / pistol "amp" / etc. among other reasons 
in fact my single largest -- & probably only -- criticism of the Jade Shadows quest itself:
not only was Operator's showing up forced on us, but Drifter also didn't show up once
I wanted Drifter to maybe give Stalker a hug & say "sorry for your loss, they tried, I would've tried more" or something along those lines
in my headcanon, the first thing Drifter did after rebuilding Jade: they got a beacon / mark(s) / etc. just to do that 
Chat y'all wanna help me discern some fashionframes?
They're really high quality captura looks of the drifter an operator but I wanna try them out because I regret the Cole Cassidy look.
Really good stuff btw. Not mine obvs. Pinned by someone named Taylor on Pinterest.
Tbh I got too much into matching outfits for both Operator and drifter...
For me, as a "not a young person" I definitely see where you are coming from - having far more in common with Drifter than the 14 year-old I'd spent countless hours forming a connection with. Funny enough, I was initially hesitant to use Drifter at all - Duviri Paradox having left an overall negative impression in the pit of my stomach - but knowing they will be the focus of 1999, I used Lotus Eaters as a way to finally graduate from Operator to Drifter full time.
And I'm glad to do it, all things considered. Operator might still be the target of Wally's greedy eye - but their story is mostly complete. They don't really have more room to grow (especially as it seems they are doomed to be 14 forever) in the context of a live service game.
As a side note to something I said above, my dislike for Duviri Paradox is not a criticism. The story is solid and it adds a lot of good, fun activities to the game - which I spend plenty of time engaging with. My issue with Duviri Paradox is purely irrational. I'm autistic and there's something with the music and art direction of the overall experience that just turns me off completely - something I can't really explain, or adapt to.
Duviri having left an overall negative impression in the pit of my stomach
Duviri had a similar effect on me as well but mostly (if not entirely) for story reasons; I thought The Duviri Paradox would be one of Drifter's major arcs, like what The War Within and The Sacrifice were to Operator; some would argue it technically was, but such notions rang hollow in the pacing / context / etc. of the quest itself when considering that it was also basically a tutorial for Duviri game modes & was thus more or less shackled to being just that, especially having played through it AFTER The New War. In my opinion, The Duviri Paradox we ended up getting (versus what it could've been) truly was meant to be played closer to the start of the game.
I feel like one way they could maybe rectify that if they wanted to revisit Duviri in the future for whatever reasons could be to include a new spiral (separate from the existing ones) that involves -- rather than trying to defeat the Orowyrm -- having to stop Wally from destroying another island in Duviri (!!!) and then it'd feel like there are actual major stakes involved to it... or maybe that could even be part of a future story quest, it doesn't even have to be tied to existing Duviri cycles, perhaps at the same time Operator & others are fighting The Murmur / Wally / etc. elsewhere, Drifter is also trying to fight that faction in Duviri (possibly w/ help from other Drifters because Eternalism shenanigans)
Operator might still be the target of Wally's greedy eye - but their story is mostly complete
I partly agree on the latter, but also partly disagree, partly because of the former; we know Drifter is going to be in 1999 but unless some TNW Ballas-like thing happens to Drifter, it's not like they're going to be stuck there or anything such; in any event: while Drifter is away in 1999, it could be a time for more Operator-focused stories, including those leading to a final Wally confrontation & what their role in that would be
Drifter isn't stuck in 1999
there's something with the music and art direction of the overall experience that just turns me off completely
While I do appreciate all of the effort put into Duviri, I also at least partly agree that the overall tone / scenery / feel / etc. should've been more closely matched to the original reveal trailer, even if only for one of the spirals or whatever (for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DObN_3ha6M)
Tenno, itās time to grow up.
Revealed during TennoLive 2019, the next Warframe open world -- The Duviri Paradox -- is now in development.
not that we know of, not yet anyway
they might never be stuck there, who knows
and even if they did become "stuck" there, it's not like they couldn't chair-switch with Operator for Origin System stuff, at least gameplay-wise anyway
I definitely see what you mean - and I agree - my point about growth was specifically on a character level. Operator has already unlocked their full potential and defeated the bad guy who upset their status quo - and while there's still mystery and intrigue, the live service model is going to shackle the operator's arc to something established as the status quo.
The Drifter though - they are dealing with the Albrecht stuff directly and are largely an open book for character exploration.
Operators story isn't finished either because if the live service nature as if you apply that same logic you could say Drifters is finished too
Both have had their respective stories told
I'm not talking about the plot of the story - I'm referring to the characters' journey.
Operator forming a relationship to a surrogate mother, learns about their past, unlocks their intrinsic power - then mother is taken away. They go on a quest to reunite with their mother - and succeed.
That's the journey operator started on, all the way back to the beginning.
The operator's story is finished - but the plot carries on and Drifter is now being told to go and take care of it. Lotus Eaters is a passing of the torch transition.
But the live service model can't outright remove Operator - so future content will still be open to them. A new story for that character may eventually open up - but it's doubtful that DE will commit to anything that will change the Operator, beyond plot progression.
DE have to have Operator and Drifter quests still we are still the main character
Now we just get a slight choice on who for most content
I never said they won't be involved in the plot.
Plot and character arc are two separate parts of a story.
Imagine DE allowed Drifter in the older quests
It did feel that the Operator was supposed to be the default choice so far regarding the new war arc.
Ooh redid my operator and stuff
I should... get a captura done of them both
I found the old playthrough videos again & my Drifter at TNW's start wasn't bald like Jack from Mass Effect 2 after all, I misremembered
they somehow looked like a goth version of Ellen Degeneres instead 
Why does ur drifter look like one of those pics with the cats crying

Fr
I see it

anyway this is how they look now
they've come a long way from sadcat
Varzia & Teshin would be proud
Sadcat to HotKitty
carry on
idk

