#spoiler-chat
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I know I already posted this but can we just point out that Packet (The Xaku lich) is the shortest one? š Best boi
Zeke (Loki Lich) is the absolute worst, he has long blonde hair and anime has taught me we don't trust him
Average RPG player
bro are u kidding me
Zeke is Griffith
i killed an enemy and arthur said "cheerio"
Chad
Some of the rooves have texture clipping issues too
detroit style pizzas innit
That's it, Arthur is banished from the romance system
Protoframe revoked
Iām surprised he doesnāt call the scaldra a prick everytime he kills them tbh
Did you see the trailer tho? He has a fire kiss cutscene
ur not supposed to go in the roofs im pretty sure š
Every Excalibur main has to say cheerio now to avoid the RPG gods from cursing you
am i the only one who hears barking
Nah, it's happenin
I just bulletjumped up to them tho?
bulletproof tv
Nah, you're supposed to go on the roofs. There were enemies on the roofs in the Tennocon showcase.
They really did make things better in the 90's
Someone make a "like a prayer" edit for 1999 update
Why are we praising the orokinās advanced tech when their ancient tech is so strong
š What are you talking about??? This better not be a datamine thing.
most roofs inside of the tiles are climable, just not the ouside ones
tbh its a bit weird getting stuck on the corner of the walls that i should just be able to pass by with no problem
Oh and something a friend mentioned:
It's in the release trailer bruh. I'm a law student, Idk nothing about datamining lol
Day in 31m
corners legit just grab u
I'm cybersecurity guy
I know both about laws and hackers
Ima be so real, I did not see they posted a trailer. I just ran to the demo cuz of the discord ping
Prolly a placeholder since 1999 is going to have seasonal cycles. Would be strange if they added a day-night cycle on top of that.
š
Omg a CS major! :D Hi CS major
Technically I do have an IT certification too but I'm incredibly rusty.
Day/Night atomicycle when
He's in the walls damn it!!!
Don't u know foreshadowing?!
so you know how valve have a catwalk conspiracy? i think de starting to have it too
The hell is computer science anyway? Everyone knows computers are alchemical magic boxes with, like, runic circles inside.
Ain't no science in there.
along with digital forensics
math
Infinite corrisive status generator
u can break it multiple times
oh wait... only twice
we are stuck in a time loop where it's always 11:54
Runic circles? magic boxes? Everyone knows itās little people inside smh the education systems these days
Yeah, it's little people. Arranged in runic circles
They run on tiny hamster wheels aligned along Ley Lines to generate the magical energy.
@static nimbus Ok Ima be so honest rn, after the monologue of him saying he promises Aoi a life without this BS, how can you romance him????
Excalibur x Mag is REAL GUYS
yall want to go watch some movies?
I mean, I think they're just good friends.
did they code this or i just got really lucky and got wally visit right after completing the demo
lucky
"Just you, me, and the bikes" sounds like romance to me
Bro has never had a ride and die
Could just be platonic
Excalibur x Mag is real
HOLY F***
i think the romance is targetted towards the bikes 
Me trying not to play the demo all night: Arm twitches Not again!
I'm romancing Nyx either way, so idc, but definitely platonic
DE wouldn't make us homewreckers
You right, forget these humans, Bike-chan my beloved
....
We need to get a transformer frame who can turn into a bike.
Iām a little disappointed you canāt use the secondary whilst on the bike
optimus prime
Nah, I want him to turn into a K-drive, an Archwing AND an atomicycle
Arthur's bike is a he tho
Aoi calls it Tommy
Itās a bit jarring riding then hopping off to kill every now and then
Tommy the Atomicycle
Me when Iām a baby in a crib
theres a big invisible wall
Its just a short slang term for Atomi
i'm about to misgender a bike
Did someone summon me?
Are youā¦stepping into the night, where all the stars are bright?
Watch Arthur say "she's a beaut" and suddenly he misgenders the bike
Aah hope the other one isn't called Vercetti
Italian atomicycle personalities
could be that the bike prefers any pronouns
Tommy is short for Atomi-, tbf.
btw can anyone translate the poster title?
āNeed my Tommy keys, Amir.ā
@obtuse gyro
Yeah, now you're gonna say another bike is called Vercetti!
Chad
uuhhh how to access 1999 demo?
Enter the game and look to your right.
oh ._.
lmao
why do u need 2?
DE: Conclave goes into the no use storage room. Bring in the new romance content!
Canāt wait for the entire OST for 1999, especially the Techrot part.
Or the tank boss
The Call?
Already released on spotify and youtube
Teshin: We forgot the Conclave. Again.
they wanna make americans feels right at home š
He's not here to say it second time
Not just that, the other OSTs we heard during Tennolive.
Please for all of us, keep this face until 1999 so we can see Arthur kiss this
He helped drifter so that drifter can go into 1999 and commit romance
I love going where im not supposed to
I wish this was mine lol, I found it on Reddit
Teshin indirectly, replaced conclave with 1999
Ask how they made the face
DE offers a hell lot of things to be customizable
Let me romance On-Lyne DE, I want the boyband experience
Join us, embrace us.
I can even oil up styanax deluxe and put ember heirloom sigil on up, down, left, or right, or upside down even
Given they're dead, that's an ask
:)
DON'T EVER ERASE US
It says in their song they come alive under the neon glow
If I play music, they'll come back to life
āIf management gives us one more passive-aggressive smile, Iām gonna snap!ā
ONly if it's Nickelback
Nah, maybe if I play "I Want it that way" they'll understand my want for romance
I'm fine with tentacles
They already teased that there was going to be a 'disgusting in a good way' kiss shipping with 1999
:)
Nine Inch Nails will probably push them into depression.
I s2g DE you have the chance to have a video of On-Lyne doing a choreography in their human forms and we can turn it into a TikTok dance trend, THIS IS the perfect opportunity
They need to make music videos like LoL
omg.. wha is that?
What is that, Private Pyle!?
Nah, what would put people into a depression is hearing Ashlee Simpson's ONE hit wonder song
WHO STOLE MY KINEPAGE
nooo theres no cash :(
Loki took it
EXACTLY
In all seriousness, looks like a calculator that prints results instead of a digital display
Eleanor
Obviously
almost definitely
Sweet Home Alabama with this one then.
Huh?
Weāre not playing as Arthur
Weāre playing as Drifter
Ah thatās what you mean.
Sweet Home Hƶllvania
*Mall
Remind me, did they mention if there's a no-romance option? I feel like they did
Yeah, there should be, if you don't pick the romance paths with anyone
okay cool
Then you make out with Helminth instead on New Year's Eve
lmao
But, tbh, why would you choose the no-romance path
using the pistol feels like im playing resident evil and i like it
Kinda cringe bro ngl
just walking and shooting
Guys, the kiss is not going to be Eleanor, the kiss is Us x Whomever we choose. How the heck would Eleanor and Arthur be involved???
I want that pistol so bad
We were talking about who the disgusting kisser is going to be. Definitely Eleanor
People say there is, I hope so, I don't like any of these people and I can't romance Pocket so I don't wanna
Watch your words, sheās probably reading your mind right nowā¦
'cause I don't really care all that much? XD
I'm pretty sure she likes it disgusting
I know, Its not gonna be Eleanor, cuz its whomever our drifter romances
So its Us X Someone
It's so short
I wanted old rele back ..
Brother, we know that. Rebecca and Megan said in an interview that one of the kissing scenes was going to be 'disgusting, but in a good way'.
So that's probably the Eleanor path.
So we're romancing On-Lyne? ty De /J
How would kissing Eleanor be disgusting????
a calculator if i'm not mistaken
There's probably going to be some Infestation stuff involved since she's the most heavily infested among them all
Tell me how kissing this beautiful woman would be gross
I'm thinking Arlo tongue action.
Oh god Iām already imagining it.
They're inspired by BG3 bruh, you can kiss the Mindflayers there
Don't underestimate Rebecca
Guys, they're all proto-skins, I doubt its Eleanor
No one gonna talk about Lettie?
theres some tvs showing really weird stuff and sounds
Idk, she's the only protoframe I don't find very attractive tbh
Rat girl supreme
That hair really puts me off.
See that one I can see happening, she has rats! What if she kisses us through the rats by sending them to us???
I like the rats tho
So you hate Rockabilly hair?
Someone drag bro out of the kitchen
He's stirring Nurgle's cauldron
eventually we got bubonic plage, if not leptospirosis
Lettie literally has Rockabilly hair
But nah, Eleanor definitely has a prehensile tongue
The wet floor sign is vibrating
11 looks the closest I think.
like the naberus decorations
Nothing to see here
It's wet with supercritical liquid
this looks like something of 90s hair style
i thouched it and it stopped
it is, Im pointing out her aesthetic tho
The hair isn't weird, its a hairstyle
+1
It's a weird hairstyle, yes.
Lettie's hair is the only thing I like about her tho, I appreciate a woman who has a certain aesthetic
I can see Reb cosplaying Lettie ngl
No its not, women literally wore this in like the 50's
crimson dervish range is so big damn
And?
"People used to do this in the past" isn't an argument for something not being weird.
You calling it weird is rude
hello welcome to wendy's
It's weird to me. I don't like it. You can like it.
Take a screenshot of the soda machine
You're so rude
can I get an uhhhhhhhhhhh
what colour bubbles u want?
Can I get a Krabby Patty-
sir this is a wendy's
Light green, I need that corrosive soda
baja blast?
how are they supposed to get it? thats bullet proof
You're supposed to break it with a hammer
im stuck... VENT STUCK
āIn case of an emergency, do not have an emergencyā
You need a fire extinguisher to use the fire extinguisher
here's your order
what if, instead of the badass big bikes, they gave us these 
Smells moldy, Thank you!
Tbf, all the extinguishers in the world can't put out the fire Major Rusalka's design has lit within me
Those are Vespa's and they should give them to us if we have british WF
I WISH
OHHHH the vending machines drop energy and hp
i accidentally shot one and it dropped like, 3 of energy + health orbs
That's certainly an aggressive way to vend
also, these tank trucks have Effervon corrosive
How bout we storm in 1999 with an H-04 Effervon Tank
Also is that snow?
yea, this is newyear
Sludge
I GOT ONE TAPPED BY THE BAJA BLAST
Skill issue
shouldn't have ordered the green one from wendy's
this thing legit just insta killed me xd
Shouldāve jumped over it
BLOCK
You got trigger-happy or something?
i was testing the sword range
or, this
That green stuff looks like a tiny green energy baby
the melee range is actually insane
Arthurās definitely gonna ride the devil down with this one.
Guys when we exit the demo, are we going back to the future? (pun absolutely intended)
Or get rode down by the others
yea, Reach mod
Imagine if it was called a demo because we got to play as a demolyst
w8 do they generously put Hunter Munition in AX52? Cus its base damage is only Puncture
ooh nice. It's universal orb, not just H or E
Game pls u caNT make open doors and not let me in
I CAN BATMAN AROUND THE ROOFTOPS!!
at the start i thought it was fireworks but actually i think its a big explosion and the infestation spreading
How do we get into the demo?
the toilet where the Conclaive console used to be
console on your ship
Old Conclave console
Is there a way to earn the other two protokol skins?, and to access the demo it's a old desktop by the news console
:)
pretty sure its only the sword rn
Alrighty, just curious because someone in region linked the other two so got me curious about it
This lag is crazy
finally done with it i messed around for so long
Albreshoot
How long will we be able to play the demo?
at least up until 1999ās release iirc
That...demo was kinda boring ngl
fun fact u can go above the extraction point to prevent activating it
sadly you cant access the street behind it cuz it blocked by invisible walls
That won't stop some people
this is how far i can see into the street behind extraction
nah its impossible unless they manage to walk through walls
This demo had awful performance for me
i think the streeth ends anyways
it was a bit chunky
It's ok but I was hoping for another Cambion Drift
A mix of open world and tile sets
This is just Zariman, again
:)
ugh
I mean, it's just one mission in isolation. Who's to say it won't be like that in the full release
One can hope
What a bad demo
Why what was wrong with it
What is on his back
for the last few days, I've been wondering why the Conclave Console was moved back near the Arsenal, this explains it
Join us, Embrace us, Don't ever erase us!
Found a hole in the wall, was able to get back over here (:
ooh
So you are... in the wall, making tapping noises, huh? Shame. 
If you knew how to get out of the Hollvania relay back when it was available, you might be able to find a way to jump into a pipe this time š
VESPER 77 has a hipfire Shotgun mode
where hole
Check up there
Warframes?
Look around, take photos
There seems to be a new area behind a fence near the stage (:
Show??
where
I gotta get back, fell through the floor lol
L
One of the things I noticed was this mural
can u circle?
jump here
now what
it takes a while, but if you keep spam jumping eventually you will break through
Sooooooo is this actually how its gonna drive... never knew bikes could move like that... š¤
Loved the demo mission.
Any idea or hints on when the 1999 will come out?
Here ya go
So what's new behind the stage
gonna go look now
Anytime between winter 2024-winter-2024
Weird seeing you here
This area was blank before I am pretty sure
So happy the movement mechanics feeling smooth like in main Warframe gameplay. No clunky feeling mechanics like in Khal and Duviri missions.
The bike though feels weird

It is fun but just, weird
thx
Early December
š¤
Yep agreed on this one ! I hate the fact there is no a drive back option š
it wasnt
Every other vehicle felt okay at least but I think they kinda do need better controls for the bike
A backwards drive please š
The bike controls are hard at the start but you get used to them
Still shouldāve been the normal controls
are you sure?
go forward
yeah it loops behind the plants, but maybe I missed it when it was live before lol
I don't even wanna know what happened here lol
i'm still surprised at those murals/flag/etc...
Idk it just feels very very different from what we would expect from 1999, maybe i'm thinking too much but this could have something ?
eleanor and me
we played roblox
dress to impress
One day, Aoi... no more roblox
This is how it happened this is how Roblox died
With thunderous applause
Eleanor lays there when she's tired cuz her powers affect her the most
Oh I know, it just has glitched shadows or something lol makes it look super stained
SPECIAL NOTES
Technocyte presence more pronounced than others
Eleanor: "I don't think Doctor Entrati expected me to survive. I had a lot more than just a cough. But... survive I did. And Lettie has not forgiven me for it."
Orokin text in 1999
Is that orokin or 1999 orokin?
parvos going back in time and do graffiti
Agreed. When extraction showed up, I used that as an opportunity to get used to the controls a little more. Drove back and forth for a good 10 minutes lmao.
It's orokin-orokin
How do you access all that? When the demo ended it kicked me out
Theres a vid if you scroll up that shows how
If you happen to pass behind the garage wall
Raw void energy allowing you to phase through space & time and ride an entire building outside the building itself
so here's a question. If we are "playing as the drifter" for 1999, does that mean we're taking the drifter into the missions? That doesn't seem like where we're going, but...
We control the vessels that are hooked up to the Protos
But Drifter will be in 1999 in person for dating
hmm
give drifter weapons 2024
Weāll have all of our equipment with us. Loid assured us we wonāt be going back this time unarmed.
didnt they say late december?
where the hell is this
Idrk
It's in the Mall area
from back in tennocon? because i didnt see any mall in the demo
Nope from today, you can get back there by going through a hole in the wall
oh dang
Knew these looked familiar. Theyāre what Arthur used to do the worm game and failed during tennocon lmao.
There were quite a few spread out across the demo.
Arthur is a failed gamer
We get another look at infested liches (from the trailer)
Love Packetās eye
same
I'm sorry is Aoi wearing a Bodysuit?
it's confirming more and more than on lyne could surely be the first time the techrot is trying themselves to humans
Dj-RoM be moonwalking
i still think it's actually them but we'll have to see
I'm looking at her render up close and the mag flesh is like the transformed part right? So that quilted thing she's wearing... isn't the mag skin.
Cause she's on the Launcher webpage and all.
Isnāt that a different order from the photo we saw announcing devstream 182?
i do think it's them but with the infested that infest on a more... Gruesome way ? Also the infestation really feels like reference from different franchise like Resident evil (through packet's having a big eyeball)
yes
My day is almost ruined they must be purged
wdym almost ruined
Onlyne really is just a...horrible thing to envision. Being trapped as part of the infestation for literally longer than anyone can remember??
Demo exists otherwise it would be
i mean i suppose they would be sleeping in those pods we saw in tennocon all this time
Oh true. But the infestation never truly sleeps
fair
True, if we can convert them for us , it means that they were somehow still here... Gruesome torture from the hivemind, not killing them entirely
yes that too. if they are jsut random infested mess then i don't think they would join us
i think DE did confirm that those are the infested liches
The Entrati also "sleep" in the sense that they snore and stuff, but their dreams are infested with betraying desires and sweet nothings. To put it lightly the hive even speaks to them in their sleep.
imagine, thousands or even millenia being a monstrous monster that is fighting,eating,etc... But not by your own commands
Some of Gomaitru's rank 5 dialog talks about how she thinks Loid and Otak were planning to betray her, once upon a time, for them being stuck together in the Necraloid host.
Us casually walking past the Entrati while they are sleeping trying not to wake them up
That reminds me is there a failstate for accidentally waking them?
It'd be funny if there was.
Wait is this the stadium that somehow is in space in the āpresentā origin system lmao
i think so
You canāt wake them
im guessing we're gonna have some sort of showdown in hollvania and in our current time
Iām shooting the stadium out of the sky
Maybe the infested flew away
please DE i hope 1999 come with rusalka boss fight and On lyne pre boss fight š (or smthg infested related)
Yup
Iām theorizing the arctic hivemind could be there and we gotta nuke it 
But it depends on what radiation war weāre on in 1999
also one thing i find intersting is that we know on-lyne are liches and with the coda injector i assume we spawn only one, but we keep seeing the 5 of them together so im curious whats that about
Could be just to show every one of them
Maybe all 5 show up but its 1 on 1
Weāll find out next week I guess
Artic hivemind must be around the north pole tbf
is the vesper 77 an protkol skin we have already or no
speaking of Rusalka i noticed that a mission node on sedna is also named rusalka
Only a reference i fear
Unless she is there as a grineer idk
no. the Protokol skins are the weapons from Dark Sector
maybe its a reference to her possibly being proto saryn
She is Kela who drops Saryn
I really doubt sheās a protoframe
Maybe, if the doktor confirm that Scaldra have also techrot but i really doubt they have that
interesting, the baloons can be eximus
and their aiming lines change color when they are
hii spoilers, what are our thoughts on tha atomicycle? imo i wish the turning was actually a bit less sharp and there was some potential to drift with it
Would be wild if it means that each shot that hit would literally heal everyone lmao
agreed
i dont like how every button makes it accelerate
you ca drift with Ctrl held
you can? damn
tf
there's not much space to drift tho
well mine i think was the electric eximus, but i didnt see it do the eximus ability
but idk i wish the whole thing was a little less precise as weird as that sounds š it just didn't really click with me i guess
I think it would be good to have atomicycle if maps were longer and instead of constantly spawning they would spawn on specific area where you need to take care of their base put in hollvania
I got the jade eximus a few times and I was like āWAIT WHATā lmao
the jade eximus being there despite that there's no jade and no parvos
yeah that also threw me off lmao
Albrecht brought some jade materials back with him I guess??š¤£
everyone gets same jade light! hooray!
getting intense "tom clancy's the division" flashbacks here
also why is the flying enemy's balloon not its weakpoint? far as i can tell it doesn't have any weakpoints
ALSO why are there jade light eximus units here those were invented by the corpus
Gameplay vs lore
I think the balloon one is like anatomizer
Or it's the gun
i don't think so ?
Unless i'm shooting wrong anatomizer doesn't have any weakpoint
the triangle with three arms? yea the weakpoijts are the arms
That's like the same as asking why is there jade light grineer. This is an alternate reality of current Warframe or the past and the jade light has been around a long time
hmmmmm alright
That can be explained by saying that the corpus sold the tech to grineer for profit
and infested would be that they killed corpus units using jade light and incorporated it onto themselves
The corpus don't sell to the grineer they are enemies. They don't work together unless they had to like in the new war
The corpus are known to sell things to grineer despite them being enemies
For corpus itās literally profit over everything
Drifter looks sad
Probably having a very touching moment between each other before they start getting passionate.
Drifter: So I saved everyone and was left stranded
Arthur: Thatās cool anyway relationship time
arthur: so i failed to save anyone
Drifter and Arthur both heavily deserve some romance timeā¦.
Drifter and Eleanor for me.
Hell all of the HEX deserve it
For me, Iām going for Amir.
Lil adhd soft boy
Eleanor or Lettie
Just my typeā¤ļøā¤ļø
Iāll give Amir all the ābrain hugsā with transference lol
Iām going for Eleanor I think, itās not fair sheās outcasted by everyone despite them knowing what sheās going through
The drifter looks so snatched. Who's her makeup artist?
I kinda wanna go for Eleanor as like... besties. But uh... I'm gunning for Amir.
Imagine you have to date to rank up
Arthur,amir,quincy š
So I'm going for his sister
Agreed
I should... probably finalize my Drifter's look. I think that Orokin blue would look weird lmao.
Elenor best
i think im going amir or lottie tbh
Do we know what pistol the Vesper 77(the pistol Arthur uses in the 1999 demo) is based off of?
I mean could be completely platonic
My drifter looks better with it
it looks like a makarov with the integrated suppressor
I have an orokin drifter and base drifter because I still think itās the best outfit
DE donāt like male Drifters
I made mine acceptable
So easier to make blue
no beard tho
the bfg of a handgun from RE8
RE8 gun's size are either realistic or disproportionate
I hope they make it so itās actually silenced gameplay wise
my drifter has unfortunately drifted to a somewhat edgy color pallette (blacks/greys/redorange) because i really like the orangish reds in the storm palette š
Doesnāt make sense that it has a silencer but is alarming
Platonic kiss š
If you have the kuva rad ephemera heāll feel more orokin
To be fair, with with how big the bullet, and how it work... It would be surprising like a ignis with shush
Sith Acolyte already wants my Drifter dead
That will make him actually make it happen
Iāve tried making the skin normal even listened to changes and copied skin that people say and it never ends how they did it
Fiddling with the hair values reminds me endlessly how much I hate not having premade color choices optimized for the game...
Like nothing is this nice, rich brown.
Yeah I recently switched from the ps4 version to ps5 and the lighting isnāt the same anymore
His head comes out a lot darker now it used to be barely noticeable
It's either Salt and Pepper black, or MOIRA Orange.
Not my fault DE have broken face colour you canāt reverse back to normal
I need... I can't. I need a different area to customize. With better lighting than my dusty orbiter.
Dormizone?
Oh my god.
This is normal skin
They look depressed
Is this any good
They need a hug
They look hopped up.
They're very common
Thatās without facial hair
But they are useful
Ok so this is better
DE need to get better face colour fixing
They need more hair options too
But somehow the uncommon reward on netracells doesnāt make sense
A majority of people use the same like 5 hair styles
Hopefully DE adds at least more choices for 1999? They did mention Tennogen.
As a woman I hard disagree
Thereās some good ones sure but a majority arenāt very good
And ultimately hair is gender neutral
My favorite hair style is
Its really just thereās no hairs in the style you like
Which is valid
Cause I too struggle
Once you change your skin in Warframe you canāt revert it either
It ends how I showed
Why did the screen zoom in on my drifter's chest. Like. Hello sir, yes I put him in that you do not need to zoom in.
Funny camera
What even is the normal skin colour in this game
Whatever one you pick
Like the one from Mara pic
Fixed in the menu... uh... I'd really love more drifter hair that frames the face. Like this one cut, Cut 12 or 13? That's pretty.
I swear once you change skin you canāt get it again
You know, considering how the ostrons look the male drifter is handsome
I finished Jade shadows last nightā¦. Now im so sad
wait this looks awesome omg :0
This is the most normal I can find and it isnāt normal
i came back for Jade simply because her kit seemed amazing/cool and then got barrelled thru the heart
Ty ty
Someone should 100% make that Lifeweaver meme face for their drifter.
my drifter is,,, yes (the one in red is mine, blue/silver is my friend)
operator spotted
Drifter actually
Sheās fun to use, Chroma shouldāve had a similar 4 to hers
Oh!
Iām trying to sort the face colour and
My bad they look baby /pos
Itās bad
even if they don't make a Kuva Argonak for 1999 -- I can still dream that someday there would be one in a future update, lol -- I feel like there could at least be a Scaldra-themed version of a skin for it similar to this concept art (it goes hard, ngl) from 2017:
They need more drifter drip, why have they stopped converting the operator drip for drifter
I dont know about Chroma! Ill check them out
PLEASE the drifters deserve more drip,,, hoping for fun 1999 inspired outfits
Heās more of a weapons platform
Compared to Jade heās boring (coming from a chroma lover)
im down for Support Frames. Trinity Prime had my heart for a while
Ew lol
It's funny (and a bit sad) how I switched from Titania to Jade simply because I got fed up with the various clunkiness aspects from the former's 1 & 2
I could helminth off one but still have to deal with the other
I can make my operator close to Gojo but heās too small I just want to be able to recreate gojo drifter
Arcane Arachne is making me wish they would either remove ledge-grabbing or add it to the activation conditions for that
"On Wall Latch or Ledge Grab" simple enough fix methinks, but then spaghetti code is spaghetti code
so question did anyone find any somachords in the 1999 demo?
Did they add any new ones?
Butt dial my bad
that's what i'm trying to find out lol
Seeing how they just added it, and seeing how it's a demo, I don't think those will be in until 1999 itself and / or some update soon after it
I could be wrong about that and in the best case scenario of such an event we may just need to search more in the demo 
If they don't show in the menu then probably not
DE would say if any somachords were added in the patch notes
alright, thx i was just thinking there were alot of side areas with nothing that could be perfect spawn points for stuff like that
Iām expecting party of your lifetime as a somachord when 1999 releases I want that in my orbiter
So I was rewatching the tennocon reveal and...I think Major Rusalka might actually be a protoframe. I know there's been speculation about her being Saryn but two things caught my eye that forward that idea.
Point A: around her eye you can see some of the same scarring the protoframes have
Point B: she has some kind of cigarillo/cigarette holder thing that seems to deliver Effervon. Most likely she's taking it for (what I assume is) the same reason the Scaldra are using it to purge the city: because it kills techrot. She could be using it to slow the influence on her own body.
Iām still not convinced sheās a protoframe
Yeah this is the first thing I've seen that might point in that direction. My guess is that, if she is a protoframe, that will be a surprise in the quest.
I think she's a failed protoframe.
The one thing Iām 100% sure on is that the scaldra are the basis for the grineer during the orokin empire
She is taking orders from Doctor Entrati... but for what exactly?
Besides obviously exterminating the techrot. What does Entrati have to gain from destroying that?
I wouldnāt be surprised if the scaldra were made using the grineer as base models
It's possible but the Scaldra all seem to be humans. Generally. They're in hazmats and other bioprotective clothing like those uh... diving bell helmets.
They are probably stand in for Grineer but not meant to be Grineer
The fact that there are riot shield units for the scaldra too just adds to me being convinced theyāre the basis for grineer
When we get 1999, hopefully we can scan them.
Then we'l be able to view their model in codex or something
I also think what we see in 1999 is going to be because of what Entrati has done, and not as a precursor to what we already know from the Origin System.
Vesper 77 is going to replace my lex with Protokol skin it looks so good
The chain of cause and effect will start with "the present" and affect 1999, which then will further affect "the present".
Most of 1999 is stuff that was already there
No matter who they are they are going to die
Is Vesper a protokol skin tho?
No looks like its own model
Albrecht's changes are the protoframes and extra medicine
He definitely supplied the effervon.
Is the chemical Effervo or Effervon?
Youāve got to think about how far back 1999 acc is in comparison to present warframe, there isnāt really a time scale for it
The Scaldra is a response to techrot, which IMO is something Entrati caused - which is now already making changes to "the present".
Where is it stated he caused the techrot huh???
It's minimum 10k years into the future, probably more.
Scaldra are not grineer š
What we know is that itās been at least 1000 years since the fall of the orokin, who knows how far back 1999 is because itās pre orokin
The only real similarity is the military aesthetic
Won't know for sure until the quest.
Maybe. Not any concrete reason to think it wasn't already in use
Itās just the plague year Orokin didnāt cause the infestation or the techrot it seems
I wouldnāt go throwing around that claim then
Especially since itās unlikely he caused it cause. Why would he do that, why would he cause the plague year?
I doubt that anything that happens in 1999 will cause major changes to the present
We know Albrecht didn't cause the outbreak for sure
The infested stadium would like a word with you
Now, he may have made it worse than it was before
Oh no, how dare I come up with a theory.
I was about to say that that was an exception
Wasnāt phrased like a theory, hence my reaction
10,000 years is an insanely long time, other than geographical changes I donāt think anything that happened 10,000 years ago affects us today
My understanding of Entrati's relationship to the techrot is that it was already there, and he brought the Helminth strain back to inoculate his "test subjects"
^^^
Pretty much
First time the Orokin didnāt cause the event
Iām not saying they are, Iām saying, lore wise, they are the basis for the creation of the grineer
Watch it turn out to be like an orokin ancestor that caused it
Could be. Could also be that before Entrati went back, the belief was (as stated in game) the Orokin predated the infestation- and now, that info has been changed to say the infestation came first.
It could be a retcon. It could just as likely be intentionally changed within the narrative.
Where was it said they predated it?
Where does it say that it predated the infestation? I thought that they just researched it and people assumed it meant they created it
I still disagree
The Grineer originated as a workforce not a military force, how does a military force turn into a cloned workforce
The changes have been discussed at length - and I have no obligation to dig those recent changes up for you. The change was either implemented with the Jade update, or the Koumei update.
But where does it say the Orokin predated the Infested?
Like what quest, any exact wording, etc
Cause Iāll dig it up on the archives if you can supply that info
hehe funny laser pointer 
Vesper 99 gotta be my favorite secondary since ever dawg, the ADS noise tickles my brain
Arthur actually has a pistol?
Speculation but it could go something like this, ancient orokin knows about the scaldra destroy all information relating to them and makes the grineer as inspiration from them to use as slave labour then claim that they made this themselves as their own genius idea
So glad weāll get it this winter
I donāt see the logic there but yeah maybe š¤·āāļø
It's so rad dude 
Yes but his silly little head decides āoh itās got a laser let me take it off and hold it instead of leaving it attachedā when he ADS
Idk why Scaldra specifically would be the inspiration for a cloned workforce
my favorite part is the laser ACTUALLY emits visible light onto walls, I wanna be able to capture kavats with it
Thank you for this, Iāve just now noticed how silly that silencer looks
Scaldra unit designs are really cool, there's this one unit I liked but never screenshotted
If they add helicopters in the game, use it to point it at themš
The designs are so cool 
Does it even work as a silencer or does it follow the trope of silencers suck in games?
It def feels reminiscent of the Grineer but I doubt itāll be anything more than that
It does!
Itās alarming
its just a PB, with a REALLY giant laser attached
Wait it is, it was working for me?
Maybe I was too high up idk
it does, and it gives splinter cell vibes sometimes
I shot an unaware enemy and all the other units started shooting me
idk it worked for me sometimes, but not all the time, I think its cus fresh enemies were spawning near me and spotted me
Dang thing packs a punch too. Love how it basically one shots everything
They didnāt even become suspicious just straight up locked on to me
Huh, I guess I was just far enough away then
Yessssssss, can't wait to roll rivens for it lol
Guess silencers were bad in 1999
Is this not the whole silencer?
The pistol looks tiny without it
It's a Warframe universe pistol. Gotta be weird, I guess š
Funni guns
Or is it a pistol designed with the silencer already
The gun is integrally suppressed which means the whole slide/silencer are one mechanism usually made as a complete unit
you can't take the suppressor off, basically
That makes sense
Like it isnāt weird enough
Right? š
@solemn cloud Iām reiterating this cause now Iām curious what you were talking about
Orokin language all over the universe of 1999, and in some announcements, TV ads there's orokin language
Albrecht changed a whole countries language it seems
Orokin language =/= Orokin existing in 99
That, or the void itself did DUE to albrechts influence in traveling through it
Correct, I never said that though, just tried helping elaborate a point, just here to speculate 
This is the secret tunnel behind the plants in the mall right? I betcha this is where the hidden DE credits will be like with every other hub
Itās highly possible the precursors to the Orokin exist in 99
In fact thatās likely what the Sun and Moon figured are
But the Orokin Orokin arenāt stated to predate the Infestation
Youāre good, Iām trying to figure this out too
From what we're gathering right now 1999 IS when the infestation first hit/ or around the time it came around no?, please correct me if im wrong
Its the time of the plague year
We donāt know when the Infestation originated
I think itās probable that the 1999 government created the Infestation, but that government has not been shown to be the Orokin
Do we know if Holvania is just the place name or a country name?
Its absolutely Orokin coded
White, blue and gold
The sun and moon being important to them
I think its the city
Funny little things about the demo gave me the headcanon that they were loaded (bullet proof glass on the bus stands, bullet proof TVs to name a few)
i think they called it a city-state
gov? what on some doors there's ads/warnings that show some sort of protocol of containment, and a lot of the infestation we see is twisting and winding with tech all around the map, I have some sort of thinking that it wasn't the gov at all but the infested experiments the orokin precursors were doing and it got out of hand, we all gotta remember warframe is its completely own universe away from our own, it just has similaritys
i wonders... the soup on camp... it is atleast close to be done??
They were def technologically advanced, they had speakers and tvs everywhere
like this dude still locked on this damn soup for years and still the same SOUP.
Tried shooting a scaldra through the bus stop and it just ate my bullets
yep
Iām saying the orokin precursors are likely the 1999 government lol
good catch! 
Which is funny cause the windows on their vehicles explode lmao
Probably yeah, goverment sounds silly with orokin in the same sentence though 
I mean
They were the government, technically
Yeah right? Also the cars have that video game thing where shooting the windows can cause the car to explode
also these were the ads/warnings i was talking about the 3 symbols struck me as odd
I skimmed that message and didnāt realise I just repeated what you said mb
I can reasonably see the Orokin precursors predating the Infestation, they likely created and/or messed with it
But the Orokin as we know them predating doesnāt make sense, especially with it being in 1999
Stay away from tech, itāll rot ya 
Seems like to be wary about the signals from technology
also can I just say, LOVE this flag design
Canāt tell what that middle one is tho
me either Im getting vague hand shapes, but it also looks like something being broken in half??
It really is giving Orokin before the Orokin were really a thing to me
Speaking of whatās the identifying symbol for the orokin?
also tech really is the baddie in this cus there's not a lot of boarded up buildings around BESIDES ones that have some sort of tech related to them
also whats that?
the thingy albrechts got
Sorry for bad quality
Likely the ācureā he offers
Ahh the head ornament on corrupted enemies
Yeah, Iāll see if I can find another one
There really isnāt another one so
I think its just that
graffiti
That third one reminds me of the Grineer lol
Just due to the blockiness
Doubtful its Grineer
And the red background
yes VERY, but think about it it might be some sort of designator for the militaristic faction we're fighting in 1999
Could be some sort of resistance
Possibly, depends on what it says
Should be translatable
It does look like 1999 text
Makes me wonder what the Orokin text said before
How did people manage to translate orokin script
I have a feeling thereās 2 languages in 1999 since Orokin was used on the slot machines iirc
The language of the people and the language of the elite maybe?
Ooh interesting
I want the thingamabob
We better get a whole host of new decor
I need to put Pizza in
Everywhere
Dormizone, camp, orbiter
Yes
I want another computer in my orbiter
Agreed
Or imagine they make the arcade cabinets as decoration
Give me a usable pc to date the protos on
Better make em playable too
Iām surprised we didnt get a new message on the pager btw
Same here. Guess Arthur gave up on trying to find it lmao
Bald Arthur can't hurt you
blue tech = GOOD!, red tech = BAD
@balmy storm yeah isnāt silenced gameplay wise
Peak glitch
tried the demo
didnt use the atomicycle much- enemies were grouped closely enough that id be getting on and off it consantly. looks cool, though.
Damn ):
the pistol is very cool aesthetically and something i like a lot
which is why i really hope it has good stats and isnt a mere showpiece that i cant use in steel path
i dunno
you should have fired it near him to see if he responded
i think the other guy might have noticed the chemical explosion lol
Found another OOB but this time in the tileset
Iāll try that next
It's weird, but that's because whoever put it there put it sideways. It's just the "HE IS COMING" we've seen plastered everywhere.
Also I found something a little strange... looks like... modern Orokin?
enemy reacted to the body maybe? , lil red dot pops as soon as the body drops
Loading screen area when you can't get off atomicycle
the enemy density in the mission is pretty decent
Really good look at the skybox
Iām waiting on the video to process but i shot near the enemy still turned around to shoot me
hmm.
Has anyone tried chat linking the vesper
i have, doesnt work
there's a ferris wheel in the skybox as well can you somehow pan to that if you're in game?
if not it's cool
I'm more interested in the infested side of the skybox really
Also isn't the new years footage on the TVs new i don't remember that being part of tennocon 2023 like the other ads
closest I can get lol
hmm
i forget how they respond to regular fire, but i think they turn around quicker? i should test with my baza shortly
IT IS SILENCED, the enemy reacted to the bullet hitting the wall!
that's sick man :D
oh, there you go
Little spot you drive by up close
orang
definitely needs a recoil reduction mod, the 'aim readjust after shot' time is definitely it's main limiting rate of fire factor
very cool though
Okay gimme a sec Iāll shoot the sky
if it isnt silenced I'd be surprised, and will cope its a bug 
I used the Atomicycle to get out of bounds btw, actually incredibly easy
Nothing a hush mod canāt fix
If we define the Citadel-esque tower as north, the Skybox has a nice feature on each of the four cardinal directions
- Giant tower to the North
- Infested amusement park to the East
- Cruise ship and port sector to the South
- Infested stadium to the West
only 2 abilities on the atomicycle, so there'll probably be 2 more
Wait I haven't seen the ship and port actually
the missile launch is iiinteresting but not something i expect i'll actually successfully aim much lol
Random props you would never see normally
Janitor has been slacking
there's an open pizza box with two pizza slices in it in the map, dunno why but its really stuck with me
I just used it as a dismount button I'm ngl
above the loading area
You'll need to find an open tile but it's opposite the tower in the skybox - you can't really see most of the ship because it's hidden behind a giant apartment block but you can see its front on one side and that little tail thing that cruise ships often have on the other side.
yes, i expect that's what ill use it for most
Ferris Wheel
It is kinda insane how much the infested had gotten out of control
Albrecht calls it the "plague year" for a reason
Anything anyone else wants a better look at?
I wanna ride the ferris wheel
I called 2020 that also but hey
@dreamy cape I can 100% confirm itās not actually silenced as of rn
Aw that's too bad!, hope its just a bug š
Yeah it would be a weird oversight to make a silenced gun alarming
25 years early
If it was intentional I'm sure that enough people will be miffed that they'll change it to Silent
wish it was ethical to ping a dev and just ask 
Yeah true and itās not really something they can have a good reasoning for it being alarming either
Green dev box
When practically all games with silenced guns donāt alarm enemies (even if thatās not how it works irl)
It being alarming is so alarming
Use Twitter maybe
dont got a twitter -u-
At the end of the day it is still just the demo thereās a good chance that it will be changed when 1999 releases
Fair
yup!, which is why im basically vibing with it all
So, where exactly on Earth is this fictional country located anyway? What's up with the rest of the world?
And another thing that's kinda confusing me is if this is our Earth in the past or just a completely different reality in the past
Still a cool gun tho, gotta mod the recoil lower and if they donāt fix it, Iāll just add the silencer mod on it
Warframe universe earth in the past
Based on the name and architecture itās an amalgamation of Europe
That's rather interesting. Now, what I'm wondering is:
a) is this in any way connected to Dark Sector, even if loosely?
b) was the Infestation already there was Albrecht arrived?
Yeah, I assumed so
A) No B) yes
Definitely looks more Northwestern European. I'm Croatian, can't really pick out any architecture that resembles Slavic or Mediterranean styles
Only connection could be minor easter eggs about dark sector such as a poster
I believe the Efervon stuff is similarly named to something from dark sector, (I think?)
Yeah, fair enough
Itās Haussmann Architecture I believe
Yeah, it resembles it
Oh, I didn't notice it
Just looked it up itās called Enferon in Dark sector
I might be wrong about that tho
^^ Danke
So wait, if the Infestation was there before Albrecht arrived, who the hell made the Infestation? And does that mean that the Orokin didn't really come up with it, but just acquired it from nature (or whatever the source is)? Like the Mire sword seems to indicate
By the way Marin what language is your profile in?
I never played dark sector but 1999 feels like a remastered version of it
Looks like you were right
Orokin never made it, they just researched it
Glagolitic, an old Slavic script used by several Slavic nations, but predominantly Croats
Yeah, fair point
Same, but I know the story
That sounds very exotic and interesting thanks
Aw man
Love the Witcher even if 3 was my first one
Is there an available alphabet online?
3 was the only one I played, loved it too
Thereās a rumour that Witcher 4 is gonna be like cyberpunk where you make your own Witcher but Iād rather have Geralt
Much better view for the Ferris Wheel Skybox
nobody does stealth in warframe anyway
but still, it should be silenced
just look at it.
I was gonna say two large ferris wheels in one amusement park is overkill but I realised thatās a loop on a roller coaster
Soooo .. saryn? Oor female vor?
And for some origins trivia, much like Warframe's lore, the lore of the glagolitic script is contradictory and completely mysterious. The most popular legend/story says it was invented by two Byzantine missionaries bringing Christianity to the Slavs, but it's extremely unlikely and we actually have no idea where glagolitic came from
Some people think so, Iām not convinced sheās proto Saryn
Gonna checkout behind the ending tileset part
dammit Entrati, stop messing with khra!
Oh yeah, what is the orange jacket faction we're fighting anyway? What do they want?
> rude of thine to assume such a thing
Not sure if youāve already seen it but if you go on that green roof across the street youāll see weird texture clippings on it
Kill everything Techrot infested
Texture clipping you say? lol
Ahhhh, which means they'd have to kill Arthur and the gang too
Welll in theory and looking at the enemies design i think they are the pre grineers soo this makes her... Female vor???
Iām convinced theyāre pre grineer too
They aren't
So what is it ?.
I mean, they don't look like normal humans to me
Scaldra
For gameplayās sake weāll ignore how there are Jade eximus units in 1999
the design language issnt entirely different from the grineer but grineer were a clone class invented by the orokin, scaldra are just people whose stuff also happens to look bulbous
I mean.. theres a INSANE time skip between then...
They're closer to dark sector enemies than grineer
Like theres A INSANE moment where their technology
(Which is the point actually tbh)
Weapons, gear
My point is that they could be the source of inspiration for grineer even as a workforce that eventually became a military faction
And even how the "scaldra" can evolve
Didnāt Dark Sector have Grineer?
DE locked the door to the mall so I can't go back to get my c o n t e n t but here's some random new lines I haven't seen before
Dark sector has even a jackal
Different name I believe but same design
Generations evolve by designs not names, they dont need to be called grineer to be the first generation of grineer
Maybe
I have awoken them lol
Just maybe scaldra is the first generation of military type to born to evolve to grineers
Dark sector isnāt part of warframe canon but I get your point
Well that's basically it lol not much else to see! (:
Oh idk if anyone got this text yet either
Thank you for your service
I mean like, this gear is similar to a grineer lancer
And here we have our Dark Sector stuff (sorry if someone posted it already). Definitely looks like Nadia
Thereās also the riot shield units
No but here you go
I tried to take a good glance on them but i couldnt look at them properly
If you wanna get out for yourself, summon your atomicycle, bullet jump to this corner, slide and jump on bike until you move forward enough, get off your bike and profit!
Oh! and get off your bike with the 2nd ability NOT X
You know riot shields exist irl right
Yes and?
More Orokin graffiti
Really wanna know what this one says
Ironic to imagine we have a heavy supressed pistol but at same time we have a loud ak-47 to typical grineer soldiers.(Unecessary noisy enemies)
No not really lancers are way more bulky that is literally just a guy in militarized hazop gear
I'm working on the translation, but I'm nowhere near as experienced with real Orokin
If you figure it out please ping me 
Get to work translator boy /j I appreciate people like you who put in the effort to translate stuff like this so others can enjoy them too
Video Version (: for OOB
Did you realised this is 1999 and the origin system grinners are a lil TOOOOOO FAR from this age right???
Gray probably working on translating them
All hail Gray
Gray the orokin tongue translator
Would love to see more YT vids from him but I guess that takes too much time
All hail gray
hopefully de change this out of bounds, it looks questionable
You know they're just both military themed factions right. They don't have to be related
Quality over quantity but I can confirm he is working on a new one as I asked him in his server he doesnāt have a release timeframe yet
Ooh nice
Ok sherlock ok.
I wonders what types of sodas existed on 1999 orokin age
Like some type of orokin style coca cola
And the rival is a corpus pepsi
Health orb soda
I bet that present day warframe universe food has little flavour
outside of places like Cetus
Well... For orokins yes .. but the ppl on zariman maybe can disagree
I mean the zariman food were all processed rectangles
Nah those nutrients cubes looked so bland
Canāt imagine theyād have much flavour too
Tastiest thing they get is fruit
Grineer would start tweaking from the 1999 flavours
Our operator can already awnser this by tasting a drink...
I still wonders what we drank.
Kabuchi sucks
I thought it was alcohol
thatās why we reacted like that
Orokin age alcohol