#spoiler-chat
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i love the interaction you have with them, only for them to comeplety stop talking and become a soulless vessel in your railjack
I want them to change how converted Ally's spawn so it's not after your die and respawn it should be on down and then let them revive the player since you can see them doing it to you in railjack
yeah, liches arent even that good in combat right now
honestly would be cool if you could build a studio in dojo have have the 5 of them hangout there
Wish you could make liches and sister fly the railjack with distinct themes
Like sisters use abilities, liches just fly in to everything face first
I just like the idea of a lich screaming his head off as he flys in to the side of a crew ship roaming the artillery gun in to it
So the liches are trained by my old gunner/pilot? He used to always fly into every large asteroid in a mission. I made up the headcanon that he liked collecting rocks but was really inefficient about it
I hope my new favorite gunner eventually gets enough personality to make me to come up with another headcanon
Uhhh does this option between drifter and operator mean anything
Only who you complete the new war as
Oh
It's purely for the sake of the story - but after the New War you can freely swap between Drifter and Operator from your Arsenal.
Oh ok
Please DE i beg you, 1999 should drop new drifter/operator fashion, even if it cost 50 each
They’re doing 1999 tennogen for drifter

Check the workshop on steam, there’s some great stuff
we won
lol 
If there isn't the Albrecht coat I'm rebelling
If it isn't there I'm throwing Albrecht into the Void with Operator so Drifter saves them and Albrecht gives the coat
If he doesn't I'll throw the coat in for duplication
Lmao
I'll just steal his coat
How? You're only a Cephalon
I was given a drone body to make my job easier
oh so its just gag for her.. nice
How blessed you are that the only thing you have to be offended about is the shape of a robot's face in your video game
i'm calling it, with how strange the void is i feel like we will get ost like nier,drakengard,etc...
I really hope we find a way for loid to come with us or at least enable a way for Albrecht to communicate with loid during the quest >_>
If Loid’s Albrecht returns to the System, he will be hunted by a particularly miffed Cervulite(Tagfer)
It would be funny to see the goober(Tagfer) go full send ballistic though
How strong is tagfer?
I'd assume as strong as a deer or goat, potentially stronger
Kinepager
anyone elses arthur have green facial hair when replaying whispers?
He is cosplaying as a gnome for Christmas
Probably buck strength with the added bonus of additional canine features
Wait he's a lot smaller than I remember
You are correct, he is definitely in the deer or goat range lol
And he has no canine features at all
I should have just not said anything, this is clearly not the animal I was thinking of
Tagfer's feet definitely confirm he's more deer or goat, than anything.
Yeah I thought his mouth was more canine but I looked up a picture of him after sending that
And he is not at all what I was picturing. I don't know what the creature I was thinking of is
just push Tagfer over on the tile and watch him struggle to get up with those hooves
(joke)
LOL
there's no way he doesn't struggle to walk in the sanctum,, he's gotta look like bambi on ice 
Arthur is actually the grinch
He ruin this Christmas 
Who stole my kinepage shows up now! yooo
😶🌫️
Is there any official definition for what should be kept to spoilers? i.e. is the Helminth a "spoiler"?
Yeah that happened to me
Dunno whats up with it
It also makes loids hair really strange
Pretty much just unreleased content
Helminth is technically a spoiler.
Basically IMO it seems that anything not available to a new player, be it story bits or systems, are spoilers - if they are things not present at a new player's first log-in. So while Vor himself isn't a spoiler, his return would be, etc.
I think everyone knows about vor's return thanks to the copypasta
yeah its a glitch
Doesn't make it any less of a spoiler to a new player who has no idea who or what Captain Vor is.
To quote my favorite moment from going to tennocon. It was the fact the animators originally animated tagfer as an extra happy guard dog to be told later that he's supposed to be extremely depressed and seeing his happy animation was cute. (Not entirely sure if talking about tennocon workshops is aloud but I can't recall it not being disallowed
oh my god was that a pregnancy mini game?
Yes
that quest was beautiful but i didnt expect that
now wheres ordis i want the scythe 😈
The scythe skin is no longer available at this time
i mean harmony
am i supposed to do a certain kahl mission before he comes around?
No, he’s on the left hand side of the camp near the bramble railing
ooooh he was so tiny i didnt see him
ok ordis i never asked you to truama dump just gimme your stuff
ok that was sad when do we get ordis quest
play as ordis
Closest thing we have to an Ordis quest is the fragments about Ordan
You can all so get it from the new game mode you just unlocked
Ordis quest i hope 🙏
More like a contraction mini game
where do i find it?
Uranus
ok thx
darn my tears came out 😭
I love those images
Are they different depending on choice, or are they the same regardless?
:3
Well, after chapter end you will receive 3 poster
I know. But I’m like half sure there’s a choice before each poster. Either that or I’m tweaking hard
I think everyone also get 2 cuts only 🤔
btw, after I finish this chapter, now is the Lotus Eater, but it seems like the Lotus Eater chapter are only like a prologue, and the whole chapter end, have I missing something?
1999 in Winter
so the Lotus Eater is a part of the short prologue stories?
Yeah
noted, thx mate
Lotus Eaters sets the stage for 1999
there's only one choice in Jade Shadows, everyone gets the same posters
🤔 the naming thing doesn’t change ought?
Doesn't change anything
Tenno! Bring a Warframe.
Grineer, on the field
Peak quest
Considering what ||you find in Teshin's sanctuary on the relay|| does this means that ||the warframes are still able to think on their own?||
So far we don't know but signs point to mostly no with some notable exceptions.
My theory is that gen 1 Warframes (before the Zariman was recovered) were basically super soldiers but they eventually succumbed to the infestation and went bloodthirsty mad - so they were put down like rabid animals. Later the children came along and transference was used so the children would command the gen 2 frames.
This is all from The Sacrifice - but it's not clear which frames were gen 1, 2, etc - but Stalker and Jade seem likely, and of course Umbra is a special case.
So mostly no, but some surviving frames from before the Zariman was recovered may still be out there.
This could also work... it seems there's something left in there (the frames react to pain and other situations). There's a lot to work on, and I'm afraid sadly we'll never have a concrete answer. Maybe just some teaser there and there.
Wasnt transference discovered thanks to margulis studying the zariman kids?
I hope they haven't patch this bug as its Lowkey Real cool.
The transference project was developed to support the kids, and then weaponised for the warframe project
👍
I hope the concept of Warframe generations is canonized one day, i find that really cool
I mean, it is. The word "generations" is explicitly used to denote the difference of the pre-tenno frames and the tenno-frames
I hope we get a full version of that song sometime
its all ready a real world song its called Nine Inch Nails Into The Void
Oh
had me worried for a second
Just kidding this was also my first experience with the song
Ballas may have had something to do with as well, since their Warframe-ification was a punishment
Might have left a bit of their original minds so they could feel and suffer for eternity
My interpretation was always that the original warframes during the time of the orokin were all created similar to umbra(people transformed with tech and infestation into frames). The blue prints you get from quests are just copies of those creation that you then 3d print in your ship(free of tortured people). The obvious exception being umbra. All the warframes we have are just rediscovered orokin creations rather than a new frame which would require a fresh sacrifice.
so whats the current best amp for just general use in duvari and the like?
Got me feelin old 😂
Even tho that song came out before I was born, I grew up on that band
And many from that era
Guys I think Erra did nothing wrong
What do I do
There's a place called the Void, jump into it
Done.
I am now Voidic.
What now?
Nvm, bro doesn't even know about The Well lmao 🤣
Sap the Seed
Raplak+Phahd+Certus is what I like to use
That can work, always if they don't also get the memories along with the copies, but that's would be really too weird or impossible
Please for the pizza bike just do a real pizza motorcycle , like something very out of the game like the protocol skin
I mean i geuss i understand what you mean but like he did kill a bunch of people
And help take over the star chart
Even if he felt remorse after thats still not exactly “nothing”
guess*
No idea on what they meant by monster atomicycle but sounds great to have infested atomicycle
ive went to netracells and smth dropped a pickable 6x latri enthron? i didnt saw what dropped that, does smbdy know?
gruzzling
they drop lanthorns, arcanes and voca outside of disruption missions
but it wasnt a drop it was smth like a ayatan that u had to pick up but ig fine by me haha, thanks
yeah gruzzling drops are all like that for some reason
Hi all. I returned to the game after a long period of stagnation. I am looking for a community of Romanians.
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A bold statement, would you mind elaborating?
Just based off the statement alone, I can kinda see your point, most of Erra’s screen time has been spent as number two to someone who can easily talk circles around him(<cough> <cough> Ballas), and even when he is kinda number one, it’s an archon possessing his body
Aside from all of that
Erra made Caliban
That’s quite an erra in your judgement
hello spoilerers
I wrote down 11 AM as when I was going to spend time with my girlfriend... I suppose that was an erra because she texted me saying 11PM when I thought it was 11AM
Does anyone have a favorite character in Warframe from after the war within
Khal
Bird-3
what happened to bird and bird 2 lol
Dont ask
that's what Albrecht would probably say
yes that is indeed a line
The statues in Whispers ... What's their deal?
the vessels?
I always compare the Warframes to Adeptus Astartes... If that's the case would the statues be the forces of Chaos maybe?
Yes
Vessels
Forgot that the statues were called Vessels
they are massive beings made with infestation that are connected to the 1999 protoframes somehow
theyre like big warframes + unexplained time travel shenanigans
Albrecht made the vessels by combining samples taken from the Protoframes, more helminth and the gray strain
Damn... That sounds messed up
Albrecht must be cruel if he took samples from what I assume are living humans
Depends on how he did it though
hes orokin so he doesnt rly care abt anyone
LMAO sounds about right
ya
So are the warframes and or Tenno like the Adeptus Astartes or what? I never understood lore based power scaling in Warframe
I mean, when you go for a blood test you get a sample taken from you, snot really cruel is it
in the same vein is it really cruel to take samples from volunteers of your protoframe project?
each warframe has primarch-level power
all of them can take on entire planets on their own
I mean, its not like albrecht forced them to volunteer, it was already extra ontop of him going around healing whatever plague it was
meanwhile titania gets rolled by a few grineer lancers 
and yet 4 of them got blown up by a 40 megatherm bomb, very nicely planet takers
wat
what what
when did this happen
and where'd 4 warframes die to a 40 megatherm bomb is that lore shenanigans or gameplay stuff
Parvos blew up 4 warframes who were sent to kill him ez pz
oh yea fat L
oh it wasnt even 40
"The palace birds think they can control us. They hit our research site with a Warframe assault team. Of course they did. I baited them to do it. The whole site lite up. Eighty mega-therm bloom. The whole lab, vaporized, those Warframes with it. Fire. Fusion. Void."
it was 80
oh. damn.
probably just 4 excals
lol.
In terms of power scaling, during our Tennos' time awake, the only threat we've really faced that could outclass us, was when Ballas threatened to blow up the solar system.
nova can probably create a black hole that would consume the whole system if she wanted to
so primarch level power but could very easily die to some self-obsessed Orokin idiot
yes?
yes
Sounds about right.
krill issue
Bird 3
To those who volunteered, I brought more than mere health. Their bodies were primed; it needed only the Helminth infusions, brought from my own time, to work the alchemy of transformation. They have become partial warframes, still in possession of their free will, yet enhanced, Void-attuned, capable.
What do you think My Boi frost is thinking at this moment
Shiny
Close I was thinking more on the line of him being clearly out of his depth considering he's right next to the sun
Thinking shiny, then realising the sun is right there and he should probably run
new line on the kinepage dropped. "eleanor if you stole this i swear"
thoughts?
classic sibling stuff
We should reply
Doesn’t have a keyboard. I’m not scrolling through the alphabet for five minutes to tell Arthur “new phone who this?”
fiddling through the buttons to find out its not a qwerty keyboard but alphabetical 
yesterday at maroo’s
a frost heirloom somehow had like 500% more emission
flash bang
lol
That's 2 megatons of tnt for those who don't want to do the math
That's not something she could do
just got jumpscared by wally in my orbiter,, didn't know he talks about Isaah if you have Umbra equipped

it is!! i just wasn't expecting to get punched with feels while checking my kinepage 😭😭😭

about shoving that shard somewhere...he really shouldn't.................IN HIS SPINE PEOPLE OD GET YOUR MIND OUT OF THE GUTTER
That dialogue happens right after completing sacrifice, equipped frame doesn't matter
that's strange,, i didn't get it when i finished sacrifice the first time 🤔
i did just replay it though, used it for sentient farming for the protovyre equipment
must've been a coincidence that i had umbra equipped for it
The dialogue trigger is buggy but should happen after replay too
There's better ways to farm sentient kills btw, vomvalysts and octavia's anthem sentients both count towards it
i forgot about octavia's anthem!!! i need to do that one instead, thanks for that reminder

ey back from my deep slumber is it bad that i memorized the rotation of items in disruption missions?
Nah
Rotation is basically the same in all mission
Aabc except for disruption
Disruption just let's you get multiple Cs or Bs in a row so like not that werid.
@frail flower
yeah other missions are just 'play until you get the rota you want, extract and repeat (or just keep going, depending on your equipment)'
having disruption rotas memorized is useful
still this it not normal people knowledge-
You're play warframe.
Like shRug
good point-
It's normal for warframe players to know this.
or at least to have an idea of it
From Reb’s twitter, seems like hair color on the Gemini skins can be customized, the bug you experienced might be because of that
Seems right, my Warframe at the time did have a fair amount of green in its colour palette, would it ‘bleed through’ or was this due to something else?
Isnt that an arch-melee or???
Maybe its just a tennogen
Apparently a 2- handed nikana skin
Ah, makes sense
ELEANOR IF YOU STOLE THIS I SWEAR
I mean…it seems she likes to swipe stuff. She stole his keys lmao
Arthur even asked Lettie in the DM’s how she’s still swiping things or something like that.
Yeah they’re siblings, they probably did those sorts of antics all the time before the infestation
I want to meet Nezha's protoframe 😼
I just realized that the reason wally likes making deals is probably because he can use them to exploit both conceptual embodiment and eternalism
Me but with wisp…
You wanna kick it with a teenaged boy?
Nezha's myth largely takes place around his adolescence
Although ive seen both versions of small baby thing and full grown man
Also would love to see wukongs protoframe
I feel like sevagoth's proto would be chill
Sevagoth I’d love to see for sure. Def my top choice tbh.
octavia
As an Inaros main I'd love to see his Protoframe - but I think the real fun ones would be Gauss and Octavia - a couple of life of the party types.
But then for all the people who
might remember mighty morphing power rangers (the original) - Gauss and Grendel really give me Skull and Bulk vibes 😅
"ELEANOR IF YOU STOLE THIS I SWEAR"
Would Xaku be three protoframes?
Yes but in pieces with the infestation stitching them back together
How is arthur messaging us though?
A spare pager
Probably borrowing Aoi’s or Quincy’s
I don't know what that means
A nezha protoframe might be a teenage boy, you wanna hang out with a teen going through massive changes in life? Not advisable broski, thems are viscious creechers
it still is a joke, teenage nezha would be a monster to be around
the kid's in his formative years and still aint know who they are and thing jojo looking mf comes and makes him go through even more changes
I mean it was supposed to be a one off thing and then everyone would laugh and then we'd all move on
Oh no a joke
hell no we all about continuity up in this shtick call this the Yuvan theatre
Wukong proto frame
is just a Goku cosplayer who went down the wrong alley way
Lol
Also rev and xakus protros would look like how the frames did pre incidents probably
xaku maybe not, albrecht might have snagged the design for xaku when xaku emerged
but Rev? hell nah
What did rev look like before the thing I forgot
no clue, we didnt exactly get a warden deep dive did we?
I wanna see Gemini of all the warframe so bad. Especially Vaub coz he my first built warframe and he's neat
proto grendel
the chonk
i would die for proto grendel

Proto-gauss would definitely pick on Amir
Quick question was there one more frame coming before the 1999 update or??
Yes, Koumei
ohh that would be a fun dynamic to see 
I'd prefer a friendly rivalry quincy hates amir
The way I imagine it is proto-gauss would have a rivalry with Amir that Amir would not see since they’re the two speedsters, but then they maybe mellow out near the end
reason being because of proto-grendel being the best friend of the trio
Proto-grendel would be the high-school bully in a hollywood film
Probably the same but not glowy and skinny
Quincy calls amir an idiot or something like that and amir makes fun of his British
ah okay,, that just sounds like playful banter but i could be wrong 🤷♀️
Oh no it sounded like genuine beaf
Was that in the tenncon showcase?
The relay
Ah
You can watch a video or something
i missed the relay, so i didn't get to see/hear anything 
This do this^
just watched a video, i didn't realize how hostile they're being towards each other (all of the hex, not just Quincy and Amir) 😭😭😭
which, being in the situation they're in, i'm sure things are tense but i didn't think it was that bad
Aurther seems to be the least
Also brain hug
That melted me
the brain hug is so cute 😭
and Aoi reminding Amir to hydrate 
Eleanor has really cool lines as well, i wasn't sure how i felt about her initially, but i think she may be a favorite of mine
I like amir little adhd gamer
He's not my romance option though
Elanor is great especially because she's aware of us she has great voice lines
I'm probably gonna pick arthur but that might change
i feel like Amir will be a lot of players' first choice,, but i'm leaning more towards Arthur

Hot British man
being british is his only red flag (joke)
i love all of the hex though, i will romance them all in time 
Also amir's Gemini I will use alot
i don't play any of the frames that have protos, but i'm hoping Arthur Gemini will work on Umbra 
i would like to get volt soon though! i'd love to play as Amir 
Umbra probably will umbra has all the other excalibur skins also in the lich gameplay arthur had umbra colours
ohhh i didn't even notice that! that'll be nice then, i've been trying to use Umbra more often so I will definitely be getting Arthur's skin 
I main volt so I'm lucky
ohh!! you're super lucky then 
i'm hoping for more protoframe skins in the future, even if there's no lore attached, i think it would be really fun to see the designs
I think if we get anymore it should be for the other there on release frames
And at most all 50+
I am hyped for the nyx gemini
I am curious what next frame will be and if they follow through on the supposed spider frame they slightly hinted at
I am fairly certain it will work on Umbra - but it will make Umbra's passive even more interesting. Transference out and suddenly Arthur will start attacking and spouting one liners alongside you 😎
Sad i wish they would do that though a spider frame could be intresting
i didn't even consider that 😭 i was more curious how Umbra's second ability would look with Arthur,,, but the sentience and him fighting alongside the player would be neat and make sense
Considering how many people want it and how aware the devs are of it I think its something they’ll consider
Technically Khora has spider theming but many want a more blatantly spidery frame so perhaps we’ll get one in the future 
Khora was a spider frame until people got scared
Lmao
I dreamt I was playing 1999 so this will determine if I’m a prophet or not
- Start playing as Arthur
- I forgot the rest of the dream sorry
Might have to go to the labs first dream broken
We likely do in fact start as Arthur as we see in the tennocon demo
Would not be surprised if thats the start of it
I too had a 1999 dream months ago, dont remember much but the architecture was similar to what we see in 1999 actually
The weather in the dream was much more accurate to what wee saw tho
Reb straight up confirmed that mission 1 we play as Arthur and then when the Warframe appears in front of him, she said "imagine the camera shifting to that Warframe and you take control of them".
In other interviews she said after mission 1 (the demo footage) you arrive in Hollvania as the Drifter with your typical Warframe kit and take over from that point on, using Arthur and the rest of the Hex as a syndicate.
Exactly, except this time we only play as 1 NPC and not 3 different ones.
I like it, overall. It means that the demo has left 90% of the campaign totally unexpected in terms of where the story will go.
i'm so ready for 1999,, i wish it was winter already 
i only want two things from the story/campaign and i will be satisfied (kidding, no matter what happens it will be amazing)
And what are them two tings
He forgor
help sorry i was looking at something else 😭😭
all i want is Albrecht/Loid reunion of some form (they deserve to be happy) and a really gruesome, graphic cutscene of On-Lyne getting infested (probably won't happen but a girl can dream)
aren't they already infested
they aren't real I don't think
or they're the liches one of the two
they're the liches! but i want a pre-infestation cutscene of how they became that way
oh
i've been trying to figure out which lich is which member, aside from Zeke which has already been given to us
Well we did get one for liches and one for sisters so maybe who knows?
true!! i really hope so 
It seems its a virus of their music that becomes the liches
Though its possible they were consumed by the infestation so their personalities became a part of it too
I also have a feeling that we won’t be seeing a loid and albrecht reunion just yet
1999 is still early in the void arc and Albrecht has no way to return to the origin system, especially so as its been confirmed as the past and not some void-born thing
For Albrecht to return we’d likely need to remake the time machine, which with his help is possible but he’d need more of a reason than seeing Loid to want to do that, unfortunately ):
iirc Reb has talked about On-Lyne in a dev short and said something about "wondering who will be your lich", so that leads me to believe the members themselves are the liches
We do know Rebb wants Loid and Albrecht to kiss so I do think it’s on the table, likely not for 1999 though
She also alludes to how the liches are made, it seems we create them in 1999 and they grow over time
We also see this process in the demo where they fail a coda puzzle iirc?
I dont think the liches we fight will literally be the On-Lyne boys, I do think the infestation is pulling from their personalities likely both from their media and possibly from them
Its gonna depend on what this form of infestation can infect
zeke turns into deimos
I really doubt failing the coda puzzle is what's going to make a whole dang Lich
Same, but I think it gives us an idea of whats happening
The rechrot seems to potentially be code-based, or at the very least it may be able to spread like a computer virus
I’m guessing the Coda Strain will be a computer virus disguised as free On-Lyne music and its due to that music (and maybe the boys being infested) that the strain can fully evolve into what we see in the origin system
i think failing the coda puzzle plants the 'seed' of the lich, and it will grow and manifest in the origin system in some form as we play?
Though none of this explains how their stadium is in orbit as of present
I wonder if we’ll have to cause a giant explosion that somehow launches the On-Lyne stadium into orbit
I wonder if failing the coda puzzle gives you a random lich but if you succeed you get an actual choice
maybe! or certain things you do to 'grow' the lich can affect who it grows into
it's a very exciting concept, i'm super into the idea
I kinda hope we get more songs from On-Lyne, maybe one for each boy
I’m very excited to learn more about how the infested liches come to be
You can hear another song in the demo
i'd love a full album, i think DE could absolutely capitalize on this boy band 
Rebb making her own boy band is amazing btw
the song when Arthur is fighting the tank? that sounds like an entirely different genre ngl
Ever since she’s been in charge things have been getting better, she deserves her own boy band
Yeah sound more like another rendition of See it in the Flesh, the combat music from the small snippet of 1999 we got in Whispers
Is something supposed to happen? (New war)
You should be kicked out the frame
You need to use Operator/Drifter
ended up restarting
lol
I wish there was more consistency with how they're arranged but it seems like Zeke (flowy long hair) is usually next to Harddrive (letterman jacket) and Drillbit (alt-guy, heterochromia), while Packet (round glasses) is with DJ RoM (headphones)
So if you look at that TechoCyte coda bit, if you consider that sort of media hierarchy thing, it goes Packet, Harddrive, Zeke, Drillbit, DJ RoM
Am i the only one that think Arthur borrow the kinepage of one of his colleague to make his own kinepage ring to found it ?
First ever Sister, beginners luck? lol 56% not too shabby and a magnetic diplo
That is my assumption as well. Betcha he's using Aoi's.
i was actually discussing this with a friend! i agree with this statement but i think Drillbit and RoM are switched, only because i think the signs in this specific scene are the order they are standing in!
assuming aoi didnt already dismantle hers
Yeah he probably didn’t want to use Amir’s because he didn’t want to bother him, he didn’t use Quincy’s because it seems he doesn’t like him very much, and it doesn’t seem like Lettie likes anyone very much (I can fix her)
Oh right. That's a risk
This actually seems correct! Those infested designs work with the names, IMO, with Harddrive looking like the tankiest one there and Drillbit's arms looking like drillbits. The one on the left has got a very prominent eyeball and Packet's glasses are probably the first thing you notice about him
yeah!! i feel like Harddrive and Packet are the most obvious just based on size alone! i kinda just assumed with the others, but i can see the arms looking like drillbits!! tbh the chest on the supposed RoM lich looks like the 'lid' of a CD player as well
Logging off of discord:
I can't wait to find out what weapons we get from them 😎
GRIFFITH!!
Is the Gemini emote gonna be free?
The leading theory is that Excalibur’s will be a quest reward, and you’ll have to pay for the others
: (
My theory is that the romance is how you get one
Fu-
In a perfect world the Hex Syndicate is how you get them
I think it's an emote so wouldn't it just be one emote
True but it’s probably a built-in emote or something that only activates on certain frames
AHHHHH I WANT DECEMBER TO HURRY UP I NEED 1999
this would be really neat actually,, i like the idea of excal being a quest reward :O !!!
i hope that's the case,, i want his the most :,,)
It probably will because DE usually don't suck and lock stuff like this behind a pay wall
The tea
diabolical
packet is just a silly lil goober
We got... a message from the end of the Lotus Eaters correct?
And we got that new message roughly a week apart? Maybe two weeks?
The first message was a bit after Lotus Eaters, maybe a week. “Who stole my kinepage?”
We might get a message per week then?
you're so right 
It burns!!!!!!!!!!!
I just realised sister is listening to on-lyne now I think
Im more surprised by the fact that this music survived multiple intergalactic wars
The infested love it they've protected it
“The world may be dying, but this beat isn’t”
We'll uh... get a mini-explanation from 1999's end I suppose?
intergalactic?
I hope we get actual aliens eventually
Why?
Idk it'd be interesting
Understandable
Infested aliens. Sentient aliens.
What
Nvm.
Yeah no they're both oroken made
Both of these are made by the Orokin
Everything in Warframe is either human or due to humans
Even our most alien of entities is due to a human
Alien in the sense of inhumanness
Which depending on how much Albrecht’s emotions affected Wally he may be more “human” than we realize
someone mentioned this, and it got me thinking
if we do the Gemini emote to switch to a Protoframe, would using them to create a Kuva Lich make you have a lich that has a human head sprouting out of their shoulder?
Well now you know what to try once you get your gemini skin 
Possibly. Probably not
On release I can see it happening
It’ll depend how these gemini skins work
If their head is just a helmet, and they seem to be as it seems other skins can be used, then I dont see why it wouldn’t work
Are the Lich heads based on your actual cosmetics? I always just thought they were default cosmetics.
They are based on your cosmetics, specifically whatever your helmet is
If the protoframes heads work as helmets it should work the same
Neat
Creepy
Arthur head on lich shoulder
I actually think it's always going to be based on the Warframe underneath - and that Gemini skins are going to be like their own layer on top of our existing cosmetics.
I just realised what in voids name would proto caliban look like
Caliban without a helmet
We'd have to know what Caliban looked like before his sentientification
wasnt caliban just waframe and sentient parts put together
Pretty much
Caliban prime should also then theoretically not exist too.
Alot of primes shouldn't exist
not really no
I mean, homeboy was around during the old war, no reason for ballas not to yoink and upgrade the design
Hmn... true. Ballas was possibly colluding with the Sentients during the Old War
nah he was colluding with the sentients, thats what got Umbra in hot soup in the first place
Ah.
Why is the corpus part at the start of the new war so hard to do
Am I supposed to wait for the moas to move
different moas do different things
I mean I kinda just started with it maybe I didn't get that far into the corpus thing where I get those abilities
At the very start of that mission
The Corpus segment isn't like normal Warframe gameplay
Ohhh I get it now
You aren't a remote controlled ninja made out of steel
You're just a normal guy, let the robots mostly fight for you
You tell the breacher moa to explode near enemies
You do eventually get a fighting moa
Besides rev which prime frame shouldn't exist
I'm not sure I shouldn't of said alot
jade is heavily implied to be unique, unlikely prime (lore-wise)
dagath too
otherwise i can't think of any that wouldn't reasonably have a prime other than xaku
and xaku can be explained in the same way rev can: void does what it feels like doing
void already put xaku together, it can do the same again
Jade was made during the orokin era as was dagath
I mean, Xaku prime is easy
The lost frames had primes and they too were lost, no void weirdness required aside from how they come together
All frames were made during the orokin era?
Xaku doest need void shenanigans to be primed ballas could've just found the xaku frame cool and went "I want it in gold"
Except rev
All frames will get primes more and more won't make sense
It depends how how recent Xaku is
Most make sense just fine lol
The first Jade was def unique, but I dont see why anything stops her from having a prime variant
It just wouldnt be the jade we know
true
i doubt ballas would be stopped by any moral implications there
Dagath is trickier cause she went off on her own to be spooky and there wouldn’t be time for her to be primed, but its not impossible if she was ever caught
Its not even moral implications, Jade Prime wouldn’t be the original in the same way the one we use isn’t the original, its just a copy built off a blueprint
yeah i guess i didn't think ballas would be using blueprints in the same way we do
After Jade played her part I can absolutely see her being primed
I mean blueprint as in plans for the frame, the idea of them, not the literal blueprint item
Jade as a frame existed and fought during the old war, she absolutely could have a prime variant based off of her
Similar to other frames
yeah
'in a similar way' would've been a better way to put it
I suppose so yeah
I mean I’m sure he has intricate plans on every frame he makes so he does have an actual blueprint
And if the frame is one that was altered or changed and he found them he could reverse-engineer them
The infiltrate narmer veil facility part of the new war is so annoying
I'm not that good at stealth stuff
You haven’t seen nothing yet
Oh crap
Maybe Dagath Prime was made for the Orokin couple after they sent the regular Dagath to be head-lasered
We’ll see when her prime comes out
Hopefully she gets a trailer
I really hope we get a Dagath skin or helmet that includes her face mask we see in her dojo room
It's honestly the most difficult part of the quest, but once you get through it you won't have to do something quite so frustrating later.
It's in between Mote Amp and crafted Amps.
It is pre-gilded though, so you'll get MR for ranking it the first time without having to gild it.
I currently have the mote amp
I should probably get a better amp but all the crafting materials seem annoying to get
In that case, switch to it immediately. It's leagues better than Mote Amp.
But a bit behind the better crafted ones.
(Angels Of The Zariman will actually prompt you to switch to a better Amp like Sirocco if you try to start it with Mote Amp)
Oh cool you can see the broken sentient ships in navigation
the nataruk is really good.
also it doesn't need a Forma. @hollow patrol do you want a build?
Keep in mind your operator and drifter can equip different amps and arcances from eachother, so if you’re equipping the Sirocco equip it on both
It's also just not good stealth stuff
It's pretty unfair
The lasers on the guys aren't always accurate and they would blast me when they didn't even have a direct line of sight
I ran into one of those kuva lich guys
Should I do the kuva lich stuff
Actually I'm just not going to
Sisters are equally annoying if not more. One time I kept dying to myself due to her proccing radiation
Who is this leverian guy and why is he talking to me like i met him already???
That’s Drusus, he’s just friendly
Ah yeah i dont mind that, just wondering if we met him already before human loid and stuff
Oh, I mean you could have yeah
The leverian is open to all iirc
Dante’s only becoming available once he’s available
Same with Voruna’s I think
mhm
Just want to share my thoughts here. What if the Orokin used Ordis' body to become a Warframe while they separated his consciousness as a cephalon
could be. but also his body was losing blood rapidly.
i could see it happen at some point though.
I mean if his body was glassed as part of the ceph process... abit hard to make a frame outta it no?
they aint even glass gara's pre-frame body, they just made her into the glass frame
They need to make a quest around her fr
Yeah an actual main/side quest for new players who weren’t lucky enough to experience the original Nightwave quests
Agreed tbh, Nora’s a fun character and they need to utilize her more
I guess they did somewhat for the new war but like
They could do more
That's what I thought. She's relevant enough to be in the main/side quest
Retelling how did she survive would be great if it's related to new war. Maybe could use kahl's involvement as well
Her helping to fight narmer directly for some reason would be neat
Maybe for some reason connected to her past she can’t sit idly by, at least for the quest
Nihil
He’s both imprisoned and potentially damaged
and also he sucks
if we’re letting a nightwave character do it let the wolf do it
Ok but it'd be funny if we force nihil to run it
Wolf was kidnapped
Then we save them for good and give them a radio show
I’d say lets install precepts on him but its kinda hypocritical
but also we actively don’t take mercy on him
Yep. Wolf was Veiled and Kahl decided it was better to put him out of his misery
But he doesn't manage to kill the wolf
If you’d went into the Warframe Leverians in the Codex (which the Operator canonically would have) you’d have met him like 10 times minimum before the quest. There’s also an option to donate real credits to help him fund the Leverian in each of them
What does donating even do
It makes Drusus happy
Imagine if, behind the scenes DE had credit goals and once each is reached they make a new leverian
People who no-life the game could pay it off singlehandedly
Oh my bad I wouldn’t know because I’ve never been able to finish that fight
Me and my measly 100 million credits
How in the hell are we going to fight the man in the wall?
shouldn't yeeting the baby be an option?
That could work
Destroying him is probably impossible because he appears to be more of a concept than anything tangible. He does have goals and motivations though, 1999 is a significant year for some reason.
Homeboy was repelled by the memory of love so, we've got an in
Thinking he's indestructible clearly means your gun isn't big enough
I shoot unimaginable horrors on a daily basis
And beyond that, not enough faith to turn him into a gun
Ong
It apparently affects how he greets you to the leverian depending on how much you’ve given
Just replayed the War Within quest to get some pictures for the Queens' Villains Wiki page. Turns out that even though I have completed The New War, Hologram-Lotus is still used for the quest.
My Warframe is also displayed as the default Excalibur in cutscenes.
Those sound like bugs
You probably have creator mode on
Will check, but that wouldn't make sense since I never turned it on.
Nope, it's turned off. Teshin is also replaced by Holo-Teshin, at least in the dialogue boxes.
At least my Operator is correct.
Sounds like its bugged
Ah well, the Operator and Queens are most important.
Still, hopefully this will get fixed eventually.
There aren't going to be any hotfixes till the next update
I know. I did say "eventually".
Oh and here's another funny bug. The Operator would finish many of the text box messages with one of the generic Operator mission lines. "Lotus? Are you receiving me? There seems to be interference. My Warframe is strong."
Funny bugs
Lmao you shoulda clipped that
Lmao
Wish I had been recording. The quest also kept switching between giving my Operator his mask and turning it off.
Sometimes within the same cutscene.
This sounds like you keep disconnecting from the server, but not long enough to actually boot you.
Huh. Odd. Connection seems stable.
You might wanna send a bug report or something
I’m guessing if the quest is just bugged then maybe it happened when they were fixing up the new player experience
Yeah, this quest has a lot of bugs in it
Oh and Wally's dialogue at the end also happens too early.
Def should put in a buy report
Does anyone know if there's a way to rewatch the Lua's Prey cutscene with the Worm Queen? Or did I just delude myself into thinking it was in-game when it was just a trailer?
Yes, within the Leverian, there’s a secret interaction. If you walk on that first stretch of platform and look at Lua, there should be a prompt
@terse gyro
Wow. That is remarkably well hidden for some reason.
But thank you. That helps a lot.
I genuinely wonder how many people have seen this cutscene in-game.
the ordis story is so well hidden i had no clue it existed until someone told me
Which is a shame. Ordis' backstory really makes you appreciate him far more.
At least Hunhow and Parvos mention it, so there's at least some clue that there's more to Ordis than what you can see.
speaking of leverian secrets
dante's prex card as a decoration in the orbiter is also interactable and replays the final dialogue you get when you find it
Yep that happened to me when I replayed it too, which was a week or so ago
I don’t remember if the game makes this clear or not, but here’s my interpretation of Wally.
The Void gives form to strong emotions, desires, or concepts when it comes in direct contact with sentient (thinking, not the species) lifeforms. Given what we know of Albrecht Entrati’s first voyage into the void, “The Man in the Wall” seems to have been born of the Void’s reflection of his character at the time. He was a cold, calculating individual who cared very little about anyone or anything, save for his research. This lack of empathy (something Albrecht would not develop till much later) is what the void gave life to, hence the name “The Great Indifference.”
Eh, seems pretty sound, we'll see about that come the rest of the void arc
To add onto this it’s possible that Albrecht was so afraid of what horrors might be in the Void, that the Void took his emotions and created something to be afraid of.
Didn't know where put this it feels like a spoiler
It makes it shown that ordis lore isnt forgotten
For me its opposite
margulis looks like she'd throw chalk at you in class for coughing
No coolest?
Conjecture: given the Murmur’s hostility in The Labs, I would tend to argue that The Indifference is anything but.
This conjecture combined with Tagfer’s conjecture, leads me to the argument that The Indifference is anything but “indifferent”. I theorize that the name was given in an attempt to conceptually embody this consciousness born of the Void to act as it is called, Indifferent
When Qorvex gets his prime in like 4-5 years, I hope that his Prime Access Trailer(if he gets one) is narrated by Albrecht
Amazing, i will put arthur against the current infested and he will discover that it's way worse than he think
New Kinepage?
is there ?
Idk, the way you typed this out made me think there was a new kinepage for a second lol : )
i didn't read the new kinepage idk what happened
Ah, I don’t think there’s one yet, mb, I thought there was a new one based on your message lol
Bringing Eleanor back to our origin system so she will understand what is a mara lohk 🧠
Won't work
with the new layer of cosmetic
her brain would probably melt at seeing how ineffective the Warframe she was based off is in current update content 
at least stalker specter actually do dmg, maybe they will try to rework her around how they made this specter
Huh
Blatantly false, Nyx is amazing
Granted i use her augment but she has free immortality and free shield/armor strip
Plus some cc via her 3
Woa woa woa hold up:
The damage dealt to the Fomorian Power Core on a single run will result in the Fomorian's overall mission health being reduced, accumulating as more missions are run against it by the community. The Fomorian Sabotage alert ends once the Fomorian's overall health has been reduced to 0. If a Fomorian is not destroyed before the time listed for it to reach the Relay is over, the Fomorian will destroy the Relay, permanently leaving it in a wreckage of ruins and can no longer be accessed.
Lolllll. I wish other Tennos the best of luck
The last part of that no longer happens as we tried to make them blow up
Oh phew. I would seriously hate if this happens in real life. Is there any relay that is destroyed or it never happen due to the hardworking tennos out there?
There are a lot that are. We only have what 4 now? We rebuilt the one near earth.
Oh wow! So this does happen in real life
It did. It can't now really.
But you can look at the map and see the destroyed relays near some planets.
Like i said there was a whole event to rebuild the one at earth.
Koumei's coming with a slight rework for her and Trinity, so hopefully it's good!
I see. Interesting. Will check that out for sure
1999 will bring the rework for Nyx and Trinity
Is it 1999?
As the game evolve de seems to try more interaction between faction, tho we could talk of the first one which is invasion but when you look at them ... It's literally 2 tank with a only a colt fighting each other. 1999 being scaldra vs infestation vs hex could actually hint to rework of DMG of npc against other npc this could allow more good interaction between faction. And could allow more interesting things, like new gamemode (radiation being better would be wild) for example
Currently iirc only 2 instance of npc vs npc is good ?
The grineer on Deimos against the infestation and stalker npc
Even NYX's 1 with nourish on a high fire rate units is very underwhelming which is very surprising bcz you literally put a 3000% DMG buff
I actually never seen a kahl's allies kill a sentient
Caliban rework is with the next update
Yep
During tennocon they said trinity and nyx reworks with coming with 1999, maybe they said somewhere else it’s coming with Caliban’s during Koumei but I haven’t heard anything
What
How would a strong specter be a good example of how to buff a separate frame and what does that have to do with invasions
I wonder what's gonna be the prefix for Technocyte weapon
Kuva Lich has Kuva, SoP has Tenet
I think elfeist means the enemy stalker. I had him run off and start killing stuff during a fissure mission once when I just unlocked mars on my old account
Coda
Coda Torid Incarnon when
I hope they'll give us new weapons tho, like How they added Kuva Chakkhur or Tenet Envoy
Or most of the other tenet weapons
Riiiiight?
And maybe they do the same thing as mutalist weapon where they infested the existing weapons 🦍
Coda Bubonico 👀
Coda Pretarsus that’s just the severed arm of an infested
That’s kinda just what the Bubonico is
what koumei look liek?
We’ll find out on the 27th
They haven’t shown it but definitely will by the TGS dev stream
Wowzers, for me it’ll be Saturday 28th at 10
Sucks that there’s no Twitch Drop because of the “different time”
Warframe
Im getting the prime parts i wanted more often through randoms than trying to farm in radshares...
Accursed pink elephant!
I set this as an example bcz they seems to test how to buff DMG of npc against other npc 😭😭😭
And in invasion you do see npc fighting each other's****
The stalker specter deal iirc a ludicrous amount of DMG for some reason
And we'll nyx is about making other units fight themselves
is here anyone of Moderators that can change emale on warframe site? i need some help
All specters can do actual damage, they don't seem to use the same formula as enemy vs enemy
Yep, tho i feel like it's strange that stalker specter do a lot of dmg, maybe they try a new formula for the future 🤔 ?
My frame specters can instakill most of the base star chart, stalker specter most likely just runs on their code. But an npc vs npc damage change is probably coming with the light nyx rework to make her more functional
It could imply that radiation will be wild, just imagine how much dmg it could do 😭
Still needs to be work done to encourage more situations where you're doing light setup in moving missions if they want it to be used for anything but afk work
Real. I'm still annoyed that it doesn't teleported to us if he's far away from us, he just walk regularly, which is okay on normal tileset but in open world it sucks xD
my operator scared me so bad is this rare..
That’s no Operator, kiddo
It’s a contortionist >_>
This sort of scare? Unfortunately not. It's not common either. It's just rare enough that it doesn't let you forget that it happens.
This spot? Comparatively, to all the other places you see it.
KAH LOHK OULL XUN YARA XATA RAH
same
Ehem sorry Lohk got my tounge
On Lohk
Mood
I listen to murmur music almost every day I need help
Anyone just hum the voidic chants?
Y E S
All the time
You hum natah-style as well?
Natah style?
I just try and match the vocals as it is
Parvos doesn't know about it
I'd hope not
Seek council until your life journey is complete, btw
(DE can we please murder the old dude)
You mean Albretch?
Parvos
Frohd Bek doesn't seem to want to have it
I still need to the story to play out before I can say that
I mean, Parvos did consult with Natah and the Lotus to build Hunhow's secret private military time-traveling ghost, I did hear...
Protea, or something.
Parvos is evil, but perhaps you are just mis-guided.
The things he says in the ascension game mode tho!
About jade. I'll never excuse that
The Granum Crowns have spoken wisely about such an endeavour.
Indeed, Jade is the Sacred Mother.
Parvos knows about voidtongue?
If he didn't then he does now when he invaded the labs a while ago
That he is, knowledgeable of several different so-called 'flavours' of the different voidic tongue-based languages, I've been hearing around these dayz!
Correct.
?
Flavors of void tongue what
Many different persuasions and speech/vocal patterns.
He doesn't, Drusus most notices stuff he mutters sounds like the stuff Dante was muttering
O00OH
Dante was incomplete at this point
Wait. Are you talking about the different ways people say it? Like the Cavia?
He is now, tho
Yes
Parvos himself has no indication he knows what Voidtongue is or anything about it
Ahhh I seee
Doesn’t Dante leverian allude to him knowing it though?
He is lying
There's no reason to think that
Parvos never makes the claim he knows of voidtongue
Then to answer your question from earlier. I just sing it in the tone that is in the music.
He hears whispers in perfect English
Its only through Drusus comes the idea he knows
I try to match it I should say
Drusus claims his muttering sounds like Dante's madness
Unless you guys are covering for Parvos itself, seems pretty suspicious...
I hope Parvos becomes more relevant during this void arc
That he should, Xaku was a mistake to make
???
I want more xaku lore :(
Protea did attempt to appease him (Parvos)
Maybe. Parvos doesn't have any concrete connection to the current plot
PLEASE PRIME TRAILRR FOR XAKU
Sevagoth Prime disagrees
I want Xaku lore but without revealing info on the lost frames, their identities should stay lost
|| They/Them/He/She || is Xaku's true gender, hidden purposely by the DE developers & administrators
H u h
Its not hidden, their pronouns are they/them, they are a composite
Its not some secret the original description literally tells us, neither he nor she
There was a secret lore entry point data access that failed to get written, there were made with 4 warframes total, not just 3
There is an error in the lore
Baseless claim but okay
But the concept art shows 3?
Going to ignore then
Those who know of the true deep lore know this.
Cool lack of evidence to support your claim
Again, failed to get re-written, and failed to get & gain access to those clames, the Quest Writer has said.
Obvious trolling is obvious going through the log, so nothing of value is lost
....quest?
I will gladly provide evidence, if the rumors ring true.
Simulative Quest Writer(s).
No what quest is what I'm asking
Sisters of Parvos related
The deimos one?
Some actual xaku lore, in the conceptual phase Xaku had a female body type
I do like that they went with them being a composite instead though
....uh okay
You assume Warframe isn't in real life
They’re making stuff up, I’d ignore it
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt
Nice callback entry data access point you just put down, but k lol
kekw as if I cannot read a discord encryption over a data access entry protocol point in my pod
Okay well I'm not here for pointless arguments. Darn :(
Same here.
If you wanna make up lore that’s fine, but passing it off as factual is just lying to people lol
So, back to serious conversation.
It's literally in the data access logs of the Warframe client, holy (****) just read the parse file(s) database access then allow yourself in
Be real here bud. That's probably not going to happen
It is if we ignore them
Care to show proof
Yep.
Yeah you've yet to do that
Okay he's trolling lmao
Read, parse, and access <THIS> data loop, as I tell you.
I'm not finding your evidence for you
You the claimant are responsible for finding and then presenting it
It's in Hindu due to working with the god Shiva
Anywho
lmao
... I literally just did, load the brainwave actuator, ffs
Let's talk about something else now
yeah
What's something you belive should be talked about more in the lore
Or are you seriously that repellant you can't bypass your own thread?
Unum
YES
Tenno are so ****** annoying, holy ****
No wonder why I became Sentient factioned alligned
Why is the tower so powerful
I hope we get more Unum lore
I mis her
That's really the current best answer
Cryro
Can it do other things
Give me more Gara x Unum lore DE and my life is yours
I can freeze time too, it's nothing special
By what method is it freezing time
Unum is the next biggest question after Wally
Cryro, a word chosen used by the Aakuanz, a real life space race in existence in the real life Andromeda Galaxy in real space.
They are trolling my boy/gal idk
I'm not responding to them
Ignore dem 👍
Or are you literally so brain dead you cannot realize the Astral is a real thing?
I am merely talking
Oh dub
No, mediocre was asking seriously
I’m curious as to what exactly the relationship between Wally and Unum is
Tiz how I talk
It's something we've discussed before
Also expansion on tenno abilities
That too!
I doubt that's gonna happen
If we look at the princess of mirrors story then she seems to be aware of Wally and may fear him, but what else does she know of him?
How do they work
I always find myself asking how it works
What all can we do
If onko is correct and we make the universe dance then the melody we play must be terrible
Now I think it's like a 'controlled conceptual embodiment'
LMAO
LMAO
Omg that makes me think about what each frames music taste would be
I'm sure that's been though of before but now I'm curious to see what KIND of music they would make
Most are sticking to alt/pop
Is this just cover story activations, or...?
I'd imagine banshee and Octavia having similar tastes in music
After all they are besties
Limbo and Dante are vibing with classical, and Octavia is the only EDM fan
I feel like Banshee would be an EDM fan
I feel as though Atlas would be a heavy metal fan
Also I'd want to atleast know the working theory for the origin of warframes universe
Are we working with some like godly stuff or big bang or some else
I do not see Banshee liking EDM
imo it's universal cosmic quasar quantum type stuff
She's either classical or screamo metal
Ok I can see screamo metal lol
I think it's just the name. Just absurdly far in the future
Ooo yeah
What
Shhhhhhh
revenant likes worship music
Sci-fi writers jamming in as many sci-fi words into a sentence as possible
Sorry. It's just my head canon
I don't even know what that means
Seriously
Warframe universe origins are almost certainly the exact same as real life. Just with the Void
I think he meant same
Warframe’s universe doesn’t have canada and that’s pretty messed up 😔
Implying there's no voidic laws of nature irl
Yeah there is?
Just maybe not called Canada anymore 💀
There isn’t, Rebecca said during an interview there was no canada
she is a very trustworthy source too
Wait, what?!?!?
Canada doesn't exist?!?! 😱
Well I mean the land exists. I can see it in navigation
Is 50/50 on being serious or a joke
That's northest america
Honestly, I believe this
I do take what she says with a grain of salt, if something in-game says she’s lying then I take the game’s word for it over hers
well duh you can see both of them, you just said that
I mean, there's no reason to think countries developed the same
Like she says 1999 is the past but if there is evidence that says otherwise once it comes out I’ll listen to the game over her interview
I know it's just funny to think about
It's honestly unfathomable...
I've honestly been believing it's impossible for 🇨🇦 to ever even exist in Warframe's canon
We already have an entirely made up country in in-universe 1999
Thank you Iron for finally speaking out about this
Guys game theory. The earth doesn't exist
Surely it does?
game theory, wally is our brother???
Uhhh nuh uh 🤓☝️
and so is thrax omggg!!1!
that's just second venus
I mean, unless you're from somewhere like Alpha Centauri, then yeah, it probably doesn't exist
dude whoever perpetuated the thrax is our brother theory is devious