spoiler-chat

[nocturne kiln]

It will be, the mall will be a hub though

[plain onyx]

Sooo is he the husband of the granny entrati something??

[wise solstice]

Woah woah woah

[plain onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-bandicoot-dance-wiggle-3d-gif-9120522

[wise solstice]

Exactly

[plain onyx]

Man wally keeps screwing things over

Will he ever be defeated at some point lol

[nocturne kiln]

Thier children married

[sacred flint]

Albrecht is the father of mother and grandmother is the mother of father

[plain onyx]

Sweet home alabama?

[sacred flint]

What? No

[plain onyx]

Lol

[sacred flint]

It is separated

[plain onyx]

Well idk i just imagined that both the grandparents are the parents of the mother and while the father is like, parentless

Cool, so father's family tree is innocent, while mother's daddy is somewhat of a twisted dude

[sacred flint]

No grandmother is mother of father

[plain onyx]

God damn it the lore is getting beyond my comprehension

[fierce summit]

Ah, you've ran face-first into Data Dsreek.

It's been 10 days and I still don't know what Dsreek is supposed to be.

[nocturne kiln]

I figured it out later

Its probably Data Domestic

[sacred flint]

Just know that Albrecht was the first guy in contact with the void. Became obsessed, created void tech etc

Feared Wally and fled to 1999 cause he tought Wally couldn’t reach him there

Released infested and the world is in chaos

But we shall know more in the upcoming lotus eaters quest

[fierce summit]

I'm not so sure about that since we know "domestic" appears on the other store as "D-M-S-T-EEK", whereas Dsreek is "D-S-R-EEK".

[nocturne kiln]

Discreet perhaps?

DSRIQ!

[fierce summit]

HOLY BALLS

[sacred flint]

Dicerec?

[nocturne kiln]

pretty sure Dsriq isnt it

but it was nice for a moment

[fierce summit]

Yeah looking into it further it appears to be a product produced by a specific company

Dangit

[nocturne kiln]

Dsrik might be closer than Dsreek though

[fierce summit]

I've seen other guesses as "District" and "Desk" from posts on Reddit but otherwise I'm stumped

[nocturne kiln]

Well, as long as im not the only one, I feel better

[fierce summit]

Other translations are all good btw. Just be aware of the similarities between "M" and "H", since I see you got "F-AWR-M-UHS-EEM". Notice that last "M" is shorter than the earlier "M", which indicates that it is actually an "H". Nearly all "H" symbols in the mall use the opposite-serif style rather than the right-serif style seen in translation guides.

It gets even dumber when you start translating graffiti, where the difference between the two becomes indistinguishable. So as a rule of thumb, any time you see a handwritten "M" or "H", double check it with the other option to see with one works better.

[nocturne kiln]

Oh yeah, you know I took plenty of graffiti shots

But thanks for the heads up

4/99 pictures. Its gonna be a fun couple of months. Those graffiti are gonna be like tests

[wise solstice]

Can’t wait to ironically get to 19/99

[final crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeIeR5fbc9k

ok why does this go UNIRONICALLY HARD?

[zenith jacinth]

Kinda cringe ngl

[solemn cloud]

I absolutely love this track. When the vocals kick in it sounds so incredibly awesome.

[final crow]

voidtongue sounds awesome

[solemn cloud]

Very much so - but particularly when set to music.

As a fan of industrial and EBM - my imagination goes wild with thoughts of using voidtongue.

[tawdry socket]

Grandmother is Father's mother
Albrecht is the father of Mother

[final crow]

who's the mother of mother then

or is she just an adopted child 😭

[tawdry socket]

We simply don't know

Mother/Euleria had basically three dad's anyway

Albrecht, Loid, Necraloid

[plain onyx]

Wait, how old are the entrati family then?

[nova harness]

But Mother is older than 2 of them lol

[nova harness]

Albrecht left when Mother was an adult

DE doesn't give ages

[plain onyx]

Yeeah well, how old is the mother, father and the rest of the family?

[plain onyx]

Pffs

[plain onyx]

I expected this albrecht dude to be a really old dude due to his voice but nah, he looks like the watch dogs protagonist, is he around in his 40s or 50s due to his white hair? Did he ever die

[nova harness]

Albrecht has never died that we have seen

He stopped continuity though not never took it ever so he probably has

People in Warframe universe naturally have long lifespan

According to Ties That Bind Darvo is almost 105 and considered a teenager

[tight pagoda]

Yeah there’s some decorations you can get on the Zariman that depict Albrecht with that Orokin Blue aesthetic, the description reads “a portrait of an Albrecht Entrati” rather than how Ballas’ and Yonta’s say “of Ballas/Yonta”

His portrait

Additionally, in his Requiem journal thing, he says "I will not take the Kuva now. Or ever again. This is the last skin I'm in... because of this idea: that I cannot be sure... was it I who escaped? Or the other?"

[nocturne kiln]

To be fair, the medical technology is amazing and you're more likely to die by being killed than anything else

[vale sorrel]

then theres the tenno who are over 1000 years old (it might be thanks to them going into stasis or it might be the void, either one)

[nocturne kiln]

Well, they mentioned at some point that they stopped aging physically

I know people like to call them child soldiers, but that's in appearance only at this point (and sometimes in behavior because who is gonna force a tenno to behave?)

[tight pagoda]

Yeah, the Operators are a bit more like concepts now

[vale sorrel]

yeah back during the old war the tenno were def child soldiers

now they're more just soldiers with that disability that makes people stop looking older

[nocturne kiln]

Age wise, supposedly, we're the same age as the drifter, even though at the end of the duviri paradox it's revealed he's more like an imaginary friend

[vale sorrel]

how long was the drifter in that loop in duviri?

[tight pagoda]

Enough to reasonably age from teenage to middle-aged adult

[nocturne kiln]

Enough to be an adult if aged normally. I'd place them early to mid thirties

That doesn't take into account time dilation in the void though

[vale sorrel]

if the drifter aged normally in duviri, that means that technically the operator is older

[tight pagoda]

The Drifter's real, they're the Operator from another universe where they didn't receive the Void Powers and were stranded alone on the Zariman until they sort of manifested Duviri

[nocturne kiln]

It's likely he didn't though

Oh sh- word I can't use

What if

[vale sorrel]

maybe he aged normally before the paradox started, then he was stuck in a loop where he didnt age

[undone lodge]

Why do people always think the Operator’s not a kid anymore

[vale sorrel]

the operator is mentally not really a kid

[nocturne kiln]

What if he's aged that much without including thrax turning back time
That it's taken him this long to find a route that let's him age into his thirties?

[vale sorrel]

physically, they're a teenager

[undone lodge]

In the first place we can’t not be anyway, we were in stasis for years you need to physically develop to develop mentally

[nova harness]

Or he only aged on Zariman and stopped aging in Duviri

[undone lodge]

And we couldn’t even then because we weren’t actually aware

[tight pagoda]

Physically in appearance* they're a teenager, their actual physiology at this point is probably pure void energy

[vale sorrel]

i'd say the tenno were all aware during the dream, just not knowing what they actually were

[vale sorrel]

and yeah thats what i meant

[nocturne kiln]

Because DE played the anime card and said they stopped aging physically?

[undone lodge]

When

[vale sorrel]

well it simplifies the customisation i guess

[nocturne kiln]

Back to this idea though. This could account for time even spent in stasis

[nova harness]

When did DE actually say this?

[nocturne kiln]

sigh I guess I'll have to look it up for you. I didn't want to spend my morning wiki diving

[undone lodge]

I‘d hardly trust the wiki to be accurate on something like this

[nova harness]

Unless they link a footnote on there with them saying it

[tight pagoda]

DE counts Operator as a child, at least
https://www.youtube.com/live/5l00uFvmIhw?si=uk_xizmME5mdWOVs&t=874

[vale sorrel]

i'm wondering if 1999 is gonna be a drifter or operator focused quest

or options for both

[nova harness]

Proto focused

[vale sorrel]

i mean which one is involved in the quest

[nova harness]

Probably player choice but certain feature is locked if you pick Operator

[vale sorrel]

probably blocking the dating thing if you pick operator since like

they look like a teenager

[nocturne kiln]

You are correct . It isn't directly stated

[tight pagoda]

Probably for some parts, but you're definitely playing as someone outside them for a bit to tie things into the main story better.

1. Excalibur showing up at the end of the gameplay demo heavily, heavily implies it's the player Tenno we've dealt with the whole game
2. Unlikely it's the Operator because of the romance thing
3. Unlikely it's the ProtoFrames because of the Romance thing (Arthur and Eleanor)
4. Unlikely it's a completely new character because that would be a surprise

So probably the drifter

[vale sorrel]

operator will be drifters wingman

[nocturne kiln]

Given the scope of the old war, I doubt it lasted 5 years though, which at the earliest would put our operator as 13 on the zariman

[undone lodge]

I’d assume that the dating thing would come after the main 1999 quest to not take focus from it

[vale sorrel]

yeah probably

like something that works alongside the bounties

[undone lodge]

each standing rank you get to go on a date

[nocturne kiln]

Are... are we just continuing onward after you had me go gather evidence- alright...

[nova harness]

It didn’t even start till way after we was back

[tight pagoda]

They did mention something about a New Year's Kiss, that was probably a joke, but also, in the Whispers in the Walls segment, Arthur seems to be defeated right then. My guess is for the actual 1999 update you travel further back, and save the past so things will end off on a happier note and you can get that kiss

[nocturne kiln]

That's the new war

I'm talking the old war

The original war against the sentients

[nova harness]

No the Old War didn’t start till way after we was back

[vale sorrel]

the old war started i think a little after the zariman 10-0 incident

[zenith jacinth]

Old war happened at least a little while after we returned

[nocturne kiln]

I understand now. Yes ,the old war had started before the Tenno were discovered

[vale sorrel]

old war started before the tenno, and new war started when the sentient fleets arrived in the origin system in the quest

[nocturne kiln]

Thing is, we have to ask how long it lasted afterwards. You'd need at least a couple of years of training

[tight pagoda]

Minor segue here but you think for this shot, it'll be Umbra there? Not everyone might've kept/ever had Excalibur, but you definitely can't get rid of Umbra, so it's possible the game forces you to use Umbra so you can do this

[nocturne kiln]

Probably more given just how much they were trained in

[vale sorrel]

either that or it forces you to use a sword

[zenith jacinth]

Or that scene was just made for the demo

[nocturne kiln]

My working theory is that is an excaliber in 1999 that we will transfer into from the origin system

[vale sorrel]

why would there just be a random excalibur in 1999 though?

[zenith jacinth]

I'd be annoyed if the game forced me to use a frame I don't like using

[vale sorrel]

i thought the only warframes in 1999 were the protoframes

[nocturne kiln]

Because of Albrecht

[nova harness]

I want the helminth from that section in my Orbiter ngl

[vale sorrel]

new helminth skin just dropped

[nocturne kiln]

They were made in batches by albrecht entrati. Some may not have survived the process but others must have if the hex are worried about losing thier humanity

[vale sorrel]

i mean, the hex might just be worried about the infested

[nocturne kiln]

How would they be so worried if they didn't know what happened when they're different from normal infested?

[vale sorrel]

they probably saw them take over a couple people or something

[nocturne kiln]

It's likely one of them has witnessed a protoframe turn full warframe and lose thier humanity just like they did in the origin system

[tight pagoda]

Albrecht's status in 1999 is really interesting. The ProtoFrames want to kill him, but he seems to have some sort of public influence too

[vale sorrel]

oh right i forgot about the og warframes going crazy

[nova harness]

Albrecht mentions they can become a full frame

[nocturne kiln]

Arthur seems to have the idea that entrati has caused all this/knows how to fix it but hasnt. He likely doesn't know the possibility of the Other

Because why would you assume an eldritch god was behind this?

[vale sorrel]

didnt albrecht cure some sort of disease that they couldnt handle in 1999 out of nowhere?

[tight pagoda]

Ooh, source of this? That would definitely explain why there's posters of him

[nocturne kiln]

They were infested. He got to them before they turned and introduced the helminth strain he carried with him. From there, he guided thier mutation into becoming protoframes

[vale sorrel]

i dont remember if it was mentioned in canon but i remember some fanfictions mentioning it

[nocturne kiln]

Albrecht's labratory notes

I still need to collect all of them...

[nova harness]

I went among the denizens of the plague year like a saviour, my hands filled with healing. To those who volunteered, I brought more than mere health. Their bodies were primed; it needed only the Helminth infusions, brought from my own time, to work the alchemy of transformation. They have become partial warframes, still in possession of their free will, yet enhanced, Void-attuned, capable.

Their humanity may not last. My deliverance may yet consume them, the human swallowed up in the sacred beast. And if my wayward disciples turn on me, what words of comfort shall I have beyond: this is the bargain we have made. Through our sacrifice, history will be saved.

As their loyal doctor, I have taken repeated samples from them. The sight of their Technocyte-riddled cells mutating gave me fresh visions. I could take this material, work with it, forge new creations. Eagerly I brought the samples back to Deimos and began to cultivate them.

[tight pagoda]

Thanks for that

[nocturne kiln]

blinks

He brought them back to deimos

He went back and forth

[tight pagoda]

Yeah, it explains why the netracells are full of 1999 stuff

[nova harness]

Bro went on holiday to be a doctor

[vale sorrel]

i think he was able to travel between the times for a while

then he fled to 1999 permanently when he was running from good old wally

[tight pagoda]

There's probably a point Albrecht noticed Wally and got Loid to permanently trap him in 1999 which is what we see at the start of WitW

[nocturne kiln]

Holiday? He was consumed by his obsession. His daughter hasn't seen him in decades, if not centuries

[tight pagoda]

Did Albrecht ever meet his grandkids?

[nova harness]

Yes

[nocturne kiln]

There's a thought

[vale sorrel]

it depends on when he left

[tight pagoda]

Yep just remembered Kalymos

[nocturne kiln]

They may not remember him

[vale sorrel]

if he left before the infested took over theres a small chance, but if after they probably did meet

[tight pagoda]

On Cavia 5 Loid mentions how Albrecht took the recently-revived Kalymos to the kids

[nova harness]

Albrecht may have been a basement dweller but he did go up a few times

[vale sorrel]

he went upstairs after a year and got some food

[nocturne kiln]

BTW, if you want to date Aoi, bring a kavat with the entrati skin. She loves mutant jaguars

[nova harness]

Then wasn’t seen for over 1000 years

[nocturne kiln]

Wait.. uh

Conflict in my mind

Son says he unleashed the infested in order to control it an make his family proud

But I thought the scientists citrine protected did that

[tight pagoda]

They were trapped in a lab, he breached containment protocols

[nocturne kiln]

Ahhhhh

[tight pagoda]

He didn't unleash the Infested

[nocturne kiln]

Okay. Thanks

[nova harness]

He let it into the house

[vale sorrel]

also its crazy how the infested turned deimos into an actual SKULL

[nocturne kiln]

They're eating the moon

[vale sorrel]

like just look at this

[nocturne kiln]

They hunger

[vale sorrel]

imagine in 1000 years they turn deimos into an entire infested being

[zenith jacinth]

Pointless intimidation strategy

[nova harness]

Can’t be worse than Eris

[nocturne kiln]

Intimidation or imitation?

[nocturne kiln]

Factually false. Deimos is mutating further by developing conflict between the strains. Eris is larger but stagnant

[nova harness]

Yeah but Eris is like being ripped apart way more

[vale sorrel]

the infested just hate eris

[zenith jacinth]

The only conflict on deimos is between the two worms, and eris was the source of arlo. Eris is already more developed

[thick jolt]

We dont really know if eris is stagnant

No outposts there to keep an eye on what goes on the surface

[vale sorrel]

you're forgetting the conflict of the infested and me tryna mind my business fishing and mining

[zenith jacinth]

Is eris firing the plague stars or deimos?

[nocturne kiln]

Wouldn't it be deimos?

It's a lot closer

[vale sorrel]

yeah deimos makes more sense

[thick jolt]

If it was deimos we would see gray strain infested, no?

[nocturne kiln]

Which one has the tripod?

Isn't it deimos?

[zenith jacinth]

Earth isn't the only place being hit by plague stars

[nova harness]

Aren’t Eris infested neglected lol

[vale sorrel]

eris doesnt have many unique infested considering the only missions are in space

[nocturne kiln]

Neglected and unified in religious communion

[nova harness]

Can infested speak

[zenith jacinth]

The one unique eris infested is chilling on deimos now

[vale sorrel]

certain infested probably can

like the infested boyband in 1999

[zenith jacinth]

But my question about the plague star origin is because I remember a planet being explicitly mentioned as the origin

[nova harness]

Gray would probably know

[tight pagoda]

Infested can speak in their own language, or at least a language we can understand.

[zenith jacinth]

Indirectly with other infested

[thick jolt]

Yeah i think arlo was notably mute but his priests could hear him (cause arlo infested them probably)

[nova harness]

Gray said it was implied to come from Eris

[tight pagoda]

The Helminth and Infested bosses speak to your Warframes and you probably understand them due to the fact warframes are infested.

[near rune]

Konzu talks about these kinds of boils coming from Eris. I don't believe it's ever confirmed that's where the boil on the Plains comes from.

[tight pagoda]

The girl, Niwa(?) from the Glast Gambit quest was also infested I think but her stages were early on and I think she talked to you via emails only

[nova harness]

Can Arlo speak?

[near rune]

Neewa was only very lightly Infested and just spoke normally

[near rune]

Famously not? That's what Kenga was for.

[nova harness]

The one infested I really hate are those small ones that jump on your face

[rain otter]

I mena this is what deimos looks like on the map btw.

[thick jolt]

The miconians seem to be a mutation or symbiotic relationship iirc

[rain otter]

I didn't notice it was a skull until I got the SP decoration.

[tight pagoda]

Do story-based Nightwaves ever come back? I've only been playing since Feb, and since then it's just been Nightwave 5 and the brand new Nightwave 6

[rain otter]

Probably not. Cuz it takes so much work.

[near rune]

You can revisit older stories in the Nightwave station. Not sure when they'll ever do a new story.

[rain otter]

I don't think they will.

The most we might get is redoing the old ones.

[thick jolt]

Yeah

[nova harness]

Did you know lua has an attached moon shape for nodes

[tight pagoda]

Can I play through them, or are they just cutscenes (and have always just been cutscenes)?

[thick jolt]

Now only cutscenes

When they actually happened there was a gameplay side to it

[nova harness]

Only Nihil can be replayed

[tight pagoda]

And that's through the Obelisks and Keys, right?

[vale sorrel]

and that needs both an "enter nihil's obellete" and a nihils obellete

[nocturne kiln]

There's always youtube

[vale sorrel]

also was new war always replayable?

[nova harness]

No

[nocturne kiln]

Does anyone.... ever go back in?

[rain otter]

what?

[nova harness]

Lua has a moon shape in its nodes

[tight pagoda]

I did because I wanted to see what Nira's fight was like as Drifter, and also to see the Drifter in the finale

[nocturne kiln]

Do any of you ever try to do this? I think I did one more not in the quest...

Ah

[vale sorrel]

i tried it once but i didnt have a good loadout

[nocturne kiln]

It's just... not worth it to me. Nihil can stew

What are the rewards even?

[vale sorrel]

yeah nihil can just sit in there and mock us

thats all he's good for

hold on im googling

[thick jolt]

His sword

[nova harness]

Can Nihil die while in there

[nocturne kiln]

Pft

[tight pagoda]

And his sword on first time completion

[vale sorrel]

the vitrica and a nihils obellete

[nocturne kiln]

I'm not sure that's worth the nightwave credits

[vale sorrel]

and a riven mod

[tight pagoda]

Personally I haven't done it yet because that's basically 120 Nightwave credits for a single weapon and Riven mod

[nocturne kiln]

Yeah, no

They need to make the glass wave a ground function

I'm not trying to recreat flying sword kungfu movies

[tight pagoda]

I'd rather just save for potatoes, nitain, weapons, or a helmet

[nocturne kiln]

Exactly

Spend riven slivers in iron wake if you want rivens

[vale sorrel]

Ascension's volatile motes mode was great for farming riven slivers

[nova harness]

Not like it’s easy to run out of riven slivers

[tight pagoda]

The Alerts as well

[nocturne kiln]

No links!

[tight pagoda]

The Eximus Stronghold sorties are probably a good enough fallback, just ignore your objective for a while

[nocturne kiln]

Anyways

I think we can infer most tenno are well over a couple decades old

And that's just from training

[tight pagoda]

Add a couple more centuries from trauma

[nocturne kiln]

I don't know about that

[nova harness]

Way more than a couple

[nocturne kiln]

Point is, ain't no way the operator is 18 or under

[nova harness]

Varzia slept for 1000 years

[nocturne kiln]

Makes more sense to me that we've found ourselves trapped at the same age we made the deal at

Physically at least

[tight pagoda]

Actually kinda wild that Erra pulled the head-crush move on two seperate Dax and it didn't work either time

[nova harness]

He made an error in his judgment both times

[nocturne kiln]

Say... uh... anyone notice we're starting to get Wally's powers?

Like the drifter is our own double

And now we're synchronizing to Arthur

[nova harness]

Drifter is inside us though

[nocturne kiln]

With the Gemini skins

[tight pagoda]

Gemini skins look more tech based than void-energy based

[nocturne kiln]

If we're a threat and the man in the wall gave us our powers.... why doesn't he just take them back?

[nova harness]

Operator and Drifter have a Void Silloquette putting them in each other at all times

[nocturne kiln]

I think we're slowly becoming am entity like him. Or at the very least the kind of entity that made the orokin paranoid about twins

[nova harness]

What if he needs us with them so he can become us

[nocturne kiln]

But those deals sometimes go both ways...

We could become more like him

'It takes a monster to put down a monster' kind of thing

[tight pagoda]

Y'know what's also terrifying about MitW is that he doesn't have fixed rules.

The first time you meet him, he possesses you.
Next few times, he shows up on the Orbiter looking like you.
After/during the Sacrifice, he taunts you as a voice in your head.
Then the New War, he shows his "true" form... but there's also a mocking version of you with the Lotus' helmet.

You start getting used to the idea that he only wears your appearance, but then Albrecht shows up in those segments of WitW, completely possessed, and then you go "Okay, fine, it seems he's taken control of Albrecht, it makes sense why he looks like him here,", and then you just sort of wonder why he's talking with himself as both Operator and Albrecht during the final cutscene.

But then in Duviri, he shows up as an entirely different person (the Vagabond). Nobody you've seen before, certainly not a reflection of you. He actively haunts Sythel for no apparent reason as well.

[zenith jacinth]

We were in cryopods until tsd

[zenith jacinth]

He's not just a voice in your head, he still appears as a copy of your operator

And the one fixed rule is that we don't ever see his proper true form

[tight pagoda]

Oh I must've missed where he was standing during the "I killed my son" bit

[nova harness]

I killed him issah

Good

[zenith jacinth]

He sits either on the market or codex console, forgot which one

[nova harness]

Leaves

[nova harness]

Market side

[zenith jacinth]

This is pretty fitting for an eldritch creature from a dimension where rules of reality are broken regularly

[undone sedge]

The operators is probably a couple hundred years old

[nova harness]

Bro broke the rules of living by killing you but not killing you

[undone sedge]

We don't even know how long the old war lasted, but the tenno had enough time to form cultures and tenno schools

[zenith jacinth]

He kills you a couple times but not you you, just other yous

[nova harness]

Way older

[zenith jacinth]

Sounds logical

[undone sedge]

That is unless the tenno schools was created by Ballas as a training program and it wasn't made by the tenno themselves

[undone sedge]

Probably

[zenith jacinth]

Definitely

[undone sedge]

I mean I don't know about 1000 years old I think that's too much

[tight pagoda]

He always likes sitting on the Market side for me so it really creeps me out whenever he's somewhere else

[nocturne kiln]

I think the Tenno schools may have been created by the orokin but margulus likely cultivated the Tenno culture

[undone sedge]

I wish they gave Excalibur umbra a couple animations like that

[nova harness]

He can be here

[nocturne kiln]

She taught them to be family

[zenith jacinth]

They were put into cryopods near the beginning of the old war. The game takes place at least a thousand years after the collapse.

[nocturne kiln]

It's likely more than a thousand years given the heights orokin technology had

And how far it's fallen

[tight pagoda]

Places where I’ve seen him— for me 3 was the creepiest because he was just poking his head around the corner

[zenith jacinth]

A little apocalypse can set back technology a long way

[nova harness]

You could live a thousand years and never wake to a face like hers. I slept a thousand and look what I got. What do you think? A career con like her and an old Dax like me?"

[nocturne kiln]

Ah, so you haven't seen him hanging from the ceiling yet

[zenith jacinth]

I've recently seen wally appear just sitting against a wall near the helminth door

[undone sedge]

Most of the time I see him trying to sleep with me

[nocturne kiln]

To be fair, you are a very attractive man/woman

[vale sorrel]

would cuddle

[zenith jacinth]

Would kick

[nova harness]

He can even spawn outside

[tight pagoda]

I've personally been trying to wait for him and switch to Operator so he can scare me near the Transference Pod, that would undeniably be the most terrifying place to put him

[zenith jacinth]

Only my kavat and I are allowed to touch the floor of my orbiter

[undone sedge]

Could you imagine if wally takes the appearance of your kavat/Kudrow and it starts talking

[nocturne kiln]

Not even the drones are allowed 😡

[nova harness]

Not even Lotus or domestik drones?

[zenith jacinth]

I would rapidly accelerate the story to the point where we defeat mitw

[zenith jacinth]

Drones hover

[tight pagoda]

Or maybe one day Ordis sounds even crazier than usual... holy heck, a "Hey Kiddo" from Ordis would terrify me

[nocturne kiln]

I hope we get some kind of home base we can decorate in 1999

[tight pagoda]

The Mall with the same customization as Drifter Camp would be great

[nocturne kiln]

Nah, that's a hub

We need to have mall 69 again

So much fun

[zenith jacinth]

I'd rather not

See that again

[nocturne kiln]

People talked so much there

I loved the sense of community

[zenith jacinth]

Half the conversations I've seen there were a ban risk if any DE people ever decided to visit

[vale sorrel]

then there was all the roleplaying

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[rain otter]

Wally can also be outside in the Drifter camp.

[rain otter]

Or nonbinary or otherwise person.

All the options are available to you.

[tight pagoda]

I saw an Ember Heirloom rainbow

[vale sorrel]

i was there

[zenith jacinth]

I had to hide from those so I could vibe to the music without any annoying bright colors

[vale sorrel]

yeah i was the purple one in the protonyx room

[zenith jacinth]

I never left my spot on one of the globes above the stage

A random umbra joined me once but aside from that I was nice and alone there

[vale sorrel]

there were a couple founders in #69

also that was just a random advert bot

[zenith jacinth]

I saw one specific excal prime every time

[vale sorrel]

pretty sure there was a guy called hirum there

[zenith jacinth]

Ye that the one

I'm devolving into pirate

I should get hydroid so my daily devolving into pirate makes sense

[nocturne kiln]

I'm not trying to say you sound like a Xaku main but....

[nocturne kiln]

This was what I was trying to focus on

[nocturne kiln]

Take me with you captain! My sevagoth yearns for the high rails!

[rain otter]

All the responses to this I thought of where all too mean and explicit for this server. So just know that's a very werid thing to say.

[ember mulch]

Crew! We board our railjack tonight to hunt the white whale orowyrm!

[nocturne kiln]

It's the only non specified frame we have though. Why is that wierd to refer to it then?

[rain otter]

DE uses they specifically for this frame but also I agree they should make more.

[nocturne kiln]

Ngl, who are the pirate frames? Hydroid and sevagoth are obvious. We need at least two more

[ember mulch]

throw in yareli and say she's hydroid's long lost daughter

[nocturne kiln]

Eh...

More idol them than anything

Maybe Mesa?

[ember mulch]

i mean she is a vigilante gunner

[nocturne kiln]

/cowboy sherif

[ember mulch]

too wild west to be a pirate

[nocturne kiln]

Agreed...

[ember mulch]

zephyr is the pirate parrot

[amber terrace]

Goated idea for either a signa or an auxiliary attachment: Albrecht’s hat. Hear me out, I know y’all are saying “but Tinhorn, you already bought an irl hat and the Albrecht hat glyph, why would you need more hats?” But as part of like a 1999 supporter pack, being able to wear the hat in game would be goated. Heck, I’d even take it if Baro brought it as an operator/drifter hood

[nocturne kiln]

Might work. Banshee. Maybe?

[ember mulch]

maybe octavia fits the musical pirate niche too

[nocturne kiln]

Make one and submit it as the 1999 tennogen

[amber terrace]

If I had the equipment and the skills I would

[nocturne kiln]

Sevagoth delux already brings the music

[ember mulch]

oof no need for pirate bard octavia then

[amber terrace]

Are you guys making a Warframe pirate crew to find the One Piece?

[ember mulch]

yes

What about protea

[nocturne kiln]

Actiually... is it the delux skin or the delux shadow skin that makes the music? Planning for my sevagoth prime

[nocturne kiln]

Great idea

[ember mulch]

it think its the shadow

[nocturne kiln]

Then my prime must have that shadow body

I'm not letting go of that music

[zenith jacinth]

It's the main seva body

[nocturne kiln]

Oh...

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah

[nocturne kiln]

Ghost pirate it is then

[zenith jacinth]

Either that or the descriptions are lying

[nocturne kiln]

Well it's gotta be bound to one or the other, no?

[ember mulch]

Checking it ingamw

[zenith jacinth]

One cool fashion trick: you can equip the auxiliary and shoulder armor of the deluxe on regular seva skin to make it less symmetrical

[ember mulch]

Says the lullaby plays for sev glaukus' shadow

Custom tomb too i forgot that

YO WAIT I FORGOT ABOUT THE LEGENDARY

bosun gillychap

[zenith jacinth]

Ye, only says that on the base deluxe skin itself, might need to check in simulated crumb

[ember mulch]

Bosun gillychap is the best fish

[zenith jacinth]

Bosun gillychad

[ember mulch]

Why do all the single-shoulders have to be on the same spot

[wispy jasper]

I like the immortal skin for it

[zenith jacinth]

Glaukus' isn't. But it's also limited to seva afaik

[ember mulch]

man

[zenith jacinth]

It looks really cool with this tho

[ember mulch]

There go my dreams of having bosun gillychap on one shoulder with a stabbed through corpus helmet on the other

which i came up with this minute

[tawdry socket]

Probably to avoid blocking the reticle

[nocturne kiln]

I'll have to check out the immortal skin. Giving me serious Latin ameri a vibes

[zenith jacinth]

The glass shoulder armor(biggest shoulder armor I know of) can go on both shoulders

[tawdry socket]

Mortus isn't bigger?

Also it depends on the frame, nearly every shoulder armour blocks my view on Hildryn

[wispy jasper]

Perrin shoulders also put it horizontal work as vision blockers go.

[ember mulch]

I think its just the redeemer on it that makes it wider

[zenith jacinth]

I don't remember armor names

[wispy jasper]

I feel this is a mistake we should be allowed to make. It certainly isn’t any kind of advantage

If I want to reduce 10% more of the screen in the pursuit of fashion so be it

[zenith jacinth]

They burned a corner off lavos' helmet to keep it from getting in the way

Should do the same with shoulder armors

[wispy jasper]

Now that the parade of ember lava lamps has ended with the temporary hollvania mall, DE should jump on the zeitgeist and start coding the competitive fashion runway game I keep suggesting as a PvP replacement

[ember mulch]

fashionframe is truly the real endgame

[undone lodge]

Even better: Big Bytes Pizza party hat

[nocturne kiln]

I might as well bring it to the Zariman. Time for more embers

[tawdry socket]

If I recall correctly Warcraft did a similar PvP styled Fashion thing

[storm brook]

I just came back after ages of not play, finished jade shadows...
Im not crying your crying 😭

[devout tendon]

^ I also just came back after not playing for ages, and what is this game and why is everything different 😄 (seriously, I have no idea what's going on)

[storm brook]

Well mechanically and ui it hasn't changed that much

[devout tendon]

Yeah, I mean the whole open areas and mission stories are throwing me through a loop. It's great, I just have no idea what I'm doing anymore lol

[storm brook]

Oh man how long have you been away, ive only been away since a few weeks after real boy loid appeared

[devout tendon]

Uh, when did it come out on the PS4? Like 2013-2015? lol

[storm brook]

Wow

Yeah its a bit different

[nova harness]

More than a bit different

[nocturne kiln]

my friends are having the same reaction and im just over here like... "You introduced me to the game. I kept the dojo lights on for over five years alone. What do you mean you're surprised the newest member of the clan has the most progress and understanding pf the game?"

[warm anvil]

where are you in the story?

[steep delta]

Free the feesh

I hate Albrecht Entrati for what he did

Yes there's a talking feesh in warframe now lol

[devout tendon]

I'm not sure where I'm at in the story since it didn't reset my original story progress, but I did a ton of quests regarding the dream (?) world, whatever it's official name is

[warm anvil]

dream world!!!

lol second dream probably

[steep delta]

Yeah

Sounds like that would be accurate

Check your quests

[devout tendon]

Yeah, I'll have to look. I literally just hopped on for the first time a few days ago and have been trying to slowly ease into it but I'm so lost 🫡

[nocturne kiln]

If you give your current quest, you can probably get some good advice on where to go from there. Im not sure spoiler chat is the place to ask though, if you care about your own experience with the story

[opaque juniper]

i thought about it while listening to the infested song, its an ear-worm and one way to fight one is usually to "embrace" it by listening to that song again or a different song.

[zenith jacinth]

Duviri?

[devout tendon]

I'll take a look once I'm home 🙂 but I might dodge the spoiler chat for the sake of what Joe said lol

[nocturne kiln]

Im always lookin out for my fellow Tenno!

Seriously. I even hand out prime sets to newbies some times

[devout tendon]

Oh that's nice 😄 How do you get Primes again? Are they mostly mtx or can they be grinded out?

[nova harness]

Crack relics

Or buy from players who have for plat

[near rune]

You can buy them direct for money (although it's not really a "micro"transaction at that price) but it's also pretty easy to farm for them in-game

[nova harness]

Pretty easy when Lord RNGesus is kind

[ember mulch]

Dont forget that some (old) primes are only available when varzia's prime resurgence brings them in for a new month

And when a new prime warframe (with correlated weapons and etc) is released, the oldest warframe yet to be vaulted enters the prime vault, its relics no longer dropping from missions

(Except nyx prime? Pretty sure shes an evergreen)

[solemn cloud]

But that doesn't mean people who have stockpiled old prime relics can't still crack them.

[ember mulch]

Gets annoying when i have 20+ of the same vaulted relic stockpiled with no reason to run it and nobody else running it

poor nezha chassis relic

[nocturne kiln]

Those are the ones you use when a new prime just came out but you dont have the syndicate standing to buy relic packs

[storm brook]

Oh cool when did the FLESH helminth room get updated, neat little aquarium in the floor

[zenith jacinth]

That's been there for a long while

[near rune]

The Helminth room was first opened in late 2016 and got a big redesign in 2020.

[tropic venture]

yeah it was originally just the chair

[near rune]

It wasn't "Infested" looking but had tons of plants and fishes everywhere, and a weird bed where the mouth currently is

Concept art called it an "alchemy" room and Steve said he wanted an alchemy system that didn't make it in. Or maybe that eventually turned into what Helminth is now? Someone should ask.

[tropic venture]

probably

[zenith jacinth]

We lost the lavos room

[tropic venture]

give ingredients, mix materials into new stuff

[storm brook]

I swear the floor was covered in goo before

[tropic venture]

I can't remember well

[storm brook]

Like last year

[near rune]

Doesn't ring a bell

[zenith jacinth]

It's been the way it is now since I first saw it

[tropic venture]

yeah it hasn't really changed since Heart of Deimos afaik.

apart from the recent lighting update

[balmy storm]

Idk if I’ve shared this here before but here’s Tuvul with spoons in his eyes
Cause he deserves it

[zenith jacinth]

Is that decorations or hidden in the tileset somewhere like the stabbed ballas painting

[balmy storm]

Decorations, I vandalized him myself

[zenith jacinth]

My english just completely gave up there

[balmy storm]

I need to put more knives in him

Maybe some in the lower areas

[zenith jacinth]

Might do that myself if I unlock the tuvul statue

Just hide him somewhere in the drifter camp and cover him in knives. Add ballas painting too

(That is a decoration, right?)

[balmy storm]

Yes

[nocturne kiln]

Ah, using spoilers for decorations. A niche but special past time

[zenith jacinth]

I have not visited the zarideco vendor in a while

[balmy storm]

Guess what else I’ve done

[balmy storm]

Genius decoration idea!

[nocturne kiln]

A mask belongs on a face, right?

[balmy storm]

The most valuable thing Hombask sells is knives and spoons
You cannot change my mind

[zenith jacinth]

My orbiter shelves are full of trophies and collectibles

[nocturne kiln]

the void shel textures are pretty nice

[zenith jacinth]

One side is dedicated exclusively to golden stuff

[balmy storm]

Those are nice too
But I can’t stick those into the eyes of my enemies

[zenith jacinth]

That includes two narmer staves because account linking gave me the power of funny duplicates

[tropic venture]

Narmerer

[nocturne kiln]

I have one side dedicated to the drifter, one side dedicated to the operator. not sure what to do with the operator statue but im considering giving him the cracked picture of his parents to hold underarm

[zenith jacinth]

I have almost every unique decoration up to tnw twice

[balmy storm]

Daaang

[balmy storm]

Do you have two wolf hoods?

[zenith jacinth]

No

[balmy storm]

Damn

Do you have a wolf hood?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[balmy storm]

Nice

[zenith jacinth]

I have two oubliettes or however it's spelled

[balmy storm]

We love trapping Nihil in a tiny prison

[zenith jacinth]

Brain is not braining properly, I think rng took my last brain cell

I divided nihil into two so he could have company in the little drifter camp cave I put him in

I'm only utilizing the space beyond the root tunnel to bully orokin

[nocturne kiln]

SHUT UP!

I found it!

Unravels a scroll onto the table.

Greek mythology

it was the answer all along.
The Island of the Lotus-Eaters is a mythical location in Homer's Odyssey where Odysseus and his men land after the Trojan War and eat a fruit that makes them forgetful and content. The fruit's effect causes the men to disobey orders and ignore their responsibilities, so Odysseus must force them back to the ship. The story is symbolic of addiction and moderation, and is considered a character study of Odysseus.

Theres no way this isnt involved

[tropic venture]

it's 100% the inspo

[nocturne kiln]

Its too on the nose

[balmy storm]

Its absolutely involved lol

[tropic venture]

definitely tied to Lotus lying to us at the end of TNW

[balmy storm]

Mhm

[nocturne kiln]

the question is... how? Is the lotus odysseus, spurring us on after the man in the wall?

Or...

hmmmm

[balmy storm]

She lied about what she saw
And during Angels calls us a Child of the Void and if Mara translates to Child then that’s the same as Wally’s “Mara Lohk”

He’s in her head

[tropic venture]

"Mara" is an irl old word for a type of demon in some pagan beliefs

the word "Nightmare" comes from that

[nocturne kiln]

...It could be. We have extra motivation to keep wally away from her

[tropic venture]

from "Nattmara"

[balmy storm]

I know, Mara means a lot of things in different cultures

[tropic venture]

"Mara Lohk" is Void Demon

[balmy storm]

But in terms of Voidtongue it likely means Child, referencing us

Also Mara is the name of the player character in the scripts

Mara very likely refers to us

[nocturne kiln]

So perhaps this is about the man in the wall trying to make us complacent so we dont persue him?

[balmy storm]

Possibly

[nocturne kiln]

Maybe the lotus tries to persuade us that all threats are gone

[tropic venture]

trying to convince us to stop breaking the Deal

[nocturne kiln]

But its too late, The kalymos sequence has started. We know there is more waiting for us

[balmy storm]

I dont think we’re breaking the deal
More like he wants us to actually own up to it

We owe him, never forget that
But what do we owe him?
Maybe we’re gonna find out finally

[nocturne kiln]

or better yet... he wants us to break the deal so he can collect

[balmy storm]

Lotus trying not to be manipulated by horrible people/entities challenge (impossible)

[balmy storm]

Mayhaps

[nocturne kiln]

We could also start to feel the reverbriations of Albrect's actions in the past. Things begin to change when we remember that they were different

[solemn cloud]

I have a wild theory that Earth might disappear or otherwise change very radically during the newest questline.

What if things get so bad in the past, that by the time of "?????? Later, in the Origin System" Earth is but a collection of decorative rocks floating in space.

Until we have a go at fixing things, anyway.

[pliant saffron]

Something mentioned in the short today https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxZ1mgFO08f42MZYtlbHS-_HFpTK1qt9z6?si=8UgWzjSxwCersjaz

[solemn cloud]

Going to be a very nice change for farming forma.

[pliant saffron]

Definitely

[granite cobalt]

I'm in class what's the change?

[solemn cloud]

In a future update, they will change it that if you crack a relic and a forma shows up in either the silver or gold rarity, you get 2 instead of 1.

[granite cobalt]

Oh that's so much better

[balmy storm]

Didnt they say for gold it’d be 3
Even though there isn’t gold forma lol

[plush swan]

Things on Earth get so bad that the Earth is an uninhabitable wasteland a thousand years ago

(see: The Silver Grove)

[fiery kettle]

gold forma should be a fully built forma

[balmy storm]

I like that idea 👀

[fiery kettle]

[sweet zephyr]

Isnt forma already gold

[solemn cloud]

Oh I know. I mean that I have a feeling like the Earth is going to literally break apart until we go back and fix things in the final act.

Seeing the stadium during the infested Lich railjack sequence got me thinking about bonkers outcomes to our shenanigans back in time.

[zenith jacinth]

Relic tier

[sweet zephyr]

Alright

[plush swan]

This means that Intact Relics with uncommon-tier Forma will be almost as good as Intact relics with common-tier Forma when it comes to getting Forma BPs.

Radiant Relics with Uncommon Forma BPs will be almost 60% better than that.

[prisma fox]

Is the Archarbor puzzle available in Steel Path Duviri?

[balmy storm]

Yes, the Archarbor appears based on the mood

[prisma fox]

Huh, didn't show for me

Oh well

[ember mulch]

Archarbor only shows up during joy and sorrow

Envy too i think but i dont remember doing any enigma puzzles in envy runs

[cinder steppe]

People be asking like: "Who you gonna romance?" Like idk I haven't interacted with any of them yet.

Regardless I'll make that new years eve kiss gay :v

[ember mulch]

romance the gordan freeman cardboard cutout

[cinder steppe]

I missed out on exploring the mall unfortunately

I'm returning from my vacation

[granite cobalt]

For sevagoth prime do we know if it's coming with a syandana or an ephemera

[tawdry socket]

I don't recall them showcasing his accessories at Tennocon, just seva, Epitaph and Nautilus

[granite cobalt]

Right, I know that he has an alt helmet though, they showed that I think

I'm considering if I want to whale or just get the accessories pack and grind for the rest

[fiery kettle]

base seva does have a syandana so he will likely get a prime one

[granite cobalt]

Any ephemera I wonder

[fiery kettle]

every prime this year came with their ephemera

so we hopege

[tawdry socket]

Wouldn't mind a new armour set

Can't wait for Xaku Prime to launch without Quassus Prime but instead,

VOIDRIG PRIME

[slim elk]

And then lavos prime with Bonewidow prime 👀

[fiery kettle]

0-0

[vale sorrel]

unless theres romance options for operator (very unlikely) i wont romance any of em (i dont really like playing drifter)

[zenith jacinth]

It's drifter-only. Because drifter is an adult. And the operator isn't.

[vale sorrel]

yeah thats why i said very unlikely

[nocturne kiln]

Whaling gets you platinum to spend on the 1999 update

[nova harness]

Operator the youngest adult of all time

[zenith jacinth]

Nah, that title goes to all those extremely weird anime characters

[nocturne kiln]

Reb unofficially said no, that being a child even in body and romancing an adult was not allowed

Which frame is everyone bringing to '99? I'm gonna have umbra accompany me in the story

[fading current]

Umbra all day, everyday. That is my main boy.

[molten girder]

Mag or if i can farm her Mag Prime or Umbra if i can't

[zenith jacinth]

Can't decide between ash and seva

[valid jolt]

Gauss

[robust bane]

hi

[amber terrace]

Has Boreal’s crashing issue been fixed?

I ask because Boreal is next in the Archon rotation

[ember mulch]

Im not sure if they said they have yet

Bc it would be a cert update

Different archon for now but should still give a blue shard though

[near rune]

I won't complain about not having to fight Aerolysts

[covert tree]

"I wOnDer whAt'S haPPeniNg oN tHe siXteenTh"

Or atleast anounsed

[real hatch]

I'm bringing grendel to 1999. Mostly cause I wanna see the chunky boi on a motorcycle

Either him or my qorvex

[carmine portal]

Same one I bring to nearly everything, yareli. After all, I need a new vehicle for her after augment-ing the old one away

[sour adder]

Umbra 100%.

[tawdry socket]

It should be fixed because the latest hotfix was actually a Cert update iirc since it added the Mall and things

[ember mulch]

Always had my volt as my 'canon' warframe for anything story, his pulse helmet will stare down 1999 to the end

[tawdry socket]

Hildryn no question, gotta get them numbers up 💪

[quiet hill]

Zephyr

[balmy storm]

Xaku or Nyx
Haven’t decided yet

[amber terrace]

Same here

[tawdry socket]

@peak sail

[bronze glen]

Make sure to work on your drifters so that the romance scenes look good

@prisma hawk The things that Stalker did were because he thought it was the only way for him to reunite with Jade

[prisma hawk]

I know , they were lovers when they were human

[bronze glen]

Even after being Warframe-ized.

It's why he was pissed at Tenno

[prisma hawk]

my best bet is that the stalker sold his soul to hunhow , to find a cure for jade for all the time

[bronze glen]

Tenno killed the Orokin. His only way of getting to see Jade again, according to him.

But now he does it to... kinda maintain the balance lmao

[prisma hawk]

would even me mad , having this job and not being able to help my GF

was a major relate

my kinda "Maybe he aint this bad" moment

[supple dagger]

umbra or harrow

[bronze glen]

The only person you wanna hate right now is Ballas

[prisma hawk]

Ballas gets kicked his balls up the as

[bronze glen]

I wish

[prisma hawk]

that dude really set my fuse on detonation

[bronze glen]

He's just the worse

[prisma hawk]

I will gladly murder him over and over and over again for that what he did to the fortunians

[bronze glen]

Oh man, that song was SOMETHING ELSE

[prisma hawk]

when this came out , i loved fortuna and i legit cried

[bronze glen]

Here I was, prepared to see Eudico tryna fight another tyrant

[prisma hawk]

All this fight , all the bodies dropped. for nothing

[bronze glen]

And then the first line hits 'Healed the pain of independence'

[tawdry socket]

He does it because, realistically, it's all he knows. He's pretty insane, he can barely string a sentence together

[prisma hawk]

for being rekt , bent , forgotten and seeing all that you fight for , perish

that was a true : You lost moment

and i took that on rainman autism levels personally

[bronze glen]

The message was clear

'You didn't fail a mission, you lost a war'

[nova harness]

Ballas won the War but we won the battle

[bronze glen]

And then we won the war later too

[prisma hawk]

I swear to God , on the Bible imma do every sin twice if this means i can avenge Lotus and beat ballas to infinity

[bronze glen]

Ballas got off easy 😭

[prisma hawk]

i rarely had so much hate for a character

not even for Jaheira in Baldurs gate 1 2 and 3

and i hate her guts and her whole being

heck

[zenith jacinth]

Sentients aren't demons

[prisma hawk]

i even hate ballas more than fantasy or space elfs

[bronze glen]

The people affected by the wars would say otherwise

[prisma hawk]

(FOR THE EMPEROR)

[nova harness]

Nah the War ended we just watched Lotus get the dub for us

[prisma hawk]

My bet that the stalker agreed to do jobs for hunhow to find a cure when on deployment

[bronze glen]

Another war started

Y'know, with the whole ahh wall

[nova harness]

That’s still ongoing so doesn’t count

[prisma hawk]

Hey but the sanctum and the little teaser of 1999 was really cool

i really wanna find out what this big oll brick is

[zenith jacinth]

Stalker killed warframes for hunhow because they both hated frames

[bronze glen]

Yeah, an ongoing war

[nova harness]

Wall Wars

[prisma hawk]

first fight , German Housing walls vs American ones LOL

[balmy storm]

ah yes, real materials vs paper

darn good paper tho

[prisma hawk]

Well i think Stalker had the need to know baseline tactic applied to him - fed enough info to keep the hate and keep him employed , but not enough to let him consider defection

Which in hindsight makes sense

[bronze glen]

I literally did NOT expect him to be an ACTUAL Man in A GODDAMN WALL

[zenith jacinth]

Not his real form

[bronze glen]

Probably does not have a real form at all

[nova harness]

The only paper I see is a Stalker he can’t even handle getting shot

[balmy storm]

Very likely does not

[prisma hawk]

Anyway, i can at least agree to not cross the stalker and the baby , if he does not frick around in my mission

[balmy storm]

Real
His acolytes do a better job at killing us lmao

[balmy storm]

Stalker still invades our missions, he just doesn’t bring the baby

[prisma hawk]

or poison damage

[bronze glen]

Only because they spawn in Steel Path.

[prisma hawk]

i hate poison

[balmy storm]

true

[bronze glen]

Play Jade. He won't attack you, and give his loot for free.

[prisma hawk]

You are probably joking - i call cap

[zenith jacinth]

Stalker was most likely a competent warrior even before being transformed, would be dumb to have a guard that can't fight. Hunhow most likely just paid him for every dead frame or something

[bronze glen]

Evidently, I am not

[zenith jacinth]

He'll say "Never.", drop loot and leave

[prisma hawk]

RLY

[bronze glen]

Stalker became a Mercenary and Hunhow was the highest bidder. Probably paid him in Tauforged Crimson Shards, hence why he does red crits

[prisma hawk]

I am bamboozled , dumbfounded and probably shocked

[zenith jacinth]

Not that it matters, guardian stalker is even weaker than shadow stalker

Just delete him when he shows up and continue the mission

[bronze glen]

Protector Stalker

Have some respect on Daddy's name

[zenith jacinth]

I looked at his codex entry once to see his stats

[prisma hawk]

I can support this theory.
I mean , if it comes to my GF id do crazy stuff too
I mean we had some serious stuff and i did some things too.

I can relate hard.
A man in love would do any crime any sin and every atrocity to protect his loved ones

Like i said before

[zenith jacinth]

I'm not memorizing all the different forms of Edgy McEdgelord

[prisma hawk]

that was my "He maybe aint that bad" moment

[bronze glen]

He's only edgy because that's all he has left. Mans cant even speak full sentences.

[zenith jacinth]

He can

[bronze glen]

Probably had to fight off the infestation takeover with pure will

[bronze glen]

Well yeah, but he struggles with them I feel like

[prisma hawk]

nah he probably wanted to be in a black metal band , but ruined his voice , got kicked out and lost his shawzin

[zenith jacinth]

Or he's a slightly more sane umbra

[bronze glen]

Possible

[ember mulch]

If i remember correctly from the jade lore-bit near teshin, it was just ballas going 'haha lol get trolled' and leaving him like umbra

[bronze glen]

Umbra and Stalker about to be best dad friends

I wanna see this interaction DE.

[prisma hawk]

oh no... now brace for the warframe dadjoke battle

[bronze glen]

I wanna see Umbra walking around in the Orbiter too, come on

Umbra walks around the Orbiter, Stalker drops by for dad instructions

UMBRA HOW DO I CHANGE THE DIAPERS, HELP

[prisma hawk]

stalker trying to change diapers

or trying to play with the kiddo with a live fire grenade

[zenith jacinth]

Umbra decoration like the roombas

[bronze glen]

Umbra just does a facepalm and shows him

[prisma hawk]

Or he makes him a mini scythe

[bronze glen]

That'd be nice

Mini Harmony/Hate

[prisma hawk]

Wanna know the weirdest thing

Ive seen my metal buddies , like real social dumpsterfires

turn into superb and loving dads their own

My friends and me we were real bad weirdos , and i can see the greatest and most awkward people turn into great guys when given the opportunity

so id really love to see something like this with the stalker ^^

[tawdry socket]

More like Stalker just holds out baby with a full diaper to Umbra and says "HOW....."

[bronze glen]

This needs to be in the game and it will be GOTY

[prisma hawk]

cuz thats all he can say , and probably is short before puking inside the frame

[zenith jacinth]

My brain failed to brain and I thought you meant literal metal buddies. Just people made of metal. I should've kept sleeping, clearly my brain cell isn't awake yet

[prisma hawk]

i dont wanna know how warbaby poo smells

i guess deimos probably smells like perfume in comparison

[prisma hawk]

nah im a metalhead dude^^

[bronze glen]

It'd be the opposite

Deimos is literally flesh lmao

[prisma hawk]

doesnt look healthy either

[zenith jacinth]

Infestation itself probably doesn't smell like anything before organisms get assimilated

[bronze glen]

I'm still eating it

[zenith jacinth]

It's technofungus

[prisma hawk]

but anyway i bet warbabys poo is a geneva convention worthy smell

[ember mulch]

i mean kavats like eating infestation so

[prisma hawk]

like makes mustardgas to floral scent

[prisma hawk]

swedes eat fermented fish

that doesnt mean it doesnt stink

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah I figured that out after a few seconds

[prisma hawk]

HOLD ON A MOMENT
Do warframes need to crap

[zenith jacinth]

No

[ember mulch]

probably not

*unless you're grendel

Grendel excretes from his other mouth

[zenith jacinth]

There's barely any intact organs left in there

[prisma hawk]

Whats happening if the operator is amidst the firefight of his life , or battling sorta corpus or grineer ships - and really , like terminally urgent needs to take a dump

do they commit to the bit and crap their suit

[ember mulch]

now that i think about it there are no hygeine facilities in warframe

ordis wheres the toilet

[zenith jacinth]

The chair™ most likely deals with stuff like that if necessary

[prisma hawk]

or do they hop out the chamber , idk dump in helminths mouth, go back into the chair remote control thingies and continue whatever murderfest they are into?

same goes for takin a wee

[zenith jacinth]

Tenno are like 50% void so I wouldn't be surprised if their bodies got energy from some sort of photosynthesis

[ember mulch]

lets say by void magic we are incapable of excretion (i mean we rarely eat, theres only like one cutscene of us eating)

[prisma hawk]

so you bet that they telekinesis their crap out their bodies?

[chilly pine]

probably get our energy same way as the necracoils do yeah

[prisma hawk]

like make it fly to the next toilet in a no wipe dump

[ember mulch]

100% digestion efficiency

[zenith jacinth]

I assume tenno just don't need to

[prisma hawk]

ok its late for me, im asking dumb stuff

[ember mulch]

no this is important
where actually is the hygiene in warframe

ignoring helminth

cant even wash the blood off our hands

[prisma hawk]

Or the frame

like for me , my frame would be crimson and crusty

[ember mulch]

is helminth actually an all-in-one washing machine + bathtub + warframe closet

(Helminth defintely deals with the warframe cleaning)

[zenith jacinth]

Dripter camp

[prisma hawk]

Where the heck are all the materials and the ammo and the guns+

[ember mulch]

oh right the river (pre-drifter camp tho oh no)

[zenith jacinth]

Stored in the orbiter, it's much larger than the areas we walk around in

[prisma hawk]

ok good point

[zenith jacinth]

Short flight to earth and then back to where we were

[prisma hawk]

Are the Tennos unionized , paid and need to meet OSHA / Work Safety norms

Do they pay taxes

[ember mulch]

I mean theres no geneva convention we pay, so

Space taxes however

Only apply to liches

[prisma hawk]

Is there an institution that ensures the spaceships arent death traps

[ember mulch]

So fortunately no tax in space

[prisma hawk]

and if yes where is the driving license of the tennos

[zenith jacinth]

We definitely get paid, but only the people we interact with are concerned about work safety

[prisma hawk]

The branches around the magic chair are a safety hazard

[zenith jacinth]

They're barely even real

[ember mulch]

the entire ship becomes a safety hazard when conditions are met

[prisma hawk]

You cant operate a warmachine if you have broken your leg from stumbling over cables or the branches

[zenith jacinth]

Ordis is our driver, we just tell him where to go

[prisma hawk]

Honesty i dont trust a half baked berzerk AI

[ember mulch]

idk ordan karris was a cool guy

I trust him around people

[prisma hawk]

I love you Ordis , but i dont trust your ship skill

lemme fly

[zenith jacinth]

I trust orokin engineering to stay intact

[ember mulch]

We know how to pilot railjacks so we have some knowledge

[prisma hawk]

Is the maintenance personal qualified and meets the mandatory requirements of tech knowledge and do they have a regulated workschedule

[zenith jacinth]

They may have been incredibly stupid but the stuff they built still being mostly intact over 1000 years later is a good sign

[prisma hawk]

and where are the friggin kitchens and toilets

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[ember mulch]

yes, yes, and workschedule is when we are

[ember mulch]

The zariman has kitchen stuff

[prisma hawk]

I bet a german government agent for all this stuff would be a nightmare for the tenno

[zenith jacinth]

The only maintenance my rj ever needs is when my pilot crewmate decides it's time to collect space rocks again

[prisma hawk]

im not flying to a half rekt millenia old ship , barely staying in our dimension for a goddamn burger every time

[ember mulch]

The food on the zariman sucks anyways

Its just nutrient cubes

[prisma hawk]

I bet they even aint got chocolate and salmiakki

and the fact that the ships population is nearly rekt is no excuse for letting it look like a dump inside

imagine a corpus employee trips and has to go to hospital

they can and WILL get sued

[zenith jacinth]

They have exciting food like protein and insert other nutrient cube flavor here

[zenith jacinth]

There's no one left alive on the zariman

[prisma hawk]

the dudes in the hub arent fully dead either

[ember mulch]

also the cooking equipment on the zariman is just frying pan and automated air fryers/cooker variations

[zenith jacinth]

They are more than dead, actually

[prisma hawk]

if they have the time to make guns they have the time to clean the damn ship

[zenith jacinth]

They're the memories of the crew given form by void magic

[prisma hawk]

No wonder the universe said nono when they traveled

[ember mulch]

they dont make guns tho
just funkify them

[prisma hawk]

ship looks like the NYC dump

no wonder the other dimension keeps it stuck

[ember mulch]

We need the janitor from lavos' lore back

[prisma hawk]

if they got time to funkify them they can at least clean ub the hub

[zenith jacinth]

Not even that, cav just collected them from all over the ship

[prisma hawk]

even then if they can do this they can clean

[zenith jacinth]

The void made them all incarnon-y

[prisma hawk]

OH LORD imagine the job of a janitor in the Warframe universe

[zenith jacinth]

You expect four void ghosts to maintain a ship meant for thousands of people for no reason?

[prisma hawk]

youre the poorest shmuck of shmucks

[prisma hawk]

If they are millenia old , they could at least trim the hedges in the hub and tidy up the hub

[zenith jacinth]

The verd-ies take care of the plants

[prisma hawk]

i dont need them to clean where we fight , but i dont wanna trade in a place that looks like the space ship form of a tetanus ridden urban sofa

cmon ship

do funky space magic

its the future

they dont even have roombas

[prisma hawk]

Uhm i have another factual question topic

are there void diseases

what do the tenno do when they get a souped up space void diarrhea

do they emit forcebeams , do they drop idk iradite?
which brings us back to the topic of hygiene

[zenith jacinth]

Unknown

[prisma hawk]

oh man i shud go sleep

Anyway thanks lads for the chat , i had laughed a lot

[sour adder]

Hello again

What’s the current topic of discoussion today

[prisma hawk]

Welcome to the debate of Warframe space hygiene , safety laws and overall workplace security

[sour adder]

Hit me. With questions and theories, of course.

Also are you a helldiver perchance?

[prisma hawk]

On vacation by force because my PC decided to undemocratically and highly treasonable quit service
So i have to find other means to defend our beloved super earth from the filth lurking within super earth and outer space.

A Helldiver never quits service! he just transfers to another place in dire need of Liberty , Freedom and Peace!

[prisma hawk]

How do Warframes/Operators take a dump in deployment

[sour adder]

It’s machine spirit lacks the power of liberty to continue

[sour adder]

Hide in a dark corner and leave the transference pod or whatever they sit in

Probably

[prisma hawk]

or outright commit to the bit and crap themselves

ON ACTIVE DUTY!

[sour adder]

Waframes are infested flesh, I’m relatively sure they just reclaim it to keep their infested bodies alive

[prisma hawk]

i highly would doubt that a bulletproof titanium looking warframe is still flesh

Wait a minute

[sour adder]

…why do you think they can stil bleed

[prisma hawk]

no one said something that oil cannot count as blood

[sour adder]

Actually, have you seen umbras sundered helm?

[prisma hawk]

Yep

[sour adder]

That’s basically all Warframes

[prisma hawk]

But on other hand , what about Xaku , citrine and Gauss

Gauss is literally a speedmech

give him boosters and hes a gundam

[sour adder]

Xaku is made of other frames, not sure about citrine

[zenith jacinth]

They are made of infestation

[sour adder]

^^^

[balmy storm]

I heard
Xaku

[sour adder]

Scrappy to the rescue

[balmy storm]

All Warframes are made of the infestation

Even Citrine

[prisma hawk]

Yeah , but i doubt that its still flesh

i mean , hard as hell?

[zenith jacinth]

It's just shaped and morphed to not look like infestation

[sour adder]

Juggernauts have extremely thick armor

[prisma hawk]

Good point , i bet it wouldnt be so cool if everyone would look like a crack nidus

[zenith jacinth]

It is, infested can do a senator armstrong and become like steel

[prisma hawk]

Every Warframe would be able to pull a bibilical BE NOT AFRAID.png move

if still looking infestation ish

[balmy storm]

Many warframes still look infested

[prisma hawk]

i mean Nidus looks like he has every STD plus super tetanus and a funky accident with manga culture

[balmy storm]

Citrine looks infested
She just also has crystals
Which the infestation can produce iirc, see Deimos gems

[zenith jacinth]

The infestation can somehow crystallize into gems, yes

[prisma hawk]

Which technically alters the composition into not flesh

same goes for steel

[sour adder]

And also grow extremely bloody large

[zenith jacinth]

Welcome to sci-fi, where everything works because space magic

[prisma hawk]

dumb laughter
Hehe
Big Jewels

[zenith jacinth]

It's just really dense crystalline infestation

[balmy storm]

The infestation is highly versatile in what it can do

[prisma hawk]

i know its pretty damn fascinating

[sour adder]

By the way, are sentients immune to the infestation at all?

[zenith jacinth]

Nanomachines Technofungus, son!

[prisma hawk]

IIRC sentients are Orokin mechs who rebelled

[zenith jacinth]

Apparently

[balmy storm]

They can def adapt to it, but the infestation is incredibly overwhelming so idk

[sour adder]

Not mechs

[balmy storm]

The sentients aren’t mechs

[sour adder]

They’re highly advanced technoorganic things made by the orokin

[prisma hawk]

They were created by the Orokin and baseline pulled the french revolution

[zenith jacinth]

Sentients seem to be at least partially organic looking at their bodies. Either that or the orokin synthesized some very realistic bones

[prisma hawk]

they Nuh uhd the Orokin

Orokin invented Warframes

[balmy storm]

Still aren’t mechs

[sour adder]

I’m actually wondering what the most powerful sentient form is

[zenith jacinth]

Brain still not braining

[balmy storm]

The sentients are true artificial intelligence, capable of adapting quickly with a built in weakness to the void, they are robots
They were sent to Tau to terraform the system for the Orokin, after they were done they realized the Orokin suck and thus we got the Old War

[zenith jacinth]

There's those "lords of tau" pazuul mentions iirc

[prisma hawk]

imprints provided by Cephalon Simaris revealed that they were originally created by the Orokin as terraforming machines, to be sent to the Tau System.[1] For this purpose, they were gifted with an extreme degree of adaptability and resilience, bordering on true self-determination. As their name suggests, they inadvertently gained sentience. Coupled with their own innate abilities, they proved to be a formidable threat for the Orokin Empire, almost leading it to its downfall. All Sentients deal 64 Tau damage, alluding to their home system.

Who wouldve seen this coming

[balmy storm]

I know what sentients are

Those still aren’t “mechs”

[sour adder]

I wonder if they’re like the central hub for the sentients 🤔

[sour adder]

Mechs imply a sort of pilot, of which sentients have none

[prisma hawk]

ive seen funky automatic mech concepts

[balmy storm]

Also you should def be careful taking stuff from the wiki, lore-wise its more fallible

[balmy storm]

Exactly

[balmy storm]

The sentients are robots, sentient machines
Not mechs made to be piloted, that would be the literal mechs known as Necramechs

[undone lodge]

An automatic mech is just a robot

[balmy storm]

Mech implies a pilot of which the sentients have none

[sour adder]

(ALSO) where would the pilot even be able to control the sentient from? Most of the forms we see either have a completely full space or just arms legs and a core

[undone lodge]

Unless it’s like a Titanfall style thing

[zenith jacinth]

Was dr doofenschmirtz in charge of building things for the orokin? Would explain why every single idea and invention they ever had backfired...

[undone lodge]

But that’s more of an inbetween kind of deal than just fully automatic anyway

[balmy storm]

The closest thing to mechs in Warframe are the Warframes themselves or the literal mechs we already have lol

[zenith jacinth]

Or the vessels, technically

[balmy storm]

The vessels too, yeah

[prisma hawk]

Many franchises , such as warhammer - battletech and even japanese media have distinctly classified autonomous mechs - they are autonomously acting fighting units , mostly depicted by a lack of cockpits and an AI core instead. If needed i can supply models , sheets and lore from Warhammer and Battletech specifically but thats another debate - in fact the sentients have still been created and pulled the usual rebellion against their makers

[zenith jacinth]

Mechs are either piloted or just large robots.

[balmy storm]

And the sentients are just normal robots that adapt good

They don’t have a variant that’s controlled

[prisma hawk]

Aw shucks , embedding SARNA doesnt work

[sour adder]

There isn’t even a physical way to pilot a sentient, which is what a mech is, piloted.

[balmy storm]

I really wouldn’t classify the sentients as mechs

[prisma hawk]

its not needed

A mech is mostly classified due to media as a mostly walking battlemachine or walking machine of larger dimensions , due to the size of the sentients id argue that they are probably a bit more on the far edge of space age style and far future stuff

But still the concept of a mech is still a machine of larger dimensions than common vehicles or assets

[balmy storm]

The sentients aren’t mechs, they don’t exist for war, they existed for terraforming
Then went to war
They aren’t pilot-able and aren’t just AI inhabiting a robot body, that is their body

By no definition would I ever classify the sentients as a “mech”

[sour adder]

Can I send pictures I. Here?

[balmy storm]

Yes

[prisma hawk]

Well the part that they dont exist for war surely turned out a fine way

xD

[sour adder]

Grand

The walking vehicles isn’t important

[balmy storm]

Yeah, cause they realized the Orokin suck and that Tau is their home and it shall not be desecrated by the Orokin

[prisma hawk]

The Spidermech (official designation unknown) was a colossal class hexapod autonomous drone BattleMech, which was developed using data cores created by Jerome Blake in the mid 2400s. Blake purportedly created the colossal drone to safeguard a data core containing information about the use of plasma for weapons and shields. It, and the other cores, were kept secret and protected by a secret society within ComStar known as the Covenant. In the months prior to the Jihad, the Word of Blake located the drone and core on Thestria and pitted it against a Wolf's Dragoons MechWarrior. The Dragoon pilot defeated the drone by targeting weak spots in its leg joints.

[balmy storm]

They fought for their right to be free and to have a home

[prisma hawk]

Battletech

AFAIK one of the oldest players in mech stuff

[balmy storm]

The sentients aren’t mechs in any sense of the word other than being mechanical
Because they are robots