#spoiler-chat
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Uranus, also like sounds like theres a massive descrepancy with your whole thing
Do people even read the warnings... Point being that Jade Shadows hit and it hit like a red crit
Not to the enemies of the Tenno they aren't
they should. warnings are good.
i will never be for less information.
Yeah... People don't read the warnings I did and I played the quest anyway because I like Stalker as a character big mistake lmao
namely, after all these years there doesnt appear to be a mention of this in TSD online. Either google sucks or something isnt right here
It was an Easter egg
Plus, who stares at a window?
easter eggs are discussed online too
It’s not liked anybody remember the old stuff
this is a thing
won't go into details about why Jade Shadows affected me but this is what the content warning says:
Content warning: This quest contains scenes of trauma related to motherhood.
it did
It was a good quest with good moments. Sorry that it triggered you (sincerely)
it's just whyyyyyyyyy...
Yeah it did. Idk
how long ago was this?
Jade Shadows replaced all of Stalker's dialogue with the new VA, including lines from TSD.
oh wow im going to listen to that rn
Can I just say I find it strange that Warframe offers Content Warnings in their quests ETC but offers no way to censor/skip these sections?
Why would they when they already told you to be prepared?
Let's assume at some point in your life, Grass did something awful to you that left you with trauma that will send you into a manic or depressive episode at the sight of it
Telling you "Hey you'll see grass at some point in the next 3 hours" isn't the perfect safety net you'd expect it to be
Well with this hypothetical scenario thing is it’s in a game that isn’t just for you it’s for everyone and if you don’t want to see grass you could always just not do the quest that has grass
it wouldn't be suprising if the third orb fight would be actually the hardest boss in the game (maybe even more than 60 eyes)
I mean, they could just revert some of the mechanic, for example if they take the mechanic of the shield pusher from first orb + the slam of the second orb
It could be hard to dodge it
Like what i mean is that instead of pushing with a shield, the orb would try to grab you + slam you with its body
tbh it’s more like being mad that an R rated movie you watched had a lot of unsettling stuff in it
you still watched it lol
sure I dont mean to downplay whatever trauma you experienced but no one twisted your arm to play the quest
I doubt later quests will be blocked by it either
If you don’t like something, don’t give it your attention. Simple as that
I didn’t like Waverider as a quest so ignored it
Finished it when I got sick of seeing the new quest thing in my screen though
same 
At this point I feel like you people are intentionally misinterpreting my point
We aren’t we just stating if you don’t like something and do it anyway even after reading the warning that’s not on DE
And I'm saying people have no choice but to do it because there's no option to skip it or censor it, especially since it locks you out of the f2p path to getting a warframe as well as the entire event around the update
it’s a mature rated game
so there’s gonna be mature elements in the game
Right but there's a difference between what's on the ESRB rating and what gets added 11 years into the game
Why are you only complaining about this now but not during anything that happened in the New War?
Because I avoided this server until I finished TNW, also I never specified what I was referring to in my original statement
The content warning should be enough
It’s telling you what to expect and if you can’t handle it don’t do it
Right, we're on the same page here
You know the average playtime to make it to The New War, right? At that point the player is commited to this game if they got through the Necramech grind
Why turn an otherwise active player away because you didn't warn them until then of triggering content, only to offer no alternative whatsoever
You just think it's funny how they got spoilers for sensitive audience but there is no way to skip those moments to progress the game and unlock more features.
-or did I get that wrong?
Yes, thank you
Although less funny and more just plain stupid
You get the point.
wow the ESRB site is blocked
It is like the first thing the game shows before getting it, on Steam anyways.
This is what's offered to people prior to starting the game as a description of the mature content, from the ESRB website
Nowhere is "Trauma related to motherhood, depictions of emotional abuse or frightening situations involving teens" included
This is them telling you that with New War though
Reposting what I already said to you
That's when investing into the game is a problem, but I guess that's the players decision if they want to continue playing or not.
I mean I decided to endure all the stuff that has been a trauma to me before.
DE shouldn’t have to give an alternative for one single person complaining about what is already told will happen
^
Theres this one quote I’ve heard that basically sums this whole situation up. “Not every game is meant for everyone”.
And in this case it’s quests
It is rated M, I mean yeah doesn't say anything about "can contain traumatic scenes" but you got to take account for that yourself. Game is 17+ and if it is that big of an issue to somebody then they do need help with it personally. (Not to be rude or anything, just how it is.)
All I think they could do is just give you the option to skip cutscenes if it was that big of an issue.
You can skip cutscenes
They want to skip the entire quest
They said Can I just say I find it strange that Warframe offers Content Warnings in their quests ETC but offers no way to censor/skip these sections?
how do you get past Ordis in the new quest 😭
Stay behind him as he opens the room to the operator.
He has a set path going around the orbiter.
Ngl, anyone else really happy that there is more mature topics being covered in the storylines and excited to see what else is gonna come up?
Yeah, though some people aren’t happy about it
Yeah, I hope the devs don't let it stop them from exploring more
I'm happy about it, though some people don't possess the literary skills required to appreciate it
Content is locked behind the quest, this isn’t a remotely fair argument especially when you cant skip the cutscenes. I’m with mr/ms insaiyan here that any quest with content warnings… should let you skip the cutscenes, after being given fair warning. Not like thats crazy to ask for. You can’t just not do the quests in this game.
er, i missed something. stupid discord
must be wild to be skipping a quest with robots then going to eldritch entities tho
You can skip the cutscenes
though the triggering bits are usually either cutscenes or just walking around, so it should be fine to allow to skip those as well. Cant think of any action bits with triggers in them
He wanted to skip the whole quest
can you skip the ||birth|| bit, including the minigame? not sure those are set up as cutscenes
I’m not sure I decided to actually play the quest but I once accidentally skipped the Hunhow scene in New War
a lot of mini-scenes are not really displayed as cutscenes and I am not sure they are skippable, like when jade screams at certain bits
I see
ESRB doesnt really do updates much especially with how often warframe updates, so its not really adequate
This is the warning part of the New War
Even if ESRB doesn’t update DE give you fair warning
I can see being frustrated by the content warning and how it's implemented. If emotional abuse was really a big trigger for someone, there's no way to skip that part in TNW where Ballas is yelling at Lotus in the final fight (it's not a cutscene, or at least parts of it aren't), and TNW is absolutely required to progress through the latter stages of the game. So you don't really have a way of avoiding seeing it unless you just have like your roommate do the quest for you or something.
But I think it kinda boils down to "that's the way it is". If there's a better way to handle it while still being able to tell those stories I'd love to hear it.
I wish drifter talked more operator seems to never shut up but when it comes to drifter it's just •_•
Drifter doesn’t have the Operator voicelines at all
Sorry i ment i wish they did
is there a way to change ||teshins|| hologram to normal again
Turn on createor mode?
Nvm that isn't it I don't think you can
Go into Conclave
wdym
I want that during steelpath when he talks hes not a hologram anymore
He’s not a hologram in Conclave
Or you could go into Duviri he’s not a hologram there either
Or is he affected by creator mode?
Creator mode does hide the spoiler
I wonder how hard the third orb may be in terms of difficulty
I hope it would be really hard and that it will require you skill,dodge...
Not to boil it down to only big weapon dmg
It turns him back for sp atleast
Hard for about a week maybe
Do you think SP will exist for 1999 ?
Like, if Duviri has it, why 1999 won't have it
Probably not
Doesn't make sense tho if 1999 don't have it
Unless it's like kahl
I feel it will be like kahl
1999 doesn’t have Teshin to make Steel Path
Creator mode should do it for sp
Ngl, it would be cool to have it its own "SP" then
Like Duviri with +20 level on ennemies and scaling and the reward is much better, but it would require much more "tactics" i guess ?
Railjack doesn’t have Steel Path either
The way i see it
Either we do everything through the vessels and the gamemode ends up like kahl
Or we actually go into 1999 to manhandle albrecht/wally and we get steel path for it
Oh true, they said that it would be weird for railjack to have it ?
Literally the only places with Steel Path is a place Teshin could get to at one point in time
Teshin went into railjack 😭
And he doesn't want to SP railjack sadly
Tbh it would be weird
Yeah, in the end Railjack has way too much power to have any difficulty (black hole lover)
The way i see 1999 is that we will have difficulty, but we can deal with those difficulty rather easily ?
As always
Why didn’t we get SP Kahl?
Making more tactic approach to ennemies encounter would be a fun way to do it
IIRC DE made a lot of change on explosive,barrels and well whispers in the wall dropped the corrosive things that obliterate ennemies
Because it would still be to easy for kahl
Funny that they did that but didn't change the bomb of necramech for some reason
Kahl is Clem Prime you can’t change my mind
There the same dude genetically and visually
Kahl being able to destroy a squads of sentients, a sniper who was known to be good, a girl with a hammer...
It's wild on how Good lore wise he is
Better than that rhino in TNW
Kahl can match enemy level which I like
It could get its own equivalent maybe?
Combat simulations or some such
Would fit the aesthetic/theme too
Maybe 1999 will be more about players who would like to play some kind of dark sectory vibe type of gameplay bcz iirc this gameplay was mostly more tactical than the regular nuke frame we have
Teshins favourite sport is probably fencing
Oh my god, bringing the 1999 version of deep archemedeia
To be fair 1999 seems to be flooded with infestation so i feel like there would be either special or boosted version of mission where it will just go wild lmao
I know he's the main reason that I failed the volt sp junction he's strong but it took to long
lol
I forgot, DE want to make the game easy or try to make both out of it ?
(Normal octopede & 60 eyes for example or Netracell & Deep archi)
DE have been making Warframe easier through the years
Tbf the armor change is more about having easier time scaling contents
Bcz the EHP of a corpus & a grineer having the biggest gap was crazy tho
tysm
Don't thank me thank the Internet
Thank Science
I was reading the Warframe wiki while I was bored and I noticed that Parvos knew that the Entrati(specifically Albrecht) had “violated time”. I would assume that Albrecht kept these secrets under extremely tight wraps. So how did Parvos, who’s probably just some uber rich goober to the likes of Albrecht, figure out that the Entrati figured out time travel?
Everyone in the orokin empire played with void stuff after albrecht discovers it. Parvos has plenty of special relations with the void as it is, too. Plus whatever he may of learned about the labs from the whole dante thing and the like
Conjecture: there’s a fine line between using the Void as a means of spacial travel and using the Void as a means of time travel
Dude broke into the labs and stole spectre partiicals
I am more saying that parvos is intimate with the void and may have means of finding things out
Conjecture: Parvos’ operatives were probably only looking for the specter particle research. Unless Parvos told them to steal everything that wasn’t nailed down, why would Parvos even know about the Entrati playing Dr. Who? Even with the possibility of Parvos’ operatives stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down or protected by Necra-tech, I assume that it would be a James Bond-esque task of getting one’s hands on research that so thoroughly breaks conventional science
Because he's a smart man
Also he's stolen from the entrati before
That much I figured out, but how did he steal from the Entrati? I imagine that Specter Particle research was effectively a cover story for the real timey wimey chicanery happening deep within Albrecht’s labs on Deimos
Heck, give it a few decades to perfect the science, and I imagine that the Entrati would’ve given the Specter Particle research to the Orokin and they would’ve given it to a strategic partner who the Orokin knew wouldn’t try and do anything stupid with it
Legally. he stole from them legally, by any legal loophole he could. The entratis were asleep on deimos. guess they default on thier court dates then huh?
Oh and he set up the courtrooms in the first place so...
What if : 1999 is a hard gamemode
Good joke
even if it is, we'll eventually find a way to just break the game
Zariman? Albrecht's labs?
Paaaaaiiiin
BMWs are sentient
Just crownamedcaw being himself
huh?
Whats even going on
Outside drama that shouldn't be here. <@&778745217037238293>
I guess there will be a big rooster of Warframe for 1999
Meaning they will have people who will ship Warframe between them
Imagine volt x Excalibur for example lmao, good stuff
Interesting theory…
no.. not shipping wars…
now that you talk about it we've never seen a war with warship in warframe
This is ninjas in space not ninjas in water
people already do this
quite a lot actually
people will ship anything and anyone
i ship rubedo with ferrite
It’s begun
https://www.warframe.com/news/suspicious-correspondence-flagged-for-review Direct link to the warframe page for those who want to pilfer.
Never thought I would ever see “lmao” on the Warframe page
Sockit: Imagine not knowing about Dr Entrati are you stupid?
How does time travel work again if they took a pic of it in the past of us being there?
Also if anyone asks; I checked the Sanctum computer and nothings changed so far
The PC is late
Someone on the comment section of that post found this
That’s such a missed opportunity to say for Voids sake
Oooo ain't this a great present to wake up to
DE loves giving food scraps
Someone ping me with the next discovery
You seen the above chat?
Scroll up
There’s a vid
A short one
A short vid is still a vid
Grays probably translating all the text as we speak
Gray has probably just woke up
Why does DE keep making Abrecht scary
This is the story of how Albrecht Entrati became the true final nemesis
or “XD”
im guessing this is another arg?
Looks like it!
Or like the Zariman one
I loved doing the zariman one
if you don't know he is someone being accused of a lot of bad things but he spam reports the people who do even the littlest thing to him and he keeps on trolling the people that he spam reports for no reason: TLDR bad person who spam reports people in warframe and on most platforms
i think 1999 will be hard Solo like Duviri is hard on Solo SP against kullervo (don't try kullervo no decree...)
is it saying sheesh ?
Ehhh I hear more of a “arGdhdh?!!?”
Adhd 😍
Hey uhhh... Albrecht's heart is void colored there.
Is the Heart of Deimos going to have a second meaning here
t'would be wild if it's linked to the heart of deimos somehow lmao
Someone on twitter said the letters on Albrechts poster translate to “Believe”
I believe in Harvey Dent Albrecht Entrati
Idk if it’s true, but if that’s the case then it looks like he was trying to get as many people as he could to try out this “cure” of his
It already is linked to heart of Demios based on who created the heart
Man has his own propaganda
So it's really about a plague
Which we don't know if it's the infestation or something else
Yea likely not infestation
It's mentioned in the Albrecht logs that he was doing exactly that
Checks out then
I think it is the infestation actually. Even in Dark Sector the technocyte took a while to spin up properly.
I don't think it's the current infestation, but it's the infestation before it work on human
Meaning that it could damage human's (like spores) but not transform them very fast into monsters maybe ?
It would make sense, we have only seen the infestation working like tendrils attaching themselves to object
Actually yea it could be an early form of the Infestation
Yeah exactly, just like with real diseases it can spread non-lethally before turning lethal
We know the infestation works based off spores too
TLOU x Warframe
I think the infestation is at its weaker stage, more primal
But it would also make sense that then it would be then... A human made warfare weapon
Which now led to : which country is trying to get rid of another country 💀 ?
Or maybe it's the other way around. Diseases don't want to be lethal because they don't want to kill the host
A single infested spore can infect a whole ship, so anyone who was near it has to do extra full body cleanings
Maybe the infestation was more lethal early on, and only changed into it's current, flesh melting form later
Maybe it's their first spore 😔 so the mostly curable one
Dark Sector reveals the technocyte virus to be a bioweapon created by the US government
Can def see them using that here, though maybe not any government specifically
?
Wdym
The infestation in the origin system uses spores already
Also is it safe to assume that there’s a war going on? Or is 1999 going to have like a government quarantined zone where there’s people who aren’t affected by the plague and are defending it from people who are affected
What i meant is : First spore of infestation > The infestation may not be "smart" enough to evolve > only damage organs in a slow process instead of directly transforming them from molecular level
(Coughing from Arthur who is i guess "cured")
So you’re saying it started as spores and kinda went from there
Which yeah probably
Notably all the infested we see in 1999 have those screens which uh. Are not biological at all lol
To be fair : it could go wild but it's really on a theory level.
It would make sense that against infestation so likely where there is plague you would bring people who are either skilled hazmat army or... "Cured" one where they develop an immunity to it (Arhur/aoi for example)
So you bring the "cured" as your cleaner ? Idk it would be how i see it and would make sense ?
Not sure if we’ve seen it afflict humans in 1999 other than knowing it has
The technocyte's always copied tech stuff though, it's going with the analogue/CRT look because that's where 1999 tech is
Only Arthur was heard coughing but we don't know if the Illness come from the infestation or man has a cold
It's almost certainly his technocyte infestation, the helminth strain is still ruinous to the human body
i have some poster translations for yall
Ooooo
It doesn’t just copy things willy nilly, unless this form is just that early in development
The screens have a purpose
Or if its cause the helminth strain is taking him over lol
Some “cure” Albrecht
Yeah exactly.
Meddling with the human body proven to be disastreous once more !!!
Albrecht does a little trolling
Orokin trying not to mess things up further challenge (impossible)
so far i have:
||- "He is coming" [x5 graffiti tags]
- "Believe" [Al poster]
- "DNT Day of Piracy" [DNT probably meaning Do Not Track in computing and http]
- "ZRBHZ" [gibberish boombox lookin poster]
- "See your neighbour steal [??]" [text too small to make out the rest]
- "Doctor [hard to read]"
- "More fingers. More power. [??] you."||
He's not getting eaten by the hive mind, but it's still infestation exposure
Maybe "Doctor Friday"? That came up in the BBS posting
And ahahaha no, no more fingers yikes
So that poster in the middle did say believe. Good to know
I’m wondering if the technocyte virus originates as a computer virus, hence the CRTs
Y2K happened but instead of the computers breaking they turned into horrific monsters that infest you too
i also did a lil bit of snooping on the Entrati.kin file:
||*.kin files are not something i am familiar with but after looking through some very loosely cobbled file extension collections... *.kin files were orignially developed for use in biochemical engineering laboratories at the University of Massachusetts. it was a plaintext way to encode complex 3D protein scans and label information in veRY SMALL files sizes, and made the script readable by any native operating system word processor (without downloading or installing specific programs). it may have appeared as jargon with lots of data point coordinates in order to plot out the 3D model render in digital space, but it wasn't like trying to open a blender file with notepad and getting nothing but zalgo text. It was developed in 1995 by David Richardson (biology department).||
||idk if DE is implying that the U of Mass was involved in the accidentally biomecha plague or||
||isn't Massachusetts like. Lovecraft-setting?|| (wheeze emoji)
||i mean, we already been knew warframe was eldritch||
Interesting
Yeahh i think it's more about this : one thing that i wanted to try is trying to find what kind of animals would use electric sensing
Sharks with Ampullae of Lorenzini but they're in the water... Which is conductor
Concrete is not.
So likely they could come from, computers ? Which would make it... Weird... is it a reference to analog horror and the fleshy things ?
Maybe, the design is honestly really cool so I hope they explain it a bit
The Lovecraft university is traditionally Miskatonic University, which is fictional
that, I am aware of, but the setting was meant to have been Essex County, Massachusetts
Like why do they have CRTs?
Other than cool
Is it to see?
Is it cause. Power??
Or do they originate as a virus that can be sent that alters the pc somehow?
yeah it's going wild ... What the hell infestation 😭
RE reference !!!
I wonder if the infestation’s files are .kin 
oh my god !
Oro kin 
😶 wait they cooked
they're cooking so much wtf
i love my funny ninja game 
I’m betting the Infestation has infested(no pun intended) the tech in 1999, since it’s a hive mind and everything
"How will DE Top whispers in the walls"
Having the weirdest lore point in the game bcz wtf is going on
Kinda like how Sentients literally negated all the weaponry Orokin threw at them before making Warframes
Well yeah, that much is obvious
But why take CRTs is my point, potentially camouflage maybe but why? Do they need to rely on that?
may explain why orokin rarely used A.I 😭
Perintol was a fool indeed
Curse you, Lephantis
They hate CRTS and want to spread a message? Idk
Yeah idk
I’m trying to think of a logical reason the infested of 1999 would have CRTs attached to them
Camouflage or computers/screens somehow being vital to them seem like the most likely to me
don't you love having a television in your chest ?
Could be related to whatever that ominous eye symbol is that’s been in every 1999 post
that's... Actually a good idea
Could be, though that seems to be connected to Albrecht’s whatever maybe?
Or a 1999 company maybe?
Albrecht would make the most sense
I mean. If an evil company wanted to unleash their bioweapon on the masses what better way than a brand new affordable computer that UH OH has the worst kind of Virus inside of it
Ohh wait no I got it; the Tvs were given a virus and BOOM turned into Infested
It would be weird if the infestation is actually trying to connect itself to...The "present"
Like, idk imagine if it try to connect with fass & vome and those two discover that there is a whole world that can be taken rather easily
That’s what I said-
Looks like this eye is part of the Entrati family crest. We saw it in the labs on the floor
So the eye is def connected to Albrecht
Where is it in the labs?
Typing is not my specialty today huh
The entrati would love jade if they love eyes so much
Real
Also, the mini trailer we got we hear people talking over some kind of radio or tower
Maybe there's still more human activity than we think and it's not that "dead"
But there's still... Nothing about kallymos ? That's unexpected lmao
An underground holdout 
Not even her voice please, i feel like she will be the biggest surprise
well there's also the guy who voiced leon
Ohh you mean that eye. Then yea ig Albrecht is really on an undercover mission
The chosen operator need clue to what is going on and his plan, it seems we'rew still in the dark but it may be clearer now
Well, we know the vessels somehow relate to fighting Wally
Everything he does is likely to fight Wally
Including having a child?
He had his kid before he encountered the man in the wall. "Mother" as she's called, was only a child at the time.
I think they’re talking about Jade and Stalker lol
They mentioned vessels. Aren't those the giant people in the entrati labs?
Exactly lol
Yes, those vessels are directly connected to the 1999 protoframes
Anyways, if Albrecht was so paranoid that he refused transference in case he wasn't himself, I'm sure intimacy with his wife was out of the question.
No more kids
Continuity, not transference
Sorry. At work. A little distracted
Also his wife/mother to mother was likely gone already, but we dont really know
Euleria's mother was also already out of the picture by then
Speak of which. Gtg. I'll be back in an hour!
Our Operator better interview Albrecht with questions or else I’m gonna get mad smh
He mentions he raised euleria by himself
Right, ty 
Well intimacy with his wife was definitely out of the question then...
Imagine we can only pick a few questions so the community has to come together for the full interview 
I’m fighting my way to next years Tennocon if that happens
I'm exploring the flagged page on my computer, is there any secrets I can look out for? Any secrets that have customization in game :0?
Maybe 1999 will have it's version of the stalker
I've been joking about that for a bit
What would Stalker99 be mad at the protoframes about?
Flagged page?
Mocaries, imitations of the inexcusable Tenno.
But there’s no tenno in 1999
Drifter in 1999 would be cool
My prediction for 1999 stalker is that he goes back farther than us and the one we meet is Sirius/Orion
How would he go back? Why?
All he has to do is use the same method we do to travel through time (assuming it isn't using transference on the vessels)
A safe era to raise his child
We have no other way to 1999 than transference via vessels
Loid destroyed the only way there
But how will we bring our warframes then?!
Also the plague year is not a safe era to raise his kid lol
Relatively safe
Who’s saying we’re bringing our warframes?
We have frames there 
And I said I thought he'd go back to before that
How would he go back when the only way to 1999 is destroyed?
Were at least br8nging the operator/drifter since supposedly we'll have dialogue letting us interact with these proto frames
We could have dialogue via transference
One sec. Moving location
Arthur says it’s like someone’s in his head during whispers
We could have a conversation no problem, maybe the tenno/drifter could come through but that’s likely unwise as there would be no way back home to the Origin System as far as we know
Unless they just use transference both ways, transference travel 
But that’d still just be the tenno/drifter
That would suck the fun out of any romance dialogue, like some people were theorizing
Honestly, 1999 might make a good cannon home for the drifter while the operator stays in the origin system
Drifter just ditches Operator to vibe in 1999 and fight. Whatever is happening there
I think they could use thier established link to communicate through the void/time
Would give us a reason for handling things in both times "at the same time"
True, could be advantageous against Wally too
Depending on what’s going on with that
If Drifter does leave for 1999 the only issue is getting to Duviri since that’s Drifter only
And depending on how much you've grinded, you might find him fighting somewhere near the same level the protoframes can
Drifter gets helminthed 
Why?
What states that can’t happen?
We’ll find a way ourselves
The Warframes are void powered
Like yes the Operator/Drifter are unique void entities but they’re still human
I’d love to see how considering the only way was destroyed
Theory; we have Loid and Fibonacci who can help build a way back. Loid probably helped Albrecht get to 1999, so he could probably come up with something
We basically have the two smartest people in the Origin System on our side lol
Eh, maybe
Finishing the vessels seems like the priority right now
It’s not that that’s impossible but it’ll likely depend on what Albrecht has to say
I don’t think he’ll interfere since he’s either possessed/hexed
That’s because 1999 ended
We were late
We just need to go to an earlier point, when we wouldn’t be late, and then he’d just be Albrecht as usual
“The solution, naturally, is to arrive on time, next time”
Gotta say, I love the Kaelli/Karl dialogue
Blue girl! What is this IRS that keeps mailing me?
No, it just became a new IRS called Corpus
I have decided to replay new war because tennocon is 8 days away
Blue girl! Kahl does not care who the IRS sends, Kahl is not paying these taxes
I'll have to send the Void Revenue Services then
The plague and the helminth being quoted as different thing make me think that the helminth is the same as we have, that can make Warframe
But the plague is currently oldest form of infestation where it is said to be a plague as it slowly kill
I feel this will be like that ?
maybe?
Also Albretch mentioned about "losing humanity"
Humanity being the theme of current tennocon... Maybe we will meet other Warframe that will be against us ? As they've lost their humanity
maybe
speaking of i need to buy the tennocon pack for this year
was that $20 or $25?
for the tennocon pack
Watch it just be the bubonic plague that existed irl lol
$25
BUBONICO REFERENCE 
But isn't the plague was because of Hygiene issue ?
i think... if i know my history
Aw man here we go again also he showed up as I was doing so
It's wild that they've done those big cinematic loading screen but we don't have a choice to keep it
It was caused by a bacteria which circulated through populations of fleas and rats, iirc
Yeaah iirc there's that, i thought this was the black plague
The infestation is still such a weird thing in 1999 , i'm still thinking that it's some kind of warfare that literally break the geneva convention + almost make warcrime i guess ? (geneva convention is from 1929 iirc)
I'm more surprised wally knew what I was doing
Veko is a very cool character indeed
Vedo is really cool yeah
Veto
No no no vepo
I miss venmo 😢
Sedo
Tenko
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2nd comment perfectly reflects Warframe
It's a fast-paced action game and all
But the lore is grimdark af
It's BEYOND messed up
The slow build-up from making you think they're sci-fi power armor when you start playing, to then making you think they're some sort of Evangelion-like armored flesh golem when you see them move without your operator in Second Dream, to The Sacrifice then adding this to the long shopping list of awful things the Orokin did is all a great Soylent Green-style reveal that doesn't get talked about enough.
Now I'm enjoying new war because I know what to do I'm moving faster through
anyone checked or has a clue about the "Suspicious Correspondence Flagged for Review" or "entrati.kin"?
it also has % on it, currently at 15%
is it progressing? or it has been on 15% ever ?
It’s been on 15% since they posted it on twitter
i see
How in God's name does our warframe get back to our orbiter.......ah transference
Huh? We just take the landing craft back wdym
The extraction is us using the landing craft.
We do it most missions.
They are always there just in storage lmao.
Like the ship is literally in like deep sleep mode.
There a whole sequence where you turn everything back on.
No like the one you bring with you during the first part of new war
Oh the warframe is there the whole time what?
I'm confused by what you mean.
I think they mean the frame that’s left behind when we fall into the void portal
Either trashed and found by Ordis or fell in with us and we just don’t see it
Either way they’re fine
Probably.
Yes
Probably slipped into the void of screen
Actually where's all my stuff my dog definitely can't be in storage wait Stasis is that a thing in warframe?
Anyways new war break to keep me from going crazy
Okay this was changed ciz it was really annoying and pet like durability/affection was a terrible mechanic but yes there is pet stasis people used to actually have to put pets it stasis so they didn't degrade.
They changed how that worked cuz it sucked. It used to be fixed by the nutrino upgrade to the incubator.
Ok im mostly gonna ask details I didn't think about through my first time in nw
Also you used to have to take out Pets and put them it in it was real bad.
Sure.
I still have the inbox messages telling my my kubrow had died
Why did you not look after your pet Gray you were meant to be the smartest of us
Forgot to log in for a couple weeks 😦
See that is even weirder cus that was changed like immediately but the terrible degradation stayed around till 2020. Unless you had that one upgrade segment.
Wait does the nutrinon segment do now?
It wasn't changed "immediately"; it was around for a while. But it did get changed first, yeah.
Faster incubation times and also you can revert your pets age for some reason
Yee I had to check. You can revert the pets age to have a CUTTIE PATTUDY around the ship. Also if you regress of a vupla they become the tiny fly thing.
The predasites just become small predasites.
I just remembered it first stopped degradation and then it made stasis take in and out instant or something and now it does this. Oh nutrino segment how you've changed.
I hope that after the 1999 arc finishes we will at least get a single sentient quest since we still don't even have an actual permanent pure sentient node yet
I thought we would get sentient + narmer ones on the murexes after new war but the murexes spontaneously combust after you finish the quest
them still being on the map gives some copium though
TNW was the ending of the Sentient arc Railjack has a Sentient node and Narmer drone is setting up later Narmer content on Venus
Murex nodes arent sentient, it's grineer + sentient
Sentient+Grineer is still Sentient
also like
they are only in one of the objectives and dont use their fighters at all
😭
It's also funny that we don't have fully sentients's map (with indicator of the faction)
Which make me think that we shouldn't meddle with those, bcz if they could do the new war, you don't attack them at all, it's literally impossible to win (note that they surely have a fully built starchart on Tau lmao)
We have no reason to go to Tau
Yep, and we wouldn't win anyway
I dunno we was made to beat the Sentients
i mean, even entire planets terraformed by sentients ? Likely the tenno would have a lot of trouble against them
So? We still defeated them
I mean the Sentients in the origin system have an hard time replenishing numbers since their only source of new troops are Murexes
Ngl, if they go about killing more sentient, the narrative would just be wild like : "Go do what you were made for" 💀
and if an Murex is killed they have no way to replace it
I mean I guess they could maybe build their goo pools in Narmer controlled ships but we havent seen them do it
but a system where Sentients have enough numbers to compete with factions like the Grineer would be insanely hard to even get a foothold in
Now that you say that, i'm thinking that, there's no way Sentients doesn't try to go out of tau, like they go to see what expansion they could do aside from Tau and be "angels" for them
Erra being portrayed as a reference to the bible with the "Do not be afraid" could make some weird lore thingies
But It was only Erra who was being seen like that, Natah and hunhow i doubt they were like that ? They didn't look much like biblical angels too
which is probably why Tau will be spilt in several factions that will probably not be 100 percent friendly with each other
Lmao it would be wild if it's also a reference to warhammer 40k and they have for some reason a moon with a railgun 😭
and also since fighting the same factions for like 100 levels would probably be uhh not too interesting
They would probably have a giant death laser moon instead lol
I don't think any sentient uses physical projectiles so they probably wouldnt use railguns
they use their laser cutter hand i guess ?
And for some reason eidolon have the same but a disco ball
Yeah but they still use a laser at the end of the day
btw do we know what is the goo ?
Not sure if it's mentioned anywhere, it looks like nanites or something to me
Also now that I think about it Pazuul has his work cut out for him
His elite troops are in limited supply, he probably can't really engage in any diplomacy given that Narmer tried to eat the sun that one time and if he ever actually starts winning the system will just enter into an coalition again
Can’t engage in diplomacy anyway
Narmer are the “take control of people with golden headsets” faction that took over the system, the people that want to work with them already are
Fair point
Do you think 1999 will have the playable character shout their skills when you use them
Imagine hearing Arthur shouting slash dash
Anime style protagonist shouting their skill and do no damage
If Arthur doesn't say "Domain expansion" when he is about to die I am refunding Warframe /s
We know what the skill is so he won’t
Nah but like anime style , just a guy shouting their skills 😭
It’s not a stealth attack if you shout stealth attack
Fortuna time T○T
Oh damn only on my second try
Oh thank the lord no more stealth I might complete nw in no time
did anyone else get natah ( or lotus ) interaction when they did the jupiter boss after doing the prelude?
Yep
ouu yiippee, im not understanding what she talked abt, was she js talking abt her lore?
Yea it was lore mostly about her family
oh okay, does it explain in new war y erra calls lotus natah?
Uhhh pretty sure that was already explained. Erra is Natahs brother
Natah turned into the Lotus after Ballas messed with her programming. The reason he did that was because he wanted Natah to act like Margulis, who was his lover until she died
OHHHHHHHH
Yeaaa lol
Agreed. Everyone hates Ballas
Will beginning the Duviri Paradox quest lock me out of the normal game for a long time?
I need to do that quest since I missed it's launch and I need to know since at this point I'm doing my normal stuff and helping my friends with missions they consider hard and to farm stuff
Hearing Ben Starr say Domain Expansion would make my year ngl
Wow um nearing the end of new war again
Have fun
And.........done still one of if not my favourite quests
Very late but you can leave at any time yes
I'd say it's about an hour and a half worth of quest
Plus worthwhile if you can finish it but at least you can leave anytime
It's not a Commit-type quest
Sol's sake
Whuh 
How do i get focus for my operator?
You put Lenses on weapons and earn mastery on them
wait a second?
protector stalker has mastery points?
every codex entry when completed shows the mastered icon. they dont have mastery tho
What Rodney said or kill Thrax.
There’s a 3rd way too
Sometimes there’ll be these yellow pickups that let you earn focus by killing enemies in like a minute?
45 seconds
Afaik you need at least one focus lens on something in your active loadout for those to spawn?
And eidolons but those suck don't play those.
You need to play those to get waybounds
To be FAIR now you can just pub Bounty tris. And you'll have not a terrible time.
Yeah most squads are competent
I couldn't say that before the focus change during Zariman. Cuz before that they where super toxic and no one wanted to do them.
Now its less toxic cuz the things you get from it are now other places.
Also that Bounty was added pretty recently overall.
Do you think if infested liches exist they will be like the other and having a quest + rising tide quest requirement or it will be completely different
Also de said that infested planetoid are confirmed ?
Intercepted from unregistered PC at: [DATA CORR̵͊̔U̴͝͠P̸̦̒T̴̑̓Ĕ̸̢D̷̈͠]
Priority Level: 23%
[Session started on #̴̊̆≠͉̑~̵̨̄/1999 at 03:28:07][ r--r--r-- ] [ restricted ]
Letterbomb
holy crap guys did you just hear that
it was like an atcual ROAR, but like weird
i dunno
weird
Deadboy
D‑:
Odyssey
How should we know? It’s not like we know where you live.
Letterbomb
i think it came from under the street like in the sewer or something
you must have herd it
SockIt
Just logging on now. I heard it, too, folks.
Mothership
Oh, Lua… Something is seriously wrong around here.
Letterbomb
it was so loud
im gonna go check it out ill try to tkae a picture
Odyssey
Dude what? Are you crazy?
Mothership
That's a terrible idea!
SockIt
You still there, LB?
Odyssey
This isn't funny! 😠
Mothership
Hello?
Letterbomb
[This message has been deleted on the authority of SCALDRA according to Section 21.c of the Emergency Powers Information Access Act. Thank you for your cooperation.]
Odyssey
What in Sol's name is that?
[Session ended on *̵̾̒&̵̈͌&̷̜͛]̶̂͝/1999 at 05:42:59]
It's strange but what is SCALDRA ?
Also somehow the infestaiton come from the sewer lol
abandoned usamerican biological weapon or something ig
The theme of humanity is so large... it sound it will be crazy
Rip LB
LB actually took photo of the infestation but SCALDRA Literally said no
Or he was telling his friends about the Infestation but the government said no
Yeah i feel like SCALDRA is a powerful government thingies
But why keeping literal bioweapon that could destroy humanity in secret wtf
I guess it's to avoid mass panick ?
Yea maybe that was happening when the outbreak occured
that doesn't explain if the plague is infestation or not ngl
It explain that somehow it erupted from the sewer... So from the underground ?
Was it said if Albretch come from the underground ?
No the plague was in 1999 before Albrecht brought the Infestation
I mean keeping biological weapons in secret is usually how governments work
silly government
Then how do we know about them? Silly
We know, citizen doesn't iirc
And it's likely the pov of citizen talking through facebook or smthg like that
I meant in real life
text of the poster is :
New
Big Baye's Pizza
Tasty
N-oo-H
B-ih-G B-aye-S P-ee-T-S-uh-H
T-ae-H-S-T-ee-H
I mean the tweet itself cornfirms for us its not big bayes but big bytes
AH yeah they missed the T then ? Or is the pronounciation evading it ?
I'm not a native english speaker, pronunciations sometimes make letters disappear and all (and it doesn't help XD)
I guess gameplay wise it'sa safe zone where We could heal
finally got on the pc to look
the T is there
I’m calling it. Big Bytes Pizza store is the new hub
Isn't Bombastine meant to be in 1999 from the "meet the cast" page a while back?
Which meet the cast?
I swear they put one out recently
Jade Shadows was the most recent one
No nvm it's the Tennocon Meet The Cast where Bombastine's VA is at alongside Nick/Ben/Alpha/Gianni
That makes more sense
I did think it was odd especially since Nick's role won't have been announced yet?
So luas been colonized before 1999
This puts the "proto orokin" far far ahead of today us in terms of tech
Unless Lua means something else in 1999
That would be incredibly weird
I see no reason for the already pre established name for the moon to mean for instance some city in the east side of north Dakota
Lua is already the real life name for our moon, they probably just wanna avoid that IRL someone would say "Oh God" cause bringing real religion in has some weird and bad connotations
doesnt need to be colonized for people to reference it
For example - we have a moon and can talk about it despite moving there IRL
yet they still didn't defeat the "plague"
Also : what kind of dummy hear a roar and think "oh i should go take a photo of it"
Is he dumb?
like what kind of dummy are we facing in 1999
Man could hear screech of void being and would say : yeahh that's just the wind
23% and we're missing if the plague is infestation or something else (likely something else, even tho it would make sense that the plague is spore from infested killing people)
To attempt to investigate the moon the person either needs a very very large telescope or to live on the moon
are we talking about the same line ?
this does not imply they are on lua imo
Oh it's "Something is seriously wrong"
Not : "Something is wrong"
Which means... This isn't the only occurence of weird roar ? or something like that coming from the sewer,city
Like there could be more that they somehow discovered but were shut down by Scadra
unless i think too much about it but this seems to imply that there was much more that happened
The thing that could happends is, given that it's 1999 , sewer wouldn't be as good as today and there would be likely a lot of smell that would be going up, to the city meaning that maybe there was a lot of weird smell like rotten corpse,etc... ? (so likely complaint from people,etc...)
So... Red Text is canon in 1999?
Might not be the same red text.
I wonder if 1999 will give us more info about Wally and what he wants
Maybe.
It should based on Whispers ending
Most likely what was teased in ending of Whispers will unfold later, not in 1999. Given the hint about Lotus
what hint about lotus ?
Wally was ripping a lotus flower
At the very least we will learn more about his connection to Albrecht
yeah this is the void arc so at the very least tangentially wally will be involved
You can even see him in the part we got access to
yeah
oh well, will just assume they didn't read what you were talking about before replying
lol
Bounties in open worlds
which bounties?
Just check the rewards for a bounty and you’ll see if they drop lenses. It doesn’t matter the type of bounty
okay, do you know what open worlds tho? like fields of eidolon or the one on deimos/
All of them pretty sure
@edgy wasp
Here’s the reward pool for all the bounties rn
ahh ty
Np
where are you seeing this?
nvm there's a new file
@bronze glen exhibit A:
1999 is tied with helminth, doesn't that mean that we will have more helminth's voiceline/upgrade ? I mean, it could be wild to see more expansion of the helminth system through 1999 (which kinda make sense given that you can upgrade a Warframe through it)
tbf DE always find a way to make the gameplay of other content (Well, duviri,kahl,etc...) tied with normal warframe so i kindaaa wonder if it is going to be infested liches system 👀
We already got a Helminth Expansion twice with no new voicelines
what if 😔
More helminth expansion lmao, it would be cool to see that ngl at least it will make us go to 1999 for some time
The only thing helminth related is the same as in Origin System so there’s nothing to expand
I guess, it's just that given that albretch used the helminth for the proto warframe i guess there could be something out of it.
But i really feel like they will squeeze the content and make a lot for 1999 + will have infested liches instead of helminth expansion
How long were Narmer in control? It feels like there was meant to be a time skip in The New War, long enough for the player to think the the Operator aged into the Drifter
Buttt zamn, i would love to see more helminth expansion to make us have more weird mechanics through it, i mean making our warframe more powerful with conditionals would be cool
Long enough for Drifter to make a name for himself
I see people say about 4 months but I have no idea where that came from, or like
How Drifter actually wound up accessing the Orbiter/Liset
Another thing I was confused about was how, during the part where the Drifter sneaks into the facility to steal a Corpus ship, they see visions of Lotus talking about things that happened after the Void Jump, even though the Drifter shouldn’t have that personal connection with her because they weren’t saved, instead stuck in Duviri
I believe Steve commented on that one saying it was initially an oversight in writing but stuck with it, because it's moreso for the Player
But then you can say like Eternalism Blah Blah There's A Reason or whatever
Yeah, that checks out, in hindsight they could’ve done the Operator’s father, telling them how he went crazy or something like that, which is a shared experience for the both of them, and then Ballas swoops in and goes “ah but then I am a much better father”
My headcannon is that the veil could not tell the diff between drifter and op, and so fed ops lines to drifter
They got the hand which even spoke to Drifter with her voice and Drifter saved Lotus so there’s sort of a connection
Considering everyone else in universe thought Drifter was Operator anyway, makes sense
Also yeah there's for sure some kind of extra connection beyond just the Hand with lotus/drifter since her entire body is there in the orbiter
Yeah it seemed DE definitely wrote the quest so that, up until the Zariman reveal scene, you’re meant to think Drifter is Operator
For sure
I know I did, I assumed my Operator naturally aged into their late 20s after being cut off from their Void powers
Rather than being Eternally 15 thanks to it
1015
Fire Emblem logic
The oldest 15 year old
IIRC steve/rebb said that since it was pre-duviri the quest they didn't want to make weird things around it so they made it really much simpler by adding lotus vision
We had this conversation the other day, ended with the conclusion the most physical part of the lotus was the right hand with the rest of her body being very much ghostly and attempting to regrow from the hand
Sentient when you want to kill them but they regrew from only a hand
Sentients love plot armour
Love *are
her entire body is not there.
see above.
Think you missed the right ping @rain otter
Sentients are literally so OP man
I feel like the other body parts of lotus, wherever they are, should realistically be on autopilot looking for the rest of her like the Teralyst
Realistically they are (except for the hand of duviri) as many sentients do that
I mean the rest if her probably died. I could see Wally using that part of her for a boss fight though.
Always trust DE to make something more traumatic, and fighting a wally-possessed puppet of the Lotus isn't beyond them
Yeah I can imagine that Wally might make us Fight a few like "horrors from the past".
The final part of wally making us fight "horrors of the past" would be the janus key, no vor just the key
About when did DE say that 1999 was gonna drop? I distinctly remember hearing 2024
They didnt
I thought we knew 2024.
Ok found the trailer from last years tennocon, it did say coming next year
Yes
This Ryoma?
ohhh so in 2000 okay
Maybe it was a proto Rhino
Imo its probably a picture of one of the 1999 infested
It would be wild if 1999 is GTA but with infested
Lmao
I got a Domestik drone and didn't consider the implications of putting it in my camp Orbiter
MO from WALL-E embarking on yet another adventure
...what
Dude got drunk as hell
Is that the corpus dude or Chipper
That’s the Ostron lol
Ostron with the soup.
comfy
Wrong chat but is 175 power enough???
its 460%
Im slightly confused, I see a total of 260% where did the extra 200% come from?
45 madurai 155 passive
155 passive?
iguess just been merging 40 and 50 into 45 for some times in my head
can get another 50% as well anyway if parazon but more specificaly for roar snap shot
HOW WAS IT @shut hemlock
bro
kahl 175
it was so beautiful i was crying at the end
😭😭
he was badass
then everything kind js started flowing & i was js in awe cuz of how gorgeous everything was
no i was crying at the end
im literally emotional i will cry at a storyline videogame if the scenes r so gorgeous or if its sad
this game doesn't bring out really many emotions in me but i wish it did
same w movies
I love this game and o wish i was more emotionally attached to characters and the world
movies and music get me sobbing. i rarely cry at games
then we see his pov & to him its his wife
thats where the tears started
im actually so glad i did a water refill like halfway thru the quest cuz after i was done crying i chugged most my water 😭
was he actually her husband? i thought he was just super romantically interested in her but they never were a thing
google time
oh, i assumed it was his wife tbh
woops
seeing ordis as ordis made me like
gasp cuz
hes soooo adorable
& i love seeing his eyes change when he does his personality switch
you can get him as a sentinel skin and he's in luranda relay rn
let me fix the spelling one sec
hes so adorable
hearing hunhow & erra go back & forth during the shards gathering gave me ptsd from the deimos quest
you should play whispers in the walls before the 20th so you can watch tennocon spoiler free
i like got so pissed at lotus too when i gave lotus the first shard & shes like..MORE
like stfu i couldve let u die but here i am
eidolon moment
im planning to do that one, veilbreaker, & zarimans quest
i thought that was bad till i gave her the 2nd one & watched her dislocate her jaw to eat the shard like a damn zombie
like damn shordy
did you choose operator or drifter?
i chose operator
also what name did you choose for lotus
i js picked lotus
same
like i miss my lotus not being glitchy😭😭
need my shordy back
new war is as beautiful as the second dream tbh
whispers in the walls will blow you away
im gonna do it somewhere this week
im excited then
i wanna do the quests that give secret nodes after then
that's whispers in the walls
https://youtu.be/Es8uOniZzZI?si=hrQLyW4AHBLC7Pxo either watch this or go to each wall from left to right by necraloid before you play the quest tho
The memoirs of Albrech Entrati regarding his first successful journey in crossing over into the Void. Rewarded for reaching max rank with both Heart of Deimos syndicates, the Entrati and the Necraloid.
huh
Oh here
ya
You can get him as a sentinel skin???
ye
I'd love if the Ordis sentinel skin had voice lines
Dude imagine literally posting a video once in a blue moon and it's literally just recording a few voice lines and NOT adding subtitles
Proto-Volt reveal.
Welp looks like even with the latin alphabets, they write phonetically (looks like on-lyne instead of online)
Yeah might just be a band name, but it would still be funny
"Let's ride the devil down"
Arthur i'm the devil now
aruthur is the one that says that.
Proto volt finally I'm not missing a bit of tennno live
His name is probably quincy isn't it I forgor or maybe that's a different character
actually, it's the first time we're going to hear full rock style in warframe
This game now is missing trance music
yeah we talked about it in lore chat.
OH MY GOD HE HAS A WATCH ? PROTO VOLT HAS A WATCH
About TIME
what did albretch do to give him a watch or did guy was too fast and stole it
Nah he just needs the time
DE watched the Flash movie confirmed?
It's hero space ninja biomechanical person time
Post 1999 they should let us customize like roblox our warframe/op/drifter/companions
What?
What is the name of the next warframe? Or not the next one, but a warframe from 1999, something like that was said in one of the teasers or devstreams, but I don’t remember
1999 is gonna be in December we will get a warframe before that. Also we don't have any idea about the warframe we might get I 1999 or their name.
We also dont know what the next update is gonna be.
Hell the duviri related frame didnt even come with duviri
No guarantee that a theoretical 1999 frame comes with update launch
Maybe echoes of 1999
This means that someone leaked the name, because I definitely remember this information. It is likely that in the same leak where the dialogues with protoframes was
Yeah we won't talk about leaks. For a few reasons.
- You're just not supposed to.
2.that stuff can change before release especially this far out.
Imagine Albrecht made Proto Volt so he had a frame that could go so fast that we aren't late anymore
Quincy as a name wasn't leaked, DE made a minigame with Quincy on the message
Got tired of waiting
According to albrecht methods if you want your friends to be punctual you just give them supercars or helicopters
I think Devaren means a warframe we would farm.
in 1999.
Where was this? I don't see it on twitter
it is on twitter and on their youtube. @tawdry socket
You aren't the only one searching for Albrecht Entrati, Tenno.
Journey into the past to explore Warframe's future during TennoLive 2024! Our sprawling, cinematic narrative continues this winter with a revolutionary new chapter set in the year 1999, and you're invited to experience it with us on July 20.
Last year's TennoLive Demo barely scratc...
It wasnt just a Proto Volt reveal
So you might’ve glossed over
Ahaaa I see, thank you
So is that Nick Aposomething as Proto-volt?
also LOVE this soundtrack we're putting together so far
Who was the guy who makes most of the music can't remember his name
Keith Power
Thanks
Keith is an amazing composer
yeah
I'm actually wondering if we're gonna see any other proto frames other than the big 3
Probably not they would have to get another VA plus usual design process
true
I could see them doing it in a way where all the others are silent and can be customized like Operator/Drifter
I'd see at most a 4th one in case the quest unlocks some multiplayer mode that uses protoframes
it would be wild if echoes of 1999 will announce a new warframe that you can farm but this warframe is going to be some "antagonist" (like fighting them like kullervo fight)
And like you gain the 1999 form + current warframe
Saryn proto frame would cause me to become a different man entirely
Lmao imagine the infestation seeing the 1999 saryn and they would just flee
I'd collapse
Scaldra got ahold of Albrecht’s little cure and made their own version but went too far with it so they ended up making a normal warframe—
Idk if that’d work though since there’s other factors that’d need to happen for that to reasonably work, like nullifying this hypothetical 1999 frame’s sapience
Yea I’m betting there will be more
Nahh i feel like you're right
Since there's likely a lot of reference to RE it wouldn't be surprised if Umbrella corp = SCALDRA
Considering Albrecht wanted to cure as many as he could and we see a LOT of vessels, yeah
if vessel are somehow connected to their original "host"
Their fate is sealed maybe
Oooo that would be cool
Scaldra is likely an evil government or cooperate entity so yeah
I just can’t see them making a frame like the Orokin did, but it’s possible
They are, the vessels are made of samples of their 1999 counterparts
But if they're really connected to the original host, it also mean that... Why is it possible to see one getting grabbed by fingers
Like what is their fate ?
Every vessel has 1999 infested flesh with a dash of 1999 human 
Yeahh i really feel like there will be a very wild thing about them being linked to each other
Maybe... In some way, this is why we could go to Arthur's soul so in 1999
Wally did take control of a vessel, perhaps he will have have someone do his bidding
Quincy vessel when?
but it also make me understand why the infestation fear the void
Like wtf do you mean my body is in 2 timeline and i can see it at the same time 😭
Nemesis Nyx!
1999 Nemesis 💀 like their version of Infested liches lmaooo
I'm hoping Drifter goes to 1999
Yknow if you see a man with Galaxy eyes controlling people and digging to your house from Mars it’s pretty scary
Speaking of timeline
I’m fairly certain 1999 is not actual time travel, if its a strand of khra its a conceptually embodied timeline, so when we go back into it we are doing time travel but within the confines of the conceptually embodied timeline, not time travel within the origin system’s timeline
How do they get back for Duviri tho
Tbf they are horsing around
They use Volt
It... Would be surprising to see the drifter literally flying into strand of khra in some ways
Like i mean, the horse could may have more things on it than being a bad travel companion
Supposedly they left duviri to help the operator
No but how would anyone get physically to and from 1999 when the only physical method was destroyed
I mean yes transference but we don’t know if they could transference back
No I mean how would they still access Duviri if they’re stuck in 1999
The door in our Dormizone duh
Well, you have to finish the quest first
They should fast travel to a statue 😭
😭 if you’re physically in 1999 you can’t go back to the origin system and thus Duviri
Did we actually go to 1999 or what 1999 would be if we wasn’t on time in the quest
Imagine drifter pulling out his horse in 1999
That’s about events being rewritten which is not what I’m talking about
Ngl, horse next to motorcycle is sick af
If we get the ability to use the Atomicycle in open worlds I’m gonna lose it
But yeah, i still don't really understand how we're supposed to go to 1999 if the pathway is constantly being obstructed by the murmur
If 1999 is a strand of khra it is a conceptually embodied timeline, which I would assume means that its events and timeline have no baring on the origin system
Save losing it for driving it through corpus ships
The “pathway” was also destroyed by Loid
Right. New timeline branch ala Trunks from Dragonball
There’s presently no physical way to 1999, but we do have transference through the vessels
Fib and real Loid might create a way back for us. And yea there’s the Vessels
Then how is Albrecht there???
Did we go to 1999 present day in the quest or what 1999 will become if we aren’t on time
Him and real Loid built a way to go there
No, not a timeline branch
Its a conceptually embodied timeline, nothing is being changed for it to happen, its created and is separate all together
He busted the last physical way to 1999
Because he had a physical way there before Loid destroyed it, we see that happen in Whispers
I mean, in theory, if i'm correct
The infestation is way too wild and likely each vessel is connected to each 1999's character.
Which mean the infestation is the path, but we need to find a way to not getting always getting our link broken by the murmur (iirc those are literally severing the link)
But we have his notes. And Loid. We will find a way
I mean yea, thats the point of what Loid said at the end of Whispers, that he'll get something to work, but until then there is no physical way there
Their link isn’t a physical one though, but we can use that link for transference which we do in whispers
I’ll just get Eurelia on the phone she is smart
Ehhhh not a good idea lol
The only way to 1999 presently is through transference but that doesn’t mean there’s a way back from 1999 once you’re there
But the fact that the vessel is a sample from the original host may have a lot more implication to on how we will proceed to go in 1999 🤔
I think we won't be able to control arthur but we will be a "witness" or some kind of things, i guess we will help them with clues and other things ?
Yeah, let’s not tell her her dad is not only alive but fighting. Whatever he is fighting
I love how Wally can just casually travel anywhere he wants
That's why I'm saying drifter should go but the operator should stay. Thier link through eternalism could pull drifter back
She spent all this time looking but forgot to go downstairs
In whispers Arthur says its like someone is in his head
We guide him essentially as well as the other Protos
The way i see it is : The drifter need to go
The operator need to stay
Why the operator need to stay ? To fight the murmur , to protect the link, constantly fighting the murmur to help the vessel
yep, we are helping them but not controlling them somehow lmao
Exactly. Having them in two places is the only way to naratively make sense why we'd be doing things at "both times" at "the same time"
I can see that actually, but I’m still unsure if thats a good idea as if they get stuck in 1999 there’s no way back
Why risk that when you can transference into a proto?
We’re like a whisper in the back of their mind 
I feel like the drifter will be the one to do transference
IIRC they know about transference somehow (from eternalism thingies)
There’s no real reason for Drifter to stay in 1999
Think Albrecht can solve Deimos’s infestation problem?
The Infestation on Deimos is actually a good thing
The end of 1999: the protos become full warframes and end up mindless weapons platforms
No but he can make it worse so it's much better tbh
They know from using the Lotus hand and from the results of the new war
And Teshin
Only during War time
Unfortunately I can see this happening :(
Still a good defense for whatever comes in the future
The game was rigged from the start
Plus you also have the Grineer and Corpus who occasionally like to roam around
based on the news feed, the language there would suggest that our operations will be independant/along side the protos, meaning we might touch ground in 1999
I mean, they were infected ):
I really feel liek we will talk to the drifter and send him to 1999 through the transference or some other way, like the horse literally flying to the strand of khra lmaoooo (i mean, if the horse can fly, he is like the best ship with infinite flight)
But our operator will defend the vessel or link to 1999 by fighting the murmur
So potentially by the end of 1999 we’ll have a physical “pathway”
hell, might even be how we start 1999 from the tenno pov
Maybe, but Loid’s focus right now is the vessels not the pod
Isn’t 1999 gonna be a permanent new gamemode or something?
Like duviri i feel ?
Maybe new node mission on earth (but it would make earth starchart worse tbh)
Our present goal is rebuild the vessels not find a physical way to 1999
Was 1999 we went to something that will happen in future like when we got New War before Duviri
Yea cause why would they only bring all of these new tilesets, characters, etc for one quest and then never seen again
Another concern is, if we see 1999 go from 1999 to 2000 then how is 1999 gonna stay 1999
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