spoiler-chat

[thick jolt]

But anyway its a lot of "thinks" and "believe"s cause we dont have that much info

[real helm]

I know only that I neeeeeed a baby Stalker plushie

[tranquil dust]

this makes sense

and same i need a plushie q.q

[thick jolt]

Also another thing
Instead of executing sorren and jade what better way to punish them than to make them eternal(warframes) but never able to have a child and with jades form as an eternal reminder?

Would also be on brand considering umbra and balas

[rain otter]

yeah probably. Stalker might not have been stalker during the night of naga drums.

idk.

ill have to look at the like dialog again.

[amber terrace]

I was gonna say something similar, I wouldn’t put it past the Orokin to be sadistic and petty and malicious enough to turn a pregnant person into a Warframe and make said Warframe carry the baby from when they were human. On top of that, they also probably did it to mess with Stalker/Sorren Matragrano

[plain onyx]

sorren

sounds familiar

soren

[plain onyx]

anyone who played minecraft story mode would recognize that dude lmao

[balmy storm]

I mean
They did it because they broke the Legems, I’m guessing low guardians aren’t allowed to have children

So the Orokin did what they always do
They made an example of someone

[nimble bridge]

Not sure where to talk about it, but does anyone else feel like the people over on the WF forum site have been unusually and uniformly negative about the quest compared to everywhere else? Is it just the demography of the people who are most inclined to use the forum over other channels, is something else going on, or am I just missing something/blind?

[balmy storm]

I’ve heard it’s mostly people on the forum, idk any

[obtuse gyro]

To me the forums have always been a hotbed of negativity. You want a negative opinion? You can always find it in the forums

[nimble bridge]

Dang, don’t use it often, but I just wanted to see what people’s thoughts were over there, I had no idea it was like that : (

[rain otter]

The forums are a silly place they are very negative about everything.

Now to be fair it is one of the best places to give criticism and stuff.

[nimble bridge]

“On second thought let’s not go there, it is a silly place” XD

[rain otter]

I don't recommend usually going there unless there is like a actual problem you have and reporting bugs and things.

[nimble bridge]

True, I just hope they’re not getting their info on community opinions solely from them

[rain otter]

It has its uses but it is full of people that use forums in current year lmao.

Like don't do any daily checking of it lmao.

[balmy storm]

Roasted them omg

[rain otter]

Lmao

[balmy storm]

Only use the forums have ever had for me are solving random gameplay questions and Gray’s overview of Duviri
Which I found recently

[tranquil dust]

i just checked it for lore, clarification on things i missed b4 i knew there was a discussion spot in discords

bc sometimes i think i miss things

[grim sandal]

I wonder if the stalker baby will ever appear in the game again.

[tranquil dust]

i wonder too

[balmy storm]

It very likely will

[junior vine]

It does but in a stupid way

Jade's stomach

She gave birth to the baby why is it there😭😭😭

[hazy flume]

Yeah, I only go to the forums to report bugs, I'm a YT content creator so, if I find a bug (I replay the quests a LOT)

I end up reporting said bug with a recording etc.

Sad to hear people are not happy with the quest. I'll admit I found it was fantastic because it was nice to have something that hit me in the emotional damage department.

[rain otter]

I think most people liked it. I still compare it to chains of harrow.

[junior vine]

Poor Cavalero...

[hazy flume]

Yeee I can see why

[hazy flume]

I forgot Cavalero felt the wrath of my tourrettes x3x.

[hazy flume]

I'll admit, my partner only just did the whisper in the walls quest the day beforee Jade Shadows released. He wasn't happy with that.

I told him "ya know a new quest releases tomorrow right? Maybe things will get better."

Damn... everything is just from the quest to the event currently, it's so FUN.

[rain otter]

Whispers in the walls is great. It is very "see you in 1999" ending though lmao.

[junior vine]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[rain otter]

But we get to see Albretch's assistant/gay lover fleshy Loid.

[hazy flume]

Ikr, I just enjoyed Arther. Because it was like revisiting DarkSector so oml... legit I replayed DarkSector because of it.

(I find I have a love and hate relationship with Loid in-game wise.)
1 second he's being nice to you, the next he's being snappy and I'm like "Bruh you use that tone with me I'll-"

[junior vine]

Yeah

[rain otter]

He's not snappy he's just British and old and gay.

[hazy flume]

I'm British

And I ain't-
Nah wait a second I can't argue with that.

[junior vine]

I refuse to believe he is gay

Not gay British

[rain otter]

He's just like a character from Vicious it's fine.

[junior vine]

Wait, we talking about Loid or Albrecht?

[nova harness]

Both

[rain otter]

Loid but also

Albretch and loid are gay.

[hazy flume]

I kinda think he sees Albretch as a father figure. (I could be wrong, just came across as that.)

[rain otter]

Idk what to tell you.

[junior vine]

Isn't Albrecht bisexual...

[junior vine]

There's a whole love letter in the end of the quest

[rain otter]

Yeah no

[nova harness]

Albrecht isn’t gay he’s bisexual

[rain otter]

Maybe?

[hazy flume]

Ah where was that? XD

[rain otter]

It is FOR WHOM the BELL TOLLS

[junior vine]

He is, he had a wife before Loid

[junior vine]

Albrecht had a wife...

[hazy flume]

True dat

[junior vine]

How do you think Euleria was born

[hazy flume]

Hence how the family exists lol

[rain otter]

I know also she left a long time ago.

[junior vine]

Father is just a deadbeat

[rain otter]

So we don't know anything about her.

[rain otter]

What?

[junior vine]

True that

[junior vine]

He don't care about the entrati family

[rain otter]

Father isn't Albretch.

[junior vine]

Ik

[rain otter]

Father is Mother's husband and he does care about his kids.

[junior vine]

And Albrecht left to keep Loid safe

[rain otter]

Like he let his daughter cut off his arm.

[junior vine]

Clearly not as much as Deimos

[hazy flume]

Yup

[rain otter]

What?

That doesn't make sense what you said.

About father.

[junior vine]

He doesn't take extreme measures to keep his family safe but he'll send a full on tenno with a necramech down to the heart to fix it

[rain otter]

He literally did what?

[nova harness]

he couldn’t anymore

[rain otter]

All the necramechs and the tiny necramchez where made by him?

[rain otter]

Also loid and Albretch where a couple like we even lines from Loid later that are "better to have loved and lost" and stuff like that. Even DE have said like "oh yeah they should kiss".

[hazy flume]

Imagine having another Necramech other than Bonewidow and Voidrig

[rain otter]

Idk what to tell you about that.

[nova harness]

The heart dying would make the family grow more apart

[graceful zodiac]

We know Loid for sure loved Albrecht

[junior vine]

Heart Of Deimos

[hazy flume]

Bruh that would have beene adorable.

[junior vine]

Literally at the end we had to repair the heart

[graceful zodiac]

Albrecht has a 2/3 odds of returning those feelings

[junior vine]

Am I the only one who payed attention to the love letter at the end that helped us be able to fight the indifference?

[rain otter]

He can't walk around he gives us the necramech.

[rain otter]

No I did.

[rain otter]

Yeah we literally know he does have you listened to the fragments and such?

He literally says he wanted to always tell Loid he loved him.

[nova harness]

Why didn’t he?

[hazy flume]

Are the fragments from collecting the books? I need to sit and check through those fragments at some point.

[rain otter]

Yeah

[hazy flume]

Sweet. I'll defo check those out then. Would be nice to know a lil more.

[junior vine]

He was affected by the indifference

[rain otter]

Cuz he's Albretch and is worried about Wally and just couldn't bring himself to do it.

Like have you told every person you wanted to tell "I love you" to that?

I can't imagine you always said everything you wanted to say to someone before you couldn't anymore.

[hazy flume]

I'll admit I struggled myself to say that to my partner when he had to return home overseas.

It's difficult when your full of all these emotions and just don't know what to say in that split second moment that you have to say it.

[rain otter]

Yeah.

[graceful zodiac]

The Lab Notes? I have, and Albrecht doesn't mention feelings like that at all. The same suggesting we get in the quest, but no outright statement. Unless you're referring to the one line when Loid was healing him

[rain otter]

The healing him but the "he always wanted to say" is like in the quest itself.

[balmy storm]

It’s kinda obvious Loid and Albrecht have feelings for each other
Rebb even has said she wants them to kiss lmao

[rain otter]

But also like if someone basically put you back together you would probably be attached to them.

[rain otter]

Yep.

[balmy storm]

Aside from it outright stating it, they have feelings for each other lol

To deny it by this point just feels silly

[rain otter]

My partner when I told her I loved her for the first time it was a very hard thing for me to do but it was a very sweet moment.

Here's to many more.

[hazy flume]

pwq I hope you both have many more too!

[hazy flume]

Indeed.

[graceful zodiac]

Yes, his speech message during the final fight, which is why I say it's 2/3 odds, based on what his last words to Loid were

[hazy flume]

I am curious as to what names people picked for the Baby tbf.

I went with Orion. Considering he's called Soren and her Jade. Orion seemed like a nice choice especially given with how special and rare that child is.

[rain otter]

Sirius

[junior vine]

He's rare because like his mother he became a warframe. He became a warframe because she was pregnant with him as a human

[balmy storm]

I went with Sirius because it seems to be the name that Jade wanted for the child

Seemed fitting to honor her legacy in more than just keeping the jade light and her away from Parvos

[hazy flume]

Oh I see OvO

[balmy storm]

That being said Orion is also a very good name
Both are good and I love your reasoning for picking Orion

[junior vine]

I went with Orion because it's an interesting name

And kinda because it's a name of a ranger from power rangers

[balmy storm]

Both are very good names, DE is good at making tough decisions
Even if those decisions don’t necessarily impact too much (as far as we know)

[junior vine]

Just like people chose Sirius because they thought of Sirius black from Harry potter

[balmy storm]

I did not lol

I chose it for Jade since I interpreted Sirius as the name she wanted and Orion as the name he wanted
Could be wrong but thats my interpretation

[hazy flume]

Yeah tbf I found it difficult because Sirius is literally a star, then Orion is a constellation.

So, both were literally fantastic names and it was like I miss my middle option. lmao

[balmy storm]

I didnt know Sirius was a star 😯
I like my choice even more now lol

[junior vine]

Speed running sisters is fun

[hazy flume]

Yeeee :>

[balmy storm]

What a fantastic quest, absolutely beautiful in every way

[hazy flume]

Look up the meaning for both, I knew Orion was a constellation, as for Sirius being a star I was a little on the side of "I think that's a star..." Looks it up, yep so it is.

[undone lodge]

I went with Sirius, since Stalker has his whole transition from being a Hunter (Red) to being a Protector (Green) so it seems fitting, plus the whole each parents choice thing

[hazy flume]

I get you~

[balmy storm]

Fun fact, apparently if Jade is equipped and Stalker comes after you he’ll just leave and you immediately get the loot drop

One of the coolest passives

[hazy flume]

oml pwq THAT'S SO SAD

More emotional butt hurt for Stalker.

ngl I feel for him, he's now an only Dad pwq

[undone lodge]

He even says “Never”,

[balmy storm]

I didnt know that part
Love that so much

He’ll never hunt her, not even a fabricated copy
Based Stalker

[nova harness]

Bro would probably get destroyed anyway

[dense viper]

💀

[junior vine]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jade fr out here cheating on the stalker

[nova harness]

Shouldn’t it be the

[dense viper]

Hunhow

The worst great hunhow

[nova harness]

Hunhow was sleeping with Jade confirmed

[junior vine]

🤣

[dense viper]

Thats why he message us 💀

[junior vine]

Probably

That's probably how he knew💀💀💀

[nova harness]

So the baby has Sentient and Warframe powers

[dense viper]

Yea thats how it survived thousends of years in jade

[dense viper]

didnt hunhow said do stalker to finish her ? 💀

damn quest hit harder now daaaumm

[junior vine]

Or yk...
Warframes don't die after thousands of years

[nova harness]

Except when they do

[junior vine]

The tenno themselves are thousands of years old and they still look like kids...

[dense viper]

becouse of the void

not themselfs do not forget that 😄

[junior vine]

Ballas was still alive

The queens were too

[dense viper]

did not granmother told a story about drinking kuva ?

for getting immortabilyty

[junior vine]

I chose to drink the kuva

Sooooooo

Also the tenno were in the cryosleep for a millennia

[nova harness]

And I think people in the Warframe universe naturally have a longer lifespan

Based on how old Darvo is

[dense viper]

The Orokin's rituals of Continuity and Kuva allowed them to cheat death by transferring their consciousness out from their old, rotten bodies into younger, healthier ones. Considering death beneath them, the Orokin decreed a day to make fun of it by masquerading as the dead. This day was known as Naberus.

On one eventful Naberus, three Orokin grew bored of the festival. One of them had an idea to reinvigorate their spirits: they kidnapped three Ostrons and mutilated their bodies, and then used Blue Kuva to temporarily transfer their consciousness into these mangled corpses to be used as costumes for the night.

However, a servant girl approached the three Orokin's original unconscious bodies. Taking a flask of Crimson Kuva, the permanent seal of Continuity, she tipped it down their throats. The girl vanished thereafter, and when Naberus ended, none shrieked more loudly and were more terrified than the three Orokin who found themselves permanently trapped in the Ostron corpses.

well lets say it

Sentients are suposted to kill or ,,drain,, life from tenno as war teach us so why
child kiled a warframe if Jade and Stalker as history show us where operators

Hunhow is a sentient maybe thats why the kid drain life from jade just like that

[balmy storm]

Because of cryosleep lol

We know the tenno can age but it’s the cryosleep that kept them as a child, mentally they’re not children anymore due to them living through their frames for years, but physically they still are children

[balmy storm]

Ballas was likely in cryosleep the queens used continuity to keep themselves alive like many Orokin before them

[flat magnet]

Ducky did you read the Jade shadows chat?

[candid finch]

The stalker and Jade are like Umbra, not like the operator, arguably worse since it measn the Orokin exposed Jade to the Helminth strain while preggo

Even after Duviri I never could get rid of my little grotto

[nova harness]

🫡

[empty mortar]

My theory is
That jade and stalker are like, either the prototypes, or umbra was the prototype and both of them were the successful versions

[obtuse gyro]

Again, umbra is no prototype

Jade is a full fledged warframe, also not a prototype

Stalker isnt even part of the tenno-frame line up. They keep harping on the fact that stalker doesnt fight like us

[empty mortar]

I mean
True, his stats say so lol

[empty mortar]

I mean, he's definitely an experiment of a bigger project
Due to his, conjealed fleshy appearance beneath

[obtuse gyro]

That is incorrect. That is simply highlighting how warframes were once humans/are heavily modified and augmented humans

Umbra is not an experiment he is a punishment

[empty mortar]

Pretty sure umbra was an experiment of balass testing the effects of the infestation of humans inside of warframe armour

[candid finch]

Normal warframes are infested goo underneath, they used humans originally with the helminth strain inside metal cocoons (coffins), that is why Umbra (and assumadely Stalker and Jade) are sentient, where as other warframes are not

[empty mortar]

true

I mean
I think ALL the frames were like stalker and jade before they died, cuz after death, they're like husks that can be used by the tenno

[obtuse gyro]

Warframes are not armour

[empty mortar]

Like what happened to jade
If they rebuild the frame, they can use they're whole frame/armour

[empty mortar]

Take 1 look at 1999

And tell me that's not some kinda armour

[candid finch]

Protoframes, not warframes

[obtuse gyro]

Thats not even armour either

Thats their actual bodies too

[empty mortar]

That's not armour??

[obtuse gyro]

Just like real warframes

[empty mortar]

Ngl
That's gotta be hard to wash

[candid finch]

DE has been EXPLICETLY clear that there is a different between the protoframes and Warframes, even frames like Umbra

[obtuse gyro]

Like you've seemed to have missed the point of the sacrifice and albrechts notes

The sacrifice explicitly laid out that people were transformed into frames. Something that things like the Mirage Prime Trailer and albrechts own work on the protoframes reinforce

There isnt "armour" thats a whole body there

[empty mortar]

Huh

[obtuse gyro]

The tenno dont wear the frame, theyre remotely piloting it via transference

[empty mortar]

I assumed that humans were FUSED with the frames (the frames being like an exo armour or even the proto frames(

[obtuse gyro]

No they were turned into frames

[empty mortar]

Damn
I wonder how they got the designs so smooth

[obtuse gyro]

Ballas: "We took our greatest, volunteers or not, and polluted them with these cultured reagents. They transformed. They became infested but only just. Their skin blossomed into sword-steel. Their organs, interlinked with untold resilience. Yet their minds were free of the Infested madness. Or so we thought. We set them upon the battlefield, bio-drones under our command."

Thats just gen 1

[candid finch]

Umbra, Stalker, Jade, yes. Humans, infected with the Helminth strain of the technocyte infestation while still alive. After that it was just infested piles of blender goo put into metal coffins so that there was biology inside for the Tenno, explicitly the Tenno, those who were aboard the Zariman 10-0, to control through transference. See Lephantis calling the warframes their kin. And the infestation speaking during that Nidus quest mission type if you let the containment get low enough

[cobalt hedge]

Don't forget kullervo

[obtuse gyro]

Uh, all warframes are built like the others. Umbra jade, every one warframe is built similarly

Reconstructed warframes out of a blueprint dont reconvert a human, but are built exactly like how the original transformed human was

This is demonstrated when we rebuilt umbra from scans

[empty mortar]

Hmm
Do you think the whole zariman void rift accident was, planned? Because why would they make these frames that only the TENNO from THAT SPECIFIC ship, can control?

[obtuse gyro]

No it was very unplanned by the orokin

The discovery that the tenno could control frames was entirely an accident too

[candid finch]

Dude, the word Tenno was made after the accident, there are no other Tenno

It comes from Zariman 10-0

[obtuse gyro]

If not for that the orokin would have shelved the tenno forever

[cobalt hedge]

Ten-0 = tenno

[obtuse gyro]

Also like, they only made tenno specific frames after they discovered that tenno could control them. They didnt try to make tenno to control the frames

[empty mortar]

Good point

I feel like at some point parvos is gonna start using the corpus to try and re-create the frame creation formula

Do he could have a army of frames that he could control

[cobalt hedge]

I think the formula is quite simple

[obtuse gyro]

If parvos could have made his own frames he wouldnt have needed ballas to build protea for him

[empty mortar]

But balass rn is kinda
In the forever box I'm pretty sure

[empty mortar]

I feel like the formula like the items needed is simple, but the way to make a frame is more complex, and would need balass's knowledge

[cobalt hedge]

Helmint +human+ tech=warframe

[empty mortar]

SCIENCE

[cobalt hedge]

Albrecht made one but that hardly counts cus he was smarter than ballas

[empty mortar]

Yeh

[candid finch]

Making a frame is easy, making a frame like Umbra that you can control, or recreating the Tenno event, much less easy

Without Kuva, mind you

[empty mortar]

I feel like parvos would need to find the oldest orokin derilect possible just to find archives and rememenants of how they made the frsmes

[cobalt hedge]

Bro needs the vitruvian

[empty mortar]

It's like making a car
Making the outside metal and wheels
Easy
Making it work
Not so easy

I wonder how much forma stalker has on his build fr

Bro has nearly 5k hp and almost 800 energy

With a scythe that does 3 million red crits

[cobalt hedge]

The build in the Mission was godly

[obtuse gyro]

When I used him in the event he had 1k energy

[empty mortar]

Exactly

And bro is mr30
Wow

[obtuse gyro]

But for some reason lower duration

[cobalt hedge]

He's just built different

[obtuse gyro]

Good thing I had more energy to spam smoke screen

[empty mortar]

I need to see stalkers foundry

Bro probably has 11k blueprints for auto breaches in there

And random warframe helmets

[cobalt hedge]

I need his helmet soooooooo bad

[empty mortar]

SAME
We have everything else
Where helmet?

[cobalt hedge]

DE is ckblocking us

But like ex prime there are things that need to be kept sacred

[empty mortar]

We have his sentient armour
We have his ship
His Uranus home base
And we have his weapons

[balmy storm]

we dont have his child

[empty mortar]

We saved his child
He keeps his child

One day we will control that child as our own warframe/jjj

[balmy storm]

i’d rather we one day pilot the child over Wally ever getting his grubby hands on them

Man wants unique things and we just delivered the most unique thing ever into existence

[prime lantern]

I mean from his perspective we'd likely be the most unique thing

To him there's an infinite number of Orions and siruses

[spice sparrow]

Do you think Wally will chill out if we throw a woman into the Void and create a Woman in the Wall so he can start to feel love?

[prime lantern]

To him there's likely just us and Drifter

Being finite in a world where everyone else would be infinite is rather interesting

[balmy storm]

The child is still the most unique being in the universe, there’s thousands of tenno but only one of that child
Yes potentially there is infinite but those possibilities aren’t realized and aren’t relevant

[cobalt hedge]

Or feel her constant harassment

[prime lantern]

To us they arnt relevant yes

We can't go there

[balmy storm]

Biologically speaking the child is the most unique being

[cobalt hedge]

A being born as a warframe

[balmy storm]

We also dont know how much Wally can access

[cobalt hedge]

Gonna be a tough childhood

[prime lantern]

To the man he can go there if he gets his fingy back

[balmy storm]

He def would prioritize getting his fingy

[spice sparrow]

Everywhere in the labs, as it currently stands

[prime lantern]

Right and if he gets fingy the most unique thing something majestic majestic is just another being across infinity to him

[cobalt hedge]

So he can shove it up his a..

[balmy storm]

But he objectively likes unique things
There’s an unlimited number of bird 3s, fibs and tagfers but he still took note of them due to being unique
The child is by far the most unique thing in the Warframe universe rn

[prime lantern]

I mean nothing was unique with fibbanochi

He was just kinda there

A norg like anyother

[balmy storm]

I mean true
Its the unique combo of the 3 animals

Which in theory there’s an infinite number of
So its whats unique and what he’s aware
If he becomes aware of the child I doubt it’ll be good for the child

[prime lantern]

Perhaps due to albretchs Mastery of the void albretch may also be something rather unique to the man

And yea I doubt any being coming into contact with the man will end well

He's evil

[cobalt hedge]

Not stalkys child leave orion alone wally

[spice sparrow]

Fibonacci gained sapience regardless because he probably was the first fish to go to the Void

[prime lantern]

With unclear motivates and an unclear endgoal

[spice sparrow]

Baro seems fine tbh

[balmy storm]

We don’t know he’s evil, I’d still say Wally’s misguided by the thoughts and emotions of Albrecht upon entering the void and Wally’s need of self
In theory he could be guided, but he likely doesn’t want to be so he won’t be lol

[spice sparrow]

Speaking of, isn’t he also extra unique?

[prime lantern]

Baro mmm sorta

[balmy storm]

Motive:
Get finger back
Get what we owe

[spice sparrow]

Like he got rid of all other Baros so now there’s only one Baro across the timelines?

[prime lantern]

All of him is the exact same

He didn't get rid of the other baros he just made them all the same dude

[spice sparrow]

That’s basically the same

[balmy storm]

Compacted into a singular baro

[prime lantern]

Misguided or not he's still evil

[obtuse gyro]

Wally vying for existence

By becoming everyone elses problem

[balmy storm]

His intentions are def not good

Dude didnt even ask to take memories smh

[prime lantern]

What exactly is existence for a being like him

[cobalt hedge]

As leverian said he's an existential parasite

[prime lantern]

Desire for something physical

[balmy storm]

Not something physical, a unique sense of self, to have what we have

[cobalt hedge]

Wally is just a bad case of impostor syndrome

[balmy storm]

A proper identity, properly being unique, as is he isn’t
He takes the forms of others, his creations pull from others, the angels and murmur may be unique designs but in-universe they stem from pre-existing things
Even his wall form isn’t unique, he uses that because he was called that

[balmy storm]

sus wally

[junior vine]

People need to stop rushing the mission for ascension💀💀

[cobalt hedge]

Thats kinda the point of it

[balmy storm]

It is kinda about getting out asap, thats how it was advertised lol

[junior vine]

Let's just say being thrown under the map isn't good

When they rush

[cobalt hedge]

How did you achieve that?

[junior vine]

Ifk

[balmy storm]

Did you do /unstuck ?

[obtuse gyro]

Physical and identity might be the same thing for this goober

Cogito ergo sum up in this stuff

[scarlet basalt]

So
What triggered the pregnancy of jade?
I mean in the timeline it's after ballas real death idk if it could be linked

[grand sundial]

dude i hope the baby frame because a future frame

also the /unstuck command doesn't work that well

I would get spawned under the map at times

and be stuck invisible and not able to move the whole round

[spice sparrow]

Stalker

[junior vine]

She was pregnant before becoming a warframe

And I guess that transferred over

[grand sundial]

it was before

[scarlet basalt]

She was pregnant for more than 500 years

[grand sundial]

yeah

[scarlet basalt]

Baby old af

[junior vine]

Idk how she didn't have a miscarriage😭😭😭😭

[grand sundial]

pompeii ash baby 😭

[junior vine]

I'd say around 10,000 years

[scarlet basalt]

She somehow delivered lmaooo

[prime lantern]

Ergo sum? The New exotic rocket sword

[grand sundial]

because they baby is a warframe too

[obtuse gyro]

Only if you roll wolfpack

[spice sparrow]

(With external help but still)

[junior vine]

It's like you can't even play as the stalker anymore

[grand sundial]

we got stalker's name reveal before 1999, that's so crazy 😭

[junior vine]

I got put under the map twice now

[prime lantern]

I want a rocket sword in warframe

Give me a sword that shoots rockets

[junior vine]

1999 should be in a few months

[grand sundial]

I usually abandon mission when that happens, it's a very bad bug

[grand sundial]

december 13th

[junior vine]

And unstuck doesn't even work

[grand sundial]

I know.. I hope they fix it very soon

[junior vine]

So that's just great.

[grand sundial]

1999 is gonna go crazy. who else is gonna watch tennocon?

[junior vine]

It's probably because they start the defense before you can even start

[prime lantern]

I do wonder how the showdown with wally will go

[grand sundial]

that is true

[junior vine]

I probably will as long as I don't work

[scarlet basalt]

Given that the baby is a lifeform that was never seen before
I doubt it will be even a Warframe because it doesn't make sense ? Idk hear me out but they're just a dude that could retain their selves without the need of a tenno
I still wonder how jade and stalker were also the same case, maybe the power of love 😔

[grand sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172960257606168647/1245192124149010503/image.png?ex=6674dc08&is=66738a88&hm=b477085c49393b2f05ac478f55f9b1c8c484d92be820a13dba8b0594c58f0dbf&

that is the time for 1999 apparently

[prime lantern]

I really want unum to be involved in the future lore

[grand sundial]

isnt this supposed to take place way before ballas

[prime lantern]

Yes

[grand sundial]

dark sector vibes 😭

[prime lantern]

1999 seemingly takes place before the orokin empire

[grand sundial]

I heard they are also dying from the disease killing fibb, tag, and bird 3

arthur and aoi.. but!! don't take my word on that

[prime lantern]

Aoi and arthur are suffering from being infested

[grand sundial]

yes, infestation

I can't wait for there to be a whole other area tbh

[prime lantern]

Bird 3 and gang are dying from what I am going to dub ontological cancer

[grand sundial]

ohhh

from the void p much

[prime lantern]

Yes

[grand sundial]

im so excited honestly

getting a free ak

[junior vine]

I officially hate playing the new mode as stalker

[grand sundial]

i honestly have fun as stalker

the elevators help a lot

[balmy storm]

Same, I like stalker mode a lot

Wish he had the lasers with the hate like in the quest but I guess that’s baby specific

[grand sundial]

I just hope that bug of being stuck under the map gets fixed

otherwise he is very fun to play

makes steelpath missions very easy too

I can't get over jade's song. I have been listening nonstop

[junior vine]

It's not that you're under the map, you just can't move

[grand sundial]

true. he is stuck invisible

I somehow finished a mission that way

[covert tree]

You have to bullet jump everywhere

[grand sundial]

i had to spam roll with double shift

bullet jump didn't work

[covert tree]

Ah I meant roll lol

[grand sundial]

yeah lol. it is so broken

I am so glad jade was easy to farm

now to wait for the clan to help unlock the ephermas ✨

[covert tree]

I'm gonna get jade then farm stalkers weapons

[grand sundial]

yess

I can get the skin right now but I am saving for the ephermas

[covert tree]

I wonder if when jade prime eventually releases they'll release a full stalker

Eventually

[grand sundial]

you can technically play as him in duviri

[covert tree]

I know he's great makes sp easy

[grand sundial]

they might not. I am not too sure

yeah he does

we technically have.. 4 sentient warframes now

[covert tree]

It feels like he's being built up to go to therapy

[grand sundial]

happy late father's day, shadow stalker aka sorren

[junior vine]

As long as you're on the elevator you should be fine

[steep delta]

What does the Jade Light do?

[junior vine]

Kills ppl

[covert tree]

Orbital lazer

[steep delta]

Oof

[grand sundial]

aura ✨

yeah it's pretty much a deadly spotlight i think

[covert tree]

Green stalker aka dad strength stalker looks so good it so simple yet so nice

[grand sundial]

It's very PRETTY

I like the fact that if you play as jade in any other mission and he spawns.. he just goes "NO.." then leaves automatically

[junior vine]

He also drops the loot

[grand sundial]

HE DOES??

free LOOT!!

I think I might talk here more. This chat not only is a spoiler zone but it also has nicer people talking here

[covert tree]

It's the best stalker farm use his wife against him

[grand sundial]

he won't spawn if you are jade

[covert tree]

It's cruel but affective

[junior vine]

He does, he just disappears

[grand sundial]

yeah

[junior vine]

But he'll drop the loot

Easy broke war farm🤣🤣🤣

No way I just did that...

[grand sundial]

That's actually good. my friend has been trying to get a weapon from him for a year now

this might help him

[fathom sequoia]

i really expected the corpus woman to just kill the jade baby anyways

[junior vine]

Same

[grand sundial]

the new corpus lady..

[junior vine]

I'm sure she got executed for letting Sorren go

[grand sundial]

the whole mission was very emotional. short, but emotional

[fathom sequoia]

i agree

i liked it

[grand sundial]

I hated how my operater looked bald in the cutscenes but it's alright

[fathom sequoia]

but now we know we can make warframe babies

[junior vine]

It was a nice quest

[fathom sequoia]

we need grendel x grendel rn

[junior vine]

My operator had it's full design

[covert tree]

My operator is ugly I was kinda hopping for drifter

[grand sundial]

what is funny is there was a dev stream months ago with people asking if warframes could get pregnant

[covert tree]

Lol

[fathom sequoia]

then select drifter

[grand sundial]

they said "Not yet" and people automatically said "mpreg umbra" 😭

[fathom sequoia]

i dont like operator either

[covert tree]

No it always shows op I hate that kid

[fathom sequoia]

yeah in cutscenes

[grand sundial]

The operaters scare me

[fathom sequoia]

why are they always built like that

[grand sundial]

in the new war, the "evil operator" in the zariman has such a goofy animation during the handshake scene 😭

[covert tree]

Atleast they gave drifter some more skins sure there just the adult section operator skins but hey

[covert tree]

*wally

[balmy storm]

warframe mpreg when

[grand sundial]

I figured it was wally.. but I keep hearing other theories of it

[junior vine]

Just sold 4 energize for 35p each

140p total

[grand sundial]

people are saying jade uses her baby as a weapon now 😭

[junior vine]

Wtf

[covert tree]

Those are silly theories it's obviously balls to the walls

[junior vine]

Now I don't want to rush Jade...

[grand sundial]

BALLS TO THE WALLS?? LOL

[balmy storm]

It was Wally during the deal

Jade does not use her baby as a weapon lol

[grand sundial]

I know 😭

[covert tree]

Stalker does

[balmy storm]

The Jade we use isn’t actively dying, big hint that she isn’t using the baby as a weapon

[grand sundial]

My friend thinks it is her baby when Sorren has the baby with him

I like how Hunhow just lets him

[balmy storm]

Hunhow is chill

[grand sundial]

Hunhow is a dad himself, he understands

[balmy storm]

We just need to cure his racism and save him from the retirement puddle now

[grand sundial]

TRUE!

Ballas is no more.. FREE HUNHOW NOW!!!!!!

[balmy storm]

We need to show him that not all humans are orokin and that it’s problematic to say that kinda stuff

[cyan crest]

and we need a really big hook

[junior vine]

"Held here by a purpose I cannot abandon"

[balmy storm]

Like c’mon dude get with the times we literally KILLED THOSE GUYS
We dont even hate the sentients, just cause we are what can kill you doesn’t mean we will 😭

[grand sundial]

Big fish bird

I miss Erra 😔

[balmy storm]

We all do 😔

[covert tree]

He's still around suffering

[grand sundial]

He reminded me of Ultron from Marvel so much, he was genuinly an enjoyable character

[balmy storm]

He deserved so so much better than “oops I trusted the literal one guy I shouldnt cause I got gaslit and now I’m dead/a puppet for a paradite”

[junior vine]

He's not the same

[grand sundial]

I hate what he did to Teshin.. but I still liked him

[balmy storm]

At least he didnt kill him

Yes he hurt him but he’s fiiine

[grand sundial]

Isn't he a ghost? 😭

[balmy storm]

What no

[covert tree]

Teshin chilling with his rabbit

[balmy storm]

He’s alive and fine in Duviri lmao

[covert tree]

Deer thing

[grand sundial]

oh yeah the old one..

[balmy storm]

Jackalope

[cyan crest]

fine is a stretch

[grand sundial]

didn't he die in duviri paradox too?? 😭

[cyan crest]

and he revived when the loop reset

[balmy storm]

Erra badly hurt Teshin, he fell into the void and into Duviri where he was taken care of

[grand sundial]

OHHH YEAHH

[balmy storm]

And funnily enough if Erra didnt do that then Narmer wouldn’t have fallen lol

[cyan crest]

butterfly effect

[balmy storm]

If he killed him Ballas would have won

[grand sundial]

warframe is so wild 😭

back and forth back and forth

[cyan crest]

if ballas hadn’t stabbed us and that broke the loop he probably would’ve won too

[grand sundial]

then we have to tie things with 1999 that takes place BEFORE current warframe

wayyy before

[balmy storm]

Also if he didnt cut Lotus’ arm off

[balmy storm]

We dont know that

[grand sundial]

I hope duviri paradox is playable again soon

[balmy storm]

1999 is likely a conceptually embodied timeline, so not real time travel

[grand sundial]

I thought albretch was working on time travel..?

[balmy storm]

Its really weird duviri still isn’t replayable considering it’d make sense lol

[grand sundial]

void travel time travel?

[balmy storm]

He kinda refers to it as that but thats cause he doesnt even know what it is yet

[grand sundial]

ohhh true

I saw that the voice of leon kennedy was on the roster 😭

[balmy storm]

If you conceptually embodied 30 years ago and went there you’d assume you time traveled, not that you or something else created a time as a place

[grand sundial]

yeah cause of the uhmm eternalism thing

[balmy storm]

No, not eternalism lol

[grand sundial]

what was it

[cyan crest]

hey if it branches out and like becomes independent it could be technically a different… timeline? like i struggle to comprehend strands of khra and their differences from more explicit conceptually embodied spaces like duviri but a wider multiverse explicitly exists too and like
muck, the void is weird

[grand sundial]

i forgot LOL

[balmy storm]

Conceptual embodiment is thought, concepts and emotion reacting with the void to create things

[grand sundial]

ohh true

honestly I think it is just a big reference to dark sector

[cyan crest]

it is, it is not just that

[grand sundial]

I've never played dark sectorm but that is what I have been hearing

[balmy storm]

I could def see that, but it still wouldn’t be time travel
Not even directly multiverse, idk what to categorize conceptually embodying new timelines as

[balmy storm]

It def is a reference in some ways

[simple python]

Evensong does not stop eximus-specific damage.

[junior vine]

I just need the Jade build😭😭😭

[grand sundial]

this could possibly be a timeline if warframes didn't become the issue.. but those infested instead who knows

[simple python]

And it does not stop eximus weapon fire.

[cyan crest]

technically time travel wouldn’t be time travel either, it’d be more like timeline hopping

[balmy storm]

I hope they reveal the origins of the infestation, if its anything like dark sector then we can blame the government

[grand sundial]

motorcycles...

imagine the mechanics on those.

[cyan crest]

i hope it’s not a conceptually embodied 1999

[balmy storm]

We’re actually traveling through time RIGHT NOW

[grand sundial]

WOAH!!

[cyan crest]

1 second per second into the future

[balmy storm]

yup

you are all time travelees

[grand sundial]

no way

[balmy storm]

yes way

[grand sundial]

that's crazy

[balmy storm]

Wait isnt that just being a higher dimensional being where you traverse time in the same way we do space?

[cyan crest]

idk, maybe

[balmy storm]

I think it is?

4th or 5th dimension
Can’t remember which

[scarlet basalt]

Oh my god is that a reference to the stand of khra ?

[cyan crest]

but like, conceptual embodiment was already explored by duviri
i hope 1999 explores more the eternalism part of the void, rather than conceptual embodiment again

[grand sundial]

If 1999 is a completely different story than warframe's main game and duviri.. I wonder how different it would be.. other than being more modern

and.. other than wally being there.. or albretch

and his silly kavat

[cyan crest]

both

[grand sundial]

why did he take his kavat there is my question.. what importance does it hold

did he just want his kitty with him LOL

[cyan crest]

kavats eat infestation

[scarlet basalt]

You don't do time travel voyage with your cat ?
You don't like your cat ?

[grand sundial]

THEY DO.. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

[cyan crest]

it’s safer to have a kavat with you when traveling to infested parts

[grand sundial]

so he knew where he was going had infested

[scarlet basalt]

Somehow he knew
He told us that it's the year of the plague

[cyan crest]

he had already gone to 1999

[grand sundial]

HE HAS?

[cyan crest]

in his travels in which he visited duviri, he had gone to 99 too

[grand sundial]

OHHH....

[cyan crest]

his logs tell us

iirc

[grand sundial]

that would make sense why he also said "You're late" to arthur

[cyan crest]

gonna check the archives gimme a sec

I went among the denizens of the plague year like a saviour, my hands filled with healing. To those who volunteered, I brought more than mere health. Their bodies were primed; it needed only the Helminth infusions, brought from my own time, to work the alchemy of transformation. They have become partial warframes, still in possession of their free will, yet enhanced, Void-attuned, capable.

Their humanity may not last. My deliverance may yet consume them, the human swallowed up in the sacred beast. And if my wayward disciples turn on me, what words of comfort shall I have beyond: this is the bargain we have made. Through our sacrifice, history will be saved.

As their loyal doctor, I have taken repeated samples from them. The sight of their Technocyte-riddled cells mutating gave me fresh visions. I could take this material, work with it, forge new creations. Eagerly I brought the samples back to Deimos and began to cultivate them.

[grand sundial]

ohhhh

I am so glad I am getting lore straight with people who know it better than me 😭

warframe lore is so good

[junior vine]

W or nah, 5p for r0 equil?

[cyan crest]

ngl i only know half of this stuff because of this channel and orokin archives

[balmy storm]

I dont think this is the chat fir that

[grand sundial]

ohh

[cyan crest]

i havent unlocked like a single piece of lore in game LMAO

[grand sundial]

my next step is to actually get good at warframe.

[balmy storm]

Its the best when you know whats happening

[grand sundial]

I have steel path and stuff and finished all missions

but my builds are so bad. honestly playing for the lore 🤷

[cyan crest]

it’s my next step too! after like
4 years
yay…

[cyan crest]

saaame

[grand sundial]

I've only played a year

[balmy storm]

Getting good def depends on what frame you wanna use and how to make them good for your play style

[cyan crest]

yeah i really should get good soon i’ve been playing for too long to still be this bad 😭

[grand sundial]

I really want to make my volt prime and kullervo builds good. but I dont really find a use when I just play for lore

[balmy storm]

Ik kullervo is very good

[grand sundial]

he is the only frame I use for sp. his 2nd and 1st abilites are op

[balmy storm]

His chains are very good if you have a good weapon that can 1 shot an enemy
Since it’ll chain to other enemies

[cyan crest]

i also only play for lore but new missions and their level caps are catching up to me

[grand sundial]

I use the xoris with kullervo rn

xoris and nataruk are my only good weapons as of now

[balmy storm]

I mainly play for lore but I like figuring out builds
Also fashion
The sheer amount of customization for both cosmetics and gameplay is amazing

[grand sundial]

I LOVEE fashion frames so much

[balmy storm]

Nataruk will serve you well

[undone lodge]

You don’t have Grimoire?

[cyan crest]

i need to get better at fashion too 😔😔😔

[grand sundial]

I do have a grimoire, you get it for free from whispers

but grimoires are better when you have dante equpped

[balmy storm]

Grimoire is mostly a utility, its not for everyone and def won’t carry if you dont have the mods

[cyan crest]

i just want my grimoire to look like Weiss, his very name brings kingdoms to their knees

[balmy storm]

My advice is have some idea in mind when you do it, like what are you basing it on
You may have to fiddle around with stuff first and then you’ll just come up with something

[grand sundial]

I hope when 1999 comes out. they add new hairstyles to operators/drifters

because oh my goodness 😭

[balmy storm]

My proudest fashion frame is hands down my Xaku, used their deluxe for the duviri look but used the plant ephemera from twitch prime
Its literally the perfect combo

[grand sundial]

I LOVE XAKU..

[balmy storm]

AGREED

[cyan crest]

my proudest fashions are probably my op and drifty girls

[balmy storm]

Xaku is my baby

[grand sundial]

i have the big horned skin for xaku. with the duviri vibes. I wanna get jade's signa because it would work

[cyan crest]

i wish i could make op more androgynous tho 😔

[balmy storm]

I gotta show my Drifter outfit, it’s inspired by 1999

[grand sundial]

ME TOO OMG

my drifter looks like a ghost 😭

like he has the sands of inaros epherma so hes like

spirit vibes

[balmy storm]

I really need to do a photoshoot for my 1999 Drifter and overgrown Xaku

[grand sundial]

you should. I don't see enough 1999 inspired fashion frames

[balmy storm]

The sands of inaros ephemera works so well for indifference-inspired fashion tbh

[grand sundial]

I usually use it for xaku and my drifter

[cyan crest]

my op’s main outfit is steel meridian inspired

[grand sundial]

because it gives a dead look

[balmy storm]

I tried with Umbra and I kinda have one with Dante (tech wizard) but they arent that good :/

[balmy storm]

We love supporting one of the best syndicates (morally)

[grand sundial]

I've only tried with my operator but I might try with zephyr too because of her power ranger looking skin lol

[cyan crest]

yesss i love my deteriorating boys

[balmy storm]

Best syndicates are suda snd steel meridian hands DOWN

[undone lodge]

Speaking of fashion

[grand sundial]

most of my frames rn are like man in the wall inspired.. especially qorvex

[cyan crest]

so true

[balmy storm]

Arbiters are okay too I guess, old school but they mean well

[undone lodge]

Is the Lohk ephemera worth the pack?

[balmy storm]

Qorvex demon core

[grand sundial]

which one is the lohk one. the dragons?

[balmy storm]

Y e s

[undone lodge]

The Void aura you get with Golden Mend

[balmy storm]

Xaku’s deluxe is one of the best packs in the game

[grand sundial]

OHHH THAT ONE

I'd say it is good

[cyan crest]

im trying to do an evangelion type plug suit for my operator but it’s difficult to get it right

[balmy storm]

The void tendrils are the same as Xaku’s 3
Gaze iirc

[grand sundial]

I want to get this one epherma so bad from the zariman. it gives you extra arms

[balmy storm]

Oh that one’s fantastic

[grand sundial]

I also need to convince my friend to help me with the steel path murrmurr assassination mission because you get these accessories for your landing craft

[balmy storm]

Btw the Archon shard in the chest ephemera looks AMAZING on Xaku
It slots in so perfectly

[grand sundial]

giant hands on your ship

I KNOW.. i did that too, it's so good

[balmy storm]

Goodluck
I’ll stick to my eyeball on my ship for now

[grand sundial]

HOW? wait where do you get that

[balmy storm]

Deep archimedea, beat it once and its yours

[grand sundial]

ohhhh

[covert tree]

I'll just max my operator tree

[balmy storm]

Like max it too iirc

[cyan crest]

i wonder how that would go with the new stalker dropship

[grand sundial]

ic ic tysm

[balmy storm]

Which one you going for?

[covert tree]

Maduri

Love op love frame

[balmy storm]

I can tell you
It is AMAZING it fits better than any others

[cyan crest]

ooooo

[grand sundial]

do you perhaps have a screenshot of it

[undone lodge]

Are those what the Sumdali are?

[balmy storm]

I’ve been using the Zariman landing craft and its good there, but omg the stalker ship works so much better

[grand sundial]

yes!

[balmy storm]

Void inspired stalker ship with eyeball
10/10

[cyan crest]

i need this

[grand sundial]

I was so happy when the stalker ship dropped

my friend gifted me it. 10/10 ship

[balmy storm]

I do wish it was a unique ship

Would’ve been amazing to have the ability to summon stalker or a jade light beam or something as air support
But also I only ever use orokin eye so 🤷‍♀️

[grand sundial]

TRUE..

I remember I played as stalker and it was pretty much end mission. So my stalker started to kneel to yknow leave. and this random jade just kneels by him.. 😭 even people in the missions are being cute about the lore

I hope you can play as shadow stalker for awhile, but I bet you they are gonna remove it eventually

[balmy storm]

I had a Jade just stand next to me while I was streaming my game to some friends, I love this game 😭

[empty mortar]

The new quest be like

[grand sundial]

people are so cute in the game 😭

[empty mortar]

This community can either be wholesome
Or devils

[undone lodge]

Even better

[balmy storm]

Jade and Stalker 😭

[grand sundial]

I've seen only wholesome people. there was a game were everyone was just spam crouching at me when I appeared

[covert tree]

Both

[balmy storm]

So… the Tenno?

[grand sundial]

THE ART OF THEM IS EVEN CUTER..

[empty mortar]

Cuz stalker is the most goated father

[grand sundial]

TRUEEEE!!!!

[empty mortar]

600 kill streak while being s single proud father

[grand sundial]

I'm proud to say I was never a shadow stalker hater 🔥

[empty mortar]

Calling it
Hunhow is the grandpa/uncle

[junior vine]

He's the grandpa

[empty mortar]

SAME
I've loved him since his first appearance

[balmy storm]

Warframe had one of the best communities I’ve ever seen in gaming
I come across a bad egg once in a blue moon and I’ve been playing since before Duviri was revealed

[grand sundial]

I've actually joined right after Duviri was added

I think

[empty mortar]

I've been playing before Deimos came out

[balmy storm]

Comparatively I play a game thats got a very positive and wholesome message and promotes all these good things but the community goes from good and helpful to the worst I’ve ever seen 😭

[balmy storm]

Same, do you remember the derelict drift?

[grand sundial]

I don't wanna even talk in gameplay discussion, I've already seen some people talk like they have some giant ego there 😭

[empty mortar]

Bro I have a whole gc of mates on PlayStation
With over 50 people
Some nearly in they're 30-40s
But they are the sweetest people ever

[cyan crest]

i never understood how to get to it and when i did they added deimos 😔

[empty mortar]

I love playing warframe with them and listening to they're stories

[empty mortar]

I think so

[balmy storm]

I actually forgot how you could get there
I think you just could or it was via keys???

[cyan crest]

keys i think

[empty mortar]

Yeh keys

[grand sundial]

oh btw whispers in the walls is replayable rn

[covert tree]

Stalker has unlocked dad jokes like what do you call a tenno floating in space ||a drifter||

[grand sundial]

STOPPPP

[empty mortar]

Oh god no-

[grand sundial]

LOL

[empty mortar]

I mean

He's allowed to
He has a license now

[feral lintel]

One more dad joke and I'm asking nihil to glass you

[undone lodge]

He had a license before but he lost it

[grand sundial]

the dad's of warframe. Hunhow, Umbra, Stalker.. who else

[covert tree]

I am your dadaning

[balmy storm]

Fun fact from an old player
If you completed sp derelict before deimos came out and got the trophy you were honored with a second trophy agyer completing deimos sp and deimos already unlocked on sp when deimos launched!
I have had deimos sp unlocked before mars sp since 2020 :]

[empty mortar]

What do you call jades husband?
Jades shadow

[feral lintel]

Ballas, the stepdad that didn't want kids

[balmy storm]

The Tenno’s dad
Who’s dead
😢

[grand sundial]

the tenno dad.. true..

[cyan crest]

hey kiddo

[grand sundial]

screw ballas. he can stay fatherless and kidless

[balmy storm]

little bengal

[undone lodge]

Drifter, Thrax’s dad

[grand sundial]

HUH??

[cyan crest]

i mean technically he’s our stepdad

[empty mortar]

Y'all controversial opinion
Stalker can solo sukuna from jjk

[grand sundial]

LOL?

[cyan crest]

goku could wipe out wally

[feral lintel]

Teshin, spacedad

[empty mortar]

And lifeless

[cyan crest]

space uncle

[grand sundial]

well ofc he can. a warframe weighs over 800 pounds

[empty mortar]

Ey
We don't insult the man Wall-E in these parts

[junior vine]

Jade's a good warffame fr

[covert tree]

Yeah respect balls to the walls

[cyan crest]

Goku would destroy wally without going into ssj1 ill tell you that much

[empty mortar]

Stalker has almost 5k HP
1k energy
And does 3 million red Crits with just his scythe

[grand sundial]

it's gonna take 4days to craft her without using platinum to rush her. I am going to lose it

[empty mortar]

Calm down

[junior vine]

I just rushed her🤣🤣🤣

That's how impatient I was

[grand sundial]

can't use plat rn 💔

[empty mortar]

How much plat y'all think stalker has?

[junior vine]

However what's nice is if you buy a golden potato the 2nd comes free(The silver for her exalted weapon)

[grand sundial]

I am just VERY glad she was easy to farm

[undone lodge]

“Domain Expansion + Fuga + Ten Shadows + whatever the cursed tools are called”

“[4]”

[grand sundial]

and blueprints would also drop randomly

[empty mortar]

throws depression at you and red Crits you with 3 million damage cutely

[grand sundial]

LOL

[empty mortar]

• stalker don't got no cursed energy
  And he got invisibilty

And he can probably execute sukuna with his first move lol

[junior vine]

She can armor strip too

[undone lodge]

Since we were vaguely on the topic of Umbra earlier

[undone lodge]

Anyone else that doesn’t properly customise their’s to keep him as he should be?

[grand sundial]

sukuna going after shadow stalker is like homelander going after a low level marvel character. Sukuna will NOT last

[covert tree]

Stalker has jade coming inside him

[grand sundial]

HUH?

[cyan crest]

what

[grand sundial]

😨

[cyan crest]

nah i got him proper drip

[empty mortar]

Pretty sure it's the opposite

[covert tree]

I meant stalker has jade light

[grand sundial]

It was a nice talk with you guys. I am probably going to hop off for now. Until next time!

[cyan crest]

[empty mortar]

Cya

[covert tree]

By||ro kitter||

[undone lodge]

Be

[undone lodge]

Show

[cyan crest]

i cant log in rn

[balmy storm]

If you could customize Stalker what colors would you make him

[cyan crest]

white and green

maybe black accents

[covert tree]

Excalibur colours

[balmy storm]

Okay
Fog
How do you keep cooking

Cause now I wanna see that color combo

[cyan crest]

i just Jade’d Sorren

[balmy storm]

The stalker is trans theory is now real

[cyan crest]

[balmy storm]

[undone lodge]

I’d probably keep him the same and add a little gold, maybe swap to white or something

Maybe add a little light grey in too

[balmy storm]

Oooo

The Warframe community back at it again with the good fashion

[cobalt hedge]

I'd much rather he kept the umbra body

[balmy storm]

You mean the scarf?

I dont even remember if that was official or not

[cobalt hedge]

In the second dream he had the umbra body without the scarf but had the loincloth

[covert tree]

I said that to and I preferred it to

Until he gained dad strength

[smoky schooner]

This new quest again raises the question of how long it has been since the fall of the Orokin Empire, like how long has Jade been like that for until the quest happens?

[proper wedge]

Centuries, right? That’s a long time with a bun in the oven.

[covert tree]

It's because it's a warframe

[south wigeon]

all we get is a vague "milennia"

[proper wedge]

Definitely does raise the question whether it’s just a very slow gestation period or if something triggered the birth.

[south wigeon]

so it has been at least around a thousand years since the fall

[covert tree]

So it'll take longer

[cobalt hedge]

I think it's a matter of will

[south wigeon]

still, It's not a normal Warframe at all, really

might age or mature in some other way

[proper wedge]

I’m personally inclined to think something triggered the birth because the warframes up to this point have all been in homeostasis.

[south wigeon]

either way, I do think at some point they will circle back around to Orion, one way or another

[cobalt hedge]

If not I'll be sad

[valid jolt]

Agreed. On the Warframe website it says that the events of Jade Shadows will have significant implications on the Origin System

[nova harness]

If Stalker or his kid aren’t in post Jade Shadows I’d be surprised

[valid jolt]

I think Wally might target Orion/Sirius in the future

For whatever reason

[nova harness]

Something I don’t understand is why the Jade light thing is attacking us

[valid jolt]

Wdym? Jade Eximus?

[nova harness]

Yeah and the Jade light beams

You’d think after Jade Shadows it wouldn’t

[hazy flume]

H a r d

[valid jolt]

Corpus Jade Eximus attack us with Jade Light because they’re fitted with technology to do so. And what else do you mean by Jade Light beams? If you’re talking about the moving Jade Light that tries to target you, those attacks are from Jade Eximus lol

[covert tree]

The grinner ether bought or stole it and the infested take over corpus and their ships all the time theirs all the jade eximuses explained

But it's just a thought

[valid jolt]

I think the other factions having Jade Light is just a gameplay thing. They only have Jade Light Eximus because of the operation that’s going on right now, iirc

[covert tree]

I'm just giving a lore reason

[valid jolt]

Because rn, there are no other Eximus types appearing except for Jade Eximus

[valid jolt]

Ohh ok. Thats a fair thought then

[cobalt hedge]

That only in the operation missions

[valid jolt]

Ohh nvm then lol. I’ve only been doing the alerts and operations and assumed only the Jade Eximus appeared in normal missions

[south wigeon]

Just the Warframe main page?

[valid jolt]

In the Jade Shadows section yea

[covert tree]

Is the tenno technically a God father he helped birth sirius/orion so maybe

[valid jolt]

Uhh no

More like the Doctor who helped deliver the baby

[rough raft]

DEAR DE CAN I UN PREGNANT MY JADE PLEASEEEEE

[valid jolt]

Lol

[rough raft]

why is she slim here give me a pregnancy slider please

[valid jolt]

Just think of it as an eye ball. Jade already looks like a biblically accurate angel sooo

[spice sparrow]

Because she's hiding her belly

Also it's an upper body shot

[rough raft]

sir

I think those are her hips at the bottom

[finite basalt]

The new war quest is pissing me off!

[bronze glen]

Wouldn't Jade Prime mean we get Stalker Prime too?

[spice sparrow]

Fair, but still

[valid jolt]

Doubt

Unless Stalker is a Digimon

[covert tree]

Stalker might release fully when jade prime releases

It's just a theory

[bronze glen]

I mean Jade Prime exists, so should the orokin version of Stalker

[valid jolt]

I could see him being Primed, but not playable

[bronze glen]

Doesn't have to be playable

Maybe just he gets an Excalibur Prime body with his head

[covert tree]

Or like base only in duviri

[valid jolt]

Ig it could make sense if he went Super Saiyan and turns all gold

Like a final form type thing

But the Orokin making a Prime version wouldn’t really make sense though

[bronze glen]

Black and Gold

[bronze glen]

Why not, Stalker is essentially a Warframe, no?

[valid jolt]

Because Sorren turned into a Warframe during the collapse of the Orokin Empire

[spice sparrow]

Eternalism

That's why Nidus and Revenant got Primed

[valid jolt]

They wouldn’t stop panicking and make a Stalker Prime randomly

[bronze glen]

Has to be with Jade Prime

[valid jolt]

Sorren wasn’t a Warframe when Jade was created

He was just a Low Guardian

[covert tree]

Isn't green technically prime jade and stalker/soren were made warframes near the same point

[bronze glen]

Yeah, but again, all of these things can be argued about Nidus and Revenant too lol

Nidus was literally called an old war relic

[valid jolt]

Welll if some shenanigans allow it then ig it could be possible. But as of right now, there’s no explanation on how Stalker could be Primed because Sorren is Stalker. He’s not piloting Stalker like a Tenno

[bronze glen]

Idk, transfers finds a dead excalibur prime, takes his stuff

Easy

[valid jolt]

Seeing Excal Prime in a future quest would be cool ngl

[balmy storm]

We have

Idr which cutscene it was but we see excal prime and mag prime fighting sentients
Pretty sure its the one where Erra makes his debut

[balmy storm]

Nidus wasn’t eternalism, his prime can just exist lol

[valid jolt]

I meant in a new cutscene. Possibly during Warframe Endgame

[balmy storm]

The Wall Wars

[south wigeon]

^^ it's Rev and Valkyr that are ???

[balmy storm]

No, only rev

[south wigeon]

why not Valkyr?

[balmy storm]

Because her prime can still exist?
It was just before

Some primes came before the base variant
Some came after

[valid jolt]

Ye

[south wigeon]

I mean it's mostly cuz Valkyr has the whole experiment thing going on and that's why she is the way she is, so how does her prime work?

[balmy storm]

Because there was a frame before the experiments?

[valid jolt]

Basically, her Prime was made first. Then came the bootleg version

[balmy storm]

I mean
Maybe
It could have also been the un-experimented on version, then her prime and then the non-prime got experimented on

[south wigeon]

No I mean I get that but wasn't Valkyr changed by said experiments? Why'd the prime function the same way? Or was she not changed by them and I'm messing something up?

[balmy storm]

Either way it works lol

[balmy storm]

Gameplay purposes
Its still the same frame just one was experimented on

[valid jolt]

Mhm

[south wigeon]

ok fair enough

[valid jolt]

Which is pretty sad because her abilities suck

Valk rework when

[balmy storm]

They don’t let lore get in the way and have explanations if possible
Like revenant prime

Real

[valid jolt]

Xaku Prime will be interesting

[balmy storm]

Xaku prime won’t be as difficult as people think

[valid jolt]

True

[balmy storm]

The prime parts can still exist and can still come together
Alternatively there’s also just void shenanigans (conceptual embodiment, eternalism, etc etc)
There’s options and none are difficult

[rain otter]

I think the answer will literally be "hey we saw this funny little skeleton doing warframe stuff so we made one on purpose"

We did it. Easy game.

[balmy storm]

Heck, depending on when exactly Xaku was discovered a prime could’ve been made afterward ex

[south wigeon]

Yeah worst case scenario they can always resort to what they did with Rev

[balmy storm]

Exactly

[south wigeon]

but most don't require that

[rain otter]

Rev was really cool though.

[south wigeon]

Oh I agree

[nova harness]

Ballas was not happy

[rain otter]

Cuz its funny void comedy.

[south wigeon]

but they shouldn't overuse "the void spat it out" explanation

[balmy storm]

Tbh since Xaku is known as master of the void they could’ve just done it themselves to some extent lol

[balmy storm]

Agreed
People already complain about eternalism bring overused even though its been used twice ever

[rain otter]

I agree. I just don't think they need to do that. Like just have Ballas recreate the original Xaku but prime after seeing their shmooves.

[south wigeon]

even if they weren't complaining about it they shouldn't overuse it. And they probably wont, because most frames really don't require that explanation for their prime.

[balmy storm]

Heck Albrecht could’ve made Xaku prime

[balmy storm]

Mhm

[rain otter]

Shmooving Xaku.

[balmy storm]

The complaints are unwarranted tbh
Eternalism is a cool concept that has been used sparingly

Literally just the drifter and rev prime

[south wigeon]

yeah but people memed it too much and now some think it's actually the case

[rain otter]

I agree. I think people have a knee jerk reaction cuz they think DE has or will use it a lot and they haven't. The Community talks about eternlism more than them.

Also I neved understood the "nidus couldn't Have a prime" cuz it like was a founded on a theory that was never confirmed or stated. Just "nidus was first" which doesn't and didn't make sense.

[balmy storm]

Tbh conceptual embodiment is being used a lot more but since eternalism was introduced first people assume that
Which sucks cause conceptual embodiment is such a cool concept, both are really

[rain otter]

Yeah

[balmy storm]

99% of frames can easily have a prime lol

Even Caliban!

[rain otter]

True

[balmy storm]

Though I’d hope his will be less orokiny and more sentienty

[rain otter]

Caliban was also from the old war and made by Ballas.

[balmy storm]

Narmer prime caliban when

[rain otter]

I hope the Caliban rework is good.

[balmy storm]

No? He was made by Erra lol

[south wigeon]

yeah conceptual embodiment is..... a lot of things. Void angels are just what comes to mind first.

[rain otter]

Erra and Ballas.

[south wigeon]

at least for me

[balmy storm]

Void angels aren’t even a direct result of that

[south wigeon]

is there a full list of what it has been used for so far?

Basically the entirety of Duviri aside

[balmy storm]

Duviri, the holdfasts, all incarnons

Possibly 1999 but we’ll see on that

Idk all and cant write em all rn

[rain otter]

The duviri incarnons story is funny cuz they where conceptual embodied jsut from Calevro thinking about how to improve weapons.

His special interest leaked into duviri.

[turbid gull]

Ok

Maybe this is just me but was I the only one who fanboyed when ordis asked if it was umbra on the ship? Because that implies umbra had freedom of movement

Which also implies Umbro does more than just sit in the foundry and potentially does stuff independent of/for us

And as a result comes and goes

Otherwise ordis would have no reason to ask if it was him

[languid dirge]

I was hoping to see that tbh

[south wigeon]

he also asks if it was Helminth, which is also hilarious

[languid dirge]

like stalker puts a blade to the operator

and then umbra puts a blade to stalker

[turbid gull]

Let’s be honest here, umbra bodies stalker

No contest

[languid dirge]

oh absolutely

but like it feels thematically appropriate for the operator and eventually umbra of all people to empathise with sorren

which would have lead to the same mission, but like maybe interventions from umbra?

[turbid gull]

So what is stalker up to now anyway? Is bro just chilling on the moon raising his weird warframe baby? Or is he like….strapping the baby to his chest whilst he hunts us? Because hunting kids with one of your own seems like an odd train of thought, especially since he seems mostly sane

[obtuse gyro]

Bruh, an excal already almost bodied stalker if it werent for jade

[turbid gull]

I think that was meant to be ours no? But maybe not since we had no knowledge of jade

[obtuse gyro]

No not necessarily our excal, just an excal

[turbid gull]

Bro if it had been umbra instead of a random excal? That would have made me freak out

Like maybe it’s just me but I wish they would give umbra a quest or a few comics where he exists independent of us

Hell this whole “baby warframe” plot is perfect for him

[languid dirge]

lmaooo that baby. I wasn't expecting a human but they looked like those bobble heads in game

[simple python]

I-- don't want to take this away from Stalker's development.

[south wigeon]

tbf, not that I disagree that Umbra bodies Stalker, but that was in the past, dude's obviously improved

[south wigeon]

Tbh I imagine that might be kind of why we seemingly haven't told Lotus about this, like it's his matter.