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so we can use it ? till they fix it or they gonna throws ban anyway :I
i think they're gonna let us keep the endo lol. banning people for running the mission they need to run in order to get jade and other things besides endo wouldn't be very fair
(besides, i'm sure they'd find it funny)
Also 3k Endo is small potatoes tbh.
for 5 mintes play ?
I think the drop table is actually broken and thats why people aren't getting parts bur shhhh.
getting it per run is huge, tho. i have like 150k+ endo rn lol
Yeah. Have you played a RJ void storm before?
Those can get over 3k/5min average.
I am counting scrap though.
ShRug.
Anddd here’s Ember prex card
@rain otter what about i just got 4 arcanes from boss and 24 steel essence :IIIII
im getting worried ...
4 arcanes from 1 run?
enlightened stalker is so cool ,_,
yes
Is that the name of that form? I want see someone like get a codex scan of him.
Werid.
Thats why im thinking about them banning players for keep grinding this all this way
that's what i'm calling him, anyway. based off of his scythe's new name "Enlightened Hate"
i mean i already have all new arcanes in 3 hrs of playing
i'm hoping he becomes truly playable at some point
might just be a matter of when at this point
It's unlikely, given everytime they've been asked it's been no
that was before, though
given his position in the game, he probably wouldn't be a selectable warframe like everyone else.
i guess the most they could do is make it so you can join parties of players that have completed the jade shadows quest
instead of just restricting it to Ascension
i've done nothing but play as him this whole time ~_~
I mean, they reiterated the sentiment just yesterday
Agreed
I found the story underwhelming.
also agreed
I dont get the "stop firing!" as this money hungry corpus lady immediately throws away what could possibly one of the biggest assets Parvos could have aquired. I also think Stalker should have struck down the crowd rather than calmly walk through them
So is the kid a cyborg or something?
In still confused how a Warframe could give birth
Also the sacrifice, it kinda spells it out for us
Yes but how the kid wasn't dead or birthed normally after all this time?
thats the question
yea x
And also why there is still a kid in jade after rebuilding her....
Thousands of years of being pregnant
I guess they meant it at the end that this just made more questions
ah. alr
understandable
I think the Jade we build doesn’t have the child, if I had to guess Ballas worked her being pregnant into her abilities
They aren’t a normal human
They’re something new
Why would they be a normal human?
Sirius/Orion could grow fast due to being infested
Thank you
They arent' cuz tehy aren't.
Corpus sample supplies about to dwindle real fast
That is incredibly macabre. Feels more like warframe working thier way through "certain interests" like some people have joked about before. Either ways, I think Ive finally met a warframe thats not for me
exactly. no one's ever heard of a mother being pregnant while turning into a warframe. the helminth infestation spread onto the child.
So the kid is gonna be something like a Warframe?
Maybe in 2 or 3 years we will know
Mhm, it created something new
Was the cool hate buff only for the quest at the end. I want harmony to do that 😭
Well there is a skin you can buy from ordis
Meanwhile excalibur with his funny glowstick
new exalted blade vfx is alr i guess (excal main)
It's funny to me that umbra apparently Wonders around the ship
I didnt even bother to look at it tbh
canonically?
Its the incarnon abilities for hate. You can get normal hate to be like that
Yeah ordis talks about it when stalker comes to parlay
bruh i missed that 💀
When whe go to our ship as stalker ordis search for us he says "operator? umbra? helminth? Is that you?"
As in while stalker is sneaking about the orbiter
Ordis calls out to Umbra along Operator and Helminth when on patrol in the orbiter.
yeahhh i definitely missed that. i was vc'ing with someone while doing the quest
So yeah it's Canon
that's such a cool/funny detail
The slashes and Sfx were cooler so maybe it transfers to incarnon hate
Would be nice if Umbra was actually visible on ship like that when we don’t use him.
That would be cool
We’re rebuilding Jade so she can collect her child support
It would be the first skin to stick around in incarnon mode
Wait hate had an incarnon?
Yea
Whole stalker kit has incarnon
All stalker weapons have incarnon
I somehow missed that
My bad
Pretty sure one of the evolutions also has a matching set effect like with jade's
I'm still disappointed we didn't get a stalker skin or stalker Helmet for Excalibur
And have synergy bonuses if you have the full set up
Think we're gonna see that sister at the end of the quest again? Xeto I think?
Ain't no way parvos was happy with her after that, she's gotta be either dead or defected now
Only if parvos hasn't exec....fired her yet
I think i may have played too much deep rock leading up to jade shadows i have started seeing the baby as a morkite seed cause green and gives energy
Also more precious than your character....
There are elevators involved in both situations....
I need to sleep
It was surprising to see a corpus let stalker go
You know letting go of the possible wealth and fortune
more surprizing that the stalker didnt take advantage of that to strike them down
Yeah fair enough
after confrence calling the head of the corperation too
Either way, a couple uncharacteristic actions on both sides. Definitely not a Disney Starwars inspired questline
Showing emphtay can ruin your promotion
Also that badguys are suddenly good as long as a baby is involved???
Yeah definitely not
Well I think she was okay with it
Parvos is still after the baby
it was a Sister, not just any Corpus.
Did she even know if the child was stalkers or just "The man is carrying an unknown baby. Im sure it could be for only noble intentions"
I mean how can you assume some guy like stalker has a kid by just looking at him?
motherhood is something that isn't taken lightly by the Sisters i'm sure
Yeah I guessed that
hence the reason why they let him get away
She understood the situation
Id have guessed losing profit for thier boss would have been taken more seriously.
Much less if the child could have been raised by him
from his perspective, he probably didn't want to risk putting his child in any more danger
Also he did get badly hurt in the salvo
And stalker still hunts me after killing bosses
He was limping
and then stalker started being new lotus for his child xd
it might just be a specter of him at this point. similar to how teshin's just a shadowy silhouette now
hiding it on moon
You know what puts him in less danger? One swing to launch a deadly energy projectile into the people who were just shooting at him and have now neatly croweded up in a "please kill us" line
The guy doesn't learn
cuz as of now he's helping us do the ascension missions
Yeah and considering how he goes from someone who was obsessed with revenge to a protector.
Props to jade for carrying the kid for god knows how long
Biggest feat in Warframe in my opinion
for real.
hunhow best granddad 😭
And is still carrying them once rebuilt
nahh fr tho 😭🙏
man, if they had released this before father day, we could have had uncle umbra teaching stalker how to dad
Facts
I doubt a measly calendar will stop fanartists
Hunhow is chili like that
better not be
gimme dem arts
Great fan art honestly
hits even harder when you realize that Hunhow had a child (Natah/The Lotus and Erra) as well, he understands.
Wholesome and cute
Definitely supported
Unlike some other fan arts
Saw some guy draw natruruk as a waifu
he supported Stalker's growth and even let him go afterwards. massive respect.
and then gave his wife to us
I still did not recover
Sharing is caring
i feel bad that he's so lonely now, though.
"I remain, the great and terrible hunhow"
He still got us
cant stop repeating his voice message 😭
Few mil homies
we're not down there with him
We got the capturea scene
we can just nag lotus to go visit her dad every once in a while
"I remain the grandpa and nagging hunhow" is how I interpreted that
dat's just a scene, tho. lad's got no one. v_v
Visit grandpa hunhow that Way
He is in our hearts 
Honestly hunhow would be a great grandpa
he would be. yeah. heck he probably already is one at this point
man i just imagined Stalker visiting Hunhow to show him his child
Got loided
i mean he went from reckless killing machine trying to kill us and look at him now
Just holding up the baby to hunhows window
"hi anyways this is your grandson"
🥲 yeah.
Still funny that he has mountain dew in his veins
yeah. he went from losing everything to gaining something even more precious than what he had lost.
Funniest thing I seen in a while in Warframe
I mean technically we the Tenno are Hunhow’s grandkids, considering the Lotus is a adoptive mother to us.
oh you're right lmao
Lotus is going to take custody of the children
"Stalker, kill the Tenno"
"Ok now apologize to your brother, or imma slap your head with a chancla"
hell yeah, lotus boss fight
i didn't even think about the lotus' reaction to this. she'd probably be really happy to hear wut happened lol
as well as perplexed
Well I think she probably wants to hang out with the kid
"I got a nephew now? we gotta invite stalker over. I'll cook"
this ☝️😭
You know new being and stuff
Hell of family dinner
she'd prolly do everything in her power to protect the child as well lol
ik i would. i was tearing up when stalker was trying to protect the kid from the gunfire 😭😭😭
not even just that bruh i was shouting
i've never been that passionate over any game (or show/movie) in a long time
considering that corpus lady was so quick to stop once she realize what was happening, I think many others gonna do the same
kid gonna have the entire solar system defending it
do we have the locations of the prex cards in the relay?
Grandpa hunhow.mom lotus.uncle stalker.cousin the stalker son (I forget the 2 names) the other grandpa teshin.uncles wife (deceased) jade.moms ex boyfriend ballas
parvos granum better step off, bruh.
Such a lovely family
ascension is literally us bringing food to stalker's kid
Only found 2; Titania and Ember:/
where? 👁️
with parvos trying to stop us
man really think he can stop DoorDash
He works part time hours himself too
makes sense why stalker's also playable in the mode too
battle of the minimum wage workers
With a newfound strength ( he got injected by mountain dew)
Anyways good night peeps
goodnight 👋🌛
Titanias in New Loka and Ember is in Red Veil. I’m pretty sure Protea(I don’t have Protea) is in Steel Meridian because there’s a good hiding spot in there
Jade shadows was WOW just WOW I mean like green stalker went hard and him taking care of jade
ooo ok
it was incredibly moving, wasn't it?
Baby powers
the dad strength coursing through his veins
was just about to say this ☝️😭 the fatherly instincts kicking in (bro will take on the entire world to protect his child)
i have yet to try Mrs. "BE NOT AFRAID" she looks fun
an angelic warframe was inevitable but i wasn't expecting it to be biblically accurate as well lol
I feel bad for Hunhow
Also does stalker still attack you after jade shadows or is he to busy being a dad
He probably does
lore wise, probably not
gameplay wise, yes
He does it with Orius strapped to his back in a baby carrier
Hah lol
They added a whole giving birth minigame
DE wasn't kidding that one devstream when they talked about seeing pregnant warframes in the future huh
When?
I guess i dont understand. How do i progress my clan's participation in the event so I can get the ephemeras?
The ephmeras arent in the clan store tho? Are they not in the normal store?
they're locked for me, even though I had enough
Apparently the ephemeras are tied to community progress rather than clan progress
😕
My best guess is collect as many Volatile Motes as you can
I kinda wish we had a drifter interaction
Nah, Drifter's got enough on their plate over in Duviri
we got a whole month, no rush
been less than a day and we already pass 5%
Just finished the quest. Excuse me what
stalker is a dad now
Will this mean he will never spawn to attack us again ?
no, he still will
gameplay and story are separate
taking care of a child is expensive, he still needs to have a job yknow
Lol
tho it would be funny if on occasion, he does spawn in, but he doesnt attack us, like hes just go shopping or something, and we happen to come across each other
It's sorta like playing missions out of chronological sequence
it would be funny if they just put the baby warframe model on the back of the stalker model when he spawns
he just fights you with his kid on his back
What would happen if he spawns in a mission while you play as Jade
Dirty thing will happen
Could be fun if Jade has the passive to never make Stalker spawn
stalker gets jumpscared and dies everytime he finds a player with jade
That's not how warframes are made.
He actually just leaves, apparently. Funnily enough, if you’re playing in a team with someone as Stalker (talk to Ordis in Larunda relay for that), someone in your team might actually get hunted by Stalker, and then Stalker shows up
stalker vs stalker???
Tenno: wait there are two of you how is this happening
Stalker: Eternalism lmao, ain't gotta explain s**t
/s
eternalism dictates sorren and jade lived a happy life and was never subject to blue man bullshittery
He leaves because bro draws the line at domestic violence
He’s a good husband fr fr
Twice the Sorren
WHAT NAME DO I CHOOSE
whichever you like
Sirius because green.
yea i went with sirius since its like stalker is being reformed and wants to preserve his wifes memory
i feel like most people went with sirius
Apparently his invasions are now voiced instead of the shadowy whispering.
kratos kinda character developement yknow
I went with Sirius because imo it’s the name Jade chose (Orion being the one Stalker chose)
thats cool
exactly
I’ll have Stalker remember i have marks… eventually.
All I know is that Stalker just leaves if Jade is in the squad
Also now that I think about it
stalker never even invades me
Why didn’t Stalker just teleport himself to the Orbiter to kill us?
ehm he did
Like bro, you could do this the whole time but you didn’t??
oh good question lmao
Second Dream doesn’t count
thats literally what he did in war within 😭
Really?
but its probably one of those things like "why didnt gremmy just imagine kenpachi dead"
Wanting more jade backstory with the quest ❌
Wanting a shorter grind for ascension rewards ❌
Wanting more stalker VA lines because Gianni felt criminally underused and unhammy ✅
Been a LONG while since I played War Within
OH SHIH I FORGOR gianni voiced him
I almost don’t want to feed Jade to helminth. But i will. Hopefully Stalker doesn’t find out.
WAIT WHAT
GIANNI VOICES STALKER????
Yeah
Yeah same
you mean
Except I won’t
gabriel ultrakill is now in warframe
Will be forced to sacrifice my Harrow tho
I wanna try Condemn over Jade’s 4
For survivability reasons
Condemn barruk actually kinda slaps
Locks enemies in place to prevent excess ragdoll from serene storm
Shield generation ensures survivability even without elude
So... warframes are breedable u say
No.
No
damn
no , jade was pregnant before being turned in to a warframe
if they were breedable , ballas would probably do it to Khora prime because its ballas
So close to getting Jade
honestly if you had told someone in 2014 that you had to do a childbirth minigame and then play as stalker taking his child through corpus to lua and you get to choose the name of the baby
they would have put you in an asylum LOL
I mean Gremmy couldn't do that kenpachi is far to powerful in his mind
So, what is the new mission type like?
it's pretty fun, lots of mobility and it's kinda timed too
the best way to play it is by scouring the map quickly and keeping the elevator boosted
Any frame recommendations?
the boosted canisters only spawn by the elevator so it promotes keeping up with it
titania, wukong, the usual mobility frames, I like protea a lot for the great defense, energy supply, and turret dps
but hildryn has a huge bug right now so i'm using her
imagine kenpachi is way weaker, imagine him without his sword, then imagine him ded lmfao
Can't do that
Is anybody experiencing this? every time I go into the event mission from larunda relay, it always seems to put me back into my orbiter after, which is very annoying
And it also plays the mission completion screen once when I go back to the orbiter and another when I go back to the relay
First thing Ordis says when he arrives in the Orbiter: "Operator, did you disable the security grid?"
You could say the same thing as to why Grineers and Corpus forces don't directly attack the Orbiter
All in all, the Orbiter is protected with a security grid
I spent like a minute just running in a circle with ordis XD
Heck, even Kuva Liches and Sisters know of the Operator being in the Orbiter but they ain't coming there either
both sides just stare at each other through the window, from inside their spaceships
And I just remembered, the Orbiter has a purging process with Ordis (Seen in The War Within)
Morale of the story: Good luck trying to infiltrate the Orbiter if you aren't a Tenno
i think it's because the stalker is a warframe? we've never had sentient warframes come after us before
There's Excalibur Umbra to a certain extent
well, the stalker invades the orbiter in the second dream, too
Unrelated but it would be nice to have Ordis roam around the Orbiter outside the quest
and our kubrow constantly trying to catch him
Or any other pet in this case
Man when he asks if its the operator umbra or the helminth makes me question if umbra just roams free in ou orbiter/drifter camp
I can't imagine
with legs.
It would have been way cooler if the de facto orbiter the operator uses now post new war was the drifter camp and we had to sneak past kahl's camp, umbra and then ordis
It would be so goofy tho
we leave him in the arsenal to watch tv all days, of course he gonna grow bored
can I ask a Jade quest-ion here?
Yes
wonderful. does the Jade stuff force-use kidmode or did i forget to swap back to Drifter before this quest?
for the quest, you have to use small mode
Force use kidmode
I feel less vaguely Shinji when I'm Drifter.
I wonder how drifter would react
wasnt that big of a thing for me, Operator is cool
Probably stab him first.
"Idk about warframes, let alone about pregnancy"
The childbirth osu minigame was kind of wild
operators fine, i was just caught off guard is all. IIRC ordis being in his sentinel form is usually a Drifter thing tho.
...oh this quest is gonna be interesting interesting.
it is, which was a little weird but i guess its not too strange
need someone to re-draw Loss with stalker
HAH
imagine if they add that as a jade exclusive minigame
Not so much a drifter thing, owldis was just a thing in tnw, drifter didnt cause owldis, he was only around for owldis's advent
Owldis can be seen in the sacrifice already
I think this warframe is a dud for me tbh. I love the seraphim aesthetic, but preggyframe is.. weird pandery? then again I'm firmly no kids so that's maybe why it makes my skin crawl.
thank the gods I'm barren
also, whats the deal with parvos and ordis?
those two bicker like a married couple during ascension
calling him this from now own btw
Parvos likes the myth and ideal of ordan karris. Ordis, who is actually ordan karris in a past life he actually remembers, doesnt like that
4 jades with growing power and power donation is certainly a way to play the game
Pandery? Doubt DE was pandering to the expecting mothers croud, just sounds like a unique idea for a short story
So I’ve just finished the quest and…. Huh? Did a Warframe have a baby with the stalker?
I think their kit sounds sick asf, just need to farm out the other 2 pieces
560% weapon buff 137% strength buff and 60% shield recharge buff
while they were still both human
Im a huge fan of the new frame, design and kit both are sick
Well damn boi
4 jades
Did you say 500%
yeah he shows up, says "Never" and insta dips
could be a me thing. I grew up in the podunks, so the reductive fallacy that woman = barefoot and pregnant was VERY ingrained into me, and it's made me resent the entire process
well, except for the first part of the process. that's quite fun
"TENNO..."
"honey, wheres the kid? did you seriously leave the baby alone at home? or did you bring it with you? dont you dare tell me you brought it here"
I don't see it as being pandery since family has always been a major theme starting from Natah & Second Dream
Fair i guess, i just think DE pulled a theme out of a hat and ran with it. Motherhood is a theme throughout warframe its just a lot more literal here
^^
actually probably the single most central theme to Warframe at this point, well, "at this point", it was the most major theme before Jade Shadows too
motherhood's one thing, yeah. pregnancy and childbirth is... hoo boy. I'm just gonna go with it's the mommyblog-tier barely-humans in my life souring the concept in my mind.
I just got a stalker spawn
Personally, i loved the quest. Pure cinema, beautiful.
Probably my favorite quest post new war
He speaks more clearly now lmao
The old lines were probably really crunchy for one reason or another, now that Gianni gave us some new lines its probably a lot fresher
bite me
lmao
yea but idk why he is still after us
oh faeces he's voiced by Durandal?
I mean, we still need drops
understandable
bloody' goose-stepping 'bot
Gianni Matragrano
he does Gabriel from ultrakill too
yeah, durandal
i wasnt sure who that was so i was specifying
imagine a group mission with jade
the stalker show up and then, you and the rest just stand there awkwardly while jade berating stalker for being irresponsible
Moment from the @MandaloreGaming
video, with the best voice line @Gianni Matragrano
Yea thats him, lmao
does the name matter
?
Sirius or Orion
lmaoo
Dont think so
nod
i named him Sirius cause its a bigger star than orion
I named him sirius cause he green
bud dropped nothing, he was there to remind us that we still enemies
so how bad is this grind?
if you want every rewards, very bad
||If I were in the stalker's place, my beloved and the mother of my child would die, and some tenno would build her in a foundry and use her as a soulless machine or tool, I would go crazy||
bloody hell
take a chill pill babe
I'll be honest, I was caught off-guard. I really didn't know what to do until the line appeared
(sorry for late reply)
that is too bad, because I kind of did want everything. the weapons most of all.
Hi, did the name choice at the end matter or is it like the ying yang choice we are used to make in story quest, just a lore choice with no repercusion and is just for the Immersion of the mission ? I choosed Orion for the wrong reasons and kinda regret it...
All it really means is that, if we do see the baby again, that'll be the name used
well, theres a bug of jade components showing up in dagath hollow, so I hope that that means jade and her weapons will be available in hollow after this
If we ever see it tho
if size: large
idk if it's large
they themselves acknowledge the questions created at the end of the quest in the text
The baby most likely will become a Warframe, just a guess, they'll name it probably with the name that got the most click during the quest ? Could be a cool idea, and since Sirius would probably win, problem solved. 😅
yeah chief imma be real, unless some shenanigans happen, that baby will take thousands of years to grow at a minimum
They can pass time + with Warframe lore, time is literaly something they play with regularly. 😅
true but still
Anyway, will just redo the quest when we can and choose Sirius this time, for my mind sake. 🤣
this also does require them to actually circle back to the baby at some point. Personally I think they will circle back to this at some point, but that's not guaranteed. It is an if.
Do what Fire Emblem did and throw the baby in the void and age it up so it can fight in the war as soon as possible
drifter: "whose baby is this???"
They can't create a Warframe baby and let this evaporate in no other further stuff (lore, gameplay...). 🤣
Jade (human) was already pregnant when she was given the Helminth strain, presumably as a punishment along with Sorren
I'm interested in Jade Prime's trailer in about 4 years time
I also don't understand why it would take the baby that much time to grow to begin with
put it this way, it's been thousands of years since the old war
and Jade has been pregnant for that amount of time
so how long would it take for the baby to grow?
maybe not thousands (probably was, though) but at least hundreds of years since the end of the old war
Wasn’t it because the baby needed stuff to grow properly?
We had to get the Infestation thing for Jade to give birth
Yeah I think it's more than implied that all the bioplasma and infested stuff was going directly to make the baby grow
Which it didn't have where jade was in a frame-coma
Ohhh, yeah, I see, but there is nothing preventing DE from shenanigans explanation for it to grow fast without void shenanigans like it could be because it is imbued with so much energy so he grows fast and dies fast and his imbued with way more power than regular Warframes and so it could be a dex machina character in the next war or whatever, what I mean is the lore can be anything after this really and it's not like everything make sens in Warframe lore/universe, there is a lot of what I call : "shut p it's magic" stuff. 😅
Anyway, can't wait for what will happen 🤣
(There are also the lore and gameplay differences I shall say lol)
Also, idk why people are saying Xeto's actions are out of character for a corpus
Corpus are literally people and I think most people would stop trying to blow someone to pieces with a gun turret and 8 Supra's if they were carrying a baby
Veso being right there
Glast is a corpus deserter, Veso directly defying orders from his superior, the few corpus vibing with Kahl
Its obvious that some corpus aren't the greedy idiots we know
This part was weird to me at first but I though in a second time that it was DE's way to bring "humanity" back to Warframe lore/current lore (present timeline, post New war), something like that.
I like to think it's a sign that slowly but surely the origin system is healing one person at a time
I believe Xeto will probably get kicked out of the sisterhood. But Parvos might be somewhat just a lil proud
And that doing good is a choice we have to make regardless of the consequences
Yeah, exactly !
Also, idk why people are saying Xeto's actions are out of character for a corpus
I mean yes, it is
that one scene was so damn good to me
that's what makes the scene a good and surprising one, that it's out of character for Corpus
Parvos probably hated that decision
oh absolutely
But its a bit of healing
if there is gonna be another war between factions for the baby, I expect that each faction gonna have their own civil war
I don't think it'll get that huge
the one that would be most interested is MITW, Albrecht seems to have been correct that the void is interested in uniqueness and there is no being more unique than that baby aside from perhaps MITW itself
I picked Sirius tho
I picked Orion
Sirius was Jades choice. Just felt that Sorren would want Jades choice
It also fits with the transition from “Hunter”/Red to “Protector”/Green
sirion
siri on
Also btw, just for clarification are corpus humans ? Or are the Ostrons humans ? Or both ? Kinda weird how humans are represented in Warframe if they are. Since it is never mentionned (IIRC), "humanity" in Warframe, to me, eventhough they look human (some corpus not all), I always saw them as human like looking but not actual humans from hearth like us you know. 😅
Yes they’re all human
ALSO in fairness Xeto probably realised that killing Stalker's child would probably mean the end of the corpus itself
It would be the equivalent of Kratos regressing from his new character into gow1-3 Kratos
Imagine if the child is just Reworked Stalker thats Playable
I'd love that
Green stalker duviri skin when
Toddlerframe
It makes sense too
Or a mix between stalky and jade
Im calling the baby Sirius cause i chose it that so
Sirius will be with Stalker most their life. They'll learn moves from Stalker and their own
I chose orion
Sounded better
If Sirius might be playable in the future he might get Stalkers 4 as a move then a Heal+Damage version of Marked
Stalker's kit is basically just Ash but kinda better (without shuriken strip) so I'd hope the kid ends up having a way cooler kit that doesn't legitimately obsolete a warframe
The grogu of warframe
I doubt sirius is going to be playable. Nor will be playable for a long time
Ok, IMHO, we need more lore concerning humanity in this lore, maybe 1999 will help with that. Or it could be just me that want more link towards regular hearth before Warframe Space era (if it existed in Warframe lore).
Kid is probably a year from now
Its a shame that the questline was after Father's day
We don't get to wish Sorren a happy fathers day :c
I mean this is as close to father's day as they could probably get the release lmao
Yeah fair nuff
I just wish in our future warframe releases
The Kid is one of them
And he's pretty much reworked Stalker
If it ever release as playable it should come with some new mechanic/tech DE invented for the game IMHO, so it is really unique. Kinda like Gyre with bounce tech for abilities but even bigger.
Umbra passive
Give it the umbra passive too
Because fun fact i believe the Kid is the only "original" warframe we have thats still alive
Just wanted to ask, in the quest did they imply that stalker is orokin??
Even Umbra i believe isn't "Original" too
They mentioned there being other "gods and Kings" that she could've saved instead. I was wondering if it's implied he is orokin
We rebuilt Umbra so
The kid is the only original warframe thats alive yea
I have yet to understand eventhough I tried multiple times, Umbra difference, what are Warframe in reality. I'm not sure even DE knows sometimes. And with Warframe baby now they kinda changed it again. 😅
The warframe baby already existed with jade iirc so no lore change needed
He’s not Orokin if you mean the caste in the Orokin Empire. He is a Low Guardian, which was a position in the Orokin Empire, but he wasn’t “Orokin” in the sense that Ballas, Nihil, Tuvul or the Grineer Queens were
Ohhhhh
Stalker and seemingly Jade as well were both guards, Low Guardians specifically which isn't quite a Dax but still combat oriented humans
Jade was pregnant pre warframe
Jade turned into a warframe, Baby also got turned into a warframe
Jade Shadows quest
Thats pretty cool
I mean, I'm pretty sure DE knows what warframes are. If youre struggling with understanding what warframes are, what generations are there and what edge cases are there you should ask
Yeah that part I got, just my brain having a hard time processing humans being turned into Warframes and our void kid going into them with void magic and them being semi aware of their existence and yet not being truly alive...
Heres the thing. Our void kid aren't going Into the originals
Except Umbra sorta
The warframes we have are just brainless robots. They're not sentient
Even umbra is a "copy" but he's sentient
He's a weird case.
Possibly because of the curse ballas put on him which gave him one memory and one memory only even through copies? But he's a weird case
Um, we did that to the originals too, we just make copies now because we needed to build more
More likely its because his transference bolt is of a different design
Originally, Warframes are created by infecting a person with the Helminth strain, and then they’re made into a specific Warframe from that, e.g Excalibur or Limbo
Then after that, copies are made of them, presumably not with more humans since we don’t do that when we make copies
Umbra was directly made into an Excalibur frame, but then instead of the usual “Transference Bolt” we use for piloting them and limiting movement, he was given a special one that lets him be aware and move, and the memory of killing his son.
I highly doubt theyre brainless. They appear more to be rendered inert
Or else the main narrative point of the sacrifice immediately falls flat on its face
I usually call them braindead but that's really only cause it's easy to say and still gets the point across. They're more... suppressed
Ya
They're just not "alive"
As demonstrated when building umbra, our foundry can still build them back to how the "original" were
Theyre as much "alive" as the original
But don't they imply the original frames are sentient with their unique own lore stories ? Like Yareli saving the vent kids, was this a tenno inside her ?
Another horrible thing to add to ballas's horrors count
Tenno for yareli
it's also never clear on purpose if those are teno stories or the orignals
I don't think there is tenno in the warframes in some storylines
Tenno stories
If I'm not mistaken, weren't the earlier warframes like umbra sentient, and later on they became empty puppets?
Pretty sure it differs, like I think Octavia wasn't a tenno controlled warframe
Every leverian is a tenno story save for dante's
Chroma
Octavia would be a tenno controlled frame
Lavos? Doesn't seem to be tenno controlled in his story
octavia was controlled by chroma?
Chroma was controlled by No one
The two warframes that we know 100% were not controlled, other than Umbra, are Dagath and Kullervo. Maybe Dante but not necessarily.
Chroma in the new strange was controlled by something else, but by that measure we know that chroma was built to be controlled like other gen 2 frames
Swap dante and dagath around
To the best of my understanding, their is a lack of details either on purpose (so they can have more freedom for the futur) or because DE kinda got lost because of some stuff that says the opposite like Umbra.
You sure? I really doubt Dagath was controlled after killing those Orokin and riding about doing her own thing.
I believe the original warframes don't have tenno controlling them in their story?
Dante and kullervo are extremely heavily implied if not confirmed to be gen 1 tenno-less frames.
Dagath has room to be a gen 2 frame
All leverians are tenno stories. Drusus just cant tell that theres a kid piloting them because of dante
Aren't they pretty explicit about converting Dagath, then blowing her head off.
yeah that's why I'm pretty sure she wasn't controlled, the story we're given is that she was turned into a frame, got her face blasted off, killed those Orokin and then rode about doing her own thing
Pretty sure she wasn't controlled during that last part
she still needs a pumpkin helmet imho
See... I mean DE could bring more and clearer lore for one of the main aspect of the licence. 😂 Not like every complicated lore as to be simplified but as much as I love this game, the lore is complicated and not for the good reason IMHO...
Theres decent room for her to have been built a gen 2 frame, and then severe head trauma results in something wrong with the transference bolt.
Iirc she was "inert" after she was turned into a frame
But regardless, dagath is one of the edgiest (pun intended) of cases of warframe typing.
Every other frame except for kullervo, dante, umbra very likely had a tenno piloting them.
yes, according to Grandma's story, which I don't think we have any particular reasons to disbelieve, she was inert after becoming a Warframe and just kinda did whatever the Orokin told her but recovered her memories of what happened after her face was blasted off and then killed the Orokin and rode about doing her own thing.
unless I misremember something
The inert part makes me believe shes gen 2. If she was gen 1 she wouldnt be inert
Also when DE introduced their concept of Multiverse was a clear sign IMHO that even them got lost and needed the joker card they could go back to explain later on some weird cases of weird lore not making sense.
Except theyve never played that card like that lmao
Not yet
So basically youve made an unfounded claim
well then she could have started off inert and then ended up... gaining sentience? Again, no way a Tenno was piloting her when Grandma met Dagath.
Thats basically what youve done
Yes hence why I said severe head trauma results in transference bolt going wrong
Like we talking a big hole in the face
For the briefest of moments dagath got her autonomy back
It was/is an opinion lol, I didn't said it was true and they made it. Just seemedweird to me this introduction of such concept exactly when players required more lore after years of nothing.
And then robbed a grandma for a name
Well we're not really disagreeing then, though I'm still not fully convinced she had a Tenno before being blasted either, at the end of the day, she is a Warframe we can say was around doing her own thing for a significant amount of time with no Tenno.
Oh nah I agree with you there. I think she was tenno-compatible, just was never equipped with one hence her being inert
yeah ok we don't disagree then
@obtuse gyro Also there is world where even using "it's multiverse bs" is a good choice and is acceptable in terms of lore and story telling.
The only gen 1 frames we actually have are kullervo and dante (and one proto-rhino and not in the 1999 protoframe sense)
either way, Dagath, Kullervo, Umbra and Dante are the 4 Warframes we know of that were, as far as we know, never piloted by a Tenno/not piloted by a tenno for significant period of time, even if they were made to be piloted by Tenno in the case of Dagath and Umbra
there we go
For clarity even umbra was built to have tenno control, this is something ballas taunts umbra with
Ok, so they are a thing, thanks
Yeah thanks for the correction
"Ha ha surrogate for tenno loser"
To "damn i made a mistake"
"Ow my pancreas"
Emphasis on the "we know of" part, based on what Ballas says, about how they set them upon the battlefield before they turned on them, there was a time when most Warframes were running about doing their own thing and not going feral
Also going off my gut I think the Limbo that was scattered didn’t have a Teno.
He might have had one. He just made a bad calc and blew himself up
Maybe yes, maybe no.
There could have been a kid there too
There's nothing 100% swinging it either way
Hence the default assumption of "had a tenno"
yeah not having one is rarer than having one afterall
DE was right at the end of the new quest, baby frame only bringed more questions and less answers. 🤣
Tbh baby just means we get a future warframe to use
Yea its like out of currently 57 or 58 unique frame types, only 4 of them had no tenno, and only 2 were built without tenno
That has been standard procedure ever since Second Dream, but this time, they acknowledged it in game
Also my headcanon is that the Operator has the blueprint. Made jade but doesn't use her
It's really part of the charm of the lore by now
Which made me laugh 😊
They connect more and more with the community, the new suggested fashion for frame is also a sign of it.
Which is also what makes Warframe a different game, in a good way, from others, especially, free to play ones.
Also perhaps we get the baby next year
And this is the only thing that matters, really. 😀😅
Baby frame series of frames
We’re gonna come back form 1999 with a massive time skip and grown up Orion
Btw, what letters are left until the alphabet of frames?
I picked Sirius.. am i the only one that did thst
Picked sirius too
1999 could be multiverse stuff, could it not ?
Sirius just makes sense to me storywise
We gonna get back from 1999 to 3999
There is one left, can't remember the one though
If its what jade would have picked which is what the Green aura around it is signifying i believe sorren would have wanted it
Could but I also don’t think there’s a difference between multiverse and time travel with how externalism works
Now that i think about it, isn`t the baby half infested half human?
Yeah but it’s Warframe infested not like infested infested
Used multiverse word since I didn't knew how it was called in English (ain't English native speaker). But it is the same word, I just checked, just an "e" missing from my language.
frame with it`s own mind
Wonder what name they'd actually pick
Is it popularity vote on Sirius vs Orion?
I’d assume it’s gonna be both
Idk lorewise I'd say sirius. Maybe sorren knows jade would pick it
Eternalism rahhh
Depending on what the player chose
Imagine we gonna get sirius as warframe as companion
Frame of War
Ewww, flying space robot baby, flying arround us like an Helios sentinel
I'm talking about this from a MECHANICAL standpoint
Dadframe?
Get the lore outta here! I'm talking about the cold hard government name that the game uses to detail everything. Your progenitors, your squad checks, your loadouts, etc.
Is it gonna be Sirius or Orion?

Likely the same as what your lotus name is post tnw
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but those karmic wheels they did for the last few quests also don't do anything.
those just show your choice
"ying yang " choices have been part of this game for years in story quest, and at the end, they are "meaningless" choices lol.
Lotus is sorta... local. People can see your frame and their stats on your profile.
It might end up being that the babyframe becomes a deuteragonist...
I see the choices as immersion ones, they are based on emotions on the moment during the quest, and outside it, it doesn't really matter
They just show your perspective with how you wanna do that thing
Jade shadow show us the orokin massacre wasn't just justified but they didn't go far enough.
But since they have no real impact, they could be deleted to be honest
Gonna be real though. I didn't wanna name them Sirius after Sirius Black...
what if you replay the second dream with jade
Also, Ballas is a level of amoral that is borderline cartoonish.
It's most likely gonna be forced to be the same. Just like Umbra
Having a fake choice is kinda worse than having none Imho.
I think I really missed when they unveiled Jade during the stream.
Thats what Im thinking baby stalker might be a local only thing
Cauae the quest did punch me - not the best choice of words.
After Jade Shadows I don't really understand Stalker's hatred of us anymore
Idk.
Or they could let this fake choices so community talks about it. 👀🫰🏻
I think canonically stalker doesn't hunt us down anymore
He has a kid to protect he ain't doing anything to us
Like Sorren refuses to turn on the people who infected his pregnant wife and turns her into a Warframe.
Oh right did anyone scan the third stalker now?
Might call him Enlightened Stalker after the Scythe skin
He does, there is a unique interaction if your playing as jade so his still hunting.
Maybe just a non canon interaction? What does he say
"Never" and then despawns while dropping some items
Bro just said "nuhuh" leaves
You can see he barely gets damaged, and his face is also green
his loot just dropped in a corner where I assume he spawned
We got a peak stalker farm
Just play jade and sit in a mission he'll drop his stuff and leave
Being made into a Warframe pokes a few holes in your brain. He has the hate emotion but no reason for it
Oh right, I wanted to ask, Jade's 4... is that actually tied to alt fire or just the firing button?
Cause... my alt fire is damaged.
Im thinking he hates warframes still because a part of him deep down remembers that thats what they did to jade
New Sentinel that’s just a floating cradle with Orius in it
Baby yoda
Hunhow has been trying to help him get over it.
baby yoda style
The Great and Terrible Therapist Hunhow
That's what makes zero sense to me. For some reason the Stalker hated us for murdering the Orokin to the point that he even teamed up with their enemies, the Sentients. I just don't get why he had any loyalty to the Orokin and why he hunted us for killing them.
Hate is a helluva emotion
Maybe because he believes the orokin can "save" her?
No he's just blinded by revenge and hate.
Or the orokin has the tools to do so
And could be false hope with the orokin has the tools blah blah
Stalker is not even sane is he
Canonically he isn't
Thought so
Anyway, you think Stalker's hiding on Lua now?
No one is, in every universe/realities... 🤐
He's not on Uranus now. Which sucks but his hideout is so cool so I don't mind it.
He doesn’t even really understand what Jade is until the flashback, he’s that gone
He's voice acted by Gianni ofcourse he's mentally unstable smh
Can’t wait for the new Stalker’s home mode where everything is babyproofed
Mentally unstable dad gets child hmmm
Don't doubt it.
There's a battalyst by the socket
Hate is hanged on a high wall
Along with his weapons they're all just hanged on a high wall with sheaths
New quest : visit Stalker and gift him sth
And Hunhow's War sword has been turned into a cradle
Well... can't wait for the videos to roll out.
There’s a tiny mimic toy for Orius to play with
I almost misread that. Almost.
Its a tiny war
No duh, it's a tiny sentient rattle
The acolytes baby sit
Is Stalker now Space dad ? Like Lotus is space mom in a different way.
Collab time
Space Dad is Stalker ye
Space Grandpa is hunhow
Family therapist and grandpa same time
😂
Hunhow talking about the past to sirius
Yo is the ascension drop table bugged
I think what even broke me into hysterics was finishing the quest, and then seeing a jade in the relay doing her animation set. Don't remember if it was agile or noble. I think noble
I’m only getting endo
Oh wait it might be the acolytes who take over for stalker
I completely forgot about them
Space baby is taking his part of the loot.
It could be bugged. It's day 2 of a new update, bugs there will be. 😅🤐
I wouldn’t be surprised if Parvos Granum´s takeover of the Leverian and him trying to seize Jade’s motes are actually connected
Tenno is Space Child, Lotus Space mom, Stalker Space Dad, Sirius/Orion Space Brother, Hunhow Space Grandpa and Therapist
I feel like the tenno needs to sneak in a baby's first wooden sword. Though I do wonder what happen to Xeto, would love to see more of her
Now this needs fanart bruh
Stalker getting angry and giving baby the war
Xeto is so cool I hope she gets fired for her failure and leads a corpus revolution
The newest war
This ! DE ! Please ! ❤️
Thank god i got the Jade Dagath parts
“Back in my day they didn’t have these new-fangled amps.”
So i built jade parts day 1
I think Xeto has been adopted by the community at this point
Yes
Goo goo gaa gaa
Xeto Space Sister
I saw posting about that and didn’t realize it was real until it was fixed
Incredibilis ! 🤣
Aunty Xeto
Teshin is Space Uncle?
Yeah space sister could be Ordis. 🤐
Anyway
The Great Grandpa and Terrible Therapist Hunhow
IT`s funny how both space mom and dad have connection to hunhow
What about the acolytes
Space in-laws
his erra was finished long ago
You're way to good at this, scary. 🤣
Erra was GOATED though
What if Varzia is Space Aunt
We need the space family tree
Also Praghasa! Space Grandma
I need a Space family glyph and display at this point... 👀🫰🏻
Praghasa married to hunhow
Everybody is posing and theres stalker in the far right with his baby just blankly staring
Yes ! Take my money ! 😅
They could make a serie like, space family at christmas, new year, easter eggs hunt etc.
Space family at the beach, Space family in the forest.
Gosh... So many possibilities
Sitcom
Now let’s add Albrecht and the Cavia! :D
Infinite money machine making for DE
Your welcome DE, community just solved money problem. 👍🏻
I’d see Fibonacci as that one weird uncle to Sorren’s child
Albrect Space Uncle on our 2nd adoptive mother side
Can you imagine the family portrait. All these creatures and poor Xeto going "what did I get into"
Cavia the family pets
Speaking family pets
Clem kahl and the brothers
The brotherhood in the hood
Next we got Darvo and Ki’Teer
Where does Nihil fit in
In his glass prison
Oh cool DE got Neil Newbon for the latest content patch, is he voicing yet annother sassy white haired man? Nope, he’s this werid fish someone found.
the pet uncle
The cephalons?
Oh! Nora telling stories to the space baby
house cleaners
Bro from this we gonna get a whole season of material lmao
DE better get ready to do an animated sitcom
Ok but now I’m imagining the Cavia finding new meaning taking care of the baby and have a silly grin on my face
So what is the description of cortichrome ?
The two coworkers of space space uncle
Space uncle`s uncles coworkers lmao
this thing started from just a kid appearing LMAO
Jordas is the one uncle that isn’t allowed around the family anymore, Simaris is the workaholic family friend, Ordis is the butler that used to be a Marine, Cy is the relative in Navy, and Octavia is the soundclound musician aunt or cousin
There’s 2 others but the family forgot them like we have
imagine this get`s a cinematic side quest
It's also unexpected that the corpus know that a warframe need a cortichrome, maybe it imply that Alad V actually sold a lot of warframe and they got dissected.
Which is how they are able to create specific machine that can disrupt the warframe 😮 (Valkyr prime trailer)
Oh true.
I haven't gotten any of the part drops yet though, are those items vital for Jade's construction?
They're only a currency
Also fun that we're seeing more corpus in the story missions. In general.
Yk, the name sirius & Orion make me think that given that this new "lifeform" exist now.
It could be a future superboss lmao
Idk it really felt like a superboss name
i kinda want to fight that baby
Okay I know I've said it 20 times,
We fightin babies?
But this babyframe really is Steven Quartz-Diamond Universe
No... We raising babies.
We gonna be gooood parents for the baby sorren will aprove it lol
It really isnt
Protecc the baby from the Indifference
the avengers style war against the indifference
Agreed!
I bet it will absolutely want the child if/when it finds out about it
It could just mean that Alad sold or published the data he got from his Warframe research
Could even just be because they know about it from Infested research and know that Warframes are infested
So no throw hands
Dont touch the baby.
We will teach him the best thing we do.
Okay
How to commit several numbers of warcrimes :3
GG
Tbf i really felt like you wouldn't think that the warframe is infested apart if you somehow retrieved ballas's note on the infested
So i feel like they could just know it from alad V's research and it make sense lol
Yo imagine as your fighting the stalker now. Before fight or even mid fight, he showing you pictures or talk about his child xD
... Jade may hold the record for the longest pregnancy. She pulled a Portgas d. Rouge kept her baby safe for so long until it killed her.
"Look at my infested kid"
So Sirius/Orion is a future frame, right? The son of Stalker... What are the implications of a baby frame though? He wouldn't have the transference bolt. Also, how are the infected hive minds reacting to this?
hybrid like the protoframes?
Also, Ordis cleared up that Umbra does in fact roam the ship.
Do you think we put out a silver alert if he wanders out into drifters camp?
He's a baby. We know several frames kept their intelligence. The baby has no memories of being human he's only been a frame for all he knows.
Definitely. He's just as dangerous as the stalker if not more so.
Just like make sure he’s only ever got a Plinx on him. It’ll be fine
We keep him in check.
Man
I cried yesterday
I cried today
Quest was so good
Quest good
So warframes can give birth as long as they get pregnant before being turned into warframes although the pregnancy kills the mother
Basically
Jade and sorren are the successful experiments of umbra (our lil theory)
Umbra was a prototype, so jade and sorren were the successful results of this experiment
The stalker and Umbra are practically the same character the difference is:
Stalker: Vegeta
Umbra: Kratos
Speaking of Vegeta, my adventures with Superman is really good
Eh...
I will say good on de for keeping Jade's belly hidden
Like all of our theories were wrong af.
When they first revealed this quest, I was expecting Jade to be like, the anti-Stalker
I couldn't have been more wrong
It's stalkers morals as a character the thing that keeps him going and now it's his son that keeps him going
bruh when we use jade and stalker spawn he will immedetialy run
He's sad
he didn't want to fight his wife
Experiments of umbra?
Umbra is no prototype lmao
Umbra was made late enough into the old war that he caught ballas trying to sneak info to hunhow
From*
yea i dont think umbras a prototype, he was just made specifically to be tortured with the memory of him killing his son because.. ballas
^
we know some "regular" warframes like kullervo and dagath retained some degree of consciousness, stalker is a low guard (whatever that means) and jade is a full warframe who i assume is like kullervo and dagath
So now that stalker got a child to look after
Will he quit being the stalker ? Or we will get new mission to babysit Orion while he finish his part time job hunting some fellow tennos
Fellow? Nah.
But hunting warframes? He's still at it, unless you bring Jade
Hunhow does say he's fled, I think canonically he stopped for now but gameplay wise he's still at it
Ofc he would be afriad of his wife 😂
Universal rule
i really hope we get future quests expanding upon him and his child tho
There is gameplay-lore segregation at parts of Warframe, even if that line gets very blurry or sometimes straight up doesn't exist, it would make sense for this to be one of the cases where it still exists
yes and if someone asks how there's gameplay-lore segregation just say eternalism
we got green stalker now?
No we got a green baby
Which led to a green stalker
Which led to a green Hate
yes i think the operator felt the pain of jade during birth 💀
ngl the rhythm labor game caught me off guard
honestly the corpus stepping aside once they realized there was a child in stalker's hand was really touching
like at least they have some part of their sanity
I was so mesmerized by the dialogue that I didn't really pay attention that it was contractions
i hope we see more of Xeto
she’s not becoming a sister, that’s for sure
WAIT WHAT?
That's what the mini game was apparently 😭
oh you have got to be joking don't make me pick stuff, i take hours deciding these type of things
if u hover over them one is green and the other is red
i assume sirius is what jade wanted and orion is what sorren wanted
sirius is pure dad joke material, i'll pick that
also fun fact ordis talks to u differently if you have jade picked
orion better
Yeah, you can't be that Sirius about naming a child
So we all agree that the baby is a he right
yes sirius and orion sound like male names
i mean, yeah
Should we send some baby formula to the stalker or what the hell do warframes eat
hunhow: “the shadow fled”
yeah i wonder why he wouldn’t want to raise a kid in a cave with a genocide giant robot
oh the quest ends moment you pick a name?, aw man
doesnt even have to be a timeskip you could just say the infestation randomly adapted and made him a full warframe in a few minutes
Gonna be kinda weird maybe being able to play as stalkers kid
i wanted to see some more dialogue
I wouldn't call Sentients robots
eh, potato, potato
Hunhow had an epiphany after New War and isn't genocidal anymore
he’s definitely not as bad anymore
still, he remains Hunhow the destroyer
He even revived a warframe for absolutely no reason when he could've just ignored her (yareli)
Kinda regretful sounding
wait what
its yareli's deluxe
oooh
got some lore
He’s the fun kind of evil
Also the retired kind mostly
neat!
we’re gonna have to visit grandpa more often now that his roommate left
Grandpa hunhun
i also liked the confirmation that umbra just roams around the orbiter from time to time
Sounds kinda tsun gramps to me
same with helminth, i wonder how that works tho
i thought helminth was just a stationary room
tendrils tendriling about
i imagine ordis fights with it so it doesn’t expand to the entire orbiter
Ordis's new lines right now while he is vibing at Mercury
does anywhere in the quest imply that ordis has history with jade?
he talks really differently to her if you equip her and talk to him in the relay
tone especially
Sounds more like an understanding of Jade's plight combined with what he learned from Umbra
Ordis: Helminth keep ur damned tentacles inside * shooting beams at helminth parts *
Helminth: the demon servant won't stop us
Love the Gianni Stalker/Serren voice
GIANNI IS STALKER?
Yeah
Yup
damn
Ah
I will rephrase that
i wonder if we'll get a future continuation of stalker's story, i really enjoy playing him
Sirius
please hurry, I am doing the quest
Sirius IMO
i hope so
orion all the way
they most likely will tbh
It’s what Jade wanted apparently and it fits Stalker’s transition from Red/Hunter to Green/Protector
already did sirius
Ayyy another Orion
orion sounds better but i chose sirius to honor jade
wow, jade shadows was really easy
it ended twice as early as i expected
is it just me or stalker’s weapons were dealing massive damage?
really sad that Stalker, all this time, until the events of the quest, forgot who Jade was due to being turned into a Warframe. Like Hunhow says, "unknown slaughterer"
they were dealing massive damage indeed
it’s just neat
Would be messed up if you had jade on in a squad where one guy didnt have the quest complete, and regular stalker spawns
stalker gets defeated by a void demon child wearing a taxidermied copy of his late wife complete with pregnant belly 💀
His passive is that he has more crit damage/chance when unseen
I think it’s to represent how powerful he is, as opposed to how we’re usually constrained by game balance
Also that yeah
So if you’ve been spamming invisibility, yeah he’s gonna hurt a lot
💀
well at least he knows now.
Stalker invis also let's him walk through lasers
