spoiler-chat

[woeful patio]

Our copy also talked about a contract, but this deal was never mentioned or talked about and it seems to be rlly pissed off whem we broke the deal

What was our deal after all? It dont seems to be only to make the whole kids from zariman powerfull

[nova harness]

We will probably find out

There was probably a secret fine print

[graceful zodiac]

His memory isn't in the grimoire?

[woeful patio]

Is on the pages

But the pages seem to be missing

Since we find one of the pages

[graceful zodiac]

Yes, the last page was torn out and hidden, which is what is read out loud at the end

[woeful patio]

Also.. finding this mage made the copy extremely worried and desperate??? I think it was only me who noticed it

[graceful zodiac]

Wally wasn't worried, he's just doing his usual shtick

[woeful patio]

But it was weird, like it seemed like he rlly rlly wanted the page

He even added it to our deal

And whem we refused he literally made a hole on sanctum

[graceful zodiac]

Oh, he did. Without it we can't stop him encroaching into the Lab'

[nova harness]

The Indifference undeterred

[graceful zodiac]

Wally was gonna raid the lab anyhow

[nova harness]

We end as we began

[woeful patio]

But the problem is i think we are not dealing with 1 of this entities, it was 2 of them talking with eachother like 2 buds

[scarlet basalt]

i wonder why the hell albretch joined wally

[graceful zodiac]

Yes, Wally and Albrecht

Wally and a corrupted Albrecht, maybe

[nova harness]

It’s not Albrecht maybe

[woeful patio]

As how i said i think wally, void albratech and our copy are complete different entities from wally

This is my theory bc albratech saw a person exactly like him, but without voice and eyes

[scarlet basalt]

Smilar to new war end scene where we see a mimic and MITW in person ?
Like the same that copy ourselves on sanctum anatomica bounty ?

[next zealot]

He seemed more just annoyed that we are avoiding our part in the deal

[graceful zodiac]

No, Wally is all the same person throughout

[woeful patio]

What was our deal?? On our memories just showed the end of our deal

[graceful zodiac]

The Wally we see is the same Wally Albrecht saw

[woeful patio]

But different bodies ... Liiike a hive mind?

[graceful zodiac]

Not different bodies

[nova harness]

When Albrecht saw Wally he saw Albrecht

[next zealot]

Either we don't know yet or there was no specific terms, because he tried to make getting the page our half of the deal

[scarlet basalt]

Tbf more like corrupted ennemies, maybe he learnt from sentries how to do that idk

[atomic lantern]

Ok it's December 14 now how do I crosssave?

[woeful patio]

Albratech saw a version of his self on void on new war mission it saw many versions of us, the one that died in different ways, from duviri and the drifter on orogin world

[nova harness]

Are you a founder?

[atomic lantern]

No

[graceful zodiac]

That was just the effect from the deal

[nova harness]

Then not yet for you

[atomic lantern]

I started in like 2019

[graceful zodiac]

And separate from seing Wally

[atomic lantern]

When do I get cross-save then

[nova harness]

Slowly

You

[atomic lantern]

I need answers

[hollow totem]

i see, what does it look like when it is unactivated yet

[nova harness]

https://www.warframe.com/news/cross-platform-save

[supple dagger]

A floating whispering book

[hollow totem]

oh it still book ok

[supple dagger]

It’s pretty obvious to see and Tagfer even tells you when you’re near it

[hollow totem]

thought you have to hack computer

[supple dagger]

No thats for being able to use Nechramechs in missions

[hollow totem]

but not all of them summons necramech

[woeful patio]

My conclusion is, albratech has knowledge of a far superior technology using the void something that scare wally, what it seems that out copies are not something physical, only visual that's why wally made this deal with us and ask to us just to pick the page for them, in the end albratech got worried that wally use the people around him to make this all, whem wally plans didnt succeed as how he imagined he got angry we can see this in game whem he got way more aggressive and violent with the lab making a time hole on lab, wich it also means he is desperate for this pages

[graceful zodiac]

Wally was attacking the lab either way, the page didn't make him that much angry

[woeful patio]

But whem we got the page he rlly break in the lab, dat means he could do dat along time ago but he dont wanted

[graceful zodiac]

He couldn't do it before, the Kalymos sequence handn't been triggered

[woeful patio]

I think the lab is not his goal, but the pages and the book

[atomic lantern]

What even is the kalymos sequence

[woeful patio]

I think its something related to thr giant humanoid things we saw all around

[atomic lantern]

And I thought the animals were telling the man in the wall what they were doing in the lab? Why did albrech want them alive then?

[north trail]

basically albrecht's plan

[woeful patio]

Bc he probably could know what they was doing them he could do the opposite

[north trail]

the whole quest is us following the kalymos sequence

[atomic lantern]

What is albrechs goal? I thought he and wally were the same but it seems they are quarreling

[woeful patio]

Bro they are not?

[graceful zodiac]

The Kalymos Sequence is Albrecht's plan and making a defense against Wally

Potentially leading to their total defeat

[woeful patio]

On game say he saw a different person like him a entity from void

[atomic lantern]

Ohhh

[north trail]

they aren't, the "evil" albrecht is a doppelganger (like how wally often appears in the form of our operator)

[atomic lantern]

Doppelganger of albrech or the operator?

[graceful zodiac]

They always were. Albrecht is against Wally, which is why the ending cutscene is interesting

[north trail]

probably still not the real albrecht

[woeful patio]

The doppleganger lives but the original one still alive??

[graceful zodiac]

Wally and Albrecht are playing a massively cosmic game of chess with each other

[hollow totem]

is it worth to do SP on crystal defend reward? deimos

[woeful patio]

Komi. Dat is why on void this game can be see everywhere

Bro, like

[atomic lantern]

And it seemed like Albrecht made the operators or at least predicted them by the way he included it in the instructions, or Maybe that happened earlier

[woeful patio]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[graceful zodiac]

It likely is actually Albrecht. The question is why he was there

[woeful patio]

Is he even alive??

[graceful zodiac]

Albrecht was using Operator in general sense. It's mostly coincidence

[woeful patio]

I think its because we are the only that can use the void for our goals

And also manipulate the void too something they cant

We are basically the most important piece on the game and wally know dat

[north trail]

albrecht had predicted (prophecised?) a "chosen operator" (probably for the vessels)

read the lore on his computer

[atomic lantern]

What are the murmurs?

[woeful patio]

Attempts of the void copying the origin system

[atomic lantern]

Oh yea I forgot about that. I should read it

[woeful patio]

A murmur of our dimmension

[north trail]

speaking of that, is the "we" in those lore entires the cavia?

[atomic lantern]

The animals

[graceful zodiac]

Pieces of Wally that he's using as an infantry force

[woeful patio]

Like komi pieces

We always end up destroyig a whole army

[atomic lantern]

Ok last thing, why do the animals speak in the murmur words?

[north trail]

that would imply THEY started the kalymos sequence

[woeful patio]

I think its the things on ttheir bodies that allow them to speak

[north trail]

their whole consciousness comes from the void

[woeful patio]

Or its transference since we can see this metal pieces ob their bodies

[graceful zodiac]

They speak in Requiem words because they've been void touched

[north trail]

it's called voidtongue

[graceful zodiac]

Then they speak English because of the Statue we make

[woeful patio]

Victims of continuity ritual?

[graceful zodiac]

No, they're just animals

[woeful patio]

Use helios

[graceful zodiac]

You mean Duviri?

[woeful patio]

It help on mission

[north trail]

they were sent into the void in an experiment

[graceful zodiac]

Or the Mumur boss

[woeful patio]

Ok sooo they send the big forehead fish, a weird kavat a d a big fat bird just as a experiment?

[north trail]

btw about the pages, patch notes say they "may" leave behind albrecht's notes

I've only found that once and it dropped an arcane for me

[woeful patio]

Ok ladies and gentlemen, we are cleaning the whole lab

[supple dagger]

Oh yea those pages talk about what happened next after Albrechts journey into the Void

I’ve found all of them already and its really worth it

[woeful patio]

We can maybe have a goal what is albratech plan

Maybe??

[supple dagger]

No comment

[prime lantern]

To be an honest demon

Wether the albretch we know now is possessed by wally or acting of his own accord we don't know

Though we have a theory as to what wallys motive is

[woeful patio]

But he is inside of the coffin, broken and he got purple eyes same as our copy, this make no sense bc dat would mean we are also possessed

[graceful zodiac]

He's not inside the coffin, that was just some kind of transport

[woeful patio]

The coffin is exactly the sane we find loid in

[graceful zodiac]

Yes, his was some kind stasis

Albrecht's was some form of transport to get to 1999

We'll have to go back then and find him now

[supple dagger]

Albrecht is such a cool character

[north trail]

I'm wondering about the albtecht we saw in the video

[woeful patio]

Was rlly albratech or wally finding a new komi piece able to take us down?

[north trail]

his eyes were off

[woeful patio]

Exactly this is my point

It was not albratech it was wally

Our albratech still on lab, locked somewhere

Safe from wally

[amber terrace]

Does anyone know how they would get their hands on this mod? Another question: because it had multishot and Archguns are in desperate need of multishot, is this an option for building archguns?

[graceful zodiac]

No, Albrecht is in 1999, that's explicit from his appearance and the message we got from the Transference buffer

[woeful patio]

Well dont wanna say it out loud but his smile was not...normal.

[graceful zodiac]

It wasn't, and Loid notes that

It's why he thinks Wally got to him

[rain otter]

I mean in the quest Loid litearlly sees that and says "oh the MITW follow him and got to him"

[heavy marten]

All Albrecht Entrati New Records Here ^^ https://youtu.be/nmfz78IZSN4

[formal karma]

What a weird quest. Once again throwing in random ideas and being strange with the lore. Strange/weird ≠ good

[low badger]

Are there any secrets in the diaries like how there was with Ordis?

[heavy marten]

Looks like more secrets have in this dlc still looking xD

Few Easter eggs in that video two shows new york times square like people calabration something

[low badger]

We were able to use our Gear in that? Damn, I missed the chance to scan those

[rain otter]

Oh if you turn around where you start in the 1999 part and then crouch and go under a Infested thing you can see The MITW at the back staring at you.

[rain otter]

Also these Are all ads that played during tennocon btw.

Fake ads*

[low badger]

It's advertising things from 1999. Much like how the song they use for it is Into the Void by Nine Inch Nails, from 1999

[heavy marten]

maybe maybe not who knows xD

[rain otter]

No but like

Did you see them? Cuz they where all messed up. Like one of them is a farmer saying to use The Kaith in Duviri.

[low badger]

No, I didn't look at them too closely. I saw it was mostly the new language and didn't pay much more attention when I played through it

[heavy marten]

I belive Albrecht says you are late because we are not strong enough looks like we missing somethings.. for now in next update we play the scene again and not hear this words i suppose so

The Infesteds Still playing another big role here even other timeliens to

[merry fog]

I avoided spoilers (kept on forgetting to watch devstreams) so I just played the quest, so my question is...
Did Loidest of Loids just sent on quest across some void fuckery to retrieve his lover letter and now I'm pushover for bird, fish and a depressed goat?

[rain otter]

Cat.

[merry fog]

has hooves so goat

[rain otter]

Cat.

[merry fog]

Goat.

[rain otter]

But not a pushover but you are all getting ready for when its time to go back in time to 1999 and help Albretch and repairing the time machine and everything.

[heavy marten]

Dog xD

[merry fog]

and did they implemented the Proto Warframe just for the giggles

and this single mission

[steady gate]

Cervulite
Cervine
Deer

[low badger]

Cervulite
Cervix
P***y
Cat.

Sometimes, words are just words

[merry fog]

fucken DONKEY!!!!!!!!

[heavy marten]

lol i want to say lol

[rain otter]

Albretch seemed to still be in the System for the Old War.

Based on our new knowledge.

Cuz Loid Fixed his Eyes And Speech and stuff.

Also Loid and Albretch are super gay.

Which good for them.

[heavy marten]

metrosexual xd

[rain otter]

No?

Literally untrue. They Literally talk about love and loving each other.

Loid even says "it's better to love and lost then never to have loved at all"

I don't understand how you don't understand.

[merry fog]

I just want to know which writer got horny during writing of the story

[rain otter]

What?

[heavy marten]

lmao

[rain otter]

Do you think everything gay is horny? Is everything that is a man and woman together horny?

[merry fog]

whole purpose of this story was to retrieve the gay that makes Loird gay

[prime lantern]

What

[merry fog]

and I won't let any logic correct my misinterpretation

[rain otter]

Like I get it if you wanna say that for like the Dax bi lady and maybe Dagaths evil bi Poly couple but don't but love isn't horny

[formal karma]

I wanted a mech fight and instead got.. that yikers

[rain otter]

You know that right? Like you wouldn't call a straight love story horny right?

[merry fog]

depends how horny it would be

[rain otter]

Like do you watch a hallmark movie where the girl ends up with the guy a horny moive?

[formal karma]

I love their sound design and visuals but their lore and story writing has been bad for years.

[rain otter]

Booo

Your wrong booo.

[prime lantern]

On a level I can agree with him

Whilst I wouldn't blanket statement it as bad

[formal karma]

It's weird writing for the sake of being weird

[prime lantern]

There is much to be desired

[rain otter]

Boooo

[merry fog]

I wanted to fight with titans instead I got blue balled

[prime lantern]

I don't agree with that

[heavy marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Lj8jbr5SI

never say never

[rain otter]

This was funny.

Just a bloodborn boss.

As a warframe.

(A Lotta bloodborn bosses are based around pregnancy if you didn't know that now you know)

[formal karma]

Fashion, gameplay, and sunk cost fallacy is what keeps me here. I don't expect good quests nor care to see em

[rain otter]

@merry fog anyway my point is gay love story =/= horny. Cuz straigh love story=/= horny.

[prime lantern]

Want horny

Listen to varzia talk about teshin

[rain otter]

Why are you spoiler chat talking about quests?

[formal karma]

Is this not where you discuss spoilers

[prime lantern]

Varzias comments on teshin is horny

[merry fog]

because 2 idiots argue about things that don't matter

[rain otter]

I was about to say Varzia now she is horny. Also she talks about women and men. Cuz she is our disaster bi.

[prime lantern]

No no no

Her comments about maroo are romantic and lovey dovey

Her comments about teshin are horny and very assertive

[rain otter]

She also talks about like

[heavy marten]

And don t forget one of the sisters loves so much tenno.

[rain otter]

Some servant she thought was hot.

And I think a Orokin lady.

[heavy marten]

love for everyone

[rain otter]

Yee

Even when the Polycule is evil alright.

Looks at dagath.

You know the EVIL DARK polycule that makes their third a warframe. Lul

[formal karma]

[prime lantern]

Very evil

I do hope stalker gets more lore

[rain otter]

Will he be in a Poly relationship with a bi couple?

Idk if I'm that interested if he's not/j

[prime lantern]

Learning he's confirmed not tenno is certainly a neat thing

Reminds me a destiny story I rather liked but that's neither here nor there

If he gets a quest I hope we play him before the helminth

[rain otter]

I liked the computer also confirming what I said about Rell.

That he held down the Man in the Wall until we released him and he died.

[prime lantern]

And follow him on his way to get helminthed and junk

[rain otter]

Even calling him "the Sentiental"

[prime lantern]

That was said in the chains of harrow no?

[rain otter]

Yeah but people told me I was wrong still.

Idk.

[prime lantern]

People tell me rell isn't actually dead and archons don't exist

People are sometimes idiots

[rain otter]

Lul yeah.

[formal karma]

I don't remember rell that much. Was like 6 years ago

[nova harness]

Archons don’t exist I killed them dead

[alpine zinc]

Hey, did you notice the vessels have heartbeat or something? Pretty cool

[rugged ridge]

Just noticed how much the loneryder helmet looks like Arthur's chin attachment

[rugged ridge]

Oh shoot the dex helmet is similar too

[viscid quarry]

Yeah it’s cool like if they had a pacemaker

[eternal kettle]

"Archons don't exist"

Huh?

Who are these people?

[viscid quarry]

Idk I’ve never seen anyone who suggested such an awful and false idea

[coral grotto]

I hope we get more “fingers” of the man in the wall

(Like just more aspects of him in other forms)

[next zealot]

What?

[viscid quarry]

There’s an ear

[prime lantern]

Idiots

[coral grotto]

I know I just mean like referring to physical forms as “fingers” of the Man in the Wall

[wild copper]

the "ears and eyes" defense system that you defend early in the quest is literally ears and eyes

[prime lantern]

Things I've been told by other people

[supple dagger]

I could see Rell coming back in the future in a vision or alternative timeline

[eternal kettle]

Maybe if there is a tenno afterlife in the void

He may play a part again, but now he is very dead

[prime lantern]

Neither of those make him not dead

[orchid remnant]

maybe rell was the friends we made along the way

[supple dagger]

I wish there were more secret rooms in the labs ngl

[eternal kettle]

Like the orokin tower tileset?

[nova harness]

There is but If they were found they wouldn’t be secret would they?

[supple dagger]

how do you kill drones in new bounty?

[formal grove]

quick check, when's the new operation that comes with the update?

[eternal kettle]

Maybe in like a week

No date

[steady gate]

The actual drone you need to kill in a Netracell mission has 100 health, and dies to basically anything
The other drones, I’m not sure you CAN actually kill them.

[supple dagger]

there were no drone

besides immune one

[steady gate]

There is. It hides WELL, and abuses verticality. I’ve had them be under a floating platform, or basically touching a ceiling.

[supple dagger]

nah this was 100% bug, now i found it fast (on next mission)

[amber terrace]

How do I kill the mocking/scathing whispers in the Albrecht's Laboratory tileset? I've encountered a few in the time I've played Whispers In The Walls but I've never figured out how to kill them past their first damage phase

[vague veldt]

Anyone who knows how to get into that secret area in this part of the tileset?

[twilit panther]

anyone know how to pick this up?

Been ringing the whole time

[eternal kettle]

You can't, the tenno has anxienty around phone calls

[timid tulip]

||Your hud gets a location marker that looks like a book. Find the book. Shoot it with your amp.||

[vague veldt]

Doesn't have to be your amp, regular weapons works to

[timid tulip]

I'm having a different issue, I can't complete this exterminate bounty because for some reason Severed Wardens aren't counting?

[timid tulip]

It's very clearly meant to be operator, when you shoot the book yourself. I'm hitting 5 per pellet with my shotgun and two-shotting the book with my amp.

[supple dagger]

Gauss redline

[vague veldt]

Just saying normal weapons works to

[timid tulip]

Only by technicality. It isn't practical or recommended.

A mote amp would perform better.

[vague veldt]

lol a mote amp

I can destroy it fast enough with my Tipedo to not bother switching but one should go with whatever works for them.

[timid tulip]

are we talking about the same thing?

I'm not talking about the enemy itself. I'm just talking about the book object you have to destroy.

[timid tulip]

ok cool I finished it
only took me waiting 10 more minutes for an anatomizer to spawn :tired:

[vague veldt]

Yeah same thing. The book after the first phase can be destroyed with regular weapons quickly enough for it not to be a issue to bother switching to operator.

[timid tulip]

I know you're not, but god I feel like I'm being gaslit right now
I swear my weapon isn't just Built Horribly. It was barely touching the book's health at all

Now I'm worried my mods are BAD.

Thanks kickbot

[vague veldt]

Sorry if it sounds like I am argueing, that was not my intention.

[timid tulip]

oh there's a vent there?

unreal

[steady gate]

You can see it in the screenshot

[timid tulip]

I mean, I did when you pointed it out

[vague veldt]

You're a legend. Been running around this room looking for clues now for nearly 15 mins lol.

[low badger]

By the Void... according to the Codex entries from Albrecht, he's not ||just behind the Void and the Indifference coming to our plane and taking notice of us... he also primed the people who would become Warframes, created (synthesized) the Helminth strain - the one that our Warframes are borne from - and summarily caused the Infested outbreak we know from a much more contained plague in 1999 - which he canonically went to in our timeline, apparently - and even caused the outbreak on Deimos through his negligence while studying the grey Strain.||

Man that's alot to unpack

[viscid quarry]

So essentially if granum is a order of intelligence ahead of the average genius then albrecht is the messiah

[hollow totem]

if you fail netracell do you lose entry?

[atomic lynx]

No

[viscid quarry]

No you just fail

[hollow totem]

why lvl of enemy is inconsistent some 190 some 290

[prime lantern]

Send an ss of all of them

Arnt the logs just him talking about loid helping him after the incident

Unless your interpretation of the final line is him being responsible for every event

[low badger]

All the pictures, or you mean all ~22 of the texts?

[prime lantern]

Oh what there's more

I mean if you could dm me the ones besides aftermath I'd be grateful

[low badger]

I'll just do them all, one sec

The new Albrecht Entrati Codex Entries: The Aftermath

The new Albrecht Entrati Codex Entries: The Cavia

The new Albrecht Entrati Codex Entries: Duviri

The new Albrecht Entrati Codex Entries: The Vessels

Hopefully that's not too spammy, but now people can read or reference it as needed here

[orchid remnant]

How do you find them? Are they all in the tileset and how do they look etc

[prime lantern]

Well to this he didn't prime the people he simply had other subjects

[hollow totem]

book

[prime lantern]

The warframe project was independent of him

[orchid remnant]

ohh

so you need to do netracells?

[prime lantern]

Chat why did he say this

[nova harness]

Who?

[orchid remnant]

W albrecht conclave player

[scarlet basalt]

THE ORO IS REAL

Oh so 1999 is really surely the "great plague" from mire description

[supple dagger]

THERES MORE NOTES????????

Here I thought I had all of them

[scarlet basalt]

I wonder if it also mean that we will go to radiations war one day
Maybe next tennocon they will show us that ?

[supple dagger]

@low badger did you get the new entries from the books?

Cause they don’t give me anymore fragments

[obtuse gyro]

||I love how with the diction goobers are going to read that sentence as if albrecht made Prime Warframes||

[obtuse gyro]

Not really no

Theres this outbreak, but theres also the outbreak that resulted in the infested outer colonies

[prime lantern]

I summoned bau

[obtuse gyro]

Yea this isnt whispers main plot so I have no issue reading these

[magic summit]

Warframe 1999 is going to turn into a Back to the Future event isn't it

[scarlet basalt]

wait did the infested outer colonies things just went back to normal like infested retreated to somewhere ?
Bcz like, for today it sounds weird that the infestation seems to be very calm,distant and/or scared (told by the nora thingies)

[graceful zodiac]

Oh wow, this actually can settle a debate I've been having on the Spacebattles thread

[last bear]

guys i need help i am stuck on the alch misson where you need to kill 2 necmechs but it wont spwn the 2nd one in and we cant find the way out

[obtuse gyro]

"very calm" like plaguestar didnt just happen lmao

[scarlet basalt]

those random infested missiles are so funny tho
But arlo didn't make a worse event by literally going with a ton of ship ?

[prime lantern]

Which is?

[magic summit]

There was no plague star

[supple dagger]

Ohhhh you need to use other Warframes to get different fragments

I think thats what’s happening here

[scarlet basalt]

So like, did the infested just said that they will retreat or for the infested outer colonies event ?
Like did they just fall back even tho they could have took the entire solar system maybe ?

[low badger]

Same as the first. I think wielding the Grimoire helps with drop rate but that could just be placebo
Just hunt down the Mocking/Scathing Whisper in bounty missions (The 'book' miniboss)

[supple dagger]

O h

Welp nevermind

[graceful zodiac]

Mainly about this being WFs past proper, adjacently about the Great Plague

[scarlet basalt]

still love the fact that each of the infested are like :

We almost made an apocalyptic event to show how powerful we can be
We retreat bye
Never hear them for years

[obtuse gyro]

Gunna have to retreat then, since I haven't done whispers yet

But I will say this explains how albrecht made qorvex

Mans had enough practice making things with the helminth

[low badger]

The update just now changed the order so I might have the order wrong in the uploads here.
I believe the Duviri fragments are supposed to come before The Cavia [so it's the reverse of this](#spoiler-chat message)

Fixed Albrecht’s Notes Fragments not showing up in the order they are unlocked in the Codex.

[scarlet basalt]

So they confirmed the one thing that the community didn't decipher, the word that he spoke
"VOULL NE XATA VOK, MARA LOHK"
I wonder what this mean

[granite plover]

Hi. Did they get a bugfox out for Whispers? I got stuck on the second mission and wanted to check before I dive back in.

[low badger]

They did, less than an hour ago

Well, the 2nd one an hour ago

[heavy pollen]

SPOILER ALERT - Anthony the 1999 guy is umbra Excalibur

[prime lantern]

What

[nova harness]

Incorrect

[rain otter]

oh i didn't know the Vessels where made of helminth.

[scarlet basalt]

Helminth must have been exhausted pushing those big babies

[rain otter]

no

Albretch made them

with pieces he took from people that where becoming warframes.

[scarlet basalt]

If it wasn't for mitw's mouth vomiting light...
Maybe his entire domain would be in darkness ?

[heavy pollen]

It’s my guess but are you a DE

[nova harness]

Umbra was made well into the Old War

[amber terrace]

Does Tagfer’s Netracell mission have matchmaking?

[scarlet basalt]

yeah

[amber terrace]

So I can queue on my own in and have a squad? I ask because Tagfer’s dialogue in the mission that says something about bringing friends

[supple dagger]

Yea it’s basically normal matchmaking

But if you aren’t in a squad immediately then just wait for a few seconds until people join you

[autumn turret]

what missions can you get the notes in, i know i had the side objective for that in alchemy

[vague veldt]

Anyone else struggling to unlock the last fragment of Albrecht's notes - the aftermath? The whispers aren't dropping pages any more.

[amber terrace]

I think my netracell instance is bugged, we’re on the stage where we need to kill the necramite but it isn’t spawning? If I leave the session will I be able to reattempt?

[solar monolith]

I'm confused. What exactly are those giant bald statues and what are they for???

[rain otter]

okay HMMMMM

sometimes they are hard to see but they usally are there they can even be in a place that is hard to see

like on the side of a ledge and stuff.

[amber terrace]

Hmm… I know in a recent hotfix DE said that they would make the necramite you need to kill glow and we didn’t find any glowing necramites?

[steady gate]

The Necramites will take FULL ADVANTAGE of the fact they are flying.
They will be at ANY height in the marked area, and if it’s a room with hanging/floating platforms, they can spawn under said platforms

[supple dagger]

Yea some don’t give you the fragments cause RNGESUS is mean sometimes. You just gotta keep repeating them until you do

[supple dagger]

Any missions tbh. I found more luck by going in solo and scouring the map for them rather than waiting for the bounty to appear and then doing them

[amber terrace]

For some reason the game will trigger a necramite but the security level bar won’t go away? Like the necramite I’m shooting doesn’t have a health bar?

[autumn turret]

not the right mite

[vague veldt]

Ugh... fragment based RNG... and so many of the latest updates have brought so many QoL changes and then they backtrack on this.

Thanks for the answer though.

[supple dagger]

Np, but if you still can’t get them, try using a different Warframe for the book to mimic. It worked for me a few times when I got 0 fragments in a row

Don’t know if its coincidence or if that’s actually a feature but its worth the shot lol

[vague veldt]

Might try that then.

[supple dagger]

Yea and also there’s apparently even more fragments that you can unlock after you complete that first one

[vague veldt]

Well your definitely on to something in regards to switching frames I think. I got 5 page fragments until they stopped dropping and I had farmed them all so far with Qorvex but I switched to a different frame as you said with one dropping right after.

[supple dagger]

Ayyy lets go I’m finally(potentially) right about a theory I had

[amber terrace]

Does [Melee Duplicate] have crit scaling?

[prime lantern]

Wdym

[amber terrace]

It says for base crits I have a 25% chance for my attack to strike a second time, does that mean if I go to oranges and reds and exclamation points I have a higher chance of hitting twice?

[steady gate]

Base crits mean only yellow

[amber terrace]

Ah

Darn, because I have a Scindo build that has a 141.1% crit chance and I thought I could be funny with crit scaling lol

Also, I noticed something. The mod Containment Breach shows up on the companion app but not in game?

Like is this a bug or…?

[fading turret]

Kind of expected Parvos to be at least neutral towards us.

But now he’s an active antagonist.

His beef was with Nef, and he has a Warframe as his companion and protector. But he’s hostile towards us.

I guess I thought Parvos was just a good guy - especially with how he roasted the hell out of Nef over being a greedy scumbag

[rain otter]

he always was.

like in the quest he acts like a weak old man even in his voice until we get close to him and then he turns and speaks normally and tries to kill everyone.

Like idk what gave you the impression he liked us. like he threatened us and was "we should work together or i will kill your friends"

how is that netrual to us?

[fading turret]

I’ll have to replay it if I can, but I was of the impression that he thought we were working with Nef Anyo

[rain otter]

no

[fading turret]

Like Nef already sent countless Solaris into the Granum Void before us, and then a Warframe shows up

[rain otter]

he literally knows we are like the Tenno. also he blew up a lab just cuz the tenno attacked it.

also he only has Protea cuz it was a deal with the Orokin.

also all his like precepts are all about lying and taking what you want.

and making a pyramid scheme.

[fading turret]

Aye

Fair enough.

So if he’s such an arse why does he scold Nef for being… more of an arse?

Or a lazy arse lmfao

[rain otter]

cuz they aren't doing it right.

he is being evil wrong.

[fathom skiff]

WOO what a quest

[rain otter]

old man yiao.

[fathom skiff]

ok so here are the questions:

1. What year is it currently? I always assumed far future (10675 or smth), but i want to know for sure now, with Alberecht skedaddlin to 1999

2. The Man in the Wall is the antagonist, cool. He mentioned a deal, which we've seen. What exactly were the terms of that deal, and why does Wally believe we broke the deal?

2b. Also on the Wally topic, We saw 'void forms' of our operator (duh) and also alberecht. Are they different entities or different manifestations of the one and only Wally?

[rain otter]

1. we don't know. 2. we don't know. 2b. probably one in the same cuz all the enemies we fight that aren't machines are part of the "indifference"

[fading turret]

So far as I know, the deal is literally just that Wally saves the children of the Zariman - but he never said he would save you.

The rest of it seems to be a non-verbal contract

Maybe he wants you as a vessel or something? Which could explain why he always appears as your Operator does

[rain otter]

yeah It also basiclly makes all the operators timelines just boil down to 2

one with the drifter one with the tenno.

[fathom skiff]

does this imply that he made a smilar deal with Alberecht?

[fading turret]

The Void is itself slowly encroaching into the Origin System isn’t it?

[rain otter]

no but Albretch was the first one to ever see him.

[rain otter]

Maybe.

[fading turret]

Maybe Wally can only project his appearance but not all of his power, unless he has a body to store himself in.
You.

[fathom skiff]

3. what exactly was the climax of the quest? I have my own theory, which issss

The void is emotion incarnate. The void and the murmur acting up happened only after Loid woke up. My guess is that the lab is so 'close' to the void, the murmur reacted to Loid's anger at Alberecht, which caused them to rile up. The ending brings Loid peace, which stops the immediate threat

[rain otter]

I mean Rell did hold him down for a long tim .

[fading turret]

So far he has only ever taken control of things.

So it was with Rell, and so it was with the statues in Whispers

But he hasn’t exhibited greater powers

[fathom skiff]

I say yes and no. The Void and Wally are 2 different things. Wally aims to break into the system, bringing the void with him

but the void isnt breaking into the system of its own volition

[fading turret]

The Zariman is clogging a rift between the System and the Void isn’t it?

But if the Zariman was removed the Void would spill in; “There’d be void storms from here to Venus”

Also what does Teshin mean in Duviri when he says he Void Angels’ master would be freed if they break through the wall?

[fathom skiff]

yes, exactly. The zariman is a weak point, and Wally wants to take advantage

[errant charm]

The quick 1999 part does cause an odd question. Either Arthur is equipped for transferrance or with the toys in that lab a tenno can project into anyone. Yes the stream was diverted but it did still have someone to divert to.

[fathom skiff]

its interesting, but i think theres no way we can solve that question before warframe 1999 comes out

[fading turret]

Do you think it’s just a memory embedded in that statue?

I think it’s more of a ‘playable cinematic’ where the gameplay part isn’t necessarily canon and we aren’t actually controlling Arthur’s, but rather remembering something that he did

Same applies with Umbra. We see his memory but we aren’t the ones playing Komi with Ballas. Umbra is.

[fathom skiff]

thats actually a good point, and you're probably right

[errant charm]

I mean i guess it could have been a read only connection.

[fathom skiff]

But the thing thats stopping you is that Umbra is bound to the frame, is arthur bound to the titan?

answer is we dont know yet

[errant charm]

Possibly wont know for a year depending on if 1999 is a summer or winter drop.

[fathom skiff]

also this is my void map, might help. (The Lab is simultaneously on Mars and where it is on my map.

i might tweak it again btw

[errant charm]

The “Wally Arc” is likely to get quite interesting.

[fathom skiff]

v2

[kindred lotus]

The void angels "master" is most likely Wally, as he's seen drawn all over the Zariman

[prime lantern]

Correction
A tenno can project into anyone

No tech required just a strong will

[graceful zodiac]

We're not just projecting into anyone

We connected to Arthur specifically becuase that Vessel is made from samples of Arthur

either that Vessels or all Vessels

[fading turret]

Isn’t 1999 a literal point back in time though?

Or is it some kind of program, that is a construction / simulation of the past

[graceful zodiac]

It is the actual past

[fading turret]

Wow. Awesome

I don’t know why I’m surprised by time travel when Eternalism exists lmfao

[vivid quiver]

I think it is a time loop at the moment, yeah?

[graceful zodiac]

But a different past since Albrecht is actively making changes

[magic summit]

Did you use apple maps to make that map

[white elm]

I wish we could get minn it made me kinda sad knowing he lost the one he loves

[fading turret]

Yeah I feel bad for him.

[magic summit]

Plot twist: minn got lost on purpose

[lean juniper]

Ok I love this scene with Wally especially with my operator

However I wish it would have showed my hood (hood down umbra scarf)

[late otter]

Looks like there's a bug with the mocking/scathing whispers, the arcane drop doesnt show for some squad members even if the others got the arcane

[magic summit]

In which you learned Wall E is sith

[lean juniper]

Also he was so cool on top of the head if it as well

[magic summit]

not really. That was my spot

[lean juniper]

Also this what regular operator look like

Don’t mind sevagoth’s menacing stare in the back

[magic summit]

Sevagoth says: tell me your deepest darkest secrets

Sevagoth: also bring me potatoes

[lean juniper]

The eye of a man who wants potatoes

[brisk moss]

Me when

[magic summit]

Sevagoth: Potaaaaaaaàaaaaaaaaaatos!

[supple dagger]

https://youtu.be/t8HilzVnFWY?si=_gfaXUR0n7ZHRR_y heres the Cavia lore incase anyone wanted to hear it

RNGESUS is mean so Im still in the process of getting the rest

[marsh matrix]

at the end of the quest, why when we touch another titan face it stopped attacking and froze?

[supple dagger]

“It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...and take away its pain."—Ballas

[ocean void]

Budget cuts went hard to make an animation fight scene

[frozen stump]

its mirroring the original cutscene at the beginning of the quest - albrecht touching loids face.

[eternal kettle]

I thought i was about to void blast the other statue but this is neat too

[steep sierra]

I'm going to say it.

||Clem should have had a bigger role or some kind of role in New War. ||

[solid ginkgo]

he defeated the beast with the power of love and friendship

[coral harness]

||As someone who helps him out a lot. He is a very busy man. ||

[steep sierra]

Facts

would have hit harder if they killed him off- and then have him cloned as Phlegm or something

or have it be like CLEM 2 and not be the same clem who retains the memories of Clem 1

[zealous cairn]

We error 404ed the Strand of Khra he was manifested through with the power of gay

[eternal kettle]

Secret lore

[frozen stump]

I mean, not really. thats albrecht right there, in the back row.

[midnight swallow]

um

[frozen stump]

ooooooooooo whered you get that?

[midnight swallow]

steel path the fragment one

you gotta over do the objective of 30 eyes

and then suffer

i think its the secret pablo was on about. hopefully got it fast enough to be on the special list hes looking

[frozen stump]

its not on the wiki yet, and also not showing up if I google it

I wonder if its a garunteed drop

so for now

shhhhh don't tell anyone

[midnight swallow]

garanteed

its would be crazy if it wasnt. the fight is a nightmare

it has perma death, and a stack system that makes the mission progressively harder

[frozen stump]

? a perma death? that dosen't make sense, its not the necracells, arbitration or archons.

[lone axle]

steel path fragmented assassination isnt like that at all

[midnight swallow]

it is

do 60 eyes instead of 30 eyes

[lone axle]

no, ive had 30 eyes consistently between normal and steel

[midnight swallow]

do more

[lone axle]

huh

[midnight swallow]

you dont have to stop at 30. you can do more

[lone axle]

oh

[midnight swallow]

only gives you the fragmented one on steel path. instead of the 3 variants

[frozen stump]

so to get it we need to get 60 eyes?

[midnight swallow]

yup, when you get 30 eyes and he says go to the boss. pick up another one of the marked items on the map, and he will say something about how it will be harder and mark another location to take the item. go do it till you have 60 eyes then he will be existed and tell you to go fight the boss and that it will be op as hell, and it will be

on normal path it just gave the normal 3 variants for doing 30 when i did 60.

[frozen stump]

instead of going for the boss, pick up a different marked item?

or after?

[midnight swallow]

the fish will tell you where to go and mark it

then once its 60 he will say go do boss again

[lone axle]

i just attempted this

protip, you may want to assemble a squad before gathering 60 eyes

the only one of my squad still alive is a hildryn with a glaive

i wish fibonacci (or the game in general) would tell you more about the hell you're about to go into by attmepting this

[fading turret]

https://tenor.com/view/menacing-jojo-emoji-menacing-emoji-gif-25500020

[midnight swallow]

i warned you

[lone axle]

i know, but i thought you were exaggerating (and its a lot worse than you described)

the boss can nullify abilities

awful superboss 0/10

[summer hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-man-hello-chat-hello-chat-gif-24187047

I love how warframe lore turned into this cosmic horror with the introduction of man in the wall

[magic summit]

I don't recall ever seeing this

And now sleep

[summer hornet]

Im not american your timezone does not affect me

[midnight swallow]

i warned you

it felt good to beat tho

NORMAL LIKE THIS 10/10 good boss fight

[fading turret]

That was in the end of New War pretty much immediately after Ballas is killed. Wally shows up and then vanishes for no reason

[vast delta]

inaros time

[untold quarry]

So what're people's thoughts on entrati being 'wallyfied'
Hoping we either get a boss fight with him or we get to save him from the man in the wall

[brisk moss]

O?

Interested

[midnight swallow]

it was

[brisk moss]

Nice :D

Also interesting sumdali, want

[midnight swallow]

the fight is a nightmare

dont go alone

its not safe

[main moss]

it was so painfull ...

but now im also have hands

[midnight swallow]

gg

styanax with his augment made it the most survivable. its definitely a out last fight. as the DA and other factors make gunning it down highely out landish. you just gotta keep chipping away at it and not dying.

[brisk moss]

Hard to kill but manageable.

[midnight swallow]

the fact last gasp is removed during the second health bar is the main dampener

[main moss]

if you not solo it is not a big problem

[midnight swallow]

new mod

[hollow totem]

oh i thought inbox message

[velvet wing]

And here I was thinking Megan's hint last night was about the return of the gotva prime

[nova harness]

That already returned

[tiny rune]

noticed this the first time ever ... anyone know what this is about

[warm ibex]

what are culervin weak points?

[amber terrace]

Arms

[supple dagger]

If you stand on it with Octavia your music plays

[rain otter]

What is Pablo making a list for?

[velvet wing]

To find out who is naughty or nice

[midnight swallow]

people who found the hands first

[midnight swallow]

hands

[rain otter]

But what for? Is my question.

[midnight swallow]

becuase it was a hidden easter egg boss fight

[rain otter]

Like what is he gonna do with those names?

[midnight swallow]

idk

[rain otter]

Okay.

[barren drum]

Mickiewicz would be proud

[summer hornet]

Hidden stat:
x4.5 damage multiplier against maturzyści

[summer hornet]

+60% toxin when wielded by baba od polskiego

[next zealot]

I saw someone who did 'Return. A Wake'

Or something along that

[supple dagger]

https://youtu.be/_ED8JBOl7xc?si=nBklXMDI8XHriLl0 Interestinggg so Albrecht told Dominus about Wally and he could hear Euleria narrating

[next zealot]

Actually it might have been Departure

[barren drum]

i was considering calling the book Dziady cz. 4

[inner idol]

so apparently the guns I am carrying right now are not enough, you guys have any recommendations for weapons to use for the new missions?

[next zealot]

I just used hydroid mostly

But I've only done the quest

[inner idol]

yeah the actual missions have level 100 enemies in them from what I've played

[barren drum]

phantasma is a very good choice

[inner idol]

I'm starting to think it's time for me to grind out phenmor

[prime lantern]

Just get like lex incarnon

[next zealot]

Felarx has been a good suggestion for SP enemies, so probably that and other similar weapons

[halcyon gorge]

I've been able to do them with my normal fulmin

[rain otter]

I mean we can in Duviri

So why couldn't he?

Also this story shows he went to duviri and then came back. That he abandoned his daughter long before he went back to 1999.

[wild wind]

We actually knew that part already, he disappeared a long time before the Old War

The surprising part is that he was around at all for the Old War, and that he was in the labs under the Necralisk during that time.

[rain otter]

Yeah.

Also that Loid is the one that fixed his eyes and mouth and that he didn't get a new body.

[wild wind]

Welllll we knew about the no new body thing after the full requiem thing

But yeah Loid is almost an omnidiscipinary scientist

Medical science, void research, veterinary psychologist

[rain otter]

And a gay lover so many Job titles.

[wild wind]

He's lucky he didn't end up like Dagath

[rain otter]

That was a bi Poly couple not a gay single pairing lmao.

[wild wind]

I mean in the sense that Orokin have a real bad track record with non-Orokin partners

[rich orchid]

I guess my nezha is a loid simp 😔

[wild wind]

Dagath: Accidentally murdered, then Warframe'd
Margulis: Dumped (into jade light) when she wanted kids
Loid: literally had his bf leave after a few hundred years. Also left Albrecht on read.

[rain otter]

To be to fair exactly margulis. That was mostly Ballas fault who then blamed everyone else.

Lmao.

[wild wind]

Oh totally, it's always the Orokin's fault.

[amber terrace]

Is there a way I can search on DE’s drop tables for a specific mod? Also, what is the Lumbering Fragment?

[wild wind]

https://www.warframe.com/droptables

It's a specific Murmur enemy

[amber terrace]

Indeed, where can I fight this Lumbering Fragment? I don’t recall fighting any before and my Helios Prime apparently hasn’t scanned any either?

[viscid quarry]

They the big lads with two arms

[magic summit]

Is your Helios by chance a coward?

Mine likes to be a coward

[amber terrace]

Is this what you’re referring to?

[amber terrace]

My Helios scanned them, tons of times but they don’t appear in my codex?

[rich phoenix]

it has been done

[magic summit]

No idea what this is

[rich phoenix]

drop from killing the boss after getting 60 eyes (instead of 30) on the new assassinate

[magic summit]

But what is it

[rich phoenix]

cool hands

[magic summit]

Looks like a ship

[rich phoenix]

its the hands

[rich phoenix]

you can put them on any of the landing ships ☝️

[magic summit]

You have a hand problem

[rich phoenix]

yes

[velvet wing]

Cursed

Wut it look like on skaut?

[amber terrace]

I have a desperate need for the [Containment Breach] mod, what’s the best place I can farm Lumbering Fragments? I would assume the SP survival node but I’m not 100% certain

[toxic basin]

how did you rename the grimoire?

[amber terrace]

I would assume going to Rude Zuud in Fortuna : )

[barren drum]

Yup

[woven cypress]

Neat little thing I noticed, the credit cost and time to make Albrecht’s Blueprint put together was 1999

[wild wind]

Yeah that fight blew. One of my squadmates didn't listen when we told him to not use Last Gasp, so he died in the first half.

[low badger]

I wish that after you get rank 3 with Cavia, Fibonacci's ||tank kept the crack from the cutscene||

[amber terrace]

I think it does?

[amber terrace]

||I don’t know if this is new but there’s a visible scuff on the tank||

[wild wind]

It's new yeah

[low badger]

||ngl the cutscene one looked much more... dire||

[amber terrace]

Also, if I may ask a question of thematics. Am I siding with the wrong people when I say that I kinda root for Tagfer?

[wild wind]

Nah

[rain otter]

no.

[wild wind]

Tagfer represents the "burn it all down" side of abuse victims

[rain otter]

Yeah.

I get Fib i do but you can't help but feel a lott for Tagfer.

[wild wind]

The fact that it would destroy people who had nothing to do with his abuse, if not all existence, notwithstanding, it's not wrong for him to feel that Albrecht's work isn't worth it

[amber terrace]

Something I do like is how after you hit Colleague, Fibonacci’s interact and idle dialogue makes him seem a lot more shaken up and timid almost

[wild wind]

Yeah he's lost his energy

[rain otter]

that was also a little bit of that at 2

but it will probably be worse at 3

i will have to check.

[wild wind]

He's as depressed as Tagfer, and ashamed, and humiliated now that both his secrets are out

[rain otter]

oof

[amber terrace]

Maybe I’m seeing this wrong, at times Fib felt almost grating to me pre Colleague with how almost high and mighty he seemed

[wild wind]

That he ||was the one to throw Minn into the void|| and that ||he wasn't intended to be part of the Cavia experiment in the first place||

[amber terrace]

I’m glad that he’s been brought down to everyone’s level in an almost cruel verbiage

[wild wind]

I never thought he was especially high and mighty

I got the sense that he was the only Cavia member who was actually a success

Full intelligence, full sense of purpose, full access to the knowledge Albrecht wanted him to have

[amber terrace]

Hmm… fair

From my perspective that success made him feel almost smug, like he could order around the other Cavia members

[wild wind]

Yeah, he's the one to jump right in

Because he's the perfect success

[low badger]

Honestly, I don't even see that ||tiny mark|| 😦

[wild wind]

Change angle I think

[amber terrace]

||My best guess is that Loid did a bit of digging in what part of the labs that weren’t entirely lost and found a spare bell/tank||

[low badger]

I have to look at it juuuust right xD

[wild wind]

Hahahahahaha

[low badger]

Oh, I found a new Codex entry from Albrecht Entrati btw so lemme add that...
The new Albrecht Entrati Codex Entries: "We End as We Began"

[supple dagger]

How. Many. Are. There

[low badger]

So far: 23

[steady gate]

23 different sets of notes?

[low badger]

23 scans to get all the entries

5 sets in total so far; 6/6/5/5/1

[supple dagger]

Oh ok so all I need is one more entry

[supple dagger]

https://youtu.be/IRHoge4HziM?si=6dK-B3mAVpzy61eF DSIEGE WAS RIGHT

Unless Im understanding this incorrectly…

[graceful zodiac]

How was he right?

[supple dagger]

Cause he said the Vessels look like Duviri citizens

And Albrecht made the first Vessels from Duviri citizens, if Im interpreting this correctly

[graceful zodiac]

He did not, no

[supple dagger]

Oh ok. So then who are the denizens?

[rain otter]

helminth test subject.

that bacame warframes. seeminly the proto frames.

[supple dagger]

Ohhh ok that makes more sense

[prime lantern]

Arthur maybe

[rain otter]

Not Arthur cuz Arthur is mentioned separately to the Helminth samples he takes from these people.

[still moat]

corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture.

[obtuse gyro]

yea as the other fellas pointed out, thats really off the mark

duviri aint mentioned in this entry, and the first one is implying arthur and aoi

[supple dagger]

Yea I thought denizen meant a Duviri citizen so thats where my confusion came from lol

Also that new secret boss proves that Wally ain’t messing around this time. That thing is a m e n a c e

[frozen stump]

warframe is no longer an ez turn off your brain and farm game

well, not while doing that boss, at least.

[supple dagger]

Tbh I wish for more bosses like that since they don’t die immediately and are super easy to kill. Its also probably one of the best bosses in the game imo. It’s challenging and after you kill them it makes you feel like you just defeated a Dark Souls boss

[wild wind]

one of my squadmates was raging hard about it

he did not appreciate his build getting "no u"'d

personally I'm fine with it, Warframe needs some content that Revenant can't sleepwalk through

but fr it really was kind of "be airborne 24/7 or lose"

[supple dagger]

Exactly. Im sure many people were humbled(me included) when they first tried to fight it

Like literally 10 seconds in half my team is dead and I’ve lost all my energy

[wild wind]

lol

[rain otter]

Can I see what it looks like?

[wild wind]

it's the regular fight

[supple dagger]

The only difference is like a cooler looking head and some black smoking wings

[rain otter]

I wanna see.

[supple dagger]

Which still look cool asf

[wild wind]

.....but on SP, with archon rules, infinitely spawning murmur eximus, Last Gasp drains immediately, the boss at sextuple health, and with magnetic attacks that dispell abilities in addition to draining energy

[rain otter]

Why would it have archon rules?

[wild wind]

it just does

if you bleedout you're dead, pizzas have timers and spectres are blocked

[rain otter]

Lul

[wild wind]

I got it first try but I was definitely just this side of biting my controller in half

[supple dagger]

Its meaner than it looks

[wild wind]

funny enough it doesn't have a unique scan

[rain otter]

Oooooh that is cool.

[supple dagger]

I got it on my second try and I was like solo during the first half cause no one joined

[wild wind]

nice

[prime lantern]

What's the reward?

[wild wind]

I was desperate to keep Laetum's incarnon charge up, for the times when I had energy to roar

[supple dagger]

Hands

[frozen stump]

look, I regret to post this. but.

https://tenor.com/view/tomura-shigaraki-reaching-out-hands-my-hero-academia-boku-no-hero-academia-gif-17120175

[wild wind]

Oh man it really is

[prime rampart]

hey i found something weird in the boss area of the fractured one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkOqZ0tLXQ

i feel like im the first one to find this but maybe not.

[frozen stump]

oh, thats an on-call crew member, from someones railjack. they can deploy them in almost any mission.

[magic summit]

I'm working on getting one that will annoy me and everyone else

[frozen stump]

I've got one I've colored a vibrant purple - its named "Rivven"

but I use my kuva lich with a funky name instead.

[magic summit]

I use my obsessed lich Zoo Miloo

[mystic flame]

gotta say it out loud, respectfully, Arthur is hot as helll and i'm sad we got to play him for such a short time ;-;

[distant meadow]

mirror deff drops the tome mods
where do the Tenno kai mods drop from?

[wild wind]

Alchemy

You'd think the magic cooking mission would drop the cookbook mods but nope

[scarlet basalt]

Albrecht is kinda crazy
Making giants like it was his daily task 😭😭😭

[nova harness]

Making fingers too

And exploring the void

Writing books

[scarlet basalt]

Writing books is the least of my worry if it wasn't that the book is literally imbued with the void

[cinder steppe]

I mean if you live on a moon covered in screaming cancer and giant godlike snake killing eachother over and over again. Just outside of your front door, than some knocking and throat singing Eldritch horrors won't wake you up anymore

[obtuse gyro]

The eldritch horrors areny actually under deimos. If you look at the void tileset from the hub area and look up, the upper ceiling is taller than the necralisk

Part of the lab is in the void

[cinder steppe]

The sounds are still being heard on the surface according to the pre-Tennocon Nightwave transmissions

[jagged sable]

I feel like one of those notes is going to be a message from Albrecht to the player because iirc, he says "it is written." in the trailer and "Don't. Be. Late."

[midnight swallow]

yea like how ordis explains the orbitor is part in the void to keep the operator safe

[scarlet basalt]

I wonder why they would add railjack to open world
If it's all open this could be very interesting

Like maybe since we're "away" the reinforcement for corpus/infested/grineer is going crazy and their development is going too wild to be handled only by our Warframe and require more

Or maybe it could go crazier
Like it wouldn't be suprising to have something like : pazuul is trying to recreate new sentients with the help of his knowledge from erra, ballas,etc..
Them learning how to make sentients construct out of humans wouldn't be suprising.
Iirc natah told us that they were created from humans to sentients
Iirc natah told us that she got reprogammed by ballas
So maybe they'll go that way and can launch high scale assault against the solar system ?
Making Scarlet spear v2 😭😭😭

[tropic venture]

How do I reach these?

It's the room with the giant brain being placed into a Vessel

[steady gate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952946035733438575/1184980586121662535/20231214225532_1.jpg?ex=658df22b&is=657b7d2b&hm=654c0244c8e4f40f30f19617a1a5c8551eb80acb0dc03559e9f552f34c503910&

[tropic venture]

ahh

damn that's very hidden

[prime rampart]

okay thanks, i can see how it happened, the boss "despawn" mechanic just made him really small.

[sudden garden]

Is The Fragmented One supposed to be able to one tap me through my overguard?

[wild wind]

If you're doing the hard mode version, yes

[sudden garden]

Damn. Guess I'll actually have to play the game for that one then instead of relying on kullervo. Thanks!

[mighty sleet]

can we have a hidden feature where after listening to all of ordis' past life we help him regain his memories back

[mighty sleet]

but really tho, what would rj do for us besides maybe the crew being air support

[scarlet basalt]

Full on scale attack from the worm to take down the unum and gather kuva as we've seen from the new war
For the other open world idk
Maybe orb vallis, destroying the teleporter thingies ?
And on Deimos most likely taking down the brain thingies that release jordas golem ?

[mighty sleet]

Might be the settings you use bc its not very present on any angle i can see
And i am rank3 in case it was gonna be a rank up thing

[mighty sleet]

we'll see what they do
if the mechanics dont mess up anything we have

[scarlet basalt]

They have prototype but releasing at full scale will prove unknown bugs

[supple dagger]

Does anyone know what this is? It’s over by the statues in the sanctum’s hub

There’s an invisible wall and you have to jump to see it, there another one next to it.

[wild wind]

As far as I can tell that area is actually part of a normal map tile

They've blocked access to the passages that would connect to the next tile over

[umbral granite]

Idk if anyone else has realized this and feel free to ignore me if you all have but I think Albrecht caused the Great plague

[rain otter]

Not true.

From the fragments we have. Also we know that the Orokins caused it.

Cuz Ballas said so in the Umbra quest.

He was at least part of making the Proto warframes. Now he wasn't seemingly the one to make Helminth or anything but he was there and was their like "doctor" and took samples and stuff for his person use with the vessels.

[umbral granite]

Samples he took with him to 99

[supple dagger]

Albrecht be plotting

[umbral granite]

That's why arthur and aoi have void powers

[supple dagger]

Also hearing him say Warframes is cool asf

[umbral granite]

Agreed

[rain otter]

Not true.

[umbral granite]

It is literally in his notes

[rain otter]

Cuz he doesn't go back to 1999 until later. He uses the samples for the vessels.

What part of the notes say he takes it to 1999?

[amber terrace]

Something I noticed, it seems the animal elements of the Cavia seem to be coughing?

[rain otter]

What?

[amber terrace]

Yeah, occasionally they’ll make coughing noises as their idle sounds for Colleague(R3) I’d have to screen record to prove it though

[supple dagger]

Well they are dying so(Im only at rank 3 NO SPOILERS PLS)

[amber terrace]

I’m also only at R3 : )

[supple dagger]

It’s depressing to see Bird being sad

[obtuse gyro]

based on the above conversation, the conclusion that the plague was caused by albrecht cannot be gleamed from this entry

what albrecht brought were helminth infusions for already infected people

[rain otter]

Yeah I what said.

I've looked at all the notes. That's why I said what I said.

[umbral granite]

Aoi seems to believe he caused the outbreak

[rain otter]

So?

I think there is we don't know and stuff I would like to know.

Like how does he use Arthur's like "essence" or whatever the f*k when he builds the vessels. How does he know about Aruther if he only goes there when Loid smashes the Coffin?

[umbral granite]

He figured out time travel

Im pretty sure he could come back as long as everything was working

He may have made multiple trips

[rain otter]

Maybe?

[obtuse gyro]

eeeeh, loid smashed his time machine, and based off the dialogue where loid flips out about wally reaching 1999, we can half-infer that there was some measure of "risk" that would cause Loid to question if albrecht arrived safely

meaning that it might be the first trip

[rain otter]

We have no evidence of him going more than once.

That's why it's werid.

[umbral granite]

I think wally showing up in 99 was also Albrechts doing

Even if by accident

[rain otter]

Also he seemingly only cares about 1999 is cuz of this.

[rain otter]

Loid says Albretch thinks 1999 is the only place that is safe from MITW.

[umbral granite]

But then Albrecht turns around and gives the locals void powers

Tenno powers

[rain otter]

Also he made the suits and swords for Arthur.

[umbral granite]

Opening a path

[rain otter]

Not void powers.

The warframes don't have void powers.

[obtuse gyro]

but they are void attuned

[umbral granite]

We used transferance

[rain otter]

Yeah cuz they are gonna put Tenno in um.

[obtuse gyro]

which is much different from tenno powers

[umbral granite]

That's may have been all that was needed

[obtuse gyro]

yea on arthur, he didnt give arthur our powers

we used transference on arthur, arthur didnt use tranference

[rain otter]

But He made a suit for Arthir and Aoi?

[umbral granite]

Either way it still opens a path for a non linear being

[obtuse gyro]

they are the suit

[rain otter]

Cuz those diagrams are in the labs. So is Arthur's Sword.

Anyway this update has a Lotta questions.

[umbral granite]

Yes

[rain otter]

Like I gave the answers we know specifically.

So that's why it seems like I'm disagreeing with you Tat. I don't dislike your ideas and some of them might be correct (I think the thing you said about the Infested is wrong and we are gonna get a Infested update soon) but when talking about like specifically about things we know I stick to what is specifically stated.

[supple dagger]

I think those diagrams show how he studied them, not that he made their suits

[rain otter]

Why would he have the sword in his lab?

[supple dagger]

Uhh I didn’t know there was a sword in his labs

[rain otter]

It's the sword Arthur uses.

Its on the table where the diagram is.

[obtuse gyro]

I mean the fragment says he turned some folks in the past into partial warframes

[rain otter]

Or was there when it happened.

[graceful zodiac]

Albrecht explicitly brought Warframe tech back with him

[rain otter]

At least. Also he took samples from them for the vessels.

[rain otter]

Where did this say that?

I'll belive you just I wanna know where it isbl.

[rain otter]

This is about Like random now Citizens.

Not 1999 Citizens.

[supple dagger]

Ok so did Albrecht bring the infestation to 1999?

[rain otter]

We talked about this.

[prime rampart]

so albrecht definitely created warframes and ballas loudly took credit right?

[rain otter]

No literally.

That's not what's said.

The most we know is he like was the doctor for some people that where exposed to the strain (on purpose from what sacrifice said) and like prepared/took samples from them.

[graceful zodiac]

Modern day WF citizens? They're just regular

[rain otter]

Yeah.

Who do you think is?

[umbral granite]

'The plague year' could be referring to 99 instead of the old war for all we know

[rain otter]

It wouldn't make sense for him to be talking about 1999 citizens being proto warframes in a lab with a random blue guy being a doctor?

[obtuse gyro]

huh?

[supple dagger]

Well Aoi did call him Dr. Entrati so idk

[rain otter]

I think it's literally back when the Orokin Empire purposefully let the Infested loose on its colonies.

[graceful zodiac]

No, the plague years he's talking about is 1999

[rain otter]

Random like pre old war Orokin Empire citizen.

[obtuse gyro]

should have talked more because the phrase "helminth infusions from my own time" indicate that albrecht is not in his native time

[rain otter]

Prove it. I don't believe you.

[prime rampart]

guessing the radiation wars are against the infested

[obtuse gyro]

I dont believe you

[rain otter]

WAIT

That does say

"From my own time"

Then how

[graceful zodiac]

Because the context of the rest of the codex fragments only talks about 1999

[obtuse gyro]

means he's made more than one jump

[rain otter]

He brings back samples to now? To kake the vessels?

[graceful zodiac]

The only place he was traveling to was 99

[prime rampart]

albrecht took current day helminth back with him

[obtuse gyro]

well yea, its also likely why when we transfered into the vessel we got redirected to arthur

[rain otter]

Can I see the new pag of the fragments?

[prime rampart]

he only broke the time machine once and there's a nokia phone on the desk so he definitely did this for a while

[rain otter]

But yeah I'm wrong.

So just took Helminth back

[rain otter]

Also he didn't cause the infestation or make the warframes alright.

[rain otter]

I meant the whole page.

[umbral granite]

Albrecht might be a bootstrap

[obtuse gyro]

he made arthur and aoi into partial warframes

[rain otter]

Yee

[rain otter]

I agree.

[obtuse gyro]

he just didnt make the warframes, that even he attributes to ballas

[supple dagger]

Ok now it makes more sense

[graceful zodiac]

There's no bootstrap anything right now

[prime rampart]

no the helminth is a living entity that just regularly wrecks everyone but the orokin found it fought it and used it for their fleshtech

[rain otter]

Yeah someone before said he did and that didn't make sense.

[rain otter]

No that's not no.

[graceful zodiac]

All Albrecht has done is make a new timeline with his changes

[prime rampart]

me

[supple dagger]

Well no wonder they want to kill him

[rain otter]

The Helminth specifically is the Infestation that was made to be like non hostile and be loyal to like US and make the warframes. Also seemingly not coneccted to the rest of the Infested hive minds @prime rampart

[prime rampart]

also im pretty sure the infestation was already on earth and thats why he was going to that specific year

[obtuse gyro]

I uh, think theres quite a number of assumptions there, like:
Where did it ever say the helminth strain was fought?
Where did it say the helminth strain was found

All we know is the the helminth strain is the one used in the creation of the warframes

[rain otter]

That's not About anything I said Hero.

[rain otter]

It also doesn't spread to other things.

I think the Helminth strain is literally only available to the tenno and no other like not even the Infested have it.

[obtuse gyro]

eh, it spreads from helminth to helminth to the horror of fashion framers

[rain otter]

Cuz if the normal Infested had access to the Helminth strain

We would probably all be dead.

Like imagine the Infested being able to make their own warframes.

[supple dagger]

Albrecht really is that guy

[umbral granite]

Normal infested do have access

Several frames have fallen to the infestation

[prime rampart]

i got the order wrong but whatever the infestation is called did that and they clearly didn't invent the infestation right?

[graceful zodiac]

They still really wouldn't. No Void tech for the extreme powers

[obtuse gyro]

"clearly didn't invent the infestation right?"

Where did you get the idea that this was clear?

[prime rampart]

the question mark at the end was the emphasized part

[obtuse gyro]

in that case

wrong

[prime rampart]

okay cool

[rain otter]

I think the Infested updates to like ramp up to Infested Liches will give them a leader and the Infested liches will be about them like getting a piece of helmith.

[graceful zodiac]

Sure, they'd still be Waframe lite

[rain otter]

But that is like

[obtuse gyro]

aint got no magic kiddo doing a pacific rim-eqse thing

[rain otter]

Really good still lul.

[umbral granite]

Arlo exists and the infested as a whole already have samples

[graceful zodiac]

A bit better than what they got

But nothing that would make them scary off rip

[obtuse gyro]

off rip

[rain otter]

I think in one of the next few updates. Idk when.

But one of the next updates will be a Infested tile like update for eris.

And also giving the Infested a leader.

[prime rampart]

if the corpus and literal melting clones can do it, the infested will uh, find a way.

[graceful zodiac]

I lean no particularly way in it

[supple dagger]

Infested Liches coming next year according to Pablo

[rain otter]

I know.

[graceful zodiac]

We have nothing to indicate we'll be Getting any kind of infested refresher

[umbral granite]

Wait that's confirmed?

[prime rampart]

by pablo on twiter

[umbral granite]

Nice

[rain otter]

Wait I thought it was the QA

[graceful zodiac]

We always knew we were getting Infested Liches

[rain otter]

Yeah.

We just have to have a update before that to get ready for it and make a new tile which would also be used for the Infested Ships.

And then one to add Infested RJ.

[graceful zodiac]

They just have to add Infested RJ ship levels

[rain otter]

We have those though.

On eris it just needs a update.

This is what the Coprus Udpate that added Parvos was for.

[prime rampart]

oh wait i got pablo posting about secrets and reb in the qa mixed up, my bad.

[rain otter]

It also was just to prepare for Corpus RJ Deadlock that was the update name.

[graceful zodiac]

The Corpus ship tilesets rework has no connection to Sisters though

[rain otter]

I'm saying I wouldn't he surprised if we have a Deadlock style update for the Infested and then a Infested RJ Quest.