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The world is against us
Yea
Will WITW give us a wizards hat?
You weren't that far off tbf
It annoys me that it’s not void damage
Well the tome mods just might make it worth it
Ngl they're also from long time ago, so yeah it's normal that they're not that good
But current weapon back from the sacrifice were pretty good
Paracesis is also crazy good...If there were more sentients content
Soon there should be more sentients
the hell do they mean by "strategic combats"
Those two came out after B. War lol
you're right
Maybe once they released Broken war they knew that they messed up orvius/broken scepter lol
but yeah that's funny that Orvius/Broken scepter aren't good...After giving broken war
Maybe they just thought they can’t make every weapon good at that time
Maybe like the broken war we will get the kuva scepter in the future...
it's so good that they do coordinated attack for future mobs
It feels refreshing after seeing grineer for 10 years shooting at you with bullet travelling at mach speed
Anyone tried to translate what it is saying ?
We can't see it clearly 😦
They are making Grineer smart?
at the cost of pathing issue
So like in the trailer of the game
Those Grineer were smart
Actually smart grineer would just surrender
still loving that idk if it's pathing issue or literally they can't see but in warframe 1999 infested...Rarely attack arthur 😭
???
Thought they were overwhelming him
there was 2 infested literally looking at a wall instead of attacking arthur so they've killed them 😭
There’s a lore reason we can explain for this not all infested are smart
There's also a bunch of different Hiveminds.
Just off the top of my head, we have the F3/Jordas Strain, the Helminth Strain, the Fass/Vome strains on Deimos, and the one that drops Nekros whose name I forget
lephatnsi,
Lephantis
Also the one with the wild life on daimos
That'd be Fass/Vome. Two different strains, both fighting to control Deimos
Crazy to say : Yeah nature is against nature
Oh huh I always thought those two were just the same strain
Was this the infested you were referring to?
yeah
There's also one running in the wall or one literally waiting to be killed
Could just be to show off the trailer
Yep it's a show off in the trailer so arthur doesn't die if they can't activate godmode on this specific parts of the game
Maybe it’s just not easy to walk with a tv on your head
This strain I will name the albrech strain
Fair
Tv strain wdym
this strain act like my brain cells tbf so i find it logical to do that 😔
It’s just like alad’s strain
Maybe that infested was like Arlo
Who is arlo I hear about him so much
Click the Nightwave console
Arlo coming back from the grave after 1999 to say : oh i know you, you were the one who killed my specis when i was stupid, but now i'm stupid but faster.
I just wonder if now that they've "confirmed" that the infestation is from 1999,i wonder what arlo or whatever hivemind will tell us about the indifference,etc...
It could be crazy to hear anything from it about the void or itself
What came first Arlo heal or Varzain heal?
I think albrech introduced 1999 strain
He’s probably traveled back to fix 1999
Or to experiment
He saw what 2077 became
Since the infestation's origin is still unknown, maybe warframe 1999 will tell us the origin of the infestation too 🤔
We hope
All I know is Belric and Rania and they fear Sentients
Wait the infested?
They fear each other
I know the infested is scared of the void
That’s why Sentients and Infested never fight each other
crazy to think the literal apex predator is scared of something
I thought those two just knew it was futile to fight each other
I think Sentients fear infestation a little more
There’s larger numbers and it saved Deimos
Yea well warframes are infested and they can take them down easily, as well as the infested has stronger units than warframes
Wait it saved Deimos?
Oh from the sentients
There was a bomb that Belric and Rania threw
Son released the infested on Necralisk forever
I didn’t know he was apart of the infested introduction on that moon
All Entrati are infested bar Albrecht
Yea I know I just didn’t know if they were apart of why it’s there
Belric and Rania are the reason Infestation got onto the moon and Son made it worse
Oh thanks for the summary
Albrecht is the lynchpin that holds everything together.
He discovered the Void. He experimented with it and found a way to utilize it for energy production and space travel. He's the one that dove into the Void using the unique properties of Seriglass and inadvertently released the Indifference.
Because of his studies in the Void, we got stuck on the Zariman and become the Tenno AND Drifter. Because we found the Void we upset the Sentients even more. Because of the Sentients getting upset, the Orokin made the Infested to try and combat them. Because the Orokin were living high and mighty with their Void power and making war weapons, the Tenno attacked them and killed them and caused civilization to crumble.
You’re missing a few bits there
Then he takes a nap and astral projects himself into 1999, presumably to set in motion the events that would lead to his discovery, or the events that would create the Tenno or... well, we'll have to wait and see
Sentients were made after we came back
The Sentients were sent to Tau while we tried to get to Tau through the Void, which the Sentients couldn't do because it makes them summarily infertile
That wasn’t at the same time tho
Got a bit derailed at the end there
Sentients got pissy because orokin were depleting origin system and planned to do the same to tau
The thing between tenno and orokin was more personal
What with margulis' execution plus some very likely manipulation from the recently converted lotus
They made Sentients because the Zariman failed
The Sentients succeeded
Came back
Then Old War began
Whats this about someone taking a nap and astral projects them self's into 1999
Kinda confused here
Watch Whispers in the Walls and Warframe 1999 trailers
Of course you are confused thats a theory about unreleased content
Did you watch Tennocon?
I think it’s more of a clone situation
Then you wouldn’t understand the trailers are on YouTube
Also I watched it recently though
Can watch on youtube if you want
"Astral Project" is just my interpretation. What we do know is that
||Albrecht Entrati lays in an unusual coffin-like bed, gets sealed in with his favorite Kavat, Kalymos, and has his assistant smash the whole thing with a sledgehammer after it seals shut and makes some sci-fi lights and sounds.||
||Then he shows up in 1999 with a train conductor looking appearance alongside his kat looking very mastermind-behind-it-all||
Not tennocon in its self
I think that was more of in case I’m the other put me to sleep so I don’t mess things up
I think that Albrecht knows that he can only exist in one place at any given time. Since he's going backwards in time, he wants to make sure that his present self is dead, and that his assistant needs to know, beyond a doubt, that he is dead, because the Indifference is known to take Albrecht Entrati's form. It's actually Albrecht's greatest fear - he's even given up his immortality for it
This way, if the assistance ever sees Albrecht again, he will know that it is most assuredly NOT Albrecht, and will be able to kill the Indifference - or destroy his form or whatever - with no hesitation
Hm makes sense tho I think it’s less of a time jump and more of a parallel universe
That's also a good possibility. Warframe has a pretty good handle on how time travel would work.
If Albrecht went to the past to try and alter the future, then the future would have already been changed because he already went to the past.
1999 is either another dimension/timeline like the Drifter, or it's a simulation of some kind.
Yea I hope it isn’t a simulation
Or he's in a quantum superpositions everywhere nowhere somewhere another where
Can't be sure till you open the box
Ok It's a bit of a long shot but I think ik what this is it's set in the same dimension as DE's previous work dark sector
Not this again
Look at it
Or albretch has some way to prevent temporal paradoxs prevent the future from radically changing
Most likely through the void’s lack of time regulation
DE Has not touched dark sector in years
I don’t think they have legal rights to it
They've also stated multiple times ds won't be canon
Just minor references to it exist
And if u look at new game update it straight up says dark sector
And if u think about it DE has already bean known to through in nods and Easter eggs
To its old works
From dark sector days
"Nods and easter eggs" exactly not making it the same universe canon
I never said same universe
What do you mean by this then ?
This new update may be another duviri like quest where its a alternat universe
And as of late multiverse has bean a big thing
When I said that I was talking about the quest
Also from what I remember de doesn't own dark sector anymore
Nope
Yes but they may have aqured some thing for making this and u would not know this
Until realse
U not played crossover games before
Ok explain how the warframe are not used the same way
I'm happy so long as I get to see the following scene:
We play as Arthur for a bit, gunning down CRTInfested for a couple missions.
Then, Tenno gets blasted into the scene, told to find Albrecht, comes across Arthur, saves his butt from the CRTInfested and then we (in the frames) help pull him up from the ground where he collapsed in exhaustion and he says something like;
"Thanks, I owe ya one. I've never seen anyone fight like that."
And then we jump out the frame in Operator/Drifter and say something like;
"I've been around the block a time or two. How are you holding up?"
To which Arthur goes 'WTF You're a kid!'
What
The warframes are used like they where used In dark sector rather than like they are used in warframe
I hope it’s not in frames
Cool? That means dark sector is canon because?
Also hayden did some ninja stuff and used an ability
If it’s in frames it would just ruin it for me
Yes in a warframe
In a suit
Excalibur
The warframe project is significantly different than whatever Arthur has
You guys are also forgetting a couple major points @prime lantern @spring bear
DE was still a struggling dependent when Dark Sector released. The game was altered from their 'vision' and wasn't what they originally wanted to make.
1999 might be the Dark Sector that DE wanted to make but couldn't because of their publisher.
1999 might be a revisitation, or a rewrite, of the events of Dark Sector, to make them canon and closer to the original idea.
Well that's also quite possible
It would mean there's non-canon Dark Sector that was released before
and then the actual canon Dark Sector releasing in the form of 1999
I do no that DE at the time was rather struggling company at the time
Never said it was canon
1999 was just respecting what came before while not making it canon
Exactly
was
Guys I found Albrecht Entrati! This dude came from the future to tell us about the update! 😄
Correct
Warframe is what DE wanted dark sector to be
They wanted sci fi not the cold war setting they were forced to use
DE clearly wants to revist the idea of dark sector otherwise they would not make new quest like this
You do you im gonna go with what DE said
Also yea warframe is what de wanted ds to be so
Your arguments hold as much weight as Russell's teapot
Look I'm just making pure speculation about what I can see of the new quest
Idk what that means, but if you're saying that all of our guesses and theories hold less weight than actually playing them in the game...
Well duh, of course not. But we're here theorycrafting because we can't play it yet
Also there is no harm in making theroys about a possibility in them using maltiveres a thing they kinda have already if u think about it with the duviri paradox quest line
Where it was set In a parallel universe to the warframe universe
It was set in the void
Duviri is in the void
1 guy was from a parallel timeline
Duviri is basically an island in the Void
Yea that was formed from emotion and story

Rereading the new stuff
Albrecht didn't actually know about the tenno
Atleast the people writing didn't
The operator was just the name for the whoever was gonna pilot the vessel
It being a tenno was a coincidence
Initially at least, they definitely know by the end
?? The very first file in the Operator Report says "OUR TASK: Watch for the chosen OPERATOR. The Operator is a TENNO."
Think mediocre is saying did they know it was a Tenno originally
I was assuming the Operator Report was written sequentially, so that first part is before they know anything about anything. But maybe that'll get cleared up in the Update.
Me hoping that the cavia are sentinels's "server"
Also hoping that warframe 1999 take place in the period of the "great plague"
It would be funny to see that 👀
it would be funny to see old lore being recontextualized
Uh…I believe they mean the Great Plague mentioned in the Mire description
yeah the mire's description
It's a weird random fact that they've put
…okay, how is “Hunhow’s gift, carved from the bones of his kin. (Mechanic description)” the worst one
Carved from the bones of his kin
Yeah from dead Sentients. He says In the quest it's Older than even those you hunt.
Like where do you think a old Bow that Hunhow Has came from?
…okay, and?
I’m fairly certain that the Pakal armor (or syandana) also mentions it’s carved from Sentients
Yeah.
what is wrong with hunhow
Lots of cultures used their own bones for crafting
Nothing he just has all these Bones.
So he does crafts with them.
It's called upcycling.
maybe sentient know how to recycle but in their own way
I read it more as learning who the operator is
Essentially given parameters and then this person matchs them thus they might be our chosen operator
Yeah you can see them do that over the course of the reports. Initially they're called an Operator candidate, then during TWW it says probability is increasing, then at Chains of Harrow I think it says confirmed.
Right so I was just saying albretch didn't know about the tenno pre actually stalking them
Just that he needed someone capable of presumably inate transference
Or possibly other special powers
i think albrecht might have known but he didnt tell the cavia
at least in my opinion him having left the duty of "finding the chosen operator" is a nod to him knowing but no telling them
I mean maybe
again just what i feel with what info we have
That depends heavily on when the zariman was recovered, because in the requiem lore he says the “unholy zariman parade”, so he was alive when the zariman was getting ready for its voyage, but it’s unclear if he was alive still when it was recovered and the tenno discovered on board
By the time the zariman launched albrecht had already disappeared, thats why yonta dreams of him saying he's everywhere
The Albrecht Everywhere System™️, where you must now fight off Albrecht Entrati for even more power that margulis locked away, like void blast
I am so stuck on the Railjack part of The New War. I didn't know I had to level up my Railjack or my Necro and now I am stuck -_- Any advice?
How un-built is your Railjack? Any crew?
Because you can just assign crew to do engineering stuff and spend your time shooting and flying
And then went to sleep
Oh Jesus Christ Almighty
Your friend is a bad friend
what a terrible person
Not needing it optimal is different from not needing any of it
I think he was getting revenge for me leaving him alone in Minecraft for a few weeks
Anyway
and his way of revenge was locking you out of a game by giving you horrible advice?
Basically, yes
that's sad
Um.
i dont think you can, new war is uncancellable once you start it
I tried exiting and it said something about leaving the quest, idk
It should put you back at the start of the segment
i think it means the objective only
Not New War as a whole
wish you luck
Uhhh I forget can you raise Intrinsics mid battle or do you need to be at a relay or something
Umm
i think you need to have finished the mission to be able to change intrinsics
2 times the whole quest
Alright
2nd time would be a bit difficult since i remember you gotta time it correctly
I have no way to make my ship go faster
Thanks
yw
I may drag my friend into vc and make him guide me through it
It does not matter, since the second Railjack part puts everyone’s ship at the same speed and disables boosting
also, do listen to instructions, a LOT of people get stuck there because they ignore what the game directly tells them
Oh just like how when aotz launched people were complaining about the angel fight because they were all ignoring the npcs yelling at them to ram the orbs with their bodies
Or when people complain that they werent told how to deal with the archons in tnw when they skipped past hunhows explanation
Yeah!
also maybe spoiler this one since Gravenflame only just passed the first Railjack bit
would be funny if warframe go analog horror for the computer system
That would be funny
"Loid, your computer's haunted."
"Are you certain? I should look into that."
"Don't worry. I've got a tried and true solution." Reloads Corinth Prime
I am still on the Railjack
Gave up at 3am and am now back for more pain
Have you modded your railjack?
Nope
I made it through that first part
Ended up going around
How long on average does The New War take?
5 hours?
5 hours 3 if you’re faster
but I needed to replay some stuff since I had to go in for work
Welp. I get off work at 10pm, and I guess I will see how early it is when I finish XD
ehhhhhh War Within technically changes more, but The New War is the story quest that Warframe's been aiming at for half it's life
But at least the goofy ending make it even better
Would love to see him do a Hit & run against our railjack
Late spring next year
there's going to be a small Whispers update before that, plus probably one other update at least
calm down lol whispers hasnt even launched and you are asking when the next one launches 
Is there a specific date for Whispers in the Wall launching?
They will announce it during the game awards on the 7th
Nice
Is it common knowledge that the Warframes are being controlled by the Orphans of the Zariman?
Or at least, who does know?
The Quills, Little Duck, the Entratis....anybody else?
basically everyone that isn't like a low level grineer grunt with negative IQ
not many people know the specifics of how it works, but i think they have some idea of who's piloting the frames
It's MOSTLY secret but starting to spread.
Unfortunately it's starting to spread.
True. And the fact we need to void sling as the Operator to pull out Narmer veils means the prisoners get a front row seat to see us
Most believed them a myth others believe they are the warframes
If so, does that mean that the time we do speak in the Warframes, do we have lile a voice filter or something?
Cause imagine hearing the voice of a boy that haven't hit puberty coming out of Ash or Nidus lol
Holdfasts.
Teshin and thus the other Dax I don't remember her name.
The queens know, Parvos probably knows
Hunhow stalker varzia and teshin dax
The unum tower
Not common knowledge
Only Lotus, Quills, Little Duck, Hunhow, Entrati, Holdfasts, Cavia know
Barring the dead folks like Ballas
Little duck is a private contractor affiliated with the quills right
And not actually a quill
Yeah technically not a Quill. She doesn't even like them.
Really?
I mean, she works with them. But she thinks they're weird muckers.
"Quills. Shady, side-mouthed, doubletalking ambidexter-feeling muckers. Never trust anyone who don't speak plain." (LD fragments)
"That's where my weirdy-beardy Quill mate comes in." (Profit-Taker heist)
"Quills. You know what they're like. 'Power, Will, blah blah blah, co-author the future, endings and beginnings, nyah nyah nyah.' Honestly, I'd never hear the end of it." (LD dialogue)
"I don't know what to tell you, matey. Quills are a fussy lot." (LD dialogue)
Can't say i disagree
Does anyone have a link to the path the angry glowy people take in The New War Stolen Plates?
I am having such a hard time with the Boreal fight
Are you going into his bubble in smokescreen and shooting him?
Yesssss, I just finished the fight
So took me about an hour 🥲
What you mean calm down bro it was a fricking question also i tbought the quest that was being release was 1999
Whispers in the Wall in dec, then 1999 in 2024
Dang
Nice
You know the excalibur 1999 human suit kinda look like jetstream sam I like it
im so confused, where are we standing in the lore? since new war what has happened that has gone live. whispers and 1999 dont count
Angels of the zariman happened.
Duviri don't count since it happens before and after the new war at the same time.
The most recent point in warframe lore we know of, is angels.
(At least I think so, I may be wrong, if I am, please correct me.)
As far as the tenno go, yea angels, story in general, I believe veilbreaker is the most recent part of the story we've gotten. Unless angels was after VB I don't remember
Pretty sure veil breaker was more recent
That's what I'm thinking, I seem to remember harassing angels when the Veilbreaker update dropped.
Archon hunts, kahl missions, Styanax farm, archon mods
Basically "this is what the only other ally we maintained from the new war has been up to, oh and the angry hybrid things are back and on a weekly rotation"
Currently right out the aftermath of The New War. Last major development in the system is the return of the zariman
Was just saying it in jest
I realize i shouldnt have assumed you would know but in this server when people say something in jest or as a joke they put the hyekka emote at the end (this one
)
So, has anyone been able to decipher this yet?
The operating system could not complete
the requested action.
Try again later
Neat
Is this alphabet posted anywhere or?
It's a variant of the known Orokin scripts but there's a guide somewhere in this very channel
Which Archon is easier, Nisa or Amra
It’s personal opinion but people usually say it’s Amar
In the Quest, I’d actually say Nira.
She has no complex gimmicks besides ‘don’t let her hit you’ and ‘hit her when she isn’t attacking’
I hope this link works - I found a website that translates text to tenno, grineer, or corpus.
aw man... thats kinda sad. I think its posted at the bottom of the wiki page for the text.
Is the new faction…a fish?
it looks like its in the entrati labs, in some sort of tank
Ok one of the new characters, Fibonacci(which I’m assuming is the fish in the tank), is named after an Italian Mathematician
Where’d you get the name?
Reb's tweet where she reveals Arthur's VA and the new Fibonacci character's VA
The fibonacci sequence? 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55
(the next number in the sequence is the sum of the previous 2 numbers)
I wonder if thats gonna actually relate to anything in-game too.
I HAVE a second idea
What if they are all different minds put into random bodies?
Mayyyybbbeee. My guess is that Fibonacci is another scientist like Albrecht who’s like his lab assistant. Them being a fish tho is beyond me
That would be cool
ASTARION IS A CAVIA????
Fishyyy
Fishtarion
Bro looked at Silvana and said “I can do it better”
Nani?!
Did anyone else have their Drifter look basically the same as their operator?
Alright
He is a fish. I think the failed experiments is likely.
yep! I started by making my drifters face, then chose the exact same faces/balance for my operator. Same with my outfits, sometimes.
Mine needed no facial adjustment, they looked exactly the same. Was wondering if that was universal or if I just got lucky
Game will try to blend in the style for default if you don’t own one or receive him/her later in quest
Gotcha
story-wise it makes sense - your operator/drifter are the same person from 2 different timelines.
You don’t want a black drifter and a white operator vise-versa, how would that work
Very true XD
Hair color would also match as well
I am stuck on a new part now, very very close to the end
Which part now
At the part of the red mirrors, trying to see why I am not progressing despite destroying them
red mirrors? Is that the War Within quest when talking to the Kuva queens?
The New War
the final fight with ballas, right?
You use the drifter/operator to redirect the laser that ballas shoot at to the mirrors
then attack ballas, I think? or it might be just wait. I don't remeber exactly what happenes between
Yeah, watching a playthrough of the quest rn while I regroup XD
Yeah I'm calling they are all different animals
if there is a vermink, I will give it scritches for standing.
I just want to scritch all the critters
What is the faction called again?
how would petting the norg work?
Idk what that is, but I will find a way
Looking it up rn
Im not sure if we've been told a name yet. I don't think there was one in the gameplay demo.
have you killed all the deacon reinforcements?
Cavia
I was gonna say
I have
I know we have.
have you destroyed 5 of them?
Yesssss??? I wasn't counting
@obtuse gyro But yeah thank you and I think each one will be a differnet creature and i won't be suprised if they are like Orokin put into bodies of animals or experments to find a vessel and these where the prototype.
I have Ivara so going off the red arrows
that's my LOCK OF THE WEEK.
ok so who is shooting the beam now? ballas or lotus?
Lotus, which means there is still a mirror
I just can't find it
at this point I say screenshot or record what you see
ctrl alt R should work if you have the default xbox gamebar on your windows
Nope
You playing on a computer?
Yeah, laptop
You got a phone out?
Yep
Take a picture like that
either take a picture or f12
if we cant get video best we can do next is a still picture
Aim at ballas?
Been doing that, how many times?
Some the mirror go behind ballas and on top the map a little
That is not
No, that you can’t hit
Alright
more screenshots
Just go to a corner of the map and take it there to get a picture of the whole map
reset, that the only way I can think of if the game is bug
Do I send support a message :/
Like close the game and reopen it
Yay...
I thought after you got the mirrors, you shoot directly back at lotus
or at ballas? and his sheild?
That fixed it
restarting, or shootign back at lotus?
Restarting
I did it
After three, l o n g days, I did it
I know it got be something, I speed run TNW three times, I was board okay
Starting to feel like albrecht might have been dr doolittle
More like the creator of weird Frankenstein inventions
Would be crazy if he imprisoned Fibonocci in that little fish body cause of something he did
Idk if I'd describe that as "lil" fish body
Yeah he don't seem little. Also I could see them as experiments on like vessels and stuff.
So if that’s the Cavia and the Cavia are the Authors of the Report how do you think they get the info?
Idk
Secret surveillance on Deimos?
i feels like they just want to go with the "Since the void can do anything, what if ?" And then they expand on an omniscient fish who could be a future elidritch horror 🤔
the more the better i guess
Also if the fish was omniscient why would it be surprised by critical changes
But omniscient fish sound like a joke, idk what is albretch doing
tbf a fish would be suprised by anything
The only person I’ve seen who knows everything is GreyArchon
i wonder what the hell is the fish mean
I know there is something to search, i guess its name
"[...]When threatened it forces air into its brain to give it the impression of being much bigger than it normally is." Norg description
So his big forehead his is defense
don't tell me the mirror defense will be around him and his forehead will be the way to know if enemies are around 😭
I'll play it. 😄
But it would make so much sense if you think about it : The "cavia" or whatever this is is telling us to defend him while he do something for the vessel and then he need to TP to 2 different room 🤔 (and it could be that they would literally do the golden maw mechanic but for him 💀 )
The fact that he isn't seems to be armed from the necramech is kinda funny, like dude isn't even recognized as an living being maybe 😭
My thoughts are, the Orokin made the Cephalons, out of powerful/intelligent people who had skills that the Orokin deemed useful, and either wanted to prolong their life or punish them by removing their resistance or free will.
What if Norgboi there isn't originally a fish, but rather, a very skilled/intelligent person that Albrecht transferred to fish body?
With Cephalons It was a punishment in another case to save Suda
So you ain’t wrong
Fibonacci questioned Albrecht about Necraloid being a weird gift to Loid
Got fished
Who?
I’m just assuming Fibonacci is the fish because he’s in the background
By Grofit
Astarion snubbed her, so she romanced his VA instead. 
If I have to give standing whatsits to a norg to rank up with whatever syndicate is associated with Whispers I am going to cry myself to sleep every night I spend ranking up with that syndicate

Am I goofy when I say that I thought the fish on the plains of eidolon would normally be species kinda exclusive to that part of Earth, especially the fish in the ponds?
..........oh. oh okay this actually might be a real good joke
?
in Chinese mythology there's something called the Dragon Gate
basically a magic door on the top of a magic mountain, with a waterfall leading up to it
A fish that manages to swim up the waterfall and enter the gate becomes a dragon
This is the joke behind Magikarp and Gyrados for those of you who remember your Pokemon
Warframe already has dragon keys
Are you saying you’re sad fish tanks exist
Norg are baby Orowyrms confirmed
What I was trying to say is that how/why would Albrecht get a fish from the Plains of Eidolon? I assumed there would be bunches of Orokin towers scattered around Terra and I doubt the aquatic life in the waters around these towers would be the same : )

It's possibly the other way around, that the Orokin created the fish in the first place and released them into the oceans
Probably wasn't Albrecht. Kaelli/Sister was studying fish before the incident, so she probably had a bunch of fish species from other areas too.
The way they did Venus
…because he’s a high ranking scientist?
There’s statues of him on the Zariman, he could’ve asked for one
How are there Mortuus Lungfish in our Helminth system? They’re native to Earth
Or maybe he got a fish from Deimos it wasn’t always infested fish
We know what the non-infested fish look like, they’re mechanical
I mean, aren't we also native to Earth? Before the jump?
Imagine if that Mortuus ends up being an actual childhood pet we had.
There’s nothing saying where were native to
We don't know actually, it's entirely possible the Operator was born on the Zariman
Since it took years to finish prepping plus all the sabotage
All we really know is that the Zariman was an experimental colony ship sent to Tau using the Void, which we thought would be the fastest conceivable way there.
"Fastest" could mean 100 years, or less than 1. We don't really know.
Being native to Earth doesn't mean anything to their existence
Or rather, only being found on earth in modern Waframe doesn't reflect on their existence in the Orokin Era
It was the fastest but it had a little incident
Imagine if we find out that Norg are actually a native species of the Void.
Completely disregard everything we know about Void. Again.
We kinda do know, it was supposed to be instantaneous or near enough
Tau Ceti's about 12 light-years from Earth
the hell do they mean fibonacci
Like ???
Yes
We're going to have math class let's goo
Ever heard of a perrin number
We also have confirmation that Neil is voicing the fish. Dunno if that was posted.
Vampire voiced brainfish confirmed
Fish Prime
we have a better Picture of this fish btw
No we have the Norg on the plains.
and other fish on the plains.
I guess you might also wanna see the HQ fish lmao.
"normal" 
Is anything normal in Warframe?
Deimos has its own fish.
They are robotic.
That’s what I was saying
it looks like a dead body and has it's ribs exposed to make people think it's dead..
well I hope you wanted the HQ Fish with the name.
Deimos fish are actually a mix. There are some robots, some normal, and most infested.
also Daugther says like "even those that look orokin on the outside are still infested inside"
Like I think there's one uninfested variant of each, one half-infested, and several fully infested fish
my 2 ideas of who the rest of the NPCs are more fish people OR
a bunch of different animals.
Albrecht's zoo 
either way i think they are experiments of him trying to make vessels
There’s more than just Loid 1 and 2 and Fish?
and messing with transferance.
I don't think Loid metal is gonna stay in the Hub TBH.
also we need as many NPCS that are in Zariman if not more.
Necraloid's got multiple bodies, I think one of them might pop in
There’s 2 Loid in the Necralisk
One of them's technically Otak but that's largely because Otak was uploaded to Loid
yeah Also it's through A DOOR
Loid is on the other side of him and speaks sometimes
you can't see both of them at the same time so you can image he flies to the back room.
You can see both of them
I'm pretty sure that's because there are multiple (necra)Loid bodies
i meant you can't See the mining shop and the Necramech shop at the same time
not there are two of them.
Chassis? Drones? Actually not sure what the right word is there
If they can make Loid be in 2 places at once they can make it 3
Probably 'proxy'
Great word, thanks
I think there's only one Loid though, since we're pretty sure it's Albrecht's assistant uploaded into a sentinel-like form
Not just uploaded but it is an independent copy thats why we say theres two
Wasn’t his Daughter his assistant?
Albrecht? No, Euleria acted as Albrecht's assistant.
Euleria did assist Albrecht during his initial Void trip, yes
Is Euleria Grandmother or Mother?
I think they meant Mother
Mother
Grandmother is just Grandmother
Ah, news to me
You learn about it in the dagath room
Euleria is Mother, later named Gomaitru. She's forgotten her original name and Father gave her a new one.
If they all need another Orokin to give them a name how did we get one?
They didn't really. The name giving is equal parts the family knitting itself together as it is the family members healing their broken minds and souls.
Yeah they name each other as part of their healing thing. I'm not sure there's more to it than that. Although Grandmother's Dagath story does make it seem like there's a lot of power in a name.
A name describes purpose.
But we get named Ayatan
Because we were a star
i vote that we need the void cat as a companion he desserves to wake up
Is the void cat Albrechts?
yeah
What void cat
kalymos
Kalymos is going to be a kavat skin I think they mentioned
I need Kavat incubator stat 🥲
I named one of my Vulpas after kalymos so I feel small brain now.
Ok who called it
Fish leader
Lord of the Fish
Interesting how its one of the Vessels and not actually the fish
what?
that doesn't make sense what you just siad.
That is shown in the image with the tweet
cuz he is the fish.
I mean the Vessel in the background
okay.
I mean okay? but fibonacci is the fish
yes, he's commenting that it's strange to show the Vessel instead of the character that Neil is playing
Yea sorry if I wasn’t clear enough lol. Its hard watching the awards and trying to type at the same time
Is- is that a Norg? What in the void have I been missing?
lmao
Is there gonna be an announcement for Warframe or no?
Yeah, just taking bit
It's probably going to be toward the middle
Because they know a good chunk of the crowd is just here for it
WHERE
How long are the awards usually
Hour(s)
ASTARION NORG
Of it doesn't call me darling once I will riot
Norg is cavia, cavia is syndicate, max rank with syndicate darling rank? 
lul
the joke is Astarion from BG3 Says darling.
and Fibonacci is voiced by the same guy.
Yeah I figured but I was just having a fun time conspiracy theorizing an excuse for this fish to call us darling
ITS ON
ITS WARFRAME
PEOPLE
here we go
WATCH NOW
Albrecht!
13th
indeed
These six days are gonna be the longest six days of my life on JAH
Eeeeeee
The only short stretch of time longer than these six days were the wait from Hildryn Prime’s launch to me buying her prime access
The 13th better come by fast
I work all this month, so it will go very fast XD
Six days
Ain't it 5?
So what all will be in the release...
the new cinematic quest Whispers in The Wall
My iPad is completely stuck on loading the page XD
It’s the 7th, Whispers comes on the 13th. That’s 6 days but by golly do I wish it was 5 lol
WitW will probably drop much earlier in the day.
Mainline updates almost always go out at 11 am et
Sorry to be crass, if I’m only watching the Game Awards for Sevagoth and Whispers, is there any point in watching beyond this point? Does DE come back for an award?
nah you can pretty much leave now
Cool 
No you can drop, they weren't nominated for anything
be me
really want Albrecht’s hat
pester DE staff in Devstream Q&A for the hat
I get featured in the highlights of said Q&A
see that Warframe merch store has updated with a new bundle
look
no hat
BRB while I cry myself to sleep
I really wanted the hat, hopefully it’ll come in 1999? The reason I wanted it from DE is so I can support the game
About how much do you think an official Albrecht hat would cost?
An official Albrecht hat could run well over $100
Depending on materials and exclusivity window
I am going to cry, I have the money for it but I want to save it for school aaaaaaa 
That's why I suggested Etsy
Hmm… this is gonna sound super mega ultra uber goofy, I’m hesitant with Etsy because I’m giving an individual I know exclusively through the internet my personal identifiable info and I’m very paranoid about doxxing stuff 
Like I know that if an Etsy seller doxxes me for no reason, they’d be effectively kneecapping their career, I just can’t shake the paranoia that comes with spending too much time on the internet
No different than any online storefront getting pwned and putting all that info out there
True
Would it be possible to have my cake and eat it too by commissioning the hat through an irl friend that isn’t as scared of the internet and give him the money that the hat would cost plus extra for going through him? Would that be too many moving parts/hypocritical of me for putting someone who isn’t afraid of the internet as a front?
We both know where the other lives
That's not quite the same thing hahaha
What I’m saying is that if he keeps the money/hat, I can go to his house and get it myself
not if they suddenly up and move without warning
Ngl I hope cavia faction are just weird animals that can somehow talk (not just the fish)
Would be crazy to know that there is Kuaka guiding you for the netra cell
Wacky faction make the game better
The Fish is going to eat us as revenge for our treatment of all the other fish
It is the Fish God, Slayer of Tenno
It will make unreasonable demands of us, and we will be forced to do it's will
Albrecht calls us late yet says the lidless eye has seen us which I think he is a little late to late information
Hello, is this a new planet?
New void tileset
Stepping into the swirling sand circle in the hidden labs tileset likely triggers the tileset change
voidframe
Wallframe
It would be funny if it goes to old orokins lore like lorist
But I think it's literally fibonaci's old body
But why the hell would you do transference on a norg 😭😭😭😭
For Science
Maybe he is the first transference successful experience
Meaning that there is maybe people literally in a "dead" state around the lab
Man to a fish
What an upgrade
Still better than Woman to tree
Ngl... new warframe looks baller
True
Veso jackal fight is unwinnable
Absolutely unwinnable
Gg DE gonna have to wipe my account now
The first step in beating the bigger bot is pretty straightforward. Veso himself explains it in dialogue. You simply aim for the Jackal’s legs with your pistol, damaging one until it breaks completely. This sends the boss into a somewhat familiar attack pattern. It rises into the air, spinning in circles while it sprays the room with deadly laser grids. These are best avoided by standing behind the pillars in each corner of the room.
Notably, the best pillar to stand behind is probably next to the robot dispenser that can generate new Breacher Moas (those self-destructing companions Veso summons). Your Shield Osprey is less fragile and (hopefully) won’t require a respawn during the fight. Each dispenser sports an icon matching the type of robot it spawns. Just check the hologram!
Once you have your Moa and your Osprey, shoot away. The Jackal is vulnerable to direct fire when it’s spinning. This reduces its shields (the blue line under its health bar). When those drop to zero, the beast falls to the floor, stunned. That’s your opportunity to deal real damage. Specifically, you need to direct your Breacher Moa to stand right next to it. Shoot the Breacher Moa to detonate it — just like the debris blockades leading up to this point. If done correctly, you’ll shed one of two yellow health bars from the Jackal!
Just be quick about it; the Jackal is only stunned for so long. If you run out of time, it’ll return to normal attacks, and you’ll have to repeat the whole process over again.
Its definitely not unwinnable
It just takes a little quick thinking
EVRYTIME I DO TBAT THE JACKAL RETRETS
So here we have a quick little new war guide for the Jackal boss fight. If you didn't know how to kill it I hope this helps a bit. All in all it's a simple fast boss fight with Veso if you know what you're doing. Just shoot out the legs, shield, then use the moa to blow it up. Rinse repeat you have done it! Remember to shield the exploding moa a...
I don't have time.. I need to win this fight soon..like now
I could have someone else do it
The vid will let you win it
I could give my zbox acct toa friend have them do it
As in them playing on your Xbox at your house?
HES RETRETING EVERY TIME
Did you shoot him in the leg?
Did you shoot the Moa?
Yes
Id recommend just watching the vid I sent it might show you what step you’re missing
Bugged
It probably isn’t
Yes
I'd recommend that if it isn't taking any damage by the moa blowing up when the Jackal is staggered, maybe reboot the game. I've had a similar bug happen before, sometimes a reboot fixes the issue.
No his legs require more then 1 moa
Yes, done it a few times.
He has 4 legs
I'm sick I'm not thinking clearly rn
Relatable~
That stomp kills my moa more then anything
Even the shield moa can't protect from that stomp
Right do you have the gunner moa with you?
You can get the gunner moa to target the Jackal's legs
Gunner? I don't think I need him
Uhh... it'd make your life a lot easier bud.
Because if that targets the Jackal
The shields go down a lot quicker.
I'd recommend going up a level (up the stairs.) Get the gunner moa to target the jackal. From afar the Jackal can barely attack you so once it's staggered you can then send the bomber moa to blow it up.
2nd phase

Got him in beam mode, didn't get breacher moa in time 😦
No worries you can do it! 
BY THOR'S BEER GUT! 🍺 Got him trapped in a corner and pinned him
Is he in pain?
He's dead.. found a area not surrounded by lightning
Hence why I mentioned to use the stairs...
Problem is.. that scene is coming, stealth

Sneak past Deacons
Easiest part tbh lol
I don’t remember Veso part having stealth
Nah he be on about the part after you get stabbed. Incoming Drifter, sneak passed the deacons, yada yada~
No layer on as frifter
Oh that
Drifters have layers 

So the original WF1999 trailer said it would be in 2024, and yet they teased it in the trailer they showed at the Game Awards yesterday. Any thoughts on if we'll get some 1999 in Whispers after all, or did they toss it in there.... just because?
its not a thought, they confirmed in the last devstream that Whispers in the Wall will end with a lil bit of 1999
or to be more accurate "whatever you saw in the tennocon demo"
My theory was right lol
Oh, gotcha. Apologies, I wasn't able to see anything but highlights of the last Devstream.
Neat.
I'm fading here but just got to Drifter part... almost there
Thought you was already using Drifter
I... made it to Earth...was using Veso
Just gotta kill the three Geshin gods then... I can nap.
You’ll enjoy fighting the 3rd
I have 3 days of sick induced rage to vent on him.
Let’s hope you complete it before December 13th
What can’t?
The last part of the Fortuna stealth
It can
Would plat transfer for cross save?
Are you on the narmer factory bit?
I hated that bit
The canned food
You may still access and spend your Platinum while logged into your Warframe Cross Platform Save Account on Nintendo Switch. Any Items or Customizations purchased with this Platinum will also be automatically accessible while logged in on other platforms
That’s all we know
Then use the stairs
Then wait for them to move and go past them
The stupid thing won't thing open
The big door?
Yeah, you don't go through the elevator to the Vallis if I remember correctly
Where ro I gi
you go through a vent a ways before the door I think
He’s doing New War
Yes
I'm trapped by Deacons
The bit where you sneak through Fortuna past deacons? You gotta go through a ventkids-like entrance, right?
No you go through the door to Vallis
Are you in the Narmer factory?
You trying to get to the Elevator door to go outside?
Yes
And keep getting caught?
But in covered in deacons
You gotta run for it
Someone give me the path before I send my TV into the wall
Hide when they don’t look go
Took a break to pet a cat
Now I'm in the factory

I hate this part
HOW
HOW CAN TBEY SEE THRO WALLS
Once they see you it’s almost permanent
You complete it?
You finally met Grandad
Geshin God hunt
Plat can't be transferred over your accounts apparently.
So, example I cannot transfer my PS plat to my PC account. Etc.
Yes except for switch plat
All plat can be merged except for switch plat
Weird because I swear they said the console plat can't be merged. Unless I read something wrong somewhere.
Any Items or Customizations purchased with this Platinum will also be automatically accessible while logged in on other platforms. However, you must log in via the Nintendo Switch to spend any Platinum specifically purchased on that platform
Basically only switch plat is locked to its platform
Fairs
Basically Nintendo hate Warframe
Mario needs his stache oil money

Tbh Nintendo hates everyone.
And now. . We hurt
What?
The geshin gods, I'm fighting Boreal rn
Do you know the way to defeat him?
Boreal kept roaring and healing
You mean smoke
Yes
Keep healing then
Okay Amar, I'm stumped
Look for the one holding the weapon
I have good news!
New quest dec 13th?
Correct
How do you hover in neceomech
Aim
Jump then hold L2
That's
....I beat it...metric... that took... a long time
Remembering how to do that Ballas fight was... intresting.
I am n e v e r touching The New War again
Same.. that took a few days off my lifespan..
So I did NW then tried to do a text Rp.. and my brain went "Nope, you need to sleep, remember you're sick as a dog."
I know you've already completed this, but fun fact about Amar, the real one is the only one that shows up on the minimap since enemy radar is innate now
Is TNW really that buggy nowadays? I remember when I played it the day it came out it went so smoothly and was a memorable experience
It’s probably the least buggy quest only bug I ever heard of was Roommate being invisible for some people
The only bug I experienced on launch for TNW was my warframe being invisible in cinematics during the final fight with Ballas. It was funny because the camera panned to empty ground while the music swelled, with an Archon Shard and Paracesis just floating in midair.
Oh and there was one dialogue line missing from the Drifter mission on Earth
I definitely got locked during the final Ballas fight and had to restart
I had the fun glitch where my prime suit for my operator was on the man in the wall. Good times~
Though when I last replayed the new war I ran into an issue on Earth where I got teleported back down from the unum to the deacons and basically couldn't get back up to the Unum. (Restart fixed the issue.)
Such as~
Totally stealing your identity
I don’t rember if I asked this before and I can’t be bothered to search up if I did, am I goober for listening to Into The Void by Nine Inch Nails(the song DE used for the 1999 reveal) while also listening to the Albrecht logs in the Necraloid room?
Oooooh, makes sense

My work here is done
Short version of Duviri Paradox proper is that when the Zariman accident happened, the Drifter ended up as the sole survivor, and offloaded their out-of-control emotions into the courtiers, and their memories into Thrax
Assembling the doll represents them taking back those emotions and memories, until in the end they retake control of Duviri as its true sovereign
are all duviris canon (e.g: every operator has a drifter who made a duviri, they're just not in the same space or time or void place etc)? Or is it meant to be a "we are the chosen one" thing?
Its like the young wolf from destiny. There really only is "one", but everyone is that "one"
ahh yeah makes sense
but i guess that everyone being the "one" is more canon in wf than destiny cause of the void, right? Where the handshake could have been done by any of the tenno, not necessarily ours
ETERNALISM, BABY!
That is finally a proper use of "its eternalism"
Not really, its more like whoever "you" are is the "chosen operator" to quote the cavia
Indeed 
A secret huh
Shhhh it's definitely a secret~
Does anyone have a link to the different parts of the companion from Son and how to get each part?
Uh the wiki pages for the companions have a breakdown it looks like:
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Predasite
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Vulpaphyla
But the gist of it is: you need a wounded animal from the Cambion Drift, and the other two parts (mutagen and antigen) are built in your Foundry from blueprints you purchase from Son. You need fish parts to craft them, too.
Time to go stare angrily at the fish
Or do the Requiem Obelisks
I have no idea what that is, plus I enjoy staring angrily at the fish
There are broken Obelisks scattered around the Cambion Drift with a Requiem symbol floating overhead. If you shoot it with your Operator, the Obelisk will reassemble and start doing stuff and Infested will spawn. Doing certain tasks (varies according to the glyph, usually involves killing Infested with your Operator) will drop a bunch of Deimos resources.
But if you like fishing that's fine too. Probably a faster way to get specific things.
I am terrible at fishing, but I have fun XD
I just started the new war and why should I care about this random grineer so far
Scratch that he’s a Chad
homie found exactly why we should care about that random grineer
So Lotus and I just died so that’s cool
You cannot kill the Devil Tenno
God can but yeah ballas is dramatic
That’s ballas right?
Yeah
But, you can send it back to Hell.
Who tf is narmer
Basically Sentients
New faction comprising of sentient forces under the command of Ballas and Erra
I was so happy that The Stalker got a tiny redemption arc
He was just following orders
The mission where you go to them is called the enemy of my enemy and the fact about the enemy of my enemy is they are still my enemy
Let me have my tiny bit of happiness from that nightmare of a quest
Stalkers redemption seems near
Him and hunhow no longer have the warm comfort of old grudges
And stalker got his entire world shaken in tsd
Hunhow still hates us
Perhaps yet he doesn't have the comfort of Old grudges
Stalker was just following orders
Wait I have to choose between operator and drifter?!?!?!
It’s not permanent
Does it change anything significantly?
And do I get to choose between operator and drifter anytime?
what is this?
Second dream teaser
Ive already completed the second dream...
They didn’t remove it
oh intresting
The actual text is the Lotus tracking someone (probably Stalker) tracing your location and breaking the trace
How do you trace a cloaked ship?
by triangulating the ship's IP address
even when you're invisible you're still beaming out signals
So Operator should’ve used a VPN?
That’s normal
You mean the knock-knock-knock and the whispering? Yea its been like that since this years Tennocon
Incorrect
The knocking has been there since 2020
wut.
