spoiler-chat

[wise snow]

i mean yeah but i just think a lot more could’ve been done. Too short imo and i was disappointed by the fact that it wasn’t even really a war.

[viscid quarry]

Fair enough but Atleast it answered a bit of things… only to open a hundred and two more questions

[wise snow]

@viscid quarry https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/rhs9oy/new_war_is_a_major_disappointment/

this summarizes what i mean pretty well if you want to read it, but yeah this quest confused me a lot

[viscid quarry]

Fair

[prime lantern]

I think ballas and hunhow should've swapped

Ballas would've been a significantly better unwilling ally

[viscid quarry]

I’d say that’s not how ballas is

[wise snow]

he would probably betray us if that did happen

[nova harness]

Ballas is master manipulator

[prime lantern]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

[graceful zodiac]

Ballas would never have helped us, everything's shown about him up to then wouldn't have allowed it

Giving us the Paracesis is the only "help" that works

[prime lantern]

Considering the sentients had him literally on a leash the enemy of my enemy would've worked just fine

Up until erra went "lmao he's not actually on a leash it's just an act"

[nova harness]

I still wonder how Erra was alive to begin with

[zenith jacinth]

Everyone does

[zenith jacinth]

Because it was an act. To make natah think he's harmless. The master manipulator.

[graceful zodiac]

Not really, there were still many questions about what was really going on until then. Ballas helping us did not track up to then

[zenith jacinth]

Ballas also gave us the idea of paracesis just to take it from us later

[real niche]

Why are there so many "kill Lotus" people good lord

[wispy jasper]

Mommy issues probably

[nova harness]

Ballas had Gf issues

[tepid basin]

where do I go to accept Narmer bounties?

[stray lynx]

Ballas literally plotted the destruction of the entire human race because his girlfriend wouldn't sleep with him.

Anyway, he's gone now. Now it's Thrax and Wally's turns to be metaplot baddies.

I wonder what marvellously petty motivation Wally will eventually be revealed to have?

[nova harness]

Escaping the Void

[stray lynx]

I hope it's just going to be getting his fingers back.

Break the universe in two because some Orokin nerd stole your fingers.

[lusty basin]

Funny, I'm not sure he even cares

If anything, it gives him some presence as he can communicate through them.

Also, as a long time player, I'm excited that Vor is coming back after a long hiatus.

[woeful jacinth]

Same place as regular bounties

[tepid basin]

yeah I wasnt just not seeing it

[autumn turret]

it flip flops based on time of day on poe

[tepid basin]

I got a caliban part now

so how does caliban work? Every cycle can get a new part?

[autumn turret]

yea every time it rotates it should change which part is available

[tepid basin]

cool

[stray lynx]

Looking forward to it. Wally needs a henchman anyway.

[lusty basin]

Yeah, and wondering if they are going to change him up any.

Wait a minute...

Teshin says this is an army that is yet to form, mostly composed of corrupted... I was assuming he was meaning Wally was making an army... but Corrupted Vor has been the one leading Grineer to get corrupted.

Also, Vor isn't fitted with a neural device on his head.

The dude has been a ticking lore bomb, and DE finally going to set him off..?

[wise snow]

everything new about him, like the post i mentioned they made his character so much worse than what i feel like it was

and also can we talk ab teshins “death”

i literally didn’t even realize he was dead till i finished the quest and googled it

[lusty basin]

Well...

[wise snow]

quest just didn’t compare to what the past ones did imo, which is unfortunate

[wise snow]

did he survive and they brought him back or smthn in the new quests

[prime lantern]

Yea

[wise snow]

ok well that’s good then

ignore what i just complained about

[prime lantern]

He's an old man now

[wise snow]

whatttt

[lusty basin]

He suffered a pretty nasty head wound too

[wise snow]

does he got a beard

[lusty basin]

Yes

[prime lantern]

He can't leave duviri either

[wise snow]

damn that sucks for him

[graceful zodiac]

Half that post is overexpectation, but it also fully ignores Ballas' defining trait. He hates the Tenno. It's not some tragic story when Ballas was in every position to stop it

[wise snow]

i feel like his other motivations could’ve overpowered that though

[prime lantern]

He's just not a very good villain

[wise snow]

and i mean yeah it was over expectation but even if it was a fraction of that

[prime lantern]

He has no redeemable motives

[lusty basin]

Or traits

[graceful zodiac]

His motivations were petty revenge

[wise snow]

like at a point i feel like his care for margilus would’ve overpowered his hate for the tenno

[prime lantern]

He's just evil incarnate

Which I think suck as a main villain

[lusty basin]

He was a spoiled brat, like most Orokin

[prime lantern]

It further perpetuates tenno being the objective best and everyone else being the objective worst

[graceful zodiac]

His hate for the Tenno would only increase because of Margulis dying. He literally directed the Sentients to kill us first

[wise snow]

that’s true

[graceful zodiac]

I can agree that the lead up to him actual being the one in charge is a bit lacking, but Ballas was everything he'd always been

[lusty basin]

You know what is crazy and has potential? Narmer and the Archons are basically planning to INVADE Tau, not reunite with the Sentients there.

I am actually hoping we actually end up helping the sentients there.

[graceful zodiac]

I won't say that a full stretch, but would need to go over Pazuuls lines

[wise snow]

yeah i was confused when it went from erra to him

[lusty basin]

Well, Pazuul is most likely just the mouthpiece, not the leader.

Lotus senses that the Archons harbor hatred for the Tenno and the Sentients

I don't even think Ballas was ever intended to be kept around.

Hunhow got played, Lotus got played, Erra got played. The Sentients got played.

And like a cycle, their own creations now seek revenge, like the Sentients did against the Orokin.

Just keep in mind what Lotus says, less on what Pazuul says, as he's more the figure in Ballas's stead.

Pazuul/Erra is actually an absolute mess, puts on a good show for the subordinates, but he's just a puppet.

But back to Ballas, absolutely irredeemable, and yeah, poor villain as a long term, hence he didn't actually last too long as compared to other WF villains. There wasn't a lot to run with. But this is why I like Hunhow and was happy to see him in TNW.

Hunhow could've been utilized more, since as a villain he actually has a motivation that goes beyond himself.

And to move past his hatred shows even he's capable of growth, unlike Ballas.

Other villains I find are even greater offenders of being gratingly static: Sargas Ruk, Worm Queen, Vay Hek, Alad V

And Lech Kril... well, he's not even a character. 🤣

[prime lantern]

Ballas lasted like 4 quests

The only named villain that lasted longer was hunhow

[lusty basin]

True, but he's also one of the few who got a confirmed death.

[prime lantern]

Important villain

[lusty basin]

Hunhow never actually died.

[prime lantern]

Yea

[lusty basin]

And he got redeemed.

Oh and Stalker, he's been around for a while too.

[prime lantern]

He definitely wants to kill us too

Neither like us

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

[lusty basin]

Well, not so much post-TNW.

[prime lantern]

He's still out enemy

I doubt stalker has given up his crusade against us either

[lusty basin]

Game mechanic VS lore. Plus the current standpoint with us may get teased at Tennocon.

So we'll see then

[prime lantern]

From a logical standpoint I doubt stalker has given up his crusade against us

[lusty basin]

His crusade against us was pretty much purely weighted on our murder of the Orokin.

[prime lantern]

Yea

[lusty basin]

But now he helped kill one of the last remaining of the original leaders of the Orokin

So his position right now is pretty awkward

[prime lantern]

He helped save the origin system

And also cause his boss told him too

And hunhow still doesn't like us considering we murdered alot of his people

[lusty basin]

Yes, but we also saved his daughter, whom he clearly still loves.

And we may also be the only chance he has at saving his son too.

Sooo... it is very complicated.

He's also had to swallow what pride he has left.

Right now, we share an enemy too: Narmer

Things aren't as simple as enemy and friend. He doesn't have the luxury of old grudges, he even said so himself.

He has to make a decision for the fate of his family, and his entire species

As for Stalker, DE also said they are working on story content that will be more of him being playable.

So as far as story goes, we may be seeing an end to him as an enemy.

But obviously, game mechanics remain for the sake of his drops.

It is only logical though, even as an enemy, Stalker hesitates.

And he's been disillusioned to his golden lords.

Hunhow even noted that his hate was weak, back when he was actively trying to kill us.

[lusty basin]

And Hunhow is realizing he's been played.

So, logically, there is no luxury for old grudges, especially when they've been revealed to be largely mislead. That and Narmer is a threat to everyone. Sentient, Tenno, Grineer, Corpus, etc.

Well, not Void and Infested, Void is a threat to everything too and Infested... well, infests.

Honestly I think Narmer is just going to get used by Wally.

[tepid basin]

Hunhow has the Warhammer book of how to make friends.
"The enemy of my enemy is also my enemy."

[lusty basin]

If/when we finally reach Tau, I'm pretty sure we're going to end up working with the native inhabitants, especially if it involves an open world.

And likely the only reason we would go to Tau at this point would be because of Narmer

And Narmer is forming an army to go there.

So, between the dialogue and hatred the Archons have for us and the sentients, I can kinda see where the story is going there

[nova harness]

Wasn’t Narmer pretty much decimated by end of New War?

[cyan crest]

Leaderless and scattered is not decimated

And they're not leaderless anymore

[supple dagger]

What are the chances for the "war" blueptrint to drop

[woeful jacinth]

2.77% chance of dropping

[supple dagger]

[zenith jacinth]

I got two before getting one broken war bp

[viscid quarry]

I doubt their in tau and if anything I expect a system with VASTLY different sentients because I’m not sure if the current sentients we have now can be compared to the ones over there especially the worlds (for all Ik the sentients could be a bit more friendly and divided then well narmer sentients and ones under hunhow)

[prime lantern]

I want tau sentients to be our enemies

[viscid quarry]

I agree there just saying it’s a possibility actually hold up let me get a pic to show what I think sentients in tau would look like (it’s from google)

[zenith jacinth]

[viscid quarry]

Got two and I’ll be honest this is all I found and it’s from a heavily outdated fan idea for a update

Not great but it’s something

[mild marten]

I'm returning after many years, and am wondering if I should play through the Heart of Deimos questline before or after playing through The Second Dream, or beyond? The farthest I got before was through Natah.
I'm in the middle of The Heart of Deimos right now, but they've mentioned ||fighting Old War style||. Plus, this seems to be an ||Orokin family|| I'm dealing with.
Will playing through THoD spoil things for older quests?

[autumn turret]

no

at worst it'll plant some questions in your head

[mild marten]

sweet. It's kind of weird talking to ||Orokin|| when I still don't really know who or what they were though.

thanks

[lusty basin]

I just remembered a funny:
Me early in WF: I think the void is alive, it looks almost like eldritch organic forms of matter floating around.
People: Nah, those are just clouds.
Now:

Is this what the people aboard Zariman were thinking just before disaster?

"Those are just space clouds."

[solar kernel]

Im new in this game

I need to unlock more planet earth missions or unlock other planets what should I do?

[tepid basin]

Back in the days, I would urge new players to do these junctions. Junctions forces you to explore a bunch of features and let you understand what it has to offer.

So yeah, new planets, id say

[brazen garden]

progress star chart

[prime lantern]

You'd still be wrong the void itself isn't alive wally is

What wally is will remain a mystery

[cyan crest]

Wally could be the void itself personified

Potentially

[frail nymph]

#players-helping-players

You will have time later on to "fully finish" every planet.

But right now, your priority should be to get to Uranus and Neptune as fast as possible. Only worry about things like weapon modding after enemies become difficult to kill. And don't forget to build a couple weapons from Market blueprints while you're at it. (Weapons that you personally find interesting)

[true oar]

When are we getting hildryn in the circuit?

[nova harness]

Week 11

We on Week 6 rn

[fathom nexus]

Oh no there isn't protea in list!

[nova harness]

Nope

Still gotta get it old fashioned way

I still wonder why they put Excal on the list he’s the 4th most used Warframe which pretty much everyone uses at start

[fathom nexus]

Gotta put the poster boy in every content, specially week 1

[supple dagger]

They put every Warframe that currently has a Prime on the list so it kinda makes sense even tho there’s no way to get Excal Prime

Equinox is the only Warframe that’ll probably never be on the list cause of the unusual way you craft her

[nova harness]

You mean it needing day+ night

[supple dagger]

Yea

[autumn turret]

yea she doesnt fit in the circuit

as in literally doesnt fit

i believe dojo frames are also not on the list

[woeful jacinth]

Citrine sadly isn't on the list either

[zenith jacinth]

9 individual bps would fit

But they probably want to keep the rewards varied

[prime lantern]

Maybe have the sun and moon parts in the track

Like fully crafted

[zenith jacinth]

That could work

[wild wind]

I think that's just because they need 3 Warframes to make a new rotation. Citrine should be in by the end of the year.

[balmy storm]

Isn’t it only frames with primes on the circuit list?

[graceful zodiac]

It is

With a prime that can't be gotten from the Dojo

[nova harness]

Excalibur?

[graceful zodiac]

What about them?

[nova harness]

The prime you can’t get from dojo

[graceful zodiac]

Yes? Excal has a prime and can't be gotten from the Dojo.

[zenith jacinth]

Circuit only has frames that have a prime and can't be gotten from dojo. So no volt, wukong, banshee, zephyr, nezha

[autumn turret]

you dont get primes from dojo...

[fathom nexus]

What u saying bud

People mostly get primes from dojo

One player to another lol

[warm heart]

Kcin means the tenno lab frames, not trading

[autumn turret]

moreso atsiaZ was saying only things with a prime that isnt also available from tenno lab which nemesis misunderstood in a way that doesnt make sense

[whole prawn]

Do we have a more specific date for Kullervo

[zenith jacinth]

Soon™

[tepid basin]

so Im beginning my first Tenet Sister thing, but its been a while I did liches and the like

I remember I need to have the correct combination of requiem mods starting from the left, as I recall, but I dont remember how to force a meeting with them

nvm I figured it out

[nova harness]

Requiem ultimatums both a blessing and a curse

[tepid basin]

I forgot how hunting liches and the likes can be difficult

but I swear next time she shows up and gonna shove my parazon so deep that shes going to turn into an exotic gun

I killed my Sister of Parvos and shes still there?

how many time must I kill her?

[woeful jacinth]

Are all your requiem mods correct?

[nova harness]

You need the correct order then kill it

It will go to Rail-jack

Then you kill it again

[tepid basin]

yeah

[nova harness]

Then chose to kill permanently or convert

[tepid basin]

how?

she fled

[woeful jacinth]

Go to the railjack mission

[tepid basin]

oh

[woeful jacinth]

I think it's the Neptune proxima

[tepid basin]

oh ok, theres a railjack to do after, thanks

[woeful jacinth]

NP

[tepid basin]

I got my gun

[fierce pier]

I am stuck on the wild hurt ughh

[nova harness]

What?

[fierce pier]

I mean wild hunt stupid auto correct

[nova harness]

What part you struggling with in it?

[fierce pier]

The bosses part

[white elm]

She is struggling with the archons

She tried boreal but she couldn’t do it

[nova harness]

That’s easy

All you do is go invis then go into his bubble and attack cancelling his heal

Then attack with bow

[fierce pier]

I try do that wolf and couldn't do that

[nova harness]

Leave the wolf till last

Do the snake and Boreal first

[fierce pier]

I was do owl wolf snake

[nova harness]

Snake and Owl are easy

Wolf will be a cakewalk when you get to it I promise

[zenith jacinth]

Snake and wolf are easy

[fierce pier]

Ummmm oh boy

[nova harness]

All 3 are easy tbh

[zenith jacinth]

Owl has electric procs

[nova harness]

Owl is literally just hit and run

[fierce pier]

Wolf is heat

What is the bow of

[nova harness]

Nataruk

It’s probably sentient energy

[zenith jacinth]

Which is much less deadly than shock procs

[fierce pier]

I been uses my frame lot

[white elm]

The bow is sentient

[nova harness]

Sentient energy

[white elm]

Yup

[zenith jacinth]

Sentient as in the race, not the aspect

[fierce pier]

I forgot already ughhh

I was listening to my music

[nova harness]

Forgot what?

[white elm]

Bluebear calm down

[fierce pier]

Is it three or two to get your frame

[white elm]

2

[nova harness]

2

[fierce pier]

I thought 3 my brain

[zenith jacinth]

"We are required to remind you that the Nataruk will never threaten to shoot you and, in fact, cannot speak.... In the event that the Nataruk does speak, we urge you to disregard its advice."

[white elm]

No the third one is with your frame

[fierce pier]

I miss my voruna

[nova harness]

Then fight the wolf last it will be Wolf v Wolf

[white elm]

Can we all agree the sentient bow is really cool in the reason that it’s a bow with punch through

[nova harness]

Way funnier

[viscid quarry]

Snake isn’t easy

[nova harness]

They are all easy

[white elm]

Owl was easy for me

[nova harness]

All Archons are easy

[viscid quarry]

I’m that case uhhh avoids how many times I died to stage one nira with drifter

[fierce pier]

TwT

[white elm]

I wish they gave harrow a deacon skin

[fierce pier]

Pfffff

[zenith jacinth]

The only archon I struggle with was/is boreal because shock procs are deadly

[zenith jacinth]

It'd have to be a deluxe

[nova harness]

It was hard for you doesn’t change the fact they are easy

[white elm]

I’m fine with that

[fierce pier]

That why i am going owl wolf snake i am leaving snake bc i got mag prime

[white elm]

She started as a mag main

[zenith jacinth]

Deluxes usually come with at least 1 extra cosmetic. Maybe the scepter as a staff skin?

[white elm]

Or a cape

[fierce pier]

So try to go in owl bubble

[zenith jacinth]

Cape

[white elm]

Yes

[nova harness]

You need to activate smoke screen to enter it

Before it heals shoot it

[fierce pier]

Are you serious

[white elm]

I just aimed for head and listened to doom/NIKKE soundtrack

[nova harness]

All Archons are easy once you learn their patterns

[fierce pier]

But i am a slow learner

[white elm]

Agreed

[viscid quarry]

Fair

[zenith jacinth]

I started playing dark souls not too long before tnw came out, and somehow the controls felt very similar
Made it much easier for me

[fierce pier]

Well i be listening to my music

[white elm]

I play a lot of gta and fps shooters mostly battlefield and cod

[nova harness]

Muscle memory

[white elm]

Yup

[zenith jacinth]

If it's a game genre, I've probably played it at least once

[nova harness]

Have you played GTA

[zenith jacinth]

No

[fierce pier]

I am switch

[nova harness]

Yeah you can’t get it on switch

[zenith jacinth]

That one remaster collection was on switch for a very short time

[fierce pier]

I been playing ummm fortnite lot

[zenith jacinth]

I have like 2k hours in that. Stopped playing about half a year ago because my one irl friend also did

[nova harness]

I played Fortnite once it crashed when I was in the last few never played again

[viscid quarry]

I Played for a while got bored then quit

[nova harness]

It’s pretty repetitive tbh

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah

[viscid quarry]

Understatement

[white elm]

On my old account I played since gunrunning but around when the 10th anniversary started I got locked out of that account but I still play it now on my new account

[viscid quarry]

Rip

[white elm]

I miss my old account

[viscid quarry]

What mr was it

[white elm]

17

On my new account I’m mr10

I still remember the old way of mining

[nova harness]

Old way?

[white elm]

Where you’d have to draw around it

I miss those days

[viscid quarry]

Aka people decided to draw things on other people

Like say a di-

[white elm]

Yes I made a lot memes

From amongus imposters to my favorite was a target

[viscid quarry]

I’m aware I missed it by the time I joined tho so big sad

[white elm]

Yup

[white elm]

I miss drawing homer on the plains

[nova harness]

Poor Homer

[white elm]

Yup

[supple dagger]

So hear me out, war prime

[nova harness]

You’d have to ask Stalker for that

[supple dagger]

Stalker prime

Hunhow prime

Hate, despair and dread prime

[nova harness]

With his signature War Prime with a backup Hate Prime

Normally only dropping a Dread Prime on death

[prime lantern]

War prime would definitely be a conundrum to make

[white elm]

Glock

Prime

[supple dagger]

Ok hear me out, excalibur umbra prime

[nova harness]

Already exists

[real niche]

Be Chinese and have a time machine and it's yours

[supple dagger]

Prime umbra?

[nova harness]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Excalibur/Umbra_Prime

[supple dagger]

Woah, cool

[abstract minnow]

So damn drippy

[white elm]

I wonder when are we going to get a tommy gun type weapon in warframe

[supple dagger]

That would be cool

Ok heres another one

Excalibur prime umbra prime

Or

Volt prime 2

[white elm]

Bruh

[nova harness]

Volt Umbra

[supple dagger]

Oooo

Umbra version if any frame would be cool

[white elm]

I’m waiting for rhino to get an actual passive

[nova harness]

Wdym?

[velvet wing]

Isn’t his passive that when he does a drop from like 30m+ he does like 100 damage to enemies

[white elm]

His passive is terrible there is a mod that does the same thing as his passive

[white elm]

Yup

[velvet wing]

Such damage, very pain, much ouch

[supple dagger]

I like to use rhino for ground slam builds

[white elm]

It be nice to see his passive to be more fitting for the heaviest warframe and a front line tank

[supple dagger]

Just turns into a tank

[white elm]

I do

[supple dagger]

Transformers, robits in disguise

[velvet wing]

Some passives just are better than others

[supple dagger]

Ignore my spelling mistakes

[white elm]

His hasn’t ever changed

[velvet wing]

Wisp goes invisible and rhino is like I land extra hard

[nova harness]

Warframes Humans in disguise

[white elm]

I wonder if I should make another Pokémon in warframe

[fierce pier]

I done it!!!

[nova harness]

Done what?

New War?

[white elm]

Yup

[timber tundra]

wish we got an fully customisable warframe, from abilities to appearance, an warframe so unique everyone has their own and no one has the same unless someone copies others

[prime lantern]

Me when power creep

[wispy jasper]

I’m already not really down with Helminth myself

[prime lantern]

I like the concept of helmith

[vital creek]

Eh it’s kinda neat but also seems like a bandaid for some abilities just really sucking

[frail nymph]

It's a bandaid if you use it as a bandaid

It's a lot more than just that

And if a frame is fixed by a single bandaid, that's great. Better redirection for Devs to focus on frames that need help first.

[zenith jacinth]

Looks at hydroid

[viscid quarry]

Late but congrats (there’s still more also play around with naturak it’s stupid broken)

[scarlet basalt]

Hydroid could actually work great with just some tinkering on his kits.
Maybe a small for his 1 so it remove armor (and the augment could be something else like : each hit = AOE),and shouldn't scale tbh
His 2 should be "faster" and drags enemies (but not specials one like eximus) with it so you can send it to his tentacles, and his 1
His 3rd should have a very fast casting speed and is used as a safe place but with a lot of cost
His 4's damage should just scale and have a non random placement

But i just noticed that if they do it like that : oh yeah the afk farm will be insanely high with hydroid 💀

Inaros, should just get a full rework, but as a tank...
Like he could get some DR or whatever, his sand storm could be actually better if it could act like : each status inflicted will be re-applied (with damage) on enemies. Yes each time it hit
His 1 idk, pocket sanding doesn't sound great
his 2 exist...Idk what they're going to do with that but wow it's bad

[zenith jacinth]

Hydroid would be fine if they just gave his abilities good scaling damage

[zenith jacinth]

Pocket sand works good with innodem because it's his subsume

[scarlet basalt]

Yep, i think his 2 and 3 could have some tweaking to make it more logical to his kit
As i've said, his 2 could drag enemies so you can send them to your 4 and 1
His 3 Could be for emergency tbh, this could work great like this
But i think his 1 with current augment is actually great if it scaled lol

[wispy jasper]

I think I would try leaning harder into his abilities sacrifice health for scaling. More scaling on health missing and more emphasis on ways to juggle vampirism to stay afloat at low numbers. Allow him to remain the boring health tank for general purposes and give some more risk/reward swings for being brave with him.

Tough part would be distinguishing that from Revenant, but I think big health bar is the one “cool” idea Inaros has going

[wet nimbus]

Love pocket sand, it's a hilarious ability

[zenith jacinth]

And nidus does it better by having health regen, although at the cost of lower overall health

[supple dagger]

If DE ever decides to rework frames, Hydroid and Inaros probably need it the most, IMO

[prime lantern]

And a couple layers of immortality

[zenith jacinth]

Add 5 tauforged health regen shards and that won't even be needed

[warm cave]

DE NEEES TO rework a lot of things. Starting with the incarnon weapons!

[viscid quarry]

And how would they change them

[zenith jacinth]

Incarnons are one of the things that don't need reworks

Aside from the felarx incarnon form being a straight downgrade

[balmy storm]

Its fun tho 👀

[stray lynx]

There's individual balance changes and bugfixes needed, but the basic mechanics of incarnon weapons seem just fine.

[zenith jacinth]

Downgrading from good shotgun to slow, weak, zero-aoe pistols isn't fun

[prime lantern]

Warframe needs to rework its difficulty system entirely

[stray lynx]

Will be interesting to see how Soulframe handles its difficulty.

Will give us a good look at how DE builds a new system from scratch

[balmy storm]

While it definitely does not perform as well as the shotgun form I’ve found the dual pistols to still be pretty good and fun, sure they aren’t fast but it feels good to hit stuff

[prime lantern]

Warframes idea of difficulty is making enemies just take longer to kill or make then functionally immortal

[balmy storm]

In my experience it hasn’t been that bad either, definitely not as good, but not terrible
Just very different

[prime lantern]

The boss fights for the most part just suck

Vor literally just takes a knee

[vital creek]

yea theres never any real chance of failing, its just a matter of how long you have to endure

[prime lantern]

Krill guy just doesn't let you damage him

[balmy storm]

I’m really glad Duviri’s dax enemies are a little more challenging, same with the eximus, telegraphed strong attacks are a step in the right direction
At least in terms of fighting an enemy

[prime lantern]

Moth and the deimos fight are the best fights

Because who doesn't love giant lazers

[balmy storm]

Seeing that an attack is coming and messing up makes me want to get better and pay more attention
Getting hit by something I didn’t even see is just annoying and confusing

[prime lantern]

I think boss fights need more mechanics around them

Instead of just shoot man

Like when the wolf archon clones himself

I think what should happen is

The wolf clones himself and himself and the clones start pouncing the player(s) the clones do no damage but when the real one pounces its a quick time event catch suplex the real one

The real one can be indicated by like glowing eyes when it pounces or something

[flat shadow]

AOE works for uncovering the real one

[supple dagger]

I mean you literally can identify which is the real one cause the real one is the only clone that has weapons in its hands, the rest don’t

[prime lantern]

That wouldn't really work if they're pouncing you

[supple dagger]

I meant currently lol. Like that’s one way how you can find out which ones the real one

[prime lantern]

Or just spam aoe

Also the suplex thing would look cooler

[thorn parcel]

I am losing my mind, does anyone know how to get down there

found it as soon as posted ofc

[viscid quarry]

There’s a cave entrance near the back

Oh wait

[near rune]

Spent a long time trying to translate this sign in Duviri, only to find out it's just a copy of this sign from the Relays.
But it's all scrambled for some reason. The sign in the Relay says "You are the, hope and future, of the Tenno."
The sign in Duviri says "The, hope of the are and future, Tenno." and "Future are the, hope and of the Tenno."
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
They could have put some interesting lore or even just something that sounded cool, but they reused a very old text asset and then mixed it up for… no reason?

Also lore-wise there really shouldn't be anything in Duviri referencing the Tenno, but at this point I don't think this is intended to mean anything.

[balmy storm]

Void interference, they’re totally picking up signals from the relay in duviri

[supple dagger]

…ok now translate the Orokin text that’s on Loduns little tablet

[balmy storm]

I bet it’s the same as Quinn’s

Which might make more sense somehow

[fallen verge]

replaying kahl missions no longer yields extra stock if u have completed all the objectives u did. is that intended or a bug?

[prime lantern]

Intended I assume

[fallen verge]

cuz it said i earned 60 stock and i got absolutely nothing

also this veils broken counter is broken. i broke 5 veils.

stock is still at 30 regardless

[near rune]

I took a bunch of screenshots but the image quality is bad. I'm waiting to get the Upperhaven Captura scene to get a better view.

[supple dagger]

There’s a clearer version of it somewhere on the Warframe Reddit I think

Think it’s this one

[near rune]

Oh wow. I can work with that.

[supple dagger]

Gl with translating it. Hopefully it has something interesting on it and not reused text

[near rune]

Yep, so Lodun's tablet is the same as Quinn's tablet, which is a manifest of the Zariman passengers. You can see the 3rd line on Lodun's tablet says "Brack O.3", who was the guy who wrote the Arecibo message during the Zariman ARG. So Lodun's tablet is a repurposed asset, but it's not quite as useless as the "hope of the Tenno" signs. Quinn's tablet makes a bit more sense as he was, after all, on the Zariman with the Drifter.

It also then raises the possibility that the random citizens in Duviri (not the known named characters) have the same names as the Zariman colonists… if you wanted to read a bit too much into Lodun's tablet.

[steady gate]

This just occurred to me; we have equal proportions for Thrax’s courtiers as we did Zariman Holdfasts. And they (vaguely) have similar main emotions.
2 male, 3 female.
Quinn, Cavalero, Yonta, Hombask, (deceased) Kira
Bombastine, Lodun, Luscinia, Mathila, Sythel
This probably means nothing but I think it’s a little interesting

[supple dagger]

Can’t wait for Archimedian Yonta to turn into an Orowyrm

[steady gate]

I mean…she IS a void construct shaped into a person

[autumn turret]

another way to read way too much into it is to think that each of the characters are also inspired by someone on the zariman, i could see quinn inspiring lodun because one of quinn's tasks was to send people to be executed

[scarlet basalt]

I wonder if updates concerning duviri will be focused on something weird like : the executor
Like : IT seems that Kullervo has a warden that seems to be some kind of Void ballas
But it kinda make me wonder if each update could have some link to other executor like : nihil,tuvul,etc..

[river willow]

i doubt that any other executors were chucked into the void like ballas though.

[zenith jacinth]

Tuvul got killed in a place with extremely strong connection to the void

And besides, ballas wasn't thrown into the void

[river willow]

i mean his body wasn't there after we killed him. and there was a void portal

[scarlet basalt]

i meant as a representation.
Weirdly the warden has the literal pose of ballas in the quest "The sacrifice"
Maybe this would give some insight on who are the executor

That could have been crazy if they've implemented Tuvul as something frightening and tyrannical in duviri
Like the drifter has a constant fear of him and unintentionnally made him in duviri, reflecting that orokins were feared by everyone 🤔

[final depot]

Quick question is the acolytes event retired?

[zenith jacinth]

What?

The event that introduced them has ended years ago if you mean that

[final depot]

It used to be a recurring event

[zenith jacinth]

You sure? I don't remember hearing about anything like that

[prime lantern]

They'd shown up from time to time

[velvet wing]

Yes the acolytes used to be a recurring event but with them being permanently attached to Steel Path the event no longer happens

[scarlet basalt]

I think yes.
Their mods have been moved to Deimos's reward
They appear occasionnally (every 3-5 minute) in each steel path's missoin

[zenith jacinth]

I think they spawn every 7 minutes? Remember reading that, might be wrong

[final depot]

I know they got added to steel path and their mods can be found on deimos now but I was wondering cus of the event

[supple dagger]

Interestingggg

[near rune]

Acolytes used to show up once every year or so but most of the original Shadow Debt event (which was larger than just the Acolytes) has never returned. Acolytes stopped reappearing after the Deimos update put their mods in the drop tables, and then Steel Path brought them back.

[nova harness]

I forgot they were even a thing the last time I even heard them mentioned was when Alad helped us in SD I believe

[raw anchor]

finally inaros chassis

next is systems then i have set done

[wild copper]

Quit while you're ahead

[scarlet basalt]

No, they spawn between 3 and 5 minute
But it also mean that what can happends is : you have an acolyte every 3 minutes if you're "lucky"

[opal rapids]

"Hey you're going really slow through this exterminate, want me to try to kill you harder?"

Is the ||stalker|| intrinsic canon or just for the lulz

[lusty basin]

Literally a paradoxical existence but DE has heavily implied there will be more to him in the actual lore with gameplay.

[stray lynx]

I do hope he gets an update. In this post-Lich world he's just not a real nemesis anymore.

[frail nymph]

There's nothing Paradoxical about the existence itself of Duviri.

Well, not for the Orokin/Entrati/TA student

[stray lynx]

The drifter and their escape is the paradox. Duviri's timeline itself makes a fair bit of sense.

[frail nymph]

The escape that happens after the end of the quest is a paradox, sure

[stray lynx]

I agree thiugh, Duviri itself isn't paradoxical, even if it runs on Narnia time

[lusty basin]

More like groundhog day time

Also wasn't talking about Duviri specifically but the existence of Stalker in Duviri.

But that may also be the divide between gameplay VS lore.

Either way, DE stated that the Stalker saga isn't over and that he'll be playable fully eventually. So while Duviri Stalker may have no lore, it may just be an echo of what is to come.

[pliant spade]

soo, seperate questline like veilbreaker for stalker?

[lusty basin]

Maybe

They were vague about it

But were clear it was PvE, but they also said they won't be doing Narmer content for a while

[prime lantern]

Eventually we have to time travel

And stalkers story could be perfect for that

We either physically time travel or just go into his memories

[autumn turret]

where did they say he'll be fully playable?

[lusty basin]

Well, suppose it could mean side-content like with Kahl, it wasn't clear, but in the AMA when asked about playing Stalker outside Duviri, they said that there are plans to continue Stalker's story in some PvE gameplay and they wanted to do something (hopefully) this year if everything goes well.

[autumn turret]

not finding any mention of stalker in their comments from the ama

but it just means they didnt refer to him by name

as im only looking at their replies

ah here found a better thing

[DE]Rebecca: Currently, no, but if things go according to plan (fingers crossed) this won't be the last you see of Stalker in 2023, but what that actually means you'll find out at Tennocon (not PVP lol).```

so "fully playable" isnt really garunteed here

just something involving him

and definately not stalker mode

[lusty basin]

Yeah, but it is more in the line of "maybe" I admit, but better than a "no"

[autumn turret]

i wonder how much more powerful stalker mode would be with him being able to use the kit he has in duviri

because what i read made it seem like he just.. didnt have abilities

[lusty basin]

Honestly, I feel like the Stalker we get in Duviri is essentially a test.

[autumn turret]

his kit is pretty sick

[lusty basin]

It is, and he's pretty good at what he does

But if they were intending a full playable Stalker, I imagine he'd have to have a kit that is even more unique

Because the Duviri Stalker is more like an Ash variant with beefier damage potential.

[obtuse gyro]

tbf we do have a semblance of that type of kit in M4D ash, just without the nyx 4

[grave beacon]

Can someone help me

[obtuse gyro]

with?

[cobalt gate]

day 1 praying for gauss prime

[final depot]

Perhaps he found the help he needed in alll of us

[stray briar]

why is their no dual zoren prime

[timber tundra]

no the right question is, why can't we get Garudas talons riven mod

[zenith jacinth]

Because the same is the case for all other exalted weapons, which the talons technically are

[supple dagger]

He’ll come out after Wisp Prime dw my friend

[cobalt gate]

@supple dagger really?

[supple dagger]

Yea he’s the next in line. Then after him is Grendel Prime

[cobalt gate]

@supple dagger So I won't have to pray every day to have Gauss Prime and to mention his name being the fastest?

[supple dagger]

Lol no they’ll announce his Prime some time after Wisp Prime gets released

[cobalt gate]

although just in case I will continue praying every day

[supple dagger]

His deluxe comes out with the next new update so that’s something to look forward to in the meantime

[raw anchor]

tips for patient zero quest: Very easy, infested sabotage then u kill a boss warframe took me like 5 seconds with loki so with any other frame it should be easy

[ionic sleet]

Sir, this is a Warframe server.

[kindred forge]

I'm so curious about what they said now

[dull path]

They were trolling with spoilers for something outside of warframe

[cobalt gate]

day 2 praying for Gauss prime

[final depot]

You guys excited for more spoopy void stuff?

[nova harness]

What?

[icy ore]

Spoilers about one piece

[final depot]

DE said man in the wall is next up in terms of story or leading up to it right?

So we getting more spooky stuff

[pliant spade]

they r trying to make warframe become horror game

[opal rapids]

Also, raptaptap

[pliant spade]

yeah, chains of harrow

[brazen garden]

rap tap tap

[nova harness]

Hey kiddo

[supple dagger]

Say what you want but i always jump when i hear "hey kiddo"

[nova harness]

Aren’t you used to it by now

[white elm]

Not really

[supple dagger]

The hey kiddo catches me off guard because i have an astronomicaly low chance of having it happen to me

[nova harness]

Sometimes for me it shows up but because he’s probably spawned at back of Orbiter I don’t know where he actually is so I just hear a voice

[opal rapids]

It seems to happen way less often as Drifter in my probably incorrect experience

[nova harness]

Nah it’s just random

[hushed skiff]

hi

[final depot]

Fact that WF has these small details makes me love this game

or when the error warning message shows up in orokin language

[zenith jacinth]

That is a small lore detail and a second dream teaser

[final depot]

RIGHT so it makes it even better

[scarlet basalt]

This si crazy but i dont' think we've ever seen the place were styanax is standing from the latest news.
Like call me crazy if you want but something is stirring 👀

I thought that it would be duviri with those spike but duviri has spirals like snail 🤔, there's no "spiky" form that are not a land limitation

[lusty basin]

Well, Duviri isn't the void corruption.

But hm, lemme see

[scarlet basalt]

maybe tau 🙏 ?

[lusty basin]

Kinda looks like the Earth tileset

Well, wonder what they are going to reveal

[scarlet basalt]

Weird room

maybe, it could be an approach to the "deep void" ? Like the layer deeper than the undercroft 🤔

[lusty basin]

Or wait, is that the Umbra place?

Dunno

[balmy storm]

What’s this from? 👁️

[scarlet basalt]

Warframe announcement for Summer game fest 2023

[balmy storm]

Ooo

Can you link it by chance?

[scarlet basalt]

https://twitter.com/PlayWarframe/status/1666145237218066432?s=20

WARFRAME (@PlayWarframe)

Don’t miss this year’s Summer Game Fest for the biggest announcements, world premieres and more!

Watch for 30 consecutive minutes with a linked Twitch account to receive a free Styanax Warframe Drop with a pre-installed Orokin Reactor and Warframe Slot! https://t.co/9iT1a52ZGf

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[balmy storm]

Thanks!

Yeah that just looks like Duviri

The light you pointed out is from Duviri

[scarlet basalt]

Ohhh i thought that Duviri doesn't have a light
And it's the first time i see the world grim like that (thanks to my potato)

[balmy storm]

Duviri has light posts

It’s def the undercroft

[scarlet basalt]

I thought it would be layers under the undercroft
Like somewhere in the deep void, which could be something to be hinted at 🤔

[balmy storm]

Just looks like the undercroft

Which is part of Duviri

[scarlet basalt]

undercroft new maps maybe
Could be cool to see more variation, even tho every undercroft maps are open area which bother me in gameplay 🤔

[balmy storm]

Might just be an area for the promotional shot

But the undercroft has everything that pic, notably it looks comparatively overcast/foggy but they may have done that to keep the focus on Styanax

I really wouldn’t be surprised if it’s nothing more than a backdrop for promotion 🤷‍♀️

[scarlet basalt]

for the biggest announcements, world premieres and more!
Maybe, they will announce future content 🤔 ? Tbh they have a lot of road to work on contents that are "unfinished"
Like naarmer,3rd orb,infested (arlo likely which could bring infested liches),railjack content,etc...

[balmy storm]

I think “biggest announcements, world premieres and more!” Is referring to what the summer game fest is, not specifically what Warframe is doing

[flat shadow]

Yeah. Warframe's "Biggest announcements" are usually during Tennocon.

[scarlet basalt]

it's weirdly phrased, like it's between : yeah they will talk about the game...Or not ?

Summer Game Fest is heating up for another year and Warframe is helping highlight some of the white-hot announcements, world premieres and more!
😭 wth are they doing

[balmy storm]

They’re promoting the game fest with a warframe as incentive for watching
I kinda doubt they’re gonna announce some big thing since that’s more a tennocon deal
We might see the date for Kullvero’s update but that’s about it tbh

[balmy storm]

It says right there, they’re highlighting them

[scarlet basalt]

Oh yeah you're right, they will drop kullervo's trailer
Because we havent' seen his gameplay and all.
And i think the previous summer game fest they've participated was also an annoucement for an update. (railjack i think ?)
But since they've talked about : oh yeah we're on track on some type of "story" , maybe it will be a little hint to a little more than kullervo 🤔

[balmy storm]

We might get details on the Kullvero update
Key word: might

Also they specifically didn’t show his gameplay during the devstream, I think that was entirely purposeful

We also know what’s coming with the Kullvero update outside of lore so 🤷‍♀️

I really doubt we’ll get much more than a release date, if that at all

[scarlet basalt]

I hope kullervo's lore will talk about his "operator" or whatever could control it 😭

[balmy storm]

They better talk about he came to be

His existence within Duviri makes no sense

But also
Void weirdness, so who knows

[scarlet basalt]

it is funny that Teshin talked about : yeah you shouldn't use your warframe ,it could attract an orowyrm
THen there's kullervo (7 of him lol), just chilling.
Maybe kullervo is way more dangerous than we thought and that 2 warframe in one place could distort thrax's power lol

[supple dagger]

I’m only excited for those mini lore quizzes that are in the prison island lol

[balmy storm]

Well there’s at least 7 of him we see, though they may all be the same entity just split, he has some similarities in design to Dominus, his themes of betrayal fit with Dominus and he’s definitely not apart of the Drifter’s creations as Warframes are post-jump creations, meaning they didn’t exist at the time of Duviri’s creation

They’re def gonna have to explain his entire existence

[scarlet basalt]

tbh duviri has a very interesting way to keep up the gameplay, this is interesting now that they've done "Lone story + kullervo spawn" type of gameplay, like if you want to have precise things, well good luck.

• Kullervo seems to be a little more harder than thrax enemies, even faster lol

[balmy storm]

They’re doing an event to guarantee Kullvero’s prison island spawns and it will continue to spawn during certain moods

Iirc it’ll be 2 weeks long

Def gonna take some pics of the prison island during joy, the tonal difference will be funny

[scarlet basalt]

Tbh, i find it weird one things : why drifter is getting executed ? (any backstory of them pls), is kullervo going to talk about drifter's backstory ? Like what if it was to be "their" frame 🤔

[balmy storm]

Warframes didn’t exist prior to the old war, which happened way after the jump
Kullvero couldn’t have been made for the Drifter since Warframes didn’t even exist yet

However Kullvero is here it’s a relatively more recent event
Probably

[zenith jacinth]

Drifter was getting executed repeatedly because dominuuus didn't want them to leave

[balmy storm]

Again, Kullvero has similarities in his design to Thrax
His overall design is very Duviri
And the themes of betrayal fit nicely with Thrax feeling betrayed by the Drifter

[scarlet basalt]

The 7 sins of drifters lol
Nevermind maybe not sins

[balmy storm]

I really doubt Kullvero’s origins have anything to do with Drifter

They didn’t even know what a Warframe was til the events of the paradox

[scarlet basalt]

which mean that kullervo is literally unknown origins
Literally the case of revenant prime 🧠

[balmy storm]

Revenant prime came from the void

[woeful jacinth]

Ballas is gonna be mad

[scarlet basalt]

Ballas when he is going to talk about kullervo prime : "Fatherless,voidesque,grotesque, i hate you from the deepest of my heart"

[balmy storm]

Kullvero technically did also, probably, but I still feel his origins relate to Dominus
His whole design points to him
One of the crimes may have been that Dominus just couldn’t use him either

Ballas really shouldn’t know anything about Kullvero unless he was a Warframe made to go on a void expedition

It could be possible Ballas created Kullvero for void exploration and he somehow ended up in Duviri but wasn’t a suitable play thing for Dominus for 7 reasons and thus was both split and imprisoned

But I’m inclined to think that Kullvero’s origins relate to Dominus and his feelings of betrayal
Possibly being a much more recent event in the timeline, post paradox.

[zenith jacinth]

The 7 clumps of kullervo

[scarlet basalt]

OHHH i just thought about : what if kullervo's brain was "scanned" by duviri ?
And then once the uprising against the orokin, he was jailed because of him being linked to the tenno+ Duviri
Which also means the 7 crimes and so he got jailed
And also it could explain a little bit why the warden has literally ballas's pose in The sacrifice 😭 but that's a big stretch

[supple dagger]

Or it could be like a Revenant Prime situation where Wally pooped Kullervo into Duviri and made him look like Dominus just for the laughs

[balmy storm]

The 7 oopsies of killvairo

[balmy storm]

One of the crimes was his fashion sense
Only Thrax can have that weird handle thing

[balmy storm]

The Orokin didn’t know of Duviri

[supple dagger]

Yea or Dominus got offended that someone else looks like him

[balmy storm]

“That’s my look! 😡”

• Dominus Thrax (probably)

[scarlet basalt]

Yep, it kinda make me inclined that maybe, dominus may share more about the orokin in this update 🤔 ?
Like 7 isn't a random choice, it must be about the orokins since they're exploring the Orokin way more than before.
This must be about the Seven 🤔
It could be that Drifter has some "vague" memories about who they were and could share with us what happened during orokin Era

[zenith jacinth]

The 7 hooplas of cooler voe

[prime lantern]

Hoooooopla

[supple dagger]

Yea the 7 Principles and the 7 Crimes are for sure related

[zenith jacinth]

And the seven

[scarlet basalt]

Somehow we always return to our roots and talk about orokins
Like even MITW is related to the orokin 😭

[zenith jacinth]

Everything is the orokin's fault in some way

[scarlet basalt]

Seriglass glass weren't enough protection, now suffer from horror beyond our understanding

[zenith jacinth]

Grineer? Orokin made them. Corpus? Orokin greed resulted in parvos making it powerful. Sentients? See grineer.

Tenno&warframes? Orokin

[supple dagger]

The fact that Garmi(Mathilas husband) worked in a Seriglass lighthouse so that he could try and keep Wally at bay is making me think that Seriglass is something special. Either that or it’s just a major coincidence

[scarlet basalt]

I love how ballas made warframe a thing, because they wanted to control them, not thinking that they can't as loyal as a dax.
Or they wanted to wage war against life form beyond SoL maybe so they assert their dominance over the galaxy. Which could only make sense, with their pride and psycopath nature

[zenith jacinth]

Orokin? Orokin.

[zenith jacinth]

Or it's another case of duviri taking something from realspace and changing it to fit in

[viscid quarry]

Infested? Orokin
Deimos being the way it is? Orokin
The zariman? Orokin
Naberous stories? Orokin
The heart having a heart attack? Orokin
Varzia? Orokin
Regal aya? Orokin
Basically everything? Orokin

[zenith jacinth]

Naberus thing is probably just a halloween story

[scarlet basalt]

I think that garmi took up the role of the "scholar" (albretch), like he taught him how they can try some "ritual" to work against MITW.
Seriglass's process could have been taught by albretch so Garmi can defend duviri from threat that even thrax fear 🤔

[supple dagger]

True that could also be the case

[viscid quarry]

Still blame the orokin

[zenith jacinth]

Nah

[supple dagger]

Well Albrecht was in Duviri at some point, we just don’t know exactly when besides the fact that he came before the Bleeding Earth

[cobalt gate]

guyys

i haqve a question

[viscid quarry]

Oh come on it may be the story but blame the orokin for messing with the ostrons in that story

[scarlet basalt]

"Is it i who escaped, or the other" Could may be what is playing ?
Either that or the fact that he stopped taking kuva but didn't talked about not going into void expedition after witnessing this horror of a man.
Maybe he is always travelling through the void to search for "survivor" ? People who can actually stand against MITW and have maybe a chance, even if it's small.
He know particularly that he may have caused a potential apocalyspe...But if there's a chance...

[cobalt gate]

i know this is not the chanel but i have confiance with yorichi

[viscid quarry]

Ok what’s the question

[supple dagger]

…it’s about Gauss Prime again isn’t it

[cobalt gate]

I have been scammed if I bought the complete plan of ivara prime with neuroptic chassis and systems for 100pls

[supple dagger]

Oh nvm

[cobalt gate]

what is nvm

[zenith jacinth]

Most human halloween stories aren't much better

[viscid quarry]

Ik but I need to find a way to blame the orokin for that also

[viscid quarry]

It means nevermind and we’ll check the warframe market but I’d say yes as there’s no way that costs 100

[zenith jacinth]

Blame the orokin for twisting the purpose of halloween

[viscid quarry]

Ok there there’s that

[supple dagger]

The last we heard of him was that he was gonna stop taking Kuva and wanted to die but he then went back into the Void again for “repentance”

[cobalt gate]

😦

[scarlet basalt]

YEp, maybe he is trying to find a solution deeps in the wolf maw ?
So he keep travelling , teaching ways to stand against him 🤔 ?
We may meet him on tennocon 👀 ,i do hope...It would be one of the most craziest encounter to see him tbh

[viscid quarry]

Yeah your not getting it back either that guy probably is too unreachable at this rate and won’t give it back however you can get a Chassis and make Ivara prime (or sell it off with chassis as a full set)

[minor goblet]

U got ivara prime set? Also what platform u play on...

[viscid quarry]

He plays on ps

[cobalt gate]

nothing happens I learned from this experience now I will take care of myself more

[supple dagger]

I mean he could still possibly be somewhere in the Void since he just disappeared from Thrax’s kingdom

[minor goblet]

Lowest for i vara prime on wf.market atm id 65 pl

[cobalt gate]

I can still spend 23 euros more
🤑

[supple dagger]

The island he lived on was Scholars Landing but it could come back just like the prison island

[scarlet basalt]

Yep, Yonta and Teshin talked about the deep void, this may be our next destination Post angels of the zariman/duviri?
It would make sense. Like Tenno/drifter talk about everything so far and may get a plans for the future 🤔 ?

[viscid quarry]

Just use warframe market more its better then trade chat which will and has before scammed people out of their plat

[cobalt gate]

@viscid quarry The sad thing is that it was there where I bought it for 100 platinum

[viscid quarry]

Ah so yet another one

Try and help new players about to do that btw good way to try and stop it slightly

[cobalt gate]

i am new player

master 6

[viscid quarry]

Ah

Have you found anyone to help you out or a clan

[cobalt gate]

i dont have clan 😦

[viscid quarry]

Oh look for one then

Check recruitment channel in warframe or ps clan recruitment in this discord

[young jasper]

Just beat the second dream quest. The ending was absolutely crazy

[nova harness]

Enjoy the free Sword

[pliant spade]

don't use broken war to craft war

[deft rampart]

anyone else feel drifter combat just feels so slow and clunky compared to warframe combat, that duviri overworld is just their least favorite part of all of warframe, or is that just me?

[pliant spade]

y u compared cyborg space ninja with regular human?

[wispy jasper]

It’s a change of pace. I don’t mind it. Just wish it was more difficult and had better hit and block patterns and such

But I also think regular warframe melee is garbage so I’m more inclined towards it

[vital creek]

the opposite easily, duviri actually feels like it has the potential to be a balanced gamemode without a complete rework of pretty much everything

[lusty basin]

[dull path]

Dude's going to get kicked if he keeps it up

[lusty basin]

So this is a recurring thing, eh?

[cobalt gate]

Day 3 praying for Gauss prime

[balmy badger]

It's Wisp Prime, was shown last devstream.

[nova harness]

Wasn’t Gauss released after wisp

[balmy badger]

The male male > female female cycle messes with that sometimes.

We were on the female female cycle, Hildryn, and now Wisp.

[zenith jacinth]

Then gauss and grendel next iirc

They should make them a double release since they're buddies

[serene crystal]

bom dia, alguém está tendtendo problemas em resgatar o prime ?

[lavish furnace]

does it matter who i pick?

[cedar reef]

Its just who you finish the mission as.

I did Drifter, personally.

[lavish furnace]

so drifter yeah

ok thx

[nova harness]

I wonder what skin is most used

[tepid basin]

I gave her her hat back

[nova harness]

You didn’t because she got a new one

[final depot]

I like ninir paradox alot tbh

My only wish is they add drifter combat to regular wf as an option

EVENTUALL

[zenith jacinth]

Maybe they're using regular lotus?

[zenith jacinth]

Op/drifter melee will never be a thing outside of duviri

[final depot]

is it stated somewhere?

[zenith jacinth]

DE said it during a devstream

[prime lantern]

That'd be awful unless it was like some boss fight 1v1

[final depot]

Oh okay

FEELSBAD but understanblae

[prime lantern]

In general gameplay it wouldn't work for the type of game base wf is

[zenith jacinth]

They intentionally removed the old melee attack that op had

[prime lantern]

Void clap?

[nova harness]

I wonder why DE removed Void blast

[zenith jacinth]

Because of this

[real niche]

This was long before Duviri though

[stray lynx]

Based on the undercroft bug where you can spawn as drifter down there, drifter combat in regular Warframe is not fun

Drifter is a fragile little bunny

Who reacts super slow compared to a frame

[nova harness]

Can’t do Warframe better than a Warframe

[frail nymph]

It was never useful other than as an ability for things like unairu.

So they turned it into the 2nd ability. Just like how some of Void dash's stuff went into the 1st ability
That way, if it feels like an ability then it is an ability button, and E is reserved for fluidity of combat between operator and Warframes modes.

[pliant spade]

space mom

[torpid lantern]

Didn't they remove void blast and just replace it with an extra melee button? I didn't think there was an actual Op ability replacement? Just the ones you got from the various schools

Besides useful is all in perspective. I personally had a blast using it

[prime lantern]

):

[balmy storm]

Some got turned into abilities but not all iirc

Zenurik’s slow for example

[torpid lantern]

Aaaaa don't remind me if Zenurik. I miss my lightning

[wild copper]

i miss void dash

[supple dagger]

Yea it went from void blast melee to just switching back to your Warframe when you melee as Operator

[woeful jacinth]

Weirdly enough, if the operator bugs out you'll be able to use void blast

[obtuse gyro]

<@&778745217037238293> third day in a row from this fella

[velvet quest]

Cheers

[cobalt gate]

Day 3 praying for Gauss prime

[twilit geode]

Won’t be for awhile. Next prime is Wisp. They’ve already confirmed that.

[cobalt gate]

i know

[zenith jacinth]

There is no point in praying for something that's part of an established schedule. Just be patient.

[nova harness]

Can’t make everything move as fast as gauss

Schedule be schedule

[viscid quarry]

Wait what

[fathom nexus]

Just blast the operator

[strange pier]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[balmy storm]

It happens on occasion, it’s funny
Notably the void blast anim can also be seen when interacting with the paradox sometimes

don’t remember what caused it but it happened and it’s goofy

[mild marten]

how do I equip an arcane to my operator? Do I need to first complete the quest that changes transcendence into transference? The last quest I completed is The Second Dream.

[forest elk]

i assume u would need to do war within yes

[vital creek]

you do

[unkempt zephyr]

after war within only then you unlock operator completely

[strange pier]

Finished new war 😄

That made me like the drifter waaaaaay more than duviri

[pliant spade]

if u play as drifter, no matter what amp u use. they'll always use sirocco

it just visual

[cobalt gate]

i surrender to pray for gauss prime

[fathom nexus]

U have committed a gauss crime

[icy ore]

Since gauss and Grendel got out at the same Time, will their prime do the same ?

And will they get a prime leverian

[wispy jasper]

Doesn’t seem like they intend to make leverian a regular thing, so I would absolutely not expect an expansion to existing frames there.

[zenith jacinth]

"Prime leverians" aren't a thing, and I doubt they'll ever be

[zenith jacinth]

Leverian was supposed to be a regular thing

[wispy jasper]

I don’t know about “supposed to be”, but you couldn’t call the release schedule regular for either the cards or lore

[zenith jacinth]

Every frame was supposed to get one, but it ended up just not being high up on the priority list, and now we have barely any

[solemn ice]

what is the old war

[strange pier]

The old war was the war between the sentients and the orokin

[nova harness]

We joined in and ended it

Then murdered the Orokin

That’s why Alad calls us betrayers

[solemn ice]

okk

[strange pier]

Hater alad

[solemn ice]

whos alad

the guy from jupiter?

[strange pier]

Ye

[nova harness]

Yes

[solemn ice]

nyx is better than valkyre right

[near rune]

Some warframes (Atlas and Nezha) receive Leverians when they get a Prime, but seeing as Gauss and Grendel already have Leverians, I wouldn't expect them to receive another. No frame has ever had 2 Leverians. I guess we'll see. Also, Gauss and Grendel were not released together, even though they were planned to.

[nova harness]

You’d think for best friends they would be

[zenith jacinth]

Completely different frames

[solemn ice]

which one would u choose

[zenith jacinth]

And barely anyone uses nyx, while valkyr is a common melee frame

[zenith jacinth]

I don't like either one

[woeful jacinth]

Nyx is crowd control
Valkyr is melee

[agile minnow]

(nyx can be literally a custom slower Valkyr with the 4th augment lol)

[tepid basin]

which is rich considering Alad is the first guy who would betray anyone

also I was scrolled up... I hate when that happens

[frail nymph]

But technically Tenno did it first...

Alad is pseudo Tenno confirmed alongside Teshin and Clem

Aside from Pseudo Orokin evidently

[nova harness]

We betrayed the Orokin

Tbh Orokin had it coming

[elder dome]

Tbh Who haven’t’we’ betrayed

[real niche]

All the open worlds

[nova harness]

Teshin

He betrayed us tho

Forcefully though

Kickbot we have never betrayed but it has betrayed many players

Lotus betrayed us we never betrayed her

[graceful zodiac]

Literally no one besides the Orokin. We have been steadfast allies with every faction that wants it

[nova harness]

Kahl is friendly with us

[elder dome]

Clem is best fren

[nova harness]

Lol

[elder dome]

I wish I could get clem as a pet (not spec)

[nova harness]

But he’s a Clone not an animal

That’s almost like saying want to keep a human as a pet

[nova thorn]

Well, it unfortunately wouldn't be the most inhumane thing that'd have been done to the Grineer

[nova harness]

No but still it’s just wrong

[nova thorn]

Oh yeah, definitely

[nova harness]

Most are forced into service as it is

[scarlet basalt]

It seems that DE literally announced that infested liches will be there ?
Meaning that there is a chance that a lot more infested weapons are going to get released 👀
Like not only variants but more things maybe

[nova thorn]

Where was this?
Ngl, I'd love some infested adversaries, though it seems strange to implement.

Like how does it happen, do you stab a special Broodbother or ancient and create a new hybridized strain?

[zenith jacinth]

How did I completely miss drifter going "Whathefuh" when za lotus hando grabs their arm at the start of the paradox quest

[main spire]

Brain not focused probably

[scarlet basalt]

Gaz TTV said that it's 200% true because on prime time they hinted/said a lot that infested liches will come eventually
Ngl it will surely make arlo and devotee way more frightening than before

Ohhh there's also someone that talked about a wizard warframe would be great in this game what do y'all think ?

[zenith jacinth]

It'd be a boring combo of the various element frames

[scarlet basalt]

Lavos V2

[zenith jacinth]

Chroma V2

Lavos executed it well

...no.

Lavos just adds elements to his abilities

[scarlet basalt]

Tbh with how weird the game design can be, they can somehow make a warframe that is drastically different so a wizard frame could be very like : similar to Hack & slash ? Hack & slash have a tendency to have some concept like a most stationary class but deals a lot of damage, this could be very...Weird in a game like warframe, but it could work ?

[balmy storm]

They said infested liches were gonna happen in the AMA

[scarlet basalt]

true, gaz TTV have mixed it as a tennocon announcement, he said that it could be a potential tennocon announcement...
But with how the game is starting to get deeper in the void, it must be about literally albretch entrati the future tennocon 🤔 He is maybe not dead, or is most likely a shrodinger cat ?

[balmy storm]

It isn’t coming with tennocon iirc

Infested liches are coming but later, I’d check the AMA for reference

[scarlet basalt]

i hope they come fast, because there's a chance for Hema variant 🙏

[balmy storm]

Tennocon is most likely gonna have a reveal relating to the void arc

I feel like we won’t see infested liches for another year, maybe two
Don’t expect them to be soon tbh

[scarlet basalt]

Tbh i think that tennocon will be centered about Albretch entrati / MITW
Maybe this will be something really crazy for the futur, like a potential apocalypse 😭

[zenith jacinth]

Or that one sword no one uses

[balmy storm]

Probably, both of those have to do with the void arc in some way
A potential apocalypse would be us failing to keep the void hole closed, which would cause mass void storms

[scarlet basalt]

That's a gun
you mean MIre ?

[balmy storm]

Mire

[zenith jacinth]

I added an "or"

[balmy storm]

Anyone else remember the mire foundry bug?
Good times

[zenith jacinth]

The what

[balmy storm]

The mire would sit above your foundry like other weapons do when being built/unclaimed
It would replace all other weapons, it was just visual and kinda funny

It was fixed like 3 years ago iirc

[scarlet basalt]

Funny enough i think that it will be about the sun :
Why ? Void portal seems to be created by creating a black holes... And in TNW Somehow Perghasa took so much energy that it somehow summoned MITW.
Meaning that there could be some dead star that may have been a literal gaping hole in the universe 💀

[balmy storm]

Maybe 4?

[zenith jacinth]

Idk about pc but the forge on switch still defaults to displaying mire pretty often

[frank portal]

question, ive played new war and set my drifter and operator with different voices ( raven and heron respectively). if i go replay new war again would the mission use the voices i set for em instead of the same for both?

[scarlet basalt]

you can always customize drifter in the camp even in tnw yes

[frank portal]

i know that, im asking about the cutscenes

[scarlet basalt]

maybe not the first one 🤔 ? so you have to customize before

[zenith jacinth]

All customization is saved individually

[frank portal]

cus having raven drifter and heron operator meet is something i want to see for lore reasons

[scarlet basalt]

🏳️‍⚧️ ?

[frank portal]

:Trollge:

[frank portal]

[balmy storm]

Preghasa was using the sun’s energy to create a void portal, no black holes involved
The void also doesn’t interact with black holes from what we know of iirc, it probably can and it’d probably be weird but I doubt the sun or black holes will be involved again

[scarlet basalt]

Ohh i thought that they were amassing energy to a center to make a void portal, similarly to a black hole.
But now that i think of it, maybe not, there were some kind of anchor that was holding a void portal when Ballas "killed" Lotus

[balmy storm]

They were gathering energy to make a void portal, but from what we know of that’s not similar to a black hole
Black holes aren’t portals
Void portals lead to the void and grant ftl travel

[tepid basin]

I dont think there was ever a black hole involved in warframe aside for the booben ability. In fact I dont think its even called that

[balmy storm]

Think of void travel like traveling via the nether in minecraft
1 block in the nether is 8 in the overworld
Going a small distance in the void is a massive distance in real space

[lusty basin]

Yeah, it is just called a "vortex"

[balmy storm]

Closest we have is void holes, an ability the railjack can have
No lore relevance from what we know of though
There’s curiously also a black-hole like object within the void in Voruna’s room when you look at earth through the void mirror

[tepid basin]

oh yeah, the railjack thing

Voruna's room? I dont remember doing that

[balmy storm]

They are similar in appearance to black holes, aside from not interacting with light in weird ways and just being a vortex for the railjack

[scarlet basalt]

Maybe black hole are the opposite of the void 😔
Like the void Heals/destroy
But black holes just devour things

[balmy storm]

I forgot what the gamemode is called but Lua brought 2 new nodes with it, it’s where you can get her parts iirc
There’s a room with Voruna’s Leverian took place with a void mirror

[balmy storm]

Doubtful

[scarlet basalt]

Teshin confirmed that the void heals/destroy
But black holes are just here to pull them to their center of gravity, they "eat" ?

[balmy storm]

Black holes don’t eat

Tbh black holes are just
Very complex and if we encountered one there isn’t much we can do

Get to close, gravity pulls you in, spaghetti
Interacting with the void it might nullify the effects or just make it weird, or stronger, who knows tbh
Black holes warp space time, the void does weird things with space time

If, for example, Sol was converted into a black hole (not what Preghasa was trying to do btw) not much would change in terms of orbits, since the mass would be the same as the sun

[tepid basin]

I think yall thinking a bit too hard about it.

The "void" is just that popular scifi trope of a negaspace thing where everything is weird and allows for wondrous things because its hella undefined and can be used to justify anything. The concept was visited in things like star wars, Star Commander, the Even Horizon movie, and of course the Warhammer 40k universe. Its a plot device and it does or behave as the plot asks it to do so.

As opposed to a black hole, which is a relatively known and real thing.

[scarlet basalt]

So the void is the warp.
Wait no it's just the warp 😭 literally i wonder if there will be other "gods" as we know that MITw is just a manifestation from albretch

[prime lantern]

We don't know that

That's one of the theories

[balmy storm]

Basically we don’t know what a black hole would do with the void cause the void is just weird and black holes are weird
Though I still think it’s unlikely we’d see them interact, as cool as it’d be

Unless the Orokin experimented with black holes, but considering the danger and the power needed to do that, idk

[scarlet basalt]

I think they would have to travel to other solar system
But last time they've done that they summoned a god

[prime lantern]

They did experiment with singularitys

Or well "gravitonal anomalies "

No it was singularitys

Creates miniature gravitational singularities that can be used for scientific study or self-defense.-simulor

[balmy storm]

It would be possible to make a black hole without going to other systems, they’d just need to stabilize it depending on it’s size which would probably be small and depending on how small it might just disappear

[prime lantern]

They've already made singularitys

[balmy storm]

So basically they’ve experimented with black holes

[prime lantern]

Yuh

[balmy storm]

Where’s the black hole warframe, DE

Maybe the Orokin wised up on that one and said no for once
meanwhile Nova-

[prime lantern]

If my math is right which it rarely is rhino should be creating a black hole every time he stomps

[elder dome]

Why hasn’t rell left the ship yet

[prime lantern]

He's dead

[balmy storm]

Oh no
Not the rhino foot discussion!

[zenith jacinth]

Singularities

[elder dome]

It’s 2am in the morning and I’ve just heard this scary hey kiddo from my tv and shut down the game in negative time

[prime lantern]

):

[balmy storm]

that’s not Rell

[prime lantern]

That's wally

[zenith jacinth]

That's just your friendly neighborhood wally

[balmy storm]

The Man in the Wall
Rap
Tap
Tap

[prime lantern]

He's a god

[elder dome]

So there’s 2 people in my ship

[zenith jacinth]

The wall man goin rappy tappy tappin all about

[prime lantern]

You and wally

[balmy storm]

We don’t know what he is

[elder dome]

Idc man I’m not sleeping now

[prime lantern]

I think labeling him as a god is a safe bet

[zenith jacinth]

1 in your ship, 1 in your head

[balmy storm]

There’s you and Wally pops in from time to time

[prime lantern]

He can move timelines on a whim unwrite laws defy causality

[balmy storm]

I think we can’t label him properly yet at all

[thick jolt]

Then theres helminth and ordis your funny roommates

[zenith jacinth]

Eldritch being

[balmy storm]

Eldritch god

[elder dome]

Me Wally helsmith, ordis and companion

[balmy storm]

Helminth is a better roommate tbh

[prime lantern]

Most eldritch beings are gods

I don't mean capital G God when I mean wally I mean like Zeus or hades

[elder dome]

Is the main story finished or?

[prime lantern]

Chaos is capital G God

[zenith jacinth]

No

[thick jolt]

Nah just takes time to make the larger quests

[elder dome]

I get it, should be fun to progress in the game

[balmy storm]

It is!

[elder dome]

I only ‘started’ like 2 months ago and it’s been a fun process although when you leave the game and come back it’s hard to get your bearings

[zenith jacinth]

Until you find another nightmare place

[elder dome]

When space babies update

[prime lantern]

We're space kids

[elder dome]

Not if you’re the drifter

[balmy storm]

We’re still space kids

[zenith jacinth]

Sometimes we're spy space kids

[balmy storm]

Drifter and Operator’s existence doesn’t cause the other one to not exist
They both exist
We are both space kids and space adults

[balmy storm]

I’d watch that movie

[zenith jacinth]

And a lot of us were space obama for a short while

[prime lantern]

I'd watch a warframe animated show

[balmy storm]

Same
But I was talkin’ about spy kids

[prime lantern]

Especially if it was made by the same guy who did the syntax trailer

[balmy storm]

same, could get some cool posters in game for each episode

[zenith jacinth]

Nah, by the people who made the "new" intro cutscene

[balmy storm]

That would probably take longer tho

Considering they used mocap

[zenith jacinth]

Quality>quantity

[balmy storm]

True, but a hyper stylized series would be amazing too

[prime lantern]

Or in whatever style edgerunners used

I atleast hope every leverian gets animated

[zenith jacinth]

In that case, the people who make the miles morales spider-man movies

[balmy storm]

Tbh if we wanted to get really wild they could do a new style every episode, have every episode be about something different alongside it

[balmy storm]

I’d give them money in advance for that

[prime lantern]

I want more actual cutscenes cause the gameplay cutscenes are really wonky

[elder dome]

What about a Warframe game?

[balmy storm]

Impossible smh

[elder dome]

I think that would be a good idea

[prime lantern]

Nah

[zenith jacinth]

Could just use direct frames from the series for displays since the style actually allows that

[elder dome]

Idk man when technology advances I think we could see one in the near future

[balmy storm]

It would never work, the mechanics would be too complicated 🙄

[zenith jacinth]

[elder dome]

already are

[balmy storm]

Thats the joke

[elder dome]

[prime lantern]

Warframe vr game

[balmy storm]

Okay but that with a custom headset designed after one of the many weird headsets in the game 👀

[zenith jacinth]

Custom headset that's just a big excal helmet

[prime lantern]

Somatic pod

[balmy storm]

Fully immerse yourself, transfer into a real warframe

[prime lantern]

Mirage

[balmy storm]

Ivara or Octavia for me

[prime lantern]

No no no

[balmy storm]

Maybe Xaku if I’m feelin’ spooky