spoiler-chat

[frail nymph]

Well where else would the name Tenno come from in something represented by a trailer that has both Hayden and the ship?

[cyan crest]

It could've just been his last name like it ended up being in Dark Sector

[frail nymph]

It existed long before. In the ember prime codex, for example

[frail nymph]

But why would they come up with "Tenno?"

[hazy flume]

Look up Tenno definition

They always get an idea from something that already exists due to inspiration etc. (Ngl bored of the topic )

[frail nymph]

So the two possibilities are then 10-0 vs "emperor of Japan"

[cyan crest]

And it makes sense for them to call their space ninja like the emperor of japan imo

They probably came up with the 10-0 thing after coming up with Tenno as a cool name

[hazy flume]

There is also a whole documentary on YouTube of Warframe. It's quite an interesting watch so you can always watch that if you want more information.
I had to research this for the concept art course I'm doing final year project wise.

Legit documentaries have always been a good gateway to finding out more about something. (Answers questions too.)

[frail nymph]

No wonder Warframe is becoming more and more anime by the day

[hazy flume]

I've seen worse Anime. Warframe definitely isn't that.

[cyan crest]

if the astronaut meme wasn't dead I'd make a reference to it with the "always has been"

[hazy flume]

I'd say that still works

Now I have this urge to go and analyse the hell out of the original trailers etc.
Dammit. Might do that for fun later.
Ciao, Tenno.

[zenith jacinth]

Looks at sevagoth

[frail nymph]

What do you guys think the next two places will be?

Also galaxy System but yeah

[wicked iron]

[cyan crest]

Alright I'm gonna say it first
Tau?

[loud kayak]

I'm kind of surprised people keep confusing the Origin System for a galaxy

[wicked iron]

Or other locations to prep for Tau.

[cyan crest]

Or perhaps not Tau at all

[loud kayak]

I mean the first 2 that come to mind for me are Tau and Duviri, but I'm not sure if she meant either of those

[wicked iron]

Troo.

[cyan crest]

Duviri is confirmed so it's not that

[loud kayak]

Ah I misread the thing. I wonder what the 2 places are then? Maybe something beyond Duviri?

[cyan crest]

I'm guessing deep void? We got a wall shaped problem to deal with

[loud kayak]

It would make sense, using years to develop something like Duviri and not using it as a springboard for future content seems like a waste.

[distant tusk]

Florida

[velvet wing]

We’re going to the Sun baby! We been to the Moon now it’s time for Sun!

[dry magnet]

Hah even then it doesn’t really that bad. But if its sooner then even better,after you finish and come to play…it would be full with fixes. 😏

[distant tusk]

Yeah I hope it’s on a day I can’t play so they can iron out the big kinks

[tacit venture]

AKA Ember’s Homeland

[loud kayak]

I really want to play it immediately when it comes out but I also want to make sure that I don't experience the worst bugs, a true dilemma.

[steady gate]

We’re going to Tau Ceti, and then we’re going to the other Tau system, Tau Tauri

[distant tusk]

We’re definitely going to Florida

[short spindle]

here?

[distant tusk]

Yeah

So what’s confusing about it?

[short spindle]

story was great

[distant tusk]

Of corse

[short spindle]

but I couldnt understand about past zariman school

[distant tusk]

Yeah it’s a bit confusing

[short spindle]

I found another myself and,finally I choose one from both.

[distant tusk]

Did you go drifter or operator?

[short spindle]

operator

I take 5hours to finish story.

[distant tusk]

I’m not good a explaining the future stuff so I would suggest asking either here or in #lore-discussion

[distant tusk]

That was expected

I have no idea how long it took me first try

[short spindle]

I was livestream at my youtube.
so I will watch myself again for understand storys

[uncut junco]

"this would be easier to explain" must be my favorite statement when your operator Initial thinks drifter is future them.

[short spindle]

Anyway great time,

Most difficult was step to make voidrig

[distant tusk]

Yeah I bought mine with plat 🤣

[short spindle]

Just skipped time.

And I loved KAHL so much

[distant tusk]

He was great

But I gotta go with my boy teshin

😔

[short spindle]

I see

[tacit venture]

Nahhhhh I liked when we didnt know who Drifter was

[distant tusk]

What

[tacit venture]

I enjoyed playing when we first got Drifter with the invisibility and stuff

[distant tusk]

Same

But not as much as my boi

[short spindle]

Best shot at the new war

[woeful jacinth]

I need to get that captura scene

[distant tusk]

Nice

[steep delta]

that captura is from LD correct?

or rather the captura that is that scene

[woeful jacinth]

Yeah I think it was called praghasa

[placid citrus]

behold a nagging thought I just got hit with while trying to sleep

has anyone recreated the XRA bit where he's facing off against himself with the drifter and operator

and if not, would it be funny

[scarlet basalt]

I love that the lore imply that praghasa isn't burning in the sun.
Praghasa is just chilling,dead,in the sun
Hottest sauna for a living being,well not living

[frail nymph]

We know that praghasa burned up in the sun

Ohh wait I get what you mean

"Bones of my father, fathom drowned...behold me. Carcass of my mother, flame devoured...behold me. Limbs of my children, piecemeal, unblinking...behold me."

I guess you could see flame devoured to mean that

[scarlet basalt]

wait i thought she wouldn't get burn, pretty funny for a sentient with that size

[languid torrent]

I mean, we do see several Murex essentially dead, and with how close Praghasa was to the sun, it's likely the gravitational pull sucked her in post-New War.

[scarlet basalt]

i was thinking : maybe there was a wave of heat that must have happened when praghasa opened the void portal (in the sun) , it must have been so weird in those land, like imagine if it was a cold land and somehow there is a wave of heat that comes from nowhere essentially burning everything in its passage lmaoo

[frail nymph]

? Did you not notice the literal sun beams casually piercing through-holes everywhere in the map?

One of them even killed Erra

[robust summit]

Thought he got crushed by some falling debris… but either way he died. And Pazzul(?) was “born”.

[frail nymph]

The falling debris is how we got isolated from him

But the reason he screamed in pain is that he was standing in a Sun beam

[robust summit]

Oh. I thought that was from being crushed…

It was like a 30 second cutscene.

Ah well, doesn’t matter. Our uncle is dead and a goat took his place.

[frail nymph]

Well detractors use the misunderstanding that Erra was in pain from holding up some debris to argue that New War is the worst instances of writing ever, so I'd say it matters to debunk that at least

[zenith jacinth]

Not quite dead, he's still in there somewhere

[stable pendant]

I'm more confused how an archon shard got into erra

That shi just spawned in, or am I missing something?

[sudden pelican]

?platnium

[zenith jacinth]

Stabbed in there to bolt the ram into place, I assume

[rancid solar]

So in the Sacrifice quest, can you beat Ballas at the board game when you’re reliving Umbra’s memories? Or is it impossible to win

[jagged sable]

you can win.

[worn token]

U can but nothing happens

[wild wind]

That's a gooood question. During one of Erra's moments of control Pazuul's unhinged rants, he blames his mother for the transformation. Which to me implies that Praghasa might not be as dead as assumed...

[heavy mist]

To be fair, when has a sentient being dead ever stopped them?

[wild wind]

Usually when my Xata-infused Mesa deletes them, but a fair point.

[heavy mist]

Erra died twice already and he still ain't done yet, though gotta say, going from crab to ram is a pretty serious downgrade

Also, as an aside, I know why for game play reasons this didn't happen, but does anyone else think it's kinda messed up that Narmer and Erra just left the Eidolon there?

[mossy slate]

Wouldnt it essentially be unobtainable for them/ no longer considered an ally, but a sentient subspecies, as it only can scream but not make coherent sentences, as if it were an alpha and the voms were the followers?

[heavy mist]

I mean we got Lotus back and there was a lot less of her there when we fed her the archon juice

[mossy slate]

Hmm good point

[heavy mist]

Second aside while we're on the topic, think it's gonna come up that narmer was clearly harvesting temple kuva from the unam and so could probably repair their reproductive abilities?

[mossy slate]

Maybe they cant spare resources for the eidolon since it's technically a fragment of the mind of a larger sentient, hence they consider it worthless?

[mossy slate]

Seems like a possibility, but i never heard of them wanting to harvest kuva from the unum, all i knew was that sentients were attacking the unum

[cyan crest]

Konzu says they're harvesting the Kuva when you are chasing lotus

[heavy mist]

I might be remembering wrong, but I know I heard somewhere that the reason the Eidolon, or rather, the sentient that would become the Eidolon, was interested in the Unam at all was because the Unams temple kuva could fix their reproduction

[mossy slate]

Oh i must've glazed over that detail then

[cyan crest]

Konzu: "The Unum. They plunder her Temple Kuva! Surah. Konzu begs you. Find a way to reinvigorate her. Before it is too late. Kruna metta!"

[cyan crest]

Yeah the Unum's temple kuva could make it reproduce again

[heavy mist]

The unum was a hell of a set piece, makes me wonder if we'll see her tileset again

Same with Murex in something other than sterile anomaly runs

[cyan crest]

And the Kahl missions

[heavy mist]

Like I want a murex swimming with sentients like it's a survival mission of different sentient types

[mossy slate]

In the possibility that the sentients do get to consume kuva, would it mean that they would reproduce and sort of gain kuva-related powers and becoming like the kuva liches?

[cyan crest]

Just reproduce again

Temple Kuva is different from normal kuva, i dont think they'd become liches

[heavy mist]

If I had to guess from context clues, temple Kuva is for the spreading of one's self through multiple bodies, like the Unam did

Of course, Sentients can still make new bodies

Just not new minds

And somehow the temple kuva would fix that

[hot stag]

Duviri horse?

[distant tusk]

Yes

I feel like it’s a duviri Pegasus

Cuz you know….

[hot stag]

Basic choice but It stills hold up

[distant tusk]

Do we know of there are going to be different wing options?

[robust summit]

Probably as a skin at some point, but I’m not sure when.

[velvet wing]

These were the customization options shown during the Dev Stream

[loud kayak]

Honestly a Murex that had nodes like the old Derelicts would be cool

[rancid solar]

I’m probably ignoring something from the new war, but what is Little Duck referring to when you talk to her and she says ‘been seeing a lot of you after a certain incident with a blind girl and a void gate’

[real niche]

Old comic

[loud kayak]

I think there was a comic with LD, also that voiceline has been in the game wayy before the new war

[pseudo heath]

where do you guys fish for norgs

[steady gate]

There’s only one place; Gara Toht lake, at night. Throw norg bait in a hotspot

[rancid solar]

Ah I wasn’t sure since I waited for forever to level her syndicate

[robust summit]

It’s not a bad comic. It’s fun and different.

[heavy mist]

Where would one find said comic

[cyan crest]

In amazon I think

[heavy mist]

Whats its name

[cyan crest]

Warframe: GHOULS

Alright not in amazon

But I'm sure they're available to purchase somewhere

[tacit venture]

Rell comic was goated

[cyan crest]

The webcomics were neat but too short

[cyan crest]

Ok they ARE in Amazon but you just have to look up "warframe comic"

[robust summit]

I just googled it and read it on a sketchy website.

Couldn’t find it anywhere else, so I made due with what I had.

[cyan crest]

I don't think we are allowed to talk about those kinds of websites here
Official server and all that

[robust summit]

Yeah… but I already said it. Don’t have a link, so I think I’ll be fine.

[autumn turret]

i should buy them sometime

[fleet veldt]

Extra Murex tiles on each planet with Narmer/Sentient units would be nice.

[steep delta]

speaking of narmer what's everyone's opinions on For Narmer?

[tacit venture]

halloween edition of we all lift together

[steep delta]

spooky lol

[robust summit]

It’s fun, but I prefer “we all lift together”.

[uneven ice]

when exactly will duviri be released in april?

[loud kayak]

No release date confirmed

[uneven ice]

oh

[loud kayak]

I personally really like it because of the melody

[uneven ice]

i like it because it has old teshin, i was balling my eyes out when erra snapped his neck or whatever

[real niche]

...Hey wait a minute how are spoilers going to work in the regular channels if Drifter is literally one of the first things you can see now.

[loud kayak]

Uhh...

[woeful jacinth]

...great question

[loud kayak]

Let's wait for directives from higher-ups.

[real niche]

Easiest call is just that Drifter (Duviri) is fine, Drifter (TNW) isn't.

[steep delta]

was that a dripter suit in the devstream lol

the tennocon one?

[thick jolt]

Yeah it was the anniversary drifter suit meaning a dex drifter suit

[steep delta]

nice

gonna call drifter dripter from now on lol

although operator probably has more drip on a technicality due to having more customization options.

[velvet wing]

in small text it said drifter and operator

[thick jolt]

Nice to know was watching on mobile so i couldnt catch details

[zenith jacinth]

Easier to unlock as orbiter music than the superior solaris song

I'll never get those fragments...

[robust summit]

They exist.

Probably…

[zenith jacinth]

I have one vallis fragment... but not of the right song

[velvet wing]

I've scanned all of them, there's just one per visit to the vallis

[robust summit]

As the kids say: Big Oof.

[velvet wing]

(except for the narmer jawns)

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah, that's the problem. One in a random spot in that comparatively large map

[velvet wing]

max range with golden instinct can help you find them

[tacit venture]

If Rell was Punished Instead of Umbra

[frail nymph]

What?

[tacit venture]

It just works

[frail nymph]

Why would Rell have a prime umbral Harrow?

And why would Ballas punish the random guy that got turned into Harrow Umbra instead of Rell?

[tacit venture]

Better?

[frail nymph]

How is this "punishment" affecting Rell at all?

[tacit venture]

idk tbh man i thought rell was turned into harrow and what you see in game was a splinter of his soul

[frail nymph]

Ohh, yeah no Rell's story is different

[tacit venture]

Considering his mind was splintered and separated from its vessel

[frail nymph]

Rell got his hands on a Harrow through... Ambiguous means.

Rell knew he needed to stop the Man in The Wall forever but he would grow old and die eventually. So he fully moved his consciousness into the frame and then had the frame chained up in void chains or whatever so that it stays intact.

Eventually Man in the Wall won the mental battle and shattered Rell's mind.

[tacit venture]

Moral of the story

The MitW deserves anything that happens to em

[frail nymph]

(The "eventually" being when you unlock your powers in War Within and Wally snaps back to reality and turns his attention onto you and perhaps others.)

[supple dagger]

I love it so much ngl

[tacit venture]

whos wally? is that whay people call mitw?

[supple dagger]

Yep

[steep delta]

What's a good drifter suit

Currently running Harrow PA

The Templar suit

[supple dagger]

The default drifter suit is actually a pretty good suit to use when you pair it with other suits. Voidshell is also good as well

[robust summit]

Man in the wall is too long to say, so most just shorten it to Wally.

[tacit venture]

Ah

[zenith jacinth]

Operator

Drifter currently has like 4 suits, you already got the best one

[vital creek]

i really like the voidshell suits for op/drift ngl

can't remember which prime op suit i bought but voidshell is my favorite

[nocturne kiln]

The Flack jacket from the grineer suit has always had a place in my heart for how it looks so functional

[steep delta]

does what again

[supple dagger]

I started a comics about warframe I know that no one cares but just to say it's called "Warframe "Hidden Stories"" and its going very well I pulled some stuff from the real story. Umbra and Stalker(Shadow) are fighting and then when umbra goes to capture again he sees a corrupted tree he follows the trail of the corrupted and it leads him to a cave where he sees a mother hive that gets him and mutated him and now umbra should start to kill warframes after the corruption goes to hes mind and starts controlling him in this story and hunhow becomes he's human form I'm just saying bc it's important for me to hear what you think.

[minor goblet]

Mainly used for rerolling rivens and can be used for crafting of some weapons/frames

[heavy mist]

Extremely mid by itself, but when you cut it together with "we all lift together" it is a transcendental experience

[frail nymph]

Stuck in my head just like every other song

[dry magnet]

So in April 5 we get to buy tennocon tickets but 2 days after that is Friday maybe we can expect duviri update to have on that day or maybe devstream that will show us what to expect on our next week. So i get the feeling that we will get duviri at the beginning of that month or in the middle…

[distant tusk]

Also does anyone have a screenshot of the drifter dex skin?

[distant tusk]

Thanks!

[hazy flume]

ngl can't wait for that Dex skin >:D

[hazy flume]

I'm curious to have a look at the comics.

[distant tusk]

It reminds me of Artorias from ds1

[hazy flume]

Do like what Liger's done with the left arm, it's reminding me of the design of that infected arm of Hayden's from Dark Sector, literally the virus changed the entire arm and part of his back so the armoured look to the skin always looked so cool to me.

Then again also explains why I never stop using the proto skin on Excal

[boreal citrus]

I was not sure where I can post this but since I cannot change my name specifically for this server the normal way, is there a way on the page to be able to do so? I would like to use my user name instead.

[velvet wing]

You’d either need nitro or to change your discord name

Also #players-helping-players would be fine for this post

[supple dagger]

I got the dex skins from before but also I got the rhino dex skin somehow 0_0

[hazy flume]

I ended up just changing my discord Username with my Main accounts username in brackets. (Unsure how else it'd work.)

[distant tusk]

I was thinking more the helmet with the plume

[hazy flume]

Aye it'll give ya previous skins from previous Anniversary years. Plus with this being the 10yr one they'll be giving them all out pretty much.

[hazy flume]

Oh the plume? Fair enough ^v^

[distant tusk]

Here’s a direct comparison

So kinda like a stylized futuristic Artorias

[robust summit]

That’s very interesting. I now can’t unsee it. And I don’t want to. Time for an Artorias costume and color palette!!!

[woeful jacinth]

And like that I'm fully sold on the skin

[distant tusk]

I was already planning on doing that 🤣

[distant tusk]

Yeah same, do you know how we are going to get it?

[robust summit]

Yeah. Now I just need a Sif companion and I’ll be all good.

[distant tusk]

Just breed a big kubrow and color it white and grey

[woeful jacinth]

Probably one of rewards in the road map leading to tennocon

[distant tusk]

Let’s hope so, but I’m willing to put in money for this skin

[robust summit]

I was more thinking about the sword… but that’ll work too.

[distant tusk]

Oooh yeah

Companion melee?!

[robust summit]

!!!!!!

That would be really cool!!! Let me give my dogs knives DE!!!!

[distant tusk]

I can just imagine a small kavat lugging around war

[robust summit]

Yesssssssss

[hazy flume]

Oh I see what you mean now X'D

[hazy flume]

Imagine if we could design Tennogen kubrow/kavat armour, I'd be all for doing a design so they have knives on their armour >:D

[zenith jacinth]

Helminth charger just gets it stabbed through where the mouth would be

[robust summit]

There’s the nidus deluxe companion armor that has those blade looking wings on it and the spikes.

But yeah that would be really cool!!!

[hazy flume]

Yeah I use that skin and armour a lot lol. (It's too cool )

[bright kettle]

yo , everyone agrees that dominus is straight up Rell right? See the devstream where they show duviri gameplay and it shows the drifter fighting dark shadow people (just like the dark shadow entities in chains of harrow)

its kinda crazy that our boy got a whole requiem named after him (Khra)

[distant tusk]

Idk

[loud kayak]

Personally I don't but we'll see in April

[wicked iron]

I don't think everyone agrees on that. I don't think it's the case, even if it might be.

Regardless of who it is, I hope we find out more about him. 😄

[vital creek]

Wouldn’t say it’s impossible but I doubt it

[thick jolt]

I dont really think the speech patterns line up
I could be misremembering the quest though

[bright kettle]

they dont need to, dominus is another version of Rell. Much older than him and possibly warped by the void

the shadow people I am talking about

[thick jolt]

So your hunch that dominus is rell is based on them not being alike ?

[bright kettle]

not really, I am saying even if the finer details dont match up then also its fine since there are evidences to corroborate the hypothesis

[distant tusk]

No way

Are you knight Artorias

The abysswalker?

[bright kettle]

aye , whatever thou art, stay away

Soon ... I will be consumed ... by them, by the void

[distant tusk]

I had a whole conversation on how the drifter dex skin looks like a stylized modern version of you

[bright kettle]

I beg of thee, the spread of the man in the wall ... must be stopped

[bright kettle]

woahh , you are on spot dude

whose design is that? Next prime warframe ?

[distant tusk]

It’s going to be a drifter skin

[bright kettle]

dang dude , thats sick

[distant tusk]

Idk how we’ll be able to get it

I hope through drops during the anniversary stuff

[thick jolt]

Anniversary skin
But they will give all the new anniversary stuff during tennocon

[distant tusk]

I need it

[bright kettle]

We*

[distant tusk]

In August?

[thick jolt]

Ye

[distant tusk]

Ugh

More waiting

[thick jolt]

Thats why they spread out the anniversary stuff over 10 weeks

[distant tusk]

Makes sense

[zenith jacinth]

We needs it!

[surreal smelt]

grendel nian would look cooler with the duviri dragon

[loud kayak]

Does anyone know if the operator has specific places it spawns in the Drifter camp when Hey Kiddo'ing? I just heard the voiceline for the first time in like a year but I couldn't see Wally anywhere

[woeful jacinth]

He still spawns in the same areas from what I've seen

[steady gate]

Wally also spawns on the ramp teleporter

[loud kayak]

👍

[nocturne wraith]

Hello friends no sping Inglês sorriso Brasílian Day

[scarlet basalt]

idk about that, it's like saying :
Rebecca confirmed that Rell is autistic
Dominus thrax seems to show his mood through his land (duviri) and "liminus" meaning that there is a big chance that he is also autistic and that's why his behavior is like that

[frail nymph]

Missing a key point:
Dominus is stated to be someone familiar to us

Given that fact, Rell becomes very likely

Also Dominus doesn't show mood through his land, he prefers there to not be any mood, he prefers black-and-white and is annoyed when Drifter starts introducing color for the first time so far.

The land just happens to react to his mood. Him personally, it seems he prefers to hide his face and everyone else's face.

[scarlet basalt]

i think it could be Rell but idk if DE will do that.
Not gonna lie, it would be so weird to see him being against the drifter but we know that he was literally protecting Sol. Like bro got a villain character arc 😭

[robust summit]

Yeah. I’d rather Rell not be Dominus, but if it happens then it happens.

[frail nymph]

I have a feeling that if it's Rell, Thrax isn't gonna actually be a villain

Just like Rell was not a villain during chains of Harrow despite his emotion thingies attacking you

[graceful zodiac]

I doubt it's Rell, more so now that we know emotions affecting environment is just a thing the Void can do

[frail nymph]

Again, my reasons are not that the emotions reflect in the environment, but rather that Dominus prefers the emotionless black and white and prefers everyone to make masks.

And likes predictability even if it's doing the same skit over and over again.

[graceful zodiac]

A hang up there is that the black and white isn't emotionless, it's just "Calm" going by the given states Duviri can be in.

Dominus's thing isn't about emotions at all really, it's about trying to fight against his control over the place

[frail nymph]

Calm, in that sense, is emotionless

When I said emotionless, I didn't mean the inability to feel or express emotions

I meant the lack of any particular emotion. Which is calm, same as lack of color. The state that would be most comfortable for someone having trouble grasping and dealing with emotions, despite their medical condition not robbing them of emotions like depression would.

Dominus' desire for control is about the world of Duviri not having color - not having any of the emotions that are linked to color in the world.

Drifter is ecstatic at seeing something he did add color to the world, and Dominus explicitly expresses disdain at him adding color.

[balmy storm]

Isn’t the lack of any emotion apathy?

[steep delta]

maybe?

[balmy storm]

I mean it’s defined as a lack of feeling or emotion so

[dreamy saffron]

I feel like apathy and a standard lack of emotion are two very different things. Apathy demands context. While it literally means expressing no emotion, calling someone apathetic, for example, assumes that there's a reason they should be feeling emotion, which I don't feel is the case here.

[crude stump]

does anyone know how to revert from drifter camp back to pretty stars in the orbiter?

[orchid remnant]

there should be a big old floating orbiter in the earth skybox, u can click that

[nocturne kiln]

Its next to the relay on the earth selection of navigation

[frail nymph]

That's when you're supposed to feel emotion but you don't towards a specific subject or person

Thrax feels emotions when events happen that make him angry etc.

Doesn't mean he'd be apathetic if he just preferred not to be in those situations.

[hexed cipher]

Hopefully in duviri my souls expirence will come in handy

[distant tusk]

I’m counting on it

[hexed cipher]

Yea bro if my parrying skills end up being useless im gonna be demoralised

I know there is parrying i just hope there are reposts

[distant tusk]

I’m considering changing my keybinds (if I can idk if you can on console) to dark souls keybinds

[uncut junco]

You should be able to. I don't know how extensive the customization is tho.

[hexed cipher]

Its gonna be wild, hopefully bosses are good

[distant tusk]

The wrym fight looks fire

[scarlet basalt]

Things are so weird.
Duviri is on a loop we know and then when the drifter gets stabbed we see the dude saying "curious, that doesn't belong here"
Thrax could have been distraught by that because : who is bothering is sims 4 simulation ?
Thrax being also the "narrator" for this land is also something new, seeing things that doesn't belong here now that the hand,paracesis has shown (maybe because the link between wally + the operator made something really strange to every "operator") he could have been very angry at it.
Nothing was in order when the link was felt through the void. But thought he could fix that by playing with those new settings ?

[distant tusk]

Do we know if we can complete that fight solo?

[zenith jacinth]

Probably

[distant tusk]

I don’t really want to do my first couple playthroughs of duviri with people

I just wanna take it at my own pace

[zenith jacinth]

Everything is doable solo if you're good enough at it

[distant tusk]

Touché

[scarlet basalt]

it seems that fighting it on squad only mean faster ?
Like it seems to be solo-able with how devstream has shown it.

[steep delta]

Dripter be like: beard

[frail nymph]

Bruh the corpus in the garrison remembers Veso's name as Veko

F

[zenith jacinth]

Poor vedo

[bronze pier]

Yeah, seems no one remembers Veto's name correctly

[steady gate]

I don’t get how people can forget Venato

[supple dagger]

Ikr. Vekato was a very brave man

[frail nymph]

Yeah Teko will never be forgotten

I still remember when he said it's Tekko time and then Tekko Primed all over the place

[plain onyx]

pls de i hope u give us the ability to pet our horses in the duviri update

oh and also give us the ability to immediently spawn in our dormizone upon logging in too

[supple dagger]

🌮 Teko time

[lost tapir]

《New war image I had to take》

[bright kettle]

sure if you miss everything I am saying regarding void black figures and then push your own interpretation that the only thing joining them is the fact that one is autistic and other has mood swings

[bright kettle]

In all honesty , I can see a villain arc where everyone pushed and bullied Rell away and instead of receiving love and reverence from the Red Veil , he receives nothing and is set to walk the void alone (without any help or bailout from Orokin) looking for an escape and then receiving power and decides that the people who left him to die , essentially deserve eternal cycle of death where they die again and again

[dry magnet]

I think on April 5 or 7 duviri will come to us… 🤔

[scarlet basalt]

You could be right, I hope that it could be something like that
I don't remember how the hell did rell get Harrow tho.
If anyone can remind me of that

[zenith jacinth]

Unknown

[frail nymph]

Well personally I think if it's Rell then it's gonna turn out to be some kind of reveal where he isn't actually evil

Maybe the roguelike aspect stays even after you finish the quest and put color in the world because you agree with Rell to help him make peace with the emotions but also allow him to enjoy his comfortable repetitive existence... By playing along with the repeating-day style

[torpid lantern]

I believe he's MITW, personally. Especially since everyone is wearing masks. My theory is that this keeps MITW from turning into whomever sees him. One of the NPCs Even said that they were made without eyes

[scarlet basalt]

If they were made without eyes, it would make sense that dominus thrax doesn't want to be seen, which could be really hinting about who he is ?
There's also how he speak, he seems to be a very serious antagonist but he speak in a "playful" manner, he is trapped inside his own bubble making scenario (tennocon 2022) , and when it doesn't work he is distraught and easily angered.
It seems to be hinting at someone who has never left the void ? but we have known ?

i think Man in the wall doesn't care at all to be seen, he just shouldn't exist it seems for the humans. smilar to an eldritch god and how they're portrayed through lovecraft's work.
It would make sense that it is a lot more about how is Rell. Like how the hell did this dude have a warframe in Sol and have his feelings swarm everywhere.
But, would this mean that Palladino will play a part in this story ? Like either she sell more thing or she will try to contact "Dominus thrax" ?

[frail nymph]

My theory is that this keeps MITW from turning into whomever sees him.

But Wally casually had both the kid form and the wall form separately.

[torpid lantern]

Right but that could have something to do with how he can manifest in multiple places at thr same time. Maybe the wall form couldn't manifest till he escaped from duviri. Rell saw it before but I don't think anyone else ever did

[cyan crest]

It definitely manifested that way in the Zariman since we have all the graffitis

[zenith jacinth]

Looks at zariman wall paintings

[cyan crest]

great to see that great cephalons think alike

oh this is an emote now?

[zenith jacinth]

I'm not a great cephalon, but sure

[zenith jacinth]

Interesting

Gotta say, I like the soulframe logo thing, good design

[cyan crest]

I was about to comment on how ugly it was

guess great cephalons only think alike once or twice

[frail nymph]

There are paintings on the Walls

[torpid lantern]

but we don't know who made them. Far as we know, only Rell knew about MITW and the main tenno. The other kids didn't make the deal and shunned Rell

[cyan crest]

Lotus says Margulis believed the Man in the wall and other stuff like it to just be pressure induced hallucinations so it's very possible that others did see him and drew those pictures

[frail nymph]

Other's that didn't make the deal? As far as we've known, only our operator made the deal.

[torpid lantern]

When did she say that?

Chains of Harrow?

[cyan crest]

Chains of Harrow I'll go find the transcript

[torpid lantern]

That's what I said.

[frail nymph]

Huh? I'm not sure I understand the grammar of what you wrote then

[cyan crest]

Lotus: "Rell's warnings... those dire consequences... he was talking about Void exposure, wasn't he? The effect it has on human minds is well understood..."

Palladino: "But it's not. This isn't some kind of deep pressure bends as Margulis suspected. Rell saw what it was, truly. An entity, indifferent. Old as stars."

And later lotus says this:

Lotus: "If Rell's been caught in a Transference loop for this long... the psychological effects could have been catastrophic. This 'man in the wall', these delusions, symptoms of the Void exposure all Tenno experienced. I hope that Palladino can find peace for Rell so this never happens again."

[frail nymph]

Well being very strict about that, Lotus recaps that all Tenno experienced void exposure but not necessarily that everyone's symptoms involved seeing the Man in the Wall.

Ahh I wish Albrecht had been there for Margulis to consult that would've been so cool

[cyan crest]

I wish our tenno spoke during CoH

[torpid lantern]

Yeah... Palladino makes it sound like Rell was the only one who actually saw the MITW. And even in adults, they had some sorta knowledge of something watching them. But not what.

[frail nymph]

"STHU Lotus I know what I saw and I saved everyone"

(We don't have perfect memories anymore, lore wise, but still)

[torpid lantern]

The tenno: Erm acktuully 🤓

[cyan crest]

Rell kind of figured out the Man in the wall but i think a lot of then could've seen him and later thought it was a hallucination

[torpid lantern]

but the drawings show the wall form and as far as we know, only Rell ever saw that

[frail nymph]

Yeah I mean it's odd to think all the Drawings were from Rell alone... They're all over the Zariman and in the spots with multiple sleeping hammocks set up

[scarlet basalt]

wait i thought the drawings were from adults who became insane ?

[frail nymph]

Lol I just realised the events of the Zariman might be evidence that Tenno don't need to eat? Like they'd get hungry buuut...

Or maybe the fact that everyone except the kids was dead meant the Biomes being sabotaged wasn't a huge issue.

[wicked iron]

That wording does imply all Tenno experienced it. "This 'man in the wall,' these delusions, symptoms of the Void exposure all Tenno experienced." The wording is saying that the "delusions" of the Man in the Wall were symptoms all Tenno had.

[zenith jacinth]

That seems very unlikely

[silent night]

Still thinking about how the man in the wall was a man in a wall

[frail nymph]

...symptoms of the Void exposure all Tenno experienced.

If the stress was on delusions being experienced, there would be no "the." "This 'man in the wall,' these delusions - symptoms of Void exposure all Tenno experienced."

Since there's no stress, that dialogue implies... Although it's not necessary, it's possible all experienced exposure but not the same delusion.

[distant tusk]

But still a man

Except

In a wall

[frail nymph]

But knowing that Wally isn't a delusion and is real, of course all experienced him

[wicked iron]

The way the sentence is structured and worded points to the delusions of The Man in the Wall being things all Tenno experienced, though.

[frail nymph]

It would, if there was no "the."

Since it says "the symptoms of void exposure" instead of "symptoms of void exposure," the structure doesn't particularly point to that.

For clarity...
"This 'man in the wall,' these delusions, [are some] symptoms of the Void exposure all Tenno experienced." (Points to the latter)

vs

"This 'man in the wall,' these delusions, [=] symptoms of Void exposure all Tenno experienced." (Points to the former)

[zenith jacinth]

Not his real form, officially confirmed by DE

[silent night]

He's just gonna be another guy in another wall or something

[wicked iron]

There must have still at least been a large number who experienced The Man in the Wall, though. If only one person did, Lotus wouldn't have even mentioned that. On top of that, she didn't even remember Rell, meaning her only sources for information on that symptom would have to be from the others. My whole point was more about there being more than one person (Rell) who experienced The Man in the Wall.

[frail nymph]

I know, I was just talking about what that sentence meant in and of itself, cause we were talking about what Margulis said. No real point, just for the sake of it. @wicked iron

[wicked iron]

Gotcha. 🙂

[torpid lantern]

If so, it also begs the question of when did Rell start holding him back so none of the other Tenno could see him? Old War? After?

[wicked iron]

My guess is after we returned from the Void.

Whether that was before or during the Old War, though, I am unsure. I feel like before, but no way to know for certain.

[scarlet basalt]

Idk about that.
Tbh it is very weird that Albretch entrati (or whoever made those illustration for him) and "someone" were capable of recreating a full depiction of wally.
While we, as tenno with connections with wally, we have only see him mimicking us but not his real form until the new war.
I think that the adult were the only one that could have drawn those depiction of wally, because it's also where you see the mess that the adults made

[frail nymph]

Who said all the Tenno only saw the real form in New War?

And nobody has ever made a full depiction of Wally - there is nothing original to depict.

No illustrations of Wally at all were created for Albrecht by anybody

[torpid lantern]

We've also never seen his real form. DE said the wall is just another one from his metaphorical arsenal

[supple dagger]

I wonder if whenever he copies a persons form, can he use it later without having to come in contact with said person again

[torpid lantern]

He does with Lotus and Rell, so I assume so

But he may only be able to make shadow versions if not directly interfacing with them

[jagged sable]

Personally, I think so.
I've had that theory that TMITW was able to use the Lotus' voice to lure the Tenno into touching the Lotus' helmet and trick them into going on the path to Umbra. That little "Good" at the end feels like he planned out the whole thing.

And TMITW planning it out would've only been possible if he could've changed voices. So, it is possible.

[steep delta]

Gonna Name Roulette our Kaithe when Duviri hits

[supple dagger]

I’m tempted to name my Kaithe Torrent…

[steady gate]

That was a popular choice on the poll

[tacit venture]

huh

[near rune]

Archimedian Yonta says she has a recurring dream where Albrecht Entrati speaks to her, then splits in two. If this is the Man in the Wall, then that might be evidence that he can take on a previous form (ie that of Albrecht). However, this "dream" raises so many questions that I'm inclined to disregard it entirely when it comes to establishing "facts" about lore. Is this a dream from when she was alive or more recently? Do Holdfasts even dream, or sleep for that matter? What are the odds that this is some side effect of conceptual embodiment, or worse, active manipulation by the Man in the Wall? Maybe it's actually the real Albrecht. And of course, sometimes a dream is just a dream, having absolutely no significance. So while I think the Albrecht dream is quite interesting, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from it. I mention it because there is a small, small chance this is an example of the Man in the Wall taking Albrecht's form.

[heavy mist]

To paraphrase the man himself, "was it I who returned from the void, or the other." Might be worth thinking about.

Of course, there's also the symbolism that he tears himself in half. It's 3 am my time so I apologize if I'm not the most coherent, but, what if the man in the wall wasn't real, just a reflection of Albrecht as the void tends to copy and reflect ideas, but Albrechts fear and memory of it made it real. It started as just a reflection, then more entered the void, and it became their reflection too, until it was everyone's mirror image. Then Rell names it, The Man in The Wall, and that's what it becomes, but at its heart, it's still the reflection of a scientist, a man of curiosity and study, and so it wants to learn more. Like I said, it's 3am, idk if any of this makes sense, but my neurons fired on this so, make of it what you will

[near rune]

I think that's unlikely. It wasn't a pure reflection because it tried to touch Albrecht or do something with/to him. It had agency outside of Albrecht. A reflection doesn't try to follow you out of the mirror; it walks away when you do. And while it may have drawn on subsequent travellers, Albrecht is quite clear that it never appeared to any of them. He also says they wore "field-wave skins", which may have indicated they were shielded from direct Void exposure in a way he wasn't. Albrecht is also the one who named it, calling it "that man, trapped in the wall", so it may have introduced itself to Rell with that name.

That's all to say that it might very well have been significant that Albrecht was the first one to encounter the Man in the Wall. Albrecht himself certainly seems to have thought he performed something irrevocable by making contact with it. Albrecht could have imparted some fragment of his essence to it in an indelible way. But I don't think that the Man in the Wall is, at its heart, merely a reflection of Albrecht. I think it's something else, something greater. Rell says that the entity is "old as stars".

[rain otter]

His first book Is also called like "the wall of Lohk" seemingly talking about the horrors of the Void.

[rain otter]

Rell also through some seemingly just will kept the man in the wall somewhat Contained.

[near rune]

I don't think it was about the "horrors of the Void". Euleria mentions it in connection with her lesson on Eternalism, and I don't think they would have given a book about horrors as recommended reading for physics students.

[rain otter]

I mean it was 1 of the books and one of them was A book with him and his daughter.

Idk.

[cyan crest]

She says "I've had that dream again" so I believe they do sleep now

[supple dagger]

If only we had access to one of his books:/

[brave osprey]

The Void infestation of the Zariman would be sick as a Voidshell material, i hope they'll add it.

[burnt pond]

I've found this photo of wally on Twitter and the author said that it's in the Zariman hall of legems scene but I can't seem to find it ANYWHERE, do someone know where to look?

[daring blaze]

This is coming 5 april duviri paradox/soulframe

[simple moss]

Soulframe is a totally separate thing.

[supple dagger]

I’ve always seen that around the staircases and under the bridge thing with all the grass and statues around it

[burnt pond]

I'll try to look here, thanks!

[frail nymph]

5 April is when Tennocon Tickets will be available, not release dates of anything

[unborn vortex]

I thought we killed narmer how is he still running things?

[real niche]

We didn't.

[lament axle]

we killed ballas, the old leader of narmer
now we need to deal with pazuul

[unborn vortex]

Oh

[robust summit]

I wonder where Pazuul’s thoughts end and whatever is left of Erra begins. Because I think there’s at least a little bit of Erra left in there. There are some Pazuul voicelines where it’s tone and cadence completely changes and becomes something like how Erra sounded. Either that or I’m reading too far into it.

[steady gate]

I think if you didn’t notice that you’d have to be deaf

DE tried to make it very obvious that Erra is still in there

[near rune]

Yeah, he says at one point "Tenno. I'm truly sorry. For everything. I saw the truth far too late. She will never forgive me. But you will, won't you?" Lotus also says "My brother is… unwell. I will… burn… the sickness out of him if I have to." so she clearly thinks he's still in there and can be saved. What we know of Sentients is that they're incredibly resilient and difficult to kill permanently, and even when the mind has been severely messed with, it can be restored – Lotus herself being the prime example.

Which, by the way, is not good news when you think about the Eidolon on the Plains. Good thing Onkko has us killing that thing over and over again so it can't rebuild.

[robust summit]

Yeah… I was pretty confident I wasn’t imagining things, but I couldn’t be sure.

[frail nymph]

Narmer is not a person

[scarlet basalt]

Eidolons remembering how we killed them for the millionth time and when they (hypothetically) will fully reborn... wow, i don't think it will be a speech that will have any morals, but only anger.

[robust summit]

It’s just going to be angry microwave noises.

[wicked iron]

The Eidolons of the Plains can't rebuild, thankfully. Their central mind is gone, which is why they act as they do. If they could rebuild, they would have done so long ago, while we were asleep for untold centuries, millennia, or however long it was.

[robust summit]

They try their best. And make due with whatever they can grab. Looking at Terry with their tree hand.

[wicked iron]

Oh, I mean more rebuilding as in becoming a whole, unified entity again.

[robust summit]

Oh. Gotcha.

Still laugh at Terry’s tree hand as I run in terror away because I’m not prepared for a fight.

[wicked iron]

[eternal mural]

I want an Owowrym as a pet god damnit!

[jagged sable]

Orowyrm puppy

[robust summit]

It’s essentially a giant floaty snake.

Let us hug the noodle!!!!

[frail nymph]

Well there were mini worms flying alongside the big one

[vast sage]

What happens if I pick one over the other?

[graceful zodiac]

Nothing

[vast sage]

Like nothing to affect gameplay or nothing that will give me an advantage?

[graceful zodiac]

The choice affects nothing, it's just cosmetic

[vast sage]

Also is this going to be permanent?

[graceful zodiac]

No

[vast sage]

Ok

[dry magnet]

What if… next week is the duviri

[orchid remnant]

it is trust 💯

[eternal mural]

If they prank us with duviri I'm going to cry :-:

But please let it be early April tho

I can't wait anymore! >-<

[supple dagger]

Hopefully it’s either gonna release on the first week of April or the second week of April

[autumn turret]

probably second week at the earliest because ama

[robust summit]

Mid April is my guess.

[dry magnet]

If we are lucky but knowing DE we are not. But maybe in some crazy miracle happens at the beginning of the upcoming month… that would be cool

After all this time and after 3-4 years of waiting we deserve to get this update as soon as possible

[loud kayak]

After 4 years what's a few weeks more honestly?

[flat shadow]

I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed. So I'm setting my expectations on the 24th

[loud kayak]

Besides I'd rather have a week or two worth of bugfixes at launch.

[dry magnet]

After working for 4 years this update should be flawless

[flat shadow]

Your expectations are unreasonable.

[loud kayak]

1. They most definitely didn't work 4 straight years on it.
2. Nothing will ever be flawless upon release.
3. It's Warframe, you should know better.

[dry magnet]

Yea i know im just saying

So 1 week or 2 would not make any big changes

[loud kayak]

I don't know, there could be some bugfixes that make it a much more pleasant experience. But then again, I don't believe any of us have ever worked in game development, much less for DE, so we can't say for sure.

[distant tusk]

Are we talking about the duviri release date?

[dry magnet]

yes we are,in hope that will come next week but knowing DE it probobly wont 🙂

[robust summit]

It’ll come out when it comes out. We can only wait. Let’s give our Canadian Overlords however long they need.

[dry magnet]

yea if we all think like that things would nevere be done and made on time. And also they have time to make it, all its left that is something cool for a long run that we think it would be and that is not full with bugs...

week or 2 is not a problem but not knowing when is just something that is on our minds

[frail nymph]

The 4 year timeline expectation is purely made up for the purpose of criticizing the update when it comes out - by setting unrealistic expectations. Just like it was made up to criticize the New War update.
Because if one expects 4 years of content, they are guaranteed to have an excuse to be disappointed and tell others to be disappointed despite those people liking it.

A better number is 1 year of mostly working on Duviri and maybe another 6 months of half working on it or less

4 years ago, Duviri was teased, but then plans changed completely. A Teaser is just meant to say "we will start working on this before the end of the year or whenever the content for this year is finished."

Aka the announcement implied Duviri work mostly starts after New War.

We know for a fact that plans changed and even New War was abandoned, and all of actual New War's new concepts were made from scratch in 2021 (mostly).

[frail nymph]

Some things don't linearly scale with time and dev team size.

Sometimes the last week or two might provide a solution that only comes after a year of a small part of the team working om the problem.

[quaint kiln]

Sure, but Cyberpunk took so much and it was criticized for poor release. It won't stop Duviri Paradox from being criticized either.

[frail nymph]

Cyberpunk was fully being worked on during the entire time "it took," AKA the time between first announcement and release. New War and Duviri were not.

Cyberpunk's Devs were not simultaneously busy making content for a live service game the for most of the time.

It won't stop them from being criticized because people can't be bothered to be truly thoughtful in their criticism, but that doesn't mean they're supposed to be criticized using the 4 year argument.

||And even in Cyberpunk's case, the Devs themselves did a great job and made one of the best game concepts and world concepts out there.

It was buggy because bug-finding was outsourced to a different company that was lazy and had terrible management. The management messed up by outsourcing it, it wasn't the dev team itself that failed in their task. The Cyberpunk team fixed every bug they were told to fix, but the outsourced company kept giving them random meaningless bugs like clipping of stationary objects because they were paid a flat amount per bug. It wasn't bad because lazy devs, it was bad because unchecked capitalism profit motive. ||

(Spoiler text cause not relevant enough to WF)

New War and Duviri could be provided ~~constructive~~ valid criticism based on the 4 year gap between when they could POSSIBLY have been released and when they were, ignoring Covid, yes.

But that criticism would purely be about the HYPE and eagerness of the players to play the quest BEFORE actually playing it. It cannot be about the quality of the content itself... ```

Explanation:
||Technically, New War could have been chosen to be developed before PoE and Fortuna, and therefore before Deimos since Covid wouldn't be a factor. 

Similarly, Duviri would be early too. And this way, both updates would keep the _story developments_ and _story **hype**_ fresh in the player's minds. 
But it would still be wrong to argue things about content quality, because duration spent on development has not been a factor in the discussion at all.||

[distant tusk]

They should do a fake release on April 1st 🤣

[quaint kiln]

They are still prone to criticism if the release ends up being bad. People may understand why, but they are still prone to criticism

[frail nymph]

You're missing the point.

If the release is worse than what you would expect from a 1-1.25 year timeline of solo development, then yes, all the criticism is valid.

But the discussion is about looking at something that had less than 1.5 years of fully focused dev time, and judging it against what should have been released after 4 years of fully focused dev time just because you want to call it bad.

[icy ore]

A true Fake cross save release on april 1st

[sharp ice]

I think you're also conflating valid and constructive. Just because your criticism is valid doesn't necessarily mean it is constructive.

[frail nymph]

Okay then I'll rephrase everything.

Replace all instances of my use of the word constructive with the word valid.

[sharp ice]

And to be perfectly frank, unless you are very familiar with the code and DEs work load, I'm not sure it should be considered 'valid' at all

[frail nymph]

Well I wouldn't say you have to be that familiar

For example, all you have to keep in kind is that in 4 years, DE didn't exclusively make Duviri.

In that time, they made Railjack Corpus, Sisters of Parvos, rebalances, Deimos, New War, Angels of Zariman, Veilbreaker, AND Duviri.

Going by a more generous definition of valid, I guess

[sharp ice]

And crossplay.

[quaint kiln]

That sounds even worse. Now players are invalid to criticize if something is bad?

[frail nymph]

No, that has nothing to do with what I said.

When Duviri comes out, it will probably be good, not bad.

EVEN if it turns out to be very very good according to a 1.5 year exclusively-Duviri-focused dev timeline, people will say "it's bad" or even "it's horribly lazy" just because it's not as good as a hypothetical 4 year timeline.

That's exactly what happened with New War. It was very good. But people said it's bad because they compared it with full AAA games that took 4 years to make. It's an invalid expectation.

||(Aside from the people that assumed New War would release with a ton of raid-style non-quest gameplay content despite DE saying otherwise and despite it being a completely baseless expectation that contradicts the trends of everything quest related that has ever been released.)||

[dry magnet]

I whose thinking the same 😅

[distant tusk]

It would be hilarious

[scarlet basalt]

That would be so cool if they added cars and you can ram onto people
Oh and drunk driving too

[near rune]

Belatedly adding to the Duviri release discussion to say that an extra week or two of development to polish it off is still not going to catch the same amount of bugs that will be caught within the first 24 hours of hundreds of thousands of players experiencing the update. It's a matter of scale.

[scarlet basalt]

do you think that when duviri will come out someone will try to speedrun the game only with 1 weapon ? Like lotus's hand
Or even worse : a new player that will choose duviri doesn't know how to change weapon and only use lotus's hand

[zenith jacinth]

They still have to play the awakening quest

[frail nymph]

Exactly... And nobody has to pay to access the update either, so it's a fine decision to make for the sake of efficiency

[dry magnet]

im just interested on how will go with spoilers about young tenno and all that when new players find out about him from the start in the duviri world

[frail nymph]

I think the Operator will still be kept vague. Before the mystery was "how can you change frames?"

Now the mystery will be "Why is the other side helping me?" and "Why is the other side a bunch of Warframes?"

[dry magnet]

like here something that hapend long time ago in a galaxy far far a waye type a thing? 😄

and now lets get back in to old frames in order to find out more

[fluid igloo]

how tf has this guy got amp kills without even having operator?

[distant tusk]

Yeah multiple people have said this but I’m gonna give it a day or two so they can iron the big kinks out

[near rune]

I think that's a solid decision for any major update with big gameplay changes.

[distant tusk]

Don’t they usually update on Wednesday’s?

[balmy badger]

I always play new story content day 1, the bugs are part of the experience!

Jokes aside, it's also to avoid spoilers.

[distant tusk]

Just cut yourself off from the internet for a couple days

[simple moss]

Just wait until you see the profiles that have mastered the Mausolon 5-6 times over. XD
But seriously, it's a display bug.

[fallen verge]

that or they figured out how to hack warframe.

cheats used to be a thing for it. back in the early days.

[near rune]

I don't think there's a set day. I've seen major updates on Tuesdays through Fridays.

[fallen verge]

wouldnt be surprised what with all the dataminers.

[distant tusk]

I hope it’s on a weekday so school can distract me

[near rune]

I don't ever recall a weekend update so I think you're safe

The New War came out while I was having to write my dissertation, which was… frustrating lol

[distant tusk]

Oof

[simple moss]

It's genuinely a display bug. lol

[fallen verge]

we may never know. we're not devs. who's to say this 1 person didnt just hack the game and use something that they knew was bugging out for someone else? sounds like a smart idea if they think its not real.

the ultimate cover-up

[obtuse gyro]

even more late to the discussion, given my occupation with Lightfall I've been missing out on Warframe content, whats the finalised date for Duviri?

[real niche]

"April"

[near rune]

I think it's just April

[obtuse gyro]

eh good enough, thats when all my submissions for the semester get turned it and its game time

[near rune]

You haven't missed out on any Warframe content since Citrine's Last Wish, and that was just a new mission+warframe.

[obtuse gyro]

Oh no I was here for citrine

since it dropped right before Lightfall

[near rune]

Then you're good til (some time in) April

[obtuse gyro]

has hildryn p dropped yet or is it for Duviri?

[near rune]

Oh yeah Hildryn Prime is out. I didn't really count that.

[obtuse gyro]

nice, maybe I'll spend some time finally building her up

anyways to add on to the previous conversation about criticisms, as someone who watched the absolute vitriol that some players foolishly believe to be "criticism" about Lightfall, unless there is evidence of actual thought, and presented in a manner that doesnt seek to attack the devs or give off an air of malice, I highly doubt when duviri drops we're going to be seeing actually good nor valid criticisms

7/10 times its a "DE bad" or "DE lazy" or whatever armchair dev reused unoriginal talking point it was

[near rune]

Does anyone remember the grumblings about how long it took DE to release The War Within back in 2016? This talking point has been going on for years and years.

One of my favourite YouTubers stopped doing Warframe content over War Within.

[obtuse gyro]

I vaguely remember them, which is funny because that period was one of my more active Warframe periods since I hadnt gotten into Destiny yet

[fallen verge]

hmmmmmm.... would the duality of operators and drifters make us OLD children... ORRRRR... YOUNG adults?

[frail nymph]

As far as we know, Operators are much much older than Drifters

But it depends on details about Duviri

[fallen verge]

thats because of the cryo-sleep

[frail nymph]

Not just the Cryo-Sleep

The long dream after the Old War is only one part of it.

[fallen verge]

and the fact they're basically immortal unaging children

[frail nymph]

They do age, Rell believed he would eventually die.

We just don't know how fast they age given that Rell was planning to fight the Man in the Wall for eternity

[fallen verge]

then why dont operators seem to worry about death outside dealing with kuva and TESHIN

[frail nymph]

Tenno fought as Warframes for multiple lifetimes of Ballas in the Old War. They presumably halted the ageing process during transference.

[frail nymph]

Because they have been awake for a very short period of time compared to the Old War and the long dream

[fallen verge]

so canonically... how long we talkin we've been awake eh?

[frail nymph]

Since the beginning of the quest? Maybe a few years

[fallen verge]

i need a number

[frail nymph]

Nobody knows

Alad V had enough time to research Zanuka, Mutalist Infestation, and set up his Jupiter labs. So at least that much time

They do, as shown in New War

What kind of logic is that lol

[real niche]

Operator has Helminth milk

[frail nymph]

I'll assume you're not trolling and point out that Operator said they were hungry

[real niche]

Yeah because he's disgusted at the food that's been sitting there for god knows how long

[frail nymph]

Well we don't know if that's for Warframes or Tenno...? Or do we?

So what?

[real niche]

Why would a frame need to eat is my question

[frail nymph]

Sustenance for a living being...? Rhino has eaten a person in a codex entry

Like I already told you, Operator said they were hungry

You need to provide specific evidence for such a weirdly specific claim

Occam's Razor says it's necessary to prove they have never eaten before, because proving a negative to a common occurence is impossible and them eating before is the conclusion of least assumptions.

Anyway, until then, we know they are perfectly capable of leaving the chair, and were hungry despite having access to the chair (and time to set up the other frames) before visiting the Zariman.

[obtuse gyro]

And as you've already pointed out, oppy said they were hungry, proceeded to show disgust with the food and not eat it, showing that the likely reason for not eating The Cube is due to how nasty The Cube was and not an inability nor was it because operators dont eat

[frail nymph]

You can talk about all the fanfic/headcanon you wish in general, but this channel and #lore-discussion is for lore and related theories. Theories are based on supporting evidence. They don't have to be like scientific theories to the point of being undeniable thanks to a ton of evidence, but some evidence at least.

[fallen verge]

oh crap... yeah wrong chat. i thought i was already there.

my b

[runic schooner]

@restive cypress i guess they want us here

[restive cypress]

ok

[runic schooner]

ok so u were in cave and u got to the icicle

[restive cypress]

yea

[runic schooner]

u were supposed to shoot at it
did you?

[restive cypress]

i didnt get a weapon

[runic schooner]

no like, shoot with operator beam energy thingy

[restive cypress]

nope

wait nvm it works now

[runic schooner]

if i remember correctly you need to shoot

[restive cypress]

wth

[runic schooner]

ah ok then

[restive cypress]

it didnt work before

tysm man

[runic schooner]

lmao game issue
yeah no problem

[restive cypress]

bro this next part is stupid

[runic schooner]

lmao yeah it's supposed to get you used to the operator

took me a while too the first time

[restive cypress]

theres gonna be more of this 💀

[runic schooner]

um... kinda

[restive cypress]

b r u

[restive cypress]

does the dialogue you chose change the outcome?

[runic schooner]

nope

it changes the dialogue and the dark/light meter thingy but that literally doesnt affect anything

[restive cypress]

ok what is the meter thing for then?

[frail nymph]

Just choose what you personally would do if you were the person making the choice

And if you keep doing that the game will technically calculate whether you are more like a Sun personality or a Moon personality. That's the meter

[restive cypress]

ok idk what that is for but ty

[runic schooner]

its just something that shows up in your profile and nothing else

[wild wind]

It just exists. It might do something later but now it only shows up on your profile.

[zenith jacinth]

It's not a morality meter

[restive cypress]

ok ty

[distant tusk]

Hey I saw this on Reddit and I thought it was really interesting, could the giant worms on Deimos be infested orowryms?

Looking at a comparison I don’t think it’s much of a stretch

[robust summit]

I can see it. The segments are there on both, and the armor(?) kinda lines up.

[white thistle]

Wow, that does actually looking matching, good theory!

[distant tusk]

I mean the orowryms do have some sort of lazer

[wicked iron]

I doubt it only because they are ancient, and the Mutalist strain is very recent. The Mutalist strain is what allowed the Infestation to do more than just corrupt and shut down robotic things.

It's possible, of course, I just personally don't think it's the case. 🙂

[steady gate]

Counterpoint

We all know how much the Orokin liked making things out of meat but giving them a metal shell

[frail nymph]

Yeah it's probably not purely mechanical...

It would be like the servofish getting infested

[steady gate]

looks at Myxostomata, Duroid, Chondrichord

Which they did

[frail nymph]

Yeah I meant that the Orowyrm getting infested would be like that

[wicked iron]

Fair point, indeed.

[steady gate]

Was just giving examples of fish that did get infested

[frail nymph]

I know I know, just... Nevermind

[torpid lantern]

I think it is for multiple reasons! The deimos fish show the biomechs can def get infested if there was any dispute before.
Like Baron said, they both have super powered lasers and the same general anatomy.
The Orowyrms served in/around Deimos' void space and Deimos was in the void awhile

Lastly Orowyrms were specifically released in the same update as Deimos so the concept art for infested ones could easily have become Fass and Vome

[wicked iron]

Wait, was Deimos in the Void? I don't remember that. 😮

[distant tusk]

Hi faeii

[torpid lantern]

I was sleeping, no fair

[wicked iron]

[distant tusk]

I mean you have to at some point

[distant tusk]

Also I’m stealing this for any further conversations that might happen concerning this

[torpid lantern]

Stealing the topic and now my answers!? No wonder Tenno are called Betrayers

[distant tusk]

Erm

[flat shadow]

So far infested things seem to be roughly the same size as they were. (with a couple exceptions) So what else could be big enough to be the non-mutated form? Or are they another mashup of many?

[distant tusk]

Borrowing without asking?

[simple moss]

That's called voluntaking I thought. It's like voluntold, but for ideas! \o\

[distant tusk]

the last part could be possible because of that guy from styanax animation

Also lephantis I think

[flat shadow]

And Phorid

[torpid lantern]

Dont give them ideas, noooo! Now I'm watching both of you

[simple moss]

Dun mind me, I'll just be over here. Spreading chaos. =3

[distant tusk]

😈

[torpid lantern]

[distant tusk]

Tell you what, if it happens on the sever I’ll credit you

[torpid lantern]

Not if I credit myself first

[distant tusk]

Touché

[frail nymph]

Well Lephantis grew like 100 sizes

So I'd like to thonk it was a couple Wyrm Primes that turned into them

[distant tusk]

Is there a normal wrym?

[flat shadow]

Which is one of the 'couple exceptions' I specifically mentioned. But all of the exceptions are made up of multiple sources. There isn't one that big from one creature.

[torpid lantern]

Except the Entrati but we don't really know why that happened to them

[frail nymph]

I'd say whatever turned into this thing was similar to whatever turned into those two

[distant tusk]

It could also be an older version of a wrym, as I said earlier there seems to be a juvenile one in the duviri teaser

Maybe they just grew?

[flat shadow]

Pretty sure that isn't a wyrm.

[torpid lantern]

Definitely not whatever it is

[torpid lantern]

Awwwwh baby

[distant tusk]

I think it is

[frail nymph]

I was joking but sure

[flat shadow]

That is not a sentinel wyrm. Are you referring to a different wyrm?

[distant tusk]

But anyway if they do grow, maybe they don’t grow that big (the Deimos ones) but perhaps the infestation has kept them alive long enough to grow that big

[scarlet basalt]

Infested creating titan that could destroy fortuna if they want too but it doesn't move even with their "functioning heart"

[robust summit]

Wyrm as in the orowyrm. I think that’s what they meant.

Plus, Wyrm is often used to describe dragons or other similar mythical reptiles.

It’s a giant dragon thing and that’s just cool!

[distant tusk]

Damn where’d everybody go?

[scarlet basalt]

I spoke now everyone stopped talking

[distant tusk]

I made a cool point that nobody acknowledged 😔

[robust summit]

It’s a very cool point!!!!

[distant tusk]

Thanks 😊

[robust summit]

The infestation is fun.

[scarlet basalt]

Yo what if they grew bigger ?

[distant tusk]

Who says they aren’t?

[scarlet basalt]

That's funny that there is a literal biohazard of a planet.... At the top of mars 😭

[torpid lantern]

Kinda hard to grow bigger when ya gotta focus on regrowing your head every few hours

[robust summit]

Yeah…

[distant tusk]

Aren’t they siblings?

[robust summit]

I think so?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[scarlet basalt]

Yes but I can confirm that I have siblings and we throw nuclear bomb against each other

[trim jolt]

How do you get the War? I have the Broken War but I didn’t know you could get the full sword?

[zenith jacinth]

Well, the closest thing to siblings that can exist in a weird hivemind nanomachine thing

[robust summit]

By killing Stalker.

He drops the blueprint.

[zenith jacinth]

Stalker drops the bp for the downgrade

[distant tusk]

Maybe further proving my point of the orowryms making family’s and procreating

And aging

[trim jolt]

Do I need to redo the mission?

[robust summit]

No.

[trim jolt]

Or just have him after me randomly?

[robust summit]

It’s like a 5% chance.

For the drop. He’ll show up eventually.

[orchid remnant]

there were also some of them flying around the big one in the boss battle clip

[trim jolt]

Any guaranteed way to make him show up or is it just “Kill boss and wait”

[zenith jacinth]

Get another broken war before making war though. That bp is also dropped by him.

[distant tusk]

I think it’s kill a boss and wait

[robust summit]

Yeah. It’s just wait.

He shows up eventually if you do enough missions.

You can find the exact stats for stalker invasions a wiki.

[distant tusk]

Which clip?

[robust summit]

The most recent one.

[zenith jacinth]

I have to repeat though, making war is a downgrade if you use the free one, broken war is a much better weapon

[robust summit]

Yeah. You lose the free weapon slot and the reactor.

[distant tusk]

Ooo the devstream 169?

[zenith jacinth]

Only the catalyst I think

[orchid remnant]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1772607642?lang=cs at about 2:36 onwards

[robust summit]

Yeah. My bad.

[orchid remnant]

that's when you'll see them best

[distant tusk]

Damn your right (it’s a bit hard to see)

[robust summit]

I wonder if the little ones will be conservation targets? That would be really cool to have a floof of.

[distant tusk]

Here’s a betterish pic

[distant tusk]

OROWRYM PET

[robust summit]

I’d be happy to have a floof of it, a companion would just be icing on the cake.

[distant tusk]

Same here

[trim jolt]

Ohhh ok, I mean I would’ve guessed the two halves of a broken weapon when fused makes a complete and stronger weapon but thanks :))

[robust summit]

War isn’t bad, it’s a decent weapon. Just be careful what you use as the base material.

[zenith jacinth]

War is not too good since it's mainly impact initially

[robust summit]

Like I said, decent. With a bit of careful modification you can do some fun things with it.

[wild copper]

It's not decent tho

It's easily the worst heavy blade in the game

Impact is one of the worst damage types in the game and war has a ton of it

Even a -Impact riven can't save it fully

Even masseter does fine with a -Impact riven

[distant tusk]

Just because it’s the worst doesn’t mean it’s not decent

Besides as long as you have fun it doesn’t matter

[woeful jacinth]

A sword that hits like a baseball bat

[wild copper]

I mean... I find fun in getting as much damage out of my gear as possible

And war... Ain't doin it

[distant tusk]

As long as you have fun

[robust summit]

I have fun with it. Regardless of the impact damage, because I find Tempo Royal with War is so satisfying.

[wild wind]

War should be the only weapon in the game that does Tau damage

[wild copper]

would be a neat buff, i wouldn't be offended if war and nataruk did tau (though nataruk is powerful enough )

[distant tusk]

No

More damage

[brittle coral]

I gots a question? When is Duviri dropping exactly? Is like April 1st or what?

[real niche]

"April" is all we know

[brittle coral]

Fair enough

[upper sleet]

i love nataruk and nataruk would be op with tau

[sharp pilot]

can anyone explain kuva liches to me? i have mirr imm right now

spawned it playing octavia prime

[robust summit]

It’s a dude that can’t die.

You’ll need the requiem mods from requiem relics to put it down.

[distant tusk]

The best guess I heard was April 11th

[robust summit]

You get those relics from kuva siphon missions.

[distant tusk]

They had good evidence but I don’t remember what it was

[robust summit]

After you try to kill the lich enough times, you should learn the needed requiems.

Then you just need to start trying out combinations to find the right one.

Then after all that, you can either kill the lich for their weapon or spare it to have some temporary help in missions and a very powerful crew mate in railjack.

This is a gross oversimplification of the process.

There are tons of videos better explaining it.

[sharp pilot]

thanks!

[cunning pollen]

I'm sorry WHAT

I'm losing my mind

[robust summit]

Happy to help. Enjoy yourself

[distant tusk]

I hate it ngl

[robust summit]

Yeah. They have faces in their "chests"

[cunning pollen]

[distant tusk]

Theres some sort of spoiler mode or whatever that changes it back but it also changes other cool things

[robust summit]

Where did you think their heads went?

[distant tusk]

It’s a setting

[cunning pollen]

Gone!!!

[vital creek]

👀 now i'm curious because i figured it'd be the end of april

[distant tusk]

Can I dm you the vid?

[vital creek]

is it the one by aznvasions?

[distant tusk]

Yep

What to prepare for duviri

[vital creek]

time to skim it

[distant tusk]

It’s near the beginning

It’s like the first thing he talks about

[vital creek]

hmmm yea maybe it will be mid april

[distant tusk]

I’ve been saying the should do a fake release for April 1st 🤣

[woeful jacinth]

Yea Solaris are pretty much the Krang

[robust summit]

Yeah. It’s a thing.

Don’t worry about it. It’s probably healthy.

[cunning pollen]

It's crazy what long term thermia exposure does to a person

[dry magnet]

https://twitter.com/pablomakes/status/1640892108004261889?s=46&t=ktN44CFSBd_nyFA4tI8CVA

Pablo (@PabloMakes)

Let the hammer do the talking 🔨

#Warframe

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Twitter · Mar 29, 2023, 1:42 AM

New Duviri gameplay

[pseudo sable]

I don't know how I feel about Drifters being purely melee centered. It looks fun but the game isn't really built for it with the way melee hits interact with enemies, and it kind of comes out of nowhere for them as a character?

gonna play a ton of it no matter what though

[dry magnet]

You know how melee combat works on our archwong. Maybe not that fast but something similar would be super ninja cool to have that on our Drifter, combat would be more cool and fun to play with Drifter melee. And just better vibe and similar direction then what we are getting…

[pseudo sable]

A little bit of that lunge might benefit some of their melee combat? But only a little, they definitely need to feel weak compared to warframes and turning them into crazy magic ninjas would just be redundant.

[supple dagger]

Those tall walls in the background look like something from a Medieval castle

[dry magnet]

Yea it looks cool. Im hoping we can explore them and not to be just there to fill the void…

But its nice that they add more things like this like some castle looking things homes npc and what not and not just some mountains and forests.

[supple dagger]

patiently waiting for wisp prime

[robust summit]

It’ll be here eventually.

[supple dagger]

Looks fun

[tacit venture]

April 1st

[scarlet basalt]

that's literally a test for soulframe lol, Like with soulframes's style of combat, it really feel like they're using that
But either way i think the combat look pretty ok, i think they should make the enemies faster or having a dude that can boost their attack speed (so you have a sense of priority) ?
Enemies can parry your attack btw,staggering you for few second

[dry magnet]

This is the type a game when gets annoying if enemy can block your attack or if they stun you every 5sec. Its nice to have enemy variants but its little restricted when you have this slow type a gameplay. Me personally dont like to be very complicated or just ultra fast like what we have with our frames. But im just hoping is not going to be boring over time. But other then that its looks interesting and fun

Some how when he strikes with a melee no matter how big impact is giving it still has old type a game vibe like mount and blade type a game just swinging but its like he’s striking with a toy swords and not real swords. I don’t know how to explain but its cool combat when is fast and you cant see much but when is slow you can see that is something is just missing in here…

[scarlet basalt]

Yep, enemies cannot block you every 5 second but they can deploy some kind of shield as we've seen with the previous devstream that was focusing on duviri
Some enemies cannot block you but have something else : literally sending mortar bomb at you 😭
it will be fun i agree but maybe the challenge will come in a way, we don't know what they're going to bring us, like if there's some modifier on enemies that will greatly increase their speed but you get better rewards for example 🤔 ?
There something funny about this gameplay : there is no weight in your combats, it feel like you're slashing through hordes because there is no physics between your melee and the enemies lol
It's an interesting a way to make enemies variant : can block you or instead will have different skills to use. I think they're going great, but i wonder one thing too, will there be some crossbow dax ?

[dry magnet]

Yea good point

[scarlet basalt]

i think they will show how warframe can be hard if they remade the game with duviri lol

Like,thank god there is not the thrax scythe guy in duviri, this dude walk so fast and has some big range, i even wonder if this will be a mini boss for duviri 😭

i don't like the easy stagger that they've made with the gun combat tbh

[languid torrent]

I hope the gunfire only recharges if you get melee kills/do melee damage.

[robust summit]

It kinda reminds me of Bloodborne’s parry via gunfire mechanic… that’s kinda fun.

[stark falcon]

for some reason drifter has render priority so you can go above objects and look small

kinda hilarious ngl

[zenith jacinth]

That looks like a bug

[scarlet basalt]

So someone noticed on a official animation made for warframe.
That they're releasing duviri on the 8th of april lol.
If this is really what it says,i don't know how to speak chinese but 8th april there's something
Or it's chinese's tennocon

[supple dagger]

I’m assuming that you’re talking about the Tencent video about Warframes 10th anniversary

Idk it could possibly be like an April fools joke or something

[scarlet basalt]

i don't think so ? Since it's from the chinese part of warframe,things could be a lot more different so it's more about china than outside

[balmy badger]

According to an image translator, it's for some kind of online event like a stream or something, not a release date.

[stark falcon]

no, you can put your camera behind them and it renders you above

[zenith jacinth]

Why is the elder queen there

[zenith jacinth]

Sounds like a tennocon-related thing

[molten oxide]

It's probably China's 10th anniversary event or something similar

[wicked iron]

No, it hasn't been out in China that long... Hm...

[scarlet basalt]

maybe they have more animation for devstream's intro than us 😭

[wicked iron]

I like our stream intros. XD

[scarlet basalt]

thank god it's professional and they didn't do an excal doing the default dance 🙏

[supple dagger]

This is desktop wallpaper worthy ngl

[near rune]

where does that come from?

[wicked iron]

It comes from that.

[near rune]

:/

[trim jolt]

So far the New War is amazing

[surreal smelt]

duviri is out or are those above posts just sneak peaks?

[robust summit]

Sneak peeks unfortunately. Won’t be out until April.

[surreal smelt]

april 8th?

[robust summit]

No clue.

All I know is April.

Sorry I can’t help you on the exact date.

[surreal smelt]

it's understandable

[frail nymph]

It's certainly not what google thinks it is

[trim jolt]

I noticed something in the new war, are the 3 archons Warframe bodies?

[supple dagger]

LOL

[supple dagger]

Yep they indeed are. Specifically Mag(Nira), Rhino(Amar), and Loki(Boreal)

[trim jolt]

Oh Rhino, I thought Amar was Excalibur

I also guessed that Nira was Mag as joke

[frail nymph]

All prime versions too

[trim jolt]

I figured it was the first 3 you get to choose at the beginning of the game

[supple dagger]

Amars the coolest looking one imo, which is why I saved him for last

[frail nymph]

Same, I melted him with my operator

[supple dagger]

My operators amp was trash at the time tbh. Only recently have I gotten the 777 amp and nearly have unlocked all the way bounds in every focus tree

[slender roost]

You guys think the Devs ismight add a way for players to change their alignment? Yk like if your current alignment is 75% White and 25% Black but wanted to change it to 50/50

[steady gate]

The way to change that is ‘pick different choices the first time you do a quest’

[rain otter]

You can replay it

And have it change

[steady gate]

Last I heard that didn’t work

[fallen verge]

where would i post a fashionframe of my drifter? it seems to be fitting for 2 catagories.

[prisma fractal]

Not true, once you made a choice in a quest you played for 1st time you stuck with that choice and the alignment that comes with it.

only way to change it is when you play quest that has choices you haven't played before and choose opposite. that's the only way

[obtuse gyro]

#fashion-frame probably but with spoiler tags

[stark falcon]

Do I get to keep the guns for drifter?

I really loved the gameplay

[loud kayak]

Yes

[frail nymph]

Warframe▪︎ on the 8th of April▪︎ in Shenzhen▪︎ Deal to the Kingdom

[stark falcon]

Like I can use them with drifter right?

[loud kayak]

You can only use Sirocco with the Drifter, Rumblejack and Nataruk are Warframe only.

[stark falcon]

What's sirocco again

The pistol?

Can I get other weapons with drifter?

[cyan crest]

Sirocco is the pistol amp, yes

[cyan crest]

Only amps for now

[stark falcon]

Are there other pistol amps?

[cyan crest]

Only the ones you craft
Amps will look like pistols with the drifter no matter what

[stark falcon]

That's pretty cool

[dry magnet]

I think it makes more sense if we are getting duviri on April 7 and next day is maybe just something about streaming or day for something like that

[heavy pollen]

Spoiler alert: The moment when I keep beating up stalker , right after he helped me get lotus back , I thought we were cool stalker wtf

[tepid sonnet]

deception has always been an effective tactic

[fleet veldt]

Stalker's probably a bit 'stuck' in the same way Umbra was stuck with a single memory - except Stalker probably was given better treatment and got to keep all(?) of his memory, maybe even assigned a Tenno more to exploit said Tenno's Transference and other assets.

[slender roost]

Not when I did the quests years ago back when they came out lol

[heavy pollen]

Well I been told he will be deeply on our side due to the next update in a few days right

[fleet veldt]

According to the Devstream teasing his presence in Duviri, that version of him is kind'a temporally displaced?

Bet is he got stuck in a Void anomaly and then was 'halved' - one half came back and crafted emotionally-named weapons with a vengeful mind. The other... was here.

Could be here. May've been here. Something like that.

[robust summit]

That or the fact that he kinda obeys Hunhow now… maybe that has something to do with it?

[stark falcon]

Did natahs brother die in the flames

That seems just odd

[robust summit]

He either died in the fires or was crushed by the wreckage… Erra was killed off very abruptly.

[stark falcon]

Odd and pathetic death for someone as strong as he should've been

[fleet veldt]

Then again, he was supposedly dead back in the Old War.

[steady gate]

We have no explanation for how he came back

but my theory is that Ballas rebuilt him, but not too well

[fluid igloo]

I do hope they bring back Erra somehow

[robust summit]

They kinda have. In the twisted body horror method that calls itself an archon.

Uncle Erra now has a goat head and calls himself Pazzul.

[frail nymph]

In the Solar flare that blew a hole clean through the thick hull of the mothership he was standing in, yes.

[frail nymph]

He's not stronger than something like the Sun that was eating up entire Murexes like nothing

[frail nymph]

I suspect whatever the method was, had to do with the crystal you break using Paracesis

[crude stump]

QUICK!! I NEED A HELMINTH NAME

I'm thinking Jeremy, any ideas??!!

[loud kayak]

You can change it later so it isn't that serious.

[crude stump]

It's serious to me

[uncut junco]

I may be able to change it's name, but it'll always be herbert.

[orchid remnant]

gobug

[crude stump]

I named him Krunky

[orchid remnant]

goodname

[crude stump]

I will now feed Krunky

[uncut junco]

"hey krunky, subsume this dude"

"krunk that"
I'll see myself out tyvm.

[crude stump]

BAHAA

YOU HAVE TO FEED HIM DIFFERENT THINGS

THIS IS LITERALLY THE BEST GAM EVER

[uncut junco]

Do not feed it orokin cells, neurodes or neural sensors

[orchid remnant]

he says nice things if you do

he'll give you spider powers or super powers or something

[crude stump]

Why not does he not like them

LMAO my demon child Krunky has tastes in respect to material typr

[uncut junco]

More because of how tedious it is to get those in large quantities

i feed him whatever my RJ adventures bring together once a week.

[orchid remnant]

I wish I could do rj 😭 my mac def can't run it

[crude stump]

I'm freakin dying rn

Does he not like nav coordinates?

He tried them and now they give less nourishment

[stark falcon]

I have like 100 orokin cells

Sitting around because I never use them

[orchid remnant]

krunky loves everything, but you need to feed him everything in moderation

he needs all of his vitamins, not just some

[stark falcon]

Care, I do not

[uncut junco]

either you already crafted a lot, or you should start crafting more

[stark falcon]

Craft what?

I have like 10 weapons cooking up today

[crude stump]

HE NEEDS A VARIETY OF FOODS

THE GAME ABOUT SPACE NINJAS IS TEACHING PEOPLE TO HAVE A VARIED DIET

[orchid remnant]

huh

[uncut junco]

Last i checked i couldn't eat damn space rocks, but sure.

[stark falcon]

Orokin cells taste like kfc

[uncut junco]

What kinda kfc do you have?

[loud kayak]

OFC, Orokin Fried Chicken

[stark falcon]

But like @uncut junco what should I be crafting?

[uncut junco]

mr fodder. Maybe also grind some primes you don't have yet so you can rid of some of those spare cells

the obvious question is what haven't you crafted yet.

[dry magnet]

If duviri have flying worm dragon like. And game is going in similar direction to the soulframe. Do you all think that soulframe is going to have dragons and flying horses? 😁

[zenith jacinth]

...what.

[dry magnet]

Duviri is givin similar vibe to soulframe game

Looks likes they are going in similar directions with this 2

And if thatc the case then maybe they will add similar things like dragons and what not

[orchid remnant]

i think they'll add flying dragons and horses, but not dragons and flying horses

[dry magnet]

Well what ever they are planning to add in just hoping they will have some cool dungeons similar to what we seen in wayfinder

Its has to be something more then just another mmorpg leveling up and thats it

And also hoping for good story

[flint totem]

last second transference

literally 1 HP away from static

and for voids sake, this ropalolyst aint dropping the systems

[dry magnet]

Comon DE we want some new and cool haircut...Then when we finally getting new 1 in duviri is this-_- xD

[tacit venture]

https://tenor.com/view/29-gif-20616993

[stark falcon]

Arthur morgan

[sharp pilot]

y’all think that komi (the game played between umbra and ballas in the sacrifice) is a solved game

[stark falcon]

Solved game how?

[near rune]

Wikipedia says that Go (the real-life game) is partially solved, but komi in Warframe takes place on a much smaller board, so I imagine it is solved.

Solved in this context means that every permutation has been calculated. "a game whose outcome (win, lose or draw) can be correctly predicted from any position, assuming that both players play perfectly".

[real niche]

See: Tic Tac Toe

[stark falcon]

Once you will lose to ballas right?

Cuz I'm pretty sure I accidentally won the first time

And won twice in total I think

[zenith jacinth]

It's scripted that you lose the last round iirc

[void ingot]

LOL wtf

[near rune]

Yeah you win some of the komi games but you can't win the last game. If you try to make a winning move, Ballas overrides you and makes you misplay and you lose.

[zenith jacinth]

Ballas changes the board when the player looks at the painting or something and makes it impossible to win through that

[torpid lantern]

That happens sometimes. I actually think it makes her look very pretty

[median relic]

It’s April, are we allowed to have the full Duviri trailer now? I wonder whether the trailer will come out before or with duviri.

[rancid ermine]

Probably the day before or of

[median relic]

I just want that hype music