spoiler-chat

[gleaming sapphire]

maybe another way to put it is for example say warframes were a real thing and you were the Operator, you put on a VR headset and the Warframe is like the extension of you, you move the VR controller and the warframe moves.

[obtuse gyro]

thats how the somatics work

[gleaming sapphire]

But now its more like - You put on the Vr headset to control a person called the Operator who then puts on a VR headset to control the warframe

[obtuse gyro]

have you uh, played the sacrifice yet?

[gleaming sapphire]

so it should be pretty easy to explain for you then, why? Why add in the extra step? Why do we need to put on the Vr headset just to control someone to put on a VR headset

[obtuse gyro]

ngl chief youre the one adding the extra step

I'll say this again, you aint some otherworldly being controlling the tenno controlling the frame

[gleaming sapphire]

"Operators control the Warframes through a process known as Transference, which uses a device called the Somatic Link to aid in channeling and consequently transfer the Operator's consciousness and powers into their Warframes that they control as a surrogate body, even over long distances."

[obtuse gyro]

you as the player are the tenno controlling the frame

[gleaming sapphire]

"Operators control the Warframes"

[obtuse gyro]

you are the operator

[gleaming sapphire]

"The Operator is the Tenno represented by the player, a young human whose Void powers are the source of their Warframe's abilities." Last time I checked I am not young nor had void powers

[supple dagger]

You haven’t played the other story quests have you?

[obtuse gyro]

"The Operator is the Tenno represented by the player, a young human whose Void powers are the source of their Warframe's abilities." Last time I checked I am not young nor had void powers
good sir what does represented mean

[gleaming sapphire]

idc its the spoilers chat if I am saying something wrong please correct me

[obtuse gyro]

when you play games like say metal gear solid, are you some otherworldly being controlling snake or are you snake

or when you play God of War are you not Kratos?

[gleaming sapphire]

Yes so the Operator is the representation of us right?

[supple dagger]

Well you learn all this information from the other quests, so you’re kinda missing out if other people just spoil it for you

[supple dagger]

The operator is the child. He/she operates Warframes. That’s basically it

[obtuse gyro]

He she they it, depending entirely on the competency of the fashion

[supple dagger]

Mhm

[gleaming sapphire]

you see that how I thought warframe was different from other games for example in your God of War reference to Kratos you control Kratos and use his powers. But in warframe I thought that the warframe was an extension of you, the Operator. This means yes you do not personally have the powers of your frame irl but the frame requires you the operator to function and thus by extension the frame is an extention of you, your choices in frames, guns, powers was an extension of you

[obtuse gyro]

I've seen some terrible op fashion that banished them straight to lesser primate status

[supple dagger]

LOLL

[supple dagger]

Not every game is the same. The Warframe requires the operator to function. You’re Just Controlling the operator cause that’s who you play as

[thick jolt]

So basically what ink is saying is that they feel more immersed if there was no character
Did i get it right ?

[gleaming sapphire]

I know now but it is just sad to find out as a returning player is all

[obtuse gyro]

think so

[supple dagger]

Idk about that. I personally loved the operator and it changed the way I saw the game lol

[gleaming sapphire]

Yes its the kind of immersion that a game like warframe can offer that no other game really could

Maybe in a few decades when VR tech is cracked and a new space sifi shooter comes out where you are the Operator of a thing but up until this point I thought it was the only title that broke the 4th wall and made tenno very important

[supple dagger]

Before the Second Dream, I always thought that Warframes were the operator and that was it, but ig everyone has their own mindset on how things work

[gleaming sapphire]

I guess the trap I fell into the was the name specifically "Operator". For example if someone is on earth controlling a rover or robot on a distant planet like mars you would refer to the person controlling that robot as the "Operator" of the robot

[daring steeple]

It takes a while, but you get used to it, and the rest of the lore reveals

[gleaming sapphire]

I was about to dive back into the game I was spening hours watching videos to catch up on things and starting to plan out what order to do things in (last played in 2015) finding out about things like all the extra mods, rivin mods, new frames, new prime frames, new weapons, special mods for specific frames and or specific weapons, railjack, open world stuff, fishing and then I stumbled across arcane mods and I was trying to figure out how they work becuase it seems pretty important and it said that we can get one for the "Operator" and I was like "Huh... I thought I was the Operator" but it turns out its a whole new thing with abilites, grinding, mods, gameplay.. the rest kind of feels like warframe content but the Operator feels more like extra for the sake of extra

[supple dagger]

Welll when you know the lore to the game the operator makes a lot more sense lol

[gleaming sapphire]

what lore am I missing?

[obtuse gyro]

I'm guessing you aint play the second dream?

oh man oh man you're at the tip of all the warframe cinematic quests

[vast harbor]

Second Dream, everything after

[gleaming sapphire]

are you suggesting that the lore videos and the wiki are in some kind of conspiracy to hide lore information so people have to play it to understand it?

[supple dagger]

If you really don’t want to play all the quests for yourself then you should probably just read about it or watch a video about the lore. But AGAIN it’s better to just play the quests yourself or else you’ll miss out on a lot

[gleaming sapphire]

I'll just ask this then, prior to " the second dream" quest what information did you guys have that lead you believe that you were not the Operator?

[obtuse gyro]

the wiki itself isnt entirely reliable, your safer bet is to read the transcripts of the quests instead

I know cuz some of the wiki editors were content putting wrong interpretations up until pestered to fix it

[obtuse gyro]

not one moment did the idea of player =/= operator enter the mind

[supple dagger]

Amen to that

[obtuse gyro]

the player has always been the operator, even if we find out that we're space kids

[thick jolt]

Honestly you would have to play the game and interact with the characters to really care about them
Its the difference between reading a book review and actually reading it

[gleaming sapphire]

so when you select say a color on your warframe and Ordis says "Strange, Ordis did not see the value of those photonic wavelengths until now." It is a colour you as a player selected so who is Ordis talking to?

[obtuse gyro]

we only start finding out that we've been active warcrimes this entire time once we've done the second dream

[vital creek]

it is a color the operator selected

[vast harbor]

You're thinking way too deep into this

[obtuse gyro]

the operator, who is you

because you are the operator and as the operator you chose the colour

[gleaming sapphire]

just to be super clear we are not the Operators we control the Operators

[vital creek]

we are the operator

[obtuse gyro]

I'll say this for the 3rd time we are not some otherworldly being controlling the operator, we play as the operator

[gleaming sapphire]

you are a child with void powers who is also immortal?

[vital creek]

player isn't canon, yes in a literal sense we technically control the operator, but for the sake of in game lore we are the operator

[supple dagger]

According to the lore yes, but idk about being immortal

[vital creek]

immortal isn't really confirmed but wouldn't surprise me

[gleaming sapphire]

its obviously easy to understand in hidsight after knowing the events of the second dream that the Operator is indeed what it is

[obtuse gyro]

this aint Destiny there aint a higher universe where we the real humans exists in comparison to the warframe universe

[vital creek]

unless duviri goes in very interesting directions ^

[gleaming sapphire]

I am just shocked this whole time when someone like the lotus or ordis addressed you or something you specifically did you would not even think "I am or could be the Operator as they are referring to things I as a player am specifically doing" instead you didn't even think or have the thought that we could be the operators

[obtuse gyro]

we aint no patron deities possessing children possessing golems as if they were a warlock

[vital creek]

because the vast majority of games don't have the player as a canon entity, and without any evidence to indicate warframe is going in that direction i saw no reason to make that baseless assumption

[gleaming sapphire]

in destiny you control a character and with or without the player the story goes on as it is assumed that without the player the character will just do everything without you anyway just like controlling kratos or spiderman or any other character like that

[supple dagger]

Not every game is the sammeeee

[obtuse gyro]

the exact same thing happens in warframe

you werent there for a truck load of operations where we canonically as the tenno did

[gleaming sapphire]

its not baseless I have given examples of things you do that characters in the game specifically reference

[obtuse gyro]

yet the tenno did them all

[vital creek]

you have given examples of things the operator did, not a single thing the player did but the operator couldn't have

[thick jolt]

So why can you stand being a player/operatir controlling a warframe
But cant stand the idea of being a player controlling the tenno/operator
This is whats confusing me the most

[obtuse gyro]

if youre a returning player you should have missed the bit where we the tenno fought off the fomorian fleet that destroyed multiple relays

and then missed the part where we the tenno repaired some of the relays

[gleaming sapphire]

ok another example without knowlage of the second dream who is Ordis talking to when he says "If I may say, Operator, your chosen warframe..suits you! Ha. Ha."

[obtuse gyro]

but the tenno still did it

[vital creek]

yes because the operator has multiple warframes

he even directly says Operator, because he is talking to the Operator

[obtuse gyro]

how are you still divorcing the idea that you the player are playing as operator controlling the warframe from the idea that operators exist in the universe?

[gleaming sapphire]

yes the tenno did but piror to knowing about the second dream to my understanding without the Operator (Us) the Warframe would be in the void gathering dust until such a time as the player comes back again and Ordis says "welcome back Operator"

[vast harbor]

Because the operator/tenno/child was woken from their stasis, and when that happened, they reconnected with a warframe

This is the weirdest hill to die on

[gleaming sapphire]

but with the new information it is like any other story that in the absence of the player the Operator can still and does as Bau said function

[obtuse gyro]

until the second dream happened, the operator's body isnt even in the orbitor, ordis's only indication that the operator is active is when the warframe moves

[vital creek]

warframe could just be brain dead for a week and ordis wouldn't bat an eye

[supple dagger]

I honestly just thought that whenever Ordis said “Welcome back Operator!”, the Warframe(who i thought was the operator before the second dream) took a nap or rested lol

[gleaming sapphire]

So your telling me when Ordis says "Maintain the habitat. Maintain the Operator. Mobilize the Tenno." he can't "Maintain the Operator" because he does not even know where they are?

[charred nest]

He could be talking about the

Warframes

[obtuse gyro]

and when does he say this?

[gleaming sapphire]

A Warframe is not an Operator

[charred nest]

Ik, but the Frames are also something to be taken care of as well

[vital creek]

Ordis regularly refers to you as operator before TSD though

[gleaming sapphire]

its one of his many idle sayings that prior to the knowlage of the second dream seem to make the player out to be the operator

[obtuse gyro]

hell ordis knows about us, he refers to the Dream

[gleaming sapphire]

yes so what I would like would be an example of something he says to suggest that the Operator is actually something else somwhere else

[obtuse gyro]

by refering to the Dream

by asking us if we remember the old war

unless you mean to tell me you were there when the sentients were running amok in system

[charred nest]

I assume he knew even before TSD due to the Old War

[gleaming sapphire]

so you are telling me prior to the events of the second dream you knew what the old war was?

[thick jolt]

Theres the old second dream teaser
It a text in orokin that pops into loading screens

[vital creek]

what it was? yes?

[thick jolt]

Yeah its mentioned in the mirage quest that is older than the second dream

[vital creek]

remember it not so much

[supple dagger]

Even Ordis mentions it

[obtuse gyro]

hell, excalibur prime was one of the first things in the game and it came with this

We took the twisted few that had returned from that place. We built a frame around them, a conduit of their affliction. Gave them the weapons of the old ways. Gun and blade. A new warrior, a new code was born. These rejects, these Tenno, became our saviors. Warrior-Gods cast in steel and fury striking our enemies in a way they could never comprehend. Excalibur was the first.

- Orokin 'Warframe' Archives```

[thick jolt]

Yeah there were some crumbs left here and there about both the old war and the tenno/warframe connection

[obtuse gyro]

We took the twisted few that had returned from that place.

thats us the tenno

[gleaming sapphire]

well not us but assumedly an older version of the Operators?

[obtuse gyro]

older version? its the same operator

we're awfully old for space orphans

[vast harbor]

The Operators are from the Zariman Ten Zero jump. That's where they came from. We're them. Always have been.

[gleaming sapphire]

but unfortunately it does not really create a paradox as both can exist there can be people playing before us that could be the old war

the devs creating the game and testing it could be "The old war"

[obtuse gyro]

huh?

[vital creek]

all operators were created at the same time, the singular zariman jump

[supple dagger]

I think you’re just overthinking it at this point

[vast harbor]

literally what are you even talking about

[thick jolt]

You lost me there

[vital creek]

every single real world event isn't canon to warframe lore

[obtuse gyro]

like even if you want to disregard Excal prime's codex entry we have this little tibit from mag prime:

We sat strapped in, safeties off, waiting for the punch. Waiting for death. Through my filthy porthole I saw stars among the outlines of the other Splinter ships queuing for the Solar Rail. It would soon grip us with an incomprehensible power and cast us through the void into the mouth of our enemy.

I watched the ships one-by-one bending and gone. Each crammed with zero-tech soldiers sucking stale air, white knuckling their percussion rifles. Each filled with a desperation that comes from extinction. Our ship would be the last to cross the gap. Our ship had special cargo.

It was essentially empty. Just ten men, like me, strapped in with the best zero-tech suits and weapons the empire could build... and "it". "It" stood in the aisle, a slender and eyeless metal form. A Tenno inside its Warframe. Vaguely human, vaguely feminine. Was this armor or some ornate carapace for the monster that lived inside? I strained against the harness as the ship yawed for final approach. I could see the Tenno standing there freely. Solemn and gold-gleaming, oblivious to the inertial force.

I had been, until then, a Tenno denier. They were ghosts, propaganda, twisted casualties of the void era. Not possibly real. Yet here it was in the flesh. The Empire, in their desperation, was going to turn the demons loose and hope for the best. Who did we fear more, the enemy or this monster? We had our safeties off, could we trust it? Then it didn't matter anymore. The punch came - and our windows became blinding. When we could see again our ship was somewhere else, shattered and dead in an instant.

My lungs were flattened, eyes full of death. Ship debris glittered like a night snow. The alien blue star was dark and blinding beyond us. The countless articulating worm-ships of our enemy, ringed in glowing discs, undulating and heat-bursting the surviving soldiers like me. This is where I died. I was in R-disc, sweeping over my right and setting my blood on fire. My vision flattened, the hearing muffled and buzzed. I could feel the side of my face going slack and wet.

I was in a dying dream. I saw a bright spot blurring and weaving toward me. I felt a tug toward it from the metal clasps on my suit. It reached me, rising up - a gleaming beast, a plume of golden wings rising and unfolding behind it. An angel. It snatched me from my death. I could feel my lungs fill as it wrapped me in its wings. Its Void Shield shimmered blue, strained under the enemy beams. I felt a suddenly tug of acceleration. I closed my eyes and held on it like a child.

I awoke on the floor, the sting of crisping flesh on my face and side. It was standing over me, the wings gone. I heard the cracking of weapons echoing down the corridor. Maybe the mission would be saved, but I was dying and so I waved my hand to send it away. I felt a pistol thrust in my hand as I was heaved to my feet. The angel had saved me, pulled me from hell, but it would not pity me. I was to die on my feet, by its side. I turned my good side toward the gunfire and raised the gun. It nodded, its outstretched metal hand surging and pulsing in ancient shapes as blue shimmered around me. It turned, drawing its blade and together we surged headlong into the hailstorm of death and fire that awaited us.```

a straight up record of a battle in the old war

[gleaming sapphire]

I may have an irrational way of looking at it but most Reponses to my proposals are non responses like "I think you’re just overthinking it at this point" correct you got me I guess I am just overthinking it but as the less overthinking smarter individual could you instead provide a real response to help instead of just providing non responses

[obtuse gyro]

hell we can look at update 7 when the stalker was introduced, long before the second dream, that tells us of the aftermath of the old war

The Tenno appeared at the Terminus, gleaming and victorious. Our cold and gold Emperors, breathless, bathed you in savior's silk. Then came the sound. Across all our worlds, all at once, the ceremonial Naga drums. A royal salute to the honored Tenno. Ten solemn beats to declare the suffering was over. I watched from a distance, with the rest of the low Guardians. With each beat terror began to crush my throat. The Tenno were not stoic and silent. They were waiting. They were poised. I tried to call out but only a strangled whisper escaped.

When the ninth beat rang a torrent of blood filled the stadium, loosed by Tenno blades. The drums, the Empire, fell silent forever.

Now I hunt, dividing your numbers. Watching from that dark place, cataloging your sins, I am the ghost of retribution. You may forget but you are not innocent.```

[vital creek]

you need evidence to indicate the real world is remotely canon to warframe

[gleaming sapphire]

sure platinum

[vital creek]

you have provided zero evidence to your claims, and ignore our evidence to the contrary

[gleaming sapphire]

you swipe your irl credit card and you get currency in game that you can use in game

[obtuse gyro]

platinum is a real thing in the warframe universe, the corpus board has been shown bidding with it

[supple dagger]

Watch a Video about the lore or just literally learn it from anywhere else

[vital creek]

wish we could rob the corpus of their sweet platinum

[gleaming sapphire]

I belive it is a real thing or I probably wouldn't have used it as an example. So explain to me then how your buying platinum irl makes it appear in game?

[obtuse gyro]

they straight up starting bidding in the millions for a warframe

like heloooooo IM SELLING GIVE ME

[vital creek]

ooooooooo

i don't need ember prime that much

[vast harbor]

Give plat as higher-tier Index rewards

[obtuse gyro]

ILL GIVE A PRIME DAMNIT JUST BUY IT FROM ME FOR A MILLION PLAT

[balmy ice]

Index would need to be a lot harder

[vast harbor]

ye, make index harder for it

[balmy ice]

And you get only 1 piece at a umbra forma drop rate

Since it’s free it can’t be traded either

[vast harbor]

I suddenly do not like this idea anymore lol

[gleaming sapphire]

Maybe because you don't want to reply to the Plat example i'll give another. What is the Steam logo in the Warframe universe? I can see it in game on screens when I want to buy a skin for example but what is it to the Operator?

[vital creek]

i am not going to give myself a headache processing your mental gymnastics

the rest of chat can have fun dealing with this

[gleaming sapphire]

it really should be quite a simple answer considering I have provided zero evidence to your claims and I am overthinking it

[graceful zodiac]

The answer would be nothing then

[obtuse gyro]

You are using ludonarrative dissonance to justify what has been proven false by the sacrifice alone

[gleaming sapphire]

Maybe a suggested thing would be that in the Warframe universe it means something else or perhaps they can't see that at all

[vast harbor]

It's a game mechanic to make money. Microtransactions. They hold zero connotation for the Warframe lore and universe. It's quality of life thing for the actual player so they don't have to go to a different website to buy them.

[obtuse gyro]

Most deluxe skins and tennogen have been stated by DE to be non-canon

[gleaming sapphire]

Thank you for the actual response

I guess it could be reasonable that platinum that the Operator interacts with and what we purchase are kept the same for Microtransaction purposes

[balmy storm]

tennogen I understand but it’s weird if some deluxes are canon and some aren’t

[graceful zodiac]

Just look at the Proto skins and the Sentient skins

[obtuse gyro]

its not really weird, some deluxes are really just fashion to the max and dont have any lore relation

others are subtle nods to DE's older titles

[gleaming sapphire]

So I guess in game the Operator just does not see the steam symbol

[balmy storm]

It’s part of the UI for a game mechanic

[thick jolt]

The in lore market console probably doesnt even have the same categories it does for us

[gleaming sapphire]

Another example I would have used would be "Tennocon" where I assumed real Tennos (us) have a con

[graceful zodiac]

What?

[obtuse gyro]

yes and no. there is the irl event tennocon, and then for the tenno in-game theres the tennocon relay

[gleaming sapphire]

but I guess in hindsight its just a convenient name and does not imply that we are tenno

[thick jolt]

Yeah

[balmy storm]

But we play as tenno

[thick jolt]

Leeeets not go back there

[balmy storm]

Would actually be kinda cool if Tennocon had a canon counterpart but at the same time it might not be a good idea to bring a ton of Tenno together in one place
Kind of an easy target

[random pulsar]

What about relays

[gleaming sapphire]

I can't belive I was the only person who thought like this after having a robot tell you "YOU ARE THE OPERATOR" "YOU ARE THE OPERATOR" "YOU ARE THE OPERATOR" on repeat for hours everyone just assumed that we are infact not the Operator.. I guess I am too easily influenced

[obtuse gyro]

the tennocon relay ducky

thats an actual thing

[balmy storm]

No ik

I mean in universe the tenno have a convention

A big meetup to. Idk plan, vibe, whatever tenno actually do other than do missions or save people

[graceful zodiac]

Because this isn't the first time people have played a video game

[balmy storm]

I know relays are basically that but tennocon is bigger, if not just cause it’s special

[thick jolt]

That would be the red text cult that meets when a funny voice speaks in their head

[obtuse gyro]

I wouldnt worry about gathering in one place, cuz thats either a dojo or a relay and the last time someone tried to destroy a relay we had 3days to beat the living crap out of it

[gleaming sapphire]

What are you implying?

[balmy storm]

Red Text is totally 100% canon and is my favorite character

[vast harbor]

Red Text is the most important canon character

[balmy storm]

Fact

[random pulsar]

Facr

[balmy storm]

You right

[thick jolt]

In the final confronttation red text comes and saves us from wally

[balmy storm]

Red Text announces a hotfix to nerf Wally

Hotfixes are canon too totally

[obtuse gyro]

hell, the moment a fomorian appears you have that many tenno just there

[vast harbor]

Red Text is the nerf to Wally, just beats the living crap out of him

[obtuse gyro]

like imagine you pull up to a relay and a whole host of archwings and railjacks just start to pour out like angry wasps

[balmy storm]

Yeah idk what I’m on about we’re armed to the teeth and relays are full of us and allies-
If anyone tried to attack during Tennocon we would wipe them off the map

[thick jolt]

Im giggling at this

[balmy storm]

I want this

I would actually love to see that so much

I greatly underestimated the security of relays lol

[vast harbor]

The attack of the fashion frames coupled with the most meta weps available lol

[thick jolt]

We would put flight of the bumblebee on speakers over comms
The enemy would be terrified and confused

[balmy storm]

Now I want something where several railjacks have to attack a singular enemy + an army

raids but railjack
raidjack

[vast harbor]

Would each one have a full squad tho? 4 railjacks with 4 full squads, 16 players just messing up the day of whatever they're attacking

[balmy storm]

yeah

that would be amazing and probably awful connection-wise

Host migration after host migration…

That’s how we can defeat Wally, let’s just host migrate him away from us

[vast harbor]

Definitely terrible connection wise lmao

[obtuse gyro]

DE invests in dedicated Raid servers that have DE as the host instead

this will be the monthly sortie

[balmy storm]

This sounds awful

[obtuse gyro]

this monthly sortie has 5 stages, each stage requires like 3 different missions to be done

so basically a sortie within the sortie

[balmy storm]

And it has normal sortie rewards

[obtuse gyro]

so like 4 stages of sortie missions and the 5th stage is the 16 player railjack

[vast harbor]

Exact same drop rates too

[balmy storm]

but 1 guaranteed lord shard or. Something

[balmy storm]

Exactly what I was thinking

[obtuse gyro]

guaranteed tauforged

[vast harbor]

12% chance at tauforged, take it or leave it

[obtuse gyro]

all that effort for a guaranteed tauforged

ngl DE should hire me for ideation

monthly sortie with 5 stages of sortie rewards each with the last having guaranteed tauforged

[balmy storm]

And it all comes with a bunch of lore in the form of dialogue that you’ll get sick of eventually

[obtuse gyro]

the final railjack stage is to push back Wally

[balmy storm]

Or will never get sick of cause one of the characters just goes wild and it’s funny

[balmy storm]

Literally push him, he got stuck in the void hole and we need to help him out by shooting him repeatedly

also all damage he takes is converted to 1 damage

[balmy ice]

has to have a billion hp

[balmy storm]

nah, 2 billion

[balmy ice]

4 railjacks all with fast firing guns could easily do 1000 dps

[balmy ice]

You’re right I set the bar too low, 1 quintillion

[balmy storm]

and he moves really fast

[vast harbor]

He continually regens at 500hp/sec

[balmy ice]

Aren’t we great game devs

What endgame would look like if players designed it

[steep delta]

lol

[round bison]

hmmm

[balmy storm]

👁️👁️

[timid tartan]

Hey, does anyone know how the Call of the Tempestarii quest works? I've completed all the prerequisites to start the quest but for some reason, I'm not getting an inbox message from Cephalon Sy telling me about the salvage opportunities. Are they on a timer or is it bugged?

I don't have any other messages beyond that point

When interacting with the codex, I'm asked to check my inbox so I think I might be stuck in a loop ha

[fleet veldt]

Try relogging.

[timid tartan]

Thanks, tried this also - I'm actually returning to continue the quest from last year ha

Figured it out, it was me being an idiot

[fringe plinth]

Smoll

[crimson citrus]

hey guys, anyone knows what that's supposed to be?

[graceful zodiac]

Just a bug

[supple dagger]

Or maybe not tbh. Some people(including me lol) are considering that thing to be intentional since DE probably would’ve patched that by now

And I’m pretty sure that thing has been around since the beginning of the Veilbreaker update sooo

[graceful zodiac]

Maybe. But it's also a harmless visual bug and so just isn't important enough to put work on

[vast harbor]

I noticed it the other day too

[velvet wing]

It’s definitely not supposed to be there seeing as it normally includes a prompt to interact with it for quests and could lead to confusion. Aesthetically I like it but I’ll understand when they inevitably fix it.

[zenith jacinth]

Some people think it's a duviri teaser since "lua isn't inside it". Kinda boring one if it is

[balmy storm]

It’s not really teasing anything though

[fleet veldt]

Y'never know.

[balmy storm]

Considering it’s not intractable and doesn’t look like anything it is presently not a teaser for anything
But that could change, but for now it’s nothing

[daring steeple]

It's from the prologues, I think it's a bug

[delicate pelican]

so uh... quick question, is ballas technicly a simp?

[wicked iron]

He's less a simp and more a manipulative boyfriend who does extreme gaslighting, and other things, to try to get the woman he claims to love to do what he wants.

[delicate pelican]

Makes sense

Was about to ask about how the lotus started existing and I just remembered

[desert lintel]

Ballas did nothing wrong

Just like Griffith

[late glacier]

Does eternalism make the operator or drifter come back to duviri every time they die?
Also does anyone know where/what duviri is yet

[obtuse gyro]

where: in the Void
what: find out this winter

[obtuse gyro]

the operator/drifter never die in gameplay

[balmy storm]

Also I don’t think eternalism can do that

Maybe the void but idk why it would

[late glacier]

they did, but I think eternal idm makes them come back since they can bring another version of the operator come back
however the man in the wall killed all of them in the new war so

[obtuse gyro]

no they actually dont die in gameplay

when operator/drifter hp drops to 2 transference out ends

[late glacier]

oh

[obtuse gyro]

you will never reach 0

[balmy storm]

Eternalism doesn’t do that

[late glacier]

then is eternalism related to duviri?

I’m confused about what eternalism can and can’t do

[vital creek]

eternalism on its own doesn't do anything

[balmy storm]

You’re confusing the concept of eternalism with the void

[late glacier]

oh

[balmy storm]

The void is what actually does stuff

[vital creek]

eternalism just means that multiverse theory is canon, you still need some way to interact with the alternate timeline/universe in order to make use of that fact

[obtuse gyro]

and the multiverse theory is canon because all other possibilities are just as real

however based on the current examples of void shenanigans it seems like we cant just use "eternalism and duh void" to pull a rabbit out of a cardboard hat

[orchid remnant]

what if it was a holdfast rabbit pulled from an incarnon hat

[obtuse gyro]

seems like the divergence in the timelines need to be close (but also because from a writing perspective its going to be a nightmare if you allow anything and everything because it "could be real")

[balmy storm]

I like to think what can happen through the void still has to be reasonably possible

[vital creek]

eternalism doesn't make the impossible possible

[orchid remnant]

or better yet, a void angel rabbit pulled from a voidshell hat

[balmy storm]

okay but a void angel rabbit could be cute

[obtuse gyro]

Options are:
1)You die
2)You dont die

and not

1. You die
2. You are your grandad's spaghetti

[balmy storm]

P much yeah

You’ll never get to something you wouldn’t have

[obtuse gyro]

unless youre ballas and wally amazon same day deliveries a version of revenant that someone else primed

[balmy storm]

Revenant has a prime cause he is factually the coolest warframe now

and I say that thinking he’s okay

[fringe plinth]

Welp there’s go the same pic I sent already and the speculation as well

And again might not be a bug. If it’s a bug it could take them fix within a week or 2 it is a simple code to hide that. Secondly that might lead us to the prologue of drifter as shown on duviri trailer.

[obtuse gyro]

and not the two swords in the dormizone?

A visual bug like that would be extremely low on the docket not to mention who knows what spaghetti is causing the bug, we cant really assume its an easy fix

[fringe plinth]

Yeh ik but Didn’t u see tnw? How did the lotus was at the operator room and how both of them suddenly appear? So that the Orb would be like the trailer shown and then some end part of the quest we put the sword at the dormizone and carry natah to where she at during nw

[desert lintel]

Eternalism is actual theory of time and the most probably one because of Einstein and his theories

[obtuse gyro]

you mean how the lotus ended up in the transference chair?

from praghasa to the chair?

its not uh, not wild to see us bring lotus from there to our ship

[fringe plinth]

Nope from the duviri to the chair

Natah got suck up by the void then it got into drifter dimension then the drifter gotten the hand of natah and gotten into the place where teshin give drifter the sword and place the sword at dormizone and carry natah back to operator world.

[cursive mesa]

im thinking if its a bug or not that itll be fixed in the echos of veilbreaker update
since thats supposed to come before duviri iirc

prolly a visual bug though considering theres a good few of those in the game right now
buut until its fixed/updated we just do not know™️

[cursive mesa]

as far as i understand, eternalism is just the theory that every decision and its possibilities are real until the decision is made

so for example, if youre debating on eating a sandwich or eggs, until you decide on eggs, both possibilities are equally real.
the void provides a medium so that both possibilities can be accessed, instead of just one

its less of a "anything is real" and more of a "any possibility stemming from an action is real, and can be accessed through a medium"

i forgor to comment
so ya duviri is related to eternalism in sort of an indirect way, because duviri acts on those possibilities etc

[obtuse gyro]

not just "until the decision is made" its just as real as the one that happens

[cursive mesa]

YEA right because of the drifter still being a very Real entity
its sort of a brain hurting concept overall sorrey

so i guess to a degree its more like a parallel universes theory than a multiversal theory in that way
because they keep existing outside of that, parallel to the one that you are experiencing ???
(more in the literal definition of parallel than anything else)

[cursive mesa]

question for you bau purely because you have a good grasp on the concept but do you think that eternalism applies to events like albrechts journals
where he both did and did not end up closing the portal to the void? (hence his fear that he was not the one who escaped?)

[obtuse gyro]

sounds like something for Android31 to answer

[obtuse gyro]

eternalism isnt applied here, he's not fearing that "oh theres a possibility that is just as real where that thing was what escaped"

what he fears is that he himself cannot tell which one escaped because the void messed up his brain in the encounter so bad he couldnt think straight

the obvious answer by the journal and the fingers is that albretch escaped not wally

[cursive mesa]

makes sense
ty for your input i will store it in my brain like a very cool curio /gen

[orchid remnant]

All Eternalism is is just a cool party trick

[late glacier]

can someone explain about Albrecth Entrati and what he did?

[cyan crest]

He studied the void before it was... Visitable
The orokin basically had him as a pariah because they said "it's a void, there's nothing there, no energy, nothing"
He said "muck everything I'm going in" and made a portal and went into it
He met the man in the wall mimicking him and calling him his childhood name, he was scared so much he accidentally blinded and muted himself
While running away, he ordered his daughter (Mother Entrati, the one on Deimos) to close the portal, which cut several of Wallman's fingers. The orokin then studied the fingers to make solar rails, Railjacks and basically all void technology including the zariman and that kind of stuff. But Albrecht was so scared that he didn't know if he was himself or Wallman who had escaped, so he stopped taking kuva altogether and allegedly died, the end.

Oh and Yonta has a dream where she asks Albrecht where he is, he says "everywhere" then rips himself in half

[fringe plinth]

Now I’m wondering how would marguilis, albercht family, ballas, natah and hunhow n erra would look like in the drifter world

[supple dagger]

Oooh okay so that's the finger in the zariman

[cyan crest]

Dead, dead, dead, probably never born, the same

[desert lintel]

Why Entrati family would be dead?

[cyan crest]

No tenno=sentients don't get defeated=everyone is dead probably after sun is eaten

[fringe plinth]

hmm dont think so in drifter dimension

[cyan crest]

Why wouldn't they be

No tenno means the sentients cannot be defeated, everyone is dead

[fringe plinth]

cus take a look at the amphitheater they are some what orokin people over there

so they might have a slight chance of alive

[cyan crest]

That's not the drifter dimension fam, that's duviri, that's in the void

It's not the same as put timeline nor does any of the other characters have a counter part in it aside from Twoshin, who also isn't probably native to Duviri

[supple dagger]

Honestly considering not getting primed sure footed because of how good/fun unairu is

I may just pick up primed fury

[simple python]

Just skip sure-footed and maybe think about fury. I usually just resort to regular Fury.

[balmy storm]

That’s also assuming Twoshin isn’t just our Teshin somehow

[tropic dock]

So i just got max rank with the Holdfasts, and i got a cutscene of a bunch of tenno script on my screen when i returned to my orbiter... anyone know anything about that?

[floral tiger]

An old easter egg teasing the Second Dream

[midnight lily]

the orokin text thing is an old easter egg from pre second dream iirc

[tropic dock]

got it. i tabbed back in after checking the wiki so i didnt have time to screenshot it

[nocturne kiln]

sighs

I want more drifter customization

I getthat we'll get to use warframe armor soon

But I'd really like other customizations too

[desert lintel]

It is such a shame that great looking armors like smelter and SP one are operator only

[flat shadow]

more drifter cosmetics are coming.

[fleet veldt]

DE is working on porting/upscaling Operator armour for Drifter use.

Would be nice if we could use a select number of primary/secondary/melee weapons on them though.

The primary/secondary weapons would both be put in the primary slot with various debuffs based on size/type, same goes for melees (i.e: bringing a Galatine slows you down in the same way bringing a sword three times your size in Dark Souls slows you down severely).

The 'goal' would be to give Drifters and Operators some combat capability (i.e: if you're bringing Umbra or are otherwise locked out of frame, like on the 10-0) and make a Dark Sector reference.

[nocturne kiln]

Oh, I know they're making other clothing prices thanks to red texts a week or so ago. I'm sure more would come out with duviri anyways since the drifter is so heavily featured.

Now, it's 5:30 am for me, and I think I'll go back to sleep

[balmy storm]

I hope they downscale the drifter outfit to operator cause tiny drifter is good

[supple dagger]

Adult (drifter) dax i can wait...

[fleet veldt]

Going to be a minor disappointment when we're unable to use a nikana and a primary/sidearm with our Drifter whenever they get their Dax suit.

[dry magnet]

it would be cool to have new outfits in that warrior vibe also i think we will have 1 hand nikana that is bigger from 2 nikanas that we seen

Dax soldier drop that nikana and it look like we can pick it up

when we kill him

also every open world have that rank from 1 to 5 and in paradox map will be more in color if we got to that point for rank 5...some how it make sense to change it like that when we proggress

[zenith jacinth]

So far we've only seen drifter pick it up

And duviri is gonna be similar to roguelikes iirc, which are sort of infinitely looping games

[balmy storm]

I love roguelikes, I can’t wait for Duviri

[zenith jacinth]

Same, I really like playing dark souls and hollow knight

[balmy storm]

Do you mention them cause they’re hard or?
Cause last I checked those aren’t roguelikes

[zenith jacinth]

Hey, roguelikes are about doing the same thing over and over again until you succeed

Last time I checked dark souls and hollow knight are the same

[balmy storm]

Roguelikes have variation in every attempt, those games are just doing the actual same thing over and over again

Just make Archon Hunts 100x harder and there’s your dark souls and hollow knight

[zenith jacinth]

Nah, those two also have variation between the attempts.
||You die to earlier enemies because you get impatient||

[graceful zodiac]

We know they aren't, outside of Duviri at least. DE does not want to overlap like that

[zenith jacinth]

I just want dual nikanas

[balmy ice]

From my understanding duvuri probably has a large intro

then a middle story

then we show up as Operator + Drifter for revenge

[balmy storm]

I can’t wait for the part in Duviri where we reattach mom’s hand

[mental mural]

Pretty sure roguelikes are along the lines of if you die, you have to restart completely from ground zero with maybe a few extra perks you got from how much progress you made- no respawn points or checkpoint system besides that

[balmy storm]

Meanwhile, Duviri has checkpoints

[edgy sierra]

soulsbourne games aren't rougelike. ring of pain, across the obelisk, against the storm, ftl, etc are all roguelikes

[frail nymph]

Yeah Duviri's more a roguelite

[zenith jacinth]

2 people didn't get my joke

[brave osprey]

Good examples of Roguelikes are Soul Knight and Dead Cells

[neat jasper]

OKAY GUYS!

hear me out

which is hotter, natah, lotus or morgulis

asking for a friend

[cyan crest]

I'm just gonna say hehe you said morgulis

[proper harness]

the fourth form of space mom, morbius

[steady gate]

not an option but Tyl Regor

[balmy storm]

Tyl Regor Lotus skin when

[fleet veldt]

At this rate you're asking for a Lich Queen Lotus skin which really is just her decked out in Lancer gear with Kuva colours and vampire teeth.

[random pulsar]

Natah clearly

[frozen rune]

Is it just me or is Teshin a little less ghostly on Europa SP?

[frozen rune]

Same on Saturn, wide spread bug I just noticed?

[crimson river]

That would explain why her hand has powers in duviri she is just using impenetrable morb fields to blow up the enemies

[floral tiger]

Well there was a special skin for her that appeared during Halloween missions. Outfit was black/dark and she had vampire teeth. Hm… buyable halloween skin for Lotus?

[fleet veldt]

That'd be nice besides her Eidolon form or her Xaku Deluxe.

[wicked iron]

Huh... Those rings glowing around his neck. That's new.

[fleet veldt]

They've been around since... Sacrifice? New War? Maybe as far back as War Within?

[wicked iron]

Ah, I see lol

[zenith jacinth]

They from the cape I think

[wicked iron]

I was thinking they might be from the Dax Syandana, but I'm not on WF right now to check lol

[zenith jacinth]

Do you perhaps have creator mode on?

[frozen rune]

Hmm possible, which would make sense to avoid spoilers

Hmm looks off

[supple dagger]

Marg, duh

[fleet veldt]

Natah, because of her actual Sentient shell allowing her to carry the Drifter better - or lock them in a motherly embrace if she felt like it.

[balmy storm]

[desert lintel]

Natah

[spark zinc]

What do I do in zariman segment of new war?

[fleet veldt]

You follow someone.

[spark zinc]

Who?

Theres no one

And everywhere is blocked

[fleet veldt]

You should turn up the volume. There should be humming you ought to be following.
If not, explore.

[spark zinc]

How do I follow humming?

And ive explored and checked map

Everywhere is blocked

[fleet veldt]

You're not where you should be. Retrace steps. Keep looking.

[cyan crest]

Go into the classroom and look for a lantern

[spark zinc]

So in the classrooms

[fleet veldt]

Check there first, yes.

[spark zinc]

Found it

[spark zinc]

Ty

[cyan crest]

No probs

[somber tulip]

I heard a new frame was coming?

[desert lintel]

Wolf one

[somber tulip]

Any name for it?

[desert lintel]

Community will name it, if the conquera goal is reached

Probably just wolf in some old language or wolf character from mythology

[zenith jacinth]

At least one person is gonna suggest sif

[somber tulip]

Where’s the name ideas at?

[fleet veldt]

Design Council are apparently working on the initial name suggestions, everyone else gets to vote on the selection available after the initial process of elimination.

[river anchor]

Anyone else seen the big dead fish on the shore of POE after you complete the New War?

[wild copper]

that's been there

since before the new war

[mighty iris]

r.i.p mag i'll always remember you as my first warframe and still my favorite warframe, at last we repel

[balmy badger]

You did get Mag Prime before doing that right?

[frozen rune]

Probably why she started the sacrifice

[balmy storm]

Is there a picture of Lavos’ undamaged helmet by chance?

[frozen rune]

Not to my knowledge

[pine fossil]

Fenrir is a giant wolf from norse myths but I don't think it will fit to a female frame

[desert lintel]

Well, Fenrir is not the only wolf from mythology even if the most well known, there are also she-wolfs like Lupa and Asena

[pine fossil]

I know but Fenrir is the first thing that comes into my mind when people say wolf 😅

Now that you say it, Lupa and Asena might work

[obtuse gyro]

Lupa should be more important since isnt that where lupine/the wolf clade name thing comes from

[zenith jacinth]

Take picture of helmet from top
Mirror the left side
Done

[austere cypress]

When zairman free roam available?

[obtuse gyro]

Never, wasnt designed as such

[austere cypress]

Then, what's new upcoming updates?

[zenith jacinth]

Duviri

[obtuse gyro]

The duviri paradox takes place in duviri, not inside the zariman

[velvet bloom]

i didnt want to ask this in the other chat, but does missing any of the optional objectives in the new war affect my result/ending in anyway?

[austere cypress]

Can't wait to have my horse to use my transportation other than k-drive.

[zenith jacinth]

Nope

[velvet bloom]

good to know thanks, i missed a prisoner and didnt want to restart the whole level lol

[austere cypress]

What if my operator unequipped all wearings?🤔

[bronze temple]

Then operator can be supervisor

[random pulsar]

Nothing would happen

[austere cypress]

Fortunately!

[austere cypress]

Could be worse than my future girlfriend!

I actually unequipped her clothes and still wearing clothes... I wonder how many clothes she wears...

[bronze temple]

2

[austere cypress]

Understandable! Those are her underwears...

[desert lintel]

Uhhh

Why would you do that?

[plucky mural]

Thoughts on wolf warframe

[zenith jacinth]

I refuse to say anything about it until it's in the game

[scarlet basalt]

Just noticed, but Reb has done 3 tone for each choice ?
Like my Natah sound very different than Margulis

[graceful zodiac]

Yes, each skin has a different voice effect

[scarlet basalt]

that's so coool

[plucky mural]

What about just look wise

[zenith jacinth]

Statement still applies there

[plucky mural]

Ah ok

I'll respect that

[zenith jacinth]

I don't have any opinion until I can have a true final opinion

[floral tiger]

What I can say for the wolf frame is that it surely doesn’t look to be what people were expecting it to be. Other than that there really isn’t much to say given that we haven’t seen it in action or played it.

[balmy storm]

I hope we’ll see a model by the next devstream

Depends on how much they’re working on it

[plucky mural]

I wonder what their abilities would end up being

[fleet veldt]

Expecting something of a kitbash of Valkyr, Khora, Garuda, power-wise.

[scarlet basalt]

that is one way to design a wolf frame who is very very cool, because they didn't want to make a fur frame it's so good that they still choose the metalic/meat design

[digital lake]

I'd expect the wolf to have some sort of major teamwork benefits, like, the wolfpack yknow?

in fact summoning the pack as an ability would be kinda neat

[edgy sierra]

like how loki works? or a wukong/titania situation?

[digital lake]

I was thinking more like vaubans nervos or calibans sentient homies where they gang up on or partially disable enemies

yoooo wait holup, have you seen Bleach? theres an Espada in that with a power thatd be a rly good inspiration for it

[edgy sierra]

which one?

[digital lake]

Coyote Starrk. his exploding Cero wolves

[steep delta]

when are we going to get the ability to use Warframe Armor on Operator/Drifter? anyone know?

i want to go full Apex Protovyre

[real niche]

We don't

[floral tiger]

We do, Echoes of Veilbreaker

[daring steeple]

We don't... yet.

[dreamy tartan]

We don't have an actual date as far as I'm aware tho.

Unless they said it on last Prime Time, I didn't watch I was v busy.

[floral tiger]

No known date sadly

[stiff cedar]

I don't know if this is the place to ask,but is there any info on when/if they are planning on going back to finishing Railjack content? There's still a lot of interesting things they showed and spoke about that haven't really gotten any updates as far as I've seen.

[obtuse gyro]

Like?

[stiff cedar]

Infested Railjack missions,for one.

[obtuse gyro]

They showed that?

[rain otter]

No

[scarlet basalt]

Infested railjack with planetoids or things like that ?
THey spoke about that but i think that we will have to wait.
Railjack isn't at all finished i think ?

But Deimos could have been the planetoids that they've shown tbh.
There's also Phorid rework who is... Where is it ?

[stiff cedar]

They showed concept art of infested proxima,but not much more than that was revealed about infested missions in Railjack.

[crimson river]

They showed concept art of a lot of things but usually thats where things stay

We saw the duviri guys litteral years before anything truly became of it

So i would hold out on things they show as concept art being released fast

Hell they have fully modeled and rigged venkra en sprag and those still havent been added

[scarlet basalt]

Wait not in Kahl's mission

[rain otter]

They ate literally in the next update

[scarlet basalt]

i was thinking that Infested doesn't have a lot of lore, which is why they try to do things through :
Styanax,Arlo,Deimos,Prelate zealoid and more things.
They're pretty much a "secondary" factions but will one day prove to be very dangerous. They've shown how powerful they could get...By having a literal "sun and moon" that shoot laser or nuke to each other

[rain otter]

Echoes of Veil Breaker*

[rain otter]

They could do a Deadlock Style update for Infested and add them lore.

[edgy sierra]

and add infested liches?

[rain otter]

That would probably be later

It took like a year for Coprus RJ and liches.

[scarlet basalt]

They could , but how ? Through Planetoids that was said years before i think ?
Tbh Deimos is really tame i just noticed... Like we have lore about the Orokin and the void but... The infested didn't say much ?
Even tho we know that they can talk ?
There's also a friend that said that maybe Deimos is just a giant infested so it literally can't notice us, like bacteria on a human

[rain otter]

I could say the Same about Fortuna.

We don't learn about Coprus at all just Solaris Lore.

[scarlet basalt]

True,
It's only a bit about nef Anyo but they could have made more about him, like data terminals that are hidden through the maps.
This could also explain more on how vicious Corpus are with debt and money

I kinda want to see more Nightwatch enemies in the future.
But they could make more twist about it, like being a "stealthy" enemies that can use camouflage or blind the tenno ?
But in a way this could make a copy of the hyena packs...

[fleet veldt]

The Kuva Trokkarian was a step in the right direction if you want Grineer/Corpus forces capable of shutting down a Warframe, maybe with post-War lore they could explain how they used similar innovations to disable Archons, take their shards to empower a new generation of Nemeses?

Like, custom Corpus Proxies tailor-built by the Sisters of Parvos to kill us that reuse Jackal finisher anims for defeating them, or Liches using a new array of weapons.

[scarlet basalt]

I love this enemies.
IT DISRUPT THE GAMEPLAY
Which is really the things that the player need ! because with how overpowered we are with our frames, what if there was an enemy that need to have a really high priority,plus have high amount of HP
In theory you will have to focus on him until he is dead and it's great

Enemies are meant to disrupt the gameplay.
THis would be weird if they don't go in this direction

[desert lintel]

I wish they would do something with queen Worm
She collect kuva and do something with zariman for years

[fleet veldt]

I rather prefer a mix of an AOE zones you can destroy, single-use removable effects, and Overguard.

[scarlet basalt]

She ain't reviving her sister at this rate lol ,like it's been years, is she making her sister a raid boss or what 😭 ???

[fleet veldt]

Orokin are notoriously hard to kill, and when they can be killed and are dead, are notoriously hard to revive.

[scarlet basalt]

true, nihil is somehow alive.
And Tuvul is unknown i think ? But it may be possible that he is still alive with how resilient those things can be...Are they even human ?

[desert lintel]

Tuvul was not on Zariman, right?

[fleet veldt]

Tuvul was not on the 10-0. He did keep in contact until the ship made it's maiden voyage (and got stuck).

[desert lintel]

Btw, how much of Seven have known names?

[scarlet basalt]

Ballas,Tuvul and Nihil i think ?

[fleet veldt]

Ballas. Nihil. Tuvul. I'm sure there's more in the Codex and other places though, but whether they're of the Honoured Seven or not is undetermined.

[obtuse gyro]

The orokin? Human in origin but beyond human in physiology

[fleet veldt]

Like with Cephalons, Warframes, Infested, and many of the grown buildings.

[scarlet basalt]

Funny enough, Orokin seems to be like greek statues.
But greek statues aren't supposed to be grey ish and were colored.

I don't think it's a design flaw but an irony ?

[fleet veldt]

I feel once upon a time the Orokin may've been more colourful, friendly, and genuine people. The Kuva must've dulled them in more than one way since.

[scarlet basalt]

I think it could be a "philosophical" way to interpret it in a way :
"As time passed and goes on, taking kuva dulled their minds and made them evil, degrading their own color and made them grey, Like a pale face"

[fleet veldt]

Yes. That and how they carried out Continuity had also 'convinced' them that having to make the first strike, rather than simply negotiate, was the only sensible option in all things.

Such a stance they developed that they became oblivious to the simple concept of kindness as the Tenno knew it.

Alas, they fell; hubris of a black star.

[scarlet basalt]

that's a really nice way to interpret it tbh

but i still have 2 million of dead body on my warframe's hand so 😭 i don't think we're that kind

[fleet veldt]

We're unkind because the Orokin taught us to be that way to their neighbours, who thus only remember us as the weapons we were molded to be.

[scarlet basalt]

Ah yes the common childhood...
Being a warmachine

[desert lintel]

We ever heard of blue kuva outside of naberus tale?

[fleet veldt]

Not yet.

[edgy sierra]

i dont think Nihil is the same rank as the others

[brave osprey]

Nope

[brave osprey]

He was one then got retrograded

[cyan crest]

He's definately an important person if he was in a desition making position in the Gara prime trailer

I'd say he is one of the Seven

[edgy sierra]

Isnt there also the executor Avantus, from one of the simaris entries?

[cyan crest]

We don't know if Avantus is part or not of the Seven

[brave osprey]

Nihil was made into executioner after the Gara boogaloo

[cyan crest]

There's also Karish or however it was spelled who was an executor with 7 stomachs

[cyan crest]

Was he?

Is there like anything saying that?

[edgy sierra]

wasnt there also (again) an executor in Ivara's leverian as well?

[brave osprey]

According to the timeline between the Gara Prime lore and the Glassmaker it looks like that

[cyan crest]

If we go with the seven representing the 7 deadly sins we could put Karish in it I think? Then Nihil in pride, Ballas in lust and maybe Tuvul in wrath idk

I don't think he ever stopped being part of the Seven, just that he was the one to actually get his hands dirty when they required a cephalon

Except for Ballas that one time

[edgy sierra]

Id put Ballas as envy, cause he was envious of our relatioship with Margulis

[cyan crest]

I'd put him in lust exactly because of his relationship with Margulis and how he treated Natah

Me wife no love me, me will make new wife from robot girl and make the exact same mistakes
Me is very intelligent

That's Tuvul

[edgy sierra]

I realized my mistake oops

but Tuvul as greed then

[cyan crest]

He's also very rageful in his last messages

And to be fair all of them are pride lmao

[edgy sierra]

although...., there are the seven orokin principles (the drifts) and we could try to align them with those (or opposites of them)

[zenith jacinth]

Considering his fight... yeah, definitely is

[neat jasper]

"My name is Skyler white yo" but really why does my adult operator look so ugly 💀

[scarlet basalt]

Saul goodman looking operator

[dry magnet]

I cant waith to see Duviri Paradox Chat in here like what we have for Veilbreaker 🙂 Every upcoming game is just dont have that something that i want in video games that that cool amazing have... 🙂

[zenith jacinth]

Male drifter has a 99% chance to be either ugly or tennobama

[zenith jacinth]

What

The last few words confuse me

[dry magnet]

not so many new games have that cool things that i look in the video games like what we seen in duviri world

knowing what is warframe i think that update would be even better to play

i love that seting and mechanic also the world

[obtuse gyro]

Dude means he really really like what warframe has

[zenith jacinth]

Ah

[dry magnet]

yea that 😄

[zenith jacinth]

I'm more excited for soulframe ngl

[dry magnet]

we all are, but with paradox we are just 1 step close to that 😄

also duviri have sci fi vibe that we dont have that much in games combined with swords and power, but in soulframe we have so many similar games so theres that

[zenith jacinth]

I like fantasy more than sci-fi

Warframe is good, but soulframe might be better

[ruby eagle]

Sci fi fantasy

[edgy sierra]

why not both at once? its a idea i have for a story

[zenith jacinth]

That is... difficult to do

[ruby eagle]

40k?

[sharp nexus]

Stupid question, but would you guys think both universe will be somehow linked, or just contain small references to one another?

[ruby eagle]

Warframe is kinda sci fi fantasy as well IMO

[graceful zodiac]

That's literally what Warframe is already

[zenith jacinth]

Only references

[cyan crest]

Small references at most

[sharp nexus]

I would agree, and that’s probably for the better, just wanted other opinions on it :)

[graceful zodiac]

Steve already said straight up they won't be directly connected

[obtuse gyro]

Thats destiny's territory

[fleet veldt]

It is also Warframe's, considering the Void - albeit almost everything was created by humans, altered by humans, or is otherwise human-related in origin exempting the Void and The Man in The Wall.

[brave osprey]

Duviri gives me a space Far-West feeling

[desert lintel]

Maybe not linked per se but something like what wh fantasy is to wh 40k?

[dry magnet]

Yea me 2 but also combined with samurai vibe 😏👌

[stark wyvern]

life of stalker quest?

a quest of why he is so enraged

maybe a quest for curing stalker?

making him realize

or maybe a whole flashback to the OLD war, what we did

[zenith jacinth]

Stalker has every right to hate us

We literally killed the people he was protecting

[stark wyvern]

we need an old war quest, maybe wally making is remember everything

[river pawn]

how are lotus natah margulis the same people d.i.d??

[desert lintel]

Natah is original
Margulis is personality that Natah got to get tenno on her side
Lotus is merge of these two

[zenith jacinth]

Marge was the original person, natah was supposed to mimic her

End result: lotus

[rain otter]

She is literally a Mimic "Queen"

Like we see Sentient Mimics that can turn into any object.

[mighty sky]

doing the new war and am very stuck on what to do here, can anyone help

[rain otter]

Shoot it with your op?

Or Drifter*

[mighty sky]

ah didnt think of that, tyvm

[glad oriole]

Duviri when

Any ideas?

[desert lintel]

Winter

[deft void]

Um, idk where to post this but any idea where to find those Zeriman things for the teacher cephalon? I've looked for them.

Also, Void Angels can just reach through spacetime and rip you out of your frames huh?

[ruby eagle]

Those zariman thingy can be identified by a specific musical cue

Kinda similar to how caches emit a unique sound in close proximity

[deft void]

Do I need one of those kids to find it?

[desert lintel]

It helps

[thick jolt]

They have a chiming noise
Show up in loot radar
And are usuaally within 1 to 2 rooms distance from the melica console
Thats how i usually find them

[deft void]

Ty ^^

[zenith jacinth]

No, they impale it with void spikes

Jumping out is a reasonable reaction tbh

[rain otter]

The kids behave jsut like golden Instinct

If you wanna use that.

[zenith jacinth]

Eh, one will usually memorize the possible locations at some point

[edgy sierra]

the dark thing? its a cleaning drone
what its flying above? a garden bed

[frail nymph]

Loot radar + breaking all the things that aren't the accolade.

Specific musical cue when close by.

Golden instinct/parallax orokin eye

[frail nymph]

They've even reached through the security footage cameras and out from screens in the Zarinan

[edgy sierra]

no, its just an aesthetic feature

[thick jolt]

Its a drone from fhe zariman itself
It takes care of the plants

You can get a skin like it for your sentinels from hombask

[supple dagger]

Has no one legit bought the VEER-DE skin then? Cause i have for the sentienls

[mental mural]

As soon as I have enough standing I'm buying it and using it on everything- it's adorable

[supple dagger]

Atleast someone agrees

[balmy storm]

I have the arms

That’s all i wanted tbh

[supple dagger]

Lol

[high otter]

I've bought the vista room yesterday
It's pretty cool ❤️❤️

[zenith jacinth]

Isn't it verd-ie?

[fleet veldt]

It is.

[wind wharf]

He doesn't know what's about to happen😈😈😈

[fleet veldt]

Or what'll happen next.

[past kiln]

Deadshin gets owned

[fleet veldt]

Teshin evolves into Medivh (if you know your Warcraft), or at least a character archetype like him.

[mental mural]

Well I mean he unlocks Teshin as a playable character for a few minutes, at least

[zenith jacinth]

And then teshin gets a new skin

[balmy storm]

Old teshin

[smoky beacon]

Teshin prime

[supple dagger]

Umbra Teshin

[smoky beacon]

Dex Teshin

[wild wind]

Teshin Immortal Skin

[supple dagger]

Teshin Graxx skin

[zenith jacinth]

I meant ghosteshin

[random pulsar]

Impact teshin

[orchid remnant]

so just Teshin Graxx?

[desert lintel]

Teshin Daxx

[orchid remnant]

Corpus version: Teshin Tax

[smoky beacon]

Lmao

[supple dagger]

Grineer version: Brother Teshin

[vital robin]

2 down last to go

[supple dagger]

Answer
Yes

[deft void]

Can I show spoiler frame in Zariman without being hated on or should I use Operator for now on

[wicked iron]

You mean Drifter, Leon? Since the Zariman is locked behind The New War, I don't see why it would be a problem. 😮

[deft void]

Cool

Anyway I can make the Drifter's pistol as powerful as the Operator's amp?

[mental mural]

Pretty much the only difference between Drifter and Operator is cosmetics- you can use the same Operator amp for your Drifter^

[deft void]

o_o sweet

[zenith jacinth]

The pistol is between mote and modular amps in damage

Has more style than both though

[bright crag]

need pistol skin for arbitrary modular amp 😛

[zenith jacinth]

Technically exists

[slow sinew]

Drifter’s scirocco skin exists for amps.

And all amps carried by Drifter look like the scirocco, skin or not (according to Wiki)

[bright crag]

what, really?

i honestly... i level amps so slowly i haven't finished leveling the scirocco

[balmy badger]

Just go to ESO and hope you get a nuke frame in your squad

Sirocco is already gilded, so you get MR for ranking it.

[sly plinth]

If you pilot your railjack as the operator/drifter any affinity you get from destroying ships goes to your amp

[nocturne kiln]

You could also level up all the tenno schools till you have the abilities to survive outside a warframe regularly

[abstract vault]

thank you for this info

[meager linden]

When someone tells you that Bimbo is good now and wukong is really trash since he lost invulnerability on 3rd ability

[rain otter]

What he didn't lose that?

[meager linden]

He got reworked, so everyone considered him really op, now he’s got his abilities revamped, I can’t really tell if he’s different since I hadn’t played him before revamp (and after as well)

[rain otter]

Lul his 1 is just worse now

He's still really good.

[supple dagger]

;-;

[meager linden]

You can use it as a sample for any other meme (I just find this expression to be really funny (I actually got a pain in the heart and lowered blood pressure, so yeah))

[real niche]

Bimbo's always been good, he's just annoying.

[thick jolt]

He probably means the actual wukong rework where he got the wuclone and lost his invincibility mode

[smoky beacon]

But even without that he’s so useful. The clone is absolutely amazing

[balmy storm]

The clone is good with the right weapon

[smoky beacon]

Tbh sometimes I feel like the clone is better than me lol

[balmy storm]

I mean. It’s an AI that just has to aim and shoot, you have human error

that is, if you’re human

[smoky beacon]

Of course I am not human I’m a Tenno lol

[deft void]

Got up to halfway up to rank 2 on the Holdfasts. Woo.

[balmy storm]

[zenith jacinth]

Tenno are human too

[frozen rune]

Reject humanity, embrace tenno

[obtuse gyro]

in the words of wally: "You can't take me away from me"

[wind wharf]

are we ever gonna get a pazuul fight

[balmy ice]

Just put phahd scaffold on whatever amp it is and you’re good to go

[zenith jacinth]

That's kinda hard to do on sirocco

[deft void]

THIS.

[balmy storm]

If we are it’ll most likely be after Duviri

[meager linden]

Anyone can advise a dope Kuva weapon? I want to start getting those tomorrow. Also will be great if you will say the locations to farm those

[cyan crest]

Go to Cassini on Saturn to spawn a lich, use a Nidus or a similar frame to make it toxin

After that I'd suggest to go for a brahma

[meager linden]

I already got Earth Lich. Also Nidus is from what quest exactly?

[cyan crest]

Then you have to kill that one to get another lich, see what weapon they got

Nidus is from Glast's gambit, idk which other frames make toxin liches

[floral tiger]

Saryn and Atlas come to mind, don’t remember who else

[naive warren]

Khora, Ivara, Nekros and Oberon come to my mind

[smoky beacon]

When did he say that

[obtuse gyro]

Chains of Harrow

[smoky beacon]

Ah

I was distracted while playing that one so it makes sense I don’t remember

[wild wind]

Late but does Atlas make Toxin or Impact?

[floral tiger]

Toxin which is weird

[wild wind]

Aight. I can see the reasoning, just like Final Fantasy poison is the earth element equivalent.

[trim raft]

Mhmm

[trim raft]

Atlas, Ivara, Khora, Nekros, Nidus,
Oberon, Saryn

[neon hemlock]

Is the kuva lich hunter collection worth it

[floral tiger]

You get a few of each reqium mods, color palettes and kuva armor pieces if I remember right. If you are interested in all of it then yeah.

[random pulsar]

only the armor pieces are worth it lich mods are easy to get

[zenith jacinth]

I thought you said kuva kek for a second

[wind wharf]

is that the man in the wall?

[languid torrent]

That said, the Zarr can be decent enough with an ammo mutator on it, provided you pack a secondary that either doesn't need ammo or can make the most of it's own supply.

[cosmic ermine]

feel a bit scammed lol, the contour only visible when highlighted

[zenith jacinth]

Albrecht entrati

[zenith jacinth]

You scammed yourself tbh, it's obvious in the preview

[cosmic ermine]

[steady gate]

That looks like another of the enhanced graphics engine exclusive texture, zariman and zariman decorations are full of them

[fleet veldt]

DE's probably trying to migrate to it, which is why more and more things are using it so much.

[cyan crest]

They... They meant the market article called kuva lich collection

[meager linden]

Why there’s a Kuva Lich exchange room? How does it work?

[cyan crest]

You exchange converted liches so the other person gets the ephemera and the weapon and you get plat

Not sure why you pinged me tho, the collection I was talking about is in the market

[floral tiger]

That reminds me, should try trading to buy some liches with unique masks that I don’t have yet as I either get with duplicates or none.

[desert lintel]

Masks?
You don't get anything like that

Only weapons and ephemeras

[floral tiger]

Was talking of liches with masks on them.

Like this for example

[desert lintel]

They look cool and that's all

[zenith jacinth]

One reason to collect them

[balmy storm]

At least that’s not as bad as the whole zariman logo not showing up on some stuff

[rain otter]

That Is Albretch

The first person to Void Travel.

And Mothers Father.

[wind wharf]

Oh cool

[rain otter]

Also the first person to see the man in the wall.

@wind wharf you can watch Albtechs Logs in the Like Diemos Room where you buy Necramechs from loid their are like all the Requiem symbols behind him and you can watch all the logs you do need to be max in both factions to see all of them though

Or you can just watch this Video.

https://youtu.be/Es8uOniZzZI

[wind wharf]

Thanks

[past kiln]

Also he got so scared crapless at the fact that he didn’t know if he truly escaped he didn’t continuity after his incident

[wild wind]

So we're all voting for Voruna for the wolf, right?

[fleet veldt]

I voted Lycath, as her outline is lycan-style, but was thinking of one of the D-letters because there is no D[name] frame yet.

[wicked iron]

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1328651-vote-on-the-name-for-the-wolf-inspired-warframe/

[wild wind]

Voruna's so good I could hear Reb saying the name in her Lotus voice

Wait how do people not know this is a female Warframe. Oh dear.

[fleet veldt]

Even though she-... Some people need visual aids.

[zenith jacinth]

It won't even let me vote

[balmy storm]

You need to be logged in

I had that problem too lol

[zenith jacinth]

I am

[balmy storm]

Oh idk then

[zenith jacinth]

Says that I don't have permission to vote

[balmy storm]

Might have to relog then

I had to

[meager linden]

MR9 test is kinda garbage, but still is a cool experience. And by Garbage I mean that Stealth attack doesn't prompt when it feels good. Enemies see you under cloak of Skiajati (or however this sword is called). Anyhow, stealth is bad in this game.

[zenith jacinth]

First person to get skiajati's name right without having it memorized

[balmy storm]

Ulfra would be better if it was Wulfra

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah nah, it just won't let me vote ig

I'm not cool enough

[balmy storm]

Dang

[meager linden]

Lol, it is really called that way?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[neon hemlock]

How to go through the thing with Cogg Stul’tan?

Cus I’m clueless

[fleet veldt]

Parazon? You need to finish their Thralls to get Murmurs which show you what Requiem Mod you need, but not necessarily the 'order'. Personally if I want to speed it, I use an Oull in the last slot meaning I only need to solve two Murmurs at the absolute minimum.

[graceful zodiac]

Hmm. Yeah no, best name is Lycath

[orchid remnant]

Cogg Stul'tan is a pretty neat name

[fleet veldt]

'Cool Sultan' of khe Grineer.

[meager linden]

Also I've got a big plot hole about Ballas being the leader of Narmer. In the Chimera Prologue he acted against the Sentients, in Erra he was Erras Dog, but in the end he still ends up as a Narmer leader. For me it makes 0 sense. It would've been more powerful move if Erra would've been a leader of Narmer (and he is shown as more leadership capable character who at least done something on set), since he is a Brother of Natah and, therefore, has more strings to pull. But ig it's just poor writing

[steady gate]

he was acting so we (and Natah) would think he was unwilling in his partnership with Erra. The moment she figured out who he was, the mask came off and Ballas stopped ruling from the background

As for Erra…we honestly don’t know if it’s the same Erra that ‘died’ on Lua. This one has eyes and a heart, which the old one didn’t.

[meager linden]

Maybe I watched "The Maker" blindfolded or wasn't really paying attention to the things that actually happen

[graceful zodiac]

It's not the most clear or best story, but it's there

[meager linden]

I personally don't really know how old Erra looked like. I guess, none but DE knows if he's the one.

[graceful zodiac]

By all given events, Erra is the same one throughout

[meager linden]

The quest is still dope. As a side note, I really hate that if you started New War (even a Replay), you have to finish it. You can't just cancel the quest and go on with your grind. Which is kinda sad for me since I want to get some prime junk and stuff.

Also I wonder how can you create a mandachord songs
Nevermind, I need Octavia first to make it KEKW

[steady gate]

It would be an absolute nightmare if you COULD stop partially through; Cetus and Fortuna would be entirely inaccessible, along with PoE and Orb Vallis because you couldn’t just undo the damage and the folks would still be veiled. The game already has some problems with remembering where you are in quests, and such a massive quest would bring more.

[wild wind]

So, here's the thing Ballas is clever. He got got by Natah, and thought he was going to be tortured until she killed him. Then Erra showed up and Ballas realized that he had a sucker. Natah was unstable, so all Ballas had to do was offer good advice until he won enough trust to get Erra to backstab Natah.

Then he backstabbed the Tenno and won the war, and Erra was so thrilled he didn't realize that Ballas was no longer his partner but his master.

[mortal trellis]

I remember trying to help some guy who was stuck on amar, thought I could exit whenever when I replayed

Turns out he beat amar after a bit while I was fighting with a plinx as veko

[wild wind]

He didn't go into The Sacrifice planning to be maimed or put through chimerafication, but he bided his time and played his cards right to win the whole game.

[past kiln]

Erra only gets his eyes in the new war

in erra/maker he doesn't have them

[frozen rune]

The narmar jewels with the swirl are likely a means of pacification...why he put them in eye sockets I don't know. Might just be a tease from the designers since it looked like they fit there.

[steep delta]

idk

who knows

[pure saddle]

bro chains of harrow beginning is so creepy lmao

i hear something

[steep delta]

Rap tap tap

[nocturne kiln]

Rap...
Tap...
Tap...

[desert lintel]

Zvoruna is hella cool

[meager linden]

Rap. Tap. Tap

[zenith jacinth]

Say hello to your new best friend

[tepid dagger]

God I was just remembering how amazing the sound design in Chains of Harrow is

Absolutely wear headphones.

Also, I wish we could rollback the hubs to pre-War.

Like, yeah, it doesn't make the most sense but

~Eternalism~

[edgy sierra]

sound design is amazing all up

the music bops and is open to a lot of interpretation

[tepid dagger]

I mean, absolutely. But when you're playing through Chains of Harrow and his voice ||goes from being a distant whisper to moving right into your head||?

[obtuse gyro]

No need to interpret that wally is a funky wall man

[edgy sierra]

(i have a 5 minute breakdown of Suneater in the general chat)

[tepid dagger]

Absolute. Game-changer.

[obtuse gyro]

Took me out that one

[tepid dagger]

It's so effective like holy crap.

[obtuse gyro]

I was wondering whats wrong with my screen and then having the rap tap tap right in my ear when the screen cuts to black leaving only my reflection in the monitor

[edgy sierra]

rap....
tap.......
TAP......

[steep delta]

The man in the wall

[tepid dagger]

It feels like he was written as an autism parallel, right?

[steep delta]

Probably

[tepid dagger]

He has trouble distinguishing emotions, he needs his stim, he gets overwhelmed easily...

[edgy sierra]

he is, he has been confirmed to be

[tepid dagger]

Ahhhh, I figured as much.

[steep delta]

Confirmed?

[tepid dagger]

I'm on the spectrum as well, and boy, is it ever a spectrum.

[edgy sierra]

and he's a good parallel, which I take no offence to

[tepid dagger]

Yeah, he's actually really well-done, imo.

[obtuse gyro]

Confirmed yes

[obtuse gyro]

An unsung hero too

[steep delta]

When was the Rap tap tap guy confirmed btw?

Devstream?

[edgy sierra]

tweet by a DE member a while back

[steep delta]

Oh

[obtuse gyro]

That long alone against the same entity that drove so many others mad at a mere touch

[tepid dagger]

Is the man in the wall the big Vitruvian statue?

[obtuse gyro]

Twas both reb and steve that confirmed it separately

[steep delta]

Probably?

[obtuse gyro]

According to the dev stream thats not his true form

[tepid dagger]

I assumed not :P

[obtuse gyro]

He made it out of the debrie to look like that

[steep delta]

I guessed as much

[tepid dagger]

Diversity win 🥰 This autistic child held back a destructive creature of pure madness for years on end. (affectionate)

[steep delta]

Yes

Indeed

[tepid dagger]

Do we know who "Hey Kiddo" operator is? The patch notes referred to them as just "Hey Kiddo" operator.

[obtuse gyro]

Thats Wally

Who is mimicking us as he did to albretch

[tepid dagger]

Wally in Concrete.

Wow, that doesn't really work as a Wallace and Gromit as well as I hoped.

[edgy sierra]

he did it to save the people who shunned him

pretty cool move by Rell

[tepid dagger]

Yeah, good point as well.

[nocturne kiln]

Hey, um...

About Eternalism...

Isn't that a concept in that movie Mr. Nobody?

He exists in multiple timelines that are happening simultaneously

[frozen rune]

Both are based on the multiverse theory

[nocturne kiln]

But that movie specifically also talks about time with it. Doesn't that expand it from mere multiversal theory to eternalism?

[frozen rune]

No...

The multiverse theory is all about multiple universes commonly divided by the smallest of choices and changes. Including some that have different time rates

[desert dagger]

Hmm

[desert lintel]

It is the most accurate theory of time in real life

[zenith jacinth]

Warframe eternalism is incorrectly titled multiverse theory

Eternalism probably just sounded cooler

[fleet veldt]

Void and Orokin vanity at their best.

[graceful zodiac]

Yes and no. Eternalism in Warframe does have the same basis as real life Eternalism. Warframe just went Eternalism+multiverse theory in being able to switch into the other realities

[rain otter]

We haven't ever switched Realities or we haven't seen it really. Just Drifter came into ours.

From the Void.

[wild wind]

Well, there was the quantum collapse

Rather than there being an infinite number of alternate us-es, there's just Operator/Drifter now.

[fleet veldt]

Wall-Man seems to have the ability to form 'partnerships' that have all adjacent timelines of you co-align or converge to/on you, or be made unrelated (hence the many alt-deaths) to this instance of us.

Though this can imply additional content where we go back and save those other timelines from a similar issue with the allies we could make now/later.

[rain otter]

He made one with um

Baro.

[lilac fog]

hi

[pure saddle]

the new war is 7 HOURS

😭

[balmy badger]

It's only about 3-4 hours actually, it only takes longer than that if you die a lot or explore the maps for a while.

[steep delta]

i got a screenshot of Fass going splat from a Deimos bounty.

this is briefly before that

[obtuse gyro]

aww you didnt take a picture of the big lazer?

[steep delta]

no

should've though

[junior elbow]

Lol

[wicked iron]

I kind of wish Liches could spread across multiple sectors again, instead of being only in one place at a time... XD

[cyan crest]

It also was like more personal that way
Now all liches are like Earth Mars Ceres Sedna Fortress

The corpus hatred quirk is barely triggered now

[still swan]

You think we will be able to fight Pazully and that's how we gonna earn guarantee tauforged cristal would be pretty nice

[summer grotto]

I think Pazull has a different archon shard

[fleet veldt]

Pazuul has an Amber shard in him last I saw.

[obtuse walrus]

Emerald shard

[north trail]

It looks like a very dim amber shard

His shard is also very long (yes i said it again what are you gonna do)

[steep delta]

why did this have to happen when i'm 8 Pinions short of the Phenmor

like really?

[wicked iron]

It's not so bad. Just Madurai, press 1, PEW PEW PEW.

[hexed ember]

Use the madurai 2 and the phahd scaffold in a crowd

That thing obliterates steel path grineer

[steady gate]

Unairu 2 destroys armor, Madurai 2 increases amp damage by 50%

[inner echo]

вечер добрый,у меня не появляется рисунок на сосуде

[steep delta]

Why is there a Narmer sludge orb on the protovyre syanadana

[balmy badger]

Because the Protovyre cosmetics are Narmer-themed.

[meager berry]

i don't know what is this logo under forma count

[edgy sierra]

shows archon shards

[meager berry]

oh

[meager berry]

thanks

[meager berry]

and any news about playable stalker

[desert lintel]

Only for DE

[meager berry]

so still not for us at the moment

[desert lintel]

Yeah

[steady gate]

Nah, there’s a stalker mode the devs play around with sometimes

You are stalker, hunting other players

[cyan crest]

Hopefully never made public

[steady gate]

hopefully

[balmy badger]

Nah, I'd love for it to be made public so I can hear the salt of Stalker player's getting 1-shot.

At best though, probably all we would get in terms of Stalker being playable is in a quest since DE's on the new playable characters train.

I pictured some kind of side-quest that go's deeper into his backstory where you play as him in it.

[zenith jacinth]

What more do you want from his backstory though

[round pawn]

The fight for kahl this week is an interesting development

[round pawn]

I remember some info about how he was there when the tenno betrayed the orokin. Would love to be in the moment there, and as stalker would be even cooler.

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah, stalker himself gives than info

His codex mentions that:

1. He's most likely not a tenno
2. He believes the tenno are responsible for the fall of the empire (true)
3. He seemingly couldn't speak, which might imply that he was already a frame

[north trail]

Is it new?

[round pawn]

*"Some have walked these desolate worlds while you have slept. Some like me. I remember what you did. I remember the day.

The Tenno appeared at the Terminus, gleaming and victorious. Our cold and gold Emperors, breathless, bathed you in savior's silk. Then came the sound. Across all our worlds, all at once, the ceremonial Naga drums. A royal salute to the honored Tenno. Ten solemn beats to declare the suffering was over. I watched from a distance, with the rest of the low Guardians. With each beat terror began to crush my throat. The Tenno were not stoic and silent. They were waiting. They were poised. I tried to call out but only a strangled whisper escaped.

When the ninth beat rang a torrent of blood filled the stadium, loosed by Tenno blades. The drums, the Empire, fell silent forever.

Now I hunt, dividing your numbers. Watching from that dark place, cataloging your sins, I am the ghost of retribution. You may forget but you are not innocent."*

I've been wanting to see this moment for a while now

[round pawn]

The fight? No. But I think this is the first time it's happened in kahls rotation.

[north trail]

Wait what is it

[round pawn]

The wolf

[north trail]

The wolf is in the prison break mission

Which was last rotation

And had happened before that

[round pawn]

Rotation hasn't changed yet

Rotation changes in a few hours, also I missed a few weeks, so I didn't know the fight happened already

Anyhow still an interesting development

[north trail]

Wait what?

In a few hours?

Oh i was thinking of daily not weekly

[round pawn]

Yup, rotates in 7h 23m

Same for archon hunt

[round pawn]

Also I think i just heard a npc try to honor veso, but they said veko

Amazing

[steep delta]

which of these waybounds

i only have enough for one

[zenith jacinth]

Where's the error?

[jagged sable]

Assuming you mean Zenurik, I'd personally go with void flow.
Assuming you mean out of all of these waybinds, I'd go with vengeance because that gives last gasp a bit more OOMPH to help you revive quickly.

[ionic gale]

Ok for some reason when I use Kahl's dropship I can only hit 3 ships .. it makes no sense. They literally don't even react or anything to the shots and it makes the goal impossible to beat.

[fleet veldt]

DE are working on it but are currently focused on Echoes of Veilbreaker.

[balmy badger]

It's bugged, they're gonna give the 15 stock from that challenge to everyone who completed this weeks mission in a script later.

[ionic gale]

are the genestamps bugged too?

[flat shadow]

I only heard about the ships being bugged.

[frozen rune]

I got all the gene stamps so I can confirm they are not

[real niche]

The only thing that's bugged is the ship section

Everything else works as normal

[fleet veldt]

My rough idea of why is some kind of 'dissonance' or latency between the fighter's own movements and Kahl's gun(ship).

[balmy badger]

The hitboxes of the fighters don't match their actual location is what it feels like to me.

Or there is some serious physics issues with the Grattler turret projectiles during that segment.

[ionic gale]

when you shoot them, it displays the puncture symbol with indicates it has the effect of the bullets but doesn't seem to do much.

[balmy badger]

I couldn't bomb one of the walls that had a password behind it... it just kept commanding them to hold position instead of attack.

[ionic gale]

only 3 ships can be destoryed

[ionic gale]

you have to move around

[balmy badger]

I did that, a lot.

No matter what angle I tried from it wouldn't work.

And it was just that one specific wall towards extraction, all the others worked fine.

[fleet veldt]

It's a leftover from the normal version where you can break it with Op/Dr. Would be nice if we could order the placement of the explosive rather than having it tied to a specific interaction that can fail.

[balmy badger]

Oh...

[torpid lantern]

War within is super buggy. Ended up restarting. It fixed that one