spoiler-chat

[wild wind]

I have a few hundred now but back then I rarely had more than 10 at one time

Anyway I'm guessing Duviri will come with a bunch of Operator outfits becoming Drifter compatible

If I was DE I'd bring back a bunch of the paid cosmetics at the same time

[violet crescent]

Why is the drifter model significantly bigger than warframes like Mag, Titania, wisp etc.?
I thought the operator was a young adult in it's late teens. Is the drifter version so much bigger than the operator?
Or is the operator also bigger than most warframes?

[dry magnet]

If we are getting melee in duviri and probably more types of melee. Do we also get better movement and more armor for example like what we got with amps. And also is this mele would replace amp so that we can kill everything with it.

Warframe and drifter they are all same size… @violet crescent

[dry magnet]

Probably

I hope so

[violet crescent]

Uh, Just stand in front of your warframe with your drifter to see the difference in height...

Like i said: significantly bigger. Might be the skin (on mag), but still

[dry magnet]

Its not in same line and perspective trust me,model next to each other is same size

Also mag head is down not same position

[violet crescent]

hmm, could be. Stance while transference seems to be a little crouched.

thanks

[dry magnet]

Also I think after paradox update I think like 90% players would stay in that world if id done correctly. All this hard work with warframes will somehow transfer the focus on our drifters

Game will have new meaning to the game and new sense of progression

But at the same time whats the point of playing all this when we would be willingly stay in paradox

Because its more fun or more cool things to do… 🤔

Probably it would be end of warframe after that

[desert lintel]

You play warframe to stop using warframes

[rancid kraken]

Nah I’m too attached to Grendel

[edgy sierra]

we can tell

[dry magnet]

And yea playing all this time that have a reson to stop playing because you end up with a drifter

It has to be weary good

Or there is no point but just another thing we can do

So im hoping there is more in to paradox

If they want for me to left my warframes 😏

Maybe new game mod to play all galaxies maps with just a drifter but with grounded gameplay mechanics

Just imagine possibility with just that 🤔

[onyx shore]

showing off the face of my drifter in relation to yesterday's discussion

[zenith jacinth]

Older vergil

[onyx shore]

thats the best i could do with these geriatric patient faces

thats pretty much it

[stark wyvern]

what js the man in the wall saying some creepy rhyme and my operator with lootus helmet started laughing and disappeared

[obtuse gyro]

Thats both the man in the wall

[scarlet basalt]

I was thinking :
If they make an important character die, could they do the same thing as one piece like saying "Tau is real" 😭 .
That sound so dumb but it would be so funny

oh my god,imagine Erra die and he say "Tau is real"

[zenith jacinth]

Oull, ris, xata, vome, khra, lohk

[desert lintel]

Through endless faces, countless forms, a multitude unfolds. (Oull)
In luminous space, blackened stars, they gaze, accuse, deny. (Ris)
Its heralds are the stars it fells, the sky and Earth aflame. (Xata)
To cosmic madness laws submit, though stalwart minds entreat. (Vome)
To cosmic forms from tangent planes, we end as we began. (Khra)
From brooding gulfs are we beheld, by that which bears no name. (Lohk)

[wicked iron]

I thought that was said to not be it?

[desert lintel]

I heard they dissmised some other theory, not this

[zenith jacinth]

It's definitely the right order

[wicked iron]

Erich during TennoCon had said no one had yet figured out what was said there.

[zenith jacinth]

That was relating to the arg

[wicked iron]

I'm pretty sure he was talking about what The Man in the Wall said at the end of The New War. I'll double check, though.

[cyan crest]

He was

The arg is the element that said ORXVKL was the right answer

Hunter mixed the two things up

[scarlet basalt]

How the hell albretch could "translate" that ?

[zenith jacinth]

I hate that arg stuff, it added so much confusion to some things

[wicked iron]

https://youtu.be/XFwPywEaeeo?t=4353

[desert lintel]

The same way he cut finger from 60 meter eldritch god

[scarlet basalt]

albretch is built different fr
And god damn he is buff on the zariman's painting

[desert lintel]

Chad

[scarlet basalt]

Does experimentation on something so unknown and so dangerous
Cut the finger of a god

[desert lintel]

Refuse to be immortal
Dies

[random fox]

I did The New War twice and still couldn't see the man in the wall and drifter (the part where we talk to our adult version) in the cutscenes 🥲
Anybody experienced that?

[autumn badge]

i know Drifter being gone is a common bug. this is the first time i've heard of Wally being gone

[scarlet basalt]

Shrodinger wall

[autumn badge]

remembering the crossover/joke i mentioned some time back. Where's Waldo Wally?

[random fox]

the fun part is you can't see "wally" until you shake your hand with it

[stark wyvern]

@scarlet basalt @desert lintel did i miss out Albrecht story because i bought my necramech from market?

[scarlet basalt]

no.
you only need to get max rank on the necraloid's syndicat and it will allow you to get a very good story from albretch itself.
It's on the back of Loid, yes the room with requiem

[stark wyvern]

ill use YouTube doe

[scarlet basalt]

Yep but it could take a good 20 minute of your time because he speak a lot

[stark wyvern]

imagine immortal Elon musk wanting to die because he saw something scary that my operator can shake hands with @scarlet basalt

[obtuse gyro]

Its on the wiki just look for "Albretch" and "quotes"

[stark wyvern]

what was he so scared of

[obtuse gyro]

Wally

[stark wyvern]

but wally aint scary

[desert lintel]

He thought he was wally

[stark wyvern]

he just spooky, and he farted on my market table

[stark wyvern]

mimic

[desert lintel]

You know
He copied him as us

[obtuse gyro]

Imagine you step into a place that make your senses scream because nothing makes sense there, and then you see a copy of yourself reaching for you and every instinct tells you to run

[stark wyvern]

ooohk now I'm a bit uneasy and possibly scared

but hes portrayed in-game like a guy who we took some student loans from, oi you owe me 100k $!!!

[scarlet basalt]

this is edgy in a way but damn in warframe this is so cool.
It's spectacular how they've shown, there's only a recording, with ambient sound that are stressful (the voice thing) and vitruvian style image.
It's really good, and it kinda make sense with how it is nonsense the void

[stark wyvern]

also whTs the connection of drifter and operator, these starting to beckme like math, and i struglr with math

[onyx shore]

drifter older operator

[stark wyvern]

but how can I switch between em

[scarlet basalt]

isn't drifter technically younger since he isn't dead and can age (like tenno are more than 500 years so idk) ?

[stark wyvern]

tenno are dead?!!

[autumn badge]

go to the back room of your ship, where you'd normally do focus trees/customize. you can swap between the 2

[scarlet basalt]

no but i don't think anyone can age up to more than 500 years

[stark wyvern]

not asking instructions, asking reason

[autumn badge]

oh. wibbly wobbly timey wimey parallel universe stuff

[stark wyvern]

damn

[autumn badge]

it's pretty much confirmed Drifter comes from an alternate reality. so it's likely during New War, Drifter and Operator start to work side by side

[stark wyvern]

hm

also dirty move lotus did there to extract the thingy from ballas

ballas thought he didn't care about margulis but he loved her too much that he became weak

[onyx shore]

ballas is just a space incel

[stark wyvern]

aaaaand the moai with extra steps and wally thinking it's a funny prank came and made him say some poo and laughed his a off and went away

[scarlet basalt]

and he also made space delusion faction pog

[stark wyvern]

he also killed unum

[scarlet basalt]

i don't think that he killed the unum but rather messed up so much with her

and i hope one day we will see more of the Unum 🤔
It could help us a lot but maybe she could be weak with the Naarmer's attack

[onyx shore]

what even is unum

aside from the meat tower

[zenith jacinth]

Good question

[balmy storm]

she’s nice

[balmy storm]

Tenno age

[scarlet basalt]

True time flow differently in the void so idk if we cans say "younger"

[balmy storm]

Has nothing to do with the void (as far as we know)
We were in cryo sleep, preserving our bodies for who knows how long, our minds being the only active thing
Once outside the pod we begin to age

[zenith jacinth]

"But our op never gets older!"
Gameplay.

[balmy storm]

^

In universe it hasn’t been literal years between most events
I think
So there’s that too

[jagged crane]

Actually the operators seem to not age. Remember, the Old War lasted several lifetimes and we were awake for it.

[balmy storm]

We were in cryopods for that

And for the few times we weren’t we were put back in for more nap time

Like when we “kill” Erra under the command of The Lotus, we most likely were summoned outside our pod to protect her and went to sleep right after, controlling Warframes to continue the fight

[obtuse gyro]

which makes sense since we're in the area with all the pods

[jagged crane]

Were we? It seemed like our post-war-within method of transference was our original method before we lost our memory when Vor yanked us and we just had to relearn it

[balmy storm]

Exactly

[obtuse gyro]

huh? its been stated that margulis sealed our memories, meaning that even before the sentients came back to start the old war we were all in the Dream

[jagged crane]

But we’re missing our memories on the fact that we’re anything other than our current Warframe, missing our memories of having to use it, etc

[balmy storm]

The only time we were out of the cryopods during the old war was during the Erra encounter probably

[solar palm]

[balmy storm]

[jagged crane]

Which in one of the first voicelines of the game it’s Vor saying something like “this one seems to be missing it’s memory, probably from pulling it from cryosleep so abruptly” (not word for word what he said but the same message)

[solar palm]

hey fog

[obtuse gyro]

thats still not the reason we dont have WW powers by SD

[cyan crest]

Not sure the pods are cryo
I mean they sure prevent ageing but Android made a point saying a frozen brain cannot dream
Anyhow, they prevent ageing

[balmy storm]

Me and Android had a whole convo and did come to the conclusion they’re cryo, iirc Lotus mentions it during Chains of Harrow since Rell didn’t have a pod?
Plus our pods could have just been special to allow for dreaming while preventing aging

Either way, pods prevent aging and we were in them for a LONG time

[obtuse gyro]

Teshin: "Margulis lied to you, a lie of omission. She did not cure the Zariman children - she erased them. My only hope is that truth still lingers inside you, buried within your mind. The power and the misery... of the Void."  ```

[jagged crane]

The whole point of the first portion of the game is relearning everything we forgot by losing our memory so yes it would

[solar palm]

interesting

[balmy storm]

I always figured the start of the game and relearning was just cause we’ve been double asleep for thousands of years

Keeping in mind we believe ourselves to be Warframes at the start of the game

[obtuse gyro]

no its not because its been stated that margulis is why we cant remember our powers, even if we had our memories we wouldnt have our powers

[balmy storm]

We being our Tenno

[solar palm]

[jagged crane]

Teshin isn’t talking about our powers tho

He’s talking about our memories of what we did to our parents and stuff on the Zariman

[obtuse gyro]

Teshin: "The Queen burrows into your mind just as the creature worms beneath your feet. With each step, you will discover what Margulis took from you. With each step, pain awaits you."

yes he is

"Your repressed power has returned, fused with your Tenno abilities, amplifying them. You've outgrown the cradle. Now your Transference is innate. Control these Orokin beasts and escape this prison."

[solar palm]

the zariman seems like a giant school

[balmy storm]

He’s literally talking about our powers and our memories

[balmy storm]

I like to think of it as a big mall but with schools and apartments

[solar palm]

exactly

[balmy storm]

And no shops I guess

[jagged crane]

It’s a cargo freighter with apartments

[balmy storm]

but it’s got that mall vibe so idc

[solar palm]

no chick fill a

[balmy storm]

it’s a colony ship

[jagged crane]

Yes the colony is the cargo

[balmy storm]

we’re cargo

[solar palm]

lol

[jagged crane]

But realistically it would have massive amounts of cargo too, gotta bring resources to build stuff on Tau if you’re actually gonna colonize it, since we don’t know what resources will be there

[balmy storm]

Isn’t one part of the tilesets just a big cargo room too

[jagged crane]

Really they probably had enough resources on the Zariman to build a whole spaceport, the Zariman doesn’t seem capable of really landing itself with its size so the plan was prolly that people would build a docking station for the Zariman first before they even started anything else

[balmy storm]

The Zariman probably would have been a spaceport tho

[obtuse gyro]

Well the zariman was supposed to construct the rail

[balmy storm]

It was supposed to do a lot of things ):

[jagged crane]

Instead it made child soldiers which is even better

What more could a golden overlord ask for

[balmy storm]

No, instead it made a lot of trauma and super powered kids that the Orokin used to make child soldiers with their failed super soldiers

[cyan crest]

I'm wondering if it was supposed to become the rail, and that's what that big ring in the middle is for

[jagged crane]

I assume the big ring is the void drive

[obtuse gyro]

I mean I took the big middle ring as the massive version of the ring array on our railjacks

[cyan crest]

the ring array is the slingshot tho, isn't it?

[balmy storm]

It is

[jagged crane]

This would’ve been the first void drive thing ever, and prototypes always start massive and get scaled down over time

[cyan crest]

Would the zariman have a giganormous slingshot?

[balmy storm]

The zariman had a big slingshot for the tiny ships

[obtuse gyro]

yes but iirc you should be able to see the ring power up during the empyrean cutscene right before the jump

[balmy storm]

Where is it stated it’s the first?

[jagged crane]

Cuz no one had gone into the void before?

[cyan crest]

False

[balmy storm]

that also seems incredibly stupid to have your first go be the colony ship you’re banking on lol

[obtuse gyro]

the zariman is the first extra solar jump not the first jump

[balmy storm]

^

[jagged crane]

Regardless it’s still the first built to those requirements

[balmy storm]

it’s the first built to it’s size for sure

[jagged crane]

First built and used at least

[jagged crane]

Also this is the orokin, they had people to spare if they wanted to try again, and time to do it since they were immortal

Who cares if they lose a few thousand insignificant low life’s

[obtuse gyro]

fun fact: the orokin were limited in time because even if they were immortal, their system was not

[balmy storm]

I mean, they clearly didn’t actually care but they seemed to almost consider the Zariman people. Idk, I don’t want to say equals but they seemed to or acted like they valued them more than your typical Ostron Joe

[obtuse gyro]

well, not all the time

[cyan crest]

That's still a very very long run against the clock

[balmy storm]

Could say they were also limited by the amount of usable bodies
But they did have clone tech for if things got bad the queens

[jagged crane]

They still had time for a few more attempts before running out of resources considering it’s now been unknown number of millennia and we haven’t run out of resources

[obtuse gyro]

but also the rails were built before the zariman if we take albretch's sentence structure as an indication

[cyan crest]

To be fair the orokin are already all dead so things slowed down

[jagged crane]

Yes it slowed down, but they still would’ve had a decent portion of that as well regardless

[balmy storm]

I wonder if the Orokin ever used up an entire planetary body
Like a moon even

[jagged crane]

Lua

[zenith jacinth]

Hmmm

[balmy storm]

Used up to the point it’s gone

[zenith jacinth]

Lua

[balmy storm]

Every last part for resources, Lua is just falling apart

[jagged crane]

Jupiter doesn’t seem to have any of its moons left

[balmy storm]

It’s still there lol

[zenith jacinth]

That's just gameplay

[cyan crest]

how does a planetary body with its own gravity even fall apart

[zenith jacinth]

By not being a planet

[cyan crest]

Europa is looking at you menacingly

[jagged crane]

It’s falling apart cuz they harvested so much of it that when we took them out it couldn’t withstand the damage
Either that or it was like that before we attacked them and it was purely just the orokin harvesting it

[cyan crest]

Still has a gravitational pull strong enough to be round

[balmy storm]

I guess it’s trying to fall in on itself with what’s left? Held together by the ring structure

it’s “falling” apart

[jagged crane]

Pretty sure that’s only because of the skeleton frame around it

[balmy storm]

We should just let Lua crumble into Lua 2 tbh

[cyan crest]

Pretty sure gravity as a whole doesn't work like that

[jagged crane]

But they wouldn’t have any reason to harvest an entire moon because once you remove the minerals and stuff it’s just rock

[zenith jacinth]

That was a side effect of taking it out of the void I think

[balmy storm]

The frame has to be responsible for it not crumbling in on itself but it is still crumbling, something is keeping it (roughly) together

We should remove that something

[jagged crane]

I meant that’s why it’s round. Plus this is Warframe, we have artificial gravity, quite reasonable to say there’s an artificial gravity well at the center holding all the rock chunks down too

[jagged crane]

It was like that when we saw it still in the void too

[balmy storm]

Turn off the gravity, I want new tiny moon

[jagged crane]

In that scenario turning it off would just mean all the chunks slowly drift into earths orbit until they crash into the ground

[balmy storm]

Not necessarily?

Turning off the artificial gravity that’s keeping it together could cause it to completely crumble in on itself, yes there would be chunks but by the end gravity should do it’s thing and we should have a smaller moon

[jagged crane]

If proposed gravity device is no longer working that means there’s no gravity…

[balmy storm]

There’s still gravity even if the artificial one is turned off lol

[jagged crane]

If they’re just chunks of rock, there’s no object with a big enough mass to create its own gravity field

[balmy storm]

Lua is made of big enough chunks that those chunks and the smaller chunks would come together

[jagged crane]

Uh… no?

That’s not how gravity works lol

[cyan crest]

The rocks would start colliding with each other, not to mention the frame

[cyan crest]

it is tho

[balmy storm]

Everything has it’s own gravity, everything there would start colliding and becoming a ball of lua ruins

Take away what’s holding it together and it would collapse in on itself into a smaller ruined Lua

[cyan crest]

Yep, small things only have one so small it's not noticeable
Deimos and Phobos are so small they aren't even round but they still have gravitational pulls

[jagged crane]

They don’t have enough gravity to pull the other massive chunks together tho, remember that the full, regular, unshattered moon has very little gravity and wouldn’t be able to pull a chunk that size into its own orbit itself

[balmy storm]

They would because they’re close enough together as is

[cyan crest]

The normal moon has a big gravitational pull, again, it's enough to make itself round, just because it's smaller than earth's doesn't mean it's actually that small

[balmy storm]

If Earth was cut into small chunks it would fall in on itself into a new sphere-like shape
That’s what would happen with Lua

[cyan crest]

New objective, cut earth into small chunks

[balmy storm]

Isn’t that what Pazuul wants?
It’s probably what Pazuul wants

[jagged crane]

I think if Pazuul wanted to do that with the resources Narmer actually has, they probably could.

[balmy storm]

Maybe

Narmer could do a lot of things

[jagged crane]

Wait a minute
This is embers codex
So the Zariman was a military ship… but why did they put kids on there?

And the last line is them saying they didn’t put kids on there at all (to save their own skin cuz then they’d be in trouble) but if that’s the case, why did they put them there in the first place if they weren’t supposed to? What was the goal with that?

[desert lintel]

It is not another ship and try to make tenno 2 electric boogalo?

[jagged crane]

No this is talking about the Zariman

[orchid remnant]

They covered it up as a military ship

Kaleen wouldn’t know, she’s just some first responder

[jagged crane]

Kaleen is the woman who inspected the Zariman and found the children hiding

[orchid remnant]

^

[jagged crane]

She’s not tho

She’s the one who oversaw the Zarimans trip and wrote it off when it vanished

[orchid remnant]

Yeah the principal investigator

If the Orokin didn’t want anything to be known to the investigation they would have kept it covered up

[jagged crane]

That’s exactly what it seems is happening, they’re covering up that there were children on the ship

[zenith jacinth]

Pazuul want to make new forest

[orchid remnant]

Yes

[zenith jacinth]

They're covering up that it's a colony ship

[jagged crane]

But why

[brave osprey]

By the way do we know how long the Zariman disappeared?

[jagged crane]

Days

Note the last line

Very helpful codex entry lol

[brave osprey]

Thank you my brain expanded

[cyan crest]

Years according to Lotus who isn't a 2013 codex entry that's easily retconned

[jagged crane]

When does she say that?

[cyan crest]

Anyway the military ship thing was indeed a cover up

[cyan crest]

Second dream, when she asks you what you remember

[jagged crane]

Years real time or years aboard the Zariman? Cuz the void does some funky time stuff

[cyan crest]

She said it was years before the ship was recovered

[jagged crane]

Could just mean it took a few years between it appearing and then getting control of it again 🤷‍♂️

I don’t actually remember her saying that tho

Imma go Google that cutscene

[cyan crest]

Give me 5 minutes to get the transcript

[hexed ember]

didn't the zariman disappear and come multiple times

[cyan crest]

Lotus: "Memories. From your time aboard the Zariman Ten Zero, before the Void-Jump accident. It was years before the ship was recovered. It was drifting dead in space, all her crew gone... except the children."

[cyan crest]

No

I mean it reappeared for the second time in the angels quest but that's it

[jagged crane]

Drifting dead in space would mean not in the void

[jagged crane]

Which when do we ever hear about it disappearing for the second time?

[cyan crest]

We know the orokin wanted to delete the evidence so they probably yeeted it into the void

[brave osprey]

Means it jumped, got out of the Void with only children, got then booted back to the void and something pushed it back to our reality

Orokin are playing ping pong with someone or someTHING and i do NOT like that

[jagged crane]

“Drifting dead in space” is very different from “lost in the void” tho. Plus idk if Lotus is 100% reliable on it either since she wasn’t even created until a long time after it was recovered

[cyan crest]

The net is the Albrecht membrane

[cyan crest]

Both entries say it reappeared and then they found it. As in, they didn't find it in the void

[balmy storm]

Didnt they say the Zariman came back like it never left but it’s clearly in ruins when we see it
What’s up with that

[jagged crane]

Second time it came back

[cyan crest]

It means the Ember entry is retconned 78 times

Everything except for the zariman jumping and being lost in saturn is contradicted

[balmy storm]

lol

[cyan crest]

Well, and there being children in the ship

[jagged crane]

Children that couldn’t control their powers and hurt whoever got close too

There rly isn’t much that would be retconned other than the days vs years thing.

[cyan crest]

Margulis (if you chose her) says that she saw the chaos with her own two eyes and brought many tenno out of that hell, which contrasts with "as if it had never left"

Also Kaleen's never being mentioned again

[jagged crane]

End of the codex entry seems like she’s being sent to be executed tbh so

[balmy storm]

Kaleen was never real

[zenith jacinth]

The orokin would never execute someone for knowing somethi- oh wait.

[hexed ember]

the orokin would execute someone for not being real tbh

[jagged crane]

Wally’s in trouble

Also any other abstract void entity

[zenith jacinth]

The orokin would execute a wall for being in their way

[autumn turret]

the orokin would execute someone for being too close to their air

[zenith jacinth]

No, that's only something a certain grineer would do

[storm wolf]

The orokin will never execute people. The ororkin loves all. They are our saviors. The orokin will lead us from failure

[cyan crest]

Hey that's not fair for Gehrman you never had to give him stuff for him to get up and kick your butt

[sullen shuttle]

Bro u just spoiled it

Aw hell naw

[jagged crane]

I wanna know what the deleted message was now

[jagged sable]

dunno why it was deleted if it was a spoiler, this is spoiler chat.

[balmy storm]

It was a meme about spoilers with no context about the new war

So this would be the place for it aside from it being a meme I guess
Idk

[balmy ice]

I think the as if it had never left describes it like it is right now.
I assume they were trying to use the void like a warp gate. Like how the sentients did.

So it reappeared like it never left with only us on it because we probably forced the jump back, or the man in the wall did something interesting himself.

[cyan crest]

Whot?

Everyone uses the void to do FtL travel

That's the base for solar rails

Also it cdnnot be like it is rn because it's literally in ruins unless it left in ruins

Which it didn't

[balmy storm]

So why is it in ruins now

[cyan crest]

Time and void

[hexed ember]

could it have been fine the first time, then become ruined between the last time it disappeared until now.. for some reason

[balmy storm]

The only reason for it looking like people tried to survive and live there would be the Holdfasts, but some of it feels more like it was the Tenno who used it to try and survive
Which is more likely since they had actual threats and needed to live vs the Holdfasts who’s only known danger is giving into the Angel’s Song

[muted kestrel]

So if the stalker is a tenno what was his frame?

I'm thinking chroma

[torpid lantern]

My personal theory is that Ember codex isn't retconned. Rather this is Drifter's ship

[slim anvil]

i assume the orokin disassembled the other zariman after it failed

[torpid lantern]

Lotus said they wiped the logs and did everything they could to erase the ship. I don't think sending into the void is something they'd even consider if it came back once. Destroying it would make more sense

Not to mention, the Holdfast never mention the ship getting recovered

If they've been stuck like this with many many others who slowly became angels, wouldn't they know if their ship was recovered?

[slim anvil]

"recovered with no damage" covered in void metal and has a sabotaged environmental system

there are definitely 2 zarimans
well technically theres infinite but the 2 we have access to

[torpid lantern]

All the doodles show two

so definitely

[zenith jacinth]

The stalker is the warframe

No tenno involved

[thick jolt]

But this zariman had logs about children with powers
Drifters didnt get the deal as far as we know right now

[torpid lantern]

I know.. but this Zariman appears to be the one from Duviri which is the drifter's. It wouldn't make sense that it could be the rescued ship when Drifter states in New War that he's been semi-stuck with the ship in Duviri because he wasn't rescued.

It doesn't make a lot of sense why powers are mentioned. I'm just listening to the Drifter

[thick jolt]

agh duviri cant come soon enough to get some confirmation

[torpid lantern]

I know! Suspense is killing me!

[muted kestrel]

WHAT WHAT FRAME IS IT EXCALIBUR? Also if it's a frame why does it look like just a operator

[thick jolt]

what kinda stalker have you been looking at to think it looks like an operator ?

[muted kestrel]

😐it's color mainly and it's attack when you're in the orbiter

It just doesn't seem like a Warframe

[thick jolt]

the asset used on him is literally an excalibur body with a different head

[strange onyx]

He is a Warframe

No other possibility except maybe something New

He uses abilities from MULTIPLE different Warframes

[muted kestrel]

Hmmmmm ok

[edgy sierra]

Other, normal, people can use transference but it does stuff to them (Silvana as an example)

either stalker is using transference on his warframe or his is the warframe

[balmy storm]

Melica mentions a few Tenno, Terolee, Nimian, Rell and someone with “Unusually Vibrant” hair
I’m unsure if Terolee or Nimian have been mentioned before but I wonder if the vibrant haired individual is either a nod to something or maybe someone we’ll meet?
Idk, it’s a single line and I’m probably reaching here but it’s interesting

[edgy sierra]

Berryn had bright red hair

[balmy storm]

Could be Berryn

I hope we get to meet any of the other tenno, preferably our classmates since we already met them once and in theory they should still be alive!

[thick jolt]

could ..... could the unusially vibrant remark reference her sensors trying to make sense of wally ?

[cyan crest]

I think it's just her saying one of her students had weird hair

Given what we saw at the classroom cutscene, that'd be totally fair

[hexed ember]

it was a phase

[zenith jacinth]

I think it's just a reference to the fact that there's guaranteed to be one student with very brightly colored hair in the classroom scenes

I do wonder how melica knows who she's talking to even when we're in our warframe

[cyan crest]

We're not always in it, especially during the quest

[zenith jacinth]

So you're telling me you leave your frame whenever you walk by a melica console?

[cyan crest]

I'm telling you she could've seen us when we where killing Thrax, or angels, or when the holdfasts brought us to our Dormizone

[balmy storm]

Or she’s recognizing it’s us based on something else, not just sight
Or she just is saying stuff

[balmy badger]

There's a good chance he is his Warframe, like how Rell committed his soul to Harrow.

[wind hollow]

Isn't his character legit an excalibur-

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-warframe-what-bubson-gierczak-gif-24504035

[wild copper]

the body is iirc
the helmet, obviously, isn't

and not sure if you'd consider stalkers moves abilities, but his abilities are different from excal

[balmy ice]

I’ve always assumed stalkers suit was a hunhow gift

[wild copper]

he already had the frame before meeting and working with hunhow, can't be that

[frozen rune]

I thought it was a modified frame

[wild copper]

probably is

from what i remember, the stalker was a dax soldier that witnessed the coup d'etat and vowed his revenge against the tenno

[peak orchid]

MMMM KAHL LOOK GOOD

[peak orchid]

in second dream it looks like hes using exalted blade

[wild copper]

if you're referring to the final boss fight, just watched it, looks like he's using war to shoot those projectiles

[fossil fractal]

he is but i guess you could say it looks like the projectiles that exalted blade shoots out

[swift pond]

I like how our homie is as into fashion as his Tenno friends. He's one of ours for sure.

[zenith jacinth]

Low guards probably weren't dax

[peak orchid]

MMMMM KAHL LOOK GOOD

i'm still kinda annoyed though that in the new war out of all weapons Veso uses a pistol

[zenith jacinth]

A plinx

And also a prova, which is plain superior

[naive warren]

@gilded parrot Which Archon are you stuck on?

[gilded parrot]

all of the bozos

they either kill me or heal back to full before i can get them

[naive warren]

You only have to fight two for now

[gilded parrot]

i've almost killed the owl and snake on several occasions

always got killed though

[naive warren]

Yes go for those Amar is the worst

[gilded parrot]

all of them are the worst

[naive warren]

Really you have to watch their attack patterns and see how you can dodge it, they are quite hard but eventually you can get past it

[gilded parrot]

also why is there a white icon on the left thing of my orbiter

[naive warren]

Can you be more specific?

[gilded parrot]

this

[naive warren]

I’m not sure can you zoom out?

[autumn badge]

syndicate change. everyone gets that until they pledge to one

[gilded parrot]

oh

ok

which archon is the easiest

[naive warren]

Boreal probably, Nira goes invisible and latches to walls

[gilded parrot]

i keep getting wrecked in her electric field thing

[naive warren]

But for the New War I chose Amar and Boreal it was a terrible choice, I would definitely go for the others

[cyan crest]

You have to use the smoke bomb to bypass Boreal's heal

[gilded parrot]

oh

ok thx

[autumn badge]

i did the wolf first. when he splits into copies, target the one with flaming weapons

next i did the owl. kept dodge rolling into his screech bubble until i broke through

[naive warren]

Just watch out for his electrifying dash attack (can’t remember that well)

[cyan crest]

I mean you can power through Boreal's heal but the smoke bomb smoothes stuff

[gilded parrot]

im a bit worried now im not really good at head-to-head combat

[naive warren]

You will eventually get past them, it took me a couple tries and during the failed attempts you learn how to avoid what killed you before

[gilded parrot]

this is annoying

[naive warren]

Don’t let it get to you, after all there is a save spot before you choose an archon to fight

[gilded parrot]

im just gonna take a breather before i throw my controller

[gilded parrot]

smoke didnt really work

[cyan crest]

Then I recommend spam rolling into it

[gilded parrot]

that worked, but then it was at full

[naive warren]

You are charging your shots with the Nataruk right?

[gilded parrot]

yeah

as soon as it goes yellow i fire

[naive warren]

Ok well I think I just avoided his screech and ran far away, I don’t remember if it helped or not

[zenith jacinth]

You're shooting when it's between the two lines, yes?

[gilded parrot]

yeah

[zenith jacinth]

Oh, and boreal is definitely the hardest of the three. Nira is easiest and amar is middle

[cyan crest]

Boreal is definitely the easiest

Spam roll and you kill him

[naive warren]

I think Amar is, he was incredibly hard to avoid when he slammed down

[ruby eagle]

Assuming this is TNW and not hunts, then i would rate it as nira<amar<boreal

[balmy badger]

Amar just, rarely ever attacked when I fought him.

Just spammed clones.

Oh, you're talking about TNW, not the hunts.

[frozen talon]

So this orb just appeared for no reason any ideas ow and btw i have done all the quest so this definitely something new or a bug

[brave osprey]

Yeah probably a bug i have it too, DE didn't talk about yet, did they?

[jagged sable]

Did we ever get confirmation that this was a bug or were we just calling it a bug?

[frozen talon]

no

no confirmation

might be a teaser

[brave osprey]

Idk, if it was a teaser there would be something we could do with it. Nothing interacts with it.

[frozen talon]

yeah i'm just speculating

if they fix it they fix it if not well

[brave osprey]

So we'll just have to wait then

[frozen talon]

yeah

its giving some sort of sound to

humming or something like that

[zenith jacinth]

It's the glowing light from apostasy prologue

This has to be like the 50th time someone asks about it at this point

[naive warren]

Haha I know I don’t think DE is aware of it

[high otter]

I mean, I think there's bugs bigger than the light from that quest

[naive warren]

It’s not really that much of a bother though

[high otter]

I personally actually love that light there. Gives personality

[naive warren]

Like Nira currently

[high otter]

Had no issue with her

[naive warren]

If you have a lot or a bit of radiation on a weapon, and you hit her on the second stage she dies instantly

[zenith jacinth]

This light bug is older than nira's

[naive warren]

Of course it

It appeared at the start of Veilbreaker day one

[zenith jacinth]

I feel like it should still be removed due to the huge amount of confusion and speculation it spawned since it returned to haunt us

[glass birch]

ze honse

why ze honse in zariman room place

[velvet wing]

Maybe the light is Cephalon Fog

[cyan crest]

I'm who

[velvet wing]

The light in personal quarters

[cyan crest]

But it's blue, Fog is green

[velvet wing]

Fog being sneaky, put on disguise

[cyan crest]

Makes sense

[velvet wing]

Or maybe Cephalon Fog got a makeover, though they’d go with a new colour for Autumn

[fleet veldt]

The light was around during various prior occurrences that happened in the Lounge. Namely, micro-quests like the Prologue quests.

[velvet wing]

I’m familiar with what it’s from

[supple dagger]

When will the operator not be considered spoilers?

[balmy storm]

Probably never as long as there are new players

[balmy ice]

I mean depends on how duvuri goes

They said duvuri was ideally accessed earlier on iirc.

Technically since Drifter and Operators story converge, Drifter might meet Operator in the very end of Duvuri.

Or at the very least reference the concepts.

[balmy storm]

It’s early but you’ll still know about Operators by that point

[balmy ice]

You think? I thought they mentioned making it earlier than that.

Maybe I just missed the wording somewhere.

[balmy storm]

Iirc they mentioned it would be early but not earlier than knowledge of the Operator

[balmy ice]

Though at MR5 it’s still pretty shocking to go from Ninja to Space Baby to Space Quantum time travel ninja flips

So it’s probably a good thing it isn’t earlier than operator

[supple dagger]

They def should add better drifter faces when durvi drops

[balmy storm]

Or better masks to hide the face

[supple dagger]

Nah, def better faces

There should be a suggestion channel

[obtuse gyro]

Half-remember hearing them say it can be played before TNW, so youd definitely would know about the ops

[supple dagger]

🥱

[balmy storm]

Forums

[supple dagger]

Warframe fourms exist?

[balmy storm]

I can confirm it will be before TNW

[supple dagger]

That's crazyyy

Where does it come in the timeline tho?

Before TNW?

TNW does stand for the new war right?

[balmy storm]

Yes and it’s before in the timeline

[supple dagger]

Crazyyyy

I pray, to the gods at DE, make the drifter less ugly, please.

[balmy storm]

lol

[peak orchid]

I want it to be winter already

Theres this youtuber who picked Margulis in the New War coz of the boobas

[random fox]

If you're patient enough, you can actually make drifter look good 🙂

[astral crypt]

I have a face I like but my drifter still looks like she’s 50, would prefer it if some sort of age slider was added

[edgy sierra]

I just use the Stranger's mask so I don't have to see her face

[supple dagger]

any new prime frames leaked ??

[craggy solstice]

Pretty sure it's going to be Revenant, if not then Baruuk.

Based on release order.

[fleet veldt]

Very much hoping Rev P comes with Primed versions of his signature weapons, like with how Khora P got hers - and that his theme would be borderline Narmer considering him being an Eidolon-frame.

[craggy solstice]

Wandering around the drifter camp.

What is that behind our orbiter? I just noticed that.

[cyan crest]

I think those are engines

[craggy solstice]

Hard to get a good look unless maybe captura scene can get a beter look.

Looks like of like generic warframe asset for a machine.

[cyan crest]

We could compare it to the concept art to see what it relates to

Mm, it's not a 1 to 1 but I think we can identify them with the engines

[supple dagger]

Hope they bring back Lotus's vampire skin one of these Naberus

[elder hollow]

That would be so good

[stable grove]

Am I the only person who chose operator over drifter on the zariman

[stable grove]

I’m pretty sure it’s the actual orbiter

I think this was the original orbiter since the inside only used to reach the arsenal

But since the new rooms they had to make a new orbiter so everything makes sense

[cyan crest]

No, the big orbiter being there was a concept since a long time ago, it was never just the landing craft

New war just made us see ours in game for the first time

[stable grove]

Oh it was a thing back then?

[cyan crest]

Yes, it just wasn't visible, but you could see a bunch flying in the distance in relays for example

[stable grove]

I thought those were just the landing crafts

[cyan crest]

I mean out the windows in the distance

Inside relays themselves there are only landing crafts

Also what they were asking about wasn't about the orbiter, but about the big geometrical thing in the distance inside the cave

Which seems similar to the engines in the concept art

[stable grove]

The thing in the back?

[cyan crest]

Yes

[supple dagger]

Is it just me or does the zariman seem highly unfinished, story wise and little bit gameplay wise? I thought it was going to be more than a broken down ship with four people in it. The Hab-unit could have been so much more. We could have fixed the ship instead of just keeping it alive, we could have done some really epic void flex and defeated a harder boss. It seems like a lot of missed potential and i hope they return to it. Hopefully they don't leave veilbreaker in such a state either.

Seems like maybe the duiviri paradox is ready to take a deeper plunge?

[obtuse gyro]

Might just be you, it was a wonder that we even got 4 people on board (and even then theyre still dead)

The zariman was a disaster for a reason

And fixing a ship of that size, especially with all the hazards on board, not to mention it currently acting as a plug in the void, is currently seemingly impossible

[supple dagger]

Yeah but you don't go into it expecting it to stay that way, at least i didn't even after my op, and everyone else said it wasn't happening.

[obtuse gyro]

I doubt anyone was expecting to be able to fix/free the zariman from the void horrors that occupy its deck... Because half of it is still in the void

[supple dagger]

You want it to be a place people will return to after they've scooped up farmjng exclusives

[obtuse gyro]

And thats independent from fixing it

[supple dagger]

Sure, but fixing it would help towards people spending more time there, like unlocking a new world

Cause its that big

It just needed a resolution of any kind

[obtuse gyro]

And fixing it in its current void plagued state is currently far out

[supple dagger]

Veilbreaker seems like its pushing for the end of the narmer and so forth, other open worlds have had closure in the form of the narmer liberation, but, i still wanna kill nef

[supple dagger]

Nah i get that, but it's " far off" and they've already moved on so 😣

[hexed ember]

it's not like the zariman is 'over' though

[torpid lantern]

I actually agree with you, and no worries, a lot of other people do too. Everything was leading up to the Zariman throughout the entire game. So many secrets, betrayals and tension were involved with it that it's kinda natural many of us were let down by such a rushed quest. The players weren't given enough time to truly develop connections with the Holdfast and the dialogue from the Tenno had a few odd bits of whiplash, first hating the ship and the Holdfast's intentions, then suddenly caring when they appeared to die, then returning to disdain for the ship (rightfully so in my opinion).
I've continued to feel the quest was very disorienting.
Especially when the ARG felt like it contained more content and dialogue than the quest did.

From what I know however, it was worked on by a different team than the one that worked with Steve. It was also their first quest. With that in my mind, I suspect they will learn from the shortcomings of this quest and continue to build better ones in the future. The Zariman is not disappearing. It's a key factor in keeping the void from decimating the system, and both MITW and Pazuul seem to have mild interest in it. If the stars align, the team may revisit it like they have with Narmer and build on the missing details.

[blazing flame]

Anyone know of a way to change the name of an active lich or have it be removed from the codex record?

[thick jolt]

There is no way to do that

[blazing flame]

So I guess I'm just stuck with the name of the one I have forever on this account?

[thick jolt]

I think so

You can however change the name of the weapon after though i think it costs platinum

[blazing flame]

I had put in a ticket asking about it and they said I just needed to convert / vanquish it. I don't think converting this thing is a good idea at all

Really dont want to have this stuck on my account

[languid torrent]

That's not the worst name I've ever seen. There's Such Egg, Bopp Bipp, and loads of Lich names that are actually innuendos.

[naive warren]

It will still appear in the codex in the Kuva Lich category

[languid torrent]

Do what I did, rename that Tonkor to sTonks

[obtuse gyro]

I think hes very concerned about the last 5 letters in the liches name

[blazing flame]

Yup, that would be the issue 😛

[torpid lantern]

Did you tell them that the name contains a banned word and you are uncomfortable?

I didn't notice at first glance so perhaps they missed it. I would strongly advise putting in a second ticket and explaining there's a banned word in the name and you don't want that permanently tied to your account. I don't know if DE can change the name but players cannot so DE is the only solution here

[craggy solstice]

It would be silly of DE to take action against a player for a name that the system generates and isn't due to user input of any kind.

[blazing flame]

@torpid lantern this is the ticket that I posted. That is a good idea to submit a second ticket and mention that its a "banned" word to see if they will see it.

[torpid lantern]

Hmmm... it's the only thing i can think of. Can you include screenshots?

[blazing flame]

You can, I included the one I posted up there.

[fossil fractal]

you could just get rid of him and never look at him again

[torpid lantern]

Okay. I'm sorry there isn't any other solutions. Hopefully support can clarify if removing a lich is something they can do. Good luck

[languid torrent]

I mean... I don't think DE will go after you for something the name generator spat out, if it's any consolation, especially given you're like 'what the hell is this?'.

[blazing flame]

I make content on this account. I really don't want to have it as a landmine for the future

[languid torrent]

Kill him, then rename his Tonkor to 'Kuva Tonkor' or similar. That way, he's only a name in a small pocket on your Codex that you never have to look back on.

[fossil fractal]

yeah just dont open codex

if traded liches are taken out of your codex then you could just trade it to a friend

[blazing flame]

They are not I tested it, tested pretty much every method I could think of

[fossil fractal]

theres still absolutely no reason you would have to check the liches page

[naive warren]

If DE can’t change it this is the only solution ⬆️

[languid torrent]

If you need the plat, send me your name, I'll spot you the dosh.

It's a crude solution, but it's the best one I can think of on short notice.

[blazing flame]

Thank you for the offer! I'm just going to delete the weapon. Have been frustrated because up until this lich I had done everything solo and recorded it all. It is the first lich on the account too, but I will just get another one and hope the name doesn't roll this horribly.

[languid torrent]

TBH you could also horribly murder another Lich with a Tonkor and use Valence Fusion to fuse the unfortunate Lich's gun to the other.

[blazing flame]

True! I want to record my first solo lich though. But ill keep that in mind. I realized that I should not convert this lich because this inbox message would be... interesting.

[languid torrent]

Very interesting.

[balmy badger]

You can delete inbox messages btw.

[balmy storm]

I save my mail
all of it

[zenith jacinth]

I didn't until I converted my first lich

The most gigachad lich to ever exist

[jagged crane]

I honestly don’t really see why the name is a super big issue. Yes those last 5 letters have been used in horrible ways before but it is also just a normal word in the Spanish language and it’s not even by itself in the name. I had to actively look for something wrong with it and still couldn’t see anything until I saw someone say it was the last 5 letters specifically. Maybe I’m wrong but I would say that due to the fact that it’s also just a Spanish word, if it’s not being explicitly used as a racist term, it doesn’t count as one.
Also the fact that it’s a Spanish word means it can’t be banned because Warframe does have a Spanish language option iirc.

[rain otter]

That's a Lotta words. I don't even know what slur people are talking about. You seem to have a Lotta werid excuses at the ready.

[balmy storm]

The issue would be they feel uncomfortable having a lich with that name, to them it is not something they want to have

If I had a lich who’s name had a word that I found uncomfortable I would also want it gone

[jagged crane]

I know, that’s why I was saying that, because I know not everyone knows Spanish so some people don’t know it’s just a normal word, I was hoping to try and help them be more comfortable with it with knowing it’s the Spanish word for black

I just made it really wordy to try and not make it sound like I was dismissing it in a bad way and somehow ended up doing the opposite cuz I’m dumb like that

[balmy storm]

The word itself can still be uncomfortable even with the knowledge of other meanings

[fleet veldt]

If they Converted that Lich, they should consider trading it off and deleting the message regarding that Lich so the only record of their existence would be in their Codex.

That said, would be nice if Kahl could request our Liches/Sisters as reinforcements or had some kind of interaction with them.

[jagged crane]

Even better, a Kahl exclusive lich fight, one that’s in the Kahl game mode and specifically designed for Kahl

[supple dagger]

I cant wait for that Wolf fight tbh. Im hoping that Kahls gonna have to fight him on his upcoming mission, and not later

[cloud jackal]

I hope he joins us

did the Wolf even really have beef with us? I thought he just hated being captive

and then he got hybridized by Alad V and sent after us

[gloomy tulip]

hey yall returning plater and finally made it to 100 day milestone , what should i choose azima or zenith? i did hear zenistar is trash now though

[cloud jackal]

Zenith>Azima>Zenistar imo

[gloomy tulip]

ok thanks so much 👍

[supple dagger]

I’ve never seen Wally in that position before lol

[fleet veldt]

He got stuck.

[steep delta]

did he get squished between two parts of the orbiter or smth

[balmy storm]

Hand stand

[steep delta]

i liked the part of Stolen Plates where Drifter was drifting on a K-Drive. anyone else think that was cool and Drifter/Operator riding K-Drives should be a feature?

[steep delta]

which waybound of these 2?

do i upgrade Void Flow or do i upgrade Void Siphon once i get 44k more focus?

[wild copper]

Ideally both, but go with flow first

[zenith jacinth]

He's incredibly violent and aggressive

[shy cove]

Does anyone in here know If Gloom works on the Angels?

[frozen rune]

It does if memory serves

[fossil fractal]

i wanna give kuva to kahl

[primal thorn]

kahl as a lich

[crimson river]

the only way to obtain the kuva grakata

[primal thorn]

no that would be clem

[crimson river]

give kahl 100K kuva

[crimson river]

no that would be the kuva twin grakatas

[primal thorn]

ah right

[crimson river]

is it kuva twin or twin kuva?

[balmy storm]

Yes

[peak orchid]

aaaaa kahl look good

[muted kestrel]

Get out

You're too down bad

Get out

Outtttttttttttttt

[peak orchid]

thats my fav kahl line though lol

[zenith jacinth]

Art thou speaking to thine self?

[vague wharf]

Hmm

[high otter]

They're really excited about the soup

[lean fulcrum]

This new

[jagged crane]

Nope it’s been there the whole time, should be getting the npc for it next week/mission or so

[lean fulcrum]

K

[muted kestrel]

Now sir you best take your fancy talk and walk right outta this here bar

[zenith jacinth]

I refuse

[balmy storm]

If we gave an eidolon enough Archon shards what would happen?
Aside from it presumably healing

[torpid lantern]

Instant regret

[naive warren]

It will become a puppet to the Lords of Tau an utter humiliation

[zenith jacinth]

Or a new friend

[sharp spoke]

Honestly, it'd be kinda cool if you could beef up an eidolon by expending an Archon shard, for like a nifty extra reward or something

[naive warren]

A guaranteed Arcane Energize

[sharp spoke]

[zenith jacinth]

I just want eidolon friend

I feel like I am too lonely and friendly to play this game

[naive warren]

Here’s the problem it can only stay in the Plains

[zenith jacinth]

Walk it over to our camp

[jagged crane]

So when do we address that Salad V was on the same ship as Veso. The same ship that was blown up and confirmed to have killed Veso.

[naive warren]

Ah yes, just casually taking the eidolon for a walk

[zenith jacinth]

When was it ever said that salad was on the same ship tho

Why would the coward be anywhere near the front lines

[jagged crane]

The whole point of that segment was him trying to save the ship to save his own skin

[zenith jacinth]

It was him trying to bow down to a stronger force (again)

[jagged crane]

Because he was on that ship

[zenith jacinth]

Alad is not one to be in a battle ship at the front lines

[jagged crane]

Why would he want to break fire control off from the fleet to save that one ship if he wasn’t on it tho?

[naive warren]

He never learns, I’m not even convinced he has a brain cell

[zenith jacinth]

He wasn't trying to save that one ship, he was trying to "join" the sentients by giving up

As you said, the whole fleet was supposed to stop attacking

[zenith jacinth]

He has half a brain cell that bounces around his skull like a dvd screensaver

[naive warren]

Sentients would of probably killed him or “used” him to create abominations anyway

[zenith jacinth]

If it hits a corner it forms a logical thought

[jagged crane]

The whole segment was us trying to re-establish contact with the rest of the fleet

Meaning all our communications to outside ships were cut off so all of Alad’s calls had to come from inside of the ship

[zenith jacinth]

It's 11:55pm and I'm only gonna get like 4 hours of sleep already, so I'll just stop talking now

[jagged crane]

Aight

[naive warren]

Time for me to take it from here I guess…

[balmy storm]

That can’t be the death of Salad because that would be lame for that little cockroach

[naive warren]

If what you state is true, then he probably used an escape pod or something (finally using a brain cell)

[jagged crane]

Oh it definitely won’t be, but logically it would
But enemies with names don’t exactly die in this game

[jagged crane]

How in the world would he have managed to get into an escape pod in the 5 seconds between him saying “I’ve negotiated an arrangement” to the murex blasting the ship lol

[balmy storm]

Tbh if he was aboard the ship then the moment Veso took control he was probably out of there

[naive warren]

It’s Salad I wouldn’t be surprised

[jagged crane]

Turns out he was just sitting in the escape pod the whole time with his hand over the eject button

[balmy storm]

you wouldn’t have your own personal escape pod?

[jagged crane]

Typically escape pods are on the outside of the ship and Salad is probably going to have his command center in the center of it to be as far away from the scary guys with guns as possible

[balmy storm]

It stands to reason if you think ahead that your own personal transport off a ship for emergencies would be a good idea, so good that I’d assume it would be built in to the ship

We also know the Corpus do have some kind of teleportation technology and if they regained the systems then who knkows

[jagged crane]

This is the same guy who made himself an infested tho, he clearly ain’t that smart

[naive warren]

He probably didn’t attach or build the emergency save system to the corpus ship

[torpid lantern]

I'm going to be the one to point out the ship wasn't blown up. You can even see it for yourself on the railjack when the Tenno join the fight. Rather the bridge Veso was at had a laser punched through it. Shields might have gone offline for a bit but we know from RJ fights that the shields can be restored. If Alad was on the ship, which I doubt, he was not anywhere near Veso, otherwise he would've had the clearance to disable fire himself.
Alad was attempting to disable fire for the fleet so he could surrender to the Sentients. That was his sole intention. Once that backfired, he escaped until at some point he likely was narmered along with the other bosses

[sharp spoke]

Yeah, I figured if nothing else he snagged an escape pod the second he realized Veso wasn't about to roll over

[orchid remnant]

Veso didn’t die Alad saved him

[naive warren]

The Murex didn’t even get blown up, and if the corpus ship didn’t get blown up (stated by Faeii) then the Murex surely returned fire and blew it up afterwards

[cyan crest]

I'm also just gonna point out that he was trying to get fire control from the fleet to surrender so it doesn't mean he was on that ship

They say the word fleet multiple times when addressing that situation

[torpid lantern]

Yep!

[naive warren]

I highly doubt Alad would risk his life by being that close

[cyan crest]

Specially since that ship is right in front of a murex

[torpid lantern]

sounds like he'd sooner risk dealing with the board than dealing with the Sentients xD

[sharp spoke]

Especially after being menaced by the ropalolololololyst for so long

[bright torrent]

So a thing i was having a think about. Now we have khal as grind able content now what do we think the chances of seeing the corpus guy and teshin as grind able weeklys.
And before anyone says yes ik he is dead but i was thinking it could be like we are playing memory’s from his past or something. Idk just think teshin was a muchv more fun character to play than khal seams a shame to not bring him back as well

[balmy storm]

We could get a different Corpus pal in the future, tbh I’d even take Kahl somehow figuring out how to use Corpus robots

I kinda doubt we’ll see Teshin gameplay again but I do think we could use his swords in the future, maybe you can swap innate elements with them too

[bright torrent]

Kinda have the feeling not many people liked the corpus guy from new war just cus his mechanics was a little awkward but ik alot of people liked playing teshin

[balmy storm]

As for his orvius disk, it would be cool to get a stance or mod that enabled the grapple

Veso is 100% dead so if we see corpus gameplay then it will probably be a different guy

[bright torrent]

Idk y but part of me thinks teshin might come back. I mean ik he died but we also sore ordis die yet he still survived since that was the drifters ordis. so whats to say teshin wont also have his own version of the drifter

[orchid remnant]

Have you watched the Duviri Paradox gameplay at Tennocon

[bright torrent]

Like when u start messing with timey whimy stuff death sorta dosnt stay a thing

Nah im avoiding the gameplay cus we gonna be playing that when it comes out but iv seen the trauler and know sorta what its about

[graceful zodiac]

It wasn't about lost contact with the fleet, it was about fire control. He was trying to force a surrender

[jagged crane]

But the whole segment is literally titled “re-establish communications” or something similar

[torpid lantern]

Veso was my favorite to play as. I really really wish he hadn't died

[balmy storm]

Same, I love his story though! It’s like he has his own little arc about standing up for yourself and it’s amazing

[jagged sable]

Maybe he'll still be alive in Duviri like Teshin if we're lucky?

[balmy storm]

Unlikely

Teshin could have survived by entering the portal like us, but Veso? Nowhere near anything relating to the void

So unless a certain wall man just deiced to make a deal with this random guy who has zero significance and only exists as a lens to see the war then we won’t be seeing Veso again, not in the present or future

[jagged crane]

I hated the Veso segment tbh, much preferred both Kahl and Teshin

[graceful zodiac]

It's reinstating Alad's command overrides

[torpid lantern]

DE gave a very definitive confirmation that he died. That's nothing something they did with Kahl or Teshin so while I want him to come back, I know he's not gonna

[thick jolt]

yeah rebb herself said veso was dead in an interview

[twilit geode]

Veso was an absolute chad. He knew what his sacrifice would mean, and chose it rather than mindless servitude and betraying his entire species. Going against everything the Corpus tried to ingrain in him.

[supple dagger]

I haven't been online in a hot minute has operator energy colors been fixed yet?

[obtuse gyro]

Veso did quiet (and loud) quitting before it became a buzzword

[high otter]

Maybe he joined the sisterhood

[high otter]

I mean, parvos would be proud of him, I think...

[high otter]

Man went out with a bang(lol, literally) , together with every other corpus that handled the rail gun. He didn't even finish speaking and they were already charging the gun.

[balmy storm]

nah he dead

[high otter]

[desert lintel]

Bring this man a health regen and nekros

[peak orchid]

what happend to Veso anyway

[balmy storm]

He died

[edgy sierra]

He went boom

[languid torrent]

Murex fired on the ship he was in. Also the general chaos of the war. He dead.

[peak orchid]

i thought that ship fired on the murex

[edgy sierra]

it did, but it shot back too

[languid torrent]

IIRC, it did, and then the Murex got angry and fired back

[peak orchid]

I needa replay new war and look closely then

man... atleast my man Kahl is still alive

[edgy sierra]

Kahl immortal

Kahl stronker than those of old blood

[peak orchid]

bruh the ship didnt even do anything to the murex

[balmy badger]

I thought the Murex exploding is what took out the Capital Ship he was on?

[naive warren]

I don’t think Veko even caused bad damage to the Murex with that blast

[languid torrent]

It was about sending a message. Plus for what it's worth he did do some appreciable damage, the wiki seems to say he destroyed the Murex (who took him with it in it's death throes, granted, but)

[naive warren]

We don’t see anything after the screen turns white apart from the Murex getting hit. (It definitely wasn’t enough) I don’t think Veso would of been able to fire again though.

[frigid root]

Is the Sirocco any good for Eidolon hunting or are modular amps still better?

[edgy sierra]

still better. the charging/reloading is not that good for eido hunts

[twilit geode]

I wish we could have the active reload as an option for regular amps

[fleet veldt]

Sirocco's more of an acquired taste, and requires some (read: enough to prefer modular amps by default) adjustment to make it competitive.

[naive warren]

I use the set 1-7-7 (Don’t forget Madurai)

[twilit geode]

Just salivating at the idea of a active reload-buffed Pencha Scaffold blast

[fleet veldt]

Would like to see more Amp parts/designs; Amps could easily adapt to be fit on the end of Sirocco like a barrel modifier or the sorts, in the same way how a flamethrower had that bit on the end that does the ignition/burn that makes a flamer a flamer.

We're missing Entrati/Infested/Prime themed parts.

[frigid root]

yea that's the one I'm currently using for Eidos too, the alt fire for x-7-x doesn't seem too useful though

[twilit geode]

Being able to have two arcanes now is nice. But it still doesn’t stop Amps from feeling… Unfinished. Cause that’s always the feel I got from them.

A cool idea that hasn’t yet been executed well.

[naive warren]

It’s mainly used for the eidolons shields (vomvalysts not so much 1-7-7 I mean)

[twilit geode]

Honestly I was really hoping for more amp parts from the Zariman

[naive warren]

It would of made sense to at least have some get sold by Cavalero

[twilit geode]

Incarnon Amps

[fleet veldt]

IMO Amps could benefit from sidearm mods - maybe with a limitation on slots (3-4 for the Amp, Sirocco could get an extra 2?) - and access to other weapon categories.

Zariman could've introduced Incarnon Amp parts - Amps made from Void Angel wings (would honestly resemble the likes of Thorn or Osteso Striga from Destiny 2).

Otherwise, getting unique Amp-related weapons Drifter/Operator could use, like a bow made from Void Angel stuff (or just being able to use Nataruk or any 'non-explosive' bow - if not a limited range of 'lightweight' armaments ranging from AkVasto P to Baza P - and buff it with true Void damage would have been nice for progression).

Would've also been nice if Op/Drifters could use anything from daggers to swords, exempting blade+whips and weapons that would be unwieldy in unframed Tenno hands.

[edgy sierra]

I agree about operator melee. They even removed the operator's "melee" ability with focus 3.0

[fleet veldt]

And even then there's some Operator powers that emulate that - though most of the functions their melee once had were shafted into Void Sling (which still needs a little bit of work for full-radial sling so you don't get stuck trying to get diagonal motion where diagonal motion simply doesn't exist).

Personally I'd like to see Operators and Drifters get a Void-style Glaive for their melee. Something malleable that can be paired to their Amps easily and also harken to Dark Sector again.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Glaive was put as a primary-slot weapon for them, and daggers (up to nikanas and dual nikanas) being options for melee proper.

In this way Operators/Drifters could have their own gameplay subcircle which intersects with typical combat enough that they can step out of frame and still be able to hold out a bit better than just relying on their amp for everything.

And since we haven't had anything new besides Drifter so far and the 3.0 redo removing things again, it would've been nice to have this sort of flexibility.

Sure it'd flow against DE wanting Op/Drifter gameplay to be 'different' but the limit of Tenno actuals having the following:
Primary slot: Glaives, light rifles (Braton, Baza, Grakata are examples), sidearms, bows (inc. Nataruk).
Amp slot:
Melee slot: Daggers, swords, nikanas. Stops at dual variants. Some attacks may drain Op/Drifter energy as a Stamina bar. Blocking attacks will drain energy because they're not in-frame.

Blocking without energy snaps you back to frame to continue blocking.

Point of these constraints is so Op/Drifter can replicate Kahl gameplay a bit and allow Drifter to feel like Drifter should.

[wraith garden]

who is the happy wall at the end of the new war?

[craggy solstice]

Did you not play the harrow quest?

[wraith garden]

yes

[craggy solstice]

You didn't?

[wraith garden]

i did but it was like 2 years ago

[craggy solstice]

The implication is that it was the man in the wall.

[wraith garden]

ew

thats kinda creepy

[cyan crest]

Couldn't be less subtle tbh

[edgy sierra]

its as subtle as my allies running into a mission all guns blazing when i wanted to do stealth

[languid torrent]

It's as subtle as that one guy with a truck lifted five feet off the ground, using headlights strong enough to blind the fool he's tailgating, at constant rollover risk, getting 4 miles to the gallon, complaining about fuel prices, and continuing to use said truck for everything ever.

[distant crater]

Man I thought teshin was the only one who died

[north trail]

The only thing that could have made it more obvious is if he shouted "rap tap tap" or smth

[zenith jacinth]

That was rell tho

[dry vine]

Is it required/recommended to craft Paracesis before War?

[desert aurora]

no but if u can build iit its a great sword

help needed in new war sientants mars & earth

need advice

[cyan crest]

The archons?

[desert aurora]

yes

your helping already

[cyan crest]

You can find Amar among his clones using the radar ability of the drifter

You can bypass Boreal's heal with the smoke bomb

[desert aurora]

oh ok

i use the time to heal

[cyan crest]

Yeah but they heal too during those special attacks

[desert aurora]

he has a heeal ?

ok

snake dead

[cyan crest]

Amar heals when he spawns clones, Boreal heals when he does that screech thing that pushes you backwards

[desert aurora]

where does the smoke bomb go ?

ok

on him ?

[cyan crest]

Where you want to go so it bypasses the effect of the push iirc
If that doesn't work you can spam roll until you're close enough to hit him with an arrow

[desert aurora]

ok

ta

and mr wolf u say radar

[cyan crest]

Yep

[desert aurora]

ok ty sir / mam

./ cephalon

[cyan crest]

No problem

Also yeah Cephalon is fine

[median creek]

Are Liches still considered spoilers?

[high otter]

But may I call you Fog?

[high otter]

I don't think so...

[desert aurora]

im still getting destroyed by both archons earth and mars, the radar isnt seeming to id him

but its more just dodging im having issue with

[jagged crane]

Smoke bomb and the roll button are your best friend as drifter

[bold smelt]

So does the giant finger in my railjack get a back story at some point?

Just spent all night building it and when I go inside there's this big finger. I'm like ok 🤨

[high otter]

Hit x when you're near it

[amber terrace]

Guncle Cavalero confirmed? (This is a line from a Void Armageddon mission lol)

[jolly quiver]

What is void armagedon

[frozen rune]

Rifts in the fabric of reality you gotta seal with floating blue goo

[jolly quiver]

Oh

[thick jolt]

Tower defense mode

[thick jolt]

Thats void flood i think

[jolly quiver]

Oh like similar to the angles of zaramin quest?

[thick jolt]

Angels of zariman was the introductory quest to the 3 new zariman modes so yes

[jolly quiver]

Ah

[zenith jacinth]

It's wally's finger. The backstory is in albrecht's logs

[supple dagger]

You guys think we'll get to see drifter and the operator interact more during duviri I really enjoy their dynamic in the new war

[zenith jacinth]

Considering that duviri is happening before/during the first part of tnw, that is very unlikely

[supple dagger]

anyway I thought umbra would have had a bit more importance during quests after the sacrifice

Did DE forget about him?

[thick jolt]

they didnt want people to be locked to umbra

which i think is better as i dont really enjoy gothcalibur

[graceful zodiac]

No, but he's not gonna be getting any special treatment

[supple dagger]

I mean I'd at least like it if they made a landing craft decoration of umboi just walking around your ship

Like one of the roombas

[neon yarrow]

Personally Excal Umbra feels like some kind of prototype prime trend. Or the prime variants were prototypes for umbrals. Time scaling for umbra is a little weird on when he was 'made'. So... if he was made as a prototype it would make for a fun twist to have other umbral variants for other frames to exist, even if the likelyhood of that is slim to absolutely negative infinite. I mean would be a little fun to have more frames than spectered loadouts follow you around, since they'd possibly be a little more powerful in the long term, and give us a longer fighting chance when paired with a specter loadout in later times of missions.

[stone glade]

I just bought natah for the lols but the name doesn’t change from margulis ?

[obtuse gyro]

too bad he aint a prototype

not to mention the sentient frame function that umbra has rn is terrible because it deletes the buffs you have on him

[balmy storm]

The name is permanent

[stone glade]

that’s a little disappointing.

[balmy storm]

At least you can change the skin

[stone glade]

I think the name should change too. That makes sense to me yanno?

v.v

[neon yarrow]

I mean personal will, on par with a prime variant. I just would like more Umbra variants and of course touching up on the effect if thats a bug or unintentional side effect. Since having like a Trinity Umbra, or Oberon Umbra would definately make going tenno even more survivable. Or even give significantly more dps potential.

[balmy storm]

It doesn’t change for story reasons
Her name is who she is essentially

[twilit geode]

If I’m not mistaken, the choice to choose her name literally gives you a warning that it’s permanent. Sooooo…

[frozen rune]

I chose Margulis since that was who she was built to replace. "The Lotus" is just what she was made into, and Natah is her base sentient. But Margulis is the first one who cared for us (also aesthetically she is more pleasing)

[steep delta]

I chose Natah because Sentients go brrrrrrr and stuff

[astral crypt]

Do you guys use camp or orbiter and why?

[supple dagger]

I use camp now mainly because it's convenient to get to Kahl but I'd prefer if I could just use my orbiter

[astral crypt]

Yeah, I also prefer orbiter but I like how Kahl is turning it into an actual “camp.” Basically I like the story behind the camp but the orbiter feels more compact and convenient to me

[graceful zodiac]

That would make sense....if that was a choice she made herself

[supple dagger]

I chose natah because controller drift 😢

[astral crypt]

Depending on where you are you can send in your joycons to be repaired free

Warframe gave me drift both times I got it 😂

[supple dagger]

I just stopped using them all together

I now use a GameCube controller

[astral crypt]

TBH the GameCube controller is probably more comfortable

[supple dagger]

It most definitely is

I use it for all my games

[astral crypt]

Yeah, the only downfall in my book is lack of motion control

Motion control for war frame on switch is great

[supple dagger]

I can't stand motion controls it gives me a bigger tumor then that thing growing on my Mesa

[astral crypt]

Lol well I guess it isn’t for everyone, I personally think it’s the next best thing to mouse and keyboard when it comes to aiming

[supple dagger]

Fair enough

[twilit geode]

GameCube controllers might be the peak of gaming controller design.

[high otter]

That makes sense.
I personally chose Lotus for what it represents.
To me, Natah represents the palpable truth of the situation (hence the sun alignment)
And Margullis represents what the tenno kids unconsciously desire, as well as her desire to nurture (hence the moon)
Then there's the lotus, that represents the fact that she accepted that she's not entirely Natah and certainly not Margullis, and so, now has her own identity.

[inner mica]

Spoiler: Captain Vor

[cyan crest]

But sun is emotion and moon is pragmatism, this interpretation mixes the two

[high otter]

Jungian style?

[edgy sierra]

they mixed it up halfway through

[cyan crest]

It's been consistently that since the sacrifice, in war within it was more good and bad

Let me get the litany of the Dax real quick

three the weaving ways.

Cool water flows,
the moon behind a cloud;
To the receptive mind
All things come in time.

Sun at mid-heaven,
Sovereign above all;
Mind in firm action
Commits without reflecting.

Between sun and moon
Unfolds a winding path;
Not by one Way alone
Is Mastery achieved.

Let me explain, Child. The words I speak to you have purpose. The choices you've been forced to make have not attuned you to 'good' nor 'evil', but to older, less subjective principles. You must find comfort in your choices, for your enemies will provide you none. The road ahead will be one that requires more choices of you, Child. Be ready. ```

[high otter]

That's nice

But it's hard for me to properly paint the sun and the moon

The neutral one is pretty obvious, though. You are in a state of balance. Most neutral decisions are about control and acceptance.

[cyan crest]

Draw two circles, paint one yellow and one Grey with holes

[high otter]

I what going to draw a piece of cheese

[cyan crest]

But anyway yeah, sun is big emotion, moon is small emotion

Neutral is like
Medium emotion

[high otter]

Like, the conscious emotion and moon is the subconscious emotion?

[heavy grail]

It's about Balance.

[edgy sierra]

Sun is passion and emotion, moon is logic and calmness

[cyan crest]

More like moon is that one edgy guy who says emotions make you weak and is all grey and only cares about results and stuff

[heavy grail]

Also known as Yin and Yang

Nope. Try again

[cyan crest]

?

[heavy grail]

Poor analogy, but in your analogy, Sun/Strength would be the Results/Force persona, Moon the Dreamer

Not exactly Yen/Yang, but in your example context

[high otter]

Which is weird because moon chooses Margullis which is basically the emotion talking

[cyan crest]

But it's not the tenno choosing, it is Lotus

[edgy sierra]

.

[high otter]

Yup
Still, it's the moon

[slim holly]

Don't quite agree but ok

[high otter]

I guess we all have our own idea of the story

[cyan crest]

I think it represents her ignoring the emotions of the to her 2 voices and doing what she thinks will be best for the tenno

[heavy grail]

I chose Margolis, bc I can't strange a traitor, regardless of her personal reasons, Lotus is a Traitor...
She betrayed the Sentients for her own delusions.

[high otter]

Fair enough

I just liked the lotus aesthetic

[heavy grail]

I admit I don't know 100% of their backstory, though

[slim holly]

Sure. But Margulis is the one I would never be able to choose. Literally all through The Sacrifice that is what ballas wanted

[heavy grail]

Yh, Lotus looks cool...

[high otter]

Even though NW really

[cyan crest]

Again we're missing the part where it is her choosing her own path and new identity

[edgy sierra]

Thats exactly why I want her. To spite him

[high otter]

She's finally alive but he's being turned into Ash

[edgy sierra]

Cause I'm petty like that

[slim holly]

I don't know. She chose to be Lotus, I think

[obtuse gyro]

I'm guessing you missed the bit where Lotus is the result of ballas trying to shove margulis into natah? And then making it extremely unclear whether her "betrayal" of the sentients was because she wanted kids or because margulis couldnt hurt the kids

[cyan crest]

She can choose to be whoever you want

[heavy grail]

Lotus was, and I think secretly still is, at least in her heart, with Ballas

[edgy sierra]

she can be dying as well if thats what you want

[cyan crest]

Lotus only accepted to be with Ballas after he did that pulse thing and took her wires off

[high otter]

After she kissed the life out of him, I tend to doubt that

[cyan crest]

I mean that's only a skin and not a name so I don't think it counts

[heavy grail]

@obtuse gyro Y, I didn't "Miss" that, but I didn't know that. Big difference.

[edgy sierra]

Eidolon Lotus isn't a name?

[cyan crest]

That's missing it

[cyan crest]

No

[high otter]

I liked eidolon lotus all angry and stuff

[heavy grail]

Not Knowing is not Missing.

[cyan crest]

It is since it's a part of the story you missed

[heavy grail]

I can't argue with illogical arguments.

[cyan crest]

Alright...?

[heavy grail]

Really? When was I told this?
Were you there?

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, the only way for you to not have known this was if you missed it

[high otter]

[obtuse gyro]

because it was there during the ropalolyst fight

[cyan crest]

And the last fight in New war

[high otter]

The story from the ropalolyst fight gave me some goosebumps

[edgy sierra]

thats probably why. more focused on not dying than boss taunts

[heavy grail]

You Presume I listened, and didn't have my tunes jamming...
I don't care what she had to say...
Anyone speak louder than words.

[cyan crest]

To quote Lotus: "I remember my old self dissolving beneath your hands. Lua."

[obtuse gyro]

So you didnt listen... and missed it

[cyan crest]

Then you missed it

[heavy grail]

@obtuse gyro again, can't argue with illogical ppl.
You can't Troll me.
Go away.

[cyan crest]

Wh
What?

[obtuse gyro]

mans must be looking in a mirror

[slim holly]

Ok calm down. What is he missing @cyan crest ?

[cyan crest]

There was a part of the story that was presented to you
You didn't listen
You missed it

[obtuse gyro]

@slim holly

[slim holly]

I don't think "missed" is the correct label to this argument. It is a different interpretation. The same can be said about Ballas wanting her to be Margulis... Or the brother wanting her to be Natah, imo

She was born as Natah, pushed to become Margulis and eventually came out as Lotus

[obtuse gyro]

its not an interpretation it was shoved into our face when ballas was whining during the final battle of TNW

[cyan crest]

He literally said he didn't know cause he didn't listen
That's missing stuff

[slim holly]

So hence her becoming Margulis which is exactly what Ballas wanted is good...? That is up to interpretation, I would say

[obtuse gyro]

that wasnt the arguement

he claimed that lotus is a traitor because she chose the tenno due to her own personal delusions, something that Ballas tells us was due to him instead

[cyan crest]

Not the particular one we were discussing, no

Incredibly helpful for the conversation

[swift pond]

Spoiler alert
In the spoiler channel

[distant crater]

I picked Margulis

[distant crater]

Now i'm starting to regret choosing Margulis

[cyan crest]

It is as valid as any other choice tbh

[wicked iron]

Oh, oops. Sorry, just woke up and saw the spoiler alert thing. <_> Brain tired. My mistake for the deletions, folks. Thought I was in gameplay. XD

But yep, all three are valid, and no choice is "wrong." 😄

[slim holly]

Don't worry about it. As I pointed out in my earlier (deleted) message, in the end she is all those three personas. It is all up to what she chooses to be from that point on. A vengeful sentient, a caring mother or a vengeful mother as I put out

[wicked iron]

Also important to note is that Ballas wanted a Margulis who would discard the Tenno and just be blindly loyal and in love with him. Even if she becomes Margulis as her primary persona, she is still like the Margulis who rejected him.

[distant crater]

Good point

[obtuse gyro]

Which is why she Darling in the Franxx OP1'd him, which at the time, and still is, extremely hilarious to me

Dude dropped the ball on the same thing twice

[swift pond]

Counter thesis: every choice is wrong. All are, in some fashion or another, identities manufactured for a fucntion outside of Lotus' wellbeing as a person (one was a weapon, one was a waifu and the other was a figurehead for her kids).

[wet hearth]

give me a spoiler

[swift pond]

Best By: Jul 54th, 202020202020

It'll take a while, but it'll get there.

[naive warren]

By then will we be able to enter Warframe in real life? (Eidolons irl experience in 4D)

[swift pond]

That's spoiler territory I'm afraid. Time travellers code and all that.

[naive warren]

I will find a way

[proper harness]

But is it time travel if all of time happens at once

[swift pond]

Are you really moving if you're everywhere at once?

No, because you're sat on the Void Chair™️ all day.

[languid torrent]

Hey, pinging you real quick because given the last convo, you might find this interesting.

Quoth 32.0.7:
Removed some Kuva Lich name generation options.

[obtuse gyro]

you did it!

[naive warren]

[blazing flame]

Yeah they changed it!

I'm so happy!!! @languid torrent

[slim holly]

That is a nice action you did

🙂

[rain otter]

Very nice.

[kind spoke]

what is its name now?

also, heck, i was not ready to face Wolf lmao, tried to remove his veil and promptly died hahaha

[distant crater]

One was a waifu yea I wonder who that would be mmm hmmm yup

[distant crater]

SARYNNNN

[distant crater]

Wally?

[naive warren]

The Man In The Wall (we call him Wally most of the time)

[supple dagger]

It’s just another name for The Man In The Wall

[sullen shuttle]

Imagine in future story we get to control what hunhow does like excali umbra

And we could get hunhow as a warframe

Or operator of kind

[cyan crest]

Hunhow is ship-sized being, how would that be playable?

Forgetting even that he's entombed below uranus

[swift pond]

Uh, lads, is it normal for Profit Taker to die 2 phases early?

[frail nymph]

Devstream trailer Rev Prime has Eidolon energy, so this line might be retconned for good...

Now Nakak must just be wrong about assuming that getting caught by the Eido gave him characteristic powers. Rev was the warden keeping the eido's ghostlike form at bay, was even an anchor that could bring it back to life.

Rev prime and rev must've had the Eidolon abilities before getting lost, since the empire collapsed before the original Great Sentient even died.

Unless of course, his abilities look vastly different from the base form, no more Vomvalyst heads and stuff

[zenith jacinth]

I wants

[swift pond]

Tatsu Prime

[prisma helm]

that should probably be the case, maybe we are getting the Warden's original form rather than straight Revenant, using pure void energy rather than eidolon probably

[wild wind]

I hope so, that'd be cool

[balmy storm]

I like his popped collar, makes me think they thought of his original theme

[rain otter]

The answer could be like

"He was Made as the OROKIN EMPIRE WAS FALLING"