spoiler-chat

[flat shadow]

Oh yeah. This is the spoilers channel. Forgot where I was. But then Mother responded that it was just a shard of glass, and (indicated to me) not part of Albrecht's equipment at all

[cyan crest]

Oh, found the name of the book they have together "the palimpsest of space-time"

[cyan crest]

Mmmm
I see

Albrecht has another book, "beyond the wall of Lohk"

[scarlet basalt]

On twitter,they've changed to the first logo. White and blue.
Maybe duviri paradox is really the "beggining" of Warframe ? :O

[flat shadow]

Because if it had been from her father's equipment, even 'just' a piece of junk still can have sentimental value. I have a box from my Mom. It's just a simple cedar box, it's not valuable at all. But it's from my mom, so it still has value to me

[uneven epoch]

if albrecht left that shard specifically for his daughter, maybe that could mean it was some sort of riddle?

[flat shadow]

But he didn't. It's just a shard of glass she picked up

[uneven epoch]

oh k

[cyan crest]

Yeah but I think they said that cause she was unhealthy about how much she was clinging onto that shard

[uneven epoch]

also, albrecht was blind after experiment?

or is it me

[scarlet basalt]

Seems not but he love his neural sentry looking mask

[uneven epoch]

vr helmet

[flat shadow]

I can see your point. I don't agree. Her obsession was unhealthy, but if it had actually been a part of his equipment it's at least understandable.

[scarlet basalt]

Wait he really has a corrupted's mask
Why tho ?

[uneven epoch]

yes

[cyan crest]

Seems just for fashion

[scarlet basalt]

Yeah,he has a painting,but also representation of himself wearing this corrupted mask...
It's so strange,maybe neural sentry will have more lore lol

[cyan crest]

In his painting you can see the mask in a table

[uneven epoch]

totally not in duviri unless duviri will explain wally

[cyan crest]

It could be to hide his eyes after he was blinded

[scarlet basalt]

This really make the neural sentries even more strange in a way :o

[cyan crest]

It doesn't have to be related to sentry other than its looks

[scarlet basalt]

I Hope so

[uneven epoch]

i got my first vulpaphyla today, and named it Kalymos

bc i love lore

[cyan crest]

But Kalymos was a kavat tho

[uneven epoch]

vulpaphylas are infested kavats

[cyan crest]

Are they tho? They seem more canine to me

[graceful zodiac]

Not quite, no.

[uneven epoch]

one sex

[cyan crest]

W h a t

[uneven epoch]

you know what i mean 😊

[autumn turret]

they are mechanically infested kavats

such blurbs should not be taken as lore

they use kavat mods and skeleton

[cyan crest]

They're also obviously canines

[autumn turret]

foxes specifically

[cyan crest]

Ye

[uneven epoch]

[robust summit]

They give me jackal vibes.

[balmy badger]

Who has summoned me?

Sorry, had to.

[north trail]

Do you see them spinning around with big laser walls?

[robust summit]

No, like the animal. Look at Anubis from Egyptian myth.

[north trail]

Ik it was a joke

[robust summit]

I know.

I’m just that guy.

[scarlet basalt]

Your dog doesn't do that ?

[autumn turret]

and it was definately intentional because predasites are catlike,.. with depfiniately egyptian inspiration, mostly the sphinx

[cyan crest]

I mean one of them is the pharaoh predasite lol

And like, sphinx, and all that

Egyptian

[scarlet basalt]

What if we have Albrecht body part scattered around deimos and we need to reconstruct him ?

[uneven epoch]

what drifter fashion is lore accurate? zariman suit, or drifter suit?

[uneven epoch]

isnt it stupid

[autumn turret]

medjay is also an egyptian ruling class thing

[scarlet basalt]

Always but that could ne funny if we have to do osiris's thing

[cyan crest]

Both

[autumn turret]

why would either not be

[cyan crest]

Drifters and operators are avatars, and since they have access to both suits, both are lore accurate

[uneven epoch]

in gameplay we saw drifter suit, but 2019 trailer had zariman suit, and because of that i feel uncomfortable
i wanna be as much lore accurate in drifters fashion as i can

[cyan crest]

If DE wanted only one, they'd force you into one in quests

[autumn turret]

thats not how lore works

[cyan crest]

All are lore accurate, you can modify them as you want

[autumn turret]

2019 trailer also wasnt for new war

also we do see the zariman suit in gameplay too

[cyan crest]

The lore doesn't prevent you from taking a grineer's armor so that suit is also lore accurate

[autumn turret]

you have very weird ideas of what lore accurate means

[uneven epoch]

i am

[autumn turret]

do you not customize your frame's looks

[thick jolt]

Drifter suit is just a cloth over zariman suit

[rigid yoke]

They might mean adult Zariman suit? Idk

[uneven epoch]

my prime frames are just their satured default colors, since primes are orokin relics

[scarlet basalt]

My headcannon is that the infested have an enormous amount of knowoledge through the consumption of matter and data that they have eaten 😭
Would love if this is lore accurate

[autumn turret]

if you dont want to customize thats your perogative

we're not gonna tell you whats canon because there isnt

[thick jolt]

They did manage to create infiltration units so....

[scarlet basalt]

They're learning...
Maybe they're amongst us ?

[uneven epoch]

ye, i know, but drifter suit doesnt look nice in duviri imo, but also its kinda lore? idk

[balmy badger]

Screw lore-accuracy, embrace Voidshell suit.

[autumn turret]

what

[rigid yoke]

Kinda wasted on Duviri tho. Black and white

[autumn turret]

you arent in duviri and you probably cant customize that while you are in duviri

[cyan crest]

It's also part of the lore

Like Hombask has lines about it and even emailed you about it

[autumn turret]

at least not during the quest at least

[balmy badger]

I know, I was joking.

[uneven epoch]

id prefer zariman suit than voidshell suit
lmao voidshell is reskin of zariman

[balmy badger]

Apparently strike-through text isn't enough to imply sarcasm anymore...

[thick jolt]

Voidshells prolly look best in duviri since you can change texture prolly the only thing you could tell the difference of in duviri

[cyan crest]

Yeah but the helmet is from Kamen rider
Also uh
Materials and stuff

[scarlet basalt]

She used Amazon, we should thanks her for the gift tbh

[rigid yoke]

Or do like me and go monochrome already + strangers mask

[autumn turret]

its a reskin that looks completely different

[cyan crest]

The real reskin is Nora's outfit

[rigid yoke]

For real. Confused me for a second

[uneven epoch]

pretty much the same
but i like that you can make golden operator/drifter

[autumn turret]

not really

[thick jolt]

Well its supposed to be similar since its a void affected zariman suit

[uneven epoch]

it has the same mesh with a little of changes, if we dont look at helmet

[cyan crest]

It also has lights

[balmy badger]

Voidshell suit is the closest thing I can get to a sleek power-armor look. The Fortuna stuff just wasn't cutting it enough.

[uneven epoch]

screw all of that, embrace ceno suit

[autumn turret]

it is definately not the same mesh on the helmet

[real niche]

The patterns aren't even remotely close

[uneven epoch]

because its drifter suits

[cyan crest]

Lolmao

[real niche]

Are you talking about OP Zariman suit?

[autumn turret]

the 2 are clearly inspired but they also both closely follow the human form

[uneven epoch]

yes

[autumn turret]

and the helmet has the same mid ridge but the face is different

and it unfolds completely differently

[uneven epoch]

unfolds totally better than original one

[autumn turret]

i still think drifter's best outfit is "none"

[real niche]

I mean even looking at OP Zariman vs Voidshell it's pretty much the same pattern as the Drifter comparison

None Drifter left beef is amazing

[autumn turret]

not saying no outfits are good im saying the "none" outfit is the best

[cyan crest]

I like the grineer one in some situations, like I take it on earth and Mars missions

[uneven epoch]

hitman

[autumn turret]

i may feel different if i had the prime suit

but i dont buy prime access

[cyan crest]

But the one I use the most is a mix of the drifter, zariman and voidshell

[rigid yoke]

Immersive. I like that

[uneven epoch]

prime suits for drifters

when

[autumn turret]

for context the "none" outfit

[autumn turret]

harrow prime access

[cyan crest]

Sister ephemera, lucky

[uneven epoch]

i missed that one huh

[balmy badger]

DE is supposedly working on porting the other Prime Access suits to Drifter.

[wild wind]

Shoot that is better

[uneven epoch]

i hope so

[autumn turret]

i have all the energy sister ephems

[uneven epoch]

i have killed one lich and one sister so far

[rigid yoke]

I'm tryna convert mine but Cuhkto doesnt seem to want to appear

[scarlet basalt]

Balanced, not like warframe

[autumn turret]

lets see my count

17 liches 32 sisters

[uneven epoch]

thata crazy

[balmy badger]

Sisters are so much quicker to deal with.

[autumn turret]

you can tell which one i farmed more ephems for

[balmy badger]

Less murmurs needed.

[autumn turret]

only 2 conversions and 4 trades of sisters

[scarlet basalt]

Yeah it feel so good stabbing their dog and seeing the thing getting full faster

[uneven epoch]

wanna trickster ephem

[autumn turret]

2 conversions 2 trades for liches

[uneven epoch]

whats the lore behind arcanes?

[cyan crest]

Magicky thing that does
Magic stuff
Magically

[uneven epoch]

void things*
void stuff*
using void powers*

[scarlet basalt]

No

[uneven epoch]

why no

[autumn turret]

similar lore to mods

except probably not by samodeous

[scarlet basalt]

There's no way i reduced my tridolon to arcanes

[uneven epoch]

mods are tenno things, no questions

[autumn turret]

no they're cephalon things

[cyan crest]

Actually no, all factions seem to use them, and samodeus made them

[uneven epoch]

some of the mods are orokin things

[autumn turret]

there are primed mods yes

[uneven epoch]

did he?

[autumn turret]

yes

[cyan crest]

He says as much

[autumn turret]

he also makes rivens

[uneven epoch]

maybe rivens only

[scarlet basalt]

So it imply that Kahl can do a 9999 survival mission

[rigid yoke]

Barely the only thing he said in fact

[autumn turret]

no...

[cyan crest]

He actually says he made all the mods

[uneven epoch]

no way i missed that

[autumn turret]

his entire character is "the guy who made mods"

[uneven epoch]

how on earth did i miss that much

[scarlet basalt]

Obscure lore tbh

[cyan crest]

It was an old message, I don't think it's in the game anymore

[rigid yoke]

It was like 2 mails, I don't blame you

[autumn turret]

this is his entire list of things he has said

[scarlet basalt]

maybe travelling back in time with the void and he will get that message 🤔
I mean in the new war somehow we went back into the pre/while zariman jump unless tenno went back into memories

[autumn turret]

what

[cyan crest]

W h a t

[uneven epoch]

it was memories

[autumn turret]

does noone think "maybe dont create wild and unreasonable answers and just go the simple route"

[scarlet basalt]

tbh i was joking but then i remembered this was a memories.
And the void just throw us into the nightmare that is the zariman

[uneven epoch]

if we have lore behind mods, what about arcanes then
i guess it have to do smth with void(zariman) and sentients(orbs + eidolons)

[scarlet basalt]

onkko reduced an eidolon into a arcane kappa

[uneven epoch]

onkko is a powerful

also, he has face

[scarlet basalt]

No....I can't see that guy without a mask 😭

[uneven epoch]

and dead quill in 1 phase of profit taker has a face

and a GIANT spoiler: its onkko face

idk how to make text a spoiler

[cyan crest]

It's not onkko tho

[uneven epoch]

but onkkos face

[cyan crest]

Onkko is alive

[uneven epoch]

but dead quill have his face

[cyan crest]

It's probably a reused model cause they already had onkko's model made and just reused it

[cyan crest]

It is not onkko tho

[uneven epoch]

de lazy

[cyan crest]

Why would they make an unique model for a dead guy you see like 5 minutes

[uneven epoch]

5 sec

because of peoples like me

[cyan crest]

Well they didn't

And it's not onkko

[uneven epoch]

its not onkko, but its his face

[cyan crest]

And it doesn't really mean anything

[uneven epoch]

but its still his face

[cyan crest]

Reused models for a guy you see dead for 5 secs

[uneven epoch]

and this model has onkkos face

[cyan crest]

Because it is reused

[uneven epoch]

and onkko is alive

[cyan crest]

Indeed

[uneven epoch]

but i cant be sure if its true

bc dead body have his face

[cyan crest]

bc it's reused

bc they already had made a Quill model

and reused it

[graceful zodiac]

They clearly don't intend to be serious, so just leave it

[wild copper]

Trolls be trolling

[final pebble]

i think all the ceteans look like onkko tbh. uncomfortably squat frog people

[torpid lantern]

That's so mean

[wicked iron]

Lol

[quick bolt]

It's the truth

In new war the kid that erra tell not to be afraid is the exact equivalent to a frog

[torpid lantern]

Frog people,
Noodley arm people
Robot head people
Tube people
What is the universe coming to

[robust summit]

Well we do play as metal robot people…

Run by “normal” people.

[torpid lantern]

Metal virus people run by space magic people 🤣

[vital creek]

Metal virus people run by space magic people ordered around by flower lady

[sharp spoke]

Metallic puppets made from space cancer, controlled by interdimensional superpowered child soldiers, directed by a robot cosplaying as a dead rich lady

[rain otter]

Machine Flower Lady.

[final pebble]

it's the child soldier part that the game just sort of glosses over someone put these children in therapy

[robust summit]

Last time that happened we fought in at least one war and almost committed genocide.

A child support check made out in deadly weapons and trauma!

[frail nymph]

I doubt therapy is gonna do much in the fact of centuries of fighting in a War but might as well try

[frail nymph]

When did you ever even see Onkko's face?

[obtuse gyro]

Hearsay if you shove your head deep enough you can clip through, but tis but a rumour

[frail nymph]

I mean then it's not Onkko's head in the first place, it's a placeholder...

[iron quartz]

Nano machines

[vale helm]

idk if anyone's talked bout this or not but duviri drufter has somatics like the operator but our current drifter doesn't, lore implications that its 2 different drifters or is it just a retroactive change like the ability to add a beard?

[cyan crest]

Retcon, since they're probably adding them as a cosmetic for drifter

No reason for them to be 2 drifters

Specially since the new war specifies we'll be exploring "the paradox of the drifter's origins"

[supple dagger]

Outta curiosity, does anyone else prefer playing as the drifter over the operator?

[loud kayak]

I've dripped up my Operator so hard that I usually use her instead, but once the Drifter gets more cosmetics I'll probably start using her.

[cyan crest]

I am more attached to my op cause it's the one I've been playing since the second dream, I just don't know the drifter enough to like use them that much, they're not the same as my operstor who I've been using for much longer
This said, duviri most likely will change this

[night pewter]

idk, drifter has no drip so i dont use it

[supple dagger]

Maybe it's cause I'm a newer player that I didn't get as attached to the op. I'm interested in learning more about the drifter tho

[night pewter]

yeah youre probably fairly new if you were born just over a month ago

[supple dagger]

Yeah just learned how to type a few days ago actually

[night pewter]

nice

you're learning stuff pretty fast

[supple dagger]

One thing I haven't picked up yet is being good at WF

[night pewter]

damn

well dont worry even adults and older kids are slow on that

[supple dagger]

True

[barren drum]

Void angels on void armageddon be like : im hungry >:(

[fleet veldt]

Parazon the Angel.

[barren drum]

I wonder what flavour is that juice from the eternal relic on zariman?

[night pewter]

what eternal relic

[frail nymph]

The reliquary drive. The copy of Wally's finger.

[wraith sigil]

Railjacks have that too just saying

[frail nymph]

Yes but the one on RJ is safely contained

[wraith sigil]

Now that u mention it, the one the zariman has is exposed and now the angels are trying to “eat” it

[barren drum]

But what flavour is the juice coming out of it???

[cunning copper]

The one on the Zariman is also many times larger

[barren drum]

I want to drink the zariman juice

[wraith sigil]

Tuvul: if u want to turn into an angel, be my guest

[barren drum]

Im just thirsty

And maybe it tastes like apple juice

[swift pond]

I'd venture that it tastes more like fcpffhebwoxgttrskfs47&j

But you know, educated guess is all.

[cyan crest]

It tastes like the color teal

[scarlet basalt]

They're using the default logo OMG they're going to rework the entire Warframe game kappa

[swift pond]

It'll be the exact same, except for the re-addition of the stamina meter for Warframes.

[fleet veldt]

Logo change?

[swift pond]

The Discord pic changed to the default at least.

[flat shadow]

Take a closer look. Not the same.

[supple dagger]

With a very small difference

[frail nymph]

Wat the difference?

[flat shadow]

The background is different.

Looks like clouds, fog, or cloth waving in a breeze.

[swift pond]

So no difference, effectively.

[flat shadow]

small difference == no difference

[frail nymph]

Didn't the original have some noise similar to that?

[swift pond]

Don't consider it to be all that significant.

So no meaningful change.

[flat shadow]

no, original was a solid white background.

[swift pond]

Not arguing that it isn't different, I just don't think it's worth acknowledgement.

[flat shadow]

I disagree, but ymmv.

[scarlet basalt]

the void is blue.
The warframe logo is blue.
White/grey background
Duviri confirmed

[cyan crest]

The void is teal
Alright teal is blue but it's also green

[fleet veldt]

Void is [myriad of oceanic colours ranging from 'what you think you see' to spectrums outside of eye comprehension, typically including flavours from deep sea blue to salty shore teal to nuclear dump green; though may include colours you cannot name or see].

[final pebble]

as my wife once said, "The void feels like what the ocean dreams of being."

[swift pond]

The Void is whatever DE reckons it is, and they can't be wrong because it's Void.

[robust summit]

The void is a thing, where the laws of physics go to die.

[echo basalt]

Duviri is proof of that

[pulsar axle]

Everything is whatever de says it is

[pearl karma]

Is the fight supposed to happen in reversed direction after the first slam

Erra just walks around me to the left side lmfao

[cyan crest]

It really doesn't matter to which side you hit him

But uhm yeah that also happened to me in my last replay

The scene progresses normally

[pulsar token]

Tnw?

[pearl karma]

the new wisp

also now that the telepads are working, I teleported straight to spaceport without finding the kdrive first lol

DE please fix

ha

Can't take any

[balmy badger]

Oh, oh no...

Guess that one slipped through the cracks...

Guess they're gonna have to disable the telepads during TNW.

[pearl karma]

also the machinery behind the display keeps blinking, is that intentional for dramatic effect or sth

I play in lowest possible setting so I don't know if it's because of the low quality or just glitching graphic Oh wait nah it's just the corpus forgetting to pay electricity bills

[swift pond]

Every penny counts

[balmy badger]

If your playing on the classic renderer, that causes issues with some of the newer quests.

Though, Rebecca said in a recent interview that the classic renderer is close to getting phased out/removed. It's holding them back.

So anyone that's playing on a potato is going to have to lower their resolution/resolution scale even further.

[pearl karma]

800x600 here I come

Wait that means I should start switching to wnhanced engines right

[balmy badger]

Nothing stopping you from keeping your current settings if you don't mind small issues like that.

Also, if you're already down to like, 720p, reduce the resolution scale slider instead of the actual resolution, so you can keep the 16:9 aspect ratio, and UI elements will still render at full res.

[frail nymph]

Weird... didn't happen to me in my latest one... and that was less than a month ago

[thin path]

I mean it makes sense, there's only so much backwards compatibility you can reasonably support before it starts holding you back.

[fleet veldt]

I can imagine that people who can't play the full PC version of Warframe may use Bluestacks to run the mobile one, when its available.

[scarlet basalt]

is he dabbing ?

[pearl karma]

The biggest one yet

[balmy badger]

Thank you, now I can't unsee that.

[pearl karma]

Lmao the narmer regulators is affected by temporal drag of zenurik and magus lockdown

Get stunned lol

[pearl karma]

Pretty sure this is not how you normally handle a giant sword

transferring back into wf doesn't help

Well I guess I'm the hercules beetle then

[pulsar token]

How'd you feel when Kahl segment ended?

[pearl karma]

Too sadge

But then, we slaughter like hundreds of millions of Grineers everyday, server wise

So I feel less sadge

also the thing is still on my back at archon, I guess it stays until the end of the quest

[cyan crest]

Not if it matches the one in the Saya's vigil photo

[valid fable]

Finally
Melee operator

[uneven epoch]

the fact that xaku deluxe comes out with duviri and that similar mask hehe
i need xaku, and bunch of plat to buy deluxe bundle as soon it drops

also, still three "progenitors": brown pots, white pots and blue stones

leverian for xaku deluxe pls

[scarlet basalt]

Ballas somehow stuck the paracesis inside of you after he sent you back to "hell"

[turbid flare]

just doing the new war and am at the part where youre in a balloon on cetus, but for some reason the ascend/descend prompt shows a controller button. tried every button but nothing on my keyboard works :p

anyone else have this/know how to fix it??

[fleet veldt]

You might have a controller plugged in. Try checking your control settings.

[turbid flare]

i dont even own one, should i just suck it up and exit?

welp to anyone who has the same problem just resetting worked ^^,,

[balmy storm]

A xaku leverian is a great idea tbh
Doubt it’ll happen though

[supple dagger]

It would be cool tho if they released more Leverian frames

[chrome slate]

What is a leverian frame?

[supple dagger]

Frames that are in the Leverian museum thing

Like Gauss, Lavos, Atlas, Nova

[chrome slate]

Well now i know about the leverian lmaooo thank you 😅

[thick jolt]

if you have a leverian frame on llvl 30 it spawns a colectible decoration card of that warframe inside the leverian

[chrome slate]

Is it just the ones you mentioned? Dont have any of em yet 😅

I have lavos built but not claimed lol

[thick jolt]

some other frames have collectible cards but there arent many and i cant remember all of them sorry

[chrome slate]

thats okay ill check wiki, thank you!!

[thick jolt]

as for the leverian ones i think you can check on the codex

[chrome slate]

More decorations for my orbiter 🤤

[thick jolt]

i have a card wall in my orbiter

[chrome slate]

Probably just gonna use the prex’ to keep stickerbombing my ballas painting

[thick jolt]

or well as close to a wall as you can get with the ammount we have

[chrome slate]

I put all my posters and cards and flat stuff on my ballas painting

[thick jolt]

lol

[chrome slate]

Eventually the whole thing will be covered 🤩 cant wait

[thick jolt]

could do like that one painting in the zariman with knives stuck to ballas painting but with throwing cards instead

[chrome slate]

Oooooh good idea thank you!!!

[thick jolt]

yay i had a good idea

[sage bough]

Stalkers reaction in old war when you ask hunhow for help is the funniest thing in the world to me

Just. "Huh?" Its so stupid

[autumn turret]

new war

[sage bough]

Blah blah same thing it was released like 2 years go

[storm yacht]

Did anyone else see this New War daily screen?

[urban saddle]

I did and I loved it, wish we had that as an optional log in screen

[storm yacht]

Yeah its so cool

Wish they did it more

[urban saddle]

Like we could pick Operator/Drifter/Warframe to be displayed against that background

[storm yacht]

Captura would be good too

[urban saddle]

True, I forgot about that 😅

[harsh elm]

In the very start of the new war, you play for a bit as a grineer soldier... In my opinion it should have been Clem

[inland umbra]

That looks way cooler

[viral palm]

Clem doesn't work for Hek tho

It wouldn't have made sense

[inland umbra]

Clem is frien not enemy

[fleet veldt]

I'd say it could've been a Converted Lich of our choosing. Would love to have a few modular stories where you get to improve your Converted Lich/Sister through various actions, teaching them how to use your Railjack as a mini-quest which leads to them being a playable Warframe substitute due to them needing surgery and a Transference Bolt because they want to get closer to you.

[supple dagger]

Playable lich would be amusing

[fleet veldt]

Yeah; plus their abilities would essentially be built on the Warframe they progenated from with different stats and reduced parkour (as in, their run would be bullet jump speed, their bullet jump would be reduced to our run speed; gravity has a greater hold on them; weapon swapping is slower - little things, but they'd get to level 40 in exchange for no aura/exilus/arcane slots).

[harsh elm]

For some reason I thought that he was, and was a secret agent or something like that, I guess I forgot the Clem lore

[fleet veldt]

Clem was a defective clone Darvo brought under his wing and they were besties since.

[harsh elm]

Ok

[supple dagger]

region chat told me he was based on a meme?

[robust summit]

He was, there was a fan comic that had Clem as the protag. DE loved it so much they brought it in. Same thing with John Prodman, from the index, and Popcorn, the moa that gets crushed under the jackal during its intro cutscene.

All ascended memes.

[supple dagger]

i'd love to read that

[flat shadow]

There are a lot of ideas in the game that originated from the fans of the game.

[autumn turret]

some of the clem comics are on the wiki page for clem

all the relevant character development stuff afaik

[supple dagger]

thanks, i'll check it out

[robust summit]

It’s a good read.

Enjoy yourself.

[autumn turret]

john prodman is also a fan character based on the events of a mission that then blew up in popularity

[still swan]

i think they should add new sentients the one in New War in Alad V lab looked really cool

[fleet veldt]

Same with Darvo.

[quartz ember]

Hi

[swift pond]

Oh, oh no, oh no did Baro make a deal with Wally to combine his inventory?!

[outer pier]

basically

[swift pond]

I fear for his (our) safety

[outer pier]

The question is what would be the consequence

[fathom skiff]

Hey yall, just made an update to a previous fan update I made regarding Operator Gameplay, hopefully you guys will check it out and leave some feedback!

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1318155-spoilers-for-the-war-within-this-is-an-update-to-a-previous-fan-update-aiming-to-make-spoiler-mode-more-engaging/

[swift pond]

Yes. 100 times yes.

[fleet veldt]

My Ordis decor is in the Dormizone. That said, Wall-Man seems to've made a trade deal with Baro by unifying all instances and giving him actual Voidy loot.

Bought all the new Ki'teer armour parts he came with this time, will likely go back and slap that on Vauban and a Ki'teer-themed Inaros when I get the chance.

[balmy storm]

I wish the cooldown on the skittergirl mod wasn’t so high :/

[swift pond]

That's Skittergirl? Glad I didn't grab it, was thinking it was our man Wally.

[balmy storm]

It seems to be, still fun tho

[harsh elm]

What differences are there between the operator and the drifter?

[swift pond]

One is taller

[fleet veldt]

Drifter from a timeline where we never had Void powers, didn't get the Wally deal, but we pulled them out of their narrative early and now they're essentially a 'second self' sharing our powers.

You learn the difference in New War and Duviri Paradox.

[balmy badger]

And rolls instead of sliding.

[fleet veldt]

You mean hop/skip/strafe? Operator with a weapon (as in, Amp) equipped does a distinct dodge animation.

[harsh elm]

But what about like... Abilities? Is it only story differences and aesthetic differences?

[balmy badger]

It looks like a slide though.

[fleet veldt]

Gameplay wise Drifter is currently no different to Operator besides being taller outside of New War quest where he has a kit of tools and access to Rumblejack and Nataruk.

Appearance-wise, currently, yeah.

I would assume as we play through Duviri we may see how Drifter made his toolkit, Sirocco, and Rumblejack.

[harsh elm]

I still don't understand why and how his pistol turned into an amp

[fleet veldt]

His pistol probably was always an amp. We'll probably figure out more of it in the past (as in, in Duviri).

[harsh elm]

That does make the most sense... Btw is the rumblejack amp better than the mote amp?

[fleet veldt]

Rumblejack is a dagger. But Sirocco - the pistol - is functionally unique among amps. A custom amp can outperform it in some ways but it can reload and is probably better depending on your playstyle as Operator/Drifter for non-Eidolon combat.

[harsh elm]

Oh never mind I meant the pistol

But is it better?

[fleet veldt]

I'd say 'depends'. Overall, it is better than a Mote, but you should be aspiring to have Amps of every type crafted, gilded, and levelled at least once (and handed back for rep) before you settle on an amp for hunting Eidolons.

[harsh elm]

I played with it for 2 minutes, and now I see why you call it "functionally unique"... It literally gives the operator a gun

[graceful zodiac]

It's better than a Mote, but is fairly blown away by any proper crafted Amp

[fleet veldt]

Exactly. The only unique thing is how it handles, and even then I'd be overjoyed if DE gave it Incarnon upgrades - which it deserves.

[simple ember]

i finished new war i still don't understand why ordis turn in to owl bot can someone tell me

[balmy badger]

He's had that body since The Sacrifice. You could faintly see it in the background of his transmissions when the Vitruvian was hooked up to him.

Just chose not to use it until then I guess. Probably got bored.

[scarlet basalt]

I'm not sure but one devstream has shown the sirocco being an incarnon weapon lol

[real niche]

That was a mockup, they said in that same stream that it wasn't going to be for Sirocco

[scarlet basalt]

sad,but it would have been cool tbh

[brittle vine]

Baro... why did you take the handshake?!

[uneven epoch]

he is erogant

[swift pond]

Wait, if he balks at the idea of other Baros why did he shake this one other Baros' hand? Unless he thought it couldn't be Baro?

[uneven epoch]

coz it wasnt another baro

[swift pond]

On him for wearing that stupid headress ig

[rigid yoke]

He mentions something along the lines of "dashing stranger", so it looked like Baro, but he probably knew it wasnt A Baro

rather A Baro in the Wall

[final pebble]

manwall can apparently look like whatever he wants to, he's not limited to mimicry

[swift pond]

And he'd be right, but wouldn't assume so for that reason I doubt.

[swift pond]

His mimickery has, presently and historically, involved copying his 'marks' so to speak. That's just how he rolls.

I'd wager he thought it was a handsome devil who was really into his wares, on account of both their eyes being under that fugly pyramid.

[rigid yoke]

With the exact same clothing?

[swift pond]

Really into his wares. We only see him selling to Warframes after all.

[cyan crest]

Baro really did just tenno himself because he didn't like different versions of himself selling different stuff
I respect that ngl

[rigid yoke]

I mean, its not like his clothing is exclusive to him. His whole deal is to sell products everyone can buy including armor looking him, so i guess his clothing is a product line too

[uneven epoch]

why only to tenno tho

[rigid yoke]

Doubt your regular human wants items from the void

[swift pond]

Because we are resource hungry goblins who will pay for anything.

[cyan crest]

Of course he didn't get the powers
So like
Dumb

[rigid yoke]

Also that. We are probably one of the few that can afford them

[cyan crest]

Hey this means Wally is still in the void

[swift pond]

Void stuff is pretty valuable though

[swift pond]

Baro's gonna start shooting Void beams at the Formorians, mark my words.

[uneven epoch]

i wonder if he can exit it by himself
wait, he can

[cyan crest]

It wasn't by himself lmao, it was the void portal Ballas opened

And like he's certainly still there from this

[rigid yoke]

I wonder if he either got a different power or the only reason we got powers was Lotuses hand, and your regular deal is just "congratulations, youre now multidimensional"

[uneven epoch]

what about wally in our orbiters then?

[cyan crest]

Hallucination

Cause we're conected to him

We're containing him, Palladino said as much

[graceful zodiac]

Baro had an entirely different deal, no reason to think he would have any powers

[rigid yoke]

Not neccesarily an hallucination but maybe a projection

[swift pond]

My man transcended time and space out of pure narcissism and desire for sweet Grofit. A worthy Corpus if I ever saw one.

[cyan crest]

Yeah, but we get it cause we're containing him, not cause he can just leave

[rigid yoke]

One thing i gotta say tho. If one of those "projections/hallucinations" got a finger cut, hes there to some capacity

[rigid yoke]

fair

[cyan crest]

That particular one was in the void and shown to a person not containing him at the moment

[rigid yoke]

Gotcha, so you say the copied appeareances are not all hallucinations neccesarily

Just ours/possibly baros

[cyan crest]

Precisely

ours would be a projection because we're containing him

[uneven epoch]

if lotus saw wally, did she saw herself on top, or our operator?

[cyan crest]

Baro would be physical because he encountered it in the void and could shake his hand, and I assume the Wally we saw in the class was also physical, cause void and handshake

[rigid yoke]

who knows. She saw "...n-nothing. nothing". So up to your imagination

[swift pond]

Nice arguement, however

Your Wall is in me.

[rigid yoke]

wha-

[swift pond]

Confusion achieved, contract complete.

[graceful zodiac]

In the end it's the usual speculation since Baro doesn't indicate they looked similar at all

[rigid yoke]

That, technically, makes Baro the third bravest mucker in the universe

[cyan crest]

It's definately Wally tho

[graceful zodiac]

Definitely Wally, just back to the usual any appearance they want

[uneven epoch]

what profit can wally get from this contract

[rigid yoke]

He said "dashing stranger"

most definitely himself. Baro would only say dashing to himself or Inaros

[uneven epoch]

why not "slinging stranger"

[rigid yoke]

He has an ego bigger than the Fomorian

[rigid yoke]

Some sweet pedestals i guess

[swift pond]

The dude literally walks into the Void just to repaint a pair of Gremlins. Of course he's insane.

[rigid yoke]

With a pair of cestras no less

[swift pond]

A true Corpus

[rigid yoke]

My guy going John Wick in the void

[cyan crest]

I swear to the void...

[rigid yoke]

I just got it. God damn it

[scarlet basalt]

Wdym,Always shake stranger's hand

[swift pond]

Especially if they say they have transcendent knowledge of space and time in their van

[graceful zodiac]

Not entirely, no. As long the they looked good/expensive he'd compliment them.

[swift pond]

Aha, so it was a Limbo Prime

Who'd refuse such a dashingly irritating man

[formal grove]

Barry made a deal with Wally, so I'm wondering if he got Void powers too now

aside from the all Baro are the same single person all existing at the same time

[uneven epoch]

others baro died lol

[rigid yoke]

Eternalism is mentioned in the message, right?

[uneven epoch]

in fact baro did collapsed multiverses

[rigid yoke]

The only thing collapsing is the economy when he arrives

[swift pond]

He has the power to Prisma weapons by hand instead of by Void juice

[rigid yoke]

@autumn turret I mentioned that because of this. It mentions wally but it also mentions eternalism and multiple Baros. Knowing about that pre new war could spoil the fun

[autumn turret]

tbh most people probably have had see eternalism memes by now

[rigid yoke]

partially fair, yeah

[uneven epoch]

onkko spoiled eternalism

[autumn turret]

onkko talks about the concept

[rigid yoke]

well, also fair, tho to understand that man you need an entire career

[uneven epoch]

onkko is mysterious person in every meaning

[cyan crest]

I think they just got like, unified
Like they're still other Baro's but they're no longer different tween each other

[rigid yoke]

So like us?

[cyan crest]

maybe

[rigid yoke]

Im imagining a Baro party and they constantly call each other nice things

Thankfully in our case it was just 2 versions

[uneven epoch]

there was a great guy whi explained handshake with wally scene so nice
sadly i cant remember his nickname and cant say exactly what he said, but only two versions of tenno survived deal with wally: the one who agreed (operator) and one who rejected (drifter)

[cyan crest]

It would seem like that but like
It could also not be that? The scene is vague and the other versions collapsing doesn't have to mean they no longer exist as they could like be unified? I'm not explaining myself and I hate that

[rigid yoke]

I get you

[orchid remnant]

I personally like to think that the operators in those scenes just had splitting headaches and aren’t dead!

[thick jolt]

Hehe splitting headache and there were multiple selves

[near rune]

Baro has also sold to Darvo, so I assume he sells to anyone who can pay.

[torpid lantern]

I think that was me. I was chatting about it the other day in here :)

[fiery lantern]

Can you wear the transmuter operator hood on the drifter?

[steady gate]

No

[white token]

I just want to put this here credits to the second part is: game spot yt

[wild copper]

That build makes me sad

[white token]

Lol they are the best mods i got

[wild copper]

Might wanna get better mods then, you're getting into later game if you've got umbra and you're gonna want to start modded ng better

[white token]

This is my casual loadout i use a hildryn for more intense gameplay but it still works i dont die in missions

[supple dagger]

God I love that mod lol

[scarlet basalt]

they made skittergirl into a boy ?

You kinda reinforced the idea that it could be another void manifestation, or either that the void seems to have "traits" that will be smilar through what it "create/give"

[autumn turret]

it seems theres alot of post processing missing from the laugh

[uncut spade]

When is crossplay testing happen?

[errant charm]

I suspect we wil find out more in the Aug devstream. What we do know is syncing up Baro was the first step.

[obtuse gyro]

The sound effects made by that peculiar mod is more of skittergirl than dominus thrax

[fathom skiff]

aanyone want to read like 7 pages of a fan warframe update?

centered around operator abilities

[pulsar token]

What's it do

[supple dagger]

It basically has a chance for skittlegirl to laugh in a super creepy way whenever you kill an enemy.

It doesn’t boost any stats or anything, but it’s still a cool mod imo

[pulsar token]

Useless mod

Might as well use it on necramwchs cuz of all the unnecessary space it has

And meet skittlegirl on zariman and wipe the place in a void flood

[supple dagger]

It only goes on Warframes unfortunately:/

[pulsar token]

And close 12 void gates to evolve an incarnon

To r4

And die a lot during so

Then develop an unnecessary hatred for void floods cuz nobody closes more than 1-3 gates

And have to keep leaving and rejoining and leaving and rejoining an leaving and rejoining and leaving and rejoining and it becomes a constant loop until you finally do it

And finally get closer to Lantus full potential

Then get all your gear because ammo efficiency doesn't work on incarnon form

[exotic vapor]

quick question, did you do void flood bounties?

if you did bounties everyone's gonna leave after 3 because you dont get anything for doing more

[bitter stag]

I think the lighting is a bit buggy

[torpid lantern]

But she does look very pretty

[pulsar token]

No

[dreamy tartan]

Still tilted I can't change her skin and hair color but it's fine - I wanted to make her look like one of my friend

[uneven epoch]

yep

it was you

[torpid lantern]

[supple dagger]

Ngl Faeii is literally one of the top 5 people in this server who knows everything about Warframe lore

[uneven epoch]

i need full list

[supple dagger]

It would probably be
Android
Faeii
Cephalon Fog
AstiaZ
Vespid

Android and Faeii are probably tied tho

But that’s just my ranking on who I think knows more IMO

[uneven epoch]

true true

[merry zealot]

does the new war quest hide your helmet automatically?

or things in your face like an mask

[uneven epoch]

yes

[graceful zodiac]

As what, A frame or operator?

[uneven epoch]

any cutscenes with operator open his helmet

[orchid remnant]

wow that's crazy because you forgot Iuettuhl! It's alright i forgive you though

[uneven epoch]

i need a bit more wiki reading, and i will be in top 7

[supple dagger]

I mean people will probably have their own ranking, but that’s just based off who I’ve seen active most of the time

[graceful zodiac]

In the first Drifter mission, yes. After that, it shouldn't

[orchid remnant]

(it's joke dw, i agree with you)

[supple dagger]

O LOL

[merry zealot]

oh alr
its cause having to take out my mask and change the hood of the operator and drifter every single time i replay the new war is ..... annoying

[autumn turret]

why would you have to change anything yourself?

[balmy badger]

Don't you just LOVE logging into this piece of crap scaring the life out of you cause you didn't expect it? Granted I WAS overdue for a visit... Been a few weeks.

[uneven epoch]

happens to me so rare, that i more enjoy him

[balmy storm]

I used to be scared of him but now it’s like seeing an old friend

[balmy badger]

I still get jump-scared by it sometimes when I'm not expecting it, I had literally just logged in and starting turning the camera.

[supple dagger]

I swear that he barely shows up in drifter camp, than he does in your orbiter

[balmy badger]

Never seen em' in Drifter's Camp. Then again, I'm always in the Orbiter.

[dreamy tartan]

An old friend that pops out of nowhere after not showing up for a long time and gives you borderline a heart attack everytime they decide to show back in your life

[safe meadow]

Same

[kind panther]

I have yet to get kiddo’d

[rain otter]

I know it happens right after Harrow

and then after the Sacrifice you get a special one

[kind panther]

I didn’t even get it then

[supple dagger]

Then ur one lucky man lol

[cyan crest]

I think you don't get them if you have spoiler mode on

[slender anvil]

Hehehe hey kiddo

[fiery lantern]

Is the Kiteer Greth armor going to be in normal rotation again? Or is it this event only?

[fleet veldt]

Same rotation for next 2(?) Baro instances.

[obtuse walrus]

Next 3

[shy zenith]

Just.... Titania... And do it all on 1 go....

[autumn turret]

void flood is infinitely easier solo

[thorn parcel]

This sounds ridiculous yeah just do it solo lmao

[calm tapir]

Hey, kiddo

[supple dagger]

Lucky you got a few weeks off

[crimson river]

I just use hildryn and have it all sorted

Trying to get sickening pulse hild to work but it pains me to say its not that good without a panzer vulpa

[swift mesa]

What's transcendence

[kind panther]

Zenyata ability

[swift mesa]

Ah

[karmic oasis]

So uhm, second dream quest was quite easy

[kind panther]

What part?

[karmic oasis]

This dumb spectre appeared 5 times in my quests already and got killed by his own weapon lol

[karmic oasis]

Everything

Very cool mission tho

[kind panther]

I was confused at the security eye so i googled it

[swift mesa]

Second dream is easy ngl

[karmic oasis]

The one where u shoot the beam in the operator room?

[kind panther]

War within is easy excluding a few parts

[swift mesa]

Zariman quests are annoying

[kind panther]

No the eye thing that you gotta make shoot some pillars

[karmic oasis]

Ohh

[kind panther]

Op room was easiest part lol

[karmic oasis]

U gotta make him shoot them i think

[kind panther]

Ik

[karmic oasis]

Yeah just shoot the spectre things once or twice and walk

[kind panther]

His name is stalker

[karmic oasis]

My bad

Confused it with another thing

So, am i over leveled or is the stalker just too weak?

[kind panther]

Do know to do new war your gonna need a voidrig and a railjack so your gonna wanna start getting those

[karmic oasis]

With broken war i kill him in like 3 hits

[kind panther]

Well broken war is one of the best melees in the game

[karmic oasis]

Oh my main melee is guandao

[kind panther]

Rj is easy they nerfed build times voidrig is the difficult one

It used to be a day or so now its a few minutes or an hour

[karmic oasis]

You need to kill voidrigs on deimos right?

For broken parts

[kind panther]

Yep or get ones from trading

[karmic oasis]

Nah, don't wanna spend plat

[kind panther]

The pod is the hardest to get

[karmic oasis]

It's gonna be a hell i already know

[kind panther]

Its not that bad

Takes 3 days for the the thing to actually build tho

Now getting mods for the voidrig? Thats really tough

[karmic oasis]

Btw, how do u unlock the bps for the parts?

I got them randomly

I logged in one day and i had them

[kind panther]

You get given them for doing the heart of deimos

[karmic oasis]

Ah, that really was the 4th quest i ever did lol

Just when i got deimos i rushed that quest

[kind panther]

The mausalon (weapon you get along with the voidrig) is one of if not the best archgun in the game

[swift mesa]

I agree

[kind panther]

Also voidrig weapons use archwing mods and can be used on archwing missions

[karmic oasis]

Not that i love doing archwing missions

[obtuse gyro]

they handed out the bps because they wanted to streamline folks to do the New War, the materials and parts can be found doing isolation bounties on Deimos, and killing the necramechs in the bounties

[kind panther]

And fortuna

[karmic oasis]

Makes sense why i didn't get them right when i completed the quest

[kind panther]

Need lvl 3 entrati standing and lvl 1 eudico standing

[thick jolt]

Mausolon also comes included with a gravimag so you can use it on normal missions

[karmic oasis]

Oh cool

I'm using karak for mastery rn tho

[kind panther]

Since when?

[thick jolt]

Pretty sure since the beginning i think all entrati archguns do

[karmic oasis]

Is there a way to get Warframe slots without plat?

[kind panther]

Nightwave

[karmic oasis]

Sad

[kind panther]

I dont see the archwing weapon summon available in my gear wheel?

[karmic oasis]

I don't think there are any in this nightwave

[kind panther]

There are

[karmic oasis]

Oh really?

I thought there were only weapon ones

[thick jolt]

Did you do fortuna ?

[karmic oasis]

Mb am blind

[kind panther]

Wdym?

[thick jolt]

Deployer requirement is still the same
But it does come with the gravimag piece equipped

[kind panther]

What level do i get little duck to for gravimag or do i level eudico for it?

[thick jolt]

You get the deployer from one of the heists after you unlock the back room

[karmic oasis]

Heists?

Talking about Little duck?

[obtuse gyro]

but at level 5 fortuna no?

[kind panther]

I was able to get the backroom from before i had my op lol

So that doesn’t help

[thick jolt]

Its what we call the bounties in the back room

On the table in the room

[kind panther]

So rank 5 eudico

[karmic oasis]

Oh yeah

[thick jolt]

Yeah

[karmic oasis]

Btw, what are necraloids?

I just found them in the companion app

[kind panther]

Loid and otak

[thick jolt]

Necraloid is the backroom syndicate in deimos

[kind panther]

Otak for mining and loid is how you got necramech parts before they were given for free

[karmic oasis]

Haven't talked to the entrati a lot so i guess i haven't unlocked them

[kind panther]

You need to do war within for loid access

[karmic oasis]

Yeah exactly, haven't unlocked them

I guess Imma do nodes on other planets like Jupiter etc. to unlock all of em

Since i need voidrig and railjack

[kind panther]

Rj is easy

[karmic oasis]

Oh btw

How to i craft it? People say in dojo but i went there and nothing was clickable

There were like 3 stations and i couldn't click nothing

[kind panther]

You need to get the quest

[karmic oasis]

Which is?

[kind panther]

I forget

Ima check rq

[karmic oasis]

Aight thx mate

[kind panther]

Rising tide

You dont need a clan for it but it’s recommended for better rj gear

[karmic oasis]

Gotta buy the bo

Bp*

That's why i didn't get the quest

[kind panther]

You can get it from the config tab at a dojo too

[karmic oasis]

Why can't i buy It in companion app

:c

They should add market in comp app

[karmic oasis]

I already got a moon clan with rank 11 lol

[tight totem]

Anyone know if there are plans to bring the operator appearance items to the drifter?

[orchid remnant]

actually, they're removing all operator cosmetics entirely, so take pics of your fashion before its too late

[deft void]

I hope the Drifter gets an Amp at the end of Duvari. That pistol can't do jack in terms of damage.

[deft void]

Say WOT m8?

[kind panther]

And where was this said?

[orchid remnant]

The Man in the Wall told me when I was sleeping yesterday, he appeared in my dream

[sharp spoke]

I will miss the prime operator gear that I spent money on :( it is a sad day that Wally replaces operator cosmetics with Lunaro 2

But Wally weaves as Wally wills

[sturdy creek]

is there an estimation of when veil breaker will come out?

[balmy storm]

September

[fervent walrus]

Does duviri paradox have a confirmed release date?

[orchid remnant]

Winter

[fervent walrus]

Ok

Thx

[balmy storm]

December specifically, if they keep to winter of this year

[uneven epoch]

winter 2022 iirc

[frail nymph]

Basically they're trying to do Veilbreaker first, but if there's delays, they will prioritise duviri

[balmy storm]

Duviri is 5 months away and they’ve already been working on it for the past 3 years, I think they’ll be fine putting out Veilbreaker in 2 months

I doubt we’ll see many updates beyond small stuff though, probably will see new stuff in October for halloween alongside the new prime

[uneven epoch]

i hope duviri wont be too easy or extremely hard
and also i hope orowyrm is a good boy

[balmy storm]

It’s difficulty depends on where they place it, we know it’s not post new-war

Also the wyrm is not a good boy, it’s trying to kill us

We’re def gonna have to kill at least Lodun, I can see other wyrms being the boss for Duviri, like PT or Exploiter

Or the eidolons

[frail nymph]

No they haven't. They've been working on 4 different railjack updates, Deimos, Sisters of Parvos, Liches, Deadlock Protocol, New War, SS/OV, Angels of Zariman and Duviri for the past 3 years

We have no idea how tight the Duviri schedule is

Reb specifically said "we'll try to have it out before Duviri" for a reason

[balmy storm]

They’ve brought up the fact they’ve been working on Duviri for 3 years a lot, plus they can work on other updates while working on Duviri lol, doesn’t make much sense to put all their resources into one update all the time

[frail nymph]

That doesn't mean anything.
The only situation that those 3 years can be so decisively relevant is if those 3 years focused a majority of the workforce on Duviri.

Which is clearly not the case

[frail nymph]

And if Duviri was ready to the point of just testing, which is the only way Veilbreaker is completely guaranteed to come out first, then Reb wouldn't have said it this way.

[balmy storm]

Well we don’t know how much of their time and reaources have been focused on Duviri, we just know they have been working on it and they have been putting out updates, I trust they can manage themselves well enough to get it done by December and getting out whatever else they need to get out in the in between

[frail nymph]

You're just assuming they 100% can, though. Even though they specifically mentioned the contingency.

And we know for sure Duviri did not comprise a majority of the work done by DE during the past 3 years. That would mean it's bigger than the entire combination of New War, Corpus Railjack, Deimos, AoZ and SoP.

[balmy storm]

I don’t assume 100% anything, don’t assume anything about me

[frail nymph]

If you hadn't assumed that, you shouldn't have replied to me mentioning their contingency in the first place 🤷‍♂️

[balmy storm]

Assumed what?
All I’ve “assumed” is that they can manage themselves, we don’t know how much time has actually gone into Duviri, when I say 3 years I’m just saying what they have said

Realistically they would have to put out some update before Duviri, maybe it’s veilbreaker, maybe it’s just the next prime + halloween stuff

[frail nymph]

No, that's not the whole context. They specifically mentioned that they're "trying" to make Veilbreaker happen before Duviri and therefore "trying" to get it out this year, which is all that I pointed out.

Then you denied that this contingency, which they themselves stated, will be needed. Evidence for denying that? None except the fact that they worked an undecisive amount of and off in the past 3 years.

Since the evidence isn't enough, the underlying assumption is that they've completed the vast majority of work on Duviri except testing etc by now, thanks to another assumption about working a lot more during the past 3 years than one would think. These are inherent assumptions, otherwise there's no grounds to say that Veilbreaker cannot be delayed.

[keen grove]

What a PERFECT Quest

[frail nymph]

GG

[frail nymph]

Time to watch Duviri trailer (and if you want, gameplay)?

[keen grove]

i watched it already in the tennocon

it was awesome

iam just so excited to continue playing the next quests

[frail nymph]

one of us
one of us
one of us

[frail nymph]

If Ballas hadn't stabbed us, technically, Drifter wouldn't have been able to finally tale the hand....

[lone axle]

What faces would be good for matching Mara's? i love to make my characters look like the canon characters when possible

[swift mesa]

Mara?

[lone axle]

the operator in the new war trailer, aka the tenno they use for the scripts and the canon tenno who participates in warframe's quests

[swift mesa]

Huh.

Cool

[cunning copper]

Mara is the name DE gave to the female operator they used in devstreams and trailers

[obtuse gyro]

Mara Sov so powerful she appears in a whole other game

[fleet veldt]

No, it's a byproduct of Oryx's ability to Take.

[cyan crest]

I wouldn't say Mara is the Canon one, only the... Main official one

DE has also used a male operator when paired with their drifter

[cunning copper]

Which imo, by itself makes the appearance of their drifter all the more suspicious

[cyan crest]

Or just like
The design they came up with

Cause I think you're with the 2 drifter theory

[fossil fractal]

making a "canon" character defeats the point of having a game where you are supposed to be the protagonist

or well "you"

at least in my opinion

[swift pond]

I mean, I hope no one here is an eldritch child soldier or there might be bigger problems on our hands

[fossil fractal]

if no one's dead yet i think we're fine

i say that before they void sling to my house and blast me in the face

[torpid lantern]

Rebecca said she is canon. The male drifter was used in Duviri to make it clear at a glance that he was an adult for their reveal. That's why it's not Mara.

[twilit geode]

Technically, through the eternalism thing, isn't everyone the canon operator?

[graceful zodiac]

She's official, not canon

[twilit geode]

An infinite number of Zarimans with an infinite number of operators and an infinite number of chances that they were the ones to take TMITW's hand as we did in the quest. Possibly even Rell at several points.

[graceful zodiac]

Mara would be canon if it's said in-game she's the one to the do the the player things. Right now she's just the official DE operator

[swift pond]

Embarrassed to admit I keep confusing the "canon" Operator for mine lol

They're eerily similar

[twilit geode]

The real question is, does the canon Operator randomly say "My Warframe is strong." to themselves?

[wicked iron]

Did she? I only remember it being said that internally they refer to the player character as Mara, and such, but I don't recall anything about what's canonical.

[cyan crest]

Where?

[cyan crest]

Exactly

And like with warframe and it's relation with desitions and possibilities... Making a Canon main tenno seems odd

[cyan crest]

Darth Revan moment (pointing this because of a similar situation I'm trying to stay on topic)

[torpid lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k929pnBT9M

You guys can nitpick Reb if you don't like her being called Canon

[wicked iron]

Oh, I don't intend to nitpick. I just didn't remember this. Rewatching now. 😄

[torpid lantern]

I know! It's just a lot of people didn't agree with the word canon but I'm just quoting Rebecca 😅

[wicked iron]

Man. How the heck did I forget about that. I remembered everything else except her saying it's the canonical name lol

[wicked iron]

And tying into this for folks, please remember not to tag DE in channels unless they are already actively chatting.

[torpid lantern]

Oh lol oops yes please don't ping reb. I was joking

[swift pond]

Ordis, my son

[graceful zodiac]

Been a while since a watched that. Also still jives with my point. Mara is the name they use for script writing and promotional stuff. Just not canon to the game itself

[torpid lantern]

It's kinda hard to say. Hmmm... I guess technically the game itself doesn't have a set Tenno at all, but in the lore and story itself, it's Mara. You kinda just have to pick which one you choose to use in discussion. I always stick to the story over gameplay but I totally get the argument for the inverse

[swift pond]

I guess Mara is just a name for convenience's sake. For all intents and purposes, it serves the same purpose as calling them "The Tenno" - a stock noun to describe the player character. Same deal with Red in Pokémon.

[graceful zodiac]

I mean, that's the catch, it's not in the lore or story. As Reb says, Mara is the name they use for the purposes of writing scripts.

[torpid lantern]

Kinda (though Red is an actual character in the later games)

[swift pond]

Fair point, but there hasn't been a sequel to Warframe with a Mara character. I just take it as their name unless specified by the player.

[torpid lantern]

The catch is no one exists in the game. It's interchangeable with whoever is stuck there which lore wise isn't how that would work.
DE has shown Mara in the trailers going through the quests and even her own missions and experiences. I say that combined with Reb saying in the script when they need to have a main character they use her in my opinion makes her the actual main character if we step back and look at the lore

[graceful zodiac]

But the trailers also aren't particularly canon to game itself. I don't a reason to think Mara as the in game main Tenno when she doesn't follow the presented story and has nothing on the actual game to point to her specific existence

[swift pond]

In the story of Warframe, perhaps. In game, you kinda need to make exceptions for the player to make their own OC - ahem, player character, to go through the main plot. I wouldn't consider it canon as far as the game itself is concerned.

[torpid lantern]

She shows up at the beginning of the game in the intro cutscene so she does appear in the game her trailer is a little different but doesn't make it impossible. It just might mean her story starts at a different point then the player has to start at

[cyan crest]

and I would personally say the lore also supports different main tenno
In different realities, for sure, but like
Multiverse

[scarlet basalt]

There must be a doctor strange (but a tenno) in one of the multiverse
Nvm this is Dominus thrax

[cyan crest]

I'm trying not to use eternalism as an answer to everything but like imo
This is explainable with it
And it kind of makes sense with the rules eternalism presents itself with
Like
Idk

[scarlet basalt]

Eternalism may not be the answer to everything,
But wow it is a good answer

[swift pond]

DE really did make the ultimate cop-out excuse in all of writing didn't they

[cyan crest]

I just think it can be used to explain different main characters, this being a world where multiverse is Canon and an important plot device

I don't think this particular game needs a Canon protag
Hell, any game with an avatar protagonist

[scarlet basalt]

This would also mean that Tuvul being played inside the zariman could have some importance and maybe they have a way to spawn him inside the lore lol.
Honestly i think that he would be dead and that the only executor alive would be ballas (before TNW) but they gave him a VA 😮 .

[cyan crest]

Nihil is also kind of alive

[scarlet basalt]

Well he is a boss fight so it's even better 😎
And i hope they re-use his mechanics (destroying platforms is very good imo in a game about movement)

[cyan crest]

Ballas also has a boss fight
You can find it bad or good but it's there

[scarlet basalt]

Tuvul boss fight confirmed ? Kappa

Ballas boss fight was kinda unexpected tbh but it was nice

[swift pond]

Wonder if anyone remembers the 3rd Orb Mother

[scarlet basalt]

Neither DE

Tho they have told us that it could be in work, mentioning parvos could have a role in it

[cyan crest]

Let her be, she's just taking a bath

[scarlet basalt]

She must be clean after all of those years

wait isn't she bathing in liquid coolant ? What if she got out and explode lol ?

[cyan crest]

That must be it, she can't get out cause she'll overheat

[scarlet basalt]

That would have been insanely good that protea is still alive.
In a way this would make the 3rd orb mother very interesting in a new way : Protea will constantly use her power to return the 3rd orb mother into a non explosive state because to fight her we would have to heat that thing up BUT we need to do it before she reach Fortuna 🤔 and she would have also the 1st orb Fight adaptation mechanic lol

that would be Funny if they try a weird mechanic that can only be done inside open world : Pulling away the 3rd orb mother with archwing, so you would need to use coolant cell to cool her up if she is near Fortuna

[fleet veldt]

Parvos could just make another Protea specter and dismantle her for parts which may or may not be involved in that Orb.

Otherwise, maybe it's producing coolant, or purifying it?

We already have an Orb with Jackal-esque mechanics (Profit-Taker) that stands vigilant and is known to be used for intimidation and mopping up threats;

An Orb with 'toss cans of smoldering fuel at it to make her mad' (Exploiter) which processes Thermia and collects coolant;

The third Orb would need to be about either draining her of coolant/energy or botching some kind of continuous process.

[scarlet basalt]

True,they could try this theme for this 3rd orb 🤔

[swift pond]

Oh my lord, I am very glad companions follow you into relays. Bout to go Steel Honours shopping with Best Dad

[icy minnow]

I just returned from a long break. Did they remove the stealth-on-kill focus ?.

[uneven epoch]

no

[thick jolt]

You mean the old invis on critical from the focus schools ?

[silver coral]

Oh wait, I don't see any invis focus ability on the wiki

It might've been removed

Oh well, arcane trickery it is

[kind panther]

You have to come back i think or you have to go there

[frosty elk]

you leave and it tells you to go there

since it, as the warning says, locks you out of warframe activities for a while

so its for the people that still want to play a bit regular warframe

[icy minnow]

@thick jolt Yes i meant the invis on critical focus. Looks like it's been removed... 🤔

[thick jolt]

Yeah its been quite a while since it was removed unfortunately

[still pollen]

https://i.imgur.com/jcOIGDX.jpeg

do i take this one?'

does this choice even matter

[vital creek]

yes

[dreamy tartan]

That's the first school you'll be able to get early on.

[vital creek]

long term it doesn't, it just determines which school you get access to for free (the rest require a bit of grinding)

[still pollen]

school ??

[vital creek]

focus schools

[dreamy tartan]

Those are categorized as focus school.

[still pollen]

idk what any of this is, i tab out during cutscenes and just shoot stuff

[vital creek]

pretty much choosing your starting class for your operator

[dreamy tartan]

🤷🏻‍♀️

[still pollen]

how important is the class

[vital creek]

very

though its not too terrible to unlock the rest later

[still pollen]

why is it important

[dreamy tartan]

Can be switched later on, but then that turns into a future or present you problem

[vital creek]

they give very powerful buffs

[still pollen]

like?

[vital creek]

unairu makes you pretty much immortal and lets you vaporize endgame enemies

[still pollen]

so tank

[vital creek]

also dps, unairu is just OP

[still pollen]

what vazarin

[vital creek]

healer, but vazarin kinda sucks

[dreamy tartan]

It helps you revive people or yourself faster.

[still pollen]

but i like countering stuff their description sounded good

[dreamy tartan]

Vazarin can be very helpful early on but-

[still pollen]

like crossout running a tesla cannon will prevent any drones missiles and rockets from touching you or your allies

[steady gate]

This is why you’re always confused

[vital creek]

zenuriks main thing is regenerating energy, madurai is burst damage, naramon is consistent damage (and especially melee damage)

[still pollen]

so i should go zen because im always out of energy

[vital creek]

you could, there are solid alternatives to solving that issue later on but you can also just change schools later on as well

[still pollen]

i wanna keep khoras cage up and just spam whip or w/e because CC is good

[dreamy tartan]

Wha-

Oh. I guess so.

[still pollen]

why is this spoiler chat? how old is this content

do these choices matter? i pressed do it again https://i.imgur.com/c8CtL8m.png

[wicked iron]

Your answers act as a sort of guide for what it recommends as your first school, but you can choose whichever school you want.

[still pollen]

https://i.imgur.com/06ziLpU.jpeg

the lone dot changed location

[cyan crest]

Iirc this channel is mainly for like things that aren't out yet but all spoilers are good
Also yeah this content is old

[still pollen]

idk i got deleted from players helping players when i asked about this stuff

and linked to here

[orchid remnant]

the dots just mean how many of your answers correlated to the schools

[still pollen]

which is weird if its old content and reached fairly quickly

[valid fable]

They do? I never noticed

[cyan crest]

Ic
Maybe it would've been good if you used ||these||?

[cyan crest]

Yeah but I guess de is really extreme about operator spoilers
Even when operators are shown in their last ads

[still pollen]

so this class gives me more energy or i get more energy from energy pick ups ? https://i.imgur.com/TrdmOux.png

or the energy drop rate is increased?

[wild copper]

It has abilities that allow you to generate energy over time
Zenurik is generally the best for new players to choose

[vital creek]

you get a skill that generates energy when used, though i think it does boost energy pickups as well

[still pollen]

ok yeh im take that i hate using my cage and then the host migrating getting me killed because i have no CC now

[valid fable]

yeah, first thing you unlock is energy orb related

[cyan crest]

Unairu has an ability that makes you functionally inmortal if you get a good Amp tho

[vital creek]

with a side effect of also deleting enemies in the process

[cyan crest]

Indeed
It's also usable with other schools

[cyan crest]

But like
Unairu has the shield and armor strips

[vital creek]

yea though its nowhere near as broken on another school

[still pollen]

do i just take the 10 endo ?

[cyan crest]

10 endo is really not a lot

I'd take the cell

[vital creek]

i'd take the cell

[still pollen]

ok it 80 but still low

i have 63 cell

[cyan crest]

Lol

[still pollen]

64 now

[cyan crest]

Ayatans can get you endo much faster and in much larger quantities so like
Idk I wouldn't.... Oh Alright lol

[still pollen]

these https://i.imgur.com/3sH4oU2.png no idea where to get more some times player gifted me some. i keep this one cuz it looks neat tho

[orchid remnant]

oh a pineapple

[still pollen]

how do other people get soo many of these that giving them away isnt even a problem

[cyan crest]

You can get more at maroo's bazar
Last dialogue option with maroo, gets you in a weekly mission

And there you get an ayatan

[steady gate]

You also can just find them in missions if you look around. 1/7 missions has one

Sanctuary doesn’t spawn them.

[latent ferry]

||i wish i picked margulis, natah's so bad||

[lone axle]

||you're treated much like a friend with margulis, its nice. however seeing the grustrag 3 with margulis's name is a horror beyond comprehension||

[latent ferry]

oh this is spoiler chat
Margulis better

[pulsar token]

We need a clem skin for lotua

Just imagine clem guiding you through missions

[lone axle]

lotus tennogen

[latent ferry]

margulis protected the kid tenno
lotus was an impostor that left her mission to play House with tenno
natah wants to kill us

[obtuse walrus]

Why? I like her looks

Oh that's fair

[pulsar token]

Ii chose Natah

[latent ferry]

i chose natah too and me mad, i thought its gonna do anything

i wanna buy the margulis skin but then im stuck with a margulis named natah

[pulsar token]

Or eidelon teralyst named natah

[lone axle]

imagine if they make you pay a premium to switch lotus voiceovers
thatd be awful

plat is understandable

[pulsar token]

100 dollar

Cuz remember baro tennocon relay

25 dollars

[still pollen]

how do i get this stuff https://i.imgur.com/9C6pEBu.png

[steady gate]

You gotta put a zenurik lens (you got one from picking zenurik at the ends of second dream) on a frame/weapon. And get xp while using it

[still pollen]

how do i do that

[steady gate]

Actions.

[still pollen]

https://i.imgur.com/9VTWsbt.png

[lone axle]

zenurik

[steady gate]

You need the zenurik one

[still pollen]

this one ? https://i.imgur.com/WGQqO9H.png

do these limited like boosters ?

or are they like enchantments and once slotted can never be removed

[lone axle]

once slotted they sit on there until you put a new one in

[steady gate]

Can’t remove them

[still pollen]

worth the 80 ? https://i.imgur.com/GAjfNOn.png

[lone axle]

yes but if you dont want to spend 80 plat you can just use the one you already have

[still pollen]

theres th free one i know but the exp earn is like 0.5%

[lone axle]

over on the left

[still pollen]

gonna take forever

these abilities dsound good and faster to unlock the better

https://i.imgur.com/lVsR8uA.png

160 to slot my primary and most used frame ?

4.5% per day ?

[steady gate]

From the lens? No.

Whenever you get xp on a max level item, whatever % the lens has turns into focus instead

[still pollen]

does i stack if i slot all my gear with the same one?

[steady gate]

Yes

[still pollen]

can i grind for these or only platnium for 2.25%s

[steady gate]

You can grind for them

[still pollen]

how do i get a bunch of 2.25% is theyre higher

[lone axle]

most bounties have a tier where you can earn lens and lens upgrader blueprints

[steady gate]

There’s a higher one you can’t buy, only craft

[still pollen]

how to get blueprint

[steady gate]

And you get the bp for it through lua disruption

[still pollen]

so if i slot this, i can put a higher teir one later ? https://i.imgur.com/2LxutsK.png

[lone axle]

yes