tennogen-creation-discussion

[rotund nova]

Lol that would be dope

Gauss desperately needs a deluxe. Even Xaku already has one, and they came a few years after Gauss

[zenith flax]

They came just a few months after, although it's still in concept. I think mostly they just go with it if there's a theme that works. It'd be cool to see Liger make a Gauss skin similar to Zephyr's deluxe.

[rotund nova]

would also be cool for Liger to design Gauss deluxe because they were responsible for the Acceltra, Akarius and the Altra Syandana (Gauss' signature gear) which means they understand his theme and design language well and can turn it into something magnificent

[silver dagger]

Anyone got any skin concepts Based off the New War Archons?

[hushed hound]

*They, It literally says in their description that xaku is a composite.

[rotund nova]

Xaku is the most they/them of all they/thems in the world

[heavy sigil]

Can de not make their game sentient, it's like it knows what we need and makes sure we don't get it, been trying to get 5 atmo systems for months now

[uneven hull]

fella, wrong channel

[proven nacelle]

Frankly, I think Zephyr Harrier should've gone to Gauss instead

[rotund nova]

No

[proven nacelle]

On that note... I gotta track down my Corpus-inspired Titania concept and see if anyone would be willing to collab on making it. I'm struggling /w ZBrush currently, but maybe I'll end up sucking it up and attempting to work on it muself lmao

[zenith flax]

Oooo I forgot Liger made the weapons & syandana. And yeeee, a harrier themed gauss would be so cool

[rotund nova]

Yes

[zenith flax]

Corpus titania sounds rad. Osprey 2.0 hfdghdfgj

[remote whale]

May I ask what exactly TennoGen is?

[devout forge]

Community made cosmetics

[rotund nova]

hey, someone who actually asks what TennoGen is instead of blurting unrelated stuff into this channel. TennoGen stands for Tenno (aka the community/players) Generated and refers to any cosmetics not made by DE. It's the stuff you see sold for real money instead of plat where it also says "A unique skin for [Item X], designed by [TennoGen creator Y]" in the description. They're also marked by an icon similar to this >>> .

If you have any other questions feel free to ask

[merry lion]

how are these tennogen cosmetics created?

[rotund nova]

You have to be more specific

Like you want to know what programs the creators use or what the creative process is or what the guidelines are?

[thick root]

They are created the same way DE creates their assets, its just 3d modelling. There are a set of rules however

[remote whale]

I'm interested in what program.

[rotund nova]

For 3d modeling some use Blender, some use ZBrush, for textures idk but it's probably a mix of whatever 3d modeling program and a photoshop like image editing program.

[thick root]

Most of us use substance painter for textures, because it is the industry standard, and used by DE, who has given us specific export settings for it. Some like Master Noob does it old school by hand with photoshop, but that is the only person i know that doesn't use substance.

[rotund nova]

Ah right, I forgot about Substance. I even used it myself before.

Makes alot more sense than using Photoshop

[jagged wigeon]

I've never read The Tempest but is it weird that I can kind of see a Caliban alt helm with asymmetrical horns? Like a "one side has a horn/monstrous features and the other doesn't" sort of thing

[rotund nova]

if you can make it match his sentient aesthetic anything is possible

[zenith flax]

A mutalist Caliban could be pretty rad. Or for the asymmetrical design, what if it was part corpus, then covered with infestation for the weirder geometry

[unreal sigil]

I demand another Samurai skin, and it should be for uhm- uhhh, ahhh- sigh

[unreal sigil]

Uh guys if I win the giveaway do they ship to Vietnam...?

[rotund nova]

Gauss

But he already gets one if Gauss Zamariu gets reworked for future TennoGen rounds.

[unreal sigil]

Or Harrow Zamariu!

[rotund nova]

Harrow as a Shinto priest

[solid pulsar]

Hi Tenno! We're excited to let you know we are adding** Leg Armor** to the list of items that can be submitted for TennoGen!
We will be updating the official TennoGen guide site to include instructions after TennoCon, but for creators who are eager to start exploring Leg Armor concepts, we've posted the details & diagram on the Forums here: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1315616-tennogen-leg-armor-pieces-now-accepted/

[rotund nova]

• very heavy breathing *

[ancient niche]

you probably want one of the general discussion channels. this one is for tennogen stuff

[shell talon]

This is not TennoGen discussion.

[shell talon]

The Baro relay is for TennoCon. TennoGen is for fans to make items to sell in-game in Warframe. 🙂 Baro's TennoCon Relay should last until the 17th, though.

Speaking of TennoGen discussion, though.... I have a TennoGen idea I want to work on, but I really need to learn Blender so I can do it well. 😮 I have a full armor set in mind (hooray for leg armor now being doable!).

Something very glassy. 😄

[amber oyster]

For a pretty good overview of the pipeline, check out Hydroxates video series on it, really helped me get going

[shell talon]

Oh perfect, thanks. 😄

[radiant lodge]

I'll check that out, too

[amber oyster]

It’s a very useful general overview

[hushed hound]

Just now?

[zenith flax]

A samurai Sevagoth could be cool

[hushed hound]

Sevagoth with extra long horn to poke people with

[open jungle]

I grateful that the tennogen system exists and that DE support creators trough the game, this is definitely awesome.

[naive wind]

Are glaives allowed for TennoGen? If so, do they have any special requirements?

[rotund nova]

they're not

[lyric abyss]

why?

[rotund nova]

dunno, ask DE

[sick coral]

Hi everyone, I've been having trouble translating the metals from substance painter to the tennogen viewer. From some reason they appear black after importing (and user 0 looks fine as well, looking 100% white for the metals and all black for non metals). Took the time to review every shader channel and still there's something that eludes me. I've already tried using the default material provided in the documentation and the result is very similar (tint is barely noticeable, looks almost black, even with high luminosity tints). I'm beginning to think that the difference might be in relation to the lack of a HDRI in the tennogen viewer.

I'm using the specularity PBR pipeline. Any hints on what to do in this case? Thanks in advance!

Ps. Sorry if this isn't the correct place to post this, i haven't found much in the forums 😦

[ivory imp]

That’s just how the Tennogen viewer has been lately

Assuming that’s metalness workflow? The viewer will show that as black but will show it correctly for specular workflow

Your user0 is correct though, so you should be good. If you want you can double check with another render program or use sketchfab to make sure the textures are okay

[sick coral]

Thanks! will do

[ivory imp]

Of course

Don’t be shy if you have other questions

[uneven hull]

tennogen are skins

tennogen are player-created, DE-approved, sold for money, not plat skins

[rotund sage]

The channel should be renamed from "tennogen-discussion" to "SKINS NOT EVENTS-discussion"

[bleak mirage]

what...because one person? 😂

i figured out my problem myself, i thought i already tried it, it was the browser

[uneven hull]

you're not the first and you won't be the last

[rotund sage]

Yep and it happens for way too much

[rotund nova]

you're like the minimum 15th to confuse TennoGen with something else

at this point it's not even funny anymore

[sick coral]

oh man, THANK YOU, you're my hero. I cannot stress this enough, you saved me hours upon hours of suffering. I was certain there was something wrong with my setup and after checking it with sketchfab it all worked as intended.
This is the model with metallic textures being correctly displayed 😄 (ignore the base color though)

[uneven hull]

that looks sick as hell

[sick coral]

Thanks! it's my very first try at tennogen, if it works out i'm planning on doing a lot more.

[ivory imp]

Glad you got it! Now show us the entire piece, I’m curious

[hushed hound]

I think we need more floor length capes

[gilded moon]

Hi everyone, I am new to tennogen i just wanted to know can I go creative with the body of the Warframe or not and wanted to know does this work for ash or not

[radiant lodge]

When you say 'get creative with the body' what exactly do you mean? Helmets have more freedom to make changes than the body. The body you cannot make any changes to the mesh of the body.

[gilded moon]

creative like designs on body not like out of the boundaries of the body

[radiant lodge]

Yeah, that's definitely allowed. If you're not sure, take a look at the in-game tennogens. Esp the most recent ones. They have changed the rules a little over time, so there are some early ones that may not be allowed if they were submitted now.

[gilded moon]

okay. thank you

[wary geyser]

If you want you could have the horns point out and slightly back with more curves and a swirly unicorn horn (but with 2) type of deal before breaking at the tip with it curving up and down?

That would give it a demonic look, though this is just a suggestion

If you need me to expand on what I am suggesting just lmk

[gilded moon]

like this?

[jagged wigeon]

You know what I'm thinking? This might make or break so just an idea that you can take into account but the lines in the middle, what if they're lit up to give it a sort of sauron/bioshock big daddy look? I also realize it's just the starting process and you might already have this in mind so I apologize if I'm just preaching to the choir

[gilded moon]

that's actually what I am going with kinda a demonic theme i was going to name the skin oni

and the line in the middel i want to make the energy line on them so when you activate blade storm it fells like this

[jagged wigeon]

Oh nice, that's an even better idea than what I was thinking!

[sick coral]

Here it is, sorry for the delay 😛

The idea was to make a sort of ceremonial banner holder, and with it the Karris Family crest.

[ivory imp]

I like it!

[jagged wigeon]

||as in, Ordan Karris?||

[sick coral]

Yup, that was the idea

[jagged wigeon]

Noice

[jagged wigeon]

Idk how tennogen works but I wonder if this will allow for more Karris attachments later on, ||I'd love to bring the glory of the Beast of Bones in the battlefield||

[gilded moon]

is this allowed or did i break the rules?

[thick root]

Back spikes might push the model too far from the base, it might not bake well on the model. I'd do a test bake and see if it works

[gilded moon]

sadly every time i try blender crashes i will try with an earlier model with less detail but with spikes in it

[rotund nova]

Back spikes might clip with syndanas, it's why I imagine they make back spikes circle around where a syndana might attack, like Khora's spikes for example.

[gilded moon]

okay thanks i will do a remodel for the spike where it fit with the ash back spine

i am having a different problem now every time i try to import a low poly model for the ash helemet in the tennogen application it semi appers and broken parts why

[uneven hull]

why would a syandana attack?)

[naive idol]

I'm assuming they ment attach

[shell talon]

#gameplay-discussion is a better spot for stuff like this. 🙂

[uncut eagle]

For anyone who has their stuff actually put in the game, did you have to pay for it?

[zenith flax]

I'm pretty sure DE pays the artists, not the other way around

[ivory imp]

No you get a free copy of your item

[rotund nova]

nvm what I said, misunderstood the question

I thought the question was if the artists had to pay for their items to make it into the game in the first place

[radiant lodge]

Ah. No. Tennogen items are selected from the available pool, and added to the game. The artists are paid by DE for purchases of their skin on PC. DE does not get paid by the artist for their items to be added.

[dim tiger]

What’s y’all’s expectations for this

[oblique shore]

I don't buy tennogen skins, but the Wisp and Lavos skins seem nice

[alpine dagger]

tenogen and tennocon are 2 different things

[dim tiger]

I knew that after I typed it

lmao

[oblique shore]

I tried to save you

[dim tiger]

F

[rotund nova]

this one?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2763804733

[oblique shore]

Yeah, looks cool 👍

[rotund nova]

I want it so bad!

especially since DE also accepted the Syandana too

[oblique shore]

The syandana pairs well with a rifle with soaktron skin

[rotund nova]

Ayeee , i hope the textures looks good as shown in images.

Kinda hard for me to get them right since warframe have their own shader. But i try.

[rotund nova]

what frame?

[gilded moon]

ash

[rotund nova]

nice

[junior pike]

Trinity soon? 🥲

[old prairie]

just me or is the buy tickets through steam not working (not loading)

[radiant lodge]

Are you trying to buy tennocon tickets? Go to warframe.com to buy

[old prairie]

i want the steam points

otherwise i would

[radiant lodge]

Seems to be working fine for me. Either contact Steam or submit a ticket to #support-and-bugs - steam might be faster, since it is their platform not working.

[old prairie]

ill wait 1-2hours then contact them if it still doesnt could be my internet but i doubt it with 500mb/s

[lyric abyss]

this has nothing to do with tennogen

[hardy harbor]

how would one go about making some concepts? ive been kinda interested for a while but kinda dont know where to start

[eager quail]

This channel is for discussion about Tennogen content. Please take other questions to #gameplay-discussion / #players-helping-players

[dusty ocean]

Oh sorry since its during tennocon I thought this was the right chat.

[rotund nova]

Just read the channel name properly pls

[celest nest]

If you want to just make concepts, honestly something like Krita is is enough

But it needs to adher to general warframe shape as we cannot change shape of the body. If concept is rely cool, a 3d artist could reach out

If you're interested in full model making pipeline, my approach is, high poly - zbrush, low poly/rendering blender, texturing - substance painter, and rendering dedicated for pretty images - marmoset toolbag

[hardy harbor]

alright! thank you!

i saw someone talking about zbrush earlier so i'll def check that out, and ive got photoshop already so i can use that to make some concepts

[celest nest]

Keep in mind that Zbrush is pretty expensive, and you could sculpt in Blender

Zbrush is just superior, but also narrowly specialized for sculpting and is bad for everything else

[fathom oyster]

Welp, there's probably not going to be any Tennogen made for the Wolframe lol

[rotund nova]

tennoGEN, not tennoCON

[gilded moon]

dam that took a long time to make a low poly of

[honest ravine]

Looks nice

[gilded moon]

sadly some empty faces for no reason will try to fix them

[gilded moon]

Just a small question does it have to be 8000 or less?

[lyric abyss]

just curious: how hard is xaku tennogen?

[feral marlin]

Dare people to make it, Make a challenge with some form of reward (it could be anything) and see what they come up with.

[calm orchid]

What exactly is Tennogen? I've been away from wf for quite awhile and only recently started getting back into playing regularly.

[eager quail]

Tenno generated content. Players make cosmetics which have a chance of being added to the game.

[storm elm]

has anyone else not gotten their titania after claiming it on twitch?

[radiant lodge]

A few people. please use the appropriate channels to ask, this is for TennoGEN discussion only. Thank you

[jagged wigeon]

Stayanax tennogen skins are gonna be pretty good I bet

[rotund nova]

we don't even know what he looks like apart from the animated teaser

[jagged wigeon]

Yeah of course I mean like when he comes out and stuff, but tennogen creators always come up with some sick ideas when it comes to skins and helmets

[rotund nova]

depends

if it's another Xaku type of deal we might not see any Styanax tennogen soon

[celest nest]

As long as he's symmetrical, I'll work on him

[alpine dagger]

xaku has complications with tennogen

[rotund nova]

I know

[hardy harbor]

whys that? i was wanting to make a few concepts for them

[alpine dagger]

mostly his very... unconventional body

[hardy harbor]

more work to do instead of being symmetrical? alright

makes sense

[uneven hull]

his body, not their body?

[jagged wigeon]

Why did I see that coming from a mile away

[celest nest]

It's not even that Xaku is assymmetrical, it's more that you;re effectively making a skin for a bunch of thin sticks, which don't change shape. There were several designers who already dropped the project because of that

[hardy harbor]

hmhmm

[celest nest]

I.e it's ike trying to make a new Lexus grille design

It will end up taking up half a car and remain total chaos anyway

[hardy harbor]

i get that, and i see why itd be hard. but im looking at xaku right now and im starting to form an idea. i want to try and make a concept, at least.

[gilded moon]

guys small question is this in the limit or not? kinda confused abit

[alpine dagger]

well it looks to be just under the limit assuming the 8000 numbers is the max tris

[gilded moon]

does it have to be 8000 ?

[alpine dagger]

i would assume thats the limit not the minimum

id have to see what that 8000 number is labeled as

[gilded moon]

Polycount (tri's)

[humble axle]

Have any wonderful creators thought about any ideas for gyre?

[odd tartan]

Anyone doing any more dual swords skins at all? Would love to swing dual gladius around if possible. Nami Skyla for example. :)

Also looking forward to dual nikana if/when that becomes a thing.

[thick root]

For some reason, dual skins or scythe are still not on the list of what we can make despite being the oldest melee categories

[celest nest]

It's probably because scythes are borderline unused and have terrible stances

Dual sword I have no idea, I'm still waiting for dual prime zoren.

[celest nest]

Oh yeah, right,I should start making legg

[jagged wigeon]

Cries in Venato user

[zenith flax]

Scythe stances are high tier nowadays

[trim pier]

What is tennogen?

[hushed hound]

Community made cosmetics which you can buy for plat on consoles and for real money on pc

[trim pier]

Interesting

[past fable]

I'm making my First Tennogen.

[uneven hull]

for who?

[past fable]

for Nekros!

[celest nest]

Good job, but also import his body into the scene so you can see if it fits

[rotund nova]

Does it?

[rotund sage]

Id say the samurai helmet wouldve match more to somethin like ash, excal, equinox(night), and maybe baruuk

[zenith flax]

Oohh, I thought gara at first,

[wide plume]

It looks cool, but if I recall correctly, Tennogen cannot alter the body mesh, only the helmet.

Or is that on the baruuk mesh? Thought it was still Nekros.

[uneven hull]

it is baruuk indeed

to be honest that helm looks cool on all 3 frames

[past fable]

I coundn't uplode excalibur image.

You can see them on Twitter.

[past fable]

No problem. I just switched the body mesh. I didn't edit body mesh.

[celest nest]

Samurai Baruuk could work

[rotund sage]

I agree

[wide plume]

It did get me thinking though, like an undead Japanese Edo period themed Nekros skin would be sick.

Partial skull under the helm perhaps.

Or, stylized rather. Since I don't think you can just outright make a skull.

[past fable]

Somehow I now understand why this design did not seem to fit Nekros.
It lacks the element of the dead, which Nekros is supposed to have!
I am going to change the Nekros helm based on this shape.
Samurai Baruuk Skin looks unexpectedly good, so I think I will use Baruuk's for this helm.

[ivory imp]

From my perspective, I would change it up and make it more Warframe-y for lack of a better word

Right now it just reads as pure samurai helmet to me

[carmine lance]

You are mistaken. Samurai nekros would work. Maybe work on some armor and you have yourself an undead samurai type of thing

Also a bunch of us could make the base skin look amazing with fashion stuff

[shy swan]

Yo how do i actually make these 3d tennogen models?, i want to submit my ideas

[past fable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJuxfEtUSg&list=PLR3SGizvoHb9zRbROrhuE9vrkZ_bevSEb

This video will help you,I think.

[past fable]

I see. So it is not necessary to complete the design with only a skin?

[past fable]

The samurai helmets are cheaper, so I added a few Warframe elements.

[celest nest]

It's starting to look more warfra.e like, but I'd recommend pushing forms more into extremes. Warframe is all about rule of weird

For example, my Revenant skin was designed to be an infested samurai