builds-discussion

[novel bear]

Rolling guard won’t protect you if you don’t see a toxic eximus

[inner raptor]

yeah, no

[rancid mirage]

I use circumvent and also use rolling guard if violence and toxin jumps me together

I use both

rolling guard does help if you see the toxin proc and react fast

[novel bear]

Just use silence atp

[rancid mirage]

Ig but I also dont like bane so I often have roar

@mighty flare are you gonna elaborate on or js gonna not

[inner raptor]

subsume slot is more expensive than 1 mod imo

[rancid mirage]

I do use silence on loki tho

[opal leaf]

Wait what's this about?

[rancid mirage]

Come to think of it

[opal leaf]

Is it still about mag?

[rancid mirage]

Idk that meat guy said he doesn’t understand but he doesn’t rlly wanna explain what

but he does react to my message so idrk

[opal leaf]

@mighty flare whaf is it about hahaha

What is the one you don't understand

[rancid mirage]

I think he js doesn’t agree with my over defensive modding style

[sleek adder]

I wanna do some damage cap shenanigans with volt and opticor, should I go with normal or vandal

[inner raptor]

theres no real reason to use normal if you have the vandal from thermia fracture

[rich glacier]

I got vandal from baro. screw thermias😎

[inner raptor]

that vandal has no built in potato

[rich glacier]

idc

I already maxxed it

[rancid mirage]

Ig put every dmg multiplier that you can find and see what happens

[sleek adder]

Tharros lethality out here saving a legacy weapon like my goat opticor

[rancid mirage]

and might as slap on hotshot too

Or avenger idk which one scales better butbyea

[sleek adder]

Would probably be avenger since volt with tharros strike isn't gonna generate heat procs

[rich glacier]

One day I would like to make a calculator to see where acuity is better than multishot. I k ow there are conditionals that change depending on weapon due to base crit chance but it would be nice to have one.

[sleek adder]

It also depends on which weapons are still bugged to be multiplicative with acuity

[rancid mirage]

Hotshot can get triggered by pet so get your diriga or hound out

[sleek adder]

I see

[rich glacier]

I have never heard of that bug. Is it on the wiki?

[rancid mirage]

free red crit for everyone!

Or maybe orange if ur weapon is pure status

[sleek adder]

Some weapons scale bonkers with acuity and some don't, and it varies from weapon to weapon, you just have to check the wikis to see which ones do and don't

[rich glacier]

ok I can read then thanks

I was afraid it wouldn't be there

[sleek adder]

Unless it's patched, I don't keep up with these things

[inner raptor]

do you mean gunco instead of acuity?

[sleek adder]

Giga lads don't read patch notes

[rancid mirage]

Theres list in wiki called multiplitive crit

[rich glacier]

on wiki the note is dashed. probably fixed

[rancid mirage]

Yea one that used to hit dmg cap only hits up to 1.6b now or my build kinda sux at dmg who knows

[sleek adder]

I don't complain, still hit in the tens of millions with acuity on chakkhurr so 🤷‍♂️

[rancid mirage]

Idrk cus I js tweak my build everyday and I don’t read patch notes so

But I swear it was consistently hitting dmg cap but now its below so

[rich glacier]

low status chance is where you definitely don't want acuity. Yesterday I used the damage formula in my notepad and noticed that acuity is bettwe until you hit 400% multishot.

right 300% ms is x4 damage as you shoot 4 bullets so yeah

but ms helps with status chance

[rancid mirage]

Besides octavia and some weapons, can you get to 400% multishot without dedicating lots of build space? I never modded for super multishot so i am asking

[rich glacier]

high energy warframe with primary overcharge

[rancid mirage]

I feel like acuity is pretty good for js being a one mod

ofc not for status hose but

[sleek adder]

For single shot big numbers it's the funnier option

Rubico, chakkhurr, etc.

[rancid mirage]

yea I should try to feed some blue shards on to wisp or gauss

[novel bear]

Also don’t put acuity on beams, of course

[rich glacier]

it is better to use primed flow

difference isn't worth the shard slot

[rancid mirage]

Can you max out w js primed flow?

[novel bear]

No

[rancid mirage]

Noted

[novel bear]

It’s still very good even if you can’t max it though

[rich glacier]

I tried with my ivara trust me don't use shards for energy unless 1 takes you to next ms tier

[fierce lark]

if you get sneaky buttseggs from a toxin eximus, rolling guard isn't going to save you

it isn't usually the toxin status that kills you, it's the toxin damage from the toxin enemy rubbing up against you

[mighty flare]

the build has been lvl capped tested many times over, you could just run secondary fortifier
open arcane slot was meant for flex, so you could run circumvent if ur struggling that much, i even mentioned steadfast was flexible too

ur talking outta ur ass, don't really wanna engage with that

[rancid mirage]

I use circumvent too

[rancid mirage]

thanks for the last comment

mb ig he js got mad that I didn’t like the build

sigh I didn’t know he was gonna be this mad

[fierce lark]

you didn't say you didn't like the build, you said "this build looks like it came from someone who doesn't play mag", that's a straight up insult

[tired eagle]

Anyone got a arca plasmor build cause im getting ready for steel path again

[mighty flare]

when you insult someone, you shouldn't expect to be treated with respect

[rancid mirage]

Well sorry, I honestly js said it without thinking it be an insult

[mighty flare]

especially towards strangers

[fierce lark]

you can't imply someone doesn't know what they're talking about, especially someone who put this much work into something, and expect them not to say something back lol

[rancid mirage]

mb

[mighty flare]

you also present toxin as a major issue (its not), while mentioning wyrm as an alternative, when it won't work
toxin damage itself goes through shields, the dots are a secondary

its overall annoying and insulting

[rancid mirage]

yea, I js thought build has no status cleanse built into it, and yea I dont even use wyrm as it doesn’t scale and it’s pretty inconsistent, I use circumvent and rolling guard, I also don’t rlly use fortifier on my secondary since I feel like circumvent is better option than using fortifier

[rancid mirage]

also if you are annoyed by me then I am sorry, and its up to you to respond to me or js ignore me.

i am not gonna chase someone down for ignoring me

[fierce lark]

status cleanse isn't mandatory by any means, the most detrimental status most of the time is "knocked down"

[rancid mirage]

yea I js think he doesn’t agree w my “over defensive modding style” as I previously mentioned

[fleet veldt]

guys GAUSS WEAPONS PLATFORMER is the best thing that has happened to this game yet

[mighty flare]

lets not get it twisted when you were the one that @me

[rancid mirage]

Idk if you read the whole thread thats like all the way up there but

[fierce lark]

you can have a difference of opinion without being inflammatory, and yes i read it

[rancid mirage]

And then I stopped after you didn’t respond also I think second one was another guy

[rancid mirage]

Thats why I said he didn’t agree with my style yk

[mighty flare]

i dont particularly care about your playstyle, you just have an annoying attitude over text

[crimson cedar]

classic debate : pillage or Ophanim eyes ? 🤡

[mighty flare]

and how you present your opinions

[rancid mirage]

ok

[fierce lark]

roar

lole

[rancid mirage]

sorry for upsetting you through

I js didn’t rlly think bout it before I made my comments

which is mb

[fierce lark]

armor isn't enough of an issue anymore for me to ever think about strip subsumes, but also im playing around weapons most of the time anyway

i should use xata's more 🤔

psure it's actually just better than roar on non-dot weps

[crimson cedar]

i'm still trauma to the old armor values

when -99% armor is useless

[rancid mirage]

I think xata gets annoying if you accidentally land body shot or if you are fighting someone that has invulnerable spots

that triangle mummur guy, I proc xata and all of my bullet got redirected away and for some reason xata bubble stayed on dead limb

I think the issue was I was experimenting w astral bond and my primer diriga hit em and uh

somewhat of skill issue on my end but like I had pull out melee and jump for em

[fierce lark]

can't say i have or will ever use astral bond

[rancid mirage]

I saw a video of someone using it but I think I will just stick to my epitech

Ig if i mess up xata then js melee rq

[fierce lark]

i don’t think diriga is a good primer for guns anyway

no rbond, and the range on arc coil is only 10m, assault mode is 30

[rancid mirage]

It was xaku build and idrk if hound is better for it

Anyhow, I can js epitec and js run smeat and take off astral

[rancid mirage]

Also the guy in xaku video subsumed xatas whisper off but I think its so much effort to keep going into operator

[obsidian karma]

Can anyone link a viral dread incarnon build ?

[thorn spindle]

good?

[karmic badger]

about as good as it'll get for these pistols

[rich glacier]

Am I mathing something wrong?

acuity vs ms

tenacious bond is included as we all use it

yes I didn't add the bases but not much of a difference

[thorn spindle]

I will only use it on Warframes with nourish or Saryn

[fierce lark]

you aren’t missing anything no, acuity is always better than multishot if the assumption is you only land headshots

[karmic badger]

so basically skill issue

[fierce lark]

but running a dedicated acuity setup makes body shots deal 0 dmg

and beam weapons double dip ms on status dmg

[astral tinsel]

where's that 10.725 multiplier coming from?

[thorn spindle]

On my mesa with a build focused on secondary weapons and nourish, it's landing some red critical hits and melting level 140 Eximus

[rich glacier]

acuity increases base hs multiplier dead head is 1.3 multiplier to base hs multiplier. humanoids have 3 base, acuity is 5.25 therefore 8.25 base and deadhead gives the 10.725

[fierce lark]

8.25 was the number i read somewhere

oh you literally said before deadhead lol

[rich glacier]

obviously on other enemies it is different.

[astral tinsel]

deadhead still applies with MS though

[rich glacier]

it is the 3.9

in the end of ms you multiply your total bullets.

[fierce lark]

way i see it personally, acuity is only ever worth using as a stackless boss killer

[astral tinsel]

where are you getting exactly +200% MS from?

[rich glacier]

gav chamber

oh no this is the hs multiplier with deadhead

[astral tinsel]

ah, right

[rich glacier]

base 3 x 1.3 = 3.9

now this calculation is assuming every shot has 100% status chance

when status doesn't proc you remove the calculation on either. ms is more likely to proc as you shoot more times

oh god. You can use scourge prime(alt fire) to hit heads easier. I forgot about that

[astral tinsel]

are you applying the weak point and crit multi again to the dot?

[rich glacier]

yes. that's the additional multipliers in the formula

[astral tinsel]

I don't think they apply, that would be nuts

[rich glacier]

it is nits. I didn't know either until saryn told me

I thought it was just faction(resistance) multiplier

[astral tinsel]

unless this is some specific combo I'm not aware of

[rich glacier]

crits and hs double dip because of that

oh and this is assuming acuity takes you to the next crit tier

if base crit is low it probably won't

[astral tinsel]

ah, looking at the formula, I remember why they're there

[rich glacier]

23 is the minimum

[astral tinsel]

it's because they aren't in the modded base damage portion

so the real required MS is the square root of what you got, about 4.63

[marble marten]

Does anyone see builds of this dude?

[dusky bane]

I'd avoid youtube builds in general

[rich glacier]

Question. Can I bypass orokin bane mod in VC by shooting grineer with grineer bane and electric procs chaining into the orokin?

[versed harbor]

:/

[fierce lark]

im gonna be honest

the 143 str roar on gauss doesn't feel like it's doing anything for sunder lol

[rich glacier]

tempest barrage is best for los nuking

4.25x from aoe viral. roar is like 1.9 at full strength

armor strip too with green shard

oh green ability damage shard too

[versed harbor]

naw that implies ur always at full viral stacks

[rich glacier]

tempest barrage is instant 10 stacks

and corrosive

just make sure you don't have negative strength

status chance is equal to strength %

[versed harbor]

hm

[rich glacier]

and for follie eqch raindrop blows up barrels instantly

that's how follie works

of course if you go full range and an umbral intensify 80ish strength is not bad as you can spam as many puddles as you want

[manic canyon]

gimme a SP grendel build cause mine is NOT working sadly

[fierce lark]

idk how long it takes for tempest barrage to kill something at 9999

but sunder does it to unlimited enemies in a 30m+ radius ignoring los in about 2 seconds or less

[rich glacier]

you weapon platform him. use his 4 for aoe armor strip, his 2 for viral and you save tons of slots. use roar on his 3 or 4 if you don't mind modding corrosive

persistence too with augment so you don't even need more than 700 armor

[fierce lark]

you can also play projectile vomit nuke, gastro 4 is inf scaling

[rich glacier]

you mean lvl based?

[fierce lark]

enemy hp based but ye

[rich glacier]

sheeeeeeeee

[fierce lark]

and strips before impact

[rich glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/wowwww-wow-gif-1778939189530740229

[manic canyon]

thats kinda crazy, i didnt even know about that tech

[crimson cedar]

just read the wiki

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[rich glacier]

does his augment with full viral stacks mean 10x4.25 x 3?

[latent adder]

https://overframe.gg/build/547378/grendel-prime/the-eternal-hunger-regurgitate-dps-grendel-non-helminth/

If u can hit 500 str then u can stay immortal forever

U need to drop overextended and use some serious conditional buffs

[glass moon]

whos better for like general use

wukong or 4 focused voruna

got both of their primes rotting in my foundry got no clue on who to build first

[latent adder]

Voruna is better with melees

Wukong is stronger as an exalted if u compare to ulfrun

Both are pretty fast at moving

Id say voruna overall better tho

Although I do like wukong for spy and rescue etc

[glass moon]

wukongs cloud has omnidirectional movement right

guess ill build him up first then

[modest vector]

hi guys what companion do yall think i shud run with cyte? wyrm or dethcubey or do i go sometehing else

[manic canyon]

panzer always goes crazy

[old marsh]

Shade/Huras in case your evade keeps running out
Wyrm/Diriga otherwise (use with augments based on needs)
Panzer/Hounds for priming

[glass moon]

does wukongs cloud benefit from sprint speed stuff

like the praedos upgrade

[rancid mirage]

shade fs

[crimson cedar]

nope, it's not sprinting

you'll need " movement speed " buff

not "sprint speed "

[glass moon]

alr

[pure kiln]

holy hell

[marble marten]

It's worse in the general Warframe chat, they literally send builds with random arcanes lol

[glass moon]

doesnt nezhas subsume give stagger immunity and a movement speed buff

was thinking about putting that on wukong and just running some persistence build on him

[crimson cedar]

i'll run Wukong 0 forma ( trumbra, adrenaline ) persistence, works very nice. Even 0 forma on his staff ( melee influence ) and crush ez SP200+

[glass moon]

ninjase really got a build for everything bruh

[crimson cedar]

yep Nezha infusion add +25% movement speed, but not STR related

[glass moon]

this man has a persistence build for wukong on overframe

[glass moon]

what about the stagger immunity thing

[crimson cedar]

i'm running PSF so ... 🤷🏻

[glass moon]

damn

[crimson cedar]

but it seems protect to all status, it's a strong choice

[glass moon]

i read the wiki and it said being in the flame trail makes me status immune

but what about like having it on then running around

will i have status immunity

or do i need to stand still on the fire trail for that

[crimson cedar]

guessing flames spawn at your exact location, so you're all the time "in" the flame path

[inner raptor]

daily reminder that fire trails modifier is the same as nezha's fire walker. so tanky grineers stay tanky -___-

falcor xoris cerata or coda pathocyst which one is better for general use?

'melee' melees make stacking chroma buff too slow

[crimson cedar]

use Thalys instead 😄

[inner raptor]

this thing nukes my fps so no thank you

[crimson cedar]

hardware issue 👀

falcor/xoris have forced elec proc iirc, making more damage instances, if it count for chroma's buff stacks

after reading the wiki, melee kills count, not damages hits/instances ( i'm not used to ), so you want a melee with fast killing group ennemies

well, Zaw + Exodia contagion moment

[versed harbor]

xoris or falcor ideal

chroma vex armor dmg buff unintentionally makes glaives crazy

multiplicative iirc

[inner raptor]

still waiting for reruns im brokety broke to even imagine buying contagion

[glass moon]

do wukongs 234 and nezhas firewalker have a long cast time

cant decide if i should go all in on wukong with 5 tau melee crit damage

or 3 of them and 2 taus for cast speed

[inner raptor]

do glaive explosion have any knockdown or ragdolls?

[versed harbor]

ye

[glass moon]

ofc

[inner raptor]

interesting

for enemy not for self?

[versed harbor]

for self

[glass moon]

for self

[inner raptor]

kek

[glass moon]

throw it at the ground with volatile rebound and see what happens

[versed harbor]

just staggers enemies I think usually they just die tho

[inner raptor]

would be interesting if you can affliction cerata with the toxin proc. anyway falcor it is just gonna google how to get one

[glass moon]

i mean you could just

use the readily available xoris

so uh

do wukongs 234 and nezhas firewalker have a long cast time

long enough to consider using 2 cast speed shards

or do i just go all in violet crit damage

[versed harbor]

firewalker is pretty quick but theres never any harm in 1 casting shard

[glass moon]

wb cloudwalker and defy

[versed harbor]

idk why you'd run firewalker tho tbh but its fine

[glass moon]

ion have psf

and it has movement speed

and leaving a fire trail when i walk around sounds cool so

https://tenor.com/view/lucki-shh-lucki-shh-gif-3245291727502780352

[versed harbor]

is it actual status immunity I thought it was just cleanse if you walk on the fire

the usual status immunity subsume is spellbind

[glass moon]

i think it does

doesnt the fire spawn on your feet or something

[versed harbor]

it does ye

[glass moon]

so technically youre always on the fire trail

[versed harbor]

its probably worth testing tbh comments on the wiki are saying they still get staggered

[rich glacier]

I prefer the other status immunity helminth as it is permanent and charges based like revenant

[inner raptor]

usually how many months/years before new weapon dispo get moved up from 1?

[inner raptor]

damn xoris is so slow without whirlwind

[hallow pewter]

hey guys so this is my build on this gun my question heat or electricity if i'm using viral and what to put in the empty slot ??

[paper flame]

yo hows perigale riven mod
and sobek riven

[green gyro]

electricity cause the primed mod does more damage

empty slot for magnetic strafe

[inner raptor]

Perigale prime with riven is unusable atm since all new weapons start with 1 disposition

Though perigale prime is still a ridiculously strong gun on its own

[paper flame]

ohkkk

what abt sobek?

[mellow nimbus]

what's the fastest melee room clear for low level missions?

[crimson cedar]

not using melee but abilities

[hexed lodge]

heat if fighting armor, electricity if anything else
might sound weird, but i'd add magazine size to the phantasma or QoL, that ammo + mag size can be uncomfy

[crimson cedar]

he use Primary crux for ammo capacity (efficiency)

and more status, it's fine

[hexed lodge]

even with Crux, but tbf that's also up to preference too

[hexed lodge]

prob Glaives with Influence, or slam weapons like Magistar or Arca Titron

[latent adder]

bounce falcor, sampotes, nami solo incarnon also

although you really cant beat magistar

[mellow nimbus]

glaives are awesome. my main issue is that when the host has a high ping it's difficult to time the explosion. 🙁

[hexed lodge]

use bounce glaives like Ninjase suggested, no need to time anything

[mellow nimbus]

i guess i'll go back to sampotes and nami solo
magistar is great yeah, problem is when the ceiling is so low you can't jump high enough to increase the slam radius

ohhh you mean regular throw, and not the explosion

okay thanks!

[latent adder]

yeah bounce falcor real lazy

[modest vector]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[latent adder]

and yeah sampotes is great cuz u dont need to jump high

[astral cipher]

Does anyone have a good damage calculator they like to use? Because I'm trying to figure out this build for my EB and wasn't sure if I should replace the magnetic property with just a pure heat additive for some armor stripping allowing for viral to take more effect or if I should super lean heavy into the viral status and push it as much as I can, damage calculation is a lot more complicated that I realize and I'm losing track so easily

[crimson cedar]

paper + pen , and the wiki open

[mellow nimbus]

just tested it. frigin brilliant! demolishes lvl 200 corrupted heavy gunner eximus. thanks for your guides! cheers!

[mental steppe]

how much would -status chance on a riven gut the soma prime?
with 3% in incarnon mode it doesnt sound that bad, but it can really add up with multishot

[old marsh]

not if u use Crux, which u should anyways

[crimson osprey]

Hey possibly dumb question.. im messing with harmony- does tennokai work with thlse heavy attacks?

[wary forge]

it kills it

[old marsh]

bad for selling. good for using

[wary forge]

i also wouldnt roll soma

just buy a riv for it they arent that expensive

[crimson osprey]

Any idea?

[brittle sleet]

Yes, Tennokai heavy attacks still count as heavy attacks so everything procs

Tennokai still generally isn't worth it on Harmony though compared to just heavy spamming

[crimson osprey]

I feel heavy spamming is clunky, slow

[brittle sleet]

Maybe a Truth's Flame build is a banger on it though

[crimson osprey]

That kinda goes with ajy melee weapon

[brittle sleet]

Harmony is just entirely built around its heavy attacks doing stupid DPS

[crimson osprey]

Still feels clunky

Like heavyi nikana clunky

🤷just my opinion

[brittle sleet]

Yeah play the game to your comfort not necessarily what's optimal

[rancid mirage]

Do you use heavy attk wind up mods to make animation faster and still feel clunky?

[brittle sleet]

Still, Truth's Flame extending Tennokai opportunities would maximize DPS that way, maybe optimal in general for Harmony since it came out

Haven't looked into build updates for that

[crimson osprey]

Yea.. to be fair this harmony is for my Dante loadout and I rarely need weapons at all for him

[brittle sleet]

Dante especially kinda doesn't care about Harmony since 334 does the same thing

[crimson osprey]

Thematic and fun weapons are the name of the game for my loadout. Not tanky any melee fits him

[crimson osprey]

Yup, nor just something else to use to mix up gameplay

That new skin looks good too.

Haven't figured a decent primary to fit an owl caster frame yet

[vast pelican]

Hello, anyone know wich is the best build for yareli prime??

[opal leaf]

With Loyal Merulina mod?

Do you have that Augment for Yareli?

[vast pelican]

idk where i obtain that

[timber sparrow]

so youre not using it 👍

[opal leaf]

Ah so you don't have Loyal Merulina

[vast pelican]

Nope

[opal leaf]

Well Samyette is cooking up something, might check it when theyre done

I'm not really fond with Yarelli aside she is a very good CC frame too

[vast pelican]

okey

[timber sparrow]

yareli is a girlie that needs strength the most because most gameplay (either with loyal or not) is spamming sea snares due to its use as crowd control (not strength but range) and damage vulnerability

i play with this and its comfortable but should swap intensify adaptation

merulina guardian important here because it allows merulina to heal when you kill sea snared enemies and when she heals gets fire rate and reload speed buffs

[brittle sleet]

Always run either Merulina Guardian or Loyal Merulina once you have access to them

[timber sparrow]

but basically you can just slap on:
merulina guardian
flow
strength mods
equilibrium
some range too if you use the 4 (i dont)

[brittle sleet]

Until you have Loyal Merulina, it's recommended to run subsumes that either have long durations (Roar is fine), that channel (Gloom can stay active the entire time you're on Merulina), or just no subsume (Aquablades aren't amazing but clear trash in non-steel path and add passive DPS + crate breaking

The 4 is very good please don't neglect it, it has very solid base range and when it explodes it can break crates as well

Grouping goes really hard with a lot of secondaries too

[gusty grove]

Can someone tell me how do I improve this build further

[elfin sluice]

speed trigger has a few alternatives that should bump up the DPS, and terminal velocity can be shoved into the exilus slot to free up room for something else.

[brittle sleet]

Base damage source that isn't built up stacks from Deadhead might be nice instead of Terminal Velocity

[timber sparrow]

it doesnt matter when using an aoe secondary and everything in the area dies from 1 shot anyways

[brittle sleet]

Alternatively electric for a damage status

[crimson cedar]

yes, BUT you should mod for elec damage, cuz the first elec DOT hit at tick0, not tick1, resulting to help to OHK heavy targets (if they don't die from the all slash procs bypassing armor)
i'm late for the reponse maybe

[elfin sluice]

(note: if you go with electric/heat, put the toxin mod where terminal velocity currently is and put the electric/heat where toxin currently is, so that you don't lose the viral)

[brittle sleet]

Half of your aoe secondaries are benefitting greatly from chain beam mechanics, if you're doing one shot kills then you're gonna benefit from having the enemies grouped together for punch through. The grouping also makes elec status DPS a lot better

It very much increases the variety of things you can kill with and decreases the time to kill them

[glass moon]

is it worth using another umbra forma on this just so i can change steel charge into corrosive projection

[civic shore]

Guys, in a saryn sobek build, does range serve any purpose? for any ability asssuming we have subsumed roar over 4

[glass moon]

nope

you can run neg strength with narrow minded

it dont really matter

[civic shore]

the reason why iam asking is , in kyaii (youtuber) he had a lot of range on his saryn build

https://youtu.be/ZKXovIUaxYs?si=QkM3NcMvRpVqSh8R
this in particular

[glass moon]

i mean it helps in spreading spores ig

[hexed lodge]

it shouldn't affect Sobek, only Spores and Miasma's range for... statuses/priming ig?

[glass moon]

yep

[civic shore]

he subsumed miasma

[glass moon]

you dont really need range

just get more duration and strength

and survivability

[civic shore]

Allright ill share my build , you guys tell

[glass moon]

just run something like ninjases build

he got something for everything

[hexed lodge]

bruh
tbf it's kyaii, he doesn't make most of his builds, he mainly copies and presents the builds

[glass moon]

isnt that one everyone does lol

[civic shore]

this

[glass moon]

either shit build or copied

energize

are we deadass

😭

[hexed lodge]

pretty much, hence why it's difficult to find the good builders in yt/overframe outside of ninjase

[glass moon]

why run umbral int

just swap that shit for equilibrium

and replace energize with molt augmented

[opal leaf]

It's BASICALLY Cyte, Saryn and Oraxia's best primary

[rich glacier]

uriel too

[civic shore]

strength doesnt help?

[opal leaf]

He ass on it, like Xaku

I mean much better than Xaku but yea

[glass moon]

you get more strength by running my suggestion

250 kills is nothing to saryn w sobek

[civic shore]

yeah that makes sense

[glass moon]

and get more starting mod capacity

more starting energy

min max things

[hexed lodge]

Build looks fine, not sure if you need Cata tho.
You could try to find a way to insert Narrow Minded. I agree with the molt.aug + equilibrium suggestion, but only if you are playing for longer missions and/or high lvl sp, if not, energize would probably better due to the lack of eximus

[civic shore]

unfortunately i dont have a lot of shard 🙁

[glass moon]

huh

[opal leaf]

How far are you in the game?

[edgy lance]

what stats should i be looking for on a epitaph riven?

[glass moon]

what do shards have to do with with mod cap

[civic shore]

i ran cat due to survivablity issues,

[glass moon]

also

[civic shore]

u said starting energy,its yellow i beleive

[glass moon]

more unused mod capacity gives more starting energy

you can polarize everything without needing an umbra forma

[hexed lodge]

Leftover mod capacity gives you more starting energy when you start the mission, each unused space gives you +5 energy when spawned

[glass moon]

and get the most starting energy possible

optimization

[civic shore]

The 14 extra here gives extra energy?

[glass moon]

yes

[civic shore]

wow , thankyou i never knew that

[opal leaf]

Wait why do you have Cata? Shield gate?

[civic shore]

ty aswell

[glass moon]

thats just how great warframe is

[opal leaf]

Ur not doing active tho

[glass moon]

you learn something new everyday

[opal leaf]

Is she an active shield gater ?

[civic shore]

yes no active i ahte spamming 2

[hexed lodge]

Saryn's base starting energy = 100
100 + (14 x 5) = 170 starting energy

[spiral chasm]

Is the augur mod on your pet?

[opal leaf]

If you're using Cata then where are the Augur mod hahaha

[glass moon]

huh

arent augur mods on pistols

[hexed lodge]

sort of, yes with Molt, gotta be a bit careful cause it can drain your energy suddenly

[glass moon]

and companion weap

[spiral chasm]

Yeah basically what i was implying shouldve said better

[opal leaf]

Oh I see, so she spammy spammy sometimes.... But what's weird is they have Cata but NO augur/brief

[glass moon]

i mean they could just run a random ass pistol with one augur mod

not that hard

[opal leaf]

I mean sure to get that small window but... Eh

[opal leaf]

Maybe, that's why we're asking hahaha

[glass moon]

also

[hexed lodge]

Prob augur mods somewhere else, and also they are doing typical lazy gatin (Fast Def + Vig Vigor + Aegis)

[civic shore]

So someone told me there is some interaction or bug maybe with vigor ,aegis and caT

[glass moon]

if i get cold prog elem on this

can i drop chilling grasp

or would it be better if i keep it

[opal leaf]

That's... No I think... No

It's augur and Cata

Youre just doing the lazy/passive shield gate

[glass moon]

ill also swap the cleanse mod with clip delegation

what do yall think

[civic shore]

Yes , i dont know the specifics but its helps me better at staying alive than using augur mods and then use 2 for sheild gating

[glass moon]

whats the play here

[opal leaf]

Eh fair I mean... It's quite of a waste of slot but... Sure

[crimson osprey]

Any good thematically weapons for Dante? I kmow he doesnt really need weapons, but i like creating loadouts... nothing really screams caster owl 🤷

[opal leaf]

Go electric.... On KSobek >:3

[glass moon]

and buy primed charged shell

[opal leaf]

Cedo

[glass moon]

hell no

[crimson osprey]

Can ya explain.

[glass moon]

but anyways what do i do with the build

do i still need primed chilling grasp for more cold

[hexed lodge]

you could but... Faction mods is what turns acid shells to an 11 (after the "additional hit" mechanic too)

[glass moon]

eh too lazy to swap configs for every mission type

[opal leaf]

Idk it just screams "I'm gonna put magic dust in them" typa stuff (with the alt)

[glass moon]

but like

what do i do with primed chilling grasp

if i get 60% cold on the sobek

do i drop it for something like

crit decel lol

[crimson osprey]

And maybe beyond harmony i was thinking g a glaive as a melee

[opal leaf]

Maybe, we'll idk, he has a Grimoire on his 1st skill... That's thematically his only weapon...

And I don't play Dante

[crimson osprey]

Lol yea

[hexed lodge]

maybe add the %60 magnetic mod?

[glass moon]

alr

but lowk

is cyte sobek much much better than saryn sobek

what yall think

[hexed lodge]

different meal, same flavor

[glass moon]

does cyte do better kpm wise

[crimson cedar]

Cyte + Sobek (elec) is something yeah

[wary forge]

leagues better

he mogs sayrn

[wary forge]

what do u think

[glass moon]

damn

guess ill just wait for cyte prime then

[quiet laurel]

just build a cyte rn?

[glass moon]

i am

for his subsume

[quiet laurel]

*just use cyte rn?

[glass moon]

the frame looks ass ngl

ion got enough plat for his proto yet

[quiet laurel]

he is insanely good and versatile

can make weapons with ammo issues have no ammo issues

has free 300% CC

has infinite terrain PT

[undone dust]

as well as 10 weapon pt

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440505629549793290/1489085535598284932/kuvabert.gif

[quiet laurel]

has separate dmg instance for any element

has invis if you can headshot on the build

[glass moon]

is his exalted any good

[quiet laurel]

no

[undone dust]

it can be cool

[glass moon]

man

[undone dust]

but sobek is cooler so

[glass moon]

to the chair he goes then

i got enough frames for guns

[quiet laurel]

or lemme rephrase, its decent, but any other weapon will do much better than his sniper

[quiet laurel]

bros missing out

[glass moon]

wukongs cloud has omni movement right

is it like same speed regardless of direction

so like i can just go backwards with it and go just as fast as going forward

[crimson cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRE--GWyxpQ
@vestal temple coldward + diriga/spinnerex exposed 🙁

[marble marten]

Nukor or glaxion?

[drifting ether]

Thoughts on my Acceltra prime?

[glass moon]

galv ap and scope on the acceltra

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[spark thorn]

New to kullervo. Did I do ok?

[compact cypress]

yareli build, does archon intensify work with merulina guardian?
also i remember something about a good kitgun but cant remember its parts if anyone can put me on fr

[glass moon]

you do not need fiber man

literally just put in one normal + armor archon shard

and itll be enough to proc persistence

[spark thorn]

I mostly have it there for the set bonus

[compact cypress]

would be better off using transient fortitude no?

[glass moon]

i mean you could put in primed flow

[compact cypress]

oh yeah

[glass moon]

and thatll be enough energy for the purple cdmg shards

[compact cypress]

esp if you wanna use purple shards

[glass moon]

tri umbral kullervo everywhere man

ts killing me

[spark thorn]

I dont got mixed shards yet

[compact cypress]

heres my usual kullervo

thinking i should drop stretch considering i have piss poor range anyways

[wary forge]

u want way more range

[compact cypress]

this builds honestly just for light attacks and i dont touch his 3 a lot

[glass moon]

your 3 not doing shit with neg range

[glass moon]

then why kullervo 😭

[compact cypress]

heres my other one

[glass moon]

his curse is his whole thing

can just subsume wa on another frame

[wary forge]

doesnt matter if ur using his 3 or not u want range for 2

[compact cypress]

oh true that

[spark thorn]

But why? I have arcane battery I have plenty of energy.

[glass moon]

max energy

[compact cypress]

should i drop equilibrium?

[glass moon]

for this

[wary forge]

no

[spark thorn]

I dont have those yet. I said this

[glass moon]

youll get there eventually

[spark thorn]

Just RYBs

[wary forge]

this is the build i mean u could drop equi for shards ig

[compact cypress]

ive got all crit shards 😭

wait let me cook

[wary forge]

you dont need 4 crit shards

[glass moon]

how do you live with that long ass cast anim on roar

jesus

he feels so slow without 2 tau yellows for cast speed

[spark thorn]

Im already over 500 energy with arcane battery though

[wary forge]

roars not that bad

[compact cypress]

never bothered me tbh

only issue is that sucky duration

[glass moon]

i mean you could just drop transfort for more duration

and use molt augmented for more strength

but goddamn

[wary forge]

you dont need that much duration

[glass moon]

no cast speed shards and low duration

how do people play like that

[compact cypress]

the way god intended

[hexed lodge]

Yes A.intensify works on Meru Guardian

[compact cypress]

this guys also eaten the last of my tau yellows too

[glass moon]

real shit lol

[compact cypress]

thnx bbg

[glass moon]

triple cast speed gang

too bad dante is boring as shit

i wouldve put him in the chair if he didnt have 9 formas

[compact cypress]

yeah im too far into having him built to helminth him

only once that prime comes out ig

ong same as my kullervo too

[edgy lance]

guys can i get some help with a nukor riven choice? XD

[glass moon]

is this good on the torid

w shock trooper

or do i drop rifle elementalist for something else

[wary forge]

go corrosive blast

[glass moon]

why

wouldnt viral elec be better

or something

🐒

[hexed lodge]

still do corr+blast? shock trooper won't mix with your elemental mods

[glass moon]

alr

how do i mod it for corro blast

does ninjase have a build for that shit

nvm he does

[stiff flower]

hello! i have a question :3 what is a good build for ash prime to use all of stalkers weapons?

roar helminth over 1?

[wary forge]

if ur not using his 4 its the subumse

[hexed lodge]

that is such a niche/thematic playstyle lol

[full topaz]

I’ve started getting Arcanes for my primary and secondary weapon from defeating Acolytes on the Steel Path.

The big question is, which secondary do I put my Arcane on?

[wary forge]

theres atleast 6 or 7 options

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[full topaz]

So far, my options are:

•Akmagnus Prime.
•Akstiletto Prime.
•Afuris Prime.
•Twin Grakatas.
•Stubba.

[quiet laurel]

and all those suck

[hexed lodge]

[compact cypress]

yeah... stick to ur primaries big dawg

https://giphy.com/gifs/hand-on-shoulder-it-might-seem-crazy-what-im-bout-to-say-himai-ku4g299NsSzEXlF89y

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-drink-cool-down-sucking-mouse-job-gif-12109306

[full topaz]

I will find a good secondary.

[wary forge]

ok.

[hexed lodge]

pls tell me at least one of them has a potato installed for the meantime

[full topaz]

Yee.

[crimson cedar]

Dual Toxocyst (incarnon), good secondary

[full topaz]

Toxocyst? Okay.

[hexed lodge]

Laetum is pretty early-game friendly too

[full topaz]

I’ll look through my arsenal for ideas.

[drifting ether]

Is that a bad thing?

[full topaz]

Hmmmmmm…

[compact cypress]

galv ap and aoe weapons are a no

[drifting ether]

Oh ok. What's normally the norm?

[glass moon]

yeah

why are you trying to mod it like a single target weap

its something you spray to clear out fodder

[drifting ether]

Honestly I dont know what im doing haha

[glass moon]

fair enough

https://overframe.gg/build/591687/acceltra-prime/acceltra-prime-viral-heat-general-use-with-variants/

just run this

[drifting ether]

Alright

[hexed lodge]

i'd just swap Scope for a heat mod and should improve a lot

[drifting ether]

Thank you!

[glass moon]

is this good

[stray spindle]

Which is better?

[glass moon]

crita

can run viral heat soma with the left lol

[wary forge]

go aptitude over heacy cal

[hexed lodge]

heavy caliber
remove Armaments for Elementalist

[stray spindle]

Thought the multishot might eke it out

[glass moon]

galv or normal

[wary forge]

galv if ur primary is using it

[glass moon]

alr

[wary forge]

if not go normal

works the same way like chamber

[glass moon]

this good now

[wary forge]

yes

[glass moon]

alr thanks

[grim saddle]

So I wanna put silence on Valkyr as a comfort ability against acolytes. Should I swap it for grapple or paralysis?

[wary forge]

np

[wary forge]

since u arent on galv ap go seration over vig armorments

for base dmg

[compact cypress]

the comfort is 1 shotting them no?

also paralysis if u do

[glass moon]

is the difference between vig arm and serration noticeable

i lowk dont wanna spend 30k endo to max out normal serration

[grim saddle]

It’s mostly against violence so the mf doesn’t silence me

[grim saddle]

I figured. Was asking cause the damage vulnerability is nice but only when it has its augment while grapple has a better pull effect

[tough beacon]

The first rule with Violence is to start rolling and then go back in with Valkyr to wail on them lol

[compact cypress]

yeah ill always preach that ripline is worth keeping

[tough beacon]

Or 12x Tennokai stomp infront of them comfortably oneshots Acolytes in my experience

[grim saddle]

me using truths flame for the extra damage

[grim saddle]

That and it’s an instant combo build up

[wary forge]

How do you not have seration maxed

[tough beacon]

Ripline is such a good mobility tool that I subsumed Valkyr's 3 instead

[wary forge]

Or just one shot it because you’re using valk

[tough beacon]

Yeah fair but then there is that one Acolyte whose first move on spawn is to cast Magnetize on you

So you swipe them once you suddenly explode

[glass moon]

sold it for endo to max out amalgam serration

[compact cypress]

yup

[wary forge]

You still one shot it and ur not gonna die to mag proc unless ur doing level cap but u also still have death gate or can just go into operator

[compact cypress]

high range valk is the way

[knotty shadow]

anyone beginner xoris build

[opal leaf]

Is there an "acceptable" damage for Volt? Bc I'm confidently going 154%.

just scared if suddenly I didn't know that there is a cap on smth I ddi not know

[wary forge]

Just go heavy cal then ig

[opal leaf]

(God damn redundancy)

I need to keep reading and fix my grammar

[tough beacon]

100% range Valkyr is already pretty high range imo

I can group people and also Ripline up to 75m to a hard surface

[grim saddle]

Better view

[wary forge]

Adaption

[opal leaf]

Hold thyselves hahahha

[grim saddle]

Yeh

[tough beacon]

I guess if you are not running Persistence or not constantly in 4

[wary forge]

Why would you not go persistence of constantly be in ur 4 tho

[grim saddle]

Oh shi

I forgot about persistence

[wary forge]

Also no eternal war

[grim saddle]

Why use eternal war when i can recast it?

[tough beacon]

Saves you Hella mana but I am running Blind Rage + Umbra mods for the ultimate murder blender setup

I only cast Nourish to proc Viral really but I can hand that over to a pet and replace 3 with Roar instead

[grim saddle]

I have my panzer proc viral for me

Silence over her 3 mainly for the acolytes

But what’s wrong with adaptation?

[tough beacon]

That is fair, not much to slot in there tbh, I also sometimes do Amar's Rage or w/e the one that gives tiny strength and armor

[glass moon]

the nami solo is the best light attack influence melee right

[grim saddle]

I also have praedos on for extra parkour velocity

[tough beacon]

Though rolling guard might be a little better for Status cleanse but I do get why not everyone plays it, rolling CD is weird when I use rolling for chain mobility

[grim saddle]

I would use rolling guard if I had it

[tough beacon]

It is just 20 vitus essence—

[magic cargo]

hey guys i wanna do a heavy focus build for thalys, any tips?

[grim saddle]

And 30k endo

U gonna give me a maxed out rolling guard?

[tough beacon]

okay not quite yet lul

[grim saddle]

Yeah thought so

[tough beacon]

I am tryna max Archwing primed mods for next update

[grim saddle]

Killing blow

[grim saddle]

I just need to max out primed combustion rounds

[next tendon]

Coda Caustacyst

build pls

[grim saddle]

Wish it had a unique trait but it doesn’t

[grim saddle]

Melee influence build with innate electricity

[tough beacon]

Tbh the gimmick for Caustacyst is pretty mid, just run Influence on it lol

[next tendon]

try out influence blast build 😉

[grim saddle]

Or gas

[tough beacon]

Blast + Electric Exalted Blade Melee Influence is funny as hell

[next tendon]

i nuked eximua heavy gunner in simuvularum

with influence blast

[grim saddle]

U just gave me an idea

Volts 1 on Valkyr for electric proc then build claws for blast

Hol up gng

Well first I need to subsume a volt

[next tendon]

for valkyra 4skill?

[grim saddle]

Yeh

[tough beacon]

Shock Trooper Valkyr basically

[grim saddle]

Yep

[tough beacon]

But Ripline is such a good tool

Oof, hard choice

[grim saddle]

Shock trooper would go over paralysis

[tough beacon]

Yeah Paralysis is my Subsume for Nourish as well just for Viral Procs since I prefer running Contagion on Nautilus

[last wing]

Hey, so im a little confused about my magistar build, which would you say is the better build out of these 2 configs?

[next tendon]

bro try out caustacyst blast influence

[grim saddle]

I mean

[last wing]

this is for a slam build

[next tendon]

it nuked everything around it

[near vortex]

Afflictions to Exposure and Vicious Frost to Focus Radon

[tough beacon]

Galvanized Steel is good for immediate slamming without too much buildup but Sacrificial is more DPS overall as Red Crits go crazy

[warm obsidian]

Thoughts on this?

https://overframe.gg/build/816108/cedo-prime/cedo-prime-maximum-raw-dps-viral-elec-corrosive-cold-and-priming-glaive/

[last wing]

hmm i don't have both doe 😂😭

[near vortex]

Get a rank 0 exposure
Does the same thing as r5 but builds up slower

Focus Radon comes from Murmur I think

[last wing]

ahh i see, but when i test both builds, config A is as you said, more redcrits (1,9 - 2,2 M), but config B is higher damage (peaked at 3 - 3,4 M)

[last wing]

ahh okay okay, on which config would i use it on? B or A

[near vortex]

I think config A if no purple shards and config B with purple shards

[next tendon]

its better on influence build to use condition overload?

[last wing]

yeah i don't have purple shards, im still new

[last wing]

so the status would be toxin and rad?

[near vortex]

Usually yeah

Especially if you prime with Diriga or something

[near vortex]

Yeah

Normally you do primed fever strike but you must not have that

[last wing]

i actually use diriga to prime though

[last wing]

yes 😭

[near vortex]

Was talking to the other guy

[last wing]

ah mb

[near vortex]

Toxin goes through corpus shields and you don't actually care about the radiation damage on Focus Radon, you take that so you can slam at 8x more often

[next tendon]

i tried caustacyst blast influence build

but till i have build up damage with it im already dead

[last wing]

ahh okay okay, thank you so much i will try your suggestion!

[viscid bane]

worth slotting?

2/5 dispo

[green gyro]

they are all bad, magistar doesnt care about status whatsoever

[timber sparrow]

hm.

[green gyro]

https://overframe.gg/build/668910/magistar/slamistar-x-5-combo-slam-spam-magistar-tox-corro-variants/

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[viscid bane]

Stats themselves are okay to my knowledge? is it the dispo?

[old marsh]

dispo

[next tendon]

which magistar its better?

[green gyro]

the one I linked

[old marsh]

normal

[green gyro]

oh you mean sancti vs normal

[next tendon]

why?

[next tendon]

yes

[old marsh]

incarnon stats

[green gyro]

sancti does way less damage

[viscid bane]

It overtakes in damage with incarnon buffs

[green gyro]

like way less

[next tendon]

lol i have installed incarnon on sacti .-.

[old marsh]

Tenet Magistar or Magistar Prime plz DE. and my life is yours

[old marsh]

u can remove and install on normal

[viscid bane]

you can uninstall it and install it onto a normal one

[next tendon]

will i get the ressources back?

[old marsh]

no

[next tendon]

hahahah

im lacking ressource

[old marsh]

if u dont wanna spend resources then u can still clap enemies just as easily

i say this coz i used to have it on my Sancti

i switched it like a year after

[next tendon]

nice

[next tendon]

this one good?

[old marsh]

very

u can get CC from Sac Steel

and that riven can easily replace corrupt charge

this way u can maintain x8 IC

[brittle sleet]

Sancti is still very valuable despite the DPS difference due to its life steal and status resistance passives, don't feel offput by investing into it

[next tendon]

whats the fastest way to farm rune marrow

[old marsh]

no idea. never had to. i got allmy marrow from circuit

[brittle sleet]

The problem I see with that riven is the reduced heavy efficiency will reduce the speed at which your initial combo regens after a heavy

[next tendon]

i see

[brittle sleet]

Not always a problem but can be

[next tendon]

ok thx

[old marsh]

ye. that is a problem but with reflex its tolerable. and u have to jump high for a slam anyways

[brittle sleet]

Potentially replacing Pressure Point and Corrupt Charge both is still solid

[next tendon]

mire or magistar better?

[brittle sleet]

They do kinda different things but generally speaking Magistar is better

[timber monolith]

Would rousing plunder and viral tempest make it possible for hydroid to be a weapon platform (viral procs from 1 and plunder adding corro to weapons maybe)?

[old marsh]

Magistar over Mire personally but Mire is more flexible how u can build it

[next tendon]

i see

[brittle sleet]

Mire doing gas cloud shenanigans be pretty fun though

[next tendon]

can i build to mire as no slam build?

[old marsh]

ye

[next tendon]

i dont find any video about it

[mighty flare]

dont need rousing plunder, hydroid is ok platformer, don't want too high strength cuz it ruins corro weighting on most weapons

[timber monolith]

Noted.

[last wing]

is there a reason?

[green gyro]

yes, sancti gets much lower buffs from the incarnon adapter

[tardy lily]

weird question, does anyone know how Xata's Whisper and Breach Surge interact

[last wing]

ohh umm, i just installed in on my sancti today

[tardy lily]

IIRC Cavalero can remove incarnon adapters, so you should be okay

[last wing]

the formas 🙁

[tardy lily]

ahh, fair

[green gyro]

just remove it and put it on base magistar

forma is ez to get

[brittle sleet]

Again, not a mistake per se to build the Sancti version, just gotta know the difference in what you're building. Magistar is raw DPS and kills, while Sancti provides healing and status resistance. If all you wanted was DPS then this does suck but you can find unique use for the Sancti version at least, especially on health tank frames

[old marsh]

and 23 hrs to craft

[viscid bane]

How mcuh do Vectis rivens go for now?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-billions-money-cash-plenty-gif-10135114

[last wing]

thank you

[last wing]

but how much damage do you actually need

[green gyro]

I've been crafting for a while, also plague star

[brittle sleet]

Depends on the content you want to run through

[green gyro]

if you wanna do cascade then it matters otherwise it's whatever

[old marsh]

u look broke homie. 13 omnis. go grind some more or buy from market

[green gyro]

I have used a lot of Omni

[brittle sleet]

For the most part, yeah, level cap is where the regular Magistar is noticeably shining

[last wing]

ahh okay

[green gyro]

probably about 100 idk

[old marsh]

now u get it

[green gyro]

I only have 500+ forma cause I have nothing left to build

I'm low on omni cause I still use it

[surreal bane]

What do you guys run for your companions? I like my dawg but i have 0 claw mods for him

[last wing]

and lets say i build the regular magistar fully using the build that @green gyro linked, how much damage would i be doing per slam XD

[green gyro]

you can check the calculator in the description

[wary forge]

He’s a top 3 wp with just his base kit

[brittle sleet]

All of the damage

[old marsh]

100+ Million

[last wing]

I did not know this feature exist

[mighty flare]

pushing it

[wary forge]

Cat drilling gif

[green gyro]

it's not a feature

[mighty flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050078382018265178/1454397083413909630/ezgif-395a166e2e34663d.gif

[green gyro]

it's a separate spreadsheet linked in the description

[green gyro]

ya that's just wrong lol

[wary forge]

How so

[brittle sleet]

Depends what you're looking for. I'm personally partial to unique utility companions like Oxylus, Helios, and Wyrm. If not that I usually use a looter beast with retriever mods

[last wing]

i just opened it

[green gyro]

cyte>saryn>mirage???

how is he competing with any of them

[last wing]

warframe gets rather complex

[wary forge]

I mean yeah he’s not top 3

You could maybe say top 5

[green gyro]

not even

[old marsh]

Volt, Gyre, Harrow, and list goes on. not sure where Hydroid lands. maybe 15th place?

[wary forge]

Hydroid is better then gyre and harrow

Like leagues better

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/itachi-itachi-uchiha-naruto-anime-gif-gif-6980510505105788152

[mighty flare]

gyre is not allat

[brittle sleet]

Hydroid will be neat for being sorta weapon class agnostic as far as a weapon platform goes, while Kullervo, Volt, and the Sobek users are specialized for certain weapon classes

[green gyro]

harrow is pretty good

[tardy lily]

Does anyone know how Xata's Whisper and Breach Surge interact?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[green gyro]

ye gyre doesn't actually do much

[last wing]

i'll enjoy my sancta for now and probably build the base magistar in the near future, thanks for the info and help @green gyro @brittle sleet @near vortex !

[green gyro]

✅

[wary forge]

✅

[green gyro]

well you'll need to get another adapter

[old marsh]

Xata- Void - Void bubble - bullet attraction - Breach Surge. ABSOLUTE CINEMA

[green gyro]

idk what rotation it is, haven't checked circuit in like a year

[wary forge]

Did they already install it into sancti

[brittle sleet]

Honestly a valid thing to wait for with the Magistar though

[green gyro]

ye

[wary forge]

Gg

[tardy lily]

amazing, ty!

[wary forge]

It’s magistar right now

So now’s the time to get it again ig

[brittle sleet]

I might actually do that

[green gyro]

wts

[brittle sleet]

I still gotta set up a trade to get the Sancti though because I cba to farm up New Loka

[old marsh]

u give me 13 plat and u can take it off your plate

[green gyro]

I can't afford sorry

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scroll-crying-depression-doomscrolling-gif-4138822033792608878

[last wing]

wanna trade with me 😂

[wary forge]

If you have the normal magistar there’s no reason to use sancti unless u want to get it for mastery xp

[brittle sleet]

Nah I got my peeps, appreciate the offer though

[brittle sleet]

No I'm a freak who's tryna build it for the lifesteal gimmick

[green gyro]

inaros slam fr

[brittle sleet]

King shit

[wary forge]

inaros slam is aura

[brittle sleet]

Him actually valuing the HP off of the silver Nira's mod and not super minding wasting his exilus on the bronze one 👌

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266403603961479168/1507075919351779429/IMG_20260421_043522.png?ex=6a109553&is=6a0f43d3&hm=d4db4d6a4cc1336bbb6f8a2411113daf4a440b69f578d2a2352bb5e257b81b5a&

is this a good riven

[wary forge]

Well it has fire rate

So maybe 🤔

[old marsh]

plz rank it up before asking next time

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1331588740975689829/1505551654668341348/variants.png?ex=6a104fbe&is=6a0efe3e&hm=3d5be878a212760afd50564397d2775ad019667530320f76ffb0034b9b689110&

idk why this is there

[brittle sleet]

No reroll it 38 more times

[old marsh]

solid

[green gyro]

can roll -imp

so it's kinda shit

[old marsh]

or maybe..... 6 or 7 more times

[wary forge]

I didn’t know gorgon could get imp

That’s cool

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1420095005753868411/1439484330530308117/gorgon_unr_3a.png?ex=6a108f80&is=6a0f3e00&hm=eb24ce7930790cdae022c355f0aaf30b8ac10db78f5e7600ac581c388249c029&

[wary forge]

Gulp

Is that a rott riven

[green gyro]

idk how much this would even sell for, probably like 300k is doable

[green gyro]

no it's seraphs

[wary forge]

Nice

[green gyro]

rott couldn't afford this

😭

[wary forge]

True…

Quad A is just insane

Not to mention it’s unrolled and everything

[green gyro]

it's probably the most expensive non-vintage riven

idk what else is comparable

[wary forge]

Ye

[green gyro]

maybe some weird melee but no one buys those anymore

[prime scarab]

+MS, + Status Damage, + Fire Rate, - zoom.

I cant make out the name fully but it appears short and ending in a d so logic pulls Dread

[green gyro]

I think even like unrolled car-i rumblejack wouldn't pass 200k

there's barely anything

[wary forge]

Only thing I could think of would be some vintage one yeah that’s unrolled

[green gyro]

and none of it will ever sell anyway so it's just hypothetical

[wary forge]

Ye

[green gyro]

the vintage dread has gotten an offer for 1 mil

and the shit ass rubico got a 400k offer

[wary forge]

Damn

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1092851694934704178/1454863006541418548/variants.png?ex=69ec3902&is=69eae782&hm=45a01a38d1e33b3b9fa0d680f53913dca8de6413b1e946b9b046342337d8974b&

[prime scarab]

oh shit was it actually dread

[green gyro]

actually such a dumb riven

but -pfs was only rollable for like a couple days iirc

[wary forge]

Yeah

[green gyro]

so it's insanely expensive due to rarity

[wary forge]

Double F tho

[green gyro]

yep its rolled as well

[wary forge]

No collector would want that tbf

[green gyro]

nah they would

[wary forge]

Oh it’s rolled

[green gyro]

it's still vintage ccm

[wary forge]

Yeah Ggs then

[wary forge]

True

[green gyro]

it's like 100+ still

dread is like the perfect riven tho

ccm-imp, best neg, most expensive roll and vintage

[wary forge]

Yeah

[green gyro]

probably would only get sold if someone offers insane rmt overpay

which is really stupid

[wary forge]

Yeah

Was that a bug getting -impact on dread

Or just like used to get it and they took it out

[green gyro]

haven't been able to roll it for many years

[wary forge]

Ye ok

[green gyro]

yes, and it actually has impact which you want to remove

[wary forge]

So it’s like psf for shotguns

[green gyro]

nah because -pfs is harmful

here it's actually the best negative

[wary forge]

Ye

No I mean like rolling psf on shotguns

[green gyro]

it's like dual tox -pfs

[wary forge]

It would be harmless yeah but they took that roll out didn’t they

[green gyro]

best negative

I mean it's both good and bad cause you can't roll a useless positive stat

[wary forge]

Ye

[green gyro]

but you also can't hit -imp

[edgy lance]

how do i solve my burston XD

[wary forge]

Is that dread unrolled

[green gyro]

no

[edgy lance]

i want to add that riven but i think i also need bane, and idk what to throw out

[green gyro]

you ideally dont use it but it would go over elec mod

[wary forge]

That would be so crazy if it was

It’s still insane either way but yeah

[green gyro]

-grineer is like complete shit unless you're exclusively killing thrax with it

[edgy lance]

that was the plan XD

[green gyro]

then just run acuity

replace chamber with that and run magnetic

[strange zodiac]

Any idea if I should keep my magnetic valence, and if this build is ok with my Uriel build

It’s my kuva Sobek btw

[wary forge]

You want to mod heat on it if you are using Uriel

[last wing]

sorry but, wanna ask again, https://overframe.gg/build/668910/magistar/slamistar-x-5-combo-slam-spam-magistar-tox-corro-variants/

this build says that to use either the sacrificial combo or PPP and galvanized steel, but the build displayed PPP + Sacrificial steel, so which should i use?

[edgy lance]

wouldnt it be better if i put bane instead of serration?

[green gyro]

no

[rain pulsar]

would roar be better than nourish on a neutron star nova

[green gyro]

don't use the riven if ur fighting grineer

[valid current]

guys i need help on which on picking this, people at general are no help

[mighty flare]

the text literally explains when to use either

• double sac when cd riven/violet shards/tenacious bond
• ppp + galv steel when not

[hexed lodge]

The build is a reference, you add what you can afford to add, text explains the reasoning

[last wing]

i was just confused since the build showed PPP + Sacrificial steel, but thanks for pointing that out!

[wary forge]

What do you think

[prime scarab]

Either the first one or the second one, for sure

[rain pulsar]

calling people dumb aint gonna help them cro

[wary forge]

Where did I call them that

[valid current]

what does follow trough mean?

[wary forge]

How much damage a swing does when it’s hitting multiple enemies

[novel bear]

Follow through does nothing for slams