builds-discussion

[dire merlin]

triple faction riven would be crazy

[wind veldt]

They did mentiom murmur and orokin maybe being added to rivens as a roll in a dev short a while back

So maybe one day

[mighty flare]

thats fine, other stuff still same

[dire merlin]

*there is, but infested are in 5% of missions XD

[solar reef]

infested modifiers mean nothing

[dire merlin]

yes

[solar reef]

level cap defection

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/862431049450520607/1352082975168397332/ezgif-1947d970440684.gif

[elfin sluice]

cascade fissures are always grineer, even when the zariman has corpus invading atm?

[dire merlin]

they are so squishy anyways

[elfin sluice]

limbo and ivara MVPs yet again

[wind veldt]

Yes omni cascade is always grineer

But because of how omni fissures scales more enemies are "corrupted" meaning they have the orokin faction

[dire merlin]

limbo is SO op lore wise lmao, just found out this dude is so goated in maths that he created his own pocket dimension 🙏

[elfin sluice]

how long would it take to hit level cap in an arbitration?

[dire merlin]

enough for the dude to get oneshotted and lose everything

idk if its like "normal" zariman lvl cap tho

[wind veldt]

It really just depends on the gamemode i'd assume

Since arbitration has multiple gamemodes that can technically reach level cap

[elfin sluice]

there are ones that can't?(aside from non-endless)

[wind veldt]

Well realistically you won't be reaching level cap on defense since the objectives ai is shit and he'll run into an enemy and die from one hit

Or something along those lines

Hence why I said technically

[wary forge]

I think like 150 waves of interception gets them to level like 2500-3000

[novel bear]

Isn’t meta arbi mostly defense?

Defense and interception

[tawdry trail]

yeah there's a strat to exploit the defense target's AI to lock it in place I think

[static sphinx]

Is merulina guardian way better than loyal merulina?

[latent adder]

The opposite

[static sphinx]

That's perfect since I hate k driving

I almost gave up on Yareli.

[brittle sleet]

Loyal is less limiting on how you play her, and it lets your sea snare damage vulnerability stack with Merulina's. Only issue is (last I checked) there was issues with how you build to optimize the Merulina snares, as it does it more with higher efficiency. The problem comes when you're not host, for some reason at higher efficiency points Merulina can just cease to actually spread snares.

[static sphinx]

Also, her passive seems like it would have some overpowered synergies with certain secondaries. Are there any?

[brittle sleet]

Both are insane buffs for playing her even when buggy though and you should never play her without one or the other

[static sphinx]

I see, thanks.

[brittle sleet]

Secondaries are so insanely strong nowadays that her passive buff doesn't mean much, but basically any secondary not running Enervate will appreciate her buff and just be that lil bit much stronger than it already is

[static sphinx]

Wouldn't 200% crit chance make certain weapons deal at least orange crits consistently (without sacrificing arcane slot)?

I thought that there's a specific secondary that's very good, and has a very high base crit chance.

[prime scarab]

I finally picked up lavos and I can't wait to subsume his vial rush onto nyx, its so fun

[brittle sleet]

Yeah, usually hitting your yellow crits consistently is a bigger deal though and you're kinda just making weapons that already build crit better at it. Can maybe save a mod slot on some that you really wanna optimize but again they're so good they don't usually need it

Plinx and Toxocyst are common favorites for her

Probably some others I'm forgetting... maybe Atomos since I think it has an energy max based evolution which she can meet the requirements for easily?

[static sphinx]

My best secondaries are 60% kuva nukor and 60% tenet plinx. So I guess it's perfect for me.

[brittle sleet]

Nukor is an Enervate gun and doesn't care what Yareli's passive offers but Plinx is solid aye

[prime scarab]

Dual Coda is very good with her

Sporelacer too

[brittle sleet]

True I think Dual Coda needs her to hit >100% crit easily

[latent adder]

Synoid gammacor incarnoff is nice too

[static sphinx]

Alright, any good tenet plinx builds? I haven't actually built it yet, since I got it recently.

[brittle sleet]

Glad someone else said it because man I love the Synoid Gammacor but never feels like anyone else does

[prime scarab]

She also obviously does well with a crit laetum

[chrome badge]

I hate it

[brittle sleet]

Die

I will eat you

[prime scarab]

That seems a bit extreme

[chrome badge]

rolls dice
No.

[plain obsidian]

What’s your go-to for specters weapons?
I read that those are good, but haven’t had the chance to try them out:

• nataruk
• shedu
• proboscis cerno
• basmu
• kuva nukor

Is there another obvious one missing on my list?

[granite ginkgo]

spectre weapon only use primary slot, and melee when enemy near

and the weapon is unmodded, unless you talking about on call crewmate

[plain obsidian]

Don’t they use secondary if ammo runs out? and yeah, unmodded with power depending on specter rank

[granite ginkgo]

people usualy equip w dante spectre, since he can provide 1.5k OG when spawn

[plain obsidian]

Yea dante or wisp

[near vortex]

Nidus and Dante are the two most useful spectres

[chrome badge]

I love my on call

[near vortex]

Dante for overguard and Nidus for Link

[granite ginkgo]

equip kuva bramma, that the only weapon is decent for primary to use for my case

[chrome badge]

Infinite epitaph primer

[fierce lark]

half your on-call kzarr kingsman kill everything instead

[plain obsidian]

I gotta look into the oncall, i’ve recently worked on railjack but haven’t explored that yet

[granite ginkgo]

get perk that allow you to hire elite crew, their have passive like heal allies when kill or 150% crit for primary or secondary

[elfin sluice]

the moment you get one, get a kuva zarr and put it in their hands.

[plain obsidian]

Damn, i still have the basic fks from day 1 and a kuva lich as defender 🙈

[elfin sluice]

or a kuva ogris.

sit back and watch the world burn after that.

[plain obsidian]

Will do!

[elfin sluice]

crewmates have infinite ammo, and those hard-hitting guns have ammo as their main limiter

[timber sparrow]

did i cook or did i burn the kitchen

[fierce lark]

ive heard that the simulor augment actually makes it do less damage lol

can't confirm

[timber sparrow]

ive heard that too but i dont actualy know

[granite ginkgo]

what wpn?

[timber sparrow]

synoid simulor 😛 😛 augment tells it

[granite ginkgo]

damn why the orb arent bounce lmao

[granite ginkgo]

no faction mod?

[timber sparrow]

never

[granite ginkgo]

you can swap elec w more raw dmg or faction mod, either which is fine

unless you wanna pair using xata whisper, then blast build is op

[timber sparrow]

more raw dmg?

really?

[novel bear]

Faction damage is a lot worse if you’re not doing dots

If you were going to take something off for faction, it would be rifle elementalist

[gleaming vapor]

tbf about 90% of weapons use dot

most weapons build hybrid

there’s like 3 exceptions

[novel bear]

Yes, which is why the suggestion to take off elec is bad

[barren birch]

got my helminth charger, now the question is how to build her o-o

[viscid bane]

Which one should I pick for hound stats?

[novel bear]

Doesn’t really matter

[timber sparrow]

okay

i guess bro

[viscid bane]

Are there any EHP calculators?

[zinc thunder]

I’d like some opinions on this.
Low efficiency because I cast 3 1 time and that’s the only time I use any abilities
I might use his 2 every now and then

[viscid bane]

I couldn't decide so I had to break out the math

[drowsy herald]

What arcanes are best for larkspur? I wanna run it with Saryn and a protea specter for fun

[near vortex]

Crux enervate

[drowsy herald]

Crux enervate is good for all archguns i see

[near vortex]

Technically BiS is Overcharge enervate but Overcharge has requirements

[violet silo]

I don’t think enervate is best for larkspur

[spiral chasm]

bro excel exists

[frigid vale]

I have a question

[violet silo]

don’t think it matters beyond 1200 shields

for reinforced bond

[violet silo]

I may have an answer

[frigid vale]

I just started playing a couple weeks ago, and I like using Excalibur. Are there any mods in general or specific mods I should look for?

[violet silo]

yep

blood rush, weeping wounds from deimos bounties

galvanized mods, depending on where you are rn

[viscid bane]

You see I am too lazy too open it and quickly relearn how to use, while pen and paper are right beside me along with my calculator

[violet silo]

condition overload

berserker fury

[silk sphinx]

I find it a bit sad and funny that Berserker Fury outpaces Primed Fury.

[frigid vale]

What's the difference between Berserker and Primal Fury?

[violet silo]

primal?

[frigid vale]

Yeah

Oh Primed. My bad I read it wrong

[silk sphinx]

Primed Fury at max rank gives a 55% melee atk speed boost. Berserker Fury gives a 35% melee atk speed boost on kill, stacking to 2 kills.

[violet silo]

primal fury is the stance for wukong’s staff. here’s primed and berserker fury

[viscid bane]

bereserker fury provides more attack speed, but only after kills. Primed fury providesless but it's upfront

[violet silo]

and berserker is a lot less capacity

also easier to get

[silk sphinx]

Which makes it the most used out of base, primed and itself.

[frigid vale]

All I have is regular Fury

[violet silo]

you should get berserker then

[silk sphinx]

Berserker drops from Deimos bounties right?

[frigid vale]

Deimos?

[violet silo]

no

rare drop from corrupted ancient

[silk sphinx]

Ah

[violet silo]

i’m kinda surprised I have like 3 of them

it’s like 1/3000

[silk sphinx]

So missions on Deimos then, do you recommend exterminate or an endurance mission or going to Cambion Drift?

[frigid vale]

0.0

[violet silo]

cheap on wfm tho

[violet silo]

deimos doesnt have corrupted ancients

[silk sphinx]

It’s not as bad as it could be. The bite mod has a 1/15000 chance from Feral Kubrows and Drahk

[violet silo]

like I said, I have multiple copies that I don’t use

[silk sphinx]

I coulda sworn it did

[frigid vale]

So I have another question.

When I got to upgrade Excalibur, next to Polarization is Upgrade which doubles capacity. Does it reset every time I add a Polarization?

[novel bear]

No

[silk sphinx]

Dont put a reactor in him, and dont Forma on him either. You’ll found out why later.

[frigid vale]

Should save those for a Prime Warframe then?

[silk sphinx]

Yeah

[undone dust]

corrupted ancients are the orokin/void ones

they can be on deimos if it's a fissure and a few spawn but they're pretty much guaranteed in the void

[fierce lark]

i would like to find out why now

[deep grotto]

Why would they, they’re the corrupted 😭

[undone dust]

check your pocket

[deep grotto]

I mean they’d spawn when you open a vault but that’s not very reliable

[frigid vale]

Well I did just get to Jupitar

[silk sphinx]

Rhino and Nyx Prime are in resurgence right now if you wanna get them. I recommend Rhino for survivability and Nyx for damage/crowd control.

[fierce lark]

no you pissed in it weirdo

[undone dust]

no i put a piece of raw chicken thigh in there

[fierce lark]

i know they’re gonna say it’s because you get umbra later

then i’m gonna drop the truth nuke

[frigid vale]

Regular Rhino or Rhino Prime?

[silk sphinx]

Idk, I missed the corrupted part of their name I guess :/

[wild field]

anyone have any best build?

[undone dust]

best build: use something else or whatever

[wild field]

(sorry for my english)

[silk sphinx]

Rhino Prime is the one you’ll keep around. Get regular rhino later.

[novel bear]

Honestly base excal doesn’t have that much going for him over umbra
I would rather give up my exilus than a shard slot for energy

[frigid vale]

My starter and Rhino are my only wraframes. I've got blueprints from primes but I'm missing a lot of pieces

[fierce lark]

attack speed passive too

[novel bear]

10%
Just use strike

[fierce lark]

10% additive attack speed vs 75% additive cd

honestly unsure which is better pure numbers wise

[silk sphinx]

Look at all of their kits and focus on which you want the most. Voruna Prime is the one that just released so would be the easiest to farm. But it’s 100% up to you.

[frigid vale]

I'll make a decision once I unlock Pluto. I should have access to the rest of the resources I need to craft almost anything

I appreciate the help

[prime scarab]

Ash, Baruuk, Chroma, Dagath, Equinox, Harrow, Hydroid, Khora, Koumei, Limbo, Loki, Mag, Nezha, Nidus, Protea, Revenant, Saryn, Styanax, Trinity, Xaku

Are any of these generally considered ability spam frames? I'm coming off like 4 weapons platform builds looking to go back to pure ability spam.

Its time for me to pick my next prime to do since I just finished Lavos (Didn't care for him. Great kit. Not my style.)

I think Khora actually now that I'm looking at the list.

[silk sphinx]

Uriel

His whole kit is about spamming 1, 3, 2, and 4.

Plus Remedium is a good survival ability.

[undone dust]

protea is also peak spam

her passive promotes spam

[latent adder]

Does khora spamming 1 count.

[silk sphinx]

True. I don’t like her 3 though so Im gonna subsume over it.

[latent adder]

Ash, Mag, protea, trinity, hydroid can be pure casters. Maybe even nezha

[granite ginkgo]

ash, harrow, koumei, mag, nidus,khora, protea, saryn , styanax 4th, - the rest i unsure count as spam or not

[gleaming vapor]

isn’t her 3 the loot ability?

[prime scarab]

Uriel wasn't on the list but I appreciate the gusto lol

[silk sphinx]

Energy, health, and ammo

[prime scarab]

Okay, cool, I'll put them on the top!

[gleaming vapor]

uriel lowk just aura and hype moments frame

he just looks cool

[silk sphinx]

I’d probably put Remedium over it to help with survivability.

[gleaming vapor]

smh

[prime scarab]

Ash, huh? I was actually not interested in him based only on design aesthetics but if he's ability spam that might change my mind

[granite ginkgo]

equinox spam would like be 2nd skill if no augment

[gleaming vapor]

equinox literally just magistars

[latent adder]

You mark enemies with bladestorm and clones jump around killing stuff

[viscid bane]

I am so confused on is this a thing

Is their every attack considered a heavy attack by the game?

[silk sphinx]

No

I don’t think so

[spice willow]

which is better with cyte or jade or all-round : efv jupiter or ax-52?

[hot lynx]

Is larkspur good

[viscid bane]

base one no, prime yes

Anybody got Akaten buld?

[violet silo]

uh

hm

ax, probably

[steel mortar]

is this build fine for boar?

[spice willow]

could you say why

[violet silo]

cuz AX > efv-5, esp with the augment

[violet silo]

use primary crux or deadhead, and I wouldnt recommend corrosive + heat, try viral instead

oh wait... is ur riven elec

uhhh try switching incendiary for cold then

[steel mortar]

Yeah it’s electric

[steel mortar]

I cant remove corrosive bcos of the riven 😭

[violet silo]

like I said

switch heat for cold

[steel mortar]

ok

[mortal star]

Hello! Is this an okay build to go into Arbitrations for? I'm still relatively getting a grasp of the game and I want to farm Vitus Essence to get Galvanized Mods to prep for Steel Path. I don't want to go into Arbitrations and holding the Squad back, so I was wondering if this was good enough to run with them? qwq

[old marsh]

This has groll stats. Don’t change it. Go corrosive heat. Use nourish or external viral priming

[steel mortar]

should I still switch to deadhead?

[violet silo]

yeah

[violet silo]

well, im recommending corro blast here

[old marsh]

U don’t need Umbral mods. Focus on STR

[violet silo]

generally a great setup for chain beams

[steel mortar]

I usually use vulpahyla

[old marsh]

4 elements will make it starved for slots

[mortal star]

Gotchu, I don't have much other STR mods atm but I'll keep it in mind.

[leaden karma]

what should i add to this

that would matter

[charred gale]

they never show the gun name💔

[violet silo]

they're alr modding heat

this is 3 slots, one of which is a riven

im telling them to switch heat for cold and use the innate heat on the incarnon to make blast

[violet silo]

im guessing balefire

we shall see

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[leaden karma]

oh yea

is balefire

[violet silo]

take off jolt, run all primed mods

primed elemental mods I mean

maximum dmg

[steel mortar]

ngl I mainly use vendetta for its reload speed

[violet silo]

convulsion, heated charge
I think there's another? maybe not? idk

[old marsh]

That should work.

[leaden karma]

i dont have any for secondary's

[violet silo]

I dont do it cuz I overuse blast and dont have an elec riven

[violet silo]

then just normal 90% mods ig

[dry talon]

Yall have any idea how to survive Janus Vor 3rd and 4th Phase? I have this alongside aegis and nullifier.

[violet silo]

https://www.underframe.site/featured_builds/balefire

@leaden karma for u

[old marsh]

Use Hildryn

She is the easiest for that boss

Unless it’s for accolade

[dry talon]

Got a build?
Also, does Loki work for this boss?

[dry talon]

For insign

[old marsh]

Gets nullified. I will have to remake the build coz it’s been ages since I did that fight. I will recommend watching any guide on it for Hildryn. I think Brozime has one. See if that works for u

[dry talon]

Thank you

[old marsh]

This is mostly because Hildryn doesn’t even use her abilities. She solely relies on that insanely high shield pool to survive.

[steel mortar]

@violet silo aye bro blast kinda go crazy, thanks

[violet silo]

nice

[flint swallow]

Could I get some help modding my valkyr prime

[spice willow]

which augment

[violet silo]

biotic rounds

[valid axle]

what's a good subsume for protia

[silk sphinx]

imo, anything that makes her less squishy

[inner raptor]

Shes not squish she has a ton of iframes and has basically infinte shield when standing on shield drones

[mighty flare]

theres suggestions in here: #1474844387543482479 message

[silk sphinx]

With how I play and have her built she can be very squishy at the start of missions. And especially when I forget my shield drones.

[valid axle]

i use heat inherent with fortifier so no a squishy

[silk sphinx]

Maybe something to help proc Hotshot if you have that on her

Idk

[frozen grail]

would a riven be worth it to invest in on a gun like the coda hema considering it has a 0.95 dispo?

[next sky]

Not worth. If ur playing protea then you might as well commit to using her abilities for your damage. No point weapons platforming on a frame who doesn't provide any other buffs

[leaden badger]

I love dual tox incarnon that literally delete enemy. But it's normal mode is a pain in arse... that weird fire rate shooting mode ... how to improve that?

[next sky]

Use sicarus incarnon

Base form is significantly stronger but incarnon form is a bit weaker. Still deletes people very fast

[leaden badger]

So u mean. For dual tox base form, it is what it is huh?

[next sky]

That's usually the case ye

[leaden badger]

We gonna endure the pain before it reach incarnon form... really slow and painful to use that thing in base form

[zinc drift]

helloo i need a baruuk build

[next sky]

Ye for the first month the incarnon forms were super cool and all that and using them was neat, but over time the novelty of the power in the incarnon form wears off and you realize if the base form sucks ass, you just have a good gun with a super shit reload mechanic.
At this point the only incarnons I use are ones that are strong in base form

[next sky]

You can check out the community discord for their build resources tab if you want

[leaden badger]

Buttt, butttt, dual tox is too dang op to give up

[novel bear]

Dual tox builds charges really fast

[leaden badger]

I think I will have to endure this dual toxic relationship with dual tox

[viscid hazel]

Hey, me again. Stupid question incoming. This build on overframe.gg says to put on Amalgam Serration but I don't have it, will regular Serration work just fine?

[chrome badge]

Yes

[viscid hazel]

tyyy

[leaden badger]

Ya, just need hit weak point to charge... but... ta... ta... ta.. it's not allow me to spam clickkkkkk

[chrome badge]

Amalgam serration just gives sprint speed for less dmg

[leaden badger]

It's like there's few sec cd before u can click ... don't feel good

[viscid hazel]

Ohh. I'm not bothered about sprint speed hahaha

[novel bear]

Are you using fire rate mods?

[chrome badge]

do you not have the hold semi auto fire setting enabled

[leaden badger]

Ok... thks for info let me check that

[chrome badge]

goober

[cobalt kite]

can someone help me improve my epitaph build? I'm using it for viral priming.

[chrome badge]

whats with the amalgam

[cobalt kite]

multishot

[chrome badge]

no normal

youre getting less multishot that way

[cobalt kite]

oh ok

bruh I don't have the normal one

[chrome badge]

Fulmination would be nice but i doubt you have that

[past condor]

But the speed wen u bollarolla tho..

[latent adder]

Amalgam is good

More dodge speed

[cobalt kite]

IM POOR

[chrome badge]

thats fine

dodge speed is negligible

[latent adder]

Multishot is neglible, dodge speed is noticeable

[chrome badge]

...

[cobalt kite]

fight fight fight

[past condor]

Rollin is faster than bulletin btw..
For more power u need the galvanized that i assume u don't have..

[chrome badge]

ragebait surely

[cobalt kite]

I have some galvanized but none for pistol

[latent adder]

Its a primer what's 10% multishot doing

[cobalt kite]

Kinda neglected my secondary ngl

[past condor]

Negligible

[chrome badge]

its doing its best

[latent adder]

In fact many people basically run amalgam on dps too

Cuz the dodge is so fast

[quiet laurel]

Are we fr debating amalgam vs normal on a primer

[past condor]

I run the amalgam on all my secondaries.. the bollarolla us too fast..

[chrome badge]

anyhow ninjase you can take over for me ig

also love your descriptions in your overframe builds

[latent adder]

I literally run amalgam diffusion on furis lol

[quiet laurel]

Based

Speed > all

[chrome badge]

i shall recede

[past condor]

HAHA YES

[cobalt kite]

galvanized shot?

[quiet laurel]

Doesnt do anything for a primer, normal status chance mod better

[past condor]

It's good for fly timed shooters but do for the direct hits not AoE..

[carmine ravine]

1. Is the weapon good? (1.43 dispo)
2. Is the riven good?
3. Should i bother re-rolling?

[charred gale]

good riven

worth rerolling imo

[cobalt kite]

kk

[carmine ravine]

Do rivens of this sell?

[charred gale]

yes

nami solo is popular

[carmine ravine]

ty

[charred gale]

np

[past condor]

1. Very
2. Decent, but more range would be much better..
3. For the same reason mentioned above cas ~10 meter with 100% follow through with guaranteed slash procs on heavy attacks is obunga..

[wary forge]

Like a top 3 melee minimum top 5

[quiet laurel]

How much you wanna sell it to me for

[quiet laurel]

I mean the slash isnt really what makes it good, its the fact you get multiple influence procs retaining 100% of their damage in a crazy radius

You'd ideally want -100% slash on nami solo

Which is why a god roll is such a pain in the ass to get

[carmine ravine]

Not mine, I’m acting as a repeater for my friend

[wary forge]

WTB nami solo g roll 7500

[quiet laurel]

How much is your friend willing to sell it for

[quiet laurel]

Low balling fr fr

[wary forge]

Idk how much they go for tbh

[quiet laurel]

Cant wait till I have 100m kuva in 2 years and then roll nami solo after influence has been nerfed

[wary forge]

I’ve seen some go for that much

[carmine ravine]

I don’t think he is.

[quiet laurel]

Groll with sub 500 rolls is like 10-20k depending on grades

[wary forge]

Don’t like g rolls without -slash go for like 6k

[quiet laurel]

Groll without -slash 🥀

[carmine ravine]

Imma flex on his behalf, he got it for 20pt.

[wary forge]

I mean realisty range elec attack speed gonna be the same with or without slash

[quiet laurel]

You get like 50-60% elec weighting over slash

Which is pretty bad

With shocking touch you exactly have as much elec weighting as slash

[wary forge]

It still kills everything in .1 seconds bro

[quiet laurel]

Nuh uh

Mah dps 🎋

[wary forge]

Well mine does atleast maybe it’s just chroma carrying it idk

My riv is just range elec

[quiet laurel]

But yeah been trying to get a -slash groll

[wary forge]

I was thinking about getting one lowkey

[quiet laurel]

But closest was r, as, sc, -slash

[wary forge]

I do use nami a lot and also like just to collect it

Rolling for that sounds impossible tho

[quiet laurel]

Was 1 stat away 😔

Once I have 100m kuva I'll surely get it

[wary forge]

[grave vector]

Should i keep or switch?

[fierce lark]

probably take the new one

and replace pistol pest with it

[inner raptor]

Ayy suggest me a good multi co primary and secondary to build

[fierce lark]

stahlta, coda hema, coda bassocyst/tenet arca plasmor

secondary honestly idk

[inner raptor]

Iyho: hema or bassocyst?

[fierce lark]

the basso is probably better overall, particularly if you have external priming

i prefer the hema, with the caveat being you need the augment and at least 720 hp on your frame

i just prefer rifles personally

[valid latch]

For level cap, which would result in overall increased damage on the Kompressa

Hot shot + Secondary Enervate
Hot shot + Cascadia Flare

[fierce lark]

i also wouldn’t argue against someone if they said the hema was better, it seems to have better dmg output, basso has infinite pt on a wide projectile with extremely high damage + multico so it’ll delete everything in front of it

[green gyro]

hot shot is completely useless if ur running enervate

[fierce lark]

oh coda bubonico

[viscid hazel]

This build I copied from Ninjase which I wanted to use for Arbis, is this build still relevant or is there a way to improve it possibly? I mean no disrespect it just says it hadn't been updated in a few years is all

[green gyro]

just run fortifier

[inner raptor]

Huh felarx and fulmin are also multi co this is news to me

[fierce lark]

is felarx multico on incarnoff?

[green gyro]

this isnt an arbi build

[inner raptor]

Yeah

I was hoping phenmor was on the list but nah

[viscid hazel]

Oh, I see! What is?

[fierce lark]

personally i actually just hate the felarx but if it’s multi that’s cool

i might like it more if i stopped trying to force incarnoff builds

[viscid hazel]

That's basically this, right?

[green gyro]

wouldnt recommend overframe for this

in general i wouldnt recommend

[viscid hazel]

How come? I thought overframe was kinda the place to be for builds

[green gyro]

saryn doesnt benefit from progenitor bonus so primed cryo rounds is just dps loss

[green gyro]

only if they are general use builds from ninjase

everything else is usually garbage

https://wfpedia.com/

this is good

[viscid hazel]

That build you sent there, what's the valence bonus? 60% toxin I assume?

[green gyro]

cold

ogris requires saryn‘s toxic lash to kill, which gets a massive damage boost from modded toxin. progenitor bonus doesnt do anything to lash so you want a toxin mod and then cold valence to turn it into viral

[viscid hazel]

so you've always got to run saryn

[green gyro]

are you playing solo?

solo/pub arbis are really bad

[viscid hazel]

not really no, i play with others and if they leave i usually stay

[green gyro]

like not even 1/10th of a proper squad

[viscid hazel]

sorry, not too sure what you mean by this

[viscid hazel]

so if i'm doing arbitrations this is what you'd recommend

[green gyro]

yeah, its just not really ever gonna be good if youre running arbis solo/in a public lobby

compared to an organised squad

[viscid hazel]

ohhhhh right now I understand

[green gyro]

mostly due to ammo but also you dont have wisp

[viscid hazel]

you didn't mention organised squad lol

[green gyro]

so youre missing out on the high fire rate and also -500% damage from roar

[viscid hazel]

...roar?

brother this is so much to think about

what happened to the days when you could slap some mods on and call it a day

[green gyro]

i mean that kinda works but you get like no vitus

[pearl flint]

Heyo people I'm looking for a general nova build for Sp .

[viscid hazel]

so i gotta get primed magazine warp, primed firestorm and level those to max, get a riven, get primary overcharge, probably throw more forma into it, then i gotta farm for rhino and subsume him for roar on saryn then i gotta find an organised squad

im going to have a mental breakdown

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-parks-and-recreation-leslie-knope-nervous-breakdown-on-the-edge-gif-7965723650045674149

but that said, i appreciate your help

[green gyro]

you have stuff to do at least

better than not having anything to farm 👍

[quiet laurel]

You go energized munitions on saryn, in an organized squad either wisp runs roar or you bring a rhino

But yeah its a lot of build and mechanics management

[viscid hazel]

All because I want kuva

[quiet laurel]

In meta arbis the builds are only one part of it tbh, most of it comes down to the run procedure

[quiet laurel]

You can join the arbi discord for the meta arbi guide

Saryn ogris is kinda outdated anyway

[novel bear]

It’s all sobek now

[wet scroll]

does any one have a fully optimized harmony build

jade's sword

[old charm]

For what, heavy attack spamming?

[quiet laurel]

And boar

And I also heard about khom but havent seen any of the hosts I played with use it

[novel bear]

Damn, ergo glast is awful this rotation
Highest is 26.8%

[undone sluice]

Made a Oberon build, main weapon to use is Ogris but Bramma works too

[undone sluice]

Shards so far

[wet scroll]

I mean harmony is meant for that no ?

[gleaming vapor]

why is umbral fiber here

[undone sluice]

armor, for bulwark

[gleaming vapor]

does oberon have extra armor in his kit?

because I dont think you hit armor breakpoint

[fierce lark]

but boar is trash lmao just use torid

[undone sluice]

his 3 gives bonus armor

[gleaming vapor]

fair

do you know what your total armor is after that?

[undone sluice]

like 1.1-1.3k i think

im testing to see if i even need the umbra fiber rq

[gleaming vapor]

oh yeah thats pretty legit

im ngl i thought you were gonna say "umbral fiber is on here for more strength from intensify"

i wouldve called you stupid ngl

[vapid gorge]

Does have any one here a good Nezha Prime build?

[undone sluice]

ok, the 1.5k is for allies and i get like 700 extra. Bulwark will work if there is high enemy density

[gleaming vapor]

thats quite good actually

nice build

[old charm]

Base 450 on him makes triple Umbral give him 1260. That’s pretty snazzy. Equilibrium seems kinda overkill with universal fallout and he could probably get by with just a violet shard for that last spot

[slate siren]

is HotDog (heat inherit Sunika) still meta?

dont mind my low level build verison

[undone sluice]

yeah, i was testing, using flow instead and might just do 1 purple then either orange or red for strength

[old charm]

Could get rid of augmented for battery and then use strength shards instead

Won’t be conditional and overall provide a lot more value to archon shards

[slate siren]

sooo... no im guessing? srry to interrupt yalls convo

what companion should i be using?

[old charm]

For what purpose?

[slate siren]

general use

[undone sluice]

would orange or red be better on Oberon, cause idk where i heard it but i couldve sworn i heard someone say orange is multiplicative with him

[slate siren]

it should be

did a quick search

the caviat is they Must be inflicted already to multiplicatively scale but for obi no prob

[old charm]

The radiation shards? Those are bugged on some stuff, idk if they work on Oberon properly. You’d probably want to use at least 1 if they do work on him

The radiation/electric damage shards don’t work on Exalted Blade, so I don’t use them

[crimson cedar]

Nautilus & Verglas : priming & nuking + extra CC

[old charm]

I still use Smeeta since Charm is still one of the best general purpose Beast companion precepts

[slate siren]

the prob with that is i nuke faster with most of my frames and the grouping Nauti provides f-s with my aim

[crimson cedar]

Use Diriga instead Nautilus so

[slate siren]

bc he doesnt just group he also drags them closer and while moving they get grouped behind me

[old charm]

Panzer with quills, synth deconstruct, and electric on claws is very general purpose useful

It’ll trigger Archon Stretch for your frame

And drop tons of health orbs

[vital glade]

HOTDOG?

[slate siren]

ill work on that then still havent made a real panzer yet.... (got the basic antigens and stuff)

[slate siren]

heat inherit

[vital glade]

hotdog

[old charm]

A real panzer? I just have whatever antigens worked to create mine, I’m unaware of anything different

[crimson cedar]

go for Helios and passive scan every ennemies for later use in simulacrum so 🤡

[slate siren]

each one gives diff buffs so to speak

like tox resist and diff polarities and whatnot

[old charm]

Yeah that’s not important lol

[crimson cedar]

you can optimise to the max with all antigens to provide him a full 50% resistance to all incoming damages type ( but i don't care tbh )

[slate siren]

well for a forma poor fellow polarity maxxing is important

[charred gale]

i mean its up to 75% dr which is a good bit

[old charm]

Mine’s functionally immortal since im melee only and use pack leader

[charred gale]

but yeah its not rly too important

[slate siren]

no offense but melee only is yucky imo

[old charm]

75% DR still won’t save it without something extra, and its a kavat with the fancy cheat death mod

[old charm]

Well that’s how I’ve played the game since the beta

[charred gale]

i did say its not too important

[slate siren]

like i said i didnt mean any offense i just play differently than you is all

[old charm]

Let’s be honest, I’m the weird one here

[pure kiln]

rhino build is done now, anything that could be improved? i will admit the streamline is just there for my comfort lmao 45% efficiency annoys me greatly

[crimson cedar]

replace molt efficiency to Expertise arcane

repalce streamling by primed redirection

[old charm]

Is that parasitic armor?

[pure kiln]

yep

[crimson cedar]

Is this yep, that's why i recommend expertise+redirection

[pure kiln]

woah almost 2.7k shields now

[crimson cedar]

converted to 15k armor

[pure kiln]

holy

[old charm]

Didn’t think that parasitic armor and molt efficiency worked

[slate siren]

hot dog heat inherit you can see the procs in the last part of dmg

[crimson cedar]

(white background is a warcrime)

[slate siren]

@vital glade bc you still seemed confused

[old marsh]

this is good enough. u can even use Truculence for short missions but not needed. and u can try Reinforced Stomp to replenish your iron skin while also getting CC

[pure kiln]

holy

[wet scroll]

you can change the polarity of streamline with the exilus slot

[old marsh]

think 100 million OG

[pure kiln]

tbf the layout in the red veil simulacrum kind of sucks for this

let me try the ballroom

[vital glade]

not confused, I just think naming a dog "hotdog" is adorable

[crimson cedar]

oh, can't post some streamable links to show my Rhino...
streamable(DOT)com/tendh4

[wet scroll]

what is the ability u used instead of your 4th ?

[crimson cedar]

Parasistic armor, to convert shields to armor

[old marsh]

i personally hate his 1 but many like to play around it

[pure kiln]

that's more like it

[wet scroll]

whose ability is that ?

[old marsh]

Helminth

[fierce lark]

the helminth

[crimson cedar]

helminth himself

[pure kiln]

it's from the helminth, if you're early on don't worry about it

[wet scroll]

woah

[carmine ravine]

He’s asking, how much would you buy it for?

[wet scroll]

shields to armor ?

with armor you mean overshields ?

[slate siren]

whats the opinion on this? (whenever yall find time)

[fierce lark]

no, armor

[undone dust]

whats that

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-think-ponder-wondering-hmmm-gif-3379473559512476121

[fierce lark]

pretty much what i expect to see when someone shoots xata's blast sporo into a tight crowd

and then sky mentions my "tight crowd"

[undone dust]

call me a crowd how i xatas blast

[slate siren]

made the config without help thought i was onto sum :c

[fierce lark]

eh at some point you kinda just figure out what mods do and you don't need help anymore xd

like im just assuming this is gapt ms augment blast elementalist, maybe with cannonade & mag mod + toxin progen

personally i'd run crux instead of merciless

[crimson cedar]

no, armor

[fierce lark]

low cap status cannon absolutely loves crux

[wet scroll]

and what is that ?

[fierce lark]

especially one that can equip cannonade

[slate siren]

mag progen

[pure kiln]

armor is just an attribute that reduces damage taken to health

[fierce lark]

may i ask why you have tox included on purpose

[wet scroll]

oh

[slate siren]

moar dmg

[crimson cedar]

Have you played the game once Bibo ?

[fierce lark]

blast elec makes more sense than blast tox, elec does its damage faster and can also aoe and headshot

[old marsh]

290 for prime

[wet scroll]

yh but i've never heard of armor

[crimson cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/230755989794586625/1506184465737584772/1446834388868.gif

[wet scroll]

the only dmg reduction i know is nekros'

[slate siren]

thnks ill try it

[fierce lark]

if anything try it with crux

[wet scroll]

and nova's

[fierce lark]

and then try to get fire rate on the riven

and run adarza kavat

and/or harrow

and/or disco avenger

[slate siren]

okies sounds good

[fierce lark]

flat crit coda sporo with crux and a lot of fire rate goes hard af

[crimson cedar]

Bibo, what is this ? (others : say nothing)

[wet scroll]

are you mad ?

[wet scroll]

never used it

and ithought in increases shields

[crimson cedar]

maybe you skip some steps at the begining

[floral finch]

hows this?

[wet scroll]

like WHAT STEPS

i am going in steel path all good with no need for "armor"

but i would love to learn about it

[crimson cedar]

basic modding, you get Rhino & Valkry early in the game, Armor is an interesting attribute for them, maybe you skip this step

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-successful-another-another-successful-ragebait-black-gif-18435710051418180311

[crimson cedar]

ofc armor is not the best way to tank high levels

[fierce lark]

i have a duration invig on dagath, im pretty not-mad

[old marsh]

finisher dmg

[wet scroll]

i didn't mod rhino correctly cuz i didn't fully build em i was just using umbra untill i got prime gauss

[fierce lark]

prime gas

[wet scroll]

prime gauss*

[wet scroll]

maybe you got primed gases installed

[crimson cedar]

So, with Umbra you get all umbra mods, even with the armor umbra mod, and you never understand what the mod does ?

[modern nova]

Does anyone have titania Prime build for sp missions?

[wet scroll]

yes

[crimson cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-stantwitter-jpsaririah-gif-1272414431220744246

[fierce lark]

taco bell

[old marsh]

rate my 0 investment Dagath build

[wet scroll]

lowkey i thought you were building a rocket or something

[modern nova]

🤧

[fierce lark]

uint on a potatoless build is criminal

[slate siren]

the build runs crazy and i do have fire rate on riv just not much

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[slate siren]

thankies Saryn

[wet scroll]

and yh the only melee build i know is melee influence that i still don't have the arcane maxed out

making me not know what is heavy spam builds

is it like tennokai or you just spam middle button

making it really hard to build harmoney for me

[fierce lark]

why are u poor

install orokin buttplug

actually i need to behave, i actually got warned for the stripper joke the other day

[wet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/toxs-sriu-toxs-toxss-dolamy-gif-16009245119894670470

[wet scroll]

says the guy with enough gas to launch a rocket

[wet scroll]

woah

[old marsh]

i spend on more important things

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smirk-dog-smirking-evil-gif-1174039551531775064

[half cloud]

does anyone have panzer vulpaphyla build please?

[old marsh]

Build suggestions for Nepheri plz. Guessing Gas Afflications?

[old marsh]

this is what i use

[half cloud]

thanks!

what abnout the claw?

[old marsh]

swap duplex for seismic for channeled ability frames

[old marsh]

just use whatever u have

[half cloud]

okay thanks!

[old marsh]

no need to buy the claw mods unless they r cheap like radon and magnetic claws

[half cloud]

i dont have either of those, can i use vicious bond instead?

[old marsh]

whichever mods u have, use them.

companion mods u will eventually get later. if not then u can buy them anyways

[half cloud]

okay thanks man

[old marsh]

Build suggestions for Nepheri plz. Guessing Gas Afflications?

[lethal aurora]

I made this do one punch whole room

[stable plover]

why does my riven for my Orthos show significantly different values when its equip to my weapon as oposed to when the riven is viewed in the mod menu? (on the left is when its on the weapon, the right for when its viewed in the mod menu)

[old marsh]

non prime vs prime

[stable plover]

omg, so the riven has seperate values when they are on primed weapons?

i alwase noticed a slight difference in values, just never this big. now i know, tyvm.

[old marsh]

prime vs non-prime

[stable plover]

so the primes and non primes have different riven dispo values. ok got it.

[old marsh]

and other variants too

[stable plover]

oh wow, so things like the braton vandal and normal braton would also have different riven values.

[old marsh]

yup. Mk1-Braton, Braton, Braton Vandal and Braton Prime

[stable plover]

i see, my eyes have been opened. ill assume when viewing a riven in the mods menu, it will alwase show the base weapons values.

[old marsh]

u can change the weapon type (if u own it) at the bottom right side

click on it and u can switch the weapon and it will change the dispo too

[stable plover]

nice, ty for the help.

my riven cycle menu, does not have that option there.

[modern nova]

https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1506559101545480193

[mighty flare]

do fireballs apply knockdown?

[rich glacier]

By default you see the non prime. Riven tag, mod riven menu section shows riven by normal version first. You need to go to your build to see the real values. That's why in warframe market I always insert the prime/ whatever version stats.

[old marsh]

no idea. it also has a weird stance.

[mighty flare]

they dont

[old marsh]

so gass afflictions then?

[mighty flare]

no

[old marsh]

suggest me a build. my tiny brain can only think gas afflictions

[mighty flare]

blast elec influence or infusion for heat influence
raw dmg with exposure/duplicates
heat vortex

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[mighty flare]

funnily enough that nepheri's unique combo removes knockdown so even less reason to do afflictions

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[mighty flare]

both spin needle & gnash payara have knockdown on their neutral combo

[old marsh]

meanwhile online builds be like:

[mighty flare]

this for nepheri?

[old marsh]

ye lol

i will go blast electric but deciding between weeping wounds and galvanized elementalist

[rich glacier]

Both always. You never choose either

[old marsh]

ye. i guess i will drop organ shatter. i was using it alongside Gal Steel.

[gleaming vapor]

tbf, vheat is quite strong

[rich glacier]

Removing blast will be better sadly

Do viral electric

[old marsh]

it is but when u have lots of stacks. on melee not really

[old marsh]

no can do. its Nepheri

[rich glacier]

I need to see that brb

[old marsh]

lol

[rich glacier]

I see

Yeah you're cooked. You need blast

[gleaming vapor]

i mean 1 stack of viral already doubles your damage iirc

so like id say its already proven its worth there

[rich glacier]

Wikinsays you can trigger influence with companion. I haven't tested it but if it really works you can do viral heat influence

[quiet laurel]

Sotru, torid best weapon

[quiet laurel]

Dunno, depends on the offer

[rich glacier]

Why do people love torid so much? It's just another beam weapon.

[fierce lark]

because torid

[rich glacier]

How thogh? I got the incarnon recently and I was hoping for some godlike weapon. My coda synapse is better

[fierce lark]

nah some guy was calling boar incarnon trash and his argument was "torid lol"

[rich glacier]

Coda synapse might even be the best beam weapon in the game as it has 20% hs multiplier passive

[charred gale]

not rly it has good aoe

[charred gale]

and it also has 0 chaining

[fierce lark]

coda synapse is just a beam, it's not a chain beam

[quiet laurel]

Mostly overhyped for the memes
Its a good weapon, especially for trash killing and the comfort it offers since you can charge it via body shots is nice but its not the best by far

[fierce lark]

to the guy's credit, torid does beat boar in ttk on enemies until you get to like...lvl 400 eximus

(without external strip)

[gleaming vapor]

torids the best primary for trash clear

its also kinda ugly

[fierce lark]

i wonder if that's actually true

[charred gale]

no the torid is just the best weapon in the game for everything

[rich glacier]

Torid is so mid

[gleaming vapor]

torid when the evil acolyte shows up

[charred gale]

torid melts it😍

[fierce lark]

calling the torid mid is disengenuous, it's pretty top tier at what it does

[gleaming vapor]

wow 🔥

[charred gale]

in a matter of seconds…

[rich glacier]

Nah it is overrated. It is good but it doesn't deserve the hype

[gleaming vapor]

plural 🥀

[rich glacier]

Mid for balance

[fierce lark]

i was lead to believe that it's the best primary in the game for a long time and it took a pretty long while before i eventually learned otherwise

[gleaming vapor]

its the best trash clear tbf

[rich glacier]

Exactly me a few days ago

[gleaming vapor]

its just outclassed by like burston in ST

[fierce lark]

i have to wonder why chinese mobile farmers use envoy instead

[rich glacier]

Burston is "good" too lol

[gleaming vapor]

honestly ive never liked the envoy

its weird ads mechanic

[gleaming vapor]

highest dps ST primary btw

[rich glacier]

No it isn't

[fierce lark]

it's a bit better than good

[fierce lark]

what's better?

[gleaming vapor]

what would you say is better

[rich glacier]

Coda synapse try it

20% hs multiplier passive

[fierce lark]

i have

[gleaming vapor]

i still dont think that beats burston

[rich glacier]

Try it

[fierce lark]

i troubleshot a few builds with the synapse because the first time it felt like shit

i eventually got it to a place where it felt alright

it did not come anywhere remotely close to what i've seen with burston, not even within the same galaxy

[rich glacier]

With my ivara it melts lvl cap I even removed the green shard because enemies just don't survive long enough to get 13 stacks

[prime phoenix]

synapse aint gonna reach burston level 💔 not even close

[peak briar]

Okay so got a couple ideas im trying out. Frost prime w/elemental ward (cold), tenet glaxion radiation w/debilitate, kuva nukor (any element) w/ secondary shiver, spinnerex toxin w/melee influence. Companion diriga for electric proc. As elemental ward proc arcane for secondary and melee. Similar to a oraxia nuking build, wanna say it was a sobek with acid shells too. Any input?

[fierce lark]

burston makes lvlcap enemies not live long enough to see more than 1 or 2 status effects lol, it vaporizes anything in front of it

[fierce lark]

debilitate sucks

[gleaming vapor]

can coda synapse do that

[prime phoenix]

burston is a honorary aoe gun because it just kill everything in 1shot

[rich glacier]

Yes

[gleaming vapor]

guilty hunhullus btw

[fierce lark]

spectral serration is so cheesy

[gleaming vapor]

I would like to see that

[prime phoenix]

synapse is not doing that to the guilty hunhullus btw

[gleaming vapor]

i genuinely wanna see how far that 20% headshot multiplier takes you

[fierce lark]

primary deadhead literally does more by itself lol

[rich glacier]

Yeah so you put arcane overcharge for multishot

More multishot and headshot multiplier

Other weapons require you to use deadhead

[gleaming vapor]

yknow that you could also run overcharge on burston right

[fierce lark]

ehhhhh

[rich glacier]

Imagine if you could i sert deadhead and overcharge on your primaries. That's coda synapse

[fierce lark]

burston gets half multishot

[gleaming vapor]

i feel like youre drastically overestimating the impact taht 20% headshot multiplier is gonna have

[prime phoenix]

just punch in some underframe numbers would tell you how big the gap actually is between the two lol

[gleaming vapor]

lemme do ts rq

[rich glacier]

30% hs multiplier is the entire reason deadhead is the best. Instead of 30 it is 20

[prime phoenix]

headshot multiplier isnt everything to a gun btw

[charred gale]

i dont think ive heard anyone say deadhead is the best period

[gleaming vapor]

send the build, ima put ts against the burston in underframe

[gleaming vapor]

its BIS for some primaries

[charred gale]

thats why i said period

[gleaming vapor]

yeah fair

[rich glacier]

https://youtu.be/k_2gUOQ52H8?is=X6aXXNY9P-I_IA_g

Same build no need to change just make sure you have warframe arcanes too

[prime phoenix]

at least put some time stamp bruh

[gleaming vapor]

man im not watching that whole thing

just send images or at least timestamps

[fierce lark]

deadhead is usually the preferred primary arcane but it's mainly because of ease of upkeep, moreso than the headshot damage

[rich glacier]

I don't

Lemme see. There should be

There are in description

[fierce lark]

underframe seems to think burston is better

[prime phoenix]

youre missing the aoe

scroll down there should be a part to combine firing mode

[gleaming vapor]

i think thats just hte radial

not both

[latent adder]

The type of enemy will also affect this cuz synapse has innate corro

[fierce lark]

oh yeah, i thought "accurate ammo" took care of that part

the enemy type is lvlcap corrupted hgunner

[gleaming vapor]

wait so what are the buffs again

[prime phoenix]

im talking about this

[fierce lark]

none

[prime phoenix]

should look like this

[gleaming vapor]

he seems to want us to try with his buffs

tho tbf im giving both guns the same buffs, so it shouldnt impact one more than the other

[prime phoenix]

wait the aoe headcrit is 1 too right

[gleaming vapor]

yeah I just set headshot% to 100%

bwah im fried rn

[vestal temple]

Nothing like some good cope in the morning ig

[latent adder]

Also could do acuity on both

[vestal temple]

Synapse is good but burston is just crazy

[gleaming vapor]

can anyone read this guys riven

[latent adder]

I tested all these on levelcap, coda synapse with acuity is second right after burston

[gleaming vapor]

i cant read rivens

[rich glacier]

Burston is crazy because a video said so

[latent adder]

Without acuity it was like 9th lol

[rich glacier]

See for yourself

[gleaming vapor]

idk ive used burston myself

[vestal temple]

No lol its crazy because its good

[gleaming vapor]

its pretty nutty

[prime phoenix]

synapse vs burston

[latent adder]

This was my empirical results

[gleaming vapor]

did you figure out what his riven was

[vestal temple]

Whats the fastest thrax ttk

[prime phoenix]

i didnt even watch the video

[vestal temple]

With both lists put together

[prime phoenix]

im not gonna dig through 13 min of that for a build

[vestal temple]

Id assume acuity burston

[prime phoenix]

if they dont send a build, id just run a default one

[latent adder]

Acuity burston

[gleaming vapor]

acuity torid at third

[rich glacier]

Test on eximus babau in your simulacrum

[gleaming vapor]

[gleaming vapor]

man i cant test ts if i dont know what your riven is

[latent adder]

Keep in mind that list was stackless no priming

[fierce lark]

im ngl i wouldn't have believed someone if they told me phenmor was fastest ttk on non-acuity builds

[latent adder]

If u had stacks and priming im assuming hema wins

[gleaming vapor]

also the element and % on the coda

[rich glacier]

I do show it I have no riven timestamp. Apparently I need to put the time before the text not the opposite

[vestal temple]

Burston rivens aren't even taken to account for ninjase's ttk list i don't think

[prime phoenix]

is hema that good

[latent adder]

At some point I couldn't reliable count frames below 500ms

[prime phoenix]

that it would beat burston ?

[vestal temple]

If we're giving synapse a riven we are giving burston a riven too

[gleaming vapor]

multico slop

[latent adder]

Yeah cuz multi co

[vestal temple]

And atp its a complete sweep

[latent adder]

If u primed with like 5+ status

[latent adder]

Nah give it a handicap

[prime phoenix]

man, i gotta get my hema up

[rich glacier]

9:33

[latent adder]

Its only fair

[prime phoenix]

burston sweep and its not even close, especially if the target has no armor

[vestal temple]

Truth nuke

[prime phoenix]

because synapse has innate corro

[rich glacier]

Yes

Burston doesn't

[prime phoenix]

can you send the acuity synapse build

[old marsh]

whats the difference between?

[vestal temple]

Burston has a ton more dps and innate heat which is 50% strip

[gleaming vapor]

thats with teh regular synapse dispo

[prime phoenix]

12m is synapse, 97m is burston

[fierce lark]

if the syn build in question has a riven it's a complete wash lol, burston has a whole .45 disp higher

[gleaming vapor]

coda cant hit those numbers

[rich glacier]

Acuity synapse is really good. I was going to use that actually but arcane overcharge gives so much multishot that it makes ms better

[old marsh]

lol

[fierce lark]

overratedcharge

[gleaming vapor]

stackless burston vs full stack coda synapse (this guys build)

[latent adder]

https://overframe.gg/build/817230/coda-synapse/whats-multishot-steel-path-acuity-coda-synapse/

[prime phoenix]

max overcharge btw

[rich glacier]

On non high energy warframes I do indeed recommend acuity

[latent adder]

Bane could be serration or hammer shot i think

[gleaming vapor]

like I said, full stack synapse vs 0 stack burston

and burston still has more than double the damage

[vestal temple]

Overcharge is still worse than acuity on synapse

[gleaming vapor]

assuming a 100% hs rate id imagine

[vestal temple]

Synapse only wins when you handicap burston

[prime phoenix]

ok acuity is substantially higher than ms

[vestal temple]

If you give burston all the same things synapse has

[gleaming vapor]

the thing is I did handicap the burston

[prime phoenix]

still way short of burston tho

[vestal temple]

It completely mops

[gleaming vapor]

and it still won

[prime phoenix]

make sure to test the burston with both hit component combined

[vestal temple]

Yeah but theres levels to this

[prime phoenix]

ive seen a lot of people punch in the number and only use the incarnon form firing mode

which doesnt account for the radial blast

[gleaming vapor]

we should start taking off mods until the synapse wins

man i miss dogekek

[gleaming vapor]

that didnt change much

[vestal temple]

The only argument i can see for synapse

[prime phoenix]

this still beat synapse

[vestal temple]

Is it may feel better for killing crowds

[prime phoenix]

is this calculate dps or luck average dps

[vestal temple]

And even then probably not

[prime phoenix]

only for hallways

[gleaming vapor]

luck average

[prime phoenix]

cuz acuity burston have issues with pt-ing a hallway of goons

not like it matter much cuz 1shot is enough to kill

[vestal temple]

More damage doesn't matter for most content is a w rebuttal

Call that shit a perfect parry

https://tenor.com/view/the-wrld-tour-gif-14702468268550282905

[prime phoenix]

burston killing enemies in 1shot as a full auto gun make it a honorary aoe gun

[vestal temple]

Nruth tuke

[gleaming vapor]

and the kullervo from descendia still took a full burston mag per phase

frickass attenuation

i love having to talk like a third grader

[vestal temple]

attenuate dn

I thought you said third gender

[gleaming vapor]

bro

[vestal temple]

Where are my glasses bro

[gleaming vapor]

clearly not on your face

[vestal temple]

Im in bed but where are they

[prime phoenix]

i ate it

[vestal temple]

You don't say

[gleaming vapor]

this server lowk sucks

not enough cat reactions

[vestal temple]

You right

[prime phoenix]

[gleaming vapor]

wheres wires

[opal leaf]

Miaou miaou

[gleaming vapor]

wheres glorp
wheres sogged
wheres egg

[vestal temple]

You should ping the mod team and solve this issue (/s incase your not able to decipher sarcasm)

[gleaming vapor]

idk seems legit

[prime phoenix]

absolute glorpshippo

[vestal temple]

Glorping

[vestal temple]

Bro tried

[gleaming vapor]

gosh darn it

[vestal temple]

Im crine

Bypassing restrictions i see

[gleaming vapor]

it was worth a shot

[crimson cedar]

Oh hi Kaylee 👋🏻 nice work aroud misc damage, we have a common friend, he introduce me to your works. GG.

[vestal temple]

Wouldn't want the mod team finding out about this now would we? Checkmate.

[prime phoenix]

[gleaming vapor]

why wouldnt we want the mod team to find out about wires

[vestal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/chess-smirk-en-mewing-chess-kid-gif-6925056696049047421

[gleaming vapor]

i think wires would be great

[vestal temple]

Tyty

[vestal temple]

Truth nuke

[gleaming vapor]

i need to get to finishing my video lowk

i gotta do finals tho

this damn school

[vestal temple]

I have hardly started lowkey

[gleaming vapor]

my finals are next week

and i have a lab practical tomorrow

lowk cooked

[vestal temple]

I only have the motivation to make short form funnies atm

[gleaming vapor]

i had the motivation to make a full guide

luckily the hard parts done now

i just need to get build segments and shit

[vestal temple]

Depending on the type of cooked you'll either be passing and in jail or failing

[gleaming vapor]

i need a 95% on my final to get a b in calc 2

[vestal temple]

I have commitment issues when it comes to videos

[gleaming vapor]

the rest of my classes are prolly chill tho

[vestal temple]

I think it flew over your head

[gleaming vapor]

i have like 4 people waiting on this video

[gleaming vapor]

idk it prolly did

am tired

[vestal temple]

Wheres the mesa x nova yuri anyway

Did he end up making it lol

[gleaming vapor]

dont think so

you can ask desmos again ig

[vestal temple]

Salutations! I am writing regarding pressing matters and require your art skills!

[gleaming vapor]

:kek

[vestal temple]

Bros to wf unofficial coded

[gleaming vapor]

im surprised this server doesnt have any keks

[vestal temple]

💅

[gleaming vapor]

ig they got

lowk kinda sucks tho

[vestal temple]

Hardly looks like a kek

[gleaming vapor]

yeah

[vestal temple]

Or an omegalul

[gleaming vapor]

ig this ones not bad

[vestal temple]

This is tuff

[gleaming vapor]

so its vomeyes vs wires, sogged, dogekek, egg, glorp

this is not looking good for ts server bro 😭

[vestal temple]

Its getting mogged

[gleaming vapor]

truly

[vestal temple]

Lack of expression

Why not allow emotes from other servers but allow gifs though

[gleaming vapor]

i cant find any cat reactions

[gleaming vapor]

man i couldnt do that either way

i dont have nitro :kek

[vestal temple]

Isnt the gifs thing gonna have the same problem that disabling other emojis aims to solve

[gleaming vapor]

prolly

[vestal temple]

Shrug

[gleaming vapor]

shrug

[vestal temple]

I can still impose my will of elation so

[gleaming vapor]

i cant wires

im devastated

close enough

[vestal temple]

U just reminded me of the word wireback and made me choke

[crimson cedar]

inspirated by stuff you share, i finally make really fun interactions with Oraxia, Elemental ward Cold + Diriga + Spinnerex : finally make the Oraxia's signature melee working without using it 😄

[vestal temple]

Hell yeah

IgnusT did the same thing a couple months back

[crimson cedar]

using the armor buff from cold ward to reach 700+ final armo to play persisence without trumbra+blueshard, and OG generation with reflected damage on eximus with og, it works very well for her

[solar reef]

ideally you should hit 700 armor without the use of ability

for the off chance you get absolutely derailed by nullies or violence

[crimson cedar]

nullies are not a problem, violence can't reach me on walls/roof 🤡

[solar reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934062419733536768/1081255061688160266/678BF311-C300-4284-BF9E-7BFADA0DA42B.gif

[crimson cedar]

if i die, skill issue

[vestal temple]

Zenos described it well

Oraxia persistence is a timer

Swap in and out if 4 to heal

[crimson cedar]

timed with her invisibility on wall latch to safe recast

[vestal temple]

Mhm