builds-discussion

[surreal hemlock]

@mellow tartan is the dread incarnon AOE?

[topaz tiger]

surely this is good no?

[old marsh]

Ye

Crit dmg is ideal but this is good

[magic garnet]

Buil cedo ?

[gleaming vapor]

bo really wants -imp

so while this isnt bad, it doesnt have the one thing that makes it good

[topaz tiger]

what's imp

[brittle sleet]

Impact

[topaz tiger]

ah ic

[inner raptor]

go full girth. roll max range

[topaz tiger]

i was trying that xdd

got that instead tho

[old marsh]

Nami Solo 2.0

[inner raptor]

shlong bo

[oblique junco]

what incarnons are good dis week?

[fierce lark]

all of them

bo is extremely good and the other 4 are among the best in class

bo probably is too tbh idk

unless im missing some obscure setup thing, furis inc is the highest dps in the game vs anything that can be status'd

[unborn plinth]

best build for saryn

[twin pine]

Would like a suggestion on how do i build and play around Enkaus

[old marsh]

Multishot

[twin pine]

just focus on status?

assuming 60/60 is the best pairing on enkaus

also multishot ofc

[oblique junco]

my weekly incarnons might be ahead of yours cuz time difference idk @fierce lark

[twin pine]

magistar and boltor is a solid pick

mainly magistar

you can pair it with base magistar for higher base damage, or sancti magistar for survivability but lower base damage

[glass moon]

is the ceramic dagger still good as a statstick for some frames

[fierce lark]

oh wiki wasn't updated lol

magistar > lex > cdagger > boltor would be my order

[short falcon]

not me having bronco and boltor

[fierce lark]

it can be used with a riven as an initial combo statstick for secondary outburst setups

that's about it

statsticking for exalteds isn't a thing anymore

[wary forge]

C dagger is still good for finishers

For some outburst stuff ye

Bronco is nice for utility but I wouldn’t get it over the other incarnons unless u already got them

[echo lantern]

So, like this is really good right?

[charred gale]

if you wanna use blast on it sure its pretty good

[undone dust]

this is why you're sooooo stupid

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1474526850276397189/1478566168615981260/caption.gif

[echo lantern]

I figured blast for the incarnon is solid, double positive damage and a positive crit chance just seems nuts

[charred gale]

most ppl run viral heat

and the double positives are additive to each other

[echo lantern]

I mean I still can technically, it's mostly an extra crit chance mod with more damage stapled to it

[charred gale]

if you’re gonna run viral heat id go with another roll ngl

u can slot it over the crit mod but thats 50% less crit chance

[echo lantern]

I'm also running Nourish on my builds that run burston so do I need viral?

[charred gale]

nah

[wary forge]

Blast burston is that tech

C/tech

[elfin sluice]

How can I improve this hound setup? I'm somewhat at a loss here.

[wary forge]

Does it keep dying or something

[violet silo]

I think repo audit is a good one, right?

[wary forge]

Try using reflex denial that should help

[violet silo]

I gotta build a hound

[wary forge]

Or u can always go pack leader and melee

Pack leader is just on hit so u can just get hits or like slam around for movement and it will trigger pack leader

[elfin sluice]

yep

[wary forge]

Try the denial mods

[elfin sluice]

i have evasive denial tucked in there

[wary forge]

Ok I mean it shouldn’t be dying that much ig try reflex or adding shield recharge mod

[prime scarab]

Okay, finalizing my Nyx build.

2pc Amar for teleporting, but also the parkour velocity helps in assimilate and the 15 strength means I can fully strip with bolts and corrosive projection.

The rest is pretty self explanatory.

Right now my thought is to put fleeting expertise in that last slot but I'm not exactly struggling for uptime on assimilate as it is.

So 2 questions.

1. Any suggestions on this last mod slot for a weapons platform Nyx?
2. Any fun arcanes for her?

[tardy lily]

Arcane fallout for energy since your 3rd will trigger it

Me personally I run her with strun cause it has huge trash clear plus I can use arcane tempo on her to boost the fire rate

Her passive comes in handy if I want all read on my screen

NGL her 4th will still be slow might as well subsume wrathful advance on her for better movement but if your fine with that movement go for breach surge

[tardy lily]

Fall out removes the need for equilibrium

[prime scarab]

Nice good thoughts thanks!

[drifting imp]

Is negative impact a dealbreaker on a bo riven

[charred gale]

nah -ips is good

[drifting imp]

How does that work? That’s like most of the Bo’s base damage

[fierce lark]

no it’s extremely desired, and that roll is insane

like im pretty sure if it was +as instead of range it would be groll

[charred gale]

i dont think lowering ips actually lowers dmg or smth

[fierce lark]

lowering ips drastically increases the electric weighting for influence

[charred gale]

range is still pretty nice

[fierce lark]

range is nice on most melees, but bo inc has like 62 billion range already

[charred gale]

wouldnt that just increase it by alot more

[fierce lark]

yeah but like, +3 range matters a lot more when base range is, say, 2 vs when it’s 8+

that said idk if bo normally runs reach, if it does the riven would go there

[charred gale]

ic

[drifting imp]

Cool thanks for the help yall

[charred gale]

np

[frozen grail]

opinions on the verdilac or the dorrclave?

[mighty flare]

dorrclave good overall, verdilac has niche tech

oh wait verdilac is the orb right? its okay if ur fine with block-combo spamming

[frozen grail]

hm alright, is it worth pumping forma into and buffing it for my EDA over the lex which is the only other usable weapon i can throw forma into for it?

[frozen grail]

its this one

[mighty flare]

yea, you run usual influence on both dorrclave/verdilac

dorrclave is very simple/consistent weapon with 1.0 follow through and a flat 100% status chance boost
verdilac has other niche traits like it's toxin orb on block-combos or electric slams

would reccomend dorrclave

[frozen grail]

ah alright that makes sense, worth throwing forma into over using the lex for my EDA?

[mighty flare]

lex with incarnon? both good for trash clear in eda

would forma dorrclave to have the like only usable blade & whip

[frozen grail]

sounds good ill give it a shot then! thank you

[old marsh]

anyone got a Zakti build

this one is from 4 yrs ago.

or maybe i should make it Enervate

[novel bear]

Minus impact has a major effect on bo’s direct damage
But it doesn’t affect electric status damage at all, so it has minimal effect on influence builds

[charred gale]

ah ic, thank you

[fierce lark]

minus impact should drastically increase its damage

you lose raw damage, but you get over 2x the amount of electricity procs instead of useless impact procs

and since you're always running elementalist and have a final status chance of ~400%, it should make a huge difference

[plain dust]

Billions must influence 🤯

I need a godly melee riven unveiling

[mighty flare]

noncrit build is still viable, but not like that and relies on banes/elementalist
hybrid enervate is the other method

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[mighty flare]

gimme 1 sec

[old marsh]

i hate banes so imma skip that. will go enervate. sucks that the fire rate and mag cap is so low.

using underframe to make a build and see

[rancid mirage]

What are you using zakti for

Im js curious

[old marsh]

mobs. i aint even gonna bother with hard targets

[fierce lark]

i actually checked in underframe and yeah, adding a riven that did literally nothing but removed the impact damage increased dps by about 20% on just a single target lol

including the damage lost on CO from no impact status

[old marsh]

also i am curious to know if i can use its radial atk for something interesting

[rancid mirage]

you might be able to do something interesting w lavos cus I js found out that it does gas proc after initial hit?

[rancid mirage]

i was bout to say that

[mighty flare]

gas is very weak without it

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scroll-crying-depression-doomscrolling-gif-4138822033792608878

[rancid mirage]

yea you either need roar or other universal buffs

[old marsh]

uninstalling WF then

[rancid mirage]

js use roar for minimum braining

[old marsh]

normally i would but i usually build my weapons with EDA/ETA in mind, relying less on WF buffs and more on raw dmg

[rancid mirage]

You kinda js gotta stack other popular convenient weapons tbh before going for build wizardry

So that you get at least one good weapon for it

[mighty flare]

hybrid: https://overframe.gg/build/1013197/zakti-prime/zatki-prime-hybrid-enervate/
noncrit: https://overframe.gg/build/1013194/zakti-prime/zatki-prime-noncrit/

[old marsh]

already done it with 100+. now looking at the remaining 600+ with a side eye

https://tenor.com/view/boombastic-side-eye-gif-4414228678399147455

[rancid mirage]

100+?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/gracias-thanks-thank-you-cry-sad-gif-16869590

[old marsh]

100+ weapons that r fully kitted out to handle EDA/ETA content

[rancid mirage]

nice

your goal is get generalist build for all weapons?

[old marsh]

not all. first i am selecting the ones capable. some weapons just cant be saved

they will forever be MR fodder

unless Pablo gives them an augment

[rancid mirage]

ig thats true

[old marsh]

but not like Velox. Pablo did it dirty making it a stat stick

[rancid mirage]

yea it sucks that it pretty much is js alternative for grimore

[old marsh]

Behold. SnapShot Prime

[rancid mirage]

It shouldve gave stats that the tome doesn’t give

[old marsh]

atleast i dont have to waste a catalyst on it

[rancid mirage]

ig its good for newer players but I js feel like most players who cares enough to mess w snapshotting already have all tome mods and their book formaed

so throwing a same 60% str buff is js

sigh

and its on same slot so you cant even use w the book

[warm obsidian]

What's a good Secondary for Yareli that isn't Kompressa, Dual Toxo or the Liches

[rancid mirage]

do you also exclude kuva nukor too

[warm obsidian]

Yep

[rancid mirage]

dangit

[warm obsidian]

Heard this is a good combo for her

[rancid mirage]

I am a big fan of
Angstrum and onos but they are semi popular weapons

prisma angstrum js so glorious

[old marsh]

crit Laetum, Furis, Onos, P Angstrum, Akarius P, , Twin Kohmak, Lex P, Lato P, Pyrana P

[mighty flare]

yea that works, its usual full crit setup
i personally like macro thymoid over splat

[rancid mirage]

bro hit em with “the usuals”lmao

That guy seems like he wanted like some secret sauce secondary but i js don’t rlly know any

[rancid mirage]

But on serious note, you can even use tennet plinx if you don’t mind grouping beforehand

[proud vault]

Isn't lato prime not obtainable xD

[old marsh]

oops. Lato V then

[proud vault]

Now we talking

[old marsh]

thank god its cheap af to buy now

[rancid mirage]

lato vandel looks better anyways

[proud vault]

Lato Prime is in the founder pack

[scenic echo]

HALLO people of the tenno assembly

I recently asked about a riven that had crit dmg + and fire rate - for the Sepelcrum

I asked for builds and some were helpful, some were not helpful

well for those that were and for those that werent I present the final build after rerolling the riven - via many suggestions

exilus slot will be recoil reduction, and the blocked mod is heat to give both radial and main shot radiation dmg

damage calcs for it as well

I couuuuld theorhetically pump the crit even more, but i feel it would be at the cost of too much dmg

[warm obsidian]

Lex P feels slow
Even with Incarnon

[scenic echo]

bump the firerate?

What is yours at? you can get it to 2.9 with lethal torrent and creeping bullseye

[rancid mirage]

Do you use fire rate arcane with lethal torrent and all

also replace creeping w primed

[scenic echo]

idk I prefer the extra squeeze of crit chance

[old marsh]

its slow as shit and i have seen builds with the damn cannonade. but by god is it bad even with lethal torrent

[rancid mirage]

Do you use critical delay on all weapons and never use point strike

[scenic echo]

whos to say

[rancid mirage]

besides statues weapons

[scenic echo]

I MEAN tho - tbh who uses point strike when u have crit delay. - we need a primed crit delay and that may change my opinion lol

[rancid mirage]

its not rlly wrong to prioritize crit and bigger numbers but I mod for comfort

I also often use amal serration over regular serration if I use base dmg mod

[scenic echo]

fair, I mod to squeeze and then for comfort by adding something like anemic agility

[rancid mirage]

I personally (almost) always use point strike for status crit hybrid

[scenic echo]

totes fair, I just think point strike is a fugly mod after staring at it for so many years - need a primed version to shiney in my mod slot

[rancid mirage]

yea I js rlly like fire rates, I even use arcane consequences and fire rate arcane if my warframe has flex arcane slots

that 60% parkour with praedos and I am flying through

[novel bear]

Ppg is better than creeping
Critical delay is better than point strike

[scenic echo]

ppg?

[rancid mirage]

pp g

[old marsh]

the only reason to ever use creeping is if u r using cannonade or u r a new player and dont have forma/mod

[rancid mirage]

I forget cannonade exists

but my fire rateee

[old marsh]

imo it is a phenomenal mod BUT it also negates external fire rate buffs

[rancid mirage]

yea ig it be funny if you have negative firerate riven w creeping

[old marsh]

which sucks. including reinforced bond

it is essentially a better dmg mod AND extra PT. but sucks if u want fire rate

[rancid mirage]

yea use whatever you want if you know how to stack diff multipliers

I ma stay w my arcane consequence

[warm obsidian]

Don't get the hype around Dual Toxo

[mighty flare]

irradiate is not great, raw radiation is not good in general, you'd use accelerated isotopes instead, but lethal torrent is better
sepul just goes for usual viral heat, the riven replacing the usual cold mod
arcane would be cascadia flare since the gun is multico and wants another dmg% source alongside galv shot

[rancid mirage]

It’s js really easy to use and you js need to build it to clear most things in the game if not everything

[old marsh]

Headshots go brrrr

[rancid mirage]

no external buff needed& easy to use

[old marsh]

Without headshots it’s just shit

[warm obsidian]

Easy to Use
Need Headshots

[rancid mirage]

ig we have different standards

imo its rlly js hit few headshots and turn on incarnon and crowd clear

its not occucor lvl easy but its still in realm of easy imo

[warm obsidian]

Yeah...
Weapon needing Incarnon to be good just ain't selling it for me

[sharp portal]

Opinions of Akjagara Prime?

And Redeemer Prime?

[rancid mirage]

Its kinda of like main focus of incarnon

to let some older weapons shine instead of letting most of them sit in dumpster for 10 years

weapons get incarnon bc they kinda need it

[near vortex]

imagine if the Torid was actually good and rewards you for having aim

That's the Dual Toxocyst

[valid plaza]

Dual tox and angstrum both ricochet headshot, yeah?

Which is the better one if using Cyte's Evade?

[near vortex]

Dual tox

Angstrum I think is good too but I've used it less

Angstrum I think is better specifically with bullet attractors

[balmy zinc]

Syam build?

[rich glacier]

Has anyone made the javlok good? I can’t see any way to make it good other than using its alt fire for easier headshots on my secondary

[sharp portal]

Any tematic build for Mesa?

I was thinking about something like John Marston from RDR

Some Dual Pistols, a Sniper Rifle

[mighty flare]

theres examples here: #1500489300754825367 message

[fleet veldt]

anyone got a magistar build (no riven pls)

[warm obsidian]

Any benefit from going over 100% Status Chance?

[frosty fjord]

past 100% is a chance to proc multiple times

[fierce lark]

status chance works more or less the same as crit chance

100% status is a guaranteed proc with a relative chance for an extra, same with 200 300 etc

[placid aspen]

how would i go building a sobek for saryn?
apart from acid shells, what else do i add

[fierce lark]

damage, multishot, both toxin mods + 60 cold, elementalist, cleanse, fire rate

[placid aspen]

then change the cleanse depending on which content im doing i assume

[rich glacier]

Does saryn not use warframe arcane for fire rate?

[pale belfry]

Her toxic slash scale with weapon tox mod, so you may need 90% on it

Progen as well

[placid aspen]

also before i go ham on investing on her
i know prime's are just minor stat bumps, but should i dip into her prime or is the base one fine

[pale belfry]

Theres no reason to use base when you got prime

Theres a few super rare case base better than prime

[rich glacier]

Depends on price. Lemme check

[placid aspen]

no i mean i can go out and buy prime if its big stat bumps like volt and volt prime

but if its nothing crazy, is it fine just sticking to normal one

[rich glacier]

Only warframes that are mandatory for primed versions are ones that need primed flow or persistence frames

[pale belfry]

But what happend if you got prime? Yeah, circuit will display the prime first no matter what

[rich glacier]

Nokko prime will be totally pointless other than aesthetics

[pale belfry]

Thats the problem

[fierce lark]

you can use tempo if you want to use clip delegation or a cc mod

[pale belfry]

Im filled my saryn beloved with full of omnia forma

[placid aspen]

also which companion for her?

[pale belfry]

Whatever

She is a nuker, she will instant kill almost everything before your pet had enough time to touch it

Even level cap

All you need is activate those bond mods

Fire rate, cd,...

[sand fog]

What stat should I focus on for nidus

[old marsh]

range but wait for the update so we know for sure which would be better

[sand fog]

Thanks very much

[versed harbor]

is pure slash dash excal still a thing and if so hows it built

[latent adder]

no its dead

it can influence now

[versed harbor]

rip

[latent adder]

wait

i thought u said pure 'slash'

[versed harbor]

I was gonna try like an afflictions mecha

[latent adder]

yes you can pure slash dash with influence

its better than ever

its built the same as normal excal exalted blade cuz it shares those mods now

[old marsh]

i almost got a heart attack seeing u say that slash dash excal is dead

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[latent adder]

lmao i thought it said 'pure slash excal'

im like.. slash is dead

[versed harbor]

ok ye its just influence rot

[rich glacier]

Easy to misunderstand when the ability is named slash dash

[versed harbor]

I wish I could experiment more just feels like excal is 90% mandatory mods

[pale belfry]

Just say dash

Ez

[rich glacier]

Sadly it is. Not just excal. Any melee weapon

[versed harbor]

well ye true

I just miss excal having like atleast three builds now it feels like just one

[rich glacier]

It is 1

[pale belfry]

Excal still the most boring frame compare with mag and volt

[misty wadi]

With the new Voruna shroud of Dynar rework, would y'all go for arcane crepuscular and arcane impetus, or arcane crepuscular and molt augmented?

[old marsh]

both. former for shorter missions. latter for longer

[pale belfry]

Focus on short run build because most of the game, you are not gonna do endurance all the time

And impetus is suck imo

[misty wadi]

For short missions I usually go with Gauss, and I usually take Voruna out for grinding resources. So molt augmented is the overall better pick I take it then?

[pale belfry]

Gauss is something meh that i wont take for short run

Slower than me using bullet jump + rolling boost

Even operator sling

While gauss spending time to kiss the wall, everyone else already at the extraction point

[versed harbor]

dont hit walls ez

[misty wadi]

Nah I got his 1 down pretty well, I don't easily get stuck

Have been actively playing him for a year at this point so it figures

[celest tendon]

Which one left or right.

[pale belfry]

Parkour velocity solve all the jobs

[misty wadi]

But if I'm getting this correct the overall ability strength increase of molt augmented at full force beats impetus, even with the massive amount of status spread on Voruna's kit?

[old marsh]

left and stop

[pale belfry]

The problem is maintaining the arcane in the real combat

[celest tendon]

[versed harbor]

10 statuses matches the strength of molt augmented and you get the bonus of efficiency

keep in mind once you have it built up you can proc any status and itll refresh the timer too

[misty wadi]

That's true, I forgot about the efficiency

[pale belfry]

There is total 13 statuses you could procs on her

But like i said, i dont pay attention on maintaining arcane except min maxing

[versed harbor]

its pretty comfy tbh as long as you are casting every like what 20 seconds

[pale belfry]

Not that worth to spending more braincell for a thing that still able to handle without it

[misty wadi]

Eh, the way I play Voruna I'm constantly using her 2 and 4 anyways, so keeping impetus up shouldn't be a problem with her

[pale belfry]

Im subsume xata over her 4

Dont really like it

And use parkour velocity as passive

I build up voruna for doing less job as possible

[misty wadi]

Ulfrun's endurance makes her 4 a lot of fun, and her entire kit pretty busted tbh. Not having to exit invisibility or recast her 3 or 4 ever if you play well is very nice

Hence why arcane crepuscular is absolutely mandatory for me

[misty wadi]

Also yeah me too

If I knew how incredibly fast she moves I would have picked her up a lot sooner

[pale belfry]

I only care about her flat sc and cc, cd from her invis (1st)

[fickle nimbus]

best gun / melee for MR 6?

[pale belfry]

Grind for xoris, its free

[misty wadi]

Anything you enjoy pretty much, weapons only really start falling off on higher levels

[fickle nimbus]

i just wanna be op early on, i find that fun

[pale belfry]

If you want fun, should do all the main quest and get access to SP

[fickle nimbus]

thats what im doing

[pale belfry]

Where you done tutorial and SP is real content

[misty wadi]

Broken war will always have a special place in my heart, I remember destroying both large groups of enemies and bosses with it

And it's free, with an orokin catalyst preinstalled

Very good for early game content, but in steel path it falls off a bit

[fickle nimbus]

i think thats the one i use

idk if i have a good build on it

[pale belfry]

Broken is good until they craft it to war

[misty wadi]

I ran it with a high crit+viral build and it was my main weapon for ages

[pale belfry]

From slash dmg to impact

[fickle nimbus]

i dunno what that is, new to these terms

[misty wadi]

By the time I got my war blueprint I had far better weapons already unfortunately, but I still want to try building it sometime since it looks really cool

[pale belfry]

War had cool fashion, thats why i bought the tonfas skin tennogen like that

Tennogen skin is sucb incredible thing but still want DE disable incarnon form visual

[misty wadi]

Well with crit I just meant critical chance and damage, and viral is a status effect created by putting cold and toxic on your weapon, when an enemy is afflicted by viral, the damage that you do to them afterwards is multiplied

[fickle nimbus]

i see, thanks

[misty wadi]

Yeah I have this gripe with Hate

The enlightened hate skin just disappears when you activate the incarnon and it's kind of a bummer because with that one specifically it's such an easy fix

[misty wadi]

Oh yeah by the way, the viral multiplier specifically targets health and not shields, but since broken war also innately has a high slash status on it you wouldn't really need to worry about shields too much as a slash status effect will bypass shields and drain an enemy's health. This health drain then also gets multiplied by viral.

[fickle nimbus]

Thanks for the explanation, this build/modding stuff gets confusing 😭

[rich glacier]

Magnetic is shield/overguard viral

[eager charm]

It is, there are only a few rules that you should follow to make gear good... I think something that people struggle to understand early on is that your "power level" is determined by the level/type of your mods rather than any kind of intrinsic number

If you're MR6, xoris/broken war with a basic build will carry you through story

Reach, fury, pressure, steel, organ shatter, tox, cold

[misty wadi]

I'm nearly at mastery rank 16 and I'm still learning new things a lot of the time, it's a process. Just last week I had to completely re-learn my understanding of the blast status effect 😅

[fickle nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/mob-psycho-season3-mob-psycho-reigen-arataka-reigen-thumbs-up-gif-26873417

[eager charm]

Plus corrupt charge for xoris

That's kinda it

Every gun uses a variation of:
Base damage(serration)
Multishot(split chamber)
Crit chance
Crit damage
Elements(tox cold heat for viral heat, etc)
Then whatever else you want like fire rate

Frames are the most nuanced builds imo

Bc theres no real "general template"

[rich glacier]

Forgot elementalist and faction mods/roar

[misty wadi]

Also I think it's important to say that weapons aren't really OP, builds are. As far as I can tell, the less forma you have to spend on a weapon to make it viable, the better it is. a handful of weapons are genuinely irredeemable, but whether a weapon is good or not really just depends on the mods in most cases

[whole tinsel]

which one do you guys reckon is better

[rich glacier]

Left

[crimson cedar]

left, 3/3 usefull stats, and can replace tox mod slot

[whole tinsel]

aight

oh this is painful

[fickle nimbus]

Uriel build?

[eager charm]

If you're low MR, focus on energy efficiency with stuff like flow, streamline, and energy nexus if you can find it
Since you're probably doing base star chart, focus on range with mods like stretch, augur reach, cunning drift
Duration will also be nice for his buffs and 4 burn time

[tawny bay]

Idk which one would be better

[old marsh]

right

[tawny bay]

Okk

[simple frost]

can you guys help me build gram prime

im in the process of getting the adapter stuff

[simple frost]

isnt crit chance useless on burston

cuz of the incarnon

[eager charm]

If you're looking for a steel path build, the common template for melees is:
Condition Overload
Range(reach or spring loaded)
Attack speed(berserker fury or primed fury)
Blood Rush
Galvanized Steel
Galvanized Elementalist
Weeping Wounds
Electric mod like shocking touch

Plus melee influence

If you want a more single target focused build, remove the elemental/status stuff for crit damage and change arcane to something like animosity

[viscid bane]

Remove Jagged edge, Carnis mandible and relentless combination. IPS mods are not recommended unless you have a specific set up in mind

Add Blood Rush, Weeping Wounds and electric mod instead. Get Melee Influence arcane once you're able

[rich glacier]

Right

[ripe ore]

i apologize for this being in the companion app, but im not home
maybe someone can help with my build (i dont have nourish yet)

[old marsh]

i dont mind helping. but real question is why not just ask when u get home

[ripe ore]

because adhd and forgetting

[old marsh]

assuming u r planning to use his 4 a lot, u dont need the augments and u really dont want negative efficiency. specially when u can mod base dmg from that ability anyways. u can drop cold, electric and heat mods. when possible get a primed tox mod. u wanna build in advance it for Kullervo's wrathful advance (will be worth it). add spoiled strike and attack speed mods. faster it is, faster clears will be

[tardy lily]

Hmmm this build is for his 4th which your putting too much status on and not using condition overload

He said he didn't have nourish brother have fun grinding duviri 💀

[old marsh]

i have faith. he will do it

[ripe ore]

my question is
do i need finisher dmg on the shadows for the 4 to make more dmg or is it calculated off of strength and normal damage of the shadows

[tardy lily]

Get yourself some galvanized steel,prime pressure point,spoiled strike and berserk fury

[old marsh]

YES. YES

[eager charm]

Imo nourish isnt even that good of a subsume on ash, savage silence is more fun+more thematic

[ripe ore]

isnt nourish that grind for grendel

[tardy lily]

With no mods equip btw

[ripe ore]

ikr, my friend says „nah it aint worth it“

[old marsh]

it isnt but i doubt he has any

[ripe ore]

+1000% finisher dmg go brrrrr

[eager charm]

Hildryn/octavia are free clears for grendel missions

[ripe ore]

i do have a silence build for ash

also, is melee retaliation a good take?

[eager charm]

If retal is the shield one, absolutely not

[old marsh]

nope. for him its exposure

[ripe ore]

i shall remember

[hollow plover]

do i use contagious bond on panzer for the viral priming?

[eager charm]

Spores already do that, contagious bond is for aoe electric dps on pet

[pale belfry]

Panzer already had it

[hollow plover]

spreading it i mean

[eager charm]

If you want absolute maximum viral spread and have the mod space, sure

[hollow plover]

this is waht i hhave on rn

[eager charm]

Usually unnoticable

[eager charm]

No fr or crit dmg bond?

[pale belfry]

Viral heat

[hollow plover]

tenacious bond i dont have enough standing rank, i kinda neglected fortuna

[eager charm]

Reinforced/tenacious is a staple on every companion imo, I think its abt 20p still

[pale belfry]

Reinf only if it can reach 1k2 shield by anyway

[eager charm]

Panzer can reach that with upgraded redirection mod, yes

[pale belfry]

Some sentinels like heios carrier and few beast iirc

[hollow plover]

i sold my bite for plat so i cant use tenacious on him

haha, guess i will farm for another one

[pale belfry]

Just buy another one

Because the grind is ass

[tardy lily]

No matter how broke I am I WILL NEVER DO THIS 💀

[pale belfry]

Most the bite on market are randomly drop by dogs

Like lua the most especially

[hollow plover]

i had like 5, got 300 plat

[pale belfry]

I dont think there is somebody doing cache to grind the mod for plat

[hollow plover]

cervantes sabotage right, pretty easy with titania imo

[hollow plover]

i did

[pale belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out-gif-25378754

Eww

[dry thistle]

guys any recommendation for burston prime mod?

[tardy lily]

If you have the incarnon you can never go wrong with random bullshit go 😂😂

Just your typical galvanized mods

A heat mod preferably a primed heat mod

Raw damage

[eager charm]

@dry thistle

[warm obsidian]

Does Crit Laetum work?

[green gyro]

yeah it's good

[fervent rapids]

I mean sure

[green gyro]

use enervate and the other evo

overwhelming attrition

[jovial flax]

what stats should i be looking when rolling cedo rivens?

[crimson cedar]

multishot, maybe tox (to replace tox mod on the modding), crit damage

[wary forge]

Don’t roll cedo rivens

[prime scarab]

Categorically better than non-crit laetum in every situation, yes.

Damage Attenuation means non-crit falls off pretty hard against anything that isn't dying in half a second.

[warm obsidian]

Seeing builds without CC mods but tons of CD, relying on Enervate

[hollow plover]

okay blank slate and its been a while since i played her

[smoky field]

is this mod on venari enough to trigger reinforced bond guys?

[hot lynx]

Should I start with mag or volt, I'm starting a new account since my switch wiped itself and on my switch I chose Excalibur

I know volt you get from research in a clan and mag you can get naturally aswell as Excalibur

[versed harbor]

up to you tbh id say volt is easier

if u know what your doing mag can cook even early game

all 3 are good anywho

[hot lynx]

I had played mag once in a while on a different account and it was a beast but I chose volt on my switch's alt so Ive had experience with all 3

[green gyro]

doesn't rly matter

you can go volt ig

[warm obsidian]

Definitely got Arcane Persistence and Battery

[green gyro]

excal is the strongest of the 3 when you have no good mods but it doesn't matter

[late ice]

How can i make my strun better

[warm obsidian]

Was running this before
But needs 1 Umbra Forma

Now running this occasionally swapping Adrenaline for Equilibrium

[marble marten]

Dark sword needs CD?

[rich glacier]

Arcane debilitate and add purple electric shards

[inner raptor]

never had valkyr before. what's the battery/mana for?

[warm obsidian]

Gets Max energy based on def
Since Valkyr prime at max has 1k Def she chan easily reach 500 energy for the Purple Archon Shards

[inner raptor]

only if you run WA. else status

[warm obsidian]

525 energy with just Arcane Battery

[inner raptor]

so just for cd huh. i thought she has something like quick thinking in her kit. thanks

[warm obsidian]

Gameplay boils down to Activate 4 then rip and tear

[tall silo]

what should i add to this build? Also any arcane rec?

[livid quartz]

What's better these days for a volt melee build, Eclipse or Roar?

[rich glacier]

Weeping wounds on fury and sadly only 1 arcane option , influence. As for attack speed you slap arcane strike on warframe. Does attack speed affect slam? If it does just slap strike on warframe

Edit. Didn't notice the lack of elementalist. Remove toxin for elementalist.

[pastel temple]

Roar

[violet silo]

roar or wrathful

roar for big influence procs

wrathful for big punch

[violet silo]

um

influence on magistar

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/216371815482654720/1498004406237659319/togif.gif

[pastel temple]

Slop on slop in the big 26????

[violet silo]

since when were we running influence on magistar wtf

[modern vale]

Wdym slop?

[pastel temple]

You must be new. We like to call the most boring melee arcane (most boring arcane in general actually) slop

[violet silo]

magistar = overused slam slop
influence = even more over used light attack slop

[modern vale]

Ohh I see

[violet silo]

that doesnt mean they're good together tho wtf

[modern vale]

Isn't the influence arcane very strong, that's why ppl use it?

[pastel temple]

Slop ≠ not strong. Don't get that twisted

[modern vale]

I've seen the other arcanes and they don't look so great

[modern vale]

Oh I see I see

[pastel temple]

In fact, influence being one of if not the strongest melee arcane in the entire game makes it more prone to being called slop

[violet silo]

influence magistar is far from the only option for arcanes tho
terrible idea

[warm obsidian]

Peak slop I encounter in co-op
Wukong / Prime
Torrid
Furris
Magistar / Sancti

[violet silo]

slop is overused, boring stuff

[violet silo]

furis aint slop

thats like...
ocucor or smth

[rich glacier]

I fluence is the best in the game by far. If you're going to use slop magistar, you might as well fully commit the slop instead of half ass it

[warm obsidian]

Sure but in that Set-up

[violet silo]

yeah but influence is shit on magi

[modern vale]

What defines a good combination of Influence + melle? Weapons like Exalted Blade?
I understood that Magistar with influence is bad bc u usually run heavy attack on it, right?

[tall silo]

if no influence then what?

[rich glacier]

How?

[violet silo]

its a slam weapon theres only like one good influence slam

arca titron

[warm obsidian]

Fast attacking ones like claws

[pastel temple]

Melees that can proc elementals really well count as really good influence candidates. Bonus if they can force proc elec

[rich glacier]

What is so different about it compared to every other melee in the game?

[violet silo]

slam

the way its used

[rich glacier]

Magistar slams

Melee weapons slam

[old marsh]

Jat Kittag

[modern vale]

Hummn I see
For a build that uses raw heavy attacks (no heavy attack to the ground), would Animosity Arcane be better?

[rich glacier]

You just need good electric weight, damage multipliers and you're set. Even rakta dark dagger is good with influence

[modern vale]

Got it

[pastel temple]

As much as I love going back to influence from time to time after a long week, I still think it's too overused and too strong for its own good

[undone dust]

magislam literally just kills things off rip not letting influence proc, you'd need to use lavos for the forced elec from valence to even make use of it consistently

[rich glacier]

Ah I see

So it 1 shots

[modern vale]

So it's like Nataruk usually

[rich glacier]

Does it really 1 shot lvl cap?

[modern vale]

I don't think that's possible with the weapon alone

[undone dust]

most slams use exposure outside of a few (arca titron and jat kittag)

[pastel temple]

Even better cuz the radiation from rakta gets spread by influence so you really shouldn't be losing any shields

[rich glacier]

For the guy asking for suggestions I am pretty sure he doesn't 1 shot

[undone dust]

it needs a little buffing but considerably less than most weapons

[pastel temple]

Influence this slam that, ever tried fortification on a lifesteal melee paired with persistence to make virtually any warframe health tank to lvlcap?

[gritty wraith]

Can someone give me a hand with my nezha build?

[pastel temple]

Do you use his 4 augment

[gritty wraith]

yeah and Im trying to apply status using my kuva kohm but it just isnt doing enough damage

I tried going full heat on my kohm but maybe it doesnt do damage because I need to strip more armour?

[scenic echo]

I mean I get it

But secondary iradiate does turn the Sepulcrum into more of an AOE machine rather than a single target

I’ll be testing it and if it sucks I’ll go back to flare lol

[frozen pollen]

I need help to decide which is better

[gritty wraith]

Im no expert but I'd say the one on the left

[compact cypress]

prob left

also dont spend TOO much kuva on that riven

acceltra isnt exactly known for its good dispo

[frozen pollen]

Oh okay

Thanks

[old marsh]

dont spend kuva

[karmic badger]

99 bottles of kuva on the wall...

[unkempt rivet]

Is the Ack & Brunt good without its incarnon or is it like
Mandatory to use it?

[karmic badger]

Normal star chart? Sure, but uh.... Once you start getting to places like the zariman and sanctum? Nahhh

[unkempt rivet]

Oof ;-;
I really like the base design of the thing
We need more axe and shield styles

[eager charm]

@tulip wasp here's better pics of full hildryn build, this is rly high investment but extremely comfortable and deletes 99% of all content and doesn't rely on any specific weapons so suitable for EDA/ETA, but raksa will pump 600+ shields per second so great for bosses too
aura, molt augmented, exilus all completely flexible(adaptation + aero aura + aviator great for casual tankiness)
primary doesn't matter, i use burston prime with deadhead for deleting priority targets
secondary can be grimoire or velox to snapshot strength, duration, whatever else you want
melee okina incarnon for +30% movement speed since sprint speed doesn't apply
magnum force on balefire is just for -accuracy and can replace with hornet strike, blast+electric is just for primed mods and no faction resists both
zid-an uskos for tektolyst is nice, vazarin focus school is nice for team revives and panic mode where hildryn ends up with zero shields somehow

whups, forgot to say archon shards are completely flexible but one tau cast speed and one tau parkour velocity is my fave

[karmic badger]

Incarnons were made to make underpowered weapons viable

Not sure on what A&B have for incarnon perks, but you can just not... Activate the incarnon mode

[unkempt rivet]

True true
But tbh
i’m not exactly good at the challenges lmao
There’s a reason I use weapons with spread or AOE

[pulsar glade]

is it possible to have negative crit on a weapon to fully maximize its non crit damage?

[unkempt rivet]

Oh that’s a good point, I forgot the incarnon bonuses don’t only affect the transformed state

[old marsh]

Ye

[old marsh]

They do based on the evolutions

[formal glade]

is there a way to finish the forth mission for the magistar incarnon faster? the get 20 slam finsher

[fervent rapids]

Certain abilities have forced Knockdown procs on enemies

[eager charm]

if you mean felarx/phenmor/etc, only really with a -crit chance riven but it barely matters

[pulsar glade]

anything i should change? although this weapon is already pretty op since it carried my janus captain vor and apex effervon tank run

[karmic badger]

Fairly sure the generic melee incarnons have basic ahh challenges. Like A&B has. 1, complete a solo mission with it equipped. 2, activate the incarnon 6 times in a single mission. And 3, reach combo 10x 10 times

[unkempt rivet]

Ahhhh
The felarx was the first incarnon I evolved.
And I uh
Remember DESPISING that
Pretty sure I said “nope, never doing another incarnon again.”
…
Then I did the Onos incarnon a couple weeks later lmao

[pulsar glade]

yea specifically the laetum all tho it shreds the yellow crits still annoy me lol

[eager charm]

if you want a stronger laetum, overwhelming attrition + crit build is better

[karmic badger]

Oh yeah zariman and sanctum weapons have the hardest challenges. The ones you get from duviri are few and straight forward

[unkempt rivet]

Wait the Duviri weapons have incarnons? Like the Argo & veil? Syam? Those ones?

[karmic badger]

Nah, its the ones from the circuit

Actually, there is a heavy scythe from duviri that's also an incarnon

Iirc, its the one Achritis sells for isleweaver tokens

[pulsar glade]

hmmm will try this never tried crit laetum before

[crimson cedar]

the Thalys 🤓

[karmic badger]

🤓

[fervent rapids]

which is part of the Zariman weapon series oddly enough

[karmic badger]

Ehh, zariman and duviri are basically the same place

[fervent rapids]

...no

[karmic badger]

Yes

My source is that it came to me from a dream

[crimson cedar]

definitively no, but maybe #lore-discussion is the right place to this 😄

[fervent rapids]

The Zariman is an actual ship heavily tainted by the Void, the Duviri we go to is a Void-created replica of the kingdom of the same name from the fairytale book "Tales of Duviri"

[crimson cedar]

when/where is a nonsense with void powers

[glass moon]

is the vadarya prime better than the coda sporothrix

or as good

[wary forge]

It’s worse

[glass moon]

damn alr

what weapons work good with volt

got no clue on what i can use besides my sporothrix

[wary forge]

There’s a lot

Ang melee with influence is very good

[glass moon]

what non shotgun primaries are good

[wary forge]

There’s atleast 6 or 7

[glass moon]

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-sahur-67-67-meme-fortnite-emote-gif-13299458995536216312

[wary forge]

Like there’s to many to name

[glass moon]

gimme like the top 3 or whatever

[crimson cedar]

Phenmor, Trumna, Paris ( statstick for pets 😄 ), Torid cough, Vinquibus, Hema Coda, Ax-52, Sporothrix Coda, Basmu, Battacor

and more

[wary forge]

Vinquibus isn’t good

[crimson cedar]

skill issue

[wary forge]

Ok I guess

[crimson cedar]

does millions on a single headshot, works nicely for 99% of the game

[wary forge]

Wow there’s not like 50 other weapons that do that

[crimson cedar]

thats not the point

[viscid bane]

Is there a best hound weapon or it doesnt matter?

[glass moon]

would this be good on the phenmor for volt

[crimson cedar]

you can cap dmg with a mk1 braton, so

[crimson cedar]

too much viral weight

[glass moon]

do i just use the 60/60 mod for cold then

[crimson cedar]

maybe with Volt + shock trooper it's not a big deal

sadly you cant use the elec. Shield for the crit bonus

maybe for Volt, use a crit based weapon

[fierce lark]

you missed a 0

[spiral chasm]

looks fine to me imo. serration might be replaceable

[glass moon]

i like the sprint speed bonus

[spiral chasm]

maybe some fire rate

[fierce lark]

would drop serration for primed shred/vile accel

or keep serration and drop ele

ele probably better on volt specifically

[spiral chasm]

yeah u dont really do status dmg

[viscid bane]

Any hound knowers here? How does this look? last slot if for synth deconstruct

[fierce lark]

actually for volt you can drop elec mod

[glass moon]

should i just drop rifle elementalist for for serration then

[fierce lark]

shock trooper will give 300+% by itself

[spiral chasm]

eh u cant slot 2 serrations can u?

i forgot weapons limitations

[crimson cedar]

imagine heavy caliber

[fierce lark]

you can't slot 2 serrations no

you can slot heavy cal with it but gapt + deadhead is already 2 base dmg

[spiral chasm]

yeah sounds more than enough

[crimson cedar]

multiplicatives bonus are better than 2 additives bonuses

[spiral chasm]

honestly a fire rate angle

[fierce lark]

mag, serration & ele are flex slots usually, something should go for pshred/vile tho

on volt ele is good and stormbringer is flex

[spiral chasm]

only multi thats not there

[fierce lark]

between shock trooper & elec shield there's a decent amount of elec statuses going

[glass moon]

so do i just do this

[fierce lark]

yea that looks fine

[glass moon]

alr

[crimson cedar]

With deadhead arcane, my go-to build ( not specific to some Warframe, not specific to a faction too )

[glass moon]

if i aint using volt though

what do i drop for electric/heat mod

[fierce lark]

elementalist

[glass moon]

alr thanks yall

[signal solar]

Anyone have played tfd? I’m new to this game and I wonder is there a character like bunny that with easy build can carry you with clearing the enemies so fast and easy ?

[glass moon]

closest thing to her is volt element wise

and gauss since he has some gimmick with speed

[warm obsidian]

Garuda won't need Molt Reconstruct if she has Gloom?

[old marsh]

dont u dare

[fervent rapids]

Gloomruda spotted

[warm obsidian]

Add Gloom or remove Reconstruct

[quiet laurel]

add nourish

and keep reconstruct

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ew-wtf-no-disgusted-gif-11058683547538402693

[quiet laurel]

its her bis

[old marsh]

wrong. on so many levels

[quiet laurel]

why

[glass moon]

should i change anything here if i use it with volt

[old marsh]

u do realize that she can generate energy and to get "extra" dmg, u can literally use any other subsume for better results. nourish is a garbage subsume on Garuda

[quiet laurel]

is this rage bait or low iq

like I cant tell

[old marsh]

clearly your low IQ is reflecting from previous posts

[quiet laurel]

her 4 and 1 get buffed by nourish, 4 applies viral cause of nourish, her 3 regenerates your whole energy pool within 2 casts with 45% efficiency which is insanely fast
less casting time on abilities that dont damage enemies = significant KPM increase

its a dmg buff in 2 ways by that it applies viral and directly buffs damage

[old marsh]

this is youtube approved

[quiet laurel]

and then you have gloom which eats your whole subsume slot for what an arcane can do

[fierce lark]

the "universal weapon buff" part of nourish is an important thing to keep note of

same reason it's op on caliban even tho the energy is actually useless

[quiet laurel]

just hating on nourish for the sake of it without thinking about why its considered bis

peak warframe community gaming

[near vortex]

Tempest Barrage Garuda is gas

Nourish making the ball deal more damage and regen entire energy pool in 1 cast of 3 is nice but I like funnier subsumes personally

[fierce lark]

there is no reason to hate on nourish other than because it's popular, it's literally just good for everything in every scenario where you're not influencemaxxing

also being able to make your abilities apply viral is actually cool

[pale belfry]

Viral on oraxia 1st

[old marsh]

no hate towards nourish in general. his point was that its bis. which it isnt.

[quiet laurel]

name one subsume thats better

[near vortex]

It's kinda bis tbh

[quiet laurel]

with good arguments

[fierce lark]

idk there are a number of garuda authoritarians here that would agree with him on that one

this has been discussed

[pale belfry]

Garuda xata above everything

[old marsh]

literally the most used one. Roar. it literally works as a faction modifier

[near vortex]

I don't have a Garuda config with Nourish on because I run Garuda with funnier subsumes and don't mind casting 3 twice

[hexed lodge]

Nourish garuda is just the easier way to play her, Roar has the highest dmg output

[old marsh]

at length. and Nourish isnt bis

[near vortex]

It's Garuda
If you aren't one shotting everything already you're doing something wrong

[pale belfry]

Xata garuda

[fierce lark]

if roar 1shots enemies at lvlcap

and nourish 1shots enemies at lvlcap

roar is objectively worse

[pale belfry]

Oneshot which enemy

[fierce lark]

yes

[near vortex]

Breach Surge is funny because you jump into a group, cast surge and do 14f release 1 and everything dies

[near vortex]

All of them

[quiet laurel]

in the case of garuda its just a multiplicative dmg buff though, which nourish is too
only way it would be higher dps than nourish is if you cast her 4 in every enemy group and let the enemies die by the slash proc
and tbh if they need to die by the slash proc your 1 setup is just suboptimal
and you miss out on the other QoL nourish offers like passive viral application by taking damage, faster energy regen and viral proc application via 4

[pale belfry]

Technically its a lie

[near vortex]

I can't oneshot superboss vor

I can oneshot acolytes and level cap Thrax

[pale belfry]

Those things is weak asf

Try on necramech disruption level cap

[near vortex]

I am NOT going to level cap on Armatus dawg 🥀

[old marsh]

i forgot whats the hp value on those?

[pale belfry]

Mostly the DR mechanic

[near vortex]

Garuda can probably still one shot them tbh

[fierce lark]

lets go do some lvlcap alchemy brozer

[near vortex]

Garuda is very good at that

[fierce lark]

many merits

[quiet laurel]

lvl cap defection

[pale belfry]

You not even read the mechaniclol

[old marsh]

lvl cap ETA. Pablo make it happen

[pale belfry]

Eidolon level cap

[fierce lark]

idk what kind of dr or attenuation mechs even have anymore tbh

they were tanky and then attenuation changes happened and idk mesa kills them pretty fast now

[pale belfry]

[near vortex]

You can one shot them
I've done it with Zaw

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-noooooo-dream-sequence-gif-3498303690144489723

[near vortex]

Surely Garuda can do it too

[pale belfry]

Show me the video

[near vortex]

I have a screenshot

[old marsh]

pics or it didnt happen

[quiet laurel]

they still have the same type of dmg attenuation as before but the values have been significantly weakened

[fierce lark]

im down for some lvlcap pre-attenuation patch lephantis tbh

feature length film

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/the-weekend-smile-smiling-blinding-lights-gif-17444495

[pale belfry]

Joke on you, mesa is shit when dealing with then

[fierce lark]

mesa is great at dealing with mechs wut

[pale belfry]

So technically you guys know nothing about the game

[near vortex]

I hit this shit while messing around with friends on Armatus
Didn't go to cap but I'm pretty sure this would one shot them at cap regardless

[old marsh]

we r about to see Enervate Mesa builds in here when Heirloom drops.

[near vortex]

Funnily enough the only enemies I was damage capping on was the demos

[fierce lark]

idk every time i get mesa in eda and i aim at the funny robot it dies in like 2s

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-thats-bait-photoshop-gif-26646069

[pale belfry]

Doesnt prove anything

Try on level cap

[late ice]

How can i make my strun better?

[celest tendon]

Oh my the ETA lvl cap,now that is what will be a nightmare mode.
But if they make that we can use any Warframe I'm good for it.

[fierce lark]

i dont think attenuation scales with level lol

[near vortex]

Grab your Rabvee and try for yourself
Wrathful Advance Wisp platform

[pale belfry]

Once again you just proved you know nothing about the game

[fierce lark]

elec instead of heat, and some viral mods

strun is a prime candidate for cannonade

[versed harbor]

💀

[hexed lodge]

incarnon or incarnoff?

[old marsh]

||now guess which mods i was missing||

[late ice]

Incaroff

[versed harbor]

everyone chooses violence in this chat istg

[pale belfry]

People know nothing about the game and trying to be wise, lol

[fierce lark]

all of them? lmao

[celest tendon]

imagine you hit a lot of times and nothing impacts the enemy.

[quiet laurel]

just for clearing things up

necramechs have normal DR

[near vortex]

Make Dedicants great again

[old marsh]

this week would be hell for majority of frames lol. and i aint sure Hildryn can solo ETA lvl cap

[hexed lodge]

then remove Elementalist, agreed on adding viral+heat

[late ice]

How do i arrange the viral part?

[pale belfry]

https://youtu.be/9h1oH5ayabo?si=lOBWi02_isPg5bKv

[celest tendon]

I tried sevagoth it was nightmare in the gas damage in the hex mission.

[old marsh]

check top right screen and give me your response again.

[celest tendon]

had to use resistance

[pale belfry]

Idk how many time have to explain how necramech DR is different

[hexed lodge]

lmg, no shadow?

[pale belfry]

Just watch the video

[quiet laurel]

sir

this is 2 years old

[pale belfry]

The DR didnt change

You dont know the problem?

[hexed lodge]

even better cause they had harder attuenation then?

[old marsh]

so he lost both his testicles?

[pale belfry]

I did read since the patch

And DR still havent update

[old marsh]

didnt they get it back or something?

[pale belfry]

Wiki is free

[late ice]

Nvm i got it

[celest tendon]

So now we can deal high damage on level 9999 necramechs.

How

[fierce lark]

there is indeed no hotshot, flare, merciless, fortifier, outburst, gshot or any number of any things that would make you do damage

regulators only yellow critting is sus

[old marsh]

yes. that. DR didnt change for some of the enemies. only Att was removed

[old marsh]

closer

[celest tendon]

So what about fire from 5 archon shards and hot shot.

[old marsh]

uhh. different discussion.

[hexed lodge]

it's dystopia, they always find a way to do negative dmg shenanigans if DE missed a spot on their sphagetti code

[pale belfry]

Gallery
Patch History
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Hotfix 40.0.2 (2025-10-16)
Enemies that no longer have Damage Attenuation:

Demolishers (including Necramechs)
Rogue Necramechs (Bonewidow)
Update 40.0 (2025-10-15)

DAMAGE ATTENUATION CHANGES
Damage Attenuation is one of the tools we use to normalize the difficulty of boss-type enemies between groups of players, and its implementation has been a hot topic in the community for a while now. While meant to balance out high-powered builds, Attenuation could sometimes lead to paltry damage numbers — great to make an enemy hard to kill, but not necessarily fun for the player.

[old marsh]

anyways i cant recall the shards

[pale belfry]

Dont you ever check the patch?

[old marsh]

maybe 1 or 2 orange

[pale belfry]

They add the new mechanic and remove it

[quiet laurel]

are we arguing or agreeing

[pale belfry]

In like few days

[fierce lark]

bro your regulators are actually just not modded lol

[celest tendon]

I'm curious about the Mesa
Her regulators mixed with fire from archon shards and arcane hot shot with companions,how they deal damage mixed with nourish on level cap necramechs

[quiet laurel]

like I just posted that they had their DA removed

[pale belfry]

Necramech doesnt change anything

I think you had reading problem to able understand the patch

[old marsh]

i know. this is a really old clip. i am asking which mods am i missing

[quiet laurel]

plink

[pale belfry]

DR is different with DA

[fierce lark]

i knew it was an old clip because modern day mechs don't take 1k damage lmfao

fully unmodded regs would still hit harder than that

[pale belfry]

DR ≠ DA

[quiet laurel]

they still have some direct DR iirc but DA is gone from them

[fierce lark]

no corrosive/heat

[quiet laurel]

so no frame is good or bad against them

[pale belfry]

The video 2 years is about DR

[old marsh]

aah. good question. i never tried lvl cap Necramech. i have done lvl cap Demo & Thrax BUT never a Necramech so i got 0 idea.

[pale belfry]

Are you dumb or smt?

[quiet laurel]

cause its legit a straight cut from your damage, independent on how you deal that damage

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[fierce lark]

drascho you're trying to speak to someone yelling 'lalalalalalala' while wearing earplugs, not worth

[celest tendon]

I'm curious how the level 5000 necramech survives.

[quiet laurel]

mhm, so to get back to your initial comment about mesa being bad against them, how does that hold up

[pale belfry]

https://youtu.be/7ZgTCR6Jhco?si=Ctxr8YHGCas7rh7Z

This is what called fast mesa kill?

Its not even necramech level cap

[hexed lodge]

i'm lost atp... are we talking about Rogue nechs or Demolyst nechs? cause Rogue nechs still have DA (weak DA but it's there)

[pale belfry]

Watch the video

Necramech is a unit that unable armor strip and have cap dmg dealing

[near vortex]

demo

[pale belfry]

considering as the tankiest demolisher in the game

Even the video with min maxing setup

Its still slow afk

[quiet laurel]

this video was posted on april 2025, DA changes happened october 2025

[celest tendon]

So add 4 follies in disruption, how they would deal damages to necramechs.

[pale belfry]

They add DA and remove it

[pale belfry]

You had hard time to read?

[old marsh]

so real question is. how long we get to stare at Mesa's cake in her Heirloom when trying to kill lvl cap Necramech. i need details

[quiet laurel]

what does this even mean lmao

[pale belfry]

Thats mean you know nothing, lmao

[fierce lark]

(this is the official wf website patch notes)

[pale belfry]

You didnt play that patch? I guess yes

[fierce lark]

all necramechs have 0 attenuation as per DE themselves

[quiet laurel]

like, you post a video which was when DA was in the game for necramechs, then talk about mesa still being shit against them even though they dont have DA anymore

[old marsh]

we talking DR. not DA

[pale belfry]

People are dumv

[fierce lark]

responding to ruby on rogue mechs still having weak DA supposedly

[pale belfry]

DR ≠ DA

[quiet laurel]

DR legit doesnt matter for mesa specifically then

[pale belfry]

Once again you proved you know nothing about the game

[quiet laurel]

DA matters for mesa, DA would decrease mesas dps by a lot, but the necramechs dont have DA anymore so the argument of mesa being shit against them holds no value

[pale belfry]

Just ask the forum on warframe

They will answer how dumb you are

[old marsh]

ok. now tell me how long we get to stare at Mesa's cake in her Heirloom when trying to kill lvl cap Necramech. i need details. and no this is not ragebait or trolling. i really need to know

[hexed lodge]

bs! ||jk, ty||, i guess then Rogues have DR, cause they are tankier than Demonechs, not by a lot but still

[fierce lark]

your entire existence is ragebait ngl, this is impressive

[quiet laurel]

hours of gooning

[celest tendon]

By watching your crosshair of where you shoot.

[quiet laurel]

bros just throwing insults

[pale belfry]

You cant even prove anything but yapping

[old marsh]

this makes me happy

[pale belfry]

Whos ragebait here

[fierce lark]

neither can you, moron LMAO

[brittle sleet]

Three cheers for gooning! Hip hip!

[old marsh]

incorrect answer. i need time.

[pale belfry]

DR ≠ DA

[fierce lark]

you haven't "proved" anything, other than you can barely speak english

dumb prick

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[quiet laurel]

like the arguments you brought up were outdated and have no ground to stand on and when we call that out you call us dumb, this is another peak warframe community moment

[celest tendon]

if they add first person mode, I would be surprised that 90% of us would faint on the bullet jumps.

[pale belfry]

Post this thread on forum then?

[fierce lark]

motionsicknessframe

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cultic-cultic-chapter-one-cultic-game-boomer-shooter-jasozz-gif-2639507598533591570

[pale belfry]

Ask them how tanky the necramech disruption level cap is, and how fast mesa can take it down?

[celest tendon]

True xD the gun,melee,pistol would be wierd with abilities in hands it would be disaster.

[old marsh]

thats actually the frame from future. as i recall its part of 2039 update

[pale belfry]

One of the reason i dont really like to talk with cascade user, they kinda....

[celest tendon]

[pale belfry]

[quiet laurel]

sotru

they all toxic smh

hate those people

[pale belfry]

Why talking here

[old marsh]

but i am usually nice

[pale belfry]

Go post the thread on forum

Or you scare about the truth?

That people gonna tell you?

[quiet laurel]

am shivering in me boots rn actually

[brittle sleet]

Why can't you type

[quiet laurel]

WARFRAME REFERENCE 🗣️

[brittle sleet]

Mods kill this man for owning 6 copies of a bad arcane

[fierce lark]

lets go shoot some lvl 200 demolisher mechs and see how strong their DR is

[quiet laurel]

you can legit one shot eximus EDA ones with different health modifiers with a valk heavy attack lmao
and thats just raw damage

[pale belfry]

Try on cap

If you said that 200, i could handle it with a stug, lmao

[hexed lodge]

With Mesa or any frame is valid?

[old marsh]

did DE mention if the new incarnons r coming as a new weekly rotation or they will be spread out

[pale belfry]

Mesa vs necramech disruption level cap

[quiet laurel]

gonna do the math brb

[livid quartz]

Hi, What is better for torid incarnon primed shred or vile acceleration?

[brittle sleet]

No

[celest tendon]

In the new patch they will appear, maybr

[old marsh]

vile

[pale belfry]

Shred does not perform as you expected

[livid quartz]

okay thanks!

[celest tendon]

👀 wait I'm curious,how they will adjust incarnons rotation and old weapons stuff incarnons.

[pale belfry]

Expand the pool

[old marsh]

how many incarnons we getting?

coz rn we have 5 per week for 8 weeks.

so do math

[hexed lodge]

still 5

[old marsh]

so that means we getting a new week

[celest tendon]

Hm

9 Weeks then.

[old marsh]

more agony for new players lol

i am picking stug and obex in first rotation

[celest tendon]

the duviri experience will be a suffering table.

[pale belfry]

Time to slow down move on new game or focus on career

[violet silo]

always

[celest tendon]

And test it on level cap

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ew-wtf-no-disgusted-gif-11058683547538402693

lvl 1 Earth Exterminate

[celest tendon]

[old marsh]

i got standards

[violet silo]

simaris' bedroom

[karmic badger]

Lv 1 simulacrum with AI off

[wary forge]

They are gonna their own new rotation but when they get released most likely they just gonna be added to the current one

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-finally-a-worthy-opponent-our-battle-will-be-legendary-battle-fight-gif-24829111

anyways. serious talk. Flux or Tenet Flux. someone here mentioned Flux is better

[pale belfry]

Tenet better

[karmic badger]

I mean, progenitor bonus

[old marsh]

that would be the preferred choice but i think months ago i saw a convo where they mentioned there was a bug or something with regular Flux that made it better

[pale belfry]

WTS

Unrolled godroll

[pale belfry]

That bug is patched so long

[old marsh]

hmm. alr then. maybe i am just getting old. and the convo from yrs ago seems like months ago 🧓

[fierce lark]

damn, mesa takes almost a whole 3 seconds to kill lvlcap demo mechs, trash honestly

[old marsh]

wrong. more time is better. maybe 6 or 7 seconds would be ideal. i need to stare at that cake for that much long to fully enjoy it

[pale belfry]

🤡

[fierce lark]

if you swap outburst for fortifier it takes about 6s, time for cake

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[fierce lark]

unfortunately i don't see any way here to simulate mechs being immune to heat/corrosive status, so you have to run companion priming for gshot to do anything xd

[quiet laurel]

unplayable

[fierce lark]

oh they're not even immune to heat/cor, they just don't get armor stripped by it

[wary forge]

@gleaming vapor Mesa sucks

[viscid bane]

Any hound knowers?

[wary forge]

What’s there to know

[viscid bane]

Akaten vs Lacerten

or do they not matter?

[wary forge]

All of them have the same stats akaten is the because it’s the only one with all 3 ips

[gleaming vapor]

what

[wary forge]

Scroll up

[viscid bane]

Akaten has 2 like the rest of them

[gleaming vapor]

well youre working with a 0 status gshot

[fierce lark]

(it was sarcasm)

[wary forge]

Oh I thought it has 3

[fierce lark]

viral corrosive heat IPS

[viscid bane]

Lacerten is slash and impact, akaten is puncture and slash

[gleaming vapor]

i mean you could just prime with tazicor

[fierce lark]

all the hound claws have 2/3 ips mods

[wary forge]

Ig they just all the same then punc slash I think is the best combo

[gleaming vapor]

thats not unrealistic

[karmic badger]

Nah, slash and impact is better, you can put shattering impact for passive armor removal for bosses

[wary forge]

That’s cope

[karmic badger]

Yes

[gleaming vapor]

eh i like impact/punc

[viscid bane]

Also any Denial mods worth slotting?

[gleaming vapor]

slash priming kinda booty

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/so-much-fun-it's-a-crime-walter-nelson-minions-yuorki-yuorki1-gif-8369629548157395193

[quiet laurel]

so much yapping while you could just rev torid

[karmic badger]

Remember not to overrev your torids

[gleaming vapor]

rev is meta for like not dying

[fierce lark]

it's rly annoying to use this calc for mechs lol

[gleaming vapor]

thats about it

[quiet laurel]

wrong

[gleaming vapor]

he doesnt do much besides that

[fierce lark]

it can't simulate mechs being immune to armor reduc

[quiet laurel]

rev is meta for everything

[karmic badger]

I am the meta

[gleaming vapor]

i love when I get a rev in pt

[quiet laurel]

ez you cant die

[gleaming vapor]

I also cant get vex armor stacks

[quiet laurel]

since cyte is bis for pt cause of his elemental combos he can be quite squishy sometimes

[mighty flare]

Evasive and Reflex are optional

[fierce lark]

but yeah if you wanna like external heat prime for hotshot and statuses and use pure rad regs you can kill lvlcap demo mechs in like 5s or less

[gleaming vapor]

hes not

cycling resupplies takes too long

[fierce lark]

but mesa's bad btw

[mighty flare]

Not a knower

[fierce lark]

correct

[gleaming vapor]

pure rad regs

what are we cooking here bro

[karmic badger]

Okay, but assless chaps

[fierce lark]

lvlcap demolisher voidrig tech

[quiet laurel]

what else would you use

[mighty flare]

The mesa larp is crazy good

[gleaming vapor]

volt

[quiet laurel]

bad

[gleaming vapor]

why do you think every pt speedrun uses volt

[fierce lark]

(im sure you don't need rad to kill them but i got tired of trying to do shit with the calc)

[mighty flare]

Chroma Mirage Jade

Wisp

[quiet laurel]

suboptimal

[gleaming vapor]

more optimal than cyte

[mighty flare]

He’s baiting you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050078382018265178/1454397083413909630/ezgif-395a166e2e34663d.gif

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440505629549793290/1489085535598284932/kuvabert.gif

[gleaming vapor]

i can see that

its kinda fun tho

[quiet laurel]

I have more kuva so I am right

[fierce lark]

actually that was rly good ragebait, got me to waste a lot of time in a calc

[wary forge]

I could have sworn acaten had all 3

Maybe I’m just a burger tho idk

[fervent rapids]

AI I fear 👎

[quiet laurel]

-20 million tons of water

he is such a horrible person