builds-discussion

[old marsh]

Just check the builds online. They r all the same

Ye but he doesn’t have it

[versed harbor]

go get it shrug

[tacit storm]

alr

[old marsh]

Wish Livia’s gimmick was as good as Grigori

[tacit storm]

i have a tox grigori is that any good

[old marsh]

Build it for gas

[versed harbor]

cant rly knock livia tho its still the best 2 handed nikana in the game

[tacit storm]

okay

[old marsh]

Ye but the 2nd trait could have been cooler

[versed harbor]

so comfy tho

[wary forge]

Combo pause is so meh

[old marsh]

Not that. We talking about the 2nd trait. Like Griogori’s slide attack disc

[wary forge]

Oh ic

Thought u meant Livia pause

[livid pollen]

Out of the like 5 fist weapons which one is generally the best? Currently using the normal Furax.
-# yes I know Atlas is the best, but I want him to also have a standard fist weapon for cosplay purposes lol

I've heard a lot about Wraith Furax, is that one just the best?

[old marsh]

come back next month and we will tell u

[livid pollen]

What does that mean

[old marsh]

Obex is getting the Incarnon. so its possible that Prisma Obex becomes the strongest fist weapon

[livid pollen]

Oooh interesting

[old marsh]

but for now its tied between Furax Wraith Incarnon, Tekko Prime and Ruvox. difference isnt in the stats but rather how they r used with their perks

[livid pollen]

Ooh okay. Gonna look more into the perks then to see what matches the theme I'm going for. Thx m8!

[inner raptor]

I dont get why the ruvox incarnon have to nerf aspd

[old marsh]

no thanks needed. i take my payments in Ducats. for that info, i will be charging u 420 ducats. or u can pay me 69 plat. either works fine

[livid pollen]

Maybe if you show up to relay I can actually access next time I'll pay up

[old marsh]

i dont have to. it will be deducted from your account automatically.

[livid pollen]

[valid plaza]

Obex isn't fists

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/nathan-fillion-uhm-but-wait-gif-9301334

honestly never noticed the foot guards

[versed harbor]

furax wraith or ruvox basically, both are incarnons

furax is a bit more standard while ruvox uses its slam gimmick

[livid pollen]

Actually that's a good thing. Introduced my to sparing weapons and I found one that visually is exactly what I was looking for

[velvet pulsar]

The erra of sparring began with Coda Hirudo and will continue with Obex incarnon.

[old marsh]

damn. i completely skipped over Coda Hirudo. i havent used them in ages

[velvet pulsar]

Sparring also has slam in their stance combo.

[old marsh]

ye. Obex also has an augment for that.

[velvet pulsar]

Eh Obex is for ground finishers

[old marsh]

its nothing meta but i wanna see if one of the incarnon perks synergizes with it. like a slam pulls everyone and leaves them open to finishers. so u can easily get bunch of kills with just 1 finisher

[velvet pulsar]

And I guarantee you, once Obex incarnon arrives, DE will edit the description of Obex augment coz that "ground attacks" is misleading and people will start reporting that "I'm on the ground but my attacks aren't procing that mod even though I'm not using aerial attacks"

[old marsh]

hoping our boy brings Prisma version today. never bothered to buy it. now there is a good reason

[velvet pulsar]

I forgot that this is a Cuda mod, that excuse alone makes me want to use that mod.

Entropy is a good perk.

[old marsh]

ye. but question is, will be worth losing 1 mod space.

[opal leaf]

What does 100% shield Recharge mean in Fortitude?

Just Faster recharge? (in context, I am not an English major so I don't know what it means

[old marsh]

if it was exilus then sure

[old marsh]

double speed

[velvet pulsar]

One of the several fitting reasons why I want to use Synoid Gammacor on Frost.

[opal leaf]

So... The recharge be zoomin?

[old marsh]

100%

[old marsh]

now slot in fortitude and see this again

[opal leaf]

Hmmm would try

[old marsh]

generally this mod is preferred

[opal leaf]

After my break

[velvet pulsar]

Fortitude is not recommended for Catalysing Shields build BTW (IIRC)

[old marsh]

Fortitude is garbage

[opal leaf]

The knockdown with Sure Footed is good tho. Just giving myself a temporary 100% knockdown resistance

[old marsh]

Unairu

no PSF needed

[opal leaf]

Oh

Max rank poise only?

[old marsh]

just press 5 twice

[old marsh]

i starts at 20 i think

upgrades to 40s

[opal leaf]

Oh

[old marsh]

PSF has always been a garbage mod. half the time u switch back and forth between operator and WF once a minute anyways

like i have see people switching every 10 seconds to get a certain buff. BLEHGHHH, once a minute is more chill

[opal leaf]

Hmm...

[old marsh]

or just use circumvent OG is PSF

[opal leaf]

Nvm guess I don't need that for Limbo anyway

[velvet pulsar]

Limbo definitely should use circumvent

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah bc he rolls and shiz

What are the permanent steal stuff he has

[velvet pulsar]

Already rolls a lot and will strip enemy defenses including overguard

Limbo lacks defense strip & overguard strip will get rid of eximus issue.

[opal leaf]

True true

[balmy tiger]

Rolling Guard and Circumvent let you strategically exit the void with immunity/shield gating/Overguard and give yourself 2-3 seconds to do things then enter again for safety

[old marsh]

Limbo is better suited for Circumvent or Rolling Guard. he has shit survivability unless u keep going back and forth between his dimensions

[opal leaf]

And circumvent eliminate that problem bc roll is one of his needed movement

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-buscemi-big-daddy-pointing-this-guy-knows-gif-11859501

[opal leaf]

I was thinking the same of popping in and out the rift

[old marsh]

one toxin proc and u r dead. dont even have time to think

[velvet pulsar]

My only problem is that I keep forgetting to use the rolling package when I'm in a mission.

(not a limbo specific problem)

[balmy tiger]

Write it on the back of your hand so every time you dab into the Rift you remember you have Rolling Guard

[velvet pulsar]

Like when I'm in trouble my first instinct is to use transference now rather than rolling.

[balmy tiger]

Either work tbh

[velvet pulsar]

Consequences of becoming a vazarin main.

[balmy tiger]

If it works and doesn't cause problems then it's fine imo

[velvet pulsar]

I'd appreciate to have that layer of overguard.

[old marsh]

game is begging me to make it viral heat

[opal leaf]

I'll be honest

I never had a problem of getting hit From toxin

[velvet pulsar]

I have a theory

[old marsh]

yet. but u will

[velvet pulsar]

I think the riven rolls are more biased towards those stats on which people settle on

[opal leaf]

Guess getting ready is better than anything

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/explain-plan-theory-crazy-insane-gif-22079506

[velvet pulsar]

Coz I've been rolling for so long and yet for some reason Bubonico rivens rarely roll heat on them

[old marsh]

definitely edging me to go viral heat

altho i am not sure if i select right one, will i even have a shot to fire

ok. right looks better. i can stop

[inner raptor]

You know what this game needs? More cernos variants. The weapon family is severely under-represented.

[velvet pulsar]

Coda Cernos

[stable rapids]

do someone know a good build for excalibur umbra end game ?

[safe sandal]

What’s a quick way to build up melee crescendo

[velvet pulsar]

Vazarin 2nd ability

And then use ground finisher on the pile of bodies

[safe sandal]

Thanks

[old marsh]

i hate in Arsenal u cant see your frame like how u can in Navigation. looks better coming from the right side instead of center

[stable rapids]

isn't nourish better tho ?

[old marsh]

actually this feels better. been a while since i modded him

[old marsh]

i do have a build for it. imo it doesnt really matter. u will clear ETA content with ease

u can use the same exact build. just replace augur message for augur reach

[stable rapids]

why not use arcane hot shot?

and use a companion to activate it ?

[stable rapids]

yeah for sure but i try to optimize it 🙂

[old marsh]

needs priming. so its upto u

ORRR Null Star

behold. NovaKong HotShot

[stable rapids]

did not think about that xD

[old marsh]

u get free DR as well as Hotshot priming. its just an overall chill subsume. and u can offload viral priming to companion OR mod it on your melee

[stable rapids]

yeah but also i need to make a free slot for neutron star which i don't like

[old marsh]

that augur mod is flex

[stable rapids]

yeah but i play with furious javelin too xD

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ew-wtf-no-disgusted-gif-11058683547538402693

[stable rapids]

rly ?

[old marsh]

hate that augment. too dependent on tilesets

on flat ones, great

on uneven ones, blegh. u barely hit 2 enemies at times

[stable rapids]

yeah true

also can u level cap with only umbra mod ? for durability

[old marsh]

never tried

i took him to ETA the same day that mode was added. barely had any issues with survivability

thats usually my target builds r for

[stable rapids]

yeah ok i think might try with neutron it looks fun

also for the blade waht do u think about going for a heavy build with tennokai ?

[viscid bane]

Is Double tap+Cannonade+Merciless+Gaptitude overkill for base dmg on Laron?

They are all multi if I understood it correctly

[charred gale]

cannonade is additive to meciless

i wouldnt bother with double tap tho its pretty annoying to proc

oh and gaptitude is only multi on direct hits

[opal leaf]

No

If only Tri umbral? You'll get one shot

[viscid bane]

I was going for them anyway

[opal leaf]

Dr is very hard to maintain in Lvl Cap

[old marsh]

discipline's merit. truth's flame is cool but u will have issues against one shotting eximus and harder targets. which results in truth's flame cutting your armor in half

truth's flame is better for heavy attack focused builds

basically u get tennokai once and u just start spamming it over and over

[viscid bane]

Should I replace it with something like hammer shot then?

would also make it be able to take advantge of the fire rate bond

[charred gale]

yeah id do that

[charred gale]

yeah i much prefer a fast firing latron

more fun imo

[viscid bane]

Still not sure what elements to go for though

[rich glacier]

Electric for dot as much as possible

[charred gale]

just modding viral should be fine

it has built in heat for the strip

[viscid bane]

Also flensing spikes vs critical parallel for evo ?

[charred gale]

i think flensing spikes is technically better but i like more red crits

[viscid bane]

you're using galv scope for those?

[charred gale]

nah

[viscid bane]

Then how? I only get 138 cc with crit delay

[charred gale]

i think i have a crit riven

wait no it doesnt have crit

#gameplay-discussion message

[viscid bane]

ah nvm I was looking at incarnoff stats

Incarnon has 204%

[hard sequoia]

In which scenario would nourish be better than xatas whisper on titania?

[charred gale]

ok yeah that makes sense

[charred gale]

when you’re not using blast

i dont see a reason to not use blast tho

[valid plaza]

Anyone know how to use Coda Hirudo best?

I can't seem to hit the correct balance of multipliers of crit, status, and total damage.

[safe sandal]

Final product

Hopefully this can go lvl cap

[quiet laurel]

def switch crescendo for exposure

[viscid bane]

In vast majority of the cases slopfluence is the best build

[valid plaza]

retch

[viscid bane]

Also raw dmg variant

[tough beacon]

As much as I dislike slam builds because every sweaty player in Asia server plays it and they quit on you if you ever so much out damage them as slam Magistar Wukong they are fun

[viscid bane]

I hear so many horror stories about asian servers

[tough beacon]

They are true

[valid plaza]

Sibear incarnon is getting sidelined to magistar

[tough beacon]

Sadly there are no SEA servers for Warframe, would love to play on a public lobby that isn't just 3 people with Magistar Slam Wukong where they Alt F4 since you play Saryn with Latron Incarnon

[viscid bane]

I'd honestly just deal with huge ping on other servers at this point

[valid plaza]

EU servers aren't too bad, in my experience. 150ms max with rare spicy 300-400ms

[tough beacon]

Funnily I find NA servers better with ping since I live in Southeast Asia

[valid plaza]

Same, but I get 300 constants in NA servers

[old marsh]

imagine thinking Warframe's netcode is server based instead of p2p

[tough beacon]

I mean I know it is P2P and it just matches you with people around that region

But for the most part I sometimes rather suffer the ping than play with people near asia P2P since you always get Host Migration'd if you as much outdamage a player here and they are the host of the session

[old marsh]

only if u limit your ping to 400 or less. try removing the limit, u would be surprised on how many players you can get matched up with. had several encounters with players that are on the opposite end of the globe.

[tough beacon]

I already have it set to No Limit

The desync is crazy but it can also be fun

[old marsh]

as for out damaging, no idea. never had those experiences. but i do ocassionally get disconnected because I have Strict NAT Type

which lot of people do across the globe. there isnt anything that can be done about it.

only a host with Open/Moderate NAT type can securely hold a connection

if u have strict NAT Type, it will last 20 minutes approx

maybe less at times

[opal leaf]

I never understand this Strict NAT

What do you mean by that because it sometimes been the reason why I ant trade or if it says the players are "Not Online"

Unless it's a different one

[elfin sluice]

there is no way to guarantee being host for public sessions outside of railjack, is there?

[old marsh]

p2p connectivity is restricted. u can read it up online

[opal leaf]

Oh aight let me go there

[tough beacon]

I do not get Strict NAT tbh, but it is common to have a SlamKong player quit on you even in Archimedea out of all places if you ever out damage them. Now imagine that in a Public Belly of The Beast lobb

[digital stratus]

i think for anything on the star chart that doesn’t currently have something else happening on it (arbitration/nightmare/kuva flood/invasion) you can double click the node to guarantee starting a fresh instance on it

[tough beacon]

Like, the only toxic server in WF is Asia region lol

[digital stratus]

which should make you the host

[elfin sluice]

why must folks like them care so much about such worthless numbers?

[elfin sluice]

ty

[tough beacon]

Ego stroking I guess, I can play Belly solo but I do not have the mental bandwidth to fly around the map like a spider monkey

[old marsh]

again, not talking about Asian players. i am talking about players leaving in general. it just happens. feel free to read up on NAT Types and how it affects p2p based games

[tough beacon]

Which apparently these players do but they only collect sister beacons and then just start slamming

[tough beacon]

I already know that, and no, I wish it was just bad internet, I literally have players quit once you start out damaging them

[old marsh]

eh. dmg calcs r busted anyways. its host dependent. those stats mean pretty much nothing

[tough beacon]

I know, but it somehow bruises egos and people leave which is annoying as hell

[old marsh]

this is what u get when u login with a Strict NAT

U also cannot change UPnP if your ISP has that restricted

[opal leaf]

Huh

What activate this? Guess my problem is quite different

[old marsh]

which also means that u can do nothing lol

[tough beacon]

I rarely get that tbh, for the most part I am good just need to restart the PC

Like I said, it is not even a P2P issue just a region and player issue

[old marsh]

me doing 1% dmg while getting half the kills.

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[old marsh]

depends on your ISP. if u purchase a static IP, u can manually change everything to Open NAT.

but i highly advise against it. u basically have no protection

[tough beacon]

me just sitting at the elevator and pressing 1 and 2 on Saryn the whole lobby

[old marsh]

get Moderate NAT from ISP. much better. u will have ocassional issues connecting with other players but its a better compromise

[acoustic geyser]

would this be a agood build for kompressa

[valid plaza]

You could skip target cracker if you're going ennervate, actually, no?
Because you're missing out on GalvShot

Wait, actually, I'm seeing you went Primed Radiation, so your goal here is max damage per shot

My bad, I thought target cracker was pistol gambit

[marble marten]

Opinions on Furis incarnon?

[valid plaza]

Le goat.

My secondary of choice when boss killing

[tough beacon]

It is like a better Ignis

[opal leaf]

Literally a Dps Demon

Second to Dual toxo in terms of overalls

[valid plaza]

Good build. But do go ahead and see how well your SP simulacrum enemies fare

[opal leaf]

Ignis wraith? Furis Incarnon? Absolutely

[marble marten]

When will you learn... Lol

[tough beacon]

Yep, basically a cracked out version of the Ignis Wraith but you can also throw your Glave with it lol

[acoustic geyser]

I dont have it yet 😭 hopefully tommorow or the day after

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-madebynami-cat-think-car-think-cat-silly-gif-10256431613308407309

[acoustic geyser]

too lazy to grind standings

[opal leaf]

That's a weird claim hahhaa

[hexed lodge]

id swap convulsion to Jolt if you have it instead for better heat weighting

[valid plaza]

Me who never primes the enemy before attempting kill shots.

[marble marten]

Anyway... I'll go get the furis lol

[acoustic geyser]

ok ty i'll try it

[tough beacon]

As someone who enjoys Saryn, you are the primer

[valid plaza]

You sure? The damage is all crit and raw. Seems like that's the goal.

[marble marten]

Pox is funny, no joke lol

[hexed lodge]

Crits also boost status damage from heat

[tough beacon]

my builds being hilariously questionable

[valid plaza]

As someone with Solid Snake(my Panzer Vulpaphyla) and Tutankhamun(my Medjay Predasite)—

Priming isn't my concern

[opal leaf]

Try it, it's fun going brrt brrt on their tung tungs

why did I say that

[valid plaza]

Speaking of companions, I wish I could put the Retriever mods on robotics.

[opal leaf]

What about hounds?

[valid plaza]

Robotics is blanket term for any non-living companion

[tough beacon]

Imagine it on Oxylus

Which is probably why Retriever is not a companion mod lul

[opal leaf]

I see

[hexed lodge]

I think he is asking if you can equip Retriever in Hounds

[opal leaf]

But yeah

[opal leaf]

Can you?

[hexed lodge]

nope

[opal leaf]

Hey Rubh

I'm committing

On Maining Seva and Limbo hahaha

[valid plaza]

Made a hacker moa (named Remote Parazon)

No retriever. No set mods

[hexed lodge]

godspeed my tenno

[valid plaza]

Good for you.

My friends are flabbergasted that I don't burn out

[hexed lodge]

two very complex wfs

[opal leaf]

Two of the most complex frame

I am Maining them

[valid plaza]

Me who just claimed Temple and Lavos(P) and trying them out

[tough beacon]

What if I be boring and become an Octavia main

[valid plaza]

What burnout? Shits fun and new every time

[opal leaf]

Eh it's fine

[valid plaza]

I can't really get Impetus rolling on Lavos like I do with Koumei. I'd rather just do MoltAug.

[opal leaf]

If you wsnt to be boring, play Rev

[formal glade]

what are the good aoe primary?

[rich glacier]

Strun

[opal leaf]

Trumna Prime
Torid Incarnoff
Fulmin Prime (semi)
Kuva Ogris
Kuva Zarr
Kuva Brahmma
Strun incarnon
Boar incarnon

[formal glade]

i can get the kuva so which one should i get?

[opal leaf]

Ogris or Zarr

Depends on the two, both are AOE primaries

[inner raptor]

fulmin semi aoe size is just 1 meter wide but like decently long iirc

dont bother for aoe imo

[opal leaf]

Fair point

More like a one shot one dead gun

[valid plaza]

AOE to me means any weapon that can do gas or blast with sufficient viability.

[velvet pulsar]

Kuva Tonkor

[opal leaf]

Ohhh yes that one

[valid plaza]

In my case, my weapon of choice is Tenet Tetra with innate cold and my riven with heat. The rest is classic damage, crit, aptitude, shred.

[velvet pulsar]

Does the riven have -mag cap?

[valid plaza]

Read em and weep

[velvet pulsar]

Oof

Negative mag cap can effectively double the alt fires amount

[velvet pulsar]

Do u use anything in the exilus?

Maybe the projectile speed or the bounce augments?

This works for some reason:

[velvet pulsar]

Likely also works on the AoE despite what it says.

[opal leaf]

Would this work on Burston? Inca mode?

[valid plaza]

The bounce is fun, and is quite great at extra dps. But because I use shred, punch through gets weird with bounce added. So no. But I haven't actually tried it.

[velvet pulsar]

Tested and works wonderfully

[opal leaf]

Oh nice

[valid plaza]

I use speed for now, tho. Projectile speed is QoL, but I think I'll use bounce sometime next time

[hexed lodge]

iirc, this also works on Misc damage

[velvet pulsar]

I can't think of anything to make use?

Is there any misc AoE damage?

[valid plaza]

Gas prox?

[velvet pulsar]

From my testing, blast or gas didn't pick the orbs.

Maybe the lingering gas cloud would, but that'd be very rare coz I don't build many ranged weapons with gas

[valid plaza]

Gas works best on big single shot weapons. Because the cloud damage is proportional to the damage that procced it.

I use it on Nataruk, Angstrum, and Furax. Also Baruuk exalted, and Sibear too.

Also, something I learned only yesterday.

The gas damage is headshot damage.

Meaning it will work with Evade

[velvet pulsar]

I probably use Gas on Coda Mire

[formal glade]

if i get kuva zarr then waht bonus should i get for it?

[grave vessel]

Kuva nukor

[formal glade]

fym kuva nukor?

[hexed lodge]

magnetic or heat, you can easily change it later anyways

[grave vessel]

Viral and corrosive would be good

[hexed lodge]

i think he meant the progenitor bonus

[formal glade]

how do i change it?

[silk sphinx]

I saved my Twin Kuva Stubbas from having impact status with an elemental vice. Gotta get another so I can rescue my Tenet Glaxion.

[grave vessel]

You have to max out the weapon

[velvet pulsar]

2 ways

[silk sphinx]

An elemental vice, they are sold by Elenore in 1999 for 50k Hex standing.

[hexed lodge]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Elemental_Vice
You can get it from spoilers for 1999 ||Eleanor's store or ETA||

[velvet pulsar]

Either get another of the same gun but with the element you want, or a later game item called elemental vice

[formal glade]

oh ok

i already done most quest and just hit mr15 am good

[velvet pulsar]

It looks like Orb boss in Vallis

[grave vessel]

Are you go to your actions when you go to put a forma in you see something down below that

[velvet pulsar]

Glaxion absolutely deserved an elemental vice because of how many flexible builds it can have

[silk sphinx]

I got mine with Gauss so it has impact on it

[formal glade]

is magent good enought for my kuva nukor?

[silk sphinx]

I need to fix that

[opal leaf]

Yes

[velvet pulsar]

Changing element anytime on DEmand is very good for Tenet Glaxion

[hexed lodge]

if only we could have a different progenitor element for each loadout

[velvet pulsar]

That's like asking for auto faction mod switch.

[hexed lodge]

fk it, universal faction damage mod added, make roar irrelevant
||jk, ik it won't happen||

[velvet pulsar]

Make weird justifications and u may gaslight DE into doing so:
We got a Universal Gemini Emote, same way give us a Universal Faction Mod!

[valid plaza]

I'm partial to faction-specific arcanes

[scarlet cobalt]

Whats a good titania prime build to get through level cap enemies?

[vestal temple]

glorping cat 43

[tight jetty]

Can acceltra proc primary crux?

[valid plaza]

void main(void){
unsigned int primary_crux;
display("Can it headshot?");

input str response;
if (response == yes)
{
primary_crux = 1;
else
primary_crux = 0;
}
}

[sly island]

Should I change something on my build?

[old marsh]

your fashion

rest is fine

[velvet pulsar]

public static void main;
hey script kiddo

[vestal temple]

fashion aint even that bad

[opal leaf]

Only if you aim heads

Then ye

[tight jetty]

Thank you

[pastel temple]

Please don't jumpscare me with java again

[night laurel]

i flinched like a kicked dog

[inner raptor]

how do you ramp up ocucor. thing tickles at 0 stacks

[old marsh]

pray to god

[dense terrace]

funkjy ass underforma off meta build

[brittle pelican]

yo is this a good cedo build

[brittle pelican]

im gonna change shotgun savvy for galvanized savvy

[dense terrace]

thoughts? I'm using it with Gauss Prime

[tacit storm]

i need a good cedo build too

[spark basin]

any really broken burst weapon builds?

[rapid ledge]

felarx mag dump

[solar reef]

the best burst weapons in the game are actually just automatic weapons

[brave thunder]

Can i come swinging with a hot take? The best build for Excalibur is not chromatic blade, influence, and purple shards for electric, but instead, max crit dmg, Furious javelin, and purple shards for crit dmg

[frigid root]

Sp nikana prime builds?

[solar reef]

this isnt a hot take this is just a weird take
exalted blade excal builds still use purple crit shards and javelin

you dont use purple electricity shards on him, no clue who told you that

you basically just said “the best build for excalibur isnt the thing everyone uses, its HALF of the thing that everyone uses”

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blast-off-launch-cat-jumping-into-camera-gif-6639037559618288527

nobody is using those

[brave thunder]

a lot of people use the top option instead of the third

[modern vale]

Good afternoon I got a question
Does Blood Rush and Weepings Wounds work on Exalted Blade?

[solar reef]

ive literally never seen ANYBODY use those on excal

[brave thunder]

yes!

[brave thunder]

and the waves build combo as well

[violet silo]

that's not a thing

[modern vale]

Oh, thank you
I was checking the wiki and it was saying that those mods cannot be equipped on it... So I was like, wtf? Xd

[solar reef]

which wiki

[dire terrace]

yo Malz!

[brave thunder]

Definitely is, chromtatic blade built into full electricity with melee influence and the purple shards for ability dmg on electrified enemies, its prob the most common excal build

[modern vale]

Checking a post on Reddit through Chrome

[warm obsidian]

Any Chroma and/or Atlas builds?

[solar reef]

once again, i’ve literally never seen anybody use this

[cobalt kite]

Omg baro is selling so many smite mods this week

[violet silo]

no, it isn't, because that doesn't even work on exalted weapons.

[dire terrace]

also @solar reef can i ask smth

[modern vale]

I don't know much, but Exalted Blade is channeled, right? So you would have to deactivate your Exalted Blade and activate it again to get the bonus.
Or does it just stack infinitely

[solar reef]

this is also true

[dire terrace]

im trna do a cedo build and I want an like recomendation for improvement.

[crisp pine]

does anyone have good wisp build i can give to a new player as I what I have is serving a specific need and playstyle and has more bs on it?

[novel bear]

If ability damage worked for excal, people would be using them, because they would be better than cd
But ability damage doesn’t work

[solar reef]

just follow the ninjase build man idk

bro really just said “hot take” for the sake of it

[violet silo]

really dont know where that info came from but double check those builds

they might be shit

[brave thunder]

https://youtu.be/hDAA1qAucDQ?si=QtqCKZNV5HNWkfX3 its all over youtube too of people doing this

[novel bear]

Well there’s your problem

Youtube is an awful source

[brave thunder]

Thats exactly the point im trying to make

[novel bear]

That’s not a hot take though

[brave thunder]

but alot of people ive met rely on yt tutorials

[amber fox]

So whats a good nuke build for uriel

[solar reef]

kyaii uses an expertise ash

[limpid talon]

the only value i really see of purple shards on excal is the crit damage boost but getting the most out of that would require using prime flow wouldnt it?

[solar reef]

surely we arent taking everything he says as truth

[brave thunder]

This is exactly what i run

[solar reef]

this is exactly want 90% of excal players run

your hot take is ice cold

[brave thunder]

Maybe to this chat, but in the wild i see so many excal players just leaving dmg on the table

[solar reef]

where in the wild

[dire terrace]

so is this good? @solar reef

[solar reef]

dog just follow the ninjase build im not deep analyzing your set up

if you have questions hit up Underframe for calcs

[dire terrace]

which one has it.,

[deep grotto]

Oh so you don’t even know what the Ninjase build looks like? 😭

[brave thunder]

Just pub games, it happens all the time. People see my excal and they always want opinions on their build, and its always the same thing

[solar reef]

schlawg randoms in pubs are NOT doing all that
they arent deep diving on shards

you are such a larper

[late ice]

New to chroma, what kind of frame is he? A frame that uses ability to deal dmg or a weapon platform?

[solar reef]

The most popular builders on both youtube and overframe all just say “use purple cd shards”

kyaii is like the only exception because he HAS to be weird

[deep grotto]

Weapon platform iirc
He also has augs that help support tge team too

But people usually just farm credits

[solar reef]

hes a weapons platformer, but a really underwhelming one

[late ice]

Can yall suggest a build for me for credit farming?

[deep grotto]

There’s no build really

[late ice]

Crap

[deep grotto]

Credit farming is just swap to electric and use his 4

[solar reef]

theres no building involved

[brave thunder]

I promise you it happens more often than you might think, thats why i brought it up in the first place

[solar reef]

no building has any effect on his credit farming

[amber fox]

Is there a build for every frame to be able to solo steel path?

[solar reef]

yes

[brave thunder]

yes

[amber fox]

Including weapons?

[brave thunder]

yes

[solar reef]

i mean yeah but lots if weapons will still just suck

[deep grotto]

When it comes to weapons you kind of just use the standard setup

[amber fox]

Cause there is several weapons and frames i wanna use cause i just like using them but the damage is dog shit

[novel bear]

What frames?

[deep grotto]

Building time

[solar reef]

there is no frame that can’t be used in steel path

[fierce lark]

if you build correctly, it'll be hard to find a weapon that doesn't clear at least sp star chart, and the ones that don't will likely be because of ammo constraints

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/so-much-fun-it's-a-crime-walter-nelson-minions-yuorki-yuorki1-gif-8369629548157395193

[late ice]

So apparently ive built him using the energy battery build. Can it be better?

[solar reef]

you dont need flow AND battery

guardian armor is pretty bleh

[deep grotto]

I don’t think malz is going to believe you until you prove it

Wh

DISCORD

[solar reef]

also quick thinking is just weird as a whole

[fierce lark]

also lol imagine thinking more than like 2% of people in pubs give a shit about your builds

[deep grotto]

I replied to this message smh

[solar reef]

exactly like if you arent map clearing at comical amounts nobody is asking

[amber fox]

Dagath, uriel, cyte-09, excaliber umbra, follie, gyre prime, ivara, jade, mirage, nekros, nezha, nyx, octavia, oraxia, qorvex, saryn, sevagoth prime, trinity, voruna prime, wukong, and zephyr

[brave thunder]

Makes sense, i just have to get into another lobby w an excal player and itll happen

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gabagool-shon-son-im-crine-james-gandolfini-sopranos-gif-5632752440652965130

[amber fox]

Guess im not doing steel path at all

[deep grotto]

Bro’s got damn near everyone

[fierce lark]

the only time in my entire life i can recall someone asking about something i was running was when someone asked about my lex 2tapping acolytes lol

[solar reef]

and even then its usually just “hey ive never played X character, how do I…”

[amber fox]

22 frames i think

[solar reef]

ive asked a few people about lile how stuff works but i’ve only seen build advice things once or twice in chats

[deep grotto]

Probably should narrow it down to the one you like the most first

[fierce lark]

there is an astronomically low portion of the playerbase that care about what their build is doing beyond what they cooked/looked up, and an even smaller percentage of those people are social enough to actually speak to another player in match

[solar reef]

like the other day i level capped with a mesa and was curious about how they chose to survive/gate since I dont know mesa ball

[sharp portal]

A friend made this build and said is truly broken for level cap he said

[amber fox]

i want them all to solo every single mission flawlessly, including weapons

[solar reef]

i mean yeah thats the generic roar sevagoth build

[fierce lark]

sevagoth still runs energize right like that's not a meme

[amber fox]

Cause I'm sick and tired of waiting for people to show up in missions, so i wanna solo

[sharp portal]

Stills broken tho

[solar reef]

within reason yeah
i wouldnt say broken

[sharp portal]

Whats the best Hellminth skill btw

[fierce lark]

also lol

[solar reef]

for sevagoth? Roar no doubt

[sharp portal]

In general 🥶

[fierce lark]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jojo-ova-dio-ova--k01KRP7C4DWY61GG9PHFS5DZ0A9

[solar reef]

probably nourish or roar but thats way too vague

[amber fox]

I just want to do the damage and be able to tank heavily with the warframes i have

[brave thunder]

It only really happens w excal players, since im running prime and finish matches with 60-70% of the teams total dmg

[novel bear]

Dagath, uriel, cyte, gyre, mirage, nezha, oraxia, saryn, voruna, and zephyr can all boost weapons by a lot

[fierce lark]

please tell me saryn's 2 in spanish is just called "Muda"

[solar reef]

this is such a golden experience

[deep grotto]

Again we need somewhere to start

[novel bear]

Primed redirection is standard?

[deep grotto]

which do you like the most?

[fierce lark]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jojo-bizarre-adventure-giorno--k01KRP7EWWVQJKY0GBFENEG4S12

[solar reef]

missed that

[amber fox]

I like dagath the most

[solar reef]

I was just looking for double augment + 255% strength + roar

[deep grotto]

“Voruna prime addict”
Dagath’s a solid place to start though

To begin
She is a weapon platformer

[solar reef]

those who grift

[amber fox]

Okay

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/bjorn-dancing-cow-peggle-gif-15523428738766084410

[sharp portal]

Great for general stuff, obviously if your frame survival stats are most shield

[amber fox]

Voruna is hot thats why i also love her

[deep grotto]

I can’t remember if she innately applies viral or simply boosts it

[solar reef]

its not really doing anything for survival

enemies still just erase it

[novel bear]

Dagath is one of the worse weapon platforms in that list
She’s good, but not as good as cyte or mirage

[solar reef]

unless you’re tickling around in base path

[amber fox]

Time to change things huh

[sharp portal]

Just in level cap or something

[solar reef]

in most of steel path

i’d swap it for cata shields

[novel bear]

Primed redirection does nothing at level cap

[sharp portal]

Do you do level cap in steelpath or something?

[solar reef]

obviously

[sharp portal]

🐴

[solar reef]

why would i do it in base chart

[amber fox]

I want mathematically and chemically enhanced that i can use builds to make my weapons and frames so powerful it will make the enemies start shitting bricks when they see me

[sharp portal]

Most of times survival stats are great, shield gate is only strictly neccesary if you're farming for too long

[solar reef]

the ONLY reason you’d run redirection is for gating numbers but thats entirely unecessary since cata shields does that but better

[amber fox]

And i still have no archon mods

Cause i refuse to do stealth

[novel bear]

Voruna makes any melee good, even without mods

[solar reef]

Shes the best melee platformer in the game

[amber fox]

I just want to rip apart the narmer piece by agonizing piece

[solar reef]

shards are after thoughts

[amber fox]

She does?

[novel bear]

Read her abilities

[amber fox]

My melee damage is so shit

[solar reef]

this is a big fat build issue

[novel bear]

Her best buffs aren’t even strength dependent

What melee are you using

[sharp portal]

Is that good?

Ok lets be serious, whats the "best" Melee frame?

[fierce lark]

idk what redirection is supposed to be doing at lvlcap, enemy bullets do damage well into the millions, your shield is going to die in 1 shot no matter how big it is

[amber fox]

Its thousands but i want certain weapons to absolutely slice anything that is not nailed down

[novel bear]

Tough competition between voruna, kullervo, and volt

[solar reef]

every melee does millions with voruna

[hexed lodge]

Nope, this ain't peak...
No shield-gate, no breakpoint (unless you want to swing every 20s), Energize alone won't be enough

[amber fox]

THEY DO?

[solar reef]

my top 3 would be Voruna, Saryn, then Volt

[amber fox]

WHAT?

[solar reef]

yes, if not you really need to rebuild

[novel bear]

Post melee build please

[solar reef]

most melee builds can do millions without voruna’s help now with tennokai

[fierce lark]

roar saryn probably does more melee damage than anything else

if they live longer than 1s

[sharp portal]

He usually plays level cal so I trust him

[sharp portal]

Volt?

[solar reef]

those who ichor

[fierce lark]

or literally anything

[solar reef]

shock trooper

[fierce lark]

reminder lash number is 2x on melees and triple dips roar

[sharp portal]

Told me he uses it for general stuff, for levelcap just changes ot for other thing

[solar reef]

it also takes into account any moded tox, including that combined into viral/corro/gas

[sharp portal]

Holy

[hexed lodge]

I have gone to levelcap with 3 different (helminth) sevagoth builds too sooo...
I mean yea the build can work, it's just not optimal unless you want to bend backwards to make it work

[solar reef]

• it does second instances of damage with certain interactions

Toxic Lash is so gross

[fierce lark]

primed fever dream

[amber fox]

This is what i have rn

On voruna prime

[sharp portal]

The power of friendship I guess

[solar reef]

tri umbral victim 🥀

[fierce lark]

trumbral adrenaline feels so bad

[amber fox]

Im guessing its not that good

[fierce lark]

triumbral is good on like 2 frames

[sharp portal]

Umbral Intensify its a great option, Vitality as well but not always

[solar reef]

armor/health do nothing, neither does adrenaline, if you arent building persistence

[sharp portal]

Wich ones?

[fierce lark]

like

chroma and lavos lmao

[sharp portal]

Enough to me

[amber fox]

I don't even have the mods for this

[solar reef]

i’m quite a fan of it on Grendel

[hexed lodge]

triumbal is not good enough ona warframe with 265 base armor

[solar reef]

I just wish they’d fix it

[fierce lark]

it's good on grendel if you don't want to use shards to hit 700 armor

[solar reef]

i dont have any shards and i hit 700

[amber fox]

Do i need to get off my ass and suffer a stealth mission i dont like doing?

[solar reef]

oh i missread

[fierce lark]

i dont even know if chroma still cares about triumbral tbh, i just know the old PT build used it

[solar reef]

its still vastly preferred afaik

[amber fox]

So, dont use the umbra mods

[solar reef]

Lavos is the only frame that imo needs it

[solar reef]

the whole build is jank

its not just tri umbral

[amber fox]

Probably cause i cant find the right ones

[solar reef]

are you wanting to build for 4 spam or Melee

[fierce lark]

continuity, intensify and ulfrun's endurance can stay

[hexed lodge]

Use Umbral when is optimal, not on Voruna

[fierce lark]

the rest is a bit 💀

[amber fox]

Something better then the shit got on now

[solar reef]

that is so unhelpful

[sharp portal]

Whats a great playstyle for Mag? Im seriously triying to build her as much as possible, but I need a certain idea before I start spending forma and mods

[fierce lark]

triumbral is typically something you only use if you're using the armor & hp to tank with arcane persistence

[amber fox]

Melee cause i love light attacking like a blender

[solar reef]

augh

[sharp portal]

Im looking for Augur Reach but just doesn't appear 😔

[mighty flare]

you can look over: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1489188519929970838 for an idea of mag

[amber fox]

So. What mods do i need for voruna for melee?

[fierce lark]

pull magnetize shoot

crush with aug if you want armor strip/shield regen

i don't actually know what her 3 is for

[amber fox]

Archon mods, ima have to farm plat for

[hexed lodge]

don't we have a thread for voruna too btw?

[solar reef]

heres my set-up for a healthy mix between 2 and melee

[amber fox]

Christ

[solar reef]

you dont NEED any archon mods on her

[sharp portal]

Her 3 destroys shields and regenerate yours

[solar reef]

like they’re nice to have but the performance change is minimal

[amber fox]

You gotta be shitting me

[solar reef]

Roar/WA over her 4

Roar better atp in time for sure

[amber fox]

I dont like using helminth abilities

[sharp portal]

I figured out, Mag is one of those frames wich all skills are useful

[solar reef]

so dont build her for melee i guess

[amber fox]

I wanna keep the play style pure

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[fierce lark]

her 4 already does that tho 🤔

it doesn't literally drain shields, but it does restore shields and does way more damage than polarize

[sharp portal]

Pure in the way "No hellminth"?

[solar reef]

ts some cornball behavior but aight
you’re building for 4 spam in that case

[mighty flare]

sorta yeah, you just wanna keep her 2, everything else is preference

[sharp portal]

Thats why I like her

[amber fox]

Just not using helminth abilities but archon shards yes

[mighty flare]

neither crush/polarize care about dmg, both have some uses

[sharp portal]

Exactly

[solar reef]

Blood Altar/Well of Life Mag 🤑

[sharp portal]

Fair

[fierce lark]

i would keep crush for the strip alone, i can't think of anything special polarize does over it

[amber fox]

Is it bad that i want all her abilities unchanged but i still wanna do heavy damage?

[fierce lark]

other than restore more shield per enemy hit

[sharp portal]

How Mag can be obtained if you didn't choose her at the begining?

[mighty flare]

polarize creates shards that with nourish, insta prime viral in every bubble
its also more mobile than crush unless you have several sources of casting speed

[sharp portal]

Mars as Excalibur?

[solar reef]

no lol

[novel bear]

Polarize is way faster than crush
And pull’s not that good

[amber fox]

Thank God

[mighty flare]

with the armor cap, its much more easier to full strip off polarize now too lol

😭

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/410147/voruna/descent-of-fangs-ulfruns-endurance-ability-based-dps-nuke-voruna/

but yeah without subsumes you dont build her for melee

[amber fox]

Alright then

[hexed lodge]

Lots of players love doing helminthless for their favorite wfs sooo...

[solar reef]

do note that his archon shards of choice are kinda icky

[fierce lark]

oh lol polarize drains the same amount of armor as shields

im assuming this is base armor same as shattering impact

[novel bear]

Polarize for full strip is cope

[solar reef]

You’d use greens, ambers, and purples for ability damage on enemies affected by certain status

[novel bear]

Two casts at 338 strength

[amber fox]

Huh

[solar reef]

its a final multiplier for damage dealt through her 4

she primes for every status

[amber fox]

How can i shoot the ability strength so high that it wipes out the whole room in one go

[novel bear]

It doesn’t scale that well with strength
Go for range first

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gabagool-shon-son-im-crine-james-gandolfini-sopranos-gif-5632752440652965130

[amber fox]

I dont have any corrosive mods

[solar reef]

me when i dont know how voruna works

[novel bear]

Read the abilities on the wiki
Please
I beg you

[solar reef]

Her 2 primes for every status.

(that can be modded, so not tau/void)

[amber fox]

So i can still do corrosive got it

[fierce lark]

also you can buy archon continuity from kahl's garrison to make toxin procs apply corrosive

[mighty flare]

you can look over at: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1492606866482794601 for basic voruna info

[solar reef]

this is why green shards are preferred over purples or ambers

[novel bear]

Also greens are theoretically cheaper

Less useful

[solar reef]

idk man i always have a shortage

Im always using yellows for casting or parkour so i have a drought of them

[hexed lodge]

theoretically

[solar reef]

i also use a green corrosive stack shard on most frames

[novel bear]

Orange needs yellow and red though, as opposed to just yellow
Blue doesn’t count
And purples are the best combined shard by far

[amber fox]

Where do u even get archon mods from, i cant find the shop mode for kahl

[fierce lark]

are you building guns or pool noodles?

[solar reef]

it makes me feel more professional

[wild violet]

I dunno if this is the best place to ask this but how do I make Linbo not feel like I’m causing other people issues? I feel like banishing enemies is more of a hinderance and I barely understand the other abilities.

[solar reef]

usually i actually use two regular green shards just so i can visually see my armor strip in effecf

[fierce lark]

no i can't handle any more limbo talk today

[solar reef]

you dont

[fierce lark]

/s

[solar reef]

play him solo

[hexed lodge]

play solo
or find sci's guides

[fierce lark]

@near vortex i have another project for you

[wild violet]

What’s Sci’s guide?

[woven horizon]

hi people im new to the game and i want do ask if this build is good for new people

[fierce lark]

no

[fierce lark]

actually yes kinda

[novel bear]

Pretty good

[hexed lodge]

"Sci-Fi Freak"

[fierce lark]

obviously you want to fill out your mod slots eventually and upgrade where possible, but assuming limited resources this looks like you're doing what you can with what you have, heat is good

[hexed lodge]

tbh, not bad build for new player

[fierce lark]

all the bases are covered

[woven horizon]

thanks

[novel bear]

The full build would probably just be adding viral mods

And switching out some mods for better versions

[fierce lark]

you'd replace fast hands with cold/toxin (ideally the 60 versions) and arrange them to make viral + heat and beyond that just getting things like galvanized and corrupted mods

[wild violet]

Viral my beloved. No idea what you do but stuff dies when I use it so you’re amazing in my book.

[fierce lark]

critical delay over point strike, galvanized aptitude over serration, galvanized chamber over split, vile acceleration over speed trigger

[solar reef]

first stack increases damage dealt to health by 100%

[novel bear]

It multiplies damage to health

[solar reef]

each subsequent stack is 25%

[wild violet]

Dang.

[hexed lodge]

up to +325% at 10 stacks

[fierce lark]

honestly i think this is the first time ive seen someone new or new ish come in with a build and actually have vital sense

every single time ive had to tell someone to go farm or buy it lol

[solar reef]

a 4.25x direct multiplier to damage against health at 10 stacks

[woven horizon]

is it that hard?

to get?

[fierce lark]

it's a pretty rare thing that just drops randomly from a variety of enemies

or as a reward from i think a random sabotage mission somewhere

[amber fox]

I still dont have access to archon mods now

[fierce lark]

it's def not a common thing to just get accidentally

[fierce lark]

you've done the new war yeah?

[amber fox]

Chipper isnt here, but kahl is

[fierce lark]

you need to do his missions

[amber fox]

I swear to god

[fierce lark]

i think the first one you do saves chipper

[woven horizon]

i was asking if my build was good because im trying to do lv 30 things and i dont do enough damage

[fierce lark]

and gets you his shop

[wild violet]

Why is it a feature length film?

[fierce lark]

brother i don't enjoy kahl's missions either but archon mods are op lol

[amber fox]

The stealth mission is terrible

I keepn GETTING VAILED

veiled or what ever it is

[hexed lodge]

cause Limbo is complicated asf and I don't have enough brainpower rn to explain how to play limbo in publics...

[novel bear]

It’s not that bad
The second half is annoying, but the first is fine

[wild violet]

No yeah that’s fair. Just gonna get some popcorn and hope I can understand.

[solar reef]

if you cant cope with the missions just trade for them

[fierce lark]

you won't gl

be aware if you buy archon mods you have to pay the same 1mil credit tax you would for primed mods

[amber fox]

Zero plat, and i heard there is risk of getting banned for negative plat

So hear goes nothing

[solar reef]

dont get goaded into fearing dirty plat

its such a non issue for small trades

[undone dust]

my plat is dirty because i dont clean it

[novel bear]

Mainly happens with rivens

[solar reef]

if you arent doing multi-thousand plat trades its pretty much a total non-threat

[undone dust]

why would you say that to me

[solar reef]

this is really funny

[undone dust]

this is true

[solar reef]

crazy to say in warframe chat though lol

heard

[wild violet]

Build chat going wild holy moly.

[fierce lark]

or does the opposite

[solar reef]

we’re selective

sorry

[undone dust]

yeah im the funny one you're the sexy one

[fierce lark]

eh that's okay mods don't look at this chat anyway

[solar reef]

you can tell because they also dont know how to build

[fierce lark]

lol

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-gif-11828345172665766158

Valk talking about how good loki is but they didnt know damage decoy or safeguard swap existed and also they said their 4th was awesome

[fierce lark]

i can't make any weight jokes rn im busy slamming down hot honey pizza flavored old dutch

no sky im not slamming you down

oh

[solar reef]

taking notes

[fierce lark]

eh close enough

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-angry-furious-fuming-mad-gif-17841869167183441241

[near vortex]

gashu

AUTOCORORECT

WHAT

[undone dust]

gas? gassy? ugh im farting

[near vortex]

I TYPED HUH

[near vortex]

Put bubble down

Allies can either be in bubble or not

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/bowser-fart-gif-11437563165283047467

[undone dust]

that awful ass gif

[wild violet]

That’s the one that makes it so enemies can’t shoo you if they’re out of the bubble?

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/bowser-fart-bowser-fart-gif-gif-26927281

[near vortex]

Bubble makes an area that makes everything Rifted

[fierce lark]

"Gashu" is my new vocal stim

ty

[near vortex]

I've never seen the word gashu in my life bro

why did autocorrect

[wild violet]

And when you walk out of the bubble you’re unrifted?

[fierce lark]

idk man your phone chose gashu for a reason

[near vortex]

yep

[barren birch]

day 100, it's offering me 3 weapons, which should I grab?

[undone dust]

one of them

[static sphinx]

Is tenet arca plasmor good enough for gauss platform?

[near vortex]

zenistar or zenith

[wild violet]

Yeah sounds about right. I assume you use the bubble on objectives like defense missions?

[barren birch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[near vortex]

probably Zenith

[undone dust]

grab azima to own the liberals

[fierce lark]

zenith

[near vortex]

Usually yeah

you bubble places where enemies are

[fierce lark]

it doesn't really matter they all suck

[solar reef]

its fine

[fierce lark]

zenith has some niche applications that you'll probably never use

[amber fox]

Bro i swear to god

[barren birch]

is zenistar ok at applying heat stacks?

[near vortex]

Zenith has niche use for PT and maybe nokko bounties

[solar reef]

but but but eidolomns 😰

[barren birch]

might be an option for nezha?

[near vortex]

Zenistar has the awesome bug

[fierce lark]

and eido speedrunning technically

[static sphinx]

What tenet/kuva is best for Gauss then?

[wild violet]

So basically just Sicario from Payday 2. Thanks man I appreciate it.

[near vortex]

Zenistar

[solar reef]

i mean the bars pretty low
just use what you enjoy

[barren birch]

the melee she tells you not to worry about?

[fierce lark]

okay actually, if you can be bothered to play with pistoleer swaps

zarr gauss sounds actually hilarious

[undone dust]

you're so chud coded for listing that

[barren birch]

ok so I grab zenith for eidolons?

[fierce lark]

i would just pick whichever one looks coolest

zenith for eidos is speedrunning tech involving prefiring with the altfire and ur probably never gonna do that lol

[hexed lodge]

spill your secrets Tenno
I love the zenistar and now I must know

[viscid bane]

What are some weapon augments worth picking up?

[undone dust]

azima and overguard gate so you live forever, trust

[fierce lark]

"does your gun have an augment? it's probably good"

[near vortex]

literally just massive sword

[static sphinx]

Anyone got a good Gauss platform build?

[hexed lodge]

ah that bug, nvmd

[fierce lark]

unsure what's in the current nightwave store to suggest augments

but like generally every weapon augment is worth slotting

[undone dust]

bro thinks embolist augment is good

[viscid bane]

even this one?

[fierce lark]

lmao idk i haven't used the tigris

but i can see the vision

actually that's just primed tactical pump with a conditional

nvm that one sucks

[hexed lodge]

it's QoL, can be oursourced with wf abilities

[viscid bane]

if you kill a dude with 1 pellet, would the rest of the pellets that hit the head count since they are hitting a dead body

[fierce lark]

i think so?

[buoyant patio]

I was under the assumption this augment was trash, cause in most content enemies could die in less than 5 pellets.

[fierce lark]

tigris is hitscan right

so it should register where they're hitting before the damage

[viscid bane]

It doesnt for Incarnon charges

[fierce lark]

the augment is trash purely because the number isn't big enough ot slot over PTP

it's 20% faster reload but tied to a conditional

[buoyant patio]

It's hitscan, but an enemy dying nullifies all of the extra hits.

[fierce lark]

ptp just says 100%

[woven horizon]

what can i do to make this better im on saturn and my damage is bad i need help

[fierce lark]

well maybe not, iirc some effects that rely on hitting body parts does work on corpses

[viscid bane]

weapon?

[undone dust]

this one is AWESOME

[woven horizon]

boltor

my warframe is volt

[buoyant patio]

It does generally nullify most "on-hit" conditions from what I've seen though, and damage numbers won't appear for those pellets.

[viscid bane]

remove speed trigger and fast hands, add another elemental

[hexed lodge]

more forma or get another gun

[woven horizon]

what element i should put

[buoyant patio]

Boltor should not be struggling on Saturn though with those mods.

[woven horizon]

what gun you recomend?

[buoyant patio]

But yeah, you should invest in a new primary.

[fierce lark]

if you can, try to run mods that make corrosive (elec + toxin)

[viscid bane]

actually try removing hellfire aswell and add either toxin+cold to make viral or toxin+elec to make corrosive

[fierce lark]

will help a lot with killing grineer

[hexed lodge]

heat is still useful to help against grineer armor, especially in the early game

[woven horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[viscid bane]

If you want to keep hellfire add cold to make blast

[fierce lark]

early game setups don't have the status chance from aptitude or 60 mods to quickly and consistently apply viral, or stack dots. you're just looking for raw damage typically

the base boltor has 14% status chance

[undone dust]

do not make blast

[viscid bane]

sure, but corrosive is better at stripping armor

[fierce lark]

it's not unless you can stack it quickly. 1 stack of corrosive is 26%, heat is 50% over 2 seconds

[hexed lodge]

right, but it's early game... can't reliably apply more than 1 or 2 statuses

[fierce lark]

but applying even 1 stack of heat is going to take a few shots, and then the heat needs time to strip

just run corrosive for the instant 1.5x damage to all enemies

or viral for the eventual 2x

[undone dust]

corrosive cold!!

[fierce lark]

non-primed cold xd

[viscid bane]

he doesnt have space

[undone dust]

the best

[hexed lodge]

i agree, viral+heat or corr+heat will be your best shot for saturn

[hexed lodge]

that's why i suggested Forma or new gun

[fierce lark]

i wouldn't even add the heat, just viral or corrosive

[pure kiln]

i've been using xata's whisper with a blast iron staff but recently i swapped it out for viral electric and i'm wondering if there's a better to put over xata's (i was thinking it'd finally give me a reason to farm a 2nd kullervo for wrathful advance..)

[woven horizon]

i have 60 space on boltor

[fierce lark]

bear in mind, again, base boltor with no galvanized apt/chamber or 60 status mods is going to have very low status output

[woven horizon]

the other weapons have cap 30 right?

[fierce lark]

and no CO benefits

[fierce lark]

all weapons have a base capacity of 30, you get 60 by applying an orokin catalyst (which some weapons come with)

[viscid bane]

cap increases if you install orokin catalyst

[hexed lodge]

An orokin catalyst (blue potato) increases th 30 capacity to 60

[woven horizon]

ok so what exactly should i do

[viscid bane]

remove fast hands and speed trigger and add either viral or corrosive elements

whichever mods can fit/higher rank

[woven horizon]

how can i get corrosive or viral

[undone dust]

use auto mod and hope for the best

[woven horizon]

i dont have mods with that elements

[undone dust]

tox elec or tox cold

[viscid bane]

Corrosive is toxin+elec, viral is toxin+cold

[woven horizon]

i dont have toxin

[marble marten]

Share a top build for Furis Incarnon, I'm tired of seeing garbage builds on YouTube lol

[woven horizon]

where the toxin mods are for farm?

[fierce lark]

knowing what you have, this is what i would run with for grineer missions

[woven horizon]

thanks for the build i will try once i got the infected clip mod

its the only i dont have

[viscid bane]

Corpus enemies

[viscid bane]

I'd give you one if I didnt melt all my dupes earlier

[unkempt rivet]

How does one mod Saryn? Range strength?

[viscid bane]

Strength duration

and augment for 1

[woven horizon]

thanks for the help and the advice

[viscid bane]

I can try to quicky get one for you if you want.I'm bored and have nothing to do anyway

[woven horizon]

if you want

[unkempt rivet]

Revealing Spores?

[woven horizon]

if it is no problem for you

[viscid bane]

Also @fierce lark I kinda got sidetracked yesterday and forgottoask about your latron build. No gaptitude?

[viscid bane]

Venom dose

[fierce lark]

no gaptitude

projectile aoe moment

[undone dust]

bro dont want that direct hit damage what a loser

[viscid bane]

it's still multi on direct hits

[spiral chasm]

direct hits is like 20% of the dmg or smth

its not that worth it

[fierce lark]

direct hits are about 26% of the overall damage, plus latron is something that can run cannonade

[woven horizon]

i will need 3 forma for that right?

[fierce lark]

if you haven't used any yet, yeah

[woven horizon]

i dont even have 1 forma i making one in the forge

right now

[viscid bane]

You don't have many of those mods maxed out like the build shows so likely would need less (if any)

[woven horizon]

true

[indigo juniper]

Speaking of latron I've had mine ive been holding off on doing mine till recently I was never told how good it is it's probably one of my new favorites

[fierce lark]

it is very good

[viscid bane]

Also yea, I'm gonna get you Infected clip if you don't mind waiting a bit

[slender summit]

What mods do I want on Cedo Prime? I have Galvanised Hell, Primed Point Blank, Toxic Barrage, Scattering Inferno, Chilling Grasp and Vigilante Armaments

[woven horizon]

no problem thanks for the help

[indigo juniper]

from my riven escapades last night mind the odd build im testing

[woven horizon]

i was farming for that rigth now

[indigo juniper]

btw ive been enjoying the latron with a gas lavos build

[slender summit]

If it's no trouble, could you also send the Lavos build?

[indigo juniper]

sure

its a pretty box standard umbral build

[slender summit]

Thank you a lot

[indigo juniper]

also the shards i used

[umbral quartz]

Just to be sure, does the Projectile speed stat actually matter on the ocucor?

[slender summit]

Splendid

[barren birch]

now I'ma ask but I think I already know the answer, best nikana?

[indigo juniper]

i would assume its either the syam or the dex nikana

[spiral chasm]

nikana prime

[barren birch]

oh, I thought it'd be Skiajati

[violet silo]

no

beam range does tho

get beam range

[barren birch]

do I do crabsweat on syam?

[wary forge]

It doesn’t do anything

[wary forge]

No

[umbral quartz]

good.

[violet silo]

not at all

its like umbra

mid

[indigo juniper]

starting to think i have an addiction

[barren birch]

maybe

[indigo juniper]

also dont worry about that thalys riven nothing to see there

[slender summit]

@indigo juniper apologies for the ping, but is the Riven mod on the Latron Prime replaceable for anything else?

[indigo juniper]

yes i took out vital sence

[slender summit]

Cool, thanks

[indigo juniper]

ive held onto this riven and the incarnon adapter for like an entire year before i decided to work on all my backlog of weapons

[slender summit]

Fair enough

[indigo juniper]

also i cant tell if double tap is multiplicitive or not it feels like it is

[unkempt rivet]

Good aura mod to use with Garuda?

I’m thinking corrosive projection?

[indigo juniper]

ive also paired this build with deadhead on my weapon platform saryn but thats a adhd build that is not being shared as it runs both shock trooper and venom dose oveer her 4

know what its a good weapon leveler build too my shards are not the best but im running the max currosive stack and 3 str shards

its semi compitant im not really good at playing saryn tho

[wary forge]

That is certainly a build

[indigo juniper]

its basically force shoving elemental damage to the max

[quiet laurel]

thats very far from the max lmao

[viscid bane]

@woven horizon It took unreasonable amount of time somehow but I got your infected clip

[wary forge]

Shock trooper Sayrn that actually made me lose some brain power

[woven horizon]

thanks i lot

i was farming that

rigth now i and still dint get it

[indigo juniper]

this is why i dont use it much other than brainlessly leveling shit

[woven horizon]

how did you get it

[quiet laurel]

single dipping that toxic lash

[viscid bane]

orb vallis

[woven horizon]

what is that

[viscid bane]

Open area on venus

[viscid bane]

I'll just give it to you. IGN?

[gray iris]

in the most respectful way possible this build is pretty shit

i’m sorry

[west radish]

💀

[woven horizon]

what is ign

[viscid bane]

In Game Name

[woven horizon]

ok

here

[viscid bane]

sent you dm

[elfin sluice]

railjack turret question - which is the highest-DPS hitscan one?

[quartz tartan]

so I hear the best survivability methods are invisible and invincible, but what about playing Cyte-09 and just using walls?

and if I do do that, what survivability mods would be the ones I do use

[elfin sluice]

cyte-09 uses invisibility generally

[viscid bane]

You want either Apoc or Talyn

[quartz tartan]

Vortt is hilarious though...

[quiet laurel]

cyte runs either shield gate or invisibility depending on what weapon you run

[indigo juniper]

speaking of railjack is anyone running faction builds for that anymore

[viscid bane]

no

[viscid bane]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1aotwyp/best_everything_railjack_2024/

[elfin sluice]

have been using zetki vort, it's good enough for the job

[viscid bane]

The guide is still relvevant to his day

[quartz tartan]

Wait, just making sure, Vort is the one that launches comically large blades, right?

[elfin sluice]

don't think so?

it's a set of dual cannons that fires midrange - non-hitscan, good firerate

[indigo juniper]

cuz ive been running the old faction builds for awhile i will swap weapons and the loadout

[quartz tartan]

large horizontal electric blades, not like, Miter blades

[dusty dragon]

does gauss tend to need that much strength?

[viscid bane]

not atall. ppl usually run hit at base strength afaik

[dusty dragon]

even with thermal transfer?