builds-discussion

[sudden plank]

opticor moment

[prime fiber]

dude went around saying boar prime isnt good, started insulting ppl who defended it, and tried to insinuate im a new player thats ignorant

[timber sparrow]

oh my god can we talk about melee influence

[versed harbor]

melee influence bad de plz delete

[sudden plank]

And you control the narrative once again by calling me brain dead orignally then ignoring me calling it bait because you probally are a new player.

[viscid bane]

each time its brought up this is the end of discussion. and/or people just call it boring and move on

[sudden plank]

CRAB SWEAT RAHHHHHH

keep meaning to steal this

[prime fiber]

i said you act like you dont play regularly, theres a difference xD. please send a screenshot of where i called you braindead

[brazen hinge]

500hrs is also NOT new at all, there's consistent GOOD cap runners with 120 now

[prime fiber]

fr? wasnt aware tbh

[brazen hinge]

just depends if you spend 400hrs doing random missions or not

[brazen hinge]

there's a player in my clan with like 130hrs and got turned into one of the fastest cascaders i've ever seen

[prime fiber]

not that i need to prove myself but

[sudden plank]

Been playing since the release of nezha big guy, i dont need your opinion

[viscid bane]

O hey that's me. But add a zero to that

[brazen hinge]

my wf says 400 but xbox says 1800

[prime fiber]

if we count steam time...

[prime fiber]

good for you, i wasnt talking to you

[versed harbor]

influence raaaah

[fierce lark]

pretty sure profile hours only includes time spent in missions

[sudden plank]

hey btw this is talking to me

[brazen hinge]

okay? i've been playing since before garuda prime (which is after you) and your just wrong about boar, time played doesn't mean anything knowledge abt the game does

[sudden plank]

correct

[prime fiber]

yeah, its time in mission only, which i dont really like cause we spend a lot of time trading and stuff

[viscid bane]

well in that case

[brazen hinge]

at least 1200 of my 1800hrs is in my dojo afk or trading

[sudden plank]

Are you failing to still realize that my take on the boar was that its NOT a S tier weapon? how many times does this need to come across

[viscid bane]

can't believe I spent like 2000 afk in oriter or trading

[brazen hinge]

weapon tiers are dependent on multiple things tho, the ONLY S tiers overall are magi falcor dual tox and like maybe burston

furis MAYBE ig

[prime fiber]

burston prime no?

[brazen hinge]

burston is there

[prime fiber]

i havent gotten mine yet but ive only heard amazing things

[brazen hinge]

amazing single target very bad clear

[prime fiber]

xD, bros so ready to hate he put a skull reaction b4 finish reading

[sudden plank]

Burston prime has been a very strong weapon for years

[viscid bane]

Speaking of burston, which is better acuity or MS build?

[sudden plank]

If you can see my reaction you would see the drool emoji because he listed the burston genius, are you that self centered?

[fierce lark]

burston doesn't really have bad clear?

[brazen hinge]

MS is always better

[prime fiber]

i see that you changed it to the drool emoji lol, i saw the initial reaction you posted lol

[viscid bane]

boy there I go remaking my build again that is perfectly functional

[near vortex]

Furis is an EASY s

[brazen hinge]

it does tho, a full mag for a room isn't good at all

it's a single target weapon

[prime fiber]

you talking in general or for burston incarnon?

[near vortex]

It's one of the best weapons for cap Thrax killing with a good TTK

[brazen hinge]

it should b fine if you don't run cap

[near vortex]

Buffless, at least

[brazen hinge]

both

[fierce lark]

it doesn't take me the full incarnon mag to clear a full room, even for lvlcap corrupted it takes a few bullets per enemy and you (should) have pt

[timber sparrow]

multishot burston better who's trying to headshot on a bullet hose

[prime fiber]

imma have to disagree with you there chief

[brazen hinge]

yeah i just prefer other thrax killers tho furis is hard locked on my nezha

[violet silo]

is ragebait dude gone?

[near vortex]

I've been learning the Kompressa Thrax kill and it's interesting

[prime fiber]

some weapons do benefit more from acuity than MS imho, but its just one shot builds for cascade and stuff

[prime fiber]

poping in and out, id wait a bit

[violet silo]

that isn’t really true, acuity does way lore damage

[brazen hinge]

eh imo dropping the extra bullets is worse when acuity just gives dmg that is comparable to the MS anyways (unless your ms is literally abysmal)

[prime fiber]

deadhead builds tho?

[brazen hinge]

the difference is negligible if you have 1 ms mod (which most builds do anyways), acuity is only better for bosses with DA i think

[timber sparrow]

what's the highest CD on the nukor obtainable

[viscid bane]

This is what ninjase says. I'm too lazy to fact check

[brazen hinge]

also runs MS, deadhead is mainly used for the recoil control

[violet silo]

that’s okay, i’ll just leave again if he returns, I have better things to do than argue with someone who thinks having people disagree with them is the funniest thing on earth

[violet silo]

like 20 or something I forget

[near vortex]

Acuity hurts status by a high amount but it's great for raw damage

[brazen hinge]

eh i don't listen to ninjase his builds are more sp focused not cap and i don't play much besides that so

[prime fiber]

i see that, but imma still hold to acuitty being good for bosses and thrax one shots

[viscid bane]

Share your build?

[near vortex]

He plays Cascade

[brazen hinge]

bosses i agree on but thrax impode from burston anyways

[near vortex]

A lot of his stuff is for Cascade

Ninjase even has builds for a couple frames posted in the Cascade discord

[brazen hinge]

yeah his are optimized for comfort not mid maxed 10 billion buffs and room nuking with 2 buttons

[prime fiber]

well as a person who hasnt been blessed by fortune to have a burston incarnon, i make use of acuitty one shots in cascade

[near vortex]

Cascade cap doesn't need to room nuke

[brazen hinge]

i don't use anymore i deleted it icl, but i did for a bit i can prolly go find one in the depths of my screenshots tho

[near vortex]

There's a challenge run in Cascade discord rn that discourages nuking

[prime fiber]

im talking a thrax one shot using acuity not a nuke?

[near vortex]

I'm not talking to you?

[prime fiber]

oh mb

[brazen hinge]

yeah thats js an event for a role once its over most ppl are going back to nuking anyways (except for the ppl that are either too slow or dc enough to)

[near vortex]

You don't even need to nuke tbh

[brazen hinge]

yeah that's prolly fine then

[near vortex]

All you need to do is kill Thrax, clear exos and not die

[brazen hinge]

makes it significantly easier for defenders or if you have newer players tho

[near vortex]

Trash killing is only important for reactant

[prime fiber]

i never nuked for cascade personally

[near vortex]

New players are probably running Gus or invis frames

[viscid bane]

If it's not too much to ask

[prime fiber]

ive always played loki with silence, and i finished building my ash just yesterday

[brazen hinge]

the more things dead=less chance to get 1 tapped from

[brazen hinge]

not anymore from what i've seen i've seen a lot of the harder frames as of recent (tho octavia etc is still prevalent)

[prime fiber]

i dont think ive ever been one tapped in cascade?

[brazen hinge]

yeah i'll go take a look

[near vortex]

Voruna Prime I see a lot

Voruna Prime not having blue shard tax is peak

[brazen hinge]

near cap everything will unless you have cleaned and a decent gate (lazy or cata w augur)

[prime fiber]

was about to say you need to be trying to not gate

i run a gate build on my loki

[brazen hinge]

eh i've been hit with a tox proc recently which i didn't think was even possible

[prime fiber]

silence and iradiating disarm make shield gating easier aswell

[brazen hinge]

imo voruna doesn't need any shard but mine has 4pv 1 cast so

[near vortex]

If

[brazen hinge]

magi riv makes the game braindead for slam

[prime fiber]

well i didnt either, please do explain

[near vortex]

Why did that send

If you wanna run purple CD shards you don't need a blue anymore

[brazen hinge]

very very low chance a toxic healer can spawn in fissure and if it hits you at 5k or higher it'll insta kill you if negate or rg is down

[prime fiber]

ah, fair

[brazen hinge]

i got what you meant but she doesn't need bc if 1

[prime fiber]

well like i said, i only run loki and ash on cascade, so im not toooo concerned with getting one tapped, even on endurance

[brazen hinge]

my clan mate who has prolly 2k hours or more in cash hasn't seen one before so i was really confused

[brazen hinge]

loki is the main endurance frame atm unless your that maniac who ran cyte

[near vortex]

500p :michealdespair:

[brazen hinge]

snipe tc for 120 like i did then roll ms cc 😭

[modern shell]

Somewhat early game here. I'm using Vauban for his minelayer built to maximize ability effectiveness. If I use something like the sling stength Maduri ability to give a ability strength boost for a few seconds, will my mines be stonger for those few seconds, or if I drop them while it's active will they get that buff for their entire lifespan?

[near vortex]

I should do that actually

[versed harbor]

itll work for the entire lifespan ye thats a snapshot

[brazen hinge]

md cc* not ms mb

[near vortex]

I think hitting a natural Magistar riven would be funny

[prime fiber]

i have a silence loki but my damage falls out at around an hour to an hour and a half cause my melee cant strip armor fast enough, which is why i spent all of yesterday building my ash

[modern shell]

Thanks

[viscid bane]

Loki?

[brazen hinge]

do you mind showing your build? or what weapons are you using i can help w that

[prime fiber]

@brazen hinge the ash i put together

[brazen hinge]

yeah he's just insanely braindead so ppl use either loki slam or loki furis falcor

[prime fiber]

the tenorra for 1-2 shotting thraxes

[near vortex]

Arachne is a choice

[prime fiber]

hes so good for cascade it aint funny

[prime fiber]

i have nothing better, i need it to get to one shot damage

[near vortex]

I think Ash subsumes wrathful over 1 and just one shots Thrax with 4, no?

[prime fiber]

i dont have kullervo and i dont want to drop silence

[brazen hinge]

lowk i don't use ash so i cant even help w this one

[brazen hinge]

use fury if it works idek if it's coded as a melee

[near vortex]

You should be running silence augment then

[viscid bane]

And I hear all the time about Loki being weak.

[brazen hinge]

it's an exalted right?

[brazen hinge]

it's from the sp merchants who don't know more than torid ocucor and sevagoth

[prime fiber]

that wont buff my tenora tho

thats what im one shotting with

[brazen hinge]

yea highly doubt lowk

[old nimbus]

im making a melee speed build currently using the skana and volt (currently trying to unlock Gauss), ive just got to mars in progression is there any better weapon i should aim for or just stick with this for now

[versed harbor]

lokis just simple rly he has good survivability and a movement speed buff by default

[brazen hinge]

primaries are just awful in general with the exception of very few in niche cases

[prime fiber]

i know i need better arcanes ppl

but my loki

[versed harbor]

loki hate is so unwarranted

[brazen hinge]

volt nami solo is VERY good if you can pick up the incarnon

[brazen hinge]

aegis w no fast def?

lowk js do magislop

[prime fiber]

ill quit this game permanently before i make a hacky slam build

[viscid bane]

Last time I seriously played loki was during raid days. Interesting to see that builds havent really changed

[prime fiber]

vitrica is the only slam weapon ill every use

[brazen hinge]

missing out on equislam twin

[long portal]

keep getting and mastering new weapons since it's fun, but in general in terms of damage mods matter more than the weapon, especially where you are in the game

[old nimbus]

alr thanks

[long portal]

youll need mastery too for various things

[prime fiber]

melee is already supremely boring, why would i make it worse with a slam build

[long portal]

so it's important to keep mastering stuff regardless

[brazen hinge]

skana influence is also fine enough but nami>bo>okina>skana

[near vortex]

I need to finish my circuit this week for bo

[long portal]

well, he is like an MR2 volt, so i dont know that skana influence is relevant to him

[brazen hinge]

bc equinox is goated, but tbf u do agree melee is boring there's not many i enjoy

[prime fiber]

have u tried praedos actually built for damage and not movement stat stick?

[brazen hinge]

good point but they asked for smth to work towards no?

[brazen hinge]

i don't use praedos at all i have better movement sticks lol

[long portal]

yeah but i dont think their priority should be rushing incarnons

[near vortex]

Don't you high key just mod attack speed on Praedos for melee transference

[brazen hinge]

lowk would work anyways

[prime fiber]

yeah, my point was that you should try a non movement build for the praedos

theyre actually fun

[brazen hinge]

i would if i wouldn't lose my melee tech ngl, furax and cdagger are hard locked unless i use magi bo nami okina or rabvee

[near vortex]

I need to learn Mexian

I've been slacking

[prime fiber]

you have to give a combo build a shot, incarnon form at combo lvl 3, near infinite heavy attack spam with tennokai means 100% incarnon uptime

[proven flame]

Does anyone have a spare prime community mod I can use?

[prime fiber]

please do explain this melee tech tho

[near vortex]

Mexian

[prime fiber]

if its for cascades im interested

[brazen hinge]

it's called mexian just throws you

[brazen hinge]

it's for everything

[near vortex]

It's like slam cancel or something

[brazen hinge]

block variant and slide variant

[near vortex]

I don't remember how to do it, need to read the thread again

[brazen hinge]

no that's smth else, but can chain a mexian from a cancel

[prime fiber]

i just thought yall were a little racist and trynig to say mexican/j

[viscid bane]

@brazen hinge threw together a quick MS burston build as an alternative to my main acuity build. thoughts?

[prime fiber]

i cannot stress enough that i am joking, i dont think yall are racist

[brazen hinge]

unfortunately auto correct cooks me

[brazen hinge]

lemme see

[violet silo]

I do

[near vortex]

I'm not going to be racist in a Warframe discord
thats for my friends discords

[viscid bane]

didn't attach for some reason in the initial msg

[brazen hinge]

this prolly works well enough tbh

[near vortex]

Mexian is conclave tech

[prime fiber]

#trading

[brazen hinge]

if DE removes mexian or sling cancel i uninstall lowk

[prime fiber]

xD

[near vortex]

Hispanic frame when

[prime fiber]

i sure a lot of ppl felt the same way about coptering

and then we got bullet jumping

[brazen hinge]

unironically a lot of ppl DID quit bc of that

[prime fiber]

oh i know xD

[near vortex]

I don't think DE could add anything that compares to mexian

[brazen hinge]

a lot of end game players are leaving recently

[brazen hinge]

not even CLOSE

0pv installed btw

[prime fiber]

but i feel a lot returned once they realized coptering was replaced with something different better

[viscid bane]

Is mexian only doable with daggers?

[prime fiber]

im prolly wrong tho, thats before my time

[brazen hinge]

no

[near vortex]

There's a lot of weapon classes that can iirc

[brazen hinge]

its stance and attack speed dependant, cdag and furax wraith are the best ones to do it tho

furax can only block unless you have above 3.0 AS and the opposite on cdagger

[viscid bane]

Is this the correct tech?

[limpid loom]

Does Tekko or Tekko Prime have any effect on Atlas’s Landslide ability?

[prime fiber]

nty, i like seeing what im being launched at xD

[brazen hinge]

cdagger uses stinging thorn furax uses gaias tragedy

[brazen hinge]

yes, but for slide swap to slide then swap etc

[prime fiber]

but like genuinely, i already move better than 90% of the high level players i come across, i really dont think i need mexian

[brazen hinge]

once you learn tiles it's fine

[prime fiber]

i know the old tiles, and i still wouldnt

[brazen hinge]

for me it just opens more up bc now i don't need more than 20-40% pv when i used to be at 3-4 shards +cdag perm 6x and exilus always

now i can get away with exilus and one shard if i rlly want to

[prime fiber]

i feel like im the only tenno that doesnt gaf regarding parkout velocity

[brazen hinge]

honestly just depends tbf it helps a LOT in case specifically

[prime fiber]

i move fast enough as is

[brazen hinge]

mines never enough i used to run 450% pv voruna

[prime fiber]

i outpace praedos stat stick users on the regular xD

[viscid bane]

hoeh?

https://tenor.com/view/mococo-fuwamoco-hololive-advent-holoadvent-gif-12317042912665218377

[brazen hinge]

hm?

[prime fiber]

shoulder swap

H on pc by default

[brazen hinge]

there's block mexian and slide mexian block is the one you showed slide just replaces the aim input with a slide

[brazen hinge]

no not that i worded it wrong

[viscid bane]

that makes meeven more confused

[prime fiber]

oh nvm ig

i misread

[viscid bane]

and difference is?

[prime fiber]

sorry

[viscid bane]

in terms of functionality

[brazen hinge]

block goes further slide can be done mid air and replaces bullet jump but like half the distance

if you bullet jump into the air you can mexian and change directions with it or just launch yourself from that height

or just do it to get into the air faster

[prime fiber]

why do yall need stuff like this when you can travel across the zarimen in less than a minute with decent movement

[brazen hinge]

bc it changes 1 minute to 15 seconds if your used to it, can genuinely save relics or exos

[viscid bane]

cool speedrunner tech for style points

[brazen hinge]

this too

[prime fiber]

ig, too niche for my taste

[viscid bane]

Can this be done with praedos for even more crazy movement?

[prime fiber]

as a person who has been using a dps praedos since day 1, every time someone mentions the stat stick praedos a little piece of my soul dies

but like genuinely i do have like a minor reaction every time someone mentions it, its like i get jumpscared by the mention of it

[viscid bane]

and what about attack speed requirements again?

man Imlearning so much today

[fierce lark]

"how to perform mexican" thanks warframe

[viscid bane]

Always fun to impress baby tennos

[brazen hinge]

no, tonfas sadly cannot

can't direction change or mexian

[brazen hinge]

1.7 bare minimum for cdag/furax, ideally 3.0+ but requires a riven

[latent adder]

Hmm is that mine, why did I write "performance"

[viscid bane]

Will Mexian help with Nyx's abysmal movement during Assimilate or Ivara's prowl?

[violet silo]

at least u didn’t say mexican

[latent adder]

Yep

U can mexian ruvox on nyx for double jump too

[west radish]

is latrron prime much much stronger than base version mfs?

[violet silo]

yes

and why are we mfs

[west radish]

i copy pasted it

from diffrent server my fault

damn 75p for latron set

aint no joke xd

do i need prime sure footed when using this piece of shit

[pine hinge]

anyone around that can help with deep archimedea

[opal leaf]

Huh?

[dusk cliff]

how valueable is fire rate on the torid?

[violet silo]

yes

[violet silo]

chill, but also probably

[violet silo]

explosive weapon, stagger is annoying

[violet silo]

what’s up

[opal leaf]

What gun is this, I missed a few

[violet silo]

larton

[pale belfry]

Use PSF for aoe weapons

[opal leaf]

It can stagger?

Huh...

[dusky bane]

incarnon shoots explosive pellets yea

[opal leaf]

The bouncy?

[west radish]

yeah

ive like noticed XD

thats why i asked

was kinda confused

[opal leaf]

Ah

[pale belfry]

I got PSF all almost all my frame, not because eximus, just because how often i use aoe weapon

Especially kuva ogris

[west radish]

im using the 30% kncokdown rfesist one

[pale belfry]

Some exception like atlas, or overguard frame, i dont use it

[west radish]

its almost good xd

[pale belfry]

Before i got the PSF

I use fortitude + sure footed = 100% resist

Cost 1 more slot for QOL prevent knockback myself

[opal leaf]

There is a mod named fortitude? Just fortitude

[west radish]

yeah im rocking power drift

and hoping for the best ngl

[opal leaf]

What's wrong?

[west radish]

whats wrong what

[west radish]

yeah

[west radish]

100% total

[opal leaf]

Where is this when I need it

[west radish]

nightmare missions

[opal leaf]

And 100% shield recharge???? Broooo

[west radish]

its not bad yeah

[pale belfry]

Just a garbage mod but useful

You got it anyway in nightmare mission

[opal leaf]

What Group tho

I mean Which group

[west radish]

use wiki broski

[opal leaf]

I will but I'm in a meeting rn so I'm chatting here while listening to.... Whatever they are saying

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[fierce lark]

using an actual mod slot in addition to exilus to get psf...man

just use cautious shot atp

[opal leaf]

OK WTF is that hahaha

[fierce lark]

arbi mod for rifle exilus, at max rank it removes self-stagger

[pale belfry]

Caution shot is primary gun

[fierce lark]

oh thought it was rifles only

[knotty coral]

should i use boar prime or torid? (riven + incarnon included)

[old marsh]

torid

[knotty coral]

alr
ill start to lvl up torid then

[fierce lark]

oh yeah after taht weird argument earlier i ran a bunch of calcs trying different boar setups vs corroblast and viral heat torid

torid kills faster until you start getting into deep endurance, like lvl 400+ eximus

but boar probably kills any thrax a lot faster and at some point all enemies much faster

heat is just better dps if targets live long enough

[subtle solstice]

Is the onos any good?

[violet silo]

it is
if you enjoy it

[subtle solstice]

explain

[violet silo]

onos is a charged beam weapon

and the charge is slow

it can do a lot of damage tho

[subtle solstice]

uhm.... What? Are we talking about the same weapon?

you said it's a charged weapon? And a beam weapon?

[sudden plank]

correct

[subtle solstice]

so it's not a full auto weapon with a built in incarnon?

[violet silo]

i’m talking about the incarnon

[subtle solstice]

i was just talking about the default

[violet silo]

oh that’s meh

[subtle solstice]

could you elaborate?

[violet silo]

most incarnoff modes aren’t very good

[subtle solstice]

incarnoff?

[magic cargo]

i think he meant incarnon

[sudden plank]

incarnon mode off.

[violet silo]

incarnon mode, incarnoff mode

[magic cargo]

oh mb

[subtle solstice]

ah i see

[subtle solstice]

i mean.... dont incarnons give passive buffs to the "off" weapon?

[prime scarab]

dude holy crap overframe updated

Follie is on there finally lmao

[granite ginkgo]

yes, it based on ur perk pick - except 1st perk, that incarnon

[violet silo]

oh right
overframe

[subtle solstice]

ah

overframe?

[prime scarab]

Yeah its just a build site

[violet silo]

ninjase website

[prime scarab]

Its not great but ninjase posts there at least yeah lmao

[violet silo]

go there for ninjase build

[granite ginkgo]

still no voruna p , sadge

[violet silo]

shit site

[granite ginkgo]

shit stat calculation site

[old marsh]

torid genuinely sucks in ETA. have to use serration (before i wasnt)

[prime scarab]

I take Tenet Glaxion as a replacement Torid in ETA these days. Does the job.

[latent adder]

Follie was added ages ago

Did they add voruna prime

[prime scarab]

No I guess I just never noticed them adding follie lol

[granite ginkgo]

none yet, never tried underframe tho

[violet silo]

no

[granite ginkgo]

might i check there for few calculation stat test

[violet silo]

underframe has one problem

not enough builds

although, if there isn’t an underframe build for something, chances are there isn’t a good overframe one either lol

[fierce lark]

🤔

i dont really see how serration is moving the needle there, it's adding like 40% more damage on top of deadhead

[opal leaf]

How good is Despair Incarnon?

Anyone?

[old marsh]

no idea tbh. i havent gotten it in ages so cant say but that one time it did, boy was it horrible. was taking me more than 1 second to kill an eximus

[prime scarab]

Ninjase not recommending Airburst on his Follie build even as a suggestion kills me.

Its so good on her.

[undone dust]

airburst is for chuds, we use pull here

[prime scarab]

Airburst for Follie specifically is bananas. It'll yank the mine and the people at the same time, and you can pin it to ceilings and kill people in other rooms outside LoS with it.

[old marsh]

pfft. imagine using pull. only chuds use that. real Follie players use Chyrinka Pillar

[undone dust]

oh true actually

[novel bear]

Tempest barrage

[undone dust]

chryinka pillar death orb..

[latent adder]

For arc trap?

[undone dust]

false, we use gloom

[novel bear]

Ew

[prime scarab]

Yeah its SO good and SO fun

[undone dust]

oh im glooming it

[novel bear]

Only use gloom in defense

With max range

Make sure there’s a max range wisp too
And a nova casting slow

[dusk cliff]

what type of revenant build would you guys consider to be their best?

[deep grotto]

ive always wondered what Ninjase's pfp was actually

[prime scarab]

It being able to yank the arc trap at the same time as the enemies is so good. You end up ragdolling people into the mine, and even through walls kill people.

[deep grotto]

@fresh haven

[prime scarab]

Eyes and a nose

[deep grotto]

yeah fair

[latent adder]

Hmm

Ill try it

[latent adder]

Its from Pantheon the cartoon

[deep grotto]

intriguing!

[prime scarab]

It won't actually require much change from your existing build. I run more range on mine, 250 for as much airburst yanking as possible, but I ran it at 150 for a long time too

But you know how silly ragdolling can be

[old marsh]

so before i consider changing the progenitor, need suggestions on riven and element

[prime scarab]

I'll regularly toss a mine at my feet and then airburst to throw it at enemies.

Follie can level cap with 0 mods or subsume tho so its not like its a huge deal either way :p

[novel bear]

Viral elec with a progen that fits one of those

[opal leaf]

Wait... Why are we putting airburst in folie?

[prime scarab]

Arc Traps. Airburst will pull them too, and ragdoll people into them. It also kills through walls this way.

Its my absolute favorite Follie build.

[novel bear]

Why arc trap when barrel

[prime scarab]

I don't really enjoy the barrel playstyle tbh

[old marsh]

gotcha

[prime scarab]

Its good but I prefer traps

Airburst is really really fun even without it yanking the arc traps but with it pulling arc traps along its just silly

[opal leaf]

If that's the case why not use Nidus' skill

Itll fit thematically and stuns them

[violet silo]

I only nuke the enemies with conduit keys, i’m not like you nerds

[vocal jetty]

anyone have a goated cernos prime build that is good for sp 🥺

[prime scarab]

For two reasons.

I do not have Nidus.

and I have not tested it.

So really one reason I guess

[opal leaf]

Fair point

[old marsh]

i need one too. so +1

[prime scarab]

Oh I remember now. Larva had a recasting issue

The rework should fix that

[opal leaf]

Yuppers

[violet silo]

is cernos p better than proboscis?

[vocal jetty]

idk i just sold either the rakta or the proboscis tho LOL

[prime scarab]

Once the rework hits I'll probably mainline Nidus and shove him into the chair to test that

[violet silo]

are they even similar at all?

[opal leaf]

Yes sir

[prime scarab]

I love CC tbh

I'm sure you do too mr uh...CC king

I'll take solid grouping and CC over red crits most days

[violet silo]

I HATE cc

[prime scarab]

Bummer

[violet silo]

i’m evil that’s why

[prime scarab]

Thats valid

[opal leaf]

You take that back you Gus lover!

[opal leaf]

I love CC :3

[violet silo]

i’m part of the evil anti-cc faction

[mighty flare]

Not really no, different types of weapons

[opal leaf]

How dare you!

[violet silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1434676373565345862/1440410633865793708/caption.gif

[prime scarab]

So far the only CC I've played that I don't like is ironically follie.

I can't stand the balloons.

[old marsh]

in terms of performance yes but they work differently. same for mutalist cernos

[prime scarab]

The balloons just slow down play. Are they good? Yeah. Absolutely. But stop it.

[opal leaf]

You'll love Vauban

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I have him. He's sick. I've got him as a las spammer.

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-nodding-nod-yes-yup-gif-13973219

[prime scarab]

I wanna play Zephyr more too but I keep getting distracted by testing new frames instead

I discovered I do not care for Voruna today

[opal leaf]

Same

But I'm trying Limbo next week

[prime scarab]

Like I get it? I see what people like about her? Its...not for me

Limbo is on my list too, he's low down there though

Tomorrow I'll be building Qorvex, he's been on my list for a long time

He looks really fun mechanically

[opal leaf]

Voruna is aight, I can understand the hype hut she is quite Nuke Seva,

I get bored

I mean I make Sevagoth into a CC Seva sooo

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[prime scarab]

I want to like her but DE doesn't seem to want me to run around like a little werewolf and bite things

They want me to like

do stuff

[solar reef]

im roaring it

im roaring it

im roaring all over my voruna

[solar reef]

the secret is to subsume off her 4

grifters will swear its not how she should be played

[prime scarab]

100%. All three of my loadouts have a different subsume on her 4.

[solar reef]

imo shes the best melee platformer in the game

followed by Saryn

[prime scarab]

Its especially funny because like...does it armor strip? Yeah. Does her main damage ability NEED armor strip?

NO

[prime scarab]

How do you mean?

[solar reef]

mass priming, huge crit buffs from her 1

[prime scarab]

what?

Crit from her 1?

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gabagool-shon-son-im-crine-james-gandolfini-sopranos-gif-5632752440652965130

[prime scarab]

???

[prime scarab]

oh

lmao brother I've been talking about follie this whole time

[solar reef]

A flat 100% CC and SC added straight onto her stat sheet

[solar reef]

i was literally replying to you talking about voruna

[prime scarab]

Yeah man Idk what happened

Anyway for Voruna I do agree thats the best way to play her but also I don't wanna do that

[solar reef]

also the crit damage bonus scales with strength

[prime scarab]

If I'm gonna play t he wolf frame I want to run around like a wolf

[solar reef]

ive been platforming with her since 2022

shes my main

[prime scarab]

Listen man I'm not buying your dog no matter how cool you make her sound

[solar reef]

i dont even use her prime

less aura

https://tenor.com/view/bjorn-dancing-cow-peggle-gif-15523428738766084410

[prime scarab]

Voruna ultimately is cool and I like the concept and theming but she suffers in that I WANT to play her one way and that way isn't particularly viable in most content. Same problem I have with Temple.

Which is a me thing

[solar reef]

there is no content where 4 spam setups arent viable

minus like ESO since you cant ability spam there

[prime scarab]

For me the problem with her 4 is simply that I had to press it too many times.

The energy I was looking for was press 4 then bite bite bite bite bite bite bite bite bite

But I cant seem to make that happen

[solar reef]

i mean it takes one to two 4 hits to kill enemies at level cap if you’ve built her right

[opal leaf]

Ayo still onto that Voruna stuff

[solar reef]

only 1 needed if you just let her status kill things

literally just getting your shards right can make a 30-50% difference in damage

[prime scarab]

Right, but you get 5 bites per cast of 4 and I am looking for more than that. The aug helps but it didn't help enough for me to enjoy it.

[solar reef]

revenants right there I guess

hes more your speed chudson

https://tenor.com/view/evil-superman-gif-632723218522114279

[prime scarab]

Not a fan of Rev either. Again, I'm not saying she's bad or anything she just doesn't play the way I particularly wanted her to.

[opal leaf]

Not only he is the most immortal

He is the fastest frame hahaha

[solar reef]

this is factually true

[prime scarab]

So far my top 4 are Follie, Frost, Grendel, and Nokko.

Zephyr sneaks in there sometimes.

[opal leaf]

I won't be surprised if Revenant can nuke in someway

[solar reef]

he can

[opal leaf]

OK so

He is the fastest frame
The most invulnerable
And now he can nuke???

[old marsh]

Frost mentioned

[opal leaf]

Is Rev a god????

[solar reef]

its not like an insane nuke or anything but it does scale to level cap

[prime scarab]

I didn't actually expect to vibe with him but I built him to take into ETA and fell in love. He is so...cool.

[solar reef]

surely you didnt think he was populare solely for survivability

[old marsh]

Rev is Rebb's baby. now u know why he is the way he is

[opal leaf]

God dammit, Rebb is paying faves

[solar reef]

ive found that i enjoy frost much more after throwing away his overguard augment

[old marsh]

he is actually one of the most popular frames for ETA

[prime scarab]

I love the overguard augment.

[prime scarab]

I got tired of everyone else dying lmao

[solar reef]

its cast is just way too slow to maintain and it breaks immediately anyways so i just opt for cata shields

[prime scarab]

My OG never breaks

I have like 30k constantly

[solar reef]

ts is NOT enough at that casting speed

[old marsh]

i love it when i get Frost or whenever one joins the time. i am like, now i dont have to press 20 keys to survive. i can just go afk

[solar reef]

enemies at level cap do upwards 11m damage

[prime scarab]

Right you just run shards

[solar reef]

if you have to cope with 3 shards to make it as capable as cata shields its not worth running

its a base steel path augment and thats great

[prime scarab]

I run 2 shards and do just fine. Sounds like a skill issue.

[solar reef]

it just doesnt do much better in my application

[solar reef]

i mean im doing functionally the same thing without any shards and just slotting cata shields

you’re playing content where that OG never breaks

and thats ok

[prime scarab]

I've taken him to cap too.

[solar reef]

then you understand that its basically just gating with more investment

[prime scarab]

Sure, if you want to ignore the status immunity and comfort.

[solar reef]

status schmatus just roll

i dont think its any more comfortable that cata gate

[prime scarab]

Disagree 🤷

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[dark harbor]

guys quick question chroma ultimate is allways 10 m radius? even if i quit range mods?

[prime scarab]

his effigy? the credit effect?

[dark harbor]

yes

[prime scarab]

Yeah, 10m unaffected by range

[dark harbor]

Peak

thanks man ❤️

[prime scarab]

A lot of chroma builds just tank range into the ground

[solar reef]

for future reference, you can always slap a stretch mod on and check the ability card

[dark harbor]

using it for credits on 1999

[solar reef]

if that number doesnt change in color or value then its unaffected

[prime scarab]

You can also pull up the wiki it should label it there

[solar reef]

it doesnt

[prime scarab]

I just checked it does

[solar reef]

where

i couldnt find it

[old marsh]

who is telling the truth

[prime scarab]

It has no scaling listed next to it.

So its a flat.

[dark harbor]

ye so it does say enemies but it works on credit cache too

but here it doesn't appear the range

[solar reef]

usually they have an actual side note that mentions this

[solar reef]

chroma needs such a fat rework

[prime scarab]

I've found the note inconsistent but I've never been misled by just looking to see if they put the icon next to it

[solar reef]

his 1 is so dookie buns, his 4th is just credit utility

his 2 and 3 are good but like

they’re press-and-forgets

[dark harbor]

XD

[opal leaf]

Just... What's... Is Despair Incarnon good?

[solar reef]

its aight

if you like using your incarnon for like 10 seconds tops then yeah its great

[opal leaf]

Reliable secondary?

[solar reef]

sure

[opal leaf]

Hmmm

[solar reef]

i’d use it before investing

[opal leaf]

Good damage?

[solar reef]

its got some ammo issues

[opal leaf]

How much

[solar reef]

its incarnon form if you hold the trigger lasts like 4 seconds

[opal leaf]

Oh

[solar reef]

its plenty good its just like

its not for everyone

[opal leaf]

Fair

[solar reef]

so i 100% recommend using it in a mission first

[opal leaf]

I see

Like just to feel it first before investing

[solar reef]

like obviously not worrying about damage

since it does plenty

just like so you can understand WHY i say it has issues

because its immediately obvious

[opal leaf]

Ooo

Bramma stuff if I can compare it

[solar reef]

kinda

[opal leaf]

Ahhhh

[solar reef]

its sorta like throwing 20 bramma shots

[opal leaf]

Ooo

[solar reef]

its just, once again, those go by super fast

[opal leaf]

I see

[solar reef]

every headshot with it is 5 incarnon shots iirc

so its still managable its just a lot of swapping

[opal leaf]

Any special effects from the Incarnon?

[solar reef]

i unironically opted for a reload speed riven

just to cope with it

[solar reef]

what do you mean

[opal leaf]

Torid and Boar is a Beam

Latron is a bouncy ball

What about Despair

[solar reef]

.

exploding kunai

[opal leaf]

So literally just rhat

I see

[solar reef]

i use it explicitly for the initial combo on Hate incarnon

oh i should also add that like 90% of the other incarnons its radial heat explosions

so its explosions themselves arent terribly unique

its just that its a throwing weapon

[opal leaf]

I see

Cause I'm thinking of buying the bundle for Limbo and I don't wsnt to use the throwing blade that is weak

[spiral chasm]

i only used it when the tusk was bugged and 1 shottable with the weapon

[opal leaf]

Despair?

[spiral chasm]

yeh

[opal leaf]

Ohhh

[old marsh]

I Hate Despair. Because it has an Incarnon so I obligated to use it and I Dread for the day it will get an augment so I will have to use it even more.

IMO every Nightwave should come with 3 augments instead of 2. One of each weapon type

[solar reef]

why would you worry about skins with incarnons

EXCEPT for kunai incarnon

which is the only incarnon where you can use other skins and them appear during incarnon genesis

[solar reef]

if anything it should have gotten an augment instead of hate

like dont get me wrong Burning Hate is awesome

but its also just entirely unneeded since Hate Incarnon is so good as is

Despair is in a state where it could really benefit from a handy augment like that

[old marsh]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Oh fck I remember

Theu don't apply on incarnons!

Gahhhhh

[solar reef]

except for kunai iirc

[sleek marlin]

could someone help me understand how this build of a kuva nukor is so strong it can easily melt steel path high level enemies but when I copy a similar build to other weapons its not as good?

im a relatively new player so i've just mainly been referencing overframe builds but i want to understand how mods/stats is more suitable for a specific weapon but similar build dont work for other weapons.

[opal leaf]

But kunai Incarnon sucks tho

Or I'm wrong

[solar reef]

its ok

also, if youre desparate, use scyotid

actually nvm

[opal leaf]

That is the reason why we don't copy the build, but use the build as a template for our builds

[solar reef]

those cant use skins

[solar reef]

if it makes you feel any better, ive never once been able to use the super cool Tennocon shuriken weapon skins since every throwing weapon that can use skins sucks

[sleek marlin]

hence im trying to learn more in depth of how a setup makes the weapon good. do i just read through elemental stats and stuff in the wiki without any directions?

are there wiki pages for how damage is calculated and stuff?

[opal leaf]

Malz can you help you more with Nukor

I'm into DUAL toxo

[solar reef]

yeah but they're all over the place and you'd have to read through several pages for concrete information

[opal leaf]

Tennogen tho

[solar reef]

if you just want calculations/results use Underframe

[opal leaf]

Is it not?

[solar reef]

is what not

[opal leaf]

The tennocon shuriken Skin you mentioned

Unless I misunderstood

[solar reef]

no

its tennocon

not tennogen

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Protokol_Hira_Thrown_Weapon_Skin

[opal leaf]

Ohhh wait what's the difference?

[solar reef]

tennocon is the annual event held to celebrate warframes success and establish major game updates/roadmaps

tennocon

[opal leaf]

Ohhh

[solar reef]

as in convention

also, none of the protokol skins are tennogen

they're all weapons from Dark Sector

[opal leaf]

OHHH

[opal leaf]

As in the old game? Old warframe?

[solar reef]

as in the old game, yes.
it is NOT old warframe though

[opal leaf]

Oh I guess it's different

The mechanics and design are so the same in a sense

Or is it the first project of DE? Or still no

[solar reef]

DE wanted to make a scifi shooter
Partners said "no space, scifi is so out"
so they made dark sector

later they pulled the trigger on their space scifi shooter which became warframe

[opal leaf]

Oh

[solar reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOE6528pwFc

if you want a better look at it

[opal leaf]

Aight

[magic cargo]

does the laetum benefit from galvanized shot?

[fierce lark]

no

[magic cargo]

with what i should replace it with?

[fierce lark]

would need to see the build

[magic cargo]

gimme a sec

@fierce lark here

[fierce lark]

drop both hemm and shot for rad mod and vile accel

or fulmination

bleed builds are kinda dead

[magic cargo]

vile acceleration its a rifle mod

[opal wind]

Whats the best subsume for a strength Wisp build?

[fierce lark]

anemic agility

hte pistol version lol

[dark harbor]

another silly question

does chroma 60% credits booster stack if there is 2 chromas?

or the buff does it apply for the team mates also?

nvm yeah it works

i saw it on the wiki

[dense belfry]

mostly asking because im sure someone here is a sevagoth main (or knows sevagoth a lot)

what should i try to focus on? try to balance out effiency and range or should i rework this build out?
(yes i forma'd him once because no polarity on a aura slot was WEIRD.)

[opal leaf]

What's the purpose here? Nuking I believe?

[dense belfry]

uking mostly as well as occasionally using his 4th

[dark harbor]

i usually use this if it can help

[opal leaf]

Oo...

@hexed lodge Seva baby need help

[dense belfry]

i finally took him out my foundary after like, 2 weeks sitting there after i first got his prime set (by accident)

right i dont have his augments 😭

[near vortex]

Mag cap over elec and this would be groll

[dense belfry]

im in the syndicate that has them but itll be a couple weeks before i get near that

[cobalt kite]

guys diriga or panzer vulpaphyla for viral priming?

[dense belfry]

keep in mind im a pretty simple tenno, my mains are kullervo and valkyr 😓

[opal leaf]

Do a big step

Come with me, I'm Mastering Seva and Limbo next week after my break

XDD

[dense belfry]

big step?

[opal leaf]

Yeah, both of them are very complex if you use their whole kit

From simple frames to complex frsmes

[near vortex]

Limbo my beloved

[dense belfry]

i dont have limbo :D

(havent worked for his frame yet)

[near vortex]

Limbo resurgence when

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-limbo-warframe-animation-gif-14652214

[near vortex]

Need to give all my friends Limbo Prime sets

Limbo's best weapons are melees

[opal leaf]

Can... Can I have it too ;~;

Me friend

[near vortex]

I don't have any yet
That's why I'm saying we need a Limbo resurgence

[opal leaf]

@dense belfry get ready, Seva Main is here

[dense belfry]

i saw it

[hexed lodge]

As a new player with no subsumes or augments, i'd go for this build
https://overframe.gg/build/891308/sevagoth-prime/early-game-sevagoth-build-guide-0-forma-no-augments/

[hexed lodge]

And this is a very heavy-investment build fyi

also hi @opal leaf lol

[dense belfry]

-# i do have roar but thats it

[opal leaf]

Had to ping the guy for the right problem hahah

[dense belfry]

i dont really need a early game build, im a big boy, i got the cool(some) mods

especially as i run around steel path a lot, ESPECIALLY in belly of the beast as i grind for arcanes

[hexed lodge]

well, if you want a Roar Sevagoth nuke build, it needs minimum...

• Roar
• 255% strength
• Both augments
  take one factor out, and you'll struggle pretty bad ||, that or just go for a hybrid and/or viral nuke build instead||

[dense belfry]

ah intresting
seems i got a lot of new loka grinding to do unless i can buy those mods

or trade em w/ fish :D

[hexed lodge]

what about the 255% str breakpoint? can you reach that without Blind Rage?

[opal leaf]

You can?

[dense belfry]

lemme see

[opal leaf]

Oh wait.. 5 tau reds

Transient fortitude, Umbral Intensify, Augur Secrets/POWER drift

Right? @hexed lodge

[dense belfry]

with this yeah

thats with just 2 normal reds

[opal leaf]

That's enough tbh

[hexed lodge]

aight bet

where you putting roar on? 3 or 4?

[dense belfry]

3, as i plan to use his 4th on occasion

[opal leaf]

Ya dura won't be a problem then, that I knoe

[dense belfry]

so fleeting efficency shouldnt be an issue

[hexed lodge]

Got it ~
https://overframe.gg/build/874330/

[opal leaf]

You got a Limbo build?

[hexed lodge]

i wouldn't reccommend fleeting, you still want some duration to upkeep Roar

[hexed lodge]

haven't got a chance to play much recently

[dense belfry]

true

if i may ask, why specifically 255%?

[hexed lodge]

math!
jk, Sevagoth's 2+1 deals 25% dmg, right? at 255% str, that's enough for sevagoth's 1 plus Roar to increase that 25% to 100%

[old marsh]

Roar multiplies dmg which comes out to be little over 100% true dmg. So one shot

[empty radish]

I am a Saryn main who uses her as a weapons platform and was told panzer is good synergy with her, but my panzer isn’t very good. What do I do?

[dense belfry]

ohhhh! okay i understand now :O

i need to level him up again but i think i understand

[empty radish]

This is my panzer and it’s claws

[dense belfry]

if i can get more red shards (and a couple forma w/ preperation) i could swap my yellow shards with red duration shards

[hexed lodge]

honestly, Arcane Concentration might be the better pick to snapshot Roar's duration

[dense belfry]

ive only got 1 lol

[hexed lodge]

big rip

[dense belfry]

concentration if i remember right, i can double cast the same ability and get that duration?

or do i just slap 2 then 3

[near vortex]

I can slide you one in a couple minutes

[dense belfry]

think i slapped blessing on to squeeze some survivability
filller slot till i get concentration
oh i can get it from roathe

brb

easiest 100 maphica spent

[opal leaf]

Oooo nice, I need a reference build

[opal leaf]

Wait you mention that Limbo likes Melee... Why

[near vortex]

-Rift Torrent
-Melee Influence
-Melee stealth multiplier

[opal leaf]

Oh... My Limbo is gonna be the grim reaper heheh

[near vortex]

Casting shards MANDATORY

I have 3 plus Madurai

Intensify can be umbral int

Drip 1

Drip 2

[opal leaf]

Net is so slow I'm dying, imma save this in an instant

I want to see that drip

[opal leaf]

No Equi? Maybe bc of the energy restoration on his passive

[opal leaf]

This one look sick hahahaha

[near vortex]

Don't need equilibrium, yeah

[opal leaf]

Isn't his skills costs quite an energy?

Or you rarely spam

[near vortex]

You'd be impressed at how well Limbo passive upkeeps energy

Its hard if you go for Blind Rage over intensify but doable

[opal leaf]

Well about to see

I man 10 energy persecond? That's quite fast

[opal leaf]

Ah nah

Tbh, I don't see the need of Strength aside the Torrent

[night laurel]

swear he takes 3-5 business days to clap for cataclysm

[opal leaf]

Wdym

[near vortex]

You really don't need that much

I just like big number

[near vortex]

That's part of why you NEED casting speed

if no shards put natural talent

[opal leaf]

Where? Over Vigilante?

[near vortex]

intensify

[opal leaf]

Oh I see

[near vortex]

Molt Augmented gives more than enough strength

on configs with Overextended I just slot Molt Augmented to get back to 100% and its more than enough

[opal leaf]

Fair point

I am thinking on going huge range hahah

[near vortex]

Weapons I recommend:
Xoris/falcor
Contagion Zaws
Okina Incarnon/Dual Ichor Incarnon

[near vortex]

You can absolutely do that, but you need to be conscious of enemies stuck in Banish Surge loop

[opal leaf]

I seee

[opal leaf]

Why the Twin glaives? (Xoris/Falcor)

[near vortex]

Eject everything from the Rift every once in a while to reset things

[near vortex]

Same reason as Chroma

Rift Torrent applies twice

2000% Rift Torrent is basically 40,000%

[opal leaf]

Oh I see

[near vortex]

Same with the Zaws

[opal leaf]

Damn DAMN THAT HIGH????

Wait hold on, should I need the boom boom or the bounce from glaives is ok

[near vortex]

Okina and Ichor are there because their incarnon stuff goes cross rift and so does influence

[opal leaf]

Like Falcor

[near vortex]

Bounce is good

[opal leaf]

Ah that's why it's both

[near vortex]

Falcor is what I use

[velvet pulsar]

It should've been duration based.

[near vortex]

Falcor and Xoris are interchangeable

[opal leaf]

I really need to have less Heavy wind up so I can spam it

[near vortex]

Amalgam Organ Shatter

[opal leaf]

Ah I don't have ittt and it's not tradableeee

[velvet pulsar]

The fact that it reduces dynamically as u kill enemies inside rift without any duration on the damage buff is something which is rarely done for other frames.

Most damage buffs have a duration.

[chrome badge]

And snapshots

[fierce lark]

holy limboganda

[velvet pulsar]

They always treated him completely different

[opal leaf]

I'm trying to learn Limbo hahaha

[opal leaf]

Wdym

[near vortex]

This is my Falcor
Swap riven and volcanic to shocking touch and bane/Voltaic or something

[fierce lark]

bombo

what’s up with this cold riven

[near vortex]

Blast Influence

Rift Torrent is so strong that you can just do that

[fierce lark]

ah, yeah i heard that’s pretty good on furis P

[velvet pulsar]

Xata limbo?

[opal leaf]

I was so confused bc it says Furis Prime hahahaha

[near vortex]

No subsume but Xatas is very funny

Subsumes on Limbo can be strong but dropping a part of the base kit is really hard

[fierce lark]

the next trick is to get boar and rename it Coda Torid

[near vortex]

undercooked Furis build

should be Fortifier over Flare

[velvet pulsar]

So was told for Lavos.

[near vortex]

kinda like Lavos yeah

[fierce lark]

what in the convulsion

[near vortex]

except your teamates won't hate you for subsuming over 1 with Lavos

[near vortex]

need to keep forma-ing

[fierce lark]

im gonna be real, if you have nourish or external viral already then pure heat is probably a lot better than corrosive heat

[near vortex]

its Furis

[fierce lark]

ik

[near vortex]

this works just fine

Furis is just that strong

especiallt when you give it 10 hornet strikes

[fierce lark]

of course, but it could be better

[floral finch]

still dont have alot of mods but using this atm for hollvania/descendia stuff

[velvet pulsar]

These days we are getting more people who could use the help of rift haven

[near vortex]

that augment pisses me off

[velvet pulsar]

U did say it

[near vortex]

It should just work on anyone in the rift, not just specifically banish

[vocal ledge]

any 1 got a phantasma prime build for long sp voide cassacades\

[spice willow]

is blast + xatas whisper good

like could it work on any gun

[charred gale]

not on any gun but most guns yeah

[spice willow]

i want to get vinquibus, would it be good on that or say the ax-52

or efv jupiter

[charred gale]

i think ax would be better

[charred gale]

thats not good

[spice willow]

ambassador?

[opal leaf]

Let us go back to his gameplay

@near vortex how do you play him?

[charred gale]

i think that ones ok probably not better than AX tho

[near vortex]

Put things in the Rift
Rift Torrent
Kill

hold cast 1 + 3 is very good for spreading Rift Surge

[opal leaf]

1 and 3 mostly huh

[near vortex]

hold cast 1 several times to eject enemies from the Rift

keep 2 active AT ALL TIMES

[opal leaf]

What does that do?

[opal leaf]

It's a channeled ability?

[near vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-limbo-warframe-animation-gif-14652214

[near vortex]

No

Cast it again when it goes down

[opal leaf]

Timed? I assume

[near vortex]

That's why we run duration

I'd do negative duration if it was channeled

[opal leaf]

Ohhhhhhh guess imma go high dura then

Well not that high that I'd use a Corrupted mods

[near vortex]

I run primed continuity plus

2 duration shards?

i think

if you want more you can run more ig but its not as helpful for anything other than Stasis uptime

[opal leaf]

Explain why

[near vortex]

Because low duration makes Rift Surge detonate more often passively

And I find myself recasting bubble all the time

[spice willow]

are there any frames like yareli but for primaries?

[opal leaf]

So like useless constant activation

[opal leaf]

Crit increase on passive ?

[spice willow]

no like abilities

[opal leaf]

Well... None, but if you thinking with DV... Uhh... Idk I can think of only 1, Nezha

[hexed lodge]

from top of my head... harrow, nidus (augment), chroma, gauss, lavos (augment), limbo (augment), revenant (augment), rhino and ||bias|| Sevagoth (augment?)

[opal leaf]

Which Nidus augment gives DV?

Insatiable?

And which Limbo Aug gives DV?!

AND FKR REV????

[hexed lodge]

DV?

[opal leaf]

Damage vulnerability

Oh wait I'm in the wrong

[hexed lodge]

oh i didn't think of DV with op's question

[opal leaf]

I misunderstood the question

[hexed lodge]

it happens

[velvet pulsar]

Cyte-09 for snipers (but primaries in general when using electric resupply)

[old marsh]

Harrow, Nyx, Zephyr

[fresh haven]

For comfort, weapon platform, ability based, just fun overall, or goofy ?

[inner raptor]

something something press 2

[opal leaf]

That summarizes the whole Gameplay of Revenant

[solemn valley]

I everyone, I’m new to warframe, what’s a good build to go with ?

[opal leaf]

For which frame? There is no one build that generally be used by anyone

[solemn valley]

Oberon

[opal leaf]

Focus ON Range,

First off how new are you?

[solemn valley]

Very new

Played a handful of hours on iOS and switch. But now want to get stuck into it. I’ve finished the part where I go and upgrade my ship.

[opal leaf]

Ahhh

First off Oberon wants range and strength and durstion

I'm sure you have Stretch, Intensify and at least Continuity

Then farm Augur Mods on Cetus bounties

[bitter nova]

CLEM

[steady sedge]

I need help getting my damage up.

I'm currently doing Whispers in the Walls and notice my guns do low damage to the level 40+ enemies(excluding my melee, which carries my higher level missions).

I don't really know how to fix this, so guidance would be helpful

[opal leaf]

Show me the build and I might be able to help

[warm obsidian]

Does Garuda need Molt Reconstruct?

[charred gale]

kinda yeah, its rly rly good on her

[carmine ravine]

Is this OK? What other configs can I go for a better build?

[charred gale]

that looks pretty good

btw upgrading ur stance gives more space

ik u dont need it but if you didnt know

[carmine ravine]

ik that, just wanted to save some endo

[charred gale]

alr alr

fair

[carmine ravine]

I'm having issues with dealing with higher level enemies (70+ basically) with that

[charred gale]

if you're building alot of combo u could put on bloodrush

sacrificial mods are also nice but idk if it'll fit or if u have the mod space for them

if you're going against grineer u could use pure corrosive for the extra raw dmg on them cause rn u only have 44% status chance which isnt rly reliable

[carmine ravine]

so what do i swap?

friend has this build

[charred gale]

viral for corrosive and the heat mod for bloodrush

[charred gale]

looks like a melee influence build but hes using melee animosity?

[carmine ravine]

he's using voruna, rest idk

[charred gale]

he should use the arcane melee influence

[cobalt kite]

Guys for Xoris specifically does power throw count as a multiplicative boost to dmg?

Or is it additive to dmg given by mods like pressure point?

[carmine ravine]

like general or specific enemies?

[charred gale]

enemy specific

[old marsh]

multi

[cobalt kite]

Counts for Explosion dmg not just bounce dmg right?

[steady sedge]

(Sorry it took a second)

[old marsh]

additive to the explosion. multi to PPP.

coz explosion gets a different dmg bonus

[cobalt kite]

Bruh

Back to the drawing board ig

I really don’t want to but I think I might have to start using smite mods

[charred gale]

technically u never have to

but ig this is an easy way to get more dmg

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-dont-dont-do-it-no-nope-gif-4384713

[inner raptor]

whats a dog roll for burston riven

cc/cd/and?

[old marsh]

dog roll

[charred gale]

multishot always

best stat in the game

and ofc a harmless negative for the rivem

[inner raptor]

hmm might as well get another for acuity then

[carmine ravine]

is there not a general build?

[charred gale]

ok tbh u could probably use it as a general build

grineer are only the most tanky enemies

[inner raptor]

whats the best element for an acuity burston if with external viral priming? blast?

[opal leaf]

Thormback

Use Point Black instead of Fast Hands

And hopefully you have VItal essence

Uhh for Excal, idk how to mod him cause I use Volt before

Same with broken war. I used SunMoon

Nor Grimoire

[opal leaf]

Just brute force crit base damage

I mean electric is a good one

[wary forge]

Magnetic

[tacit storm]

how should i build a 53 elec livia

i dont have influence

[old marsh]

which arcanes do u have?

[tacit storm]

not a lot

[steady sedge]

Ok thanks. It's hard to mod when you hardly ever find new ones to work with

[old marsh]

then mod it just like melee influence but use Duplicate arcane till u have max rank influence

[tacit storm]

what kinda mods go on influence builds? i havent played in a while

[old marsh]

All electric

[versed harbor]

afflictions is rly good for livia aswell