builds-discussion

[mental night]

(this is wisp prime)

[solar reef]

just generic enemies/crowds

[queen parcel]

but i thought influence doesn't spread slash?

[solar reef]

it spreads evey status applied by the melee

[queen parcel]

and it has pretty bad status

[queen parcel]

so yes or no on slash?

[solar reef]

you dont ever want to build ips of youre asking if you should add slash

unless its some gimmicky doughty build

then you add puncture

maybe i’m confused about your question though

[mental night]

im thinking either Streamline or Stretch can go

[quartz tartan]

so Shedu is good right?

[viscid bane]

Do you really need the augment tho?

you can just place it 3 times

[solar reef]

augment setups want range

streamline is entirely unneeded on wisp

also, once again, got to get rid of dreamers bond

[mental night]

she has NO energy recovery

[solar reef]

archon stretch

also equilibrium exists

[mental night]

its either Dreamers Bond or Sprint Boost lmao

[solar reef]

archon intensify is doing nothing here either

[queen parcel]

it does proc actually

[solar reef]

not if they dont lose health

[mighty flare]

incorrect

[solar reef]

you should never be taking health from the enemies to start

[queen parcel]

turns out the vitality mote increases max health THEN heals

[solar reef]

does it proc on shields????

[queen parcel]

it doesn't no but like if it works why not?

[solar reef]

no but HOW is it working

[queen parcel]

i just told you

[solar reef]

if they arent taking health damage to boot whats the point

[queen parcel]

this is how

wrong one

[queen parcel]

this one

[solar reef]

OH does it like

Heal TO that health

[queen parcel]

yeah

[mental night]

..so am i swapping dreamers bond out with sprint boost or

[queen parcel]

gives max health, THEN it heals

it's why i'd also recomend using arcane bellicose

[solar reef]

get new aura mods

[mental night]

these are all i got

[queen parcel]

aerodynamic could always work

you wanna be up in the air anyway

[solar reef]

combat discipline guarantees 100% up time on archon intensify and opens you up to Arvane Avenger

[mental night]

wrong polarity

[queen parcel]

so it procs the first time, and with combat disipline you can almost have 100% uptime lol

[solar reef]

i knew Discipline stuff

i just thought it immediately put you at that health ammount on Mote

[mental night]

does her passive proc crepuscular?

[solar reef]

yes

[queen parcel]

yes

[mental night]

huh

neat

[solar reef]

glaive/contagion crepescular wisp is the best wisp

[queen parcel]

but honestly i dont recomend it, it only lasts for a second

after landing i mean

unless you wanna go an aerial wisp lol

[mental night]

im putting a lot less thought into this than you guys think i am

i dont really care about min maxing. if it can do well enough in SP, im fine

[solar reef]

then just copy ninjase build lol

[mental night]

die

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/550522/wisp-prime/solar-cataclysm-sol-gate-breach-surge-dps/

[solar reef]

this build also utilizes crepescular through companions

rather than aerial

since you're doing a caster/augment build, Huras/Shade will have near constant uptime on invisibility

also energy sustain through fallout

[novel bear]

Worthy comradery is better

[solar reef]

i am aware

funny spark headshots

[maiden cargo]

hmm archon vit on mirage or more power str
problem i see is rng of explosive ledg you dont get heat 100%
but if it does it doubles stack hmm

[viscid bane]

What's a good way to off load armor stripping to companions without just slotting in corrosive into their weapon

[maiden cargo]

companion rivens / corrosive
ah green shards 2x for max strip
ahh . . . theorem infection double kitgun corrosive elem
aaaahhhhh . . . abilitys helmith etc
aaaaaaahhhhhhh . . . . unariu school
aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh . . . . argonk / shattering impact melee

[fierce lark]

vicious bond Helios with shattering impact probably

[dense belfry]

trying to decide if overcharge or deadheads gonna do be better because at the same time i can just ignore my energy count i have on my warframe and make max use of it
at the same time deadhead exists

[fierce lark]

likely depends on a few things

[dense belfry]

the idea is that ive slapped arcane battery on my valkyr and use burstons truth mod to give me the healing ill need over time

[fierce lark]

can the weapon use aptitude
can it headshot easily
is it a beam
does it care about status

[violet silo]

ur using truth to heal?

[dense belfry]

its a beam, it can headshot easy, its status chance sits at 30 with a fire rate so high you could almost see the smoke
but cant use apittutde due to the incarnon effects

[dense belfry]

it gives 25% health regen yes, i have a shitload of armor

[fierce lark]

for burston overcharge sucks

[dense belfry]

(3350 armor to be exact)

[fierce lark]

half of its damage isn’t affected by multishot and it needs the base damage from deadhead

[violet silo]

why not just kill things

her talons have lifesteal

[dense belfry]

because being a nuker gets boring and burston honestly just feels good

i know her talons ihave lifesteal

[violet silo]

nuker?

[dense belfry]

im trying to build around not using it as a try

aka
forget i have a 4 key for like a few games

[fierce lark]

for the purposes of what you’re doing, chroma would be a lot better

[violet silo]

wait wdym nuking

how are you nuking

[dusty dragon]

oh my god i just unveiled a coda bassocyst riven

[fierce lark]

he doesn’t know what nuking in wf refers to dw

[dense belfry]

dont you f#cking DARE assume what i dont or do know.

oh jesus the idea went right over you melpomens
theres a reason i picked valkyr, i dont like deleting the map all that often
I want a challenge! and i love build crafting, figuring out what could theoertically be better could help a lot.

[maiden cargo]

sad part is 1 dispo

not worth it

[dusty dragon]

fr

[fierce lark]

i mean referring to anything valkyr does as a nuke is just

not what a nuke is lol

[dense belfry]

bullwark was a attempt but ive learned deadhead just hits harder

[dusky bane]

0,60 is tragic, yea, but it IS a new weapon, so I guess that's fair

[dense belfry]

so its why im lookin at overcharge to just be curious

[fierce lark]

bulwark is just better than deadhead tho

(if you can stay above the max armor)

[violet silo]

...but how are you nuking

[fierce lark]

also “i want a challenge” after saying “im using burston incarnon” lol

[dense belfry]

i start at double the armor required so thats no big deal with valkyr (and kullervo, used to main him)

[dense belfry]

oh my-
nuking as in deleting the map of enemies in one big blast, hence why i pick VALKYR to NOT do that

[dense belfry]

the challenge is build craftnig, sir.

[fierce lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[violet silo]

oh okay, you arent nuking with valkyr
I understand now

[fierce lark]

you’re gonna have a hard time finding a way to build burston that doesn’t delete everything in front of it

[dense belfry]

well i know of burstons strengths, its a pretty fun wepaon all things considered having used like, 5 other strong weapons before it.
trying to figure a way to make the weapon itself the strongest it can get is a great feeling

ive tried to do similar here with the ax52 (without biotic) and a personal old weapon of mine being the Bronco incarnon (of course on a prime.)

if i had the simulacrum i woulda gotten this question answered myself since i have the rank 5 of most of the well known arcanes (minus the legendarys ignoring energize i just got that from BotB)

[fierce lark]

underframe

maths website hf

[fair swan]

Does anyone have a bubonico build for me to use rivenless

[dense belfry]

i didint know that existed! thank you.

[old marsh]

What’s the Bubonico proj and bonus this time from Eleanor?

[solar reef]

almost every bubonico build should be rivenless

coda bubo has literally the lowest possible riven disposition

[fierce lark]

26% tox

or smth

[fair swan]

So a 1/5 riven dispo

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tears-of-joy-tears-happiness-kevin-hart-crying-gif-18835009

[solar reef]

dont use blips

[fierce lark]

0.5

[fair swan]

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE

[solar reef]

use its actual dispo multi

[fierce lark]

every gun releases with 0.5 riven dispo

riven disposition is used as a means to "balance" guns that are bad/unpopular. all new weapons release with the bare minimum. if DE has determined the guns are either bad or nobody uses them, they'll increase the disposition over time, usually with every prime access

[fair swan]

So torid gets a 5/5 cuz is "bad"

[fierce lark]

by an additional 0.05 typically per patch, but sometimes more

[solar reef]

torid itself is terrible

[fierce lark]

torid has a high disopsition because it was bad

[old marsh]

Old

[cobalt kite]

Guys is focus energy or killing blow better on the xoris?

[old marsh]

KB

Wind up speed is a much better QoL imo

[solar reef]

but yeah how DE handles dispo is pretty attrocious

its not a hot take to think that

[cobalt kite]

tytytyty

[old marsh]

Guessing Explosion build?

[fierce lark]

incarnon genesis came out to do the same thing riven disposition does. buff old useless guns.

the thing is, DE absolutely will not nerf riven disposition under any circumstances. because people pay hundreds of dollars worth of plat for some of these rivens, and making the rivens worse suddenly would be a massive kick to them

[solar reef]

most weapons wont see noticable dispo change

[fierce lark]

so that results in some already op guns like burston, torid, dual tox having obnoxiously high disposition on top of a busted incarnon

[solar reef]

Coda Bubo will probably never make it past 0.70x

[fair swan]

What element should i put on bub

[fierce lark]

progenitor? magnetic

[old marsh]

Thought Torid was 4/5 dispo

[fierce lark]

torid is like 1.2 iirc

1.3 even, but yes it's 4/5

[solar reef]

its 1.30

so yeah 4/5

[fair swan]

Alr ty

U got a build for it then?

[fierce lark]

burston prime is 1.35 and is among the highest valued riven market in the game

[old marsh]

Quick of u to use ❌

[solar reef]

riven dispo goes in 20’s

[solar reef]

im so used to it atp

its taken place of my check mark

[fair swan]

Burston is better than torid trust

[old marsh]

how about Magistar?

[solar reef]

they have different niches

[quiet laurel]

tbh its easy plat but the plat ceiling is pretty low
the highest valued ones are for weapons that are used in meta strats and meta gamemodes

[solar reef]

not really all that comparable

[fierce lark]

it is, like it's a lot better

[old marsh]

1.35

[cobalt kite]

Yeah, also do I NEED volatile quick return? Does it help with melee influence procs?

[fierce lark]

torid clears trash faster, burston kills anything in the game about as fast as torid kills sp infested trash

including lvlcap grineer

[old marsh]

The one with + radius is what u want

[solar reef]

Burston is a ST weapon that also excels at minor AOE
Torid is an AOE weapon that also does fine at ST

They just have different uses

[fierce lark]

burston also annihilates aoe but enemies have to be in a line xd

punch through good

[old marsh]

Meet Laetum & Furis. Best at everything

[cobalt kite]

kk

[timber sparrow]

introduces rivens with disposition so it isnt worth it on every weapon like the already popular ones (theoretically less used ones get more disp)
doesnt apply it to the most used high dispo weapons

[solar reef]

they won’t change their dispos for 2 reasons

A: Money
B: Their incarnoffs still need high dispo

[fierce lark]

the mistake they made was not resetting the riven disposition for incarnon weapons

adding an incarnon genesis to a gun is the same as adding a new gun

[solar reef]

every weapon should start at 1.0x dispo

[timber sparrow]

incarnon disposition

[old marsh]

Man I wish they buff dispos of lesser used weapons. I got Orthos & my god does it need a buff with dispo

[fierce lark]

without the MR gain

[timber sparrow]

https://tenor.com/mIaN8S3JWPC.gif

[old marsh]

needs like WA to take it to ETA

[fierce lark]

the way they do rivens right now is fine, they just screwed up with incarnons

[old marsh]

Just stealth nerf Torid by 10% every update. No one will know

[fierce lark]

i mean

that's just true lol

groll torid riven probably doesn't change how it functions much

you'll see less red numbers and get salty

[old marsh]

add a crit resist parameter into the code for specific weapons

They will think it’s just bad luck

[velvet pulsar]

Basically

[hallow ibex]

im going for a melee influence build with kullervo and okina prime, i think im done with the okina for the most part but for kullervo im going to forma more so i can add shock trooper and rolling guard (obv after i subsume shock to his 4th) any suggestions to make the build better?

[solar reef]

dual ichor mains stay winning

[cobalt kite]

Which one do you guys think is better?

[velvet pulsar]

I went to watch YouTube

[solar reef]

why would you use reach on a glaive

[fierce lark]

range does nothing on glaives btw

well, it does something for the light attack, but you don't ever light attack with glaives

[timber sparrow]

to increase your throwing strength cuz your warframe is weak

[fierce lark]

second build is good tho

[cobalt kite]

oops meant to put pressure point there

[fierce lark]

replace pp with sac p

[old marsh]

Yes. Your build is lacking ||Kullervo Prime || & range. For Okina, u sure u wanna use those elements?

[hallow ibex]

suggest other things if there’s better alternatives, i haven’t played since the new war came out basically

heavy on the kullervo prime

[timber sparrow]

is finisher damage a dump stat on melees

[velvet pulsar]

Usually

[hallow ibex]

unless you use a dagger loki build ig lol

[novel bear]

Or ash

[old marsh]

Viral electric and use 90 mod for electric for better weighting for Influence

[hallow ibex]

range would definitely be nice lol

[old marsh]

Works. Can always use stormbringer in last slot

[hallow ibex]

instead of?

[novel bear]

Just do standard crabsweat for okina

Ignore the cold on the spectral daggers

[old marsh]

Voltaic strike. Last slot

[hallow ibex]

o you mean shocking touch

[velvet pulsar]

Cow barfed on a crab and it sweated.

[old marsh]

Ye. My b. Stormbringer is the rifle one lol

[hallow ibex]

shocking touch puts my status from 70-50% and elec from 216-271

[old marsh]

Ye. As the guys said. Go full electric. That works too

[velvet pulsar]

Do u not remember Teshin quest?

[novel bear]

That riven is not worth using

[velvet pulsar]

[old marsh]

No coz I never played it

[hallow ibex]

i’m tired of rolling that damn riven

[velvet pulsar]

Same

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-elsa-disney-disney-princess-queen-gif-3597315

[velvet pulsar]

I should stop wasting kuva on Bubonico riven

[hallow ibex]

sooo do i replace the riven with primed reach and go full electric?

[old marsh]

Reach

[hallow ibex]

feels sad not using the riven

[dense belfry]

now its not gonna effect dps any im more askin yall for curiosity sake
which exillus mod do yall recomend for rifles? if i dont have it i can try to look for it
assuming general purpous

[novel bear]

Berserker fury over voltaic strike

[hallow ibex]

any thoughts on the kullervo?

[hallow ibex]

.

[novel bear]

Arcane truculence isn’t that good
I’d use augmented or strike instead

Why archon continuity instead of primed?

And once you get some forma on I’d put equilibrium over streamline

[hallow ibex]

augmented, primed continuity, and equilibrium got it

[velvet pulsar]

If my ichor is built for gas magnetic vortex, do I want forced gas or forced magnetic from Valence Formation?

[hallow ibex]

truculence and archon continuity for viral and corrosive spread but idk how good that’ll actually be if my main focus is melee influence electric anyway

[novel bear]

Archon cont isn’t doing anything because you don’t have any abilities doing toxic procs

[hallow ibex]

just read the ability lol i’m dumb

[novel bear]

Truculence just sounds better than it is, there are better ways to viral prime in practice

[hallow ibex]

hmmmokay

the shock trooper idea still good?

[novel bear]

It’s fine
Roar would be a bigger damage buff, it triple dips for influence procs

But shock trooper is a decent buff

[novel bear]

Gas

[hallow ibex]

i already have roar subsumed i’m actually building a volt to subsume so maybe i just do roar instead

[velvet pulsar]

Thx

[violet silo]

shock trooper helps trigger elec and gives build space
idk if its better but its def nice to have

[gritty hound]

What's better for priming, tazicor or helstrum?

[velvet pulsar]

I don't need to use rank 0 Valence Formation in that case right?

[velvet pulsar]

Tazicor

[novel bear]

No

[hallow ibex]

i’m just tryna do a melee influence build with okina and kullervo so idk

[novel bear]

The space it clears would be best used for a faction mod
Like roar
And it needs a mod slot on the frame

[hallow ibex]

so if i’m replacing streamline with equilibrium that still leaves two mod slots

[novel bear]

Probably just more strength, duration, or range

[solar reef]

pretty much the only times its worth using shock trooper as a subsume are if the weapon itself is a hassle to proc influence with

such as hate or syam

[hallow ibex]

i could subsume roar to my 4th and use precision intensify lol

[abstract axle]

not worth since you want strength on the 1, and arguably on 3

of course, you'll probably cap 3 anyways since its at 200

[fierce lark]

i think it's good on gyre if you don't have elec shards

and are playing weapons

the dmg bonus from her 1 aug doesn't apply to the elec dots, so having a bunch of modded elec helps a lot

[abstract axle]

while I see the line, I feel like gyre needs a survival inject

[fierce lark]

i run roar as is and i have 0 issues surviving, circumvent solos

[hallow ibex]

do i need to go higher than 270% strength?

[fierce lark]

most of the things that don't have og are being cced by rotorswell anyways

[hallow ibex]

i have archon intensify which wouldn’t proc, umbral, or augur secrets

[raven turret]

Guys should I build my magistar with radiation?

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-peggle-puzz-mid-video-high-gif-553759000954454273

[gritty hound]

Did they fix that one bug that made valence formation not buff gas dot?

[sudden plank]

so for gyre im running ninjas build and i wanna run influence with it what melee would work well?

[simple frost]

opinion on my grendel build?

[mighty flare]

theres list in here of notable stuff: #1477881092093640827 message

[north peak]

basically any melee can work with influence so long as you can get electric damage onto it (or onto a diriga) - i would just use whatever melee has a moveset you like, but if you dont have a preference i'd try out venato prime with the augment that just came out

[sudden plank]

well i wanted to see if i could change my glaive p into it

[north peak]

yeah you totally could, but i think xoris might be a better glaive for influence since it's detonations already for electric damage - meaning you can mod it for other elements and just rely on the detonations to proc afflictions

[sudden plank]

i know but i have glaive p riven 🙁

[sudden plank]

ty for this btw

[north peak]

then nothing is stopping you from using glaive anyways - just need to be aware you need something to proc influence, either electric damage on the glaive or electric damage from a diriga

[north peak]

pretty ok - you should swap places with overextended and steel fiber for more starting capacity tho

[sudden plank]

what would you switch

[simple frost]

Alr thanks i have no idea how i didnt notice that

[solar reef]

whats on the riven

[slender summit]

Could I possibly request a build for Hate now that Burning Hate is available once again?

[solar reef]

ts aint even worth slotting

[wary forge]

Glaive prime isn’t even worth in the big 2026

Just falcor brotato chip

[solar reef]

its an excuse to use duplicate

[wary forge]

They just nerfed glaive prime to much

[north peak]

ok so if you intend on using the glaive prime frequently...

i'd swap sacrifical steel for galvanized steel (less crit chance, but more crit damage per kill)
corrupt charge for galvanized reflex (lets you throw more frequently and gives you more initial combo per kill)
aaaand you could probably swap out primed pressure point for shocking touch (killing blow and your riven is already giving you some base damage)
and gladiator might for voltaic strike for more status chance

[sudden plank]

ty sir

[solar reef]

i’d just build it for duplicate

[north peak]

he may just prefer glaive p for how it looks/sounds/etc - falcor/xoris are definitely the better influence glaives

[solar reef]

trying to force it into influence just isnt as comfortable

[magic cargo]

hey guys its outdated to run the laetum with only viral and heat?

[solar reef]

its one of like 2 weapons where duplicate is actually viable anyways

[sudden plank]

im very aware xoris is better but im stuck in my ways lol

[solar reef]

no thats still the generalist set up

[magic cargo]

i saw some other setups with radiaton, corrosive and heat and i wondered wich is better

[solar reef]

you really shouldnt be modding for rad
corrosive is used when you have external viral priming

[magic cargo]

so nourish or the panzer vulp?

[solar reef]

in those cases, yes

unless you have a warframe with armor stripping

If you can reliable armor strip and prime viral without your weapon, its free game for whatever else you want

[wary forge]

Some people go the rad mod for secondaries you wouldnt actually mod for it

There’s just that one mod that has rad and fire rate I think

[magic cargo]

and what if i use uriel and cascadia flare on it?

[magic cargo]

yeah 40%

[solar reef]

i’d just use viral

[magic cargo]

yeah but it has viral and heat

[solar reef]

if you’re getting viral through your frame then use corrosive

this has already been stated

unless said frame is also armor stripping

in which case you’d have to figure something else out

[magic cargo]

ok i got it

thank you

[wary forge]

It’s corrosive heat over viral heat for the most part since secondaries have both primed convulsion and heated charge

[north peak]

yeah that'll do okay for a throwing/detonating influence setup

[sturdy walrus]

Does anyone have a good voruna prime build?

[mighty flare]

theres examples in here: #1492606866482794601 message

[peak crown]

what sword you can suggest for Uriel?

[abstract axle]

how literal is sword here? are machetes fine? dual swords? nikanas? or just actually swords. At any rate, uriel doesn't have any particular synergies, so its just gonna be pick strong melees

[peak crown]

dual swords or two handed :p

[wary forge]

Take out volt strike for elementalist

[abstract axle]

best dual swords are dual ichor incarnon. best heavy blade that looks like a sword (they aren't their own class) is probably tenet exec?

[peak crown]

alas i have no incarnon for dual ichor but i use ichors rn

daggers also fine but i have only 9 rank

i think about getting Hepheri when i will reach 12 rank

[weary elbow]

checking some Garuda builds on overframe I saw Kavat Grace as exilus to prevent hard landing. Then I read this from a ninjase build: Kavats Grace - prevents hard landings after using 4 and sometimes 3 and what it is on the

My question is. How 4 and 3 do hard landing? I don't know what I'm missing. Reading the paragraph from the picture, I still don't get it. I'm playing her a bit and those skills don't skyrocket you. Is this something not updated that she was changed in some update or something?

[abstract axle]

if dual daggers are also good, okina prime is pretty good and has an incarnon you can get later that makes it nuts

[dusky bane]

consistently pressing them makes you go high enough to stagger on landing

[peak crown]

if there's something good without incarnon?

[weary elbow]

but they have some kind of knockback animation? I really don't see any abilty making me go high

[dusky bane]

glaives
okina prime, rumblejack, basically any generically good melee, but with elec

[abstract axle]

any newish prime

also, broken war is more than serviceable and you got it for free

[peak crown]

what about dark split sword? xD

[abstract axle]

no.

[peak crown]

why?

[dusky bane]

it just isn't good

[peak crown]

why it's isn't good?

[dusky bane]

it doesn't have good stats

[peak crown]

Gram?

[dusky bane]

prime's solid

[peak crown]

Skana prism?

Fangs?

[dusky bane]

prisma skana's the best currently available sword (with incarnon)

[dusky bane]

fang prime's kinda okayish

[abstract axle]

in 3 steps, low damage, innate radiation is almost a downside, and either bad status in dual blades or bad crit stats in heavy

[dusky bane]

ok yeah, I agree, it's pretty hard to hard land with her

[wraith sinew]

Why do people use furax wraith with secondary outburst?

[peak crown]

well when i can get good incarnon for ichors?

[crimson cedar]

in 2 weeks

[abstract axle]

innate combo on the weapon, plus it can build combo super fast with incarnon

[wraith sinew]

Ah cool, so is it used as dps, buffing secondary, or both?

[dusky bane]

it doesn't have initial combo

[nova swift]

yea you just use something like vazarin to group up enemies on the ground, ground finisher them all and build up combo with melee crescendo. Makes furax wraith a really good secondary stat stick cause it also have fire rate

[dusky bane]

oh, it does, just not on incarnon?
that's dumb lol

[abstract axle]

incarnons (specifically incarnons genesis) are available in a weekly rotation, with 5 available every week.

[dusky bane]

lowkey I'd rather dex nikana

lower effort, but requires slight upkeep

[abstract axle]

furax wraith itself has innate combo, and has had it longer than incarnons have existed 🙂

[wraith sinew]

So it can be a stat stick or dps

[dusky bane]

wouldn't know, I didn't use bad weapons back then

[abstract axle]

dealers choice really. It also has amalgam furax body count which grants secondary fire rate

[nova swift]

also kind of depends on what you are building for though, someone like hildryn or jade would much rather like ruvox/okina prime for the movespeed then the firerate on the furax

[wraith sinew]

Ohh true

[abstract axle]

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud-yelling-cloud-angry-gif-12558964

[wraith sinew]

I’m looking at mesa

[abstract axle]

The Lesion was meta defining. Meta Defining!!

[weary elbow]

Throwing abilities after bullet jump really high, I can kind of understand the stuff about the hard landings, but to be honest, it's impossible to do it unless you are sleeping. You can just jump or aim glide before touching ground

[nova swift]

for mesa I'd pick furax, the firerate is nice. Even if you dont run outburst its a nice bonus

[dusky bane]

or slide

[dusky bane]

lesion I liked
it's still a cool underrated pick vs corpus

[wraith sinew]

Also if I navigator a xoris can I still explode it

[nova swift]

so this is a patch related thing, before casting 4 after a normal jump gave you a hard landing but no real time to aim glide or slide. They increased the hard landing height for her so its less needed now

[dusky bane]

I'd assume so

[wraith sinew]

Would I just have to instantly click after navigator ends

[weary elbow]

Okey, i was suspecting that. Sometimes ninjase don't touch much the stuff on their build descriptions or miss something

thanks for the info

[dusky bane]

shit, you're right
also my wooda doesn't even have enough cast speed to fart before landing, her 4 takes too long

[dusky bane]

can't you click it WHILE in navigator?

[wraith sinew]

Wait….

Idk maybe

I haven’t tried it yet

[dusky bane]

yeah, you can

[wraith sinew]

Neato

I see lots of possibilities with that ability

[weary elbow]

Still about Garud. So if I have her passive at 100%, she does more damage with everything? Both her charged 1 and weapons?

[dusky bane]

it even works on archguns

[wraith sinew]

I hear fluctus works great

[dusky bane]

it's a decent choice

[weary elbow]

wtf is that

a glaive with ivara arrow ability?

[thorn spindle]

?

[cinder burrow]

What should i change in this build to put the riven? I’m using lavos with valence formation

[dusky bane]

correct

[dusky bane]

probably g.steel, but I'm not sure your riven's better

no wait

blood rush

[cinder burrow]

Consider that i’m trying to roll it and find status duration in replcement of status chance

[cinder burrow]

Something like this??

[dusky bane]

I guess

I don't do slam builds so I'm not too sure

[near vortex]

What is bro going for

[cinder burrow]

A slam gas build with lavos

[near vortex]

Why even bother with gas afflictions

You're running MAGISTAR

[eternal glacier]

Guys

Is this only for me?

Just check warm coat price

[cinder burrow]

They told me to run gas cause it was fun whay should i run influence?

What*

[near vortex]

No, you run exposure and build around one shotting anything

You have a riven

Probably should keep rolling the riven

It's kinda cooked

[cinder burrow]

I know

I’m trying

[near vortex]

Magistar with riven is renowned for being like
The single strongest thing you could possibly run

I don't know how the build changes on Sancti vs base magistar

[cinder burrow]

So, what should i change other then the arcane?

[near vortex]

Most people use base, I'm picking up a second adapter when it comes around

You don't want lasting sting, that slots kinda useless

It's very close to a normal Magistar build

You want like organ shatter I think

[latent adder]

Bruh is lavos

[near vortex]

Are you running any purples

[latent adder]

Use gas

[cinder burrow]

I’m using lavos

[latent adder]

You'll get 30s gas clouds

Constantly nuking the map in your absence

[near vortex]

Lavos does gas afflictions over normal Magistar build?

[latent adder]

Yes

[near vortex]

I know Lavos is John Zawfluence but didn't realize he did gas shenanigans too

[latent adder]

Cuz it makes 7 stack gas clouds lasting 30s dealing millions of dmg

[cinder burrow]

Soooo guys, what should i play? Lol

[latent adder]

Nothing else has that much synergy with all of lavos

Influence doesnt take advantage of status duration

[latent adder]

For magistar, gas

For other weapons like syam, electric influence

[cinder burrow]

Then, this is good for lavos gas ? Or should i change something

[dusky bane]

some guy set up a fake price and clicked "sold"

[queen parcel]

how does duration scale on lavos anyway? i have primed continuity on him but i feel like there's not much of a differance

[latent adder]

It scales directly with duration

So at 200 dur 6s is 12s

[queen parcel]

most of his status runs out before i can use the 4

[latent adder]

Exactly, only gas makes a diffefence

Cuz all statuses expire when enemies die normally

[queen parcel]

so only gas gets a duration increase?

[latent adder]

No they all get an increase but what is living past 2s

[queen parcel]

...fair

[thorn spindle]

I take off the serration and put on galvanized scope?

[dusky bane]

which evo are you buiilding for

[solar reef]

you dont need serration and cannonade together

[thorn spindle]

crit i think...

[thorn spindle]

i use it with saryn

[dusky bane]

https://overframe.gg/build/467626/

this I guess

[formal tusk]

Chat how to build

Kuva sobek for general use, toxin progenitor

[solar reef]

what frame is this for

[opal leaf]

The progenitor doesn't matter

But Magnet is mostly used

A lot of times I've been told to mod it with pure electricity

Question is do you have a Frame that can use it properly?

[formal tusk]

General use tbh, any frame

[solar reef]

dont use it on any frame

its pretty mediocre for those who cant synergize with it

[opal leaf]

It'll be the one of the weakest gun you'll ever use

Only a selective frames can use it

[formal tusk]

Oh so it only works with certain frames?

[opal leaf]

Yes

[formal tusk]

And here i thought i could use it on sevagoth when i run out of energy 🥀

[opal leaf]

Outside the certain frames, it's just a normal pre SP shotgun

[opal leaf]

You can use another gun

[formal tusk]

Probably

Js wanted some range tomfoolery

Or rather, aoe

Ion suppose any on this list can use it

[solar reef]

uriel

off the rip, do you even understand why the sobek is used?

[opal leaf]

^

[dusky bane]

uriel kinda
but not nearly as well as cyte/saryn

[solar reef]

If the warframe isnt on this list dont even consider using it

[formal tusk]

Acid shells, aoe clearing

[solar reef]

alright that makes things easier

Certain abilities can make Acid shells hit twice

[dusky bane]

xaku's shit too

you kinda need the DoT from that second hit

[solar reef]

often times that second hit being even stronger than the initial hit

[formal tusk]

In a nutshell, screw sobek as a mastery fodder

Until i get a saryn

Or rather, a saryn prime

[near vortex]

No Zephyr no Garuda

[dusky bane]

saryn or cyte

[solar reef]

garuda is there

[near vortex]

Oh they do have Garuda there

[dusky bane]

garuda's there, although I never heard of anyone use sobek on her
I can imagine it working OKAYish

[mossy jewel]

Hi everyone looking for friends to have fun with in warframe
If you could do message me

[solar reef]

Zephyr isnt mentioned because zephyr doesnt do what is mentioned in that note

[dusky bane]

zephyr sobek works for completely different reasons

[near vortex]

It works but you have to use 4 often

[west radish]

yo

[near vortex]

They have Uriel on there but tbh it's not great

[formal tusk]

Although a friend of mine found a way to trigger acid shells, without shooting with sobek. Something related to thalys

[west radish]

how do i change my rewards from circuit

incarnon ones

[dusky bane]

lmao thalys is a mess

[dusky bane]

oraxia's in the same boat

[near vortex]

It works great on Oraxia

Oraxia has toxin shards and a bigger lash to start with

[solar reef]

have you already selected

[near vortex]

Uriel has neither of those and also no Roar like Saryn does

[dusky bane]

overstatement of the century

it works, not great

and the base % is irrelevant when you can in theory heat inherit it

[near vortex]

You can also de-inherit it

[tidal parrot]

what shards do people typically put on hildryn?

[near vortex]

Strength

[dusky bane]

yes, horrific mechanic

[west radish]

sadly

[solar reef]

then you cant

[west radish]

best acolyte priamry killer then?

[near vortex]

Strun Latron off the top of my head

[solar reef]

furis is right there

[west radish]

primary

im using ocucor second

[undone dust]

use saryn and kill acos with ocucor, easy

[rancid coral]

what stats should I focus on for caliban prime?

[west radish]

you think its possible to kill acolytes when you get like that magnetic status

fast enough to not die xD

[west radish]

im voltmaxxing

[faint hatch]

Silly, probably outdated question, but does anyone have an up to date eidolon build for Trinity? I've got some friends that are just going to start learning Eidolons and I told them I'm only going to play passive/support so they have to actually learn/figure it out

Has anything even changed for Trinity in regards to eidolon since like 5 years ago?

[near vortex]

It kinda sucks into acolytes tbh

I have it built out for units that don't have a status cap

[oblique junco]

odd question: are there any weapons/weapon builds that can hurt the user? i know blast can knock you over but idk abt properly doing dmg to yourself

[cobalt kite]

Someone give me a nataruk build to shred enemies in steel path

Im feeling violent today

[opal leaf]

Go full on Blast on them bish

[magic cargo]

what i could use to melt the distruption special enemies on SP?

[opal leaf]

A heavy hitting one

I use Nataruk, Burston, Fckin.... Fulmin Prime, Trumna Prime

[magic cargo]

fulmin prime?

[turbid relic]

Can anyone help me with nataruk build?

i just do auto build but idk if i can improve it

[opal leaf]

Ye, that one hits HEAVY

[leaden thistle]

Caliban's Sentient Wrath works on 'em to both stop them from running and give weakness. Then something shotgunny probably, like a Corinth / Prime

[turbid relic]

got it to this

[opal leaf]

Remove infected clip for Critical delay

[magic cargo]

i mean mine is good but it dosent hit that heavy

[turbid relic]

am i a noob for thinking total = more dmg => better?

[opal leaf]

Please tell me you use Semi mode only

[magic cargo]

yeah ofc

[opal leaf]

Good

So I suspect you use Gapt (Galvanized Aptitude) on Fulmin

[magic cargo]

i do

here is my build

[magic cargo]

whats wrong with that tho?

[opal leaf]

No, it's ok, Fulmin wants that

[magic cargo]

so what should i change to make it do more dmg?

[opal leaf]

Obv remove Internal bleeding,

Let me see the whole build

[magic cargo]

oh mb

[magic cargo]

here

[solar reef]

and merciless for dead head

[opal leaf]

Do what Malz said

[magic cargo]

ok ok

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/511115/fulmin-prime/the-fulminator-semi-auto-viral-electric-variants-updated-2025/

[turbid relic]

ive gotten it to this

[magic cargo]

should i go for shred for more punch through or speed trigger?

[turbid relic]

any more tips?

[solar reef]

follow the ninjase build

hes better at optimizing than me

[opal leaf]

Tbh, how do you really "Optimize" a build?

Is there like a set of rules?

[elfin sluice]

there are general guidelines, but they fall apart sometimes for specific weapons

[opal leaf]

I see

[elfin sluice]

e. g. vastilok slotting [Shattering Impact] when it's usually otherwise a dud pick since the thing has a crapton of multishot to make it armorstrip fast

[leaden thistle]

Yeah a little bit, because you're not accounting for Critical multipliers or what Statuses do.

For example, you have a Crit chance of 100%, guaranteed critical and a Crit Multiplier of 2.5. All damage you do from base is multiplied by 2.5x now. Would you rather add 60% base damage? Or 120% Crit Multiplier?
On a 100 damage weapon, that is either 400 Crit damage (100 +60% x 2.5) or 550 damage (100 x 5.5) total but you won't see the number reflected on the Total stat in the menu

Or you can mod Viral into a weapon and double the damage from applying 1 stack even if the total base damage is lower. Or consider Corrosive to remove an enemy's 90% Damage reduction to kill them faster that way (Grineer are a major example)

Also consider the damage type even without statuses because an enemy weak to that damage takes an additional 50% more damage from that type. Like a Grineer taking 150 damage from a corrosive weapon that deals 100 damage.

If you have access to the Simulacrum at Cephalon Simaris in the relays, go try out weapon damage there. Also gives you a reason to scan as many enemies as possible to add them as test dummies to the simulacrum

[turbid relic]

what happens if i have crit chance over 100?

[fierce lark]

you have a chance to roll a second tier crit, which will show as orange

[turbid relic]

so more dmg?

[fierce lark]

ye, each tier will multiply your crit dmg an additional time

[turbid relic]

ok nice

[fierce lark]

so if your crit dmg is 4x, regular crits will do 4x damage, and orange crits will do 8x damage, etc

[solar reef]

if you have 120% CC, for example, you have an 80% chance of base crits, and a 20% chance for tier 2 crits

if you have 240% cc, you have a 60% chance of tier 2 crits, and a 40% chance of tier 3 crits

there is no limit to crit tiers but the visual limit is tier 6, or red!!!

[turbid relic]

ok ok

so what if cc is 180 i have 80% chance for t2 crits?

[latent adder]

u just plug everything into a calculator

all builds follow the same general rules of maths

eventually though some mod choices only change the DPS by like 10% but drastically alter the way it feels in game

so utimately it does come down to how it plays in game

[opal leaf]

Oof

Math is not my major

What "General rules of Math" are we talking about?

[latent adder]

addition and multiplication lol

[opal leaf]

Fck XDDD

Aight fair since all damage goes either additive or multiplicative

[latent adder]

like (1+A+B) x ( 1+ C+D)

[turbid relic]

?

[latent adder]

if A is really big u dont want a B

you should put some C and D instead

[opal leaf]

Yeah this shit is something I cannot understand XDD trust me, math is my lowest subject...

What do you mean by this

[fierce lark]

you want to combine different sources of increasing your damage, because they will multiply together rather than adding together

[latent adder]

so (1+9) x (1+1) = what

20

[opal leaf]

Oh

[latent adder]

now compare that to (1+5) x (1+5)

[opal leaf]

So that's the formula

[latent adder]

36
36>20

if you balance out each bracket you will reach highest number

[opal leaf]

Ohh

Damn I'm writing this down literally

[latent adder]

warframe dmg formula is really simple its just dmg x (1+dmg) x (1+multishot) x ( 1+fr) x (1+whatever)

[opal leaf]

I assume Fr is fire rate correct?

[latent adder]

yeah

[opal leaf]

Aight, so I'll just input the damages there and count from there

[latent adder]

well u dont have to do it manually yourself

calculators exist like underframe

its the most reliable calculator atm afaik

made by a friend

[opal leaf]

I see

If that's the case in underframe, do I always need to link my warframe? Or the ones who is going to use the weapons?

[opal leaf]

I suspect it's your friend hahaha

[latent adder]

u can link the warframe for easy buff management

[opal leaf]

Hmmm gotcha

Thanks BTW!

[sharp portal]

Why are we talking about Math

Damage now is Pi?

[bold estuary]

damage is math yeah everything runs off formulas in this and are (mostly) consistent with using them

[uncut axle]

what do yall subsume onto frost, curious to know what other people got going on

[near vortex]

People like Breach Surge because it benefits from Biting Frost

[uncut axle]

ik thats the biggest one i hear about

i use airburst for grouping

a little weird but i find it pretty fun

[leaden thistle]

Correct~

180% Crit chance is 100% Crit and 80% chance to Big Crit

Crits are yellow, Big crits are orange, Super crits are red, and tiers above that add exclamation marks up to 3 times. It can be considered a crit tier above that, but there is no visual indicator beyond the three !!!

[opal leaf]

O m a m o r i....

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-gif-5676038700371371386

[granite steppe]

How the arcane hot shot works ?

[valid plaza]

Is there any frame who actually could use Lycanth's Hunt subsume?

[old marsh]

all melee frames

[opal leaf]

Can I use that for.... GUS????

[old marsh]

sure i think

[inner raptor]

anyone with a burston build for bosses like TFO with ads and those without ads so no stacks?

[celest moss]

How good or bad is this? The crit chance and slash feel GREAT but idk how I feel about that minus combo count (though, I must clarify that I plan to use the war with kullervo and also naramon)

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[celest moss]

So, bad?

[old marsh]

u want crit dmg above anything. 2nd slot is flex. CC is a bad roll if using with kullervo coz wrathful advance exists

[celest moss]

Fair

Alr, I'll keep what I had before (it gave nothing but extra stats)

Which of these is better for my uses?

I assume the Pleci-scitis

[old marsh]

still no. CC Slide is a bad stat. its actually a very good negative

how much kuva u got?

[celest moss]

Wait, really?

[celest moss]

84.6k rn

[old marsh]

plz stop

[opal leaf]

Ooo :3

[old marsh]

dont invest any further till u have a million

War is a mid weapon. investing heavy into it is not worth your kuva

[fresh hollow]

guys, does it really matter what antigen and mutagen i put on vulpaphyla or i can just put based on looks

[celest moss]

I mean, fair, I just HATE messing with rivens usually and it's a riven I have for a weapon I like

[old marsh]

it does but for the most part u just want the vulpaphyla so simply pick the one u have enough resources to craft

[old marsh]

u can but u will get like 23+ more rolls on it. not worth it imo

[opal leaf]

Me? Wrong reply

[old marsh]

your fault for butting in the convo. i just replied after my comment

[opal leaf]

Aight good point, mb mb hahaha

[mighty flare]

Looks

[modern sable]

anyone got thoughts on using dual zorren for mobility when using rolling guard? been using it and it feels pretty good to be able to get a quick burst of movement without spending my rg

[signal blade]

Coda sporothrix says 0 punch through with a lock icon next to it

But the volatile variant augment says +3 punch through but still doesnt show on the stats on the left

So if I have that augment and add punch through from another source, only the augment gives the +3? Or does punch through get silently enabled once the augment is on there (bc it affects the projectile)

[dull laurel]

is hildryn just unusable against infested?

[mighty flare]

No

[granite ginkgo]

it because u cant survive from tox proc?

[dull laurel]

because they dont have shields to steal

ive tried blazing pillage and its not enough

[granite ginkgo]

wdym? it still proc pillage regen shield

[granite ginkgo]

mind share ur build

what pet did u use?

[dull laurel]

i replaced blazing pillage with adaptation because it feels useless

i use a panzer

[granite ginkgo]

for once u dont need adaptation, 2nd why most ur mod and arcane isnt max rank yet?

[dull laurel]

because i don't own enough arcane copies to max them

or endo to max them

[signal blade]

Does anyone know

[granite ginkgo]

here you should do,

• Focus on finishing questline until The Old Peace
• Play descendia and buy the remaining copies of expertise arcane via npc
• Go play the new event belly of the beast, and max rank aegis from it
• either keep adaptation or swap with augur reach/or rolling guards
• get Raksa kubrow for mecha build and lazy shield gate

[dull laurel]

i have descendia i just spent this weeks currency on another arcane

[granite ginkgo]

you do know the item is grindable, it preferable game content to get arcane non stop

[dull laurel]

yea but i don't wanna do that i'll get it next week

[granite ginkgo]

best one is to get from treasure level

[dull laurel]

there's no rush

[granite ginkgo]

did u done normal version? it at least u can get the rest of copies

[dull laurel]

my issue is not survival it's getting enough shields to upkeep aegis

[sullen axle]

Which riven should I choose

[granite ginkgo]

left is better

FR or MS increased dps further

[dull laurel]

raksa i heard is good, aegis is nice and i might max it eventually but i tried it and it doesn't proc consistently enough to upkeep aegis in infested

raksa i think sounds more useful for this

[granite ginkgo]

try get to R3, then see the diff

[dull laurel]

it's the proc chance that is inconsistent and that doesn't change with rank

[granite ginkgo]

if prefer more dps via balefire i might swap aegis with arcane velocity

[old marsh]

ye. just keep your raksa alive. it will keep regening your shields

[granite ginkgo]

issues is ur arcane expertise to max rank is needed

[old marsh]

have decent efficiency too so u pretty much never run out of shields

[dull laurel]

ill have to try and get a raksa and see

expertise is definitely gonna be a huge boost to max shields but like

regen is the problem i can't even regen a few hundred per pillage on infested

[old marsh]

what level is your target?

SP? Netracell? ETA? Lvl cap?

[dull laurel]

standard SP

[old marsh]

thats why u offload that to raksa

[dull laurel]

starting a kubrow breed we'll see what happens

[old marsh]

aah. then just use fortifier. no one will touch your shields coz u will keep regening your OG.

[granite ginkgo]

hmm yea beside u dont rush on the build w non max, try trade kubrow breed template w other player for raksa

[dull laurel]

again its not really the damage im taking its just the drain from using abilities

my aegis is 25 per enemy i touch so i was in infested survival and theres like 40 enemies around me so instantly im draining like

1000 shields per sec

[granite ginkgo]

haha equip streamline of that the issues, cuz blind rage without primed redirection is quite painful

[dull laurel]

i might try that over adaptation

[old marsh]

not how u think. basically u wont lose shields when enemies attack u. and as i said. high efficiency so the drain wont be much. and your raksa will keep on regening it

use streamline and boreal shields mod

[dark harbor]

mine is something like this

for her

[dull laurel]

so the same but with augur reach over adapt

and precision intensify

[dark harbor]

for the ultimate

[prime fiber]

its been a bit since i played khora, is this good for SP farming?

[dark harbor]

Exilus tbh you can also take something if you want for less damage but i choose speed instead

[granite ginkgo]

how is her pseudo melee build? melee influence?

[dull laurel]

okay i realized the first kubrow i bred years and years ago is actually a raksa so im gonna try

and we'll see how things improve once i get primed redirection and maxed expertise

[prime fiber]

u mean my stat stick?

[dull laurel]

and i'll try streamline. ty guys

[old marsh]

u can drop velocity for aegis IF u do not use fortifier

[granite ginkgo]

khora doesnt use stat stick anymore, her 1st skill mod-able

[dark harbor]

khora i use range tbh

[prime fiber]

that tells you the last time i played khora xD

[dull laurel]

i used velocity initially but i switched it out for aegis to try and make the regen better against infested and it didnt work

[granite ginkgo]

so i double confirm w the question lol

[prime fiber]

im just doing the endo farm so imma look for a nidus

[dull laurel]

this is the balefire build i have

[prime fiber]

well im modding it now that i know it can be modded

[old marsh]

its 6%. u have it as last insurance. not solely rely on it

[granite ginkgo]

corro + heat build?

[opal leaf]

"back in my day" literally hahah welcome back (belated if I didn't notice)

[dull laurel]

its just ninjase build i copied

the damage honestly doesnt feel great but i figured it was my lack of max shields?

[granite ginkgo]

unless it not deimos infested you can try viral + heat/elec

[old marsh]

u can always try Omamori.

u cant die basically

[prime fiber]

thx xD, its such a trip seeing all these new crazy systems

[dull laurel]

no i meant for aegis gale

since it adds damage from your max shields and mine are relatively low

[prime fiber]

i did my first hour long void cascade yesterday and it was wild

[opal leaf]

It is tbh hahaha

[dull laurel]

viral heat makes more sense to me, i dont quite get why ninjase recommends corrosive heat

[prime fiber]

just tossed this all together, galv steel hidden by the crit chance

[dark harbor]

good

[granite ginkgo]

it universal dmg combo, since corrosive is armor strip per stack, and heat temporary armor strip on 10th stack

[dark harbor]

if you can later change for the fire prime instead

[dull laurel]

but i have built in armor strip

[valid plaza]

why elementalist?

[dull laurel]

and viral is like 8x damage

[prime fiber]

from what i can tell is you can reach 90% armor strip with corrosive heat

[opal leaf]

130

50% from heat

80% from corro

[dull laurel]

maybe i should underframe it

[granite ginkgo]

wait, did u check the element rework yet?

[old marsh]

actually much lower

[dull laurel]

corrosive always feels so poop for me while viral melts things

[prime fiber]

did some looking into it, idk if iflyn is reliable anymore but i watched his video that he made semi recently

[granite ginkgo]

understandable, ninjase build usually come with long ass thesis and nobody have time to read it in overframe

[old marsh]

u need corr proj to reach 90

[opal leaf]

Oh wait I misunderstood

[dull laurel]

no i do read but he just says "use corrosive heat for general play, viral heat/elec for x race and x race"

like murmur and another or whatever. point is he says corrosive heat is best general use and viral heat/elec is faction specific

[granite ginkgo]

wait iflyn active again?? he my goated creator early in 2019 haha

[prime fiber]

fr, it was wild to see him posting again right as im returning

[granite ginkgo]

outside of deimos, viral + heat is the best

[dull laurel]

i would agree but i generally trust ninjase more

so i thought i was just wrong

ill underframe it and see what that says

[prime fiber]

btw the whipclaw, to answer the earlier question, just tossed the build together rq

[granite ginkgo]

i too lazy to change config, i run viral + heat in deimos - up to game prefrance

[weak talon]

what is beter to sell im trying to get plat

[granite ginkgo]

either get arcane exposure for armor strip passive per cast
or melee influence - the rest is fine .ish

[granite ginkgo]

nope, u will likely sell for 5p with that neg grineer stat

[prime fiber]

dont have arcane adapters atm, oh wekk

[granite ginkgo]

negative grineer stat is huge redflag in riven

[weak talon]

how much would i get for the left one

[torn blaze]

Anyone have a build for Alternox Prime?

[remote acorn]

Does anyone have any shattered lash and gara builds?

[granite ginkgo]

50p or less

[granite ginkgo]

right primary and secondary is free from tenshin, where one get melee adapter

[prime fiber]

i have a stockpile of primary and secondary, its the melee and amp arcane adapters i lack

[weak talon]

how much would i get from this?

[granite ginkgo]

Gara:
https://overframe.gg/build/204674/gara-prime/glass-storm-gara-general-use-nuke-energy-build-steel-path/

4th skill nuke via exalted:
https://overframe.gg/build/974825/shattered-lash-prime/shattered-lash-influence-nuke/

2nd skill stacking via exalted:
https://overframe.gg/build/954908/shattered-lash-prime/shattered-lash-raw-damage-for-splinter-storm-stacking/

[granite ginkgo]

10p or less

[weak talon]

damn

[prime fiber]

bruh, im genuinely still struggling to comprehend that stat sticks arent a thing anymore...

[granite ginkgo]

@weak talon do u even know what u should reroll for??

[granite ginkgo]

it still a thing, just not for common frame used to it

[weak talon]

yea but im just seeing what it would be worth

[granite ginkgo]

smh

[weak talon]

im bad at how much shit is worth lol

[granite ginkgo]

here look for riven reroll, u shouldve get reroll on
CD = CC (or both), MS, FR, Dmg, Tox/Cold/Elec
harmless stat for negative

[dull laurel]

hm underframe says ninjase is right because you're going pure raw damage instead of status

[granite ginkgo]

get two positive stat and 1 harmless neg stat

[dull laurel]

so the viral is just used for raw damage against corrupted

viral elec is like 1/3 the dps of corrosive heat

[weak talon]

how much is this worth?

[granite ginkgo]

u got 2 stat worth and harmless neg, 100p or less

[weak talon]

hell yea

[valid plaza]

Now the hard part. Getting a buyer

[old marsh]

I have a Dera riven. Way better than this. Didn’t know it sold for this much

[granite ginkgo]

it got dera incarnon, and can be in EDA/ETA rooster

[old marsh]

It’s CD, SC & PT

[old marsh]

There is no Tenet Dera

[granite ginkgo]

sori incarnon

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-edit-i-saw-what-you-edited-i-saw-gif-27672816

[granite ginkgo]

confuse w similar design tenet

tenet flux

[old marsh]

That I know. I have it fully built. Chews thru ETA

But back to riven pricing. I have Crit dmg, status chance & punch thru

[granite ginkgo]

well yea, and incarnon riven dispo doesnt follow standard dispo - it depend when it was release

[old marsh]

a PT of 3.8. That’s hella overkill

[granite ginkgo]

when the dera incarnon first release it at dera highest dispo, so basically riven follow that for it incarnon

and it permanent lol

[granite ginkgo]

200p or less, unless status chance is neg

currently for may dera average pricing for cc/cd.

[old marsh]

Nah. All three r positive

I ain’t selling. Just curious of the value

honestly thought it would like 50p at best

[granite ginkgo]

at best to get buyer fast kekw

try post it in market between 200p and 50p, which one get buyer fast respond

[old marsh]

Imma post it for 420p

[latent adder]

has highest raw dmg cuz primed elec mod

[dull laurel]

yea i figured it out after underframing it

[granite ginkgo]

ghost them when there respond eh

[dull laurel]

while you're here i'm curious, what do you personally recommend for going against infested, do you think raksa is enough

[granite ginkgo]

have you tried priming mecha built in kubrow? or contagious bond build?
or just tenacious and reinforced bond mod?

[dull laurel]

just tenacious and reinforced

[granite ginkgo]

claw and posture stance?

[dull laurel]

i didnt build the kubrow yet i logged off

[granite ginkgo]

i meant in panzer, if that i recount u used b4

[dull laurel]

oh yea. my panzers claws are not built either lolol never bothered

just gave it above 50% crit and threw on whatever i had

[granite ginkgo]

there standard build for that, most claw build just for primed heat/elec/tox, the rest is to proc tenacious bond

[dull laurel]

yea i just dont have most of the claw mods

i have a hound built for priming instead if i wanna do that

[granite ginkgo]

hound isnt the best for bond mod, since it BiS weapon is batoten

[dull laurel]

yea but then i just use like seismic instead

[stray spindle]

what can i change? i made this like a year ago

[fierce lark]

drop narrow minded and overextended, the two kinda cancel each other out

you can swap transient for intensify if you want more duration, keep overextended if you want giga range or drop it for augur reach/something else entiret

you also really want shock trooper unless you’re intending for it to be a nuke build

[stray spindle]

no, its more like a utility with stun, armor strip, speed and the shield

also why do i want shock trooper?

i gave it a look and it doesnt seem better then terrify

[old marsh]

weapon buff

[stray spindle]

still, is it better then terrify on sp?

[old marsh]

different things. u can put terrify on 4

[stray spindle]

-stun -shield

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-5275984653907547388

[inner raptor]

If you fail to kill stalker do you lose that chance and have to hunt bosses again to spawn him?

[fierce lark]

pillage does all of the things that both your 4 and terrify do, without griefing teammates by making enemies path weirdly

it doesn’t cc enemies i guess but death is a pretty good cc

[stray spindle]

The pillage range is 8m, while discharge and terrify are 20m and 15m. Pillage also strips 25% armor while terrify does 57%, and I usually cast terrify while they’re stunned so pathing doesn’t get weird.

Death is probably still stronger overall, but stripping armor twice instead of four times looks faster for me. I was mainly wondering if there are newer mods or changes that could help with range or duration since the game’s updated a lot over time.

[fierce lark]

Pillage’s range extends over its duration

it starts at 8m and expands, i believe by its initial range every second

that’s why hildryn can’t just completely sac duration when it would otherwise be pretty bad on her

and the armor strip scales with strength obviously, so if you run corrosive projection you only need like 335% strength to full strip in 1 cast

[stray spindle]

oh yeah i missed that on the wiki, suppose i can try then

[cobalt kite]

guys what do we think of this nataruk build

[stray spindle]

335 is hella alot to get and maintain my build intent

[fierce lark]

not a fan of acuity, also please rank up your mods lol

[cobalt kite]

I will I promise

Just need 150000 endo

[fierce lark]

you don’t need full strip anyways but yeah, but also because of the way it expands you don’t need to drop strength for overextended

[cobalt kite]

What should I replace acuity with?

[fierce lark]

armor is a lot weaker now than in past iterations

[stray spindle]

i also need to farm endo badly

[fierce lark]

chamber mod

[stray spindle]

i need like 250k

[cobalt kite]

galvanized?

[fierce lark]

yeah if you have it

[stray spindle]

ill try and see it for myself ig ty

[cobalt kite]

ok perfect I do

[fierce lark]

rank up mods to 8

you get 80% of the mod’s effectiveness and it’s only 25% of the cost to max rank

mod upgrades are linear but the upgrade cost doubles every time

[cobalt kite]

bruh

[fierce lark]

like primed elemental mod (cold etc) gives 165% at max rank and costs 41k endo or w/e

rank 8 gives 135% and only costs 10k endo

[cobalt kite]

Wait a minute there are primed elemental mods??

[fierce lark]

there's primed mods for a lot of things

[cobalt kite]

Only from Baro?

[fierce lark]

rifles have primed cold, shotguns have cold and electric, pistols have electric and heat, and melees & archguns have toxin

[stray spindle]

also ik this is off topic but since u are here how can i farm endo? excluding arena

[fierce lark]

only from baro, you can buy them from players but you have to pay a 1m credit tax

[fierce lark]

ive gotten a lot of my endo from 1999 bounties

doing the 5th/6th tier bounty is a chance at i think 3200 or 4400 endo

you can also do arbitrations for endo, lots of endo rewards and ayatan sculptures

[cobalt kite]

How I literally get no endo from the missions. AM I doing something wrong?

[fierce lark]

it's not guaranteed, it's just on the reward table

also if you just play the game a lot, you get a ton of duplicate mods that aren’t worth selling that you can fuse for endo

[cobalt kite]

okok

SHould I replace toxin with primed cold if I get it for blast instead of corrosive or nah

[fierce lark]

you should probably go pure electric

best balance of dps and aoe

the status from electric will add more damage than the faction bonus even against grineer

and nataruk wants to be 1shotting where possible

[sage wave]

Which Variant of Latron should I use? Prime or Wraith?

[fierce lark]

prime

[spring radish]

Hi all do i need to change someting on my build for strun ?

[fierce lark]

incarnon?

[fierce lark]

if you’re using the incarnon presumably, galvanized savvy is really bad. drop that and config your mod setup to be viral + electricity, or pure electricity if you’re running nourish

it looks like you’re also not running the pure status final evo, you may want to do that as well

[spring radish]

im using tis on nova withh xata subsume

[fierce lark]

generally speaking, you don’t want to stack 3 different sources of base damage (unless the weapon has multiplicative CO scaling, which you can find here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VsEoCYhZmmPNgfqQksMnZFSFiTWaXDavulsghO-_QNE/edit?gid=883121879#gid=883121879 )

[spring radish]

tis one ?

[fierce lark]

yeah that one

if there’s a weird way that nova builds strun to play with antimatter drop then idk, that’s out of my expertise range

[spring radish]

its okay thanks anyway

[old marsh]

how does that list compared to the one in wiki? https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Condition_Overload_(Mechanic)#Attack_Catalog

[fierce lark]

also

elementalist mods only buff status damage, which is the damage over time from status procs. slash/heat/electric/toxin/blast/gas

if your weapon is only modded for viral, or corrosive, or something of the sort, elementalist mods do little to nothing

[fierce lark]

the google doc is more accurate/up to date in my experience

[spring radish]

isee only DOT

[prime fiber]

what ability should i subsume off banshee? her 1 or 4?

[mighty flare]

4

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[craggy niche]

Is PPP good if you're running your melee just to smash acolytes?

[fierce lark]

if by smash you mean literally kill it in 1 hit without a companion priming it then yeah

but that’s usually being done by weapons that want sac mods anyway (heavy/slam weapons)

[opal leaf]

Would Falcor and Xoris want those two?

[fierce lark]

they're pretty bad weapons for acolytes, and it depends on the build

for recall bombs you'd want sacs

but obv if you're playing 12x you'd want galv steel/ppp with blood rush

[inner raptor]

what good primary and secondary arcane for mausolon? aside from dexterity for poor man's naramon

[fierce sapphire]

Horrible but fun- ivara's navigator works with thrown melees like the Xoris and launchers like the Zarr

[old marsh]

crux and flare

[prime fiber]

is there any reason to use ashes 4 without the augment?

[old marsh]

yes

[prime fiber]

i feel like im def missing something then

[old marsh]

u dont need the augment

crit chance from WA

[prime fiber]

wa?

[old marsh]

wrathful advance

[prime fiber]

thats kullervos ability not ashes

[old marsh]

u will know soon enough

[prime fiber]

im not talking about helminth

im asking if ashes base 4th ability is used for anything without the augment

[old marsh]

that is what i am talking about. u dont need the augment

[prime fiber]

dude either put a degree of effort into explaining or dont respond

[cobalt kite]

what does stacking 3 different sources mean?

Like if you have cold, heat, and elec?

[old marsh]

Not the elements. Different sources of base dmg

[pulsar glade]

whats better for general use in kuva kohm, corrosive or viral?

[opal leaf]

Yes it's used for anything without an augment

You don't need the augment in the first plsce

[old marsh]

Viral but u want higher heat weighting in your status. Consider using 60/60 mods

[pulsar glade]

i was against using 60/60 because iirc anything above 100% SC is overkill and just went with more damage. should i remove shotgun elementalist to add heat?

[old marsh]

Your choice. U lose out on mag cap

Ngl Kuva Kohm is phenomenal for applying so many status’es. But the base dmg is low. But if u put primed mods then u lose the heat weighting. It’s so annoying

[versed harbor]

over 100% still good cuz it lets you roll for multiple statuses

[pulsar glade]

yeaaaa now im torn between removing magnetic strafe and hunter munition

magnetic strafe melts exilus but the synergy of slash viral is good too

[versed harbor]

u can drop hunter muni aswell its not good anymore

better to go for a dot element like elec

sry I literally just woke up 💀

[fierce lark]

okay so now that im out of videogame

the damage of your shot is calculated by a bunch of different factors. the actual damage, the multishot, whether or not it crits, the multiplier on said crits, and the amount of elemental damage (the combination of all elemental mods)

the more of the same thing you add, the lower the relative value of each different source. if you only have 1 thing that says "damage", then that 1 thing is contributing to 100% of your extra base damage. but if you have three, then each of those sources are only contributing their amount relative to your total. in your build example, you get 360% damage from merciless, 240% from cannonade, and 80 x status from savvy. assuming 4 statuses, cannonade in that example is only providing 26% of your total base damage increase.

compare that to, as an example, a basic cleanse mod. cleanse is +30% damage, calculated after everything else. it also applies twice to any damaging status effects you inflict

[pulsar glade]

right on time actually 🫡 thanks for the new info

[versed harbor]

ye

[fierce lark]

the idea is to combine as many different sources of increasing damage as possible. get 1-2 sources of base damage (one of which is usually the arcane), one source of multishot, one for crit chance, crit damage, your desired elemental combinations (usually viral+heat or viral+electricity), and then if you have a slot or two leftover you can decide what to put there. add fire rate, faction damage, status damage, a magnetic mod, more crit chance (galvanized scope), or if you don't need more damage you can add QOL like reload speed/mag size

[primal halo]

anyone got a Kuva nukor SP build?

[marble marten]

I'm going to turn on the ps5, I'll show you in a moment

[primal halo]

🫡

[dawn sigil]

Can someone share a good build for Oraxia?

[marble marten]

I've been using that one for years, maybe there's a better one with magnetic might, I don't know, but the truth is it destroys everything

[rich glacier]

Viral we have enough armor reduction sources. You can equip a corrosive projection for a slight decrease