builds-discussion

[knotty coral]

can rhino prime reach 500 energy?

[opal leaf]

With Primed Flow max rank

What's the turbulence augment

Ohhhhh

That's a fckin good augment!!!!

[velvet pulsar]

Jet Stream Sam
Should've been exilus mod.

Both movement speed & projectile speed are exilus stats.

[opal leaf]

Oooo that's a good fckin augment! I need that instead of funnel cloud

[old marsh]

Ye

[knotty coral]

without putting 5 archon shards?

[solar reef]

needs one tau blue shard and primed flow

[knotty coral]

ill try with that , ty ^^

[spice willow]

is there any way remove/ not have a lich anymore? i have 1 with kuva hind and i want tenet plinx, is the tenet plinx even good

i use cedo and kompressa on yareli prime

[knotty coral]

u have to kill the lich
for the next one u should check what weapon it drops if u lookig for one
i never used any of the weapons u said so i cant help with that , srry

[solar reef]

you cant remove a lich

have to kill it

or convert it

And yes, Tenet Plinx is awesome. Though its not a crowd clearer or anything.

[velvet pulsar]

Rhino can use arcane battery though

[spice willow]

how abt kuva hind then

[velvet pulsar]

Tenet Plinx is good.

[spice willow]

is kuva hind good?

[velvet pulsar]

I don't use normal shotguns so IDK

[spice willow]

Kuva hind is a rifle

[wary forge]

its mid

[violet silo]

...not really

[wary forge]

does fine in base sp like any gun tho

[sharp portal]

Im in a Dilema, wich is the best build for Ember rn

This one was made by Ninjase

These ones I found in the devil's website

[opal leaf]

Devils website?

[sharp portal]

Overframe*

[opal leaf]

My image was loading so I didn't know

[old marsh]

took ember to lvl cap but with weapon. u really cant take her to lvl cap with caster build

fortifier on nukor coz her survivability is hands down .... bad

[sharp portal]

Interesting

[opal leaf]

What about if you're generous enough hahahah

How is her survivability

[solar reef]

“wouldnt it be really funny if we gave a frame a heat damage augment for weapons and then made it bad for DOT anways since her abilities just hit first”

[mighty flare]

(not using her survivability augment)

[old marsh]

and the annoying part is the combo timer

there is no way to increase that thing

[sharp portal]

Kuva Nukor as Secondary, got it

[old marsh]

or u can use circumvent. or u can use healing flame as Meats said. lots of options

[mighty flare]

hot shot for knukor is a choice too

[sharp portal]

I was thinking about giving her that weapon honestly

What about Primary?

[old marsh]

anything u want. i think i have used burston for her a lot

[sharp portal]

I wanna give her Ignis Wraith but lets be honest. The weapon needs an upgrade or something

[solar reef]

if you like the ignis just use torid

[old marsh]

an augment would be nice

[solar reef]

functionally the same weapon just post steel path

[old marsh]

say, enemy on fire and u get 5% CC per heat proc

[sharp portal]

But I already have a skin for it 😭

[solar reef]

yikes

there was a time when Ignis was meta

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-walker-gif-4456070846517955697

not even meta just good

[sharp portal]

I cant use Ignis skins in other Flametowers can I

[solar reef]

there are no other flamethrowers afaik

[sharp portal]

How good from 1 to 10

[solar reef]

now?

[sharp portal]

Ye

[solar reef]

Like a 4 lol its super mediocre

[sharp portal]

Thats not good lmao

[opal leaf]

Ignis wraith can go post steel path? I thought it's pre steel path or early steel path

[gleaming vapor]

ignis wraith is lowk booty cheeks

[solar reef]

read what I said again

[gleaming vapor]

the best flamethrower is like furis incarnon

[sharp portal]

Lets prepare an Incarnon for Ignis

Can I use Glaive Prime for Ember right

[solar reef]

If you just want thematic weapons use burston and furis

[old marsh]

too much work. an augment is cheaper to make for DE

[sharp portal]

They already made one for Stug

[solar reef]

Of course, casting literally any AOE ability as ember will nerf these weapons

[opal leaf]

I guess... Huh

[sharp portal]

I think Kuva Nukor fits more 🥶

I may try Burston

[old marsh]

exactly. so they cant any more soon

[solar reef]

Furis Incarnon is literally a flame thrower

doesnt get more fitting

(its also just the best ST weapon in the game)

still nerfed by ember though

[sharp portal]

You mean, literally spits fire

In a literal way

[solar reef]

it shoots a beam of fire

[sharp portal]

What

[opal leaf]

I just need to properly mod it

[sharp portal]

No fokin way its true

Why Furis splits Fire lmao

[opal leaf]

It's dps monster

The shots of bullets looks like lazers bc of how fast it is

[solar reef]

it is literally a beam weapon in its incarnon form

[sharp portal]

It really looks like fire

[opal leaf]

Nah I was wrong, it's a beam

[solar reef]

its not just “shooting so fast it looks like one”

[sharp portal]

What a change

Fortunetly I choosed that Incarnon for this week

[solar reef]

but yeah Furis is top 3 secondaries in the game atm

[opal leaf]

How did you build Furis, I'm having a hard time dealing damage with it... Unless I'm modding it wrong

[sharp portal]

What are the others

[opal leaf]

Laetum and Dual Toxo

[solar reef]

just your generic viral heat setup

[sharp portal]

What about my goated Gammacor 🥶

[solar reef]

its not making the top 10 lol

[opal leaf]

Oh aight

Ms with headshots focused?

[sharp portal]

I destroyed planets with it

[solar reef]

headshots focused?

[sharp portal]

Ok seriously, the weapon is good. The Synoid one

[solar reef]

its a beam weapon

[opal leaf]

Uhhh mods that increases Crits using headshots kills... Like a Galv Scope

[solar reef]

why do we care about headshots

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[opal leaf]

I thought itll be like the burston

[solar reef]

Burston isnt a beam weapon

[sharp portal]

Glaive Prime works great in Ember Right

[opal leaf]

Yes I know, I just meant if it's build like it

Idk if that's understandable

[solar reef]

works about as well as it does any anybody else

[sharp portal]

Nice

Then let me recap

The weapon set wich I should use in Ember is:
▪︎ Primary: Burston Prime/Torid
▪︎ Secondary: Incarnon Furis/Kuva Nukor
▪︎ Melee: Glaive Prime

[old marsh]

tenet grigori, hate

[solar reef]

if you use the burston incarnon, use the nukor
if you use the torid incarnon, use the furis incarnon

[sharp portal]

Hmm, Hate convinces me

[solar reef]

Burston and Furis are both Single Target weapons, and also happen to be the highest DPS single target weapons in their categories (Primary and Secondary)

[solar reef]

afflictions for a status that gets nerfed on Ember

I love heat inherent

except for when I dont

Ember’s heat status should never have damage priotity over weapon heat status

its so annoying

[opal leaf]

Do u have a build example of Furis? I'm getting underwhelmed out of it

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/465709/furis/furis-incarnon-general-use/
I believe I just use Ninjase’ set up but with mercless gun fight/riven over Faction since I’m using it with Roar Oberon

[opal leaf]

Thanks

[weak stratus]

may be a dumb question but is arc coil an ability? cause ik ability priority is dependent on the order which would mean guardian is 2nd priority if it is,but if its not then gaurdian still be priority 1 even tho its in the second precept mod slot right?

[stone lake]

which of these rivens is better?

[spiral chasm]

right can replace ur pt mod

so id go right

[stone lake]

Thanks!

[spiral chasm]

also 3 good stats compared to 2

[stone lake]

Yeah, I just know fire rate is really good on Dual Toxocyst

[spiral chasm]

true it does interact in a multiplicative way with the passive

[stone lake]

if its not obvious, I don't actually use them, I just roll this to see if I can get a riven god roll and be set on platinum for life haha

[spiral chasm]

oh lol

ig the roll doesnt matter what u choose then if u only lock a godroll

[stone lake]

I have to cash out eventually, so I figure whatever the best roll I can get will be worth the most

[spiral chasm]

you want a neg if u want a good sell

[stone lake]

yeah...

gotta get that -zoom

[quaint flare]

Does anyone have a steel path compatible Sobek build that includes Clip delegation and Acid shells ?

[rich glacier]

Both rivens were good for different reasons. I would go left due to few fire rate sources as a bonus instead of dedicated fire rate mod. Lethal torrent and left riven would be enough. Crit chance on rivens is not as amazing as people make it out to be. We have galvanized scope/crosshairs and pistol gambit or critical delay.

Status duration will be popular once the next ypdate hits with green hp bars

[opal leaf]

Sobek is a niche gun

Only used to specific frames

Saryn
Cyte
Oraxia
Zephyr (as somehow it works)

That's how it works for it

Outside that.. Kuva Sobek and Sobek are just normal shotties

[quaint flare]

I do have oraxia so thats not an issue

[opal leaf]

Yeah

Now you need Oraxia, mod whatever (I would recommend Electric cause why not) and then go crazy with Oraxia

[quaint flare]

Cool ill try that thwnks

[opal leaf]

For further information, ask Malz, cause I cannot really explain it clearly

[quaint flare]

Thats alright thanks tho

[dense moat]

anyone got a zephyr build??

[craggy niche]

bruh i just ran into a sobek cyte abuser in pubbies

hollly fuuuu they need to nerf that shiii

[opal leaf]

I have one if you like

[opal leaf]

Wait till you see Saryn Sobek hahha

[dense moat]

sure, can u send it

[craggy niche]

honestly people should just keep that shiii to solo mode. straight up griefing at that point

any who what is objectively the best stance for tonfas?

[dense moat]

zamn the companion app

thx for sharing it

[opal leaf]

Well it's the best nuke for a gun

It's fair tbh, you rarely meet with those

[dense moat]

wb last slot

[opal leaf]

That's just an exilus slot

[dense moat]

ah aigh

[craggy niche]

there is no not gun nuke that nukes like that lol. there's nothing fair or enjoyable to be around about that. i sincerely hope they nerf the hell out of it at some point cuz stuff like that just makes the game unenjoyable and causes frustration leaving and rejoining when you're just trying to play too

[dense moat]

use it urself, its really satisfying to see a large group of enemies die in 5 seconds or smth

[opal leaf]

Well it's used for Arbitrations, it's the meta for it

Tbh it's not even the problem for most part. Unless you are fighting for the "highest damage" percentage, I don't see the problem with it

[dense moat]

charge your phone twin

[opal leaf]

Later

[dense moat]

so what kinda build is that?
like 1 nuke? 4 nuke? js general build?

[craggy niche]

Most people don't play this to chase kills around that they can't get because someone is standin in the middle of the map literally vaporizing everything lol. I'm sorry but the only reason you'd defend this kind of griefing is that you enjoy doing the griefing too lol

[dense moat]

prob not 1 nuke cos no target fixation

[opal leaf]

It's not even the griefing too tbh

Unless you're not doing your job or objective, that's griefing

You can do an objective while not killing stuff tbh

Especially in alchemy, excavation etc.

Idk what's griefing in that?

[craggy niche]

it is literally straight up griefing. the only point of playing is going in and killing things, when someone strips you of that ability by running a kit that is clearly not functioning in a balanced manner that is griefing

[opal leaf]

Guess your enjoyment is destroyed but the others whom they come up with These don't have these experience

[craggy niche]

you and i disagree, probably because you enjoy doing the griefing. i'm not changing my viewpoint on it, i think it's disgusting behavior and personally hope it gets nerfed through the floor. end of story. lol.

[opal leaf]

I'm a Soloist... How am I going to do griefing if I do one?

I don't even do griefing

[craggy niche]

that's fine bro. you're not changing my view on it lol. stuff like this ruins the game for others and needds to go

[dusky bane]

Cyte's worse lol

[craggy niche]

anywho what's the best stance for tonfas

[opal leaf]

Guess you're not getting enough kills Kiddo?
Guess you're not showing off the builds kiddo?
Guess you're not fcking having your own shitty damage and shit?

The one who is destroying youre own gameplay is your shit

Period.

Don't fcking compare me to those fckers

That's the worse you could've done

[craggy niche]

bro you needa calm down lmao. bro's salty as hell

screenshotting that btw haven't seen someone pop that easy since my Elite: Dangerous days lmao i wasn't even ragebaiting you

[opal leaf]

Go ahead. I don't really care anymore

The moment you compared me to griefers that's where you cross the line

[craggy niche]

i just said i have a different viewpoint than you then you went off with the strawmanning bro lol. Soft aaaaa baby man

[opal leaf]

Ya I'm not getting baited again

I've cool myself down, nice try

[dusky bane]

Just block and move on lol

[opal leaf]

Again the moment you compare me to those fckers, you crossed the line

[craggy niche]

you really showed me dog. move on with your night lol. i didn't bait anything you went off on me and personally attacked me

[dusky bane]

Bro calling high kill builds griefing, it's obvious they're here to stir shit up

[opal leaf]

God thank you

[dense moat]

idk man i used to use saryn sobek all the time and my teammates got good kills too

its prob ur build that lacks

[craggy niche]

saryn sobek ain't like cyte sobek lol. bro was standing in the middle of the map just vaporising everything

[dense moat]

oh hey look a helldivers player

[rare iris]

Ik this person

[velvet pulsar]

Isn't that the same excuse DE uses to nerf high damage builds?

[rare iris]

They're pretty cool.

[dusky bane]

Haven't played in a bit sadly
Me and my mates been put off from the game for a while

[dense moat]

ah ic

[rare iris]

Name a high dmg build that DE has nerfed

gimmie one

[velvet pulsar]

Exodia Contagion

[dusky bane]

Due to damage/kills specifically, not just fixing a bug*

[rare iris]

insane

[dusky bane]

When lmao

[velvet pulsar]

Mid air heavy attacks

[rare iris]

The correct answer was on release dante

[craggy niche]

you're telling me stuff like this is enjoyable lmao

[novel bear]

Harmony afflictions

[rare iris]

bug fix (rip harmony)

It has the same dmg

[dusky bane]

Oh that shit? Lowkey a bug fix ngl
Speaking as someone who did it from time to time

[opal leaf]

Yeah I knew it, youre thinking of the stats and percentage...

[dusky bane]

Ye, I'm still mad about that ngl

[dense moat]

does nezha 4 augment count

the range was nerfed

[novel bear]

Hildryn’s not oppressive if your own builds are good

[dense moat]

well u doing a mission where people level their stuff up, obviously theres gon be nuke frames

[craggy niche]

why are you so angry bro? dayum bro genuinely talk to someone

[craggy niche]

there's nuke frames and then there's this shiiii

[opal leaf]

I am talking to Cubra calmly now

[gleaming vapor]

hildryn was really good when enervate bug was a thing

[velvet pulsar]

That's not bug fix category.

They did remove mid air heavy attacks from the game after a while, but some months before that, they specifically said "we're nerfing the damage of only this thing because mid air heavies are unintended"

It doesn't make sense that only 1 thing's damage got nerfed because an entire movement was a bug

[gleaming vapor]

now shes like eh

[dense moat]

go to SO and theres gon be a mirage getting 4k kills obv

[opal leaf]

I released all the anger earlier

[novel bear]

Hildryn is still really good

Just does less damage

[craggy niche]

i like mama hildryn now that enervates fixed, her just one tapping everything was the only real problem there

[dusky bane]

Hildryn got indirectly nerfed by a bug fix
Which is warranted imo

[gleaming vapor]

becasue of how her energy/shield thing works, she kinda relied on allat damage to be able to do literally anything at higher levels

[novel bear]

Just use mystic bond

[velvet pulsar]

Free ability casts work on shield drain?

[gleaming vapor]

idk if that works

still leads to pillage spam tho

[velvet pulsar]

Not when using Raksa Kubrow

[craggy niche]

hildryn is the core reason the bug got highlighted and fixed lol. but yeah. kinda sucked tho cuz jade was alot funner with that bug and not terribly broken

[novel bear]

They do
And aren’t consumed

[opal leaf]

I'm off for now, Im still in a meeting

[novel bear]

Unless it’s a subsumed ability

[dusky bane]

I don't mind a client only bug being removed

[novel bear]

So you can cast pillage for free

Infinitely

[velvet pulsar]

Well time to update my Raksa Kubrow build

[craggy niche]

i still like jade alot, she's a outstanding frame. just wish i could make her not pregnant lol she weird lookin as hell in social mode

[opal leaf]

I have to calm myself more

[velvet pulsar]

Makes sense because shield gate is provided by kubrow for other frames.

So mystic bond won't grief the gating

[craggy niche]

Hildryn is like half hildryn without the hildryn dog

i just went with ol' ninjases build for it

works mostly for jade too

[velvet pulsar]

But yeah, most of the time when DE had to nerf something because it was too powerful, they had to make excuses in order to do so.

[craggy niche]

Some people can't accept that powercreep is real in pve games lol. If people are just abusing broken shiii it ruins the fun for others and sells less plat

[velvet pulsar]

Can tenacious bond proc on raksa kubrow when hildryn is playing?

Coz she unequips primary weapon

And the kubrow cannot gain enough CC by itself right?

[ashen ermine]

is this a good starter for steel path?

[old marsh]

blood rush and weeping wounds

its a staple for all light attack spam

[craggy niche]

i know they discussed it in here one day, not knowledgable enough to tell you how but i'm pretty sure the consensus was that it works. i can slap it on and see if it procs quick

[modest vector]

does anybody got a sobek cyte build dey can shares

[craggy niche]

@velvet pulsar or @old marsh is there a objectively best stance for tonfas? tryna upgrade praedos

[hazy hatch]

🪿

[old marsh]

no idea. i do know for polearms and staffs

[velvet pulsar]

I have yet to build Telos Boltace, so IDK

[hazy hatch]

sobek needs nerf!

[old marsh]

honestly just pick the one that has better swipes while holding E

[opal leaf]

Huh still into that when in trying to calm myself out

[velvet pulsar]

On the contrary, DE is actively trying to promote it.

[old marsh]

always has. shit has 3 augments. which is illegal

[quiet laurel]

Nerf cyte as well so he cant have punch through anymore pls

[craggy niche]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ea-eeee-1--k01KRG0HP5DSKM93ZM707E1A3K3

[hazy hatch]

true

[velvet pulsar]

"Punch Through"
Guy cannot punch through objects with his fist

It's confirmed, Atlas is better than Cyte.

[opal leaf]

On doing punch through? Hell ya

As I am thinking around

I'm still deep in thought how you survive with Koumei...

With lazy shield gate she looks squishy

If I use tanking, she is also squishy

[velvet pulsar]

She's the omamori frame. U know what to do.

[opal leaf]

Should I mix the two?

[opal leaf]

Guess mixing the 2 it is

[velvet pulsar]

Nah

[quiet laurel]

Lazy gate AND active gate

[velvet pulsar]

Either go with shield recharge delay + omamori + catalysing shields + aegis + augur mod
OR
Health tank with persistence & Well of Life

[opal leaf]

Damn... In the middle huh

[quiet laurel]

The 2nd option is only picked by mossad agents btw

[velvet pulsar]

In both cases, use Arcane Circumvent

[velvet pulsar]

"almost every frame can use it doesn't mean everyone should use it"

[opal leaf]

I guess I'm mixing both lazy and active

I'm thinking tho...

Terrify...

[velvet pulsar]

Status priming warframe
Already means armor strip
Doesn't need full strip

[dusky bane]

I'm sorry for wanting survivability with 2 mods instead of 3 plus an arcane

[opal leaf]

I'm thinking of CC hahahah

[velvet pulsar]

I'm sure the last part is under-exaggerated

Persistence requires more than 3 mods in a full utilization build

[velvet pulsar]

Even a kubrow can cast that fear effect

[latent adder]

Uhh squishy? How

[rich glacier]

is glaive explosion benefited from range mods?

[latent adder]

Shes near immortal, and sometimes completely immortal

[dusky bane]

Who mentioned persistence

[latent adder]

Just slap all the mods on and keep omamori up u dont need to think

[opal leaf]

Hold on... Huh?

[velvet pulsar]

I did but got it

[dusky bane]

I replied to a message comparing active and passive gate...

[latent adder]

Passive gate with omamori its just really easy

[quiet laurel]

🤖 beep boop translating 🤖
"Glory to israel and the IDF" 🤖

[velvet pulsar]

If only there was a starboard

[opal leaf]

Huh...

Ninjase... I have a very weird feeling about asking this... But... What if I add Adaptation in that Passive gate

[dusky bane]

Tbf I active gate on saryn mostly

So uhh
I'm biased

[latent adder]

Not necessary

[opal leaf]

Oh... Hmm... Any DR related mods that I can slot in?

[velvet pulsar]

Gating & DR don't go together.

[latent adder]

I mean, u could slot boreals lol but I dont see a point

[quiet laurel]

Oh you were defending shield gate
My bad g

[latent adder]

Boreals anguish is good

For the decrees

[velvet pulsar]

I intentionally didn't speak in between

[dusky bane]

What did you think 💀

[velvet pulsar]

[velvet pulsar]

Persistence

[velvet pulsar]

I mentioned it here "2nd option"

[opal leaf]

I see I see...

Lazy gate and Omamori

[quiet laurel]

That you were one of them persistence peasants

[dusky bane]

Lmao
Naw, I haven't health tanked since 2021 when I didn't know any better

I thought these were connected thoughts

[velvet pulsar]

My message is in the middle
But "in the middle" is not my message

[marble marten]

Nuke build with loki, It's not that comfortable, but it can be fun

[rich glacier]

do eximus babau and repost

[velvet pulsar]

Heh it's our MFD Loki

[opal leaf]

I think Babau has DA hahah that won't work hahahaha

[rich glacier]

it doesn't anymore

[opal leaf]

Oh

[rich glacier]

it is the best simulacrum enemy

[opal leaf]

What's MFD mean?

[rich glacier]

heavy gunner doesn't mean anything

[velvet pulsar]

@opal leaf Original post where this idea arrived from:
https://youtu.be/em1epz7rcjg?si=82UsGyAcK_0Jqunp

[opal leaf]

Oh MFD

marked For death

[velvet pulsar]

Though the build needs slight change.

[marble marten]

I put the Eximus on because the colors looked cool lol, but it kills any enemy I have scanned

[opal leaf]

I'm curious, what build you have

I've been using mind control Loki for a long time that I didn't explored more

[velvet pulsar]

@opal leaf Build in this video

[opal leaf]

Oh

[velvet pulsar]

Me and Jelmei did a collab on that vid.

It's a bit underperforming now due to acuity nerf

[marble marten]

I don't use the build from that video lol, the guy uses a lot of range but loses strength

[velvet pulsar]

Is plinx using multishot or acuity?

[marble marten]

Acuity

[velvet pulsar]

Also MFD has cap so more strength isn't gonna boost the nuke

Capped at 150% of target enemy health

[marble marten]

I tried his build and it didn't even kill the Eximus

[velvet pulsar]

Damage Decoy should be scaling taking other enemy health into consideration

IDK what went wrong then

[marble marten]

But I don't know... this build seems too boring to me because you have to shoot him right in the head and wait for the animation to finish when you use MFD

[velvet pulsar]

It's a solo build because u gotta cast 2 abilities for one nuke

[opal leaf]

Hold on, I cannot understand why it works

[velvet pulsar]

From what I can see, the plinx build seems same because u said acuity & because I can see secondary surge buff up in UI

[opal leaf]

Wait what makes it work?

[velvet pulsar]

MFD is capped at 150% of a target's health

[craggy niche]

unrelated but in your raksa kubrow you have tenascious bond listed, how does she go about proccing this on hildryn?

[velvet pulsar]

Damage Decoy increases the target's health

[latent adder]

Claws

[marble marten]

I'm thinking of making a build with Loki+Nidus+coda Pox lol

[craggy niche]

yes but claws can only hit 33 can they not?

[latent adder]

Really?

[opal leaf]

And thus makes it boom everything?

[modest vector]

wat do yall think i shud put on the empty slots (i'll be forma ing it later so dont mind da 1 forma and grinding mods later too) kinda might make his 4th ability nourish too

[velvet pulsar]

Just claws? Hunter Synergy works on Hildryn when she unequips primary during her 4?

[marble marten]

I have riven

[velvet pulsar]

I hope it has mag cap

[old marsh]

what was the recommended subsume on Baruuk? been years since i played him

[velvet pulsar]

MFD spreads damage based on single instance.
So yes, that single instance should be strong enough to one-shot enemy.
Any further damage won't boost the nuke.

[opal leaf]

Seems like a lot of work hahaha

[velvet pulsar]

Savage Silence lull finisher loop Baruuk

[velvet pulsar]

It is

2 button press per nuke

Needs headshot

[opal leaf]

Just gonna stick with Mind Control Loki

[velvet pulsar]

Or a strong non-headshot weapon

[craggy niche]

i uhhhh have a submission to add to the funni fortifier list lol

wisps breach surge wisps

[velvet pulsar]

Nice

[opal leaf]

Because that's who Loki is... A trickster

[velvet pulsar]

I hope u r using Arcane Concentration

[opal leaf]

Yes I am

[velvet pulsar]

I don't like that Decoy & Mind Control duration has a huge gap

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's one is annoying hahahah

But a minute would work wonders tbh

[latent adder]

I just assumed raksa claws hit the cc like other claws tbh lol

[velvet pulsar]

That confused me

Because I don't think even the "primary critical chance" link will work when using Aegis Gale

(maybe it could work because amalgam Furax works)

[velvet pulsar]

Nevermind, this could work

Which means hildryn needs to run a high CC primary weapon

(high CC on first damage category of primary)

[warm obsidian]

So...
Does every melee weapon that uses Influence run the same build?

[rich glacier]

pretty much

half the mods are always the same and the rest depend on weapon type or melee playstyle. like you wouldn't put reflex if you don't like heavy attack melee

[warm obsidian]

Berserker last slot

[rich glacier]

actually no you do quickening

you get the combo stacks faster

[warm obsidian]

Oh
Forgot about Venka passive

I can run the same for Okina then

[old marsh]

basically pick Quickening if u r short of space and/or your single strikes r killing enemies taking u like 2 minutes to get to x12 combo

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gif-18197257

[velvet pulsar]

That's so old

[rich glacier]

I am cooking with argo& vel. I'm using true punishment for combo count to the next level

[old marsh]

still so good

[velvet pulsar]

Ivara?

[rich glacier]

no styanax

[velvet pulsar]

Fitting

[rich glacier]

who plays melee with ivara?

[velvet pulsar]

Navigator users

[rich glacier]

o kfair

[old marsh]

Glaive with Navigator hits dmg cap

[rich glacier]

that is funny combo. I just use my water hose

[old marsh]

u can just sit in one spot and just kill everyone

[velvet pulsar]

If only other glaives had infinite usability or falcor didn't bug with navigator

[old marsh]

but gameplay gets old

[velvet pulsar]

Not just old, DE hates it

Probably why it apparently puts u in inactivity penalty

[rich glacier]

does reach affect glaive explosion?

[pearl tusk]

Guys if i buy prime weapon from the market with regal aya will i be able to use it on mr5 ?

[velvet pulsar]

Same as Voidrig if u stay in 4 for 1 min even when killing enemies

[old marsh]

for that we have volatile mods

[cloud pivot]

I think so?

Unless it restricts you from buying them on the menu itself

[pallid hedge]

Anyone got a good kuva ayanga build

[latent adder]

So hunter works?

[craggy niche]

yeah so just ran 2 more conjunctions with wisp and fortifier on my toxicyst

she 100 percent does proc fortifier with breach surge lmao

[velvet pulsar]

Haven't tested but it should because Amalgam Furax and Okina's movement speed works

Which means hildryn doesn't unequip weapons

Unlike Titania

[craggy niche]

yee so does amalgam diffusion and so on

i will test tomorrow once i build my claws out lol.

triumb wisp has been pretty fun so far. (4 tau red)

[potent marten]

Lill question, why triumbral?

[craggy niche]

i'm pretty sure i could probably cap out bellicose if i swapped out fused and ran energy conversion instead of augur and maybe a fifth shard but i refuse to give up cast speed and conveinance lol. and bellicose scales linearly rather than incrementally as listed so not to worry about it

[potent marten]

I'm curious

[craggy niche]

honestly just wanted to do it to see if she could make good use of bellicose

soon as i put a mote down i have ~500 str

[potent marten]

For like maximum strength wisp?

[craggy niche]

and i really don't like super conditional builds so this is basically lazy strength empathment

[craggy niche]

yeee you always wanna go high as you can on wisp for str. i would not recommend this build to anyone newer tho or maybe even at all lol, just something i wanted to do and it turned out decent

i've done a fair bit of messing about with her lmao

[potent marten]

Yeah I totally get it. I always make some stupid builds that somehow work but I never recommend them

It's just for the fun

[craggy niche]

i mean this is great just similar results can be achieved for MUCH cheaper lol. umbrals are expensive

like if i did energy conversion instead of augur and power drift i'd gain ~50 str or so, putting me right around 560 str just having a mote out as my only conditional, and i still got dura so they last like 30s when i'm away from them

but i pretty much have to run nourish if i wanna use anything but the motes lol. 500str nourish is pretty nutty, even just archon stretch is enough to fuel the insatiable need for breach spam everything

yeah that's 3x energy multiplier if i'm mathing the maths right

actually 300 percent more energy rather* the formula for bonus energy is .6xSTR

[old marsh]

if only Warframe had forma memory

[craggy niche]

yeah i'd have to make another wisp to justify undoing this lol

which wouldn't be a problem i got like ten of them nasty hoes in my inventory in pieces

like it isn't even close with her lmao wisp was my first tho

[opal leaf]

What skin is that for Ivara prime

[craggy niche]

Skathi

[dense belfry]

a question born out of curiosity;
what would be better
Overcharge or Deadhead for burston incarnon? (overcharge of course intending on the idea that the flame augment for the burston prime is healing me.)

i dont have a simulacrum yet so this is why i ask here, sadly

[versed harbor]

deadhead cuz overcharge is rly impossible to upkeep and even if you do its not that much multishot tbh

[jaunty fern]

anything i could change or is this good

[jaunty fern]

ignore the arcanes i haven't been farming them

[opal leaf]

Hmm, it is a cool skin ngl

It might fit for my Nataruk

Thanks

[crimson cedar]

Harrow : change Aura for Corrosive Projection, you already have unlimited energy with him

For other stats on Harrow, you can play with no mods at all, his kit work perfectly
199% Str is enough, maybe add +30% range to control more ennemies with his 1

For the Atomos ( and i love this weapon, even before his Incarnon buff ), you can stick to Viral+heat, but you have a lot of useless mods here.
Put : Damage, multishot, multishot+fire rate, heat, cold, tox, status, and beam length. Beginer friendly modding, you can push it later with incarnon buff and advanced mods

[fervent seal]

I just discovered that if I use Thermal Sunder and Valence Formation on Hystrix I can force 3 effects on each shot.

[safe sandal]

I’ve always wondered how to change the colour scheme of ui for a while now

[crimson cedar]

+heat if you run tektolyst arcane, one more (heat instance, status guaranteed)

[fervent seal]

ho true! good to know!

[safe sandal]

A little while ago I wondering why my felarx was doing radiation dmg until I looked at the element placement and was doing gymnastics trying to get it back to corrosive viral

[crimson cedar]

Then try Koumei, with her passive, one guaranteed random elemental proc each shot ( multishot doesn't count sadly)

(msg for archy)

[dusky bane]

if you use epitaph instead, you can force 4

[safe sandal]

Do u have any tips on making volt more survivable?

[dusky bane]

learn how to shield gate

[safe sandal]

I do but it’s not enough

[dusky bane]

passive gate or active via speed

[cinder burrow]

Is there a lavos valence formation with a slam magistar build? How to build the magistar and what element is the best?

[fervent seal]

as a lavos mein i us gass in my valence formation manly bk it can refresh Evade subsume.

[cinder burrow]

Thanks, i like to use roar tho but i like gas to on my valence formation, how should i build my magistar then?

[fervent seal]

i havnt us the magistar much but, Electricity + melee Influence helps with the Evade bk it spreds the gass, allso the hole reson i us Evade is to benifit from the 3x crit of Arcane Crepuscular so going for crit wud be good.

[cinder burrow]

Thanks a lot

[simple frost]

best gauss prime build for casual use?

[opal leaf]

Still need for specifics

Nuking or Weapon Platformer

My "Casual" use is Weapon Platforming Gauss

[proud drift]

Question what's the best build for voruna prime? Like a casual/steel path build for her.

[simple frost]

nuking

[opal leaf]

@violet silo

Nuking is not really my favorite thing to do

[mossy jewel]

Hi everyone I am looking for friends to play with in warframe

[severe bough]

Weapons platform with heavy spam/light spam or slam/throw

Ig tho on casual sp her 4 can be somewhat good

[proud drift]

I see what mods do I use?

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-hello-there-well-gif-20156414

gus?

[opal leaf]

Yes, Gus

[violet silo]

the build I recommend. yes, you will start with low strength, and no, it does not matter

[opal leaf]

@simple frost ^

(pinged him twice for no god damn reason XDDD)

[tall silo]

what should i add/ remove for gauss?

[opal leaf]

Remove Transient fortitude, and add Umbral Intensify or just Intensify

[tall silo]

done anything else i should add?

[opal leaf]

Augur mods

I would like Augur Message or if it fits, Constitution

[violet silo]

continuity

or its prime

[tall silo]

gave archon one as dont have prime but the effect is the same

[opal leaf]

Yea that's better

For now as a placeholder

[tall silo]

is the aura slot fine?

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's fine

[tall silo]

alr thx massive help guys

[opal leaf]

Do any one have a reference build for Limbo?

[latent adder]

so i just tested, you need Bite and Hunter Synergy and a primary with at least 59% cc

[prime scarab]

Yeah, just pump crit on her primary with synergy and a halfway leveled bite is enough in my play for that

I didn't bother maxing my bite until like 2 days ago.

[formal tusk]

I am pretty sure im doing something wrong

[prime scarab]

Nidus wants range pretty badly imo

300 str also seems a bit overkill

[formal tusk]

This better?

[prime scarab]

Yeah, that looks better, I'd run that for a bit. Do you not like his other augs?

Nidus's augs are all pretty good imo so you could probably stand adding more in there somehow

[wary forge]

Why aren’t u on parasite vitality

[prime scarab]

Yeah that one specifically

It would let you drop blessing for grace too which is the better pick imo

[opal leaf]

Have at least Parasitic Vitality and Insatiable, those are good at least

[wary forge]

Abundant with out vitality makes even less sense

Also why equil and hunter just pick one

[opal leaf]

I mean if you wsnt infinite mutating lives then... Might as well not use it as it has a 30 second cooldown now

[wary forge]

The undying thing is fake

U just go for it the extra stacks

[opal leaf]

How come fake?

[wary forge]

Like you’re not dying on nidus when u have 20k hp lmao

[opal leaf]

Violence

Those are my only reason hahah I cannot kill acolytes that fast without a specific frame sooo ya

[wary forge]

That’s just build issue then

Plus even if u die u still get undying

You’re not gonna die within another 30 seconds

[velvet pulsar]

Does he not have any crowd control which can temporarily disable violence?

[prime scarab]

20k hp is what

40+ seconds?

You'll be fine

[velvet pulsar]

Also it's not like violence will spawn twice in a row, so save on call crew and throw it out when violence starts sending hate messages

[wary forge]

Yep

I mean you’re not getting 20k in normal mission but like still

At like 8400 hp with grace you’re not dying

[opal leaf]

Well you'll be out of health for 4 seconds tho

It cancels everything

[latent adder]

How is violence killing u

Don't u have the passive

[wary forge]

That’s what I’m trying to figure out

[latent adder]

Well i guess no stacks if multiplayer

[opal leaf]

Oh no that's not what I meant

I'm not dying I meant

30 seconds of undying

Unexpectedly the death gate is less than the cd so I am left having a small amount of health

Which Violence can have that big window of killing me

Parasitic Vitality? Those 9k stack I have will be gone after 4 seconds

[formal tusk]

I did a few shenanigans, does nidus max hp from parasitic vitality increase from blue shard hp?

[wary forge]

It scales off your base hp

[opal leaf]

Ya see where my problem is? Hahaha reason I didn't use Abundant Mutation

[wary forge]

And mutation stacks

[opal leaf]

100

[uneven halo]

is the shield recharge delay start to count when the shield is fully depleted or when the shield gate gone?

[opal leaf]

After 1 death gate I'm open free for a whole lot of seconds

[wary forge]

When it’s fully gone

[formal tusk]

So no multiplicative source for abundant mutation except getting ability strength for higher percentage on parasitic vitality

[opal leaf]

@wary forge help

[wary forge]

What’s there to help

Just kill violence

[formal tusk]

So ill have to build him for max ability strength and range

[uneven halo]

lol

[uneven halo]

just makes sure because i did the shield gate on vauban

[opal leaf]

Hmm... Good point.... Yeah I'm used the dual toxo

[wary forge]

U dont really need more then 100 duration on nidus imo

[opal leaf]

Mutation you meant?

[wary forge]

Nah ability duration

[opal leaf]

Wait huh? So I can abuse it by having not having ability durstion? I can abuse it as that?

[formal tusk]

Lowkey ill just wait for nidus rework before investing forma on him

I hope his virulence also gets a damn width buff on range mods

[wary forge]

all of his abilties are already really good base duration not to mention only 3 of them scale with it onlything durtation would really effect is just make ur larva last longer but its 7 secodns base so u should all ready be killing everything group and if not jsut recast it

[opal leaf]

But what about the Abundant Mutation

Is it a set timer?

[wary forge]

i think its set but the 30 sec cd just doesnt matter

[formal tusk]

And what benefits is just link and his 4th

Rework is also gonna render his larva pointless in duration cause recastable at will

[wary forge]

his link is like 60 seconds base or something

yep

[simple frost]

any good acceltra prime cold builds?

[wary forge]

so u would really jsut need duration depending on ur subsume ig

[formal tusk]

But his virulence will benefit from it cause it will linger for extra stacks

[deep grotto]

It starts when you run out of shield
And therefore regenerates during a shield gate

[uneven halo]

ok good to know

[wary forge]

wdym

[opal leaf]

Wait huh? But the parasitic link bonus health is gone after 4 seconds... I'm hit free for 26 seconds with only 900+ health only

[wary forge]

virulence doesnt have a duration nothing with it scales with it

[formal tusk]

In the rework, hence "will"

[wary forge]

oh i get u

[formal tusk]

It will linger after cast doing damage

And generating extra stacks

I hardcore smell a nerf on his parasitic vitality

Cause 500*4=2000% at 100% strength

Atp screw duration and efficiency, im building full strength on rework

[wary forge]

just spam it on a new enemy?

[warm obsidian]

Element bonus from Chromatic Blade won't combine with Exalted right?

[latent adder]

cant u just.. kill violence before any of that happens

[warm obsidian]

If my Emissive is Cold and I mod exalted with toxin
It won't become viral?

[wary forge]

if u break the link i think its longer then 4 secodns anyways but like for 95% of content it doesnt matter also if u dont plan on doing any endurance content then it really doesnt matter what u build u def dont need abudnant or parasitic

[latent adder]

i havent been silenced by violence in ages lol

[wary forge]

like ven just nidus with 1k hp and nothing at all is gonna be able to tank sp

[frigid crater]

Is that ninjase

[wary forge]

its just if u want to scale him to endurance missions or level cap ur gonna want to use those 2 augs they are still good outside of that imo tho since theres really not a reason to not use them

[opal leaf]

Hmm

[pearl pulsar]

Just like how the marked for death + damage decoy build works, in theory could you do something similar with tesla bank?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

And honestly, Tesla Bank works better

[pearl pulsar]

Looks like i gotta now build and feed vauban to the helminth

[opal leaf]

Huh....

[velvet pulsar]

The MFD damage decoy we discussed today

[opal leaf]

Ohhhh

[velvet pulsar]

Only loss is that Tesla Bank will only deal electric damage while MFD inherits damage type

However, Tesla Bank is more squad friendly than MFD

[quartz tartan]

when is electric damage a downside?

[velvet pulsar]

And has lesser limitations

[pearl pulsar]

Yeah thats true but if enemies still die does damage type really matter

[velvet pulsar]

Getting any damage type of choice > getting just electric damage

[quartz tartan]

Yeah, but, my questiuon is why not choose electric?

[velvet pulsar]

Getting any damage type of choice also means u can go for electric damage in that scenario

So u have more options in that build

[quartz tartan]

Yes, but why not choose electric?

[velvet pulsar]

I just said u can choose electric

However people like to modify damage type as per factions

[quartz tartan]

Yes, I'm asking the opportunity cost for electric specifically compared to other elements

[velvet pulsar]

And sometimes to proc archon mods like archon flow

(which is very niche)

[quartz tartan]

Because I was under the impression electric was just really good

[velvet pulsar]

Electric is good, even greater against murmur.

Heat is good, even greater against grineer or infested

neither MFD nor Tesla Bank ignores armor

You can take advantage of heat proc to reduce half of enemy armor

[quartz tartan]

oo, Uh, does MFD work with that heat inherit thing?

[velvet pulsar]

Pointless

[quartz tartan]

or do faction mods not work with the damage you get from MFD?

[velvet pulsar]

MFD nuke is affected by ability damage archon shards which buff similar to faction damage

Which means Toxin(Corrosive) & Electric ones double dip on DoTs

[quartz tartan]

not heat?

[velvet pulsar]

There is no heat ability damage shard.
But if the enemy is already primed, then yes.

[quartz tartan]

what did the orange one do, other than the radiation thing?

[velvet pulsar]

Say priming the enemy with electric from companion, and using heat ability, then heat will double dip on electric ability dmg shard

[velvet pulsar]

Nothing which buffs MFD or Tesla Bank

[peak crown]

what stance is best for double ichors?

[opal leaf]

Anything tbh

Just feel whatever is cool

[pearl pulsar]

If I'm running high duration on my loki is it worth picking thermal sunder and transfer over something like null star for a hot shot set up?

[velvet pulsar]

What companion u r running?

Coz companions can stack Hot Shot

[pearl pulsar]

Do purple ones have anything regarding buffa to tesla bank

[velvet pulsar]

Electric ability damage shards

[pearl pulsar]

I have a hound that has a fondness for room clearing thanks to contagious bond

I do have nautilus prime sitting around gathering dust however

[velvet pulsar]

I don't remember if explosions have status chance

[velvet pulsar]

Manifold Bond procs Hot Shot

So hound is an answer to both your questions

[velvet pulsar]

For Tesla Bank and for Hot Shot

[pearl pulsar]

Yeah I'm aware id use it on my silence set up but im running crepuscular and something else i can't remember

[brittle iron]

is it worth using pure toxin over viral for primary blight

[pearl pulsar]

So should i put something like roar there and rely on my hound for hs stacking?

[velvet pulsar]

U can outsource viral priming

[velvet pulsar]

U can

[brittle iron]

ok cool

wait i just realized i already do on my follie build

[velvet pulsar]

That setup might end up allowing ur hound to nuke TBH

[brittle iron]

hell yes

[pearl pulsar]

Already does. I had a roar set up ages ago and my hound hit damage cap multiple times

But it still nukes without roar

Ig thats just contagious bond doing its thing tho

[velvet pulsar]

Keep it hushed but, contagious bond multi-dips on roar

[dire wolf]

Doesn't everything at this point

[velvet pulsar]

As in, everytime it spreads from one enemy to another, it'll get buffed by roar again

So unlike other things, this one can stack infinitely.

[pearl pulsar]

Good job my loki can reach 100+% buff on roar

Looks like ill have to dust it off

[pearl pulsar]

Here's a fun fact, loki's second doesn't need the condition satisfied to gain the +60% from concentration...

But i didn't say that

[scarlet mason]

Any gyre main here?

[tender forge]

noo but do you need help?

[north pumice]

Anyone has a build for Hate?

[tender forge]

do you have augment?

[north pumice]

Burning hate?

[tender forge]

yes

[north pumice]

Yes

[marble marten]

Some1 said Loki

[tender forge]

there are several ways to go what is the goal

[north pumice]

Steel path

Completing sp

[opal leaf]

That's too broad

Light attack or Heavy attack

[north pumice]

Ohh light mostly

[opal leaf]

Basic influence slop

[tender forge]

you probly want to run reach speed and heat with augment

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, similar to u today, someone was trying MFD loki, and asked if Tesla Bank could also work in same logic.

I said yes, it can work better.

[north pumice]

Okay thx

[marble marten]

I think I'll forget about that build, since I never play alone

[north pumice]

Should I use primed pressure point tho

[velvet pulsar]

Unlike MFD, Tesla Bank is squad friendly.

[tender forge]

you can run affliction to rid foder

[tender forge]

if your building elements then yes base damage good if you got room

[north pumice]

👍

[velvet pulsar]

Chances are that nukes of Tesla Bank will be triggered by your squadmates instead of you, but the kills will be considered as yours after the nuke anyway.

[marble marten]

Vauban skill?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, with augment

[tender forge]

if you run electric for influnce you get radiation on incarnon darts

[velvet pulsar]

And Tesla Bank has lesser limitations.

[marble marten]

What did that ability do, launch an air strike? Or am I mistaken?

[tender forge]

if you use pet to trigger influence then build Hate for heat then you can spread heat with influnce without electric and have augment work

[solar reef]

or just use Shock Trooper

[marble marten]

I want to try Nidus Skill + Pox Coda, or Magistar Incarnon

[opal leaf]

It booms everyone in a 20 (25m?) radius when someone shot it or get hit by it

[velvet pulsar]

Nope.
Launch 4 orbs which attach to enemies, killing them detonates AoE which scales with their health.

[tender forge]

not everyone wants shocktrooper aug taking slots

[solar reef]

cope

[opal leaf]

Aight it's confirmed it's scales by health (I'm too scared to say it bc someone might say I'm wrong and idk how to defend it hahaha)

[tender forge]

dont make me feed my helment with volt out of spite. Oh i did that already

[opal leaf]

SpecOps and You are the ones who said it's scale by health sooo ya

[modest vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354750049929924660/1503779334534729870/nk-image-edit-uncaption-7rnzwej5.gif

[marble marten]

Vauban can only be obtained in the night wave, right?

[opal leaf]

Yes, the base one

[tender forge]

or relics for prime

[opal leaf]

It's given that primes are in relics

[solar reef]

and circuit but thats a waste of time compared to NW shop

[marble marten]

Nah, only for helminth

[velvet pulsar]

This is subsuming in question

[tender forge]

then just wait for duviri.

[velvet pulsar]

[opal leaf]

Nw is easier, at start have 150 creds

[solar reef]

its way faster to just get NW credits

[velvet pulsar]

Vauban is almost evergreen frame

[marble marten]

I'm disappointed with the Plinx lol, I compared it to another weapon and... you waste too much time killing enemies

[solar reef]

god i love the plinx

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-good-job-patpat-gif-25554349

[solar reef]

gas plinx + t. ferrox

[velvet pulsar]

With tesla bank, u don't need to build single shot weapons

U can use any high damage weapon

[tender forge]

Big sister complex

[marble marten]

Testicles go brrr

[velvet pulsar]

I still haven't tested it to this day if T.Ferrox alt fire can proc this (the no AoE part is a lie)

[marble marten]

It does quite a bit of damage with elec and viral , so from what I've been testing, it's what does the most damage

[strange dragon]

cyte sobek is quite something

[tender forge]

you could replace with rice ball and there is no difference

[solar reef]

“grass is green”

[opal leaf]

Nic3

[tender forge]

i did a radiation thing with max range 10% strength equinox

[tender forge]

👀

[opal leaf]

Switch Teleport

Loki (the frame itself) is a troll

[marble marten]

Me with +200% range with Loki ready for a good switch

[tender forge]

loki would be better if radiation allows Crowd control on overguard enemies

[solar reef]

some of yall clearly new to loki trollage

should have been there when PoE first came out

[opal leaf]

Nah

Damage Decoy is good as a priming but without mind control (Nyx subsume) it'll be very hard to manage them bc they won't be focusing on The Decoy anymore

Mind control sort of catches their attention again hahahha

[marble marten]

It's a shame that when you use Loki's ult with radiation, the enemies don't take damage, but that's a problem with the radiation itself

[opal leaf]

Fax...

Thatsbthe only problem for Damage Decoy, radiation

That's why the only way for it to counter (sort of) is Mind Control

[tender forge]

yea. i just want to proc radiation then use affliction to beat down overguard enemies like the OG Affliction before patch

[marble marten]

I wish his ult applied all the status effects lol

Even microwave 😭

[solar reef]

“Hey heres this arcane practically hand built to deal with big health pool enemies through status”

“hey sorry but you cant use it against enemies with attenuation or even eximus now”

[opal leaf]

Or gamma wave

[marble marten]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-thor-gif-14153628655061184216

Loki players without energy

[tender forge]

let radiation allow CC of the Field bosses and overguard.

[solar reef]

oberon players gonna go ham

[velvet pulsar]

The current problem with radiation is that enemy vs enemy damage starts getting better after lvl 500

[opal leaf]

Literally Oberon and Qorvex are the ones who can do it hahhaha

[tender forge]

so. even qurvexs 2 would be better

[velvet pulsar]

Nyx

[opal leaf]

And her

[solar reef]

god i love oberon

[velvet pulsar]

Does Oberon specter use his passive?

[solar reef]

hes like revenant but im still allowed to make fun of revenant because I’m oberon

[velvet pulsar]

I guess you'll like Nyx then

[solar reef]

not for me

mind control can stick to Loki

[velvet pulsar]

Basically same logic for nyx

[solar reef]

not interested in Nyx’s playstyle

[opal leaf]

I was thinking of that with Dagath hahaha

[solar reef]

dagath still requires some gating

[marble marten]

Qorvex Prime would cost 600pl 🥀

[tender forge]

if radiation allowed for overguard enemies to be pushed around not distracted, or immobilized. radiattion would be much better

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, on day 1

[opal leaf]

A bit

A Nataruk on their heads, make doom can be used again :3

[solar reef]

he’d be 25p on day 6

[velvet pulsar]

On lvl cap, an AoE radiation primer translates into nuke

[hushed owl]

might change serration for galv scope since a friend suggested it; it's a cold/gas latron wraith incarnon build due to the riven

[marble marten]

I'm sure it will be very sexy, since it's a piece of stone

[wary forge]

in solo dagath is basically rev

[solar reef]

Oberon’s 2 turning 3 tiles into radiation priming

[velvet pulsar]

Unfortunately below lvl 500, nope

[wary forge]

def dont do gas

also why r u seration semi canoonade and merciless

[solar reef]

I actually quite like gas on it for Mag bubbles

[opal leaf]

True that

[hushed owl]

oh wait that's the wrong one lmao

that's heat/viral my b

[opal leaf]

Holy Diminishing Returns 🥀

[hushed owl]

its reaganomics

it do go down

[hushed owl]

its a placeholder until i figure out what to do

[solar reef]

not a single mention of the two best spy frames

or the funny haha spy companion

[opal leaf]

Wukong I'm sure is one

[solar reef]

wukong and limbo

[marble marten]

Pavlov spy 🥀

[solar reef]

or just bring a moa

[velvet pulsar]

Security Override + Master's Summons

[opal leaf]

Ooo I'm getting Limbo next week fr

He is the next one I have in mind

[marble marten]

Pavlov or aten? 😭

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/19AA6LbpKPo?si=k57fjwa_x2WvWUkv

[marble marten]

Prepare to receive insults in the chat 😭

[opal leaf]

Heh, they won't see me in Pubs

I'm a Soloist at heart!

99% of the game I solo that shiz

[opal leaf]

Everything I earn.... Is mostly soloed

[solar reef]

the only mode i solo generally is Kuva Disruption

[velvet pulsar]

In my experience with years of playing limbo, never received a single insult but just 3 requests.

[solar reef]

need more relics

[opal leaf]

Except no one can see me

I'll math so hard they won't see me coming >:3

[marble marten]

Apparently, Limbo makes games longer even if you use it correctly

[opal leaf]

Teach me Limbo, how did you use Limbo?

[velvet pulsar]

Having several different builds

[opal leaf]

How so?

[opal leaf]

Hmm what's the most common? The general use

And do you have subsume over it?

[velvet pulsar]

Lets start with where limbo shines the most, defensive + index hybrid build

[marble marten]

I use it in Archimedes with the Nexus mod to have energy all the time

[opal leaf]

Ah so more on Survivability only

[velvet pulsar]

Well of Life on his 3 for defense + index dual purpose.

[solar reef]

Limbo is one of two frames that I’d confidently take to level cap defense (if i were weird enough to do that)

[opal leaf]

Immediately off the list as I don't have Wrrll of Life hahaha

[wary forge]

i would jsut latron mod or elementalist

factiond mod is bis

[velvet pulsar]

Along with Pool of Life augment.

[opal leaf]

Yeah I don't have that subsume yet.

So that's off the list hahha

[marble marten]

I removed Limbo's number 1 ability and gave him Oberon's, to destroy the Eximus quickly, since they don't freeze in time

[solar reef]

smite so GOATed

[hushed owl]

double tap right? I was looking at replacing serration with it

[velvet pulsar]

That's my offensive build

Except I subsumed over his 3

[marble marten]

Lol why 3

[opal leaf]

Smite over Limbo huh

[velvet pulsar]

Smite is unaffected by 3rd ability augment after rework

When I can already do great with smite, I don't need hybrid build of weapon platform

[marble marten]

Skill 3 ended up giving me 6000% damage 😭

[opal leaf]

Hold on, Limbo can weapon platform?

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah with Rift Torrent augment

[marble marten]

What is Smite? I'm not an expert on Limbo, although I know how to use it lol

[velvet pulsar]

Smite used to be a weapon damage class ability before its rework, and was affected by Rift Torrent.

After rework, it is used on Limbo for overguard removal.

[solar reef]

smite does ehp% and removes all defenses

its also one handed 🤑

[velvet pulsar]

It's similar to reave in terms of damage output but you know where it differs

[opal leaf]

Oh

[solar reef]

Roar + Smite + Rad Shards 🤑

[velvet pulsar]

Unlike reave, it doesn't need extremely high strength

[solar reef]

smite caps at like 215% strength

[velvet pulsar]

Red or Topaz?

Oh u said Rad

[solar reef]

I use 2 topaz shards (ability dmg on enemies affected ny Radiation), 2 Cast Speed, and one Parkour Speed

[velvet pulsar]

Lemme check my other limbo builds

[solar reef]

on oberon

[opal leaf]

Here is the real question

How do you use Oberon

[solar reef]

dont know how you’d do it for limbo

[opal leaf]

Limbo

Fck

[solar reef]

throw down 2
use 1 on enemies
they die

[opal leaf]

I meant Limbo hahaha

[velvet pulsar]

Funny enough

[velvet pulsar]

Same advice for limbo

Except they don't die

They lock

[solar reef]

ive seen a tragic amount of people subsuming over Oberon’s 4 instead of his 3

like its so handy for acolytes and such

[velvet pulsar]

If a hound can cast loki's 4, there's no reason to keep it

[opal leaf]

Wait huh? OK so here's how I thought of it

1 towards the enemies

And then transfer rift then 2....?

[solar reef]

I meant Oby

[marble marten]

I don't know which weapon to get, I think I'll upgrade the Bassocyst, how good is it?

[solar reef]

Loki chat still in head

[solar reef]

Its a better Tenet Plasmor

unless you’re playing Mag

then Plasmor is better

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[opal leaf]

So I need to use the Dodge all the time

So it's Transfer, Kill, Repeat????

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Oh my... Hmm

That's the whole gameplay?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes.

For base kit

Throw enemies into rift, freeze them, go inside rift, kill them.

1, 3, and 4 has the exact same function but in different ways.
While 2 animation locks enemies.

[opal leaf]

So can I still banish them while I'm inside the rift

[velvet pulsar]

Enemies outside rift cannot be banished from inside rift

That's the risky part

However, smite utterly removes risk because Limbo can skip all that and just dodge to enter rift to be immune to enemies, and then spam smite while your hound primes to weaken enemies because Synergized Prospectus can bypass rift.

[velvet pulsar]

There are other ways to bypass damage through Limbo's rift in order to replicate the same playstyle.

Like my personalized build, Wrathful Advance/Roar with Okina.

[opal leaf]

Hmmm

[velvet pulsar]

You subsume that either on 1 or 4.
You run Okina with blast status and self sustain focused build in order to recover the incarnon daggers, because the seeking daggers can hit through rift

Melee influence also hits through rift

[opal leaf]

Where do you put Smite?

[velvet pulsar]

I subsumed Smite on his 3 because I didn't need a hybrid build.

[marble marten]

Is any Tenet weapon really worth it instead of a Coda or Incarnon?

[velvet pulsar]

Tenet Cycron or Glaxion

[opal leaf]

Hmm

So it's a safer route

Hide then spam smite

Would you be able to get energy too?

[velvet pulsar]

Even Tenet Quanta

[marble marten]

I have nukor so..

Glaxion vs torid? Lol

[velvet pulsar]

Pressing 4 can create bubble around me to collect orbs, or I can step out of rift, or I can press 5 to collect orbs for my frame.

Also Mystic Bond because u don't need active shield gate in this case

[velvet pulsar]

Do u have the nightwave augment?

[marble marten]

For glax?

[velvet pulsar]

If not, then take either Tenet Envoy or Tenet Quanta

[marble marten]

I don't have that, I usually buy everything directly on wm lol, although I couldn't buy it on Nw right now either

[old marsh]

All Tenet melees, Envoy, Tetra, Glaxion, Plinx

Everything else has either a better Kuva or Coda version or isn’t really worth the grind

[violet silo]

arca plasmor is occasionally better than bassocyst

[brittle sleet]

I'd probably only call the Tenet Exec and Grigori possibly worth the grind out of the melees tbh

Tenet Exec for unique slam style and Grigori for its heavy attack's interaction with Magnetize

[solar reef]

torid will outperform every other beam weapon in the game

Glaxion has the bonus of being meta for Index and its augment provides energy sustain

[violet silo]

how does boar compare to torid?

[solar reef]

it doesnt really

[violet silo]

I've never tested them side by side

Ik boar's incarnoff is leagues ahead of torid's

[marble marten]

What type of weapon is the torid, like the nukor?

[violet silo]

yeah

[solar reef]

chaining beam weapon of doom and despair

[brittle sleet]

Incarnoff Torid is a gas grenade launcher

Also it's an infested weapon if that was relevant to your question

[solar reef]

Furis is the best beam weapon but being ST puts it out of the debate here

[marble marten]

There's a coda weapon, I don't remember the name... that shot gastric shit, but it didn't chain like the Nukor and others

[brittle sleet]

If you're thinking a Coda beam, then I believe you're thinking of the Synapse

[marble marten]

Ye

[marble marten]

She's currently in rotation, right? Should I get?

[solar reef]

Shoot for it

Furax is the only weapon i wouldnt recommend this week and its still good

[brittle sleet]

Bo over Furax? Really?

I suppose there's a solid argument that people don't really use the incarnon when they use Furax and it's just used for the amalgam mod statsticking your secondary so I can see it actually

[mental night]

this is solid enough for Wisp Prime im thinking

[opal leaf]

I see

OK @velvet pulsar (sorry for pinging)

As far as I can tell

This is how his gameplay goes (Limbo)

1 to push anyone inside the Banish

Press 2 to freeze them

(I suppose these 2 skills are scaled on Range aside durstion)

Shift to enter the Rift and kill

3 will be replaced with Smite (unless there is a reason for it to be stayed aside it to be able to platform the gun)

4 to make both worlds operate in one bubble

Am I getting all of them right?

So in building this guy

Strength may not be important

Range and Duration migjt be his style

[mental night]

you can also alternatively go with this gameplay for Limbo
go into arsenal
unequip limbo

[opal leaf]

Nah I wanna learn Limbo, he is in next week circuit

[mighty flare]

both expertise & bellicose arent good for wisp, id look at suggestions here: #1499764153710284970 message
4 is pretty awful without its augment, but also wants range so wouldn't slot narrow with it

[mental night]

her 4 doesnt have an augment

[solar reef]

dreamers bond is a waste and expertise isnt a great option

bellicose is also just like

[mighty flare]

it does, i suggest you look at guide link i put it

[solar reef]

use augmented instead

[opal leaf]

Do you use Limbo Malz?

[mental night]

oh, google lied to me

[solar reef]

no

hes actually like one of 3 frames i dont have primed

ive never played him i just have a general understanding of him

[opal leaf]

Ah damn I want a quick confirmation of his playstyle hahaha

[opal leaf]

Oh maybe you can help me

[solar reef]

probably not

im no more helpful than wiki would be

[opal leaf]

Hmmm

Damn I need AST here but he maybe occupied, I don't want to bother him

[viscid bane]

Should I replace something with Primed Cryo or nah?

[solar reef]

yikes that - hurts

[formal tusk]

Minus the dreamers bond

[opal leaf]

Idk if gapt is needed in dread in the first place

And that Riven kinda hurts....

[viscid bane]

Not really, evo 2 gives 30% projectile speed

[opal leaf]

Oh wait it works? Malz????

[viscid bane]

incarnon has multiCO

[opal leaf]

Gapt works on Dread Incarnon?

[opal leaf]

OK so they operate differently from guns

Good to know

[viscid bane]

Yea bows get tons of good exceptions to usual rules.

[solar reef]

it still hurts

dread incarnon is already a slow projectile

you’re still -26%

[opal leaf]

Dread kinda wants his projectile speed

I heard a lot of times that it's comparable to Nataruk bc of IBPT

[queen parcel]

how am i supposed to build the ack and brunt?

[old marsh]

regular influence for highest ad clear

[viscid bane]

I personally don't have any problems with it. maybe I'm just used to it

[queen parcel]

ad clear?

[old marsh]

mobs

[solar reef]

additional enemies clear

[queen parcel]

right

[mental night]

what do i replace for her 1 augment?