builds-discussion

[fierce lark]

DA?

if you're referring to damage attenuation that barely exists in the game anymore

also no, high multishot weapons are what we used to bypass it

[granite steppe]

My caliban build i need change something ?

[hollow plover]

where would nautilus or verglas be useful?

[velvet pulsar]

Verglas for ExA and other high level content with Duplex bond clones where u don't need priming.

Nautilus for builds which want grouping enemies

ExA because randomized builds, so u outsource a high damage source from your companion instead

[solar reef]

needs range

[granite steppe]

less power more range ?

[hollow plover]

I see, where do i unlock ExA

i have been hearing about it for a while

[solar reef]

drop narrow minded for something like rolling guard for status clear

you can make up for that strength through shards

other than that it looks great

[velvet pulsar]

ETA is in 1999
and EDA is in Sanctum Anatomica (deimos)

[hollow plover]

do i need max standing for them?

like profit taker

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly I don't remember

[solar reef]

you should be R5 with them anyways

[velvet pulsar]

I went to max rank before unlocking them

[eternal glacier]

Guys how do i get arcane hot shot

[solar reef]

ETA/Bought with pix

or Loid

[eternal glacier]

How do i unlock her or loid

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[eternal glacier]

Man i am a bot

[solar reef]

yes

if you dont know what those are you probably dont need HotShot

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/788587329240563755/1180131086391590952/caption.gif

[velvet pulsar]

I just said

[eternal glacier]

Ik bro but when i go to 1999 i can find her nor loid

[deep grotto]

Rank 5 Cavia and Rank 5 Hex

[hollow plover]

rip, rank 1 cavia amd rank 3 hex

[chrome badge]

Petrichor as in Petricor V?

[deep grotto]

Max rank and max standing are actually two different things

[hollow plover]

mb

[glass moon]

is this good

[eternal glacier]

Kuva sobek 36% toxin how much is it worth

[viscid bane]

@solar reef Sorry for ping but can I get your Voruna+Syam set builds?

I've been trying to replicate your results but I can't get Integer Overflow. "Only" hitting for 1.5 bil

[chrome badge]

Dmg cap

[viscid bane]

I know it sounds like "my steak is too spicy" ahh problem but I want the funny number

[chrome badge]

The saying is “my steak is too juicy”

And there’s no problem with wanting dmg cap

[viscid bane]

Isn't it "lobster is too juciy"?

[velvet pulsar]

Except DE will hate u

[chrome badge]

Ahhhhhh potato tomato 🙂‍↔️

[velvet pulsar]

[viscid bane]

I've hit dmg cap before but I want integer overflow specifically

[chrome badge]

DE can’t hate me, even if they wanted to

If they did, they would’ve in the past 8 years

[copper patio]

Can someone help me with a lavos prime build that uses his augments?

[chrome badge]

https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1470055820849975390

:3

[copper patio]

I know how he works i need a build of mods

[novel bear]

Caster or weapons platform?

[copper patio]

I have the mod that gives status to his weapons

[static sphinx]

What is the best element for tenet plinx?

[copper patio]

That's what im looking but also caster would help

[novel bear]

That one is unaffected by strength, so unless you’re using a subsume just build for duration
And then use passive shield gating, persistence, or standard health tanking for survivability

[copper patio]

Ok

[static sphinx]

Alright thanks

[copper patio]

For the cedo is better primary ubercharge or primary cruelty ?

[undone dust]

my steak is too juicy and my lobster is too buttery

[copper patio]

I don't have the prime so i use de normal

[undone dust]

what the hell is primary cruelty

[copper patio]

Arcane? My english is not good

[viscid bane]

Prob translation from another language, my assumtion it's merciless

[undone dust]

that would actually make sense

[viscid bane]

Most builds I've seen use primary blight because of forced procs on alt fire

[undone dust]

you can use frostbite or blight but blight is just better and cooler

[copper patio]

Primary mercyless*

[novel bear]

For lavos the first one doesn’t work, because no energy

[copper patio]

Then mercyless it is

[chrome badge]

Who tf is using cold sobek on saryn and cyte

[viscid bane]

to make viral with toxin mods

[chrome badge]

No

Saryn already has viral from her 1

Cyte rather use Elec which is better for acid shells

[viscid bane]

no it's corro

[chrome badge]

I must be thinking of her 3 then

[copper patio]

I thought saryn used toxin

[viscid bane]

3 is pure toxin

[solar reef]

her 3 is lash

[chrome badge]

Ok im larping holy hell

[solar reef]

her 4 does viral but its oriented towards caster nuking

Nourish is just a better slot-in

[chrome badge]

But cold sobek?

[viscid bane]

and you subsume roar over it anyway for Sobek

[solar reef]

subsumed with either nourish or roar

in the case of roar, you’d use cold

[chrome badge]

My apologies tardy, I must’ve not gotten the memo

[copper patio]

I have saryn prime but im not doing anything with her cuz i don't know how it works, well kinda i understand her abilties but i don't know how or what to use when putting mods to her

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/larp-larping-coal-alarm-gem-gif-558142585063610704

[chrome badge]

Is that meant for me

[solar reef]

weapons platformer or caster nuke

[viscid bane]

Dude can i get your Voruna+Syam builds?

[copper patio]

I prefer nuking i guess

[solar reef]

Roar generally better than WA at this point since her 1 actually works now

drop the blue shard if using prime

slot a casting shard

[viscid bane]

I just want dmg cap tbh

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/207018/saryn-prime/venomous-spores-saryn-steel-path-spores-hybrid-general-use/

Do note that saryn is probably the single best weapons platformer in the entire game

her nuke setup falls off in my experience

toxic lash is so busted

[copper patio]

So you recommend the weapon one?

[solar reef]

always

[copper patio]

So give me the build

[solar reef]

Shes actually better at nuking with weapons since she has synergy with acid shells

[copper patio]

K

[undone dust]

use detron to shoot yourself in the foot

[solar reef]

apps acting up cant give mine

https://overframe.gg/build/226696/saryn-prime/lashing-venom-weapon-platform-saryn-easy-lazy-gate-strongest-weapon-buff/

heres the ninjase set up

[copper patio]

Thanks

[solar reef]

toxic lash makes some stuff stupid

[chrome badge]

Toxic lash is doubled for melees

Saryn can be a melee frame

[solar reef]

makes one of the best melees in the game 5x as good

Dual Ichor saryn is so nuts

[copper patio]

Can i change catalizing shields? I don't like that mod

[solar reef]

Sobek Saryn is equally as nuts

why not

[chrome badge]

She can improve Halikar Wraith?! Wot?!

[undone dust]

jat kittag saryn!!

[copper patio]

I don't like it, idk is weird? Or atleast in my perspective

[solar reef]

ok but why

its essential to gating

[undone dust]

especially because molt is just peak gating

[solar reef]

if you cant shield gate saryn likely isnt for you, off the rip

i guess you could do persistence saryn but thats just cope

[undone dust]

regenerative molt!!

all roads lead to molt spam

[copper patio]

Yeah but i don't like it beacuse i don't know how to recover Quickly the shields if i don't have mold augmented

[solar reef]

so true and real

[solar reef]

read what the mods do

thats a lazy gate build

Vig Vigor and Fast Deflection

[viscid bane]

Can always slot 2 auger mods into secondary and cast 2

[copper patio]

I dont have molt mods so il change em for something else for the moment

[solar reef]

catalyzing shields is literally one of the best mods in the game

i hope they never patch it

[copper patio]

Arcane aegis i can get it with ordis

[copper patio]

Yeah probably but.... I sold al the ones i had cuz i didn't like it

So uh... Yeah i might need to get another somehow

[solar reef]

you just have to know how it works

[undone dust]

guys how do i gate :clueless:

[solar reef]

but yeah saryn needs gating

shes super fragile

[undone dust]

shield tank saryn meta, trust

[solar reef]

thankfully molt is super spammable 🤑

[solar reef]

i actually played around with a max shields ash recently

[chrome badge]

Ballas knower ^

[undone dust]

super hell

[copper patio]

Now the problem is catalyzing shields is 15pl i just have 6pl and tho i can farm in deimos with the keys its anoying

[solar reef]

Arcane Expertise + Melee Retaliation

It was neat when it worked

[chrome badge]

Farm in deimos

[solar reef]

it was annoying trying to get shields back up to see the numbers i want

[undone dust]

i forgot retaliation existed

[solar reef]

yeah

[chrome badge]

It’s not just vosfor trash?!

[solar reef]

since ash doesnt really want any other melee arcanes other than raw

its actually a nice set up

ultimately i decided i’d rather just run exposure

lower final numbers but way more consistant

[undone dust]

i love raw

melee hildryn build STAT

[chrome badge]

Health tank hildryn is where it’s at

[undone dust]

true...

[solar reef]

i wish shadows didnt have such dogshit SC

5% base is so attrociously bad, having to use Proton Snap to cope with it is lame as hell

[chrome badge]

I wish ash wasn’t just bad

[solar reef]

i love him to death

hes still my most used after 9 years

but god he sucks

[vital glade]

why

[solar reef]

hes a snail

[quiet laurel]

did DE announce changes coming with his proto

[chrome badge]

His invis sucks

[solar reef]

his invis is fine

its arguably his only good ability

[chrome badge]

In comparison to anything else though

[undone dust]

but but shuriken is peak though!!

[quiet laurel]

so skin is either gonna sell horribly or DE is gonna make changes

[chrome badge]

Iirc it has less duration than Loki

[solar reef]

same duration now

[chrome badge]

Oh?

[copper patio]

Yep the main trade chat is full of scammers, one guy was offering me venom dose for 35pl

[solar reef]

new players think hes good since he does big numbers

[chrome badge]

Too bad the sustain is terrible

[mighty flare]

Ash proto had weird crotch texture imo

[mortal gyro]

guys can anyone please help with a laetum high dps build?

[solar reef]

ash is super sustainavle

[undone dust]

of course you were looking there

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[solar reef]

dirt cheap to cast invisibility
you dont use either shuriken or his 3

you’re basically just maintaining his 4 which is no problem

[mighty flare]

Well yea, his clothing/skin looked weird overall, just much more noticeable there

[chrome badge]

I mean maybe im bad but I cannot use his 4 or 3 ever if I build for duration on him

[mighty flare]

Like a cheap cosplay somehow

[undone dust]

no you just like boy parts

[quiet laurel]

I remember when shuriken was the shit when it comes to subsumes cause of the armor strip in disruption

[solar reef]

the cowl is awesome but nothing else matches it

[mighty flare]

Well yeah

[undone dust]

LMAO

[quiet laurel]

now you question why shuriken even exists

[solar reef]

now its just worse than a corrosive shard

[undone dust]

you can spread viral with it guys!! it's awesome!

[chrome badge]

It exists to be subsumed over

[solar reef]

armor strip should be innate to the ability and the augment should be ricochet

[mighty flare]

Or big shuriken

Like Naruto

[solar reef]

greninja

[undone dust]

give shurikens a headshot multi and make them do cool damage

[solar reef]

also with inf. punch through

[quiet laurel]

wont change much

big single target dmg is such a nothing burger nowadays

[mighty flare]

That is just Nezhas chakram but worse

[solar reef]

but yeah his 4 shouldn’t be capped at 150% AS

[undone dust]

good thing it can hit multiple enemies now

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-angry-furious-fuming-mad-gif-17841869167183441241

[solar reef]

but yeah i have him at 20% usage

my hatred comes from love

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[undone dust]

if ash asked you to marry him would you say yes

[mighty flare]

No

[solar reef]

we’d be like a trailer park family

❤️

[undone dust]

will you marry me

[mighty flare]

Sure

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-gif-25904419

[chrome badge]

Bison Steak or Infusion

[mighty flare]

BSteak

repping

[chrome badge]

Nah no way

[hollow plover]

gus prim shard?

[mighty flare]

Duration and parkour

[spring radish]

Hi all i need opnions on the latron build, im currently using this on nova with Xaku subsume which is better ?

[hollow plover]

4 duration and 1 parkour good?

or 3 duration and 2 parkour?

[mighty flare]

Whatever feels better

[viscid bane]

Sorry for late reply, I got screwed by syndicate medallion that I spent an hour seeking. What are good replacements for faction mod? (currently have amalgam organ shatter)

[hard sequoia]

If i would helminth my jade whats the best ability to put and replace ?

[chrome badge]

Ophanim eyes

Over her 3

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-ball-gif-12997068823144907113

[old marsh]

Roar on her 2 or 3. Whichever ability u use the least

Basically to buff her Glory

[gritty hound]

what can I put in the last slot (hound weapon)

[old marsh]

Bot. Plz help

😭 Ordis is broken

[fierce lark]

mortis

[hard sequoia]

Wouldn’t nourish will be stronger ?

[old marsh]

Nah. It’s a cool subsume but for Glory, Roar

[novel bear]

Amalgam organ shatter is the best replacement there

[fierce lark]

nourish is good if you run into energy issues

also lets you run corro heat to slot primed convulsion

[novel bear]

Also, if you were going to put a faction mod on, it would be better over blood rush, and sac steel over galv

[atomic prism]

how is this build? im mainly wanting feedback on the arcane, i wanna hybridize going against bosses and grunts

[glass moon]

is the furax incarnon good

[atomic prism]

relative to other incarnons its not so great, but to all weapons yeah

[glass moon]

better dps than the praedos?

[velvet pulsar]

Not for damage

[glass moon]

damn

[velvet pulsar]

It's better as outburst utility
Because one of the incarnon perks has "combo duration paused when holstered"

[glass moon]

damn

alr

oh wait it has that one mod thats good for secondary exalted weaps right

amalgam something

[velvet pulsar]

Exactly

Peak outburst setup uses Rauta + furax wraith incarnon + amalgam furax body count + your crit secondary of choice with outburst

Or u can use crescendo stacking but I personally don't like it coz of the stacking speed and limitations.

[glass moon]

since it works for secondaries

itll work on dantes right

or are tomes a special case

[mighty flare]

what

[velvet pulsar]

It'll work

[velvet pulsar]

The incarnon gimmick barely scales with anything.

[novel bear]

Furax is fine for damage
It’s not top tier, but it’ll kill

Most of the evos suck

[mighty flare]

you just treat gimmick as extra, furax incarnon one of top influence light attackers

[velvet pulsar]

If picking furax for damage, there are several better incarnon melee options

Furax shines in utility

[mighty flare]

not even that "influence is always good" furax is one of best for it

[mighty flare]

what

[mighty flare]

its one of the best rn, dmg wise & utility too

[velvet pulsar]

The flashing bleed perk can have utility with amalgam furax body count & relentless combination for combo stacking.

But that's very niche.

[subtle solstice]

how can i increase my survivability?

[spiral chasm]

rank 0 arcane aegis

[subtle solstice]

why rank 0?

[spiral chasm]

cuz the rank doesn matter

[subtle solstice]

anything else?

[spiral chasm]

thats probably it

maybe a senti with the shield regen mod

or like taxon

[subtle solstice]

a senti?

[spiral chasm]

a drone

[subtle solstice]

ah

[spiral chasm]

taxon gives shields based on dmg

or smth like that

or u can cheese invis with cyte's evade

[subtle solstice]

hmmmm

[velvet pulsar]

20s cooldown & 10m range limit

Not worth it unless melee build

[glass moon]

would you consider it to be better than the praedos

damage wise

[mighty flare]

yes

[fierce lark]

praedos dps isn’t that good

[glass moon]

damn

[fierce lark]

but it has speedrunner evos

[glass moon]

what even is the best light attack influence melee

besides the nami solo since its like 1 month away

[fierce lark]

okina prime?

[mighty flare]

incarnons: nami solo, okina prime, dual ichor, furax wraith

[fierce lark]

innodem as well

[mighty flare]

below them yes

[glass moon]

alr

[velvet pulsar]

Ichor still has influence usage over vortex usage?

[glass moon]

i got the innodem but i aint a big fan of the jumping gimmick

sounds tedious needing to jump for better damage

what perks do i run on the furax wraith

just realized i put this on tier 5 and not 10 of circ rewards

[fierce lark]

you don’t have to use jump melees, the knife just does a lot of dmg

but the aimglide waves are hella fun (and they can headshot lmao)

[mighty flare]

Kill Joy + Moonrise Velocity + Absolute Dominion

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe Syam, Corufell (soon™ prime), & even verdilac?

[glass moon]

alr thanks

[mighty flare]

for what

[velvet pulsar]

I wish they dealt good damage coz my ivara was taking advantage of that

[fierce lark]

they do pretty good damage :L

[glass moon]

are there any good sparring melees

[velvet pulsar]

Not good enough

[fierce lark]

the best one rn is prob coda hirudo

it’s ok

[glass moon]

damn

[mighty flare]

both hirudos and prisma obex (with incarnon when it comes out)

[glass moon]

is there any upcoming new incarnon

[glass moon]

what gimmick does the obex incarnon have

[velvet pulsar]

Kinda pushing hopes now

[mighty flare]

its not out yet

[fierce lark]

obex incarnon will likely be good, incarnons usually are

[velvet pulsar]

See now u r getting asked the impossible questions

[glass moon]

thought they showed it in one of the devstreams already

just couldnt find any clips

[velvet pulsar]

Only stug

[mighty flare]

at worst the incarnon will just be a stat boost which would push it above other options

[viscid bane]

I pray it's not gonna be a slam focused one

[velvet pulsar]

Too bad the chances of the incarnon synergizing with the augment are slim.

[glass moon]

crazy

will the stug incarnon good though based on what theyve shown

[velvet pulsar]

Damage quite high but it was a development build so no guarantees for now

The firing type is similar to Sporelacer secondary

[mighty flare]

aoe knockdown on ground finishers

[velvet pulsar]

I can see that

[mighty flare]

+finisher dmg evo

(for some reason multi with other finisher dmg boosters)

[viscid bane]

I'm still struggling to hit damage cap with that set up consistently. Usually in the ballpark of 1.5 bil

[glass moon]

if i use the furax incarnon on kullervo

should i swap out molt augmented for arcane strike

rn im running this on him

[novel bear]

Are you armor stripping and co priming?

[viscid bane]

Priming with Voruna's 2. Not sure what I can armor strip with though besides hoping to proc corro with 2 or offloading corro to companion

[karmic badger]

a hound with shattering impact can full strip

[signal wren]

which should i pick

[viscid bane]

Translation would help

[viscid bane]

Elaborate?

[signal wren]

daño is damagos and probabilidad de estado is status chance

damage*

[karmic badger]

hounds have melee weapons, you can put shattering impact on it, that's a form of armor strip independent of corrosive procs

[viscid bane]

right one ig. Miter is more of a utility weapon to remove nullifier bubbles imo so idk if rivening it is worth it

For weapons you usually want Crit chance/damage, base damage, multishot, firerate and preferrably a harmless negative

[viscid bane]

I gotta build a hound now

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[karmic badger]

i mean helios also has a melee weapon

[viscid bane]

I gotta forma Deconstructor now

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[umbral hemlock]

Boar riven: cd toxin or cd corro?

[novel bear]

Shattering impact on companions is not good strip
Use vicious bond

[glass moon]

should i replace molt augmented if i run a light attack melee

and replace it with arcane strike

[chrome badge]

no

the extra str for WA would do more your dmg than strike would, i think

wait is strike, attack speed

[glass moon]

YES

oops caps

but yeah strike is attack speed

[chrome badge]

why are you screaming at me ~

[glass moon]

i think you referring to arcane fury

[chrome badge]

yeah

[glass moon]

the damage one

lol

[chrome badge]

i think strike would be wonderful here

[glass moon]

but should i just swap molt aug out for strike

alr

thanks

[modest vector]

wat did ya swap in for shock trooper?

this kinda out of topic but liek the shocktrooper config if u dont mind me asking about it

[chrome badge]

def the 4

honestly id subsume the 3 out of all his abilities

sure yeah aoe nuke but the combo from his 4 is nice

[modest vector]

oops i meant like the mods since theres a augment mod for it

[solar reef]

analgam organ shatter works i guess but why not just keep smite grineer in there

[modest vector]

lowkey his 3 is by far the best move in da game its so fun

[solar reef]

it still one shots all reasonable content

[modest vector]

that just me tho

[solar reef]

even with that “empty” slot

[modest vector]

i like using it and hitting one enemy and others go poof

[solar reef]

attack speed is also a good slot in

[mint meadow]

Guys does Pressurized Magazine work with the Ocucor Sentient Surge?

[viscid bane]

I hate faction mods

and having a dead slot bugs me

[fringe creek]

is the orange radiation damage shard better than the red one? yes i apply radiation with abilities

[gleaming vapor]

context matters

[solar reef]

this is such cope

just learn to Roar I guess

[chrome badge]

nah i also hate faction mods

if im gonna do dmg, id rather do dmg to everyone without needing to change my mods each time

i dont hate faction mods themseelves i just hate the inconvenience

and the only faction mod id ever consider using would be anti-grineer

[crimson cedar]

nor orokin AF?

[chrome badge]

nah

lots of them spawn at a time in fissures so blast just deletes them

[crimson cedar]

what about fissures on orokin tileset ?

[pearl tusk]

Guys can someone help me mod my fulmin ? 🥹🥹

[crimson cedar]

what use/ ennemies levels

[gleaming vapor]

lowk the only factions that need faction mods are like

grineer and corrupted

the rest either don’t matter or don’t have their own faction mods

[frozen grail]

opinions on the Tigris? any good for a shotgun in comparison to others like the cedo/boar?

follow up question if it is any good tigris prime or sancti tigris?

[chrome badge]

its...okay

not a fan of the duplex action firing, it feels needless to exist

[novel bear]

Why not put amalgam organ shatter over blood rush?
Cheaper, makes it faster, does more damage

[quiet storm]

Thoughts on praedos as exalted statstick? (I accidently used 1 forma on it)

[chrome badge]

exalted statsticks dont exist no more

[quiet storm]

Set mods dont exist

Tennokai mods still work

[chrome badge]

uhhhhh i dont know if they can be stacked together like that

[mighty flare]

most of tennokai-sticking got patched, only the tennokai duration from opportunity's reach still works

[pine hinge]

anyone got a dante build i can look at

[severe bough]

Platformer/caster or pure dps noctua

[quiet storm]

Well, are there other mods to replace them?

[pine hinge]

caster

[fringe creek]

wisp mage build. i have an empty archon shard and im curios if i should add a red taufroged or orange tauforged with radiation damage. They are both 15% but one is damage the other is strenght

[gleaming vapor]

oranges are better in that case

but you also want cast shards

wisp with cat gate has a long ass cast time

[fringe creek]

you can press 4 again and cancel it

it still creates the sun

[violet silo]

nowhere near those two
maybe when it gets an incarnon

[severe bough]

roar over 1 second arcane slot is flex can be concentration molt augmented or energized. pure caster is very energy hungry bc u only spam tragedy so energized is not a bad option on top. Def use cast speed 2-3 tau shards or mabye drop umbral for natural talent other 2 shards can be pers preference. Exilus can be whatever

[old marsh]

😭 ignore the ping. Saw the pic later

Can use truculence. Free viral

[severe bough]

also dont be confused about platformer/caster u can also adjust this to go platformer which is basically just 2 mod swaps and arcanes

[severe bough]

all good XD

[severe bough]

also a option

[quiet storm]

Ok, I changed my build

[drowsy widget]

does anyone know if i put gladiator mods on my melee will the set effect still work on my iron staff prime

[pine hinge]

i didnt notice a change

[quiet storm]

Iron staff prime?

[drowsy widget]

wukong prime exalted

[quiet storm]

Oh that, that doesnt work anymore

Set bonuses in different melee weapons dont affect exatled anymore

[old marsh]

Ye

[wary forge]

yo can u give me some plat 🙂

[severe bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150797852029767781/1502555346613309440/image0.gif

If i sell my nami solo u can have some

[wary forge]

what is it

[severe bough]

As elec range - crit slide

[wary forge]

very nice

i just have a elec range minus cc on slide

[severe bough]

Yea bruh that was prob most luck i ever had

[wary forge]

w

[severe bough]

Alr talked with idk who it was in casc club he sad smth like 6k is okay the exact roll i have on wfm is 10k which idk about

I just see what i can do

I probably wont get it away in trade chat

there only low 🎱

[wary forge]

yeah idk if its worth that much

I thought it was just minus slash rivens that go for that much

[severe bough]

Ye same thought 10k is prob to much but i had luck on my random ballistica riv a month ago mabye i get it away for 9,500 on a random day😭

Im actually wondering what this dude did with the riv

[hollow plover]

any improvements needed?

[hexed spindle]

Wisp build pls someone ,?

[rancid mirage]

Is missing slot supposed to be fast deflection

[hollow plover]

missing slot is missing until i use a forma and fit something inside

i was following ninajses build and built range

[rancid mirage]

You could survive without inf shield regen bug but it’s nice to have fast deflection

[hollow plover]

but i was running platform gauss so range didnt make sense

[rancid mirage]

yea I also js run negative efficiency and range on my gauss

Full duration and little bit of str

[hollow plover]

can u show your build?

[rancid mirage]

One sec I ma go turn my pc on

[rancid mirage]

I am still considering things for base build

Also I have two casting, 2 duration, and one equilibrium shard

[hollow plover]

how does concentration work

[rancid mirage]

You dash or use other skill and get more duration for 3 sec

[sly island]

Is a ability cast

[rancid mirage]

I normally dash around so activating isnt problem

[solar reef]

i’m usually using 2-3 purple shards for CD and would rather just have a higher cc out of modding more often than not

[rancid mirage]

Also remove quick thinking if you use gauss on none infested/ tech rot maps

I js use him everywhere so I have it like that but it’s usually unnecessary

[novel bear]

With the purple shards, organ shatter is still much better than blood rush at 5x combo

Especially with voruna giving you 100 flat cc

[violet silo]

strength too low

would recommend a lot more

and why quick thinking?

[solar reef]

this isnt just for voruna

this is just my general heavy spam set up

[novel bear]

Organ shatter still better

[solar reef]

but heard

[hollow plover]

holy hell tak & lug is fun

does thermal transfer work on melee?

[dense abyss]

I looked a build for Phenmor and i see this...

Its true?

[chrome badge]

When’s the last time it was updated

The build i mean, could be a patched bug

[dense abyss]

https://overframe.gg/build/532938/phenmor/devouring-phenmor-v102-aoe-corro-blast/
2 months ago...

i really don't know, because i'm using a build like Ninjase without Elementalist

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[dense abyss]

Because i don't have Primed Shred, i'm thinking about options

maybe removing Serration + Shred

[old marsh]

serration plus vile is already pretty good. whats the issue?

[dense abyss]

i'm not using vile...

[faint ivy]

if any expercined player doesnt mind helping a returning player make a cedo and a good frame build that would be amazing

[dense abyss]

i was thinking because Serration is additive with aptitude and deadhead, so maybe is worth using other mod

[prime scarab]

What should I put on my Nokko for subsume? I don't ever really feel the need to use his 1.

[opal leaf]

Actually you need to use his 1 a little more

That's his viral priming and CC

[prime scarab]

Yeah I still don't need them. I take him to level cap defense as my #1 most used level cap frame and just don't need it.

After like 250 Str and crepuscular scaling nothing really lives long enough to matter

[opal leaf]

Then use Roar

[prime scarab]

boo I was afraid you'd say that lmao

[opal leaf]

I mean if you want more survivability then Omamori

[prime scarab]

Nah, Roar is probably the best pick I was just hoping there was some weirdo fun niche that I hadn't considered that was popular knowledge

[opal leaf]

That's how it is

[prime scarab]

I still run Airburst Follie over Roar Follie so was hoping something similar exists for Nokko but really he uuuuuh doesn't want for much, does the little guy?

No need for grouping because the ball will find you

[opal leaf]

Yeah

If you want something that is fun

Do Terrify hahaha

Let them run as the Ball of Doom chases them

[prime scarab]

That could be fun with the range he's got on him

[opal leaf]

It armor strips them too

[prime scarab]

Yeah, true, that could be fun, I'll look into that one. 40m terrify sounds hilarious

[opal leaf]

I might be going funy and do shield gate on Nokko hahahah with Omamori on his 3rd

[prime scarab]

I have 2 pact mods on him but only because my laetum runs one as a generalist and I have augur reach on him.

er. augur mods*

Omamori might let you take a better pet too

[opal leaf]

I was thinking lazy gate hahaha

[prime scarab]

Ah yeah, true, just don't even pay attention to it. Yeah that does sounds good for him. I just press his 3 whenever I need to gate tho

[rancid coral]

what stats should I mod for on gauss prime?

[prime scarab]

platform or sunder nuke?

[rancid coral]

mb nuke

[opal leaf]

Depends, you wanna go Weapon Platform or Nuking?

Oh nuking

[prime scarab]

Range, Range, Range, and then enough duration and efficiency to be happy

[opal leaf]

Overextended, Augur Reach and Stretch would be enough

[rancid coral]

how about strength? when I made it for range and duration it felt like I did 0 dmg

[prime scarab]

You can tank strength tbh

You just need to stay redlined

Sunder strips with one and blasts with the other so you need to be sure you're doing both

[opal leaf]

You maybe did it wrong

In Sunder nuke you need to do

100% redline

2 hot and 1 cold

[pearl tusk]

This good ?

[rancid coral]

yeah i might have miss used the 3

[prime scarab]

Gammacor is fine. Synoid Gammacor is better.

[opal leaf]

Umm not that much by it sense

[prime scarab]

The incarnon is pretty good

Not great but

Its good

[violet silo]

with incarnon decent

[opal leaf]

Yeah

100% redline, 2 hot 1 cold

In this video it's mostly the same

Importance is you need 100% redline

[prime scarab]

Yeah if you drop redline your only priority should be getting it back

[rancid mirage]

read.

[pearl tusk]

Im mr5

[prime scarab]

hi mr5

[rancid coral]

will it work well in steelpath?

[prime scarab]

It'll work to level cap

[rancid mirage]

Cant rlly find a space maybe when I get psf I can fit in blind rage

[rancid coral]

awesome Sause

[opal leaf]

I am at steel path

Lvl 180 to 200

[prime scarab]

Anyway have fun with the fraud speed frame

[violet silo]

so it doesnt matter

[opal leaf]

F-frauddd????

[prime scarab]

Yeah. Put him against Grendel, Titania, or Volt.

[violet silo]

he kinda is a fraud...
but hes really fun and I love him

[prime scarab]

I love Gauss too

He's just not anywhere near as fast as he should be

I wanna break through walls with this man

[violet silo]

true, mach rush should scale with an actually useful stat

[opal leaf]

I know hahaha

A quicksilver but slower than his fat best friend hahaha

[pearl tusk]

Whata the best weapon to have on mr5-6

[prime scarab]

Right lmao

I picked Gauss up after Titania thinking he'd be a good one to speed open world stuff with and then I tried Grendel and it was all over. Never went back.

[violet silo]

ur using it for toxin, I assume? why not rolling guard in that case?

[prime scarab]

Whatever you have that isn't level 30

At low MR your only real goal should be getting more mastery

[rancid mirage]

Bc rolling guard doesn’t stop random one tap from toxin dmg

[rancid coral]

what weapon should I use at mr13?

[violet silo]

add some duration shards and put rage over constitution

or just put it over constitution

[violet silo]

I mean, it does if you roll before the proc

[rancid mirage]

I already have 2 tau duration shards

[prime scarab]

Gauss shreds with an Acceltra at mid MR

[rancid mirage]

Proc and dmg is different

[opal leaf]

That's a bad and good recommendation

Warn him always about the ammo and mediocre damage

[rancid mirage]

If proc was a issue I can js run wyrm and be fine

[prime scarab]

Shant

[rancid coral]

yeah I have Acceltra and all parts for prime but waiting for mr14. plus I dont know how to mod so my Acceltra is weak

[violet silo]

ik, I have 5
but just slot it over constitution then

if you dont want more duration'

[rancid mirage]

Thats the thing, I want more duration

[violet silo]

sure
no proc = no dmg

[violet silo]

then add dur shards

what do you even have for shards

[rancid mirage]

You would know if you didn’t skimmed through and keep asking redundant questions

[prime scarab]

Anyway I'm off to come up with a third nokko fashion, have fun everyone

[rancid mirage]

I like how I wrote everything out but bro js keep pinging me bc he js didn’t read

[violet silo]

I could scroll up to check, or I could ask and have you waste time insulting me rather than answering

effective response, really

[prime scarab]

I feel like you're wasting his time either way at this point

[old marsh]

bold of u to assume Warframe players know how to read. that includes all of us

[rancid mirage]

Yup waste my time instead

[spice willow]

How good is zephyr airburst with airburst rounds compared to xatas whisper subsumed on yareli 3 for kompressa

[violet silo]

you wasted your own time because you had to insult me

[prime scarab]

You should've left the typo in to prove your point

[rancid mirage]

I say sorry if I made a mistake or admit it at the least

[old marsh]

uhhh. i will go with Yareli with Xata for Kompressa.

[violet silo]

could've just answered. anyways, why would you run cast speed shards when he buffs cast speed and you arent playing him as a caster?

[pine hinge]

can anyone help me with deep archimedea

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smirk-dog-smirking-evil-gif-1174039551531775064

[spice willow]

Why? Airburst with airburst rounds buff secondary though

[prime scarab]

Xata's isn't just a damage buff technically

Its a second instance of damage

[latent adder]

Yareli is simply too strong

[prime scarab]

Thats why its better in most cases

[old marsh]

because my experience with Zephyr is limited. thats why i said "i will" instead of "you should"

[rancid mirage]

Its bc his 4 takes time to cast and its annoying to wait for that imo and bc of diminishing, trading little bit of duration for casting convenience was worth it after playing for few months

[latent adder]

The xata doesnt do that much even

For yareli

[opal leaf]

Huh?

[latent adder]

But on kompressa it helps with blast status

[prime scarab]

??? I have done something wrong then because my Yareli is garbage cans.

[latent adder]

Did u run loyal merulina

[prime scarab]

Yknow what, no, I haven't gone back and tried that aug yet

[old marsh]

show build and tell us your casting loop

[solar reef]

Xatas BlastFluence Sledge 🤑

[latent adder]

Cuz the board is garbage

[prime scarab]

No, you'll bully me

[latent adder]

Loyal merulina casts its own Snares that multiply with your own snares

Its like two eclipses

[old marsh]

i wish. i am the one who gets bullied here. figured i will find a friend in u. guess i was wrong

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[prime scarab]

Yeah I guess so. :[

In seriousness though I just never played her with augs so that is probably a big part of it

I'll have to do that. I liked the board though that was fun

[violet silo]

then why not run rage over constitution anyways, if you're already willing to compromise on duration for a little qol
it probably won't hurt the build much, you would still have like 340-smth duration with concentration

[prime scarab]

But if losing the board is what makes her good, then lose it I must

[latent adder]

Blast xata kompressa on yareli is nice for trash clearing, just gotta run corro heat mag xata for lvlcap thrax

[prime scarab]

Ugh I need to finish building a second xaku

[spice willow]

wait so is airburst w/ airburst rounds better than xatas

[prime scarab]

bro...

[novel bear]

Usually not

[latent adder]

On yareli?

[spice willow]

Yes

[latent adder]

Nah xatas is better

[novel bear]

Airburst rounds is additive damage

[latent adder]

Esp if running blast

Airburst is pretty huge dmg

[novel bear]

Xata’s is multiplicative damage with some odd interactions

[rancid mirage]

sacrificing efficiency makes him feel slightly annoying to play imo, you could run neg efficiency but I would have to kill things to set up blast transfer with his 4 on start of every missions

[latent adder]

Xata just better in this case

[spice willow]

If it does huge dmg then why not airburst

[violet silo]

don't you have equilibrium and a shard?

you get like two orbs, ur set

[gray quarry]

Were yoy using merulina guardian?

[latent adder]

Cuz in the case where u run blast kompressa or thrax killer kompressa, xata is better

[old marsh]

but be mindful that u will need survivability despite board giving u 4seconds of invulnerability. so IF u have issues, use rolling guard or circumvent

[rancid mirage]

100 efficiency was js kept so I can js jump in and trans fortitude for trading duration for lil str is kinda weird when I am stacking those two stats and also use mod slot to trade em?

[gray quarry]

Aegis tho

[old marsh]

whichever works for u

[prime scarab]

Not entirely sure at this point. I deleted her loadout when I didn't see much success. Still have the prime, just not set up. I'll have to get the augs later and give her another try.

[spice willow]

Doesn't merulina give 90% dr

[gray quarry]

Merulina guardian gives some funny firerate

[novel bear]

Dr has trouble at higher levels

[violet silo]

I wasnt recommending trans fort
I was recommending blind rage, ig umbral intenify could work but idk if you have space

[old marsh]

using loyal merulina. so we r OFF the board. hence the recommendation

[latent adder]

With loyal merulina u basically cancel forcefully

[rancid mirage]

With neg efficiency I was annoyed with it. I did have blind rage on as you can see from unmatched polarity on fas deflection, this is what I settled after switching through slightly different configs for months

[latent adder]

So u abuse iframes

[gray quarry]

Iirc it gives it anyway

[old marsh]

4 seconds of invul. u can just spam it to never die

[novel bear]

Are you doing endurance?
Because 90% dr is nothing at level cap

It’s fine for base steel path

[violet silo]

btw what's the % on your xata buff, usually?

[old marsh]

show me proof. ngl now u r making me doubt it

[viscid bane]

What's the best way to off load armor strip to companions? Besides just modding for Corro

[gray quarry]

Ninjase might be able to confirm, I heard it from someone whi has disappeared now

[novel bear]

Says it on wiki

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[old marsh]

honestly thought we lose the DR when we r not on the board. so thats good shit

[gray quarry]

Only thing you lose is knockdown resistence

[old marsh]

so why my yareli kept dying in EDA/ETA without RG

[rancid mirage]

Idk but it kills also idrk if xata is like str required subsume? I just thought ppl use xata for blast interaction but high str wouldn’t hurt but I didn’t like when I traded 28% durations for blind rage

[gray quarry]

Cause you just suck

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scroll-crying-depression-doomscrolling-gif-4138822033792608878

[gray quarry]

[rancid mirage]

Also I only have 1 purple tau for orbs, I got no equilibrium mod on it

See what I mean by not reading

[gray quarry]

What be happening

[rancid mirage]

I js figured I can get away with one purple if I js do normal efficiency

and dash spam is easier w normal efficiency but negative efficiency requires little bit more braincell but I prefer low cortisol gauss over max duration grimor invigoration snapshotting guass

[gray quarry]

If you run urple shards you run atleast 2

Unless your shards are taken up already

[rancid mirage]

I got away w 1 and it feels fine to use when u got normal efficiency

Ig I can take off one duration and see if blind rage can take over when I get psf in like 70 days

[rancid mirage]

I could try that when I get psf actually

[gray quarry]

Do you have his 2 still

[gray quarry]

Ah, yeah get psf

[rancid mirage]

i thought bout subsuming xata to 1 but thats js doesnt sit right in my soul

[fast elbow]

Royal merulina doesn't change anything

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-whispers-in-the-wall-tenno-entrati-1999-gif-16943765476869672917

everyone already educated me

[fast elbow]

More education 👁️

[gray quarry]

Take a book!

[opal leaf]

Damn I didn't know Kalymos is THAT big

[old marsh]

once u switch your operations to back room, u can see her anytime

i prefer backroom over the ship

[opal leaf]

I know about that, but I didn't know he is THAT BIG

Is there a way to get Kalymos as a pet? Even if it's a skin?

[old marsh]

ye. there is a skin

[opal leaf]

Kavat skin?

I might get a Kavat next

[old marsh]

ye

[dense abyss]

now that Beast have "Resource Retriever", in which case is worth to use sentinel?

[solar reef]

kavats get quite large

[gray quarry]

Chonky

[opal leaf]

Ohhh

I need 10 kavat genes right?

[old marsh]

and 10 for segment

[solar reef]

moderately large

[opal leaf]

Just 10 genes for 1 kavat right?

[gray quarry]

Nah 50

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-peggle-puzz-mid-video-high-gif-553759000954454273

failed gif load

[opal leaf]

Nooo I want me some Lil meow meow!

[solar reef]

my stupid chud life

[solar reef]

its only 10 per kavat

[gray quarry]

[opal leaf]

And that's it?

[solar reef]

save for vulpa breeding

[opal leaf]

Hmm well I kinda want a Kavat for now

Any kavat would work

I'm sure tenacious bond or reinforced bond would work on them right?

[gray quarry]

With the companion rework, vasca might be one of the best ones

[rancid coral]

what can i do to gauss prime to make him gain more energy I keep running out of it even with his 2

[opal leaf]

Did you use Blind Rage?

[rancid coral]

no should I?

[opal leaf]

No

[rancid coral]

what should my efficiency be at?

[opal leaf]

Do you have Equilibrium and Flow?

And Synth Deconstruction in your companion?

[rancid coral]

yes

[opal leaf]

Do you have your battery at full? (not redline)

[rancid coral]

yes

nvm i was using the wrong pet

[old marsh]

battery means u have 1200 energy

[deep grotto]

God i haven't the slightest clue how to build this damned thing

[spice willow]

How is blast good with xatas? Like what's the synergy exactly

[deep grotto]

p sure it double dips

[old marsh]

boom squared boom

[gray quarry]

Being hit with attacks stronger than a wet fart

[spice willow]

Could you like quote the wiki or something

[gray quarry]

“Boom squared boom” -somewhere on the wiki

[opal leaf]

Boom^2

[old marsh]

whenever in doubt. check wiki

[solar reef]

Headshot + Blast + Faction + Xatas = big funny

[spice willow]

So xatas makes blast stacks explode and other stuff

[solar reef]

No its saying that xatas whisper is activated off of explosions

[old marsh]

havent used it in ages so not sure if this is meta

[spice willow]

Oh read it wrong

[solar reef]

Like the hits from blast will apply again

also elementalist mods will affect that xatas tick

and faction bonuses

xatas whisper is basically a worse Toxic Lash thats also subsumable

[spice willow]

Sorry to seem dumb but does this mean 1 blast proc and 1 void proc can give 2 blast procs

[solar reef]

do you understand how xatas works

[spice willow]

nope

All I know is bullet attractor bubble

[solar reef]

It gives you a second damage instance dealing a %(scaling with strength) as void damage

[violet silo]

xata’s generally better w high str

[solar reef]

Blast procs, uniquely, will also get a second damage instance from xatas

[deep grotto]

well it's probably standard
why g.aptitude though

[solar reef]

unlike the blast damage though, the void damage will benefit from elementalist mods

[deep grotto]

im pretty sure the sybau doesnt have gunco

[spice willow]

So a xata proc can also proc blast?

[solar reef]

no

a blast proc can apply xatas

blast functionally hits twice and with all the bells and whistles of double dipping

[violet silo]

hey i’m not gonna scroll between a convo and your message every time, if im wrong just correct me

[solar reef]

Since faction modifiers will apply to that xatas damage again

as well as elementalist

[spice willow]

So basically xata + blast = more numbers on screen

[solar reef]

yeah

[rancid mirage]

The first ping that you did was like 2 comments below my explanations, which lowk cringed me out and you have succeeded on rage baiting me

[solar reef]

except that second number can end up higher than the first number if using Elementalist and Faction mods

[opal leaf]

I read sybau soooo wrong hahahha

[solar reef]

also the bonus from things like headshots and finishers is applied again to the xatas instance

[old marsh]

i cant remember. i havent touched it for years

anyone got a Volnus build?

[solar reef]

xatas whisper would be so gas on Ash if he didnt have such abysmal base cc/sc
basically cant run blast on shadows

[violet silo]

i’m assuming you’re thinking of the quick thinking ping, and I was asking why quick thinking specifically, compared to rolling guard

[solar reef]

Proton Snap is the only justifiable reason to build gas on him and I hate that

[old marsh]

assuming i should build it for slam. but the thing has insanely high base SC. so not sure

[solar reef]

please 10-15% base sc I beg

I pray DE

[rancid mirage]

Don’t you understand it, when I was first summoned I see questions with my explanation on same frame and you are like well I dont rlly feel like reading, why not js answer me? Ok then why do i bother even talking to you if you aint gonna care to read context thats like in same frame

Bro why am i even talking to you bro

[violet silo]

the shard question was so I didn’t have to scroll to a post you made an hour ago dude

[rancid mirage]

yuh and I said toxin and rolling guard also doesn’t work when its on cd theres no guranteed that only one toxin eximus shows up at a time so I rather have automatic one that requires orbs ranther one manual with down time

[rancid mirage]

alr I will js not talk to you bc I apparently have to js keep remind you of info bc you rather do that then be aware of context

[novel bear]

Hammer stances too slow for light attack
Slamflictions

[old marsh]

so what do u recommend?

[solar reef]

had a guy here genuinely trying to build sibear for lightspam the other week

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

put the galv reflex in the bag

[rancid mirage]

bro I am js not even gonna respond to your time wasting ping no more, literally js been rage baited every 20ish mins for nothing

[old marsh]

luckily got a riven. never built the damn thing. so need suggestions

[rancid mirage]

I am done w u dawg so go do whatever the hell you want

[novel bear]

Seismic wave
Galv elementalist
Organ shatter

And a steel mod

[old marsh]

how about elements?

[novel bear]

Gas is good

[violet silo]

damn
some people just don’t want to listen

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/gracias-thanks-thank-you-cry-sad-gif-16869590

[solar reef]

gas afflictions 🤑

[violet silo]

mire?

[solar reef]

i believe theyre building volnus but yeah thats the idea

god i love coda mire

[old marsh]

HE is building Volnus P coz riven lol

[violet silo]

come to think of it
how is ruvox as a weapon

[old marsh]

i like it

not meta but usable

[solar reef]

i get to use the cool sword skin to cope with it not being as good as magistar

[deep grotto]

punchy incarnon

[violet silo]

it’s another gas afflictions weapon right?

[old marsh]

i think i have 1 build like that. not sure thats the one i use

[novel bear]

Vulnerability serum does some funny things

It gives flat status chance to everything, so status effects can proc more status effects

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/will-you-please-elaborate-what-is-machine-scene-3idiots-gif-21332846

[opal leaf]

Wait wait remind me again

To craft a Kavat, all I need is the segment, AND 10 kavat genes?

[novel bear]

Yes

[opal leaf]

No power cell like Kubrow?

[old marsh]

and segment requires 10 codes to craft as well

[old marsh]

nope

[opal leaf]

I have the segment

[novel bear]

You need a power cell

[old marsh]

cool then

[opal leaf]

I see, just 10 kavat genes

[old marsh]

aah. those things. ye. u need power cell

[opal leaf]

Bruhhhh

[old marsh]

honestly thought u were asking for the egg

its 6 am. dont kill me

[opal leaf]

Well Kavat.... Ya know

[old marsh]

time for coffee then

[opal leaf]

Again, Kavat DOESN'T NEED Power Cells... I'm quite confused now

[deep grotto]

you need the power core yes

[opal leaf]

Ah damn..... So 10 kavat genes and a power core

[old marsh]

i am still drinking my coffee

[opal leaf]

Whyyyy whyyy do I need this power coreeeeeee

😭

[deep grotto]

to power the incubator lmao

whenever i get argon i build one

[opal leaf]

True, I may have to stack Power cores so I don't have any problems

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-wait-nathan-fillion-uhmm-hmmm-gif-15415633

[knotty coral]

what archon shards should i use on rhino?

[opal leaf]

Well someone said the Iron Skin focused on armor... I'm not sure... So Blue shard armor... Let me check

Ya it scales in armor

[knotty coral]

should i put 5 blues then?
or another ones to try to upgrade my dmg

[opal leaf]

I mean 2 or 1 yellow shard for casting speed and 3 or 4 blue armor if you really want

Someine can give you better suggestions but this is what I would do to Rhino

[knotty coral]

is iron skin cast that slow to need the casting speed?

[opal leaf]

Wdym

[prime scarab]

What are the frames with the laziest survivability? Revenant, Inaros, Chroma?

[knotty coral]

the
Why putting casting speed

[opal leaf]

Gauss with the immortal build

[opal leaf]

To make casting faster

[knotty coral]

ig ill try the combination u told me
ty ^^

[opal leaf]

Or only in this option

[velvet pulsar]

Nyx

With either dispensary or universal fallout (Brightbonnet will also work)

[solar reef]

oberons up there too

[latent adder]

Also oraxia

[velvet pulsar]

Preferably with silence subsume

(in case of persistence)

And this is just assuming scenarios where there is scarce/no enemy supply in a boss fight

[violet silo]

gauss

aegis

[velvet pulsar]

Sure except the toxin but even that's scarce and countered.

[violet silo]

valkyr, if holding e is lazy enough

[opal leaf]

Immortal gus

[opal leaf]

Holding.... Wdym

If she attacks she is invincible?

[violet silo]

pretty much lol

[velvet pulsar]

Persistence valkyr has atleast 2 death gates via just holding E

One by constant healing from her 4 as lifesteal, other via her passive but the passive stacks better with kills rather than pure melee damage.

[silk sphinx]

To be fair she has to be hitting something.

For her passive

[violet silo]

that’s why I asked if it was lazy enough

[velvet pulsar]

Passive doesn't scale well with just hitting enemies

It's very low stacking

[silk sphinx]

I know, but you have to hit something to kill it so it falls under the umbrella of killing enemies

[opal leaf]

Wait what's a Death gate

If taken in literal term it's like shield gate? Like if you are about to die you are going to be immortal for a few seconds?

[latent adder]

It just prevents death and makes u immortal for 5s

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah basically health one-shot prevention

[latent adder]

Nidus has it too

[old marsh]

Omamori

[opal leaf]

The mutations am I right?

[latent adder]

Yeah his passive

[opal leaf]

Ohhh I see

OK so Valkyr and Nidus have Deathgate

[latent adder]

Nidus can also persistence and death gate

Not quite lazy tho u gotta do stuff

[opal leaf]

Would the Inaros Passive, Nokko passive or Seva Passive a pseudo death gate? Or it's one of few examples of Death gate too

[latent adder]

Nokko is guess sorta? Seva hell nah lol

[velvet pulsar]

There's also Well of Life making any warframe immortal with persistence (except Lavos, and obviously Hildryn).

Has inconveniences though.
https://youtu.be/WLrmVNZAiR4?si=I2HHn03ICN8n6RD-

[old marsh]

Worse Unairu waybound

[opal leaf]

I see

[old marsh]

Altho Nokko is much easier

Still Omamori tops all

[opal leaf]

I heard Valkyr can Persistence and Death gate too (given the revelation that she can death gate earlier)

[opal leaf]

Fax

[latent adder]

Yes

Shes way better at it than nidus

[opal leaf]

Make sense

But now the Nidus update is coming, I'm excited to see how did my INFESTED KING will perform

[latent adder]

Im just finishing a valkyr video lol

Shes so comfy

[opal leaf]

Do u have a a Nidus or a Zephyr?

[latent adder]

I did nidus a while ago

Zephyr havent done one in years

[opal leaf]

Cause just imo

Just me

Nidus and Zephyr are being... Ignored by a bunch

[latent adder]

Zephyr is pretty popular i think

Nidus is deservedly ignored

[opal leaf]

I haven't seen a lot nor talked about Zephyr

[latent adder]

He simplu sucks lol, Idk if this retouch is gonna do much

Zephyr is crazy good

[old marsh]

Give Zephyr Proto skin and watch what happens https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786650853431181342/1501133402093387897/SPOILER_image.png?ex=6a04da2c&is=6a0388ac&hm=cc8a74f31a320e6228e4dfb65ec050c318185dc1167538fa34f4b11cd03b0041&

[opal leaf]

Well we'll see

If it works, if the retouch works

Guess he will go up the roster

[latent adder]

I have big doubts

The core gameplay isn't changing

[opal leaf]

Mind giving the insights out of it?

[latent adder]

Which involves building stacks

Which is impossible to do outside of solo survival

[old marsh]

Nidus is an endurance frame. Stacks upon stacks

[latent adder]

Once I was playing solo cascade with nidus and accidentally popped an on call

[opal leaf]

Wdym haha

[latent adder]

It stole all my kills in larva and I couldn't build stacks

[opal leaf]

Ohhhb

Yeah so Nidus is by far... Officially, a Solo frame

I'm calling Nidus a solo frame from now on

[karmic badger]

Crewmate, why are you laughing, my Nidus is kinda stackless

[latent adder]

U can play without stacks but he just becomes worse inaros lol

Except u can buff teammates

Which is nice

[opal leaf]

But in general terms

He is a Solo frame

[latent adder]

Yeah

[opal leaf]

Yup, officially a solo frame

[latent adder]

U also cant build stacks in like an exterminate

[old marsh]

Not like that. He is a great support frame but when u play with players with higher DPS, it becomes annoying. So Nidus prefers to play with players with a low DPS and that’s where he shines as a support.

[latent adder]

Theres not enough time or enemies

[opal leaf]

I can see that,

[velvet pulsar]

The slam fans use zephyr

[old marsh]

Plus movement is another thing with certain defense/survival oriented frames. They prefer to stay at one location

[opal leaf]

I don't like slamming tho hahaha

[latent adder]

Zephyr kinda makes every weapon good

Not just slam

[opal leaf]

Can I say this

"kinda like Saryn?"

[solar reef]

definitely not like saryn

[old marsh]

Different things

[opal leaf]

Oh ya I'm trying to Main her

[velvet pulsar]

I've mostly seen the popularity among slam users for a while.
Specially the current event because zephyr can fly up the elevator, can destroy the adversary spawn quickly.

[latent adder]

Not as strong as saryn and its also not quite a buff

Yeah ive gone back to zephyr slam archon

They reverted attenuation change on archon or something

Can oneshot again

[velvet pulsar]

Although I like how Zephyr can simply use Arcane Hot Shot with her already high CC passive

[opal leaf]

But she makes weapons good

I've used acceltra on her hahahha I knoe it's a bad gun but I like it

[velvet pulsar]

Allows the crit inherit mechanic to make certain stuff ultra crit

[solar reef]

Zephyr has abilities that work together with weapons;
Saryn has abilities that make weapons funny hehe haha good

[opal leaf]

Ohhhh OK make sense

[solar reef]

god toxic lash is so GOATed

[opal leaf]

That's the one that gives Toxin on weapons right?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/we-know-duh-hello-of-course-gif-13989211

[solar reef]

Its a second instance of damage dealing % of damage dealt in toxin

It just double dips in a lot of stuff

[velvet pulsar]

If u r patient enough, u can also try the angry bird zephyr build

[solar reef]

those who dive

[velvet pulsar]

The 1st ability augment

[old marsh]

Just keep jumping & spamming 1. Hate that gameplay

[velvet pulsar]

The damage stacks infinitely like gara loop gameplay

But I don't like loop gameplay to stack dmg

[opal leaf]

Hmm I'm liking Zephyr cause of her balanced gameplay tbh

[velvet pulsar]

More people should use the Turbulence augment.