builds-discussion

[opal leaf]

It will be BROKEn

[silk sphinx]

The least DE could do is treat it to a good riven disposition, but no. That’s trash too.

[opal leaf]

Yeah

That's why Acceltra is quite Mid, tho I use it still

[silk sphinx]

I have it, and it performed decently as a stat stick for toxin with my Oraxia in SP circuit. But that was with a bunch of decrees backing it up.

[opal leaf]

Tbh the reason why it's Mid or weak bc it's heavily reliant on Frames that buffs the gun

Zephyr
Xaku
Harrow

Etc etc

[silk sphinx]

It’s not a bad weapon for people pre-steel path. But once you hit steel path it becomes kind of worthless.

[opal leaf]

The farthest I've bring Acceltra is enemies from level 700 to 800

And that's with Xaku (no 2nd skill)

[silk sphinx]

Yeah, I wish it did better than it is.

[opal leaf]

It slowly stops killing on those high of the level

In level cap standards... That's soooo low where enemies are still squishy

[granite steppe]

Can you show your xaku build ?

[elfin sluice]

on entry-level steel path it's alright. feels like riding a necramech during profit-taker instead of using the archgun deployer, but it works

wish it had less of a falloff, though

[sudden plank]

@latent adder i was shown this for a hildryn nuke i wanted your opinion

[latent adder]

swap boreals for more strength id say

and you could run expertise if u wanted mor dmg

otherwise aegis is def more comfy

[sudden plank]

other than that this should hold up in high level SP right?

[latent adder]

yeah

well how high?

[sudden plank]

im looking for something to 1k+ nuke

[latent adder]

it should nuke trash fine, but for lvlcap thrax u need more strength and xata's whisper

[sudden plank]

umbra mod?

[latent adder]

nah stay with precision is fine

put transient fortitude

you will be popping in and out of Aegis Gale alot by lvl 1k so you really need vazarin protective sling and raksa kubrow

[sudden plank]

yea the dude linked the kubrow i wasnt sure how it went hand and hand though, im a old days player and havent really been updated

he also said he runs red strength shards 4 of them

to make up instead of adding more strength

[latent adder]

raksa just restores shields alot and can run reinforced bond

yeah red shards are good

[dense belfry]

for the burston incarnon (yes its on the prime.)
should i go for blast, viral or corrosive? (or go full into heat)

[latent adder]

viral for general use, magnetic for thrax and radiation for other bosses that are weak to rad

[dense belfry]

gotcha

[wary forge]

influence 🙂

[fallen otter]

What is a good amp nowdays? general use

[elfin sluice]

547 is probably the best for non-specified gameplay.

[fallen otter]

is that the flamethrower?

[elfin sluice]

5xx as a more-aim-forgiving version of 1xx, x4x because the glaives just do a lot in general and xx7 because high crit chance is good~~(although the crit-status one is also one to consider)~~

[elfin sluice]

7xx is the close-range rapid-fire one.

5xx is the single-target burst fire primary fire.

[fallen otter]

okay

[elfin sluice]

if your aim is good, go for 147 instead

that one does a bit more reliable headshot damage, but IMO is not as good for bodyshots

[fierce lark]

the crit status one is really bad (imo) unless you run one of the arcanes that swaps your amp to non-void damage

[elfin sluice]

the void status effect is nice to have for x5x IMO, but yeah.

[fierce lark]

void statuses are actively harmful for x4x, they'll rotate around the same target instead of bouncing around

[elfin sluice]

i mainly use a 557 and the void effect proccing helps that out so i thought it might be nice for the glaives as well for some reason

for actually downing a single given target for last gasp i guess

[dense peak]

does ts mean they like me

[fierce lark]

i can maybe see why it would help with the 5 scaffold but void status effects will make phahd glaives rotate around the same target instead of bouncing around (until it dies)

[elfin sluice]

it doesn't re-hit the target while staying near it?

[fierce lark]

it probably does? but that's not generally why you're shooting a homing glaive

you want it to go around and bonk everything

[elfin sluice]

very fair point

[opal leaf]

Viral Magnet is what I used since has heat on his Incarnon

[fierce lark]

this is why i added the imo

i have never used x43 together but i have to imagine it wouldn't interact well together

[dense peak]

guys is there anything more boring than torid incarnon + rev

[elfin sluice]

made me requestion my memories for a second there - i definitely remember it nearly instakilling steel path circuit fodder due to the void effect making it loop back on them but my memories are horrifically unreliable

[fallen otter]

am i the only one that gets headaches after playing this game for an hour?

[elfin sluice]

clone-focused wukong index

give wukong's clone a kuva nukor, slap some brightbonnets down in a corner and only move to pick up and dump points

i know you were joking but yeah, there really is something more boring

[dense peak]

the most boring is actually replaying warframe

like replaying the new war 💔

[elfin sluice]

eh

[dense peak]

replaying a linear game level is hella boring idk

[elfin sluice]

no different than rewatching a movie to me
you get sick of it after doing that enough times, but the second time around's alright

also on the note of x5x: if ya choose to go that route, invest in ammo efficiency. the burst fire runs out if you don't have a high amount of it. tauron strike ammo efficiency mod borderline required.

[dense peak]

once the story is finished the game is finished and onto the next

[elfin sluice]

for the new war in particular it really does feel like a movie at times though

[quaint breach]

Anyone have a Khora prime build for looting? I need the cat as well if you can, lowkey I was just planning to get 280 range and call it a day

[viscid hazel]

Hi, me again lol. Discipline's Merit or Dreamer's Wrath?

[elfin sluice]

truth's flame

[viscid hazel]

I— oh ok

[elfin sluice]

discipline merit for consistent proccing, truth's flame for spamming it once you get it

[red prism]

Good evening I would need a double zorens prime build

[viscid hazel]

Ty. I was also looking at Dreamer's Wrath.

Thing is, I'm not really going to be spamming melee all that much I don't think. I'll definitely be using my Burston over melee, so for me Discipline's Merit or Dreamer's Wrath seem more appropriate, but as usual, I'm probably wrong, lol.

[elfin sluice]

no tennokai mods will proc without using light attacks to some capacity, so discipline's merit is likely your best bet as it'll actually be somewhat consistent for when it does come up.

you can forcibly pull it up in under two seconds.

--
What is the best helminth subsume for lavos, golden instinct aside?

[north wedge]

My damage dropped 300 for no reason and it actually affected my gameplay. This picture is before it dropped, I'll have to get one of after, but I can't figure out what did this besides an extra forma

[solar reef]

the best lavos subsume is no subsume, or so i’m told

lots of stock lavos supremecists

[elfin sluice]

it's not hard to see why, honestly

i'm just curious

[north wedge]

On your thing or mine?-

[elfin sluice]

on lavos not having helminths

[north wedge]

Oh

Im misclickijg everything good god

[silk sphinx]

His kit is a lot like Uriel’s. It’s so interwoven with itself that it hurts the build if an ability is replaced with a subsume.

[latent adder]

sickening pulse and roar for dmg
omamori or evade for surviving

[old marsh]

anyone got a Zenith build?

guessing the same old viral heat, gal apt build?

[latent adder]

for general use yeah

[silk sphinx]

But at the same time I’m not a huge fan of helminthing off abilities unless I dislike them.

[north wedge]

I think its because it revolves around elements instead of just the abilities itself

[north wedge]

I just farm the frames over again or wait for the primes to release

[viscid hazel]

Thank you. I can understand that Discipline's Merit means good consistency, but I can't understand why it would be chosen over the other two since the other two give extra damage or crit damage.

[silk sphinx]

I’m fine with feeding a Warframe to the wall mouth, replacing abilities is where I want to be sure of things before I replace it. For example, I would put Xata’s Whisper on my Hildryn (if I had it) but I’m still trying to fix my shield economy issues I’m having so currently the subsume is Rebuild Shields over her 3.

But on frames like Lavos or Uriel I’m just not a fan because I like their kit.

[north wedge]

Oh, that's what you mean.

[north wedge]

I mean the healing one is fine to replace, but it feels wrong. The demons revive by default anyway, but it feels really wrong

[elfin sluice]

okay yup lavos definitely does not need a helminth
tried out the cedo prime specifically on him, primary debilitate with valence formation on that thing kills FAST

[silk sphinx]

I like the healing one because I can get my shield up to 1833 and heal all my health in a split second if needed. The one ability I maybe would consider replacing would be Infernalis.

[old marsh]

flux vs tenet flux

[old marsh]

try C Bubonico with P Deb

with lavos

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[elfin sluice]

was just thinking that, but i can't stand its horrendously slow-feeling reload speed. riven has crit chance, multishot & heat

the element for valence is gas, yeah?

[wary forge]

U really want mag cap or reload

U got elementalist so ye

[elfin sluice]

a previous riven roll i had was + multi +reloadrate +heat -statdur (typo)
rerolled because statdur seemed like an awful negative

do i try to reroll for a reload speed positive

[quartz atlas]

How can I build broken war? Mr8, willing to farm the necessary mods:)

[tough beacon]

get fury in there for more attack speed

[elfin sluice]

a start would be to put vicious frost where molten impact is - toxin and cold combine into viral, a damage multiplier.
after that, fill in the slot where vicious frost was with any attack speed mod - berserker fury or quickening most optimally, but any would help. even magnetic rush, a common drop in hollivania, is better than nothing.

aside from them, if you're willing to farm, seek out Blood Rush - a mod that increases critical chance based on your combo counter - & drifting contact, a mod that retains your combo buildup for longer.

[opal leaf]

If Lavos put Gas on Cedo

Would the Alt have Gas too?

[elfin sluice]

and since you should probably already have it - insert true steel over that unranked reach mod.

[opal leaf]

It might be a stupid question

[elfin sluice]

should, yeah

regular elemental modding applies to it and valence formation works the same as other elemental mod augments for the damage portion(unsure about the forced proc part)

[quartz atlas]

Thanks! Ill try farming those mods

Which mod should I replace after getting those?

[elfin sluice]

would suggest maxing out your common/brown mods as well - they're ultra cheap.

[elfin sluice]

molten impact is first on the cutting block, as having four elemental mods on a weapon usually isn't the best play(especially when it interferes with elemental mixing like in this case)

organ shatter is fine, but once again, really wanna max it out

having reach is very good later on once you've got a bunch of mods under your belt, but at your current stage of the game you really just want to have the ability to down the first target in front of you(reach is more for AoE purposes), so that's also replaceable

[wary forge]

Nah honestly that riven is probably not even better then primed ravage the more I think about it

[opal leaf]

Ohhh, so.. It gives Elemental plus having it 200% elemental Damage on it?

[wary forge]

Well if it has heat it’s prob better then the 60/60 heat

So lowkey u drop that and go ravage I think

[quartz atlas]

What should I replace with blood rush and Drifting contact?

[elfin sluice]

from what i can tell, it works like shock trooper in regards to elemental damage application, but also has forced procs of the valenced element on every single hit(with multishot applying one proc per value).

[elfin sluice]

molten impact, reach

[opal leaf]

I see

Bc I can see how Gas would shred enemies fr

Especially for the Alt

[elfin sluice]

melee prowess can also be ditched in favor of [Weeping Wounds], a mod that works the same way as blood rush but for status chance

but until you get the arcane slot(which is unlocked by questing further), would suggest an attack speed mod there instead

more hits more better

[tough beacon]

idk where to farm it but Condition Overload would be neat to farm for as well

[elfin sluice]

same place as blood rush iirc

[reef quiver]

Does anyone know if loyal companion and martyr symbiosis work together?

[elfin sluice]

so yeah, probably something like this. magnetic rush could be any attack speed mod.

fever strike can be replaced by any heat/electric/toxin mod - would not suggest raw cold since the others do status damage.
electric has a stun attached, heat makes enemies softer, toxin bypasses corpus shielding, and all three do damage over time.

[quartz atlas]

Oh i didnt know that, thought they just damage

Thats cool to know

[elfin sluice]

the status effects have those bonus properties

the damage itself does not(for electric & heat anyway - toxin damage still penetrates shield)

[dense abyss]

What weapons recommendations for Ash?

[quartz atlas]

Ill try this out, thanks!!

[opal leaf]

I would like to go Melee On ash

Dual Ichor and Hate are the ones good for it

[dense abyss]

I did see some Dread + Innodem

[tough beacon]

Slash, anything slash heavy

[elfin sluice]

just checked my inventory as well and i have spare copies of some of this stuff if you want it

[dense abyss]

Every melee with arcane Melee Crescendo i think, right?

[opal leaf]

Or melee Influence actually

[dense abyss]

Its worth to not use Melee Crescendo and just use Naramon + Influence?

i have both options

[fierce lark]

are you playing melee weapons ash or are you actually trying to kill things with shadow clones

[dense abyss]

because clones are so slow, i want some weapon to kill the weak targets fast

[elfin sluice]

forgets he left the budget build on
enters steel path mission

the weapon did well even under that circumstance, all things considered

[old marsh]

Builds r just a myth. True dmg comes from believing in yourself and power of friendship

[elfin sluice]

chuckles in companion contributing to crit damage

the power of friendship is real

[fierce lark]

either a dagger (because they have massive finisher multiplier) or something like a glaive/scythe/hammer that likes heavy slam/spam, with crescendo

if you're playing ash your weapon should have crescendo, you stack it for free

[dense abyss]

cool

If i use Hate for example, i need to build for slam ou just overall works?

Like this

[fierce lark]

nah, hate is a scythe, all scythe have the forced slash proc on heavy

ash passive buffs slash dmg so your heavies will just chunk, and you can finisher straight to 12x combo

you can drop berserker fury, it's not super helpful for heavy spam (only speeds up the animation recovery iirc)

[opal leaf]

Oh is that why Ash just one shots anyone in heavy hahshah

I use Hate

[fierce lark]

you'd want like...melee elementalist for windup speed, maybe killing blow, you'd want dispatch overdrive in exilus

[dense abyss]

i see

just stack combo and spam slam

thats cool

i can use Dread too with her mod augment and incarnon

[fierce lark]

you dont slam with hate

just regular heavies

[glad ice]

What should be my last mod for the kuva nukor? I dont have access to galvanized mods yet

[dense abyss]

Slam don't count with heavy?

like, Heavy Slam?

don't force proc slash too?

[fierce lark]

nope, they just do a baseline blast hit and knock enemies up

[dense abyss]

oh...

[fierce lark]

some weapons do a funky slam, but for the most part they're just base blast

with a force lifted status

[old marsh]

Slam, Heavy Slam & Heavy Attack are all different

[dense abyss]

so, the idea is just to hitkill single targets with the heavy attack, right?

[old marsh]

The only thing that is same is that heavy slam and heavy attack share the same double crit bonus on heavy attacks

[old marsh]

Ye

And I think Killing blow too act the same way

[wraith sinew]

What subsume would be good for ivara using Zenistar?

Im thinking wrathful advance

[old marsh]

Not if u r going for 13% Dur Ivara

And WA Dur is so tiny it’s laughable

By the time your disc travels half the distance WA would have ended

And that’s for 100% Dur

[dense abyss]

So... I just drop Burning Hate when using heavy attack build, right?

Will be something like this?

[wary forge]

why would u ever drop burning hate

[dense abyss]

x12 heavy spam will be for slash proc, right? Burning Hate works when the target have heat proc...

i think is better when u using light attack to have more chances for incarnon proc heat

[wary forge]

.....

[wary forge]

yes u can do a hybrid build if u want to tho

[dense abyss]

yes i know and i use

we're talking about using her with x12 combo heavy attack spam with Ash+melee crescendo

idk much about melees too, so i'm learning this things right now...

[quartz atlas]

Sorry late reply, have classes. I'll be grateful if you can 🫠

[lost flume]

Ok I got a modding question, anyone who knows can answer, why does anyone put both Transient fortitude and overextended on a warframe? won't they cancel each other out as Transient fortitude gives u 55 + ability strength yet overextended is minus 60 ability strength ?

[elfin sluice]

alrighty.
dm your IGN and i'll chuck an invite over

[opal leaf]

The question is

Who's frame is this? There are a few frames who doesn't need duration, but needed Effeciency

[wary forge]

well if ur gonna ashe melee build no reason to do cresendo just do a normal build like ig u could just gonna be worse

https://overframe.gg/build/494117/hate/hate-incarnon-hybrid-light-attack-and-x12-heavy-attack-tennokai/

i would jsuet do this

[fierce lark]

sometimes you want a lot of range, but you also want a lot of strength

in fact, most frames who want a lot of range want a lot of strength for the same reasons

[oblique junco]

as someone with a powerful nataruk build what are some good weapons to replace it? its currently my safety gun since its good dmg and not ammo needy like acceletra prime :p

[rancid mirage]

Try coda bubonico? Inf ammo and strong

[dense abyss]

Being honest, i'm having so much problems with Ash that maybe is better to just abandon him...

even his 3 is slow asf

and with the augment mod, can't even surpass the duration of the smoke

It would be better if it were like Cyte's invi...

cast shards is useless

[regal rampart]

Are the green archon shards good on Grendel? I can’t tell if the + toxin status damage one is unideal because like do u want enemies to stay alive longer in ur gut for the armour

Also does the archon continuity corrosive statuses work with the green corrosive shards

[mighty flare]

not great, toxin dmg is very weak for gastro setup and he alr full strips so no need for extra corrosive stacks

[fierce lark]

would help to know roughly what game stage you're at

else im just gonna copypaste the usual

Torid Incarnon
Burston Prime Incarnon
Phenmor
Latron Prime Incarnon
Coda Hema
Tenet Glaxion
Stahlta
Strun Prime Incarnon
Boar Prime Incarnon
Cedo Prime
Felarx
Coda Bassocyst
Tenet Arca Plasmor

may as well throw in the stahlta, seems weird to include the hema and not that

[oblique junco]

i am in fact within the range of getting genesis incarnon! got my first one today

[fierce lark]

i need to go actually farm the stahlta at some point

multico guns are fun and broken with primers

[regal rampart]

Which shards would you suggest for Grendel? I’m at a loss as to what to get him

[fierce lark]

a couple armor shards is nice, then you get persistence without a mod slot or having to fill yer gut

i forget if meat plays triumbral on his grundle

[warm obsidian]

A or B?

Assume both have Nourish on 1

[fierce lark]

B is literally just mine but with corrosive proj

except i think i have adaptation instead of blind rage

[warm obsidian]

Might just drop Waltz for Preparation on B

Or A with Precision instead of Umbral

[fierce lark]

you generally don't want exilus mods in non-exilus slots

if initial energy is a concern dropping waltz is fine, if you want to keep waltz you can run zenurik or take energy pizzas

[warm obsidian]

Now the real issue
Regulators

Barely getting Heat procs emon Corro Heat

And that's with a primer companion

[fierce lark]

it doesn't do much heat dps

majority of the damage is raw

[warm obsidian]

For Hot Shot

[fierce lark]

yeah, you don't need to apply large amounts of heat status, hotshot will eventually stack to 50 as long as you're staying relatively active

[warm obsidian]

Planning on dropping CB for either Scroch or Elementalist after getting a 3rd Tau

[fierce lark]

i wouldn't

elementalist will do almost nothing, and scorch is adding 60% elemental damage to the existing 390%

[rich glacier]

A little bit of cast speed, armor/health shards. If you go for blast do orange health shards, and purple electricity shards. Grendel completely ignores viral and corrosive thanks to nourish and his 4th. Slap roar and you have many mod slots to spare. Be sure to use his nourish augment for status immunity protecting your persistence

[fierce lark]

if you want more heat procs, replace pathogen rounds with pistol pestilence

[rich glacier]

I use primary overcharge as grendel gets a lot of max energy so I use the arcane that increases max energy based on armor I forgot the name.

[warm obsidian]

Heat is just not proccing
It made it more obvious when I used her on EDA and ETA

Majority is just Corrosive

[fierce lark]

heat is never proccing?

[warm obsidian]

Barely

[quiet laurel]

barely is enough for hotshot

[fierce lark]

barely is enough, you only need 1 proc every sub-10 seconds

[quiet laurel]

you legit only care about heat for hotshot and the armor strip from its ticks

[fierce lark]

the heat status' damage is completely irrelevant, heat is only there because there exists a primed heat mod and 675% crit chance attached to applying heat

[alpine skiff]

Anyone here a garuda main?

[wary forge]

increase the weighting then

[naive abyss]

yo

[alpine skiff]

What helminths do you use on her and which are fun?

My helminth slot had just been breach surge but i cant find something more unique to put on

[naive abyss]

honestly roar

[alpine skiff]

not really fun

[naive abyss]

generic, I know, but it just works well for me

[naive abyss]

fun is subjective 😭

[alpine skiff]

I know but making the overkill damage numbers higher doesnt really help my gameplay T-T

[naive abyss]

I mean honestly it's build dependent, but just use smt that'll make up where you're lacking

like I know some people use nourish but I personally don't run blind rage

[fierce lark]

does lycath's work on her 4?

[naive abyss]

Great question actually lol, pretty sure it does

oh wait wait wait nah I don't think it applies to the four specifically (sorry I'm tired)

[fierce lark]

i dont play garuda but you kill things either with slash from her 4 or blowing them up with the mirror right

[charred gale]

u just spam her mirror, her 4 just primes enemies

[naive abyss]

yeah like the other guy said, you prime the area w four and 1 takes it home

[fierce lark]

yo why does my sister look like Bully

or like

[novel bear]

Viral tempest

[naive abyss]

^ forgot abt this one it's a great pick

[alpine skiff]

Been thinking of it yeah

[naive abyss]

I see it 😭

[old marsh]

Roar, Terrify & Null Star

[alpine skiff]

Why terrify and null star..? She doesnt want high strength or durstion

[old marsh]

U asked for fun

[novel bear]

What about smite plus her 4?

[alpine skiff]

I planned to rry that today actually!

[alpine skiff]

Ah yes, usinf abilities that scale with stats my warframe doesnt want would make the abilities fun

[opal leaf]

What do u want

Fun but not strong

Or

Strong but not fun

Pick now! 💯 💯 💯 💯

[alpine skiff]

Oh also yall give mind control on her a try

Its reakly silly i love it

[opal leaf]

There is no benefit

[alpine skiff]

Her 1 can charge it

[opal leaf]

Might as well go Omamori for that added survivability

[old marsh]

Don’t think his brain is trained to comprehend that

[opal leaf]

Fair fair hahaha

[alpine skiff]

Also was thinking of that

[opal leaf]

Cause in this game, there is no complete grey area, aside the disappointing Grey Area

Not so strong, not so fun, just right

That's my Vauban hahahah

[vernal gulch]

which one is better?

[alpine skiff]

Right imo

[novel bear]

Left
Negative ammo is worse than negative impact, makes it harder to charge incarnon

But also keep rolling

Both aren’t great

[vernal gulch]

it takes forever to get kuva 🙁 but thx

[opal leaf]

Wait till next week and refill, the game won't go away

[dense abyss]

Bro, hard question, what is the primary weapon with the highest base status chance?

[old marsh]

Left since u don’t use Gal Apt. This is important as u will have better viral heat weighting and u don’t need 5 status for Gal Apt

[inner raptor]

on paper whats the strongest heavy blade for a heavy attack build

[old marsh]

Zaws

[novel bear]

Strun prime

Easily

[old marsh]

Think u can hit 1000% SC

[novel bear]

182 base sc

[dense abyss]

ok, sad i don't have strun 🙁

[versed harbor]

think paris incarnon is another good one

guessing this is for the mecha mod

[dense abyss]

yes

[novel bear]

Use Paris then

Incarnon form doesn’t work with mecha

[dense abyss]

Alternox is higher than Paris, what is higher than Alternox without being Strun?

[novel bear]

Paris prime is 80

Alternox is not higher

[opal leaf]

Literally Paris is higher than anything rn

[dense abyss]

With incarnon evolutions, right?

[novel bear]

Yes

[old marsh]

Paris has magic

[novel bear]

Strun doesn’t work because sc is only high in incarnon mode
But Paris is high outside of incarnon mode

[old marsh]

I wonder how Ballistica will be treated with the new Incarnon

[dense abyss]

i'm saying is that its need the incarnon evolutions

[novel bear]

I’m hoping destreza is good

[dense abyss]

but yeah, is a good option

[novel bear]

Yes
But it’s better

[old marsh]

I am an Obex glazer so I wish we finally get one that’s better than Furax

we already have Nami Solo. Need an equal level fist weapon

[oblique junco]

what are some good kitgun part combo/builds?

[west radish]

Hi chat

[old marsh]

Ngl I can’t recall. Lemme pull up my kitguns

[novel bear]

Landslide

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/nathan-fillion-umm-okay-but-i-cant-gif-10759978

[dense abyss]

I don't have Paris Incarnon, so i think this is the best option...

[novel bear]

Do you have bite?

[dense abyss]

I'm thinking in using this

With Nataruk, the status go to this

i'll try with this, i think is enough

So, i need to ask, this works for Voruna?

i never used this arcane, btw...

[old marsh]

i havent used them in EDA/ETA content so cant say how well they perform but i have these from ages ago

[next wharf]

is it normal to get rekt by lvl 21 mobs in cambion drift

[old marsh]

voruna is a WF. not a primary weapon

[next wharf]

these are what i used and got melted almost instantly and also not dealing much dmg

[old marsh]

ye

[dense abyss]

you use in primary equipped, yes...

the arcane works when u use Voruna's 2ª skill?

[old marsh]

Excal unfortunately doesnt have innate DR like other WFs. u need one that is. Like Zephyr or Wukong from Dojo. get them. u will thank me later

[old marsh]

what do u think

[dense abyss]

i'll buy and test

Arcane Dexterity works, so i'm using with my secondary

[crimson cedar]

it works, when you apply stacks on ennemies with Voruna's 2, if you apply complex status with your PRIMARY WEAPON ( radiation, viral, magnetic, corrosive, gas ), debilitate activate his effect and you apply the basic elements from the complex status

dosen't work with blast cuz at 10 stack it detonates all 10 procs and back to 0

but you have no control on wich element voruna's 2 apply to ennemies, it's total random to all status (no physical status, no Tau status, no Void status)

but i think it's not the most efficient way to play Voruna with a primary weapon + debilitate

aura of your choice, arcanes impetus & crepuscular
(exilus free for now, forma issue u know)

no shard for the moment on mine, maybe 1 TF yellow for cast speed add comfort

1 to be invisible, 2 to stack statuts and charge Impetus arcane, and go for 4 mode

[dense abyss]

How she works with helminth in her 4ª and focus with melee?

[crimson cedar]

3 for infinite energy (with equilibrium)

[dense abyss]

Roar?

[crimson cedar]

roar is nice if you are status focused

[dense abyss]

i'm trying to make a Mecha build + helminth in her 4ª

[crimson cedar]

(cuz double dip)

[dense abyss]

I'm using Hate right now because i don't have Harmony

but maybe is more worth for me to just farm Harmony already

seems very strong combination

[crimson cedar]

at first i was thinking her 4 is trash, BUT with the augment mod, it's REALLY nice, crepuscular helps a LOT

[dense abyss]

thats true

i aways used her without helminth, now i just want to see how Mecha + Heavy Attack works with her

[torn blaze]

I mean BotB is currently ongoing so tons of people are running Ascension. Best time to farm for jade

[dense abyss]

because i'm having a bit of hard time against high levels

[crimson cedar]

what did you call high level ennemies, not the same point for everyone 😅

[dense abyss]

lv300+

[crimson cedar]

they shouldn't be a problem 🤔

[dense abyss]

i'm doing the basic, 1+3+2+4

[torn blaze]

I'm currently debating if 2 seconds on Sandstorm and 8s on Scarabs is better than just running Vigor/Primed Vigor. Duration doesn't really feel needed on Inaros

[crimson cedar]

any scythe have forced slash proc on HA, use arcane Melee afflictions and you can ohk really strong ennemies

[crimson cedar]

2k hp is enough on inaros ( with persistance arcane )

but it's fun to have 10k+ hp, for sure 😎

sandstorm everyone, get full life

[torn blaze]

I have 6100hp without Vigor. I just don't want to add an extra 2 forma

I wonder if Primed Vigor would let me hit the HP checkmark for grace healing

[crimson cedar]

8k hp + persistence + grace = lazy healthtank

you reach 500+ hp/s

if you want to reach this point

[torn blaze]

Yeah. You need 8.4k hp to hit 500/s

[crimson cedar]

but you sacrifice lots of slots to reach this

and became ... near useless 😄

[torn blaze]

I'm currently running Triumbral with stand united, ele sandstorm, primed flow, Hunter's adrenaline, coaction drift, and blind Rage. Last slot would be Primed Continuity or Primed Vigor. But continuity route requires me to forma both sandstorm and the vazarin polarity. On top of the Umbral Forma

[old marsh]

question for shards on Follie. worth using ability dmg on her? i got plenty of unused green shards

[torn blaze]

Tempted to add Xata's onto Inaros to see if it adds void to sandstorm

[dense abyss]

Cast Speed for Voruna, 1 or 2 shards?

[old marsh]

1

[dense abyss]

4 strength?

[torn blaze]

I think all of follie's abilities deal Corrosive

[crimson cedar]

i'll prefer this way with Inaros :
Max range & Max STR, Rage or Adrenaline, Sandstorm augment, archon Continuity. Melee weapon with Blast & Tox modded on it, Roar infusion, 2 emerald shards.
Arcane Persistence required, the other is flex (why not concentration for extended sandstorm)

[elfin sluice]

if there ever was a frame that needs persistence, it's inaros

[torn blaze]

I'd go something similar to Inaros and Saryn with;
2 Non-Tau Emerald for+2 Corro Stacks
3 Tau Emerald for+15% Ability Damage on enemies affected by Corrosive

[crimson cedar]

Oraxia love it too, with the right modding ( no trumbra, no blue shards : elemental ward cold with enough STR )

[torn blaze]

Forgetting about the homie Nidus and the kitty Valkyr

[crimson cedar]

Fine on Grendel too 👀

[torn blaze]

Yk what's funny? Even with Triumbral. Valkyr only hits 2100 hp lol

[crimson cedar]

4s is enough

[torn blaze]

I run Bellicose/Persistence on Inaros. Gives me an additional 72% ability strength

[fierce lark]

debilitate is extreme stinky big trash

[crimson cedar]

Niche arcane, works nicely on some weapons

Or advanced mechanics with spaghetti code

[fierce lark]

it has the exact same problems as irradiate

[crimson cedar]

Breach Surge can proc elec/heat with debilitate on specific conditions. Same for Irradiate 🙂

[next wharf]

is there any way to increase exca survivability?

[crimson cedar]

But very tricky

[crimson cedar]

Move fast, dont get hit

Blind your ennemies

[fierce lark]

using debilitate, same as irradiate, requires making your weapon kill slowly enough to reach 10 stacks of a status before it even starts to do anything

but irradiate at least starts doing something immediately when it hits 10 stacks

debil has to then proc additional times to get the statuses, then those statuses have to wait another second to even deal damage unless they’re elec, and if they’re cold they actually just do nothing

[next wharf]

is volt just built different? for some reason it seems more "tanky" than exca

[fierce lark]

excal has a button that makes him invuln during its animation while it kills things, i think he wins the durability war

[crimson cedar]

Volt's shield (3) absorb incoming damages in front of you, it helps

[next wharf]

oh i mean like even when comparing just standing still not doing anything volt seems to be able to take more hits than excqa

[fierce lark]

he’s also extremely one dimensional. equip exalted blade and swing

volt is a generally strong gun & melee platform, speedrunner, can be tanky with an augment or shield gating, buffs teammates

base volt might have better stats than base excal idk

[next wharf]

sounds like i should've pick volt. damn exca looks so much cooler was kinda dissapointed

[fierce lark]

excal is probably the easiest starter frame to blast through the early game with

he gets to ignore the whole “trying to find a good weapon” problem by having an exalted weapon

[next wharf]

what is exalted weapon

[fierce lark]

a weapon built into the frame

that you equip with an ability

ie excalibur’s 4

[next wharf]

oh i see and i just tried 4 it absolutely kills.

turns out im just playing excal wrong. i could still get killed but ig i just have to kill them first

[lavish orbit]

You got the spirit

[dense abyss]

I put violet shards and removed Equilibrium, what i can use in this new slot? (i can put another forma if needed)

250% range is enough, right?

maybe more strength?

[crimson cedar]

Prey of Dynar range buff is multiplicative (+150%, x2.5 the final range ), so you can put the augur mod range +30%, or add Augur secret for +24% STR it doesnt change a lot with your 139+84( max impetus) (223 or 247 STR with augur secrets)

7m (base) x (1 + 0.90 + 0.45 + 0.30 + 0.15 ) x ( 1 + 1.5 ) = 49m radius spread

43.7m radius with 250% range, still fine

[crimson cedar]

you can put your - polarity on the exilus slot ( cunning going to cost 11 ), you still have 15 capacity to a slot without polarity

1 forma saved 🤝

[old marsh]

Nope. Less armor. But he has more shields as I recall. And shields don’t need armor

[glass moon]

is 3 tau yellows on dante for casting speed good enough

[crimson cedar]

2TF is enough

[glass moon]

alr

what stats are good for him

i got like 2 red taus

i can fit in him

do i make them both duration

[crimson cedar]

STR = more overguard, more Noctua damages
Maybe secondary crit chance (with topaze shard), i havent do the maths behind.

[glass moon]

what if i plan to just build his secondary as a primer for viral and elec

dont wanna buy a bunch of primed pistol mods lol

[crimson cedar]

but you want to put all Tome mods on it ? it cost a lots 😄

[glass moon]

it only costs 140 plat for all tome mods

each primed mod costs 100 minimum maxed

and i already have the tome mods

[crimson cedar]

"maxed" here is your problem 👀

[glass moon]

endo farming is for boring people

[crimson cedar]

buy it R0, put it R8

cost 25% of total

(10k endo 500k credits for R8, instead 40k endo 2M credits fort R10)

if you run short of ressources

Noctua is not an ideal priming weapon, imo

[dense abyss]

Ok, so for Voruna:
1x TF Cast Speed
2x TF Violet (Equilibrium)

What i can use the others 2 slots?

[civic shore]

Guys how do i deal with nullifiers if iam only using claws on valkyr???

[glass moon]

melee crit damage purple

[dense abyss]

Its better then red strength?

[glass moon]

or if you one of those people that play ulfrun nuke voruna

strength ig

[dense abyss]

i see

[glass moon]

depends on your use case for voruna

[crimson cedar]

maybe run for 2 red TF +STR : it boost your roar, and Ulfrun when you want to play with the full kit.

[dense abyss]

strength don't impact nothing when using melee?

[crimson cedar]

Roar's buff

i'm not sure violet shards apply to Ulfrun ( need to check this )

[dense abyss]

because i was thinking about to keep 250% range and put more strength with shards and Umbra Intensify

[glass moon]

violet crit damage doesnt affect ulfrun

[crimson cedar]

Yeah, that's why i'll run for 2 red TF +STR in this case.

Stay usefull if you want to play Wrathful Advance too

(less than violet but more specific)

[dense abyss]

what range u guys play?

[crimson cedar]

250% on Ulfrun mode ( dual augments )

[glass moon]

son

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-gif-26545415

[crimson cedar]

put it r4/5, solved

just run Condition Overload insted sacr. pressure

+1 capacity, you can put your last mod AND make more damages

[glass moon]

or i can just forma

7 formas lmao

[vital glade]

so I like using volt, now that I have volt prime it's a lot more fun, but I'm struggling what polarity I should pick with the forma

[lavish orbit]

Depend your gameplay,

• purple : melee if you subsume over 4th
• green : + ability damage on corrosive for 2nd + 4th nuke
• red strength for 4th nuke

[vital glade]

is volt prime someone that uses rolling guard often?

[glass moon]

i mean if you want more protection

rolling guard works

[vital glade]

what other survivability options does he have?

[glass moon]

doesnt he have some augment for his 4

[lavish orbit]

Exoshield with 4th or helminth for example

[glass moon]

that gives shields

who even uses green shards

just got 2 from eta no clue on who to slap them on

[vital glade]

does growing Power apply more than once or like nah

[vital glade]

exoshield?

[lavish orbit]

Saryn, Voruna, Hydroid, Oraxia, etc...

[lavish orbit]

Purple shield

[vital glade]

don't people say overshield or am I misremembering it with overguard?

[versed harbor]

overshield is purple ye

[versed harbor]

naw just 25% strength

[lavish orbit]

Overshield yes, in french it's exobouclier that's why I mismatch, I'll correct myself

[vital glade]

which of his augments are actually used btw

trying to see what polarities I should add with forma

just for general convenience later when I do get a build

[versed harbor]

tbh volt usually has atleast 1 augment imo sometimes 2

shock trooper is maybe volts biggest selling point rn because its crazy dmg buffing for most weapons

[vital glade]

and which ability is most often helminth'd over

[versed harbor]

and elec is one of the best elements if not the best rn

[vital glade]

imma just show you a weird random build I had for volt without looking anything up, any advice is good

I literally just did as much strength because I started using him for capture fissure spamming

[versed harbor]

I mean he likes strength and duration ye especially on a weapons platform style build u just gotta think about survivability and energy sustain next rly

[vital glade]

which is where I'm kinda struggling with

[versed harbor]

energy hes usually doing bread and butter flow + equilibrium (or an equilibrium shard)

[vital glade]

oh right I genuinely forgot about equilibrium

[versed harbor]

ye

[vital glade]

I don't seem to run into energy problems with him

hmm...any aura suggestions?

[versed harbor]

depends on mission type rly but min efficiency and constant upkeep of ur stuff should need that for energy

assuming keeping up shock trooper + speed + elec shield + potential helminth of choice

[opal leaf]

Corrosive projection

[vital glade]

cuz if not, I might just do... equilibrium shards, vazarin polarity for narrow-minded/rolling guard, and madurai for transient fortitude

then just whatevs for the last slot(?)

[opal leaf]

What's what you need to do with volt

[vital glade]

can you rephrase I can't tell if that's a mistype or not

[opal leaf]

That's mostly their build to remove and free some space (, Equi)

[versed harbor]

you'll always make use of a vazarin slot on him so no harm in that ig

[vital glade]

I count as an ally yeah?

wait I'm out of forma

[opal leaf]

I meant that's what you need to do with Volt

Most of the time they remove Equi to make it have more slot

[vital glade]

Where'd it go I had like 10

[vital glade]

that's cool!

what....shard is it again

[versed harbor]

purple

[opal leaf]

Murple

[vital glade]

nice nice

....I do not have a ton of shards yk I should really do that now

[opal leaf]

Just 2 purple tau would be alright

[glass moon]

do i need strength on gauss for thermal sunder nuking

or can i just focus on every other stat besides it

[versed harbor]

naw not needed

[opal leaf]

Mostly durstion

I mean you can on Nuke Gauss but Durstion is more important

[glass moon]

alr

[covert talon]

guys how do i build, with octavia?

i think i need a lot of duration? range, and a bit of strength?

[lavish orbit]

Iirc you don't need a lot of str (even negative is ok) because she scales with enemy level, you'll need a lot of duration though, range is only for defence mode with her augment to make her roller stop moving

[lucid flint]

to add on to this you typically want max range

280% and I usually try to maintain 100% strength for kinetic plating using overextended + molt augmented

[glass moon]

alr

but isnt kinetic plating bad at high levels

since you take a shit ton of damage and all

[mighty nexus]

I ned help with the build its not doing alot of damag in SP please help

[crimson cedar]

remove armor of ennemies, in the way you prefer

Ophanim eyes works nice on Gyre

or Pillage, you have enough STR (328 required WITH Corrosive projection) to full remove

[glass moon]

whats the point in using ophanim eyes when pillage exists

[mighty nexus]

pillage is hyldrin skill right?

[glass moon]

isnt it just armor strip with revive

[glass moon]

yes

[crimson cedar]

energy management with pillage with 45% eff

[hollow plover]

waht arcane should i use on dual toxocyst?

hello?

[crimson cedar]

mostly, secondary deadhead

[old marsh]

because its 3 abilities rolled into 1. pillage being only 1 of them. Loki and many stealth frames love it

[crimson cedar]

if you run precision arcane on your frame, you can use Irradiate, work well with the ricochet mechanic of the dual toxo incarnon

i'm running it with rad/blast (50/50), with extra tox (passive), and heat ( tektolyst arcane )

Irradiate spread status too

[lucid flint]

100% damage reduction is still 100% damage reduction

[crimson cedar]

pillage is stripping, refill shield, and cleanse status

[lucid flint]

effectively it’s doing the same exact thing as a fast deflection aegis setup

[mighty nexus]

do you guys hav a good gyre build??

[lucid flint]

except you need the ability up

[lucid flint]

strength range and cathode current you can nuke efficiency as always and I run arcane concentration to fix my negative duration from transient

[charred gale]

yeah ppl subsume it off

just aegis him

[crimson cedar]

Kyrouxx

[simple frost]

best gauss prime buil?

[mighty nexus]

so this build is ok

[crimson cedar]

ophanim/pillage infused on her 2

[lucid flint]

if you can fit aegis on the nuke build

[old marsh]

bingo. ophanim eyes has strip from pillage, slow from gloom and heat (pick any ability that does that).

[lucid flint]

I don’t think I had space but i think I was doing something stupid

[crimson cedar]

i like the 2 abilities (pillage/ophanim), depens of the frame/usage

[charred gale]

the heat is bad btw since its not modded so it ruins other heat procs

[crimson cedar]

heat damage/procs are juste a small bonus, dont count on it

[old marsh]

ye. they need an augment for ophanim eyes to change it to something else

[charred gale]

no im saying that if u have a weapon that uses heat procs its gonna be worse if you’re using ophanim

[charred gale]

yeah its dumb

[dusky bane]

tbh the entire ability is like
a nothing burger
one of the worst armor strips in the game, a mediocre slow and a heat proc you don't want??
yea, I wouldn't use this on anyone

[old marsh]

still jade prime is far so expect 1 more augment. hopefully its for that

[crimson cedar]

the bad side of heat inherit 😄

[old marsh]

and maybe Glory Gale rivaling Hildryn

[charred gale]

yeah im not tryna stare at an enemy for 3 seconds to strip them😭

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[crimson cedar]

not a big deal with Gyre, most damage come from elec dots, thats why it's ok with her

less energy management stress than pillage

[dusky bane]

but why take a subpar ability on top

[lucid flint]

pillage gyre is just armor strip and shield gate in one

[dusky bane]

pillage gives her extra survivability which gyre doesn't typically have

[old marsh]

because its Warframe imagine playing the meta stuff all the time

[lucid flint]

i just run archon stretch and I usually don’t have energy problems 😌

[crimson cedar]

pillage doesn't help in survivability in endurance runs

thats why it depends what you do with your frame

[dusky bane]

I don't pick meta all the time, but I also don't intentionally pick bad abilities

[charred gale]

gives you a double shieldgate

[old marsh]

thanks for proving my point

[crimson cedar]

2 options are ok for Gyre, both with cons and pros

[old marsh]

or just go circumvent and get a triple gate

[crimson cedar]

abuse for OG generation on misc damage for a quad.gate

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[crimson cedar]

now we talk 😄

[old marsh]

then have Oberon, Trinity and Revenant in the team. Septagating

[charred gale]

erm one is much better than the other but as long as u like it ig

[lucid flint]

clearly persistence gyre guys trust

[old marsh]

and Dante specter. boom

[lucid flint]

wallahi

[charred gale]

persistence sancti magistar slam gyre

[lucid flint]

true!!

doesn’t gyre have like 105 armor

[crimson cedar]

comfort is my n°1 critera, pillage add a lot of energy management stress that i don't have it with Oeyes. I don't need pillage to sustain my survivability ( Raksa Kubrow, and i can put Egide arcane instead of molt )

[glass moon]

i use yellow cast shards and red duration shards on dante right

[crimson cedar]

then Vazarin exist

[charred gale]

yeah as long as you like it more go ahead

[crimson cedar]

levelcap passed with that build 🤷🏻‍♂️

[charred gale]

cast speed yeah duration probably not

[crimson cedar]

2 options are FINE for her

[old marsh]

sometimes have to remind people that everyone has a different copy of Warframe our Gyre's are not the same

[crimson cedar]

Imagine people screaming when they see my Inaros with 2k hp 😂

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-gingerbread-man-you-are-a-monster-broken-leg-shrek-gif-5498298

[crimson cedar]

YoUr InArOs sHoUlD HaVe 8K hp ! 😭

[lavish orbit]

Wait for the x4 citrine prime with 99.9% damage red because they all have her 2nd active

[simple frost]

best gauss prime buil?

[crimson cedar]

what means " best " ? 👀

best to run to the beach and go fishing in the plains ?

[old marsh]

abilities based or weapons based?

[lucid flint]

this one

what is your fishing gauss build sir

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gauss-running-fast-speed-gif-27402371

[crimson cedar]

using volt for his passive

[lucid flint]

real

does redline affect spear chucking

I should try that out

[crimson cedar]

it remember me a clip with someone with a weapon with huge recoil + riven add recoil, aiming above himself at 90°, shoot, and see behind him with the recoil 🤣 idk if it's still a thing in game today

[vital glade]

I don't see why not

after all, negative projectile speed still exists apparently

goes backwards for some weapons

[crimson cedar]

like negative multishot, shots goes in strange ways, visible with opticor

[crimson cedar]

weapon name : " Neck breaker "

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-tony-stark-avengers-kirkified-gif-4618820868378725995

[hollow plover]

is it possible to learn this power

[old marsh]

anything is possible young padawan

[dense grove]

Do you have any build suggestions for Atlas?

ı cant find on internet

and ı dont know how do ı do that

[old marsh]

this is the chill setup. i have one for hitting hard targets but thats more energy hungry

[astral cipher]

Current build idea: Fight Club
Warframe: Atlas/Atlas Prime
Subsumed ability: 1 for Pull
Companion Nautilus
Melee Weapon: Any fist weapon currently using Kogake with Seismic Palm stance
Melee Arcane: Melee Vortex
The point? Just hands

[crimson cedar]

reach + PPP? eww 🙁

[old marsh]

told ya. its a chill setup. the other one doesnt have either lol

[dense grove]

is it work in stp

[old marsh]

easily. u will hit for millions. just not billions

[crimson cedar]

technically, if you hit hundreads of millions on multiple target on the same hit, you reach billions 🤓 👍🏻

Quadratic scaling damage moment 😄

[dense grove]

Which talent should I feed?

roar is good ı think

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[crimson cedar]

Wrathful Advance

[old marsh]

ngl, never considered WA

[crimson cedar]

use it as fast tp, and benefit for the crit flat chance buff

[old marsh]

is it better than Roar? i hit dmg cap using roar

well. good slot in for my 3rd build

[crimson cedar]

i don't run MI on Atlas cuz 81% status (with WW at x12), lack a little to me, btw it's better on large group due to quadratic scaling i guess.
Roar is better with melee influence

[old marsh]

makes sense

[crimson cedar]

I choose the brutal way ( like Atlas seems to be disigned ) with the corrosive arcane, with WA, i'm hitting 80 to 300M hits (after priming)

with no energy costs

i'll enjoy MI on Baruuk/Gara, i want something more ... brutal when i play Atlas

[old marsh]

altho u can hit 108 with Gal elementalist and volt strike

[crimson cedar]

Absolutely, both ways are fine, you crush ennemies anyway

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-someone-song-psnguNpp8hIjQNMB5K

[old marsh]

will try this as my 3rd build. lets see

[crimson cedar]

Roar still better with MI, triple dipping. i'm too lazy to make maths behind

maybe with a primed antifaction + WA, best of the two worlds 🤔

remember you cant use WA for landslide, you have to maintain it to make a small teleport jump, get the crit buff, and enjoy it.

[nova swift]

Vortex is kinda fun too on atlas, makes for easy petrify too if you arent running path of statues

[astral cipher]

Honestly I go with the one big elemental for my funny melee build, and to prevent the enemies from running away after getting pulled in I have the bulwark act as another wall so they gotta go around it which allows for more vortex procs and Nautilus to keep them here and just constantly using pull to drag far enemies back into the fight club

Which having the faster casting speed mod helps the build even more

[untold scaffold]

yo anyone got suggestions for bo and latron builds?

[old marsh]

can swap organ shatter with glad might too. extra CC

[untold scaffold]

Thx mate

[simple frost]

weapon i think

just overall good build

[karmic badger]

Well, do you wanna blow things up using his abilities or do you want to focus on your guns

[hollow plover]

which all to build my first amp?

[vital glade]

when building for Octavia, what's the stat priority from highest to lowest

like does strength even matter?

[glass moon]

no

[vital glade]

I've heard someone say it just scales with enemy so strength isn't that important

[glass moon]

duration is the most important

duration range

[vital glade]

that's it?

just duration and range

[glass moon]

yeah

strength doesnt matter

mallet damage scales to level cap

or whatever the damaging part of her skillset is

[vital glade]

what's the max duration I can put

[vital glade]

what about her buffs?

so something like this

what about shards then?

[glass moon]

more duration maybe

and a cast speed shard is nice on most frames

[glass moon]

i know i said strength isnt too important but i never said get negative strength 😭

man just check ninjases octavia build on overframe

[vital glade]

LMAO BRO

what does strength even do for her

[boreal turtle]

Which weapon is best for lua disruption mission in steel path

[simple frost]

guns i think

btw what weapons o you recommen on him

[mighty flare]

you go qol with shards like casting speed, parkour velocity, max energy (replace flow), or even armor (persistence)

[crimson cedar]

Grendel : trumbra, nourrish augment, arcane persistence : perfect for healtanking ( 3+k hp = 6s of tanking, immune to status to prevent corrosive/heat/magnetics procs to disable persistence)

1-2 shards for cast speed is very comfortable on him, btw i cant check rn on mobile app shards i have on it 🙁

2 TF blue for energy and skip Flow/primed Flow, Grendel dont need an huge energy pool

[old marsh]

grendel builds r very flex in terms of mods and shards

u can go armor shards with duo-umbra with pool. or triumbra with 2 blue shards for energy

or go triumbra with battery lol

[twilit wadi]

Hello everyone, i really really do love mesa, and this is currently the build i am using. What should i change, if anything? I know, hot shot would be nice, but low on creds for a trade, will replace velocity soon as i get it. I can easily hit full orange crits at max stacks, with a red one every now and then. I also have Furax for extra fire rate

[mighty flare]

looks perfectly fine, dont need +corrosive stacks on mesa tho
use something like pv or more crit chance

[twilit wadi]

I was thinking of just putting a 5th topaz, coz i could

i have the 2 required taus after all

[crimson cedar]

funfact, you can reach 2 shield points with grendel 😂

(negative STR + expertise arcane 🤣 )

[mighty flare]

yea that'll work

[old marsh]

+cata shield

[crimson cedar]

of course!

[twilit wadi]

There!

What would be the best secondary i could use with her? Some enemies, like archons, don't get targeted by her 4

Need somethign that can benefit from all this crit, so not laetum with its 2000% dmg boost

[mighty flare]

incarnons: furis, dual toxocyst, lex, sicarus

like anything

[twilit wadi]

Mhh, which one would you say is the best out of the 4?

[old marsh]

laetum because u dont have to grind for its incarnon

[mighty flare]

dual toxocyst & furis my usual default choice for nonspecific secondaries, lex is a bit slow

needs raw dmg build

[frank crypt]

Does any1 have a build for Nezha to fight the Hardmode bossfights? His 3 kinda chokes against the nullifiers so I dont think I can make him tanky enough like Inaros to just brawl it out with the Coda Hirudo

[crimson cedar]

harbosses -> use arcane Zero on you frame to prevent magnetic procs and protect your energy pool from magnetic drains

[twilit wadi]

Alright, will try dual toxocyst then

[twilit wadi]

I already got laetum with incarnon, but can it even work with a crit build

[crimson cedar]

Tennet Plinx* (sry) are fun with alternate fire too

[frank crypt]

You mean Arcane Nullifier?

[crimson cedar]

yeah sorry, thinking it was the same name in english 🤣

[frank crypt]

Honestly, I didnt even think about that arcane lol, cheers mate ^^

[crimson cedar]

Me neither, but it can help. Vazarin Focus for self heal/invulnerability too

[sharp portal]

Any good build for Mausolon?

[old marsh]

yes. crit laetum has higher DPS

[sharp portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ronikey2024-gif-1490840840399576738

[old marsh]

crux to get shit ton of status. flare to get shit ton of base dmg.

[dim fjord]

So I have a tank build going and I have heavily invested into frames like Nidus,Kullervo,Inaros, and Qorvex and im wondering what arcanes should I use with em cause I have primary bulwark for my braton prime already so I just need other arcane suggestion

[old marsh]

overcharge with battery

[dim fjord]

I dont got overcharge but i have battery

I just need to get overcharge

[sharp portal]

🔥

[twilit wadi]

Does this work?

[crimson cedar]

Lord, for Qorvex

unversal fallout + equilibrium on him = infinite energy, augment for his 4 is gamechanger

enough STR to fullstrip without charge Molt arcane

really fun to play, good teamplay with orb generation for mates

and spreading status immunity

reduce ennemy aggro with rad procs everywhere

[frank crypt]

Just tried it out and checked the wiki, they have forced ability nullifiers which don't care about that at all sadly, so back to the drawing board I guess ^^

[crimson cedar]

yes they can nullify your abilities + magnetic proc, it's just to prevent the magnetic proc and protect your energy pool to recast your buffs

if you have an energy pool 😏

[undone dust]

lavosing it

[pale burrow]

I need a beginner build 🙂

[eager charm]

Fury and augmented are nice on kullervo, he has more than enough survivability with his 2 augment unless you're going to 9999 tho

Then you would want omamori or something

[chrome badge]

Why did you kill your Koumei D:

[eager charm]

Not interested in her theme

[opal leaf]

In what frame and what weapon?

[chrome badge]

Death

By Impalement

[opal leaf]

You're a Koumei main right?

[pale burrow]

dont know which frame to build im super new to the game

[opal leaf]

What Frame do you have rn

[eager charm]

Nekros and khora are both extremely useful farm frames if you can get them

[chrome badge]

Eh im a purveyor of her services

[opal leaf]

He can get Nekros easily

[pale burrow]

excabilur, oberon, frost

[opal leaf]

Is that a he's or a no

[chrome badge]

I guess yes

[eager charm]

What MR/planet are you at?

[opal leaf]

Ooo frost is a cool one

And Oberon

Both Good beginner frame

[opal leaf]

How do you survive with Koumei? Full on lazy gate?

[pale burrow]

should i try to level up frost or oberon

[old marsh]

share your Koumei build

[chrome badge]

Health tank

[old marsh]

and it better have this

[crimson cedar]

what are your main loadout with your Koumei sir ?
running mine with Scourge P ( for alternate fire, help for secondary weapon ), Dual Tox incarnon, Okina P incarnon MI, but still looking for other ways ( really enjoy Cedo with her )

[opal leaf]

Well easy answer is... Both if needrd

But I would Suggest Oberon for you rn

Good CC, good Survivability and such

[chrome badge]

Unfortunately it does

[old marsh]

then share build

[opal leaf]

That's for long run tho

I want a decent one

Good for long and short

[pale burrow]

what weapons do u recommend?

[opal leaf]

I was thinking lazy gate

[opal leaf]

Well what MR are you rn?

Mastery Rank = MR

[eager charm]

Always level up all your gear to max before you decide to get rid of it or not, mastery rank is important to unlock new stuff

[chrome badge]

Oh then anything really, she’s only really good for long runs

[opal leaf]

Gotcha

Guess Lazy Gate it is

[chrome badge]

Tried, no one looked at it

Also I’m not on rn

[eager charm]

I have the opposite problem with my beloved Hildryn lol
Starts off completely overpowered and then around level 7000 she starts struggling hard lol

[opal leaf]

Well at least it's lvl 7k hahaha

[pale burrow]

level 4 i guess

[crimson cedar]

feeling same with my Hildryn ( adaptation ), starting to struggle around 6k/7k

[opal leaf]

Try get to MR5

Then get Cedo from Father in Deimos

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/sultan-running-with-chappal-to-hit-him-gangs-of-wasseypur-gif-21394833

[opal leaf]

It's low key one of the best Gun for you right now

[eager charm]

I was thinking abt aviator + boreal hatred + adaptation build, how far do you go with that?

• aerodynamic aura

[crimson cedar]

i don't play her 4, so i don't run aviator etc.

[pale burrow]

okay how to i level up mastery

[opal leaf]

Adaptation on Hildryn? That's the first

[eager charm]

It's very valid, works on shields

[chrome badge]

I can never use my Hildryn, she’s too good but in my hands she’s not good. I lack the experience to use her fully

[crimson cedar]

and you refill all the time with pillage spam

[opal leaf]

Try keep opening and finishing nodes and get weapons and Warframes to level up

[opal leaf]

That's me with Nova and Dagath hahahaha

[eager charm]

What do you play her as then? She was my main prior to aegis gale and I'm pleased that shes basically the best frame in the game rn lol

[opal leaf]

They are too good

[eager charm]

Nova relies too much on weird gun interactions imo, shes kinda pigeonholed

[crimson cedar]

elemental ward, mostly elec, cuz with Haven ON & linked to an ennemy, it self-generate backfire (elec) with near guaranted status, like a tesla coil

with elemental ward cold, she can self-generate OG on certain conditions 😏

[opal leaf]

Oh nah... Oh Nahhh

She is WAY too good with 2 of her augs

She makes the game sooooooo easy

And Dagath??? Ooooo..... Total Cheat Codes for real

[eager charm]

You should try voracious metastasis, its rly funny in multiplayer

[crimson cedar]

eww, people 💀

i'll run Qorvex/Oberon for team support

[opal leaf]

Soloist for real

[eager charm]

Yeah but that's what hildryn is so good for, aoe cc, team status cleanse, etc

[chrome badge]

Oh yeah, does energy orbs restore shields for her

[eager charm]

Barely, 50 per

[chrome badge]

Bruhhhhhh

[eager charm]

How's that? I only ever used elec

[chrome badge]

For all the energy she provides with her 4, that sucks

[eager charm]

It's for team mostly since you should be in constant overshields with pillage + raksa dog

[opal leaf]

I'm loving Zephyr and Gauss now tbh... Idk about Nova and Dagath

They won't be in my roster of the top because they are on top one for real

[crimson cedar]

misc. damage, i can show you a clip (on streamable), just remove spaces on the link ( this discord don't like others links than YT)
streamable . com/ck4kdl

[quartz tartan]

Nova Fun. Constant 90% DR and generates health or energy orbs with Damage Vulnerability ability

[eager charm]

I mean, what arcanes/etc are you using to generate overguard from cold elemental ward? I already get tons of OG from secondary fortifier on her aegis storm

[opal leaf]

Plus she is a Nuke and CC

Enemies get slowed

Yeah total cheat code fr hahaha

[crimson cedar]

fortifier on the (undeployed) archgun 🙂

[chrome badge]

Im loving Mesa rn ever since I got my Secondary Outburst maxed

[eager charm]

Fortifier on undeployed archgun works? That sounds like a bug

[crimson cedar]

Nah, it's spaghetti code

[opal leaf]

I deleted Mesa bc I cannot find her gameplay fun ;~;

[chrome badge]

Real

[eager charm]

Well damn fortifier + enervate hildryn is going to be insane then lol

[opal leaf]

But that's me, my own preference

[crimson cedar]

it works beceause how miscellaneous damages works in Warframe

[eager charm]

Fair, if you dont like her 4, mesa isnt rly for you

[crimson cedar]

if you mastery it, you have new mechanics open to you

[chrome badge]

Fortifier also works with Mesa’s 3 bc for some reason the reflected bullets that hit eximus, gives overguard

[opal leaf]

It's not that

It's just not right in my hands hahahaha

[crimson cedar]

He knows

[chrome badge]

It’s miscellaneous dmg as Angry says

[crimson cedar]

Enjoy the Lasagna modding on warframe 😄

[opal leaf]

Aight imma go sleep

[chrome badge]

Game stops caring about where the dmg came from and fortifier procs off of all dmg to eximus including miscellaneous damage or smth

[quartz tartan]

So do we just run Rakta Dark Dagger on Hildryn pillage spam, or....

[eager charm]

Where does cold ele ward come in here? If you can equip fortifier on archgun and enervate on aegis storm, what's the point of elem ward over something like, silence, wrathful, etc?

[crimson cedar]

B.Surge can proc debilitate & fortifier on certain conditions too, but i'm not used to this, still trying to understand this trick

[quartz tartan]

I can't get over the shield recovery on the shield Caster. It's like generating energy.

[chrome badge]

Also I learned that Energizing Shot can revive you granted you have an energy orb nearby

[crimson cedar]

lazy revive on nova molecular prime yep

[eager charm]

You wouldnt rly use melee on hildryn much, I use okina prime incarnon for raw movespeed

[chrome badge]

And equilibrium on

[crimson cedar]

cold ward was just for flex/test some mechanics, i'll run elec ward 99.9% of the time

[eager charm]

Put on arcane aegis and raksa kubrow, shes one of the few self-sustaining ability dps frames, its great

[quartz tartan]

Then who do I put a melee with Retaliation on?

[eager charm]

Harrow or something lol.... it's a pretty niche arcane unless you want to subsume over 4 on hildryn

[chrome badge]

Wait is Okina incarnon better for hildryn speed compared to praedos?

[eager charm]

Okina is +movespeed
Praedos is +parkour velocity
Okina is better for frames that cant sprint like hildryn/jade

[chrome badge]

Ahhhhh

Im slow (mentally and literally)

Lul

[velvet pulsar]

This game has several different movement based buffs

It's not like we're having a max of 3 categories, there are several which simply are new category

[crimson cedar]

Elec ward : when active, lot of shield for her + allies around.
400 str = 100% status on reflected damage, and x40 damage reflected, on ennemies with no armor/shield, it's nice and free elec priming.
Witch Haven active, the drain (when linked to an ennemy) is considered an attack, and it reflect the shield drain x 40

• heat priming with blazing pillage, cuz linked to haven

[eager charm]

I know, I played hildryn for a long time before aegis gale, I just wanted to know if there was something special about cold ward

[crimson cedar]

cold is just to flex with misc. damage, nothing else

[eager charm]

Also I retried blazing pillage build and holy it's so bad now LOL 🥹

[crimson cedar]

still don't like her 4, i'll stick to my good old modding 🙂

sure it was fun to infinite stack enervate (fixed) as client on missions

[eager charm]

It's a shame, she already was my daily driver pre-augment and now she's my go-to in almost every situation

Silence, wrathful, roar, voracious

So many good builds

[eternal prism]

furax >>> for park + movespeed and hildryn jade

[crimson cedar]

Jade is fun with her 4, and can stay invisible with alternate fire

[eager charm]

How do you build combo in casual missions without vazarin?

[crimson cedar]

"similar" to hildryn 4 gameplay

[velvet pulsar]

Combo for what?

[quartz tartan]

I still want a good Banshee kit, but She's just never gonna recover from Soundquake being able to lock down defense maps in 2011. Too bad of a frame to have demand for a rework.

[meager current]

Does sinister reach work with the Tazicor?

[eternal prism]

why u need stack combo in casual?
furax augment better for all sec weapon

[acoustic bluff]

think it does with ocylus

[eager charm]

Oh, I mistook you for the ruvox for movespeed
My reasoning is that you can get +firerate so many other ways but raw +movespeed is very very rare

Lethal torrent + companion mod is already like +120% firerate

[velvet pulsar]

Ruvox also does give an extra jump

[chrome badge]

I be using ceramic-

[velvet pulsar]

Though I'd prefer to try Aerial Ace on the rifle exilus

[eager charm]

I use furax on mesa/jade/titania tho since they have ok movespeed

Not a tank like hildryn lol

[velvet pulsar]

Doesn't work on titania

Titania unequips all of her weapons when she is in 4.

Furax effect gets removed

[eternal prism]

u probably dont use melee weapons anyway, so furax dont interfere with loadouts. However u can simply use them as a movement tool. u can find out more on cascade server

[eager charm]

Yeah but the discussion was about hildryn specifically and her one weakness is movement, not dps

[eternal prism]

animation cancellation is not convenient

[velvet pulsar]

Though we also have other movement techs

[eager charm]

More firerate doesnt help her as much as movespeed

[chrome badge]

Huh

[velvet pulsar]

That's true.

[eternal prism]

secret tech which you simply dont know about

[velvet pulsar]

Good

[eager charm]

I'm pretty sure my levelcap cascade hildryn run was with a 160% str silence hildryn anyways lol

Absolutely not dps-heavy build

[velvet pulsar]

Most of the time the movement penalty on frames gets bypassed by using transference.

Void sling to cover distances

[eternal prism]

furaxes do it faster

[chrome badge]

What are they talking abt :3

[eager charm]

Is there any update to uriel build with new patch btw? Havent played since his release

[eternal prism]

theoretically, I can fly across entire map using 3 buttons on plains of eidolon

void sling cant

[velvet pulsar]

Movement tech

Also today I realized how easy it is to spam Uriel's 4.

[chrome badge]

It is and I see not a single Uriel using it

[eternal prism]

secret low range high duration build i hope

[velvet pulsar]

Oh that's because squadmates aren't allowed to see ally Uriel's 4

[chrome badge]

Oh

Ok

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-go-my-scarab-gulphagor-warframe-gif-4880873392325418247

[velvet pulsar]

U just gotta assume that by looking at minimap and see if the red arrows started disappearing from every direction

[chrome badge]

Yeah but that might me with Voruna tho

[velvet pulsar]

I outperformed everyone today in circuit without a proper weapon on Uriel.

Went way better than I thought.

Caster Uriel is possible.

[eternal prism]

idk u need big eff for it... and atleast 200 str for ult
and range(maybe) and duration
I tried to come up with something, but it looks so inconvenient, to be honest

This is further aggravated by the small energy pool
even with his large energy generator

[velvet pulsar]

Workable

Charging his 4 needs the marked enemies to be killed and the runes to be picked.
While 3 does its job against mobs.

Because killing marked target is already dropping orbs everywhere, you just have to keep moving after killing a target for his summon to mark another, coz killing that charges it the most.

That way, even at negative efficiency, I can simply roam around to collect the previous orbs when I need.

[eternal prism]

Thats why its not very convenient. Im more inclined towards a hybrid uriel

At least in the disruption runs it showed pretty good results

[velvet pulsar]

Not convenient for one-way missions.

For missions where u r surrounded by enemies, performs well.

Like places where u will revisit again

[eternal prism]

I honestly dont know. But I personally didnt really like uriel caster. he still lacks something

[velvet pulsar]

Well TBH caster uriel won't be at his max potential because the runes will be giving meaningless buff.

[eternal prism]

Thats why I said hybrid looks much better

[velvet pulsar]

And it's not like uriel needs to be a caster for invisibility companions survivability, because he can survive via his 2

[inner raptor]

Whats a godroll for burston? CC/CD/element -1?

[hollow plover]

left or right?

[velvet pulsar]

Multishot

[fierce lark]

CC CD MS neg if you aren't playing acuity burston

[velvet pulsar]

Also later reroll it more so u can get a harmless negative

[inner raptor]

Wouldnt ms get DA more quickly

[fierce lark]

CC + CD + FR/MS/DMG

fire rate is actually probably better than multishot