builds-discussion

[solar reef]

not that i know of

[undone dust]

okay well mprime can also spread it which is cool i guess

like there isnt 50 other better things mprime can do

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleepy-cat-sleeping-kitty-kitten-gif-18678404

[barren birch]

alright, does my build look ready for the guilty?

[static sphinx]

Any good builds for Mesa/regulators? Those are what I have currently.

[solar reef]

get something better than dreamers bond

[undone dust]

like steel charge

[solar reef]

so true and real

[fierce lark]

the answer is because dreamer's bond is actually just useless, so steel charge will at the very least give you more capacity

if you wanna stick with the v polarity, growing power is good

common choice is corrosive projection

[static sphinx]

Alright, thanks. I deleted my response because I thought that I actually fell for a joke, my bad.

Aura can't be the only problem, right?

[undone dust]

health regen is so awesome though!!

[solar reef]

tldr, 0.3 energy per second is NOT worth using over other mods

[static sphinx]

I picked it because the only other auras of that polarity I have are summoner's wrath and worthy comradery

I guess melee guidance as well, but it's even more useless here.

[solar reef]

i mean Worthy Comradery is better than what you’ve got on

Mesa doesnt aim for heads but she still hits them from time to time, its at least doing something

[undone dust]

the evil moas:

[static sphinx]

Alright, but what aura is the best one for Mesa without considering the polarity?

[gleaming vapor]

corrosive projection

drop boreal's hatred

ts is doing a whole lotta nothin

[undone dust]

use power donation and spread kindness

[static sphinx]

I'm only using it because of polarity. It's better than an empty space, and I can't put any useful mod at 1.5x yet, since I haven't used formas.

[gleaming vapor]

power donation is like a arbi exclusive thing

nobody using ts besides meta arbis 😭

[static sphinx]

My teammates are either nuking everything with no exceptions, or do literally nothing, there's no in-between. It would be useless in both cases.

[gleaming vapor]

this guys a troll anyway

[static sphinx]

I know

[gleaming vapor]

i dont think ive ever seen this guy say anything remotely useful

[undone dust]

i say useful things occasionally

[gleaming vapor]

sure you do

[undone dust]

most of the time i dont

[fierce lark]

tbh i would just swap aura polarity and swap corproj

[undone dust]

i wish there were more auras outside of like brief and corro

cookie cutter ass shit

[fierce lark]

growing power is nice but 18% armor reduction is going to windmill dunk it vs anything with any amount of armor

[gleaming vapor]

tbh, nobody actually runs brief outside of like saryn/sevagoth

[fierce lark]

and anything without armor should die instantly regardless

[gleaming vapor]

cant even consider brief a real option anymore

id also drop boreal's for adaptation/cat shield

[undone dust]

yeah thats fair LMAO

[fierce lark]

brief respite is like

actually useless kinda sorta

[static sphinx]

I guess it makes sense, and I have it already as well. But I need to fix the rest of the build, I don't want to use forma randomly.

[gleaming vapor]

15 whole efficiency im crine 😭

[undone dust]

isnt it like 65% shield too

awful

[fierce lark]

woo!!!!

[gleaming vapor]

do you want more shield gate or ehp tanking build

[undone dust]

what the hell is the passive on the boreal mods

[fierce lark]

brief would be cool if all shield-regen setups didn’t also use catashields and make the bigger number on brief useless vs augur mods

[gleaming vapor]

20% dr in the air

[undone dust]

wow so peak

[gleaming vapor]

20 whole dr

[fierce lark]

20 per piece of boreal set!!

[gleaming vapor]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[static sphinx]

Both of these work better depending on the frame. I guess something that is better for Mesa overall.

[gleaming vapor]

both work for mesa

[fierce lark]

boreals anguish was run on hildryn but i think we just cut it for more strength with expertise lmao

[gleaming vapor]

im asking which one you want

becasue I got both builds

[undone dust]

any boreal's contempt users

[static sphinx]

I'm getting vaporised by certain eximus units when I use 4th, so which one would be better in that case?

[gleaming vapor]

are you going above like level 1k?

[fierce lark]

fortifier on the reggies

[gleaming vapor]

becasue shield gate is a bit harder to pilot

but it also scales a lot higher

DUDE WHY AM I BEING FORCED TO TALK LIKE A DARN THIRD GRADER

[static sphinx]

I haven't even unlocked steel path yet. Higher scaling seems neat though.

[gleaming vapor]

HOLY FRICK

[undone dust]

what the flip dude!

[gleaming vapor]

this ones much easier to use

the problem is that it doesnt really scale to cap

but itll work in like eda/eta and the like

this ones a bit harder to use

[static sphinx]

Why is there ice spring instead of mesa's waltz?

[gleaming vapor]

shield gates using 4

[gleaming vapor]

i dont like waltz

also moving faster is nice

you can slot waltz over it if you want tho

[static sphinx]

So, ice spring isn't essential, right?

[gleaming vapor]

exilus mods are never essential

[gleaming vapor]

you know how shield gating works right?

[static sphinx]

I have few warframes built for shield gating.

[gleaming vapor]

alr thats good

i didnt want to explain it either way

[static sphinx]

Also, it seems like I have more stuff for it than for the other one.

[gleaming vapor]

oh yeah for teh shield gate one, you gotta have augur on your secondary to gate

or your companion

[static sphinx]

Alright

Anything that could replace hot shot arcane?

[gleaming vapor]

avenger

[static sphinx]

Alright

What about regulators though?

I have slightly adjusted my build, but it's still extremely suboptimal.

[gleaming vapor]

for arcanes either go outburst/fortifier/flare

[static sphinx]

Surprisingly I have everything aside from arcane.

Thanks

[gleaming vapor]

fortifiers easy to get from BOTB

[solar reef]

to follow up with this, again

[gleaming vapor]

yeah id say fortifier > outburst > flare in terms of obtainment priority

like it says, fortifier is super chill

and flare is just solidly third place

[static sphinx]

"Chill" is something what I'm looking for, and I have severe survivability issues during 4th anyway. The choice is obvious.

Also it's easy to get

[gleaming vapor]

yeah honestly fortifiers good as long as youre not gonna cap with it

hard outscaled by 1-2k

[static sphinx]

I'm far from getting there, so It's not something I have to worry about yet.

[gleaming vapor]

yeah then fortifier should be good then

[static sphinx]

Alright thanks

[old marsh]

pistol acuity or gal diff on Knell?

[vernal stratus]

Does anyone know if there’s anything good out there that helps people like me who can’t learn how to mod, find good builds? Especially cause I’m a multi framer, I want all my primes to be good to play on something like steel path etc

[hexed peak]

Thoughts?

[solar reef]

looks like every other hate build

should use disciplines merit instead though

[solar reef]

what final evo are you using

[hexed peak]

Don't have the evo yet, have to wait until it's on sale

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gabagool-shon-son-im-crine-james-gandolfini-sopranos-gif-5632752440652965130

[novel bear]

Afflictions doesn’t seem great on a light attack build
Maybe use magnetic rush and vortex?

Also weeping wounds

Need status chance

[solar reef]

i mean its the most common-place slot in

affliction, even after the eximus nerf, is still probably the best choice for it

I believe they're just running ninjase' build but with a faction mod instead of weeping

[elfin sluice]

which option outscales it?

[gleaming vapor]

outburst/flare

[abstract axle]

Legit just ask places. Some YouTubers are good. I like aznvasion, and the kengineer. They aren't always the build I use, but the build they offer certainly works.
Keep in mind that Warframe is a very "easy" game, so plenty off frames have multiple viable builds

[gleaming vapor]

outburst scales up to cap while flare scales a bit lower than that (prolly like 3-4k or sum)

[novel bear]

Fortifier will take you higher than flare

[obtuse swan]

Question: is putting arcane barrier and grace on rhino a good idea. Is he already tanky as is and doesn’t need them or is it a the more the merrier situation

[gleaming vapor]

no it wont

fortifier doesnt actually give damage outside of og

doesnt help outside of stripping thrax/eximuses

flare actually helps with damage, though not as much as outburst

[old marsh]

Truculence, Efficiency, Augmented
Take your pick. His tanky-ness relies more so how much dmg he takes. Stand under jade light, activate your 2 and enjoy millions of overguard.

Grace & Barrier r good on health frames

Same for Blessing & Bellicose

[gleaming vapor]

foritifer works up to cap in like corpus cascade

[old marsh]

But Rhino isn’t one of them.

[gleaming vapor]

but corpus have like negligible health anyway

so it dont matter

[toxic latch]

When I am using a build someone suggests do the spots they place them in matter? Sometimes my polarity positions do not match up so they end up in different orders/ locations

I was just reading a guide that said to make sure a certain mod was in the upper left position and I’ve never seen anyone say that it mattered where the mod was located before

[old marsh]

It doesn’t unless it involves elements. Move them how u like. As long as u create the element u desire

[toxic latch]

So, on frames and companions doesn’t matter but with weapons pay more attention if I’m trying to achieve a certain element type?

[old marsh]

Bingo

Plus u can swap polarities around

[toxic latch]

I move them when I need to but sometimes it’s such a hassle and I’d rather not if it doesn’t matter. Thank you so much for your help

[spring radish]

which is better for this oraxia's kuva sobek build

Primary blight or Merciless?

[violet silo]

blight

but that is wayyyy too many statuses on there

[spring radish]

What should i replace? XD

[celest thicket]

does punch through work on the vadarya ?

[violet silo]

elementalist should be on there

as well as point blank

[hexed peak]

any good?

[spring radish]

Im thinking replacing the magnetic strafe

[old marsh]

Unfortunately no. Dorrclave and Ceti Lacera r the only decent blade & whip.

[solar reef]

i forget how stupid afflictions is from time to time

[old marsh]

I wish it had an augment like Jatt Kuttag or Sobek

[solar reef]

ts so silly

[opal wind]

Anyone got a good gyre build for extermination?

[violet silo]

ehhh take off every status mod but toxic barrage

[spring radish]

Copy thanks man

[violet silo]

ichor?

[solar reef]

yeah

[violet silo]

that thing kinda does a bit of dmg

[solar reef]

without incarnon lol

[spice willow]

what should i do? trying to build into as much damage as possilble for blast x xatas interaction on kompressa w yareli

[ocean oriole]

Hello, I'm wanting to try building Chroma up and I was just wondering if there were any non-persistence builds out there worth looking into? Mostly asking since I have three frames who are built like that and I want to save up umbra forma for later/don't have any on hand

[oblique junco]

what is the priority for archon shards for valkyr prime?

[latent adder]

I run 1 cast 2 parkour 2 melee crit dmg

U could potentially do 5 melee crit for overkill

[latent adder]

Theres standard passive shield gating

https://overframe.gg/build/289828/chroma-prime/endurance-weapon-platform-chroma/

[ionic rune]

I main Guandao, where can stances be found for that weapon/ what good stances exist?

[old charm]

Stances can be very subjective. You can find the list of stances for a given weapon type on the official wiki that includes gifs of the animations, but I’d recommend trying them all out for a particular weapon type and see which one you prefer

[ionic rune]

thank you very much!

[wary forge]

u dont have to umbra him to use persistence

[wary forge]

says weapons platform build but or on arcane fury

u have to use avenger as an aura to get dmg boost for u melees

[latent adder]

Melee platform

Why avenger

[wary forge]

his dmg boost only works when ur hp takes dmg

or u get ranged kills

glavies doesnt proc it

oh combat disicpline i mean

[latent adder]

Oh right

[wary forge]

not avenger

[latent adder]

Then just carry a rifle too lol

[wary forge]

ye u can do that

[ocean oriole]

I don't want to run persistence, I got three other frames with it and want something else lol

But yeah

[wary forge]

ok

just do the build jase sent then ig

persistence is just better then lazy gating on him now tho

[violet silo]

speaking of valkyr, what kinda setup would I run if I wanted to do a truth's flame heavy spam on her claws? I'm trying to hit damage cap with em and I'm struggling with changing the mod setup I alr had

I have a couple nira mods on her and im putting wrathful on when I can

[solar reef]

hey so i need a little advice on this afflictions set up/riven for ichor

[velvet pulsar]

Viral heat manifold bond primer (preferably hound)

[solar reef]

after running through averaged dps (over 30 seconds) against corrupted gunners, im seeiing roughly the same numbers shared between CD and DMG on this roll (all riven rolls set to minimum value)

i'm unsure of how well underframe takes dual ichor's clouds into count so i was wondering what you think would result in better final dps

given that they dont scale with CO or Crit, my initial thought was that this would end up with better DOT using DMG but the numbers are basically identical

these are my saryn buffs I have going on for it

I cant even figure out what the best target to test this on would be given that the generic "grineer" target just displays a consistant, unchanging 8.4b damage regardless of what i slot in

you know more about underframe that I do and i need a little help here 😭

[pliant kite]

Any advice on where to slot this Riven on my Tenet Glaxion?

[velvet pulsar]

Aptitude or shred
Even then it doesn't seem like a direct replacement
Better compare the output

[violet silo]

photon idk

[velvet pulsar]

It'll lose its uniqueness

Will become just another chain beam

[violet silo]

fair
ig it works with debilitate there

[solar reef]

it would normally go over photon overcharge

but photon overcharge is like the whole appeal of glaxion

[velvet pulsar]

Aptitude is increasing status chance and additive damage

[violet silo]

yeah if anything its aptitude

[velvet pulsar]

MS on beams multiplies status chance & damage

[violet silo]

needs testing probably, idk

[velvet pulsar]

However because this is a Debilitate build, aptitude, despite being additive, might give a ton

[opal leaf]

Ayy yo

[violet silo]

hm
this really needs all the slots it can get huh

[velvet pulsar]

Shred might be least loss, however punch through on chain beams is good

Though honestly it won't be much difference if enemies are dead quickly

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hiiii-oh-hi-hi-hello-lizard-gif-5877185002260097302

[solar reef]

whats your prog

[violet silo]

mag

[solar reef]

im mathing this out right now

[worn tide]

Anyone got a good Jade build?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-cat-annoyed-kick-duck-gif-5365525105711419985

[solar reef]

what %

[pliant kite]

magnetic 60%

[velvet pulsar]

Replace with Shred and use a Reinforced Bond companion

That's my solution

[pliant kite]

i'm also running it on frost with his crit on frozen targets so i could probably slot off critical delay

[velvet pulsar]

Glaxion reaches 60% CC with crit delay

Frost isn't going to push it to 100% all by himself.

You'll just keep getting more CD

[solar reef]

do NOT remove aptitude lol

checking, its a huge dps loss

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah remove shred

Outsource fire rate

And honestly, a glaxion riven would want CC more than CD, considering Glaxion has tons of CD options:

Photon Overcharge, Primary Frostbite, Vital Sense, Hammer Shot, cold status priming, and you're using frost.

Several options

[solar reef]

In order using this exact build,
No riven -> Over Photon -> Over Aptitude -> Over Shred

this is assuming no external buffs

[violet silo]

ignoring the important part of photon, tho
but best over aptitude

[solar reef]

????????

[violet silo]

SHRED

[velvet pulsar]

Best over shred

[violet silo]

not aptitude mb

[solar reef]

was boutta say lol

theres a slight decrease in damage 😭

[velvet pulsar]

What about adding reinforced bond?

[solar reef]

im not redoing all that

random calc averages over 30 seconds hurt my laptop

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah frost & reinforced bond will cover that up

[solar reef]

but yeah if you want to min-max, over photon

if you want to use photon, over shred

the stat increase will be like trivial though

you're basically just slotting that riven for the -zoom at that point

[pliant kite]

dang and i like that roll too lol

[solar reef]

its a good roll

you get a hefty increase in dps if you slot it over photon

its just that you want to run photon because thats the only reason you can cope with using glaxion over torid

[pliant kite]

i frankly like it over the torid because it doesn't require me to spend any time in that fartball shooter mode before it goes death laser

i run it on frost with his 1 augment and nourish so it can do stuff like this

[timber sparrow]

hmmm tysis opinions

not really on the roll just on the weapon

[pliant kite]

(Now if only i could actually do some nice boss damage on Frost lol)

[violet silo]

personal fav is boar

shotgun of doom AND triple chain beam? hell yeah.

[opal leaf]

Is Narrow Minded and Overextended in one build that bad?

Or it's quite of a niche thing

All I know that 3 corrupted mods is bad... But two is ok

[tough garden]

anyone have a good nidus build?

[opal leaf]

I'm getting flamed at for having Overextended and Narrow Minded in Zephyr

[opal leaf]

Wdym by a good Nidus build?

[elfin sluice]

it's effectively +DUR -STR with an overall range increase smaller than, but close to, augur reach. A better setup would be primed/archon continuity & augur reach - a small duration hit for a massive strength buff and a small range increase.

[opal leaf]

Thing is

Like the same concept of countering Overextended with Blind rage

I want to use that in a different way

Narrow Minded and to counter the range, Overextended

Like... Idk if you get it or if that make sense

[elfin sluice]

if you run narrow-overextended-blindrage, and the frame this is on has a channeled ability, the channeled ability will eat energy faster than if you swapped the mods out with archcont-anyrangemod-augursecrets/umbralint. the reduced efficiency eats at the duration bonus' value on channeled abilities.

[opal leaf]

Oh no, no blind rage

Just Narrow Minded and Overextended

No blind rage

[elfin sluice]

once again, the math checks out better if you ditch them generally

[opal leaf]

Hmm....

[elfin sluice]

if you want range, you don't wanna reduce it.
about the strength debuff, on zephyr in particular - lowering the initial damage of her dive bomb makes the buildup to reasonable levels take longer.

you can get nearly the same final stat bonuses without the strength hit.

[opal leaf]

I'm not running the dive bomb tho...

[solar reef]

most people dont build dive bomb

id just follow whatever generic build ninjase has posted and build from there

[violet silo]

hey malz, since ninjase disappeared right before I got to ask this, do you have any advice?

[elfin sluice]

in that case, keep overextended but ditch narrow. you have other options for duration that don't weaken the bonus you want.

[solar reef]

i dont valkyr so i cant give you an honest answer

[opal leaf]

Ye I'm one of them... Just Wanna know why blind rage and Overextended is used

And narrow minded and Overextended is not that... Popular

[violet silo]

aw

do I just build em like a slam melee

[elfin sluice]

overextended gives massive range with no other viable alternatives. if there were alternatives as effective as it, they'd be on the table too

[solar reef]

because the other chat seens to think you can eat an efficiency loss
you cant eat the range loss

[prime scarab]

What primaries other than paris prime are good stat sticks for Citrine's pet?

Something with high base crit and decent base status.

[solar reef]

but at the same time, ninjase runs narrow-minded overextendded

do note that tornado's pull/range is locked at 10m

https://overframe.gg/build/245043/zephyr-prime/hurricane-force-zephyr-general-use-steel-path-tornado-nuke-crowd-control-defense/

[opal leaf]

Oh he used the same Overextended and Narrow Minded

[solar reef]

as i said earlier

from what i can tell the common consensus is that turbulence uptime > whatever benefits maxxed out range provides you

[opal leaf]

Hmmm I guess I can counter Duration with Shards and stuff without narrow Minded

[solar reef]

range is still important for turbulence though

[elfin sluice]

turbulence makes you immune to general gunfire, and at least one range mod helps out for splash attacks(since they crash and explode on its edge)

probably want archon stretch for that since her nadoes can proc it

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's such a cool ability

Balanced and shiz

[solar reef]

ninjase is saying to use 3 or more red duration shards on this even with narrow+overextended

[opal leaf]

Oh damn

[solar reef]

read the description under the build

[opal leaf]

Hold on let me read

[solar reef]

its relatively in depth

[opal leaf]

Yeah I saw it

And one thing I notice he didn't use Funnel Clouds... Guess it's not a must-be mod bc the pull is important

[solar reef]

its generally considered a downgrade to run it

[opal leaf]

Guess that's out of the build

I'm quite jolly too cause I can see 8 nados

But eh... Waste of 4p ;~;

[solar reef]

but yeah you lose some of your cc, you know have to manage more smaller tornados

they dont lift enemies into the air on the own either

[opal leaf]

Yeah you need to knock them back to be able to lift

[solar reef]

which is solved by airburst but still

the fact that you have to do that is yuck

[elfin sluice]

i don't understand his choice of circumvent but the rest makes sense

[opal leaf]

Yeah I can kinda understand

[opal leaf]

Do you think it can proc if you do a kamikaze attack?

[elfin sluice]

that's not a roll, but he might be rolling out of it

[opal leaf]

True

[solar reef]

tornado groups, circumvent strips

[opal leaf]

Oh

[solar reef]

hes using it to armor strip the grouped enemies

[opal leaf]

Oh and I heard, bullets can do the Mag bubble thing... Barely....

[solar reef]

she has two abilities that group

[elfin sluice]

a thought: tharros strike or terrify over zephyr's s1 for armorstrip

[opal leaf]

Idk, or seems my bullets redirected on some enemies

[solar reef]

dont know what youre talking about

[solar reef]

or they could just use their innate ability to group

an arcane is much less build-expensive than a subsume in potential damage

[elfin sluice]

with strike in particular you also get tharros lethality's crit buff

[opal leaf]

My bullets seem to redirect on other enemies when I shoot at it

Not the white damage it does... Unless I am seeing smth wrong

Imma try it with Nataruj

If it can the Mag bubble thing

[solar reef]

im not quite sure what youre talking about

do you just mean infinite punch through bounce

[opal leaf]

Hmm... It attracts bullets

[solar reef]

oh thats all you meant

[opal leaf]

That's the best I can say it through my language translation

[solar reef]

i thought you were about to dive into something way more important

[opal leaf]

Oh nah nah hahagha

Just wondering if it can really attract bullets

Bc that is what it's like.... Happening

[velvet pulsar]

That's not the only thing you should be concerned with

[opal leaf]

Just maybe wrong but ye

[opal leaf]

Heh?

[elfin sluice]

tornadoes can be hit by your bullets if that's what ya mean

[velvet pulsar]

First of all, are you using breach surge subsume?

[opal leaf]

Nah.... It's... No

I don't have wisp even

[velvet pulsar]

On mag

[solar reef]

neat fact btw

[velvet pulsar]

Alright, so next what I'm gonna say is, the mag bubble thing has several rules without breach surge

[opal leaf]

Even hot shot huh

[opal leaf]

Oh

[velvet pulsar]

Nataruk is not going to work

It'll loop inside the bubble, but it won't multi-hit the same enemy

[solar reef]

this isnt mag

this is zephyr

[velvet pulsar]

This is mag

[solar reef]

they are talking about tornado

read the rest of it

[velvet pulsar]

I'm talking about what I pinged

[solar reef]

i am aware, read the rest of it

but yeah, nataruk doesnt actually work with mag bubble

this isnt mag bubble though

[elfin sluice]

mag's bubble != tornado, @opal leaf AST27 is only talking about what mag's bubble does, not anything else
other bullet fields do other things

[solar reef]

before i go to sleep, just remember not to build for gunCO if you can

[elfin sluice]

doesn't affect the nado?

[solar reef]

nope

[elfin sluice]

so keep serration, noted

[velvet pulsar]

Don't use guns which have higher CC on alt fire than primary fire

[velvet pulsar]

(zephyr)

[opal leaf]

Ohhhh

[solar reef]

but yeah weapons with high punch through are preferred

tragically half of the weapons with high/infinite PT are MultiCO

[opal leaf]

I see I see..... I'm just using my trusty... Ass-eltra

[elfin sluice]

acceltra is fine

[opal leaf]

That's a new name now... I'm keeping that name

[opal leaf]

Yeah, Acceltra is "Good" with Zephyr

Peep "good"

[latent adder]

The direct hit heavy attack should probably be highest possible, with CO + priming+ wrathful + all raw elementals+ exposure

Doesnt that already hit dmg cap

[latent adder]

I dont think they take clouds into account at all

You need to pick the lvl 20000 enemy

If the enemy dies too quickly it will display their total ehp, and make sure to do luck averaged

[solar reef]

which option is this

[latent adder]

In the preset enemies

Or just change manual level

[solar reef]

when i manually change the levels it caps at 9999

[latent adder]

Oh hmmm

Is there another preset

[latent adder]

What does none or custom do

One of those is like... infinite hp

[solar reef]

none just gives me a fat health pool

custom lets you get super in depth

[solar reef]

its 2.1b

when i run these builds at none, all the builds ive ran have the exact same number (2.5b or something, and 8.4b on the dot) with both builds. The riven with melee damage gets higher average (it gets the 8.4b more often)
When I throw on attenuation and remove the faction modifier to try and get lower, readable numbers, the crit roll suddenly does more on average.

also, when i run that melee damage at a lower grade, my average dps trends upwards, giving me higher averages at C tier or so than S tier???

Also, without the clouds being calculated in, it is REALLY difficult for me to determine whats actually better, given that the clouds are the main reason im considering DMG as a roll stat to begin with

im also not getting the effects of my green shards into the calculation

im just super lost on this

[latent adder]

For those jank things like clouds u kinda just gotta test in sim

[solar reef]

basically what underframe is telling me is that I'm doing an average of 6.1-6.3 billion DPS (luck average over a 30 second frame) BEFORE the tox clouds are involved

[latent adder]

With like less mods

[solar reef]

and i just dont think thats true

but anyways, before i waste my hours away taking notes in simu, any recommended changes?

[latent adder]

Was it saryn

[solar reef]

like i would assume melee damage would be the preferred stat on this roll

[latent adder]

Does CO work on pools

I thought it was PPP only

[solar reef]

it does not work on clouds

[latent adder]

Then just swap to PPP?

[solar reef]

which is why i was considering straight DMG

[latent adder]

Yeah Max element and max dmg basically

[solar reef]

its still doing loads of straight crit and everybody else has basically just told me to utilize both unless building for vortex specifically

so im lost on who to believe here

[latent adder]

Depends on how much do u want to focus on pools btw

[solar reef]

i figured

[latent adder]

Like fully into pools? Cuz then u cut all crit

[solar reef]

yeah i got that

any thing to note as to whether i should keep gas?

or would something like blast be better for an afflictions set up

[latent adder]

Gas would be better

[fast elbow]

Curious if I should swap out scattering inferno for magnetic wealt

Just so I can get rid of impact a bit more

Probably try magnetic strafe first

Yeah I think strafe is better

[severe rain]

anti-mesmer rev

[livid quartz]

What's the goto exilus mod for Dex Pixia Prime?

[velvet pulsar]

If u put this on both Dex Pixia & your regular pistol, then energy orbs shot by any of the secondaries will grant 80 energy per regular energy orb without even considering any extra boost.

[livid quartz]

Okay thanks, I didn't know about that mod.

[velvet pulsar]

And because your fire rate gets high, you can easily just shoot orbs accidentally when killing enemies

[novel bear]

Feel like persistence and reave to heal would work better with less investment

[velvet pulsar]

You never need to fly near the ground to collect energy anymore.

[fleet veldt]

Any tips guys if i can still improve this build?

[versed harbor]

whats the riven

[old marsh]

probably CC from what i can guess.

[versed harbor]

yee missing vital sense

[sinful stirrup]

The malignant force is in a polarized slot instead of the heavy caliber....?

[wet scroll]

any suggestions ?

[hot herald]

what weapon uses melee duplicate?

[mental night]

how are yall gettin red crits with Temple??

[inner raptor]

what would help me spam warfan projectiles much faster?
Wind up or attack speed?

[wet scroll]

i do wanna know tbh

[fierce lark]

a lot of strength

their 2 applies crit vulnerability

[severe bough]

Glaive p

[dusky bane]

a bit of both, but primarily wind up, if you mean quassus

[wet scroll]

i don't have influence

[dusky bane]

get it

you have the arcane slot, that means you can get influence

[ruby crypt]

does status from noctua proc arcane impetus?

[dark harbor]

You were totally right guys

Hunter adrenaline procs better on higher lvl than low lvl as i was seen the higher the damage enemies hit you you gain more energy/as low lvl enemies drop more energy is better to place equilibrium

[versed harbor]

ye

[coral crest]

Yes, works with all exalted frames

Secondary encumber on a secondary exalted weapon also adds to impetus stacks

[ruby crypt]

thats good to know

dante seems well built enough for now but it def has room for improvement

[coral crest]

Free 13 stacks basically

[coral crest]

You're not gonna make too much use of it outside of secondary exalted frames and temple

[coral crest]

Temple has like 5 different forced procs not counting elemental mods

[ruby crypt]

energy econ is my biggest problem rn. I will probably have to cough up the plat for tome mods

[coral crest]

Have you looked at your pet?

[ruby crypt]

currently using a panzer vulpaphyla

[coral crest]

I can see that

[ruby crypt]

im js waiting to get synth deconstruct

[coral crest]

Fair enough

[ruby crypt]

the rotation happens in like 3 hours according to the wiki

[coral crest]

It helps a lot if your pet is good at tagging

[ruby crypt]

the build im using is very basic as i need to get a ton of other mods

same goes for claws(you couldnt make me grind for bite even if a gun was against my head)

[chrome badge]

get bite 🔫

its not even a hard grind 💀

also wheres your claw stance

[opal leaf]

It's gone... He clawed it

[urban quartz]

is toxin/blast torid w/ primary blight good or am i better off just running corrosive/blast torid

[opal leaf]

Nah

even if it somehow works.

It's bc Torid is just a powerful trash clearer

[chrome badge]

no clue, torid is too mid and i personally run blast toxin torid

[urban quartz]

even with how the multipliers work on ms and laser weapons?

[opal leaf]

VIRAL Slash torid

[dusky bane]

https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-gif-25974927

[opal leaf]

Nope

[urban quartz]

wait wym nah like which option LOL

[chrome badge]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[opal leaf]

Go corrosive Blast

[dusky bane]

3% drop surely skill related

[chrome badge]

acquire luck and koumei

[dark harbor]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Damage#Overview_Table

[chrome badge]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[dark harbor]

blast is realy good against infested enemies on deimos/toxin narmer but well you also know other interactions as toxin is really good against corpus and blast is good against grinner

[urban quartz]

i understand the diff between elements i was wondering which had higher theoretical damage since priming with corro/stripping is so easy

[chrome badge]

blast is good in general on chain beam weapons

[urban quartz]

and factoring in how the double dipping works with beam weapons and multishot

[chrome badge]

blast is actually op on sp due to enemy density

[dark harbor]

blast yeah beam weapons go insane good

[urban quartz]

i mean ye blast is a no brainer

just thinking between toxin w/ blight vs corro

[chrome badge]

i think thats advisable

plus if you wanted armor stripping, you also have a pet

or the humble pillage

[urban quartz]

ye i just run a primer pet

[dark harbor]

corrosive good against grinner in general and scaldra

[chrome badge]

i cant be bothered and brute force my dmg

[inner raptor]

arcane fury or strike on heavy spam?

[chrome badge]

huh

whats strike

ohhhh ARCANES

[urban quartz]

arcane

[chrome badge]

fury

[dark harbor]

i mean you can run different builds and test what's better on your torid but anyways it depends on the enemie

[inner raptor]

me when i wake up afer a coma:

[lucid flint]

if ur running wrathful is it even worth it to run blood rush on a weapon like syam

[inner raptor]

only if you have g. reflex

[urban quartz]

is it even worth running atk spd on heavy slam cant you just ani cancel

[chrome badge]

atk speed does absolutely nothing for heavy spam

[inner raptor]

dunno. im using arum heavy the animation is quite short but theres like a lag in between

[urban quartz]

cancel with roll

[inner raptor]

18 projectiles on first then 9 on the second

[urban quartz]

ig if you dnt wna cancel atk speed does reduce the lag

[chrome badge]

theres also killing blow to make it faster

[opal leaf]

Just slot Heavy wind up smth mod

[chrome badge]

thats intended

[lucid flint]

might to do the math specifically for syam

[chrome badge]

what

[velvet pulsar]

.

[chrome badge]

oh

[lucid flint]

yea

[inner raptor]

i do have 2 wind up mods. i even made it a hybrid with a riven i got and rolled (ran out of cokekuva) hour ago. had a slight problem killing the 3rd legacyte with pure status influence so i made it a hybrid. still debating whether to run influence + strom trooper or go exposure this time. My frame is mirage so i have a ton of projectiles/influence procs

[lucid flint]

more crit tier or replace the entire reflex setup

[chrome badge]

iirc you can go over six hundred percent crit chance

[versed harbor]

influence + storm trooper O__O

[lucid flint]

oh really

[amber wagon]

i havent touched my gyre in a while but idk what ive done (dont mind the bad build)

[inner raptor]

wtf is the name of volt augment i forgot lmao

[versed harbor]

shock trooper but that was funny

[chrome badge]

IIRC going over just adds more crit dmg i think

[inner raptor]

thats why i cant hit anything. i was using storm trooper instead of shock trooper iykyk

[chrome badge]

lol

[velvet pulsar]

I'm probably gonna craft more rabvee zaws

[lucid flint]

Im just theorycrafting tbh because im still in the middle of the kullervo grind

but planning to use valkyr syam to hit damage cap

since CO is multiplicative on the wave

[chrome badge]

kully grind is never fun, ive done thrice now

[lucid flint]

and I can substitute the base damage with valkyr's passive and arcane fury + steel charge so that would get multiplied with co

[velvet pulsar]

For a zaw contagion influence build, what subsume is most ideal?
Wrathful Advance? Eclipse for double dip? Or Roar for influence triple dip (though can be replaced via faction mod)

[chrome badge]

eclipse

[lucid flint]

Eclipse with faction mod

[velvet pulsar]

Hybrid zaw build is possible?

Like, for both influence & crit

[latent adder]

technically wrathful will allow u to drop cc on build

roar would be highest dps for influence

cuz if u run galv steel on a full status zaw it has like 30cc but wrathful would give it a big consistency

which means highest oneshot consistency on single targets

while still boosting the influence

[velvet pulsar]

I already have a fully crit inclined rabvee, I'll build another for pure status target

Different use case for different warframes

[fierce lark]

or you could stop being cringe and run the almighty coolsaw

[formal glade]

Is there an ability that can be subsume similar to rhino iron skin?

[lavish orbit]

Omikuji technically

[wet sluice]

I heard that Sevagoth's Shadow has bug with armor calculations, but can't find any specifics. Anyone knows how this bug works?

[old marsh]

*Omamori

[lavish orbit]

ty I always mismatch those two

[dusky bane]

I never remember the decree ability's name, so can't relate

[old marsh]

😭 we need more Koumei augments

[azure hinge]

Anyone got a good build for a kuva karak

[marble crest]

any ideas how I can improve this build?

[azure hinge]

I have no galvanized mods and the only prime mod I have is prime shred but i did finish all of the main quests the gun itself has a toxic element

[marble crest]

this btw

I used 2 shards for energy on start +90% and 3 shards for +45% abilities str

@gauss mains question for you

[quiet laurel]

what

[wary forge]

Use parkour mods if your using infested

[marble crest]

no, that's too much parkour it's not comfy

[wary forge]

It is tho

What’s even the point of this build are you doing a slam build or something

[marble crest]

just an equinox speed build

[quiet laurel]

I think its an attempt to make a capture build while ignoring the fact titania exists

[marble crest]

I love this warframe and this build is just for speed

[wary forge]

You’re faster with pv

You can just slam cancel around there’s no reason to go a bunch of sprint speed and just sprint forward with infested

That’s barley faster then just bullet jumping normally

[marble crest]

[wary forge]

You move around slam to cancel your momentum/movement and cancel the slam with a roll it might some time to get used to

[marble crest]

I guess I'll try

but it feels more comfy to just run

[wary forge]

There’s legit no point in doing that tho

Like I said that’s barley faster then just bullet jumping around

If faster at all

[old marsh]

instructing how everyone should play Warframe, I see

[wary forge]

🤷‍♂️

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/the-joke-superman-flying-missing-the-joke-not-getting-the-joke-gif-16558902

[wary forge]

What’s even the point in playing Warframe if you’re just sprinting around

It’s enjoyable cause of its dynamic movement

[charred gale]

thats like probably half the playerbase😭

[wary forge]

It is vro

We’ve all seen it

[charred gale]

the amount of bots in this game is why we cant have nice things

[wary forge]

Real

[quiet laurel]

and people reporting bugs that benefit us

[charred gale]

🤓

like how big of a nerd do u have to be to snitch about bugs like that

[quiet laurel]

iirc there was this content creator who did that

the one who got dagath WA fixed

[charred gale]

who was it

[wary forge]

Vibinquis

[quiet laurel]

Idk the name, cant the vid either

[quiet laurel]

Vtech lowkey was so sick

But alas people hate fun

[wary forge]

It wa

[drifting gust]

I was looking at some build guides for voruna and for some reason ppl keep saying to use 2 equilibrium purple shards, but I did a solo survival with just one and never ran out of energy, should I keep only one and use the extra one for more crit damage purple shards?

[proven bough]

Chat can anyone slide me build for syam kullervo? both of them please

[wary forge]

It depends on what your build is

And also how much your casting her 2

[drifting gust]

its voruna so its melee(it doesnt cast 2 at all)

just spam 1 and press 3 and 4 once in awhile(roar subsume on 4)

[wary forge]

If you’re doing a melee build then ye you’re not gonna need that much energy

Her 3 is gonna be enough

[drifting gust]

On solo survival I've had zero problems with energy, haven't tested on multiplayer tho

[wary forge]

It should be fine

Even if you’re neg eff

[old marsh]

depends on enemy density.

in low density u want it. in high density u dont need it

[drifting gust]

makes sense

[drifting gust]

yeah roar and her 3 are costing like 100 energy each

[wary forge]

Yeah but I mean if u have a lot of duration you’re not gonna be casting it a ton

[drifting gust]

they both last 60 seconds

[wary forge]

Then ye you should be good then

[drifting gust]

the only thing I'm constantly casting is her 1 which costs 38,75 energy and with one shard each orb gives 30 energy, which means I need to kill at least 2 enemies per cast of my 1 to maintain my energy

[wary forge]

Ye you could an equi shard and synth deconstruct on your pet

If you feel like you’re gonna need more energy

[limpid loom]

Is this a good build for One Punch Frame Atlas? The empty spot is for Rubble Heap.

Will probably replace Ready Steel for Corrosive Projection too

[wary forge]

Why we shield tanking on atlas

Path of shadows is buns

[violet silo]

so what would that talons build look like? I also do want a consistent build to play with her, not just one that can hit cap

[limpid loom]

Forgot the fists, will probably add Primed Heavy Trauma to it

[wary forge]

Definitely don’t do that

That build is good just add electric mod and melee influence

[limpid loom]

Cool, thanks for the tip

[wary forge]

you could also drop pressure point for arcane fury on your frame and then just go another mod

Ideally range to help with the qol

[narrow granite]

for gyre what archon is better? red ps or purpur shock dmg [on a build that focuses on her 3 and 4]

[wary forge]

But whatever really

[limpid loom]

Yh, was thinking my range was kinda low and was thinking of how else to increase it from 190%

[wary forge]

Just go strech

You want max range on him for sure

Atleast stretch and over extended

Also not like you really any more damage on him even without something like roar you’re going to be doing to much damage

[digital stratus]

you can get strength elsewhere if you need it. go violet

[narrow granite]

ty for cumfirmin mi suspicion 😄

[inner raptor]

show me an ocucor

nvm i dont think im ready to commit on another aoe secondary since i already have a maxed k nukor. if it pops up in eta i might do it

[velvet pulsar]

You're not ready for stug incarnon

[undone dust]

im definitely not ready

[finite lintel]

Is critical chance good for broken war

[prime scarab]

I'm looking to make a stat stick for kubrow claws and I don't have paris incarnon.

I'm looking at the weapon comparison table and it seems like Dread is the next best. It just needs high base crit and then a decent base status. Is there another option besides Dread/Paris?

[opal leaf]

Like, that has high status and high crit?

[prime scarab]

Yeah, exactly. The kubrow gets a percentage of those two stats from my primary weapon

So I need one that can get high in both through mods but not like abilities or buffs

[inner raptor]

burston in incarnon mode

[opal leaf]

There's that

[inner raptor]

hunter synergy right

[prime scarab]

Yeah

And the other one

[opal leaf]

With Riven to boost up either stats

[inner raptor]

which kubrow btw

[prime scarab]

I'm doin Huras

[inner raptor]

cause kubrows have different crit

[opal leaf]

Do Sunika

[prime scarab]

I am doing Huras because...well, its my irl dog and I named and decorated him after my boy so he's hanging with me

[compact cypress]

more strength or more range for nova?

[opal leaf]

Like Anjo said, a variety of Kubrow have Different crit

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah valid

Very valid

Soooo yeah

Probably find a Riven for it to boost more the stats

[prime scarab]

My huras still has over 100% crit unbuffed and im playing citrine so thats okay

[inner raptor]

mprime build right? more duration or more range for mprime blast radius

[prime scarab]

Just snag a riven to buff it a bit more

[opal leaf]

Yeah probably

It can be a stat stick and a boss killer at the same time

[prime scarab]

Burston Prime seems like a huge step down from the bows in crit though

[inner raptor]

incarnon mode

[prime scarab]

The incarnon has a 28 base and the bows are 45-50

[inner raptor]

it has base 50 in incaron mode

[opal leaf]

The Incarnon Mode

Like... Don't use it and set it as that

[prime scarab]

Really? The weapon table says it has a base 28 in incarnon

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Weapon_Comparison

[opal leaf]

The buffs of Evos does the job

[inner raptor]

so add crit delay it becomes 150% which is needed for hunter synergy cause hunter synergy only gives 1/3 crit iirc

[inner raptor]

crit incarnon nodes exist...

[prime scarab]

I don't think the burston has them though...

oh wait

[inner raptor]

i give up lel

[prime scarab]

wtf? Why doesn't mine

Hold on im missing something gimme a sec

[spiral chasm]

Literally one of the best incarnon primaries

[prime scarab]

Oop false alarm I was looking at my braton

[spiral chasm]

Braton also has one

[prime scarab]

Then I missed it twice

[opal leaf]

Bro XDDD

[prime scarab]

Okay, cool, I can do burston. I like Burston.

[spiral chasm]

Wait nvm i might be wrong

Idk

But burston def has one

[prime scarab]

Citrine is more fun than I thought with a pet build

Grind still sucks tho and I'm never doing it again

Her subsume could be the best in the game but I won't know until prime comes out

[velvet pulsar]

Heavy competition

[tough cedar]

Yall have a best build for panzer vulpaphyla?

[prime scarab]

Idk that panzer really has a ton of room to mess around with tbh.

It wants its unique mods pretty badly, and then you need fetch, etc. You've got maybe like 2 or 3 slots to tailor to your build with things like mecha or bonds.

I think the best panzer build just does the same thing most kubrows do. Stack the necessary personal mods, hit fetch, throw the QoL you want on there, and then bonds.

I'll never build a beast without retriever for example

[wary forge]

good on litterally every single melee

[astral tinsel]

I'd be careful with the "literally"

but the vast majority of good melees are crit-based

[undone dust]

witerally

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411260337184833566/1496543880613462117/attachment.gif

[prime scarab]

Can you think of a melee that crit is not good for?

[solar reef]

pure DOT ichor set ups

[prime scarab]

Like there are obviously ones where status is better but crit isn't BAD

[solar reef]

crit does nothing for ichor's tox clouds

neither does CO

[undone dust]

that is moderately depressing but is also fair

[solar reef]

but thats for pure DOT

most people run crit anyways

[prime scarab]

Fair point. So there are niches for weapons not to use crit but its still gonna be good on the weapon

Is there a like

laetum melee

[undone dust]

no but that would be funny

de let us pistol whip people

[solar reef]

laetum is better with crit

[prime scarab]

Right, I agree now because you bullied me but yknow. Seeking thoughts.

A devouring attrition melee would be kinda funny

[solar reef]

but yeah the only instance where you dont want/need crit on a melee would be pure DOT for ichor

[astral tinsel]

honestly I can't think of any rn

[solar reef]

if you're running afflitcions or influence you still want crit

you could ignore crit entirely for vortex builds

[astral tinsel]

good weapon that is, plenty of early game melees with crummy crit stats

[solar reef]

i just dont advise it because it makes the initial kills a slog

[astral tinsel]

crit is just so busted that non-crit weapons fall behind

[prime scarab]

Am I tweaking or did you already say that before this message

I swear I read it from you like...15 seconds earlier

I'm losing my mind

[finite lintel]

Is a corufell riven good?

[prime scarab]

Corufell is pretty good and it'll probably get primed in a few months

[solar reef]

the riven will suck on its prime

[prime scarab]

Sure but it'll shoot up in price :p

[solar reef]

like theres functionally zero roll that you could get that would justify using it on its prime

god i hope its prime gets some hefty status chance improvements

like i would be perfectly happy if no other stat changes and like

they just give it 25-30% base sc

[prime scarab]

Mm yeah that would be nice. I would like a bit more innate reach too tho

[astral tinsel]

add the fact that DE is just straight up not releasing non-crit melees anymore

[solar reef]

tbf we dont have to build either crit or status anymore

95% of the builds we use are a mixture of crit/status

[astral tinsel]

because most new weapons are hybrid weapons to keep up with the power creep

[solar reef]

imo its the ideal way of designing the majority of weapons

[astral tinsel]

it gets boring

[undone dust]

it doesnt help that most builds in this game for weapons at least are just cookie cutter setups

[solar reef]

CRABSWEAT 🤑

[undone dust]

my crab is sweaty

[solar reef]

noted

[undone dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1325622644019695696/1469971814959546523/2020344174072189055.gif

[modest vector]

does anybody have a cyte build dey can show,,,,,, that uses neutralize

[prime scarab]

lets go Gara Prime finished cooking I'm about to glass all over these losers

[solar reef]

neutralizer builds should be same as any other cyte platformer build, just without the subsume

[near radish]

bonkus maximus

"so atlas what are your pronouns" "i identify as an iminent slew of concussions"

[dire terrace]

is phenmor goood?

[near radish]

i like the fartball- tbh i wish i could delay the charge rate for more status

[wary forge]

mid

[dire terrace]

hmm what would you suggest?

[wary forge]

wdym

like another ar or?

[dire terrace]

a recomended weapon?

[near radish]

well galv shot scales so use it over sure

[wary forge]

well theres a lot of good weapons

[dire terrace]

then begin,

say them

[wary forge]

any melee with melee influence

idealy one that has an incarnon

[modest vector]

incarnon i love the hate....

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eyes-eyeballs-cat-eye-emoji-eye-emoji-cat-looking-gif-9406810929029867845

[dire terrace]

for primaries..

[solar reef]

if you just want a bullet hose (which is want the phenmore is,) then th Burston incarnon would be the premier

but phenmor is still a great weapon

if you enjoy it then use it

https://overframe.gg/build/314745/phenmor/the-devouring-void-raw-damage-phenmor/

[dire terrace]

also what arcanes are good for messa?

[pastel temple]

Arcane velocity, arcane hot shot, arcane avenger, arcane aegis honorable mention

Etc

[spice willow]

just wondering, whats mesa good for?

[pastel temple]

Strictly speaking, not that much

Really depends on the player and the gameplay

I guess she's good for parvos granum

[dire terrace]

how does hotshot even work

[pastel temple]

You apply heat to enemies using your abilities, all your weapons gain crit chance

At least that's how I remember it

[opal leaf]

Preference, she has aimbot on her 4

[dire terrace]

and how could i get that to my pistols?

[pastel temple]

Mesa's regs count as both ability and weapon

So it can trigger the effect and use the effect.

[opal leaf]

Reg?

[pastel temple]

You just put it on your warframe

And you mod heat on your regulators

Then just.. shoot

[dire terrace]

ok.

[spice willow]

her regulators (4)

[opal leaf]

Oh regulators, the aimbot

[candid raft]

Hey guys - hoping someone would be able to help me with a Hildryn build for the index, looking at sitting in there for over an hour so need a fair bit of regen, I’ve seen it done but unsure how, anyone have a build?

[opal leaf]

If it's for Index

Just have Shields... Like... LOTS of em

Fast Deflection + Vigilante Vigor + Arcane aegis for fast shield recovery

And Spam her Pillage

[fossil yew]

hey how does this build look

https://overframe.gg/build/1007527/nekros-prime/nekros-prime/

[opal leaf]

Go find Ninjase Builds

He is more trusted

[fossil yew]

like this one https://overframe.gg/build/752580/nekros-prime/stolen-build-from-ninjase/

[violet silo]

that’s too much shield stuff

just use the dog

[opal leaf]

Not that one

[opal leaf]

What build are you tying to find

What do you want from Nekros? Loot or just general?

[fossil yew]

general its my main

[violet silo]

raksa kubrow

[opal leaf]

If it's your main then why do you ask builds tho

If you main it, you probably figured it how to mod it properly on your own in a way you will likely to generalized on your own

But hold on let me snatch some

https://overframe.gg/build/212471/nekros-prime/reaper-of-shadows-nekros-general-use-steel-path-looting/

[ornate stag]

@tepid bison has a terrible build in warframe

[tepid bison]

thats not very nice is it

[ornate stag]

you started it

[tepid bison]

you dont even play

[opal leaf]

OK what is wrong with you two

[opal leaf]

What happen?

[tepid bison]

he is being mean

about my garuda build

[brittle sleet]

The dog you can't bring into Index?

[opal leaf]

How so? Mind elaborating?

[brittle sleet]

I mind them elaborating actually

[gray quarry]

Drop your build and I will judge it

[burnt ocean]

Does anyone have a good follie build?

[ornate stag]

she said i suck at elden ring so i said her build sucks

[deep grotto]

#1487164102379049051

[opal leaf]

What are you a Kid? Tf is that reaction for

Do you have a better build for Garuda? Or someone who they uses?

[deep grotto]

Childish ass interactions 😭

What a strange reaction to be mad at someone

[opal leaf]

For sure hahaha

Dude attacked an another dude first and now that's the reason why their builds are terrible XDD

[brittle sleet]

Builds discussion best meme channel

[opal leaf]

Fr

[ornate stag]

its a joke bro

[opal leaf]

Can't claim it back

Sorry dude

[ornate stag]

alright sure thing bud

[tepid bison]

he doesnt even play warframe

[opal leaf]

So he is just here to mess around and shit?

[tepid bison]

im tryna get him to play

💔

[opal leaf]

Oh well he sounds like a dumbass, don't encourage him bc it'll just get worse

Move on and do warframe bro

[ornate stag]

bro doesnt even know me

[tepid bison]

i luh warframe

[opal leaf]

Tbh I might buy Elden Ring Back... I reminded the times of me beating up Malenia again

[tepid bison]

do it

[opal leaf]

And you don't know me either

First impression lasts kiddo

[opal leaf]

Someday, don't have the money yet

[ornate stag]

i will not remember you after today

[opal leaf]

Suit yourself

[tepid bison]

ill remember you ccking

[versed harbor]

oh

[opal leaf]

Thanks, hopefully it'll last

[spice willow]

what to change? trying to get as much damage on kompressa using blast using the blast x xata synergy.

also does anyone have endo farm

[opal leaf]

Arbitrations

[grizzled egret]

Does fast hand on companion weapon have any effect on the warframe's weapon reload?

[opal leaf]

Nah

[granite ginkgo]

you wanna start unlock SP, then ur primary and secondary get to unlock arcane slot

get secondary enervate for kompressa, it the most op arcane to pair w xata whisper

[violet silo]

oh right no pets. meh i’d just pillage

nd maybe aegis

ofc with something like expertise for max shields

[timber sparrow]

and get the prime

🤓 ☝️

[spice willow]

also what do i put on my yareli prime to get rid of the 13 extra slots

[silk sphinx]

The more empty capacity slots you have, the more starting energy you have at the beginning of a mission.

[maiden cargo]

is there a build for gale efficiency unlimited ammo rapid shot?

[spice willow]

pretty sure thats wrong

[versed harbor]

nah its true u can hover over energy max and itll tell you I think

[spice willow]

it does

[fossil yew]

im thimnking of giving nekros Sevagoths ability what do yall think that way i wont even need creeping terror

[versed harbor]

also try blast elec

galv shot's damage buff wont work on the aoe component so you could replace that in future

weapon arcanes are gonna be the biggest buff you get when you unlock them it opens up your build options (secondary enervate lets you run crit which is big)

[fossil yew]

and i get liftsteal for dispoil

[maiden cargo]

you dont need creeping terror yes but you still need terrify

[silk sphinx]

We love Secondary Enervate.

[maiden cargo]

gloom is 1 solid build for nekros

[night laurel]

i think equilibrium changes also made despoil redundant. as a fun fact

[maiden cargo]

despoil just make sure your 3 is active at all cost and lowers hp for hp orbs

[versed harbor]

ye you can often skip despoil unless ur energy is majorly struggling

[spice willow]

anything else? i changed out heated charge for convulsion bc thats all i have

[silk sphinx]

Despoil only drains energy when an enemy dies.

[night laurel]

yeah and equil (changes made it so that you pick up health orbs on full health) also helps with the energy upkeep so its like a whatevers handy atm situation. despoil is no longer mandatory to have if you dont want your energy bar to Evaporate

[silk sphinx]

Iirc it’s 10 energy per enemy when at 100% efficiency

[versed harbor]

ill drop u this as an example build to follow dont worry about primed mods if you dont have them yet just use normal versions https://overframe.gg/build/844673/kompressa-prime/bubble-gun-kompressa-prime-red-crit-enervate-dps-blast-elec-or-corro-heat/

some rly good mods worth farming for on here, also dont bother with modding crit dmg unless you get a flat crit chance source from a buff / enervate

[fossil yew]

i know but i woudnt need the mod to slow them down

[undone dust]

okay but you dont need to slow them

[maiden cargo]

i have remove despoil from my build but not all of it

it is still mandatory depending on your build if your a spammer

[timber sparrow]

what the hell is theorem infection

useless arcane

[spice willow]

i know

[timber sparrow]

also i dont talk to loyal merulina users sry

[wet scroll]

should i try to make a build with umbra mods or just stick with normal mods ?

like the sweat crab build

[timber sparrow]

on what

[wet scroll]

orthos prime

[timber sparrow]

oh a melee

its crab sweat bro

[versed harbor]

ye crabsweat is better

[wet scroll]

alr

[timber sparrow]

make your crabs sweat

[versed harbor]

umbral melee mods are only good on a few weapons tbh

[wet scroll]

like what weapons

[versed harbor]

sacrificial steel on some heavy spam weapons basically

sac pressure doesnt rly see much use

[maiden cargo]

useless no lol its multipliers for summoners adds element to their dmg

[spice willow]

not tryna hit a wall every couple seconds

and multiplicitive sea snares

[timber sparrow]

if merulina does not count as a summon does it still work?

[maiden cargo]

you dont want it to be in merulina / yaerlie tho its more on caliban / nekros thing

[dense peak]

whats a good follie tank assassination build thats somewhat low investment

[maiden cargo]

idk what i build on my yareli
i see invis helmith w/ crepacular

• loyal merulina dmg vul

i went gun build for what i see

[glass moon]

would this be good

[velvet pulsar]

Loyal Merulina counts as summon for the sake of arcane camisado but not Theorem Infection because Merulina cannot proc those extra elements.

And because Merulina only has sea snare as the attack, elemental damage infusion doesn't boost it.

[timber sparrow]

so its useless on yareli

[velvet pulsar]

It affects companions & duplex bond clones, but yeah, nothing specific to yareli.

Although u can indirectly synergize it with yareli

[wet scroll]

can you tell me when do i say that this weapon is better off with umbra mods ?

[tender forge]

De needs to Rework Marks like from Mecha set and Area buffs like from therom and Tek sets

[velvet pulsar]

Because yareli applies dmg vulnerability, u can then spam Magus Accelerant on a strong boss and then infuse heat damage by theorem infection on your companion & duplex bond clones, which will deal insane damage.

[maiden cargo]

if you want

you can build yaril with mecha set

[velvet pulsar]

We already saw an example regarding Tesla Bank rework.

Enemies were marked boldly.

We just need similar treatment with mecha set now.

Or perhaps how voruna's 1st ability augment marks enemies

[tender forge]

I mean like sygerist buffs. Like if you had mecha set on hydroid and get the marked enemy damage buff or somthing. There could be somthing more

Or getting therom buffs from tek set

Rings

I know its not realistic

[velvet pulsar]

Coding synergies require spare time.

[versed harbor]

you basically have to justify Sacrificial Steel over the other crit chance mods (Galvanized Steel and Blood Rush) which depends on the weapon.

Blood Rush gives +440% crit chance at max combo so most combo builds use this

Galvanized Steel gets used alot now in place of a crit dmg because it also provides tons of crit damage (more than normal crit dmg mods like organ shatter even) and you cant use both sac steel and galvanized steel at the same time

[mystic sphinx]

What should I mod for this riven?

[wet scroll]

so you think galvenized steel is better than sacrificial steel right ?

[versed harbor]

sacrifical steel is only rly good for heavy attack builds (since it gives 440% cc on heavy regardless of combo which is matching blood rush) but then you cant use galv steel

so if you have alot of crit dmg coming from elsewhere like shards or w/e then you can get away with sac steel

[tender forge]

When using the set.

[versed harbor]

ye since you can only have one or the other you usually use galv steel

[wet scroll]

so i only use sac mods when the weapon is heavy attack build

tysm

[versed harbor]

basically ye

[wet scroll]

it is ok to use the normal versions of some mods right ? (crab sweat)

[versed harbor]

ye

[tender forge]

Galv for combo. Sac set for heavy atack with galv heavey attack effency

You get muliplier from combo

And use the justice tenokai mod

[maiden cargo]

yes but we have new mods now that can give effiency like galv errrr errr

loading . . . .

[wet scroll]

💀
(stil missing condition overload)

[maiden cargo]

galv reflex

[versed harbor]

reflex ye

[maiden cargo]

also truth errr truth mod

[magic cargo]

guys how do i get tennokai mods?

[maiden cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-dog-dog-loading-dog-confuse-corgi-wide-corgi-gif-5677220482674247561

[tender forge]

Uhhhh. Mirror Defence on Demos

[wet scroll]

ik it is a tenokai mod lmao

[wet scroll]

truth's flame

i think it is a heavy spam build you are reffering to

[tender forge]

Get Nokko subsume Gloom on 3 and get strenght and range for easy farming

[magic cargo]

another way if i dont have nokko?

[versed harbor]

just buy the tennokai mods lowkey the store bundle is pretty decent

[tender forge]

And the range tenokai mod for 4 second kai duration

[magic cargo]

the only thing i bought in warframe was that revenant skin lol