builds-discussion

[near vortex]

Warframe companion app

[subtle solstice]

does buffing ability strength also strengthen the damage increase from damage increase abilities?

[near vortex]

Yep

[wet scroll]

i am downloading that

[humble arch]

Is gotva prime any good in sp and is it good with volt prime?

[near vortex]

It's usable and Volt is John Frame

You can use basically anything on him

[twilit crest]

Hell nah

[subtle solstice]

so theoretically shouldnt roar buff itself if you use it twice?

[twilit crest]

Wdym

[subtle solstice]

roar buffs ability strength, right?

[twilit crest]

Erm I don’t think it works like that

[wet scroll]

Yh it is not working properly

[mighty flare]

No

[subtle solstice]

It doesnt? Are you sure?

[mighty flare]

Yes

[subtle solstice]

so it only buffs weapon strength?

[twilit crest]

I mean if it worked the way u said it did no one would build ability strength xd

It would be redundant if u could just endlessly recast roar and each roar is stronger than the previous would break the game

[subtle solstice]

well i wasnt thinking endlessly. It'd probably have a limit

[subtle solstice]

it says it increases damage but on mirage's eclipse it says it increases weapon damage

[twilit crest]

Ya it buffs abilities

[subtle solstice]

so it DOES buff abilites. Why did the other guy say no?

[twilit crest]

Cuz it doesn’t give strength the way u described

[subtle solstice]

i wasnt trying to say it gives ability strength endlessly

ah nvm it was just a hypothetical, it's not too important

[humble arch]

Do u know which weapons work best/synergize with volt ?

[twilit crest]

With volt u can make anything work i was just trolling

[humble arch]

Oh 😭

[mighty flare]

Roar buffs both damage done by weapons and abilities with a faction bonus

Eclipse also buffs damage done by weapons and ability, but with a raw damage increase instead of a faction bonus, and the amount of abilities it applies to are limited

[subtle solstice]

you mean fraction, faction, or %?

[mighty flare]

Faction

[subtle solstice]

gotcha

[latent adder]

Innodem, syam, hate incarnon, ceramic dagger incarnon, contagion influence

[proud drift]

Hay everyone I was wondering if this was a good start enough build for the Nataruk bow to use in steel path. And wanted feed back for it.

[wet scroll]

how did you get an arcane on your nataruk ?

[proud drift]

I had a primary arcane adapter from one of the events that happened.

And used it on my Nataruk bow

[tawdry trail]

Well you're not exactly gonna trigger the arcane without toxin damage but the rest looks good

[proud drift]

I see what arcanes should I use for the Nataruk?

[tawdry trail]

I use longbow sharpshot but it's pretty rare

[old marsh]

Deadhead, merciless

[tawdry trail]

Deadhead would probably be the next best thing

[old marsh]

Whatever u can upkeep without issues

[tawdry trail]

Deadhead would probably make galv. scope easier to stack

[proud drift]

Hm I think I have deadhead but I don't know where to farm it to rank it up to max

[twilit crest]

Acolytes in sp

Or just buy it for like 10 plat

[tawdry trail]

Chances are you'll end up with many deadheads in the future

[proud drift]

I'll have to try my luck with the acolytes cause I ain't got plat to spend at all

[tawdry trail]

They spawn in every steel path mission past 4 minutes I think?

[proud drift]

So just do a bunch of exterminate missions to spawn them in?

[old marsh]

Just do steel path star chart. One spawns every 5 minutes. Orr u can do what most people don’t dare to do. Perita Rebellion in steel path. One spawns every 3 orders roughly and sometimes as part of order so u can kill upto 5 vanguards in a span of 12 minutes.

It is arguably the fastest steel essence and SP arcane farm in the game

[proud drift]

Yeah I ain't doing that alone at all

[formal tusk]

Idk, full strip (heat+corrosive) is peak

[opal leaf]

Waste of Mod slot for sure

Eh that's me, I can't really judge you on that bc you do you

Just so you know, partial armor strip is enough

[old marsh]

It is the fastest way

[proud drift]

I know but I ain't doing the perita rebellion alone in steel path

[opal leaf]

Do it

[proud drift]

My Nataruk ain't that good when it comes to level 165 enemies

[tawdry trail]

Might be able to find a squad doing it, public lobbies usually blitz everything

[warm pond]

this is on my mirage its not tanky enough and cata shields and fast deflec are the only mods i can replace and aegis too what should i do?

[formal tusk]

@opal leaf What do u slap on sevagoth shadow as an aura mod?

Cause i slapped a steel charge

[opal leaf]

Corrosive Projection

[formal tusk]

Better than steel charge?

[opal leaf]

I mean it gives enemies -18% armor so yeah

Steel charge sucks tho

[formal tusk]

Isnt it multiplicative?

Js googled it

Yep, u right, it sucks

[opal leaf]

Told ya

[violet silo]

if it’s not tanky enough you just MOD HARDER
throw vigi vigor in there too

[topaz verge]

Thoughts?

[formal tusk]

How does catalyzing shields work?

[tawdry trail]

Talons don't end up triggering influence much iirc

But they work fine with pretty much any arcane

[warm obsidian]

Do I go full orange Tau on Mesa?

[tawdry trail]

Parkour shards are nice if you're using mesa's waltz

[opal leaf]

It makes you have a constant shield gate (the grey part of the health when your shield broke) of 1.33 seconds

[deep grotto]

Practice for doing the Guilty

[gleaming vapor]

4 orange 1 cast is comfy from experience

could go 3 orange 1 cast 1 pv if you want

[prime scarab]

Alright, trying to land on my next frame to build.

I like ability heavy frames that don't need their guns as much, though a build like Frost where you nuke the room with your ice and then tenet glaxion to shatter them all is okay too.

The frames left on my list that interest me at a glance are Gara, Khora, Saryn, Mag, Hydroid, and Trinity.

Anyone have any strong opinions about those?

[gleaming vapor]

saryn WP is much stronger than anything spores could ever dream of

so prolly not saryn if you want ability heavy frames

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I'll probably loop back to Saryn then and build her at the same time I build my Oraxia fully. She's like 75% right now and I just keep putting it off until I get my kuva sobek eventually

[quaint halo]

Gara can infinite damage loop and psuedo-exalted melee at people

[chrome badge]

You can use ultimate fallout on gara which I find neat as a source of infinite energy

Just perpetual swipes

[quaint halo]

Defenses-wise, Gara's got a 90% DR ability. Not really enough health or armor to hugely leverage that without investment, but it's some good comfort. Her ability spam cycle is casting her 2, then looping her 4 and 1 to constantly build up damage stacks unto infinity.

[quaint halo]

Radiation/Electric Melee Influence shenanigans

It's not NI damage looping, but it's... enough, for most people.

[chrome badge]

Thats one way to but you could just use her shattered lash with influence to clear rooms

[quaint halo]

You absolutely can, which is nice! gara gives you two top-tier options to explore

[prime scarab]

That does sound neat. I liked Atlas pressing a button to punch rooms to death and lash sounds like that

[silk sphinx]

It takes your Warframe’s max shields and multiplies it by 0.20 and gives you 1.33 seconds of shield gating when your shields are broken.

[formal tusk]

What is shield gating?

[silk sphinx]

Total damage immunity for a few seconds when your shields are broken.

Some Warframes take advantage of fast shield recharges to create a pseudo immortality.

[formal tusk]

Basically 1.33s immunity

[silk sphinx]

Yeah

[formal tusk]

Now how does sevagoth abuse that?

[prime scarab]

Any ability casting frame can just press an ability, which they are already doing by playing, to max shields any time they break

Looping invincibility

[quaint halo]

Brief Respite + Catalyzing Shields + Blind Rage + Cast Sow a lot

[silk sphinx]

The thing about Catalyzing Shields is that it does lower your max shields by 20% so if you don’t have a way to stay alive without shields you’re in trouble if you fail to recharge them in time.

[gleaming vapor]

neg efficiency on sevagoth 🥀

[silk sphinx]

I’ve been a personal victim of that.

[quaint halo]

Granted, Gloom is a hungry hungry ability

[gleaming vapor]

just run neutral eff dawg

cat shields gives the full gate with any shield

[near vortex]

What part of blind rage affects survival

[gleaming vapor]

neg eff makes active gating less comfy

[quaint halo]

Blind Rage increases the energy you use to cast, which means that Brief Respite provides more shields per cast

[silk sphinx]

Catalyzing Shields, not Blind Rage.

[near vortex]

That doesn't matter

You have brief respite

[gleaming vapor]

which doesn’t matter if you’re using cat shields

[near vortex]

Cata shields don't give a crap if you have 1 shield or 100000000 shields

[gleaming vapor]

because, like I said, ANY amount of shields gets you the full 1.33

[near vortex]

No point in tanking efficiency on John energy eating frame

Unless you're based and subsume off Gloom

[quaint halo]

Oh yeah, that unintended functionality still works. I forgor.

[gleaming vapor]

calcing energy drain to optimize shield gate is some 2018 shit

[near vortex]

In which you might get by with energize shadow

[quaint halo]

Gloom to Nourish

[near vortex]

I have Gloom to Roar and Gloom to Tempest Barrage

[quaint halo]

Tempest Barrage is very based

[gleaming vapor]

sevagoth needs roar to nuke at a decent strength

255 with roar, ~600 without roar

[near vortex]

Roar is just that good and Tempest Barrage works very well for the cascade neg duration build

[gray quarry]

you can get your shields down as low as 2 if on grendel with that arcane that gives you more shields for the amount of str

[near vortex]

Assuming no viral

[gleaming vapor]

no shot you’re viral priming for sevagoth

[near vortex]

Tempest Barrage with augment

[gleaming vapor]

255 is not that high of a barrier brotato chip 😭

just run roar

[near vortex]

I have a Roar build

[formal tusk]

Idk what exactly im doing but i hope im doing smth right (dont mind the shadow aura, im gonna change it)

[near vortex]

But roar feels bad in Cascade because frame vuln

Ergo, Tempest Barrage min duration

I have Huras for both builds but Tempest Barrage don't care about duration

[gray quarry]

Wrong

[near vortex]

TF you mean wrong

Do you know what frame vuln is

[quaint halo]

855 armor

[gleaming vapor]

just kill the ghost faster

[shut saffron]

yo so matter of fact this is a skill issue

[gleaming vapor]

then you don’t have to worry about vuln

[opal leaf]

Gauss hahaha

[formal tusk]

Ig im doing something wrong?

[prime scarab]

This is...not the experience I have had

[gray quarry]

[near vortex]

Sometimes you die because you parked your frame with Roar active

[gleaming vapor]

bro

[near vortex]

It doesn't feel great

[prime scarab]

Oh thats a skill issue bud

[shut saffron]

^

[quaint halo]

I'm mostly just confused how we got here

[near vortex]

Min duration doesn't hurt the build and Tempest Barrage does the same thing Roar does but with viral

I don't need to KPM demon the lobby

[opal leaf]

Where did you even go 😭

[gray quarry]

tempest barrage does not give abikity damage

[near vortex]

Viral priming

[quaint halo]

I moved, drove me nuts

[formal tusk]

As in?

[near vortex]

Same difference
One shot anything I press buttons on

[quaint halo]

Did you invest blue shards for armor?

[near vortex]

And I don't use much energy because fleeting expertise

[formal tusk]

Absolutely NOTHING

[prime scarab]

...yeah that isn't what Roar does though, so why are you suggesting Tempest Barrage does the same thing?

Tempest Barrage is SIGNIFICANTLY weaker

[near vortex]

Because I can do the same thing

But not have to run duration

[quaint halo]

...The problem is I failed to read the word "shadow"

I thought you had 855 armor on Sevagoth himself

[near vortex]

I really want persistence shadow to work sometime
Maybe some day

[karmic parcel]

I agree with you, its so much better. Don't listen to them, they would never understand. Just do what works best for you

[gray quarry]

Not enough

[near vortex]

For now shield gate and spawn invuln does fine

[formal tusk]

Neat, im wondering how the builds are, as in are they usable?

[quaint halo]

I mean, you have all the basic parts here. You'd just need to make up some strength.

[gray quarry]

Wrong

[near vortex]

5 seconds of shadow invuln on summon, 3s from RG if I have it equipped and shield gate

[quaint halo]

Usable as a start, definitely.

[near vortex]

Shadow stays out long enough to do its thing and go back in

[formal tusk]

Any necessary changes?

[quaint halo]

Melee Careen should be filled up, for sure, to maximize the claws' use as a single-target option

Consider Arcane Circumvent for the Shadow, for easier defenses

[solar reef]

i just cata shield gate with evade on harrow

ripkas lets me use some bs like dual tox comfortably

[quaint halo]

Invisible harrow is hilarious

[formal tusk]

Something else?

[solar reef]

like i’m never taking harrow anywhere where i’m genuinely worried about its viability anyways

not that its a bad set up or anything but its not like

its not great

it just means i can play him even more brainlessly

[quaint halo]

Vitality and Armored Agility will probably prove suboptimal in time, but that's a matter of finding replacements for further speccing into as you find shortages in your play

[quaint halo]

Do you run him with Dread?

[solar reef]

Scourge + Dual Tox

best way to upkeep that invisibility

[quaint halo]

That will definitely solve the problem of rooms having enemies in them

[solar reef]

with ripkas i dont have to worry about ips gore

so it works out fine

[dreamy kraken]

Whats the best trinity solo eidolon build?

[storm badge]

Does anyone have a good xaku build I have 0 idea how to build them

[dense peak]

found ts on yt is this a good nokko build no blind rage seems weird

[old marsh]

Adaptation isn’t fully ranked so clearly garbage build

[dense peak]

i mean maybe another build needed it at 8

[old marsh]

U build Xaku with balanced stats. High range and strength. 235 range and 200+ strength is recommended. Rolling guard or circumvent, your choice

[fleet veldt]

anyone got a nuke gauss build?

[old marsh]

Then the YTer didn’t play the game enough to have Forma on every WF that needed it which also clearly means he hasn’t played WF enough to make a good enough Nokko build. I rest my case

[prisma heart]

can someone share a good kuva zarr build to pair with gauss + ammo efficent helmith pls

[dense peak]

then what is a good build

[dense peak]

someone 1 month ago said it was a good easy build so idk

[old marsh]

High range and STR. 280 range and 200+ STR. And if u r using circumvent, u don’t need adaptation & PSF and vice versa. Like wtf is PSF doing there if u r using circumvent

It’s like saying u need PSF on Rhino or Dante or Styanax or Atlas

[dense peak]

his survivability is bad so maybe thats why idk

if you wont help ig i wont build him because i heard his mid because he isnt mobile

[silk sphinx]

He has an easy revive method though. You just need a brightbonnet down.

[old marsh]

Circumvent solves all problems once u steal overguard from eximus. Which u encounter a ton in steel path. And if u play in star chart, u can just stick to using adaptation and use another arcane like Crepuscular (which is essential for Nokko)

Not to mention Nokko is basically unkillable as long as u have atleast one mushroom active

[silk sphinx]

Not to mention having the unbound Unairu passives.

[old marsh]

All in all. Build has redundancies. Which u can remove to make space for better mods/arcanes

[silk sphinx]

Those help if the Brightbonnets fail or aren’t down.

[half cedar]

For the Mesa gang I have a few questions

1. When paired with Arcane Velocity, which is better? Arcane Avenger or Arcane Hot Shot?

2. When using Epitaph mainly as primer, which Arcane is best? Cascadia Flare or Secondary Fortifier?

3. For the Regulators, is there a good alternative for Secondary Outburst?

Notes: Using 5 Tauforged Topaz, using Rolling Guard + Equilibrium, no Furax Wraith or Ceramic Dagger incarnon yet

[latent adder]

hotshot, fortifier, fortifier lol otherwise ig flare

[half cedar]

Okay thanks dude

If only max Hot Shot didn't cost as much as her Heirloom LMAO

BUT OUR WORK GOES ON

[waxen wharf]

Hello!
I'd like to try and find myself a build for Acceltra since im having a little trouble with it, ammo and damage wise. Do you guys have any suggestions?
An akarius one would be great, too!

[old marsh]

Hotshot has higher ceiling. Avenger has easier upkeep. Take your pick
Fortifier when in steel path. Flare in star chart. (Eximus has much higher density in SP)
Enervate or Fortifier or Flare (all work upto ETA content without issue)

[old marsh]

Energized Munitions subsume if u have that available. And Carrier sentinel

[waxen wharf]

Interesting, where can i get that, too?

[old marsh]

Which one?

[waxen wharf]

Energized munitions, it seems very eye-catching for a gun-based frame like gauss

[twin pine]

its in the based helminth

[old marsh]

It’s a Helminth subsume. Check wiki what Helminth is. It’s a long process but it is worth it in the long run for EVERY Warframe in the game

Till then use Carrier sentinel for ammo

I can share Akarius build coz I really love it.

[waxen wharf]

I do hear alot about the helminth and its uses at the late-end game, i do wonder how can i easily level it up?
So far i thought of getting base frames, maxxing them for mastery and then subsuming them

[twin pine]

i think protea can be a bit help interms of ammo economy as well if you need(dispensary)

[old marsh]

That’s how u do it but u r hit with a subsume cap early on so u need to do some invigorations as well to unlock more slots

[waxen wharf]

Her dispensers seem pretty good, too, i've seen ppl use her

[old marsh]

Or be Cyte

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe-1999-amir-beckett-quincy-isaacs-gif-598994283070582591

[twin pine]

as well built my cyte is, i have issue aiming

[half cedar]

Dispensary is a huge QOL and prolly leaves room to build more damage in your mod setups

[rugged quarry]

Anyone got any good idea for archon shards build for excalibur umbra?

[twin pine]

imo, ability strenght -> duration > armor/health

nothing much of a synergy unless you built blast for on his exalted for orange shards

[half cedar]

Hmmmm

I use the Tauforged Violet shards, slot in the Crit. Damage

But it's more high investment since you will need Primed Flow

You can use Red shards for the extra ability strength, Furious Javelin augment will love it

[twin pine]

oh i forgot about purple

most probs melee crit dmg yeah

[half cedar]

I'm still too scared to remove the Umbra polarities XD

[twin pine]

i seen people building 2 orange 3 purple

2 orange for health, 3purple for melee damage

[rugged quarry]

Ah thx tau forged?

[half cedar]

Yep

[twin pine]

you can use basic first until you have a replacement for tau

[twin pine]

this is if you are on influence blast

[old marsh]

All 5 purple crit dmg shards

[half cedar]

Personally I don't like to use Furious Javelin since you need a LOT of enemies to use the boost to the max

But this won't work for certain cases where you are 1v1'ing enemies

That's just me though

[waxen wharf]

Step 1 done
Cyte-09 acquired 🤑

[twin pine]

same

also i personally dont think its worth to sacrifice a slot for that

[half cedar]

Plus when you're in a squad, it's more likely they will nuke entire groups before the Furious Javelin buff procs lmfao

So I just subsumed Wrathful Advance over Radial Javelin and prioritized single target specialty (Melee Influence can occassionally clear waves too)

Plus having two augment slots in Excal just for the max damage boost just doesn't rub me the right way

Take it with a grain of salt though, I am not willing to replace the Umbra polarities HAHAHAHA

[twin pine]

same, especially umbra mods are quite difficult to get and if next time if you want to use triple umbra shenanigans

[half cedar]

Just imagine if they buff the mods

I mean, prolly never gonna happen but you never know XD

[twin pine]

[half cedar]

Triple Umbral mods are already strong for certain cases like Valkyr

[twin pine]

i use 2 umbra on valk

and its already good

[half cedar]

I don't even replace the Sacrifical Mods on my Exalted Blade XD the flat bonus feels nice

[twin pine]

didnt really put on umbral armor on her since she has 2 way to incrase her armor by alot, and also her base armor is already at 1000, would rather use some other mods on her like range for her zipline grouping.

UNLESS i am doing level cap

[half cedar]

I should start building her again

[twin pine]

my goat, my fav

[finite lintel]

https://overframe.gg/build/731864/kuva-sobek/saryns-arsenal-thrax-one-shot-variant-sobek-acid-shells/

Is this build good someone said it was

[twin pine]

ninjase my goat

looks good honestly

[finite lintel]

Is the build good?

Ok i want to do the saryn sobek combo as my first nuke type build

[twin pine]

tho it need 2 sobek mods

[finite lintel]

Tbe acid shells and the clip something right?

[latent adder]

Acid shells is mandatory, clip delegation not so much

[finite lintel]

Oh your the guy who made the build

[twin pine]

yo my goat

everywhere i go, i see ninjase

[finite lintel]

Thats cool well over all is tbat build good

[finite lintel]

I dont really have primed mods

[twin pine]

mainly for saryn synergy yeah

[finite lintel]

Ok thats what im going for

[old marsh]

That’s fine. Just use regular versions till then. U can use this Saryn build for ESO assuming that’s your main goal

Actually. Lemme pull up an updated one

[finite lintel]

And which ones do i forma slot

[old marsh]

Whichever takes the most space

[finite lintel]

Ok

[finite lintel]

Thank you aswell

[dense smelt]

Sooooo, I got Voruna prime. What mods would be recommended for her? Mainly for general uses? :>

[mighty flare]

you can look at: #1492606866482794601 message for examples

[dense smelt]

Ah, thank youuu

[latent adder]

https://overframe.gg/build/410147/voruna/descent-of-fangs-ulfruns-endurance-ability-based-dps-nuke-voruna/

For ulfrun if u want to use 4

[dense smelt]

Oooohhhh

[latent adder]

Otherwise just swap out augment for more range if not using 4

[dense smelt]

Her fourth is so fun to use, thank you

[latent adder]

Sub roar for example

[gleaming vapor]

do you just have all of these on standby

[latent adder]

I just go to overframe

[gleaming vapor]

fair

[half cedar]

Is Roar still good for Mesa? I subsumed it to her 1 since I don't really have much use for her 1 so far

Plus with Rolling Guard + Equilibrium, I don't feel like I need to use Nourish (also using Zenurik btw)

[gleaming vapor]

no

tbh it was never "good"

[half cedar]

Awwww

[gleaming vapor]

its like alright at best

[twin pine]

nourish its probs the best for mesa

[mighty flare]

roar will always be "okay", nourish just has lots of utility
also zen doesnt work for channeled abilities iirc

[gleaming vapor]

ranking goes like
nourish >>> brightbonnet > pull/roar/anything else tbh

[half cedar]

I mostly use Mesa's Waltz so I only need a few seconds

Plus I use Zenurik in case the squad doesn't have one

But still, good point to make

[half cedar]

Eclipse in the same category as Roar I assume?

[gleaming vapor]

i mean you should never be outside of 4 long enough for wellspring to do anything useful

[gleaming vapor]

yep

[half cedar]

Man I guess I gotta farm Grendel too

[gleaming vapor]

nourish is like top 3 subsumes in the game

should get it anyway, even for not mesa

[half cedar]

Grendel still hard to farm as usual no? XD

[late acorn]

are rivens worth using on the kuva sobek and what should i look for

[gleaming vapor]

it was never really hard

just annoying

[gleaming vapor]

not really unless youre doing meta arbis

in which case ms fr -h

[half cedar]

Alright alright

I remember having to buy Kullervo with plat just for Wrathful Advance XD

[gleaming vapor]

man kullervo is not taht bad

[night laurel]

kully was never really hard. just somewhat annoying

[gleaming vapor]

the only frame id say is actually worth doing that for is like citrine

[gray quarry]

Nah not really

[gleaming vapor]

and even then tahts a maybe

[night laurel]

if you could stomach mirror defense its not waterboarding-bad

[subtle solstice]

how do i increase my survivability without losing too much damage?

[half cedar]

I'm not blessed with all the time in the world guys I only get an hour or so a day HAHAHAHA

But alright, I'll try

[subtle solstice]

oh i forgot i had vigor on, gonna take that off

[subtle solstice]

okay now what

[gleaming vapor]

well drop redirection

[subtle solstice]

mhm?

[gleaming vapor]

ts is doing a whole lotta nothing

[half cedar]

You might wanna get Arcane Aegis for the shieldgating to properly kick in

[gleaming vapor]

do you want ehp tank of shield gate

[subtle solstice]

aw idk where i can get that

[subtle solstice]

ehp? What's that?

[half cedar]

Is Arcane Aegis available in the current operation? If so, you can max rank it

[gleaming vapor]

you have 95% innate dr + (potentially) adaptation

dont aegis on mesa imo

[late acorn]

what would be the best stats on a riven

[gleaming vapor]

shes already strapped for slots as is

[gleaming vapor]

like I said, ms fr -h

[half cedar]

Fair fair, I just use Rolling Guard + Equilibrium on Mesa, so no need for the shieldgate

[gleaming vapor]

if youre gonna do that, might as well just slot adaptation for teh extra dr

[subtle solstice]

soooo.... What would be the best for the exploiter orb fight? When i fought her, i kept dying and losing hp with no way to regain it. And i was overall just super squishy

[gleaming vapor]

well not using mesa would be a first

[subtle solstice]

i also didnt have the energy to use defensive abilities

[gleaming vapor]

iirc mesa cant target exploiter

[subtle solstice]

well i dont have many other frames

[gleaming vapor]

get volt

literally in the clan thing

[subtle solstice]

that's gonna be done in 3 days. I dont have 3 days

[gleaming vapor]

ez asf to get

[gleaming vapor]

what other frames do you have

[subtle solstice]

Umbra, Follie, Gyre Prime, Mirage Prime, Protea Prime, Valkyr, Ember, Voruna Prime, Excalibur, Frost

[gleaming vapor]

go mirage

[half cedar]

Yeah unfortunately Mesa does nothing to Exploiter, her Regulators can't target the boss

[subtle solstice]

isnt she even more squishy?

[gleaming vapor]

eh not really

she has a lot more slots to dedicate to survivability

since eclipse is 200% base on her

[subtle solstice]

uuuhmm...

[subtle solstice]

same issue basically

[gleaming vapor]

do you have the shield delay mods

[subtle solstice]

i mean i guess i can just take this stuff off since i'm not using my 4 during the fight

[subtle solstice]

lemmie check

[gleaming vapor]

yep

slot those 2 on

and then mirage never dies beacsue of 1 evasion + pv

drop prism guard and stretch

and put those 2

[subtle solstice]

i was just about to say i was gonna do that

okay now what

[gleaming vapor]

try and get total eclipse and put it in teh last slot

[subtle solstice]

what's the point of that?

I'm alone

[gleaming vapor]

so eclipse can affect your clones

[subtle solstice]

oooooh

[gleaming vapor]

from 1

[subtle solstice]

that's pretty insane

[gleaming vapor]

people usually run narrow minded for extra duration + even with min range, your eclipse will still affect clones

[subtle solstice]

that is, if i dont end up using only the defensive ability

[gleaming vapor]

you should be able to stay alive as long as youre not just standing still

[silk kraken]

Are bane mods a necessity for steel path?

[twilit crest]

Nah

[gleaming vapor]

not unless youre going to cap

[opal leaf]

Not really

[subtle solstice]

idk about that. The exploiter orb leads its shots, and i have no way to heal which is concerning. I'm just worried if maybe it wont be enough

[quiet laurel]

even for cap you dont need em

[gleaming vapor]

well you have a shield gate

so youre fine

[silk kraken]

Tyty

[subtle solstice]

what if i run out of energy or cant heal?

[gleaming vapor]

your shield gate has nothing to do with your energy or healing

your shield delay is down to .2 seconds

so just dont get hit for the .2 seconds after your shield gate goes down

[subtle solstice]

hmm... alright

[violet silo]

they're barely even important for level cap

[subtle solstice]

@gleaming vapor i died and lost all my revives

[twilit crest]

Ya ur bad

[subtle solstice]

i was moving and using my abilities

[subtle solstice]

i got hit like twice and died

[twilit crest]

Wait ur not bad ur frames bad

[subtle solstice]

mirage prime is bad?

[twilit crest]

Ye

Only good at trash

[subtle solstice]

he told me to go mirage prime tho

[twilit crest]

Lock in

[subtle solstice]

i dont think that'll help

i was locked in before

[gleaming vapor]

bro mirage is not bad

[twilit crest]

Good at disco parties

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[gleaming vapor]

gotta be

[subtle solstice]

maybe i had the wrong build on. Though they inflicted me with slash status which cut straight through the shield and killed me

[violet silo]

...

[twilit crest]

It’s called go revenant

[subtle solstice]

dont have him

[quiet laurel]

slash doesnt go through shield

[twilit crest]

Lock in

[quiet laurel]

but shield gate builds usually go rolling guard

[gleaming vapor]

mf named "meta" and talkin about revenant

[quiet laurel]

cause DoT status means you need to constantly refresh shield gate

[subtle solstice]

well i dunno what happened. I got hit by something, and was being damaged through the shield. My shield was up

[gleaming vapor]

revenant aint even meta tf

[subtle solstice]

yeah i suppose

[gleaming vapor]

revenant doesnt do SHIT besides not die

[quiet laurel]

likely toxin

[subtle solstice]

i wish i had more than like 200-300 hp...

[gleaming vapor]

b tier frame at best

[twilit crest]

Don’t fall for the ragebait

[violet silo]

I mean, he does, but 90% of revenant players wouldn't know that

[twilit crest]

He fell for it

[violet silo]

that might be a low estimate, actually

[twilit crest]

Gg

[quiet laurel]

I mean HP doesnt matter for shield gate builds, but shield gating takes some getting used to

[subtle solstice]

@gleaming vapor can i swap out something for vitality?

[gleaming vapor]

i guess

not that itd matter

your health is getting 1-2 shot anyway

[subtle solstice]

can i swap out total eclipse?

[quiet laurel]

💀

[subtle solstice]

wait no i need rolling guard

[violet silo]

from exploiter?

[subtle solstice]

ye

[quiet laurel]

oh this is exploiter

[subtle solstice]

yeye

[quiet laurel]

wait why are we shield gating on exploiter gang

[violet silo]

I think I know the status effect

its called "skill issue"

[subtle solstice]

i'm dying a lot. It wasnt just the exploiter though, i'm dying a lot everywhere

[twilit crest]

I think we found our problem

[subtle solstice]

It's not because i'm standing still, i'm moving around quite a bit. But the exploiter leads its shots so it's hard to get close while also dodging and throwing

i'm also playing alone so nobody can divert fire

[gleaming vapor]

your clones divert fire for you

yknow that right?

[violet silo]

exploiter does not lead its shots

[quiet laurel]

just put the vaz in the bag

[subtle solstice]

i've been running out of energy pretty often

[twilit crest]

That was tuff

[subtle solstice]

it does i swear

[gleaming vapor]

youre prolly not moving fast enough

[subtle solstice]

i'm mirage, i'm pretty dang fast

[quiet laurel]

thx I appreciate it

[gleaming vapor]

well clearly not fast enough if youre still getting hit

throw on praedos or something

[subtle solstice]

i swear to you she leads her shots

[violet silo]

im sorry but whatever 8-year old program controls exploiter is not smart enough to predict a human's movements.

[subtle solstice]

the only way i can be faster is on an arcwing and it's a pretty enclosed space. Cant circle her

[twilit crest]

Maybe get a team

[subtle solstice]

idk how to tell you this

[twilit crest]

Like a revenant on ur team

[subtle solstice]

cant, nobody i know is available

[gleaming vapor]

pubs lobbies

[twilit crest]

cooked

[subtle solstice]

tried, couldnt convince anyone

and yes i did ask politely

[gleaming vapor]

you should just be able to matchmake for exploiter specifically

[subtle solstice]

maybe i'm unlucky. I dunno

[violet silo]

they didn't put AM in there. it's just a skill issue

[gleaming vapor]

unless exploiter is different from PT

[violet silo]

needs r5 fortuna

[subtle solstice]

again, dunno what to tell you

[gleaming vapor]

well so does pt

[subtle solstice]

that's a different orb

[violet silo]

exploiter doesn't, but the exploiter heist matchmaking does

[subtle solstice]

the one i'm fighting is the secret one. The one you need thermia for

[quiet laurel]

lowkey no one is doing exploiter in the big 26

[subtle solstice]

that's profit taker you're thinking about

[quiet laurel]

so pubs wont be a solution

[violet silo]

you dont need to tell me anything, im telling you it's a skill issue

[violet silo]

nope.

[gleaming vapor]

just lock in twin

[subtle solstice]

it's not working man

[violet silo]

exploiter isn't a secret. you can start it as a heist at the briefing console.

[subtle solstice]

again, wrong orb

[violet silo]

nope.

[subtle solstice]

yep

[violet silo]

holy shit

[subtle solstice]

i'm fighting the exploiter without having to start a bounty or heist

i'm not rank 5 in solaris united

[subtle solstice]

but i'm still getting rewards from it

[subtle solstice]

yeah see? At the bottom

[brave shuttle]

can't we all be right

[subtle solstice]

Started by entering deck 12

[brave shuttle]

can't we all just get along

[mighty flare]

yes!

[violet silo]

.

[mighty flare]

no!

[brave shuttle]

you can start exploiter without r5 solaris and you can also start it at the heist area when you have r5 solaris

[subtle solstice]

i would like that

[quiet laurel]

underframe jumpscare

[violet silo]

I did say that

[brave shuttle]

i have literally no external emotes wtf

can't even drop a catswing

[violet silo]

reading comprehension is hard

not you penguin

[subtle solstice]

i'll try it again and see if i do any better

[mighty flare]

🥀

[subtle solstice]

i think i have the build i need

[brave shuttle]

🙁

[quiet laurel]

all you need are the default emotes anyway 🥵

[barren birch]

is there a way to work energy orb generation into my smeeta kavat?

[brave shuttle]

they can take away my freedom
they can take away my rights
but they cannot take away my tanabata tree

🎋

[barren birch]

or is that outside his repitoire

[quiet laurel]

🎋 > 🥀 any day

[barren birch]

I can forma more if I need to

[brave shuttle]

on god

[brave shuttle]

you already got synth deconstruct what else are you looking for

[barren birch]

m o r e o r b

[brave shuttle]

yeah gng you might wanna use a companion that's just a better user of synth descontruct

[barren birch]

but muh cat ;-;

[brave shuttle]

duplex clones don't benefit from it and lord knows smeeta not tagging that many enemies

smeeta isn't even relevant outside of affinity and some bs when you're looking for the flat cc

[gleaming vapor]

oh hi jake

[brave shuttle]

your message in endgame content brought me here i'll be placing a curse of 10000 bees upon your bloodline

[barren birch]

ok well is one of the other kavats relevant?

[quiet laurel]

and even for the CC adarza is right there

[brave shuttle]

adarza is fine

it's not really for tagging people though

[brave shuttle]

indeed

[barren birch]

ok well is one of the kavat good for energy generation I mean

I just want muh cat

[brave shuttle]

i have but a tanabata tree for you i'm afraid

[gleaming vapor]

i mean smeeta has energy charm

[quiet laurel]

panzer ig but thats an infested cat and an ugly one at that too

[gleaming vapor]

ig that counts

[barren birch]

vulpaphyla are foxes

[quiet laurel]

sry gng

didnt know its that important 🎋

[gleaming vapor]

damn my messages keep being blocked

[barren birch]

nah I know I'm being picky lol

[gleaming vapor]

hey dont insult my frickin cat liek that

gotta talk like this is the third grade daycare

[barren birch]

but yea so the tldr is no, kavat not work for energy gen?

[quiet laurel]

who says I cant insult things in the third grade daycare

[brave shuttle]

^

[gleaming vapor]

besides synth, not really

[gleaming vapor]

yea but now i have to talk like a third grader

[quiet laurel]

not really they just there for specific things or general comfort apart from energy regen

[gleaming vapor]

frickin poopy head

[brave shuttle]

mom he said a bad word

[subtle solstice]

okay idk how to say this and have you guys believe me but exploiter leads her shots 100%

[quiet laurel]

mods

[gleaming vapor]

I can almost gaurantee that she doesnt

[subtle solstice]

play it

[gleaming vapor]

gimme a sec to do taht

im going in blind

[quiet laurel]

I mean if eidolons have homing projectiles why wouldnt exploiter

[silk sphinx]

Exploiter or Profit-Taker?

[subtle solstice]

exploiter

[silk sphinx]

Because I’m almost never hit by Exploiter but I’m always hit by Profit-Taker

[brave shuttle]

didn't even know exploiter orb shot anything

too busy doing canisters

[quiet laurel]

I dont even know how the fight goes I never did it

[brave shuttle]

😭

[silk sphinx]

I do it once in a blue moon.

[quiet laurel]

aint no way I am touching fortuna content outside of PT

[brave shuttle]

fair enough

i did exploiter to get r5 little duck and that was it really

[gleaming vapor]

tbh, i genuinely dont know how ts works

[brave shuttle]

i didn't have r5 solaris united at the time so i couldn't do pt

truly a lost soul

[silk sphinx]

You need to do Exploiter for Hildryn or Baruuk.

[quiet laurel]

nah you dont

[brave shuttle]

nah i just bought them with platinum

[quiet laurel]

the humble plat in my account:

[silk sphinx]

But to even play exploiter you need to have Diluted Thermia

[brave shuttle]

i really only rushed little duck because the day i started i saw someone shoot a 7xx amp and then i thought amp was good for killing things just in general so i was working to get one

[gleaming vapor]

ok the marker dissapered where do i go

[brave shuttle]

i guess phahd is okay for killing trash but i didn't even know about phahd so i was genuinely shooting a 777 at random trash 😭

[quiet laurel]

huge tech

[brave shuttle]

it was certainly an interesting time

[gleaming vapor]

oh theres exploiter

[quiet laurel]

I still have 177 amp as my general amp cause cba to make a new amp

has worked for a good amount of cascade runs lmao

[brave shuttle]

i be using 547 because i'm lame

[solar reef]

ive been using 177 for years fore eidos and at level cap

just made 547 recently

[quiet laurel]

shooting propa when thrax transforms to ghost is really tuff ngl

[solar reef]

i’ll probably swap to 147

[quiet laurel]

feels like eidos all over again

[solar reef]

i much prefer the 1XX

[brave shuttle]

😭 might give people ptsd

[quiet laurel]

1xx got much more comfortable since amp mods

[solar reef]

im just so used to it

the burst feels weird

[brave shuttle]

5xx is used over 1xx by most because 1xx hitreg as client just sucks

but 1xx can be easier one shot thresholds a good amount of the time

[solar reef]

i mean ive never had problems with it

[quiet laurel]

people be hearing the propa sound and try to look for synovia in cascade 🎋

[brave shuttle]

they're just gonna start tweaking

start dropping energy pads and ponder

[solar reef]

i forget how convenient ascension is for leveling

[gleaming vapor]

ok hol up lemme youtube ts rq

i have no idea how this fight works

[quiet laurel]

and the OGs hump the air in void sling

[mighty flare]

you stop it from cooling by killing babies then rip shit out of it

[solar reef]

the last little phase of it alone gets a weapon to level 20

if only the new content wasnt just old content brough to the event

[gleaming vapor]

also ima switch to like boar incarnoff

i dont have any diluted thermia ig i cant do that

anyways, from what I saw, she didnt lead her shots

she just shoots kinda fast ig during underground phase

[subtle solstice]

finally did it with 1 revive left. Idk why i keep struggling with her lately. I used to be able to beat her just fine but it's just been so hard lately

maybe the first time alone was beginner's luck

i still gotta do that fight 1 more time though

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/rebecca-ford-warframe-sirocco-gif-1320413600474965226

burst is king. also Sirocco is king. coz Rebb uses it. case closed

[twilit crest]

177 is king

[inner raptor]

need halp. i need a tenacious bond sentinel weapon: which one of these has the best dps with nautilus cordon grouping to keep in mind: Vulcax, Prime Laser Rifle or Burst Laser Prime. I dont need damage cap shenanigans just something that can pew pew well

[twilit crest]

so verglas

[inner raptor]

Tenacious bond

[solar reef]

cant use verglas

[twilit crest]

so riven

[wary forge]

Laser rifles can use tenacious bond no riven

Verglas needs riven with cc

[solar reef]

you’re looking as either burst or laser
both will perform about the same

Iirc burst laser has higher sustained dps

but they should be roughly the same in practice

[spark furnace]

New here! I need suggestions on mod fusions

[solar reef]

neither will be competitive with the verglas for dps

[prisma heart]

do i have to aim for the head when using torid incarnon that have acuity or deadhead

[solar reef]

dont use acuity on torid incarnon

it doesnt have a headshot multiplier and MS is the most important stat for Beam weapons

actively crippling yourself

[old marsh]

Not for charging. Once in beam form u can use deadhead or crux or merciless. Go Multishot. Not acuity

What malz said

[wary forge]

They are ye

I would just go them for primers/util anyways

[solar reef]

the only reason

[inner raptor]

Me: Casually looking up verglas riven prices

Me after clicking sort by ascending: *Slams laptop shut

[prisma heart]

what would be the best build for torid incarnon then🥹

[solar reef]

it gets even worse when you realize how specific its rivens are/aren’t

Basically you HAVE to get a 2/-1 with cc greater than like a B+ tier

the secon stat doesnt even really matter

[wary forge]

Verglas doesn’t even need a riven for dps all riven does is just platform bond

2p 1n is like 700-800 I think tho

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/472389/torid/torid-incarnon-corrosive-blast-and-variants/

this is what 99% of the community that uses it runs on it

but yeah never ever use acuity on a beam weapon

[twilit crest]

This is why kubrows are goated

[inner raptor]

I want succ

[solar reef]

Multishot functions as a final damage multiplier for them

[wary forge]

Chesa kubrow op

[solar reef]

Acuity is just additive CC for headshots on a weapon that cant properly headshot (no multi)

[twilit crest]

whats the most similar hitscan gun that isnt incarnon to burston prime incarnon

[solar reef]

in the aspect of bullet hosery either acceltra or trumna

neither of them are comparable though performance wise

[twilit crest]

Rip i just hate how trash mobs give no charge

[solar reef]

like you gotta keep in mind the burston is like the second highest DPS ST gun in the game

[warm obsidian]

What to subsume for summoner Caliban

[twilit crest]

Ya true

[solar reef]

its pretty untouchable in its niche

[solar reef]

nourish over his 4th typically

his summons can proc viral through it and it greatly boosts his energy econ through his 1

[velvet pulsar]

Viral electric

[solar reef]

You lose the armor strip but that can be offloaded to a weapon with corro

[rancid mirage]

try angstrum incarnon preferably prisma

[twilit crest]

Did they ever nerf that weapon

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe he'll receive more augments for his summons.

Like his 1st augment was made around ortholysts.
2nd & 4th ability augments might be made around the other 2, and then finally a 3rd ability augment to make everything crazier.

[twilit crest]

Ive seen like crazy things with angstrum

[velvet pulsar]

Nope.

[solar reef]

been praying for this

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah it can one-shot attenuation bars on PlayStation.

[rancid mirage]

half charge to head and its full incarnon mag

[solar reef]

like even before the augment his ortholysts were the only ones used

now that the augments out its obly gotten worse

[twilit crest]

Ye ima try to pick that up

[old marsh]

Aeolak, Stahlta, Kuva Quartakk, etc. list is pretty long

[solar reef]

Stahlta 🤑

[rancid mirage]

funny bounce pistol

[solar reef]

God I love stahlta

stahltas easily one of my top 3 favorite primaries

[velvet pulsar]

Is trumna hitscan?

[solar reef]

its not multiCO if thats what you’re getting at

[velvet pulsar]

The og asked for hitscan weapons

[solar reef]

Its Alt Fire’s projectile is multiCO but it doesnt do enough to make it worth building for

i believe its primary fire is hitscan

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah just checked

[solar reef]

also-

[velvet pulsar]

Ah

[velvet pulsar]

Which summon mimicked his 4th ability when u use it?

[solar reef]

i dont even remember

the moment his rework dropped the realization of tile wide ortho viral priming took hold

[velvet pulsar]

If it's not ortholysts, we may get an augment for his 4th around that summon.

[velvet pulsar]

Just checked: Conculysts

Yeah his 4 can absolutely get an augment for conculysts.

I hope whatever augment he gets for his 2 isn't gonna be limited to Summulyst so it can be used as a subsume as well.

[near vortex]

cooking or nah

[mighty flare]

hotshot bad for jade, use enervate

[near vortex]

Already have enervate

[mighty flare]

yea drop hotshot

[near vortex]

only other thing I can think of slotting is Precision

or more strength ig

[mighty flare]

crepuscular or aegis work ok

[near vortex]

I'm vaz so don't need aegis

Crepuscular would be cool but I'm not invis

[mighty flare]

theres also velocity

[near vortex]

alt fire build

[mighty flare]

alt-fire doesnt break invis

[near vortex]

It doesn't?

[mighty flare]

no

[near vortex]

Guess we're Hurasing it

[velvet pulsar]

Dang weapon damage without breaking it

[mighty flare]

didnt like neg eff for alt-spamming, wouldnt slot br with streamline either

[near vortex]

also have seismic

[velvet pulsar]

Does the alt fire explosion originate from the enemy center of mass?

[near vortex]

if I swap growing power to combat discipline I can do archon int ig

[rose wedge]

if i put gladiator mods on my regular melee weapon, will my exalted melee weapon benefit from it?

[rose wedge]

from the set bonus i mean

[mighty flare]

alt-glory, slash dash, alt-lizzie, and rumbled all still dont break it iirc

[velvet pulsar]

Acid Shells chaining too

[mighty flare]

not really reasonable

[near vortex]

only thing i'm not sure about still is invis

[velvet pulsar]

Huras or Shade question?

[mighty flare]

25 + 44 > 60

[near vortex]

yeah

[mighty flare]

not anymore no

[rose wedge]

is it individual now?

[velvet pulsar]

Tennokai mods still pass on

[near vortex]

took off blind rage for auger secrets

my strength stat is kinda fake now ngl

[rose wedge]

only those tho?

[mighty flare]

exalted weapons need to have it on themselves
they still benefit from glad mods on the frames

[rose wedge]

sad

[mighty flare]

i didnt run high strength for mine either, you can always snapshot stuff too btw
whats it look like rn

[gleaming vapor]

they patched most of that btw

[gleaming vapor]

the only one that still works is the one that extends the tennokai window

[near vortex]

still not sure about crepuscular

[rose wedge]

so every set mod only work if the weapon is equipped? or only the gladiator ones specifically?

[near vortex]

panzer is very handy

[mighty flare]

duplex shade + tazicor

[near vortex]

which weapon was tazicor again

is that from Legs

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah Thursby sells it.

[near vortex]

thank you, past me

[mighty flare]

augur secrets & streamline most iffy mods here, but those slots are the flex anyway

[old marsh]

Any reason for those unranked mods? And how do u play Jade? Fly around with Ophanim eyes active and spam 1 & 2?

[near vortex]

broke

[rose wedge]

can i still benefit from the boreal set bonus on my titania polearm? or i also need to have the weapon equiped?

[old marsh]

Gotcha. And how do u play her?

[mighty flare]

i also use roar/nourish over 3, point of alt-spamming is killing enemies you won't see

[near vortex]

snapshot 3 and 4 with 2, swap 2 to the damage buff, throw 1 and detonate

[near vortex]

oooo good point

[old marsh]

Solid. Any reason for not using augment? Can clearly replace augur secrets

[velvet pulsar]

But then nourish allows blind rage

[mighty flare]

augment sucks

bad

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[velvet pulsar]

Pablo oversold it

[near vortex]

nourish opening up blind rage actually

[mighty flare]

requires dedicated build that doesnt fit with glory setup

[velvet pulsar]

Pablo said as if her jade light will be stronger than regular jade eximus

It's not.

[old marsh]

But I could finally play as an Orokin that could pulverize enemies with Jade Light 😭 /s

[mighty flare]

it does, didnt know if they wanted to run any

[mighty flare]

jade herself gets the temu version basically

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, for how many seconds

Way lower than a jade eximus

[old marsh]

Ngl, I haven’t updated my build for over a year

[near vortex]

might swap streamline to stretch if Nourish makes energy that comfortable

[rose wedge]

@mighty flare ?

[old marsh]

Jade Prime will get a buff. Trust

[velvet pulsar]

Augment buff is unlikely

[mighty flare]

would have to be on titanias exalted weapon itself

[old marsh]

If DE can make Voruna on all fours, they can do this. Just u wait

[near vortex]

do you happen to have a shade build

mine uh

[rose wedge]

so even the boreal mod doesnt work?

[velvet pulsar]

I'll believe it if Styanax's 4 gets buffed after his prime.

[old marsh]

Can even use Huras if u have that built already

[mighty flare]

yea, most set-sticking got culled

[rose wedge]

dang

[old marsh]

But no Tazicor

[near vortex]

I do have Huras but Shade will prime viral

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wwe-oh-yes-yeah-gif-7549364

[mighty flare]

that

i reccomend high eff for alt-spamming for invis setups cuz lack of consistent energy (no synth)

kubrows kinda suck at priming/tagging

[near vortex]

Nothing I could replace with synth?

[mighty flare]

aerial

but remember

shade doesnt hit anything while invis from ghost

wont proc synth

[near vortex]

Duplex bond clones won't?

traguic

[velvet pulsar]

Aerial Bond doesn't proc Synth Deconstruct?

[mighty flare]

does it deal dmg

[velvet pulsar]

If it's similar to coolant leak...

IDK

[mighty flare]

doubtful

could always try

[near vortex]

what's the tazicor build?

[topaz verge]

Do I need psf as a unairu main?

[mighty flare]

no

[mighty flare]

last slots are whatever, rad priming isnt that imporant

[velvet pulsar]

Could put armament for more MS and indirectly SC

[fierce lark]

vile/shred probably don't matter that much, sentinel is too stupid to make pt that great

potentially add vile in place of volt

[mighty flare]

@queen sandal update the mesa & excal page i saw you lurking 💢

[queen sandal]

lurking where??

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleepy-cat-sleeping-kitty-kitten-gif-18678404

[velvet pulsar]

[topaz verge]

Is dreamer's wrath a good idea?

[rancid mirage]

its up to you but usually ppl dont mod for influence on valkyr bc her status isnt too good

[old marsh]

If u plan to use, I would recommend using amalgam organ shatter

Coz after every strike u will trigger tennokai so u will be heavy attacking a lot so u wanna increase the speed

[topaz verge]

Yeah but I can get a better range on her that way, should I replace one of my mods for primed pressure point if I wanted just high damage?

[old marsh]

Also with Valkyr u can swap influence for duplicate or exposure

See whichever u like

[rancid mirage]

tbh, influence is so broken that even if you take crit melee and mod for influence you will be fine unless you take it farther than base sp

[latent adder]

Nah influence talons has highest kpm even at lvlcap

The spins hit alot

[topaz verge]

Yesterday I had an exposure build with organ shatter instead of bloody rush and primed pressure point instead of voltaic strike, I chose this build because I killed multiple eximus guys faster

[rancid mirage]

ig do influence if you want but at that point whats stopping you from js running influence glaive for farther reach and aoe

[latent adder]

Cuz its valkyr

[topaz verge]

Oh yeah ninjase told me to replace pressure point and organ shatter

Thanks man it really did work lol

[latent adder]

You probably won't be using heavy attack tennokai at all but up to u

[topaz verge]

Idk a lot about melees

[rancid mirage]

i generally assume that most lvl cap is cascade so you might want aoe range unless you gonna js kill outside of bubble

[latent adder]

Valkyr does the aoe

[topaz verge]

I mean it was an empty spot and I could get 35% more crit damage on my tennokai so why not

[latent adder]

With influence, while also one tapping thrax

[rancid mirage]

lot of times mobs get piled outside of bubble bc you kill everything w influence that comes near so

[topaz verge]

Oh btw why did u tell me to replace primed pressure point with voltaic strike?

[rancid mirage]

you need something to reach outside of bubble in aoe

[latent adder]

Huh

[rancid mirage]

but anyhow influence works for general game play so

[latent adder]

Why do u need to kill outside of the bubble

[topaz verge]

I don't play cascades a lot I can't stay for long even if my frame is capable of doing it lol

[rancid mirage]

bc they shoot at you

[latent adder]

Valkyr is basically immortal no problems

[latent adder]

Cuz her passive is 300 dmg already

[rancid mirage]

and if solely rely on talons then you can only spread infulence w melee mobs but melee mobs doesnt always pile on for you to clear the area

[latent adder]

And condition overload is probably like another 300 dmg

[wary forge]

Not to mention arcane fury or dexterity arcane

[topaz verge]

Yeah but pps is just 150% over all of that

[wary forge]

?

[latent adder]

Yeah which is very little just

[wary forge]

So then you pull to them with her first ability?

[rancid mirage]

void cascade valkyr

[latent adder]

What is 165 on top of 400

[rancid mirage]

you pull urself to them

[topaz verge]

Isn't the point of valkyr is to solely rely on talons

[latent adder]

And what is 60 on top of 90

[wary forge]

Are u saying there’s not enough enemies or something

[topaz verge]

Ah okay

[wary forge]

That’s literally the most cope thing

[rancid mirage]

in tradtional sense, yes but sometimes you gotta change based on game mode

[topaz verge]

Well I just use the burston so if I can't reach them I can just gun them down

[rancid mirage]

no, i am saying there isnt always enough melee mobs to infulence clear the area and stepping outside of bubble to kill range mob bc you didnt bring range aoe is kinda meh

[latent adder]

What bubble are u talking about...

[topaz verge]

Also my build did great with the eximus without kullervo's helminth on, he will be done in 3 days

[wary forge]

What do you mean bubble

[latent adder]

The exolizer bubble?

[rancid mirage]

yea thats method too

[rancid mirage]

yea ofc

[latent adder]

You don't need to stand inside the bubble

[rancid mirage]

you dont have to but you kinda want to right

[latent adder]

You don't even need to kill anything in cascade if you don't want to

Only thrax

[topaz verge]

The real pacifist method

[rancid mirage]

i mean ig you can take your time and go rlly slow w invis frame or something

and js target thrax only

[latent adder]

Killing enemies doesn't speed up exo clear, just prevents it going critical

[fierce lark]

for a long ass time i thought killing enemies in the bubble sped up the exo progress lol

[rancid mirage]

wait what?

i swear killing enemies inside of that yellow bubble makes it retire faster

[latent adder]

I've done runs with like 50 total kills

[latent adder]

Nope

[topaz verge]

Run baruuk with his first, mirage's helminth and adaptation for fun lol

[latent adder]

Once the exolizer is open i just ignore it and go spin around everywhere

[topaz verge]

I thought I had to kill them for it to even work lol

[fierce lark]

yeah i did too but nah

or like i knew they drained on their own but i thought feeding exos sped them up

[rancid mirage]

oh yea i didnt know its only for making it harder for thrax to take over

[topaz verge]

Is it mandatory to color valkyr like wolverine?

[rancid mirage]

ngl i color every single warframe and weapons to same color bc i often go to duviri

[topaz verge]

I hate duviri, I ran it 3 times yesterday to get kullervo and I bugged in all of them

[rancid mirage]

ig i can put different color on 2nd slot but too lazy to do all of it after i switched to same colors on 1st color slot

[topaz verge]

And it wasn't a small bug I had to leave and then rejoin and that didn't even work one time

[rancid mirage]

i dont necessarily hate it but i kinda find myself there often for stuff i need

i think i kinda wanna have every incarnon weapons so maybe thats why now that i think about it

[topaz verge]

I only use the burston

[rancid mirage]

i do curently have like 15% (my highest) usage on burston as well

this is bc it was my 1st incarnon and I had death grip on that boy during plague star

[topaz verge]

My most used primary is the orgis because I used to play it a lot until I got to sp

It didn't even scratch grinner in sp so I got the burston incarnon lol

[rancid mirage]

i am a weird case, I started as frost main so I was armor stripping from base chart to sp

now i am js lazy i js mod for crit and power through without priming or defense strip

ig i do defense strip or change to single target if something survives the crowd clearer

[hollow scarab]

what frame should i pick to make survival easy as hell?

im trying smth

[old marsh]

Octavia

[night laurel]

octavia if you wanna take a nap definitely

[hollow scarab]

got it. does anyone have an sp build for her i can steal? mine is kinda eh

[night laurel]

saryn, mirage?

[hollow scarab]

i wanna basically make it trivial cuz im tryna speedrun the boltor incarnon challenge and im lazy

[opal leaf]

CC/Nuke frames

[rancid mirage]

this

Pretty much any decently built cc/nuke frame does it but Ig laziest is prob like nokko w high dur

[fast elbow]

I don't even do duviri much but

This ain't even half

[rancid mirage]

Cyst on garuda

Nidus is ok but

[fast elbow]

I couldn't bother less with the cysts

I barely even notice it

[rancid mirage]

Nooo pop em

Also ig 25 tennocon syandana so op

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a sp zephyr build? i wanna use her for BOB but dont have a build

[rancid mirage]

I am already on bed, someone else got you

[hollow scarab]

yeah they will

ik zephyr is popular i just have never really used her

[rancid mirage]

I also never rlly did a deep dive into her kit, I js made it so it can do eta/eda

[hollow scarab]

i need to get on that

[rancid mirage]

Pretty mush js use her for grouping and survival

[hollow scarab]

im tryna use her for sp BOB and then not use her again

but ig for now i can run wukong

[rancid mirage]

theres some build that nukes w her 1 and some funny build using that 8 tornado augment but I kinda got lazy and drop the research

I was right the first time sigh

Her 1

[hollow scarab]

would yall call the tenet flux rifle similar to an assault rifle or is it a beam?

[tardy lily]

Oh damn that weapon is buns

Use tent glaxion if you want sister weapons

[cold burrow]

Standard AR. But it can use flux rifle specific mods

[lusty stump]

Did I cook, or is it burnt?

I changed intesify for augur secrets

Im thinking of changimg siphon for respite

[cold burrow]

What's the goal..

[lusty stump]

Damage, temple gives heat damage to weapons, with smite aug I get radiation damage.

I get over 300% extra radiation damage

While my allies also get these buffs

Temple caps his heat damage to 750%

[rancid mirage]

Rare instance of temple not being subsumed into nezha

[vale cosmos]

Would this be viable for sp?

[dusky bane]

why the armor mods/arcane

[vale cosmos]

Idk seems like it'd be good with what I have atm

[limpid storm]

trying to build a crit laetum this is what i have so far, any improvements?

[dusky bane]

probably don't need hornet

this is the standard crit setup

[limpid storm]

ooh okok

[queen sandal]

,man this sombra guy is awesome

[simple frost]

is 1300 base armor good on grendel

[opal leaf]

Wonder who that is

[formal tusk]

What shards to slap on sevagoth?

[opal leaf]

What I did is 2 sttength, 2 cast and 1...whatever you wants best, a durstion wouldn't hurt

[simple frost]

what shards do i put on grendel