builds-discussion

[polar knoll]

guys whats the best amp for steel path circuit?

[warm obsidian]

Does Daikyu need it's Amalgam?

[novel bear]

No
It’s really good for it though

Since you’re aiming for headshots

[queen sandal]

Hi guys please vote on my poll I make Warframe guides! ^w^ #1477886221643415747 message (you can pick multiple warframes)

[subtle solstice]

how's my build? Once i get the capacity, ima slot in galvinized aptitude for extra damage

[fierce lark]

missing vital sense

[subtle solstice]

what that do again? o3o

[fierce lark]

120% crit dmg

[subtle solstice]

anything else?

[fierce lark]

if you want gaptitude you can replace serration for it

it’ll make the primary fire vs main target a little better, but it’ll make the altfire a lot weaker

and the tiny primary fire aoe will be weaker

vile acceleration better than speed trigger if you have it

[subtle solstice]

idk if i do

corrupt mod?

[fierce lark]

ye

[subtle solstice]

i need to get my hands on it then

[queen sandal]

Sup chat

[rich glacier]

Replace radiation with magnetic mod. Add elementalist on lazt slot and replace speed trigger and serration with arcane alternaticves if possible

[subtle solstice]

but da reload speed

[rich glacier]

Reload speed doesn't affect recharge weapons

[subtle solstice]

recharge weapons? what are you talking about?

it's the trumna

[rich glacier]

Omg nvm

[subtle solstice]

?

[rich glacier]

I thought it was fulmin for some reason

[subtle solstice]

oooh

[rich glacier]

Giga blind

[subtle solstice]

its alright

[rich glacier]

Still thought most primaries follow similar build routes

[subtle solstice]

ima put on primary merciless so i can take off radiated reload

[rich glacier]

No keep deadhead

Hs multiplier

[subtle solstice]

its a bit hard to headshot with the trumna so im going without it. Im doing a non headshot reliant build, hence why im doing a bit of crit and status

[rich glacier]

Ok fair

[fierce lark]

trumna headshots aren’t hard

[subtle solstice]

it's a little tiny bit harder due to the explosion, bright effects, and large projectile

besides i already have a headshot gun so i wanna try somethin new

[rich glacier]

I can see the unwillingness to go for hs. I've been there before.

[fierce lark]

it’s hitscan, the bullet goes where you shoot it, there’s no bullet travel

[subtle solstice]

That wasnt really listed in my complaints

[rich glacier]

Ik people don't like doing many things at once

Same reason people build survivability on nokko

[fierce lark]

it’s really the only prohibitive thing from hitting heads

[rich glacier]

It sounds crazy I know but true

[subtle solstice]

look i just dont wanna do headshots for this gun

should i do this for the last slot and replace speed trigger with vile accel or nah?

[fierce lark]

no, vital sense is better than hammer shot

[subtle solstice]

i already have vital sense on there, i'm saying add this in addition

[fierce lark]

in place of what?

magnetic/rad mod? hellfire would be better

[subtle solstice]

i took out radiated reload and put in vital sense

[fierce lark]

or just magnetic

or serration + gaptitude if you wanted to use primary crux

[subtle solstice]

oh right i forgot gaptitude nvm

i'll do that one for my last slot

[fierce lark]

you can use merciless instead but stacks fall off all the time, deadhead is better because you only need 3 stacks and they stay up for 20 seconds rather than 4

[rich glacier]

They go down 1 by 1 too so really hard to lose it

[fierce lark]

on top of headshots doing like 6x more damage

[subtle solstice]

like i said ima just avoid doing headshots for now

[night laurel]

if you aim in the general direction of the head you will eventually, quickly, max out the deadhead stacks

[subtle solstice]

if i want a headshot gun then i'll use the burston but the trumna shoots explosive bolts and i wanna take advanage of that

[fierce lark]

in what way, exactly ?

[subtle solstice]

mainly to deal with crowds i suppose

[rich glacier]

Do explosions hit head by default? My strun incarnon procs arcane rage even when explosion is far from target.

[fierce lark]

trumna primary fire aoe isn’t a big enough radius to be functionally used for aoe

[fierce lark]

they can but they usually don’t have weak point multipliers tmk

[subtle solstice]

it makes it a little easier to saturate a group of targets though, without much need for precise aim. Plus the alt fire does pretty good AOE

[fierce lark]

the altfire is great for aoe sure

but 1.6m radius isn’t enough to functionally be used as crowd control

electricity status effect has 2x the radius of that by itself

[rich glacier]

I will test strun hs. My wisp vid will crunble if hs doesn't get the hs dmg

[fierce lark]

hildryn’s balefire is 100% radial damage and they can proc arcane precision

so im pretty certain all aoes can hit body parts

[rich glacier]

So maybe it depends on weapon as strun procs rage even blind

[fierce lark]

they just usually don’t have multipliers

[subtle solstice]

look to me the radius helps even if it's small

[keen sand]

im out of formas, is dis good enough?

[opal leaf]

What are you aiming for?

[keen sand]

general gameplay, using neutralizer

[opal leaf]

I assume you have Purple Shards

[rich glacier]

Drop the sniper and embrace grakata

[opal leaf]

For equi

[keen sand]

yeah and prolly 2 yellow for parkour

[opal leaf]

Cause primed Redirection... Isn't really doing much here

[keen sand]

then i can swap armoured agility for that

[fierce lark]

concentration good

cyte wants giga duration

[opal leaf]

Yee

Drop rush and Redirection for more Durations

[fierce lark]

brain off evasion

[rich glacier]

Replace blind with transient and rush with cat shields. Cyte09 needs to shield gate spam with 2 to survive

I even use nokko's subsume

[keen sand]

why shield gate when you are invis?

[rich glacier]

Aoe

[opal leaf]

No

He needs durstion, so why Transient

And why Shield gate when you can invis

[rich glacier]

Eximus bs

[opal leaf]

It can be countered easily tbh

[subtle solstice]

i forgot about those mods

[fierce lark]

sometimes evade falls off, and when it does it has a cooldown

if you don’t have backup survivability you go splat

plus resupply is one of the best shieldgate abilities in the game

[atomic moth]

Just vaz it

[opal leaf]

Damn 3 corrupted mods

Remove narrow minded

Thing is idk what to put it in there bc you have a different polarity than mine

[atomic moth]

Why are we playing range on cyte anyway

[keen sand]

is range not good?

[rich glacier]

It is needed but not much

[atomic moth]

It's not needed at all

[fierce lark]

some range is good, but you don’t need more than ~175

[opal leaf]

He doesnt really need it that much

[rich glacier]

Nerfs his 1

You lose acuity hs multiplier

[atomic moth]

Doesn't matter

[fierce lark]

stretch or stretch+reach, makes his head beacons ping further

[atomic moth]

Useless anyway

[rich glacier]

It's literally acuity mod

Without the ms lock

[opal leaf]

The ricochet on his 4 scales from range

That + evade = makes invis infinite

[warm obsidian]

Does multi shot even work for bows ::

[opal leaf]

Yes, but not on Daikyu

[atomic moth]

And? Acuity that needs to be activated by stationary object

[opal leaf]

We go Acuity on Daikyu hahaba

[opal leaf]

Wdym stationary

[rich glacier]

You miss out seek% x1.5 base hs multiplier

[atomic moth]

The only thing we care is inf pt

🚮

[opal leaf]

His 1 literally helps with Weakpoints and such

That's the whole point of Cyte

[atomic moth]

I guess you didn't see the real point of cyte

[rich glacier]

I have 70% range and 1 is 50 sth meters which is fair

[fierce lark]

the wall pt is the main benefit of pylons

[opal leaf]

Enlighten me

[fierce lark]

the “point” of cyte is shoot heads

[atomic moth]

You kill everything even before your 1 scans anything

[novel bear]

The real point of cyte is sobek
Any frame that can’t sobek is worthless
Any frame that can sobek should only ever sobek

[fierce lark]

hmmm

[rich glacier]

Fair only if you use zarr cyte

[opal leaf]

Dumbass

And do you think that happen 100% of the time?

As I said. For neutrilizer, you need his 1... That scan takes less than a second

I'll repeat what Saryn said

"The point of Cyte is shooting weakpoints"

[fierce lark]

your 1 scanning things lets you kill things before you would normally be able to by giving you pt through walls

yes it is a stationary buff, its only real practical use is defense objectives or lazy survival

or other lazy endurance things

but y’know people like to be lazy

you must construct additional pylons

[mighty flare]

headshot bonus + body pt only works on enemies scanned by 1, so stationary buff
the inf terrrain pt works anywhere, just need 1 seeker up

[velvet pulsar]

What if scanning isn't required in case of aim assist?

Coz punch through allows aim assist to lock on to enemies through walls even if u cannot see them

[fierce lark]

i have no idea how aim assist works with pylons

[rich glacier]

You miss out base hs multiplier without the scan

[fierce lark]

but if simply having one active anywhere gives you terrain PT everywhere then that’s absurd

if you’re playing neutralizer then the multipliers don’t matter anyways, neutralizer will splatter anything it hits

[opal leaf]

That's one thing... I never thought on being Stationary hahaha, I move every shot

But I guess that make sense in that situation

[velvet pulsar]

1 only provides infinite value to 4 rather than other weapons when pylons are concerned, so it's not that big deal for pylon hunting

[warm obsidian]

What element do I go for?

[opal leaf]

People would go gas on Daikyu or Electric

Either way, both can be good

[warm obsidian]

So just straight up electric?

[velvet pulsar]

I even told this to the wiki peeps to edit that it's not really infinite for other weapons as per pylon testing, but they said "technically..."

[fierce lark]

also secondary kinship has a funny interaction with topaz shards where it’s multiplying with them instead of stacking additively

[opal leaf]

You can if you want

[warm obsidian]

So...
Galv Aptitude
Elementalist
Electric

?

[rich glacier]

Thwhy not just edit the wiki yourself? I added the base hs multiplier note just fine.

[opal leaf]

Yeah sure

But others might have a good alternative so imo, you can do that

[velvet pulsar]

I did add on the Neutralizer synergy page.

In the Tips section

[velvet pulsar]

Unless u haven't subsumed on 4

[mighty flare]

not that important, even a half-decent Neutralizer is gonna do fine

[velvet pulsar]

Without pylons concerned, I'm always gonna use Toxocyst rather than Neutralizer

[rich glacier]

I don't even know what the sniper does other than the chain damage. I have a hate relationship with snipers ever since cod

[fierce lark]

i mean yeah neutralizer kinda sucks as a general use weapon, it suffers the usual sniper problems, slow clunky 1 shot at a time in a horde shooter

[velvet pulsar]

So firstly, that sniper and Seek has a hidden synergy which allows it to gain literally infinite terrain punch through irrespective of modded range, which means even on negative range, that sniper will shoot through any number of obstacles when 1 is active.

[fierce lark]

but it's there if people want to use it

[velvet pulsar]

Seek doesn't have this synergy with any other sniper or even pistols I tested.

[mighty flare]

sobek tested?

[rich glacier]

The low range seek argument isn't punch through but the scan

[sonic folio]

Bigos binted?

[velvet pulsar]

From what I've seen, only 1+4 combo can allow him to hit pylon from outside shield
https://youtu.be/6rqX0gb9Fz4?si=i4j_TLbufFVUcYij

I've tested other weapons like snipers (Sporothrix), pinpoint weapons like tenet plinx both firing modes.

[mighty flare]

i did not mean pylons

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, coz I mean pylons.

[velvet pulsar]

This whole thing is noticed via pylon testing

Which confirms that if u wanna hit through the shield, u gotta have infinite terrain punch through.

Not even 30m punch through on a regular weapon will allow it to hit through it.

[rich glacier]

By shield do you mean nullifier shield?

[velvet pulsar]

Pylon

Grofit Maker Pylon

[rich glacier]

Oh

[velvet pulsar]

For which people generally use zenith semi auto mode, fluctus, kuva ogris

[rich glacier]

I'll keep that in mind if I do profit taker again

[velvet pulsar]

Cyte can use his 1+4.
Which means he has covered all elements on his 2 against Grofit Maker, and the infinite terrain punch through on his 1+4 against pylons to do the entire boss fight from a distance like Little Duck canonically does.

What's left is IPS damage prominence, which he can cover by any other weapon easily.

[polar knoll]

I am kinda lost i tried to look up some boar incarnon build but they're not using any galvanized savvy for this weapon

[fierce lark]

because galvanized savvy doesn’t multiply the base damage gained from the 2nd evolution

most incarnons don’t run galvanized damage mod as a result

[velvet pulsar]

I'd like to see a sunika kubrow build.

[urban bridge]

So I'm playing as Styanax and I'm wondering why there are two critical damage multipliers. Are they each active depending on the situation?

Nvm, I realized I have a purple archon shard

[velvet pulsar]

Tenacious Bond

Atleast for half of that condition

[urban bridge]

I actually don't have that one

[velvet pulsar]

Then maybe it is prematurely adding Tharros Lethality

[urban bridge]

I'm dumb. I have a purple archon shard

[inner raptor]

syam stance?

[inner raptor]

make sure you have MORE THAN 500 energy. even 501 would do

[limpid loom]

For a maxed Arcane Blessing, does the 50x mean the max health is multiplied by 50 or a maximum of 50 health orbs worth of max health (50x24) is applied to my max health

[versed harbor]

50x24 ye u get +1200 hp

[velvet pulsar]

50×24

[limpid loom]

Thanks

I have this to try and maximise Danse Macabre on my Revenant Prime, will likely swap Dreamer’s Bond for a Physique when I get my hands on an omni forma. Is it any good?

[opal leaf]

Nah, swap Dreamers Bond into Corrosive Projection (as it's the general better aura in the game. Others are specific one)

Cause you don't need Physique. Rev is already immortal

Don't need any of those shield and health thingy because Rev is already immortal

For Dance Macabre, you need range and strength, and a bit of duration

[limpid loom]

Mostly trying to increase health to get the 72%, with this loadout I get 54%

Will probably try and get other strength ones

[opal leaf]

His 1 2 and 3 are scaled to sttength

Please tell me you have Molt Augmented

Cause Belicose only benefit to Health Tankers with HIGH health

[limpid loom]

I do Yh

Still have to max it tho

[opal leaf]

Replace Belicose and Blessings with Molt Augmented and Arcane Concentration

Since you're DOING and focusing his 4

Utilize durstion for him

[limpid loom]

Thanks for the advice

[opal leaf]

I'll repeat so that you can focus on this and not, explode yourself from building him

Revenant wants strength. The rest of his skills scale with Strength. His 4 focused on Range and Duration

And yw for it

I may hate Rev but he I still my immortal frame

[old marsh]

No. He is the dancing frame

https://tenor.com/view/danse-macabre-kill-them-all-spinning-laser-the-returned-the-condemned-gif-14456393

[opal leaf]

Nah.

May I correct you by saying "Disco Frame"?

[restive lava]

Feel like on something with like. "Don't use blue shards". It, don't help me figure out what to put instead on Nyx, Nidus and Ivara. Because they don't really kill with any specific element damage unless you count like, Nyx's mind control or Nidus' maggots doing blast damage. So can't go that direction.

[opal leaf]

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-allow-it-ken-jeong-korean-mexican-hat-gif-5187167

[opal leaf]

I have like... Wait

What is the real problem herep

[old marsh]

I have a hard time understanding the English here

[opal leaf]

I got it a bit ... But lost

[restive lava]

Was trying to see if there's any way to fix these three frames as with Nyx my survivability kinda sucked, Nidus kept running out of energy before i can get stacks and Ivara, just survivability again and tbh the survivability is just, against acolytes or something.

And someone said to remove the blue shards I had.

[opal leaf]

What are your blue shards?

[opal leaf]

How are you having a hard time on invis on Ivara.....?

[old marsh]

No point. I already answered this before. probably ignored my answer

[restive lava]

Ivara is basically dead versus an Acolyte.

[tardy lily]

Huh you know nyx can STEAL ARMOR N OVER GUARD

[opal leaf]

H-how....?

[tardy lily]

Bro post your builds real quick

[opal leaf]

Like..... Lokis invis is worse than Ivara but I'm not having a hard time with it...

[restive lava]

I'm sorry, how is it a question of Ivara is dead when acolytes appear? She's squishy af.

Invisibility don't save you from an enemy that can somehow attack you anyways despite clearly nothing else not knowing you're there.

[tardy lily]

No frame is squishy only bad modding

[tardy lily]

Your weapons MAKE NOISE if your gonna do a invis play style get the quite mod for your guns

[restive lava]

I did.

[opal leaf]

??? That's violence I'm fighting... He cannot cancel my abilities bc im invisible

[restive lava]

He always turns my stuff off.

[opal leaf]

Have you check my vid?

[tardy lily]

Yeah Pablo really had fun creating her 😂😂

[real viper]

Anyone that can help me with my wukong frame? I’m mr5 and barely doing any damage at all.

[tardy lily]

Share your build we can't help if we don't know what your lacking

[restive lava]

Yeah I see that. Clearly violence works differently for you mate because he immediately removes my invisibility for me every time.

[tardy lily]

Kill her before she uses that ability

[opal leaf]

Impossible hahaha

[restive lava]

Also does it like, immediately to me the moment they spawn so not much I can do about that.

[opal leaf]

It will give you a warning, they show themselves and then you can invis again

[restive lava]

Yeah sadly not really something that has worked out.

Violence seems to be way more annoying for me than everyone else it seems.

[opal leaf]

Thing is I was already invisible before he spawned

That's the trick

[restive lava]

He still does it for me. I'm not even kidding.

Don't matter if I just activated prowl, I already had it on or whatever else. He still turns it off.

[opal leaf]

Idk man... That doesn't happen to any invis frames I know

[latent adder]

U need to recast invis once after they spawn

[restive lava]

Always happens to me even when I don't use invis frames.

[opal leaf]

There you go

God of Building is here

[restive lava]

And then he turns it off again very quickly after I do that.

I'm not kidding this guy is THAT bad for me, he is determined that I don't use any of my abilities what-so-ever.

[tardy lily]

Better question is why you relying on invis for survivability

[opal leaf]

Cause it's fun, I rely on it lots of times

When I use Loki and Ash

[tardy lily]

If you lock yourself to such frames you won't experience what warframe is actually about

[restive lava]

Ivara's just one of my side frames btw that I normally use for like, spy or something.

[opal leaf]

True, that's why I changed frames

But it's fun when i use them

Bc of this occurence

[restive lava]

So has basically only been an issue because I am doing spy in like, steel path because I do almost everything in steel path these days. Then acolyte spawns and I'm dead.

[tardy lily]

Damn wish I was home would have showed you what a walking gara can do

[opal leaf]

Oh man Im excited to see that hahahaha

[restive lava]

Think with Nyx I'm mostly fine I guess I just need to find a way to actually kill 'em faster because that part might be my flaw... IDK.

[opal leaf]

See me what the Glass Maiden can do!

[tardy lily]

Depends on which aco most will fvck you up like malice n violence Titania n mesa's nemesis

[restive lava]

Weirdly feel like violence is easier for me to deal wiith when I use Mesa.

[opal leaf]

Malice and Violence is easy to counter actually

Been a while since I had a hard time with them fbh

[restive lava]

Then again guess I use Coda Torxica on Mesa so no wonder he's easier to deal with on that frame.

[tardy lily]

She makes lvl cap a literal peace of cake good cc, anything within 20meter (my range) dies,sadly she won't do the same DMG in low lvl content

[tardy lily]

I mentioned those 2 frames specifically cause if you ain't paying attention you will kill yourself or they will kill you

[tardy lily]

So you don't use her 4th 🫠

[opal leaf]

True

I like the more Shatter "aura" tjing

Tbh with you I still cannot figure out how to really nuke with her

[restive lava]

Well hard to use my 4 when violence keeps bloody turning it off.

[opal leaf]

This man has questionable tactics

[restive lava]

Keep in mind I have actually tried to use it I just need to actually get some distance from Violence before I try it.

[tardy lily]

Lots of range with dethcube making your 2 deal 2x DMG which STACKS n refreshes the more you press 4 n 1

[restive lava]

Sometimes is easier just to mow him down with something else.

[opal leaf]

Acceltra :3333

They just melt in my eyes

But suffers in like.... Lvl 700 to 1000

[tardy lily]

Acceltra been awhile since I used it , mainly cause my frames do the killing the guns are for either dexterity arcanes or amalgam saturation

[opal leaf]

Same with Nokko

I use Nokko as a Semi Caster

Works great In Lvl Cap

[tardy lily]

Great cc n DMG

[opal leaf]

Amen

[restive lava]

Guess as for shards btw. Kinda just got this right now and I already changed 'em up just trying to guess at what miiiight work but, honestly I don't even know at this point. Because as far as I can tell there's not much use for the combined shards on these three with one or two exceptions and that's it.

[opal leaf]

I don't want to leave my guns alone soo ya

[restive lava]

Unless there's something I'm missing.

[opal leaf]

Builds... Not just Shards

We need to see the builds

[restive lava]

Alright.

[opal leaf]

Shards are just "add ons" to make the performance better

[restive lava]

Guess, one thing to keep in mind btw with Nyx I don't like relying on absorb for survivability so if anyone comments on why I don't have like, assimilate. That's kinda why.

[tardy lily]

69 yellow shards crazy am jealous ,either you don't make many builds or you don't know how good casting speed n parkour velocity are

[opal leaf]

Dead ass be suffering on his own build

[restive lava]

Did go through the effort of altering a few things with these builds though, especially for Nyx which kinda just lead to me giving her more shields.

[alpine skiff]

Follie is unironically one of the bets cc frames weve gotten in a while

[opal leaf]

She has a lot of options that's why

[tardy lily]

Sadly no she isn't she trys but no

[alpine skiff]

And those options work on everything, literally anything

[alpine skiff]

She is

[restive lava]

Mean thing is I got like, 5 frames I play regularly and I don't play much else.

[alpine skiff]

I feel like a vauban on defense with her

[opal leaf]

Her health/lvl scaled CC is on par with Vauban

[restive lava]

So me having so many shards might be because of that.

[alpine skiff]

Bur i dont even have to worru about overhaurd lol

[valid plaza]

What good is the Hystrix(Prime), riven wise?

[opal leaf]

Vauban's 2 shreds overguard tbh hahaha

[alpine skiff]

True, bur having 200 range nukes to insta break overguard rocks

Throw on ophanim eyes or gloom and the cc is unmatched

[opal leaf]

It's the one thing that makes him able to even swallow a lot of enemy bc of the combo of his weapon

[alpine skiff]

Stuffs either frozen, rad procced, or literally fighting a different defense target

[opal leaf]

His Bastille can armor strip ragdolled enemies now tho

Vauban is just the CC King of this game fr

[alpine skiff]

No need ot worry about armor when your damage scales off max hp :3

[opal leaf]

True, Both Follie's and Vauban's 2 are scaled in Level hahaah

[alpine skiff]

Cold procs are so underrated for cc

They work on acos, through overguard, necramechs etc

[opal leaf]

Your builds have a lot of problems

[latent adder]

if u just drop adaptation and primed redirection for assimilate you'll be completely immortal

exit 4 whenever you need to move around, and spam 2 to steal shields/overguard

of if you run ruvox + tons of parkour speed u can roll around in assimilate

[tardy lily]

Okay let's start with nyx my favorite
1.remove adaption, respiration and chaos spear and eclips
2.replace them with rolling guard, pacifying bolts and archon stretch
3.why adaption falls off HARD in Making frames WITH shield survive rolling guard and 1 augur mod on your pistol will keep you alive and ofc your 2nd ability too
4.your helminth best to go with breach surge cause it will work great with your 3rd ability you won't need eclips cause your passive needs your 3rd ability to have ALOT of range more DMG

[restive lava]

I feel like assimilate's kinda flawed though.

[latent adder]

why

just cuz of mobility?

[opal leaf]

How?

[tardy lily]

Read your nyx's passive real quick

[restive lava]

Yeah she gives crit for inflicting enemies with radiation.

[tardy lily]

Plus I forgot the name but the new pistol arcane makes her 3rd MORE BROKEN with any pistols

[latent adder]

assimilate lets her nuke

[restive lava]

My problem is with the idea of relying on assimilate for survival.

[latent adder]

biggest nuke in the game but takes while to stack

[opal leaf]

Bc... That's the point of Nyx

What else you want her to do? Shield gate? Health Tank?

[restive lava]

But it could just, be turned off very easily if you aren't careful by enemies.

[crimson cedar]

4.your helminth best to go with breach surge cause it will work great with your 3rd ability
absolutely, btw you can make Bsurge sparkles AOE when generated with a secondary weapon with Irradiate arcane on it

[tardy lily]

Survival brother your either going to be making enemies shoot themselves, taking their overgaurd and blinding them

[opal leaf]

That's the most stupid thing I heard rn... I'm sorry but... Bro...

[tardy lily]

Yes that's the name of the arcane I was looking for irridiate op on nyx

[restive lava]

Might also be because I used to rely on it once and I hated it.

[latent adder]

what how

u mean nullifiers and violence?

[restive lava]

Yep.

[opal leaf]

It's like saying "a gun shoots, I but i don't want rely on shooting to make the gun shoot"

[restive lava]

And surprisingly those two show up more often than you might think.

[tardy lily]

Nullis n violence won't do shii if you have a miter n something like a furis incarnon

[latent adder]

ok so kill them and turn it back on?

[crimson cedar]

Bsurge is so broken (no in THAT way) to make misc. damage (spaghetti code, yummy), and broke the game with weapons arcanes & other passives 😄

[opal leaf]

Or Acceltra :333333

[restive lava]

Mean I don't mind the idea of using assimilate, I just don't like using it for survival is my issue.

[latent adder]

yeah u dont have to stay in it 100%, its better to turn it on and off

[opal leaf]

Like as Ninjase said... Kill them then recast....

[latent adder]

when u turn it off u get weapon buff and invulnerability

[tardy lily]

The bullets tend to bounce off nullies that spawn with a frost shield

[opal leaf]

Yeah but it depleted them easy hahaha

[latent adder]

400% damage and 6s of invulnerability

[tardy lily]

Oh btw @restive lava best to use Atleast 1 tau casting speed shards you don't want to remain in her 3rd animation too long

[restive lava]

Okay guess I can't even use the augment because somehow I don't have it anymore.

IDK where it went but I could've sworn I had it... and now it's gone.

[tardy lily]

You sold it hahah

[restive lava]

If I did I don't remember doing it in the slightest.

[unborn robin]

hii, does the torid works on nekros with the amalgam ripkas?

[opal leaf]

Violence stole it trust

[restive lava]

As far as I was concerned I just had it sitting in my mods storage.

[opal leaf]

Yes

[restive lava]

Oh that's why it's not showing up.

I forgot I replaced my 4.

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[unborn robin]

@CRWDCNTRL thanks, are there better choices?

[tardy lily]

Also now I see why you were complaining about survival n needing invis cause you don't have any survival mod in your frames except for adaption n it's in nyx who doesn't even need it

[opal leaf]

Choices offff.... What?

[unborn robin]

instead of torid

[opal leaf]

Rifles for Nekros?

[unborn robin]

yeah

[opal leaf]

I use Trumna and Acceltra... Idk much else

[latent adder]

not really

[unborn robin]

fair enough, ty

[tardy lily]

If your using nekros get miter why cause it will trigger the gore effect thus making use of nekros's 3rd ability

[opal leaf]

Is mitter really that good???

[tardy lily]

Yeah

Destroys nullies in 1 shot

Works wonders on nekros

[unborn robin]

does it charge the shot?

[opal leaf]

The reason I use Acceltra hahaha

[restive lava]

Am starting to feel like the more focus there is on assimilate here the less likely I'm gonna use it.

[tardy lily]

Charge shot wdym but it does have an incarnon if you mean that

[unborn robin]

nahh, i have to wait for the incarnon

[restive lava]

Because it's basically like the time with my main, Valkyr. The "only way" as far as anyone was concerned was staying in her 4 the whole time.

At least that's what it feels like to me right now.

[opal leaf]

Hold on Ninjase

What's a more reliable status for Acceltra?

[restive lava]

I imagine you all probably aren't trying to come off like that it just, kinda sounds like that right now because like, good lord do you all focus so much on Assimilate.

[tardy lily]

Well yeah valkry is an angry cat that deals 9x DMG in a press of 2 buttons

[restive lava]

Completely glossed over like, shards and went straight for that.

Then also saw someone say not use Chaos and it's like... isn't that basically part of Nyx too?

[opal leaf]

It's the main reason why we have Nyx... Like... That's the main purpose of Nyx's survival

[restive lava]

Like you NEED to be using chaos?

[tardy lily]

Who said not to use chaos that's nyx's 2nd ability

Best ability

[restive lava]

Third actually.

[opal leaf]

E V E r y t H I n g...

There is a reason why her Subsume Ability is her 1, bc all 3 of the abilities can survive without her 1

[restive lava]

Unless they meant like, dropping the Chaos augment itself.

[tardy lily]

Tbh your only good subsume slot is your 4th it sucks ik there are decent build for it but too much work for something your 3rd n occucor can do

[restive lava]

But I feel like that's not a good idea either because like, Chaos is 10x more effective, with the augment isn't it?

Guess at least maybe can drop like, the adaptation as tbh didn't really feel like it was doing much.

Was fine for a while but eh...

[opal leaf]

Adaptation is useless

[restive lava]

Don't feel like I have any better options though unless I just like, do more shields or something.

Which is what I decided on doing just, do that for now.

[tardy lily]

And people ignore the shards cause they are just there to patch up something your main build lacks like casting speed, parkour velocity, strength n duration

[opal leaf]

Why?... Lots of slots wasted on unnecessary mods

[opal leaf]

That's true

[tardy lily]

Never do more shields cause in shield gating that means bad more shields = less I frames

[restive lava]

I feel like shield gating might not work for Nyx though.

There's, one ability she can spam.

Unless I give her two.

[opal leaf]

That's why the Assimilate exists.... Or her ability to steal stuff

[tardy lily]

It will work ik you probably won't need it but rolling guard is a must on her never know when that fart cloud mf sneaks up on you

[restive lava]

Aaaalright fine I'll try shield gating.

[opal leaf]

Toxin was never a problem tbh... I just kill them before they go close hahaha

[tardy lily]

Take out redirection that won't work with shield gate it will just lower your I frames

[restive lava]

Okay so something like this?

[tardy lily]

The red veil keep sending them to me

[opal leaf]

I'm lucky I guess hahaha

[tardy lily]

You don't need 2 safety nets remove catalysing shields

[restive lava]

...Okay so what do I put instead then?

[tardy lily]

Change the position of overextended n cat, remove cat put in pacifying bolts

[restive lava]

Dammit I don't have pacifying bolts.

Okay where do I get that?

[tardy lily]

It's in a sydicate idk which one specifically

[restive lava]

Hexis or Loka it seems.

Well am allied with Hexis atm but I might need to get the standing up.

Nevermind I had enough standing.

Right so, this?

[tardy lily]

Remove molt efficiency put in energize you will struggle with energy this is gonna be a caster frame,change the helminth to breach surge (wisp's helminth)

Chaos sphere is a meh since it can be replaced with blind range to make your 1,2 and helminth do what they do better

Remove mobilize since 1 yellow tau shard with parkour velocity is better or just use predos

[dusky bane]

energize over universal fallout is definitely a choice

[tardy lily]

Can be replaced with cunning drift or power drift we won't need PSF cause your 2 exists

[dusky bane]

I guess budget option

[tardy lily]

The price of that arcane is wayyy too high

But if he has it sure

[dusky bane]

130p for fallout, 90p for energize

it's not THAT big of a difference

[tardy lily]

You can get energize for 60 or 50p r5

[restive lava]

Okay gotta relevel my Nyx because I do not have the mod capacity rn.

[dusky bane]

you can also get fallout for cheaper if you're lucky in trade chat

[tardy lily]

Lucky ig but ik my luck that's why I never gamble 😭😭

Yeah keep avenger on cause spaghetti code will make it do funny wonders on your breach surge

[tardy lily]

Wait why we looking for budget bro has 800 plat 😂

[tardy lily]

Go buy arcane fallout

R5

[restive lava]

Think I got arcane fallout I just haven't used it.

[latent adder]

just viral heat really, its not a status gun

[tardy lily]

Hmmm get rid of his 3rd roar and a few green shards will do wonders on him unless you love the meme build in which case go for it

[gleaming vapor]

acceltra lowk fraudulent

just get akarius smh

[astral bane]

Which melee is better? Nikana prime or broken war?

[opal leaf]

Nah that's my survivability

I know what roar and Nokko can do

Just no

[restive lava]

Hmm.

Seems I don't have enough to fully rank this one.

[dusky bane]

R4 is probably enough

[opal leaf]

Skill issue

[restive lava]

Think that is the most I'd be able to do so if 4 is just enough then sure. Though where would it go on Nyx?

Would go it go in place of energize maybe?

Okay then.

So, now got this on Nyx.

[latent adder]

why do u have so much strength

[tardy lily]

Perfect play loop is
3 , 4 and 2

[latent adder]

2 only needs 125% str, 3 doesnt use strength, breach surge doesnt need too much either

[tardy lily]

Your 1 is when you want a slave to help you out

[opal leaf]

Will Aptitude work on Acceltra?

[latent adder]

nope its aoe

[restive lava]

Mean, did see mention of put blind rage on in place of a mod I had on already, not really anything on changing like... what maybe umbral intensify out or whatever.

[tardy lily]

You will need a gun to go with her something that can do aoe DMG

[opal leaf]

Ah

[opal leaf]

Elementalist?

[astral bane]

Am I a lame for subsume rhino just for roar? And am I also a lame for replacing sevagoth 4 with roar?

[opal leaf]

Nah

[restive lava]

Hmm. As for an aoe gun...

[astral bane]

That one laster shotgun or ignis wraith

[restive lava]

Think rn with Nyx I'm mostly using Corinth Prime.

[astral bane]

Really good imp

[restive lava]

Which isn't aoe. So guess change that then.

[carmine plume]

Any recommended archwing close ranged weapon and the MODs?

[tardy lily]

Ocucor easy to get won't need incarnon and does well as an aoe with the tenticals

[restive lava]

Don't think I have the Ocucor.

[tardy lily]

What weapons do you have

[restive lava]

Uh... that's gonna be a very long list I think.

[charred gale]

latron incarnon

[tardy lily]

Do you have boar,strun,glaxion ?

[tardy lily]

Yeah that too ig

[restive lava]

Don't have boar, got strun with an incarnon though and I got Tenet Glaxion.

[tardy lily]

Perfect get the strun incarnon

Let's build it

[restive lava]

Damn I did not finish doing the build on it yet.

Guess can show what I got for now so can change it if I need to before I do any further stuff.

Just got this atm. And the incarnon stuff I have on right now are blazing barrel, rapid reinforcement and brutal edge.

[tardy lily]

Here are a few must mods on it
Shotgun Elementst
Point black (primed if you have it )
Galvanized hell n savy
Primed ravage
Critical deceleration

[restive lava]

Wait just noticed why tf do I have acceleration there?

What was I doing with that?

[simple rivet]

is this good or should i reroll it

[tardy lily]

Primary overcharge or primary dead head
I left 2 slots open that means it's either a riven or a combo element go wild

[latent adder]

not really status focused so no point

[opal leaf]

That's where I'm confused when it comes to acceltra...

What does it really want?

[restive lava]

Hmm.... so something like this then for strun?

[vital glade]

chat how do you temple

[tardy lily]

Before you use your precious kuva do you intend to use that mod as your own or sell it and if selling is the goal, I don't think people even know what that gun is since 1.its a vaulted weapon,2.it has no incarnon,3.the rest of the rivens for it ain't being sold so well too

[tardy lily]

Shivering contagion is a no either go for more multishot or more magazines

Cold is not a good element alone

[restive lava]

Okay, put on vigilante armanents then.

[tardy lily]

Or look for a trash riven for the strun n buy it it won't be that too expensive

[simple rivet]

im not sure yet what im gonna do yet more just curious if it was worth putting on the gun or if there was a better role to go for i have the non prime version

[tardy lily]

And roll it yourself

[tardy lily]

The gun it's self is a meh it wants to be a better miter but fails 😭

[restive lava]

Guess could try seeing if I can get a cheap strun riven, though get the feeling might be easier said than done with trading sometimes.

[solar reef]

tldr; the weapon sucks, its not worth rolling and youll never be able to sell it

[simple rivet]

ok so dont waste anything got it thank you

[tardy lily]

Or just mod in magnetic or heat

[simple rivet]

thanks

[opal leaf]

Malz... Do you use Acceltra?

[restive lava]

Hmm, I do have magnetic strafe.

[solar reef]

i am super anti-acceltra

[restive lava]

And welt.

[opal leaf]

Ah damn I wanted ask smth about acceltra

[dusky bane]

based and redpilled

[solar reef]

the only answer you'll get is that its mid and its a huge noob trap

[tardy lily]

Magnetic fvck those with overgaurd n heat burns them disorienting them for a few seconds

[opal leaf]

How so? I mean I guess it won't reach level cap

Is it because it got nerfed?

[charred gale]

anyone with any sort of game knowledge knows its overrated as shit

[solar reef]

no its because its literally just not that good

[charred gale]

yep

[solar reef]

its never been that good

[dusky bane]

so about 5-10% of the community

[solar reef]

mediocre stats with ammo problems to boot

[charred gale]

yeahhhhh sounds about right, kinda depressing its that low tbh

[opal leaf]

It's... Hmmm

[solar reef]

people like it because youtuber X, Y, and Z did showcases with it and it killed at base steel path

[opal leaf]

But...

[solar reef]

new players buy into the click bait and invest in it

they claim its the best thing ever (because they are new)

[charred gale]

u see the hunkpain showcase where he takes like 10 seconds to kill a regular enemy?

in lv cap

[tardy lily]

Don't forget that YouTuber had to first prime the enemies too 😭

[opal leaf]

I never even watcH them

I just like it bc it's what I tried in Circuits

[charred gale]

bro having to prime regular enemies is depressing as shit😭

[solar reef]

how bad does a weapon have to be for hunkpain to just outright say "yeah this is ass"

[tardy lily]

Hunkpain bro never does a build where he doesn't prime enemies 😭

[solar reef]

to be fair hes playing at level cap

[charred gale]

uh he said qorvex was op when he was not even killing level cap enemies so uhhhhh i dont think he would say anything is ass

[opal leaf]

Is it really that bad?

Because it cannot compete with level cap?

[solar reef]

hes said it before

[opal leaf]

I'm starting to question what happened to Acceltra

[tardy lily]

Don't get me wrong ik priming lvl cap is good but priming base sp is not worth it 😭

[solar reef]

he exclusively builds for level cap

[charred gale]

no way

[solar reef]

nothing "happened" to it

[opal leaf]

It's just is?

[solar reef]

its just mid

[charred gale]

well not even just level cap, its just mid even in base steel path

[dusky bane]

me when companions prime

[tardy lily]

Yeah but if I see a weapon that needs another weapon just to make it good then that weapon is not for lvl cap

[opal leaf]

Oh I get it

Acceltra is reliant to be decent

[charred gale]

idk what that means😭

[solar reef]

its mediocre

[opal leaf]

It needs buffs from frames (double hits or Roar) just to be decent

[tardy lily]

Companions priming, I wouldn't know since I play haki gara 🫠

[charred gale]

oh yeah p much

[opal leaf]

Ah got it

Now I can agree why it's Mid hahahaha

[charred gale]

even then its gonna run into ammo issues

[opal leaf]

I was so ready to defend it but then when we say it's Reliant??? Yeah it's mid in the sense XDDDD

[opal leaf]

Yes this one is the main problem

OK Ill take note of it

Quoting "Decent" bc it's just as bad

[charred gale]

wouldnt recommend it but ofc if u think it looks fun or cool go for it

[solar reef]

its not "bad," its just not very good

its so unbelievably mediocre

every new player things its the holy grail

[opal leaf]

Oh I like it... Used it on level cap with Nokko and Xaku

It was able to reach levels around 700 to 1000

But in a perspective of someone who goes to lvl cap? It's not good hahaha

[solar reef]

its functionally the burston incarnon but worse in every way imaginable

[opal leaf]

I can understand why hahaha

[solar reef]

you used it in circuit
thats not the same

[opal leaf]

I can see why it's the "Best gun" for new players

[opal leaf]

Oh no, I used it in cascade fissures while solo to test it's limits

Sp

[tardy lily]

Btw enemy health is reduced while in solo

[opal leaf]

I don't go Circuits to test a gun

I go to the highest one where Im likely to fail

[opal leaf]

Would take note

[charred gale]

uhhhhh 700-1000 is kinda squishy still😭

[opal leaf]

I know, that's why I said

"In the eyes of someone who level caps, it's not good"

[charred gale]

fair fair

[solar reef]

i mean even in base steel path, level 100-200, its not that good

perform about as well as any other generic rifle

[opal leaf]

Yeah bc it's Reliant on Frames who buffs it

That's why it's not good

Other gun do it without Xaku/Cyte/Harrow Buffs or Roar

But acceltra without it? It's ass

[solar reef]

im just waiting on this guy to respond on this riven, need a high graded MD, CD, Range / -harmless for Ichor

finally found one with an acceptable - at a high grade%, with negative combo duration (i can eat that with its 3rd evo)

[restive lava]

Right so guess need to still figure out shards on Nyx.

[opal leaf]

Wait malz... For Acceltra to be good... Is it reliant on rivens too?

[charred gale]

is there a reason ur still using ichor, thought most ppl went to okina

[restive lava]

'Cause atm still just got, this.

[solar reef]

if a weapon sucks witjout a riven, it sucks with one too

also it has a terrible dispo

[opal leaf]

Fair point

[solar reef]

i like it

[restive lava]

Guessing maybe need to change the red ones?

[solar reef]

people moved away from ichor because it has problems with influence

[charred gale]

fair enough

[solar reef]

i dont use influence so its not my problem

[opal leaf]

The reason why I like it.... Bc I have the New Skin to it?

Is it valid?

[charred gale]

ic, ive always just slammed or glaived so ive never used it

[zinc oasis]

how could i improve this aside from the valence bonus?

[opal leaf]

It's just looks cool ;~;

[solar reef]

my current setup on Saryn with the riven im negotiating on plugged

[zinc oasis]

how do you check the first thing

[solar reef]

i really enjoy vortex ichor

[charred gale]

holy vortex

[tardy lily]

Remove that purple you won't need it
1 casting speed
1 parkour velocity if you don't have Prados
3 for either duration or strength take your pick

[solar reef]

this is also before molt augmented is added in

didnt feel like calculating the % for lash, augment, and nourish with that extra 60%

[restive lava]

Think I do have praedos I just don't use it on Nyx.

[tardy lily]

You don't use it you just equip it for the passive parkour velocity stat it gives you

[solar reef]

i dont know what you mean

[tardy lily]

Think he means the calculator you have

[restive lava]

Okay guess that's fair, think the only frame I really use melee the most with is Valkyr.

[solar reef]

thats just underframe

[restive lava]

And that goes without saying considering she's straight up the melee berserker cat frame.

Dammit gonna need more stela.

[tardy lily]

An angry cat tbh even I would be angry if I was cut into bits n sold off in an auction 😞

[restive lava]

Will admit can't help but think Valk was always angry but she might've gotten even angrier after Alad V.

That's pretty much what comes to mind for me is she started off angry and now she's fuming.

Which thinking about it now kinda makes me want Valk to have moments where she just pilots herself like Umbra. Just goes full blown claw mode instead because she's that mad.

[tardy lily]

At least Alad didn't force her to kill her son 😭😭

[restive lava]

And now I just reminded myself I actually made a Valkyr Umbra character.

Didn't think of her being canonical at all though I just, did it for the hell of it.

Hmm, right back on Nyx uhh... so three shards either strength or duration, can probably get that done pretty quickly just need to get more stela as I ran out of tauforged crimson shards just now...

Unless maybe I remove the shards I have on Ivara and Nidus first.

Man thinking about it my Praedos might be improperly modded or something.

[tardy lily]

Prados doesn't need to even be modded that well what we want is the passive parkour velocity but you can get away without using it n just put in the other tau yellow for casting speed

Ment Parkour velocity

[tardy lily]

Your nidus gonna need rework but me personally am waiting for the rework Pablo gives him n I start working on him till then the vault he shall remain

[zinc oasis]

can someone plz check my build😭

[restive lava]

Mean guessing in the meantime can at least change the shards.

[tardy lily]

Never bothered with ivara tbh why cause ash is waaaaaay more broken

[latent adder]

Swap semi shotgun cannonade for shotgun barrage, vendetta for crux or deadhead

[zinc oasis]

why shotgun barrage for my cannode one can’t i just swap fatal acceleration

[restive lava]

And tbh think I went with Ivara because well, to begin with she was like the best stealth frame for a while maybe and then I kinda just, stuck with it because I didn't mind that I'd be slower overall using her.

[latent adder]

Cuz u want fire rate so you can shoot faster

[restive lava]

Especially as she can just bypass lasers 'n' stuff like they're not even there.

[tardy lily]

With this you won't even need Prados, I mentioned it cause you might have never known it does that effect but if you don't have free slots in your shards use it

[wary forge]

Coda baso with cannonade I think will give you testicular cancer if you shoot it

[zinc oasis]

should i still keep it then

[tardy lily]

She is good but my ash dies DMG cap ez n I don't really want to waste more forma on the jellyfish frame

[wary forge]

Nope

Quite literally the worst mod u could ever put on it

[zinc oasis]

wait wuh i’m confused i thought it was a good mod

oh..

[wary forge]

It’s a good mod yes

[opal leaf]

Oh ur back at being Zack... How are you not primed anymore

[wary forge]

Just not on baso

[wary forge]

Greetings

[opal leaf]

Greetings for you too

[zinc oasis]

so should i replace it for firerate? i’m using wisp and already got fire rate mod so idk

[wary forge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/glorp-maragif-brick-gg5w0vsfHxrk4ctmEq

[restive lava]

Hmm. Think unless I need to remove any shards I got on rn with Ivara and Nidus I might need to farm more stela just so make another red tauforged shard.

[wary forge]

Yes

Even better that ur wisp

[zinc oasis]

yupp

[wary forge]

U want a lot of fire rate for it

Ideally barrage and reinforced bond

And or arcane tempo

[tardy lily]

Ballas touched him

[zinc oasis]

is that the companion mod?

[wary forge]

Ye

[zinc oasis]

i only got vicious, contagious, manifold and momentous

i’m using nautlis

[wary forge]

That’s ok

Nautilus can use reinforced bond with just redirection maxed rank

It has enough shields for it

[zinc oasis]

i don’t think i got reinforced

[wary forge]

It’s by no means needed but if you use nautilus a lot I would consider getting it

[zinc oasis]

can i show my verglas build too i dont feel like im doing enough damage

[wary forge]

It’s 20k fortunana standing and u gotta be rank 3

[wary forge]

Sure

[wary forge]

Take out Crit delay for a fire rate mod

And then go vigilante armaments over fire storm

[zinc oasis]

i don’t have vigilante armaments what’s it do?

[wary forge]

I would also go viral heat just more the elements around

[zinc oasis]

also don’t i need crit for the verglas?

[wary forge]

Nah Crit is only worth it if u got a riven otherwise just build if status based

[zinc oasis]

aw

[wary forge]

It does more dps if u build it like that

Also for the galvanized mods

You have to have them on your primary as well and get kills with your primary to give your sentinel the stacks basically

Or they don’t work on your sentinel

So if that’s the case just go normal split chamber an like an elemental mod over aptitude

[zinc oasis]

yeahh i’ve got them on my gun

[wary forge]

Ok nice

[dusky bane]

not a lot

[wary forge]

60% multishot

[crimson cedar]

and +5% to upgrade a crit tier ( +5%/mod from vigilante set)

you can put 4 vigilante mods on your sentinel's weapon (if it use rifle mods) to benefit the passive bonus for yourself

to a +20% chance to upgrade crit tier

[wary forge]

Don’t do that tho

I mean if you’re using it as a primer and u got extra slots I guess

[crimson cedar]

depends the sentinel/use yep

this option exist, i like it on my sweeper prime on dethcube ( energy generator ), to maximise assists with high spread + penetration

(i prefer Diriga/Nautilus for priming&nuke purpose ofc, but this one exist)

[wary forge]

ye i mean any sentinel can prime it just depends on what weapon u wanna use

dirigia just has the extra benefit of being able to use arc coil thats why everyone uses it

[inner raptor]

I use tazicor, freeze and prime everything within seconds lol

[velvet pulsar]

Does Worthy Comradery affect amp damage?

...and is there better aura mod for more amp damage than that?

[icy urchin]

how does secondary catchmoon compare to primary catchmoon? cus i like the vibe of the catchmoon but ive invested quite a lot into the primary version and it still doesnt feel great, wondering if the secondary arcanes and mods make it feel better

i currently have 6 forma on my primary catchmoon and it feels not even remotely close to being as good as my secondary sporelacer with 3 forma

[mint scarab]

hi, do i have to put secondary outburst on mesa to make it proc, or i can put it on my secondary and not the exalted weapon

[latent adder]

only on mesa

[mint scarab]

thank you, and also can i proc archon stretch using panzer vulpa with shock collar?

[icy urchin]

nvm i transmuted into a catchmoon riven and spent 70k kuva rerolling it the weapon no longer feels bad

[latent adder]

Yea i think so

[solar reef]

its odd

From what I’m aware of, it should work

but everyone i’ve met as of late says nothing happens

Wiki doesnt mention it at all

[old marsh]

it does with Venari but i havent seen it proc with others

granted Venari is part of Khora's kit

but tbh, those claw mods r pretty good. no reason not to use them

[vital glade]

anyone got a stupid fast Gauss build

[valid plaza]

Speaking of Khora, is her Hystrix any good?

Riven, prime, otherwise, whatever?

[opal leaf]

All.... Speed........ Forget everything and go for speed

[jagged quartz]

Any ash players? I need help with my ash

[old marsh]

its a gimmick pistol. probably was cool before Lavos and Cyte but now meh. i have a riven for it as well. not a fan. hoping DE adds an augment for this weapon to help it out

[lone tide]

what exactly?

[jagged quartz]

I cant squeeze enough dmg out of him and struggle with eximus units in SP

[old marsh]

share build for him and shadow blades

[violet silo]

amalgam serration, amar's anguish, rush, sprint boost, armored agility, speed drift
infested mobility subsume
innodem, I think?

[lone tide]

titania

[vital glade]

how's about precision intensify for the subsume

[lone tide]

did you mod him correctly?

[vital glade]

this is why people make fun of titania players

[violet silo]

...why?

[jagged quartz]

probably not thats why i need to tp 4 times to kill a scaldra eximus on SP

[vital glade]

because stupid

[violet silo]

uh

[vital glade]

oh wait for Gauss I forgot, I was thinking of Volt

just for capture mission clearing

[violet silo]

but volt's 4 is discharge 😭

[lone tide]

do you want to use him as a caster or gun buffer?

[vital glade]

nono this will just be for capture fissure spamming

[lone tide]

cause if youre gonna use blade storm you dont need 2 whole augments

[violet silo]

so?

[elfin sluice]

add in infested mobility there
speed + that sounds like a fun time

[violet silo]

what

[vital glade]

wdym so

[old marsh]

next question. how do YOU play Ash

[violet silo]

what does that have to do with precision intensify on volt

[jagged quartz]

Just regular ash stealth gameplay i guess

[elfin sluice]

are speed & infested mobility not stackable?

[lone tide]

dont need blade storm then

[violet silo]

they are... but we weren't really talking about that

[lone tide]

if you want to use weapons

[violet silo]

and I already gave a build for gauss

[vital glade]

wait is infested mobility not affected by precision intensify?

[elfin sluice]

on volt in particular you wouldn't want prec.intensify since his other abilities benefit from STR aplenty

[violet silo]

no it is
wait is this volt or gauss

[lone tide]

i use this for blade storm

[jagged quartz]

I use them when theres a lot of enemies or send them to attack one group while i attack another but my teleport and and shadow clones both do low dmg to eximus units in SP

[vital glade]

volt

[violet silo]

dont use precision then

cuz you need speed

[lone tide]

this for guns

[vital glade]

oh? so 30% for everything is stronger?

kk thanks

[elfin sluice]

shock trooper's & speed's values both benefit from strength, so slot umbral intensify instead of precision on him

umbral is +44%

[vital glade]

yeahh imma be honest that was slower LOL

[violet silo]

blind rage too

[vital glade]

what about transient fortitude?

[elfin sluice]

-dur on speed is annoying at times

[lone tide]

blade storm

[violet silo]

sure

[old marsh]

keep your efficiency high so u can keep spamming his 4. have high dur when u get Kullervo's subsume.

[elfin sluice]

transfort works, but wouldn't rec over umbralint or blind rage

[vital glade]

I've got all 3

this is just for a dumb volt build for capture, I don't have the prime yet so I'm just making due with what I've got

oh right I have Gauss prime

OH RIGHT, URIEL, HE'S BEEN IN THE FOUNDRY FOR ALMOST 2 WEEKS I KEEP FORGETTING

[lone tide]

uhhh what?

wym keep efficiency high

youre spamming health and energy orbs

[old marsh]

Welcome to Warframe

[lone tide]

mf i know what efficiency is

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-dog-bark-ragebait-succesful-gif-13695976480928012940

[vital glade]

I don't think that's how ragebaiting works

[lone tide]

https://klipy.com/gifs/our-brains-are-shrinking--k01KQSN1G4JZ9WGENM7E9QTTE1D

[elfin sluice]

[Any Aura] [Any Exilus - likely endurance drift or speed drift]
[Shock Trooper] [Archon Stretch] [Blind Rage] [Umbral Intensify]
[Any Augur - message for comfort, secrets for minmaxing] [Primed/Archon/Normal Continuity] [] []

[vital glade]

thanks, though I'm out of capacity for now

I think this is good enough for capture fissure spamming

267% strength

[elfin sluice]

if you favor melee, steel charge on volt for both bonus capacity & extra capacity

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[vital glade]

I should probably get to building for Gauss Prime

[quiet laurel]

Corrosive projection

Best slot most of the time

[elfin sluice]

aye

[violet silo]

@vital glade try this.

[elfin sluice]

also narrow-minded in one of the blank slots there if you aren't using discharge

[violet silo]

shade companion, amalgam serration on weapon

energy conversion is the flex slot

narrow minded is good yea

[elfin sluice]

since range is a dump stat if you don't care about capacitance

[vital glade]

who's this for? Gauss or Volt?

[elfin sluice]

volt

[violet silo]

volt

[vital glade]

neato, I'll save this for later whenever I get Volt Prime

is this for melee or something?

[elfin sluice]

melee is generally the way to go on volt if you're speedrunning since speed buffs melee ASPD and aiming at high speeds is annoying

but it works for ranged as well

[violet silo]

btw you will likely have zero control over your character in tight maps and a titania teammate will be visiting you when you're sleeping

[violet silo]

it's just speed. all speed.

[lone tide]

ocucor solves the aiming problem

[vital glade]

oh dude

[static sphinx]

Has anyone got a good and not outdated venato prime build?

[elfin sluice]

amalgam barrel diffusion advised if you want more emergency maneuver control

[vital glade]

whenever I see a titania I make sure I'm always near to give that speed boost

because I'm a jerk

[violet silo]

you won't be any better off tbh

but titania wont see a door ever again

[brittle sleet]

Doing god's work

[lone tide]

this is why his speed got nerfed for teammates

[fair kettle]

Um hii, soo uh should i pick left or right for this riven?

[elfin sluice]

less fire rate is a huge con

[lone tide]

seems like a big dps dip with that big of a firerate debuff

[vital glade]

that'd be so good if it weren't for the negative on fire rate

the struns a shotgun yeah?

[fair kettle]

Ah i see aight im choosing left then?

Yesh

[violet silo]

left

[elfin sluice]

electric also locks you in on specific builds but idk the strun in particular

left is safer

[vital glade]

do volt buffs stack

if you had multiple volts

[fair kettle]

Aight guys thx

[lone tide]

ig you can use it with cannonade but left is still better

[brittle sleet]

Electric Shield is the only stacking Volt buff

[violet silo]

no

but you dont want to, I promise

[elfin sluice]

the strongest one is the one that remains when multiple try to apply to the same person

[vital glade]

but it'd be funny

[violet silo]

this build is "cross the plains of eidolon in five seconds" not "finish a capture mission quickly"

[vital glade]

okay yeah that's fair I was crashing into a lot of stuff

so volt speed scales off strength, Gauss off sprint speed

what about titania and uriel?

[inner raptor]

roar or elec elemental armor for muscle mommy - (max str)

[elfin sluice]

could be in 0.1s if the buff receiver does a slam jump into an atomicycle mounting

since the aerial atomi-mount multiplies your speed a LOT during its animation

[violet silo]

uriel is roll speed/parkour speed

volt scales multiplicatively off of strength/sprint/movement speed

[gray quarry]

Speed!

[elfin sluice]

uriel is basically a slower titania as far as speedrunning goes, but with normal weaponry & the ability to carry mobile defense payloads while flying

[static sphinx]

Has anyone got a good and not outdated venato prime build?

[analog dome]

Has anyone a got build for nokko , follie or uriel

[elfin sluice]

[Stance] [Truth's Flame] {Melee Exposure/Influence}
[Condition Overload] [Shocking Touch / Voltaic Strike] [Blood Rush] [Weeping Wounds]
[Berserker Fury / Quickening] [Galvanized Steel] [Galvanized Elementalist] [Sentient Incision / Voltaic Strike]

[mighty flare]

there's follie examples: #1487164102379049051 message

[dusky bane]

generic influence

[analog dome]

Thanks

[elfin sluice]

^. that but with the augment over the range mod is basically what i suggested

[dusky bane]

yeah, I would NOT drop range for that

[static sphinx]

Alright thanks

Is this riven worth using instead of something?

[dusky bane]

actually yes

[static sphinx]

What's wrong with augment?

[dusky bane]

slot over attack speed mod in this pic

[dusky bane]

it's not great, especially for a melee influence build

[old marsh]

good for selling

[elfin sluice]

i'll happily buy that riven from ya if you don't want it ngl

that is a fine riven roll

[static sphinx]

Wouldn't it be better to use it instead of a race mod?

[dusky bane]

not even close

a faction mod nearly QUADRUPLES your damage

that augment would potentially harm your output

[static sphinx]

I hate faction mods, and I don't have a single primed one anyway. Anything else instead of faction mod then?

[elfin sluice]

your riven.

[static sphinx]

Also, isn't truth's flame better than discipline merit?

[dusky bane]

significantly worse

[elfin sluice]

not for consistency

if you love heavy attacking it's good, but for consistency merit is better

[dusky bane]

truth's flame doesn't work well with influence builds in general

[static sphinx]

Alright I see. So, riven instead of primed fury (I don't have it), and galvanized elementalist instead of faction mod?

[elfin sluice]

should work

[dusky bane]

sure

[static sphinx]

Alright thanks

[elfin sluice]

just a heads-up: if you don't have primary & secondary dexterity r5'd on your archgun, you'll struggle with combo duration

so you might wanna replace galv.elem with a combo dur mod if you run into that issue

[solar reef]

truths flame is explicitly better for heavy spam weapons (syam, corufell)

[dusky bane]

or just run it on guns

[solar reef]

generally dispatch overdrive is still the preferred mod

[elfin sluice]

specified archgun since that's almost entirely out of the way and almost never requires build adjustment but yeah that works too

[static sphinx]

My archgun barely has any build, I'm not rank 5 with Solaris united yet. I guess I'll use combo duration then.

[dusky bane]

you just need rank 3 with nightcap

[elfin sluice]

you need the ability to deploy the archgun for it to apply iirc

[dusky bane]

damn, right

[sinful stirrup]

making a build for Cal rn because ETA beckons
note : i have vitality on for the 1st mission of ETA, after this i'll probably swap it with something else, dunno what though

[solar reef]

vitality and energy siphon are both wastes

so is streamline

[opal leaf]

Can someone slide me a Nezha Dark Verse build?

[solar reef]

in fact streamline nerfs caliban

[sinful stirrup]

chill out bruh
Already said vitality isn't a mainstay
what else you suggest then?

[opal leaf]

Range if you like his 2

Jf not, go dura or/and strength

His 2 is a good Damage Vulnerability and CC soooo

And his 4

[sinful stirrup]

yeah i think his 2 is pretty okay

[opal leaf]

Idk which gives DV tbh

[solar reef]

range and strength are musts
continuity is all the duration he needs

[opal leaf]

All I need is a Nezha Dark Verse build

[solar reef]

Do be aware that augur/brief respite is not preferred on him

it disrupts his innate gate/i frames

[opal leaf]

Augur? You mean?

Yeah

[solar reef]

his 2

[sinful stirrup]

what's for aura you think? summoner's wrath?

[solar reef]

depends on the set up

If platforming/subsuming over his 4, corrosive projection

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah thanks for recalling

[solar reef]

if not, summoners

Should always be using ortholysts regardless

But yeah, get rid of streamline; his 1 generates energy per enemy hit at a percentage of energy spent on cast

thus better energy economy = worse energy economy

[sinful stirrup]

got it boss

[solar reef]

his 1 has both innate energy economy AND generates shields / i frames

so you gate by tapping his 1 on shield break

general rotation with him, at least with his augment, is 1(grouping), 2(Damage Vulnerability)+4(Armor stripping), then recast 3 whenever duration dumps

his 4th is generally his subsume slot since armor strip can be outsourced

he doesnt need a subsume though

arguably one of the most beginner friendly kits in the game when you break it down

[sinful stirrup]

okay I changed it a bit
the 237% duration + molt efficiency feels a bit excessive, trying to think what to swap that out with

oh yeah right i also have shards on him
2 blue armour shards just so he doesn't die to a single tick of toxin proc (hopefully)
1 tauforged purple mini-equi
2 red ability strength

[ruby wyvern]

anyone familiar with volt builds mind helping me?

[solar reef]

dont really need the equi shard
he benefits greatly from casting/parkour imo

[sinful stirrup]

oh
word, alright then

[solar reef]

the armor shards likely wont save you from anything

[sinful stirrup]

probably, just hoping ig

[solar reef]

to extend off of this
casting shards wont affect the gate of his 1, the i frame is constant

[sinful stirrup]

oh sweet

[solar reef]

it just speeds up his 2/4

[balmy zinc]

Any good xaku build?

[solar reef]

parkour shards are great for him because his 1 sends you flying into directions/places you may not want to be

making it somewhat annoying to position at times

[sinful stirrup]

rocket-propelled Cal

[solar reef]

parkour shards let you get back to where you want

also, his 1 is great mobility, but only on flat surfaces

parkour shards are super beneficial for vertical maps

such as the sub zones of hollvania (ETA)

[solar reef]

camisado is pretty immediate

good strength increase

[sinful stirrup]

oh yeah
camisado, i surely have one of those at rank 5

[solar reef]

it has its issues but its still a great arcane for him

its strength increase is used on on the next cast

[sinful stirrup]

revised the shards

[solar reef]

should be good

I run a casting, two greens, and two reds

two greens for corrosive as i subsume over his 4

[sinful stirrup]

whats the two greens?

ohhhhh

[solar reef]

in that case you really only need 1 tau green, i just use two regular greens so i can visually see what i've armor stripped

[sinful stirrup]

alright alright

[solar reef]

but if you're using his 4 corrosive shards are huge wastes

so i wouldnt recommend it

[solar reef]

i should clarify parkour shards dont affect his 1

i specifically recommend them to adjust for the positioning issues his 1 potentially creates

since they also add mobility for vertical maps you arent really losing much

[sinful stirrup]

I see
got it, thanks for the heads up

[gray quarry]

ding! Ding! Ding!

[sinful stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/ermmmm-what-the-flip-cat-what-the-cat-what-the-gif-27693367

yes?

[gray quarry]

I was making reference to another game

[sinful stirrup]

oh!
oki, carry on then

[versed harbor]

:/