builds-discussion

[dire merlin]

final build :

[timber sparrow]

no

[dire merlin]

W landorus pfp btw

[opal leaf]

Better

Tbh I don't use Incarnon mode that much hahaha

[solar reef]

then you cant use it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blast-off-launch-cat-jumping-into-camera-gif-6639037559618288527

[opal leaf]

Like when I play, 90% of the time I'm in Incarnoff mode

[dire merlin]

even if I KNOW THAT ITS META SLOP STOP REPEATING IT i just love the big ass numbers on my screen 😛

[dire merlin]

with primary acuity yes

[opal leaf]

No

[dire merlin]

charges in like 2 shots lmao

[dire merlin]

what is heavy caliber again ?

[opal leaf]

I know

I'm not just using it

[solar reef]

acuity doesnt work well with incarnon so no

[opal leaf]

Serration with - 45 accuracy

[dire merlin]

no we talking about incarnoff here

[opal leaf]

So that it'll spread

Wait let me sxatxh my current build

[solar reef]

ok but you still build multishot for when you do want to switch

[dire merlin]

depends on people playstyle, but i dont like only having 1 projectile per shot, i also dont like to focus on headshots

[opal leaf]

Here is my current build on Torid

Diabolical right?

Galv Aptitude on Torid after I told you not to use ir

Cause it's an Incarnoff build

[bitter drum]

anyone have a primary weapon that synergizes well with Zephyrs 4th ability?

[opal leaf]

Sobek for some reason, someone here tested it here

@dusky bane - the guy who tested it

[dire merlin]

ok yes was confused for a sec

[solar reef]

ocucor

[opal leaf]

As I said, I rarely use Incarnon build

[dusky bane]

sobek's like
"it works" but ehh
you need quite a few squishies in the tornado to scale the explosions off of

[opal leaf]

Oh hey, sorry for the ping, had to bring the tester for confirmation hahahah

Alright time for me to knock myself out

Gn tennos

[dire merlin]

sweet dreams

[velvet pulsar]

Cedo alt fire

[velvet pulsar]

Perhaps we aren't much far in timezones

[timber sparrow]

which one

[bitter drum]

oh lucky i just built cedo prime. sad i still need to farm credits to get past the trade tax for some of the prime mods i need 😢

[timber sparrow]

ok i have another

[velvet pulsar]

Weapon recoil isn't bad on dex sybaris, so don't get it on a riven

[timber sparrow]

these rivens r so bad

[granite ginkgo]

relax, if ur reroll isnt 255 yet, is still salvage able

[wild rune]

your recoil is perfectly fine if pulling the trigger isn't immediately disarming you and causing the weapon to fly 20m behind you

[gray quarry]

Neither hand it here

[fierce lark]

-recoil is never something you want to see on a riven lol, you're usually fine taking it as a negative

[hollow mantle]

This is a fun general build for the War

Especially on Ash

[versed harbor]

:/

[fierce lark]

crescendo lol

[gleaming vapor]

i mean crescendos good for ash

[fierce lark]

the “general build” part caught me a bit but yes

[hollow mantle]

I have never seen a more self righteous player base jesus christ

[wraith sinew]

Can someone help me decide what subsume to use for my volt arca titron slam build

Idk if I should do xatas or wrathful advance for crit or what

[fierce lark]

ro—

[wraith sinew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347606445016743956/1487843000741662912/togif-10.gif

That is fair but I want something more interesting and fun

[fierce lark]

it’s about as interesting as xata’s and wrathful, not much distinction between “thing that does more damage” other than WA making your crits a different color

you could do ophanim eyes i guess, in theory it’s more damage vs things with armor, but it still kinda just falls under “damage buff”

but hey you get some cool jadelight eyes around your frame

[fresh hollow]

guys quick question, when im invisible with voruna and i use a heavy attack does this attack go with the 1 abilitie buff? cause im not seeing the slash procs on my attacks

[weak jasper]

hey chat how do i exergis

[twilit crest]

I been in the same boat but it is what it is

[weak jasper]

wrathful is at least mobility

[wraith sinew]

Red crits make me happy

[wraith sinew]

Ooh this is true

Except I don’t want to farm another kullervo..

[twilit crest]

💀

[weak jasper]

i unfortunately had no choice

had to do it for valk and ash

[wraith sinew]

I mean I have plat

[weak jasper]

kullervo is not hard to farm tho

it's refarming him that's a bit grating for me

[twilit crest]

Ull get more cc from 3 glad mods

[weak jasper]

yes but then you'll need to use 3 glad mods

[wraith sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-stroke-reading-that's-what-she-said-gif-2753018664090879181

[twilit crest]

That’s a weak argument considering ur spending 20 strength mods on making the subsume good

[wraith sinew]

What is a glad mod

[twilit crest]

That’s why u use both

3 glad mods on ur frame +
sac

[fierce lark]

that is in fact not how cc works xd mb

but no you typically don’t want 60 different sources of cc

[twilit crest]

Um but big red number

[fierce lark]

if you’re using WA you don’t want sac steel at all

unless you’re intentionally trying to do less dmg

[twilit crest]

But red!!! ???

[wraith sinew]

Ohh gladiator set

Cough I knew that

[twilit crest]

We need something better than roar

[wraith sinew]

Okay is there anything wrong with using wrathful advance?

[twilit crest]

Most ppl think it’s rlly good but imo it’s not good for cc or mobility

[wraith sinew]

If I like seeing red crits and don’t want to change my mods

[fierce lark]

it’s great for both so idk where that thought process comes from

[twilit crest]

U get hard locked into an animation so yea that’s already bad and it gets outstated by 3 wf mods

[fierce lark]

it’s just not as good as roar for influence builds

[novel bear]

No you don’t

You’re doing it wrong

[wraith sinew]

You can just teleport with it

[fierce lark]

WA doesn’t have an animation unless it’s used on an enemy

[twilit crest]

So there’s no mobility gg

[fierce lark]

what

[twilit crest]

U get more mobility from a roll

[fierce lark]

bro it’s an instant teleport that has a pretty aggressive base range lol

[wraith sinew]

Will the status damages that spread from influence crit?

[weak jasper]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bro-just-typing-shit-1--k01KQQQHB0J682QSJ565G8GYTXF

[fierce lark]

that’s just completely and utterly false lmao

[novel bear]

Someone’s never used wrathful advance

[fierce lark]

wrathful advance is used on titania in mission speedruns

[twilit crest]

If ur on console u prob think ur moving fast

[fierce lark]

it literally is the best mobility subsume if it’s used correctly

[wraith sinew]

Titania???

[novel bear]

It’s affected by crit
But roar triple dips

[fierce lark]

yes because it’s an instant teleport with no animation or cast time lol

[wraith sinew]

But I will have lots of red numbers yes?

[novel bear]

If you have enough crit damage wrathful might be better than roar
Let me do some math

[twilit crest]

U go nowhere tht is such cap

[fierce lark]

tell me you’ve never pressed WA with more than 34% range without telling me you’ve ne—

[wraith sinew]

What do I subsume over for volt

[twilit crest]

Using ranged mods im dead

[wraith sinew]

3 or 4

[fierce lark]

4 unless you’re using capacitance to shielgate

if that’s the case then generally you go subsumeless

you can do 3 if you hate the shield

[wraith sinew]

Is it worth building off of electric shield for 2x crit dmg as a gun platform?

[fierce lark]

more damage is always cool

[novel bear]

Basically any amount of modded crit makes roar better than wrathful advance for influence

[wraith sinew]

It doesn’t seem to be affected by ability strength so is there any way to make it better

[wraith sinew]

But no red crits with roar

[novel bear]

That’s what blood rush is for

[wraith sinew]

Ohh

[fierce lark]

electric shield? other than using a gun with a lot of cc, or a lot of modded electricity, no

[chrome badge]

should i use kunai or mk1 kunai for my incarnon

i have a riv for them too

[fierce lark]

kunai

[novel bear]

Mk1 versions are always worse

[chrome badge]

sweet

[wraith sinew]

Trumna incarnon when

Turn it into a beam weapon fr

[old marsh]

😭 Kunai Prime when

[queen summit]

have acolytes changed in the way their hp scales? or something along those lines.

my torid used to be able to very quickly kill an acolyte 1-2 years ago, but now it’s practically useless

[solar reef]

they changed damage attenuation up pretty drastically at one point in the last year or so

that might be a part of it

[queen summit]

it’s really annoying. even my latron struggles

[prime scarab]

@solar reef okay maybe crit laetum is better

maybe its by a lot

shut up

[twilit crest]

Gg bud

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[restive lava]

So anyone able to help with a few builds? Got a Nyx, Ivara and Nidus one and I'm not sure what to really do about 'em... think with Nyx and Ivara I need more survivability (granted the two are fairly decent just, kinda come up short against like, Acolytes.) Nidus my problem with him just keep running out of energy before I can build stacks early on.

[prime scarab]

I still maintain non-crit laetum is super fun and has a lot of use as a daily driver secondary

but...yeah crit laetum is definitely crushing better, I'll admit when I'm wrong

I am gonna miss secondary fortifier on my follie tho

[restive lava]

This is what I got atm on these three btw.

[twilit crest]

Wait for the nidus glow up

[prime scarab]

brother remove like half those shards

[old marsh]

Nyx & Ivara u can’t die if u have decent efficiency. Nidus getting a rework so u can bench him till then
Nyx wants Assimilate augment and parkour speed (praedos or shards)
Ivara wants same parkour speed & crepuscular arcane

[prime scarab]

This man really loves his blue shards

[restive lava]

Kinda defaulted to using that for survivability tbh because I didn't know what else to do.

[old marsh]

We don’t judge. We only suggest

[restive lava]

(Think these three were pretty early on maybe.)

[prime scarab]

Shards are pretty high value slots and the 225 health you get is, frankly, a spit. You can almost always do better than health on shards

[restive lava]

As for assimilate... tbh kinda was thinking of not really using that for the survivability part because I don't really like using it.

At least the augmented version.

[prime scarab]

One really big rule to lean into for most dps builds is "they can't kill me if they're dead"

So the tiny bit of buffer 225 hp gives you could be the difference in killing them before they even get to you

Survivability is important but you can usually mod it pretty easily

I'd recommend picking up some better aura mods

Brief Respite in particular

It can help a lot in the survivability department

[twilit crest]

Can we get 3 big booms

[prime scarab]

Respite makes it into like over half the builds these days

[restive lava]

So, change the health shards then? If, so then what to?

[prime scarab]

It depends on the frame but figure out what further dmg you can eke out and put it into that. Or even duration if you need it.

225 hp is just a very very low value for the slot you're taking up to get it

The armor is probably good to come off too but thats a little less awful

[restive lava]

Hrm. Problem is I feel like... okay well. Guess damage most of the time I'm fine but then other times maybe not but think that's more with guns rather than the frame itself it's. Weird. As for duration not, sure that's an issue with any of my frames.

With my Nyx I can survive most things just, anything that's like, maybe an Acolyte or on a similar level I kinda get murdered by 'em. Ivara is a similar deal there.

[prime scarab]

Are you on steel path yet?

well nvm yeah, acolytes

[restive lava]

I am.

[frosty bone]

What are good kuva weapons in general? Not elements but actual weapons?

[prime scarab]

I would look into learning the basic kinds of survivability in SP and picking one for each frame. Health tank, shield gating, Healing, DR, Overguard tank I think are all of them

And then once you know that basic guidance you can more readily build into it for each of your frames.

Some frames have a propensity towards one thing. Inaros/Grendel with Health, Oberon with Healing, Frost with Overguard, etc.

You just need to decide how you wanna do it, rather than just tossing shards that give a bit of survivability and hope its enough.

Ivara's survivability tends to come from invisibility

[restive lava]

Yeah but acolytes kinda screw that over entirely it feels like.

[prime scarab]

Not untrue. One of the acolytes specifically will screw you over.

Gotta just bring a good gun and burn them down.

[restive lava]

Mean feel like basically all of 'em as soon as they appear I'm dead.

Not, always but it does feel like that.

As for... learning the basiscs of survivability in steel path. Where do I even, go for that?

[thorn spindle]

hm

[chrome badge]

i suggest going to the highest survival sp mission you have and kill at, see which breaks down first. Your damage or your health. If its your dmg, mod better. if its your damage, assess what killed you. Was it crowds of enemies or was it an eximus.

if its the acolyte that kills you consider reading up on them specifically on the wiki to see how to bypass them

like malice puts a mag bubble you gotta roll out of as soon as it appears or else you die from your own bullets.

[prime scarab]

Cannibalize other people's builds. Learn what people do and steal from it.

[solar reef]

just throw cata shields and an augur mod on a frame like saryn and start right in steel path survival

if you’re using a frame with built in survival/i-frame/shield gate/whatever then you’d probably want to learn on that specific frame

[ancient compass]

I’m currently mid game is this poop? If so what do I change?

[prime scarab]

Hey so...totally your game, play how you wanna play, but it is generally not my recommendation to sink 4 forma into a secondary that has a prime version available

[gleaming vapor]

do you have energized munitions/pistoleer?

[ancient compass]

I’m not going to be able to use the prime for a while since I’m only mastery rank 9 rn.

[prime scarab]

Yeah, and nothing you fight will be hard enough to require a 4 forma akarius until then

[ancient compass]

I don’t think so but can I grind for it?

[gleaming vapor]

energized munitions is a subsume from helminth and pistoleer is a arcane from arbi

[wary forge]

Do you need primed mutation for akarius

Is normal one like not good or smth

[ancient compass]

I do not have energy mutation yet sadly

[gleaming vapor]

tbf you don’t need either if you’re running EM

[wary forge]

Well yeah

[gleaming vapor]

but iirc normal is fine

[wary forge]

Ok ye

[solar reef]

spreading missinformation in build chat who up

[undone dust]

me im up

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-popcat-pop-cat-gif-1365315458051141788

[brittle iron]

i need a mag build

[mighty flare]

example https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1489188519929970838

[solar reef]

Mobile or stationary?

[brittle iron]

stationary

[solar reef]

I recommend playing around with a blood altar setup then

[brittle iron]

what about mobile?

[solar reef]

breach surge or base kit is my preference for moving around with her

Blood Altar is just there for situations like survival or cascade where you’re hanging out around one area for a minute or two, maybe even more

[fresh hollow]

is it worth using ogris kulva? just got my first kuva weapon, it has 55% toxin

[brittle iron]

are any of mags augments worth it

[mighty flare]

yes

[brittle iron]

which ones

[mighty flare]

discharge & crush

if you're learning about, mag you could take look at post i sent earlier

[solar reef]

i’d say crush is a must

hell even if it didnt armor strip, 50% casting speed is huge

[brittle iron]

mag is fun

i feel like ive been sleeping on her

[novel bear]

Magnetize is a very strong ability

[gray quarry]

It’s funny with some weapons

[solar reef]

certain weapons genuinely make her that much better

[gray quarry]

Dread incarnon/nataruk comes to mind

[fierce lark]

plasmor

[chrome badge]

khek

[gray quarry]

Vay kek

[fierce lark]

gift baskets

[mighty flare]

not great actually

[novel bear]

Those don’t work

They can only hit any particular enemy once

[gray quarry]

Damn

[novel bear]

They are good for blinding people though

[chrome badge]

felarx

[gray quarry]

Mag is funny, she turns any acolyte into a much much bigger target

[hollow mantle]

Would Status Chance be better than Crit Chance here?

[solar reef]

On a shotgun? Hell yeah

Status Chance Status Chance Status Chance 🤑

[hollow mantle]

I've been bouncing around whether I should reroll it cause the Tigris already struggles so hard

The +211% Dmg barely brings it above Lvl255

[solar reef]

i would honestly sit on it until they tell us what the incarnon does

[hollow mantle]

yeahhhhh

As it stands I get Slash procs dealing 577k-908k

[pulsar linden]

Can someone help me figure out how to make this Nataruk build even better at what it does?

[dusky bane]

put aptitude in

[pulsar linden]

Other than getting higher level/better arcanes or waiting for baro to bring me primed mods.

[prime ivy]

Any suggestions for my Vauban build? Debating Transient Fortitude in the last spot but idk

[pulsar linden]

Where though?

[dusky bane]

over thermite

[hollow mantle]

Warm Coat

[dusky bane]

just to clarify
galvanized aptitude

[pulsar linden]

Was about to ask

[dusky bane]

you're slotting it for the +damage

[prime ivy]

Ice hazard resist bro 💀 ain't no way

[dusky bane]

not the status chance, even if it's useful

[hollow mantle]

I CROSSED IT OUT IT WAS SARCASM AAA

[prime ivy]

I'm chronically offline I though /s meant sarcasm 😭

[solar reef]

Nataruk’s projectile is MultiCO;
Galvanized Apt.’s damage is multiplicative with other damage sources rather than additive, which is how it normally is

[pulsar linden]

Ooooooo

Hehehehehe

Funny big numbers

[solar reef]

So where mormally the bonuses from aptitude would be added alongside Serrations, its calculated in AFTER serration is

Resulting in funny numbers

[prime ivy]

I just don't know if +50% str from transient is worth -25% duration on Vauban. Isn't duration one of his most important stats? Like I guess I'd still have 148%

[fierce lark]

not sure how blast goes without like absolute max dmg

[pulsar linden]

And my Nautilus Prime with viral rad, plus the corrosive stacks from my Hydroid will do even funnier numbers?

[fierce lark]

if you aren't consistently 1tapping heads blast kinda sucks

[solar reef]

without xatas whisper i wouldnt even use blast

unless its innate/forced

[pulsar linden]

I'm working towards xaku

[solar reef]

swap one of your augur mods with a mod of the same stat (intensify/stretch)

[pulsar linden]

But I like my goober build

[solar reef]

you only need one augur mod to gate

[dusky bane]

right, probably shouldn't be doing blast nataruk

[solar reef]

iirc most people just use it with heat/elec dot’s

[prime ivy]

I barely know how to gate tbh, I'm an Atlas main so I usually just spam Landslide and get free I-frames

[dusky bane]

swap to like pure heat/elec or at the very least corrosive

[pulsar linden]

I run blast Nataruk for a reason.

I'll explain.

[dusky bane]

I'm already afraid

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-real-men-gif-23103482

[neon granite]

Does this include cosmetic builds?

[pulsar linden]

My Hydroid casts rain, and tentacles. My Naut Prime does silly damage with his beam weapon, and the Nataruk has infinite pierce. With Hydroid doing armour strip and applying viral procs with his rain augment the Nataruk applies blast all the way down a line, and when the enemy dies it goes kaboom killing whatever is next to it as well.

I have tried a viral Nataruk as I have a riven for it, but I didn't like it.

[dusky bane]

I had very good reasons to be afraid

[pulsar linden]

It's a goober build for a reason.

[neon granite]

Opinions? 1 or 2?, idk which one to do im really undecissive and i add my build looks so maybe yall can jugde better

I mean it is build related but just build comestic so idk if i should put it here

[pulsar linden]

Honestly, the whole reason this works is this guy

[dusky bane]

probably more of a #warframe-general or #gameplay-discussion message
I'd say #fashion-frame , but they made that channel unusable to talk about fashion, which is insane

[past bobcat]

ok so, does anyone know, in any way at all, if it is possible to make impact equal or greater than puncture on the vaykor sydon

[dusky bane]

rivens?

probably fairly easily, but why

[neon granite]

Ohh thanks, btw it wasnt on my channel list which was funny

[solar reef]

just use viral tempest

[pulsar linden]

Yeah, that's what I do.

[solar reef]

literally turns Hydroid into one of the best viral primers in the game

[pulsar linden]

I main Hydroid Prime.

[neon granite]

bruh i didnt think it was an hour of text time lol😭 😭 😭 glad i made it just choosing 1 or 2 in numbers/reactions

[pulsar linden]

I've taken this build to SP.

[solar reef]

Drop blast for either heat/elec and then use something like bladed rounds, or more preferable, and bane

[past bobcat]

because i want everything to only use one element and this is getting in the way of my support drone. basically i'm strange

[solar reef]

you can take nataruk unmodded into SP
thats not a good benchmark

[pulsar linden]

I don't wanna. I like it as a funny nuke bow.

[solar reef]

is the nuke the friends we made along the way?

😭

[pulsar linden]

I like it like this.

I know it's not optimal at all.

If I want something meta, I'll use the Okina Prime I've got the incarnon for

[subtle solstice]

is the kulstar any good? Is there a special variant of it?

[hollow mantle]

Someone hand this dude a Daikyu Prime

[static sphinx]

Is non primed shred worth using?

[dusky bane]

give this man a paris incarnon this instant

[static sphinx]

So, would hammer shot be better for tenet glaxion than shred (normal)?

[hollow mantle]

Not even Primed Shred is worth using

You gotta get a riven with +80% Fire Rate or higher /s

[subtle solstice]

anybody?

[dusky bane]

mid, no

[hollow mantle]

Mastery Fodder #1984

[subtle solstice]

what about a special variant? Or nah?

aw

[hollow mantle]

If the Kulstar got a variant weapon before the Jat Kittag I'd cry 😭

[subtle solstice]

is the velox prime good?

[dusky bane]

mid

aggressively so

[subtle solstice]

whats so mid about it?

[hollow mantle]

Mid stats, nothing notable, outperformed by literally everything.

[dusky bane]

the fact there's nothing good about it

[dusky bane]

ok, not everything, but yeah, generic single target smg

[subtle solstice]

it has high status chance

[dusky bane]

nothing of note, but nothing bad

[dusky bane]

so do 60 other secondaries

[subtle solstice]

It's not like those other secondaries are any more special though?

[hollow mantle]

Sophia you should make the Akmagnus Prime if you want a prime secondary

:)

[subtle solstice]

what about kompressa?

[dusky bane]

actually it is

[hollow mantle]

Good

[dusky bane]

kompressa's real fun

one of the highest status spewing guns in the game

[hollow mantle]

Bubble Blower's wet dream

[subtle solstice]

i like pocket shotguns

i also just like shotguns

[hollow mantle]

The humble Euphona Prime

[subtle solstice]

what about the aklex?

[hollow mantle]

Magnus > Lex
Akmagnus >>> Aklex

[subtle solstice]

akvasto?

[solar reef]

ak = mid

[hollow mantle]

Akvasto are fun for Cowboy style, I use them on Mesa sometimes, but the singular is better

[dusky bane]

90% of akimbo secondaries are pretty bad

[subtle solstice]

explain

[dusky bane]

dual toxocyst and akarius are the only notable ones

[solar reef]

they just arent great

[hollow mantle]

Akmagnus is faaaantastic

[subtle solstice]

is that because of the incarnon?

[dusky bane]

read literally the message above yours

[dusky bane]

and torxica

[solar reef]

ak cant use the incarnon

[hollow mantle]

and Akmagnus :)

[subtle solstice]

yes but why

[subtle solstice]

so i guessed that right

[dusky bane]

cause they don't do anything special

[solar reef]

regular vasto is really good at burst damage

thanks to its incarnon

[hollow mantle]

Vasto fan the hammer my beloved

[solar reef]

akvasto are just super mid

[subtle solstice]

faster fire rate and bigger mag size?

[dusky bane]

not good enough

[hollow mantle]

Not notable (Unless you use the Akmagnus)

[solar reef]

faster fire rate and bigger mag size compared to an also mid gun

[hollow mantle]

cough

[dusky bane]

regular magnus eats it alive

[hollow mantle]

Not true 😭

I use both the Akmagnus is so much better

[dusky bane]

very true

[hollow mantle]

That mod is mid

[subtle solstice]

well its a good thing i still have the akmagnus prime

[hollow mantle]

RAHHH

[solar reef]

like its not that being AK itself is bad its just that there arent any GREAT akimbo weapons individually

[subtle solstice]

only on headshot???

[hollow mantle]

You also have to constantly roll over and over and over

[dusky bane]

yes

[solar reef]

the good dual weapons all start with dual

[subtle solstice]

arent akimbos still upgrades in some cases?

[dusky bane]

so is every possible iteration of the magnus 😭

[subtle solstice]

i play mirage so that would suck

[solar reef]

upgrades to jank

[dusky bane]

none good enough to talk about

[subtle solstice]

but still an upgrade, even if minor, right?

[hearty verge]

why do some channeled abilities not work for the kunais second evo?

[dusky bane]

depends

[dusky bane]

ask the devs

[subtle solstice]

lex to aklex. Upgrade or nah?

[hollow mantle]

Akmagnus' perk about 100% ammo efficiency is procced WAY easier with the second pistol, plus the firerate is nice. You get an infinite ammo bullethose that melts Lvl9999 content if you build it right

[dusky bane]

sidegrade

[tawdry trail]

Considering Lex incarnon exists definitely nah

[subtle solstice]

the slower reload time and ess accuracy dont seem too bad. Riven disposition though... Does that make it not viable with a riven?

[dusky bane]

the reload time's notable tbh

[subtle solstice]

i can manage

[dusky bane]

turns a slow reload into an unusably slow one

[solar reef]

a bad weapon with a riven is still bad

[subtle solstice]

but would the riven be bad?

unusable?

[solar reef]

they both probably have high dispos

[subtle solstice]

isnt 3 bad?

[hollow mantle]

If only there was a system that was designed to explicitly boost bad weapons, we could name it like... "Riven Mods", that sounds like a great idea. /s

[dusky bane]

what?

[solar reef]

if only they actually made bad weapons good

[subtle solstice]

yeah that sounds like a good idea. I'll write that down

[hollow mantle]

"/s"

[subtle solstice]

3/5 dots?

[hollow mantle]

Riven mods are so buns, ugh.

[dusky bane]

dots are meaningless

[subtle solstice]

why are they there then?

[solar reef]

makes the best weapons better and the worst weapons slightly less worse

[hollow mantle]

So you can pop them like bubble wrap when you're bored modding

[mellow tartan]

Can someone send a good nidus build

[solar reef]

they dont accurately portray disposition

use the actual multiplier

[subtle solstice]

ooooh

[dusky bane]

bad way to represent the actual number behind them

[solar reef]

each "blip" has about a 0.20 diference between its minimum and maximum value

[subtle solstice]

i can stil use a "bad" or "mid" weapon on occasion, right? And i wont suffer too much?

[solar reef]

if you enjoy it and it works sure

[subtle solstice]

yay

[solar reef]

just do so knowing its not great

[hollow mantle]

90% of the weapons in this game are usable, only losers will pick you apart for using weapons they don't want you to.

This game is buns easy

[subtle solstice]

I really wanna use the twin vipers wraith all the time

[hollow mantle]

(IM KIDDING)

[solar reef]

The only players more annoying than the "everything sucks and you should only use meta" people are the "everything is op and there is no meta" people.
Use bad weapons knowing they are bad, but enjoy them regardless because thats a part of the fun

[subtle solstice]

dies

[dusky bane]

@jimi

[tawdry trail]

Bad weapons just need more buffs to function but you can definitely make most things work if you build around them

[hollow mantle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/miles-teller-movieedit-whiplash-KPuuE6fRr0GmQ

There is no meta

Game is easier than candy crush

Maybe try aiming

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-reverse-smile-ishowspeed-confused-gif-17362243368421867313

[subtle solstice]

isnt candy crush kinda hard when you get far into it?

[hollow mantle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/of-mice-and-men-EPQmeQk8O6i3e

[hollow mantle]

Discord User of infinite questions and ponderings

[subtle solstice]

dude you have no idea how many questions i can ask

i need more platinum for orokin catalysts...

and platinum for this skin cuz it's way better than the way the prime looks in my opinion

[pulsar linden]

I have one, what's it do?

[hollow mantle]

Headshot kaboom

[hollow mantle]

Punishable by death I fear

[subtle solstice]

My ancestors are smiling at me imperials. Can you say the same?

[twilit crest]

Tuff

[subtle solstice]

i like the left one more! :D

[hollow mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-roger-salas-rufus-sewell-kaleidoscope-red-gif-5229715781876338517

lol

[subtle solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[hollow mantle]

These are the builds I use. Status Burst is waaaaayyy more fun imo.

[subtle solstice]

too bad i dont have those primed mods

[hollow mantle]

🥀

[subtle solstice]

all i have is these

[hollow mantle]

You can always use the normal ones

[subtle solstice]

i suppose

if i had the capacity

if only i knew what people wanted to buy for plat

[tawdry trail]

Always a market for augment mods

[hollow mantle]

A j*b

[subtle solstice]

those took me a while to sell

[subtle solstice]

even if i had one (i've been looking EVERYWHERE) i wouldnt really spend a dime on this game for plat if i can earn it

[hollow mantle]

I think I've dropped like

6k to 8k on this game

Somewhere in that ballpark

[subtle solstice]

dollars, or platinum?

[hollow mantle]

$

[subtle solstice]

Bro...

[tawdry trail]

💀

[hollow mantle]

To be fair I've been playing since early 2014

[subtle solstice]

i think you might have a problem

[hollow mantle]

It's barely a dent

I just like supporting the game

[subtle solstice]

the most i spent on a game's microtransactions was about $100 and i got scolded for that

never did that again

[hollow mantle]

I also don't buy anything in any other games, so like, whatevs

I'll grab a bit or buy a bundle for my bf or little brother here and there

[subtle solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804899044429660193/1492852327026003968/1255588976837001458.gif

@hollow mantle how's the riven disposition on your akmagnus?

[hollow mantle]

Riven dispo isn't randomized, we have the same Dispo on both of ours

[subtle solstice]

i know, that's why i asked. Ya feel me?

[hollow mantle]

It's 3/5

[subtle solstice]

i meant like-... ah nevermind

[hollow mantle]

Idk where to find the number for the multiplier, online info is all super out of date.

[subtle solstice]

me neither tbh

[hollow mantle]

It doesn't rlly matter

Aslong as it's not under a 3, usually a riven is worth it if you really like something

Trumna Prime has a 1/5 Dispo it's super buns compared to the regular Trumna if you have a good riven.

[subtle solstice]

aaaawww... does that mean the prime is worse, or...?

[hollow mantle]

No I'm saying if you have a good enough riven, the prime variant ends up being worse despite it's upgrades

[subtle solstice]

i see

[hollow mantle]

Same riven, but the 2nd image is it on the Trumna Prime

[subtle solstice]

i mean... to me that makes it seem like the prime is worse than the og, cuz the riven makes it op

[hollow mantle]

Trumna Prime has better magazine, a faster reload, better crit damage, status chance, and more heat damage.

[subtle solstice]

is higher fire rate worth it on a high ammo economy weapon like the trumna?

[hollow mantle]

If you run out of ammo on the Trumna I salute you

I use the Trumna on Gauss, never run out of ammo

[subtle solstice]

i can hardly get through the entire magazine let alone my reserve ammo. It has so much ammo that me compulsively reloading it is actually costing me sustain

[hollow mantle]

Funny ping noise

[subtle solstice]

yeah the reload does sound nice

i wish i could change how the akmagnus fire noise sounds

[hollow mantle]

Alright buddy

[subtle solstice]

whaaat? I want it to sound like a 500 magnum

[hollow mantle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/get-a-load-of-this-guy-getaloadof-RgNh0lb2p3yoeQmG1q

[subtle solstice]

or like a star wars blaster

[hollow mantle]

Akmagnus my beautiful gorgeous beloved perfect secondary weapon

The only way they could be more perfect is if I could friendly fire with them

[subtle solstice]

and if you had an incarnon?

[hollow mantle]

I dislike incarnons

I grab incarnon upgrades for the passive stat increases, but that's about it.

[subtle solstice]

ah

[hollow mantle]

I don't think I have ever used the incarnon form on my Strun since testing it once.

[full topaz]

I’m confused by something.

A friend of mine is helping me get Mesa Prime, my beloved golden girl, ready for Steel Path.

The Aura mod in the build he recommended me is called “Combat Discipline,” and it confuses me.

To make a long story short, it drains my health every time I get a kill.

[hollow mantle]

Combat Discipline makes you take damage when you kill something.

If you have Shatter shields up as Mesa, a rank 4 Combat Discipline doesn't do enough damage and gets negated by Shatter shields.

But that nullified damage still counts as getting damaged.

So it procs Arcane Avenger

Arcane Avenger gives your Regulators even more crit

[full topaz]

Ohhhhhhh…

[hollow mantle]

Mhm

[full topaz]

I understand now.

[hollow mantle]

You want specifically a Rank 4 Combat Discipline

[full topaz]

So, the mod makes me take damage, and that damage empowers her ultimate.

[hollow mantle]

Yeah

You have Arcane Avenger on her?

Because that's why that aura mod is there

[subtle solstice]

that sounds awesome i need to get that stuff

[full topaz]

I’ll have to check my inventory to see if I have it.

[hollow mantle]

If you don't there isn't any reason to use Combat Discipline right now

[full topaz]

Wait, why rank 4 and not rank 5?

[hollow mantle]

because if it's rank 5 it does enough damage that Shattershields doesn't negate ALL of it

[full topaz]

Oh.

[hollow mantle]

Mhm

Another good arcane for Mesa is Arcane Velocity

[full topaz]

Sad news. I do not have Arcane Avenger.

[full topaz]

Oh, that also boosts her ultimate, since that counts as a pistol.

Forgive me, I have… rather basic knowledge of crafting Warframe builds.

[hollow mantle]

These are all reasonable aura mods to use on Mesa

I use Worthy Comradery cause I only do headshot stuff

[subtle solstice]

same

[hollow mantle]

But Corrosive Projection is pretty much the General use aura for her I think

[full topaz]

I have three frames I’m gonna take into Steel Path: Mesa Prime, Grendel Prime, and Wukong Prime.

[hollow mantle]

Do NOT use Pistol Amp, that +27% Pistol Damage is useless. In calculation it's like +5% damage

[twilit crest]

Tuff

[full topaz]

Mesa because she’s my golden girl, Grendel because I’ll probably need a good tank, and Wukong because he’s a good generalist.

[hollow mantle]

Mesa and Ash are literally the only frames I've used in months

[twilit crest]

Aura

Bring back old ash fr

[full topaz]

I have Ash Prime, but he’s not maxed yet.

I should probably work on that.

[hollow mantle]

This was a couple days ago

Mesa is like an actual drug

[full topaz]

…wow.

And those aren’t even Super Crits.

Oh, I recently learned about Big Crits and Super Crits.

It feels like my eyes have finally opened.

[steady bay]

How do i build the
"Omni broken Dual twin primary secondary deadhead merciless aura apoc galvark milati laith lavan zetki vidar imperator wolf rakta ceti mara vaycor ghoul arca karmine synoid secula sancti telos primed tau forged dragon Amalgam Archon Galvanized Efervon Tennet Kuva Coda Prisma excalibur Umbra Prime vandal wraith Incarnon Riven mk 3"

[steady bay]

Inaros?
Gaming

[hollow mantle]

What?

Mesa

[steady bay]

Ohh

[full topaz]

I’m confused about my Gram Prime build.

Do I go Shocking Touch for damage, or do I go Galvanized Steel for crits?

[opal leaf]

Both

[full topaz]

…I’m gonna need some forma.

[hollow mantle]

It's a hybrid weapon

Well, it can be.

[opal leaf]

It always is

[full topaz]

Okay, Forma has been secured.

This week, I’m gonna push both Mesa and Gram Prime to their limits.

Or, at least, try to.

[hollow mantle]

Oh this server and it's constant semantics

[opal leaf]

Tbh I never saw the fun on Mesa Prime

I kept trying but I just can't hahaha

[hollow mantle]

I love being out of meds so I can be violently angry over words

Mesa can be super boring I just like her flavor alot

[full topaz]

I recently picked up an Augment called “Mesa’s Waltz” that lets her move during her ultimate.

[opal leaf]

Guess it's just my preference

[full topaz]

So many things I need to get.

[hollow mantle]

That's like the best part

[twilit crest]

Ya it’s like too much

[full topaz]

The element mods for my Helminth Charger, Forma for Mesa, Grendel, Wukong, and Gram.

[opal leaf]

Do it one by one

[hollow mantle]

Some of us have nothing left to do

[full topaz]

Okay.

[opal leaf]

It won't be too much if you do it one by one

[opal leaf]

True, I'm just Aya Farming cause I have nothing else to do

[hollow mantle]

Prime part farming and then throwing all the stuff I get at my little brother

[opal leaf]

XDD

[full topaz]

It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

Right.

[opal leaf]

Yes sir

[twilit crest]

Not if u have a credit card

[hollow mantle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/money-make-it-rain-MFsqcBSoOKPbjtmvWz

[fluid agate]

Soooo, who's got that god build for titania?

[fierce lark]

are you just not using regulators then or what

cause they can't aim for heads

[velvet pulsar]

Whatever build u do, put this in the exilus of her Dex Pixia:

[hollow mantle]

Regulators are like, an ability, that you can turn on and off.

[velvet pulsar]

And put this in the exilus of ur regular pistol as well

[hollow mantle]

Got a flash of AGGP in my head from this

https://giphy.com/gifs/BoboMemes-anime-bobo-akira-ZAz2cUuJ4SKGK5nSEh

[livid abyss]

Is the hespar a primarily heavy attack weapon?

[velvet pulsar]

?

[hollow mantle]

Scythe's have that whole forced slash proc thing but idk if that extends to heavy scythes

[old marsh]

not really. its a weapon u r supposed to sell and not actually craft. shit sells for a lot

my retirement fund

damn. price dropped

[hollow mantle]

AGGP was the crybaby streamer that begged DE over and over for Titania's Ironclad Flight augment.

[gleaming vapor]

this is correct

not sure what the context is

[velvet pulsar]

That's something I've joked about as well. However this case is real useful coz Titania gets to have 80 energy per regular orb:
https://youtu.be/sVEKd_mjmkU?si=-nFqpbGU-P-XjLsR

[gleaming vapor]

:kek:

[hollow mantle]

Saryn seemingly baffled that I have an aura mod that isn't for my regulators

[livid abyss]

i see, since i just got a riven for it

[gleaming vapor]

what did you equip?

[hollow mantle]

Worthy Comradery

[gleaming vapor]

yeah not sure bout that one chief

[hollow mantle]

I do endurance, I'm not ONLY using Regulators for 4 hours straight

[gleaming vapor]

pretty sure even with 100% headshot, cproj is still better

id have to calc it, but yeah

[hollow mantle]

My stuff actually does more with it than Cproj

That's why I use it

I run all Corrosive anyways

[gleaming vapor]

well if it works for you im not gonna stop you

[old marsh]

trash price is 15p. dont even bother. it has a decent dispo but the weapon itself is like meh.

[hollow mantle]

Exactly

[gleaming vapor]

you run 5 corro shards?

[hollow mantle]

Nooo

[old marsh]

that would be insane lol

[livid abyss]

ah, alright then, unfortunate

[hollow mantle]

I run Corro/Heat on my weapons

[gleaming vapor]

you got nourish on subsume?

[hollow mantle]

Ofc twin

[gleaming vapor]

alr yeah seems fine then

[hollow mantle]

Nothing like viral slop

[old marsh]

whats your final SC?

[hollow mantle]

On what

All my weapons?

[old marsh]

honestly though u guys were discussing just 1

[hollow mantle]

Let me crawl out of bed and onto my computer and reopen steam and then warframe lol

[gleaming vapor]

regulators isnt full stripping anyway

idk what akmagnus does tho

[hollow mantle]

Akmagnus is my itch scratcher

I love it so much.

[gleaming vapor]

I usually run furis in secondary

[velvet pulsar]

Akmagnus is another rare multiplicative fire rate gun in the game

[gleaming vapor]

since regulators struggles with single targets in high densities

like level cap

[hollow mantle]

Everything I have is capable of doing well in lvl500 content, I just use whatever looks pretty

[old marsh]

thats what matters tbh

[gleaming vapor]

tbf everything does good in level 500 content

[opal leaf]

250?????????

[hollow mantle]

I haven't hit a level where Regulators fall off yet

[old marsh]

anything over 500 is just pure flex

[opal leaf]

Tf???????

[velvet pulsar]

NVM maybe I got it mixed up

[old marsh]

used to be 300-350.

[hollow mantle]

I think the highest damage my regulators have done is 600millionish

[opal leaf]

How hard it is to farm Hespar?

[gleaming vapor]

without outburst they fall off at about 1-3k

with outburst(12x) you can comfortably make it to cap

[old marsh]

not super hard. its just that void armageddon is an ass game mode

[hollow mantle]

I only use Crescendo on my melees with Outburst and Arcane Hotshot

[gleaming vapor]

well actually this is assuming grineer cascade

[opal leaf]

And no one wants to farm it

I see

[gleaming vapor]

in corpus cascade, ive taken fortifier up to cap

corpus have like 3 ehp total anyway

[mighty flare]

tbf, the Thalys came out so most ppl dont have a reason to, besides just collecting

[old marsh]

its mobile defense cascade basically. each wave u defend 3 targets (yes u have to move between them) and then kill a VA and finally then it completes 1 wave. do this 4 times to have a tiny chance to get the hespar blade

[opal leaf]

What's up with Thalys and Hespar

[hollow mantle]

Uhhh, my SC on my Regulators is 24%, like normal.
My akmagnus is a 50.4% but I have a multishot of 6 and Secondary Encumber for the fun of it.
Primary weapon changes so often it doesnt matter

[gleaming vapor]

you have a 60/60 on regs smh

[opal leaf]

Damn 4 times????? What's up with scythe

[old marsh]

if they add Hespar Incarnon or an augment, then it will be worth something

[hollow mantle]

No reason not to

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mid-meme-aew-mjf-mjf-meme-mid-gif-11983703810991326806

[gleaming vapor]

ts doesnt have enough base sc to warrant not just slotting full 90s/165s

[hollow mantle]

Unless there's something that can get my bullets above 600 million a shot

[gleaming vapor]

10% base

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's the thing

Aside Hate, idk how Thalys and Hespar are like... Usable

[gleaming vapor]

well yes you can slot full raws and have a companion prime

[old marsh]

Thalys is. its pretty good. Hespar not so much

[hollow mantle]

I Never use a companion primer 😭

[mighty flare]

Basically big scythe versus the cooler big scythe

[gleaming vapor]

bro wtf are you running 😭

[hollow mantle]

I just use Tenacious and Reinforced bond

[gleaming vapor]

every noteable companion can prime

[novel bear]

Coolest heavy scythe will always be corufell

[opal leaf]

Hmm fair fair

Well are they strong?

[hollow mantle]

I use the Nautilus Prime and i take off it's ability to attack and suck enemies up

[opal leaf]

The scythe gun

[gleaming vapor]

just run assault mode and tazicor dawg

you lose tenacious in exchange for like consistent 10 viral

and corro and cold and mag sometimes

[old marsh]

except Oxylus. the fishing companion

[hollow mantle]

But I don't need the viral

[gleaming vapor]

well that one isnt noteable

[hollow mantle]

and Tenacious is a fun bonus

[old marsh]

it is notable. its used for fishing

[gleaming vapor]

400% extra damage dawg

[hollow mantle]

I have Nourish for the viral

[gleaming vapor]

vs what 1.2 final cd

[fierce lark]

it is and it's not even close

[gleaming vapor]

yeah and youre hitting like maybe 4-5 procs at most

[mighty flare]

Sorta? Big scythes have issue of having a shit stance

[gleaming vapor]

why have 5 when you could have 10

[opal leaf]

Hnnn

[hollow mantle]

Because if it needs ten it'll hit ten

[fierce lark]

comradarie is ass, it just has a funny gimmick with breach surge

[velvet pulsar]

Tazicor

[hollow mantle]

everything dies INSTANTLY anyways

[gleaming vapor]

well ig thats fair if youre not going to cap

[novel bear]

Scythes like heavy attacks and heavy scythes have a bugged heavy attack

[velvet pulsar]

Duplex Bond + Tazicor

[opal leaf]

Ohhhh

[old marsh]

our starting one. we shall never forget

[gleaming vapor]

I like assault mode more than duplex

[hollow mantle]

I have no trouble with cap

[gleaming vapor]

id rather target in front of me than way ahead of me

[velvet pulsar]

We can't have both?

[hollow mantle]

Is it that hard for people to just let others use different things than them hooooly shit

[old marsh]

u mean the dmg it does, right? or something else?

[novel bear]

Dmg

[gleaming vapor]

i mean not ideally

slots and shit

[fierce lark]

in what way is anyone else preventing you from equipping and/or sharing what you want? please explain why you're so obnoxiously defensive 24/7

[hollow mantle]

Everytime you speak you shit on someone

[opal leaf]

I use my Diriga for priming every elemental and fire rate hahaha

[velvet pulsar]

Assault Mode also counts as precept depending on placement which interrupts other precepts while duplex bond doesn't

[gleaming vapor]

youre hitting reinforced on diriga?

[opal leaf]

Yes sir hahaha

[velvet pulsar]

Probably Haven

[opal leaf]

Waitni

[undone dust]

you just speak shit

[opal leaf]

Sorry it's Panzer

[hollow mantle]

Diriga is the sniper one right?

[fierce lark]

that just isn't true though in any capacity, everything i say in this channel is either for the sake of discussion or to try and help/correct someone to the best of my abilities

and every time you speak and someone disagrees with literally anything you say or post you complain about how awful the server/channel/people are. why are you here if you hate it so much?

[gleaming vapor]

yeah with 150 base shields

not sure how youre gonna hit 1200 on that

[opal leaf]

I have Panzer

[undone dust]

i hate you but im here because im like mlk jr

[hollow mantle]

I think I've said something to this affect maybe three times, and it's either you or someone who acts like you.

[gleaming vapor]

oh yeah tahts ez then

[undone dust]

i have a dream

[fierce lark]

ur my first vectis incarnon target

[gleaming vapor]

mb gng i was just tryna help

[opal leaf]

Yes I'm sorry bout that

[undone dust]

god im so green

[gray quarry]

Pistol rivntime

[hollow mantle]

You're fine, I ran out of my meds a few days ago, I've been super angry all the time this past weekend

[velvet pulsar]

Greenscreen urself

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/what-meme-meme-template-green-screen-green-background-zoom-out-gif-26358630

[fierce lark]

that was aimed at me, you took a loose stray

[velvet pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/bogos-binted-photos-printed-vorp-what-hey-just-wondering-if-you-got-your-photos-printed-gif-10540047482318194748

[gleaming vapor]

yeah no i get it lmao

on that note I should prolly work on the video

[gray quarry]

Kills while wall latching/dashing

[gleaming vapor]

lowk unmotivated tho

[fierce lark]

shitter shield

[gray quarry]

Shield shitter

[gleaming vapor]

shatter shield is lowk a fun ability

[undone dust]

god im so overguarded

[gleaming vapor]

yes shatter shield can proc overguard

[subtle solstice]

shit the shield

[gleaming vapor]

and also influence

secret tech

[velvet pulsar]

How does its damage reflection pair with Cold Elemental Ward subsume damage reflection?

[gray quarry]

Riven done

[solar reef]

god i love vortex ichors

[gray quarry]

Pray for somethin good

[solar reef]

they are so freaking cool

[gray quarry]

Grimoire

[velvet pulsar]

U got magnetic more weighting or gas?

[gleaming vapor]

i think its normal, but unsure

[solar reef]

tox needs more weght generally

[undone dust]

can you vortex me

[velvet pulsar]

Outsourced magnetic?

[solar reef]

oh i forgot to slot that

[toxic latch]

Does anyone have a good voruna prime build they could share please?

[solar reef]

had it on my riven set p not my generalist

forgot to add it 😰

[undone dust]

god you're so stupid it's so hot

[solar reef]

this is what its looking like when i get my grubby hands on the perfect riven

(not scaled to S-Rank grades)

[velvet pulsar]

So a magnetic toxin build?

[solar reef]

all of them are at around B tier

[undone dust]

holy moly

[solar reef]

the clouds arent actually gas

[subtle solstice]

which arcane pack do i buy with vosfor?

[solar reef]

its tox

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah I said gas coz gas has synergy with grouping

[solar reef]

it would be hard to justify slotting it when I have so many other status effects being shoved onto it

(nourish/venom dose)

[velvet pulsar]

But because the clouds itself are already AoE, don't need to double down on gas

[solar reef]

but yeah i'm mostly just looking for that lovely riven

found one at a reasonable price but its -corpus or -combo duration

could honestly eat the -combo duration

[oblique dust]

Do green shard toxin damage buff affect Grendel’s regurgitate?

[old marsh]

Ye

[oblique dust]

Is the optimal combo just all in on green shards?

[opal leaf]

WOAHHHH what's with that buffs !!!!

[solar reef]

if you're running augment, potentially not

[oblique dust]

I am

[solar reef]

keep in mind that when you use his 4th's augment, only the last (and smallest) bounce is tox

[old marsh]

Nah. He likes casting speed, Duration, STR. Blue armor if u want to go persistence without Umbral fiber.

[solar reef]

toxic lash + venom dose + nourish + 3 Tox Shards

[old marsh]

Just use 1 green Tox

[solar reef]

i run him with 2 casting and 3 greens because they look prettier

red strengths would be preferred more than likely

[oblique dust]

I see thanks

[opal leaf]

Oh on Saryn?

[old marsh]

Me always trying to make a rainbow

[opal leaf]

Aight aight

Wait Malz, does Saryn give THAT MUCH buffs?

[old marsh]

Almost always I have like 3 different color shards. Very rarely I will go with 2

[solar reef]

same build with none of the former buffs (excluding arcane strike)

[opal leaf]

Damn Alrigjt... Maybe I'll add Her in the infection gang I'm with Nidus and Nokko

[solar reef]

ive said it before, ill say it again

Saryn is the best platformer in the game

she has no real competition

[opal leaf]

But is she augment reliant?

[solar reef]

she needs one augment to platform

[opal leaf]

Oooo so not that much Reliant

Aight aigjt

[solar reef]

heres what I use

[opal leaf]

Lastly can she perform well even in budget builds? You know my builds, always budget builds hahaha

[solar reef]

currently running blind rage over transient

[twilit crest]

I’m sure

Send the proof

[opal leaf]

What's the replacement for Rolling guard, I don't really use it as I dot have much problems to statuses and stuff

[warm kayak]

Can you run Attitude on burston Like does it Work?

[opal leaf]

Nope

[warm kayak]

Why not?

[opal leaf]

It doesn't work on Incarnon Mode, like it just doesn't

Instead of giving you what you need from Aptitude, it'll give less

That's the best I can explain it

[warm kayak]

But for some reason i do way more damage on incarnon with aptitude

Like from 600k per shot to 1.5mil

[twilit crest]

Send the build

[opal leaf]

It just added Base damage

Not able to reach higher stuff

Can you send the build

[twilit crest]

Tryna be on these packets

[opal leaf]

Like these is my build it's bc you have the Riven

aptitude really dont the thing here

It's your Riven and Hammer Shot doing the thing

[warm kayak]

So okay the aptitude doenst hit on the aoe but it hits on direct htis like the shot before the aoe

[opal leaf]

Yes but as I said, it doesn't work on Incarnon Mode

Might as well use Scope than Apt

Damn it's so hard to explain hahah English is not my first language

Malz! Thank God your here hahah

[solar reef]

you'd be looking at more strength or more duration

range is competely irrelevant on her as a weapons platform

unless you're doing some spores stuff but thats super specific

[opal leaf]

Gotcha, oh and Malz

Why is Aptitude not good for Burston (or any Incarnon) again? I don't know how to explain kt

[solar reef]

the AOE doesn't benefit from the conditional damage

some incarnon's can use it

its not an incarnon issue

[opal leaf]

Ooo like what?

[solar reef]

its an aoe issue

[opal leaf]

So Burston is one of them?

[solar reef]

burston cant use it

[opal leaf]

Isn't Burston Hitscan right?

[solar reef]

it is hitscan but thats not really a part of the problem

the aoe explosion that is generated does not benefit from it

[opal leaf]

Ohhh I see I see, noted

[timber sparrow]

💔

[brittle sleet]

It is often both; condition overload mods usually don't factor in the damage boost from the incarnon evolution perks, making them less effective than they would be otherwise

[solar reef]

This is why you dont run it on the burston, braton, or torid

[opal leaf]

@warm kayak ^

Malz gave the explanation on why apt is not good on Burston

The ones doing the damage is your riven your Hammershot

[solar reef]

you just replace it with serration on the weapons that cant use it

[warm kayak]

So i tested now (in incarnon)

No aptitude + priming

=1mio-1.1mio

Aptitude + priming

=1.4mio-1.6mio

[opal leaf]

Might as well use Serration

It'll sky rocket

[timber sparrow]

so anyway

oh im in the wrong channel oops

[opal leaf]

As we just said, Aptitude doesn't work on Incarnon Mode

[timber sparrow]

well i can get a coda weapon now 🤔

[solar reef]

the bullet itself still benefits

[twilit crest]

R u replacing aptitude with anything

[solar reef]

the explosions/aoe do not

[opal leaf]

Which sucks bc that's where Burston is known at

[solar reef]

the explosions being over half its damage

[warm kayak]

Sorry for the misunderstanding the person that explained me sayd it works but didnt tell me its not that effectiv

[gray quarry]

Half of burstons damage is the aoe around the bullets from the incarnon

[fierce lark]

it is also an incarnon issue

[subtle solstice]

what do i need for shield gating?

[opal leaf]

Who told you that tho

[fierce lark]

the "increase damage" 2nd evo on incarnon weapons doesn't get buffed by galv CO mods

hitscan aoe does actually get CO benefits

projectile aoe does not

and hitscan aoe usually only gets it on the initial target

[mighty flare]

catalyzing shields + 1 augur mod or brief respite

[fierce lark]

the reason it's bad on burston is because the incarnon form only has 13 base damage, and the 42 added to both parts from the evo doesn't get benefit from aptitude

[mighty flare]

i would just reccomend ehp tanking if you're very early in the game however

[subtle solstice]

i'll have to check after my mission for a an augur

what's with these?

[solar reef]

coda lich related

[subtle solstice]

whats a coda lich?

[opal leaf]

@warm kayak ^

[solar reef]

do you know what kuva liches are

[subtle solstice]

ye

[solar reef]

they are techrot liches

[subtle solstice]

mhm?

[solar reef]

mhm

techrot liches are coda liches

[subtle solstice]

is there more?

[solar reef]

wdym is there more

[fierce lark]

there are plenty of resources if you want a full guide on how to hunt technocyte coda lol

[solar reef]

they have different processes yes, im not going to go into detail on how to do that in build chat

that is a huge hastle

[subtle solstice]

what's the point of fighting one?

[quiet laurel]

same reason you would fight other liches

[solar reef]

weapons/ephemeras

[subtle solstice]

what weapons do they offer?

[quiet laurel]

coda weapons

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/when-will-you-wear-wigs-ven-vill-you-vear-vigs-lord-of-the-rings-frodo-elijah-wood-gif-17930969

[quiet laurel]

you can find a list on wiki

[subtle solstice]

hmmmmm maybe not for me

[warm kayak]

Man why modding gotta be so complicated i thought after 2,7k hours i got it

[quiet laurel]

game filled with bugs will inevitably be complicated when it comes to modding

if we didnt have these bugs though most builds would look the exact same

[warm kayak]

Good old Warframe Spagetti code

[quiet laurel]

so cant complain

[fleet veldt]

anyone got a weapons platform gauss build, can I have two one with helminth and one without

[thorn spindle]

Should I remove the serration and replace with Vital Sense?

[quiet laurel]

you should replace hammer shot and galv aptitude if anything

serration you can too since you got merciless but the other 2 do significantly less

[thorn spindle]

i main mirage if this changes anything

[quiet laurel]

doesnt change a whole lot, builds are the same still for most weapons since eclipse is just a multiplicative buff

[thorn spindle]

to buff weapons

[quiet laurel]

for specific cases you can drop some dmg mods like if you wanna speedrun exterminates

but in general just go normal gun build

[drowsy pelican]

About to build hildryn, how do I enter kill stealer mode?

[late ice]

Why do groll torid rivens love tox?

[undone dust]

you can go viral or corro, or hell even gas if you wanted to for some reason

tox is just a really easy element to build with

[solar reef]

it has innate tox

[late ice]

But torid has built in tox, so why need tox

[solar reef]

i would assume its for status weight reasons but yeah

[late ice]

Explain status weight?

[subtle solstice]

i really wanna like the bronco but it's so BAD. But it's the only 2 shot shotgun pistol in the game compatible with the shotgun skin from the hex

Why did they do this

[brittle sleet]

It's got pretty solid utility with the incarnon and its augment mod at least

[frozen grail]

yo i need some help deciding on a subsume for Equinox, whatever i subsume is going to be over their one ideally, my main issue is survivability right now which i want the subsume to help with, i could do the classic terrify but id like to run it with the augment if i do which i dont really have space for, plus this is what everyone runs so its a bit boring
i tried them with gloom over the 1 and it worked super well (i run a fortifier secondary with them so that helps alot) but gloom is also kinda like over used plus i like when more enemies are withing visible range before they die lol
any ideas are welcome! ill share both my builds so you have an idea of what im rocking with, i usually end up with low str (around the 100-140s) and high range as i love their 4 but i like to keep it as more of a back pocket thing as opposed to spamming it

[frank crypt]

I'm not on my pc rn so I can't send u a Pic of my Equinox build

But I use Pillage and subsumed the 2 away instead, use the augment mod to keep the stacks from form change and have found decent success with it.

Something less fancy would be maybe Koumeis subsume? Maybe Mirages subsume and use it defensively

[frozen grail]

all good, do u go for high str with them then? or do u keep it somewhat low (meaning under the like 350 some required to full strip)

[smoky gale]

is the nataruk good on gyre?

[frozen grail]

any and everything is good on gyre

but yes

[frank crypt]

I have str on a neutral level, didn't invest much in it, the rest of Equinox doesn't need it that much. Especially with Night forms 3 being capped at a 50% ability str increase

[frozen grail]

fair fair, hm i may look into pillage once again that does sound nice, solves my issues too

[fierce lark]

tox is generally just a sellable stat on most rivens, just about every single gun build uses either corro or viral

torid doesn't need it for corro blast, but if you want to go viral heat/corrosive heat or pure tox, you still need to mod toxin

[cursive wedge]

Is a coda bubonico riven worth it? I really like the weapon

[frank crypt]

For your own personal fav weapons I'd always say it's worth it

Makes build crafting more fun

Dispo is terrible with a 1/5 but that didn't stop me getting my Arca plasmor riven ^^

[cursive wedge]

I see

Its just that It wont let me see the dispo

[frank crypt]

Well 1/5 aka a 0.5x stat multiply

Very much doodoo

[subtle solstice]

is this any good?

[mighty flare]

No

[subtle solstice]

really? Awe it seemed so promising

[drowsy pelican]

I mean 750 flat damage doesn’t seem too useful

Ig toxic on a non sp corpus

But the slot’s better used on another arcane

[hollow mantle]

Yeah like Secondary Kinship

[novel bear]

10 status effects a second is 7500 dps
Which is nothing

[subtle solstice]

when you say it like that it doesnt SOUND like nothing

but i suppose you can make that kind of damage in a single shot

[novel bear]

100k dps is basically expected

With a good build and buffs

Millions is more than achievable

Most of those buffs won’t affect empowered

[warm obsidian]

Do I spam Cedo's alt fire?

[novel bear]

What are you using cedo for

Alt fire is good for priming, not so good for damage

[warm obsidian]

As my main gun