builds-discussion

[placid seal]

I got work to focus on

[drifting gust]

should I use tenet livia or grigori, I'm going to be doing heavy attack and need a really big slash proc

[opal leaf]

Sad

[solar reef]

why do you need really big slash proc

[placid seal]

Don't got any other arcane that would work better on him

[drifting gust]

nuke

[opal leaf]

Some frames don't need Flow or Equilibrium hahaha

Like Nokko has an option to not use Equilibrium

Nidus doesn't need Flow

Like.... Yeah

[opal leaf]

On who anyway? What frame

[placid seal]

Qorvex

[opal leaf]

Oh that stuff is messed up

Yoi need to invest a lot just to make him Decent

I heard the stories

Like Arcane Uni Fallout

The augment, you need to build around that specific augment and such

Yada Yada yada

[drifting gust]

its gonna spread and kill everything but I need it to do a lot of dmg

[solar reef]

I mean I guess Livia based on numbers but why those two

If its for Voruna it doesnt even have to be slash

it can be any DOT (aside from heat)

[drifting gust]

because first of all slash is cool

second of all tenet is cool

and both of those have a forced slash proc on heavy

[solar reef]

Gas Syam

[opal leaf]

Slash literally got outperformed by any other elements

And Voruna can status nuke anyway

[solar reef]

you misunderstand

[opal leaf]

Oh I guess

[solar reef]

Weapons like, say Hate, can do tens of millions of damage on its forced slash procs

[opal leaf]

I have my notes ready

[solar reef]

when you pair that with Voruna’s two, and the way it works, it can spread that slash

[opal leaf]

Hmmm

So... Is that's why he is Op?

[solar reef]

Of course, this works for any DOT, not just slash

[opal leaf]

Ohhh I GET IT!

Gotta write that down for future references

[solar reef]

except for heat because of how heat inherent works

[drifting gust]

I can also just mod the tenet weapon to have toxin or electricity and have both of them nuke sinse voruna has 100% status chance with her one

[solar reef]

Heat inherent requires your big heat tick to come before the other heat procs are applied to you cant do it effectively with her using Heat

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah I heard that

I forgot the term... Reverse heat inherent?

[solar reef]

Ultimately the best weapons on her are still magislam or zaw contagion but thats boring

[solar reef]

its not even reverse its just heat inherent

[drifting gust]

yeah boring

CREDIT BOOST EVENT

[solar reef]

I will always run her with Hate or Syam

[drifting gust]

FINALLY

[opal leaf]

Oh I see

[drifting gust]

I want a tenet weapon on her bcs I like the special weapons(coda, kuva and tenet)

and only tenet has a forced slash melee

[solar reef]

just use syam with the corpus skins

[humble forge]

So I had this idea for a build a long while back (I’m talking before the Condition Overload nerf) where I would use the Celestial Twin of a Wukong who would prime enemies while I go in with a Melee with Condition Overload (and maybe even Blood Rush if the melee’s crit chance could get into red crit territory)

Anyway, here was my plan with this

• Wukong Prime (Image 1, likely to ad Arcane Fury and Arcane Aegis)
• Kuva Zarr (Image 2, innate Toxin, likely to use Primary Overcharge)
• Epitaph Prime (Image 3)
• Broken War (Image 4)
• Diriga (Image 5, modded for priming)
• Burst Laser Prime (Image 6, modded for priming)

What do you all think? Is it a good idea? Something to try out and improve upon for yourselves? I’m at work atm, so I’ll get back yall’s thoughts when I’m back to my Xbox to make adjustments wherever necessary.

[drifting gust]

that's boring

[humble forge]

Also sorry for interrupting the conversation lol

[drifting gust]

I also think I sold my syam

[solar reef]

tldr holy text wall

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/1blocked-message-gif-22588065

criminal activity

[drifting gust]

bruh

I needed space

[solar reef]

one of the best melees in the game and you threw it away for space

literally a perfect weapon for Voruna (MultiCO)

[drifting gust]

I didn't like it, reminded of excalibur

[solar reef]

of all the multiCO weapons its probably top 3 for her

number one obviously being contagion zaws but 💤

[drifting gust]

I am an avid hater of zaws, torid and mirage

[twilit crest]

number one obviously being magistar

[solar reef]

but yeah for future reference Syam’s projectile is MultiCO and shits out the funniest of numbers

[solar reef]

not multiCO

not in the conversation

[twilit crest]

its 2026

[drifting gust]

the other voruna build I got could use that very well, but the nuke one not so much

the guy needs to stay alive after the heavy or else the slash proc won't spread

[solar reef]

also you’re late to the party meta

[drifting gust]

I also dislike magislam

[twilit crest]

how original

[solar reef]

another phemonal, noteworthy weapon pick for her is Verdilac

[placid seal]

I did that too

I hated the syam so much

[drifting gust]

nira's whip? why?

[solar reef]

yeah but you’re also like slow so you get a pass

[drifting gust]

yeah, its exalted blade all over again

[placid seal]

Woah exalted blade goated?

[placid seal]

???

[solar reef]

i’ll never stop laughing at the voruna conversation we had m with you 😭

[drifting gust]

not quite my tempo

[solar reef]

or was that somebody else who got trashed on for like an hour straight

i though it was you

[twilit crest]

what is ur tempo

[placid seal]

Yall kept giving me horrible info

"Just don't die" that doesn't help

[solar reef]

we gave you literally all the information needed, like 4 alternatives, and everytime you just went “I dont need it!” despite it being the thing you needed

“I keep dying to status!”
“use her passive that makes her inmune to status.”
“i dont need it!”

[placid seal]

Voruna so boring anyways

Never said I didn't need it

I said I didn't use it

Someone can't remember

[solar reef]

“I cant keep her alive.”
“so use an augur/brief mod to shield gate”
“I dont want to thats pointless!”

[drifting gust]

what did you just say

[placid seal]

I do use it. It's still pointless

[solar reef]

LOL

[drifting gust]

also I can't keep her alive with her having invis is wild

[placid seal]

That's the 2

[twilit crest]

yall legit got the same pfp

[solar reef]

thats her passive

her 2 passive

[placid seal]

He was talking about the 2 tho?

[solar reef]

her 2 passive

also, even if it WASNT her passive, her 2 is literally her strongest ability

why would you not use it

[placid seal]

Its boring

[drifting gust]

her 2 passive is js broken

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/shon-son-im-crine-crying-emoji-tony-soprano-james-gandolfini-gif-14507653161593722622

[drifting gust]

bruh

[placid seal]

It's just like Octavia

[solar reef]

this is why we clowned on you

[placid seal]

I rather use Rev other than that

[drifting gust]

IT IS NOT LIKE THAT BROTHER

[solar reef]

In what world does octavia have any ability like Voruna’s 2

[twilit crest]

ye rev n wukong r much better

[placid seal]

Still haven't gotten wukong

I want him

[solar reef]

40 meter status spread for 10 stacks of 13 status?

[drifting gust]

hey doom slayer quick question, do you prime enemies with like a primary or a pistol?

[placid seal]

I don't prime

[drifting gust]

figured

[twilit crest]

priming in 2026

[placid seal]

My panzer somewhat primes but other than that

I dislike doing it very much

[solar reef]

Voruna’s 2 is the best priming ability in the game

[twilit crest]

wait the 2026 method is the latron prime primer

[drifting gust]

that's why you should press 2, its one button and primes better than half of the shit in this game

[solar reef]

we’re in bubonico phase buddy, catch up

[twilit crest]

negative aura weapon

[placid seal]

Eh. I think I would stick to a different warframe

[drifting gust]

or you could also prime with the bubble gun

[placid seal]

Like gauss

[solar reef]

secondary primer? in this day and age?

[drifting gust]

anyways should I do my loadout full tenet or should I do one tenet one kuva and one coda

[placid seal]

Use wolf sledge

[solar reef]

wolf sledge doesnt work well with her kit

[drifting gust]

fine, you could use cedo prime or torid as a primer

[placid seal]

Throwing hammer funny tho

[drifting gust]

also probosis cernos

[solar reef]

it likes to break invisibility before detonation

[twilit crest]

🧠

[hexed lodge]

torid primer

[placid seal]

Invis

[drifting gust]

what about it

[twilit crest]

a man who thinks all the time

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/so-much-fun-it's-a-crime-walter-nelson-minions-yuorki-yuorki1-gif-8369629548157395193

[drifting gust]

me nose bleed brb

[hexed lodge]

i mean... it can work? there are way better primary primers tho, like bubonico, phage, cedo or even phantasma

Torid is more broadly used as main dps

[twilit crest]

r these better than latron p

[drifting gust]

I know, I'm just hating on torid

[drifting gust]

tenet glaxion is also an option

any beam can work

cause beam strong with status

[twilit crest]

none of them fully armor strip tho

[drifting gust]

with 2 emerald shards they do

[twilit crest]

ye im good

2 shards thats like

[opal leaf]

[twilit crest]

thats like too much

[hexed lodge]

fair, i don't enjoy torid either

[solar reef]

Rakta Dark Dagger armor strip

[opal leaf]

I just like Torid bc it's Infested, fits my Nidus

And My Nokko

I mean I use Torid while not using the Incarnon at all hahaha

[drifting gust]

there are some weapons that I just don't enjoy bcs they are too boring, like torid, magistar, zaws and I'm probably forgetting some others

[drifting gust]

use a full coda loadout then

[hexed lodge]

based

[opal leaf]

I am soon

Just not there yet

I'm Mr16

[solar reef]

not even gonna mention the coolest infest weapon

[twilit crest]

that would be tuff nidus torid dual tox

[digital gate]

Finally picked up Saryn Prime. What do y'all think of this build? I saw online that it's primary focus is range, and strength is irrelevant because damage stacks. So I went with this.

[opal leaf]

That's my build with him at the moment

[solar reef]

Dual Ichor Incarnon GOATed

[opal leaf]

I don't have Coda Bassocyst yet

[drifting gust]

fair, that's what I'm gonna do with my voruna I just don't know if I should run full tenet or one tenet one kuva and one coda

[twilit crest]

ya i would run the same thing nidus is cool but these buffs were needed way be4

[drifting gust]

its a really fun weapon

[opal leaf]

My main would probably the Basso fr

[hexed lodge]

yeah same reason for why i don't enjoy things like Influence.
If i bring a sword, i want to play like i am using a sword
but if i want to complete a boring mission super quick, sure i'll bring some slop

[solar reef]

dreamers bond + streamline are both slot wastes
two augur mods without cata shields

[opal leaf]

That's my main weapon for Nokko

And Torid for Nidus

[solar reef]

Her range build absolutely wants her augment

i personally run a -range Saryn for weapons platfotming

[drifting gust]

try the synapse too, its a really fun beam weapon

[opal leaf]

Coda right?

[digital gate]

I go with what I got. I'm only MR8

[drifting gust]

yeah, if I need to just do it quick I'll bring glaive prime or falcor, else I'll do something fun

[drifting gust]

yeah coda synapse

[opal leaf]

I'm not into beam, that's why I've been using my Torid as Incarnoff

[solar reef]

at mr8 there are other options

[drifting gust]

fair

[opal leaf]

Like check it hahahah

[solar reef]

growing power doesnt need you to be stupid high MR

Equilibrium neither

[digital gate]

"I go with what I got"

[drifting gust]

lol

[digital gate]

I don't have those.

[solar reef]

so get more

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[opal leaf]

I have one build with Galv Aptitude on it hahaha

[digital gate]

🙄 okay I'm done with this conversation

[drifting gust]

does it work?

[hexed lodge]

ninjas farmers play free

[opal leaf]

On direct hit, not on AOE

[solar reef]

you asked for thoughts on your build so I gave you thoughts

[digital gate]

"I'm broke"

"So get money"

I feel like that's the conversation I just had.

[drifting gust]

direct hit torid dps lmao

[opal leaf]

Yup XDDDD

[solar reef]

you dont need money

[drifting gust]

"I'm broke"

"use chroma"

[solar reef]

oh i misread that

but yeah the point is if you dont have mods, go farm mods

[digital gate]

I was using an analogy.

[opal leaf]

If ur broke, then... Glue yourself

[solar reef]

yeah I got that

[solar reef]

. thansk for clarifying though?

If you’re clever enough to use an analogy then you should be clever enough to understand that you should get your hands on more mods

[digital gate]

That's actually what I'm doing now. Growing power is at the top of my list.

[solar reef]

especially on things like equilibrium, something half the roster uses

[opal leaf]

Aight gtg to bed, cya tennos

[drifting gust]

cya

[solar reef]

For 9/10 frames with energy issues equilibrium is the final, god sent solution

synth deconstruct turned that mod into a staple

[digital gate]

I have 65p so I can buy some. I'm just trying to get the right prices. I'm not paying more than 30p for growing power.

[drifting gust]

wait, I think tenet grigori would be better than livia

cause nikana heavy has a 500% damage stance and scythes have a 600%

[solar reef]

out of luck on that

you wont get much better

[digital gate]

That's what r0 averages at.

[solar reef]

thats not average

thats the cheapest

[hexed lodge]

for some reason there is a recent trend of players adding Blind Rage on wfs lacking abilities that replenish energy...
And then complain about having no energy? just weird

[digital gate]

Well the lower end is what I meant to say. IDK why I said average.

[drifting gust]

wait nvm tenet livia is a two handed nikana, its also 600%

[digital gate]

But I know I can get it for that. So I'm not willing to pay more than that.

[drifting gust]

ppl are becoming less smart by the second nowdays

[digital gate]

Oop just posted to buy it for 30 Platinum and got a hit immediately

[solar reef]

“i have this problem”
“heres the thing that solves that problem”
“no ”

[digital gate]

It took forever to get that

[solar reef]

i wonder where we had this conversation recently…

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317012109615435856/1442717121036554291/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_19.gif

[drifting gust]

LOL

[solar reef]

he literally had like 8-9 people in chat calling him stupid

im amazed he walked away thinking he was in the right

[drifting gust]

yeah

[solar reef]

if you’re going to be wrong, i guess its best to do it confidently

[digital gate]

Boom! Growing Power 30p

[drifting gust]

nice!

[digital gate]

I've been after that aura for that price for weeks now. But I knew I'd get it eventually.

And that's why I'm lacking certain mods. If I'm going to buy them for Platinum then I'm going to pay the right price.

[drifting gust]

should I do my loadout full tenet or should I do one tenet one kuva and one coda weapon?

[drifting gust]

the art of bargaining

[naive hinge]

🙂 @errant trellis

[solar reef]

heres what I use on her for weapons platforming
you can comfortably drop Rolling Guard its just an “oh shit!” button for when I get caught by Violence and cant cast Molt

[naive hinge]

good incestement ?

[drifting gust]

HUH?

[digital gate]

All I do is farm and sell frames. And I'm not in any rush to make sales since everything in this game takes forever.

[naive hinge]

.@drifting gust

how much numbers does it do ? @errant trellis

[solar reef]

If you meant the Skana then yeah its fine

if you enjoy the incarnon its a really good weapon

without its incarnon its kinda jank though

[drifting gust]

incestment

[naive hinge]

ahh
investement

[drifting gust]

LOL

happens

[naive hinge]

idk its incarnon but i am getting it

[solar reef]

better hurry, got about 32 hours left until its gone for the next 8 weeks

[errant trellis]

I don't remember but keep in mind it was with a riven. I'm sure you'll get similar numbers without it since it is a strong weapon

[digital gate]

I'm proud of my collection so far. And I've sold so many frames already that I probably should have crafted.

[solar reef]

If a weapons good with a riven it will be good without one

[naive hinge]

i didnt get the hate incar ):

[solar reef]

If a weapons bad without a riven it will be bad with one

[errant trellis]

Yuh. Just this riven had Crit damage and almost 300% Crit chance lol

[solar reef]

i need to sell all my cash cows

my hate rivens sitting super heavy in price right now

[errant trellis]

Harmless negative too. Also I have no clue what I'm doing for selling rivens

Cause I'm probably sitting on a lot of plat

[solar reef]

ill probably wait for the next Jade event
Hate hype will shoot up

Since Burning Hate will be in the event shop

[errant trellis]

True

[solar reef]

i could turn around and sell this roll at 3500 in a few minutes in TC, i’m hoping it will go up a little more during/shortly after the event

[subtle solstice]

is there a slow firing machine gun that does a lot of heavy damage per bullet?

[solar reef]

theres trumna i suppose

[subtle solstice]

oooo i have that one i forgot about that

is it any good?

[solar reef]

its pretty good

[subtle solstice]

how would i build it?

[solar reef]

mauls base steel path

[subtle solstice]

hm?

oh right

[drifting gust]

I just saw a video on someone nuking the whole map with voruna, without breaking stealth

no melee hits, no gun firing, and he was hitting dmg cap

what the f*ck

[solar reef]

i miss doing that with Blood Altar Voruna

[drifting gust]

nah

it was a kubrow

that dog scares me

[solar reef]

yeah mecha builds do that

[drifting gust]

might build it

[solar reef]

kubrows are a good example for why her 4th sucks

just remember that kubrow claws have a higher sustained raw dps

than her 4th

and thats ignoring things like mecha builds

[drifting gust]

her 4th is fun tho,

you can snapshot strength

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/mariolord-mariolord14-mario-lord-mario-lord-gif-12993108603153607612

[drifting gust]

and do like 1 billion damage

[solar reef]

it could do a guaranteed 2 billion damage every time i press it, i’d still subsume it off

melee for the melee queen

[drifting gust]

like, if you do max strength + molt augmented + arcane impetus + relic boost you can hit like insane damage

and then lose it all to a nullifier bubble

[solar reef]

and still get out done by a voruna using the worse melees in the game

[drifting gust]

yeah

[solar reef]

god vorunas so GOATed

[drifting gust]

btw I never see anyone using mecha builds, if its that strong why dont more ppl use it?

[velvet pulsar]

Do people run Miter with Voruna for nullifiers?

[solar reef]

just less interactive and focuses on companions

thus its less fun

it also doesnt beat the KPM of her melee setups

[drifting gust]

idk looking at the number go up is pretty fun to me(I play nerdy games and I got problems)

[modest vector]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eyes-eyeballs-cat-eye-emoji-eye-emoji-cat-looking-gif-9406810929029867845

[drifting gust]

well yeah, the 2 nuke with melee will probably out kpm it

just got the prey of dynar mod for the build

nice

[rocky mason]

The right one but keep rerolling

[dark harbor]

that's a lot of damage!

[velvet pulsar]

The right one is the right one

[digital gate]

I think someone recommended it the other day. Should I buy Corrosive Projection from Nightwave?

[gray quarry]

Right

[dark harbor]

i think you can also get it from alerts or events

but yeah on nora for 20

[digital gate]

I just bought it from her. I've been needing to collect more auras anyways.

[dark harbor]

ye some auras are hard to get

[violet silo]

don't run aptitude.

on burston in general

aptitude is usually pretty bad on radial weapons

so take that off, run the riven and galv scope.

keep rolling that riven tho...

[gray quarry]

Aptitude for serration

[violet silo]

its pretty bad

[violet silo]

well, riven instread of serration for now

[gray quarry]

Yeah

[digital gate]

Which is better for Saryn, Growing Power, or Corrosive Projection?

[violet silo]

I don't play saryn but probably growing power

[digital gate]

That's what I'm thinking. But I feel like they'd both synergize well.

[violet silo]

venom dose exists tho

[versed harbor]

growing power tbh out of those

u should have venom dose

[digital gate]

Yeah that's next on my list.

Probably just going to go ahead and buy one for platinum.

[old marsh]

Corr Proj

[digital gate]

Alright, I got venom dose.

[violet silo]

why?

[drifting gust]

If I see someone killing lvl cap with reaper prime and I do the same thing but with tenet livia, will it work?(same builds)

[subtle solstice]

how do i get a stronger amp? i've built one before but idk how it can be any stronger than this

[drifting gust]

get a x-4-7 or a x-7-7

[subtle solstice]

wha?

[violet silo]

good partss

[subtle solstice]

what's a good part?

[subtle solstice]

ooooh!

[drifting gust]

for prism its your choice but the best are the 1, the 5 and the 7

[subtle solstice]

thank you thank you

[drifting gust]

scaffold the best are the 4 and the 7

[subtle solstice]

thank you

[drifting gust]

and brace its just 7

then there's the arcanes for it and the mods(if you have the focus school weapons)

[violet silo]

so they go by "xxx"
x4x is phahd, xx7 is certus, 547 is cantic, phahd, certus

get it?

[subtle solstice]

okay this confused me

[violet silo]

?

[subtle solstice]

i dont understand it

i mean i understood till you said that, and idk what to make of it

[violet silo]

#xx is prism, x#x is scaffold, xx# is brace

[drifting gust]

yeah so like 147 would be raplack prism, phad scaffold, certus brace

[violet silo]

and x47 is whatever prism, phahd scaffold, certus brace

[subtle solstice]

ah ok

[subtle solstice]

tbh i first understood it when he said this

i can tell 1 was rapalk and so on

[brittle sleet]

The numbers were decided based on unlock order. The Cetus ones are 1-4, unlocked at corresponding ranks, and the Fortuna ones are 5-7

[drifting gust]

thats it, and then you put 3 numbers in sequence because there are 3 parts

[subtle solstice]

as long as it's universal

[drifting gust]

it is

[brittle sleet]

Yeah the whole community talks about them this way

If not this way they're mentioning the parts by name

[subtle solstice]

i see i see

[drifting gust]

so the 147 first number is for prism(so prism 1), second number for scaffold(scaffold 4) and third number for brace(brace 7)

[subtle solstice]

are 4 and 7 the only good scaffolds? Burst fire grenade launcher sounds good. Also isnt the scaffold just a special ability?

[drifting gust]

yeah the scaffold is just a special ability, the 4 is mainly used for almost everything and the 7 is mainly used for eidolon speedrun

you probably wont even be using the ability very much

[limber vale]

I just finished crafting Hildryn and I am trying to make her sp viable like I know she can be. I am a little confused on how pillage works. I see some people use her and they tap her pillage to refill shields but I feel like I have no range. What does the range scale off? and also will I have to 3 tap it to full strip or is there a way to make it strip more armor?

[drifting gust]

pretty sure her pillage range scales with duration try that

[limber vale]

thank you

[drifting gust]

it strips more with strength

so 400% strength would do a full strip in one tap

[limber vale]

Okay, that helps a lot. I'm pretty sure corrosive projection can lower that requirement

[drifting gust]

yeah, with it it goes to 328% if I'm not mistaken

[subtle solstice]

is 4 good for dealing with crowds only or can it do single target damage too?

[brittle sleet]

It definitely doesn't focus on a target but it deals with single targets in the same way a nuke does

[drifting gust]

4 throws a little glaive that bounces everywhere damaging enemies

[brittle sleet]

Oh wait the amp not Hildryn

[subtle solstice]

i see

[drifting gust]

lol yeah

[subtle solstice]

ye the amp

[brittle sleet]

It CAN do single target damage especially thanks to void status but you're definitely counting on your primary fire for single targets and alt fire for crowds with almost every amp setup

[craggy niche]

Prime or non prime?

If its non prime level it and subsume that shiiii ASAP

[drifting gust]

hildryn is the one frame that needs to be prime lol

[craggy niche]

Not really she fine either way but her subsume is hella nice

[violet silo]

not really, but shes one of the bigger differences

[drifting gust]

yeah but the extra shield is awesome on her

[violet silo]

no frame needs to be prime

[subtle solstice]

can i still use any scaffold i want or does it have to be 4 and 7? 4 sounds good but idk if i can use 7

[violet silo]

7 is much better than anything else

[craggy niche]

But yeah non prime hildryn is not worth grinding twice and her subsume is hella worth

[dense belfry]

this is me still workin on valkyr but as a intresting question:
would hotshot theoetically work on valkyr? help buff her weapon to even higher damage

[violet silo]

not really

[craggy niche]

Isn't hotshot for secondary? I thought valkyr is blades

[dense belfry]

hotshot is weapon crit buff per heat status from abilitys

its not specifically secondary weapons ive seen

[drifting gust]

the little glaive from 4 is helpfull the grenade from 7 is too, the other ones don't see much usage

[violet silo]

hotshot is for all weapons but are you subsuming a heat ability?

[dense belfry]

considering if mesas pistols count, wouldnt the same exalted idea apply to her claws?

[violet silo]

yea but their sc is abysmal

[craggy niche]

All I know about hotshot is there no universe where hotshot is worth 500p

[dense belfry]

do the trio of weeping wounds blood rush and condition overload

[drifting gust]

you would think so

[limber vale]

its prime

[dense belfry]

or at least weeping wounds to counteract the issue of her low sc

[craggy niche]

600 percent of bad is still bad

[dense belfry]

i wouldnt say that

[violet silo]

it really isnt enough tbh

[dense belfry]

ah, fair enough then ill prob slap on corrosive or viral on her claws when i get her lvl'd up

[violet silo]

just do pure tox with a primed mod or something

most possible damage

[craggy niche]

Isn't her claws electric inf with external viral?

[violet silo]

then exposure for even more

[dense belfry]

no its base stats is slash puncture

[violet silo]

ew
influence talons?

[subtle solstice]

that's a shame cuz things like the homing beam and burst fire grenade launcher sound good. But i guess it makes sense, i'll try to go 7 maybe

dunno what i'll use for the prism though. It's exciting

[dense belfry]

you might be thinking of garudas talons

[silk ether]

Should I spend vosfor on steel arcane collections to get the arbi arcanes or should I just get the 1000 vitus essence needed to buy enough and rank em

[craggy niche]

Oh yeah theb we just revolve back around to bad status lpl

[craggy niche]

Probably yeah

[violet silo]

press 1.

[drifting gust]

yeah, prism is where you decide how its gonna play out cause its what youre gonna be using the most

[subtle solstice]

7 seems the strongest though, doesnt it?

[violet silo]

7 is really low range

not good for angels/eidolons

[subtle solstice]

ah.

[violet silo]

x4x is usually your trash clearer

[drifting gust]

1 is like a sniper with higher cc and cd but slow firerate, its really good but if you miss the shots a lot it might not be the best option for you, 5 is a 3x burst with lower cc and cd than 1 but shoots faster and has similar damage, 7 is a firehose its cool does good damage, but yeah the range usually struggles

[subtle solstice]

i wish i could just swap out my prism instead of my amp entirely. Gotta make a new amp every time

[drifting gust]

yeah it sucks

My amp I went with a 547

Its been pretty good

[simple frost]

anyone has any reliable gram prime builds?

[subtle solstice]

i mean maybe i do but i'm new so idk if you should take advice from ME

[simple frost]

it has to have condition overload

[drifting gust]

does gram prime even kill anymore?

[subtle solstice]

i have to check

[subtle solstice]

i've been using it a lot recently

[violet silo]

meh, it wont be good but you can probably make it work

[carmine ember]

Should i change anything guys

[subtle solstice]

mine has condition overload

[drifting gust]

I have it but don't use it

[simple frost]

are there any heavy blades better than it

?

[drifting gust]

sarofang prime is a good option I think

its new and I've heard good things about it

[subtle solstice]

can i still take the gram prime to endgame?

[violet silo]

...wait what

is that sacrificial pressure or steel?

[drifting gust]

you can take anything

[subtle solstice]

yay!

[drifting gust]

the crimes I've seen being commited by a stug are immesurable

[violet silo]

exec, I'd assume

[subtle solstice]

hey @drifting gust and @violet silo is this graphic up to date?

[violet silo]

its about to commit a lot more

[violet silo]

should be, whats up

[drifting gust]

yeah why?

[drifting gust]

😨

[subtle solstice]

ah i suppose you're right. I found a scaffold that i thought was new but it just looks different. It's still in the chart

[violet silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/158797316709416960/1419561409846579301/get-stick-bugged-lol-stick-bug-ezgif.com-crop.gif

[subtle solstice]

i wonder why they look like that

[violet silo]

stug incarnon coming soon

[drifting gust]

I've seen a stug deal -2 billion damage once(it was a bug but still)

secondary enervate was bugged and it stacked with operator amp shooting, so the guy just stacked enervate to like 24000% and shot the stug

[subtle solstice]

i might go with 477 when i can afford it

[prime scarab]

Okay, I am REALLY loving Frost. Spamming 4 to stack Overguard on everyone is really fun and its exactly what I was looking for in an ETA tank frame. I have Burston on him right now and it is crushing single targets BUT are there any secondaries that can do a good job of aoe mobbing?

Ideally I'd press 4 to freeze people and then fire my secondary and have that nuke whats left around. Anything that would fit there?

[keen rune]

first time messaging in this server so not sure if this is the right place but pls help, which should i keep? its for the kompressa prime

[violet silo]

could try torx

[compact cypress]

so like is this shit
is vortex on whipclaw the move or what

[drifting gust]

akarius prime

[drifting gust]

pretty sure yes if youre doing a farming settup with pilfering strangledome

[prime scarab]

Torx might be really fun given Frost already being cold themed.

Akarius is really good idea too, thanks for the suggestions!

I think I might do Torxica, the frost spores sounds really really thematic

[carmine ember]

Pressure bro

[velvet pulsar]

Synoid Gammacor incarnon

Because it's a cold AoE which increases frost's energy max

[prime scarab]

Oh nice, I'm scheduled to pick up the gammacor incarnon next week anyway

[velvet pulsar]

Fitting both thematically and functionally

[violet silo]

I take it you dont have influence?

to start, swap gladiator might for galv steel

[carmine ember]

Thank man,how about weeping wound

[violet silo]

over organ shatter

[violet silo]

why does the build keep changing 😭

[prime scarab]

Huh. I was unaware of the Entropy effect. Am I reading it correctly that I functionally will regen a small chunk of energy every 30 seconds in steel path, since I'll easily be hitting 1k affinity there?

[violet silo]

wait you do have melee arcanes... put influence on that

or careen

[carmine ember]

Thank man

[velvet pulsar]

Yup

[prime scarab]

Yeah, that sounds perfect.

[solar reef]

only use influence if you've modded for electricity

[velvet pulsar]

And increased maximum energy

[prime scarab]

Hm. Maybe I'll drop flow then and put battery on instead, free up a mod slot.

This is a good one, appreciate the tip!

[velvet pulsar]

Though the energy max increment from syndicate effects scale with unranked stat so the total value won't be too big but it's still nice

[prime scarab]

Yeah I was reading that. 10 is better than 0, even

[violet silo]

tru

[solar reef]

just finished watching Bogonia

[prime scarab]

And I think I'm gonna be running Steadfast in the other slot so I don't super need the extra

[solar reef]

phenomenal movie

[prime scarab]

I liked it all except for like

last 10 minutes

Was a tad too predictable

[solar reef]

||them being an alien? yeah||

[prime scarab]

Yeah exactly. Other than that? Master acting. Jesse Plemons deserves way more work.

[solar reef]

but the build up to it was great, and I wwasnt expecting them to like

do what they did at the end, you know?

[prime scarab]

Yeah 100%, it was a great movie just a tiny bit of ham at the end

And given what else we've gotten recently? I'll take a bit of ham

[solar reef]

Emma Stone really just does a great job in niche scifi movies

[prime scarab]

She has the perfect "Confused as hell but going with it anyway" acting tbh

She's really great at fish out of water stuff

[solar reef]

also yeah Jessy Plemons is kinda slept on

I still remember him in Breaking Bad

[prime scarab]

Yeah I knew when he hit Todd back in breaking bad he was a damn good actor

He's got the perfect manic smile

[solar reef]

awkward evil

[prime scarab]

I wanna see him in an american horror story setting

[solar reef]

kind of how i describe his characters

like I like actors that are really really good at portraying the same character in different situations

like all of his characters have the same general personality

[prime scarab]

Yeah, same, but they have to actually iterate on it and not just like

The Rock

[solar reef]

another reason Jake Gyllenhaal is GOATed

hes sort of in the same boat

[prime scarab]

yeah brokeback mountain is the same as mysterio I see it

[solar reef]

every one of his characters is just a slightly quirked up white guy who's satirically polite, but is like lowkey nuts

Donnie Darko? Mysterio? Danny Sharp?

all the same personalty intrinsically

[prime scarab]

I get what you're saying and I don't fundamentally disagree but the idea that you're describing the man who played prince of persia is hilarious

"The prince of persia was played by a quirked up white boy who is satircally polite but lowkey nuts" is so funny

[solar reef]

its also just weird that hes played as a professional mma fighter, not once, but twice, and as two different characters

[prime scarab]

those felt like a vanity project anyway tbh

[subtle solstice]

is fire rate optional?

[solar reef]

idk apparently he was super into Southpaw when he filmed that

[subtle solstice]

i see. What about more than 1 fire rate mod?

[solar reef]

you should always have at least one way to improve your fire rate or attack speed

[solar reef]

you shouldnt need more than one source

[subtle solstice]

i see.

i was debating on it for the trumna. It's very slow firing. Thought about doing 2 builds. One with max fire rate, and 1 with no fire rate. Could still do one with something in between

[prime scarab]

Fire rate CAN be replaced by multishot in some builds

Just depends what you're doing

[subtle solstice]

it sucks that i cant do more than one and have it still be viable. Trumna has so many rounds to work with

[prime scarab]

probably just vile accel for shotguns tbh

[solar reef]

you'd just want a single fire rate mod (either primed shred or vile acceleration)

[solar reef]

depending on the frame you could drop it all together (wisp, volt, harrow)

didnt mean to reply

[prime scarab]

You're fine lmao

[subtle solstice]

is more than one fire rate mod at least viable on high ammo economy weapons like the truma? this thing never runs out of ammo

[solar reef]

i mean you could theres just no point

you reach diminishing returns

https://overframe.gg/build/760013/trumna-prime/trumna-prime-general-use-and-variants/

[fierce lark]

personally i would use apt over serration

[solar reef]

if you have a primer companion its definitely the better mod to use

its also one of the few weapons where its aoe is affacted by Aptitude

[subtle solstice]

i see

[fierce lark]

even without a primer, stacked crux + apt + tox mod is 183% status chance, before multishot and with 8+ fire rate

you're almost perma having 3+ statuses on gapt innately

[solar reef]

as a final note, I really do NOT recommend getting a riven for it.

[subtle solstice]

why not?

[solar reef]

the prime sits at 0.65x dispo

[fierce lark]

trumna prime has 0.65 riven dispo, you'll spend a lot of kuva before you get a riven worth slotting

[solar reef]

you'd need a really good status roll to justify using it for a tiny, tiny increase in performance

[fierce lark]

and even if you get one, the low dispo will make the riven fairly low value vs rolling on a weapon with higher dispo

[subtle solstice]

oh well duh i guess that was a no brainer. I'm a goof

[fierce lark]

same reason why laetum and similar weapons have fairly cheap rivens despite being very powerful and very popular

[solar reef]

hell the regular trumna's only at 0.85x

things like laetum and kuva nukor or notorious noobie traps for rivens

[velvet pulsar]

After a careful consideration I've DEcided not to farm Boltor Prime and build Telos Boltor instead.

[fierce lark]

since someone wanted to be weird about glory yesterday

nvm server doesn't accept streamable links and i dont have nitro, cba

[novel bear]

I can make glory hit perma red crits
I just change crit color to red

[storm rain]

Is this a good build for Garuda talons?
I'm planning on replacing pressure point with sacrificial pressure in the near future

[fierce lark]

what do you subsume over on atlas, 2?

[novel bear]

Yeah

Or 4

[fierce lark]

does path of statues aug let you ignore ever pressing 3/4?

[novel bear]

No

Path of statues is pretty inconsistent

3 is much better

[fierce lark]

hm

not worth running then?

or can it at least maintain upkeep above 1400?

[novel bear]

Not worth running imo

[digital gate]

Updated Saryn build.

She is absolutely insane. Definitely the best Defense frame. Wipes out an entire wave with one cast.

[fierce lark]

run an aura that matches until you can forma it once so you can switch it

[digital gate]

The +9 to my capacity isn't really worth the trade off imo.

[green gyro]

what😭

[digital gate]

My matching auras just don't compare.

[green gyro]

just use 1 forma dude

growing power isn't doing anything particularly useful anyway

[prime scarab]

whats a forma dude

[novel bear]

Don’t even use the forma on the aura slot

[prime scarab]

Is that like an alpha male?

[green gyro]

ye just forma something else

and move the polarity

[novel bear]

Use it somewhere else, and then swap the continuity polarity on

[fierce lark]

muhform

[digital gate]

I just don't have any reason to change it. She works perfectly fine. I don't need that extra capacity.

Like I can wait until I polarized it.

And she's not max rank so I can't forma yet.

[fierce lark]

i mostly meant so you can slot something else for qol, ie stretch

if you're gonna build any range on saryn you may as well go full 265/280

spore saryn doesn't really care about strength anyways

[digital gate]

This isn't my end build. She's not maxed out yet anyways. This is just me playing around getting a feel for her.

I'm still going to buy mods specifically for her build too.

[fierce lark]

you could forma over the aura, the only other useful thing i can think of that matches polarity is catalyzing shields, if you want to shieldgate

adaptation sucks and saryn has 2 for status cleanse, doesn't need rolling guard as much

[digital gate]

I'm definitely focusing on a spore build with her.

[fierce lark]

i have this titled as spore build but it's more hybrid tbh

[digital gate]

Archon Continuity is definitely going on the list.

[solar reef]

spore builds are really just weapon builds with range

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-shush-quiet-be-quiet-gif-6099369941990730874

it all returns to sobek

[fierce lark]

lol

yeah kinda

they're mostly for map strip

why is there a build called "gate" that's literally just the 34 range platformer build with nira's mods 💀

[gray quarry]

You like gating off a small door

[solar reef]

i exclusively build for weapons and I dont even use the sobek

im such a larper

[fierce lark]

i mean same

[solar reef]

i only use her with Vortex Ichor

[fierce lark]

i just use phenmor on saryn these days

if im using a weapon that uses crit im playing dagath usually

[solar reef]

recently I've been using Vortex Viciss, which is much better budget Ichor than I thought

[chrome badge]

ive been using doughty anku as of late

feels like a better hate incarnon

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/no-cat-gif-7563893349645696924

[chrome badge]

https://tenor.com/view/goma-cat-nod-gif-10363630855706579942

[digital gate]

I mostly play defense so that's why Saryn appeals to me. But she's really only good at that one thing. If there's not a map full of enemies she's wasted.

[solar reef]

gets mauled in the heavy debate and lets be so for real it doesnt compare in the lightspam category either

[solar reef]

??????????

Saryn is quite literally the best weapons platformer in the entire game

[digital gate]

Her strength scales with enemies

[chrome badge]

her strength scales with strength

[solar reef]

why are we larping

her strength scales with strength

also, once again, shes the best weapons plagtformer in the game

she scales as well as her weapons do

[digital gate]

The more enemies there are the more damage she deals. Unless I'm missing something.

[solar reef]

i mean kind of but thats how ever warframe works

more enemies = more numbers

[digital gate]

That's definitely not how they all work.

[solar reef]

hell her best set up doesnt care about any aoe abilities in her kit

its just toxic lash + augment

[fierce lark]

saryn has the single strongest set of buffs in the game, more or less

[digital gate]

I haven't messed with toxic leash much.

[chrome badge]

i have neg range on my saryn and just dur + str

with roar on her 4

[fierce lark]

toxic lash is fundamentally the most broken buff in the game and it’s actually just not close

[solar reef]

Toxic Lash is quite literally the strongest damage ability in the game, because it isnt a damage ability and it outperforms every actual damage ability

[dense belfry]

Kind of curious because im kinda a wee bit dumb but
Is there a diffrence to the damage increase of roar and eclipse? They seem to give the same effect

[chrome badge]

its also really strong as a melee buff

[solar reef]

roar functions as a final damage multiplier/additive to faction mods

[fierce lark]

for exactly that reason, you get to subsume roar alongside it, and roar triple dips lash dot and lash damage is doubled on melees and has insanely high base damage as is

[solar reef]

eclipse functions as modded damage/additive to damage mods

[fierce lark]

eclispe is final damage

[solar reef]

is it?

[fierce lark]

yeah

[mighty flare]

no

[solar reef]

i thought eclipse was additive

[digital gate]

My toxic lash doesn't do much because of my build. I'mma make a second one to fiddle with that a ability more

[solar reef]

i havent touched it since they changed it away from lighting

[mighty flare]

never was

[fierce lark]

but eclipse doesn’t double dip dots, and it’s like 15% effectiveness when subsumed

iirc mirage eclipse is 200% base and subsumed eclipse is 30% same as roar

[solar reef]

last time i used eclipse, it still snapshotted light setting on invis frames

https://tenor.com/view/evil-superman-gif-632723218522114279

[dense belfry]

So for someone like valkyr, what would be better?

[fierce lark]

lol subsumed eclipse just works off of emissive now iirc

or maybe it’s a hold/tap?

idk ive never used it

[solar reef]

roar more than likely as her claws dont double dip afaik

[dense belfry]

Eclipse works as it does on mirage just the increase of stats is diminished

[fierce lark]

roar is just always better than eclipse unless you’re using glaives/contagion, i believe

[digital gate]

So does ability strength actually have much play on Toxic Lash? I'm seeing somewhere it does a percentage of weapon power.

[fierce lark]

or if you’re using a bane mod

[mighty flare]

its hold/tap

[solar reef]

strength increases that amount

[fierce lark]

base for lash is 60% iirc? or 70? somewhere around there

it just goes up relative with strength

[digital gate]

So the extra damage (26%) is a percentage of weapon damage?

[gray quarry]

It’s mukti?

[mighty flare]

yes

[gray quarry]

[dense belfry]

Ah okay
I wanted to know because i want to apply roar to both my kullervo and valkyr

Final damage multi seems a lot better

[solar reef]

imo its just not necessary

[dense belfry]

Its not but i dont plan to use either of their 3s

[gray quarry]

It is

[solar reef]

for valkyr i'd just throw pull over her current grouping ability or shock

[digital gate]

Is that % modifier referring to the percentage of your weapons damage?

[solar reef]

it does a second instance of damage that is a % of final damage delt

[fierce lark]

so there are three kinds of weapon buffs typically. base damage, elemental damage, and final damage

toxic lash is in the 3rd category, which is as strong as a buff can get.

it also applies a forced toxin proc, which scales the same way a toxin dot normally does (your modded base damage + elemental damage + faction damage + other multipliers)

but it also double-dips on many of those factors because the damage that procs it is based on the total damage of your shot

as such, it triple dips roar and other faction damage multipliers

[solar reef]

mind you, its not coded as a damage buffing ability, so you can use it with roar/xatas/eclipse as well

[fierce lark]

and also

toxin is the only elemental dot with an archon shard that directly buffs its damage, which is shared with "status damage" mods (elementalist)

meaning saryn/oraxia can feed directly into their main buff with green shards

[violet silo]

wrathful’s probably better

[violet silo]

why pull

[fierce lark]

but unlike oraxia, saryn can subsume roar with hers

[violet silo]

or shock for that matter

[solar reef]

more consistant grouping

[solar reef]

shock + shock trooper

[fierce lark]

ripline is pretty consistent

[violet silo]

how so

[violet silo]

shock trooper doesn’t work on exalted

[fierce lark]

also ripline has a lot more range than subsumed pull iirc

[solar reef]

does it?

[solar reef]

wait what

thats so lame

[mint shore]

Should i put this on follie?
Or put a second violet shard on alternatively

[dense belfry]

I dont have it yet, sadly.
Im either getting a 2nd kullervo sometime or im waiting for his prime so i can finally leave normal kullervo to rest

[fierce lark]

uhhhh nah, pull is slightly bigger

but ripline has the added mobility and also does a melee attack during its animation

[mighty flare]

no

[novel bear]

Pull is still kind of inconsistent too

[solar reef]

i dont play valkyr anyways, but her kit seems pretty put together
so i'd rather just have more range instead

she already does plenty of damage as is

[mighty flare]

nah, which violet

[solar reef]

WA/Roar/Xatas just looks like shits and giggles

[fierce lark]

280 range riplining around the map is fun

[mint shore]

Ability damage, i'm not using melee

all of them are tauforged

[solar reef]

i guess theres also lycaths hunt but does she even have energy problems

[mighty flare]

for arc traps? just stick to violet

[mint shore]

alr

[novel bear]

A bit

[mint shore]

I just thought 1 green 1 purple would be nice since all of follie moves do corrosive

[mighty flare]

they dont apply corrosive

[violet silo]

at low levels I sometimes get them

[novel bear]

Summoning things does
The splash
Low range though

[mint shore]

Oh so just corrosive damage

Gurarararara

[novel bear]

Oh no procs

[mighty flare]

?

[solar reef]

why do you need 359% strength on follie

[mint shore]

I like big numbers

[novel bear]

Thought she did corrosive procs

[solar reef]

her 2 doesnt scale with strength

[mighty flare]

she does not

[mint shore]

4 does

[novel bear]

4 is clunky
And 2 does bigger damage

[solar reef]

seems super inefficient
her 4th doesnt do enough damage to warrant building around that

[mint shore]

I just like the 'loons

[fierce lark]

phallie

[mint shore]

Should it be duration then

[solar reef]

so just build for as much range as possible

[mighty flare]

dont need much of that either

[solar reef]

just build enough strength to full strip and then invest into range

[novel bear]

I like duration for her 2 for if you get a bad disruption map

[solar reef]

i'd imagine primed/archon continuity is all thats needed

[wary forge]

It does corrosive damage doesn’t actually apply corrosive procs

[mint shore]

Hrm

[mighty flare]

wouldnt reccomend using balloons with arc traps

[solar reef]

i wish her baloons did damage vulnerability instead of armor strip

[mint shore]

I'll probably
put a third violet then

[solar reef]

just use 5 parkour shards

[mint shore]

No i love her slow and fat

[mint shore]

Any nice arcanes i should put on for arc traps?

[wary forge]

Strength

More so to boost roar tho

[mighty flare]

impetus/molt are fine, nothing much to directly boost them besides more strength for a subsume like roar

[solar reef]

none that directly buff it

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-12361655654679969287

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/so-much-fun-it's-a-crime-walter-nelson-minions-yuorki-yuorki1-gif-8369629548157395193

[mint shore]

If DE was evil they'd add melee influence on warframes

[mighty flare]

there's also #1487164102379049051 message
if you wanna look at examples on follie

[solar reef]

Fangs of Raksh (kind of)

[mint shore]

I'm just interested in seeing why so many people say that arc trap follie is op

[solar reef]

because it scales with enemy level

[mighty flare]

slightly incorrect but sure

[solar reef]

i mean thats the only reason i'd consider that good

infinitely scaling abilities like that are just innately strong

[mighty flare]

arc traps scale with overall ehp (health+armor), so they'll always do good damage
they have a second trait where armor stripping after they're attacking an enemy deals more damage than armor stripping beforehand

[solar reef]

is that intentional

[mighty flare]

its how its coded to work

[solar reef]

thats kinda funny

is that the only gimmicky instance where her 4 actually plays into her 2's damage?

[latent crater]

How did u get these archonts frag?

[mighty flare]

armor strip is nice for rpg

[solar reef]

thats a cheat answer but I guess 😭

[mighty flare]

issue with arc trap is that will 4 will drag enemies out of their range
arc trap will still try to attack enemies like they're in range and use their charges

[solar reef]

ive seen more and more follies subsuming over her 4 rather than her 3

for that exact reason

[mighty flare]

it also drags enemies out of death orb range and even barrels too

[solar reef]

oddly enough as time goes on i see more and more follies on my cascade runs
I'd thought it would be the opposite

[mint shore]

You can combine blu and red for purple

Otherwise its either netracells or twitch

[mighty flare]

never understood why de made it work like it does
pretty disappointing ability

[solar reef]

armor stripping ability that wants strength, on a frame that's main damage focus doesnt scale off of strength in any way and also, for the most part, doesnt benefit from armor strip

with the added effect of pulling enemies out of range for said damage focus whilst also annoying the shit out of your squad mates

[mint shore]

I think if her arc trap could pop the balloon

Or it's range could be upgraded to hit ballooned enemies

Its strange that her 2 gets no benefits from ability boosts at all

[solar reef]

not really

[mighty flare]

one of balloons main issue is how restricted you are in options to pop them

[solar reef]

it already scales with enemy level/ehp

the idea is they dont want to add strength into that mix because it leads to stupid kpm and bogus results

(best example of this would be sevagoth)

[mint shore]

They don't want allat yet still have sevagoth and torid incarnon here

Kill both

[solar reef]

torid incarnon isnt that big of an issue

[mint shore]

i think electricity should be able to pop balloons

or electrify the balloons

[solar reef]

its not even the best ad-clear weapon

its just s super effective generalist weapon

[green gyro]

sevagoth is super high investment

And is pretty annoying to play

[solar reef]

no more than any other warframe atp
its just a subsume

[green gyro]

no it's not

[solar reef]

also how is it annoying? you just press two buttons

[green gyro]

yes exactly, you have to spam 21 the entire time

[mint shore]

How should you approach it then

[green gyro]

if you stop you die

[mint shore]

First drop arc trap and then balloon, or use any other armor strip

[solar reef]

thats not annoying thats just boring

[solar reef]

also this isnt true

[green gyro]

nice distinction bro good convo

[solar reef]

a dog or shade solves 90% of his survival issues

and on the off chance you do die you have self-res with sevagoth

[green gyro]

which is actually annoying

last gasp is better

[solar reef]

even then its still just a "dont die" tool

is it the best? no! but its still there

and you shouldnt be there anyways or its a fat skill issue

just augur + shade/dog

[frozen grail]

question for the riven enthusiasts here, im a huge coda pathocyst fan which has a 1 dispo, if i get a god roll riven is it worth slotting over a normal mod or does that low dispo make it pointless?

[mighty flare]

preplace arc trap then armor strip

[solar reef]

1????

its has a 0.65 dispo

[frozen grail]

oh i mean like 1 bubble filled in

but yeah that

[solar reef]

and yeah, it would be next to impossible to justify slotting a riven over it unless its a status roll

[placid seal]

Hellos

[frozen grail]

so if i got a status roll it might be worth slotting? like the perfect stats and everything

[solar reef]

i mean it would have to be unique to your setup

tldr its not worth the hastle

[frozen grail]

do they plan on increasing riven dispo for any of the coda weapons theyve been out for a while now?

[solar reef]

you'd be wasting shit loads of kuva for a tiny tiny increase in performance

[mighty flare]

👋

[solar reef]

they increase them by 0.000001 every three billion years (only on the weapons you dont want an increase on)

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a high index xoris build and is the tenet glaxion good for high index?

[hexed lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-issue-urge-resist-skill-issue-resist-urge-urge-resist-gif-3380469227613787388

[mint shore]

Oh yeah i forgot to actually ask, roar buffs 2?

[mighty flare]

yes

[mint shore]

Oh wth

I'm not a fan of subsuming honestly because it takes away from frame kits
but if i get bored i might check that out

[fierce lark]

most frames have at least 1 ability that adds nothing of value anyway

[vale abyss]

so how would you place voruna prime pack at a scale from 1 to 10 (kinda want plats more but would be nice to get some okay prime too)

[tidal parrot]

just wanted to ask again since hopefully some of the people here who know zaws better than me can help, any of these zaws stand out majorly with rivens or not really? (only have the dokrahm leveld cuz it had alr stats and is the only zaw i have rn)

[solar reef]

we'll ignore the frame itself because ultimately we dont buy prime packs for the frame

A: Do you need the plat?
B: Do you like the accessories?
C: Is it worth the comical amounts of money

[fierce lark]

the only other zaw i know of that’s intentionally used is balla for pt

[frozen grail]

when the stug incarnon releases will its riven dispo be reset to minimum?

[solar reef]

if you dont like these accessories and dont need the plat its not worth it

[fierce lark]

https://tenor.com/view/gtasa-grand-theft-auto-gta-san-andreas-gta-gif-gta-one-liners-gif-17468214

[solar reef]

imo its like a 7/10 access accessories wise

[violet silo]

no

[solar reef]

no

this has never been done before

[frozen grail]

bet

[solar reef]

why would they do it now

[violet silo]

why do you think incarnon rivens are worth so much

[hexed lodge]

Many popular incarnons still have a low high dispo nowdays, so most likely not

[frozen grail]

i didnt know if that was something theyve done thank you!

[solar reef]

its why things like burston rivens and torid rivens are still 250-400 plat at trash price

[graceful plank]

which one should I go with?

[solar reef]

right no questions asked

its just a better voltaic strike

[graceful plank]

cool thanks

[hexed lodge]

i would go left cause i'm a crescendo sucker
right

[solar reef]

rolling for venka is definitely a choice

[graceful plank]

Im using it and Ive got one so why not

[solar reef]

if you're die hard I guess lol

[pearl tusk]

Someone play vauban ?

[violet silo]

@opal leaf

[fierce lark]

what the hell lol

which ones?

the zariman ones don't count because they released with the incarnon installed

[violet silo]

I think they meant high dispo

[fierce lark]

oh maybe

i hope so lmao

[hexed lodge]

correct, i am indeed very stoopid

[fierce lark]

yeah

don't make me get sky to piss on you

[hexed lodge]

sorry mom

[vale abyss]

• not like need need but would see some stuff to buy pretty quickly
• it looks okay but isnt that big of a deal
• i hope it is, I could get probably just a -75% deal but checking if its worth getting the prime there too

[fierce lark]

prime access is mostly for supporting the devs

[solar reef]

the prime itself is down to 70 plat and will continue to go down in price

it can also be earned for free

base the value of prime access packs solely on that which has to be paid for

[fierce lark]

i've never needed to buy plat personally, but with how good the game is at supporting a f2p model, im never gonna discourage someone from spending money

[old charm]

Its also a relatively good and dependable way to get a decent price on platinum

It has since the very first one, the founders pack

[solar reef]

the last prime access i bought that i genuinely thought was worth it was sevagoths

i dont use the armor out of any other recent one

best signa in the game no bars

[old charm]

I bought a ton of them over the years, even the very first few of them. Haven’t wanted to for a long time from not needing plat and it being more economical to simply buy the prime parts day 1 than the prime access pack itself

[solar reef]

of all the prime access/accessories ive bought-
I only use edo and the plume

single best accessory in the game

[old charm]

Yeah and also, the royal aya system makes buying the prime accessory only good if you’re like REALLY into the current ones for Voruna

[vale abyss]

its mostly for the plats but when included its nice to get a good/fun warframe and weapons

[old charm]

I almost bought the Gauss Prime one for the shoulder cosmetics, but I figured I’d wait for the Royal Aya system and immediately bought it with 2 I had from last year’s tennocon digital pass

[celest moss]

What's good for a Kuva Bramma riven? No intention to sell, I just LOVE the Kuva Bramma and want to get a good roll on it

[solar reef]

just understand that even a "good" riven for Kuva Bramma is unslottable

[celest moss]

How so?

[solar reef]

a godroll riven for it makes it better in such a minor amount that you would never notice

[solar reef]

riven disposition is in the gutters

[fierce lark]

disposition bad

[celest moss]

Oh

Man, that sucks, I was so happy to get it

[tame storm]

Does riven disposition improve?

[solar reef]

rarely and when it does its by negligable amounts

[tame storm]

Huh

[celest moss]

So, it would be better to not use it?

[solar reef]

DE improves the dispo for like 15-25 weapons every major update and its usually not for a weapon you'd want to get an improvement. It's also only by 0.05-0.10

there are weapons that have been out for 4-5 years at this point, have sucked for all 4-5 years, and still have dispos at like 0.7

DE doesnt really understand how to properly adjust riven dispositions to begin with, if it weren't for the community outlash they'd get, rivens would be removed from the game entirely

they kind of hate rivens

[opal leaf]

Yo sup, any help?

Needed?

[solar reef]

i mean if you got the perfect roll you could use it

its just that the improvement would be so minute that its likely not worth the kuva you'd put into it

other than just saying "look I have a godroll for my favorite weapon!"-
there isnt much point

I wish the riven disposition system was better explained, it causes new players quite a bit of grief and frusturation when they get it explained here

[cerulean canopy]

Just got Yareli Prime, what mods and stuff are best?

[solar reef]

Most importantly, they should do away with blips and show the actual disposition multiplier

[pearl tusk]

Yoo i dm you i really need help like really please 🙏🏻

[opal leaf]

Gotcha

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a good tenet glaxion build? i wanna use it on the index

[errant trellis]

gonna add a riven after i get a good roll but im not sure if i should build the balla with different parts

[prime scarab]

Alright, so I'm about 55% with my Frost build.

Mods are good, weapons are picked, arcanes are...still up in the air. Companion has been almost thought about.

What are everyone's favorite subsumes on him? It seems Breach Surge is pretty popular. Anyone tried anything else?

[brittle iron]

am i doing this right

[deep grotto]

Iirc staff/polearm balla is the best

Idk what the korb is

[brittle iron]

i did 460k in one shot so i think i am

[wary forge]

Cannonade

[fierce lark]

cannonade

[brittle iron]

it works

i just hit 4 million with it

[wary forge]

Coda baso already has super slow fr

[hollow scarab]

ok so quick question. if im going for a tenet weapon thats kinda marksman esq what would be a good pick? tryna do a thing with like a longer range precise primary and shorter range fast secondary with the diplos but i have no idea whats a good primary for that

from tenet

cuz i got the glaxion, envoy, and tetra rn

[abstract axle]

evrerything works in warframe, its about optimal picks. two raw damage mods means diminishing returns

so either ppb or cannonade has to go

also no way tac pump slots

[wary forge]

Tac pump isn’t terrible I don’t run it but u can def slot it

It’s 2.5 reload it’s not like plasmor 3.5

[wary forge]

In terms of like a dmr/sniper there really isn’t a tennet primary

That’s like that

[hollow scarab]

yeah im noticing. guess ill just flip it with the plains setup and go precise primary fast 2ndary on the plans and the inverse on the valis

probably will go with the flux or the tetra

for like an AR

did bro get hacked lol

does anyone have a good steel path tenet tetra build?

[lost hull]

Hey mods, we need some buckshot for a profile over here

[versed harbor]

gotta beg DE for tenet lanka basically

[novel bear]

If you’re ok with other lich weapons, there’s always the sporothrix

[leaden thistle]

Snipetron Vandal :)

[elfin sluice]

cries in wishing for tenet ambassador

[novel bear]

Never gonna happen

[elfin sluice]

let it happen

the sisters of parvos are literally parvos' ambassadors

[novel bear]

Can’t
Not with the skin

[elfin sluice]

i'm sure that the community would accept a weapon being named tenet ambassador even with that overlap.
or do you mean that that skin was the answer to that wish?

[novel bear]

I mean they won’t make it because the skin exists

They’ve already said so

[proven bough]

Yo chat whats the best melee i can use with kullervo like nuke and quick

[elfin sluice]

harmony for single-target, corufell/syam for aoe

all heavy attack builds

for light attack stuff, whichever reaches furthest and hits the most at once. haven't tried it but nami's incarnon seems like a good candidate, and can attest to venato prime being decent