builds-discussion

[wary forge]

It does

[worthy siren]

Ignore the build, I am using Valkyr damage is irrelevant

[fierce lark]

crushing ruin or w/e

[wary forge]

You can look up on the wiki to see for sure it’s a slam in a combo

Like i said its not reslly worth it to build into like dont use seismic rain unless ur doing a heavy slam build

[fierce lark]

i would run anguish on valkyr tbh

if you wanted more heavy damage for acolytes or something

it's taking the cunning/power drift slot and who doesn't like parkour velocity

[wary forge]

She already just melts everything with light spam and influence I mean sure if you want more heavy attack dmg just go like killing blow or something

[fierce lark]

killing blow is additive, slam mods are multi

[solar reef]

what if if instead of of Slam Valkyr you played dual toxocyst evade harrow

that would be cool i think

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-cute-cat-cat-meme-smiling-gif-10086598795453609558

[fierce lark]

what if instead of typing this message you stubbed your toe

[odd coyote]

bonjour, ou est ce que je peux trouver le mod "élémentaliste galvanisé" ? svp

[solar reef]

i dont think that would be very cool

[worthy siren]

Ew

[solar reef]

i think

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cuneiform-the-mole-people-secret-message-magnifying-glass-ruins-gif-18789072

[worthy siren]

Also, not slam Valkyr. Just regular Valkyr

[fierce lark]

it's not even slam valkyr, her tennokai heavy just is a slam

[wary forge]

Valk slam would prob work I guess

[worthy siren]

The melee is just for fun since funny skin.

[odd coyote]

Hi everyone, i'm looking for "Galvanized Elementalist". where i have to go ? plz

[worthy siren]

Relay

Arbiters of Hexis

[fierce lark]

Arbitre du Hexis, dans ans tous les relais

[worthy siren]

I randomly had 6 melee arcanes I don't even know how or when I got them all. I did use them all up on random useless weapons though :p

[odd coyote]

ok thx

[naive hinge]

what build for syam with this riven ?

[prime scarab]

Alright, I'm working my way through the frames that can steel path with mostly abilities.

So far I've got a build set up for Atlas, Follie, Grendel, Hildryn, Mesa, Mirage, Nokko, Octavia, Sevagoth, Titania, and Vauban.

What are some other fun ability spammers in high level content?

[static sphinx]

How good is Gyre overall, and is there a warframe that outclasses her in the thing she's best at?

[prime scarab]

What is the thing you're suggesting she is best at?

She's a good frame, sure, definitely solid and easy, but the question you've got there is pretty broad.

[thorn spindle]

I don't have Hammer Shot, what good mod can I use to replace it?

[prime scarab]

Something that gives either crit dmg or status chance, depending on which you need more of.

I knows thats a pretty generic answer but its really that simple

Hammer Shot is good because of t he two desirable stats on one card

[thorn spindle]

in dera incarnon Which would be the best?

[prime scarab]

Brother I just told you

Whichever you need more of

[mighty flare]

She’s okay, but outclassed in both aspects of platforming and as a caster

[prime scarab]

Her aesthetics and style are pretty unmatched tho

Her dodge is #1 in the game imo

[static sphinx]

I'm not sure. Every warframe technically can be used for everything, but I doubt that there's a single warframe that is so well-rounded to be equally good/bad in everything. Some warframes have obvious advantages, but Gyre doesn't seem to be one of them. I got an answer while writing this, so I guess it doesn't matter.

[prime scarab]

Plenty of frames are equally good at everything

[solar reef]

arguably none

[prime scarab]

Further, Meats didn't say she wouldn't be good in everything.

[solar reef]

Heavy efficiency doesnt matter, since it wants Galv Reflex anyways

[naive hinge]

?

[solar reef]

Half the Damage of PPP so its nor slottable there

and -SD is a huge yuck

[prime scarab]

Your question was "is she best at it" and that is not the same question as "can she do it successfully".

[worthy siren]

PPP?

[prime scarab]

pressure point

[solar reef]

Primed Pressure Point

[worthy siren]

oh

[prime scarab]

The really funny thing is that Gyre actually IS one of the frames that is most well rounded

[gray quarry]

Pressure point pknightmareframe

[solar reef]

Basically, that roll isnt slottable

[prime scarab]

All the weapons platforms frames are pretty well rounded

[solar reef]

You’d want to reroll it

[worthy siren]

Did ya'll know if you got all those Tau you can remove Organ Shatter since you'd do more damage without it?

[static sphinx]

I like her steampunk skin and want to buy it, but I don't want to waste platinum just to be disappointed by underperforming warframe. I guess it should clarify my slightly unreasonable and weird questions.

[prime scarab]

Nobody said she was underperforming.

You're literally just deciding that because someone said there was a potentially stronger option.

[gray quarry]

Yeah but crit damage is funny

[static sphinx]

Because I don't know better

[solar reef]

IMO the best in-slot riven for Syam is either Heat,Tox,AS/-Puncture or Heat,Cold,AS/-Puncture

[naive hinge]

but what can i build it?

[prime scarab]

???? Then why make the decision like you did??? "I got my answer"

[solar reef]

I wouldnt even use that riven in ANY build

[prime scarab]

Okay, man, you have fun lmao

[solar reef]

too much demerit for not enough gain

[prime scarab]

Anyway Gyre is sick hope everyone else enjoys her

[gray quarry]

She’s quite good, every frame covers a niche. She can run through most missions mostly braindead(quite literally running through)

[static sphinx]

Alright.

[worthy siren]

Yeah, but crit damage do more damage if you remove organ shatter (if you have all Tau)

[solar reef]

Organ Shatter is better slotted off for more raw damage in most cases if you have 4-5 tau purples

[hearty otter]

Which one? My build has crit decel so I already got +200% cc

[solar reef]

right

you’ll probably run Corro Blast anyways

[hearty otter]

Ok thanks

[solar reef]

does Proj Speed even affect its incarnon since its a beam

[hearty otter]

I don’t think so

Just the normal mode

[gray quarry]

-projectile speed is funny

[static sphinx]

Apologies for being too hesitant. Because of my hesitation it's easier to disagree with the idea that she's great than agreeing with it. I've changed my mind though.

[solar reef]

But yeah for a corro blast build right id a phenomenal roll

[muted geyser]

Are any of harrows augments worth using?

[solar reef]

his 4th

[prime scarab]

I think more than that you need to move away from even caring if a frame is the best possible option for something.

If you min max even your frame choices before you even get to endgame you're gonna burn out

[gray quarry]

Right is still a better roll but the launcher side will take 5 business years to hit the enemy

[solar reef]

Its augment makes it so that you never have to recast it

[muted geyser]

Ah alright

[solar reef]

it plays super well with the Evade subsume

[static sphinx]

I guess it's true. 250 platinum doesn't seem to be too much anyway, especially since Gyre was my 2nd favorite frame so far.

[prime scarab]

That bit right there is the key to staying power in this game.

You think she's fun. She's one of your favorites.

Invest in that.

You'll always have a better time investing in fun.

[hearty otter]

What do I need to change around?

[worthy siren]

I am about to toss her into Herald (Helminth) this was old fashion I did what do ya'll think?

(supposed to look like bones)

[prime scarab]

it doesnt

still looks good tho

[worthy siren]

I wasn't too good at fashion back then tbh

[solar reef]

get rid of aptitude

[prime scarab]

I'm hype for the change to metal colors they mentioned

[gray quarry]

Magnetic gas?

[hearty otter]

It was different until the riven got electricity

[solar reef]

also make sure your elements are lined up properly

[gray quarry]

Swap malignant force with cryo rounds

Other than that looks fine

[hearty otter]

What do I replace it with

[solar reef]

I would use a bane but uh

oh attack speed

you have no attack speed

thats a super important stat, especially so on beams

[gray quarry]

Atk speed, def slot that in

[solar reef]

Also, to back track, do NOT use aptitude on AOE weapons

the explosions do not benefit from aptitude

[hearty otter]

?

I’m als working on upgrading my primed cryo so I can swap it out in the future

[prime scarab]

I've been reading about this actually. It looks like there is an exception with certain weapons and condition overload.

Latron Incarnon is the example I've seen

[fiery pulsar]

Sorry if this is too much of an ask but this is my first time using this channel and for the life of me cannot seem to settle on anything that works so last resort here:

I am essentially trying to make a stealth ash prime build revolved around Syam heavies and being invis, I have absolutely no problem grouping with Void snare to stack Crescendo but very conflicted also with the choice of influence.

Would anyone be able to help with kind of perfecting this? I am incredibly stuck between roar or wrathful advance as my options for precision intensify, both seem to do well but roar seems to hit much harder more consistently (no surprise)

Missing mods as i am just completely stuck atm haha, any help would be appreciated

[prime scarab]

Apparently CO doesn't apply consistently across all weapons and hits different depending on the gun

The post I was reading is a bit older so it may have been updated but I didn't see anything specifically about it in the patch notes section

[solar reef]

projectiles themselves can benefit

[prime scarab]

The Trumna is supposedly the other AoE example

I haven't tested that guy yet tho

[solar reef]

also, certain projectiles are multiplicative with Condition Overload with other damage mods rather than additive

[prime scarab]

Yeah thats what I was reading about

[solar reef]

for reference

but yes, for the most part, explosive AOE weapons do NOT benefit

[solar reef]

if its heavy spam you’re better off dropping crescendo in favor of Galvanized Reflex

keep in mind you can not use influence with Syam unless you use three status mods

You have to mod for either Gas Elec or Blast Elec, as the heavy attack has innate heat which must be counteracted to get electricity

[solar reef]

To expand on this, when you heavy attack, even with initial combo, your entire combo is consumed. It just builds back up to that initial combo in turn.
So if you’re heavy spamming, you never effectively sit at that 12X combo since it cant rebuild quick enough

so for raw damage builds you’d rather run Exposure instead

So you’d slot Galvanized Reflex (5X CM worth of Initial Combo) as that can build up just fast enough to heavy again

[fiery pulsar]

I appreciate the input, however i am aware initial combo drops every time, i can somewhat counteract that with heavy efficiency on the riven i believe, it would still be a period of waiting i know but im not necessarily looking for "spam" just something that makes the heavy hit very very hard.

I hear a lot of points on Galv reflex however i kind of want the 12x to work with blood rush and keep my crit high as can be when i do swing, do you feel reflex is more effective in terms of one heavy hitting swing?

[gray quarry]

Wdym?

[solar reef]

Its way more effective to be able to “spam” your heavies at 5x than having to and wait to get to 12x

you’ll also just be getting enough damage out of an exposure Fever Strike set up to do more damage in the end anyways

[solar reef]

multiCO, for example

[wary forge]

Heavies are way more dmg then just normal slams with 12x

[gray quarry]

the latron example specifically

[prime scarab]

Oh that was a separate aside. The AoE example was the trumna

[gray quarry]

Ah

[solar reef]

Also, if you ARE rolling syam Rivens, I would actually look for Heat, Tox, AS/-Harmless or Heat, Cold, AS/-Harmless

this is my current roll for it but im still hunting for my god roll

this would be my recommendation if you dont want to influence

If you dont like banes slot either an attack speed mod or organ shatter

Syam is multiCO anyways. You can comfortably hit 2.1B damage with it at 5x combo

You definitely do NOT need to sit at 12x combo.

[fiery pulsar]

Appreciate all the input, just quickly tried the exposure setup that you have posted and its got really good results! although the previous attempts were hitting roughly the same numbers in the end albeit less set up required for sure.

Do you have an example of the 2.1B? or are we saying it would be capable of this with frames other than ash?

[leaden thistle]

DE, Amp rivens when?

[solar reef]

Syam’s projectile is MultiCO

This means that Damage provided by Condition Overload is taken into account after other damage sources are mathed in

so when you status prime an enemy before using Syam’s heavy, it results in funny numbers

I dont have any examples outside of WA/Roar Voruna, who’s unfair to showcase with since

so I cant give you any footage that isnt somewhat skewed

just understand that when priming is involved Syam does really funny things

It would be a little more difficult to do on ash unless you have a secondary/primary status primer

realistically you’d never need to reach those numbers anyways though

[fiery pulsar]

No no, i understand it is MultiCO and i understand how this functions, currently have a hound that excels at priming enemies without any input from myself but if input is needed i can always epitath or kompressa.

Shame you dont have any examples of this without input from frames other than ash however, like i originally said, I was hoping for a little more help with him specifically but appreciate it nontheless :)

[fiery pulsar]

No of course yeah, very much overkill

[slate umbra]

Does anyone have a good build for Enkaus? Its one of if not my favorite weapon especially since I love playing Follie, Im just struggling using it on like level 30 and up :((

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/1000871/enkaus/enkaus-electric-dps/

ultimately its pretty whatever as a beam weapon

but if you want to use it i’d just follow ninjase’ set up for it

[solar reef]

if you explicitly want to make syam better on ash you’d run slot WA over his 1 or 3

thats about all you can do as far as ash himself goes as a platformer (apart from his smokescreen augment)

[slate umbra]

Ty 🙂

[solar reef]

i’d also like to add that you have two external sources of additive melee damage, so my set up may not be best choice for your specific build

[twin pulsar]

Could someone please explain why this deals so much damage while only reading about 2k (I think it's from the combo of aoe attacks being able to multihit enemies whenever they are ragdolling like they do in Zephyr's tornados)

[fresh hollow]

guys a quick question, does steel path gives more wild life markers?

[wary forge]

Tornado just that broken

Basically each tornado does what ever you shoot into it

[wary forge]

Erm what

[fresh hollow]

like the catching animal on open world thing

cause the mod that has 18% to double itens work

[wary forge]

Do they like physically drop

[fresh hollow]

no, have to pick from the body, but the mod is a loot mod and works

[dusky bane]

that's just zephyr lol

[dusky bane]

SP increases drop RATE

so no, it shouldn't affect it

[fresh hollow]

what a shame, thanks

[icy urchin]

im trying to make some kind of weapon platform nezha build for fun and i feel like i want a nice ability to subsume onto him that works with it, but i dont rlly like the vibe of running something like roar or eclipse cus they just arent very interesting to me idk what to run

[placid vale]

Can someone give me a mag prime build plsss 🥺

[icy urchin]

mainly wanted to just based off the idea of stacking 5 red archon shards on him for primary weapon status chance combined with his 4 augment to spread that status tons but idk what to put with it that still feels like a weapon platform kinda thing and doesnt feel like a pure caster kinda build cus i have 6 slots worth of that already lmao

[solar reef]

“i want a weapons platform but i dont want to run the weapons platform subsumes”

[mighty flare]

theres example in: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1489188519929970838

[icy urchin]

i want a weapon platform that feels like its actually an ability instead of just "damage bigger"

ive heard there are some situations with high strength where something like nourish can mess up like elemental weighting on weapons cant it, is shock trooper similar? cus i feel like that could work

i dont think xatas whisper would have much synergy idk what other options there even are

[wary forge]

Wdym

[icy urchin]

idk like something that has an effect that actually makes the weapon feel different in some way instead of just directly buffing the damage with no unique effects

[prime scarab]

Mirage

Mirage will let you play any gun so you can pick the ones that feel good

[icy urchin]

like idk for example wisp motes or yarelis weapon buffing where you get tons of attack speed and other buffs so it feels actually different when u use the weapon

[icy urchin]

im talking about trying to find a kinda weapon platform build for nezha specifically and if there are any subsumes that actually achieve it that im missing

[wary forge]

Nezha I guess yeah

[prime scarab]

Oh, for subsume its pretty much just roar, nourish, and xata in the common slots there.

An argument could be made that breach surge would do it too

[wary forge]

Breach surge with glaives I guess

[icy urchin]

WAIT YEAH BREACH SURGE AUGMENT

i completely forgot that i could have that on other frames thats something i wanna try actually

[prime scarab]

An underrated option is Airburst and its aug too. Way less general and pretty specific but if you're going for a secondary weapons platform its worth checking into for amazing grouping anyway

[icy urchin]

that is a nice sounding option too actually but slightly less useful with what i wanna do cus i wanna run 5 primary status chance archon shards

[prime scarab]

Yeah, its pretty niche. I only run it on Follie rn.

[icy urchin]

ive looked at most subsume abilities but idk like most of the augment mods in the game except for the few characters i play i didnt know if there was any weird stuff that i could run too

also i have airburst on follie and completely forgot about that mod xdd

[prime scarab]

Lmao

Yeah its nice! It really helps with clearing out acolytes as you push to level cap

[wary forge]

Breach surge is really good with glavies

[icy urchin]

that makes me realise i could be doing a lot more diff builds with other characters subsumes and augment mods on limbo

cus ive already been running airburst on him for some mission types and some builds so might as well throw the augment in, and ive wanted to put breach surge on him

[wary forge]

Airburst is good ye specially with the augment

[willow marten]

Anyone got a burning hate build they use with Uriel?

[prime scarab]

Does the breach surge aug even matter with subsume?

[icy urchin]

i thought it was just like for a joke for a while when people had multiple of the same frame but now im realising why people do with wanting to do diff nezha builds cus there are so many possible synergistic subsumes and archon shard combinations

[prime scarab]

Isn't it only meaningful with resorvoirs?

[icy urchin]

oh wait yeah that sucks

[prime scarab]

Volt subsume is another one the aug is pretty good for tho

[icy urchin]

yeah ive used that a tiny bit but not actually done the full build i want cus its on my caster nezha with diff archon shards lmao

does shock trooper impact elemental weighting at higher strength at all like how nourish can

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a good perigale prime i can steal for sp?

[solar reef]

yes

The only times i’d ever recommend shock trooper is if you’re using either a warframe who already had a damage buffing ability (Cyte, Rhino, Xaku) or are using a weapon that has an invasive innate element (Syam, Hate Inc)

otherwise its likely more beneficial to run Eclipse, Xatas, or Roar

[icy urchin]

im planning on using it for nezha for a build that actually uses a gun to just spread the status to everything thats speared

i actually wonder if nezha 4 augment spreads xatas whisper void damage i dont have the subsume to test how it would work or if it would even do anything useful

[civic gulch]

what do you think of these builds (second one is for using with cyte 09)

[tranquil salmon]

Yo anyone have a pure speed volt build? I wish to move at the speed of sound.

[spring sonnet]

does any1 have a good khora build for endo farm 🙂

[solar reef]

its just strength

also if your sole goal is to move fast your best bet is Titania

[wraith sinew]

Is it worth subsuming volt 1 for shock trooper onto gyre with conductive sphere for 4 extra instances of electricity?

My main doubts are that gyre needs full kit and one extra instance won’t be that much

[solar reef]

i dont play gyre so take this with a grain of salt, but i’ve never seen anybody else here running it

so i would assume it not the best choice

[mighty flare]

gyre's augment takes electric mods even when combined, so not shock trooper usually not used: #1477881092093640827 message

[wraith sinew]

Does the Zenistar disc work with conductive sphere?

[drowsy pelican]

How does one not constantly have two energy on gyre while running blind rage

[dusky bane]

archon stretch and her 3 I guess

[drowsy pelican]

Yes, I have archon stretch

[dusky bane]

consider not using blind rage I guess

[drowsy pelican]

Aw man

[dusky bane]

other than that, companion with synth deconstruct and equilibrium

or energize

[drowsy pelican]

This is my build

[supple plover]

if im not mistaken, it looks like gaia's tragedy has knockbacks and lifted in the combos. does that mean it can be an alternative to seismic palm for melee afflictions?

[mighty flare]

Replace blind rage with transient or try using the Zenurik focus and/or a companion like Diriga with mystic bond

[versed harbor]

seismic bond can be pretty nice for her, the conditions look awkward but its pretty easy to proc on gyre for free 30% efficiency

[tough ore]

does someone have a good build for bubonico ? like nuke build

[prime scarab]

Okay, I don't think I quite understand the value of melee influence.

I'm trying to finish out my Atlas build and everyone seems to suggest it. What does it actually DO?

I don't build melee often so I haven't explored it but it sounds like it just makes electric status into a bigger AoE?

[spring sonnet]

im not sure on the specifics BUT i do know that everything i have put it on has essentually made that weapon a nuke essentually just put electric on the weapon and watch everything die

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I've seen the same results I just am not understanding exactly why.

[fierce lark]

so basically

[brittle iron]

how do i build dante

like make a build i already have him

[fierce lark]

influence has a chance to activate any time you apply electric status to something, and it becomes a buff on your warframe for 18 seconds

when you get the buff, all status effects that you apply via melee damage, to each target hit, will spread to all enemies within a 20 meter radius of the target

[prime scarab]

Ah, I see how that would be really good. I don't quite see the value on Atlas specifically over something like duplicate but this explanation does make sense on other frames.

[fierce lark]

the reason it's so strong is because electric status itself does its first tick of damage instantly, so every electric status you apply inflicts that same first tick of damage to everything within 20m of your target, and that happens again for each status inflicted (including multiple statuses on the same target), and if you hit multiple enemies then every single elec proc applied to each one from your melee will proc an additional status on every enemy within range

[prime scarab]

OH. So its functionally multiplicative on your initial electric proc for every additional status type you spread?

[fierce lark]

well yes, but typically we don't run more than just electric on influence setups

[prime scarab]

Okay, see there

That is what I dont understand

[fierce lark]

primarily to maximize the elec status chance for maximum uptime on the buff, and maximum amount of procs/damage per proc per hit

[prime scarab]

Okay, wait I think I get it.

So I proc elec on one person. It spreads that proc to 3 other nearby people.

Those 3 people proc, and then it does another spread?

[fierce lark]

not quite

you have influence active. you hit one enemy, you proc elec, that elec proc spreads to those other 3 nearby people

the chain ends there

[prime scarab]

Okay, got it. So its just more dmg in an area around the initial hit that arcs off.

So if your initial strike does an AoE and hits two people can those two hits then proc to eachother?

So they're both hit twice?

[fierce lark]

pretty much

the degenerate part is when your melee attack hits 3 enemies in front of you

each of those 3 enemies get an elec proc, and all 3 of those instances elec will spread to each other along with everything else within 20m

[prime scarab]

Okay yeah exactly what I was thinking. That is nice, I get it.

Appreciate it!

[fierce lark]

on something that is pure single target for example, like atlas fist, influence just gives your fists aoe

so instead of having to individually punch every enemy you see, you proc influence once and then all of your elec statuses will just absolutely obliterate everything within 20m of your main target because atlas fists do ludicrous damage

[prime scarab]

Nice, yeah, that makes sense. I'll have to pick up a few more copies then, mines still only rank 1 so a decently small AOE

[fierce lark]

yeah def needs to be rank 5

[teal pendant]

Anyone know how to make limbo good?

[versed harbor]

💀

[teal pendant]

I don’t understand the 3 ability and the 4 ability

[edgy crater]

For Styanax, would you use Molt Efficiency or Arcane Concentration? I don't want "you shouldn't use any of them, use 'x''" type of answer please

[brittle sleet]

Disclaimer for the people unaware of it: only elemental statuses get spread

[fierce lark]

oh yeah yeah, no slash or anything physical

[edgy crater]

That's the funny part

[brittle sleet]

   - If limbo in rift, then tap puts enemies in normal plane & vice versa
- Stasis is just freezing enemies in the Rift, or just their bullets if they're status immune
- Rift Surge is to spread Banish/Cataclysm from killed/freed enemies in the Rift to enemies further away
  - If you free rifted surged enemies with hold Banish or decasting Cataclysm, they'll go back into the rift while spreading it to more enemies
- Cataclysm forces everyone into the rift
usual combo is tap 1 --> rift surge --> hold 1, or with his 4 instead of 1```

Condensed explanation that might help for understanding Limbo's innate abilities

[fierce lark]

is "you shouldn't use styanax" an acceptable answer

[brittle sleet]

Depending on what you want him to be good for Limbo can be arguably the best area denial frame in the game or have a funny hide and seek gameplay with huge boosts to weapon damage via his augment

[edgy crater]

[solar reef]

ill be so so for real you DONT want either of them

On either of his primary playstyles

If you’re building for his 4 you’re using Arachne + Augmented no questions asked

[brittle sleet]

If it's gotta be one I guess I'd say Molt Efficiency since his shields are never going down lol

But yeah you want other stuff more than duration

[edgy crater]

I don't want "you shouldn't use any of them, use 'x''" type of answer please
Well isn't that funny

[teal pendant]

Alright thanks, so far all I have used it for was trolling my friends and then saving them from a boss

[solar reef]

if you weapons platform they likely do

[fierce lark]

im gonna give you an answer you want and then an annoying answer

if your choices are between aug and conc, use aug

but one of your arcanes absolutely should be arachne

[brittle sleet]

Weapons platform does exist I suppose yeah

[solar reef]

its what I prefer at level cap for sure

[fierce lark]

oh you said effiicency or conc

[edgy crater]

Arachne the wall latch one?

[versed harbor]

arachne peak

[solar reef]

his 4 is weapon coded

[edgy crater]

WHAT

[fierce lark]

arachne is the wall latch one yeah, his 4 gets universal weapon buffs

[solar reef]

Though it isnt a melee or gun, it will still benefit from Holster damage buffs, arcane arachne, and can utilize nourish

[edgy crater]

But I don't want to deal damage with my 4, I just want Overguard

[fierce lark]

vigorous swap, arcane arachne, and all manner of buff abilities like nourish/shock trooper/smite infusion etc

[solar reef]

his 4 is all or nothing

[brittle sleet]

Sadly his augment makes his 4 give OG, not his 3

[fierce lark]

if you aren't playing the 4 then you can ignore all of that

[edgy crater]

I have around 240 duration and strength, with 124 range

[fierce lark]

oh wait yeah you have to use his 4 if you want overguard lol

[solar reef]

If you want to spam cast, build pure strength with nourish

Thats how literally everybody plays him outside of level cap

because its the best setup for 99.99% of the games content

[fierce lark]

duration is good too but you want a lot of strength, strength affects both the damage of the javelins and the amount of overguard they generate

[solar reef]

You cast Nourish + his 3 to get enough energy gain to upkeep his 4th

[edgy crater]

I'm using Roar instead of Nourish for more raw damage, and then 227 duration, 238 strength, and 124 range (45 efficiency).
With Molt Augmented and Efficiency, and I was thinking of removing Efficiency for Concentration for more duration not only for Roar and 3, but duration also affects my 4. So idk

[brittle sleet]

And the energy regen he gets, which helps you not need that much duration

[solar reef]

you can run roar but ultimately its way less comfortable than something like nourish

[fierce lark]

the ninjase recommendation runs arachne and truculence, but you can easily run molt augmented and molt efficiency/concentration instead

[edgy crater]

Imo Nourish is kinda redundant since I have 3 for energy regen, but I get the MORE ENERGY part and also viral priming

[versed harbor]

we love dumping efficiency :]

[solar reef]

his 3 alone doesnt generate enough energy to spam his 4

[edgy crater]

That's why I have a lot of duration

[solar reef]

nourish allows to you to spam cast and thus OG gate

you can also just build more strength that way

[edgy crater]

But I'm already using all strength mods

[solar reef]

like my Nourish setup sits at like 350-400 strength

[edgy crater]

Plus Molt Augmented

Oh yeah -60% strength from Overextended

[solar reef]

ultimately i abandoned his 4 focused build and instead subsume over it now

[edgy crater]

Alright alright I'm equipping Ice Storm on him then...

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[edgy crater]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-meme-wolf-gif-9154921303222580769

[trim beacon]

Can someone give me an optimal Xoris Build for Granum Void or a good Mesa Setup for her 4th ability to get 25+kills?

[stuck igloo]

My Naturuk build, feels it doesn't do enough damage on SP despite hitting perfect headshots. Maybe is just a put more forma and upgrade mods thing.

[clear gale]

Hey there. Can I ask help with my Saryn and her ocucor?

[novel bear]

Take off heavy caliber and put on vital sense

What arcane are you using?

[stuck igloo]

I dont have vital sense, so i was using heavy caliber as a kind of replacement

[stuck igloo]

None, I don't have many options

[novel bear]

Just rank up mods for now then I guess
Work on getting arcanes, longbow sharpshot is optimal for nataruk

[stuck igloo]

I could also farm for vital sense

If it is important

[novel bear]

It is

It’s used on basically every primary

[trim beacon]

Can someone give me an optimal Xoris Build for Granum Void or a good Mesa Setup for her 4th ability to get 25+kills?

[prime scarab]

Do melee weapon incarnon effects such as "+20 initial combo" or "gain combo on ammo pickup" also apply while holding your exalted melee if you have one? Atlas specifically.

[versed harbor]

it wont apply to your exalteds no

[prime scarab]

phooey, thanks

[novel bear]

Atlas doesn’t have trouble building combo though

It’s one bar per punch
And you should be running dexterities

[marble marten]

Is there any way to stop Nyx's mind-control enemy from following me everywhere? I have a mind-control build with Loki, and that damn decoy keeps running, hiding, and following me

[placid seal]

What do I slot here?

[violet silo]

uh... wow thats a high ranked vitality. switch one of your arcanes for aegis then

wait how is this a gun platform

[placid seal]

Is it not.

I suck at builds so.

[violet silo]

didnt u say it was a mix of both

[placid seal]

Idk

[placid seal]

Yes

[placid seal]

I don't have aegis

[violet silo]

this isn't very good at either

[violet silo]

get it or don't run fast deflection

[placid seal]

Oh ._.

Can I get a caster build then?

[opal leaf]

Hold why you don't have Equi?

[placid seal]

One purple shard

[opal leaf]

Oh ok

[violet silo]

yeah... you arent running thermal transfer or a subsume to get more power as a platform, and you arent running efficiency or high range for a nuke

https://www.underframe.site/featured_builds/gauss-nuke here's caster

you dont have to subsume roar

its just better

[opal leaf]

XDDD

[violet silo]

kinetic plating is an awfully fancy way to say "hunter adrenaline and PSF"

[placid seal]

40 strength

[violet silo]

molt's there

[opal leaf]

That's nuke build

[violet silo]

its a nuke, should only take a few mins to rack up

[opal leaf]

Actually Trust Melpomene when it comes to Gauss

[violet silo]

just use sling strength from madurai

[opal leaf]

Even I learned from him hahaha

[violet silo]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HE_UeavbYAAK3Lc.webp

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[opal leaf]

Into my meme bag

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/xaku-warframe-nonbinary-non-binary-picmix-gif-13546531829644806588

[warm obsidian]

I should replace Adrenaline with Equilibrium

[opal leaf]

Yes

Idk

[violet silo]

thats what I did, served me far better

[opal leaf]

Yeah

[violet silo]

especially if you're gonna run fiber

[placid seal]

Good?

[warm obsidian]

You could go for Ice storm too

[dense terrace]

Hi guys I need an out of meta NCR Ranger 🐻🐻 build for Cyte-09 where he uses primary sniper rifle beside his Neutraljzer that doesnt need a high killper minute thing just need to hit hard like the anti materiel rifle

[dense terrace]

I have an arcane aegis Gauss P. build, I really want to focus on using the Acceltra how do I solve the ammo economy problem currently using meta CO melee build

[violet silo]

narrow minded is kinda a problem but you don't have primed continuity

[placid seal]

Wait oops

[violet silo]

hi, im the gauss nerd. use energized munitions for acceltra

[dense terrace]

Yay!

[placid seal]

I should swap that huh

[violet silo]

try augur message or smth

[placid seal]

I could steal some reds off some other frames

Only one tho

Ima replace the purple with a tau red

[violet silo]

ok for now

[placid seal]

Final product

[tulip cove]

Who got a crazy strun build (no rivens pls😟)

[violet silo]

might I suggest doing kahl for a new archon vit to get more energy on spawn

[placid seal]

I have a fresh one

[violet silo]

use that

[placid seal]

Why should I use it tho?

[violet silo]

right you don't have aegis
gauss is a shield tank frame.

with brespite, augur message, and maybe some augurs on your companion weapon you can active gate for now

but once you get aegis, gauss becomes immortal making it completely unnecessary

[placid seal]

Oh

Would a r1 be fine?

[violet silo]

maybe? you could test.

I think it should work

[placid seal]

Ok ok

I don't have that tho.

Ima try to get one

[violet silo]

ah. I believe you need r3 aegis to get gauss immortal

[placid seal]

._.

[violet silo]

but you get close with the lower ranks.

I just checked

[placid seal]

Ima max out this archon vital and sell it to buy aegis

[violet silo]

at r3, it's -20% delay, which matches his 80% reduction

guh
I might be wrong again, it might not matter

[dense terrace]

And how to charge REDLINE faster? Besides spamming cold 3rd abilitu

[violet silo]

run around, press 1.

[dense terrace]

Ah thats it thanks

Its that simple...

[violet silo]

if the battery is full, it'll charge at a speed of 1/3 its total duration

if you go for a minute, then it takes 20s to charge, if you go for two, 40, etc

[opal leaf]

I hope itll charge faster tho tbh hahaha

[violet silo]

if you run arcane hopes and dreams you can pretend it charges faster

[opal leaf]

XDD Fck off

I was about to ask what kind of arcane is that

[prime scarab]

Anyone have any fun subsumes to put on Atlas?

[opal leaf]

Nourish for his Golem

Or WA for his 1

[formal bolt]

for anyone who was here last night when I was fighting my lich and failing a lot

The one warframe that finally won, was an Immortality Nyx Build

[frozen tundra]

Hello! I'm not very good at modding, and I'm really wanting to be able to use my Excalibur Umbra more for higher level things. But I don't really know how to build him. Any help would be great, thank you ☺️

[near vortex]

arcane persistence

[frozen tundra]

Afraid to say idk what that is

[native owl]

Hello guys im new here and just got mesa, is there a mid game build for mesa or is it even viable for it? I just feel it to be weak compared to Umbra, is there a specif mods and weapon for her that is for mid game

[rigid lark]

when it comes to using the sobek build for arbi ik everyone has magnetic on it so im wondering if

is the magnetic status on the sobek meant for dmg or mainly utility? cause if so would magnetic strafe be good to have both magnetic and another status or no?

[violet silo]

slow down

not everyone has magnetic on sobek

thats just cyte

[rigid lark]

mb meant for the cyte set up for arbi

[violet silo]

so for that setup, you need to have electric mods on the gun

the progenitor is cold to get a useful status

[rigid lark]

i assume cause u will be using electric ammo?

and if so i also assume then the new magnetic status mod wont rlly be useful then?

[violet silo]

mhm

like toxic lash, modded elements boost their respective extra hit

[rigid lark]

aww oh well but when would those new mods actually be useful then?

if u dont mind me asking

[violet silo]

non-kuva guns

when you need to throw in an extra element for gunCO

[rigid lark]

gunco?

[violet silo]

condition overload

galvanized savvy, aptitude, shot

[hushed harbor]

thoughts?

[hushed harbor]

real

[gray quarry]

Do not the excal persistence

[sharp portal]

Any build for Atomos?

[opal leaf]

It's just your typical Viral Heat

[sharp portal]

Strong enough for Steel Path

With ot without Incarnon

[opal leaf]

Need Enervate on it tho, with Incarnon obv

[sharp portal]

º

[opal leaf]

I mean if it's dps, then yes you need Enervate or Cascadia Flare

But just priming... Idk....

[sharp portal]

I think goes well with Follie

[opal leaf]

Maybe

[toxic latch]

My operator is awful. What amp should I be trying to build?

[opal leaf]

147 for general

14x from Quills in Cetus, Earth

xx7 from Little Duck in Fortuna, Venus

[shell tundra]

How good is Rifle Elementalist on a primary that relies on blast and electric status effects for damage?

[toxic latch]

What is the order you are using? The graphics I have seen have them listed in a different order than the game does when you talk to the quills for example

[opal leaf]

I mean it added damage fr... Makes the DOT stronger

[opal leaf]

I haven't had jt much, I as using Sirocco, while having a Focused Madurai, but while preparing, 147 is the one I was always recommended so I researched it

[shell tundra]

Does the fact that I’m using Caliban Prime’s sniper rifle make it any different?(I don’t rember how to spell the name of the vadarya ;-;)

[opal leaf]

I mean it works... Like... Yeah

[toxic latch]

Sorry I mean, which is part is the first number referencing, and the second, ect

[opal leaf]

Ah sorry, well... There is a list

Wait

[polar knoll]

which one is good for saryn?

[toxic latch]

I have this graphic. But in the game the order is different

[opal leaf]

Oh that doesn't matter

[toxic latch]

So I am unsure if when it says ‘1’ if it is referring to the scaffold as the game has that listed first or the prism as the graphic has that listed first

[opal leaf]

The numbers is just what part are used

The order matters base on number

I used this one to really see

So like you need:

part 1
Part 4
Then part 7

Coreect me if I'm wrong tho

[mighty flare]

The first one, extra toxin status damage

[opal leaf]

Yo can you help us a bit with the amp problem? Just confirm what I just said and correct me if I'm wrong with the info

Even I am confused too

[mighty flare]

147 refers to order of Prism + Scaffold + Brace, so 147:

• Raplak Prism
• Phahd Scaffold
• Certus Brace

[opal leaf]

Ohhhhhhh OK thank you

So it's basically per part

[novel bear]

In game the order depends on which order you select the parts in, and can be different between amps

So a general prism scaffold brace order is used to talk about them

[toxic latch]

Thank you everyone

[opal leaf]

Is the order important?

[novel bear]

No

[opal leaf]

Ah I see

[frigid nymph]

🙂‍↕️

[novel bear]

It matters when you’re just using the numbers in conversation

[toxic latch]

What was the ‘x’ referencing?

[novel bear]

But the order in game doesn’t matter

[opal leaf]

No number

[novel bear]

Placeholder

To show where the number is in relation to the others

[opal leaf]

So I can have it rumble out if I have 147

But the placement should be prism, scaffold, brace

Am I... Am I making sense?

[toxic latch]

So 147 is the all around suggest amp?

[opal leaf]

Yes, the general one

[charred gale]

547 actually

1xx has hit reg issues if ur not host

[opal leaf]

Oh? Why not 147?

[charred gale]

hit reg issues

and more forgiving

[opal leaf]

Oh what??!!! Bro that sucks

[charred gale]

yeah

[toxic latch]

Thanks again all, very helpful

[opal leaf]

So 547 it is

Is it still the same one where there is like... Bright glaives bouncing around in 3s?

[charred gale]

yeah thats x4x

thats just the primary fire im suggesting to change

[opal leaf]

Ah I see

[proud jasper]

Anyone can tell me what is the current most demanding Kuva Weapon?

Is it Nukor/Zarr? how about Sobek?

[opal leaf]

I always see Nukor and Sobek in the trade chat

Or generally in trades

They are both been dominating in the Kuva Trading

[valid axle]

How do I go about dealing with the akarius absolute horrible ammo economy

[charred gale]

u can use energized munitions, protea dispensary, or cyte resupply

[late ice]

What affects uriel 1’s speed

Parkour speed?

[charred gale]

yeah sounds right

[fierce lark]

parkour speed and dodge speed

[junior zephyr]

what melee would yall suggest i get for voruna prime? im still pretty new so might not have alot of things unlocked (im MR7 and on whispers in the wall quest if it makes it clearer what my progression is)

[astral cipher]

I am not sure if my wisp build is going the right direction to maximize the strength of her motes or if im supposed to build her for her motes but this is what i have so far and any recommedations would be great

[true hound]

hey lads im looking for an equinox build for vc lvl cap. only saw this or pillage build (still w slamistar) and it seems kinda uncanny to me to use equinox as a melee frame sort of, do yall have any other builds i could try out and have success on them?

[karmic badger]

None? Cause if you have both augments your gonna be on all 4s at all times

If you're just relying on her 2 and 1 then probably anything that wants alot of crit

[karmic badger]

Anyone except gauss kek

[rich glacier]

Use roar instead of pillage. You also need the breach surge augment for critical chance. Corrosive projection with heat proc is enough armor reduction. Use an incarnon that does heat. For motes you only care about the fire rate one. Shock mote here and there for archon stretch

You spam 2 every 3s to live

[karmic badger]

Probably drop molt efficiency for arcane Crepuscular

Free 3x crit damage ain't bad

[dusky bane]

the idea is to use her 4
charge it with magistar
then AoE nuke with 4
and repeat

[brisk niche]

Any way im able to improve my build?

[dusky bane]

more range imo

why redirection

[brisk niche]

idk i thought itd be a good idea to add in

[dusky bane]

try these
HYBRID BRIMSTONE/WEAPON PLATFORM: https://overframe.gg/build/935570/
PURE CASTER: https://overframe.gg/build/935851/
PURE WEAPON PLATFORM (THERMAL SUNDER/NOURISH): https://overframe.gg/build/935576/

SOBEK ACID SHELLS: https://overframe.gg/build/934931/ (for build 3)

[opal leaf]

Sobek for Uriel?

[dusky bane]

it "works", but it's inconvenient

and worse than cyte/saryn

[opal leaf]

Ah

Guess still Xaku Sobek still is the worst hahahahah

[dusky bane]

ye, the worst of the double hits

[velvet pulsar]

Even Koumei sobek is better

(corrosive extra hit decree)

[opal leaf]

Nahhhh how can that happened god damn hahahaha

[brisk niche]

ima be honest i dont really have half of the mods in there yet again not even enough endo to level them up decently

[opal leaf]

YOU DEADASS BE LYING HAHAHAHA

[dusky bane]

lmfao

[dusky bane]

mods like?

[brisk niche]

overextended,power drift, primed continuity, none of those arcanes,cunning drift, corrosive projection, and many more

im poor

[long portal]

you can farm overextended and power drift relatively easily

it will be tedious but wont really require anything other thna time

[brisk niche]

where do they drop im pretty sure orokin vaults right

[dusky bane]

get it, get it, use regular/archon, depends on the arcane, get it, get it

[late ice]

Wheres the bubonico build?

[dusky bane]

orokin vaults, lua challenges

[dusky bane]

bubonico?

[late ice]

I pinged for bubonico not sobek

[dusky bane]

I sent uriel builds 💀

uriel bubonico is a meme anyway

[late ice]

[karmic badger]

Uriel bubonico is solely because uriel can fire alt modes on weapons while flying

[late ice]

Hmm

[vale abyss]

so how is my gauss nuke?

[karmic badger]

Ditch augmented for aegis, sunder nuking requires no strength whatsoever, so having aegis is worth it for easier survival

Also may be worthwhile experimenting with negative duration, less overall duration for redline, but you can hit 100% faster

[astral cipher]

I currently use the burston prime incarnon with a viral status to pair with the heat, and I'm.xurrently just trying to build a level cap design for wisp so this is what I ended up with currently

[ancient nova]

can someone help me w this titania prime build

[rich glacier]

Yeah burston is fine. It has heat incarnon. Try primary deadhead with just vieal heal. If it seems to not work add purple shards and debilitate

But add efficiency. You have too much strength. More is good but you don't have 2 spam with blind rage

[velvet pulsar]

What's stronger?
Akarius Prime or Secondary Sporelacer built for full crit inclination?

[karmic badger]

Probably the kitgun

By virtue of not screaming "five bullets left!" every 20 seconds

[astral cipher]

Sounds good I can do some rebuilding and adjust the efficiency

[polar pasture]

Need a build for uriel plus where I can get them mods

[vale abyss]

dont have it :/

[karmic badger]

Only need a single copy, literally rank 0 is enough

Also BotB operation is coming back, so you can probably get a full copy that way

[random maple]

For a nova null star build is Nourish better or Xata WHisper/ Roar ? What do you guys think ?

[vale abyss]

not a single one and knowing marketplace people dont even want to sell 1 copy

[karmic badger]

Nullstars apply nourish

In general nullstars are weird, they're effectively weapons, meaning arcane avenger and a bond mod can make em crit

[random maple]

I see on youtube a lot of builds with roar and xata whisper thats why I asked

[pale belfry]

Depends on usecase

Her 1 is scaling with roar, not xata

Xata is weapon platform

[strange dragon]

Someone got an innodem build that focus on the airborne atk?

[spring sonnet]

does any1 have any recs for weapons when doing endo farm i have ripkas

i just figured that there might b a better weapon

[dusky bane]

ripkas for nekros, then use primary/secondary for dps

[modest vector]

i can go roar with influence right

or is there sumthing better off getting for subsume

[dusky bane]

Yeah, very synergistic

[modest vector]

okey thank you

[wary forge]

Roar triple dips influence and also just gives your melee more dmg in terms of just dmg roar is by far the best nourish is also good same with wrathful. Crit doesn’t actually do anything for the influence procs it just helps you kill the initial target with light attacks faster

Also the movement from wa is nice

[modest vector]

thats goated 🤑

i guess my next step is getting a primer now right or something since i have my kullervo and syam mods pretty good now

[ruby cloud]

Can you guys rate my health tank/ shield gating Saryn?

[wary forge]

This is certainly a build

If I’m being brutally honest this might actually be the worst build I’ve ever seen

[dusky bane]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-meme-i-just-made-some-bullshit-gif-15690632352507439130

[static sphinx]

Electric kuva nukor has good synergy with Gyre, right?

[rocky mason]

It's very funny for sure

[dire terrace]

Best amp?

[opal leaf]

Is there?

[dire terrace]

Wym

[sinful stirrup]

all of the amps have its strength and weaknesses
i guess you're trying to ask what's a good general use amp?

[dusky bane]

147 if solo, 547 if client for general use
Eidos use 177

[inner raptor]

My loadout is: any primary with amalgam that can potentially kill acolytes, kuva nukor for killing everything else and acolytes cause im too lazy to swap weapons, ripkas. Also big help is nautilus for succ for faster kpm but you cant really desecrate that much.

[opal leaf]

There is no "Best" out of all, Cubra told you all the amps needed BEST in certain situations

[last gust]

Just wondering has anyone tried to subsume garudas 2nd into excalibur prime? Will that help with his survivability

[dusky bane]

how would that help

[potent marten]

Probably passive health Regen but it won't be effective

[dire terrace]

Ok

[dire terrace]

First I didn't read the message and replied knowing I just opened my phone, but thanks

[opal leaf]

Might as well slot Omamori on that bish than that

[last gust]

Do you have any suggestions then?

I just got him and i want to build him properly

[sinful stirrup]

you just got excal prime?

[last gust]

Ye

[sinful stirrup]

are you sure?

[granite ginkgo]

u want to build excal on melee influence build

[last gust]

Umbra i mean

[opal leaf]

Omamori or Quiver for invis survivability

[last gust]

Gotcha

[opal leaf]

Brooooo I was about to call you out

[sinful stirrup]

right, i figured
i was gonna say
how is this person getting excal prime in the big 26

[granite ginkgo]

my take, gloom or war cry

[last gust]

Subsume the 2nd right?

[granite ginkgo]

unless u got kullervo, that shit make exalted nuke the room

[wary forge]

depends if u want to do persistence or not

[last gust]

But my kullervo is fully built i dont want to sacrifice it

[dusky bane]

over the squeal, yea

[last gust]

Its a pain to grind it

[granite ginkgo]

just saying

[dusky bane]

get a second one, he's like one of the easier frames

[wary forge]

so then just buy another one

[last gust]

Alr thanks im gonna try building him then

[last gust]

I bought him with plat ill try to save up again

[dusky bane]

why jesus

[last gust]

Im new

[dusky bane]

of the 64 frames in the game, he's like in the top 20 easiest ones

it takes like an hour to get him

[last gust]

I didn’t have access to him early on so i bought it

I traded for plats i didn’t use real money

[dusky bane]

still wasteful

[granite ginkgo]

just farm kullervo when u want to farm pathos clamp

[astral cipher]

Big question, is Viral still the best contender when it comes to the most damaging status to have specially for extremely end game? Or is more situational based on who your fighting, cause I just enjoy doing void Cascades to level cap and want to know if viral will help there or if I need something better

[granite ginkgo]

it make the run meaningful, like 3 in 1 run

[last gust]

Alright

[granite ginkgo]

yes

[last gust]

Also what status should i put on the blade? For now im using heat and viral

[sinful stirrup]

some factions resist viral, but overall it's still really good
since yknow, all the enemies have health

[dusky bane]

ideally you'd swap per faction, especially at cap

[astral cipher]

Okay, I wasn't sure if the status hierarchy had changed over the past few years I've stepped away and just now really started my build crafting and level cap shenanigans

Cause I usually run magnetic on my secondary for eximus

[limber adder]

Anybody have a Unairu Tauron Strike build?

[narrow granite]

Opignions about mi melee only nekros? :V

[potent marten]

As a nekros main I have to ask, why prime sure footed?

[dusky bane]

why not, knockdown immunity kinda goated

[limber adder]

Question:
Why mot just rolling guard?

[potent marten]

And rapid resilience

[narrow granite]

So I can stand mi ground

[limber adder]

Or run unairu

[potent marten]

Shield of shadows does that

[narrow granite]

WAT

[potent marten]

It gives you full status and knockdown immunity

[granite ginkgo]

recast buff or perm immune

[potent marten]

Cuz it's not dmg reduction

[limber adder]

Tsk tsk
Someone haven't done enough Simulacrum

[potent marten]

It's dmg redirection

[narrow granite]

ye but knockdown aint :-?

[limber adder]

Just transfer in and out of operator :/

[granite ginkgo]

i know it work just go op mode back n forts

[potent marten]

It does prevent knockdown

Hop in the sim and try it out

[granite ginkgo]

problem is the only time i use op is to activate madurai buff

[potent marten]

I'm playing nekros for 3 years now

I know a lill about him

[dusky bane]

genuinely did not know that
shows how much I care about health tanking

[narrow granite]

intresting news...

[dusky bane]

knockdown is a status actually

same as lifted

[granite ginkgo]

kinda ironic i subsume those for ore gaze

[potent marten]

Also arcane reaper great choice, I love it

And despoil is useless if you have equilibrium

Desecrate gives you over 60% chance to make enemies drop HP orb

So despoil does nothing

And you need more energy cuz he doesn't really have much

[dusky bane]

which you should be using anyway

I don't get the despoil cult

[potent marten]

And use health conversion instead or rapid resilience

And just so you know it, what you summon can really change how you play and survive

[limber adder]

Wonder how far this build will go

[narrow granite]

would retribution trigger archon stretch?:-?

[potent marten]

Guardian eximus and ancient healers can give you dmg reduction

And leech eximus can give you energy and health according to their type

[limber adder]

Rhe summoned form?

[potent marten]

Tank nekros can lvl cap solo

[potent marten]

Yup, it can give you 90% extra Dr and how many the ancient healers give you combined

[limber adder]

I wish I have the creativity to pull off this kind of builds

[potent marten]

Stack armor, shield of shadows, eclipse or null star and these two summons and health Regen like eximus or arcane reaper and you're unkillable

[narrow granite]

I preffer gloom for the aura

[dusky bane]

making this build lowkey more fun than playing it

[potent marten]

And you an also use the passive to you're advantage with melee combat cuz you Regen health for each corpse around you

[narrow granite]

makes it more menancing

[limber adder]

That's like most builds honestly
Like my shock trooper Chroma

[potent marten]

3 years of minmaxing nekros

[dusky bane]

well you DID pick another boring frame to compare to

I only play chroma when I need credits and I only play nekros for generic farming when khora's taken

[potent marten]

It can be good, but you can also just use nourish and make all your summons prime viral

[limber adder]

Atleast chroma can give big weapon buffs. Nekros is litgit ONLY useful for looting.

[narrow granite]

I will NEVER use nourish ... I can't stop hearing the deep voiced UwU

[potent marten]

And tanking

[narrow granite]

say wat?

[potent marten]

So use Vauban subsume for nuking

[limber adder]

I litgit tried to find funny ways to tank using Chroma just for him to always end up a health tank

[potent marten]

Only good with the augment

[limber adder]

Full armor strip ain't all that anymore man...styanax can do the same thing and better

[dusky bane]

chroma's not even that good of a weapon platform either

[potent marten]

You can literally change it for ophanim eyes for the same results

[dusky bane]

ah yes
the skill you can use on anyone is the reason to play nekros 💀

[limber adder]

Why I never see people mention Tharos strike when it comes to a Armor Strip option?

[dusky bane]

ok, let's not go THAT far 💀

[dusky bane]

lower range, has LoS

[potent marten]

Has a broken augment as well

[narrow granite]

nah, I like nekros's teheme more nowadays... back in the days he was 3 spammer... but now he has more options... like 10 years + ago we all protected a nekros more than the cryopod lol

[limber adder]

Ophanium eyes: slow, takes time and high strength
Terrify: makes enemies run away
Tharos Strike: instantaneous armor strip

[potent marten]

He was a real loot goblin back then

[narrow granite]

yeah he was...

[limber adder]

Still is

[dusky bane]

slow, not worth
non-LoS, lowest strength req
high-ish strength

[limber adder]

Not really
150 something is enough for full strip iirc

[dusky bane]

tharros needs 200

terrify is 167

[limber adder]

Huh?

[potent marten]

Tharos strike also has a great augment

It can buff any weapon you use

[dusky bane]

eh, only on enemies you hit
would be cooler if it was just a buff

[limber adder]

I was not aware of that
Huh???

[dusky bane]

it's relatively new and nobody plays styanax

[potent marten]

Agree but it's still better than terrify's augment

[potent marten]

It gives you additional crit dmg on affected enemies

[limber adder]

Idk why man
Styanax is litgit a better Dante

[limber adder]

100%?!
Noice.

[potent marten]

200% on spearguns and opticor

[dusky bane]

insane take

also incredibly wrong

[limber adder]

Styanax gives energy, gives a shit ton of overguard, deals good damage with his 4th.

[narrow granite]

I find it a lot harder and slower to get overguard with styanax -w-

[dusky bane]

meh, sure, meh

styanax does nothing except survive and aura farm

[limber adder]

Don't downplay the goat

[dusky bane]

his best ability is his helminth

[limber adder]

That's all a warframe needs to do

[dusky bane]

I genuinely hope they buff/rework him for his prime

[limber adder]

His 4th is great ):<

[versed harbor]

styanax is better than dante simply because dante is way too ugly

I dont make the rules shrug

[limber adder]

A warframe that has no aura is nothing more then Helminth food

[limber adder]

True true

[narrow granite]

SAY WHAT NOW? -_-"

[dusky bane]

valid until june

[limber adder]

Admit it man dante looks like a moth pupae

[versed harbor]

bro is not a son of sparda

[gray quarry]

But nipple tassels

[narrow granite]

No he don't. He looks wiser than styanax enjoyers : <

[limber adder]

Extra aura (some freaky mf gonna find that hot)

[dusky bane]

ME, I'm the freaky mf

I also can't wait for garuda's proto

[gray quarry]

Imagine if we could put his nipple tassels on other frames

[potent marten]

I just want a nekros heirloom and I can die peacefully

[potent marten]

I dont wanna imagine what the community is gonna do with that

[gray quarry]

Same

[narrow granite]

y'all mfkers made me snort ma coffee T_T

[sinful stirrup]

Wonder if there'll be a secret 3rd proto or is this just it
it probably won't be a 3rd but then again they pulled that with the devil's triad

[karmic badger]

I mean we already put massive 2 handed melee weapons between our legs

Have you seen the golden dong of golden skeleton Xaku?

[gray quarry]

for the meme DE should’ve given garuda a block of gouda cheese for the reveal of her proto

[potent marten]

I have... And I still regret seeing it

[gray quarry]

Is that a masseter or are you just happy

[limber adder]

I am incredibly upset it's not Nithok

Also Dante fans, this your goat?

[karmic badger]

Still funny that the Masseter is a crankshaft from like a V16 engine turned into a club

[gray quarry]

It is?

[sinful stirrup]

that looks more like a necramech's core

[limber adder]

Huh it does...but for the agenda it is not.

[gray quarry]

[limber adder]

Maybe you're imagining things

[gray quarry]

Bonewidows

[limber adder]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

[dusky bane]

I see hot lady that can stab me, I got no complaints

[limber adder]

Bar is in the dirt twin

[gray quarry]

gives me a reason to play garuda again

[dusky bane]

real, I might even update my build for that

[gray quarry]

Overextended is so good on her

[cinder isle]

Hey! ♡
Would love to ask what subsume Ability could be great on my Wisp Build. I do have 220% Duration, 390% strength and around 120% range. I would love to do more damage, es specially with my weapons.

[gray quarry]

Nourish is subsume

[dusky bane]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-joe-pesci-pesci-what-gif-10718026964868693743

[gray quarry]

What in the, honestly I offer my build

[gray quarry]

Nourish is usually my go to, extra str and with archon stretch a nice bit of faster energy regen

Usually over her 4 is where I put it

[compact cypress]

should i use nourish over blood altar?

[dusky bane]

I'll probably yoink one of these
https://overframe.gg/build/489274/
https://overframe.gg/build/314687/

[gray quarry]

Yes(sorry didn’t read the message properly)

Blood alter is her subsume slot

[compact cypress]

figured

thanks

[gray quarry]

Her other 3 abilities are just too good, to toss

[compact cypress]

and pretty much needed to play her too

[gray quarry]

Yeah

I’d argue especially her 3

[surreal bolt]

whats better

[opal leaf]

Garuda users

Is Blood Altar even worth it?

[opal leaf]

Left

[gray quarry]

No

[opal leaf]

Ms and CC? And harmless negative? Hell yeah

[dusky bane]

that left one's pretty spicy

[dusky bane]

not even harmless, but incredibly positive

[opal leaf]

True that

[opal leaf]

So it's useless after all hahahah

[dusky bane]

I'd kill for -zoom mods

[gray quarry]

Maybe on some frames, oraxia and nidus come to mind. Since it’s %based healing but on frames with not alot of health it’s not useful

[opal leaf]

Nidus has a lot of health despite he is... (can't believe I'm saying this) worse than the rest of the health tankers

[gray quarry]

Nidus and oraxia can make use of it, but you don’t wanna scrap any of nidus’s abilities and oraxia wants nourish for more viral and energy from her 1

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's true hahaha

[gray quarry]

Hoping he gets a health increase, even tho he can reach the same amount of health as oraxia and inaros easily

[opal leaf]

Yeah I'm saving for Nidus P bc I'm getting that bish fr fr

[patent plinth]

Is there a way to improve this ? riven have cd and cc ( don’t have kuva for rolling it )

[karmic badger]

Swap out the tennokai for the new one you get from follie's hunt

[atomic moth]

Replace organ shatter with blood rush

[patent plinth]

blood rush only gives cc if I am not mistaken so what is the point ?

[gray quarry]

Don’t need bloodrush, WA is doing more than enough

[karmic badger]

More crit, more damage technically

[atomic moth]

Idk what I should even tell, it's just better than organ shatter?

[atomic moth]

Imagine using subsume for magi with riven

[karmic badger]

Though with a 300% str kullervo you're already hitting for tier 6 crits, the highest the game can visually show

[gray quarry]

what frame are they using

[atomic moth]

It doesn't matter?

[gray quarry]

[atomic moth]

Magi has enough damage to kill anything w/ any damage subsumes, except demolishers

[patent plinth]

596% cc on WA

[gray quarry]

Swapping nourish with roar or eclipse maybe, unsure if it’s rather be put over WA tho

[gray quarry]

I was just pointing out WA isn’t the subsume since it’s on kullervo and the frame they’re using is kullervo

[karmic badger]

Yeah you're slamming for the visual crit limit

[atomic moth]

that was not mentioned in the first place ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gray quarry]

I think it was

[atomic moth]

.

[gray quarry]

Unless you meant in general

[dusky bane]

it's literally on fkn kullervo

[woeful monolith]

anyone know if the new variant vanguard synadama is gonna have the same aura effect on it as the tennocon version and is it shown in the dev stream to do that?

[dusky bane]

yes and yes

[woeful monolith]

thank you cubra

[gray quarry]

I saw the build. I mentioned WA doing more than enough and you mentioned using a subsume for slamistar

I’m now confused if you meant in general or somethin else

[atomic moth]

Mb I didn't see the kullervo screenshot

[dusky bane]

from friday's devstream

[gray quarry]

damn I’m sad it was a useless argument

[woeful monolith]

hey cubra thanks for the screenshots to proof it i appreciate it

[opal leaf]

Is this going to be free? Or tenno Gen stuff again (I'm not that updated

[dusky bane]

regal aya

[opal leaf]

Fck...

Not free ;~;

[karmic badger]

Regal aya will always be a tough sell for alot of people

[opal leaf]

;~;

[gray quarry]

How much regal aya

[near vortex]

You get it for free if you bought the Tennocon pack

Last year*

[opal leaf]

Still real money thoooooo

[dusky bane]

it's free if you spent 30$ last year
or you can buy it for around 7$ this year

[karmic badger]

Roughly 7 usd for 3? And syandanas are usually 1 regal aya

[dusky bane]

it's 7 for 1

[gray quarry]

$7 for 1??

[karmic badger]

Poo

[opal leaf]

For Hate (specifically Incarnon) you just use Generic influence on it right?

[near vortex]

no

[dusky bane]

6€ for 1, so around 7$

[near vortex]

I think you run like afflictions

[karmic badger]

Wait! Regional pricing

[dusky bane]

either lightspam influence of heavy spam afflictions

[near vortex]

you don't want to run Influence because it's a heat focused weapon

[dusky bane]

if you have that

[near vortex]

you can run Influence if you play Volt for the heat electric combo ig

[gray quarry]

f[sadness]

[dusky bane]

or you can read what the weapon does and not care

[gray quarry]

shock trooper exists

[near vortex]

I did read what the weapon does
It has a pretty sick augment that makes afflictions really good on jt

[near vortex]

That's what I mean
You can play Volt /subsume shock to run influence

[dusky bane]

and how is any of that "influence bad"

the weapon itself can run influence without shock trooper

[gray quarry]

Gas elec my favorite

[dusky bane]

nah, just standard elec

[gray quarry]

Gas elec

[near vortex]

Maybe if you don't wanna use the augment but 120% status damage is a lot

[opal leaf]

The wave slash came from the Incarnon mode right?

[gray quarry]

damn I want burning hate now, but it’s too expensive

[dusky bane]

that's syam

[gray quarry]

That’s syam

[dusky bane]

wait 8 days and farm it out

[dusky bane]

imagine reading what the incarnon does

[gray quarry]

8 days?

[dusky bane]

a week from tomorrow

[opal leaf]

Wait... Hate doesn't do the mid range slash on Incarnon mode?

[gray quarry]

Why 8 days

[dusky bane]

not that I know of

[karmic badger]

New operation, rewards include the augments

[opal leaf]

Light attacks and stuff

[dusky bane]

for the event where it's farmable

[gray quarry]

what augments

[opal leaf]

Wait.... Huh????? What does his Incarnon mode do?

[gray quarry]

No?

[opal leaf]

Yeah I'm now very confused

[gray quarry]

Heat. All the heat in the world

[karmic badger]

Unsean Dread and Burning Hate

[gray quarry]

Are those it?

[karmic badger]

For augments? Yes

Plenty of other stuff tho

[gray quarry]

so sell unseen dread now and scam the daylights out of people, then buy it from the new operation

[karmic badger]

People already know

Fairly sure the price has already tanked a bit

[opal leaf]

Oh it launch blades!!!! Not slashes!!!

I mixed it up bc it looks like slashes

[gray quarry]

DAMNIT

[dusky bane]

burning hate tanked from nearly 200 to sub 80

[gray quarry]

[karmic badger]

Kek

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[karmic badger]

Albrecht Bogdanoff strikes again

[gray quarry]

after the operation the price should go bacj up, right?

[karmic badger]

Mate, arcane energize has yet to recover lmao

[gray quarry]

[dusky bane]

surely

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[gray quarry]

Don’t give me hope

[dusky bane]

I was being sarcastic

if the gif didn't make that obvious

[gray quarry]

Ik

[quiet laurel]

it wont ever recover again

DE making sure that the eidolon arcanes are worthless in plat value

[queen parcel]

i'm glad for it

[karmic badger]

Real and based

Now if only they'd do the same for the temporal archimedia arcanes

[quiet laurel]

I'd rather have some expensive arcanes left

idk why people want everything to be cheap

it both hurts people who play the game actively and DE

[dusky bane]

if they weren't horrific to farm, I wouldn't mind

[quiet laurel]

I mean the temporal ones you just get passively

[narrow granite]

the zoomies are reall * u * [meme build]

[quiet laurel]

or you wait for descendia loot room and vosfor gamble

[fresh plume]

Can anyone help me build Okina

[dusky bane]

generic influence slop

[dusky bane]

if you play that garbage mode

[gray quarry]

Get the exilus adapter

[narrow granite]

I dont have one .w.

[gray quarry]

Oof

[narrow granite]

and I had 32 of them from that first twitchdrop . w.

[grand basalt]

Can I get some help with this I feel like it could be better but idk what else to do

[inner raptor]

what valence should i swap if i want to run magnetic might and still be able to do ennervate blast and ennervate viral/heat. my base damage comes from arcane precision, faction mod from roar

oops

[dusky bane]

probably still mag

[lime phoenix]

i forgot if heat valence combines with mods